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[Music] [Music] [Music] Good morning. I'd like to call to order the Pasco County Board of County
Commission 10:00 a.m. meeting of May 6, 2025. At this time, please silence all your electronic devices, that's your phones, and uh mute your microphones if you're at home. Please rise for the invocation and the pledge.
Do we have someone today? Yes, we do. Good morning. Let us pray. Great and almighty God, we thank you today for this day of civic business. We ask that you will give us wisdom, peace in our communities, and
compassion to uplift our issues today. Amen. Amen. Could you please state your name for the record? Yes, I was going to ask that. Chaplain Anthony Shy, Pasco County Fire Rescue. Thank you so much. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay, madame clerk, can you please call the role? District one, Commissioner Oakley, here. District two, Commissioner
Weightman, present. District four, Commissioner Joerger, here. District five, Commissioner Mariano, here. District 3 Chairman Starky here. Um, we're gonna switch things up a little bit this morning. We're going to go right into the resolution so our our first responders over here can get right
back out because we're a busy county. So, um, you want to call up the first resolution? [Music] I do not have them. Res, uh, hospital week in Pasco County.
Sorry, we weren't ready for that. Sorry. All right. Sorry about that. We were taken out of order and I wasn't aware. That was a surprise. Please come forward. Yes, please. Yes. Please step up to the podium and I'll go ahead and read the resolution. Morning.
All right. Resolution number 25-210, a resolution by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, declaring May 11th through 17, 2025 as hospital week in Pasco County. Whereas the Advent Health Conton, Advent Health Dade City, Advent Health Wesley
Chapel, and Advent Health Zephr Hills teams consist of more than 3,000 physicians, nurses, and staff in Pasco County. And RAZ Advent Health delivers unparalleled consistent health care including clinical expertise in cardiology, emergency care, surgical
services, obstetrics. Can you help me with this? Obstetrics. Obstetrics. Thank you. I might need some more help. So stand by. Level two NICU, neurosurgery, stroke care, long-term acute care, rehabilitation, weight loss surgery,
imaging laboratory, home health, wound care, diabetes, and women's services. And whereas Advent Health has been a steadfast pillar of healthc care excellence in Pasco County, providing compassionate care, innovative treatments, and unwavering support to individuals and families in the
community. and Raz Advent Health Date City Advent Health Wesley Chav Chapel Advent Health Zephr Hills have been recognized with an A hospital safety grade from the Leaprog Group, a national nonprofit watchdog that sets standards for excellence in patient care. And
whereas a core mission of the Advent Health organization is investing in the community and health care with more than 200 million last year towards charity care, coverage shortfalls, community health services, and cash in and inind contributions to other organizations.
ANRAZ hospital week provides an annual opportunity for individuals and communities to express gratitude, appreciation, and support for health care professionals recognizing their tireless efforts and profound impact on the lives of others. Now therefore, be it resolved by the board of county
commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, that said board hereby declares May 11th through the 17th, 2025 as hospital week in Pasco County, and ask all Pasco County citizens to join in honoring the healthc care heroes who care for the community every day. Dun and resolved in
regular session with a quorum president and voting this sixth day of May, 2025. Move approval. Second. All in favor? I. Morning, Mr. Oakley. Good morning. Good morning, Mike. Good morning. Glad to see the group you've got here today. Great group. That's right. Pretty exciting
hospital week. I hope that means things go smoothly and no one has any issues. So, we got great teams back at the hospital. Yeah. Uh for a lifetime I've been a part of the hospital here in Zephrios and Dade City and of course
Wesley Chapel. But I can only thank you for all the care that each and every one of your nurses and doctors and all of you staff that help support all that that compassionate way you take care of our citizens of Basco County. So, uh,
with that, who's going to be the spokesman? I will go ahead and do that. Yep. Thank you, Chairman, Commissioner Oakley. Uh, to the rest of the commissioners, thank you. Good morning again. My name is Mike Merurl and I serve as the president and CEO for Avan Health Zephr Hills and our Aventan
Health Connor facility long-term acute care in Land of Lakes. And on behalf of this team, representatives from all of our hospitals across the county that are part of Aban Health and as you mentioned the three over 3,000 members of our team serving in this great county. Uh just
appreciate the opportunity to be in front of you today and to celebrate National Hospital Week. It is the opportunity we get every year to celebrate with our teams and recognize their compassion, their excellence, and their service for our community. And so, I'd like to extend my gratitude on
behalf of our team to you for recognizing that with us and uh the vital role that our hospitals play in our communities, whether they've been a part of the community for over 50 years like Dade City or or over a decade in Wesley Chapel, uh we are part of a
growing community. And I think that's what's so awesome about uh our commitment and what we want to do together in Avent Health is that we grow as a community, as we grow as a county, we are growing alongside you. And uh it is our commitment uh to innovate and expand and grow along with Pasco County.
And so um as we do that, we want to bring more doctors, more facilities, more services to this county to support the growth that's going on and do that alongside you. And we are just proud to serve and and grow that infrastructure that will serve our community better and better every day. And everything we do
is intended to serve the growing community of Pasco County. And so we just thank you again for your unwavering support uh for this hospital week. Our hospitals and our clinics, our physician offices, our new our new off-site ERS are more than just buildings. They're a
place where people come and they need they need help and they need care at their most vulnerable time. And so I that's the thing that I love most about our teams is that at the end of the day it's people taking care of people and that's people of this county and we want to do that with compassion and love and
and support and most of all keeping them safe each and every day. So thank you uh on behalf of this team and our rest of our caregivers at the hospitals. We appreciate your unwavering support and look forward to growing together in the future. Thank you so much. Thank you. Uh other board members would like to say
something. Go ahead. Well, we're just um glad you're here and we it's just amazing the amount of hospitals that are moving to our county. Um so, um we we uh just appreciate all you do for our citizens and not just in Pasco County. I would imagine you have folks traveling
here from some of the other counties around. Um we know of your wonderful reputation and just congratulations and thank you for all you do. Thank you, Chairman. Southrest. Yeah, guys, you know, aside from seeing
Pasco as a as a as a market base for you and supplying quality care for our citizens and our visitors, just thank you for being a community partner overall. There's not a request whether it's helping the firefighters on a fishing tournament or a little league team or or you name it, you guys are
there. You're not just there with monetary support, but you show up and people see a face and they realize that, hey, medical is human, too. And that goes with your human- centered approach. And u that's very much appreciated, I
think, by all of us and the folks that call Pasco home. Which is your most western facility in the county? Advent Health North Panelis is probably the furthest is on is in uh Tarpon Springs. Oh, is that the old Helen
Ellis? Okay. In Pasco County, it would be Connor, Lando Lakes. It's a long-term acute care facility, but Okay. North Panelis for sure. Helen. So, I of course want to say thank you guys for everything you do and I am a huge fan of your new uh urgent cares. So
instead of going to the hospital, I'm able to take my kids to the Advent Health Urgent Care. So, and we've had great success there. So, fantastic. Um, thank you. Y appreciate it. And I tell you, I I want to thank Advent Health. You guys have been such an asset to the community as we focus on quality of
life. If you have your health, you have it all. If you get care, you can go. So, what you do to improve everything is is amazing. Um it was recently that uh we actually on the BBL I was with uh again we're over at uh a hospitality
group called BBL with Marriott. Yes. And they actually chose you guys for the great work you do to give you guys a donation for the great work you do. So that kind of tells you that you're resonating from a lot of people from all around. Um you guys have helped out with sponsors in in great ways for the center
ice. You started off with that one wire grass sports compass. I want to say that I was at a firefighters picnic, Kevin, Commissioner Stark and I were at uh last year and Ryan Quadabone was there and he put a presentation on you guys were sponsoring that for all the firefighters. Yep. And little it was
literally seconds before I said look I'm doing a scolop fest. Would you like like to help out with that? You guys put us in so all the families can go and then uh it it led from taking care of the firefighters now the nurses etc. And everybody can go for free now thanks to your leadership and what you helped us do. We're expecting this year starts on
July 24th. Hopefully you bring all your employees out there. Want to treat them all well. Let them have all have a good time. Um and again just thank you guys for all the great work you do. I've been a patient. I've had friends been patients and your service has been phenomenal. So thank you. Thank you. We're going to have Commissioner Oakley
go down and we're going to stand here. Okay. Thank you so much. Just keep that person off the table. Sure. Thank you. Okay, he'll stand in the middle here [Music]
with you. Maybe it goes I put sometimes I put them in real. [Music] Sometimes I take pictures from her. I take pictures and then I send it to
sometimes. All right, everybody look right here for me. One, two, three. All right. Well, thank you so much. Yep. Thank you. Hey, what's up? How you doing? Nice to
see you, too. Appreciate Madam Chair, resolution number two. Yep. All right. If you are here for the um county correctional officers and employees week, please step to the podium. County Correctional Officers and Employees Week. There you go. There you
go. You all can't hide. We know what you look like. They just went around. They're not blending into the background. All right, I'll go ahead and read the resolution. Resolution number
25-207, a resolution by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, declaring the week of May 4th through 10th, 2025 as Pasco County Correctional Officers and Employees Week. Whereas on October 1st, 2020
2022, Pasco County assumed all duties and responsibilities of management and operations of the Pasco County Jail in Lando Lakes, Florida. Andraz the Pasco County Jail is docu is documented as the 10th largest county correctional facility in Florida due to the housing
of over 1,000 offenders. Anra correctional facilities across the United States, both public and private, military and civilian, are run by highly qualified and experienced men and women with a deep understanding of the challenges and difficulties within their profession. ANRAZ correctional officers
are highly trained professionals dedicated to maintaining secure correctional facilities and ensuring public safety for all communities. And whereas correctional officers and professionals serve admirably in many different capacities, including jail
administrators, supervisors, officers, and support staff, and they work in very demanding and stressful conditions, facing many challenges, and put their lives at risk every day. And correctional officers and employees are responsible for the custody, care, safety, security, and reform of
thousands of offenders every year, as well as the maintenance of safe and secure facilities. and rise correctional officers and employees guide, counsel, mentor, teach, train, treat, and assist in rehabilitation of offenders and provide offenders with direction,
guidance, and a new focus while preparing them for community re-entry. And correctional officers and employees rise to meet any challenge faced with courage, honor, and excellence. Now therefore, be it resolved by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, that said, board hereby proclaims the week of May 4th through
10th, 2025 as Pasco County Correctional Officers and Employees Week, and encourages the citizens of Pasco County to join in expressing appreciation for the hard work, extreme diligence, exceptional service, and uncurmountable dedication provided by the individuals who work in our community or in our
county correctional facility. Done and resolved in regular session with a quorum present in voting the sixth day of May 2025. Move approval. Second. All in favor? I I don't know how to turn off my Apple Watch. It keeps ring. Oh, okay. This is Commissioner Wait.
Thank you, Chery. JJ, Chief Jenkins, you know, glad y'all are here embarking on our third year as uh Pasco County's Department of Corrections and managing our jail. And
um it's been quite a ride so far. Came into office. Who would have thought that we'd become one of five wardens essentially, right? And you know, thanks to you all, we've learned I've learned an incredible amount of what goes into a jail, how to manage the facility, from
toothbrushes to underwear, you name it. Um, all the all the different aspects of what you all are tasked to manage um is uh pretty pretty incredible. and the dedication to your to the force and um
you know being being in the facility 247 365 and taking care of folks who have many many challenges. And uh with that I'd say remember to take care of yourself. You know you're no good to to someone if if you're not good to
yourself and take care of yourself. It can be a very taxing job and career. But I'm incredibly grateful that you've chose to to do this line of work and choose to work for Pasco County. And uh very glad to have you all here today and
to celebrate all the great work that you all do. So thank you JJ. Anyone else? I just want to say thank you guys for what you do. It is not easy. I don't envy your job. And also just something that I have noticed when
when I'm at a firefighter pinning I always see you guys supporting our firefighters and I love that our firefighters support you all. I the relationship is just great and um again thank you Commissioner Oakley. Yep. Uh
JJ and all all of you and all your staff members because I know all of you aren't here so somebody had to work. So, but the fact of it is is the work you've done here in Pesco County in the last starting of the third year has been greatly received by our community and
you're doing a great job. We appreciate each and everything and it's not always easy to do, but you're doing the right thing and we're getting uh set up for the new expansion coming on board pretty soon. So, we look forward to u y'all
having better facilities to do a better job for the citizens of Pasco County. We appreciate everything you do. Thank you. I just like to say thank you for the great work. You guys have the toughest people to deal with, the toughest clientele going on and what you have to do every day, trying to do all the right
things and keep yourself safe, which is the most important. We don't want anybody to be getting hurt and thank you for all the great work you do. Mr. Carella, I'll just pile on. The accolades are are obviously all the same, but I I will focus on the fact that as an organization, what you do,
the culture and the tight-knitness of of how you do it is what's impressive to me probably the most. You are the high highest you you have the highest engagement of of any department in in county government. And I think that's a great sign that your leadership
uh is great there, Chief, as well as your team and how you guys interact as people. and and I think that it's it's phenomenal that you can run a facility and run it the way that you do and have an amazing team that is highly engaged along the way. So, I thank you for that. Okay. And uh why don't you guys line up here? Commissioner Waitman got it down
there. We'll stay behind the remarks. Oh, I'm sorry. Just got past the galler. You're doing good. Please. I'll be I'll be very brief, Commissioner so we can get the picture taken very very quickly. Um, so I do want to thank uh the chair
and the board for recognition of correction officer appreciation week along with the um correctional support staff. So together um we all do run a very professional organization. We just had our Florida Model Jail standards
inspection last week where we have other agencies come in and they inspect us and I can tell you they found absolutely nothing wrong with the uh facility operations, the physical plant, all of our documentation. So, it's really a testament to the work that everybody does up here. And um like I said, we
have um our civilian staff here. We have the most senior member of member of the organization. and we have one of our brand new members that just graduated the academy here. So, um, we're going to continue to bring people on, continue to rep represent you all well, but I do
appreciate all of your support. Thank you so much. Okay, JJ, I should have taken the chief up on our offer to speak first because I was going to bring up the inspection. So, uh, no, when when Mike talks about the engagement, the culture that the chief
and the leadership team have built here, uh, that's why people don't leave. if they get offers to take $20,000 to go somewhere else, they stay right here in Pasco County. So, I think it's a testament to the support we received from the commissioners, from uh Mike and the staff, and the transition was, you
know, maybe not as smooth as would you would say ideal, they made it ideal. They made it work, and we'll continue. And this summer, we get to open the the the first phase of the three-phase expansion. And uh we're looking forward to that. And thank you again for all your support for public safety. All
right. Thank you. Can't wait for the picture. [Laughter] Come [Laughter] here. $1,000 check. I can't I have no idea who
it's to. I'm sorry I couldn't be here to say good words, but I gave them to you last week. Okay. P no R four three. If you're here for travel and tourism
week, please step up to the podium. All right. Where where in the world is Consuelo today? She's in Tulsa again. Wait till you see the mountain bike uh BMX place in Tulsa.
