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At this time, silence all electronic devices and mute your microphones. Let's stand for the invocation and the pledge of allegiance. Honorable commission and community, this is Chaplain Anthony Shai, Pasco County Fire Rescue, privileged to give the
invocation. Let us pray. Almighty God, we thank you for this opportunity to conduct our civil business today. We ask that you'll grant protection to our policemen, firemen, school teachers, community workers, and our school children. Please protect our community.
Thank you for this opportunity. Amen. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Okay. Um, madame clerk, would you please call the role? District one, Commissioner Oakley here. District two, Commissioner Wakeman present. District four, Commissioner Jerger here. District five, Commissioner Mariano here. District three, Chairman Stark.
I am here. And now is the time for public comment. Citizens are given an opportunity to comment on any current or future agenda item coming before the board and on other business under the board's purview. Today's public comment will be handled as follows. First, we will take public comment from those who
are here in person. Then, we will take public comment from those who have pre-registered for a WebEx link and are currently on Q. We request that when you address the board, comments are not directed personally against a commissioner or or team member, but
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yellow light will indicate you have 1 minute left. And when your time is up, a red light will be displayed. Three beeps will sound and you should close your comments. And WebEx participants will be disconnected automatically when their time is up. Mr. Clerk, do we have anyone
signed up? We have no one signed up in advance. Okay. Is anyone online? We have no one online. Is there anyone here in the room this morning that would have like to address the public? Good morning. Good morning. I've just got a question. Nancy Hazwood 3110.
We don't really answer questions, but you can try. Um, I'm I'm would like to take something off the consent agenda, and I was wondering if I was too late to do that. Can public pull off the No, the public can't pull. You can you can go ahead and make your comments.
You can make your comment on the agenda item and maybe a board member would pull. Okay. So my question is I'd like to hear it in totality for C13. It's both um excuse me for C14. Um I'm not sure and I just want to hear
the whole thing and I'm sure it's probably fine but I'd like it gone over for the public. It's already pulled. It's already was pulled by Commissioner Weightman and Commissioner Oakley. Wow. And David and David.
Lots of polls. Okay. Okay. Is there anyone else who wishes to speak to us today? Okay. Um then moving on. That will conclude the public comment. Now is the time for resolutions. Can you please start with the first one? Resolution
number 25277, a resolution by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, declaring July 20th to the 26, 2025 as pre-trial, probation, and parole supervision week in Pasco County.
Whereas misdemeanor probation provides individuals with a structured opportunity to rebuild their lives under supervision, offering essential case management that fosters rehabilitation, accountability, and personal growth. And whereas misdemeanor probation
professionals are dedicated to fostering positive change and offering unwavering support to individuals in their journey toward accountability. And whereas misdemeanor probation professionals collaborate closely with law
enforcement, judges, court officials, community service agencies, and treatment providers to enable offenders to continue working while meeting their treatment and community service obligations. And whereas misdemeanor probation professionals uphold the
highest ethical standards demonstrating integrity, professionalism, and dedication to the citizens of Pasco County. And whereas misdemeanor probation professionals ensure compliance with sentence sentencing guidelines, reinforcing justice and
accountability within the community. And whereas misdemeanor probation professionals provide case management, actively promote prevention, and facilitate the collection of restitution to aid victims who have suffered financial loss, ensuring both financial
and emotional support in their recovery. And whereas pre-trial, probation, and parole supervision week presents an opportunity to recognize and appreciate the contributions of Pasco County's misdemeanor probation professionals
whose commitment makes a difference in the lives of those placed on probation. Now therefore, be it resolved by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, that said board hereby proclaims the week of July 20th to the
26th, 2025 as pre-trial, probation, and parole supervision week in Pasco County and commends the contributions of the Pasco County Misdemeanor Probation Professionals whose unwavering commitment, professionalism, and
collaborative efforts continue to make a meaningful impact on on the lives of offenders while fostering a just society. Done and resolved in regular session with a quorum. President voting this 15th day of July, 2025. Move approval.
Second. All in favor? I. This is who did this one? I did. Wavelin. Okay. Okay. Mr. Martin, you have the mic. Thank you, ma'am. Well, you guys have not necessarily the
most exciting sounding job the county has, but a very important one. And the balance that you all have to hold with keeping, you know, try to keep young people on task and try to straighten them out and the level of compassion that you have to have while holding
accountability for the, you know, the crimes they they have committed um is a is a very big job. and thank you for your dedication to this line of work and to the folks that uh end up in trouble and um thanks for keeping a good spirit
about you and hanging tough with these folks day in and day out. So glad you're here today. Okay, Mr. Oakley. Yep. I want to thank you for all that you do for citizens of Pasco County and the work you do is very very important. So, every day get up with a smile on
your face because you got a a hard job to do, but you do it very well and we certainly appreciate everything y'all do. Thank you, Commissioner Joerger. So, again, thank you for what you guys do. Um, I look at your job and I think
of all the people that all the lives you guys touched, how you know, you basically are giving them second chances. You're sharing stories of other people, other success stories. you're you're pouring into them and um most of all you're giving them hope and
encouragement and um that's not easy to do daytoday because it gets it's you get very emotionally tied to the person and you want them to succeed so bad. So um just thank you and Commissioner Mariana I'll say thank you as well. It's just
you you meet people at very tough times in their lives and helping them get through it and hopefully better direction to move forward. So thank you for your service. And finally, me. Uh, so I was involved with the county long before I ever became an elected official
and had no idea even then that we had this kind of department. So, it was really surprised to me that we we we did this. So, uh, as far as I know, this might be is this the first time we've had you up for resolution? That's what I was thinking. 16 No, 16
years. Jack, you've been here how long? Long time. 21. So, um it it's great to see you here and I what I really like is that the public is learning that that we handle this and that we have these fine fine uh employees who are taking care of our
citizens in their time and need. So, um and our county administrator would like to say something as well. I think just just to pile on to the accolades, but I I think what's all all the work that you do is important, but really what makes the difference is you guys are positive role models in the community, and that's
really what you serve as. Your example sets the tone in addition to just the work that you do. So, just thank you for being role models uh for our citizens, those that have gotten into trouble, but uh you're you're really a positive pillar here in the community. So, thank you. Okay.
Um there's Do Shall we stand up behind? Oh, yeah. you you may have the mic. Have them speak. So, I'm I'm Tracy Toner. I'm the misdemeanor probation manager. Um, and on behalf of my team, I' I'd like to thank um you the commission here for
your support of our division and for this resolution today, which is the first one we've ever received um recognizing this pre-trial, probation, and parole week. Um, it's through case management that my team is able to provide both direction and encouragement to the offenders. Um, helping them take
meaningful steps forward, uh, while still holding them accountable for the orders of the courts. Um, it's rewarding to see them when they, uh, change for the better. Um, and your acknowledgement today really reinforces the importance of what we do. Um, I'd also like to
thank our director, Brian Hovind. um it's his leadership, genuine appreciation, and shared passion for what we do that really make a difference and motivate us to bring our best um to this role each and every day. So, thank you very much. Thank you. And so, Commissioner
Weightman um you want to go down? We'll stand up here. Yeah. Okay. Yes, Seth. Yes, you got some short folks behind you. I got all these tall. Thank you. All right. Now the parks RS2
resolution number 25278 a resolution by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida declaring the month of July 2025 as park and recreation month in Pasco County. Whereas Pasco County's parks, recreation, and natural resources
departments, programs, and facilities are essential services that enhance our quality of life by providing a balance of athletic, social, cultural, and recreational opportunities, building self-esteem, teaching life skills,
encouraging environmental awareness, and providing public spaces for every citizen to enjoy. And whereas Pasco County's parks, recreation, and natural resources facilities support tournaments and special events that boost our economy, enhance property values,
attract new business, and increase tourism. And whereas the Pasco County Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resource Department provides a diverse inventory of facilities, fields, preserves, and conservation areas, as well as
campsites, ramps for water access, beach areas, picnic areas, playgrounds, and swimming pools for the public to enjoy. And whereas the parks, recreation, and natural resources department maintains and manages facilities that help build
strong communities, excuse me, support family unity and strengthen neighborhood empowerment. And whereas our parks, trails, and blue water showcase ecological beauty, provide space to enjoy nature, help
maintain clean air and water, and protect wildlife. And whereas recreational and outdoor activities, adaptive recreation, special needs summer camps, inclusive programming, and leisure education are essential to the
well-being and rehabilitation of countless individuals in our community. And whereas the Pasco County Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources Department oversees 38 park locations and more than 20,000 acres of parkland
and open space. And whereas launched in 1985, this year marks the 40th anniversary of Park and Recreation Month. This year's theme, build together, play together, reminds us of the contributions of parks
and recreation professionals who maintain our counties and country's parks. And whereas the local and state parks maintained by the Pasco County Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources Department are vital to the well-being
and quality of life of every citizen and visitor of Pasco County. Now therefore be a resolved by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, the said board hereby declares July 2025 as Park and Recreation Month in Pasco
County and celebrates the dedicated work of the Pasco County Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources Department and resolved in regular session with a quorum present and voting this 15th day of July, 2025. Move approval.
Second. All in favor? All right. This is my res resolution, but I'll go last. So, I'll I'll let Commissioner Oakley speak first if you'd like to. All I can do is thank you every day y'all out there. You got a tough job cuz um the fact that you got all these
fields all over the county. You have more people wanting to be on those fields than anyone. I mean, if we were charging a greater amount of money, we'd bring in all kind of money for those jobs. because people love to be on the fields and y'all do a good job at keeping
fields up and and all. So, we need to as a board, we need to make sure we support you now and in the future. So, because we're not slowing down anytime soon. The growth is coming and a lot of kids are coming to Pasco County and they need to
have good fields. So, thank you, Mr. Wakeman. Thank you, Chair. You know, there's there's politics and then there's sports field politics I've learned in this job. And that's probably the more difficult
of the two to be quite honest in balancing the wants and the needs and the demands of field times and parents and coaches. So, you know, know that we recognize those challenges that you guys walk a tight rope trying to figure out
and balance every day to provide exceptional service and a fantastic experience to everybody who uses our field. So, glad you guys are here today and thank you for all your work. Commissioner Jagger. So, one thing I want to touch on is when
you think of parks, people have weddings at parks, they have birthday parties, right? So, it's more than just um the fields, but you know, as a mom of five, we have spent so much time at parks and fields and you know, helping restore
those fields and um just making memories of it feels like yesterday our kids were playing te-ball. Like, there's so many memories made in parks. So, just thank you guys for everything you do, for keeping everything nice. Um, I'm out in Moon Lake Park every two weeks and I
know how hard you guys work on that park to keep it beautiful and it's just absolutely gorgeous. So, thank you, Commissioner. Go ahead. I think you guys parks have the best job. We do, too. Uh, you I mean, you get you get to have people have fun with people. We just had
the pre pre-trial folks up here, etc. Different type of thing. You guys get to see most people having fun other than the sports politics of getting one feel where. But, uh, and what you guys do is great. Uh, I was up at Veterans Park over the weekend with my, uh, grandson, 2 years old, just having a ball in in
the splash pad. Families after families were coming in, coming out, step probably like saying 20, 30 minutes, whatever. There was a birthday party going on. Just that quality of life of having a place to go and what you guys have done with Sun West over the past year, uh, two years has been phenomenal. Thank you for the board for supporting
it as well. It's going to be a awesome scolop and music fest coming up on July 24th and people are going to be really excited about that one. Uh, and what you guys did with the Wiregrass Sports Ranch when we had the trouble with Rad Sports coming through, you guys stepping in to make that happen. Monumental achievement
and just a phenomenal job. So, thank you guys for the great work you're doing. I don't feel bad for I feel great for you. So, and so I am uh very happy to be the sponsor of this and as everyone knows here, this is A big part of why I'm a
commissioner is the parks. My husband and I spent 25 years being youth coaches and he continues on the board of positive positive coaching alliance which uh has a presence here in Pasco County. Um yeah, last week I took my grandsons to Sunwest and they uh my
husband, my son, and my grandsons all did the uh the Wake Park and absolutely loved it. And uh I I was just thinking, you know, every vacation that my husband and I go on, it always is we always go to a park, whether it's a a county park
where we go, a city park, um state, federal, um or national park. Um it's just a big part of what we we like to do. And so, um, I think we have, uh, such a wonderful park system, but my
gosh, we are straining, straining, straining. And something else that comes to mind during CO what our parks department guys went through. I remember that someone spit on someone at I think it was Starky Wilderness Park because they weren't allowed to go in. I
mean, and I know what some of you have dealt with with the Gulf Harbors. Okay. Some very passionate Gulf Harbor folks as we work to to uh set up our park. So, um I'm just really glad that we're we're
doing this here today and um as you can hear, we we have great support. You have great support here for what you're doing and we'll put our money where our mouth is. Yeah. Can I can I pile on here real quick? Sorry. I would just I would just like to
say, you know, Keith, the creativity of of of your team just blended with just the natural diversity of our county. I mean, coast to woods to riverines, it's you guys are able to make a little something for everyone out there. And I think it's I think it's a beautiful thing. And I I also just admire the role
that you guys fill every day as as educators, environmental stewards, and and community builders really. And so just grateful for for all that you do and just love our parks. So thank you. Thank you. So Keith Wy, director, parks, recreation, natural resources. Um, theme build together, play together. So I
think very appropriate. I'm not going to ask for any money today, right? Because that's that's not the purpose of this, but we are building together, right? So the the board has been very very supportive. County administration, Mr. Carbala, Kathy, I don't know where Kathy is, Kathy Pearson. um we we wouldn't we're
building everything and addressing all the issues that we that we've you know come across and the board's been very supportive from increasing impact fee to allowing us at first go the general obligation bond to even see if the citizens would support funding parks which of course they did. Um so yeah I
think and then a couple board meetings ago Mike the the loan right the boards uh approved the loan to to pursue two district parks on the east side of the county. So we are building together but with the capital investment comes the maintaining the facilities and typically on these events we we bring you know the
the the field operations team in but honestly it's this this is the management team for for my you know my department and without them we wouldn't be able to provide answers to all the questions or the reservations or the ideas to add additional infrastructure at various parks. Maybe Sunwest possibly
is is the one I'm thinking of. But um yeah without them I would not be able to do my job. So very very grateful uh for their support and their constant dedication. It's just amazing. Um and then play together. I think you all articulated it best. We are involved in the community. We're creating memories.
We're creating you know uh holidays sometimes. We're involved in that. So yeah, this this theme I think is very very appropriate for what we're doing in Pasco County presently at the moment. So thank you again for your support. You know um be before I come down and I I think there's enough we can all go
down if you guys want, but um Um, I am going to be bringing up in commissioner items and just in case you're not here, um, when I was in Philadelphia with the the Niko conference, there was great discussion about what all the counties were doing
to celebrate the nation's 250th birthday and we're going to be having that discuss. I'm going to set off that discussion today and I'm sure it's going to involve you guys. So, um, stay tuned because we we we need to come up with some of our plans. So, All right. So, if you want to stay up here, then I'll go down.
Stay up here. I would trust her photography. I can never pull that off. Sneakers in a shoe. One of them little kids with great question
three, water poster contest resolution number 25282. And before I start, if we could go ahead and have our young folks come forward, and I'm going to apologize in advance. Um,
so if I mispronounce, I apologize, but I'll take a shot at it here. A resolution by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, recognizing and commending Pasco County, Pasco County elementary students receiving first place for their
respective grade levels in the 16th annual water awareness poster contest. Whereas clean, safe, and sustainable water resources are vital to Pasco County's economy, environment, and its citizens. And whereas the steps we can
take to protect and preserve our water through educational partnerships and positive actions are encouraged throughout Pasco County. And whereas the water awareness poster contest was developed jointly by Pasco County Utilities and the Florida Government
Utility Authority, FGUA, with the guidance of the Pasco County School Board to champion water conservation education. And whereas students are given the opportunity with the assistance of dedicated Pasco County
school teachers to explore steam sam science, technology, engineering, art and mathematics based teaching materials that expand their knowledge of water related topics through artistic
expression. And whereas this year 1,111 posters were submitted with 22,240 entries submitted from Pasco County elementary schools since the program's inception in 2010. And whereas winning
posters were selected by a judging panel that included representatives of Pasco County Utilities and the FGUA and community sponsors. And whereas the posters chosen displayed exceptional artistic merit, creativity and clarity
of message and is representative of students at various levels of learning from kindergarten to fifth grade. Now therefore, be it resolved by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, that said board hereby thanks each participating student and teacher
for their dedication in promoting water awareness through Pasco County and congratulates first place recipients Hunter Hips, Karam Al Habah, Elizabeth
Sutnoff, Isan Robbie, Deruv Pedavar, and Jessica Kato. for their outstanding achievement done and resolved in regular session with a quorum president voting this 15th day of July 2025. Move approval. Second.
All in favor? I. Well, welcome. Um, if you all want to say something real quick, I can start with you. Yeah. I uh in my nine years being here as a county commissioner, I've actually been a judge several times. And this
artwork that you see is very hard to judge when all of them are so great. I mean, they do a great job and such a teaching method of telling people where the water comes from, where where it goes to, and and all the things that that deal with
water on the past year of swift mud and a past year of Tampa Bay water. I really care about this program and and what they do and the artwork they bring forward is very good and very educational for everyone. So, thank you.
Thank you, chair. It's just a fantastic and a fun item that comes forward every year since being on the board. And just can't commend the school district and the parents and the teachers and everybody involved uh in engaging our
youth and um teaching them the cycle of water and what's healthy and what's not. And um it's just great to see the the imagination and the learning and the skill come together on on paper. and um just glad we have another year of of
successful participation and happy that you all are here today. Commissioner, well, I love your poster. Um can you tell me a little bit about it? Sure. Okay. So, I'm very happy to hear here be here.
This is my first time being here, so this is a really big thing for me. So what they tried to show is that if you use chemicals, pesticides, and you throw plastics into the water, how polluted it could be. And then as you can see, the houses are all broken down. The
ecosystem isn't very good. And then then if you use natural fertilizers, recycle, reduce, reuse, and you follow the local rules, you can get clean water and a good water cycle. So I learned about the ecosystem in third grade and the water cycle. and they really care for the
environment. That's amazing. Great job. Well, I think we all learned a little bit from your poster today. Thank you for sharing. Great job and congratulations, Commissioner Mariano. I want to say that was fantastic. Yeah.
Uh congratulations. Great job. Uh we we do uh the entire board appreciates this program uh with what you guys do with it, bringing everybody together, Matt coming out to it's phenomenal. So congratulations again. Great stuff. Thanks.
And um I want to say thank you for um letting me have the opportunity to judge this. Um um I will say uh to the parents out there because we had to um remove some of the posters from the selection process because it was kind of clear mom
did it or maybe dad and and not the youngsters. So parents stay out of it. Let the kids do it and um uh just really impressed with what they came up with and boy am I impressed with you. So are are you looking for a field in science
uh as you keep as you uh grow? Yeah. So we have opportunities um to um uh for you to do things at the county and you know with our you saw our environmental lands program here. So just keep that in mind parents as he gets older if he wants to come um do
some shadowing or volunteering at the county we can help him pad his resume. Madam Chair. Yeah. What's the youngest intern we ever had? Yeah, I don't know, but I think he's up to it, right? Um, so, uh, congratulations on your poster. How are we going to, um, well, you could speak.
And how are we going to show these to the public? Yeah, for the record, I'm Sandy Anderson. I'm the director for Pasco County Utilities Customer Information and Services Department. And as you can see, as the resolutions that came earlier today, it's communitywide. It's not one county
department doing anything. We're really branching out. We have the good fortune of this being the 16-year partner and expanding this uh with the FGAA and the school board. And also coming up later this fall, we're working with county libraries. We're going to move this into the libraries and make a tie in there, too. So, we're really excited about the
things to come. And Phoenix is our water conservation coordinator for the county and it's one of the many programs we do that working together. So, it's it's with these efforts that we have going forward. So we encourage you to be looking forward to expanding in the future and being part of it in the future as well.
Thank you. Phoenix McKenna, I'm Pasco County Utilities Water Conservation Coordinator. First, I would just like to thank you. I'm a little intimidated about following Eson. He was such an outstanding speaker. Um, however, again, thank you so much as always. We appreciate your support. Uh, I am really
excited about the collaboration that we're going to be doing with the library right now. The posters um not in this format but in a different format are currently on display in the west west and east government centers and they
will be there uh for a month. However, starting in November through May, they will be rotating in four of the different library galleries. There'll be two months in each of the gallery and they'll be in frames similar to this. So you you'll have an ongoing opportunity
to see those um over an extended period of time if you miss them now. Uh and encourage people. It's really fortunate for us of the timing that they're going to go in in November because we're currently working on curriculum and new materials that will be used in contests
that would uh kick off in December. So uh we're going to hope to use that display time to also encourage more people to get involved. Uh it is an outstanding program and the students do do outstanding art. So thank you very much and I um does someone else want does
someone else want I believe so. Yes. Okay. Hello and good morning board. Uh thank you so much for letting me speak. My name is Vin Jones and I am here on behalf of the FGUA as a community services representative uh specifically based in uh Pasco County in Newport
Richie. And what I just want to just share on on behalf of the FGAA is just our um our gratitude and just our appreciation for just the partnership we've been able to have with Pasco County Utilities and just honestly just your support as well. It's so
encouraging just to hear um just the impacts that the children that the students been able to have um on their schools, their communities and their families um and even just their own education just learning more about the water and how to preserve it, how to keep it clean. And so I just want to
just extend just a thank you really uh just for all your support and we look forward to the continued uh partnership that we have with you and with uh Pasco County Utilities and the the school district as well. So thank you so much. Excellent. Um I wanted to make sure that the family
knows that um this is on TV so you can go to YouTube and cap and um you can capture your segment. You know, I was on TV once and I didn't capture mine. The co I was on the coar report and it's gone when I was on the
school district. So, go get it now because well, I guess this is government so it may be there forever but apparently the coar report is not the parents want to say anything. Sure. Okay, great. Good morning everyone. Uh my name is Rua
Rabi. I'm the proud dad. I'm here with my beautiful wife Nah Sherman. We are here to show our great gratefulness that the school district that we have in here is great. We are very happy with what he's learning. The growth has been tremendous. He is not only doing great in the school but also his other uh
performance is also doing great. So as a human being we are raising him and and the county is helping us a lot to be a great human being and so that he can give back to the community and serve it. So you want to say all of you thank you very much for your support and help and we very happy to be here today. Well, I I'm very appreciative that you took time
off of your work and out of your day to come here and be in Date City with us today because obviously you live in the Trinity area. So, I know it's a drive, but we're we're very grateful that you're here. Thank you so much. All right, let's take a photo. Jack, you're in the middle.
