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Joanna, there shouldn't be. There should be. They should be the same. the city. I just noticed it this morning. It's like they're spinning. Good morning. I'd like to uh call to order the Pascal
County Port of County Commission 10 a.m. meeting of August 19th, 2025. At this time, please silence all electronic devices and mute your microphones. We're going to rise for the invocation and the pledge. Good morning.
Let's pray. Oh, Father, we have gathered once again and looked at the agenda, Lord, and there's a lot on the agenda today. And so, I would just ask that you give us the wisdom to make the right decisions
on every agenda item today, Lord. And and if some of those decisions aren't what we would prefer, we ask that you give us grace to accept that, Lord, because everything we do, we do with hope of trying to better our community,
better our county, and so uh we ask that all the decisions that are made are those that uh are looking to benefit Pasco County Board. I thank you for all who have gathered today and we particularly lift up our building
construction folks as they've earned this accreditation. Lord, we thank you for their hard work and dedication and ask that you continue to guide and lead them along with all of the agencies of our county, Lord. So, thank you for your presence among us today and ask that you
just uh gird us with your wisdom and I lift us up in your name. Amen. Amen. To the flag of the United States of America all now is the time for public comment. Citizens are given an opportunity. Oh,
I'm sorry. Call the rollover. District one, Commissioner Oakland here. District two, Commissioner Wing present. Four, Commissioner Joerger. Excuse is not excused. District five, Commissioner Mariano here. District three, Chairman Stark
here. Okay. Now is the time for public comment. Citizens are given an opportunity to comment on any current or future agenda item coming before the board and on other business under the board's perview. Today's public comment
will be handled as follows. First, we will take public comment from those who are here in person and then we will take public comment from those who have pre-registered for WebEx Link and are currently online. We request that when you address the board, comments are not directed personally
against the commission or team member, but rather directed at the issues. This provides mutual respect between board members and the public. After stating your name and address for the clerk, a three minute timer will be activated and a green light will be shown on the
podium. After two minutes, a yellow light will indicate you have one minute left. When your time is up, a red light will be displayed. Three beeps will sound and you should close your comment. If you're online, you will be uh disconnected from that.
Do we have anyone signed up to speak? William Justin. My name is William Just veteran. I uh trying to bring to light a problem that we have.
So we we do need your address for the record. 277 Portro Men Court, Wesley Chapel, Florida 33544. Thank you. The problem is that as the the county
has the authority to uh he put out the codes, you know, and uh as while I was in the military, I followed the code and the code protected me. So I expect the
uh the the code of of the county to protect the people the same way. If if the code is violated and it's not protected, then then we have a problem because more people are going to go
through the same thing that I'm going through. I I just kind of lost $13,000 for windows that are that I was told, you know, uh one of the
inspector said, you know, that the the person puts a shrimp right there and doesn't let the inspector inspect, but you know, it it gets approved anyway. So we need to uh be conscious of uh all
the fraud or the things that are being done by by these people that that do work. Uh, this is the first time I've had work roofed on to my house and and this is the worst thing that I've gone through windows because the the the
county is supposed to be doing uh the code by by 2403.3, you know, the chapter 24 of of building code. And then if if if the inspector sees that is is is wrong and then
another inspector comes and doesn't want to follow the the rules or doesn't see the whole thing what what is going on, he's going to prove it and the people the people are are the ones that are
suffering because the there the code is is not is not being followed up. So, I'm just trying to get some justice. I I I normally don't uh interrupt, but thank you for your service. I don't understand
how you're out money. Well, I I I spent two They they collected from me $2,000 2,000 upfront $2,900. Then after that, now I I I still owe
$10,000.$10,000. a little bit more than $10,000, maybe 11 or something like that. And you know, they they wanted the money. You know, this this guy came to my house and he threatened me to take my house.
So, we have the whole building department right there behind you. I understand. We'll send someone to the back there. I just talked to them and I'm I'm I'm hoping. But if if I don't bring it to light to over here, you know, this is
happening is is I I've seen it uh through other things, you know, in the internet. This is happening all did you pull a permit and Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Um county minister, how do you want me to handle it?
I think what we'll do is have um if you could speak with Mr. JP Murphy and then I can report back to the board on what the what the issue is. I'm Yeah, I'm not following at all. We'll piece it together and come back to the board and and let you know what what has happened.
I I just talked to uh Ramlon F. Blanco and uh uh I'm going to try to send him some information and then we'll find we'll look into it and we will get back. I I would like the reinspection. Can we get your phone number? 813
3918249 and because I I'm sorry you know that most most of the time I don't answer my phone because uh they've been calling my house with different numbers and threatening me for payment.
You know this this harassment harassment. So, I I don't I I I don't answer my phone because I I've been I've been harassed. Thank you. We're going to try to help you. Uh and I appreciate your help.
Uh Wanda Kasnoff. Your address, please. Morning. My name is Wanda Chasnoff and I live at 6608 Status Lane in Port Richie, right off of Main Street. I'm here to ask for the board's help.
I was flooded out in the hurricane, but I live at the very front next to 19. Y'all are the city has given a permit to the trailer park which is called um Oh gosh, I went blank. Uh anyway, it's a
trailer park right next to my house. They're allowing 25 trailers to go in there and they done come in there and brought all this dirt and along the easement against my property, they got a ditch. Now, every time it rains, we're flooded. We can't mow our grass.
We can't do nothing. And this is the problem. There's three micabilities that's in it. There's the city, there's the county, and what else, Jack? DOT. It's Newport Richie, the county, and FDOT. FD dot I for 18 years I've lived
here and I can't get no help from nobody. It doesn't drain down Green Key doesn't help us. It only floods our property. It's not about a storm. It's not about a hurricane because it's right off CO 19. If I live down by the park,
yes, you could say hurricanes. Yes, we leave when there's hurricanes, but the rain is what's flooding us out because there's no drainage. If I could ask, have you have you had water in your house? I did in the hurricane. No other time.
Just seeing if she qualified to payment from the disaster to move. We We got a grant years ago, $2.3 million. We're working on a plan with it. Branford, if you could I talked briefly with Brford before. You get with your team and Well, we like to me and Mr. Ken would
like to be involved in that because our houses we can't mow when it rains or nothing and when it rains it just floods. It's not from a hurricane. It's not from a storm. We know to leave in but want to just send rain and it won't
drain nowhere. Come on. I just put $30,000 in my house. I don't have another $30,000 to put in my house. I'm on I'm a senior citizen. I'm on social security. I don't have another $30,000 for FEMA to give him. And we need your
help because we want to live there. We live in the Bronx. We don't live down there where the the Gulf is. And like I said, if a hurricane comes, we are smart enough to leave because we've already saw damage before. This is not what we want to go through. But I want to live.
My house is paid for. I don't owe anybody. I need your help to help drain to help make the other municipalities help come together to get it to drain because it's right off when you go right off the 19. Plus the fact I've heard
through city grape vine that the motel 6 is going to be tore down. I have a meeting tonight at the city um meeting at for city of Newport Richie. Then on the 25th I got a meeting with the uh manager of Newport Richie. Thank you
very much. Please help us get it solved. Come talk to you. What? Uh can Yes. Good morning. Can everyone hear me? Um I'm going to be talking
issue but address 5123 Green Key Road. Right. commities and uh I'm going to be talking about the same issue but uh I'm trying Part: 2
during this process that there's multiple entities uh FDOT, City of Newport, Richie, Pasco County, and private owners manage the Green Key Road area leading to long-stand unresolved issues which might
support arguments for judicial jiu-jitsu. There's obviously a disconnect between the multiple entities on various issues. Frequent flooding on Green Key Road and surrounding properties require intervention. Elevation changes at Pleasantville
Mobile Home Park cause water accumulation. Additionally, drainage north of Green Key US19 shopping center is is obstructed by debris from land clearing, diverting runoff onto the road which lacks a storm water system. A
senior department official responded quickly to the issue, scheduuling a follow-up meeting uh on the July 21st at 8:00 a.m. uh to discuss potential solutions including redirecting water of US9 to storm water drainage system.
During that meeting on the 21st of July, uh the Newport Richie Utility Department announced ongoing development on the Green Key 10ear storm water plan indicates the plans uh plan scope would incorporate and address flooding issues
affecting the west side of US9. The stormwater master plan update for Pasco County appears to include projects targeting the west side of US9. Though through though specific project names for that area are not explicitly
detailed in the provided information. The current drainage system is causing property flooding. Even small rain events leaving properties inundated for days. This situation is described as unattainable and necessitates immediate
action. Residents acknowledge the challenge that storm management faces, but the concern is the current water runoff infrastructure cannot even handle small rain events. Okay. Yeah. Well, thanks.
Thank you. How much more do you have? Uh I just got one more uh paragraph. Yeah, just one more paragraph. Paragraph. Okay. We realize that it will take a collective effort from all stakeholders to find a realistic solution to these
problems in the green key area. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Alan Rose, your address, please for the record. Yes. Good morning. Alan Rose, one221 Hilltop Drive. I've been coming to you
for years about our issues of our coastal issues and today I just want to refresh things. Uh it's what what I'm bringing forward is really strong from the hurricane experiences we've had recently. We need to bring in coastal barrier islands. We need to whether you
want to engage federal, state, we have there's available funding from the feds at 2 billion. The state has approximately 150 million annually designated for our coastal areas. We can address this and what I'm recommending is seven barrier islands. Ankllet Island
from the sand sandbar needs some subca structure re reworked out there so it gathers uh and grows further north. Then from Durny Key taking a a dredge materials dredge spoils from alongside the Kodiak channel. They're hard spoils
and they'll help maintain the structure out there and get the long shore drift back on shore. Then you can take uh the Port Richie Barrier Island north from the Cody River north protecting the uh Salt Spring State Park approximately four miles. All these islands will be
approximately 1.2 mi offshore. They're at a 4ft shelf. Relatively simple to to build and it'll the cost will be brought down if you follow certain things. All the hard hard spoils from years past when they did the side cast dredging, take those and use those for the base of
these islands. and then behind the islands bring in a trench and use that material so you protect our coastal and it's it's already in place with it's called the coastal barrier resource system and it's already in place but it stops at anklo so I would recommend you approach the feds and if they engage
they will pick it up and they'll bring it north our 24 miles and I would recommend the seven another barrier island from leisure beach channel north to Hudson channel and then from Hudson channel north to sea pines and then from sea pines Sunwest and then from Sunwest
to Arapa with inlets for all of your connecting waterways and uh like I said the hard spoils that are alongside already alongside from 60 years ago when they did the side cast dredging use those they are hardb base and they will give you you structurally sound islands
out there and then you could do the rest. You're going to get get a lot uh of benefits from this. The water will you'll get about 50 million gallons a day of purified water from the oysters that we'll use to to fortify the eastern side of the islands. The western side
will create uh new areas for sea turtle nesting and the migratory seabirds we get angrily. So, you're going to you're going to improve our environment and protect our coast. That's what this is all about. Um this will break the surge
like we didn't have like wasn't broken on the last time. If if should it ever happen again, you're going to have protection. That surge will be broken. If you have an eight foot surge, it'll more than likely be two to three foot. So that's just like a a massive tide. It's not going to do what these past
storms have done. And we see this every year. So we can do something to protect all of us. Thank you very much, Alan. Okay. Actually, this isn't stuff he's making up. This is what the Netherlands they've done in the Netherlands. So and and that's just 32 years of waterways management experience talking to you.