Right. I'll go ahead and read the resolution. Resolution number 25-205. a resolution by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, declaring the week of May 4th through 10th, 2025 as travel and tourism week in Pasco County. Whereas National
Travel and Tourism Week established by a congressional resolution in 1983 is an annual tradition during the month of May during which the United States travel community celebrates the value travel holds for our economy, businesses, and
personal well-being. ANRAZ tourism in Florida's is Florida's top economic driver. Awareness of the tourism industry integral part industry's integral part in Florida's economic success will encourage promotion of tourism activities and continue to
increase the number of visitors to the state and to Pasco County. ANRAZ Florida Sports Coast, Pasco County's destinations management organization, works hard year round with industry partners to promote great reasons for visitors to come to Pasco County for
sports, leisure, and business activities. Andraz in fiscal year 2024 visitors to Pasco County had an economic impact of $985 million including over $675 million in direct spending by
approximately $1.5 million visitors visitors spending in 2024 saved each Pasco household $349 in state and local taxes. And in fiscal year 2024, the tourism industry supported
10,440 jobs in Pasco County, generating 34,000 200. This is a going to be a fun number. 34,2,300 in wages and salaries. Thank you for that exact number. Thank you for reading
it. Andraz on May 22nd, 2025, Florida Sports Coast was se uh will celebrate travel and tourism week by hosting their fifth annual tourism banquet and awards recognizing those who take a leading role in the tourism industry in Pasco
County with a keynote speech from former National Football League coach Tony Dunie. Hello. Now therefore, be it resolved by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, that said board hereby proclaims May 4th through 10th, 2025 as tourism, no, as
travel and tourism week in Pasco County and urges all Pasco residents, Pasco County residents to recognize the importance of this vital industry to our area. Done and resolved in regular session with a quorum present and voting the sixth day of May, 2025. Move
approval. Second. All in favor? Hi. Well, what what a few weeks you've had with all the fun stuff going in the legislature. Yes, ma'am. Um, but we we we have such wonderful numbers and I just want to thank the whole team for um
all the hard work you do and so proud of our county and all the great things we have to offer and you know some of the places I haven't been to yet. I have can't wait to take my my grandchildren to feed those giraffes. So, um lots going on with travel and tourism and Why
don't you speak to the Thank you, Madam Chair. Adam Thomas, executive director of Florida Sports Coast in Pasco County. Um, I'm here today with uh with the Florida Sports Coast team and and some members from our our tourist development council, but uh uh we can't do what we do without the support of our team and the TDC and more importantly of the board of county commissioners. So, first
of all, thank you for your support and the supporting our industry, not only here uh locally in Pasco County, but statewide. Um, speaking about the legislature, um, you know, travel and tourism are are major factors when when driving the Florida economy, generating billions of
dollars in revenue, supporting millions of jobs, and contributing significantly to the state and local tax revenue. It's considered that the state's leading industry and a significant source of economic stimulus. So, some examples of that are some local businesses. Tourism
supports a wide range of local businesses from restaurants and hotels to shops and attractions. Infrastructure Tourism spends spendings contributes to the funding of essential infrastructure projects such as roads and transportation. Community development
tourism tourism can help promote community development by creating jobs, attracting investment, and improving quality of life for residents. So in essence, tourism is a powerful engine for Florida and Pasco County's economy, driving revenue, creating jobs, and supporting comm community communities
across this great county. So thank you so much for supporting us and sponsoring this resolution, uh, Chairman Sari. And I just thank you so much. And let um, what is the date of the tourism banquet? The May 22nd at Saddle Brook Resort. And do we still have some tickets left? We do. Yes, ma'am. You can. So And if
people want to join us and listen to Coach Dunie, how do they get some tickets? Well, it's not Chuck Norris, but it is it is Coach Dunie. So, next year, who said Chuck Norris? Ne next next year, we we might have an opportunity. Um, but yes, you can go online. Um, you can go on our website
and um our events page on our website and uh and purchase tickets that way or just reach out to us and we'll we'll guide you. And do we have that drone show again since we don't have the drone show? We have something else. Missed it last. We have some other things that are supplementing the drone show that's going to be more entertaining. Really?
Yes. I have to say that's my favorite event. pretty high, so I can't wait for the sheriff. Um, anyone else have any comments? Yeah, Mr. We'll start with Commissioner. I certainly appreciate everything you've
done and and your team stepping up and and taking charge and doing what you've done for the citizen of Pasco County. It's been going very well and certainly appreciate each and every one of you what you do for the citizens of Pasco County. Thank you, Commissioner
Wakeman. You okay, Jack? Thank you, chair. I'm working my way. Yeah, I'm good. Obviously, everybody coming coming to Pasco and entertainment's a thing now. And, you know, thanks for making keeping Pasco fun and thinking innovatively and
and not just from, you know, Pascal and his team at Vanberg Tennis, but over to Jack's area at Sunwest and all the different sports parks, Wiregrass Ranch Sports Campus. I mean, there are options for Pasco and we're on the map and uh
y'all do exciting and fun work for us and um I know it can be a little daunting going all the different places that you have to go, but somebody's got to do it. It's it's tiring. It is. Somebody's got to do it and um you know, just grateful for for putting us on the
map and and showing us in a positive light and uh next year I'm I'm really looking forward to Chuck coming to town. And uh so no no pressure there. Yes, sir. And Commissioner Mariana, uh I'd like to
say Adam, you've done a phenomenal job since coming on board here. Um your willingness to just go after the market using technology as well has been incredible. Um I think the relationship you're building is great. um such as like BBL with Bobby, I mean just phenomenal just keeping them in and keep
everybody in the loop when when you have done such a great local job great job with the local businesses as well. All those daily things that go on that we sponsored like Chesco Fiesta, the the Kumquad Festival, all those things matter because when people are here, they get something to do. It makes them
want to come back and that's why the numbers have got stronger and stronger as we go. So, as much as we're doing great there, the other things we're doing to expand it out is going to bring even more more tourism and makes a great impact. As your uh study is going to show, it's saves the taxpayers here. I
think figured this year $384 a year and what they would normally pay for taxes is now sponsored by people coming in from out of town having a good time. And I will tell you like with the Chesco Fiesta, it's like my family's vacation where I bring them all down. We had like 12 family members come down this year just to celebrate that week and
whatever. But I'm sure around area whether it be tennis, paddle, whatever, people get people people love to have things to do when they get here. Absolutely. And you're helping make that happen, which wasn't always a focus before. There was struggles with that. So, you're doing that. It's going great. So, thank you. Can I add something? You know, I'm down here.
You're the chair on the microphone. For the last Yeah, I am the chair. Um, for the last few years, we have auctioned off um a scalloping on our boat at for different 501c3s. This year we donated to the Amskills and you know it goes for thousands of dollars. So uh we use that
as a a great money raiser for our charities. And then um I had a dinner party Saturday and we served the Pasco County's official pie. Nice. The frozen kamqua pie. Not one person there had ever had it and they were just blown
away. So um I want to make sure we get that into Saddlebrook. have suggested that they put that on their menus for their banquetss uh when uh they have businesses and conventions. So, um we're very proud of our official kumquat pie. All right, let's take a photo.
Oh, she did. We have a lot. [Applause] Go ahead and start. Okay. So, resolution number four. Let's see. If you're here for paint the town blue week, please
step up to the podium. All right. Hello. I'll go ahead and read the resolution. Resolution number 25- uh 209, a resolution by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, declaring May 11th through 17th, 2025 as Paint the Town Blue Week
in Pasco County. Whereas the week of May 11th through the 17th, 2025 is recognized across the United States as National Police Week, a time dedicated to honoring the service and sacrifice of law enforcement officers who uh safeguard our communities. And law
enforcement officers serve with unwavering commitment and courage, accepting the risks and responsibilities that come with protecting lives, property, and freedoms of the public. And whereas all federal, state, and local police officers, sheriffs, and other law enforcement officers across
the United States served with valor, dignity, and integrity, and for generations, brave men and women throughout Pasco County have answered the call to serve and protect our communities. Our law enforcement officers embody the encourage and honor
to represent the best of Pasco County. And in moments of danger and desperation, the first people who turn we turn to are law enforcement officers. These often unsung heroes risk their lives so that we can live in peace and security. And RAZ, the FBI Tampa
Citizens Academy Alumni Association, a nonprofit organization committed to community engagement and public safety awareness, has created the Paint the Town Blue campaign as a tribute to law enforcement officers nationwide. And Raz's campaign invites communities to
participate by lighting homes and businesses in blue, wearing blue attire, and sharing supportive messages on social media as visible symbols of appreciation and solidarity. And RAZ, the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners proudly supports this
initiative and the um outstanding contributions of our local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies. Now therefore, be it resolved by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, that said, board hereby proclaims the week of May 11th through 17, 2025 as paint the town blue week in
Pasco County and encourages all residents to join in this observ observance by participating in campaign activities and publicly expressing their appreciation for the dedication and bravery of law enforcement officers.
done and resolved in regular session with a quorum present and voting the sixth day of May 2025. Move approval second. All in favor? I Good morning. Morning. And uh and is this the first time we've done this one or we've done paint the town? No, this is the first
one from Pasco County. Yeah, that's I know we've done it with other other organizations, but not this one. So, good morning and tell us a little bit more about your involvement in all of this. Good morning. My name is Jacim. the president of the FBI Tampa Citizen Academy Alumni Association. With me is
uh James Nicole who actually was the gentleman behind this whole project about 5 years ago when it wasn't in favor to support the blue and also with me is board of directors Thomas King. um few years ago when everybody else in
the nation was uh going after the police, defunding the police, we decided to actually go in another direction which is supporting the police. So we've asked all the um commercial partners any federal, state, local to change their
light bulbs to blue uh in observance of police week. And then we started working with uh local and uh state governments to change their lights like the courouses and the bridges and we were able to do that. This is our fifth year
uh with this recognition and I'm a Pasco County resident and this means a lot to me coming from the board of commissioners. So thank you for the uh resolution. Thank you for recognizing us. I also want to recognize Bill Cronin who's also a part of this. Um anyone
else want to say? So, I want to ask my county administrator, are we making this building blue? Uh, we would hope so, Mr. Rebella. We are. Yes, we are. Oh, that's wonderful. Thank you. All right. Um, any anybody else have any
comments? I do. Go ahead, Commissioner Joerger. Um, one, as a daughter of law enforcement, thank you guys for everything. And um speaking of the light bulb, I live in um downtown the city of Newport Richie. So they do change the light bulb under the bridge. So when you
go under the bridge, it lights up. Thank you. So everyone everyone listening today, if you have the opportunity, go out and support your uh your law enforcement by putting a blue light somewhere in your home or business. Commissioner May, I'd like to thank a gentleman for taking the stand and
pushing this idea forward. I think it's so important for to let our law enforcement know that they're appreciated. The first responders, they've been through a lot of tough years with a lot of stuff that's going on. I think there's a definite change in the nation now. And thank you guys for leading the way here in Pasco. Thank you. Okay, Commissioner Waitman, then
we're all going to go down because there's just And thank you guys for making the trek over today. your uh work doesn't go unnoticed and um you know when uh country was going one direction, I'm glad you guys went another and that
means a lot here. I'm I'm fairly confident to say that this board supports our city police departments, our sheriff's office, our corrections, and uh we work very diligently to figure out a way to fund the organizations appropriately and support the officers that are in the field. And um we're just
grateful that you all are here and doing the work on the other side of the das to support the men and women who support us day in and day out every day. So thank you. Thank you. We're all going back.