Hold this. Oh, with that one. Thank you. I'm sorry. Okay, I'm gonna have to keep a stash of those in your office. The challenge coins. I know. I got to carry them. Okay, we
are um on to the consent agenda and I have some items to be pulled. I have C13 by David Angel, C14 and by Weightman and Oakley, C-29 Weightman, C-34 Mariano,
C62 Oakley, and C64 Mariano. All right. So, is there anything else any board members would like to pull off the consent agenda? Okay. I move for accepting all the other
items left on the consent agenda. Second. All in favor? I. Okay. Um, we will move on to C13. Good morning, madam. Thank you. Good morning, Madame Chair and Commissioners. David Engel, planning and
economic development director. Uh, I'm here to present C13, which is a resolution of the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners setting the rates for contribution to the tree mitigation fund and the use of funds and delegating authority to distribute funds funds
thereafter. This is one of a two-phase process. This is uh focusing on um increasing the rate structure for our tree mitigation fund. It hasn't been done for several decades and also broaden the use of the funds. I uh the
board had authorized uh the use of some funds about three years ago for our commercial landscape program and we've delivered $1.8 $8 million of landscape grants out on the street focused primarily in the West Market area to
beautify our county and we'd like to broaden the use of those funds. Uh the second part of our effort will be a tree preservation ordinance and we are planning to bring that to the board. Uh we had a workshop with the planning commission. uh planning commission is
going to review and and and then recommend to the board and hope to see you in September with the new tree um preservation fund and program. So at this time I'd like to invite Amanda Hill. Amanda is our principal planner in
charge of special projects and she will review the uh initiative with you. Thank you. Thank you. Good morning commissioners. Amanda Hill, Planning, Development, and Economic Growth. So, first I'd like to walk you through the history of the fund. It was first
created with ordinance 01-017. Subsequently, there were resolutions in 2005 and 2008 to adjust some of the administration of the fund as well as to set some of the contribution rates.
And in March of this year, the item along with the tree preservation ordinance was previously brought to the local planning agency at which point the local planning agency members recommended that staff bring this as a separate item to the board for
consideration. Hence the reason why we're here today. And as David previously mentioned, we are going to be planning to bring the section 802 updates to the board in September. The current contribution rate is at $50
per inch. For affordable housing projects, it's actually $10 per inch. Uh if it's a project that's not related to a residential project, it's also $50 per inch. And then for projects that aren't related to any sort of building
footprint, then it's a $50 per inch rate without a cap. For residential projects, there's a cap of $500 per residential unit. For affordable housing projects, that cap is $50 per residential unit. And then for non-residential projects,
the cap is $500 for each 2,000 square ft of first floor building area. The proposed rate of contribution is $75 per inch for all project types. So there would be no distinction between a residential project, an affordable
housing project, etc. For trees that are classified as heritage trees, we are proposing an increase to $150 per inch. This wasn't a previous designation in the current contribution rate. And a heritage tree for the purposes of this resolution be
considered a live oak that's 34 in or greater or a southern magnolia 24 in or greater. And those trees would have to have a condition rating of good or better as determined by the ISA rating system. Here
I included a comparison chart. Um these are just some of the projects that were in-house at the time when this project was being put together by staff. And you can see the comparison in the fees that would be due to the tree mitigation fund based off of the $50 per inch rate
versus a $75 per inch rate. All these projects they elected to pay per inch versus paying that cap of $500 per residential unit. This slide just looks at what the cost for a tree would be. Of course, it would vary based off of the diameter of the
tree, but I just made some example um trees here. So, you have, for example, a 10-in tree, a 26-in tree, and a 40-in tree. And I compared it in terms of whether it's a non-heritage tree, if it's a southern magnolia, or if it's a live oak. So, you can see for 10 in, the
fee would be the same across the board. it would be $750. If it's a 26-in tree, you can see for the southern magnolia, it's significantly more than the others because at that point it would be considered a heritage tree. And then for 40 in, both the live oak and southern
magnolia would be considered as heritage trees. So then that's the increased rate there versus the non-heritage tree. for proposed authorized locations and recipients. The resolution proposes that uh trees be utilized on land owned or
under the control of the county where the county desires to assist homeowners and affordable housing projects that service 80% AMI or below for the economic growth landscaping program for the school board and to accomplish a public purpose that will result in an
increase of the tree canopy of Pasco County. Whether or not a project serves that public purpose would be determined by the board. Proposed expenditures include reimbursement for drought tolerant trees and plants. This is not to be construed
as to include mulch, hardscape, irrigation, design, labor or other non-vegetative materials. It also uh proposes uh authorized expenditures to include the costs associated with the county tree management plan including
tree inventories and canopy studies and costs associated with the purchase of conservation easements or deed restrictions on private property. This would be in upland areas and with the goal of conserving and protecting in perpetuity uh heritage trees or and or
tree stands. The resolution proposes to provide authorization to the county administrator or designate to release funds from the fund up to $200,000 per request. An amount in excess of this amount would need to be brought to the
board for consideration uh and a vote. and the adoption of this resolution would repeal in its entireties the resolutions that were previously adopted in 2005 and 2008. The recommended action by staff is to adopt a resolution setting the rate for
contributions to the tree mitigation fund the use of such funds and delegating authority to distribute such funds and repealer. And I'm available for any questions you may have. Thank you very much. Uh Commissioner W. Thanks. So to for clarity, you said the affordable
housing projects, they're not getting they're not having a discounted rate. They're going to be paying the same as all the other projects. It would be a flat rate for all projects for everybody universally. Okay, good. Thank you. And the next the next piece I had I'd like for consideration to fix is the level of authority for leasing the
200 up to $200,000 worth of payments. It can be I mean theoretically based on the language he the county administrator could do5 $200,000 grants without coming to the board. So I think that language needs tweaked. I talked with Mike about it and
I don't know necessarily what the threshold should be but um to have basically unlimited as the fund grows $200,000 delegation authority over over that kind of money. I think we need to tighten the
range on that language a little bit. Possibly we could restrict the $200,000 per project so we don't have that scope creep on the amount of money. So, how would it read? Because as it reads right now, the administrator going
forward. Well, it would it could read um the administer has the authority to allow up to $200,000 per project. Yeah, there could be but there could be 10 projects at $200,000 a piece and this board would never see it. That's a lot
of money to just grant out. Mike, you have any? Well, I was well, I was originally going to suggest that, you know, purchasing ordinance grants the administrator the authority up to $100,000 and that we could tie this particular, you know, spending authority and caps with that.
But the cap isn't necessarily the the problem. The issue that you're you're bringing up is multiple projects and spending. If the board were to come up with programs and budget dollars out of the tree mitigation fund specific programs, it could maintain budget
authority over that and thus thus limit it. Or we could we could bring individual projects back. I mean there's I think you want to you want to cap an upper limit. So if we were to establish a program say for I don't know, let's just say parks, we'll call it parks program trees and say you put a million
dollars in there. um if it's a $100,000 project that's within the the ordinance limits of my spending authority, I could approve that until we run out of money that the board has appropriated, right? And you would appropriate that million dollars during the budget process against that program. Um that that's one
that's one alternative that I think would, you know, satiate at least your concerns on on over overspend. Currently, right now, I mean, I I can spend up to $100,000 on various programs across across county government, just depending on what they are. They're just
varied. Um, when they exceed a threshold, we bring those forward back to the board for for authorization. So, you're capping, you would cap the program within the fund. So, we've just come up with programs, parks, uh maybe there's right-of-way use, maybe um you
know, uh David, the program you're talking about with the landscaping program, you know, call those three programs and the board appropriates whatever it does that becomes your ceiling. Yeah. I just figured I'd bring this up to the board to see what they they felt because otherwise we the boards future
boards would never I think your budget authority is what you you leverage to to cap it. But I mean, we can bring every project to you. That that that's not a problem either. I don't have a problem with that. H um
Commissioner Mariano, thank you. I think if it's a county project, whether it parks, libraries, or something, even one of our own buildings, give them full authority to to do it because if we can use this money compared to using our regular taxpayer
money, it leaves more money for the general fund flexibility. The reason I pulled item um 34 coming up is because we've got a little road ma landscape irrigation project and my question to staff was was how much of this money can we use for
the the tree mitigation fund rather than using our road and bridge money which we can spend more money on roads. Let's go use the tree mitigation funds for that. Um and we'll we'll talk about that. But I want I want to see that flexibility that he can do it any internal county project if you want to talk about
private projects which I want to discuss that item too because right now as you said it's only only right now under control of the border county commissioner of the county I want to see that expanded part of the reason I pushed this thing for probably two years ago was we had a project in front of
Leisure Beach County gives us the rightway we can go they can go maintain it and it took about a eight months to just spend like probably $10,000 worth of plants to get it through the process. Ridiculous. If I get anybody on any major major roadway, no matter what the
HOA is, I want to have them flexibility to go forward. If I've got people like on US 19 where they can't, you know, they're not making a lot of money. Anybody wants to go to the golf mall, go take a look and see what's in that building, what used to be there to what's there now. The demographics haven't supported it and it's hard for them to make money up and down that
corridor. I want people with the business on on long 19 and Rich Jenkins can talk about it because he's trying to work with us. Stay stay on this one and then we'll we'll talk about 34. All right. So, we'll get to that. All right. So, that'll be the other part. So, as far as that goes, flexibility if we own the property, if it's our county
project, whatever you can use it for, I say give them full flexibility to go use it. Yeah. I I I think that um you know, every Monday I call and say, "Where are the trees?" Because we're not putting them in the ground. and that's
what this was was collected for. So I I I don't want to hold anything up. Um the you know this is going on public land and our parks on our rights of ways um a county bu county property, county
buildings where uh the trees have been missing for decades. So I'm fine with the 200,000. I really am. It was 100,000. So uh I'm I'm okay with I'm I'm fine with that, too. Um, I got all the faith and world on the
administration and Mike and the work that he does and his team that he's got together that they'll do the right thing with the money. If it gets to a point he has a concern about it, he should bring it to us. He will bring it to us. So that I'm good with what
And on that note, I passed I drove on Ridge Road again today and it's one of the subjects I want to talk to you about this morning. We have an overlook for people who are riding the trail and I've been asking for a year at least a year since it opened for a shade tree
there and there is still a Craig marble. So um we need people are sometimes people need to cool down and get out of the sun when they're when they're riding or running and we have got to get a shade tree on that overlook on. Um
okay. Okay. So uh I just if I could just interject I And I want to make sure that we're we're tracking correctly. The board is okay necessarily with $200,000 of the upper limit. But I think the question that Commissioner Weightman brought up is just how many $200,000 chunks do you I
mean if if the balance of the I could spend the whole fund balance I think is really you know part of his concern or whether that's me or a future administrator or whatever is does the board want to want us to allocate and budget as our budgeting process versus
pulling out a reserves on I mean I guess we would have to budget uh a piece of it anyways as long as we stick within the allocated budget. Did that satiate your concern? Do you mean like say 30% will go to parks, 30% will go 20 to medium? I'm actually saying if the tree
mitigation fund balance is a million dollars and the board appropriates half a million dollars of that to be used in fiscal year 26, you've put a backs stop into place in terms of being able to spend it out. Would that be would I I just brought it up
as general conversation. See how the board how the board what other members thought about it. just, you know, we have a million or two million bucks in there and you or another administrator comes in and just starts spending $200,000 down and and we and blows the fun in a year, this board wouldn't know
about it because the uni the administrator would have unilateral authority to do that. So, I just know that that trees and landscapings is important to this board and so I'm just thinking of the future as as boards change and administration changes that there's some quality control metrics in there. So that that
was my whole reason to have this conversation. Um this is not landscaping, right? This is trees. Yes, trees. We could not provide a quarterly report to the board. Um just to give you an update as to
what's being spent and what the projects have. I think it would just Yeah. Put in the noted items and call it out to us and I'll be fine. Right. Madam Chair, u just for the board's knowledge, right now the balance is about 9.4 million in that fund. Yeah, but it's about to get dispersed
grow. Yeah. So, so part of this thing again with if it's a countyowned piece of property and we can go put trees out quicker as opposed to later again 9.4 million that is outstanding, right? The purpose of it
is to put trees back in the ground that were taken down. So, the faster he can put them in the into the ground is what this thing was all about anyway. And if it's county owned property, if I'm saying taxpayer money, I think I should be saving taxpayer money. I don't care what the project is. And let him go do it.
As far as like other things, and we'll get to it. We'll talk about other things, but let him go. Save the taxpayer of the money. We want to cut the budget down, right? I'm not saying not to. You're missing the whole point of what I'm saying. I'm not saying not to. I'm just throwing it out there for conversation. I'm not
saying yes or no. I'm going to support it. I'm just saying it's a point of discussion. I think we've gone way far into the weeds around the trees on this. It was just it was just just a level of authority for spending that I thought was worthy to point out and have a conversation about.
And with that, I think I see where the tea leaves are. Okay. I'll take a motion approval. Madam Chairman, yes. If I may, I have a I hate to do this at the last minute, but I was not able to talk to Miss Blair, who reviewed this for our office um because she's out
of the office this week. Um I have a concern that the ordinance has, and it's not to the point that you've just been debating, the ordinance has caps for
what the per inch total is. you are changing those caps by resolution. I I believe that the the changes to the dollar amounts cannot occur without the amendment to the LDC going forward.
Should be a public hearing. So I think you can adopt the resolution, but that section one on contribution rates would have to be not effective until you amended your ordinance. Now,
this has already gone through the planning commission. No, it hasn't. It's a resolution. No, they did. They That was That was the tree preservation component. That's phase two for September business. This is for tree mitigation use of funds.
The problem is this changes the rates that are within your ordinance by resolution. That's that's my concern. And there may have been Elizabeth may have had a reason why she thought that was acceptable. I just haven't been able to
talk to her about it. So I what I would suggest is if you want to adopt this today, yes, you make the uh changes that are found within section one of going up to $75 per inch
or $150 an inch contingent upon the adoption of changes to 80 to section 800 if that is necessary. If that's necessary. Okay. I had that motion.
Yeah. When we get to the motion, please add that. But I had a I had a question. I said I was going to bring this up. It's kind of a David Goldstein question, I think. And I know we're not dealing it with it here, but um we have had to there are some things we
have had to tweak over the years because uh we've had instances where um people have cleared their land of these trees before development. And the last one that came to mind was Southwind
and he took out all those oak trees as an a property. Um, and he has a right to and he and he has the right to, but we have rules that you can't clearcut for before you develop. And I wanted you to go over what those are and just
so I mean, if you're operating under the A exemption and it's bonafideed a then you can clear the trees. We changed our code I think a few years ago though to say that if you do it immediately before you seek a development approval you had to been doing this activity for at least
5 years I believe otherwise you can't clear the trees right before you seek a development approval. What was happening before was the developers were clearing they were using the ad exemption simply to avoid our tree mitigation orders. Yes. And we don't we don't want that. So, I believe that change we made to the
code a couple years ago has already intended to remedy that issue. Yes. So, I think it's been fixed, but if you don't believe it has, we can revisit it, but I believe it's been fixed. Well, I I just um I'm not sure if this is if this is where we fix it or if we fix it in the September. No, you definitely would not have that's
even a bigger I know we can't fix it today. Yeah, but first of all, I'm not even sure it is still an issue because I haven't heard from staff that that it's still being abused. So, let's start with that. I would need Patrick Dutter or somebody to confirm it's still being abused. But if it is, that's a change in the
line of Elma code. That's not something we can fix in this resolution. Right. And and and I you know, no offense to the gentleman who um had that property, but it was mostly void of trees, but the reason he gave to take down his beautiful oak trees that would
have been along our bike trail was he needed them for his cattle, which was not I don't think that would stand up in court if we would take that have taken that issue. So, I think we need to be able I think you know um there's a line
in the sand when you cut down some of these trees. Keith, did you want to say something? No. Madam Chair? Yeah. So, before we get to the making a motion, I want to cover the points I want was going to talk about again items. Well, did you have anything more for David about clarify?
No, I'm good with that. Okay. But but back to before we get a motion. So if you're going to put the amount at $200,000, I want to know if we if we know Mike, hopefully you know the answer. C34, how much money we're going to spend on trees? Probably about $6
90,000. Okay. So $690,000. You're now going to say he can only spend 200 of that 690,000 on a project that's viable, that's going to be taxpayer money that could go into roads instead, which I think we all like done. We approved it in our consent agenda.
That that item. I pulled it. Oh, yeah. You pulled it. I'm sorry. So, um, but we can talk about it when that comes. When? No, we need to talk about it now. This is the time to talk about it because you're going to limit him to $200,000. When this got 69, when that one comes up, we will vote on it. It'll
be handled. We can give the point is that I think the commissioner is making is that he thinks the administrator should have more authority because another item like C34 might come up and
he wouldn't be restricted. Not listen we meet twice a month. If we if we have one that comes up that's bigger than 200 he can just ask us if we can give him the blessing. Right. All right let's go back to the previous slide. C can I just make one point? Uh, Madame
Chair and Mr. Steinsteiner, I believe I know why Elizabeth allowed this to proceed by resolution. The land development code stipulates that the board shall set tree mitigation fees by resolution. So potentially that's the reason
then I have a problem. Nope. because it says it what the language says is as set forth below and it has the caps. Okay, sir. We'll take care of it.
There's already a motion made, but he needs to redo his motion. Seth's already got a motion on the floor and I second. All right. Can I Can I keep the floor for a minute? Yep. Um, I want to I want to go back to the
language under control. No, keep where it's we talk about where you can use it like under property owned by the county. Keep going the wrong direction. It keeps going to move. Can you help me, Gina? Yeah. All right. So, so anyway, part of the
reason I brought this up from a couple years back was you got an HOA on US 19. They want to go fix the trees that they've actually got a right of use agreement and we're trying to work that out where they can maintain the trees. It's right on busy road. Looks great when they do it. All they want to do is
get reimbured. We're going to respect. I've got an HOA, not an HOA, but a another group that's another association. Why are we talking about that one here and not in 34? Because 34 is different. This is this is where we're going to set an ordinance up, but changing our rules. So, we're going to change rules. Part of the
reason I wanted this thing brought back to us was to go look at what the rules are. Now, you could have affordable housing project done by somebody else. Could be, you know, David Lambert's group that that we have. It could be an H like a another association with
another HOA that's not a true HOA that wants to go beautify along the property. You've got properties up and down 19 that if they're bound by all sorts of different rules, they can't afford to go put trees out, which could make it look better. You know, Rich Jenkins is going to tell you about how people don't want
to go spend the money because all the other things that fall in line with going to change the trees. I want to make it easier for anybody along, let's say, the 19 corridor, you can pick out the streets, too, to make it look better. if I can an association one that makes their entryway look better and I got $9.4 million. Let's get the money
out there. Get the trees back. Are you saying they would apply for a landscape grant? Cuz I I I'm not sure why I'm not sure that we should be landscaping private property. The main thing I'm trying to do is allow
the place county to look better. And if you've got 9.5 million from private property people that you took money from, whether it be private or not, if it's going to make the county look better along a roadway especially, why aren't we doing that and get those trees in the ground? So then any HOA that's under development
could come in and say we don't want to do our plantings along the front of our development, let the county pay for it. No, I'm saying let's say let Well, that's what's going to happen. Well, I'm so so said it be something that's existing already that's been done that wants to redo it because maybe it
wore out, maybe some car hit it or something and they just want to make it look better. I'm okay if they want to apply for a grant maybe which is matching, but I'm not okay to open the floodgates to take off responsibility of their the community to care about how
they look and pay for it and not have the taxpayers of another community pay for theirs because they let theirs go under. And again, not taxpayer money. It's tree mitigation, but it's not money that we can use um for other It's got to be on trees. Yes, we're going to go through that money.
Isn't the goal Isn't the goal of the program to put trees back in the ground? It's another alternative to go do it. How about if if there's No. Well, I I'm okay if they want to apply for a grant and there's rules with the grant um that requires some participation by those
that HOA, but I'm not okay. I I think we have consensus that we're not in agreement with. Let me just make one more point. So you you got trees that you're going to do. Doesn't count for the irrigation, doesn't count for the watering that may have to be their responsibility. It doesn't count for the mulch or other
flower stuff going around. Just the trees. So far that if they get that help, you're going to see it look better. You keep talking how you want this kind of look. I do. And Gulf Harbors is an example. We have it's actually a county road. We have um an agreement with the county to
um that we can have trees in the median. We don't have any water for it. We have that's another battle that maybe we can talk one day is we're not they're not allowing us to put irrigation in it. Um so we're hand watering, but I'm I'm
saying I'm okay with it in a grant process where the community pays for part of it. And the grant process is in place already. They were in process to go through and do this and they went through the process to do it and they did. They went through it. It took like eight months and we said we got to tweak some rules to make it better to make it
easier. I'm just trying to make it easier. I would like to call a question. Got a motion and a second on Okay. All right. So, we we does the motion include changes motion based on you want to adapt your motion to include the county attorney's language?
Yes. My my motion will include the county attorney's uh language slash con concerns or what what would you say it would be? that the section raising the raising the uh fees in section one
would not take effect unless um county at subsequent county attorney approval or with the statute or the ordinance would be with with that motion I hope that it would be done the county attorney's office would move in an expeditious
manner that way we could move these fees forward to grow the fund no question, but I I am I I'm almost positive that this is going to require an ordinance amendment. And can we just add that um David would
update us on whether it's What do you want to do? Uh quarterly on the quarterly progress reports? Yes. I mean, I I I would like to make sure we're getting this back out, the trees back out. As I mentioned to the
administrator this morning, for a developer or, you know, someone who paid in 20 years ago, that's not covering a tree that we have to buy today. I mean, right. So, we have eaten into our ability to put these trees and build our tree canopy back up.