Yeah. I just, you know, don't know what it's realist how realistic it is for our Army Corps to approve that. Okay. Next. Ron Orchard. Move to receive and file. I'll take a second. Second. All in favor? I
I. Your address for the record, please. Good morning, Ron Orchard, 6719 Manor Beach Road, Newport Richie. Does anybody know what impaired water basins are? Okay, I'm going to tell you
a water basin or wild shed. Waterhed is a land area draining rainfall into a common water body. An impaired water basin means the water is polluted or degraded. Pollution flows downstream affecting rivers, lakes, and coastal waters.
In the paired water basin, how they're affected. The cause of that agriculture runoff, urban st storm water, industrial discharge, deforestation and erosion. The basic effect is nutrient overload,
sediment buildup, toxic contamination, altered flow and temperature. How does this impact the impact the water bodies it flows into? The water qual quality declines. Ecosystems are damaged and human and economic economic
economic costs do have a breakdown of the percentages of it. But okay, direct effect of the basins. Nutrient overload, excessive excessive nitrogen phosphorus cause algae buildup
and blooms. Sediment buildup smothers the aquatic habitats and blocks sunlight. Toxic contamination harms wildlife and enters the food chain. Altered flow and temperature can ex can cause stress to certain species
and and fish that live in the area. What happens to the receiving waters? In the case of what we're going to be talking about here is the Gulf Coast, okay, the Gulf of Mexico, the Gulf of America, whatever. Water quality declines. Algae starts to grow. Oxygen is depletion and
murky waters. I took it down. I'm sorry. I I saw I I I watched a board once where the guy actually he answered the phone on the up on the stage. It was funny.
And econom eco ecosystem damage and ham and dance destruction. Okay. Okay. The case study involved Pasco County has eight impaired water basins according to DPA and EPA. Okay, five of these
prepared water basins are within the coastal master plan that we were talking about through Allen. Three contained in the plant may require some inland operation possibly involving eminent domain along the wershed from 589 west to the coast. These three are
going to be Bear Creek, Dakota River, and Anklo River. Conclusion is healthy basins are essential to clean water, thriving ecosystems, and strong communities. Protecting them requires better and land management, pollution prevention, and restoration projects. If
we take care of our basins, we take care of every drop of water that passes through them. It's going to help us. We're talking about Barry Islands doing the things. The same thing here. We're all working together. All working together to make it work. So, thank you, Cheryl Orchard.
Thank you very much. Good morning. My name is Cheryl Orchard. I live at 6719 Manor Beach Road, Newport Richie, Florida. Have some papers. Move to receive and file. Second. All in favor? I.
These papers are basically what I'm going to touch base on so you can follow along and see it what I'm speaking about. I'm going to start off with the green key drainage summary background and historical issues. Chronic flooding for
decades, rainy season and high tides cause broken flap gate 95 sewer and roadway design flaws. Man-made blockage. Lack of maintenance. Impact recurrent potholes. Roadway deteriorated from saltwater. 1994 the flap gate reported unre
unrepable. 26 years it took to get that flat fixed. Manor Beach is higher than the than the rest of the streets in there. So everything flows downhill. They get it worse than we do, but we got it pretty bad last time. Rainwater stays
on Largo Sierra Delado all the time from rain. It doesn't recede. So, what I'm here today for is to get some answers or try to work with you to find out what we can do to help the path. This goes all the way to US19.
Uh, that whole area is lowlying, yes, but 26 years of major flooding from rainwater from a broken flat has deteriorated the soil and the roads. 2020, Jacob's engineering contracted plan drawn. 2021,
Representative Amber Mariano and Senator Hooper sought funding. In uh 22, the government approved a $2 million grant postponed. 2023, Pasco's concept plan and D contract 2 million. Federal funding at
risk must not be lost or it needs to be used in the area it was directed for. Delays and community concerns. Original construction project 2023 started date completion date was supposed to be completed by December 24.
I had people from public works come and talk to the people in in in our properties and they told us well we're not going to get it done in time. So we got to move it out to 2527 to start. Now they're telling us it's pushed back
until 2029. That's seven years. Residents advocate in six to nine years multiple delays and conflicting explanations. Everybody's got a different answer for you. Key question, why seven, eight years to repair 4,000 ft of roadway, four streets. We're on
the front lines. It's devastated the area. Pasco County must expedite this project. Protect home and infrastructure. Our roads are like a minefield, dangerous to travel on. used allocated $2 million efficiency before
funding is lost. Green K community urges immediate action. Long delayed project is critical to the quality of life of the residents. It's also crit critical to our wildlife. Our coastal areas have been in need of attention for decades.
Just want to say we need to pro protect our environment. Thank you. Thank you very much, Raquel Thieves. Move to receive and file. Second. All in favor? I I
Hi, good morning, commissioners. My name is Raquel Thieves. I live at 4731 Sanctuary Drive, which is also in the Green Key area. Uh, I don't want to harp on any of the issues we've already discussed, so I'm going to skip some of that. But I do want to say that um,
Robert K. Ree Memorial Park, it's one of the only few public beaches we have. And right now the visitors have to drive through uh blight, flooding, unsafe conditions to get there. I'm not even going to share with you the stories that um I've personally witnessed in uh Boy
Scout Preserve and what happens there. Um meanwhile, new developments are being approved on both sides. Oyster Bayou Cottages and then on the other side soon to be for Sea Forest town homes. Granted, that's all Newport Richie. Um, I've also gone to Newport Richie's
meetings and I've talked to them about um, is there some kind of partnership with Pasco County to make sure we address some of these issues in Green Key. Uh, Pasco County has poured millions uh of dollars into growth and infrastructure on the east side, but on
the west side along the Gulf, we've been neglected. Um, I took that citizens um course not too long ago and I was told by um some of the commissioners that uh this money that's coming to the county
will be going to the west coast to be shoring up the west the west side of the county rather than the east side. Um I mean it's just it could be one of the county's top tourist destinations. I just don't understand it. It's a nice
little beach. families should feel safe coming to the beach and the boardwalk uh and the playground there, but instead it looks abandoned. Drainage is broken, uh crime, homelessness. We all know about the homeless camps in that area. They just go from one area to the next whenever the police get them out of one
area, then they go to another area. So, I'm just asking for three things. First thing, drainage and covert repairs along Green Key Road and the surrounding streets. I know we've talked about that. And also if we can have a plan and a timeline for resurfacing Green Key Road,
including maybe some sidewalks and some lighting to maybe deter uh and just make it a nicer place. And then the last thing, stronger scrutiny on the development and the flood plane and evacuation zones. I mean, this is an evacuation zone A. We should be kind of
concerned about that too with uh what's going on over there. um and to not approve new projects without addressing these flooding impacts on existing neighborhoods. Um so we can have Green Key Road either continue to be a single symbol of neglect or it can become a
showcase for Pasco's GF Coast. I urge you to put the resources and focus here, not just east of the county, so we can protect our home, our visitors, and our tax base. So thank you for your time. Thank you very much, Christie Zimmer.
and your address for the record, please. Good morning. Christy Zimmer, 3615 Pine Cone Court, Land of Lakes. I'd like to talk about the 2050 plan that we're working on. you had great public communicating communications um with
your programs that you put out to let people know what was going to be happening, but it's my understanding that there is no uh citizen vetting of the final put together of the plan. Um this process is nothing like the prior
amendments where the public had real input. I remember when it was first written by Cindy Jolly, it was to only be amended every five years. However, there would be an occasional amendment when a developer proposed a project that
would include infrastructure, schools, libraries, and firehouses, and even a jail on their dime. Now, today you have four comp plan amendments. You have a substantial modification, three
reszonings, and this happens at every meeting. What happened to the sacred ground of having a comp plan if you're going to amend it at every single meeting? Why even bother having a 5-year review? Unless it's to make it even better for the developers.
Don't you think it would be fair to allow the citizens a proper review and vetting of this 25 comp plan? Especially since we are not abiding by Florida statute 125.6.6 that says for a public hearing, you need
to have a 5:00 meeting. And that is what the statute says. There's more to it than that. and your um the one that is a major a substantial modification that one definitely
complies with the criteria of that law. Um maybe if you had meetings where the people could actually be able to attend and they could feel like they're being heard and that they're being given true transparency and accountability. You
might build a little bit of trust back into the community. Just a thought. Please allow the the citizens to have a vetting process on this plan. Thank you. Next, we have one person signed up online, but
that's the last that are signed up in the room. Okay, before we go online, is there anyone else here who wishes to speak to the county commission? Come on up. Name and address, please. You can both come up. Just line up. One behind the other.
Hi, my name is Lori Ricker. Um, my address is 9006 Bearcat Road, Newport Richie. I'm talking about the burning that's going on with the Newport Corners. Um, about a year and a half
ago, we had the media involved and they decided to mulch. Um, but now again, they're doing it and they're burning and it's disrupting our lives. Um my back our out the whole community our
backyards are full of soot, sand, burning debris, not to mention the smoke for people that have asthma, COPD and other health issues. Um this is getting very serious and I went to the site and
they told me that it's too expensive to mulch. So they said that they have to burn. they don't have to burn. Um, we'd appreciate it if they can start mulching. I understand it's expensive, but at it's at our expense, our health
expense that that's that we're suffering. It's not fair to us. So, I hope you take that into Did you go just recently? I'm sorry. Did you go there just recently? I'm just wondering if um about three weeks ago. And then I came here and I spoke to the office here
and I did get a response and uh they did mention to come to the meeting and to bring it up. So I'm and actually yesterday they were burning. My husband was doing some work outside and the garage was open for a little while and I
do have COPD and asthma and my house was completely engulfed in smoke. I have six different air purifiers going. I put them on high. It just doesn't help. Everything smells like And I even have I
have um I have um sleep apnnea. So I have a the machine with the hose. The hose smelled like smoke last night. So I couldn't use it. So it's something I hope that you will consider. Thank you. Thank you.