All right, Thank you so much. [Applause] Okay. Okay, res five is going to be um the uh international firefighters
day. So, here we go. It's a It's a busy week. It is busy month. All right, I'll go ahead and read the resolution. Resolution number 25-206, a resolution by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, declaring the declaring May
4th, 2025 as International Firefighters Day in Pasco County. Whereas, in recognition of our firefighters, International Firefighters Day honors the sacrifices made by past and present firefighters to ensure the community is as safe as possible. And whereas
International Firefighters Day began in 1999 when Lieutenant JJ Edmonson sent out to honor five firefighters from the Gree Gilong, is that correct? West Fire Brigade of
Australia who lost their lives while fighting a fire on December 2nd, 1998 and an and is observed on May 4th because that is the feast day for St. Florian who is considered the patron saint for firefighters. And whereas the
National Fallen Firefighters Foundation recognizes the week of May 3rd through 4th, 2025 as the National Fallen Firefighters Memorial Weekend and created the light uh the light the night for fallen firefighters which encourages fire departments, families, and
businesses to turn their porch lights red to honor and remember those firefighters who have lost their lives in the line of duty. ANRA International Firefighters Day aims to raise public awareness about the invaluable role the firefighters play in protecting lives
and property and to serve as a solemn reminder of the dangers, increased health risks and sacrifices they make and the toll their profession takes on their physical and mental well-being. And whereas International Firefighters Day is a worldwide day to recognize,
express appreciation, and salute the men and women of the fire service for their incredible dedication to public service, their bravery in keeping us safe and protecting our properties, communities, natural preserves and wildernesses. And as we reflect on their heroism, show our
gratitude and thank them for their extraordinary commitment, exceptional courage, and selfless duty. and offer our support to those firefighters on the front lines every day. Now, therefore, be it resolved by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, that said board hereby proclaims May
4th, 2025 as International Firefighters Day in Pasco County and recognizes the citizens of Pasco County to join in expressing appreciation for the hard work, extreme diligence, exceptional service, and dedication provided by the individuals who work in Pasco County
Fire Rescue. done and resolved in regular session with a quorum present and voting the sixth day of May 2025. Approve. Second. All in favor? I. Commissioner Joerger. All right. Well, thank you and I am honored to present
this resolution to you all. Um, thank you for your commitment and your courage uh providing our residents in Pasco County. Um, not only are you guys firefighters, but you're also first responders. You're the first one on the scene of an accident. I I can't imagine
the things that you guys see and perform on on a daily basis. And you know, hearing this, I I it can't help me remind me of when um JJ gave out the Warrior award with the lady who was in distress with the
two children and had nowhere to go. She was scared on the run, didn't have car seats, and she ran to the ran to the fire station. So, the fire station, you know, is just a symbol of of safety and hope. And um I just thank you guys for for risking your lives every day. And um
in Pasco County, we're proud that we're investing in your your health and safety and thank you for everything you do for our citizens. You guys are absolutely amazing and we're so grateful and thankful to have you. Oh, and of course my son is in the cadet
program. So, um I'm very proud of him as well. And he really looks up to you guys. If I tell him I ran into a firefighter, who is it, Mom? What station are they at? Yeah, we're JJ Ryan Chief U. I can't
thank you enough for all that you do and all your staff and members of the fire department all do throughout our county and certainly appreciate all you do that uh leads to safe saving lives and also taking care of our citizens so they will
be out of harm's way. So, thank you very much, Commissioner Whitman. Yeah, thank you. Well, you guys, I don't know how you handle the stress. You worry about taking care of everybody else all day long. and you all have families and loved ones you got to
care for also. And uh again, like said with the corrections, take care of yourselves. It's important. If you don't take care of yourselves, you can't take care of us. And we need you. And uh you know, you guys choose this profession and and love love doing the job day in
and day out. Not just when you're on duty, but see the guys in the back there. They're probably off duty and they're still here and and doing all different community engagement events throughout our county and out of county to promote the job at hand and in our
our department here in Pasco. So, thank you for your love and dedication of your job, our county, our folks, our businesses, and um just incredibly grateful for all you do for us. So, glad you're here today. Commissioner Marian, I like to say you guys are just a top
class. Um, the organization, especially over the years, has just grown to be such a professional organization. The work you do is incredible. I know that people appreciate it. The surveys show it over and over again. The people we talk to uh show that. And I think you can see with the board that, you know, making sure you have the right
equipment, making sure you have the right place to live while you're working and you're away from your families. Uh, I think the new schedule is going to be something that's going to great take the stress off you at the same time. Um, improve your quality of life. the care that we want to take of you guys to make
sure you're healthy, not only for mental health, but the physical health. I think it shows with the station we're putting in place and all all the stuff we do. And I'll tell you, you got a great team of leaders, but you guys are doing a great job on the ground, and that makes such a difference to this county. So, thank you for all your great service. We appreciate it. And by the way, I do have
two lampost. I think I got a red one. I'll have a blue one now for the week. And our county administrator wants to say some words. Yes. Actually, I I just uh again grateful for the service that you provide. Having grown up in this environment, I I understand what you do day in and day out. I will say that uh
I'm also proud I'm very proud of this agency and what you guys have accomplished. Pasco County's reputation is first rate in the state, if not in the nation, but it's because of you and uh you you should take great pride in that because I certainly do. And we're just grateful for the relationship that we have both administration, the union,
rank and file. It's it's been fantastic. So, thank you all for that. and and I would just echo all the comments here. Um JJ, wonderful job. We're so glad we have this new occupition and chief, congratulations on all the fine work
you're doing. And I always say there's not a time when I'm out on the road that I don't pass one of you guys heading off to an emergency. And there was a fire truck this morning. I think it was on Curly or Prospect heading somewhere um
this morning. So, I think we're the busiest fire department in the state. Is that correct? There was a tractor trailer turned over on I75 this morning. Oh, well, um, no doubt. Um, we value your service and
love the good relationship we have with all of you and are just so grateful that you have chosen your professions to take care of all of us. So, with that, Commissioner Joerger, that's Chief want to say something. Chief Oh, yeah. Go ahead, Chief. Sure. just like to say,
you know, we value your support. We thank you very much for it all. This is Battalion Chief Victor Tasaro, Captain James Mohler. These are the crews that are here just down the road that are here serving the public in this area right here. These are the ones that are doing the hard work. These are the ones that are out there making a difference and they're the ones that are making
this organization as great as they are, just like the Mr. Carbala said. So, um, you know, this is a day of remembrance as well. I just like to remind the commission that, you know, two years ago, we lost Jason Tucker to a line of duty death. And this weekend we had a representation up at the National Fallen Firefighters Memorial where he was
memorialized very very respectfully and and welld deserved. So I just wanted to bring that back to attention. Thank you very much. Um Commissioner JD, did you Okay, sorry. Just real quick, I want to thank uh the commissioners for your support on the mental health
initiatives. We have our mental health for first responders. That program is being copied. We used it when there was an area uh county who had a tragic loss. We used our services uh and they utilized our services. We're being
copied. Uh we've been asked to go around the country and and frankly outside of our country to help uh model that program. And the same thing with Dshift. If you uh and and Mike has heard this from from his family members in Tampa,
everyone's trying to figure out how to copy Pasco County with the Mayor Casters asked me on one of our um economic development trips said, "How did you do that?" I just wish the public knew the phone calls that we've had over the years, whether it's on equipment,
Dshift, mental health, the advocacy, the advocacy you guys have had and shown to this fire department and and the corrections. I'm I'm lucky. I say I have the best job because I had public safety, but it helps these guys on the ground do their job because we're providing the best equipment and the
support. So, I just want to say thank you. All right. And thank you to Raider and the other dogs in the fire department. Um, picture. How will we do this one? Okay, we'll stay up. Commissioner, um, you do that one and then as soon as we're done with this, please start
reading number six. She'll still be walking up when we start reading. Don't give a time. Go ahead, [Laughter] Commissioner. All right, [Applause]
everybody. Oh, we got one more. We're going to go ahead and start reading it. Lisa, keep moving. Okay, so resolution number six, if you are here for older Americans Month in Pasco County, if you
could please step up to the podium. All right. Resolution number 25-208, a resolution by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, declaring the month of May 2025 as older Americans month in Pasco County. Whereas May is a time for us to
recognize and honor Pasco County and the area agency on aging of Pasco Penllis older adults and their immense influence on every facet of American society and through their wealth of life experiences
and wisdom. Older adults guide our younger generations and carry forward abundant cultural and historical knowledge. ANRA older Americans are a vital part of Pasco County's demographic makeup, contributing their time, wisdom, and experience to the community. ANRAZ
every citizen in Pasco County should strive to recognize, understand, and address the evolving needs of older adults. ANRA older Americans improve our communities through intergenerational relationships, community service, civic engagement, and many other activities.
And whereas communities benefit when people of all ages, abilities, and backgrounds can participate in and live independently. And whereas Pasco County and the area agency on aging of Pasco Penelis must ensure that older Americans
have the resources and support needed to stay involved in their communities, reflecting our commitment to inclusivity and connectedness. Andraz the 2025 theme of older Americans Month is flip the script on aging which seeks to transform
how society perceives talks about and approaches aging encouraging individuals and communities to challenge stereotypes and dispel misconceptions about older adults. And Ras Pasco County and the area agency on aging of Pasco Penellis urges all Pasco County citizens to
recognize the contributions of old of our older adults and to join in promoting programs and activities that foster connection, inclusion, and support for older adults. Now therefore, be it resolved by the board of county commissioners of Pasco County, Florida, that said, board hereby declares the
month of May 2025 as older Americans month in Pasco County, done and resolved in regular session with a quorum present and voting the 6th day of May 2025. Move approval. Second. All in favor? I. Commissioner Jerger.
All right. Well, I am honored to bring this resolution to you all. one, not only because I'm on the board of area of aging, but also because um I don't know, some of you may know, my grandfather lived to be 104, just shy of his 105th birthday. So, as a little girl, I would
just sit there and ask him about things from his childhood. And um he would tell me these fascinating stories, things I could not even even remember. And um whenever I see an older person, I mean, that's that's history walking around.
there's so much knowledge and information in in that person and I, you know, I try to encourage people to sit and just have a conversation with them with and tap into that wealth of knowledge and I'm I'm super proud to be on the board to work with you guys and
everything you do for our seniors. Um, I encourage people to go visit a senior center, get involved because the look on their face when you come see them. They are so thankful. They hug you, they clap, they're just they're
they're almost forgotten sometimes, and it's it's very um heartbreaking. So, thank you for being a light in their lives. Thank you for everything you guys do and and recognizing them. So, Chris Mariano, thank you. Uh thank you all for
your service uh in in aging. Uh our seniors are just they need the help. Uh they love the help. I mean we had a ribbon cutting yesterday with Gracie's food Gracie's food pantry and the the look of happiness all them being together but getting that little bit of
extra help for food makes a difference. Whatever you guys are doing for your services is making their lives better. So thank you for all that. Commissioner Oakley thank you all for all you do for our seniors. I I take particular notice when they talk about seniors anymore and
um fact of it is uh they talk about veterans and seniors. I perked up. So the fact of it is y'all do a great job for our seniors and you're the life link for a lot of them. They have no one else. So what you do for them, they're
very very grateful for for that. And I'm I'm sure you they're very thankful when the driver or whoever comes by to drop off meals or whatever they're doing for them, they're very grateful for that. That reach out of Pasco County and Pasco
and Pine House has worked out a great deal service a lot of seniors in our area. So, thank you very much, Commissioner W. Thank y Pearson, Miss Wter, Mr. Coven, thank you guys for choosing this line of work. Folks age,
they become more delicate and they're not sure what to do, what to do next. Um, and just glad you're there to help them help them figure out their this current phase of life. We're all going to be there one day. And I'd be remiss
if I didn't remind everybody that Pasco County passed a senior tax exemption, $50,000 additional homestead exemption for folks. And this is what the first year that it's going to go into effect. So, uh, please call the property appraisers's office. He has a whole team
ready to help help our seniors save some money, stay in their homes, and, uh, please take, please take advantage of Pasco's new senior tax exemption. Proud of the work that the board did to pass that tax exemption to help save our seniors some money, and um, hope that
the program is widely successful. So, thank you all for being here today. And um I would echo all the words of my commissioners and also add that we have our first senior well I don't know if it's our first but we have a new senior housing project going up um by a company
called Dominium behind Southgate Publix which will um offer very safe affordable housing for our seniors. I think it's at 60% AMI. So um I think there's 300 and something units in there, right? Y uh you want to say something? Yeah. Yeah. I
just wanted to I just wanted to add on to it that you guys are honestly at the heart of our county mission of serving our community to create a better future. So, I can't think of anything more fitting when I when I guys brought some new people on board at the new hire orientation and I just thank them
because you guys are really doing the hard work on that tip of the spear with the most vulnerable in our society and our seniors have given so much to to care for us. So, it's only right that the society would care for them. So, just thank you for committing your your careers uh to doing that. As Commissioner Wman says, we're all going
to be there. So, yep. And and um as those of us really saw it on the west side with Hurricane Helen, uh how many of our vulnerable senior citizens were impacted? It was heartbreaking. Um and um just so we're just glad we have an
agency like yours that can step in and help. So, thank you very much. Commissioner Jagger, you want to go down? Yep. And we'll stand up here. I just just want to say a couple of things. I can't thank Pasco County enough for their amazing partnership. Um Kathy Pearson, Brian Hoben, Tom Sne,
Josephine Benson, and the entire team that's not here. We couldn't do it without you. Um everything that you've said is true. We want Pasco County to be the best place for seniors to live, and so far you're living up to it. So, thank you very, very much. Um we are, however,
in a crisis situation with potential budget cuts coming as of October 1st. We need to use all of your spheres of influence to help us ensure that the federal government continues to provide for our most vulnerable and only the most vulnerable. Um potential cuts to
your transportation program that we fund, complete elimination to the utility program, um decrease funding for meals. Um, now is the time for us to work together to ensure that these seniors continue to get the services
that they need in Pasco County and in the state of Florida and throughout our country. I do want to end on a high note though because I'm super excited that we're going to be partnering on our senior affordable housing project. We're closing in on a location. Um, and
because of Congressman Billis and the support of Pasco County, we too will be building senior affordable housing in collaboration with the county. We think it's going to be a legacy project and we're really looking forward to that. Thank you all very much. Thank you. All
right, you go down. We'll stay up. Hey, stand over there by Thank you. Okay. Um, now is the time, uh, we're going to take public comment. And should we run through consent real fast? Nope. The county attorney said we have to do public comment before
consent. So, um, let me get my little script here. I do with it. Buried it. I don't know where you are. Okay. Um, so now's the time for public comment. Citizens are given an opportunity to comment on any current or future agenda
item coming before the board and on other business under the board's purview. Today's public comment will be handled as follows. First, we will take public comment from those who who are here in person and then we will take public comment from those who have pre-registered for a WebEx link and are
currently on quue. We request that when you address the board, comments are not directed personally against a commissioner or a team member, but rather directed at the issues. This provides mutual respect between board members and the public. Um, after stating your name and address for the
clerk, a threeminut timer will be activated and a green light will show on the podium. After two minutes, a yellow light will indicate you have one minute left. And when your time is up, a red light will be displayed. Three beeps will sound and you should close your comments. WebEx participants will be disconnected automatically when their
time is up. And Madame Clerk, can you uh read the first name, please? Sure. Um, yes, Madam Chair, I'm going to go read the first three so you know the lineup. So, when one person's done, just come right on up. So, we have Alexandra Lewis, followed by Candace Alieri,
followed by Mike Mark Alfieri. Miss Lewis, state your name and address for the record, then you can begin. Alexandra Lewis, 7841 Abby Brookke Circle in Wesley Chapel, Florida. I also have documents. Move to receive file.
Second. Second. All in favor? I They can hand them over. There. See what I say? We are busy. You may begin. Thank you. I'm here today as a resident of Efferson, a homeowner, a neighbor, and a mother of three active boys who spend
their afternoons riding bikes, catching lizards, and playing soccer right in our streets. Can you push that microphone up just a little bit? Thank you. Absolutely. We've created a safe community where we all know and look out for each other, and you're going to hear from several of us today, all dressed in blue. I'm speaking on behalf of families
like mine who are terrified about the plan to have Abby Brook Circle as a a part of Eper Ranch 2 CDD as a sole entrance and exit to the Elon Road JK2 town home development part of Eper North CDD. As such, I submit a copy of resolution
2025-06 declaring objection to change of roadway configuration for formal school parcel along with a petition and signatures from residents of Abby Brook Circle and Lily Arbor Way. the two impacted streets by this change, which are documents one through three and what you're being handed right now. We
understand growth is coming to Pasco County and we welcome it, but growth must be smart, consistent, and respectful to the current community. Abby Brooks is narrow, and not designed for heavy traffic. It's also where our children play because we've turned to the our streets into makeshift playgrounds since we're the only CDD
without a park. Despite there being three parks originally planned in Ranch 2, two of which were supposed to be on Abby Brook Circle, which is the last document in your packet. What's troubling about this plan is it breaks the development pattern established throughout Eperson's connected city design. Parson Hill
Boulevard connects to Sanders Tree Loop via golf cart path. Bowerb Circle connects to Blue Passing Loop, Rolling Stone Trail, Biscane Lagoon, and Avon Dive also via golf cart path. Other subdivisions off Efferson Boulevard and Overpass follow similar connection patterns. Meanwhile, several
neighborhoods are not connected at all. Sentosa Apartments, Welling Blade Loop, and Rockfleet Drive to name a few off of Curly remain unconnected. The precedent is clear. Residential roads are not used to connect subdivisions. So why should Abby Brooks be the exception? Routing all traffic from this development
through our street would endanger our children and erode the character of our neighborhood. This is not a protest of the development itself, but taking a stand for our children's safety, consistency of connectivity, and preserving our way of life. There's a simple and reasonable solution. Turn the planned emergency exit on Elum Road into
the sole entrance and exit into this development. Connect Abby Brooks via golf cart path only, just like the planned connection from Ender Hills Road on the other side of the development. This approach honors the existing design of Eper, respects our neighborhood, and ensures safe and responsible growth. So
today, I ask you to reconsider this plan. Respect the president. Respect the people. Work with us, not around us. Our children deserve safe places to play. Our residents deserve peace of mind. And our community deserves to be heard. Thank you for your time and for listening to the voices of the community
that you serve. Madam Chairman, yes. Since you have a fair amount of people that are signed up for this, um this has already gotten through the process. Um it appears based on the information I
was given by planning the site plan PDP CP was approved administratively September 20th of 2024. Uh the only action that is uh pending on this project is the final
subdivision plat uh which would come to you as a ministerial action um that you cannot make changes to unless it's inconsistent with your land development code. If Senate Bill
784 is signed by the governor, u it won't even come to you. It'll be handled administratively. Um the plat the plat. Um could you So could you explain to the folks here what that means when something is approved administratively?