And I want to be sure this doesn't go to crate myrtles and to under to what are bushes or you know, these need to go this needs to be there to replace tree canopy, oaks, pines, magnolia,
maples, not well, we some some places are appropriate for that. Well, the DOT just put them right down the middle of 52. So, um but needs to go to canopy trees, not bushes, understories.
So, Commissioner, uh our draft does not have that restriction. It does allow uh drought tolerant shrubbery. So we can amend the or uh the resolution u through the board action to only allow use of
funds for canopy trees including oaks, um magnolia, etc. Well, that's what we're taking down. That's what we should be putting back in. If you drive on 54, I noticed this. Someone else commented to me, there's no canopy along very, very little canopy anymore. We're allowing people to take
down oak trees and put up crate myrtles in their parking lots. It's it's a travesty. So So as I understand it today, I would like I would make that a motion. The the motion will read uh to restrict use of funds to canopy trees that the
the fe the new fees cannot take effect until an ordinance is amended or adopted allowing those fees. And thirdly, we will make quarterly progress reports as a notice item on the use of funds. guys. Well, then that means a motion be needed
midday again. Tree types. So, you don't want palm trees in this thing? Really? Um, I I'm thinking about I'm thinking about palm trees, but the thing is we're not charging for anyone taking down a palm tree, right?
But it does help beautify. It is helping it. It it it it does. Um, Sable Palm is a state tree. Yeah. All right. We'll add palm trees uh specific to sable palms or just in general. I I think we just leave in general. Of
course, there's no queens. Of course, festival it's all palm trees except for queen palms. Yeah. Okay. Don't like the flowy. I just don't like that the number one tree for the next free. So that's Okay. So you a you amend your you amend
your motion to accept that motion. So I'll county attorney. Do you want to clarify this this uh word jumble here of a motion? I think David what David stated is is
what the motion now would read with the exception of if if the county attorney believes that an ordinance amendment is not necessary, it would go into effect immediately. But I think the three the three bullets
that that David added on to the motion is is where the board currently is. Second. That's my that's my motion. All right. All in favor? I Please go shopping. One day. Oh, one day. Okay. Please go shopping. And I know Keith needs a lot of trees
now. I see they're missing already in Starky. I know he has trees that were knocked down from the hurricane. Um the courthouse needs trees on the west side. So, I'm very glad we got that done. Okay. What are we on to now? We are on C14.
C14. Yes, ma'am. Uh, good morning again. David Engel, planning and economic development director. Now, for the easyear agenda item, this is a proposal for a cooperative economic development agreement for Evans property. The
property is located uh it's 80 acres approximate in size. is located on Lake Iyola Road adjacent to the Blandon Road intersection near the I75 interchange. Uh before I get into the uh the actual specifics, I just wanted to give the
board a bit of history. Uh, in December of 2006, Pasco County entered into a stipulated settlement agreement designating this property as employment center requiring corporate business park or targeted primary industry or industrial uses, multifamily uses,
support commercial office uses, including service stations, hotels, neighborhood scale markets, and restaurants. Uh subsequent to that in 2022 the applicant uh submitted an application for zoning for an MPUD and
at that time they requested 1.5 million square feet for distribution warehousing and 300 apartment units. At the uh early part of this year uh the matter was brought in front of the planning commission and the application was
amended and then I'll just I'll pick it up from here. Uh the applicant is revising its uh original request to include one and a half million square feet of IL office 100,000 square feet of uh retail uses supporting the business
park and one of the commissioners had requested during the course of action that the uh residential be platted uses not uh not rental type of uses but for home ownership. The property is located uh again here on
on Lake Iola Road. Uh we have a plan without any residential that we're profering today. The frontage uh on Lake Iola that that pink area will be for smallcale flex in light industrial uses.
We've identified that there are a lot of business people that live in the northeast part of the county that need access to a business park. In fact, uh, one of the one of the residents who lives just north of this property, uh, was, uh, objected to the apartments, but we worked with them on the plan, and
they said as soon as the, uh, building's available, they're going to move their business in here. So, we've been getting a lot of uptake. The yellow phase two part of the property is uh, for uh, for some distribution uses. The property slopes down from the frontage on Lake
Iola to the back. You can't see the back piece. And we're capping the amount of distribution to 500,000 square feet. So you will be achieving 1 million square feet of high employment generating light industrial.
There are probable costs associated with improving this property to get to it to a site ready position. Uh that's roadway improvements, that's drainage, that's doing on-site utilities. The probable cost for all in is $18.2 2 million and
we are proposing a $15 million economic incentive package. $12 million comes from advalorum rebates which is uh the if you recall they pay their property taxes and then a portion of those property taxes in the following year are
delivered back in a form of a rebate. Um, and we also proposing $3 million of penny for Pasco because we need to get these improvements in and there won't be any tax generation till they start construction. Uh, but it'll all be on
the basis of reimbursement. They have to do the work. They have to show us the receipts and then they get reimbursed for whatever the incentive requirements are. And we prioritize the infrastructure to make sure that this is uh developed in an orderly fashion. First we'll be doing the Lake Iola road
improvements. Then bringing utility improvements within the property. Then doing the internal roadways, then mass grading for the phase one non-residentidential. That's the million square feet of light industrial. So it'll be pad ready, ready to go. They're really it's a ready site program. And
lastly, the the the following areas, if there's still sufficient funds, is the rural scenic harder preservation and property buffering, which is required anyway by the development uh and uh MPUD, which we'll have in the afternoon, sidewalks, and other required MPUD
improvements. We are also proposing a 20-year moratorum for residential development on the property via the 200 2006 stipulated settlement agreement. there is a very um significant incentive payment clawback
if the uh developer opts to do residential in 20 years from now. Uh we believe that those clawbacks are significant enough to not allow for a residential project to pencil out. And the way we've configured the improvements and designed the project,
it's highly unlikely you'll ever see residential on this property. All economic incentives again are reimbursible grant items. Uh there are features associated with this cooperative economic development agreement. We have enhanced architectural standard requirements. We
don't want to see cement ugly tiltups from the Lake Iola Scenic Carter. So they'll be using brick facades and other treatments to make it look consistent with the rural history and heritage of the area. All scenic roadways have to be protected according to our scenic
roadway plan ordinance and the surrounding properties have extensive bufferings in particular the northern side. Uh we have a type B 50Foot buffer and we are preserving existing hardwood trees in that buffer area. Uh the developer has agreed to cap commercial
support at 100,000 square feet and cap the uh distribution of 500,000 square feet. So we have a pure 1 million square foot light industrial deliverable. Uh the project as far as the financial characteristics and component uh over
the 30-year period of this agreement, the general fund will net $40 million in tax revenue. Right now the property isow and egg, so we have no really tax revenue on the property. Uh once full buildout is occurred, we'll have a
annual gross county product contribution of $78 million a year. Uh approximately 700 new full-time jobs will be generated at the site. Uh the economic incentive is equivalent to a $10 million $10
square foot buyown, which is consistent with what we've done with I75 gateway and double branch. and it is finally establishing an an important employment generating area in the northeast part of the county. And uh this is this Evans uh
project if the board will approve it today will be phase one. Phase two, we've already been having discussions with the public through Pasco 2050 is to create a specific employment center sub area policy that will be unique to Northeast Rural and protect the
character of the surrounding area. And we're we're working on that. And I've even asked uh Miss Hazlewood to participate in in helping us out create guidelines for this new employment area. So on that I I recommend approval of this item based on the conditions that I
just stipulated my presentation. Thank you. Commissioner Oakley have um I'm in full agreement of this project. Matter of fact, this project has gone from what was presented early on to this this program much better than
what they were asked for before. This project is good for Pasco County and the citizens of Pasco. Can you imagine being in a business park having things that deal with new homes and homes in the area and you're right on the border of Hernando County where a lot of growth is
happening and also with Pasco County. I mean, it's a win-win for those people who put their business in here. They have a, you know, the audience they're going to have coming for their business is going to be great. Uh, one change I would like to make and what David uh
repeated, if you go back one slide, I think it's on slide before where it talks about the 20-year moratorum, I'd like to change that to 30 years and it'll be better. I I never believe that the Evans family is going to wait 20 20
or 30 years to do a residential area on here on this property because they're going to there's going to be somebody out there right now that's looking to take care of this property and make it what it what we're wishing it to be. So, I'd like to make that motion to uh
change that one item. Well, I'm trying to understand the reluctance to have people live near where they work. So, does wouldn't it depend on what what that residential looks like? So, you're saying you you don't want any
homes there for 30 years? No. So, what if it's someone who wants to build a 20 acre horse farm? Well, they're not going to do it there. Why? Because you're going to have a business park there. It's an employment center.
It's an employment center. But if I looked at the map, maybe the applicant's attorney wants to be good. There's no places in here that can be No, I'm not going to put any residential. If if uh Joel 2 comes up, I think we can uh give you security that
the Evans family is good with this. Madam Chair, I I think there's one relevant thing to bring up that I should have done before. In 2024, the board adopted in the revision to the employment center. Originally, it was struck that it would be 20 or 40% of it
would be multif family housing. The board eliminated that 20% threshold down to zero because they wanted to maximize employment on these properties. Now, the surrounding area obviously has residential, massive residential in Hernando County, which is just a spit away from this.
But across the street from this, you got rural homes across the street from this product. I I can't Where's the map of the Can you bring up the other map that showed there was a big square there? Okay. So, what are we looking at here? That's the site. Yes.
Okay. So, what is is phase two is warehouse that well distribution and warehouse. So, where were you where were you going to put residential even if there was allow change plan? Well, that's why we ch we've developed a plan like this to to avoid having residential on this property. Well, you
said in 20 years they could put residential book. Well, they are allowed, but it would be virtually almost impossible to do so. The lot platting is too small. We have the 50 foot set back off the scenic road on the front. Oh, I know. So, we we've tried to design it to avoid
having residential development here. Um, so what is is that also their property where it says number two? Phase two. Yes, it is. And what is that? And it Well, that's where the distribution is. And if they were ever not phase two, the entrance number two.
Oh, down the bottom left. What is that? Cuz when I look at the map, that's that's a service road that goes in through the site that service that creates frontage on those those is that also part of the Evans property. That white piece at the bottom. It's not that L.
So it's not an L. It's just this rectangular. It's just a rectangular. Um I I have another question. And Jack, you had some questions. Go ahead and I'll come back to mine. So, I'd say this project is a lot better than when it first came to me. They talked about
apartments, too, and I said, "No way." Um, I'm glad to see that we're almost completely eliminating the possibility of residential. Um, and and I'm glad you're going from 20 to 30 making that suggestion. I I would even suggest if we're going to do all this
money because when I first discussed this project, there was wasn't talk about any incentives. So seeing it take this extra step forward, David, I think it's good that you're doing it to ensure that it weakens any chance for it, but I would really like to just see even the residential part wiped out.
And I don't know if the Why are we leaving residential on there? Well, and again, I I'll listen to Joel when he comes up, but I I want to just see if they because it's going to be so hard, especially you're not going to be able to do in phase two. Phase one, if you're getting all that stuff built out, you're not going to be able to really do
it and again for 30 years. If he's willing to do that, maybe he'll just say we'll just even take it out. And and I have another question for you, too. Are those contour lines on phase two? Does that mean that's a hill? No. Damn.
Joel 2, Palm Arbor, Florida, Land Use Development Consultant for Evans Properties, Inc., the property owner and applicant. Okay. Um, I'll answer the second question first. Yeah, the topo drops from west to
east. So the highland is at grade at Lake Iola on the west side and then it drops dramatically to the east. That's why on this plan the larger warehouse distribution site would be on the lower portion of the property and in fact it
is a it is a severe enough drop that you literally will not even see you you'll be over the top of the buildings. Um, so they'll be uh substantially shielded from Bllandon Road. Uh, Evans does not own the property south of us that goes
down to Bllandon Road. Evans does not own, but all of that land is part of your EC future land use area. So all of that ultimately will come in presumably if this approval occurs and Evans can kickstart this employment center.
Presumably those other properties will be coming in under the EC designation to seek similar approvals uh to map this thing out. Uh getting back to the first issue, um since it's been a three-year process
literally uh for us to get to this point uh since we applied, um it is important to note, as Mr. Engel pointed out, that Evans, at least in our opinion, has an absolutely vested legal right to build
rental apartments based upon the 2006 court settlement reached with the county. they are willing as part of this negotiated resolution to essentially not build the residential for the life of
these agreements. So, we have agreed um we have agreed and do not object to Mr. Commissioner Oakley's proposed modification that would extend that for the full 30-year term of the development
agreement and the MPD. Now, when the MPD comes up this afternoon, if you approve the the economic incentive agreement, we would need to modify the MPD to match the 30-year restriction. As a practical matter, that is a permanent restriction
unless this board changed its mind because the zoning will expire in 30 years and the DA will expire. So they literally at that point would not have zoning and would have to come back 30 years from now in front of whatever board is sitting here for to do anything
else. Um the reason it's kind of a moot point as a practical matter is the 3 million penny grant from the county will not be nearly enough to do the phase one because we have to do all of Lake Isa Road, the utilities and the mass
grading. So Evans andor its industrial partner, they're going to be spending at least 3 million more out of the box to get phase one ready. Uh we also have a deadline on doing that or we don't get the 3 million. Um common sense tells you
that once you start the project as a business park and spend all that money and particularly if you have to pay that money back if you ever go to residential that it essentially serves that purpose. Uh but I think because we have the existing legal rights to build
apartments, um this is a solution that frankly made sense for both parties. We think it makes sense for Evans and the county. And I think it gives you with a 30-year deal, the short answer is the county then controls any change. We
would no longer have the right, we wouldn't have zoning to do it. So we can we can make the further concession and we've made a lot of concessions the last three years. We can make the further concession to go from 20 to 30 years uh
to get approval uh provided that both the economic incentive agreement and the zoning ultimately are approved today with that change and that change only. Uh we're just not in a position to renegotiate the rest of the deal. So, we
will accept that 30y year uh restraint and we'd appreciate your support. Um, okay. So, I have another Oh, go ahead, Jack. Just just I I just want to say, Commissioner, I commend you for working with them. I mean, to take this this was one of the projects from 20 plus years ago. We made this an employment center
area and we knew it was going to be difficult because of the topographical issues that are out there, but we still wanted to provide that. So, I appreciate Joel, the Evans family coming back forward and working with Commissioner Oakley and probably Commissioner Weman along the way as well uh to to bring this forward. It's a lot more than I expected, but I think it's a lot more
beneficial and I think it ensures pretty much that we're going to get jobs created out there like we wanted to. So, thank you for that. It's a win. It's a win-win for the Evans family. It's a win-win for the Pasco County because this is going to be a good project and um it'll service a lot of citizens, not
just here, but even to the north. Sir. So, so my question um is on the improvements to Lake Iola, which is an arterial road that it will have the multi-use path on one of the sides. Yes, ma'am. We have the crosssection is um is
stipulated within the land development code for the scenic collector roads and whatever that cross-section is uh will be produced on this property. Okay. along this property because we have cyclists who are out there and better to get them on a multi-use path than to have them stay on
the road. And you can ask that as fast we can. Well, please answer ask that question when we have the MPD this afternoon and Mr. Vermillion will give you a an overview of what that crosssection is. Okay. Yeah. All right. Um I'll entertain a motion.
Move approval. Second. All in favor with the 30-year with the with the 30. With the 30year. Yes. Okay. All in favor? I I thank you very much. Know y'all worked hard on that one. Uh C29.
Yes, Mr. Wait. Thank you. Now, I just I pulled this one because it said uh not to exceed budget amount of 20%. And I don't know if Mike Carbala or who I don't know who wants to to speak to this, but it's two essentially $280 million project on
consent uh when digging into it. So I just pulled it based on the the dollar amount and then the 20% contingency. So aside from that, I don't have an issue just fire away. So I think I think what we would like to do is so the 20% has just been kind of a
general rule of thumb that staff have used uh to allow for negotiating room. Typically when we started doing this practice probably about 5 years ago, they were more for consulting type contracts, not necessarily design build. So I am perfectly fine. 20% of of a $280
million project is probably a lot. It is a lot. So, you know, if we can reduce that to have some wiggle room in terms of negotiation to say 5%. I think that would be great. I I'll be my my motion with the county administrator's recommendation for approval. Okay. Do I have a second?
Second discussion. Okay. Fire away. Quick. I was just going to say please make sure everything goes smoothly with the same. Yes, sir. 100%. Please. What? Make sure it goes smoothly all the way through. All right, I'll take Okay, so there's a motion and a second. All in favor?
I Okay, C34. Commissioner Mariano. Thank you, Madam Chair. I just pulled it for the one reason. I wanted to uh give the county administrator a chance to look at the hazard mitigation fund money instead of using regular money so we can put the money back in the road and
bridge on other projects as opposed to this. And that's why I pulled it. Yeah. So any any of the money that uh any of the trees should be able to come also from the tree mitigation fund. So we have up to we have about $670,000
worth of trees on this particular project. If we spend uh tree mitigation money up to that amount on this project and we can we can move the monies around provided that they're the types of trees that the board is allowing us. Then I I
can work with that. if the board wants to amend the motion to to include that. So, I'll make a motion to approve C34 using the hazard mit uh the tree mitigation fund up to 700. You said hazard mitigation. I did. I just changed it to tree mitigation fund. I corrected myself.
Use that for that. So, I want So, I'll make the motion to approve C34 using up to 700,000 of the tree mitigation fund money to offset the costs. I second. And um just under discussion, Commissioner Mariano, they are deep in
the planning for Ridge to 19. So it'll continue all the way up. Sure. Yeah. So we'll hopefully we see that soon. Um okay. All in favor? I opposed. There you go. Um C62 Oakley
C52 uh perpetual. I actually pulled this. This is Oakley Grove subdivisions uh out on Curly Road and St. Joe Road. It's a property was owned by my former company. I am not receiving any funds from that or
anything, but I'm abstaining from voting on this item. Does he can he legally? Yep. He can. They changed the statute a couple of years ago. Okay. So, I'll take a motion. Move approval C62. Take a second. Second. All in favor? With one abstension?
Abstain. C64. Uh, Madam Chair, I just want to bring Keith Wy up just for a moment. Um, I'm very happy about this uh project. Um, environmental lands is doing a good job and he's paying a very good price for this. I think it's like 25,000 an acre.
So, Keith, whatever you can get in that area to help kind of supplement, I'm fully supportive too. But I think you've done a great job with this. I just want to highlight it and congratulate you. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. So, move approval. Second. Uh, all in favor? Hi. Hi. Okay. I have an 11:30 time certain.
Can I um just ask a request here? So, we have a couple of things. Our lobbyists uh are unable to come back this afternoon. Um I have had Carrie speak with the uh folks for R69. And if they could be heard immediately following lunch, I think we can we can
move R69 to 1:30. At 1:30. Okay. And then if we could hear the R67 legislative review, that would be great. All right. Let's do it. Thank you. Good morning, commissioners. Madam Chair, today our lobbying team is here from Tallahassee to give us a
legislative update on the 2025 session. We have Sean Foster with Sunrise Consulting, Mike Moore Southern Group, Steven Shell with the key partners, and after we get done with that, we'll do be looking ahead at the 2026 uh legislative
session. So, I'm going to call Sean Foster up. Sean, good morning. Good morning. How are you doing? Scallop season, excuse me, is alive and going. We're out there this weekend. There was a ton of people even with bad weather and we got some good
scallops. And um we're going to jump in real quick and just we're going to the next page. I know you're limited on time. We're going to do a a quick session overview uh talk about the state budget. Uh give you some um legislative and policy outcomes and some issues that we've worked with Ralph and your staff on
with. going to talk a little bit about the property taxes and uh a petition referendum obviously coming up here and a big thing a lot of people are looking for is what the uh the financial outlook is going to be going into next year. As you know uh this year we were uh still having some of the dollars left over
that we had from COVID. We also had a benefit of $2.5 billion extra coming in than what was expected but a little bit of that is going to change. So we're going to jump to this part real quick. It just kind of gives you I just want to go to the bottom. Uh, we passed 20% fewer bills compared to previous years.
I think it's probably a good thing if I get up here and tell you that we passed 20% more bills. It's usually, you know, people would take you a lot more regulation and other items, but it was a huge session and you all know what it was ruled by and we're going to talk about that a little bit at the end. And and that was how they were going to try
to reduce the taxes that they take in as a legislature. Were they going to do it through uh giving back folks their funding and their money through property taxes or were they going to do it through sales tax or other ways? That's really what was the driver and the obviously the whole reason we had
session extended. So I'm going to jump off here and let you know we're going to have three of us coming up in and out. So Mike Moore, thank you Sean, Madam Chair, commissioners, Mr. Steiner, Kabala and the team. Um happy to be here on behalf of the Southern Group. Um just some
state budget highlights. You can see here a smaller budget this year. Um negotiations between the house and senate they yielded a $15.1 billion budget for 2025 and six and they wanted to continue to increase the reserves. So those reserves um were included 15.7
billion in reserves. So you look at the overall state budget there, you see a big portion of that is under healthcare and then following that is education and then we can go down the line when it comes to transportation and then general government, a and natural resources and public safety. We can just go to the
next slide. So we're going to get into appropriations a little bit here. So our first appropriation that we succeeded at as a team is Trinity Boulevard, the multimodal corridor investment of $2.5 million. um Chairman Hooper and Chairman
Joerger um were the sponsors for that. We're also very appreciative of not just these these members but the chairs of the committees as well. When some of you were up in Tallahass, you were able you were able to meet with Yes, Chair Hooper. We also were able to meet with um Chair Mccclure as well as well as
some of their members. So, as you know, when we're going through this process, you know, there's a lot of people involved all the way from the the sponsors to the governor's office. So when we think about, you know, who helped with this, let's remember that this kept bumping up the line as well.