Hello, my name is Karen Manard. My address is 17147 Sweetwater Road in Dade City. And I'm here today to read a resolution of the Dade City Garden Club of Dade City, Florida. The title of it is preserving and protecting the
historic Grand Oak number seven located on the properties surrounding the historic Pasco County Courthouse in Dade City, Florida. Whereas the Grand Oak number seven located on the grounds of the historic Pasco County Courthouse, Dade City,
Florida, on the northeast corner of the property has been identified to be removed by the Pasco County Board of Commissioners. And whereas the tree appears to be healthy and has been certified to be healthy through an ISA certified
arborist report. And whereas mature oak trees provide critical environmental services including shade, habitat for native wildlife, storm water management, carbon sequestriation,
and the preservation of soil erosion. And whereas this tree is estimated to be between 200 and 250 years old and represents one of the oldest and most significant natural landmarks in Dade
City. And whereas the tree has been a witness to the history and development of the community, serving as a gathering place for generations of residents and holding cultural, historic, and
sentimental value. And whereas the community has expressed strong support for measures ensuring the continued protection of this irreplaceable natural and cultural resource. And
whereas the city of Dade City has held the distinction of a Tree City USA for 18 years, a program that is supported jointly with the Dade City Garden Club, which encourages care for the trees. And
whereas the preservation of mature trees is consistent with Dade City's environmental stewardship goals, climate action plans, and heritage conservation policies as a Tree City USA.
And whereas the county has indicated a preference for sable palm trees which do not provide shade needed in this location and are susceptible to the newest disease that affects that affect palms in Florida called lethal bronzing
disease and their new landscape plan. Now therefore, be it resolved that the Dade City Garden Club board of directors and on behalf of the entire Garden Club membership calls upon the Pasco County Commissioners to vote no to removing the
Grand Oak tree number seven from the courthouse grounds and encourages the city of Dade City to register the tree as protected heritage tree. recommends that the Sable not be included in the county's new landscape
plan for the courthouse. This is a resolution that was passed and adopted by the board of directors of the Dade City Garden Club on the 18th of August, 2005 or 25. Thank you very much. Um, Mr. Kabal, do you want to address that or do you want to pass on that?
I I can. Um, okay. Just see right here. Why don't you see if there's any more public comment? He's going to look up uh what I think he sent out yesterday. Oh, you got it. Yeah, I do. Unless you wanted to take more public. Is there anyone else here that wants to
speak to the tree cuz we have a statement I think. Anyone else want to speak to us about anything? And we do have one person online. Yes. Do we want to go go with that? Yeah. Let me go to the person online and see if they want to talk about the tree.
No, it's another matter. Diana Zenuk. Yes. Can you hear me? Oh, yeah. Your address. Okay, good. Because I'm having a little trouble with you, so I apologize. Um, I'm Diana Zenchuk. I live at 10536 Mil
River Drive in Newport Richie. I'm calling about item 56 which is proposed housing on the in the area of Ridge Road and Moon Lake Road in Newport Richie. That's the I have two Yes.
I have two quick questions for you and then a comment. Two quick questions are is this considered multi-ousing or multif family housing or single family and has an architectural study been done because a lot of this is wetland.
Madam Chairman, this is general public comment. The public hearing for that item is this afternoon after 1:30. Um, and board generally doesn't answer questions even in public comment. Okay. Okay. Then my my comment has to do
with ridge with uh Dupulus Road, which is right near Ridge Road. It feeds into it's fed into by Moon Lake Road from people driving on the um the the extension to the Sun Coast Parkway.
People increased traffic coming from Starky. Increased traffic from I believe PLA is being fed in there now. We have probably doubled our traffic load in the last year. We have trucks coming through here. We have this is all residential
until you get to Ridge Road. There is absolutely no retail along this road at all. We have two particular housing developments that are near um Starky and there's a blinking light there. It's been there forever. Nobody pays attention to it. They drive right
through it. People running red lights, people running red lights at the school crossing, people passing people um we have road rage incidents and the the sheriff can't do much about it. they can come out there and sit, but because the
road isn't wide enough, and I understand you're going to widen it, but at this point, it's not wide enough and they won't stop anybody because it increases the congestion in the area. We've talked to David Engel, we've talked to Lisa Joerger, and we've also talked to
traffic plus uh the sheriff, and we just need somebody to pay attention to this because it's getting serious and dangerous. Okay, thank you. And that's it. Okay. Thank you pretty much. And that hearing is this afternoon, not not this morning.
Okay. All right. So, um Mike, you want to just put that statement out there for the public and then we'll move. Certainly. Yes. And so, um commissioners, you're aware uh the board had directed us to uh employ a master arborist. And so, that master arborist
uh performed his work um this month. Um and uh as a result of that detailed inspection of the live oak uh at the historic date city courthouse, uh his report provided a comprehensive look at the treere's condition and also included options for uh removal or remediation
and maintenance. Based on the arborist's report and with the full support of this board, Pasco County will begin implementing a new maintenance plan to protect both the tree and surrounding property and we will re-evaluate the treere's condition bianually to ensure everyone's safety. Again, Pasco County
appreciates the community's patience as we move through the process of gaining a deeper understanding of the trees condition. Okay, so there you go. Thank you very much. And now we're going to move on to resolutions. We are on to RS1.
Resolution number 25312, a resolution by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, recognizing the Pasco County Building Construction Services Department for achieving accreditation from the International Accreditation Service.
Whereas the Pasco County Building Construction Services Department has demonstrated a commitment to excellence in service delivery, quality management, and customer satisfaction. And whereas the international accreditation service is a nationally recognized accreditation
body and subsidiary of the international code council which provides accreditation based on rigorous criteria including the international building code and related industry standards. And whereas the building construction services department has successfully met
the IAS accreditation criteria which covers areas such as service goals, emergency response plans, quality management systems, management reviews, documents and records, complaints and appeals, personnel permitting, budget
plan reviews and inspections. And whereas the accreditation process has helped the Pasco County Building Construction Services Department identify and implement opportunities for improvement, drive high performance, encourage professional growth, and raise
awareness of building codes and safe building practices. And whereas the Pasco County Building Construction Services Department is the 13th department accredited nationally, 10th in Florida and the only accredited
department in Florida serving a population greater than 500,000 population. And whereas the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners recognizes the significant efforts and dedication of the Pasco County Building Construction Services Department in
achieving this prestigious accreditation. Now therefore, be it resolved by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, that said board hereby commends the Pasco County Building Construction Services Department for its
outstanding achievement in obtaining IAS accreditation and resolved in regular session with the quorum president voting this 19th day of August, 2025. Move approval. Second. All in favor? I. Wow. Commissioner Oakley.
Yes, sir. I tell you what, ever since I've been in office now, I'm in my ninth year and I've worked very close with building construction services for all this time to make it better and better to provide
the right service for our citizens. And I commend you on receiving this achievement and thank you each and every one of you for what you do to make this happen. But this is only the start. You've gotten this far. You got to continue.
You give the best service you can for our citizens because they deserve it. And I know if you're out there trying to get a permit or do some work, you want the same kind of service. So, we got to listen to our customers and do the best
we can to provide the very very best. And y'all have been doing that. It's changed, but it's taken about eight years to get here. So, but the fact of it is it couldn't happen without each and every one of you putting your efforts in to do the very best for our
citizens. And I thank you for that. Commission, who's the spokesman? JP. Yeah. Well, well, I think Commission, you want to speak? Yeah. Oh, JP, which one of y'all set for the exam? What's that? Which one of y'all set for set for the exam? Everybody's sitting behind me or
standing behind me. In fact, Anthony couldn't be here today because he's out in Colorado sitting for an exam. Fantastic. You know, as uh there's probably some some Navy vets in the room. I mean, you guys have really rogered up over the last over the last
year and uh really proved and and showed the community what service is all about. Selfless service. you know, you all went out into the our our world and in in good and bad times and and and helped with compliance and getting folks back
in their homes, businesses back open, and then the businesses that weren't impact impacted, just regular everyday commerce that's coming here to Pasco County and the service that you all uh provide to to those folks who are choosing to make an investment in our county where they could have chose to make their investment anywhere else, but
they chose here. and one of the first faces they see when they want to put a project in is is your group. So, thank you for all the hard work and dedication and the service you provide to all of our stakeholders in this county and uh very proud of everyone here and congratulations on your accomplishment.
Commissioner Mariano, thank you. I want to say uh Commissioner Oakley, I've been here for 21 years and watching the evolution has been phenomenal and especially the past few years what you guys have accomplished. The I think one of the one of the key things that really I think meant a lot to the public and I didn't really
understand the significance of it as it was happening but I was really appreciative of it was when you went to Shady Hills to see how you could work in a remote location. Little did we know the storms coming in afterward would prove that to be a tremendous exercise where you had people coming in stuck in the permitting, how to get through it
and could see the whole seam and that the whole team get to work together I think for the first time in a cohesive unit too to kind of see what everybody else does and how it all plays in together how it worked together and what you've done with that has been phenomenal. Uh during the storm with SE just at Sea Wrench I didn't get down to
Gulf Harbors because I had enough going on as we all know. Uh but what you did there by coming out on site and going with people and even so on and JP and I had some HUD customers out there one time we were kind of working out there and and just watched what was going on listen to the people uh and found a way
to get things done and that's what you guys have been doing is getting things done. Um my assist my aid Sonia for the longest time that whiteboard was full all the time. It's not so full anymore. I mean what you guys do is just tremendous and all we try to do is like
try to guide them, help them. Uh Sonia's learned how to kind of get them through the FEMA process, which has been another big struggle that you guys have mastered. Um so with all that dedication, I will tell you when I had my interview, the accreditation with with JP, it was very easy for me to promote what a phenomenal job you guys
have done. You're using technology to help our people. Um so I just want to say phenomenal job and keep up the great work. Thank you. Congratulations. So, as a person who was helped greatly by many of you guys in my efforts to rebuild my flooded home, I still haven't
been able to close that permit out, but I'm getting very close. I think one more week and I'll be all done. Um, I just appreciate what you do and you know, the the Gulf Harbors community, the way you guys came and helped everybody there. I saw it firsthand repeatedly and
repeatedly um how patient you all were, how helpful and um I agree uh years ago there was a different feeling in our department and now it's just a plus. So I'm just really proud of all of you. I
know the hard work that uh has gone on gone into this and um we're just Hey, I had no idea that the the gravity of this award. So, I'm really glad we're doing it today. And JP, you have the floor. Thank you. Um I will spare you the page
of comments as the board has spoken. Um it is important however to um yeah it is important uh however to not only thank the team behind us but just I want to briefly in three bullet points talk about why this is important to the community. One you have an independent
analysis that we are adhering to the Florida building codes and other life relevant life safety codes. Two that we have a dedicated commitment to quality. Uh and that means that we are looking and fixing our own errors and and and finding ways every day to do process
improvements and improvements for our customers. Um and then ultimately having a review of how we do code enforcement, Florida building code enforcement overall adhering to the standards set by the ICC, the International Code Council, because what that really means is for
the insurance underwriters of the world who look at Pasco County's risk profile, that should mean lower insurance premiums for our residents. So those sort of kind of three huge uh important points I think when it comes to why accreditation was important. It's pushing ourselves and it's saving money for our our customers. And again as
regulators we have a choice in how we want to do business with our customers. So we put customer success first. Life safety always but customer success first. Now I do have to take one second. Um I want to say specific thanks to a couple people. Um where's Susan at?