Well, it it a final subdivision plaque based on the case law in the state of Florida is a ministerial act as long as it complies with chapter 177 and your subdivision
regulations and its prior approvals, it must be approved. Um so the only way that the changes that the residents are seeking uh can be made is if the developer um ch asks for a change in the plan. Um
so I would recommend that their CDD and contact the developer and see if they can work something out. But at this point you you're legally bound to approve it if it comes before you. And as I said, I based on the timing, I
don't know that this one will even come to you. So I, you know, I appreciate that you're all here today. Um, and you're certainly welcome to have your voices heard, but there but we there is nothing that comes in front of us on this that we have have an ability to
stop or change by law. So just want to make sure you understand that. Right. Am I saying that right? That's correct. Yeah, it's um you know just philosophically for all the board members these are the reasons why I always say that neighborhoods need to
have connect they have to have multiple connections um to avoid um issues like this and and so I'm disappointed that there's not another one here but there is nothing we
can do about it so we just wanted you to know Madam Chair. Yeah. Just for just for clarity. So Mr. County Attorney, so this decision though made administratively has already been made. Yes. And once it's been made, you can't
change it. Otherwise, you're going to be the Yeah. The board's action was some the last board action that the that would would have been before the board was the uh connected city MPUD. When you approved that, it had
provisions in it that allowed them to change this use from school to something else. If the school board didn't want the site, they then applied for site plan approval when the school board rejected the site in 22. They got that
approval. So they have all their approvals up till up to platt and that you it's not platt is no longer a discretionary action for the board of county commissioners. Just to re certify all the decisions
that were made have been made and can't be changed. That's correct. Unless the developer wishes to come in and modified. If um if there had been a school there as was originally uh envisioned, wouldn't that school have been required to connect to Elim,
you'll have to you'd have to ask that's my issue here. I mean, I would never have let that school happen without the connection to to the um so um but but that's that has changed
and my understanding is is the land that's in front of this program this this parcel has already been sold and is under construction. So there is no possible way to connect to Elim. There is I'm sorry am I able to speak? Well, this is it's unusual for us to uh we
normally don't take comment, but there's so many of you and I understand your angst. Um well, um I don't let me ask board what you guys want me to do. What do what do you want to do? They have the right to speak. The fact of it is nothing they
say here today to us will change what's coming forward. Yeah, that's our challenge. Um did her buzzer go off? No. Okay, you can ask your question real quick. So respectfully, there is currently a emergency exit on Elim to
that the construction workers are using. There is not currently an access point off of Abby Brook Circle. It's not been paved. It's not final. Um we also believe there's a flaw in the original paperwork that was filed. The town home development is not part of Ranch 2 as Abby Brooks is. We are completely
separate CDD. There's no interlocal agreement between the two CDDs to use our roadways. uh CDD is a public road, but I don't know what is there anything we can do about that. If there is a flaw in the administrative approval, staff needs to
needs to look at that. But as I said that it's not going to come before the board. Okay. But we'll dig into that one. Thank you. Okay. Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes. Can we have uh this lady, maybe the others meet with David Allen and let's go look at this issue. If there is a flaw, let's go try to get it
corrected. Um, David is right back here. So, he is our assistant county administrator in charge of development. So, David, where would you meet with folks to go into more depth here? Because we're not going to get into a conversation with any other speaker. Downstairs is a the big room that's
there. There is a conference room downstairs. I don't know how many folks are here. I don't either, but we'll So, if you want to go down and speak with our gentleman who's in charge of development, this is your opportunity um to go down Is that for everyone or
they can speak? You anyone can speak but I'm we're not going to answer and there's nothing we can do unless you find that flaw. So got a long list. We have a lot of people here and um again there's I'll go through the list. So if
you want to if you want to have an opportunity to speak more go with go with David downstairs. All right. Next. Next. All right. We have Candace Alfieri followed by Mark Alfieri followed by Danielle Povvic. Good morning. My name is Candace
Alieri. I live at 7736 Abby Book Circle. I also have moved to receive file second. All in favor? I Good morning, commissioners. My name is Candace Alieri and I too live on Happy Brook Circle.
I'd like to express my concerns for the JK2 town homes to use Abby Brook Circle as their main entrance. I'm extremely worried for the safety of our children on Abby Brook Circle and Lily Arbor Way. Epson 2 does not have any parks and that
is why our children play in the streets. We are a small neighborhood community that feels a family. At any given moment, you'll hear children's voices, laughter, and see them playing. This street is special. It echoes a street from the past before screens and Tik
Tok. The JK2 town homes is 186 units with 406 parking spaces. Our small residential street cannot handle this extra volume of traffic. I have two hearing impaired children that would be extremely
affected by the additional car traffic on our street. Opening small, quiet street to 400 more cars a day threatens the safe and calm environment my hearing impaired children rely on. Hearing impaired children cannot localize sound and cannot hear
which direction cars are coming from. This increased traffic will put their safety and well-being at serious risk. In the last week of advocating for Abbey Brook Circle, I continue to hear, "It's too late. We are in the final stages." You may be wondering where
we've all been. I'd like to explain. We heard that our street was being used as the main entrance and showed up on October 3rd, 2024 to the CDD board meeting. We asked Mike Lawson, director of operations for Metro and our CDD board member if our
street would be used. He replied, "No, Abby Brook Circle would not be used." Mr. Lawson said that the project manager was working with the county to do a revision plan. Lawson also stated that this revision would not be denied and the developer had changed it already. We
trusted Mike Lawson's word as a member of our CDD board and a metro employee. Recently, we learned what was happening on May 1st, 2025. Many neighbors showed up to our CDD board to express our concerns. Interestingly enough, Mike Lawson was there and he
admitted that if this was his street, he'd be upset. Also, commissioners, I ask you to see Abby Brook Circle, not just as a route for cars, but as a lifeline for our children who depend on their quiet neighborhood street for their safety, connection, play, and joy.
Please let compassion guide your decision. Use the entrance off of Elim that is already existing right now as the main entrance and keep our children safe. Sure. Yeah. Okay. So, you're not allowed to clap in
here. And we're going to uh what what is it that you're wondering? Cuz I'm going to try and keep this movie. If there's truly hearing impaired, please folks, if there's if what she says correct, if there's a hearing
impaired kids on there, is it the county's responsibility to put up notice on the street or is it the CDDs? I'd have to see who the ownership of the road is, but I'm sure we can figure that out. CDD road and it would be the CD. Madam Chair, um, yes. And while we're
talking, can you put up a map of uh Abby Book Circle on Google Earth, please? Commissioner Mariano. Yeah, I think this map right here is the best one. The name. It shows you the Abbey Road entryway. Well, that's I'm wondering
what Swift Wind is. Swift Wind Drive. All right, so let's if you would just put up that picture. Let's get going. Oh, okay. And we have some time certain that we're going to have to get to after this next. All right. The p the picture
shows the where the parcel is, where Elam roads right in front of it. It's supposed to go into every road circle. I don't know why it would get approved to go through every road circle. Makes no sense to me. Um Oh, if you take a look, so you got Epson Road on the right where they're trying to connect and run that
thing through. It makes no sense to me. But their main entrance should be in and out right Elon. I don't know why that wasn't done and how this how how this was done that way. I don't even know why they would even want you know Metro would want to go that way. I I don't get it either, but I don't know what what we
can do. Um and that's what our staff's going to have to dig into. Yeah. So, folks, I I can tell you we're going to have our staff take a look at it. We're going to try to find a way to make this fixed. It's not going to be a quick fix. It's not easy fix, but I think we all see your point.
I mean, what is even the construction entrance here? So, all right. Um, we cannot take for those for those of you that are here at for time certain, we cannot take them before
public comment. We stop at 12. Um, I apologize, but we're going to try and get through this as fast as we can. But if you're here for this issue, we are going to look into it. So you all don't need to come up and speak. If you have a different something different that you
want to add to the story, feel free. But other than that, you know, if you can let us do our business, we'll we'll call you up. You'll have the opportunity to say I agree with him or you can we can say I can have everyone stand up who's in support of us looking at to see what
we can do. Uh we've got all your information. We can let you know what we find. So I'll start with that but go ahead. So can I can I speak? You can speak. Anyone can speak. I'm just trying to keep the move. I have some documents as well. Can I hand them? I'll take a
motion. Move. Second. All in favor? I similar but different. My name is Mark Alfury. Um I live at 7736 Happy Brook Circle. Um, so I can go ahead and you may start. Yes. Thank you. Um, I appreciate the opportunity to
speak before you today regarding the proposed access route for the new 186 unit JK2 town home development project. Um, I understand the importance of new housing in our community. However, I must express my serious concerns about the current plan to use Abby Brook Circle as primary thoroughfare for this
large development. Our street was designed as a quiet residential road, not as a arterial connector. The homes along our street were purchased with the understanding that this would remain a calm, safe environment for our children. Uh many families have young children and they chose to live here because of the
low traffic volume and the safety it provides. The addition of potentially 300 plus vehicles making multiple daily trips would transform the character and safety of our street. Each housing gen each housing unit generates between 8 to 10 vehicle trips per day for a 186 unit
development. That's approximately 1,500 to,800 additional vehicle movements daily on a street that was never designed for such volume. Children in our neighborhood regularly play in their front yards. This dramatic increase in traffic presents a genuine safety hazard for
these children. The original plans for Abby Brook Circle had two entry points from Eper Boulevard. The final build had us reduced to one entry point. There's no longer capacity to support two communities going through Abbyrook Circle. Um the new development, there's
a solution, you know, a simple logical alternative. Uh the new development could instead use the main access point off of Elon Road. Um, this is already designed for higher traffic volumes, can accommodate proper turning lanes and traffic signals, and would provide more
direct access for the JK2 town home residents and uh to access major thoroughares. Um, and this would also not endanger the established residential community. While accommodating growth, we should be thoughtful with respect to existing communities. The Elon Road
access would better serve both the new residents and those of us who already call this neighborhood home. Um, I also want to highlight, and it's already been talked about briefly, but um, a flaw in this project. We believe, um, Everbrook Circle belongs to the Eper
2 CDD. Um, the JK2 town home project trying to use our road belongs to Eper North CDD. As a resident of the Eper 2 CDD, I'm concerned about this another CDD using our road for their main entrance. These roads are funded by our
residents and the increased traffic would unfairly burden the community with safety issues and maintenance costs. Um I respectfully request that the I know you said you can't do it, but can you somebody speaks to the developer and require them to revise their plans to
utilize Elon Road as a main access point instead of routing the traffic through uh Abby Brook Circle? It just makes sense as you all can see. It makes sense. So I hope I hope something can be done. Thank you. Thank you. Does the next speaker have anything different to
say? Go ahead, call them up. Danielle Povich, followed by Todd Wigan, followed by Andrea Manf Freddy. Um, there's a little bit of repetitiveness, but I will try to skip
through that. I have some statistics that I wanted to bring. Name. Uh, nope. We have to have a motion first. Motion. Second. All in favor? I. should be up here. Okay. Do I go and start?
Good morning, commissioners. My name is Danielle Povich. I live at 7792 Abbey Brook Circle in Wesley Chapel. Um shall I just tell you when to go to the next slide? Okay. Um slide two, please. Um why we're here. Construction has already begun on the
86 town homes nearby our community. The current plan, as you know, directs all their traffic through our small residential street. Our street is narrow, lined with homes, and constantly active with our children riding bikes, walking to school bus stops, and simply playing outside. We're here to stop the
unsafe decision and hopefully route this traffic, not route this traffic through our family neighborhood. Next slide, please. Um, as you know, Abbeby Brook Street is 120 homes and was designed for low volume neighborhood traffic, not the main access point for a high density
development. According to national traffic standards, each town home was expected to generate about 8.2 vehicle trips per day. Multiply that by 186 units and you get 1500 vehicle trips daily added directly to our residential
road. It's not a minor inconvenience. It's a major public safety threat, especially for the children who walk, bike, or wait for the bus here every day. Um, next slide, please. Um, this is just some statistics. Florida's pedestrian
um, Florida's children pedestrian risk is among the highest. According to the National Highway Safety Traffic Administration, Florida is one of the most dangerous states in the county for pedestrians, and children are among our most vulnerable. More than,900 children are involved in pedestrian crashes in
Florida every year. And most of these accidents happen in residential areas such as our own um after during school, sorry, after school hours. Children between the ages of five and 14 are especially at risk. The exact age that's playing on Abby Brook Circle.