But we're very grateful obviously for Chair Joerger and Chair Hooper. Um the next one on the east side of the county was the Curly Road safe routes to school that was sponsored by Senator or Chair Burgess and I like to call him leader whip Maghard. Uh that was the full ask
of the 1.5 and I should have said that that was the full ask. Can I ask a question on that? Yes ma'am. Does that come out of transportation or general revenue? That one I would That was at a good question. It comes out of the trust fund out of the five-year work plan that was out of the general revenue. It did not.
Yep. So that's just a re So that's kind of just a reordering of our district 7 money. No. If it had come out of the trust fund, that would be when it comes out of general revenue. It did come out of general revenue. Correct. Awesome. So it's in addition to correct. Awesome. Correct. Correct.
We make sure to work on that. Right. But if you saw this year when it comes to the road projects, every road project, every single road project, every appropriation was out of the trust fund. Actually, the road projects, they were out of the trust fund. Every every road project eventually came
out of the Yes. was out of the trust fund. Not just ours, everybody's. That's why you probably saw a lot get vetoed as well, but yours didn't, right? So, it's a good thing. So, moving on. So, Pasco County Fire Station number
four. Um again that was Senator Burgess and that was um or Chair Burgess and Chair Joerger. Um obviously with the assistance we have some firefighters here. They're here today. They were very supportive of this appropriation and worked very hard and spent some time in obviously up in Tallahassee as well. So
we're very appreciative of of the the team from uh Pasco Fire Rescue for all the efforts and work that they put into to this project. Now the the unfortunate thing is the Pasco Emergency Shelter which where'd he go? We lost we lost Oakley. Um well well we
can I guess we can wait for that in a second if if he comes back. I can I can come back to it. But um C Pine's flood abatement that as we know that was not fun. That was never in the budget. But again the Pasco emergency shelter I'd like to wait for him. But we can if he wants to talk about when he comes back we can as well. We'll bring it back up.
But we we can we can we can yeah we can we can talk about that at the end. Uh you were doing the text back. Yep. In here. I I kind of told you um you know there was two things that really led the session and and one of it was the the tax package and we can all jump
in. Um you know I kind of people saw everybody kind of arguing kind of fighting and and I said isn't a terrible thing the legislature is fighting on how to give money back to you. Really what it was the governor had way senate president had away the speaker of the house wanted to reduce your sales tax.
Just to let you know the state sales tax has never been reduced in states history not once. So, you know, people were looking at, wow, he's only trying to do it by 3/4 or half of a penny, but that would have been but and also the biggest thing that came out was the repeal on the business rent tax. And people kind
of say, what is that? Well, when you see all these folks and all these offices up and down and those were the HVAC and plumbers or those even where you work out of the gyms, they all pay a rental tax. They all and they reduced it some last year and they got rid of the remainder uh this year. Some of the big
items though um obviously were in there will have impacts on us. Um well that one has impacts on us. It does $7 million. I think it was close to seven. Seven. It was three. It was seven and building up. Um there was a lot of of reflection on rural communities. The
rural bill did not pass. So Senator Albertton wanted some u investments for rural communities in there. the same things that you've always seen before about, you know, giving back the the special dollars that we do for going back to school was made permanent. They also made sure to do a lot of things
that had to do with tourism in the state of Florida. People come here to fish. People come here to to hunt. They made sure a lot of those items went in there with that type of economic development that goes as a tourism. Um, and one of the things I'll say, this is going to come back next year. Um, we're going to
let Steve and others kind of talk about it. Um, next year is going to be a little bit tougher and I'll give you that little financial outlook. But in the end, it it is the part that extended session longer than what we would all want. Um, I will tell you again, if you look at some of these, we've talked about these before, the ones for
hurricanes and all those, all those are being made permanent. Uh, so you no longer need to come back and do it yearbyear, but there was quite a bit in there. We can go to the the next one. I'm going to kind of jump into the legislative and policy outcomes and I'm going to let Mike kind of kick us off and Senate Bill 1080.
Thanks, Sean. And real quick, I'm going to go back to if I could just the appropriations. Um, so, Commissioner Oakley, we're talking about appropriations. Um, unfortunately, one of the ones that was vetoed was the emergency shelter. As we know, I can tell you that, um, you know, Chair
Burgess and and leader Whip Maggard were obviously disappointed. They wanted to see that go through. Um, it was hanging on till the end. not just the 25,000, but it was getting close at the end to actually funding it for a large amount. It got caught up in the world of what's happening with emergency management and
where those funds going. So, they want to bring that back next year and try again. So, okay. And can I chair Starky, can I just bring up one more thing to you back to the road? Um, so the trust fund, it's not the same trust fund that your project's going. It's a separate
trust fund just to different than district 7 work product. Okay, good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, it is a trust fund, but it's a different it's a different affecting our other projects. Correct. It doesn't touch your stuff. Okay. Okay. And hopefully none of the other counties
in district 7 are touching our our money either. I don't other county. No, we'll find out at our MP meeting. Okay. So, obviously a lot of bills. Um we could be here all day to talk about the bills, but um there's some things that obviously Ralph and the team wanted us to go over. So, the first one we're
going to talk about is SB 1080, local government land regulation. I'm going to hit some highlights on this. As it states here, it imposes strict review timelines and refund penalties for development permits, bars caps on monthly hearings that would delay decisions, and it expands administrative
approvals for agriculture enclave development. So, again, let me do some highlights to get in the weeds a little bit. Um, one of the things it does is it modifies the threshold vote required to approve an impact fee from 2/3 to unanimous going forward. So if you decides if you decide to erase impact
fees, it has to be a unanimous vote of this body moving forward. Um in addition, um it also requires local governments to implement an increase in impact fees in at least two but not more than four equal annual increments. Now I've had some conversations with David
Goldstein on that as well. So he's he's in tune what's with what's happening and I know um the planning department's working to make sure those uh when they move forward they're abiding by those new rules. Um let's talk a little bit about um
public hearings and comp plan amendments. It also specifies in certain comprehensive plan of amendments um that are not adopted sorry plan amendments are not adopted at a second public hearing. The amendments must be formally adopted within 180 days
of the separate second public hearing or the amendments are actually deemed withdrawn. So some of these things mean that obviously you're playing the department. Where's he at? There he is. um are going to have to expedite things obviously much quicker than they you said after the first hearing between
the first and the second specifies if certain comprehensive plan amendments are are not adopted at a second public hearing the amendments must be formally adopted within 180 days of the second public hearing where the amendments are deemed withdrawn what they're referring to is the transmittal hearing and the adoption hearing
okay there were we actually had some issues where that didn't go that period was too long There are multiple counties in the state that have had that problem and so they're clarifying in the legislation
what what happens if we miss the deadline. Something else that your team's going to have to obviously work towards and work on is that within 30 days of receiving an application for approval of a development permit or order, a local government must review the application
for completeness and either issue a written notification to the applicant indicating that everything required anything everything that was required was submitted or specify in writing anything areas that are in a deficit. So for applications that do not require a
final action through a quasi judicial hearing or public hearing, the bill requires the local government to approve or approve with conditions or deny the application for a development permit within 120 days after the local government has deemed the application
complete. So I know again David, you're probably uh working on that now, but that's something we have got to move forward with doing. Um something else to just to highlight for applications do require a final action through a quasi judicial or a public hearing local governments must approve with conditions
or deny the application within 100 days after the local government has deemed the application complete. A local government and an applicant may agree in writing or in a public meeting or a hearing to extend the time or the process as long as the applicant agrees to that. Okay, let's uh if we could let's move on
to six. Wait, wait, wait. But there's more of that built 180 that at that jumped in at the very end. That's 1080, not 180. 180. We're going to go to 180 in a minute. Believe me, we've gotten 1080 and 180 next up from We're going to go to 180 next. I'm getting my numbers mixed up. Okay.
Well, you'll also similar 1080 actually we got ecstatic. Floor Association counties worked uh immensely in this bill. It actually died in the Senate. Uh they pulled off some of the language that had to do with the agricultural on enclave language and brought that bill back to life. So I I just want to give
you some also kudos the floor section of counties and uh the next bill 683 I think it was Griff Griffiths uh did this bill and it's really just a a new era of code review I'll say I mean it sets statewide synthetic turf standards requires under the 35day deadline for
local governments to act on changes um it also I put some notes on my own if private providers will use AI and so and and required to use some softwarebased review systems also expedite their their channels. Um, expands the use of the private inspectors I was just talking
about and prohibits permit denials for missing builder owner contracts. So, again, I call it the new era of of code. What does that last one mean? What's that? What does that last bullet mean? Prohibits permit denials of for missing builder owner contracts. That I'm gonna
Andrew wrote this and worked on that bill, so he's not with me. Do you remember that one? I will get back to you on that. Sure. Yeah. Admittedly, uh Sean or retired commissioner Moore, what does that mean? Um were there when when these when they're going through the local government
uh changes like this, is there any feasibility kind of study high level conversation about the money it takes to have to expedite or hire staff or or what we need to do, the cost associated with it. I'm not going to get in detail. I'm just curious if in
Yes, a bill analysis does take in into context any any type of cost that would take uh to the state or to a local government. But you remember some of these are coming in quickly and some of the times we're reaching out to your staff. Hey, what is the impact? Because an amendment can come up, but they do and that's being presented by tomorrow
by 5:00 p.m. So, how quickly are you able to deal with those? But in the end, the bill analysis will have them. Pardon me. Mo, as you know, most of the an bill analysis say no impact to local government. Yes, sir. I hear the answer. Yeah. All right. The next one, real brief on
this one. Again, a little bit more with um streamlining permitting, kind of like what the other bill did, uh fire prevention bill, um is going to be doing some streamlining for small fire alarm sprinkler systems. I put some other thing here to help with the permitting. It's going to require local governments
to refund 10% of permit fees per day if deadlines are missed. And the last one enhances inspection and reporting and limits of ordinance enforcement to those who appreciate. Does that only requiring require the 10% of permit fees for a sprinkler? That's what I had it on. Correct.
Not not any other. Correct. Just specifically for sprinkler permit. Correct. Okay. Mike's going to jump in here on 381. We'll go quick on PLA quick on platting. As you know, um, Madam Chair and commissioners, that a lot of these bills
are a result of sometimes mishaps by certain local governments or counties. Um, that's where I feel um, HB 381 came from. Um, there were some counties out there that were holding up plaques and um, after the development was approved
and um, upsetting quite a few people. wasn't Pasco County, but um that was happening where they were bringing those back and continuing plats and continuing plats. That's not the normal course of business as we all know. So basically what this
day is is going forward is that plat approval must be done without the need of going before the legislative body which be here would be the board of county commissioners. So plat approval would be administrative. So the county administrator would either assign him him or herself to approve the plats or
assign that to somebody else within the team moving forward. Personally, I don't think it's a bad thing. I think when I sat on the on this board, I was like, why are we why are we approving these plats? We already need to make sure they have certain things in Yeah. But it I don't think to me I don't
think it's that big this is that big a deal. you know, take something off your plates and administratively you have a good team here that's going to obviously be able to focus on what's right or wrong. Okay. Okay. Utility relocation. You want to take that, Sean? I want to tell you real quick. Yeah. So, real quick, you talk about a bill where
they did come in and ask us from the cost and that was 818. They absolutely came in and said, "What is it going to cost your county?" And it was huge numbers that they were getting. So, this bill may not be as pretty as when it came at the end, but it's a lot better than when it started. Now the grant program and it there is specifically in
law. Let me tell you what it literally says in law now. The law now states the burden is not shifted to local government. So to just let that settle in for that was the first time we ever got into law that this in future could not be shifted. Uh it requires FDOT. I
can show you that one 50% creates a grant program and that grant program if that empties and there's not in there they still cannot go to the counties for the rest of that funding. shields local governments from financial responsibility. But I will tell you the Florida Association of Counties worked hard in this. Your staff gave us these
amounts. We were meeting with the Senate President Speaker's office. So I will say, Seth, that is one of the areas where we did get the information on a huge impact. And I talked to some of the guys um I can't remember the name of the company, the big one that does the cables. They said they told me 80 they're putting $80
million the state in a fund for this. That was the number they told me. But um I was really glad to hear we're not on the hook for it. Yeah. Okay. Here's the big one. So 180 um will, you know, have an impact on many
departments within Pasco County government um all the way from obviously EM to planning from the the fire rescue pretty much across the board. It also on a state level too um DEM um has there's
a lot of requirements for DEM as well on the state level. So let me just hit some again hit some of the highlights. We could literally talk about this bill for probably hours. Yeah, it's it's long detailed. So some of the bigger the larger impacts um as you can see
posttorm permitting counties must adopt and publish expedited posttorm permitting plans and recovery checklists. debris management. Counties must apply for D authorization for at least one debris site encouraged to amend solid waste contracts. Um, something else when it comes to breed
management as well is that there's there's section there's a part of this bill that talks about your contractors that you hire to they it's really pushing it where they could be penalized or fined if they don't move forward with doing their job when it comes to say
debris pickup or or something associated with the storm. So there's penalties not just for the county, there's penalties from a vend to a vendor for not moving through with something. So, you hire somebody to pick up debris, they don't do it, there's penalties if they don't move forward with with doing that as
well. Um, here's a big one. Fee protections. Local governments are prohibited from raising building inspection fees for 180 days. Did somebody do that? Well, here we waved them and people are raising them. That's unbelievable. You know, there's there there were some knee-jerk
reactions. You figured people had flood mitigation. They went into moratoriums. In other words, around the state. So, this was a a lot of the counties and cities. Correct. Correct. And you know, and you see some people involved in the bill, they lived in coastal communities. Um they had a lot of municipalities in
their district and um obviously there were some mishaps that they responding to. Madam Chair, yeah, quick question. Uh with posttorm permitting, uh even debris management, you've got FEMA requirements, etc. FEMA contracts.
They want us to do certain things to stay in the NFIP. Does that get factored into when you say expedited permitting? Because if they people have to do certain things all the way through, it's it's a problem. I also recall it did FEMA specific items in there. It was more the ones that you had on
because they changed the rules on us mid midstorm cleanup. I don't see anything in the legislation that even mentions mentions FEMA. So we could not dictate to be faster than the third. Okay. Yeah. I don't I don't see but again a lot of this was coming from postnal disasters and um and there's and
it does go retroactive back to August I think of that's what we're Yep. and it limited to 2027. Yeah. Part of it they're trying to push AI as well. I mentioned it earlier because I I know there's some programs out there we might be able to even join in on. That that was one of the reason why I mentioned that under the bill. They're hoping that that if they see the private
sector does it that the governments would also be considering to do that to expedite the process. Okay. Yep. So if a storm if a hurricane fell or made landfall within a 100 miles of the county or municipality within 100 miles
um doesn't mean you had to get hit by it within 100 miles. There's a lot of things that that that triggers. So it bars moratoriums. It also um bars restrictive land use regulations post hurricane. Um
so for example a moratorium on construction, reconstruction or redevelopment of any property. So the way I interpret this is it means that you cannot have a moratorium at all. We have talked to your county attorneys about this but that's the way I interpret it. I'll let them give you their interpretation but I read in black
and white to me that's what it states. Um and when it says a more restrictive reverse of any type of amendment to the comprehensive plan as well. So we talk about land regulations anything you you can't touch you can't make the land the comprehensive plan more restrictive. Um
that also includes anything procedures coming with the issuance of a of a site plan or a development permit or a development order as well. That is all in this bill. A lot a lot. There's a lot. I mean, we can ask we can answer as many questions as you want on it in in the time that allows, but if if
you have additional questions, feel free to reach out to us. Happy to have these conversations. I know we've had conversations with a lot of you. I said, I've had conversations on multiple occasions with Mr. Goldstein as well. Um, and we'll continue that to find out any answers. I do have a question. I have a question and sorry, I got a medical text here
from family members. I had to read it. Um, so on that last bullet, did you talk about that one? That that that's what we just talked about. Yeah. So, um, it's funny because I understand this came from Manatee County, a a builder in Manatee County and, uh, and at Niko, I talked to
Manatee County commissioners who say they're going to try and get a carve out from this this which is funny when it's potentially caused by them. I but I am wondering if if um if it's possible that we could talk about that next year for
counties who are within x amount of time of finishing their comp plan because we have been working for three years on our comp plan revision. I mean the the community needs us from 2006. So I'd like and then it puts a freeze on us and all the money we spent
getting that done to enact our LDC's. So correct I think we should talk about counties who within oh certain amount of completion or finished a recent comp plan you know the revisions what they which they want us to do that maybe we can get some kind of carve out
sure and those are conversations we can have with you and and your fellow commissioners the and having conversations with legislators that that's how you guide us I think and I was going to bring up the I think that a workshop that we did a couple years ago worked out really really well and it's something we should consider in that type of information
come in. We have two we're going to go through. I was going to say real quick. So, it is noon, a little afternoon. I'm sorry. I got to go back to a question on that one. It just came to my mind. We have all this FEMA money or HUD money. We have a certain amount of time to spend it. Some are going to require land
use change potentially. A more a more restrictive land use change than you currently have. Well, I don't know. It depends on what we're going to try and do over there on the coast. Now they're restricting us from what we might want to do with some of our money that we have only a certain
amount of time to do it in. Right? Is do you see any conflicts there? I think as we get into the implementation phase and we actually see the projects they come to fruition, we can better make that assessment. But you're not wrong to assume that there
could be an impact. Again, restrictor is a key word though. You could free it up, make it easier. Well, let's say you want to get rid of a mobile home park that is in a fl getting whacked and whacked and whacked by a storm. But if it was voluntary,
huh? We can have this conversation. Just thinking ahead that maybe bad. Yeah. All right. Thank you. Next. All right. So, we'll move fast. Um, three. We have three minutes for you. I guess we're always told TDT again, no
changes this year. Did not pass. Um, I could get in the weeds really. We worked as a team. worked really hard on this. Obviously, you had Adam Thomas come up with some of his team members, too. We took them around. Um, this will come back next year. I mean, there's no doubt. We're being told it's going to come back. We'll have to work on this again.
Who's who's pushing this one? Well, well, I don't I don't like to There's multiple legislators, right? Multiple legislators from counties have a lot of money. Well, remember, you know, the argument is also trying to get tax dollars back for property taxes. So this would be the way that
this would be a good segue into what Steve's going to talk about as well. Um but it's acade by our across the board and there are people that have were part of this bill that
live and are represent um beach areas by the way as too. So it's not just rural counties that are looking for the money. No, I don't think it's rural counties. I think it's the big counties that get the big bucks. Well, obviously places like Orange County and,
you know, Orlando would never want to see this property tax. Hey, commissioners Steve Sha the Ay partners. The point about TDT, it plugs in here. There basically were two proposals this year that I think will come back. One is the large county, Orange County, Miami Dade being able to
use money raised over $50 million for roads and housing, those kind of things. The other was the proposal that came out of the house which was to basically take the TDT money, give it to you as general revenue and and then give rebates back for property taxes which I think is what we're going to we're going to see more
of that next year. So um next uh slide here we go. Sorry. Sorry. I went to liberal arts college. Forgive me. um is uh you know so so the governor has
talked about um repealing property taxes altogether. Uh just in terms of the politics, the senate has been fairly skeptical about property tax reform in a significant way. The house has taken it on in a in a a fairly aggressive way. Uh neither one of Governor Dantis' proposals passed this year, but we will
see it back. The House has uh formed a special committee. It's about 30 members uh chaired by Vicky Lopez from Miami and Toby Overdorf uh from Palm City. Vicky Lopez is a former county commissioner from Lee County, so she has some history in the issue. And didn't they the governor veto their million?