Susan store over here to my right. This would not have been possible without her consistent vision and insight and keeping us accountable to the schedule. Um Susan was there the whole time. Uh her and the IAS team with Marie Marie Fishburn, Mike Glazebrook, Glenn
Wardell, um Jamal Azam, Jonathan White, all of our deputy building officials. I think Justin Kerr is standing over here. Um and of course Anthony whose hand is probably still cramped from all of the policy memos he had to sign in order to get this done. But this team did an amazing amount of work, even amidst the
frenzy of uh hurricane recovery, keeping focus on making sure that we're always improving even when we're busy kind of doing the work. But Susan, you you and Marie deserve special special thanks to getting this across the finish line. And I'm just so proud to h be one more
department helping Pasco become premier. And I know you're going to have a couple more departments be accredited real soon. So, thank you for your support. Thank you to Mike Carbala and thank you to to David Allen as well. Well, I we'll let Mike say a few words. No, I think all all very very well said
and JP, thank you for your leadership uh with BCS. I I have seen uh the transformation since I've been in this seat certainly uh over the years similar to what what what Jack has said. So, I I thank you for for your dedication to this and and to the team. I just thank you for your dedication to customer
service because you really do put customers first and I' I've witnessed that firsthand. Uh you're you're you're innovative, you're collaborative, and you guys always work to solutions. And so I just thank you for that. This accreditation is simply is just a a formal notice of what we've already
known. Uh but uh I'm I'm so happy that this is uh that this mark has been made. And Madam Chair, yes. Could I just add one more thing? Uh, and JP, I I really appreciate all the conversation we had about sometimes is it a Florida building code? Is it a Pasco code? What are we dealing with? How do we get it through? Can something
be changed? So, just for the team, anytime that you see something that you think we can make an improvement on that we can control locally, uh, please always feed feed that to JP, let us know because we're we want to make this better. And sometimes there's a thing that was written years ago that made
sense then but doesn't make sense now and just for that oneoff thing we need to look at. So those type of improvements we can go and uh madam chair I was appointed to the um vice chair for technology for Florida Association of counties this year. The meeting's coming up. I've actually invited David Engel and Pat Patrick
Dutter. If any of your folks has got a strong interest with the AI part of doing technology, I invite you to come up here and kind of listen and see some experts that are going to be there from around the state, never mind the nation that'll be there to put a good presentation on. But again, thank you all. Okay. Um
I'm out front. Yes. We'll stay right here because there's so many of you. Congratulations, guys. Look at their little IAS patches on their shirt. I shouldn't say little, I should say big. And then if everybody could find a
window, too. Come back. There's some short people in the back row. Yeah. If you two could come up front like right over here. She's hiding back there for some reason. There you go. All right, everybody have
a window. Perfect. And look at me. You tell me when you're good. I'm good. Okay. Thank you. I think I think I can close my permit Friday. So
Oh. Oh, okay. I'll call you. Okay. We have RS2 now, which is our baseball team. Resolution number 25313. A resolution by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida.
Congratul Congratulating the PHSC Bobcats baseball team on winning the NJCAA Division 2 Baseball World Series Championship. Whereas the Pasco Hernando State College Bobcats baseball team won
the 2025 NJCAA Division 2 Baseball World Series Champion Championship game in Enid, Oklahoma on Saturday, May 31st. And whereas the PHSC Bobcats baseball team
played against the number two seed Pearl River in the championship title game, finishing the game 11-7 after securing two grand slams in the bottom of the seventh inning. Wow. And whereas the first grand slam was completed by Grant
Jordan who tied the game 7-7. And then with two outs, Brandon Dery launched another grand slam to give the Bobcats a four-run lead. And whereas the PHSC Bobcats may have taken control of the game in the seventh inning, but Michael
Seesi held the mound throughout the game, tallying eight strikeouts in 6.2 2 innings before Holden Wade uh closed out the game throwing 2.1 scoreless innings without allowing a hit or walk. And
whereas after the game, Brandon Dery was named the tournament's MVP and outstanding offensive player, while PHSC's athletic director and head coach Lyndon Coleman received the coach of the tournament award. And whereas NJCAA
announced four PHSC players with honors including Grant Jordan, Vano Cruz, Bruce Habuda, uh, and Gavin, uh, Zessenbreaker, and whereas with an impressive 4810
record, the PHSC Bobcats won their fourth straight Sunlakes Conference title, the Florida College System Athletic Association championship, and the NJC CAA South Regional title on the road to
the NJCAA Division 2 Baseball World Series. And whereas not only are their performances on the field something to be proud of, but their achievements off the field are as well. The PHSC Bobcats baseball team maintained a collective
GPA of 3.41 and 19 of 28 student athletes will graduate from PHSC this year. Now therefore, be it resolved by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, the said board hereby
congratulates the PHSC Bobcats baseball team on winning the NJCAA Division 2 Baseball World Series Championship. Done and resolved in regular session with the quorum. President voting this 19th day of August, 2025.
Move approval. Second. All in favor? I I Oh my gosh, that's that's We're just so proud of you. Um this well this is my resolution but I'll start with Commissioner Oakley and I'll finish to say congratulations to the team
but I I don't know what to say. It's best team I've ever seen win all these games 48 and only lose 10. I know your heart was really sad at those time with those 10, but man, you've won a lot of games and you won a
lot of big games and you came together when it was the right time to come together to be champions. So, I thank you for all you do and your efforts and I hope in your future hopefully some of you will end up will be watching you on TV someday. So, if that could happen,
I'd love to see you. So, uh but congratulations for your achievements. You've done a lot. So, Commissioner Weight, thank you. Well, Dr. Hall, you picked a great time to step in and lead this crew. Um, no, fellas, you know, we we
started the community started sensing the momentum that was building. You know, the you see the reports coming out, Bobcats are winning, Bobcats are winning, and um you could just sense that you guys are going to be an unstoppable force this year. and to do
that while holding a over 3.0 GPA. Be proud of yourselves for, you know, cumulative between all of you. You know that it be proud of yourselves that you took your academics just as seriously as as playing ball. And uh you never know where your future's going to lead. So, I'm proud of you all for for staying in
it and and keeping your head in the books while being champs at the same time. So, keep that fiery spirit about you. We're proud of you. He represented our county, Hernando and Pasco County, extremely well. And uh that trophy looks good on you. I keep forgetting we have to share it
with Hernando. Commissioner Mariano, I want to say congratulations. One of my uh good friends from my Rotary Club, Tim Mlan, was out doing the photography for you guys. So, he was telling me about the big trip going on, the games that were going on, and then uh when I could see his Facebook post, I think I was the
first commissioner post with congratulating with the uh with a great performance to have that championship game. That must have been something else down in the first Grand Slam, then the next grand slam, and just hanging on and uh the closer uh what what a phenomenal
way to win every step of the way. Um I think it's something you guys are going to cherish forever and and you should. What a tremendous accomplishment and I'm glad you guys are always always paying attention. I'm glad we brought brought out the GPA because it's important. Life lessons in sports are phenomenal, but what you do after that is even more
important. So, uh, good luck to all of you and I hope you have have a great careers all the way through. Right. So, um, we've been anxiously awaiting giving you um this this honor here this morning and and I do want to uh give a
shout out to President Hall. welcome back to Pasco County, Hudson High grad and I think a PHSSE grad as well. So, um uh you're making your county and Hernando County, we'll give it to them too, a very very proud. Um I was a
baseball wife for many years. My first husband played baseball at Florida State and then um went on and played for the Orioles Cubs Tigers. So for those of you who are continuing on, I I I know that the excitement and the challenges that you you may be facing, but um this is
certainly going to be an experience that you will never forget. And um we won't either. Last last board meeting, we had the U16 soccer team from Pasco County in and they also just won a national championship. So it was the first one in
Florida at in their age. So, we're really proud of the athletic accomplishments that are happening in this area. Proud of you guys. I agree. Um, athletics is important, but keep up those GPA. And um, you're at a great school and represent your school and
your county and your country. Well, and congratulations again. So, we're going to I'm going to come down here. Oh, do you want to say something? Yeah, please address it. Somebody should. Yeah. And the coach, too. Congratulations, coach. Madam Chair, thank you and commissioners. It's an honor to be here with you and as mentioned, you know,
being here back in Pasco County is a not just a blessing, but it's an honor to come back and be able to serve an institution that actually played a significant role in my own life. You know, being a product of Pasco County, you know, going to Moon Lake Elementary, Hudson Middle, Hudson High, coming to Pasco Hernando Community College at the time when we were the Concistadors and
then going to USF. But, uh, again, it's a great honor to be here and to be before you and look forward to meeting many of you and engaging and, uh, again getting reaclimated back to our community. But, you know, I have to say this. Well, we have an incredible team and players and you heard about the accomplishments and things through the resolution that would not be possible if
it was not for the incredible leadership of their coach. I've gotten to know him over the last eight weeks here and see his commitment and his passion to again not just the sport but to the students. You know, yesterday we did our welcome back for all of our student athletes and coach Coleman is not only our head baseball coach, he also serves as our
athletic director. So again, the same passion you see for his, you know, his work on the field with this this group extends across all of our sports programs. And we want to invite the entire community to come out and support your Bobcats. Come out and watch and participate and get to know, you know, the great work that's taking place because again, while it is about the
athletics here today, it is about their accomplishments in the classroom and the things that they're going to do when they graduate to come back and contribute to our own community and be a part of our workforce and continue to accomplish their goals and dreams in life. So we're we're we're excited to be a part of that. But madam chair, if possible, can I ask Coach Coleman to
share a little bit about the journey? Absolutely. Thank you. I'll turn it over to Coach Coleman. Thank you for your time. Um, so I always kind of open up every speech that I give is if you if you have bad players, you're a bad coach. If you have average players, you're an average coach. You have great players, you're a great
coach. And I was very fortunate to have great players this last year. Um, but you know, it kind of all started uh and the other thing too, Dr. Hall, please um don't hold me to the standard every single year because this was a special group. So, you expect this to be multiple years in a row. I'm going to be
shortlived as the as the baseball coach. Um cuz what what they truly did was outstanding. Um and it goes all the way back to the fall in in October when those two hurricanes hit and multiple people are talking about it. We we were out on the field for about 3 weeks. Um,
and we were still kind of engaged in school and stuff like that, but what we ended up doing was we ended up um, going down in the Newport Richie or the Port Richie area and helping some people clean up their homes and their surrounding areas. And we volunteered 250 manh hours in that area to help
clean up. Um, and it was amazing because I didn't make it mandatory because really at the end of the day it wasn't something that we could make mandatory, but um, every single player uh, pitched in. Um, everybody gave eight hours. Um, and it was I had nobody complain. Everybody put their heads down and and
and went after it. And that's when you kind of start to see the uh something build and the selflessness of of of the team that you have. Um, and then we roll into the spring. Uh, 19 graduates. Um, 12 going on to division ones. We have 15 moving on to four-year schools. All
those are records within the school. Um, with our within our baseball program, the 3.4 GPA is the highest GPA we've ever had. And then to boot, you you add in the the the national championship, which it makes things special. And in that seventh inning, if you add in there
as well, um what's so special about that? We hit two grand slams in that in that seventh inning. So to give you perspective, there's each team plays 162 games in Major League Baseball. Since 1903 in professional baseball, that's only happened seven times. And we did
that in the in the national championship game at the World Series, the comeback down by down by four. So, I've never heard of that. I've never Yeah. So, the one thing I'd like to say to you guys is is uh thank you for the support. Um we really depend heavily within athletics here at Pascana State
College on on local uh high school graduates for athletics. Um, and the support that you guys give in the community for the youth sports, the youth little leagues, uh, the youth parks and recreational centers and developing and giving the opportunities to people in our community to to to play
sport, continue to grow, not only academically, but through there is is a foundation for what helps us be successful at the at the community college as well and the state college level. So, I thank you for all that and thank you for honoring us with this resolution.