It's not about an inconvenience. This is real danger. Um next slide. These are local incidences. Um, just in the past year, multiple children have been hit by vehicles on residential streets right here in Pasco County. In April 2023, a
2-year-old boy and a teenage girl were struck in two separate incidences um both on neighborhood roads where families should feel safe. Then in October, a six-year-old boy was struck while trick-or-treating in Trinity, a heartbreaking reminder that even joyful community traditions can turn tragic
when traffic volumes are too high. Those are our children, by the way, on Abby Brooks. Um, these aren't rare or isolated cases. They're part of a growing pattern. I actually cut it down due to time. They're happening on streets just like ours. As traffic increases, so does the risk, especially
for the children who walk, play, and ride bikes in our neighborhoods. We are asking you to please help us intervene before our street becomes the site of the next avoidable tragedy. Um, y'all heard about the safer solution, so I'll skip through that a little bit. Um, but I I'm not sure I
heard the said there is over a thousand feet of available space directly in um in front of the planned town homes. Elam is much longer than that, but just referring to the town home section. Is that the right we're just asking you for uh do what's reasonable evidence
safe. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Does uh is there anyone else who wishes we've got a long list and and we we hear your concerns. They're repetitive, but we'll go through the list, but if you have hopefully you have something
different to add. That's all I'm asking. So, I've got Do you want me to go through the list? Okay. So, we've got Todd Wiggins, followed by Andrea Manfred, followed by Edgar Perez. You can line up behind her. Thank you. Appreciate that. Um, my name
is Andrea Man Freddy. I live in 7820 Aybrook Circle or also known as 31747 Swift Wind Drive Wesley Chap. So in the original proof we have heard of our neighborhood how we're all concerned
about our safety. In that approval in September of last year, it was the proof that the street was going to end up as an Abby Brooks circle or Abby Brooks in general. My address got changed three months ago. Three months ago, I got a letter in the mail that said you're now you
are swift green drive. Um, and just go to the post office and they'll fix it for you. Go to the DMV, they'll do it for you. Uh, call to all the people that you need to call and they'll do it for you. Turns out they're not going to do it for you. At first when I went to the
DMV, they had no idea what that was. They said, "Oh, you live in Texas." And I was like, "No, I live in Wesley Chapel." Because there's the same address in Texas with the same number, same street name that goes to Texas. I asked my friends to send me letters. I
haven't got one. I order packages. I haven't got any of that. So, I'm going back to using my 782 here at Abby Brook Circle because it doesn't exist, right? Not I think yesterday I checked it. It wasn't coming up and my Apple ID doesn't
come up. does is not a real address. Now, if this is the issue, then there is a flaw in the original request. If there's a flaw in the original request, then we could try to revisit it. Like, it's not it's not that we're just going to ignore
the fact that somebody just changed my address and now I have to take out time off by my day to fix all of this. I got two addresses. Well, do I call my lawyer and I tell him, "Oh, my will needs to go back to this address." and then go back and forth to another one. It really
is is so inconsiderate and inconvenience to me. Now, we're adding the cars, we're adding the safety, but if this is the flaw that we're going to look into it for the uh whatever they submitted in September, then let it be it because it
is labeled as the plan says Abby Brooks and mine my address was not changed to Abby Brooks. It was changed to Taylor, not Taylor Swift Drive. I see it on I see it online here as you have both addresses on the on the on your house.
So 7820 and 31747. So we've been dealing with issues with the postmaster for a number of years now. The postmaster is headquartered in Zephr Hills. Um, so I recommend that if any of you are having challenges with
your mail or your mailboxes, go to the Zephr Hills Post Office. That's where the postmaster for our our area works uh for the entire area. And uh talk talk with them. You're you're not alone with No, they gave me they're the ones that gave me a letter. I mean, I went up to
them because they knocked on my door. They gave me a letter, but I don't know because the person next to me that his address also changed, he didn't get a letter. I got one. They skipped him completely. So regardless of what's happening, if that whether my address
changed or not, it's fine if it not needs to be swift drift whatever drive. Like it's not about that. This is a United States Postal Service issue, a federal issue. Unfortunately, anything with mail is out of our county attorney wants to address this. So, but we have to be careful getting into this
dialogue. So, so this would be independent from the approval of the plan. This this would have had to have come through the the GIS department for duplicative names or something like that and there would have to have been a
resolution adopted or it would have had to have been part the plat would have had to have changed the name. Uh this is independent from the action that's go there. There there's another issue going on here with the with with the renaming
of the of this. Can she meet with David? Can he help her? Well, he post office. We just would I'm I'm going to have the the team look into this because I see several addresses different physical address. One's a one lives in Brandon, but the
rest are literally in the same area. So, okay. Okay. We will look into that. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Hold on just a second. I want to make sure that the record is correctly reflected. Um, Mr. Todd Wigan had stood and stated from the audience that he doesn't wish to speak.
So, I just want to make sure the record is clear because I have a written record that he wants to speak. So, I just want to make sure that that was Yeah. And he said he's not speaking because his points have been made. So, we appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you. So, I'm going to call up next Dixon Phillips followed by Edgar Perez followed by
Chamilleia Verbe. It's a different issue. Yes, ma'am. Are any of the other ones with you signed up to speak? So, no matter stand behind. Okay. Thank you. These are firefighters. Yes, ma'am. For the record, Dixon Phillips,
my address is protected. Uh here representing Passer County, Professional Firefighters, IFF Local 4420. Good morning, commissioners. May is mental health awareness month, and in the fire service, it's a reminder of something we've come to understand all too well. That some of the biggest risks that we
face aren't just out on the street. We know the inherent risks that come with working structure fires, vehicle accidents on the on the highway, and violent calls like the recent tragedy in Kansas City where a firefighter paramedic was killed. But we also face the silent threats. Heart attacks,
strokes, cancer, and something that's been ignored far too long. Mental health. Our members show up to work every shift knowing that it could be their last. But what many don't expect is how the job creeps in over time. The calls that you don't forget, the images
that stay with you. Sometimes you don't even know what's happening until something random. a smell, a sound, or driving through a certain intersection that pulls you right back to that call that you've had nightmares about. That is when you realize this job doesn't just break our bodies. It breaks our
minds, too. The United States Fire Administration says about 100 firefighters take their lives each year. The CDC tells us that we're three times more likely to suffer from PTSD than the general public. It's not just the one big traumatic call that made the evening news. It's 30 years of those calls that
have been bottled up and finally come out. And the worst part is that we've been trained to push through it. We don't always see the signs in ourselves or even in each other until it's too late. But Pasco County decided to do something about it, to be proactive.
We've built one of the strongest support systems in the country. Our peer support team has more than 60 trained members. We have a contract with Tampa Bay Psychology that gives our members unlimited visits at no cost to the employee. And we're currently transitioning to a four shift schedule that gives our members the mental and
the physical rest that they need. And when someone's struggling, the support that we get from our assistant county administrator JJ Murphy and HR director Barbara Henman to get them to the IFFF center of excellence is second to none. Paso County has stepped up to the challenge and it hasn't gone unnoticed.
I'm standing here today on behalf of more than 850 members to say thank you to this board, to County Administrator Mike Carbala, Assistant County Administrator JJ Murphy, HR Director Barbara Hintman, Fire Chief Ryan Gwyn, Health and Safety Chief JJ Martinez, Personnel Chief Joey
Coleman, and Dr. Benson forbased Psychology, and to everyone else who has helped make this program what it is. You've all made Pasco County a model for others to follow. You've proven that when the right people are in the right positions that real change can happen. And most importantly, you've helped
protect the lives of the people who have dedicated their careers to protecting you. We're proud of the work that we've done together, and we're even more proud to call ourselves Passer County firefighters. Thank you. And today, we have a shirt for all five board members,
Mr. Carbala and Mr. Murphy. It is our mental health awareness shirt that we you will see your pass county firefighters wearing in the month of May. So, I'd like to present them to you and see if we can get a picture all together. Um, we don't have to take a motion for that, right? How does that work? Okay. Thank you so much.
We appreciate your kind words. Okay. All right. Thank you so much. Okay. Next, we have Thanks, guys. Oh, picture. Uh, are we coming down there? Oh my gosh.
Certain are going to be here after what? All right. Okay. Say that again. [Applause] The rest of the back of the afternoon. Okay. But what do I know about my time, sir?
You can I mean if I if it's on the agenda after that's done then I can do right. Okay. Is there anyone else here to speak on something that is on our agenda? Wait on say it. Anything anybody
who is here for public comment on the current consent agenda items or the regular agenda only. you can take up that first and and continue with your business and then come back to Okay. I have to take up whoever's here to speak to some because we have to take up the
consent agenda. So, if you're here to speak on something on the consent agenda, we will take your comment. Okay. Is so no one else. All right. Then I can take up the time certain correct madam chair. Yeah, just with all the
folks here. I just talked to David Engel. Uh he was aware of it. I think he could make a comment here that might help quite a bit. Okay. But I have two time certain that I'm going to take up. But for all the people at here, if they want to go meet with David, yeah, that's a good chance to help that. Come on up, David.
There's the time. Good morning, Madam Chair and the board. David Engel. I am the planning and economic development director for Pasco County. I just want to let the board know in the audience that uh I reached out to Metro Development last night and they're willing to sit down with us and
try to find a solution. So, what we're going to do is when we convene downstairs, we're going to let people know that we're going to be getting our transportation engineering team engaged plus the master developer of the project and we're going to explore some alternative access ways to alleviate the
traffic and trip uh concerns of the neighborhood. So, um, we're going to do that quickly and we'll be back to the board with a report. Okay. Thank you so much. Just one thing. It not just alleviate, but just make sure that like traffic like additional traffic doesn't go in that neighborhood. Well, there's
only that's what he's saying. That's what he's saying. He's stating alleviate, ma'am. I mean, there's there's access there's there are things that need to be considered. So, I I would not But we are going to try our best at this point in time. Right. Right. Thank you so much. We appreciate that. Okay. So we're going to take up
our time certain now. The first one is and so those who want to go downstairs. Go ahead and meet me with David. Yeah. If you want to have more discussion on that topic, you can go down with David. If you're going to stay for public comment, it's probably going to finish.
We will consider continue taking public comment at the end of the day. Um because we break at 12 and I have two time certain. Is that correct? So you need to take is there is there anybody in the audience who wishes to speak on the two or three regular items that are
on the agenda? Anybody in the room that is here for that? Then you can take up your consent agenda and your regular agenda. Oh, what about my time certain? You're on the regular agenda. Okay. So we'll do the consent agenda first. You
have a speaker that wants to speak to this. I know, but I'm going to get finish the other business first. So, we're going to do our consent agenda right now. Uh, we have one poll. What's the poll? I don't know how you do it. You can recess the public comment as long as the public comment is not on an
agenda. We are um on the consent agenda. Commissioner Weightman has pulled C-21. Is there anyone else who is there anything else that anyone wishes to pull? Let me try and get through this and then we can take up public comment for whatever's left. So, I'm going to try and go through this really fast. Uh,
anyone else wish to pull anything from the consent agenda? Okay. Um, I will take a motion on the consent agenda. I'll take a move the consent agenda. Second. So, um, all in favor of the
consent agenda minus C21. Let's make sure I got that on the record. I I I oppose. Okay. C21, Commissioner Waitman, thank you. C21 I just pulled one. deals with our our surplus lands and how we manage that program and selling county
taxpayer own property for a buck. This this is an example where we put a bid out at $1375 and then went to bid to the street and we got a a bid offer for $4,000. So,
it just shows that we can surplus property in a proper bid form and make a positive revenue gain for the county. And we always put it out to bid before we So, I just I just wanted to to highlight that. And with that, I move
approval. Okay. Second. All in favor? I. Thank you. Moving on. Rez. Rez. Which one are we? R35. R35. R35.
This is the clerk's issue. The clerk's item. Yeah, it's not an issue. Not an issue. It's an item. That was time certain at 11. So, coming up to the podium um is Sean Ganon. He's the institutional sales and relationship
manager with uh PFM November 31, which is our um our agency that helps us with our investments. And then we also have my uh director of our financial uh services department,
Matt Lazar. Thank you. Hi, good morning and and thank you for bidding me here. I appreciate it. Um I am here as the relationship manager for your account for um from PFM Asset Management. We manage the operating funds uh short-term cash for the county.
Uh so I'm going to give a brief market update. Two slides here. Handed it back to Matt. Um, but you could progress to the next slide. Do I have a clicker? Thank you. Um, so I'll be pretty pretty brief here. I'm not going to read off the slide, but ultimately um, well again
what we do is manage the investments in short-term fixed income. So, uh, what we're looking at is safety of principal first, preservation of capital, uh, liquidity, and then yield as our primary drivers of of management. So when we think about the markets today, uh as you
can imagine, they're in a very uncertain and volatile time uh with a lot of changes that come rapidly and and uh unexpectedly. So uh ultimately uh what we're looking at now here is the impact of tariffs and what the Federal Reserve is going to do. Um because what they do
uh often directly impacts your portfolio uh the investment returns and liquidity. Um so the Fed is meeting today uh their first first day of the two-day meeting uh today and then tomorrow they should have a decision on if they're going to move interest rates or not. Uh
ultimately that will again have a a pretty direct impact on you all whether we see uh you know the investment income match what was budgeted uh planned out for um and ultimately what we expect there. uh you know we're going to talk a little
bit about the portfolio in a couple slides but just to show the yield curve here uh we have seen a a uh de decline over the month uh the months of the first quarter uh that was very favorable for returns in your portfolio again for
fixed income generates positive performance when rates fall. Um so we had a pretty strong quarter of of performance there. Um, I know we're kind of a tight agenda, so I'll pause for any market update questions before handing it back to Matt.
I don't think there are any. You can proceed. Right. You're way too tall for me. I have to look at that. All right. So, we'll go even quicker through this here. But what you're seeing on this slide, this is taking what Sean just talked about and now this is your portfolio
specific to Pasco County that uh my team that the clerk's office manages. The total portfolio for the county currently stands at $2.1 billion with a B. Um what you're seeing on this slide is deemed unrestricted. And what we're talking about unrestricted is not tied to a bond
issuance or a debt covenant. So on here uh what you're going to see in the top left that is the diver diversification of the county's portfolio. So as you can see we are not too heavy in one investment pool or one investment type. What that allows us to do is especially
when we have conversations with excuse me with Sean and our other uh investment advisors is it allows us to be both reactive which you need to be able to do right in a in a uncertain market as well as be proactive and predictive. So that really allows us to do that with the way
we've set up the funding sources. Going further down on the slide, you will see about 70% of the unrestricted portfolio is in short-term investments, which is anything under a year. Uh currently, if you look to the far right, that ranges anywhere from 25 days all the way up to
just under three months. Um what we're finding is that second line on the slide there, the Florida Palm Term is very favorable for the county. uh that is the putting in a certain balance for a guaranteed amount of time guaranteeing a certain percentage return. We're seeing
with all that we have invested about a 5% return which is well above um the benchmarks that we're seeing that we compare to on a quarterly basis. Moving down even further, you'll see those are our long-term investments and those are anything a year and above. Right now,
we're trying to find that good balance of short versus long-term. We don't want to go too far into the long term and lock ourselves into unfavorable rates, but we also don't want to stay shortterm for too long and lose out on the benefit of the, you know, having a longer out on the yield. Um, with that, I will talk
more just briefly uh before I go to the last slide I'm going to talk about is overall for the portfolio for the fiscal year, the county has seen an influx of $38 million in interest income earned through the efforts of my team. uh we anticipate uh that at least increasing
uh by another 16 million and that would just be attributed to that Florida Palm term line that you're seeing there. So all in all looking like we're going to have another good year here. Uh it's been very easy for me to have these discussions with you because we're talking about positive numbers. So uh we'll hope to keep it that way. Any
questions before I go to the next slide? I have I have a question. Sure. Um do you want to ask one first? I just I just give a comment. uh these are tremendous returns compared to what we've seen last year for previous years. You guys have moved it up gradually all the way through and you're really doing a phenomenal job. So, thank you for that.