Yes, he correct. I thought governor basically said we have staff that already does. We don't need to have another study. Um but the House is approaching it like they you know they're moving forward with a full full-fledged study. We talked about increasing the homestead exemption to 500,000. There's a proposal by Senator Martin that is floated around to going
to $700,000 which he says would be the uh inflation adjusted from the very first uh homestead exemption when we first did that. Uh I think the I would not be surprised if they go to the ballot with allowing the legislature to adjust the homestead exemption to give them the power to be able to do those things. Uh,
and then again, I think the the big piece is this one that's shown up in all three of all five of the proposals the House have floated, which is that somebody should not lose their home exclusively because they can't pay their property taxes. Uh, I I fully expect that we're going to see something
particularly something will definitely come out of the house. Again, I think that there is uh I don't Shaw agrees, but I think there's more of a pause in the Senate about making these big changes concerned about the financial outlook, which we'll get to in a second. Uh, petition reform real quick. want to talk about because it does, Commissioner Lightman, it does one of these things
that's not really funded. Uh the legislature uh has uh I think wisely made some changes to try to uh ratchet down, you know, uh petition gathers, make sure that we know who they are, make sure their background check, make sure they're registered. Um they had the
time that you from the time you get a petition signed, you turn it in, I think has gone from a month to to 10 days. Uh the big thing uh it'll impact Commissioner Corley I mean not Commissioner Corley the supervisor corley is um every time he gets a petition for a constitutional amendment
he's going to have to send a letter to the voter basically saying confirming you signed this petition and giving the voter 14 days to resend their who's paying for that exactly you all oh my goodness so um
it's a postcard not a letter correct uh yeah but it will so that that is the the one piece of this bill. Uh again, I think there's there's a lot of changes in here that are pretty smart. That is the one change that is going to have an impact on the county. So I think though what about Sorry, I know we're in time
frame about the petitioners too. The people there there was some legislation that changed because of the petitioners themselves have to live within the state of Florida. Correct. I mean, sorry, I was just trying to run it through quickly. Petitioners now will have to live in the state of Florida. They'll have to register with the state. Uh that's a
should be a pretty easy process. We have that process in place now for people that that do voter registration be a very similar process. I think the the impact the the piece that will impact the county is this last piece that will allow them if he gets 25 25,000 petitions from Pasco County residents,
they'll have to send 25,000 letters out uh to confirm that they did actually sign that petition. I I think one of the reasons for that change was um not for this this possible referendum for this for these positions, but um you have people coming from all over the bust in to do these petition
drives and get petition signed. So they change the law that you must be with the state of Florida and must register. Um just real quick moving ahead and I'm really surprised Florida association counties at the conference didn't really mention some of this but I kind of put on their uncertainty exists. We just do not know what the next year but revenue
estimating conference and I put some of the things in here. It's going to be a weaker and state national economic variables. You know we've seen so many things going on with the tariffs recently. Last week, I just heard the tariffs gave us the best June that we've ever had, but we could end up having the be the worst July we've ever had. Uh, federal cuts to programs that come down
to the to to the state and to the counties. We're already hearing that. We're already feeling that. We're waiting to see what those numbers are going to be. And the forecasting is much less stable from the revenue estimating conference. When I told you earlier, they gave us our pot of money for 2024 to 25. We exceeded that by $2.8 billion
last year. This year that number has gone, it's a little bit farther down the slide. They're saying no more higher than expecting 384 million for the 2025 to 2026. Why? People are going to be spending a lot less money. We have the issue of the interest rates and consumer
uh confidence. Um so the last thing I I'll tell you is that we also saw when they did the revenue estimate conference for the first time coming out in June, we had a net negative with population. We've always talked about this more people more people coming to Florida. Well, there still is, but there's also
more people now moving out. So, for the first time in June, we had what we'll call it a net negative. Same amount of people coming in, same coming out. Um, so we still have a very healthy state. People are coming here. Homes are getting a lot more expensive. Homeowners insurance is finally starting to stable a little bit. Folks on the lower end of the
socioeconomic level leaving for they do less expensive states. And the last thing I know we you know, a lot of things you were trying to bring up and I'd like to really encourage all to do the workshop like we did a couple years ago. I think we're able to really flesh out a lot of the ideas, a lot of the policy items, and and really get you
ready for the appropriations. Yeah, that's currently scheduled for September 9th. So, something that's that's strong, though, and something to be positive about is um yesterday CNBC came out again and ranked Florida as um the nation's number one economy. So, that's
that's pretty positive news. Okay. And then real quick just uh looking ahead uh 2026 January 13th uh session convenes uh the committee meetings start up October 2025. So in preparation for that today after
uh this afternoon I'll be sending out an email to the organization asking back for policy and funding initiative proposals to come back to me by July 29th so we can plan ahead and prepare for the September 9th uh meeting that we
will have and extend an invitation to our legislative delegation for you all to finalize your priorities for the 2026 legislative session. And with that, I'll bring it to an end. Madam Chair, yep. I'd like to say um you know, this was a big year for us, but especially for the
previous year, we got next to nothing between all the vetos and and stuff getting through. So, I think we made a great move hiring the three firms together. You guys worked together very well. No matter who was going on, we had at least one of the groups with us every step of the way. You cooperated great.
And again, from what I see we got compared to what I expected, you guys did a phenomenal job. So, thank you. question. It's because we have more of a lobbying team. Oh, yeah. All right. Thank you guys. Um, we will
break for lunch. That was good. Ways and wildlife depend on you to keep them healthy. Excess fertilizer, grass clippings, trash, oils, and pet waste wash into gutters and storm drains when it rains. Storm water carries these
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heat. to the afternoon session of the board of county commissioners. 's meeting for July. What's our date? 20 14 15 2025. So, we had some unfinished business from this morning uh which we
are going to take up first. Um so, uh let's get on to our um I don't remember the number C6. Yes. Sorry, I just pulled it all out. Good afternoon. Carrie Roberts, purchasing director. We are here to
discuss a bid award protest. It is IFBB KM25029 ongoing and as needed guardrail handrail installation and materials. So we opened the bid on the sec 25th of February. We received three bids. One
from C Slater Construction, one from grading bush hog services and one from southeast highway guardrail and attenuators. We received a memo of a recommendation of award from public works to award to two vendors, grading Bush Hog Services and Southeast Highway
Guard Rails. We received a protest on the 19th of March from Southeast. We denied that protest through the county administrator's office. There was additional information requested by Southeast and then we denied it on the 4th of I'm sorry, the 22nd of April. The
basis for the protest from Southeast is that they do not feel South S excuse me slated grading Bush hog and hog services should be eligible because they did not bid on all items. Our response was that the bid clearly
states that we can award to more than one vendor if found to be in our best interest. It also states that we reserve the right to reject any or all bids in whole or in part to award by any item, groups of items, total bid or accept the bid that is most advantageous and in the best interest of the county. We denied
the protest on the 22nd of April and as a result the protesters asked to come before you all. Our recommendation is that you uphold the decision by the county administrator to deny the protest and to award the contract to both Grading and Southeast. That is the purchasing side. We have um
Southeast is here and they'd like to give a presentation as well. Okay, Carrie, have you set up time frames? I'm sorry. Time frames. 10 minutes, sir. And are both sides going to take 10
minutes? No, ma'am. Grading Bush Hog did not come today. The the protest is not of their award to them as a company. It's our procedures. So, they did not feel it was necessary for them to come. Okay. Thank you very much. Good morning. Afternoon. Good afternoon.
Um, my name is Elizabeth Vandenberg and I represent Southeast Highway Guard Rail and Attenuators LLC. I'm here today with Ilana Angel who is the estimating and contracts administrator for Southeast Highway. Um, she actually puts together
the bids, so she has the best knowledge of that process, much more than I do. Um, we're here today actually about protecting the integrity of Pasco County's um, procurement process. And by
that specifically, we mean all of the vendors need to be on an even playing field. They need to start from the same position. And the problem that arose with um this bid in particular was that
no one was notified which items in the bid form were mandatory and which items were optional. So it created a situation where the other two vendors chose no bids on eight items and my client bid on
those eight items. And because of that, bidding on those items rather than a no bid, which is a zero entry in the calculus, created um their bid tabulation um that was $60,000 higher than it would
would have been had they entered no bid on all of those items like the other two competitors did. And so when it came to I'm sorry, I'm supposed to be going through this. Um, so what we're what we're disputing today is not really the
dual award. We knew going in it could be awarded to more than one vendor and we're completely fine with that. It was how the calculation was um tabulated. So my client currently holds the contract for the county for guard rail.
They've held it for the past three years. um they noticed that this year, unlike the last bid form they submitted, there were um I believe eight additional items added to the bottom of the bid form that
were not there in previous years. And so again, for the procurement process to be fair and equitable, all of the parties need to be on a flat field. If one party is starting higher or lower, it's not
equitable. And my clients, by not entering no bids for those items that the other two vendors entered no bids for, was actually placed at a disadvantage, strangely, even though arguably their bid was more responsive
than the other two competitors who entered no bid amounts. And what resulted by virtue of them going through the form and and entering a bid for every line item was that their bid actually turned out more whereas the parties that
refused to answer on several items ended up with lesser bids. So here's the bid form that I completed and she can um explain to you a little bit about um these items that were added to the bottom.
The uh items uh that we decided to uh bid on are a materials only. Um we did not know that it was optional. Uh when you bid as a prime contractor, you
um are supposed to bid on all items. If you do not have experience or can't do it for some reason, you will uh send um request for code to SOPS and that's uh what they um that um file is for. If you
send it out to so they uh can choose whether bid to bid or not bid on the items in the scope of work, they can. So um that's that's why we uh beat on all of them. we uh wanted to um beat as a
prime contractor and uh it was not specified that it was optional. So you'll see um as comparing these three vendors, Grading and Bush Services, Southeast is there in the middle in the white column and um
I think it's CL Sea Slater Construction Inc. is in the rightmost blue column. And you'll see that um Grading the Bush Hog and Steve Slater did not enter bids for those last eight items. Whereas my
client, Southeast Highway, believing that they had to or their form wouldn't be accepted um bid partic in particular on item 38 $60,000. So, all things being created equal,
because the other two vendors entered no bids for those items, my client's bid for that particular item, which is handrail, should have been zeroed out or not counted because what resulted was in the bid
tabulations, my client's bid came out $60,000 higher than it would have been had they entered no bid. So, while we agree and acknowledge that the bid instructions
did say that you could enter no bid on items, it was never specified which items those were. And the county um administrator has taken the position in his response to us that the form
wouldn't have been accepted had we failed to bid on required items. But that would mean a scenario where trial and error. You leave some items blank. It's not accepted. You add them back in. It is accepted. But then you've
submitted something that you don't necessarily feel is your full balanced bid. So there needed to be clearer instructions. There needed to be items earmarked mandatory versus optional. and my client shouldn't have been penalized
by $60,000 for bidding on something that did not have to be bid on at all. So again, this was a um end result that my client ended up with an unbalanced bid by including the handrail when nobody else did. It was a game of
chance, picking and choosing which items to bid on, which items not to bid on. it it amounted to a rigged game at the end of the day. And I know how much this county prides itself in integrity. And in this instance, the integrity of the
process was undermined by the fact that the instructions were not clear. So, in the end calculus on all those items at the bottom in which the other two vendors entered no bids, you'll see that because my client put that 60,000
in there, their total tabulation came out to 265 67625. Without that 60,000, had they entered no bid and had a zero in that column, their bid would have been 205,67625,
making them by far the lowest bid. We also believe, but I cannot confirm because I did not ask um the purchasing office or the administrator about this, but it appears to us that the reason it was dual awarded is because those two um
first lowest bids were only $4,427 different. And so here it certainly could make logical sense to dual award. But if you do correct math and not count that
60,000 that my client bid on when it's two competitors didn't, their bid would have been $25,000, which would have amounted to savings to the county. And when you're having to answer to taxpayers about where the money is going, I'm sure you would like to be
able to represent to them, we accepted the lowest bid, and in this case, you didn't accept the lowest bid because my client's bid was artificially inflated by this nonrequired item. So, these are the numbers. had that item
been um conveyed to the biders that it was not required. And clearly my client's bid would have been by far the lowest without that item had they entered a no bid like grading bush hog did. How long has it been? You got time. They
got a time. So the potential unrealized savings based upon this dual award is 57,789. That is the difference between the average of the two awardee vendors bids minus Southeast Highway's bid without
handrail. And again, you know, we're here today about maintaining the integrity of the process. Broward County recently did away with this the same or a similar bid form that included those optional items. they no longer have those items on the
bid form because they realize they do not need to be on the bid form. They're not mandatory items and they're not used that much in the field. Um, Pasco County has an opportunity here to maintain the integrity of its public contracts process by either rebidding
this contract or readding it up. All we're saying is that $60,000 should not have been used in the bid tabulation. Thank you for your time. That's your time. Oh, that's your time. Okay. Um, commissioners, do you have questions? I have Madam Chair. Yeah. I know sometimes we've had different
things where we kept other bids in place, picking some items, etc. Guard rail seems a little bit simpler to me, but if the bid was 57,000 without those items, it would have been hands down one
by that uh by this company. So I I I find it a big gap. Well, you know that we so we went with two companies this time. So they they did win. I mean that we're we have two companies that are getting a contract.
So that's where I'm I'm a little you know even if without that they still would have been they would okay they would have been number two but we still have two companies now. Yes ma'am. The intent was always to award to multiple vendors in this case because we do have an abundance of work
in this area and this will allow the public works department the flexibility of having more than one vendor available to them. Each individual project will be quoted out based on the the actual items to be used on that project. So if it's a
matter of cost savings, they'll look and see vendor A bid. If you add up their bid, it's 35,000. If you add up theirs, it's 37,000. All being the same, we would go to the lowest one for that quote. But the prices do have to match what they submitted in their bid. So on the handrails, do we do that very
often? The handrails, that part, I don't know, ma'am. All right. Um, so if someone bid no bid. Yes, ma'am. Let's say you have a job and you put it out to the contractors and someone didn't bid on a handrail. Is that what that was? A hand. Yes, ma'am. In this case, since they are
the only one that bid on that last item that they showed there, we would automatically have to use them for that item. Well, then you're going to get the job that has the you're getting all the jobs that have the handrails. So, what what's the problem? Our our point is just that the playing
field wasn't even. It wasn't an applesto apples comparison. Did you have the same instructions that they had? Correct. Everybody had the same instructions. And those instructions were I'm not a lawyer, but you had the same instructions that they had. And if you if there's a job
with a handrail, you're getting the work because they didn't bid on it. So, I think you're good. Okay. I I I would just say we've held the contract for the past three years and I don't think we've ever turned down a job or been unavailable for a job. So I don't really understand the
explanation that we need two vendors for availability purposes when we've never shown you all that we can't fulfill our needs or your needs under the contract. Okay. Well, we have a county employee stepping up, Mr. Barrett Doe, and then Commissioner Wakeman has a question.
Yes. Good morning, uh, Chair. Good morning, commissioners. uh Barrett Doe, assistant director, public works department over operations and technical services. Uh it's kind of a mix and match. Um if we have to repair a guardrail, it doesn't necessarily mean that there's a handrail associated with that. It just depends on the situation.
If that helps kind of clear it up. So we use the different line items for whatever comes our way. If that happens, there's a busted guardrail on Mary Jane. We will check it out. Needs to be fixed. They put in a work already. All right. Good. Um Commissioner Waitman. Thank you, Chair. Just something
noticed. So twothirds of the vendors in this procurement no bid were you bid. So obviously I mean did you ask the question? Do we bid them all? Do we not bid them all? Um but obviously it tells me twothirds
of the participants, you know, had an idea of what to bid and what not to bid. I don't know why Southeast uh chose to fill out the line items the way that we did or y'all did, but um
two of the three had a idea of of how to fill out its price sheet. Well, we haven't really been in that situation when uh you beat as a prime contractor and you can choose when what you want to. You ask the questions during the bid process and get an answer and an
addendum. Uh, yes. But that's the thing. If it was added by the county, we just assume that it was needed for us to perform. There you go. Can you go back to the instructions? If it if it wasn't needed to um it it
wasn't if it if it wasn't needed, maybe the county wouldn't have to uh just add it to the pay items. So, it says right here though, if you if you decide to bid on an item, it doesn't say you are required to bid on an item. That's why I'm getting hungry. Yes, but
the thing is when you bid as a prime, you are supposed to bid on everything. Otherwise, the county if uh needs to go and uh perform the uh the the job on on a on an item that is not bid by their
contractor, they have to incur an um more um work and more taxpayer dollars to get a company to do that. So a prime contractor is supposed to cover all as opposed to just what is convenient for
them. Madam chairman, if I could ask the board to finish your questions of the protester, then ask any questions of staff. That's it for me. Any other questions from anybody? Okay. Um, thank you very much staff.
Yes, ma'am. We have included on the first page of our page of our specification documents that we reserve the right to award the lowest responsible responsible vendor by line item and then we also put directly below that that we have the intent to award to multiple vendors. So that's very clear
in our documents. Okay. I'm looking to my board for direction based on that information. I'll uphold support staff's recommendation. Um, I'll second it. You'll uphold the administrator's determination.
Chief administrator determination. Okay. Okay. All in favor? I opposed. All right. Now, we are on to our afternoon agenda. Thank you very much, ladies. Um, P70. Madame Chairman, members of the board,
we approve the publication of the hearing of this matter in previous meetings on May 7th, May 14th, May 21st, and May 28th of 2025 for at the last meeting on June
3rd. It was continued to today. Nectarus PTO's playing development economic growth department. Item P70 is PD250166. This is an ordinance uh regarding the Two Rivers East Community Development District. We are requesting a continuence to the August 5
Port of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in Date City. Take a motion. Move to continue time. Second. All in favor? I I P71. 71 here again similar dates previous uh
previously published May 7th, May 14th, May 21st and May 28th and the Tampa Bay Times continued from the June 3rd meeting to today. Move to continue time. Second. All in favor? I I B72.
B72 again uh May 7th, May 14th, May 21st, May 28th, 2025 in the Tampa Bay Times. published. It was continued from the June 3rd meeting to today. Move to continue. Time certain. Second. All in favor? I
opposed. Thank you. P73. We approve publication in the Tampa Bay Times May 21st, 2025, supplemented by an affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. Item P73 is uh PTE number 250092.
This is an ordinance amending the Pasco County comprehensive plan providing for a small scale comprehensive plan amendment to to the future land use map 2-15 and sheet 23 from res 29 residential nine dwelling units per gross acre to Palm commercial and OAF office on
approximately 5.78 acres of real property located on the north side of pure waterway formerly known as state road 54 approximately 680 ft east of Allen Road and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consist consistency providing for a repeal or severability and an
effective date. This comes with a recommendation to adopt the proposed governance of plan amendment and ordinance by roll call vote. And there's a presentation if so desired. Chair, I have a question. Commissioner W. Uh just my typical live local. Yes, it's in place. All right. Thank you.
Or will be in place. There we go. All right. Board. Uh do you wish for a presentation? No. No. Okay. Um let me try this. Is there anyone here who wishes to speak against? No, it's an ordinance. You need to take
any public comment on If you want to talk to it for or against? We have no one signed up nor online in advance. Okay. Approval. Second. All in favor? I I call Oh, I'm sorry. And I even wrote
roll calls. Uh roll call vote. District one, Commissioner Oakley. Hi. District two, Commissioner W. Hi. District four, Commissioner Jerger. Hi. District 5, Commissioner Mariano. I, District 3, Chairman Stark, I. P74, also a roll call vote. Maybe
I'll remember. P74, we have proof publication Tampa Bay Times, June 4th, 2025, supplemented by affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. P74 is PD250165. This is an ordinance amending the Pasco
County comprehensive plan providing for a comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map 2-15 and sheet 04 from res one residential dwelling units per gross acre to PD plan development on approximately 19.41 41 acres of real property located at the south side of
County Line Road. A text amendment creating sub area policy flu 7174 Pasco Mine PD and a map amendment to the future land use map 2-9 adding sub area map 2-974 Pasco Mine PD and providing for
additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency providing for repeal or servability and an effective date. This comes to you with a recommendation to adopt the proposed comprehensive plan amendment and ordinance by roll call vote. And there's a presentation if so desired. Board members, do you wish for
presentation? I met with the applicant. No chair. And we're good on uh the local the locals there. Thank you. And um or not there. I think I talked to them about sidewalks etc. up on County Line Road.
Um okay. So, uh, is there anyone here who wishes to speak to P74? Seeing no one, move approval. Second. All in favor? Roll call. Roll call. Roll call. I was just testing. Yes. District one, Commissioner Oakley. I.
District two, Commissioner Wick. Hi. District four, Commissioner Yates. Hi. District five, Commissioner Marian. Hi. District three, Chairman Stark. I. P75. P75. We have proof of publication in the
March 19th, 2025 edition of the Tampa Bay Times where it was continued in the May 6th, 2025 board meeting to May 20th where it was continued to June 17th uh 2025 where it
was continued to today. Item P75 is PD250144. This is the development agreement in the name of Riverstone, formerly known as Rener uh MPUD. That was the name of the development agreement. Um this is a request to continue the item to the
August 5, 2025 board of county commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in Date City, though the memo says August 19. The request is made by the applicant with PTE support. um since this is a project in the middle of the county and
is not changing anything as it relates to density intensity design land use or anything like that but is just an amendment to a provision of the development agreement. So you're asking them to continue it to the date city meeting on August 5th. Correct.
Move approval for continu. This was ad was this it was advertised as a continuance. It was advertised for a different date. I I you can see you can see if there's anybody in the in the audience that wishes to speak to this one. Yeah. Is there anyone here wishing to
speak to this one? Madam Chair? Yeah. I mean to continue it to a different district um even though it's advertised for a different date. I mean I don't know if we want to Well, we're here in Date City, so we didn't have an issue with So think it's going to come up to the
19th and now they they show up on the 19th instead of the 5th. You've caused confusion. Well, there's that. County attorney. That's completely up to the board. That's it wouldn't show on August 19. The only
way it would show on August 19 is if you continued it from here to August 19th, but it's advertised continued to August 19. It it was shown in today in today's agenda that was published online as August. Right. So, if someone looked at that and
they they just thought that, okay, it's going to be continued that day because it always is. Now, it gets shipped two weeks early. Someone may miss that date. I don't believe that was on the agenda per se. It's on our notes here, but the agenda didn't. It shows a continuation request.
The motion on the the motion on the agenda item shows it for the 19th. Yeah, I think we should stick to the 19th. H this is about um their obligations to the road and how many houses have to be
completed in time. So this was a project that was the board was the one that had the issue, not particularly the neighbors. It was, if you recall, this was the the the sheriff, Mr. Gad,
and I'm okay with the 50. Okay. All in favor? I wait, did I get a second? Second. I had a motion. He had a second. Okay. And we And since we've been debating, it's it's moved to continue to August August 5th.
Okay. At 1:30 or soon thereafter, as same may be here. Correct. Okay. Uh P76. P76. We approve the publication of the hearing of this matter in the May 7th, 2025 edition of the Tampa Bay Times.
Item P76 is PDE250202. This is a development agreement in the name of Homes by West Bay LLC. The request is to continue the item to the August 5, 2025 Port County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in Date City. Move to continue time.
Second. All in favor? I I P77 for publication March 19th, 2025 edition of the Tampa Bay Times for the May 6th, 2025 board of county commissioners
meeting where it was continued to May 20th where it was continued to June 17th where it was continued to today. Which item you want? Okay. I I might have misspoke on P70.
One's the development agreement, one's the MPU. Okay. Yes. They're both They're both They're both Riverstone rent ren. Correct. So, same issue that we have both. Yeah. Yes. So, P77 is PD257838.
This is a substantial modification to the Riverstone Runner NPU to reflect the same language that would be in the DA. So, no other changes are taking place. I see. And the request is to continue it also to August 5 at the uh applicants with PTE uh support.
Let's get a motion. Move to continue. Second. All in favor? I P76. Miss Madam Chairman. Oh 78. I can't read like a madam chairman. Would you like me to read read the procedures?