Thank you very much. I think Adam Thomas should come up here too. Our sports coast leader. Come on. Oh my goodness. If you could Yeah. Quite a few. You're pretty tall. And
then can I get a couple of you to go on this side? Just like one or two. No, one or two of the pitch was the pitch on the 87 slider and the kid holding a half head start.
Perfect. Congratulations. All right. All right. Ready. Perfect. Get out there and watch you guys. Eric, I have a 12:15 call today on that subject we've been discussing.
Uh, by the way, so wish us luck. All right. Um, we are now on to the consent agenda. And we have a poll sheet which I have here. Yeah, I got mine, I think.
Okay. Uh, we have C6 withdrawn, C14 withdrawn, C-22 pull and discuss, C-24 by Weightman pull and discuss. Let me guess what these are. Oh yes, C28
pull and revise and C31 by Weightman pull and discuss. Is there anything else that we would like to see removed? Madam Chair, P38. Uh, C38. C38. Yes. Thanks. Is that a I guess discuss? Okay, Mr.
All right. Um, seeing no others, I will take a motion for the So move. Second. All in favor? I. Okay. So, first one up, C-22. C C22. We've had this conversation a number a
number of different times. Um, it's a sale of surplus land for a dollar amount that I'm not satisfied with. selling surplus land for for $10. Um even if it's to a not forprofit calls, I just
I'm opposed to it. The county taxpayer has over $8,000 invested in this site. Um the appraised value is a lot higher than that. And um just based on the on the policy and and philosophically, I think the taxpayer needs to be made whole and we should have sold this
property for a minimum of the $8,000 that the taxpayer has invested uh in this in this particular property. So, M and I concur 100%. Well, I'm going to disagree because I
think it's probably been sitting there for a while and that um it would be better for us to get a house built on there and get the revenue from the taxes on a house sitting sitting here and it won't be a trailer. It'll be a home and
someone will be on their way to building individual wealth or or family wealth. Commissioner. Okay. Chairman, I I fully agree with you that um this deduction or this price is actually going to allow people to get in this home at a lesser
rate that can't afford homes. That's who get these homes and helps them helps the citizen and then we'll start bringing in taxes like you say that I think is very good for our community. So um that will require a vote and if
it's 22 what is the resolution on that? It would have to come back to a full back board. We have a well well if it fails we'll bring it back. However the board wants to handle
it. I can withdraw them now. Just I just Madam Chair, it's just it's just an interesting conversation because we discuss how the county loses money on residential housing stock all the time. We need higher utility rates. We need higher this. We need higher that because residential is a lost leader apparent to
the county budget as far as what this, you know, the county leadership says. So to sell it for $10 is just compounding a problem. That's why I I think a fair tradeoff for when we sell these properties a tremendous discount to these not forprofits, which are
businesses that have millionoll plus fundraisers every year and they brag about it on social media and they're raising funds from all over the place that they can pay the minimum investment that this county taxpayer has on this property. In this case, it's 8,000, a
little over 8,000. And the other property that's on here is a little over 5,600 bucks. I think that's that's a fair tradeoff. The lost revenue to the county, that's monopoly money. It doesn't really count until we get it. And so I'm not going to back off of this. Every time I see one of these, I'm
going to pull it. I'm going to bring it up for spirited discussion. And hopefully one day we'll we'll get this policy changed. So in this East Pasco, uh there's there's in Port Richie. There's two one east and one on the west.
Oh, there's two of them. Yes, sir. If this one's in Port Richie, the other ones, it's ours. If it's in the city of Port Richie, yes. Well, that's interesting. I hadn't seen that one. City of Port Richie with the way the process works has the first right of refusal if they want to accept it or
not, but that is that was not accepted. Okay. All right. Um, so we'll have to bring these two back then, I guess, Madam Chair. Yes. So, I' I'd suggest we talk about the next one, too. But this one here, I would love to see us approach the
nonprofit and see if that $8,000 would be acceptable to them. And maybe if it doesn't make a difference because I don't think it's going to kill any sale anywhere, anytime that I think it's worth worth it for the taxpayers to even ask if they'll pay what we owe not what we invested. Yep. I've taken that as a note.
Okay. So, then we'll move on to C28. I won't I won't belver the point for u C24. Well, it's the same thing, right? Well, for C-24. So, are we are we taking a vote on this chair? Are we looking to
Well, it's the board's call, but I mean I guess I would say that we see where that's going to go. So, I I was I mean I withdraw it and I can bring it back when we have a full board for consideration. Yeah. Let's have a conversation quick. C24. Oh, well, C C24, same same issue.
Sons property for for $10. County taxpayer has over $5,600 invested into this site. And the appraised value uh for C24 of this land uh is $24,162.
The appraised value for C22 is uh $33,539. Uh so, put that on the record. I know it has it says what we've lost on there. Technically, the county hasn't lost anything because it hasn't provided any services to the site and I won't belabor
those other points. So, so, so here's here's my little problem with with all this is that we already had these discussions and we voted on a policy and we are have moved forward on a policy that we voted. Now, so now two of you might have been on the losing
side of that policy decision, but to do this every time this comes up and try and change the policy decision, I don't think is I mean, obviously, it's your legal right, but of course, good government. I mean, this is great government. I disagree with you. We I
disagree with the policy. I'm going to pull it. I'm going to bring it to the public's attention and vote no. Okay. I think that's fair, Madam Chair. Yeah. And we've got an item coming up this afternoon that was something that was a 4 to1 vote I was on the other side of and it's coming back because new conversations come up about what the
merits are. And again, if we can save our taxpayers money by getting value instead of just giving it away to a a nonprofit, I think we should try to recoup whatever we can. Okay. So, we'll bring those back. Thank you, chair. All right. C28.
Good morning. and Carrie Roberts, purchasing director for the county. This is a poll and revise to change the title from exempt purchase of ACE Opportunities, Inc. for the residential trans transitional housing program to the drug court treatment program. It's just a a changing of the department's
name. Move approval. Not to change. Second. All in favor? I I I. Uh C31, Commissioner Waitman. Thank you. A little less tension around this. This is I just want to highlight this on the work of the MSTU uh that was that was voted on last year and it's
showing the MSTU and the and the road paving assessment dollars that um uh that the uh the county has assessed the taxpayers uh going to work. So, whenever we see the MSTU money at work, just like the penny, uh I think it's important that we we highlight those efforts and
that the county and Jason his team aren't wasting any time spending that money and getting our getting our roads uh back in good shape, which is the expectation of our customers. So, thank you guys for that. Um on that, I do have a question. Um when will you post the roads for the
next fiscal year? I'm wondering where Green Key is on that. I just But I do have that question. Good morning. Um, good morning members of the board. I'm Jason ML, public works director. Um, thank you, commissioner. I appreciate the pulling that and acknowledging that this this project um is in design for
some road related drainage and some improvements to the road and we we will be using MSTU dollars to um improve that community. Um, I just want to give you a quick fact if I could. Uh, you know, we set out to do about 120 lane miles for fiscal year 25. We're at 132 lane miles
as of right now. Um, we spent our money. So, very successful program this year. Thank you very much for supporting us um and and giving us a chance to get out there and execute and improve the community. So, it's been it's been a very successful program this year. Um, our published plan is on the website
right now. Uh, the Green Key Road that you heard about earlier today, um, that is a project that we have in for storm water um, capital as well. So, what we need to do out there is improve that area, improve that road's drainage before we can pave it. So, that's not
going to be on our list yet on the MSTU. We have to um we have to pursue the capital uh part of that project first, which would improve the storm water drainage along that road. Uh is is there an issue with a flapper? Is am I saying it right? Yeah, there's two different there's two
different projects. Um really good news on on Sorry, Commissioner. Oh, go ahead. Uh there's two different projects. One is the Green Key Estates neighborhood, which we are really close to going out to bid. We're just waiting on some some permitting, but not just normal stuff. No, no big deal. Um that
we're hoping to go into construction next year. So, that'll that'll help the drainage and Green Key neighborhood. Um the Green Key Road project is a little bit further along. We got to we got to wait a few more years before we can get that project going.
you know, when we did this u new paving assessment projects that we did with the MSTU, we chose a lesser number than probably we should have because we ran out of money before the end of the year and
I don't know if we tweak it or not, but I'm I'm going to tell you this is one of the best projects we've ever put forward to the citizens. Yep. I've had people that are always telling me that we don't do anything right and everything's wrong to actually tell me that's one of the best projects
we've ever put through to the citizens and they certainly appreciate us doing that. That's great to hear because yeah, I'm telling you I'm talking about people that are know on everything we do to coming out and say that's one of the best things we've done
and the way the department is carrying that on has been very good and uh very proactive in doing it. So the team's eager to execute more so they're they're ready to go. Commissioner Mariana, thank you M. Yeah, Jason, you did a phenomenal job executing. Um I would
have supported more funding this year. Hopefully next year we'll kind of look at a little bit closer and maybe we'll make the move next year, but I thought this would have been a good year to do it. Um I was disappointed it didn't, but anyway, what you did is phenomenal. One thing I'd like to talk to the board about with so the the estates project is
one that's going on. There's a flapper valve that was replaced once. Helps the water flow back in, but stop it from coming in. Uh let it flow back out. And those are tough to work with. they they just continually especially with all the growth uh in that in the area that's uh
sea lake growth that goes on gone around a plug-in. So that that is a tough thing. But I would like you to and I brought this up before um is there's a big storm water program that could happen on the Green Key Road that restricts water flow up and back that
could be eligible from federal funding is importantly you've got the community development block grant disaster recovery money. That project I think would qualify and I think it should get done under that funding and that's funding you can apply for now. I don't know if you've applied for it for for
this coming thing. I mean, I I would like to see it applied for and and put in the list of items to do. You you've got all the you've got all the numbers on it, you get everything for it, and it would be a good economic benefit. It would benefit the city as well as the county, and it would take a big uh
negative area for a very poor area, which 70 70% of the money has to be spent. That's was one of the poorest neighborhoods you're going to find. It would help that area quite a bit. So, I think I would like to see you bring it forward and then put it put on the list. Understood.