Thank you. Um my question is to the county administrator. When when we earn this interest, what where does it go and how do we spend it? So, we do account for this uh for a certain level of returns into our budget. I believe it goes into general revenue. It's part of
your general fund depending on which fund earns the interest. Of course, it goes back into that, but we we do make accounting for for these earnings when we do plan budgets. Eric, if there's anything else to add, and I know Amy is here, if you wanted more detail than that, well, is was that a quarterly
amount? What was that amount that you the 30 that's for the first two quarters of this fiscal year? So, 38 million. Mhm. So, do you did you budget 38 million or you what did you budget for? I'm just looking for money to do things. Could be bond funds. There's this This is unrestricted. This is unrestricted.
Yeah, exactly. They could be utilities or solid waste dollars. They they go back to their fund. So in the aggregate 38 million. Wait a minute. Wait. Why would why would this money go to utilities when that's an enterprise fund if it was utilities money? Oh, depending on the silo that earns the interest. Depends on where where the money is
going, right? What fund it comes out of. What fund it comes out of. So, well, board members, do we want to see that quarterly just have a little I don't know. I just it's like money that we don't really see what happens to kind of
thoughts. We submit um well he sees it but we don't see it. I'm just saying I could show you all of it if you'd like to see it. Well, I think we would like to see it. That's part of our responsibility. I think Mr. Carbell, if you need anything from our office, we're happy to help you. Okay, you can go
next. Okay. All right. If I click the right button here. There we go. All right. So right now I was talking about being reactive to market uncertainty but also have being able to predict uh my crystal ball isn't as crystal clear as it usually is. So what we like to do on this sector analysis is we like to make
sure we are not only aligning with Florida statute which talks about you know safety of principle liquidity and obviously maximizing return but also in the investment policy that the county adopted and what we're seeing here in the gray bars that is the restriction limit per the investment policy shaded
in blue is where we currently sit overall. Um what you're seeing is we're well below all the limits which is amazing um because what it allows us to do it allows us to be free to make decisions which are best for the taxpayers and for the county. So we really like to see those blue bars be as
low as possible. Um it it really allows us to make great decisions which uh you know as Commissioner Mariano stated we're able to see those returns accelerate. We're able to make very very great decisions and collaborating with the board makes it much easier as well. So, um, with that, I will stop for any
other questions before I give it back to I I I want to say also, great job, especially with what's been going on in my retirement fund account. So, um, good job. Do you want us to manage that? Yeah. Well, state of Florida's managing it, but um, okay.
Um, if it's okay with you all, I'd like to skip to the last page here. Sure, I'm okay. Second last page. Um just to talk about returns for for the the portfolio that we manage. Um as you saw on the previous slide, uh Matt mentioned that there are a lot of uh liquidity vehicles
that you use. This is kind of the the maximize return component. You know, once safety and liquidity have been achieved, uh we you know, we manage an additional longer duration portfolio for you. Uh and just look at the past quarter uh 1.6% return on a a the one quarter, right? So over a 3-month
period, uh, you know, very favorable returns just because of the the dramatic movement downward in interest rates. Um, over the past year, uh, 5.67% return, uh, for for this this piece of the portfolio. Um, so very strong returns for for this portion. Uh,
as Matt mentioned, um, you know, 38 million over the past uh, six months, just over this past quarter, you know, this this sleeve made about 30% of it returned, you know, 7 million. Um, so very very good numbers, very strong returns uh that we've seen. Much nicer
than than the negative numbers when interest rates are rising, but um ultimately it's in a in a pretty good spot. I just wanted to clarify, Mr. Ganon. Yes. So the 7.4 in the quarter return is is would be in addition to the portfolio
that um Mr. Lazar is managing. So it's it's it's additional. That's more. Oh, so this is also unrestricted revenue that but we we have um we have some money that my office manages for the county and then we utilize uh PFM to do
other investments go out longer term than our than our office does. Yes. Thank you. So I wanted to make sure you understood that it's additional. Okay. Thank you. Um and the last slide here is just of that longer duration
portfolio just looking at the acrual based earnings. So different way to kind of account for them not taking into account market value movements. Um but ultimately I know press for time so I'll pause there uh and see if you guys have any questions about the portfolio, the returns, the markets, anything like
that. Any questions? No. Great job. Great. Thank you so much. Thank you. All right. Now we're going to take up the other uh time certain time certain R36 R36. Good morning. Carrie Roberts, purchasing director for the county. We're here
today to discuss the protest for um the bid protest denial by the county administrator for Smart Communications with the award to inmate Calling Solutions LLC RFPLK25026 for the inmate tablet program and off-site mailing system. There's no funding required here. So the basics of
the protest is that we had put out an RFP for an inmate mailing system and we had four submissions. We had inmate calling solutions and ICI inmate communications, securest technologies and smart communications. After we did the ranking
um we had inmate calling solutions as the top ranked performer and smart communications was the number two. We held evaluation committees. Um once we issued the notice of intentional award, we did get a protest from Smart Communications. And the basis for the protest is that they do not feel that um
inmate calling solutions will be doing all of the work themselves. They said that they believe that they would be outsourcing a portion of the work. So we got together with the county attorney's office and contacted Smart Communications and verified through a signed notorized affidavit that they are doing all of the work themselves. So
today we are here because smart communications has asked us to bring this before you. Any questions for me? We have presentations from both smart communications and inmate calling solutions. Um I have no questions. I've met with you and got the lowdown on this. Yes, ma'am. All right, let's let's
you need to listen. We have we have to Yeah, we have a presentation coming 10 minutes on each side. Yes, ma'am. That's why I was trying to move on the morning. Got it. So unaware of that. Yeah. Okay. All right. Uh, good morning everyone.
Appreciate your time. Uh, I've been here for two hours now. I see that you're engaged and passionate uh, accounting with a lot of pride. Um, however, the integrity of your procurement um, is in question. And if the bid award to IC Solution stands, yes, go ahead. I'm
sorry. I was waiting for your intro. We need your name and address and who you represent, please. I apologize. Uh, my name is John Logan. I'm the owner and founder of Smart Communications. Uh we are a Tampa Bay based inmate communication uh provider. We employ 180
people here in the Tampa Bay area. This is Guy Meller who is the regional director that would be over the implementation of services at your facility. Thank you very much and proceed. Thank you. Um I put a PowerPoint together to prove the facts because that's all that really matters
here is is the rules, the requirements, and the facts. So, I'm going to run through this real quick and try and make this as least painful as possible. Um, this is an inmate tablet and mail program RFP. So, if you look, IC
Solutions has zero experience actually giving tablet and mail services themselves. I know this because we partnered with them in the past to provide the services. They're a phone company. They're providing these services through third parties. They have done that historically and they have never provided any of these
services themselves. In fact, if you look the requirements of the service is a single web-based administrative platform. That means a single platform to operate the tablet and mail system and it says no subcontracting
will be accepted or allowed. If you look at the experience requirements, you double down on this because five years experiments experience requirements is required for these services and it says pro proposer shall provide a list. Well,
IC solutions only provided three references. Even though they have over 200 customers, they only provided three references. However, all three references, they're not the provider of tablets and they're not the provider of mail services. None of them. Colin
County, Texas. Reference number one. If you look on Colin College's website, it says the mail service is provided by Text Behind. That's a Maryland company. That is not IC Solutions. If you look at the tablets at
Colin County, Texas, they're provided by GTL. If you notice the Getting Out app, if you go to Getting Out app, takes you to GTL's website. That's reference number one. If you go to reference number two, you have Mcome County, Michigan. If you look, it says the
services provided inmate telephone system, video visitation system, inmate tablets. However, tablets are provided by GTL, not IC solutions. There is no mail service at this account. There is no mail service. And yet, it's a reference
for mail services. If you go to their third and final reference again, inmate telephone system, video visitation, inmate tablets. That's Teri County, California. No mail service. You see the mail goes directly to the
agency. Tablets are provided by GTL. Right on GTL's website. Tablets provided by GTL, not IC Solutions. All three references intentionally misled Pasco County to believe that these somehow represent IC Solutions products and
instead they represent subcontractors. All three do not meet the mandatory 5-year requirements as a single platform and as services not subcontracted to an outside
vendor. If you look even on IC solutions own website, they say we are a core business is inmate telephones. We provide through our trusted corrections industry partners other services. All other services besides inmate phones is
provided by companies like text behind and GTL. IC solutions has never done these services ever anywhere. And if you look, IC solutions response to a proposal just a year ago said text behind is our mail service provider. Well, they're supposed to have 5 years
of experience and yet just last year they were Yuma County RFP. They responded text behind processes their mail. If you look at text behind's website, text behind acknowledged that they partner with IC solutions for mail
services. If you go to the proposal that IC solutions submitted to you, their own screenshots show Tech Friends. Tech Friends is a company out of Arkansas that is a known supplier of these communication products to vendors like
IC Solutions. Pasco County reached out to IC Solutions to verify do they comply with these services and it was just a simple question and they gave a misleading answer. It says the mail service will be performed by ICS employee on our
equipment located at our corporate office. Well, that will be the first time in history that that would ever happen, which essentially means that IC Solutions is saying we're going to start a whole new line of business and Pasco County is going to be the very first site we provide these services for.
essential services for communication that are protected by federal laws to your most vulnerable people, people that are incarcerated and families of those people. And Mike Kennedy, who's here today, you're going to hear next, I hope you ask these questions directly. What
agency has IC Solutions processed mail for? It's never happened. He signed an affidavit saying they're going to do it, but that isn't the requirements. The requirements are you have 5 years experience doing just that. So if you look, they have not accepted
the RP requirements. They have no experience in providing these direct services and they apparently claim they're going to start the service themselves and Pasco is going to be their first beta site. Smart Communications, on the other hand, invented inmate mail scanning,
delivered electronically on tablets, approved electronically by staff, and we implemented it here in Pasco County first in 2016. Is now triple patented service. We were ranked second somehow to a company that's never done it. Uh that's the end of my presentation. I yielded four minutes left. If you have
any questions, happy to answer. Well, for me, my question is going to be for the next company. So, how many how many uh counties are you in in the state of Florida? 22. Um we do PK County, Hernando County, um we Penllis, we used
to do Pasco. Um, yeah, we're and we're in 29 states with around 200 clients. I appreciate everyone's time. Thank you. I mean, you're still going to be here if we have more questions. We We'll have the other presentation. Let's see. Good afternoon. Thank you.
I'm Mike Kennedy. I'm the vice president of sales and marketing for IC Solutions. Address is 2200 Danbury Street, San Antonio, Texas. I personally live in Jacksonville, Florida. Uh, but I've run the sales and RFP process for across the
country. Been with the company for 21 years. And as a matter of fact, uh, we've been serving Pasco County 21 years yesterday in some some form or fashion. So, I want to address obviously what
Smart Communications is is talking about, but at the same time, uh I want to focus on what our bid says to you and the services that we offer. The protest that I read talks about, uh that and the supplemental protest that Smart put out
said essentially that we're subcontracting uh our services out to another provider. And that's not true. I tried to throw some stuff saying that our tablet is a third-party subcontracted tablet. Again, that's not true. Like a lot of people in this
market, like all providers in this market, we do specialized hardware providers. The tablet manufacturer that we use, Tech Friends had a tablet. We approached them about a year ago. uh we came to them and we had very specific uh
software applications, needs, interfaces, uh hardware specs, uh and and various other billing, those types of things, and how it became uh and how we wanted it. We signed a specialized MSA
agreement with them, and they make that tablet to our specs. They don't make it for anybody else. It's our tablet. We buy it. We own it. We're the prime. We take essentially end to end all responsibility from suit to nuts. We install it. We provide all the service
for it. One breaks, we replace it. Those types of things. So, we are the prime. We do have a lot of experience. And that's just in the last year. You got a question? I do. When we're talking about mail, are we talking about email and not have snail mail? Yes. Well, it's it's
essentially mail comes into a a location, it's scanned, and then it's essentially provided on the tablet or other devices that an email can look at. So, you're keeping the contraband out of the jail. Oh, right. Okay. So, Madam Chair, yeah, just if we're going to
stop, let me just ask I'll get a direct question. Sure. So, it says we need five years experience of doing this. Yes. But on your three references, GTL is mentioned three times. Why is GTL in there whatsoever? Well, we again GTI
before Tech Friends was our specialized MSA provider and tech and text behind is a company that exclusively does mail scanning and OCR recognition, some other things that we contract with them. But again, we're the prime. We control the
relationship. Yeah. The mail goes to them, but we pay the bills. We do the quality assurance. Techport answers come to us. Right. So, we recognized there was a couple bids out in California that that talked about not being a
third-party provider. So, we're based out of San Antonio. And we recognize that we were going to one day, it's pretty rare, but one day need to be uh the provider of the mail service. And that's what we have set up in San
Antonio. Now, essentially what we did, let me just stop for a second. But it says you got 5 years experience doing it. Do you have 5 years experience of doing the whole thing? Yes. All right. Well, and and here's why I'm saying this because mail scanning is
done two ways. On-site and remote. Remote it goes to a a different office, not on site. We've been doing mail scanning at on-site businesses for many years where we have we supply full-time employees. They're usually called a site
administrator or now because tablets are so prevalent they're called a tablet administrator. But part of their duties is to do mail scanning on site. We've taken that essentially those scanners. Of course we got bigger ones, faster ones and we've moved those operations
into our headquarters into San Antonio and Pasco will be one of the first ones to do it but because Pasco is asking for it to be not outsourced to another provider. So, so essentially we're committing and that affidavit I'm 21
years with the company. I'm one of three officers in the company. If I lied on the affidavit and it's determined that I lied, I would be fired. So, I'm not going to put my job up, you know, for saying that I'm lying. I am very, very confident we meet the spec. There's a reason. Oh, go ahead, M. Do you
physically take the mail and send it to San Antonio? Uh, no. The mail the the families are notified and the mail is sent to San Antonio. So they're given the San Antonio San Antonio address if they're doing a hard a snail mail. Exactly. And so ultimately
what happens is is that messaging is available uh in the uh on the tablets and so 80 85% of your mail goes away and the families turned to messaging because of its obviously it's much speedier than Yeah. snail, right? Madam Chair, I'm
still having trouble getting I think a straight solid answer. Mhm. Do you have five years experience doing both ends of the business? Five years experience. Yes. Yes. We have do it onsite and we do it without
any uh sub outsourcing. You do the whole thing. No. No. We we do outsourcing on most contracts. But I think but we think what we're saying is we wanted five years of you doing it completely. No outsourcing at all. Do you have 5 years experience without any outsourcing of
this process? I I do. I do. I do and I can get that I can get those for you if you want. So why didn't they get submitted? I don't know. I have to talk to the team and see what they were thinking at the time at the Sure. So is it a requirement that when you do a submission that you put all that information in? You're not entitled to
put it in after the fact. That's a legal question. Well, yeah. I'm say if you want clarification, I can provide it. That's all I'm saying. I stand by what we got in the RFP. I know, but I've had other RFPs in the past where if they didn't have all the details in front when submitted, you can't go add them in
afterward. They have to be done at the point in time. So, I I have a question. How many How many count I'm going to ask you the same question. How many counties are you in in the state of Florida? Uh I want to say I believe it's eight. We have uh the
closest one Well, we've obviously we've had Pasco for 22 years. We've got uh Valuchia, we've got Monroe County, we've got Flaggler, we just won that one. Uh got two or three in the panhandle, and we've got there's another one,
Washington, uh County, Florida. Okay. So, so you've been doing our county for Yes, for 21 years. Um, well, I have a I have a legal question. Um, what are And I don't know
if it's to you or to our head of purchasing because I think Commissioner Mariano brings up a point. if they were required to show a relationship for five years with someone and they put madam chair the wrong people on with all due
respect I'd like you to have him finish his presentation and then you can ask questions of the purchasing director or legal counsel. Well, I mean I I've all the good stuff we we pretty much talked about. I I was pointing out I had a couple of slides based upon some of the
claims that were made in the initial RFP and it was talking about how we're not a single platform but we are. You literally sign in one time and you get access to all the services and functions of the mail and and the tablet uh system. Uh all supporting applications
are essentially controlled by us uh separately. We've uh uh there was a a claim and that we don't we're not a prime contractor. We absolutely are a prime contractor. There was a mention that we utilize text behind. We haven't
utilized text behind in over a year. The RFP that was stated earlier uh where over a year ago I said we used text behind. Uh summer of 2024 was the last time we used text behind. So, so we recognized, you know, we got to do some
of this stuff ourselves and uh it's become nail scanning has become more and more prevalent. It's more and more common and and we've recognized that. That's why we believe we have uh be a able to respond positively uh to this
RFP and others. Mr. Oakley, Mr. Wheaten, any any other questions? Okay, then I think then then we go to my question and who answers it. Um, we can start with purchasing director and then
if she needs assistance, Mr. Hail is is right behind her. Thank you. So, our question sit down. Oh, okay. Well, this is a generic question. Okay. Um, if the Well, are you done with your presentation? Yes, I am. then you can
sit down unless the board has further questions. All right. Fantastic. So I guess you know legally did ICS answer put the correct information on the bid when you evaluated it? Yes
ma'am. We feel that they answered the do you have five years experience by with their subcontractors and and that is industry standard. you don't have to necessarily do it yourself if you had the experience in the overarching contract. However, in this case, once we looked at the affidavit, it the it
seemed like they were just doing everything in-house themselves. The affidavit was very specific that it said in-house by your employees. So, we are um at a loss as well right now. Wait.