Thank you. There are two reasonzoning agendas regular and consent. Staff will present each application to the board of county commissioners. If staff or planning commission has recommended approval and there's no opposition, the application will be considered by the board without further presentation. If staff or
planning commission has recommended denial or if there's opposition to the application, the applicant will be given five minutes for presentation. The opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for group representative. And the applicant will be given three minutes for
rebuttal. Any individual disagreeing with staff or planning commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any condition of the resoning may at this time request that the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda
later on during the meeting. Otherwise, all resoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a single motion and vote. If you wish to speak to any petition, please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record. These are quasi judicial public hearings. The law in
Florida is that mere public support or opposition of an application is insufficient for this board to take action. Please limit your comments to those criteria found within the board's land development code for reasonzoning. Uh Mr. Clerk, would you like to swear
the public in? At this time, we'd like to ask anyone who is will and planning on speaking to items P78 through P83. P78 through P83. If you intend to speak to these items, please raise your right
hand. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you will give in these matters is the truth. So help you God. Thank you. You may be seated. When you come to the podium to speak, for the record, please indicate whether you have been sworn that you just accepted and
state your name and address. Please spell your last name if necessary. We appreciate it. Thank you. So for P78, this was published in the April 30th, 2025 edition of the Tampa Bay Times, supplemented by certified mailings, an
affidavit of certified mailings and site postings for the June 17th, 2025 meeting where it was continued to today. Item P78 is PTE27749. This is a zoning amen amendment in the
name of Pasco Mine MPUD master plan unit development by K&M Pasco 130 Holdings LLC. This is a resoning petition from an AC agricultural district to an MPUD master plan unit development to allow for the maximum development of 30,000 ft of commercial retail, 150,000 ft of
light industrial and 7 acres for a concrete batch plant and associated infrastructure on approximately 19.41 acres located on the south side of County Lane Road north and 1.25 miles west of Sun Coast Parkway. Um the recommendation, this comes with a
recommendation to adopt the MPD reszoning request subject to the conditions of approval. There were uh a series of expartes that were submitted late for all the commissioners. These have been uh given over to the clerk's office. Um and yes, there's a commission
of approval that addresses the live local act. Okay, this board members, do you have any questions? All right. Um, do we have anyone in opposition? Yeah. Uh, do we have anyone in opposition to this? This is on our
consent agenda. Seeing no one, we'll leave it on our consent agenda. P79. P79. Proof of publication for this matter in the May 7th, 2025 edition of the Tampa Bay Times.
Item P79 is PDE 257851. This is a zoning amendment to the name of Shatsburg MPUD by Ronald J. Shatzburg. It's a resoning request from AC Agricultural to MPUD master plan unit development district to allow for the development of 20 single
family detached lots and associated infrastructure and approximately 10.09 acres located in the villages of Pasadena Hills within village F. This comes with a recommendation to adopt the MPD resoning request subject to the conditions of approval of the MPD.
Additionally, there were a series of late expart days submitted for all the commissioners and these have been uh given to the clerk's office for the record. Okay. Um board members, any questions? Is there anyone here to speak against
this item? Anybody online? none online nor um SC or signed in advance. Okay, we will leave it on consent. P30 or P80 rather uh approve publication
from the Tempe Times June 25th, 2025 supplemented by affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. Item P80 is PDE257867. This is a zoning amendment in the name of Swami An LLC/Wesley Chapel
Professional Center. This is a change in zoning from a P2 professional office district to a C2 general commercial commercial district south central in South Central Pasco County south at the southeast corner of the intersection of Vidian Way and State Road 54 containing
approximately 0.94 acre. This comes with the recommendation to adopt the zoning amendment and we have taken provisions to address the live local act in this case as well. Okay. Board members presentation. No.
Okay. Um is there anyone here to speak against this? All right. We'll leave it on consent. P81. We have proof of publication. Tampa Bay Times, June 25th, 2025 uh 2025
supplemented by affidavit of certified mailings and site posters. Item P81 is PD257869. This is a zoning amendment in the name of James A and Cheryl L. Pelleter/powerline road reszone. This is a change in zoning
from an AC agricultural district and AR agricultural residential district to an AR agricultural residential district in northeast Pasco County on the east side of Powerline Road and approximately 2,300 ft north of Frzy Hill Road
containing approximately 9.8 acres. This comes with a recommendation to adopt the zoning amendment. Okay. Is presentation. Is there anyone here wishing to speak against this item?
Okay, we will leave it on P82. We have proof of publication Tampa Bay Times May 21st, 2025, but uh supplemented by affidavit of the certified mailings and site postings. Item P82 is PTE 257878.
This is a zoning amendment in the name of 23846 State Road 52 LLC/duty calls. This is a change in zoning from a C2 general commercial district to I1 light industrial park district in central Pasco County on the south side
of state 52 approximately 1,274 ft west from Aaron cutoff containing approximately 10.09 acres. This comes with the recommendation to adopt the zoning amendment and there are the local act and I have a question on this one. So I'm going to pull it off consent.
Yes, ma'am. All right. I will take a move approval of the consent agenda remaining. Second. All right. All in favor? I opposed. All right. P82. Um when I passed by there, it's it's
already there. So what's this is I believe uh a result of code enforcement actions regarding the zoning on the property. Okay. And so my question is when I passed by there today, first of all,
they have a chain link fence. It's not a and they put the landscaping on the inside of the fence and not on the outside of the fence yet again. So that fence is going to have to go Madame Chairman, Clark Hobby, Hobby and
Hobby, PA, 109 North Brush Street, Tampa, Florida. Madame Chair, all good points. We are correcting those as part of the settlement agreement with the county. There'll be new landscaping. It looks beautiful. I saw it. Yeah, but the the the old fence that you're seeing is coming out. That's not
allowed. And so, we already worked with staff. It's all going to be changed. Okay. We're actually doing a sidewalk. All right. and that the landscaping looks very nice, but I'm overseeing it on the inside of the fence and Okay. Okay. Um I'll take a motion. Move approval on all consent items.
You you already did consent. You're just doing that. Yeah. Second. Okay. All in favor. Was a separate It's not consent. It was, but she pulled it off. Okay. Did I get a Excuse me. I lost that part. Let me go again. Did I get a motion? Yeah. A motion and a second.
And a sec. All in favor? I I Okay. Um P83 approved publication Tampa Bay Times July 2nd, 2025. Um and supplemented by affidavit of certified mailings and site
postings. And we do have one person signed up. Good afternoon. William Vermillion, Planning Development, Economic Growth. Before I get started on this presentation, a couple items to submit to the clerk's office. Exparte
communications as well as proof of the neighborhood meeting with its summary and signin sheet for this project as well as any emails from citizens that I received throughout the duration of the two years. Move receive file. Second. All in favor? Hi.
This is PTE 2577738, a zoning amendment, Evans County Line 80D. The location map of the subject site within the north market area at the intersection of Blandon Road and Lake Iola in northeast Pasco County.
The current subject site is seeking reszoning from AC agricultural district to MPD master plan unit development to allow for the maximum development of 300 multif family dwelling units to be platted town homes or condos.
100,000 ft of support commercial and 1.5 square ft or 1.5 million square feet of light industrial and approximately 80 acres. This is roughly.3 miles from the I75 interchange. a location map aerial of the subject site, its existing zoning reflecting
agricultural, its future land use reflecting employment center. Here is an overall context map to show the subject site's location and relative to the future land use designations that
surround the subject site at its interchange of uh of Blandon Road and I75. To the south, there are several pockets of residential nine indicated there by the blue color. The pink color, which is also on the subject site, is employment
center. And to the south side of Blandon Road, you have the old mixeduse flu, which is more intense than the current employment center flu on the subject site. Here's the master plan
indicating the location of the warehouse distribution industrial office as well as some of the support commercial. It also indicates the required scenic corridor buffer along Lake Iola Road shown in green.
There's one variation request with this with proposal from 901611 to not provide an interconnect to the east or to the north. To the east there's a category 1 wetland and non-developable acreage and to the north there exist uh existing single family
homes that are more rural in nature and uh any further connection would provide a disturbance to them. So there were some changes uh when this this project initially went to planning commission when PTE the applicant and
the citizens reached some agreements that everybody was happy with. Of course the board heard the companion EDA this morning. The MPD conditions will be reflected to update the 30-year time period now
before multif family entitlements can be sought by this development. And I know the slide says 20 years. The conditions will be updated to be consistent with the economic development agreement. The rural crosssection being adopted for Lake Iola Road as well as the additional rideway required for that cross-section
is now a part of this MPD. It wasn't originally in February. Throughout our subsequent agreements before we received unanimous approval from the planning commission, we incorporated this as well. Additional buffering to be in compliance with the north northeast rural were
added both to the corridor as well as to the buildings and the landscaping to the north. The the MPD owner also um offered to work in good faith with any employment center master plan that's com contemplated in this area. Originally,
the comprehensive plan contemplated an employment center master plan for this entire interchange and also the the applicant agreed to work with the county in FOT about any improvements to I75 County Road 41 interchange.
Gina, do you mind pulling up my revised PowerPoint, please? The one I emailed you. I just want to go over the real cross-section typical. Um, I know that there was some questions about that cross-section and what the 135 ft
entails in terms of the typical section. This is the rural cross-section adopted in LDC 604 which is the northeast rural section of the land development code. You can see here that on this 135 ft ample amount of room is given to
landscaping and buffering. And on the on the one side of the rideway typical section, there's the meandered 5-ft sidewalk. On the opposite side, there is the option for an 8-ft meandering multi-use path and or at the
time when this was adopted in 2004, an equestrian trail uh depending on how the environment was being built out within northeast rural at the time. So, just to shed some light on that typical section there, multi-use path with the 2004
option of an of an equestrian trail there that's uh indicated if you're looking at it from left to right on the right side of the road. This comes to the right. I have a question for you on that. Well, I just Yes, sir. I want to make sure because we made a
change earlier in consent item dealing with this property. We changed from the 20-year uh run out of for the residential and we move that from 20 to 30 years. Yes, sir. And that that will be reflected in the impunity conditions.
Okay. Um I'm going to ask Commissioner Oakley. How much more presentation do you have? I'm I'm available for questions. Now, this kind of goes to Commissioner Oakley. Um because it's his neighborhood
and I know um from the cyclists that I know um that Blandon is a much used road by the cycling community that come from around central Pasco to ride there. The what now? Bllandon. Is this on Blandon?
Lake. Well, this is Lake Ayola, but it's an extension. I know, but that's part of the route that most cyclists take when we did the route studies. I Stantech or whoever did the studies. You really don't see that many of them on this area, but you see a lot more down into Blandon going out Triby Road.
So, um, is the would the community prefer the cyclist to be off the road and on a bike trail than on the road? Well,
it's it's safer for them to all be on a subtra rather than So, that's been some of the issues we've had. Well, we're we're we're having that um that RV park is having to build um bike trails. That's on Lake Iola, right? But it's south of
South. So, it's not near here. Well, there's one there's one on Lake Island when it comes the one that was your sister's property. Yes. That's in my district. So, there's there's a trail coming by the RV park, you know, the Mooney Lake. As we come
out, there's a trail provided there. Yeah. And how wide is that one? That's what kind of what I'm getting at. I think that's eight foot if I'm not mistaken. Jack, you I just think they should be consistent and I'm a little concerned that if we go from paved to dirt, it's going to be a
problem. What? Because this says uh either a multi-use path or an equestrian. The equestrian can go just right beside it. This is your typical section. This is not But he said something about a a paved trail or a dirt trail
that equestrian path optional is your from 2004 is your typical section not necessarily what Mr. 2 is going to be proposing. Go ahead and fill me in. Joel to Palm Harbor, Florida, land use
consultant for the property owner. the property owner will build whichever of those options the county asked us to build. So if you want the equestrian trail, that's what will be constructed. If you want the multi-use path, we frankly think the multi-use path makes
the most sense. Uh that we want it to be a business park with hopefully some support commercial. And we're happy to put that bike lane either in that or in the roadway. you and your engineering department just tell us which road
section because as Mr. Stein Snder said, it's your it's your requirement and we're going to submit the plans and do it the way you want it constructed. Well, I guess what I would ask is if it would be consistent with what we had the developer put in at Lake IA and I I don't even know at at further down the
road. It would make sense. They're both on Lake Isa Road. They're what, a half mile, 3/4 of a mile apart. So, whichever you decide, you probably should require. Here comes the Here comes the attorney that represented both locations. So we're we're flexible. Okay. And for the record
on the east side of the road, so that makes sense to be a paved walkable trail. Yeah. Uh the equestrian trail probably should be on the other side, which they would not have anything to do with that land. Well, I don't know where they cross or whatever, but yeah, Barbber's coming on the east side
of of Lake Road. Okay. And and while I'm here so I don't have to get back up, hopefully uh I'll agree for the record the applicant agrees to the extension of the residential restriction from 20 to 30 years in the MPD as we agreed in the
development agreement this morning. Yes. Okay. Um well that's that's my only issue. Um this is a p any other questions. This is a public hearing. Has anyone signed up to speak on this item?
Scott Bland. Hi, my name is Scott Bland. My wife Debbie and I have lived at 122 Spring Lake Highway for the last 26 years. Um, I have been sworn in. Thank you. So, the idea that there's not a lot of bikes still running up uh Spring Lake
Highway and Lake Iola, I I'm out there all the time. I see a lot of bicycles trying to get them off the road. Well, there's like a thousand feet there in front of that 80 acres. You think those bicycles are going to run off onto this little multi-use thing and then run back
onto the highway? That seems like a I don't I don't I wouldn't do that if I were if I were one of those people riding that bicycle. Um that's kind of crazy. Um there's very very few uh horses or as they like to say
equestrians running up and down that highway either. There's a couple every once in a great while, but it's mostly bicycles up and down there, which runs into the whole traffic idea. But I did want to go go to my my written notes here. Uh this is my third time attending
one of these meetings on this subject and my second time speaking. So I'm still in opposition to dropping down this immense industrial area in this rural this rural community. Uh so all the reasons that I had stated the last
meeting and more I I would like to address a couple of the statements I heard during the second meeting. It was stated that they were going to have a small septic system running on the property. And it was also stated that a properly run sewage treatment plant
doesn't stink. Well, a quick drive down 75 past Wesley Chapel will show you that either that plant is not being run correctly or indeed feces does stink. Uh, I'm going to go with the second one on that. I also listened to a traffic engineer speak about how traffic wasn't
an issue and how should it somehow become an issue, uh, some other government entity would fix it for everyone. Now, having been an engineer myself for more than 40 years, I can tell you that the problems often lie in the details or in this case, handy
omissions. Somehow it was omitted that the traffic on this road continues to increase as the population of Brooksville's immense developments finds this an easy shortcut to Tampa and back home. It was also admitted that the huge
RV park that has been mentioned today is under construction just south and that too will increase traffic. Add in the additional traffic that will come from the mega development just west of Dade City. All of these projects are
currently underway. This project will add on the order of if we take the number of number of uh uh residential units and all of the uh industrial and everything call it something like a thousand cars and
hundreds of tractor trailers per day. this road and its intersection and the bicycles on there, you're not going to have some bicycle l train uh lane going all the way up the Spring Lake Highway and Lake Blandon. It's just not going to happen. I can guarantee the developers
and the traffic engineer won't be the ones waiting to be struck from behind on I75 as they sit at the jammed intersection. I ask again for the commissioners to deny the reasoning. Okay. Thank you very much. Um, do we have anyone else who listen?
No, that's the only one signed up and no one online. Anyone in the audience? Yeah. And well, is there anyone else here? Okay. Anyone else want to speak? Seeing no one close the public hearing. Yep. We will close the public hearing
and it's back to the commissioners. Um, you know, when I look at the map here, the RV park is on the right side of Lake Iola side. Yeah, we we made them put a bike trail in front of that. Um, and this is still on
the east side as I go up Lake Iola. So, it I think it would benefit uh somebody um for these to we for these to connect. And also I recall Spring Spring Lake Highway,
Hernando County got state safety money to widen their road for the cyclist because they encourage the cyclists to come and they they widen that road so it would be safer for them. So there there are cyclists in this area and I know we won't get all of them off the road, but it'd be nice if we can get
some off the road, especially kids as this gets more developed. Commissioner Oakley. So, with the new new RV park coming and and that trail actually being on the east side of Lake Ola Road, it
only makes sense that it would cross Bellamy Lake Road going toward the Evans property up there. So, that would be your trail that you can put in. Yeah. and and not necessarily a equestrian trail because there's not many horses right there, but there are
about room for both going both of course. So, but it just needs to be whatever width we said it would be at Spring Down south needs to be at least as wide as that, if not wider. That's all. Okay. Um that's my own my issue. Anyone
else have any I have I want to um I'm very much in favor of this project now. It's much better than what it was three years ago and it's come a long way to be a more u fitting the area that we're talking
about. So with the changes and all of the 20 to the 30 years I'll make a motion approve I'll segment just one more discuss discuss it. Sure. I I I do think we should address the the bike trail. If the other development to the south has it we should mirror what
that has as well. Yeah. So, let's go to the motion maker. Yeah. We'll make sure that that trail goes forth and it it'll still be you know by the RV park and we talked a lot about that. That trails on the east side of the road which is on the right hand
side. When you go and cross uh 41 to the Evans up by the Evans property, it'll be on their their side of the property for that trail. So, it fits in. Yeah. And you may get um some kind of user at the RV park, say in a golf cart
or whatever, that wants to come up to some amenity that they may put in here. So, in this way, they're off the road. All right. Yeah, that's good. Okay. Um and just to the gentleman who spoke, remember we're dealing with a a lawsuit and a settlement, and so we have
rules that we have to follow. Um, and we just can't come up here and say no that we have to follow the law. So with that, I'll call a quest. I'll uh take the vote. All All in favor? I opposed. Okay. Okay.
All right. We are back to we finished all our Rs in the morning. No. budget. You need you have a budget presentation on budget presentation. You're welcome to stay.
Um just for my fellow commissioners heads up. Um Commissioner Joerger has to leave at 4. We should be fine. I have to leave at 5. So just going to try and We have to leave at 3. Who? You have to leave at 3. Oh.
Well, Mariano, you could be running the meeting all by yourself at five. Be fine. I think it would be fine. Commissioner Mariano three. See how fast I can talk if I have two minutes. No pressure, Amy. Amy Ferrell, budget director with
Pasco's Office of Management and Budget. um item R68 or OMB250048 where we're going to be setting the um truth and millillage. In your packets in front of you, commissioners, you have a copy of the PowerPoint presentation. And then behind the PowerPoint presentation,
you'll see the details for the 5-year CIP excluding the general fund. The next bit of your packet is the details for the five-year transportation engineering department CIP. And then your final grouping of papers is the road
rehabilitation MSGU three-year plan where we outline the projects by district group by fiscal year. So just so you know the packet in front of you and so you have those details to peruse. Um um just wanted to make sure you had all
those details behind those big summary slides that we're going to talk about in a minute. All right. So, our agenda today, which I'll get through all of this in two minutes, um it it sounds like or maybe 30 or maybe an hour. Um
so, we're going to go over the budget cycle. We're going to talk about what we've already covered in this cycle, the work that we've already accomplished, and the work that's still before us. We'll regground ourselves in our strategic priorities that the board has set forth for us for this first year. Um, we're going to talk about the
assumptions and the pressures on our general fund and our other major funds. And we'll be looking at assessed value updates since the last time we met in June. Uh, we'll look at capital and then we will um approve proposed millage rates for the trim notice and set the
first public hearing. All right. So, in January, we came together and we had a workshop where we talked big picture strategic planning. So, we have a nice five-year plan, but we really needed some guidance in what do we really want to tackle in year one.
And then we heard your input and then we went back and we kicked off um with our internal team and we started all of the heavy budget work that happens behind the scenes. We came back and we talked about um the general fund. We talked about the municipal service fund, our
various MSTUs, and we also looked at our big revenues for the upcoming year and what we thought those were going to shake out to be. In April, we workshopped with our constitutional officers and the chief judge to make sure that we had good line of sight on their budget priorities for
the upcoming year as well. and we held a bunch of rigorous internal meetings to really kind of shape and form and um malate the budget that we're presenting to you today. In June, we workshopped again and at that time we had our June preliminary
taxable assess value numbers and now we're back in July with final taxable assess value numbers and to set trim and then after this we'll have two public hearings in September so we can adopt the budget. All right. So, let's get reggrounding our
strategic priorities for year one. Now, some of what you see up here, uh, we're going to be aligning resources through the adopted fiscal year 26 budget, but we also have a team that's working hard on that community development block grant disaster recovery funding, which
is also going to assist us in being able to move the needle on some of these items that we've been talking about this year. So, community resilience and sustainability, reducing homelessness, access and availability to cultural, educational, recreational, and social opportunities,
meeting affordable and attainable housing needs, stressed communities, and supporting our small businesses and entrepreneurship. All right, so budgetary assumptions. So, now we're talking about kind of the revenue side of the house. And before you today for um the proposed budget,
we've got no change in the general operating millillage, no change in the fire MSTU, no change in our road rehabilitation MSTU, and then based off of the um heavy dialogue that we had in June, we are presenting zero mills for
the parks MSTU. no change in the storm water assessment. Next month there will be two rate hearings for the water and wastewater rates and then for our solid waste. Um fiscal year 26 is the seventh
year of our 7 for7 plan. Um so that is all baked into the numbers that we're presenting to you today. All right. So this slide is showing you our taxable assessed value and how that changed from our June 1 preliminary number to our
July 1 final number. And in the general fund after we look at the sheriff's allocation, the change in our payments to the CRAAS and our increase in payments to our um tax increment finance financing units, you're looking at
roughly 3.84 84 million more dollars in advorum taxes in the general fund. That uh same increase in July looks like 1.8 million more in the fire MSU than we talked about at the June workshop and roughly 300,000 more to the road MSTU
than what we discussed in the workshop. But as you all will remember, the property taxes is one piece of our very complex general fund. And so, uh, it's important for us to talk about that business rent tax repeal. So, while
we had 3.84 more million more in property taxes in the general fund, the business rent tax repeal yielded $7.2 million less in halfcent sales tax revenue. And so, our the big picture impact here is our reserves are about
2.5 million less what we're presenting today than what we presented in June. And so that equates to roughly two days less of our operating in reserves. All right. So, um, this slide is very similar.