Okay. Um, let's take our vote. Approval for uh C31. Second. All in favor? I. All right. And then we have uh C38. C38. Correct. Yeah. Jason, so I I got to it's a it's a big report
that we're looking here with the stormwater master plan. Uh there's one item that I didn't see on here and I called you on it and I know I didn't expect an answer right away, but I don't see anything on here as far as that closed basin by Jasmine Lakes and L Road that I want to take a look at. Maybe well no I was just going to suggest
commissioner sounds like you you may have an older version of the agenda if that's the storm water master plan item you're referring to. Uh we have I've made that a regular item so we'll discuss that fully in front of the board. Okay. C38 on the official agenda is actually a multi-use path item for I think LAP.
It is it is the old agenda from before. Okay. Yes sir. Yes sir. So we're going to discuss the we'll discuss that but I I'll need the board to take a motion to uh uh formalize the lap agreement. Then move approval. Second. All in favor? I I Okay, we are done with the consent
agenda and we will move on to R We have R51. Is that the first one? R50. It is storm water management. Yes.
All right. I'm back. For the record, Jason Mikl, uh, public works director. Uh, you know, I just want to start off. Uh, we I want to make this quick. I don't want to take up too too much of your time this morning. Um, but I just I again, I want to thank the board for the support. Um, we all went through last
year's storm event together. Um, you know, many of the many of the the folks in this room that were here to speak, um, you know, went through went through some really difficult times. Many of our many of our community, um, residents did as well, our own staff, right? Um, and
this is very timely coming to you now. Our stormwater master plan, uh, we've been working on this for about 18 months. The one silver lining in it is we were of the storm season is we were we were able to capture some of the um you know recent storm events and be able to kind of incorporate that the best we
can into our stormwater master plan. Um we have uh Mark Ellard. He's our um he's a principal at Geocentech. He led our our effort um this this for this for this master plan. Um I want to really thank him and his staff along with our
team that really pulled this together. One of the charges I had early on um after conversations with with Mike and with Brford, with the board was keep this thing on time, keep it on budget, and get it to us in time so we could have this discussion. Um and here we
are, right? We we've hit those marks. So, I want to thank you again for the time you took to meet with us early on our one-on ones to go over um all the information that we had and give us valuable feedback. Um some of you showed up to some of our public meetings that we had. we had five um they were they
were spirited um but we we we learned quite a bit at those meetings and were able to incorporate um valuable information into into the plan. So you know without spending too much time up here um I want to turn it over to Mark. He'll walk you through a really quick presentation and then we'll be here available for any questions you may
have. Thank you uh commission. Thank you for having me here today. And I would like to echo uh what Jason mentioned about we were able to work very closely with uh county staff and I think a a real tight-knit team that was able to bring this home effectively and with some good
results. So we have a brief presentation that uh we'll go through ah right here. So go ahead and advance. Look at that. Okay. So here we are. So I appreciate the opportunity again. I'm
Mark Ellard, senior principal with Geiointech, project manager for the consultant team, uh multiddisciplinary consultant team that was able to uh provide some good resources to this project. Now, we had a chance to give an overview of this. So, we're going to go through a
real quick kind of recap for the purposes of this uh public uh BCC meeting. Uh starting out with just a reminder of what the goals of the overall plan were. So, or what this goal of this where I'm here right now for is
to present the summary of the master plan scope and results and overview. Again, it'll be a pretty quick overview since we've had the chance to disseminate this information quite a bit, but then importantly receive the stormwater master plan update with you all receiving and approve the ranking of
the top 15 projects, which we'll talk about in a little bit uh so that they move forward for further design and permitting. Now jumping in, what were the desired priorities outcomes of the project? Um, as storm water master plan kind of connotates, it's all about storm water.
Now there's a big focus on flooding of course, but there's also other elements that we looked at in in the plan to put together uh this roadmap for the county to move forward. So in addition to flood abatement, there's the idea of effective drainage and how that's maintained in the county. um operations and
maintenance, regulatory compliance, and really the goal of developing an actionable capital improvement projects uh to move forward with. And you know, we'll talk about these elements a little bit more. So, the master plan, which has been uh submitted to the county, is
final uh includes a couple important things. storm water areas of concern, an overall long needs list of what we found uh recommending suggestions for things to be done. Talk about that a little bit, but also a detailed uh for what we're calling the top 15 concept plan.
Some really detailed information that allows those projects to move forward right away subject to to the funding. Now, the scope, there's a lot of elements in the scope. won't go over all of them, but suffice to say, we spent a lot of time collecting all the information from the
county, both past, what's been done in the past, what's been successful, what hasn't worked, present, the present state of issues and concerns, and also what had been planned for the future, and be able to help try to inform that through this plan. So, there was a lot of data collection to understand what's
going on in the county. Uh also we had a chance to look at through the the storm water related codes and the comp plan and some of the level service criteria the operations and maintenance program. So in addition to just things going on in projects really dug into the staff and the resources and equipment that
help maintain storm water throughout the county. pulled all together the information that we had again from from past studies and wershed management plans to really identify what the the key pro uh projects and priorities are to move forward.
Now, we did include a pretty extensive public uh information and stakeholder involvement uh portion of the project and also of course we had the opportunity to meet with the the board here as we're wrapping up the project. So I want to jump to a highlight of the
project was as I mentioned to identify the projects the problems moving forward. The idea here was to generate a laundry list if you will of things that need to be done to address storm water issues that have been identified both previous to this plan and during the course of this plan. So this was what we
called an area of concern identification process. So what were some of the sources of this information? As again I mentioned previous reports, studies, things that had been done uh but also comments from the public and other stakeholders that were involved in the process. Boil it down. It identified 141 separate
specific project needs. Again, a lot of them focused on flooding, but some of them having some ancillary benefits uh related to water quality or resiliency to be done. This information was all captured in the form of fact sheets within the master plan document. So
here's the graphic is an example of a two-page fact sheet. That's an example of just for one of those projects. So we had this two pages of information for each of these projects. So the county has this on their fingertips moving forward. So, some of the important information captured in these fact sheets included specific definition of
the problem, the issue, whether flooding or other related storm water issues, what a proposed improvement was, uh whether or not it was uh at this point a fully flushed out uh improvement or whether it was just the idea of where it's headed to uh initially, but idea of
a projection of the cost associated with it and then also the benefits of the project. So all those were wrapped up uh into these fact sheets. Now the next step we did is really to prioritize those. We're trying to get to what are the priority projects to really hit the ground running with in the next uh
planning cycle. So we needed a mechanism to be able to rank those projects. We used some existing uh public works ranking tools. We added a lot of bit of um enhancement to that and other criteria to be able to evaluate each one of these projects individually to give them a score and a rank. So what's shown
in this slide is the criteria that we uh looked at. There's a lot of lot of text on there a lot of criteria but it made sense to do in this context. So for example flooding the the severity of flooding is important that was a criteria but also cost of course
constructability can it be permitted and even things like environmental and other resiliency benefits were also factored in and scored. So the bottom line all 141 projects were scored and uh to prioritize them. Yes. Go ahead.
Can we go back to the last slide please? In your project ranking criteria um is this your is this your standard criteria that you do for customers whenever you look at storm water master plans or is this
modified a a new philosophy? What's your methodology kind of behind this? Um, I will say it's in the weight. Are they in order by by weight? You know, flood frequency. Number two, flooding impact kind of.
Yeah. Um, this was unique to Pasco County. I will say similar frameworks as this we've used in other communities throughout the state. Um, Pasco was the opportunity to really dig into some things that are more in the tip of the the tongue like like resiliency as an example. recently had the vulnerability
assessment completed uh during the county. So that's really important. I think we wanted to work in some of these factors that provide uh a peak into overall project benefit rather than just looking at okay this is going to take eight homes out out of flooding or and
make a road dry from flood. That's important. But there's also other benefits that can work into the overall costing which may impact the different types of funding and potentially grants and other money that come in. Um the list is not in priority order. What you
be uh kind of under the hood of this you'll see for each one of these criteria there was also a tiering of uh of score of 0 5 10 25 some scoring under there to rate each of those criteria relative to their importance or applicability to that particular
project. So, they were all weighted um uh weighted the same, but under the hood, there was some numbers that allowed some of the more important aspects of individual projects to kind of rise above. Does that help? Yeah, it's just depending on the weight
and kind of how it is, it could sometimes skew a particular project, right? And um so I was just cured more of the you know a better understanding of the methodology behind your your ranking criteria. I
think it's important um to that we un understand you know the point system. Yeah. Yeah. And one other thing I would add that may shed some light is these 141 projects, they're all in
various phases of of concept or idea. Uh some of them are in design phase right now. So they're very well flushed out as far as the concept. Some of them are just ideas now of where some complaint or some information came in from the public and just realizing what it is. So
there's a uh this is also an attempt to kind of provide a level playing field with the scoring for all these projects. Yeah. Thank you, Madam Chair. Yep. So, it's a little confusing with it being ranked. And by the way, I'm I'm glad, Mike, that you pulled this off the consent agenda to bring it forward. There was I had several questions. I
appreciate the meeting we first had and I think I might have talked with you about one of them you have on here is Town and Country Villas. At the time, maybe when before this started, the city's taken that property over and we actually gave the city $2
million improvements. We haven't given it to them yet, but we're about to. Yeah. what whatever the case may be allocated for that has been annexed by the city. So, I've got like Se Pines, which I'm glad is there, but there's even probably more parts to that that needs to get funded. That's been a 20-year project coming that we finally
got all the land we need. Now, we just need the Army Corps and one more approval to to go forward. That that project should be all the CE pine should be up there. I'm delighted to see that you get Foxwood subdivisions north and south in there. great ad because they've got money as well that can go along with
what's here to improve it. No, whatever. That's a that's a great ad that's in there. Green key neighborhood. And again, you say you've got no is when you say ranking to me that means rankings priority as far as scoring goes. Um so when you say it's not ranked but it's in
order, whatever, I don't know what that means. But green key is another big one that can work uh for a few different ways. And I think it was like 2.5 million we got years ago that could be part of that. And it's not only just that one solution right there, but also doing the Green Key Roadway to take that
water out to the Gulf is another big thing. Um when I look over to uh the Port Richie outfall, a phenomenal thing that again the city of Port Richie should be all over it with us trying to get funding as well to make that happen. Should be a high high level project.