So, so ICS is compliant with what you were you requested their their subcontractor experience can count towards their five years experience. Okay. So then what I don't know I got lost there. So Robert
Hail, assistant county attorney. Okay. Um so to answer your first question, yes we we counted uh the work the subcontractors did for the five years. Um I think the the second issue that
Miss Roberts is raising is that some of the answers that were just given don't seem consistent with what are in the affidavit that was provided to the county. Okay, that's and and that's what we wanted to bring to the courts or to the sorry to the court's to the board's attention.
We are quite judicious. Um, so it it's it's the affidavit was very clear. Yeah, they listed the three. So, it's it's not only that it's not only that it's the the prime contractor, but it's that none
of these none of this proposed or the DPS the DPMS, which is the off-site mail service uh and services will not be performed by a subcontractor, third party or affiliate, and that seemed inconsistent with what you just heard. But what you but he said he could
correct it, but that shouldn't that's what should have been in the affidavit, not is am I right? Am I missing something? Well, typically well, typically we're not going to consider information that's not submitted in the original RFP, right? Especially this
late. Did you want to say something to I don't know whether whether you want to point. So the issue that the purchasing director and you you have are the the
second part of the affidavit that says inmate calling solutions is the prime contractor of the DP PMS proposed and services will not be performed by a subcontractor third party or affiliate and you believe that Mr. Kennedy's
testimony to the board is inconsistent with that portion of the affidavit. Correct. Can I say something that's not what I said? We will do the DPMS in San Anton. You have to be at the microphone if you would like for him to speak. We will do the DPMS in San Antonio with San
Antonio ICbased employees. That's what I said a few minutes ago. I know, but is that what you put on your application and your affidavit? That's what I definitely put in my in the affidavit. I as you want to read it, we are not going to subcontract or third party that that
service. Is it in the application though? Is it in the RFP? Yeah, I'm sure it is. Yeah, thank this is for purchasing Mr. H. So both companies seem fully capable in
your opinion I think to do this work and uh one is a long-standing relationship with the county so kind of know how each other work and the new one is local down in Tampa and they have an extensive resume.
Um I I don't know if it's appropriate in this case or not, but I think you go back and negotiate them with either company and get a best and final. And um to me that's probably the best best
way to go here. If there is some level of a of a discrepancy, one's obviously better priced than the other. my opinion both are fairly qualified and go back negotiate and do a best and final if that's an option for um Commissioner
Mariano but I don't know if that's legal or not. that I wouldn't I would not recommend that that what is before the board is whether or not IC whether or not the protest filed by uh the other
company systems uh is valid is correct and if it is that would disqualify inmate inmate calling solutions if it's not you would affirm the purchasing director's decision to award
Madam Chair. Yeah. So, let's When was this RFP sent out? January. I'm asking staff. It was released in December. December 24. Yes, sir. Okay. So, when the when
Mr. Kennedy says that they have just ended their relation with text behind haven't used them since last summer. It tells me that there's all those years where they've been using text behind as a subcontractor. So, how can you tell me that you only
ended the relationship in July when you're supposed to have five years of not how how does that I mean that right there alone should tell me that they haven't they haven't either submitted improperly because of the data that shows what the first presentation showed
that he hasn't done it for 5 years and that's what seems like you've asked for and he just even said he only ended the relationship in July. So, I don't see how you don't step in to say, you know what, we missed it. We didn't see it. I understand how he missed it. He had to
dig in to find it. But I think you've been shown that you were told you had 5 years, but from what he's just said in the other guy's shoe before, he's not doing it right. He's not He doesn't have the five years experience. But did you say you consider subcontractors?
Yes, ma'am. With it as valid for those five years? Yes, ma'am. That's the issue. He's allowed to use have used them for the five years. They don't just they didn't say they they didn't say only you, right? Yes, ma'am. So, he's
allowed to put text whatever there. If I could maybe help clarify this real quick. All right. Let him speak. We'll let you come up. The thing is, Mr. Pasco County changed the rules of how the service
works. And due to that, you know, you had two responsive biders. If subcontracts were, in my opinion, weren't allowed to be considered, then you'd have only one potentially one bidder on this project.
But she didn't say subcontractors weren't allowed to. She said they would consider them within their experience. Listen, listener. You can use subcontractors. Correct. Pasco. Good. Okay. Let Let You may use subcontractors
to satisfy the five years of experience. However, on this exact contract, they cannot perform the services. Yes. Exactly. So, he said and that's what they said they're going to do. He's going to he used the subcontractors in the past, but to satisfy this bid, he's
going to take it all inhouse. So he did what I'm hearing is he did what she asked. So but let's hear what you have to say. I can help put this I I can help put this to bed really quickly. They provided three references in their RFP. That should all that should be considered is what they provided. Only
one of them has mail service by text behind and it started in 2022. Not five years of experience even with their subcontractors. I'm not sure if that's true or not. go back and check. I can show it to you right now.
I Yeah, I mean I think there has to be like affidavit from those companies. I mean we just can't go by right what someone says personally I think. Right. So can we uh punt this and take it up
again? Quick question. Yeah. How many references were this supposed to provide? How many did they provide? I don't have the exact number in front of me, but I do know that they did satisfy the requirements of the references when we asked for them. Did
we ask for five and did provide five? There was a date required supposed to be responded to respond from back there. Sorry. Let our purchasing director going to take me a minute to find the documents.
How long has your company been in business? ICS. You have to do at the mic while she's looking. Since uh I'm sorry, since 2002. Okay. Thank you. That's So you have plenty of five years experience. Customer, county attorney. Yes, sir. Is this a
luxury for inmates or do we have to provide this service to them? I'm going to defer to my corrections lawyer, but I believe it's required. Uh, we have to provide mail to the inmates. We choose to do it this way so
that to limit contraband coming into the jail. Mr. Hail, your name for the record, please. Oh, I'm sorry. Robert Hail, assistant county attorney. Thank you. I apologize. trying to find it in 196 pages worth of
response. I apologize for the delay. Um, did you did you look at this resolution by the Epson CB district? Could you give us a copy? Well, I I got it. I didn't um curious how that works. Disputes two
CDs. That's an old business. They've submitted call your county detention. They've submitted Mcome County Jail, the two county sheriff's office were the three that they submitted. I know. But how many did you require? Three. Oh, three, not five.
Five years experience. Five years experience from three. Yes, ma'am. Okay. All right, let's Can we hear from the gentleman? Okay. And you wanted to make one more statement and then we're going to either deliberate or appreciate I I
just my point there's three references only one of them is provided a mail service started in 2022 by text behind and I also don't understand how if subcontractors are not allowed how the experience of subcontractors is considered. She said subcontractors are
allowed. It doesn't say the RP. It doesn't say they're not. It says they're not allowed in the RP. Can we see that statement? It says they're not allowed for this contract. Yeah, for this contract. But you could use them as references, which is what
they did. Is that correct? Yes, ma'am. Okay. So, we're making a change. Can you see that into the record? I'm sorry. Yeah. Yes, ma'am. They can use subcontractors for their past experience but in this case they cannot use them to
perform the services under this contract and they have agreed to perform the services. Yes ma'am. So I I see that he complied. I'm sorry that guy complied. Yeah. Um you know I'll take that's the way I see it.
Um, wish we could split it in in two, but um, how long is the contract for? Would be a three-year contract with two renewal options for a total of five years. Okay. Unilateral or bilateral. What What does that mean? Can the board
is my decision? It comes to the board. Well, the question is are the are the renewals automatic or so so it's three-year contract and if both parties are happy they go on for another year and then another year correct and did
you ever find out the information you were waiting on but she has but I I don't think it's relevant um um to the purchasing director this um doing it all in house is there a reason why we're pivoting to
that since it may not be industry norm. That decision was made by the corrections department. I have Chief Jenkins with us. Sure. Let's hear that. Stacy Jenkins, chief correction officer. So, with regards to um the tablets, um
tablets are typically utilized for inmates to submit requests to keep paper paper out of the facility. Um it prevents uh opportunities for for fire uh having paper in there. So, we we've gone to a tablet system quite some time
ago. With regards to the electronic mail, that's to keep contraband out of the facility. So, I understand that, but why are you saying one company has to do everything rather than have a subcontractor now? That's the change in this
contract. So, there there's there's just a preference if you have a problem to be able to go to one individual and answer in in order to answer all your concerns. So, that was just the preference. Okay. Well, and um I'll take a motion, but I
feel like I'll move the ICS did answer it correctly. I second the So, the motion is to affirm the purchasing director's decision and reject the protest. Right. That's my motion. And there was a
second. And we got a second. Okay. Any more discussion? Okay. All in favor? I All right. Sorry, guys. Thank you, ma'am. Okay. So, we are adjourned for lunch and if there's more public comment, we'll
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There you go. Hello. That was for those three right there. Okay, we are back in session for our afternoon. If you have not done so, please mute your phones. We're going to do a little something a little bit different today because we had quite an
unusual morning. We're going to continue with public comment. So, if anyone was here this morning and didn't get to have your public comment on um this is not on items that are up for this afternoon. This is to continue the public comment
that we had this morning. So, does anyone here want to address the board that didn't get to get their moment this morning? Wow, this is a a pleasant surprise. I've got a very very important thing to be at
and I thought I'd have to be waiting. Jim Mariner, uh 30409 Elim Road, West Chapel, Florida. And uh I don't think I have to be sworn, do I? Okay. All right. Public comment. All right. Uh well uh first of all uh that
all that business this morning with the one one way in one way out with the development coming uh I agree completely with those folks and and my point has been for years is that we've got to look
at the overall picture. So it was designed that way. It was approved that way. you how many steps did it go through where everybody said, "Oh, this is a good idea." And then now they're looking at putting the the uh
entrance and exit on Elim. That's part of the cascading effect that every decision that y'all make uh affects people. So, okay, great. Now there's 126 people coming out on Elim
and increasing the traffic there. Um I I do live on Elim. The speeding is terrible, the driving is terrible. Um and it's just more and more and more. Uh one of my questions uh is with the traffic studies and and the like. And I
I actually came here to speak on two uh of the issues on Pasco Road uh development. Uh one is which I I saw the traffic study was done in uh August of 203. what's happened in the past year and a
half. I mean, the the the the patterns have changed, the number of people that have lived here have changed. So, some of the stuff that we're we're dealing with and we're looking at that as an individual uh uh an individual number
based upon that snapshot in time. But what's happening is six, seven, eight different developments are doing the same thing looking at the same number. they're not kind of going into the pot and it's not like you have, you know, a
capacity of 500 cars. So, right now we're at 400. This development adds five and they go, "Oh, it's only 405." And then the other development adds 50. Oh, it's 4 and 55. It's not adding and and being added in. So when you're making
decisions like this, like reszoning the uh the agricultural uh portion of uh Old Pastor Road, which I think Mr. Waitman and the board, and I think you spoke out about it before, there was a previous um
uh item or development that had tried to go in and and you said it's incompatible. It may have been on the on the east side of of old Pasco, but in general, I don't
remember, 106 town homes on that property, that equestrian property. Um, it just there's it's a perfect area to step down it. So just let's please
keep in mind that everything that you do affects other things and your time is up. Um I I think I do think though that we do add all the different developments. They all get into the mix when we're looking
at traffic. They don't. Huh? They don't. Well, there's there's the transportation expert sitting over there. So we'll ask him when he comes up. Okay. Um who's next? I have Dr. Kirk Phillips. Do you have something you want to be distributed? Okay. Um, I'll take a
motion. I move or second. All in favor? I. Madam Chairman, council, good morning or afternoon. I'm here for nothing more than to give you awareness of what we've been doing. Just your name and address
for the record. Oh, I'm Dr. Kirk Phillips, also known as Captain Kirk, 2031 Waterview Drive, Holiday, Florida. I'm here with the Pasco Coastal Improvement Council, a nonprofit citizen organization. All morning. Yes, ma'am. I think I might
have got confused with another group. I just wanted to give you an awareness briefing. It's very simple. It's an executive summary of 60 years of research and analysis of the 24 miles of Pasco County's coastal regions and what has
happened. It's specifically focused on the past 17 years when technology advanced where we can better understand the implications of what's happened to our waterways and our flows. I'm not here about the manatees, the fish, the
grass and all that, the scallops. I'm here on infrastructure resiliency, flooding, insurance costs, and tax implications of this. Mr. Paul Bbeby handles the other side of it. The bottom line is you can see the front
picture. All eight water basins of Pascal County are impaired both with silk and chemicals. Zero slip permits have been applied with the EPA to take any corrective actions.