So, so it cost us, you said you're $2 million less and we lose, that's two days. So, it cost this county about a million dollars a day to operate in the general fund. Out of the general fund. That's new statistics I hadn't heard
before. So million dollar. Okay. Thank you, Madam Chair. Quick question. Yes. Um, so the reserves generally what they run like what's our goal? So our goal is 60 days in reserves and so right now we're looking at 34 and that's because the storms we just
went through that were reserves have dropped down. Correct. Part of it is the storms. Part of it is um we were already experiencing um less and half cent sales tax revenue than we were expecting this time last year. Um, so there were there were a few things
that kind of got us to to this point. All right. So the general fund, so those revenues we were talking about, how are those allocated to expenses within the general fund? So you'll see the big piece of the pie, the purple piece, um
that's our public safety, which makes up our sheriff office, corrections, fire, rescue, emergency management, um those types of services, our 911, dispatchers. Um the next piece of the pie, that teal, that is that reserve amount that we were
just talking about. And then if you keep coming, that blue one is our general government, which is facilities, our different administrative departments, information technology, those types of departments. If you keep going to that red bit, that's the other constitutional
officers, less the sheriff, plus the sixth judicial circuit and how we support them in the general fund. And then the last piece of the pie is our outward-f facing departments like our parks, community services, libraries, um misdemeanor probation, those types of
things. All right. So, constitutional officer budget request. The one So, there's two things in here that are a little bit different from the June workshop. And so, we'll start with the clerk's budget. So, you'll remember that um she was
requesting an additional position to the tune of $60,000 a year annually because of the value adjustment board impacts with the tax bill that got passed. And so, that is baked into her number. And then the second component that's different is the sheriff. So, based off
the 11.2% taxable assessed value growth, his budget adjusted up likewise. Um but good news. So, the sheriff as a fiscal conservative believes that he can take roughly 2 million less of that amount that we have allocated to him. Um, and
he also wanted to say that he appreciates the funding that the board worked really hard to set aside for his helicopters and that the state um worked hard to help fund some of their critical capital projects. And so, while that number is not yet reflected here, uh we will be making
those adjustments as we come to you for the first public hearing. Okay. And then this is our outside funding. And just a friendly reminder that anything that is bolded and italicized on this slide are statemandated for us to fund. Anything that is not bolded and italicized are at
the board's discretion. All right. And so this slide is by and large the same as it was from the workshop. The only update is with the homeless program administrator. We did get somebody on board and so now we were able to kind of finalize what that recurring dollar amount is going to look
like. And so we have that up here. And then these are um some additional initiatives that the county administrator is proposing since we got the July 1 taxable assess value numbers. And so the first grouping of items, we're calling those by and large costneutral. So either they're offset by
revenue that will be generated or expiring contracts or for the most part it's going to be offset. And so we'll talk through those. We've got um ambulance medical billers who should be able to generate more revenue for us that is going to offset the cost of those positions. our parks director had
some expiring contracts and so he's repurposing his recommendation is to repurpose those funds to a Sunwest crew leader and a Starky Ranch District Park sports turf management. And then that last bit is where I say mostly
costneutral. So for project managers for transportation engineering, the majority of that of those dollars are going to be charged back to capital projects, but there's some some overhead that we just can't charge back. So, at roughly 10,000
a position um won't be charged back, but by and large the majority of the cost will be. Um and I don't know, Mike, if there's anything else you wanted to touch on here. Just keep it moving, she says. And then
I What did I do? Oh, now I went too much every time. I do this every time. Okay. All right. I, you know, I joke and I said there's going to be something silly I do. Well, we got to it. All right. So, now here's our general fund capital that's being
recommended for this year. Um, you'll see the Hudson Library. The total cost is still at that $10 million, but we did want to be specific and talk about what of those costs are specific to the renovation bit and what of those are, you know, just wear and tear on the
building itself and some repair that we need to do, things like water intrusion in the walls, some roof repairs. There's a parking lot that needs um some tender loving care. And then the board did direct us in June to add $3 million to
the park's capital maintenance budget. And so in June that number for the parks maintenance was 1.253 million. And now you'll see that is 4.253 million. And then we did get an updated cost estimate for the sheriff's armory.
All right. So change in our major funds. So major fund as defined by the statute is a fund that makes up 10% of the overall budget for the county. And so all of the funds here listed meet that definition save the tourism development
tax. But that is a um that's an important fund for our board. So we always do like to come back and talk about it. So some general assumptions that are in the proposed budget. We've got wage increases are in there. Retirement increases are in there.
general um inflation and then also any new initiatives that are being added to those funds. And so we have a couple slides after this one that'll outline what some of those initiatives are. All right. So I'll just touch on a couple of these. So, looking at our
building inspections, um our team is adding two mobile permitting trailers, a few positions, and some software enhancements. Our county transportation trust fund is adding some vehicle equipment, landscape maintenance, and some positions. Now, by and large, what
you see on this slide is um our county and our departments keeping up with the work that they're already doing um and just making sure that we're able to really meet those demands for service. So, um, let's see. Storm water
management, same thing. Adding some vehicles equipment and a a small number of positions. And when we get to the solid waste system fund, again, vehicles, equipment, minor positions. And then you'll also notice that they are working through their master plan revision just to make sure that they are
teed up and ready to go when they come back um to see what are those needs when their 77year plan expires. All right. And then our water utility fund. Um, so by and large, what you see on this slide
are positions to meet growth and some studies to make sure that we're, you know, prioritizing our resources in the right spot. All right. So, big picture, um, our five-year capital improvement plan less the general fund because we had those called out. And again, this is one of
those beefy handouts that you all have in your binders. Um, but looking at a $ 1.7 billion budget, you'll remember, I'm sure, this time last year, our 5year CIP was about 1.8 billion. So, we're still roughly on par with the same kind of
growth that we've been experiencing. And then we are taking this transportation line here and then we have broken that out by the different types of categories. um how they group those projects. So looking at landscaping, big capacity projects, um
multimodal, so things like sidewalks and whatnot, signals, street lights, and then again, this is another one of those packets, and it's pretty beefy. So all the I'm going to get this wrong. Nitty-gritty details. I might have gotten it right, but I might have gotten it wrong, but all the details are in
your packet. All right, so we've got two slides here that show mill rate. So, this one um state statute requires us to show you how we compare to the rolled back rate, but we also want to take a second and
just talk about how are our proposed millage rates compared to our current millage rates for 25 adopted. Um, and so you'll notice where we talked about we're proposing no changes, but then when you get to the general obligation bonds, so the way these work is that we
have a millage that will generate the revenue we need to pay our debt service and the interest payments for that year for those bonds. And so because we've been experiencing some growth, you take that same number, you apply it over more um taxpayers, and then it actually turns
out to a slight savings to each individual person. So, just taking a moment to educate kind of how those general obligation bonds work. Um, that is a call that our office fields quite often uh about this time next month.
So, that's awesome. They're going down. All right. And so here's the the state statute how we compare to the um the rolled back rate which a reminder that rolled back rate would generate exactly the same revenue um for the most part as
what we received in this year. All right. So we're here today to approve our proposed millage rates and also to set the first public hearing for Wednesday, September 3rd, 2025 at 5:15 here in Dade City. And when the board um
does do this, both of these will be published on the trim notices that will go out in August. Any questions or do we want to move to approve? Move to approve. Second. All in favor? I
time spare. Wow. Commissioner's items. That was close. What is it? Your turn. I load up my picture. My turn. Your turn. Okay. We're going to talk about a
We're going to talk about a large tree out here next to the World War II memorial. But first, I'm going to show you this film of a tree over by the U government center, the courthouse or the courthouse. Yeah.
So, we'll watch. If you watch the uh as it moves, you'll see what happens. No wind, clear day, and it's gone. Show no issues of uh
problems with the tree, but uh as you noticed, it toppled down. Good thing you were not sitting there eating lunch at the uh table there. So, so a a question that happened in 2022. It doesn't look like there was any maintenance done on that oak tree. No
thinning maintenance. Yeah, you have to trim trim these up oak trees. I I mean that that branch looks super heavy. And
did did anyone ever do anything to I don't a tree. It had no issues. Right. Well, I think I think it doesn't look like someone So, if I get Andrew took care of that tree and loved that tree.
And so, we'll go back to what what this is talking about is I have been very concerned since I've been elected as commissioner here in District 1 of the tree that sits out here by the World War II memorial. Um, we've missed
uh having real we've had issues over the years because several limbs have come off that that tree, but none have fell on the World War II memorial. The tree we have found out through an arrest back uh probably seven, eight years ago is is
dated as somewhere between 200 and 250 years that tree. And according to that arborist back at that time said it was near its end of its life as a tree. Um
I got a call that a tree limb had come off of it during the storm all the storms we had. We were very lucky a huge tree down meridian closed meridian after those storms because it toppled over. It was as big or bigger than this tree. But
I had an M come off this one that was about eight or 10 inches. It just so happened to fall on the west side of the tree and um didn't cause a problem with our World War II memorial. But I have a great fear of the fact that that's going
to happen. And with another storm season coming up, um I think it's been a while back. Maybe Andrew can give me a little history of of when we all discussed this before about a new landscape around the
courthouse. So, if you can do that, Andrew, that Yes, sir. Um, and it's regarding the maintenance of trees. We do our best to maintain all of the trees on county properties. Obviously, we have a budget that we have to live within and uh there
there's a reason that we are aware of this tree because we did an arborist report on it eight years ago and take took action to ensure we are maintaining our trees as best as we can. Um and yet still a catastrophic failure um
occurred. And so last year uh when this event occurred about three years ago, last year we we started talking to each of the board members individually about hey this tree
failed catastrophically. We have a similar aged tree here on this campus but there's a critical asset that we have that's right next to it that's historic. The band stand and this
building are registered historic places nationally and we want to ensure that we preserve those historic resources. And so a discussion was had with each member of the board to how would you like to proceed? Uh what are some of the options
that we can look at to ensure that we consider uh the age of this tree considering the previous arborist report. Again, it is seven to eight years old. Um, and then ultimately last
summer we all agreed and I think Commissioner Oakley, you brought it back to the board and there was ultimately some consensus to move forward with the plan. Um, so we've been doing that. We have a contractors lined up and we were
about ready to uh begin the process of taking down this oak tree. Um, and that's when Dade City decided to uh pause that permit that we had sought. Um, but then there was some other
discussion that that's happened since then. And really what we're looking for is the way forward. But and and the reason I'm bringing it to you because uh the date city commission brought up that the tree looks great all this and they feel like there's no issue with the
World War II memorial, but I have I have different opinion that we have to worry about the World War II memorial. I have several family members names on that memorial as as a lot of people around this area have. Uh I don't want to see
it destroyed. So, but according to when it came up at the Day City Commission here not too long ago when we applied for a permit, um the word came out, well, it's only because Commissioner Oakley wants down. But I I want to believe that all my
commissioners in Pasco County want to preserve that World War II memorial. So that's why I brought it to the day today to discuss with you because you are a part of this and you've been a part of it since we've been talking about it over the last few years. But I mean
we're lucky at this point that it hadn't already happened. So it could happen any day. So during the last storms that limb came off pretty pretty rare. We were lucky during these past storms we had this last
summer. So, we're faced with that coming. Actually, u the rainfall and all and the event we had with weather yesterday was some tornado sightings in this area. We could have had that come out yesterday.
So, that's how critical it is to move forward. So, but I want to bring y'all get your interpretation, get get how you feel about it. So, okay. Um, my only issue is that I wanted it to be
replaced with another oak tree, but you don't want to replace it. Or that's not the thought. A after meeting with all the commissioners, I always said I wanted oak trees back around here. Understood. Um after meeting with all
the commissioners um there wasn't 100% consensus on what the landscaping plan looked like. So we tried to create a bridged landscaping plan that was that met the majority of everyone's needs. Um we shared with the the board uh that we
have a lot of oak trees around the property already. We also shared with the members of the board some of the historical photos of this campus here around the historic courthouse and that there used to be many sable palms on the
property and currently there are none. And so it was and I also showed that that's something that's traditional at many other historic courouses around the state. Um and so we thought that that might be an element to bring back onto
the campus. um it was part of the history of this campus and we thought that would be a good idea. Additionally, there were some other ideas about uh oaks and magnolia and we've tried to do our best to incorporate that into a universal plan that does the best to
provide for this campus. Do you have a picture of that of what your plan is so the public can see it here? If I could share Andrew. Sure. A little bit of historic historical not
background. Historical too. When I was city manager here in Dade City, the tree canopy became was very precious to a lot of folks. and uh right after the storms the next year that made spaghetti out of
most of the power lines. Why then there was a concerted effort to do something about it. But back in the early 90s, Dan Johnson, who took my place as assistant county administrator for facilities or over facilities, had a plan to rework
the canopy around this building for a uniform canopy that would have developed over the years and whatever. And again it got sidelined uh at that time because of concern for the stately trees. Um but um again we
have had concerns going back that far uh above that tree because it has a very limit limited area of soil for that size tree and uh being able to get
so it's it's interesting how long that tree has stood but like many of us time is catching up. Oh yes right. Yes, sir. Thank you for that history. Appreciate it, Harold. Um, and so you can see what the proposal was
there. And this is what I shared last summer with all the different commissioners individually. Um, the two uh trees that are were represented by those big orange dots. Those were removed by Dade City um due to concerns
along 301 about two years ago. Did they replace them with anything? They had came down. They came down. Now, the one to the during the storm, they took them down and they didn't put anything else up in its place. No, ma'am. They didn't get rid of the stump. I don't believe either.
The one to the north was important that it that it went away because that's now where the peace officer memorial is. The tree highlighted in blue, um, that also needed to be removed so that we could accommodate the peace officer memorial.
The tree highlighted at the yellow dot, all the ones in white dots are trees that remain on the campus. The tree highlighted in yellow when we did our arborist report um seven or eight years ago, that one was uh that one was diseased and needed to be taken down. Their recommendation was taken down
immediately. So, that one is go is has been taken down several years ago. Um there's a vacant spot. If you look over there, kind of where the the row of trees are, there's a vacant spot. Well, we got money. we're ready. We and that was part of our replacement plan um was to potentially put a
magnolia in that area to represent some southern charm and that was some of the feedback that we had gotten. Um and then to if you can go back to the red dot is obviously our large uh stately oak that uh is sensient. It is
at the final stage of its life according to the arborist report that we had done. what our proposal was. Andrew, the fact of it is before we do take it down, we're going to reach out to a third party
and get his report based on what our findings are so far. Yes. I think it's I think it's important to not be in in conflict like Commissioner Oakley. I have family members names on that memorial. May Brian offer protective
a bunch of but I think I think to to to to have a good partnership with the city that we we ought to do our own independent arborist report just to see we're going to and uh then what then what that that answer the question and then you know if
we're getting real back into the into the weeds um Commissioner Shive I'm sure he's reached out to you too obviously he's he and the city have concern about where they can do their Christmas tree lighting so I think it'd be good you you know, have a make sure they have a spot that they can do do their annual
Christmas festivities, however that lays out in in partnership with with the city. I don't we're not going to affect the spot they've been using for their Christmas tree out to the front left here. Okay. So, there's electric there for them and it's there. So, so ultimately we're we're we're sort of
committed to this plan that we've already sort of established. It's now with Dade City putting the the permit on pause. We've come to understand that there's actually an exception. Um, but that's really a determination of whether
the board wants to move forward. What we propose to do is to do a third arborist report, one that is funded by Pasco County, represents us as the owner, and try to determine what the best path forward is.
Okay. Okay. But that's the right way. So everybody's we're above board. We're not keeping secrets. I'm not going to take that tree down without y'all knowing. I mean, this is all our campus as as commissioners here in Basco County. So I I just can tell you when I go to a
parking lot and if there's a spot open and under the shade, I'm going to take it. Yeah. Most people avoid it and I'll wait for it if someone's walking to their car around and give them one across from it in the sun. Yeah. Most people don't want that dropping on your their car.
My Porsche goes right under the shoe tree. Yeah, I agree. Any further discussion on this? So, I think we're fine. We we just need to move forward and u get that third party uh report and uh go from there.
I just wish you were placed. Hopefully, the tree stands while we're doing this. So, I think time's of the essence. So, absolutely. We'll we'll act quickly. Um uh while you're up here, do you go around and I'm going to show a picture
of my commissioner items, but are you do we have someone who looks at our trees and thins them properly so they live long and healthy? Yes, ma'am. Especially important ones that are around the courthouse. Yes, ma'am. Okay. Well, based on that one that one should not have looked like that that was over by the other courthouse.
Yes, ma'am. We with within the budget cap capabilities that we have, we do our best to maintain all of our trees at all of our campuses. Well, he has 9 something million budget capabilities that we learned of today dollars.
Apparently, I'm going to have less money now. I think that historic I think the historical look of of the courthouse going back to like it was in the 30s or 40s with some of the sable palms and things of that nature that are that's the state tree. That was a very nice
look and when Andrew first showed me that picture is pretty amazing. Yeah, I think Gina has that right now for the historic um some other courouses around and even our our courthouse house campus from those historic photos that we that
we had. It means the um Yeah. So, these are other courouses. This is Jefferson County. Here's Citrus County. It's interesting to look at that Citrus County one because you can see when they first planted those palms to what they
are today. Um that's kind of a fun look. you know, and then that's what we do at our other courouses. Here's our Robert D. Sumner Judicial Center and our West Pasca Judicial Center. And then finally, here's here's the campus. And you can
see multiple sable palms and and other palms around the courthouse. I see that trees, too. You know, that that one has 51 on it. Uh, and I it's hard to tell what date is on that top right corner, but I see it there. I don't know if Gina, you can
read it better. Yeah. But historically, obviously, uh, palms are a tradition. Yep. And it's something that not not only do we want the house for the majesty of the oaks, but we want that that Florida feel as well. Yep. Right. Commissioner,
that's all I have. Wait, Commissioner Wait. I have nothing. Uh, Commissioner Joerger. Okay. This was a home dedication for the Golden Hanley, Habitat for Humanity. Um,
this house was gorgeous. Um, it was, was this a three or four bedroomedroom, guys? Four. This was a four bedroomedroom house. Um, absolutely beautiful. They are, um, buying up lots in Newport Richie and Port Richie. So,
that was really neat. And, um, this was our we had part with the um health department with TR and her team. We did a um wellness fair out in Moon Lake. We had vision and blood pressure checks. Uh
matter of fact, we had one lady, her blood pressure was so high that um they wouldn't let her go anywhere and she had to immediately go see the nurse. Oh, great. Um, I want to say with the mammograms, I'm trying to remember, I think we had 14 mammograms done that day
and normally their numbers are a lot lower than that for an event. We had the dental bus, but sadly they had to leave early because their generator went out. Um, we had uh HIV and hepatitis C testing.
We had mosquito control wick and we had Grace's food pantry out there giving out food. So, um it was very much a success and we are going to do another one in the fall. Um Moffett was there as well
and I want to say they had six people sign up. You have to sign up prior for lung screenings and they said they could be at an event all day and they may have one or two. So, they were really really happy um with the re with our numbers
there. So um and I want to say they had like 10 shots given for um hepatitis. So yeah, it was a great successful event. So and thank you to Train and her department for doing that and her volunteers. They were there on a
Saturday and um we had so much help. So it was great and we're going to do it again. So great. That's all I have. Mariana, I got a few pictures. We had a couple of ribbon cutings. Let's see which one we get to. That's just a picture of a uh county I
was at where I suggested we did this years ago. Everywhere. We don't do it. Huh. Every time we should have a trash vehicle press, there should be a recycle item next to it. And we should start with our parks, our buildings, and then
let it go from there. But every every city you kind of see that's what they do. I've actually given John Batista at the FAC conference who was a person who had those exact things. I took a picture of the brochure, sent over to John. He's he's working on that for us as well to bring us something back. But I think it's something we should get back to it
and incorporate that. The more intense we do with recycling, the more we save the landfill, the more we save the burner, make it more efficient. So, we need to, I think, step up our game a little bit. Um, and that that was a picture from that. You see that picture? That was from 2020. Oh, wow.
I had more recent ones, so it's not the first time I've talked about it. Right. All right. Next pictures. Uh there's a groundbreaking in Hudson across the HCA hospital along the trail at 5A that we just had done. Part of the reason this got funded was that trail that was like the last missing link as far as like
connecting. It connects to shopping. It connects to a library and now right along the hospital. So, that was a a big trigger. That's phase one of three. And they're going all the way down to this 30% AMI. Who is this again? ECOS. Uh McDonald McDonald Development,
I believe it was. Yeah. Uh they partnered with Truish Bank. Uh that project's been again phase one. They'll be looking at phase two and three coming up. But again, your lowincome people like we say want to take care of. This is going to take those seniors that don't have anything more than income as far as just a social
security check can afford to live there. It's going to be great. Uh, next picture we had the Merrill Brothers which I will tell you people that look are looking at this looking at Pasco County is being brilliant for for taking this step forward. I I would say as good as the waste energy plant was this is getting
looked at. the bioolids what used to be really expensive. We were looked at this years ago and I tell you Mera Brothers a familyrun company very well very a lot of smart people they have now got I think it's 80 employees down here in Pasco County but are looking to do more
like more of this around the around the state around the nation and the more they do it I think it's better off for everybody but going to show a couple more pictures kind of just show you the trucks they got maybe not all we got anyway it was a great ground great ribbon been cutting for what they
were doing. They are now bagging their bio solid. So, they're going to be able to sell to Home Depot and Lowe's, etc., which we share in that revenue, and that will even cut our cost down more. A great picture. Uh coming up here, we got the Scolop Music Festival starting July 24th. Uh we've got uh the American Stones are
kicking it off. Uh and at the same time, they're there. We're going to have Point Distillery there as one of the uh sponsors that'll be there. They'll have uh their own product that's out there. And if you don't recall that the hurricane rum that the Rolling Stones sell internationally is made right here in Pasco County right near 52 in Little.