Griffin Park I think is something we've already funded through ARP uh to to get done. So I'm not sure why this this is why this whole thing was confusing why I thought we need to discuss this thing because I don't know why we've got this ranking when it doesn't make sense to what we can get done what we've got
funded to get done and what we've got designed and you know should be moving forward. So I think this needs to be worked at and looked at closer and and brought back to us to say here's what we here's where we are in the projects. Here's we've got in process right now to give us better detail because just the
the number and a and a and a dollar amount has not given us a story about what we're going to do. If we got a plan, let's go put a plan. This is just a statement of here's here's what the projects are. So I think we need more detail to say what we're going to go do in cloak river. I see that up and down which is great. It's an impaired water
body. We just had the scolop season canceled partly from the outflows going through there for some great dredging work was done upstream. That's great. But the effects are still there for more to be done. And the golf and the golf courses all along on Trinity Boulevard are all willing to help and and help and
hold water to to to to make that work as well. So again, for a plan to come forward uh to be adopted, I I think we need something more that we're going to look at says here's what we're going to go do. We've got funding for 15 projects. It may be 30 with what we got funded already, but I think we need a
better plan to say here's what we're doing. Here's here's when we think we're going to get at least the first phase done. Um, again, Jason ML, public works director. Commissioner, great points. Um, if if I could, um, the plan itself followed a a transparent criteria. This
is something the county, um, our staff directed to do it this way, not Geocentech. We asked Geocentech to incorporate the things we thought were most important. Um, one is constructibility. We didn't want to come to you with a bunch of projects that we didn't think we can get off the ground.
Um we we wanted to come here with a list of projects that we feel comfortable with or either can go to design, permitting or actual construction in the next five years. Um much much of this is not funded yet. We don't through our capital budget our stormwater fee does
not cover the cost of these projects. It doesn't even it covers a fraction of the cost of these first 15 projects. The one thing I I want to say though and and we can we could use this perhaps to to do you're asking Commissioner Mariano. We are going to come back to you with a um
a rate sufficiency analysis from Stantech. They're currently working on that right now. Um we're going to come back with a a programmatic approach. How much money would we need to generate? When can we get the projects done? And you know what what that schedule would look like for these top projects that
we've selected based on that criteria which is transparent and it's in the plan. You could see the the scoring. Um, but the one thing we really wanted to focus on was to do projects that we could actually get done and not just sit there for the next 5 10 years as we try
to get property rights or permitting. We wanted to focus on ones that we can we can execute on. Um, and then we wanted to just bring that to you, show you how we did it, talk to you about the projects, and then come back to you in a few months with our report, our RSA from
Stant to say, "Okay, here's what it's going to take to fund these projects." and over what amount of years. That was our next step was to come back to you with that. After we move forward with the plan itself, then we have the projects. As Mark mentioned, there's 140 or so projects in there. Um perhaps
these 15, maybe one or two of them we interchange with another one or two off of the list. It depends on if you know there's always obstacles. Storm water projects, as you all know, can be a lot of moving parts, can be difficult, can take some time to implement. Um, we do want to give you a list though that we
feel confident that we can execute on and that's what you're seeing now. Madam Chair, yeah, and I I'm good with the list. All right. So, and again, it's it's it's a big big thing. So, to get it all together, this is back very very quickly. I'll give you credit for that to get it back so quickly. So, I
appreciate that. But again, to the details, we're going to have to make we we should be able to be in the position to say here's what we want to see get done. Here's what and why. And with different things going on in districts between the flooding of the hurricanes could dictate and again with all the money that's out there that's already
allocated for some of these projects I think should be factored into you know how they get done where they get done. I mean C pine's local you got there is number two but really when you've got all the land and everything else you need for one two and three we need to try to find a way. um
over Jasmine and Little uh Tim Brooks. We we bought the golf course. We did a great project in there, but we left out one part on the other side of the road, and I think I might have mentioned this to you. um is there's a there's a flooding that goes on in that area that simply instead of us having to run a
pipe and I was going to ask you for the numbers hopefully you'll have them for me this afternoon anyway to go put a pipe you know go put a pipe in that can take it from that side of the road into now where Tim Brooks can actually accept the water because years ago you only pump it for a little bit of time before it flood out the other area well now
it's got capacity where it can flow but you got to make sure the flow is going to be right you can't overwhelm the system either so I don't see that anywhere on here And I think that should be one of the items that should be on here. Yeah. And and commissioner, another another good point. I wanted to bring up the legacy projects, so to speak, the
things that you you all are very familiar with. Um Green Key, Seines, Lefit, um Magnolia Valley, everybody's favorite project. Those are projects that that didn't show up in our Where's Maggie Valley now that I look at it? Because we are already working on those
projects and already using our capital budget to fund those projects. We're not coming to you today with a master plan that's going to say, "Hey, we need to ask for more money for these projects. We're we're already planning on getting those projects done and executed, and we're in some phase of that."
I I I do have a question that I don't think I asked when in my meeting with you. So, this 85 million, is that money we have in our budget? No. No. So, what do you have? a small percentage that we could plan for of that about $4 to5 million a year has
been the average you have $4 to5 million a year in in capital for stormwater projects and we have a need of 85 million just right now we execute this this year we're executing on Griffin Park which is a $2.5 million project and $2.5 million in coververts that we do like your list
here it's we would like to get it done in five years if we got the funding for it we would like to execute this list of 15 projects in 5 years. Well, we would need the funding. Okay. Thinking about something that uh Commissioner Mariano just say just said,
how many if any of these can be can the money be found elsewhere besides your budget like CDBGDR money? We are applying for that for the the HUD money um for the second phase of Magnolia Valley which would be a a large excavation and
then Zephr Hill, Zephr Creek phases two and three. So the one that the Zephr Creek that's on here is that a phase four and five or or that's phase one. The the you don't want to if you have your money budgeted or you're planning to budget for the money
then you run into complications with the CDBGR money. So if I already have it budgeted then why would I be asking Yeah. for a grant. So Beacon Square is low income affected by the hurricanes. Why can't we use CDBGDR money over
there? I don't know. Perhaps we could I I could look into that, but we we focused on two two big projects for that grant money. So, a lot of lot of asks, I'm sure, are going to be for that money. Um so, we wanted to focus and prioritize on some of the big projects that have been um
with us with the county for a long time. So, I wanted to focus on two projects. Um and that's Magnolia Valley and Zephr Creek. If I may, I this this this plan really more or less sets your priorities. So, you know, to that that's really what we
what we need to understand in terms of the funding. We will cobble together funding from existing sources or from grant sources, appropriations, money. Those are those are ways and then the remainder of what will be left. That's why uh Jason is doing a um rate sufficiency analysis.
Oh, yeah. You'll you'll recall when the original storm water assessment was increased maybe eight or nine years ago, uh the intent of that was a pay as you go program. And by that I just mean you you saved the money when you had the money, you did the projects. Uh alternatives to that are to bond
revenues and and move forward with with debt issuance. Uh that was one of the one of the things that I've asked the team to look at as a result of this plan so we can get more done quicker um and and use the storm water assessment to fund the debt service. So, those are things that we will we will need to be
looking at. Um, you know, this is this is a list of 15, but I looked at the list. There's easily 100 something projects on on that on that list. Now, if the board wants to discuss how those priorities are made, I mean, we we can we can certainly do that, but as Jason points out, those
priorities will will shift. Um, you know, funding may become available for one class of project that that looks more attractive and and that'll move that forward. Another project could get stuck in permitting. land acquisition could be an issue. And so there needs to be flexibility with the plan. I think what Jason's saying here is is that
we're we're committed to doing that uh moving forward. Um it's it's really getting the resources to bear to get 141 projects done um is is really what we would what we would like to do. Um I I remember back in the day when I was on the Penllis Antlo River Basin board of swift mud that a lot of these
kind of projects, Commissioner Oakley uh and Commissioner Waitman would have been funded with cooperative funding money. Um And these are the kind of projects we kept funding in Penllis County because we didn't have our 50% match uh because we didn't have a storm water fee. It was so frustrating to me to have that, you
know, 25 million to spend and none of it in Pasco County in my basin. Um co I was your planner. Yeah. Yeah. And I used to call John Gallagher every time on the way down to to our meeting. Where are the Pasco projects? We don't
have the matching funds. Commissioner or Katherine, I wasn't a commissioner then. Um, all right. So, we're at um Do you have more in your presentation? I'm just I want to let um RS R52 folks know we're going to have to punt you to
the afternoon if you need 20 minutes for your presentation. I have a a very important meeting this during lunchtime. So, if you guys want to come back, we'll um 1:30 time certain get that one done. Uh, I would recommend you do your public hearings. It's an R item and you can
just hear it last, but that's up to you. All right, we'll hear that one. Sorry, don't know when, but it'll be this afternoon if you want to go ahead and go. And um, Commissioner, are you done with your questions for them? Yeah, I just um like to say like with all these projects out there, I think we need we need a more comprehensive look
at everything. Let's go find out what's funded, what's coming, you know, between the Green Key project to other funds that are out there with C pines, etc. for the money we're asking for to take a good look at the whole thing and let us have some direction where we want to go because I think if it if it comes down to it if it's next year and you know
Commissioner Starky it was 2006 we got this thing done um and and the board was afraid to do it even then I mean water fee the storm water fee they did I I was the assistant county administrator pushed me back the assistant county administration pushed me back said we don't want you to do that now I says we need to do this
got to do it it's been too long so with all that said we did a study for 5 years what we need to go do. I think comp compiling this all together, Jason, I think it's great that what you've done uh with Geocentech, etc. to bring this, but I think now we need to take a deeper dive into it to go find out what's out there.