Uh they got a new test tasting they're looking at doing should be great. We've got a beach volleyball tournament coming in. We've got a scallops um splash race a 5K run be going all the way around. We've got a carnival that's going to be coming in and we've made it really
economically uh to make it so it's affordable for kids to go that don't have much money. Matter of fact, Commissioner Simpson is helping sponsor with that. Um there's going to be a US water ski uh team that's going to be out there. They'll be out there the first Sunday and the next Friday, next
Saturday, Sunday as well. You can see the list of sponsors. A lot of these people that do work in the county are giving back to make it so it's free for everybody to come. So, not only at Pasco residence, but also free for everybody else to come in. All you do is pays the parking and away you go. So, we're
looking forward to that to be a great kickoff as well. I see one more picture. And you're getting um Starky Seltzers donation. Starky Selzers. Yes. The strawberry lemon coming. Yeah. Oh, that's the best. It's really good. Really, really good. Yes. Put a little wine in it. Make a wine
spritz or spritz. That's all I've got. So, you doubled down. Double down. uh county administrator really just uh one one thing it struck me as we were talking about all the art
um dawned on me that um our libraries team in conjunction with our employees uh again we're doing another successful year of the Pasco perspective which is where our um our employees and their families uh generate art various uh various mediums and they're on display
now in the uh Westside Government Center And so I just encourage you to to take a look, check it out. Some really interesting stuff that uh that's been put forward and thanks to our libraries team for kind of running with this and making it such a success. So you'll see that uh I I knew it was going to be a few about a month before we're there, so
I wanted to mention it. Maybe you're on that side of the campus. That's all. Um one of you two. Hi. Okay. County attorney. Um, if if David will come up, uh, you were all given a
copy, emailed a copy on Friday of Mr. Coldstein's memo on Senate Bill 180 and what it potentially can do to fire rescue impact fee as well as a whole lot of other ordinances.
Um, I'd like David to kind of walk through his memo with you all. Yeah. So, um, Mr. Moore kind of briefly touched on Senate Bill 180, but and he he was correct that it does potentially prevent you from adopting more
restrictive or burdensome land development regulation amendments, comprehensive plan amendments, u moratoriums, or any additional procedures that would impact um issuance of development orders or permits. The reason the primary purpose for the
memo is that this what Mr. more did not cover is that there's a section 28 of that bill that actually is the more problematic part of the bill because it's retroactive to land land development regulations that you've already adopted after August
1st of last year and it prevents anything from being more restrictive or burdensome until October 1st of 2027 for the entire state of Florida. So it's not just within 100 miles of where the hurricane landed. The entire state of Florida is prevented from adopting more burdensome or
restrictive regulations from August 1st of last year until October 1st of 2027. That's in section 28 of the bill. Mr. Moore covered section 18. That also applies, but that's for a year after the hurricane makes landfall and only within
100 miles of where it makes landfall. So the problem with it being retroactive is that it applies to amend potentially applies to land development regulation amendments that you've already adopted. And just by way of example, that would include the car wash ordinance that you
adopted in September of last year. uh invasive vegetation. There's a few others, but the one that really needed some immediate attention is the fire rescue impact fee because that was due to effect take effect on July 1 of this
year. So, we temper after Senate Bill 180 got signed by the governor, we asked for it to be the implementation to be put on hold until we could get some feedback from the board about how you wanted to proceed. Now I will tell you this law is not a model
of clarity. It does not define what more restrictive or burdensome means. So we don't know what it means. It is not clear about whether it applies to properties damaged by hurricane or if it applies to the basically all development
that occurs in the county. Um, so you know, there's a lot of ambiguities in it and I don't know if those ambiguities are are going to be resolved either through litigation, maybe the legislature will fix it next session. It's my understanding this this these provisions of the bill were added
at the very last minute to this emergency management bill. They were not part of the bill going through the whole process. And so there's very little opportunity for Florida Association of Counties, Florida for League of Cities, our own lobbyists to
get ahead of this one because it got added at the last minute. There was a big push to ask the governor to veto it, but I think because it was included in an emergency management bill that had otherwise good provisions in it, the governor was reluctant to veto it. So I looking at these, you got three
options on here. Three options. And they're probably listed in terms of most aggressive to least number one for me. Yeah. So one one would be probably the most aggressive option. Um three is the most conservative option. One basically
is we let the impact fee take effect. Um and then if somebody goes but not not on new construction, not on anybody that was damaged by the hurricane. Anybody was damaged by the hurricane. But let me let me be clear. Even under before 180 was adopted, we likely would
not have assessed an impact fee to somebody damaged by hurricane because there was already an exception in our ordinance for for um replacement structures. So, we don't assess an impact fee on a replacement structure anyway. The other thing that's interesting about our impact fee is we
use it to respond to hurricanes. So, this is to buy our fire rescue vehicles that we use during a hurricane. Um, so I mean if I had to defend any particular ordinance against 180, this would probably be it. It's probably a good
poster child if we have to go to litigation because it's so important for public safety purposes. So I'm not sure the legislature realized that they were impacting public safety when they put this in the bill, but for us it is
impacting public safety. So option one of the three is basically says that we would allow the impact fee to take effect and then if we get anybody challenging it we county attorney's office will defend it and can't promise you whether we will win because it's an ambiguous ambiguous law. I don't know
what a judge is going to decide. There is a little bit of a risk that we'd have to pay attorneys fees if we lose because that's also in the bill. Um so there is some risk associated with one. That's why it's probably the riskiest option. two basically says we allow it to take
effect and if somebody either sues us or gives us notice that they're invoking the act, then we come back to the board and ask you what you want to do. And then three is probably the most conservative option, which is we just defer the increase until October 2nd of
2027 or a year after the last hurricane has made landfall in Basco County. Who's good for one besides me? I'm good for one. I'm good for one. And Madam Chair, I think just because this I think we started this fee what 12 years ago, 15 years ago. Hadn't increased it.
We have not increased the fire rescue impact fee since 200 since it was originally adopted in 2004. Four. Okay. So 20. So have it. So it can't be burdensome. It's been expected. I think I think number one's the way to go. I'll make that motion. Well, we we owe it to
everybody that that does that job that um they not need to be worried with what Tallahassee is doing. Let this board take the hits with them. That way they can keep doing what they need to do to keep our folks safe and healthy.
Madam Chair, motion second. A motion second. And I and I think just to add a little more comment. I think um we've got an appropriation share senator up there that would probably be very very helpful in trying to get this amended to make sure that it doesn't hurt us when it does come up. Okay.
Okay. Uh is that do you need a a motion or just board direction? You might you've got a motion in a second. You might as well take a vote. All in favor? I hope you defend that that car wash ordinance with the same vigor.
Otherwise, you're coming with me out in the world and you'll understand. We have we have some good arguments ready to go. So, and I and we we escaped this with the parks fee. We are out park impact fee was prior to August of last year.
Okay. Um you know, we talked about a law enforcement or whatever we're calling it impact fee. Well, let me be clear. All right. We talked about the stuff you've already adopted, but even stuff that you have pending is potentially subject to 180. So, you got you talked about the comp
plan update. Um, we've got, you know, other regulations that are kind of making their way backyard chickens, covers over docks. I mean, any amendment we do to our land development regulations. Oh, I guess there's somebody that could argue that it's more restrictive or burdensome. So
we we I chair I think we just need to keep moving forward and governing ourselves and what do what we were elected to do and what the people expect us to the decisions that we need to make and then if someone challenges it they challenge it. Yeah. And we'll tell them why. Yep. I agree. We will let it be known why we
are being challenged. the the the finesse point of the of the law really is we don't know that just by exempting stuff that was damaged is going to be good enough. I know but we're willing to test the waters.
But so there there might be somebody who challenges any of these regulations based on the fact that it was a declared state of emergency and you can't you can't do anything. But we're willing to take We were a county that waved our building
fees, paid for our houses to be demolished. We went over and above. So, I feel we're in a good good place. Okay. We have direction. Thank you. I and I think when we have our our legislative discussions, we're going to
talk about counties who who are finished finishing or just finished their comp plan revisions in this year should be exempt from some of that stuff. So, I had discussions with our legislators at lunch. Well, what I'm hearing the board say is you want to just keep doing business as
usual and we'll litigate it. Yeah. We don't want you guys to stop working on LDC's or you know tee everything up and we are going to keep moving on. It does seem to be a conflict when they tell you you have to do an an evaluation
and appraisal report and then say you can't do anything with it. You know what we could we could ask our development community if they want no more comprehensive plan changes for the next two years. Well, interestingly, it does exempt privately initiated plan amendments.
That's the one thing that is exempt. So, all right. Thank you for the director. Thank you. Anything? Anything else? Thank you. Um, yes. Uh, clerk Alvarez Souls wanted me to call the board's attention to item
N 107, which was just a an example of working together with the inspector general's office, providing um part of their work plan and uh working with utilities to verify the u accurate implementation of new new
utility rates and through testing through their extension partner Corvvis Mazars. cars. They did find some areas that needed to be cleaned up. Utilities took care of that and is um again it's just cleaned up the house a little bit
and was a positive uh experience and work together between the inspector general and u of our office and utilities. So just a a positive thing that we can do. It's not always it's not intended to be gotchas. It's how can we
help and it worked out well. Great. Okay. Is that it? That's it. All right. I have some um Well, I guess we'll start with Niko. I So, I uh recently attended the Niko conference.
Um it was in an interesting city where they had to cancel. I always do the Niko bike ride and um it's an early morning thing and they didn't have one in Philly because they said it was too dangerous. So, that was that was kind of interesting. Um but um as one of the
highlights was uh our own Gavin here winning uh intergovernmental relations off official of the year. Davin won that. He's with fact. Um and that's me in the upper um
picture um talking to General Mcrist. Is that how you say his name? Mcrist who used to run Jac. Um he was our speaker at our board meeting, board of directors meeting on leadership. um very interesting man and um I talked to him
about initiative I've had for a number of years at Niko to make it easier for the spouses of um military families to be able to work in multiple states because my daughter is a a PA and every time they move which sometimes one year
sometimes two years um she has to go through this whole process to be able to be a physician assistant in that state and and um it takes 6 to 8 months. She has to get a letter from everyone she's worked at and it's just crazy um what
some of these military families go through. So, he was appreciative of that. I didn't want to take very many pictures. Do you have anything else to add to Nico? Um oh yes, this is fact. Uh this is Derek Burgerer getting an award.
when he was my assistant and we go to the conferences, he would take classes and um get his uh points towards um filling fulfilling this education program and he was able to come over
finish up and get his award um this last week. So, um or two weeks ago. Um that is the CGE designation. It consists of a total of 45 hours of coursework. Gosh, Jack, your your staff should be able to
get that. Consisting of um let's see, diverse range of courses such as growth management, financial management and ethics, elective courses such as affordable housing, emergency management, and resiliency. So, um that
was very good. Uh I um on the way home from fact I stopped at a um a Publix in Orlando and yeah they put oak they put oak trees in theirs and we put crepe myrtles and it was so hot in Orlando and
when I drove in that parking lot it was so refreshing to drive in through the shade. There's some there's some more pictures from there. But this is what this is what I was talking about to Commissioner Oakley who looks like he's gone, but they're trimming their trees and they're thinning them out so that
they grow healthy. And um but it's it just looks so much better than what we have. So as you're driving around the county, take a look at our development and look how we really have so few of our tree canopy left in the developed areas. Um, I spoke at the Bama dinner. I
think you should have a picture of that. Maybe, maybe not. Um, which is the Bay Area Manufacturing, uh, annual dinner. And then I have a few other notes. So, I mentioned to you, um, that this upcoming year, and I don't
remember what they call it, is the 250th year of the of our independence when we declared independence. and almost all the counties that I talked to have something planned. So, I thought we
should start thinking about something. And you know those video machines that we got? Um you know those ones those those ones that were Yeah. So I got one and the county got one. You can project a movie or something 300
feet to 30 feet in perfect quality. their laser. We could we could have fun with those around the county showing showing, you know, interesting historical things. That was just a something that came to my mind. But I'd like for you to assign someone. She
might be sitting to your right to be thinking about what can we do to celebrate in a special way our 250th anniversary. And you all be thinking of of things. It it might be good if we could collaborate with the cities and
all work together, whether it's one side or two sides. I was thinking and incorporate some fireworks. We don't like fireworks. Let's not just leave it to the cities, though. Let's let's participate. Ask them to to partner with us. It's not
probably going to be a cheap endeavor, but there's I think it needs to be a whole at least the offer needs to be made and have the whole county Yeah. involved. Let's Let's decorate up the county in red, white, and blue. Um I was thinking we could each do a part of
reading the direct Declaration of Independence. Um light the buildings up, huh? You want to light the buildings? Light buildings up. You know, you want to make a motion. I don't know if we're allowed to put banners on polls on state 54 and 52. You
know, some some bunting, whatever. But let's let's think about doing it up. No, I think they we want to come you to come back to us with ideas. We will come back to you with a sister centennial. Is that what they call it? That's what it's called. Okay. Yeah. I I can't remember that. Um
All right. And uh I um I've got a very big issue brewing in my district and it's going to touch both of yours and that is the lack of playing fields. Before it was little league baseball, but now it's flag football. Exactly.
And u Yeah, it's bad. But we just went through uh a procedure that our county put together for four different leagues which included Pop Warner or PAL I'm not sure which an NFL league um and two
others on who would get to play like on one field and um they you know they ranked and scored and the the team they picked two teams actually one gets to play at Mitchell one gets to play on a field at Starky and the team that was
founded by a mom in Starky Ranch. Actually, I think um a flag football team from 2021 with 400 girls is out, no fields. So, um imagine the calls and
texts and things that I'm getting and um Keith and I have been racking our brains on what can we do. Um, I've got uh a talked to Commissioner Flowers from Penllis County about the property they own on Trinity Boulevard. Can you can he
go to Google Earth up there? If you could go to the um Panelis Pasco County line on Trinity Boulevard. Um I we've we've touched on this before, Mike, um about their property, but Commissioner Flowers is is again going to try at
their Thursday board workshop in Penllis to see if at our expense we could put some fields in there and some lights and maybe we'll have to bring a portaot some portaotties. But um it's land that Penelis County has Penelis County Utilities that they are not using. They,
you know, I asked if we could buy it. Um, and um, they said no. They said no. Right. You, I mean, you were, you were leading those discussions. I don't know what their issues were. Okay. Go to up here to the right. Upper right there and
zoom in. Uh, to Yep. Over over right. See it right there? It's all upland. It's Nope. You went too far. It's that that area right there. Right there. Zoom in on that, please. This is Penllis County Utilities land. I
think they were going to use it for water treatment facility or something. Um, and it's would be they don't use it. They mow it. They have a very nice entrance. I'm just trying to see if we can throw some ball fields on there.
Even if it's temporary, we'll take the liability. Whatever it takes. Commissioner Mariana, I got another idea for you because you mentioned Mitchell as well as Trinity. And if you talk in my district, I'm not sure where it comes in, but I know we're talking about doing something at Magnolia Valley.
Yeah. But it's years away because of the environmental permits. I I think you got that old driving range that was right out front. You got a golf course that's got the arsenic on at that driving range, right? Um I don't know, but I I think with the land space you've got there, if you put
enough topping over it and you put the field over the top, I think it'd be all right. I think that would probably be an ideal site to actually go look at doing that and maybe as you say to try to make that happen with what you've got going on right now. That probably the quickest, simplest, easiest way to get something done
if if we could do that quickly. Um but I think they're out for bid again. Who's who's here from? Um is who's your aa here that knows about this issue? Where's Brford? Brandford would be the one who's on vacation.
I know. Okay. Well, I just had a meeting with some of those guys and talked to Keith about this and my understanding is they have to go they're going back out to bid that it's got arsenic on it and they have to get Army Corps approval before they can even start the the water the
you know the storm water project. We went through this at Gulf Arbors with the arsenic. That's what held up us closing. And get this, this is where some of the rules are so crazy. We can't even put a tennis court, like a a an asphalt pad
over it because it we have to get go back to DP because there's a little level of arsenic underneath. I'm like, well, it seems like if we're putting concrete or something on top of it, like even a clubhouse, no, there's arsenic in the ground. So, I said people are going to go out and eat the dirt underneath
the clubhouse. I don't I don't understand their rules. But we finally gave up trying to fight it. So I I think Jack that would I mean look into it but I think it's be longer than you think. Another suggestion I had I talked to Keith about was at Mitchell Park. We
have the back 40 there. The wet it's real wet at Mitchell Mitchell Fields. We have the back 40 where there's really nothing. I mean kids use practice there. And then the field across from the soccer field. It's small, but it could definitely be used for um like like for for kids like
flag football, you know, things like that. I I think one of the fields that this league is going on is at Mitchell. Um I I just we just don't we don't have enough fields. I got a league with 400 girls. They give college scholarships for flag football. There's four um let me see. I think it's
34 teams that now are out. Why? Why? If if the county is going to take responsibility and the board approved impact fee increases, why what's the hang up with the school board allowing us to use some of their facilities?
It I know in the summertime they're concerned about different things, but I feel like this is an unprecedented time. The county has grown 20 years younger within the last six years. They see it. They're in the in the youth business themselves.
We have a new administration. I can answer that. And I tried when I was on the school board, so I can answer that. I just recently asked um Keith to pull up all the uh areas that were lacking in parks that were near schools. And I have them I
have the two the school board and Keith talking to see how many more schools we we have opened up. I think, don't quote me on this, but I think they're working. They have seven right now that they that that are opened and we're talking about opening more schools and they have
they're all of them are elementary schools. So, this is and I tried to I tried to get rid of those fields. Well, now school going. It's up to the principles. Are they kind of is the school? There's a hierarchy in the school system. Yeah. Uh,
so you're saying the school system could potentially be open to the county taking liability and paying them to We already we have that agreement now and we have we have we have a master agreement with the school board that Yes. that could add fields. It's but I think the chair is right.
I know I've been down this road until now. They have left it up to the principles and there haven't been very many principles that and they don't necessarily want them with lights on and open at night. But my my my angle is to try and make it more of the superintendent's decision instead
of the principal because we're in need as a county and all these everybody pays taxes. Yeah, that's public land. Exactly. So these fields should be open. I know a legislator who might work on that. Yeah. Anyway, so we're in we're we are
actively working on that. Commissioner Raitlin. Yeah. And it would just be a wonderful thing. I mean, I just always just scratched my head as to why in the summertime and others is
you got public facilities that are closed. It's not right. It is not right. Agreed. I grew up playing on those fields. Well, there's new superintendent in town. Yeah, there may be a new opportunity. Great idea. Um, okay. So,
not a new one. The the the last one um I want to say is it's funny because we heard from our legislators, but I know um our county administrator was at the fact meeting and we heard some some of the talk about
doing us and that we were too heavy with employees and and they were putting numbers up there of employee growth and then and then we had uh the one of the top guys from LAR I don't remember who else was on that panel thing. Counties don't have enough employees. It's taking
too long to get permits, you know. So, they want us, you heard it today, they want us to increase our service. And um but they're going to cut our budget with this property tax thing. So, which which way is it? I I'm very I feel whiplash. No, we we we are we formally got doed,
right? So, we start the process. We start the pro your memo in your memo about the Florida. When do we start our process to Didn't you send Mike a a memo about I sent I sent an email to the board. We we're complying with all the state doge
requests that that come out. Absolutely. There was a commissioner I think it was from Manet who asked that question. Um just he did it much better than I did. But yes, I think we saw a lot of AI at the fact conference and they go big big topic. What's going to happen? So putting a policy in place I think we've done that
already is what we need to do. Uh so we're ahead of the game there. But there's opportunities through the state. I think if you have a compilation base of n about a million or more that you can get some money to go actually set up AI as well. So I think we need to look around us and kind of join forces to go
put a project together because it'll only help us anyway. The better the region does the better we all do. So I think if we could maybe David you could reach out and let's have those those conversation about how can we tap into some of that state money they've got allocated for AI could give us a free
program and help us out. Yeah. And I did send back some some of the transportation grants that um we talked about then I re was researching further while I was sitting there and I don't think we've applied for any of those. So, um, we need to get with our our lobbyists and make sure they're
earning their money and if and they need to point out some of those transportation grants that we should have applied for and that we could apply for. We missed a deadline on one. And that reminds me, I want to make sure that rolling grant that's coming out
that I told you about that the U Tampa Bay Regional Planning Council is allowed to go for, but we are too that um federal one. Um we need to be applying for that. Yes.
Three years ago, working with them, we were talking about baffle boxes like Indian River Randy Fine. Um we had them apply and they had to do a special way to do it. They had to include regional planning regional planning council and estuary combined together but had to separate them out. They get a total of
9.5 million all and they've now allocated the first chunk to the estuary about I want to say around $2 million. We can now go put our plan forward. I think we're working on it right now. Right Mike? Sorry I making some notes. I think we're working on money right now for B boxes,
litter traps through the regional planning council right now that we're going to submit a plan to to try to get a big chunk of that money. We'll be the first ones jumping into it. All right. Because there's there's um well, I'm not going to try and look it up. I'll send it again, but it came from Mike Matthews who used to chair used to
be the lobbyist for my committee at um Niko and he's the one who sent that grant to me. It the NOFO had come out that day. Okay. And um and it's a rolling it's a rolling grant till the money's gone and we just if we don't
apply we're not going to get any. Okay. Madam Chair, if I can have one takeback or I missed one. I was remiss in and you reminded me in your presentation. Uh Mr. Goldstein was given the friend award for
the Florida Association of County Attorneys. Oh yeah. for his work on live local. All right. So, I thought I needed to bring that to the board of and and I did get to see some of his presentation. It was very well received. I ran in there. You were done.
He's up there with the whole room and he's given a whole pitch on it. So, great job, David. I um we also uh won an award at Nico. Uh, and I'm I didn't I didn't have the whole list, but uh we we won an award for our Bayare um opioid mental health
um project. We won it at Niko and we won it at FAC. So um great program. Okay, with that we are Hey. Waterways and wildlife depend on you to keep them healthy. Excess fertilizer, grass clippings, trash,
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