And again, with mitigation money, with um 70%'s got to be spent in low-income areas. I think there may be some flexibility with CBDR if we need to to move some money around from other things like we said we would if we needed to. This may warrant that. I want I want to remind you that we have the CDBGDR
money, but we also have the other grant, HMGP, the HMGP, which also can help with some of this, right? It it can um I' I've gotten support what we're going to do. I I have a memo for it. I haven't been able to get to it yet, but I mean, there's there's certain
time restrictions and limitations on those dollars. I think what I'm hearing Commissioner Mariana say is you'd like the you'd like to see what a potential funding strategy looks like for for this plan. um and and how we could potentially cobble together funds for it. Um
are you reticent on adopting the plan absent that strategy or is that something we can bring back to the board recognizing that it's it's a plan like anything else? Yeah, I mean this is funible. I right we can approve this. They can move forward
and we can massage things as we look at the money. And is there any requirement to have this done right now or I mean is it something mandated or just something we're just putting together as a plan? I mean I I would I it's for your stormwater utility. I mean it's it's good to have a plan. It's good to have a
plan that's adopted especially if you're going to go to to markets uh for funding. Uh it's important now whether an item is number 20 on the list or number two on the list. I'm not sure. what they want is is, you know, do you have the analysis to back the need for
the projects and has the governing body adopted that plan? I mean, I'll say this, I don't think I'm ready to go look for funding until I know what I want to fund. And I I I would want to like take a close close look at what other funding's out there or we're looking at things we can do, can't do, and then really put something
together, try to find out what's what's legit to say, here's what we want to go do. Commissioner, if I could add, um, this is a very comprehensive list of projects, but as we know, you know, we've all been here doing this a long time. Things change. We need flexibility. Um, we need to be able to adjust and adapt to changing
circumstances that we may be facing. And this plan allows us to do that. We We're not You're not setting this thing in stone forever. I mean, you're showing 15 uh ranks rankings here, but you have 100 projects. 140 in the total. How many? 140 total.
140. I They sent me the whole report. Yeah, you Yeah, you got a copy. That's right. Pages and pages. Yes, I get to I get to read the plane. Yeah. All right. Move approval. All right. Second. All in favor? I. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. That's what
I was wanted to do. Thank you. All right. Since we moved um R52 to the afternoon, then we will move on to old business. And we'll start with Commissioner Oakley. time. You got eight minutes.
Oh, eight. I'm going to take 10. Oh, you can have it all. I um had a group come to see me and tour the historic courthouse. I believe I'm going to check my numbers.
So, there was the um Pasco County Youth Council with a tour to the historic courthouse uh last Thursday, which or on Thursday, August 7th. So, but young people there, I believe there were
seven of them involved in this tour. uh the advice I actually gave them uh because they're all very alert, want to know about what to do in the world and and I'm sure they're studying that. But I told them if they would just think about what they want to do in the world,
whether they in line right now to um do that right now, but never say no to what you make and do in the future. If you want to be a doctor, nurse, or a lawyer or what, work hard and you can be that in America. I left them with that comment, but they enjoyed the tour of
the historic quarter. Commissioner Oakley, are these um students from various high schools in the county or is this a Well, they were with a group in from Zephr Hills. Zephr Hills. Okay. And so I'm not aware of that that part
of it far as what school was each. I mean, they may all be from one school. I don't know the answer to that. So, but they were very alert and very interested in seeing what the courthouse and uh know how the deis had changed over the years from when they used to have
court there. The deis was on the opposite was on the north side of the building instead of the south like it is now and the little ladder down in our boardroom. That little circle ladder would put the judge up right behind his desk at that point in time. And the fact
of it is um there had to be a lot of security back in those days because there was a lot of uh people that didn't necessarily care for judges. So, but uh we made it through a lot of that with a lot, you know, without having a lot of
issues, but Pasco County's got a very good history to what's happening in the west side and the east side. We have we have two we have one county but we have actually two ways of life. We had citrus and all that on the east side and we
still had some citrus on the west side but there was a lot more on the coast with fishing and uh oysters and things of that nature that that would happen on the west side that the east side did not have. So two very good histories of
careers happened in the county. So that's all I have. Hey, Commissioner Wait. I am uh easy today and share with Commissioner Mariano. You're what?
He hadn't got anything. I didn't I didn't catch what he said. You've got nothing. Nothing. Commission Mariano. Yeah, I got some pictures coming up.
Just the last ones I sent you, Tony. Yeah, those videos will wait for the afternoon. I had had a real good meeting down at uh Point the Story this past uh week with Congressman Billas. Uh Spencer was able to show uh all the great things they've been doing and Congressman
Billis would actually uh talk about all the things going. All right, first picture there. Just this is just an idea. How cool is that? It's pretty cool. So, I'm thinking down in the Cove area at Sunwest, right where all the electric is, the second set of bathrooms, if I did something like that, the pilings could be mounted partially
in the water, which is actually on hard ground, and then bring it on side. Um, the bid on that and just just a basic stuff is only about 130 grand. So, I'm going to look at that a little bit more, get some uh input from more musicians, etc. to get the experts out there to
find out what would be good. But we could actually put this stage out in the water instead of in a parking lot. So we could be on the beach in the lower part of the uh uh lake that we had dug out to like a 4ft depth. We put two foot of sand. You can actually put your chair out there, sit in the water, watch the concert.
But is that right? Is that in the way of the wake board, right? No, it's all the way from it. So it's in the cove area. Wouldn't affect it at all. Matter of fact, it makes it really easy for anybody because as a natural amphitheater, you can actually take a wheelchair down and around it and because of the height elevation, you have your own chair and just kind of
like look at the whole thing. It could even end up being possibly a wedding little pavilion type area too where you could actually do some things out there with it. Anyway, I'm just getting started on that. Just wanted to show you a picture that was thrown to me. But is that going to be privately funded? Uh, we're not sure yet. I'm just I'm just working an idea to get find
something that's good and then try to like make make it where I can take the next steps. It could be, you know, the so and so. It could be band pavilion. Yeah, we we may get to that point. I I just want to make sure it does that because one of the one of the hassles when you have when you're having a thing of outdoor event, when the rain comes in, you've got musicians that got their
big things out front that are getting covered. They got to cover it. Then the band's got to huddle up behind it when they're trying to cover all the things that can't get wet. So, if we had those, that's like that's two containers like put together. Oh. So, if you could actually draw even a piece of plastic straight down around it or a glass folding doors, whatever.
Keep everything dry. But you you going to have to check on the acoustics. Yes. We're going to, like I said, I've got so far all the musicians I talked to love the concept. Now, we just try to do the execution. Here's something I saw. I was up just up in Alexandria uh with my
grandson and we took him to this park and this is reminds me of like over in Gulf Highlands where we just built that new fire station. You get the fire station that's right there and a park is like right beside it. I've tried to do that in holiday. Yeah. I I I I think this is very smart to take
that p that extra public land. Yeah. And put it for the good news. Put a little park in there. So good. I got like three or four pictures there. So I think it's something we should take a look at especially there. Yeah. Michelle having a good time. Otherwise, uh go ahead. He's got big Jack. Yeah,
he's grown. So it's something that's um I I think it's worth taking a look at. And then and one of one of the things my wife Michelle said about was it's because it's right there, it's also safe. It doesn't get any trouble, etc. U well well respected.
Uh isn't that think that's it? That's it. Okay. All right. That's all I have. Thank you. Oh jeez. Okay. Um one minute. All right. Let's try and get me down in one minute. Um keep uh Pasco Beautiful is happening on September 20th. Um,
and wait, September 20th, this says 8-12. Oh, from 8 to 12 at several occasions. So, go to keep Pasco Beautiful to sign up. I I love I love that big cleanup. Um, so hopefully I can participate in that. I don't know my schedule. Um, this is the back to school
bash that was held at uh Jay Ben Herrell. We contributed to that. Look at all the kids that we had there that got um filled backpacks and we had many different community members um helping to to fund these. So, thank you to
everyone who helped and um this is the Habitat for Humanity Tampa Bay Gulf site. Uh they partnered with T public's charities uh for a historical project. It's one of Habitat's largest projects yet in the county. It included the
construction of seven new homes located on Kioa Drive and they broke ground in May and expect the homeowners to take home ownership in October. So great project. My staff uh went to the to the to the uh event. Um
I have been driving on Trouble Creek uh for quite a few years. Uh last week or two weeks ago when I was driving in the rain in the dark, it's a windy two-lane road. I literally went off the road into the uh ditch. Um so I have asked
repeatedly repeatedly if we could put some lights on Trouble Creek Road. So I talked to the county administrator about that and I really really hope to see some action that even if it's just in a few strategic places, we put some lights. Um, this is what when uh the the
folks from Green Key were speaking, I I I went and looked at some pictures of Green Key and some are from 2011 and some are from today and I just dropped a pin on Google Earth. Um, that's from 2011
and uh that's today. So, this is a result of us in my opinion underfunding the parks department. And so we have really that's today's photo and it's before the hurricane mind you and somewhere in there is another view of
that area. That's what it used to look like. We we need to take better pride in our public places. That is a really sad photo in my opinion. And like I said, you're driving down the Sun Coast, you see that wooden fence that keeps people
from going off the trail on the on the west side, and it's missing boards all over the place, but we don't have the funding to repair these things. Yes, Commissioner, I'm in agreeance with you about those things need to be better. Yeah. I've been traveling a lot of different
places over the past couple of months. The fact of it is I hate going into a place that's got so many beautiful flowers, but when I come back home, it looks like we don't have flowers here. But I would like to see us add flowers of color.
Yes. Around our public parks and our our public buildings to where you see them and they're not just when you drive out of this greenery, but they're color. Yeah. When you drive out of this complex and you look at the parking lot, our
parking lot, the courthouse parking lot, the front presentation of the government center on Ron Little Road, I want you to notice the dead trees, the lack of trees. I have been asking for years, can we not take this tree mitigation money
and put it in our own parking lot? Sure. In our own courthouse parking lot. Well, we learned the ad. It hasn't. spend it how he wants, but it it doesn't happen. So, this is I missed asking them yesterday, where's the trees in the parking lot? Because I said I'm going to ask every Monday, when
are we putting the trees in? And another two Mondays have gone by since I asked you. So, um I think that is do I did I send Oh, yesterday I was with Congressman Bill Rakus. I do not have the picture. Um but
Oh, here here I have it. Um, let me forward these to Tony real quick. Well, I won't do it. Um, Congressman and I um and uh the crew from PEDC, we uh met uh at the new offices of G&H, which is a
British company that uh bought um uh Miopa, which Miopta became something else, and then they bought that company. So they are moving their North American headquarters here to Trinity and looking to expand um the main business that they
do here in the Trinity area is Department of Defense work. Um very critical stuff. So we had a great meeting with the congressman um and uh with those folks from England. So I met them when I was over in London. Okay, we are going to break for lunch. We'll be
back at 1:30. Pasco County waterways and wildlife depend on you to keep them healthy. Excess fertilizer, grass clippings,