The recent flooding and events that everyone keeps saying is once in a lifetime and all that stuff is really because what's happened over time by no intentional fault. We created a delta similar to New Orleans. So now when we have weather
events, the water can't escape. It's basically, if you think about it, we're trying to fix the drain. We're trying to fix some of the sewer pipes, but we're not focused on the big plant that has to process it all. That big plant is clogged up. That in turn is creating worse conditions for our roads, our
flooding, etc. when these storms come in. The events aren't getting worse. It's we're not maintaining and improving as the county grows and expands. So, I want you to look at this. I was at the meeting last week. Uh me and Jerry was
actually sitting behind you. Jerry's with uh Congress Congressman Bill Rack's office. We're both retired Air Force. And I heard about Anlo Island and I wrote a note. That was me. Yes, I was trying not to mention names, Madam Chairman, but I I wrote a note and hand
it to him and I said, "We're already talking to the federal agency about that." That would be a federal and twocounty approach. But when you look at Gulf Harbor, there's a cause and effect. When we do something, you have to take that silt and debris and move it somewhere that fixes the long shore drift, which has been disrupted. And
that's the ultimate goal of what we're trying to repair from Crystal River to Tarpon Springs. correct the long shore drift and then mother nature will naturally repair herself a lot. If we do both harbors like we mentioned it will naturally shift silk back out to Anklo Island and we don't have to rebuild
Ankllo Island. This is all evidence-based. All we're doing as a group is stepping back and looking at it and trying to work with the cities and officials and say we're here to advise you free of charge. Anything we can do, we're here to help you. And Paul, I want
us to pay attention to this. I really, really do. Dr. Go ahead. So next week in DC, I actually had the National Geospatial Agency run the models to show me the silt shifts over the past 17 years to validate all this. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.
M. Thank you. And I I mean, is here to talk to me? I don't see Dr. B, but this is public comment. So, um, but I know that I want to talk to you about doing something about this. Okay. And I bet Commissioner Young does, too. So, okay.
Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor Jen Carowak. Thank you. Pastor Jen Carowak, 15925 Green Glenn Lane, Spring Hill, Florida. When I first uh came to speak at a at a board
meeting, I brought forth Galatians 6 beginning at 8. For he who sws to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption. But he who sws to the spirit will of the spirit reap everlasting life. And let us not grow weary while doing good. For in
due season we shall reap if we do not lose heart. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all, especially to those who are of the household of faith and those here today. And so I just want to share with you and
I've I've got some photos that I brought. Um I've attended these meetings attempting to work through, you know, being respectful of and appreciating the pledge of allegiance. That that should remind each of us that we are one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all people. The justice not necessarily being to accommodate the wants of everyone within the business of Pasco. We certainly couldn't do that. I would have a whole
lot, but what is just for all parties. I began attending to advocate for the families and residents of Shady Hills. And I am advocating today and implore you to address the perception that there is a lack of fairness and
equality, justice to the people of all the people of Pasco County. And I stand before you today continuing to advocate for those unanswered questions to receive answers and most importantly for the safety of Pasco County residents. On
April 1st, 2025, between 5 and 6:00 p.m., I witnessed at the corner of Green Glenn and Shady Hills Road, there was a young man in the road and he had been hit. And this was a chain reaction as the result of one accident at Softwin
and Krella Drive and Shady Hills Road. And it continued down until there was a young man that was hit and unfortunately he passed away. Beyond that, as they were not able to get in, there was issues with getting public safety in.
Um, you know, not that the folks in public safety don't want to do their job, but obviously they do. They wouldn't do what they do. And unfortunately, there were within 45 minutes four accidents. And as we continue to build in Shady Hills,
especially town home developments, one going behind Cruz Lake and another application that I understand was recently submit submitted off of Old Shady Hills Road. I ask that with with great concern that you certainly would
make Shady Hills Road the widening, not just a sidewalk. And I appreciate the sidewalks. Um, we need crosswalks if we're only going to have a sidewalk. There are four schools, the first one being there in 1974. And yet, the only improvement to
the road, they're very minimal. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Sorry, these pictures are horrible. I have Edgar Perez, Michael Pre. Good afternoon. Michael Purak, 9152 Kenton Road, Wesley Chufflele 33545 in
the great state of Florida. First off, I want to let you guys know I appreciate all of you. I do. And your team, your your directors out here. I really, really do. I know it's hard to see sometimes, but I appreciate all of you. And I appreciate all the work they're doing for you. There's one
thing. I'm probably known as the park guide, you guys know, but um Eper CDD, I did want to point out that they have no park space in their entire CDD. And um I'm going to move on to a bigger issue beyond the parks here because in
November of 23, you guys voted for uh resoning for an MPUD. It's called Kenton MPUD. 800 residences on 148 acres. And you were bamboozled. And I'm going to say that
straight up. We have the emails. They're here all the way back from 2021. where planning directed. Let me let me back a step. Uh madam, when I came and met with you, the planning division was there also and I brought up an MPU where the planning division told the developer,
you have to increase density. And we were told unanimously that would never happen with this planning division. So from 2021, this email right here from the developer to the planning division, wow, you blindsided us. We didn't know that the increased density was going to
be requested in this location. That's because it falls in the community hub. It's only supposed to be medium density. There's not supposed to be any high density in this area. Okay. Twice. And I'm going to flip because I only have a minute 27 left. I apologize. Twice the
developers engineers was trying to clarify with the planning division that you want high density. You're going too fast for me. I know. I'm sorry. You only gave me three minutes. Just email that to me. Yes, ma'am. I will. community hub. We're only supposed to have medium density and intensity for residentials.
There's not supposed to be any apartments in this hub. Here's the purpose and intent. Why is that important? Because even though part of your planning division up here to the planning commission under oath said the comp plan is aspirational, here's your
actual land development code. All CCMPud development applications shall be consistent with the intent and policies of the connected city comprehensive plan. We've got a little problem here. I looked up the word aspirational in both the land development code and
the comp plan. It doesn't exist. There is no aspirational in either of them. Here's the list of highdensity apartments that have been put into the connected city in the three zones that were not intended to have high density. It was supposed to be medium
density. There's been times in the past, and I very much appreciate Director Engel. do, but he's been handed some some wildfires to try to put out and fix. This morning was a perfect example, and this is another one. We need I have three requests from you in 5 seconds.
The first one is I need you to please go back. The site is not approved by the planning division. I need you to go back to the developer, give them back what they originally asked for, which was single family residentials, which meets the comp plan in the land development
code for this district. The second thing is it is in the land development code in the master plan that the connected city will have an advisory board that will be made up with residents of the connected city. It is time we do that so that
there is another layer of protection for you because a lot of these things coming through could be absorbed and brought to your attention and your staff to create motion and fixes without it having to be here and without like the group earlier having to get attorneys involved in
lawsuits. These things are unacceptable. They're unacceptable. Um can you your time is up but can you send me your site plan? I mean your um presentation. Send it to all the commissioners. Yes, ma'am. Thank you all for your time. I appreciate you very
much. Thank you, Jennifer McCarthy. I do not see her approaching. Tanya Riddlesworth, she had to leave. Thank you. Bri, she's not approaching. Francis Silva. Okay. Not approaching.
Andrew um Aieri approaching Dr. Iman. Okay, thank you. Sarah Gonzalez. Okay, she is. Um someone make a motion please to
receive and file. Yes, I actually these legal documents. Someone make a motion. I did motion and we got a second. All in favor? I thank you. Thank you very much. Um this is for the
main for each start with those pictures. All right. Thank you. Um so name Sarah Gonzalez, 1667 Albright Road. I'm here to enter more evidence in code enforcement complaint filed by Tom. Petition
32525. First call in 1017 inoperable vehicle no violation. 111717 dumpster 12417 commercial vehicle first responded to truck on call. 2018 rented a parking
for tow truck monthly cost 5 miles away. 22 21218 inoperable no violation RVs recreational vehicles 314 N op vehicles same ones no violation 72418 commercial
vehicle family in town 3 days it's a RV 9919 commercial vehicle first responder on call no truck there when code got there this morning 700 a.m. Tom in front of our house in PJs taking pictures. Called Pasco Sheriff's file false report
of violence against husband. Code showed up heard deputy tell the Tom to leave homeowners alone. It is in the code report on 12920. Commercial vehicle first responder on call. Tom called job
harassing Pasco Towing. 21020. Husband went to courthouse file petition versus Tom Boglanum. Stalking. No choice for harassment. No, no court appearance. He went back later in the day. Discuss decision was allegations do not meet criteria for stalking. No choice for
harassment. 22020 commercial vehicle closed COVID first responder 2020 to 2021. Preferred to start paper trail by code enforcement. 11:1421 emailed Mariano's office about Tom shot down referred private civil
matter. 123 N23 inop vehicles RVs no violations. 2223 inop vehicles. Same vehicles from January. No obligate. No, no violation. 623 24 in vehicles. RVs. Same thing from 2023. Same ones. 421 of
25. Same thing. Another report. Same vehicles. No violation. At this point, if you would look at the police report that you all have in front of you, we need to have someone in code enforcement or commission to tell Tom to leave us alone. This has harassment has caused
financial burden, stress, anxiety, depression with most being nonviolation. Tom's wasting taxpayers money for the 30 plus code enforcement to do their job. And Jack, I and I have spoken on this behalf uh before in briefly in civic
association meeting. He handed me his card and said, "Call him to never get an answer. Refer to code 530-5 C.5 for RVs." This is an exa a continuous harassment. We are constantly
in code. Please refer to the pictures that I handed you, the first set of pictures, if you wouldn't mind showing to him. I've got six seconds left. I would like you to flip through those pictures. These were taken this last report. And if you look at the property, Patrick came in my house the other day
from the Phillips. He came out. I asked yesterday actually. Matter of fact, I asked him if Okay. And your time is up. My time's up. I'm sorry. Either way, those pictures, if you look to them, they were taking. We moved our stuff on 12. Ma'am, your time's up. I know. I just want to make sure. Did you say your
name and address for the record? Yeah. Sarah Gonzalez 16677 Albbright. Thank you. 16670. 16677 Allbright Road. It's also in the email I emailed last night because I have a copy of everything. Did you guys get the pack? You want to pass it down
that way? Then then this pack goes to the clerk. Okay. Thank you. Next. Yeah, that's all I have that's signed up. Um, is there no one on WebEx? No one's on WebEx from this morning either. No one else audience. Okay. If there's anyone else here who would like to address the
board, please come on up and line up. Come on up. Hi. Um, Daffany says, "I just wanted to come before you." Ma'am, we need your addresses. 16230 Cranland Drive. Um, I just wanted to come before you today to
let you know how much I've been let down by the county. My perception that every email, phone call has either been ignored or not cared about. I trusted Pasco County officials thinking you were helping me out
when you already had no intention of helping me through this hostile taking of my property by a developer. I've been told by commissioners and others that staff messed up, but you all didn't fix it. You let them continue to violate my
rights as well as my property. Um, I beg that you speak with me to undo the mistakes that Pasco County staff made allowing developer to take my land. Um, you know, they have an emergency
exit by Mary G. Their address is 14934 Shady Hills Road. Um, they said that they were houses to buy. Now it's rent. It's going to be section 8 going right through my property. I can't sell my
house. I'm not worried about flooding. I've I've been contacted by David Engel. I'm not worried about flooding. My home's trashed. I have cracks in my roof. I have mold
and I have a I haven't mowed my yard. I mowed once last year. I I haven't mowed this year. I don't care about it. It's not a house or it's not a home. It's a house. we are screwed. We can't sell. We can't do anything. And it's totally
illegal. That is not They cannot take that for a uh their Ingress Egress main exit. That is a Ingress Egress for utilities. I pay taxes on it. What was the address again?
16230 Ka Drive. How How you spelling that? C R E L A C Krilla Crea Crea Drive. Okay. Crea Drive. Okay. And it was zoned to
be 10 homes on 19 something acres back in 2001. And this developer just came in and keeps changing stuff. There's names changed, things marked out, and no no
signatures next to it. Gills. It's the Gills family that sold it. So, I'm just I'm just like I can't even sell my house. I've I've been up and been in front of everybody. Jack's been nice enough to
come out and check it out, but I mean though I've it's been over a year and I've sat here and wasted my time because I thought the county was going to help me, you know, and nobody it's
just running out the clock to where they landlocked themselves. I've got them flying down the road. I'm working 24/7 365 Thanksgiving. So, sorry, your time's up. Um, I don't know what we can do on that one. I think we staff's met with her.
Staff messed up bad. Yeah. Well, um, Carbala, I don't know if you want to talk to me about it. You were going to talk to me, but you put me away. But it wouldn't be it wouldn't be right now. So, okay. Maybe he can reach out. I don't I don't know what the answer is on that one. Jack, that's your district.
I've had David Allen out there. JP Murphy out there. They've not done anything. Okay. Well, we can't solve it from here right now, but Mr. Allen, you're going to meet with her or are you going to tell us what the issue is?
She has been advised that this is a private matter. It's a civil matter. Okay. It's a civil matter. Is that what you're going to tell us? Uh well, Chair, uh David Allen, assistant county administrator of development services. We've reached out several times to have
a meeting um with with the resident and we still have an open invitation that that we would go out and meet with her. Oh, you have not met with her? But that was about flood, not about Okay. Well, he doesn't do flood. He does development. Um Okay. Is there You want
to come on up? So, y'all know my name and address. I'm not going to say it, right? Nope. You got a kid. Nancy Hazlewood 34110110. A nice place. Um, y'all have a lot of heavy things in front of you. Uh, and I
know that in your wisdom you'll come to the right answers. I I just want to remind you of the Northeast Royal area plan is still there. And the history behind it was that we heard that 40,000 units were
going to be approved in between Dade City and Zephr Hills. We started going nuts in the northeast rural area and the county in their wisdom said, "We'll give you the northeast rural area plan in exchange and it can be rural." So, we've
been fighting to keep it rural ever since. And I I'm hoping that maybe we can do some things to help keep it rural. I've got an idea or two or three. One of the things is pvious surfaces. I understand there are about four
different areas out there to do it. And one of them is the the grass with the rocks or not the rocks, but the blocks in between it. And then there's apparently one that's plastic and another one that's asphalt.
But I think the northeast area is going to be your saving grace for water if you don't overdevelop it or put huge amounts of development in. You've got it's the high recharge area, the Brooksville Ridge and the Green Swamp right there.
So the pvious surface I would recommend this shell. The other one is for maybe walkways and parking lots for it. And I was thinking also since you've come up with tiny homes, let's switch it from
doing huge homes on small lots to large lots with small homes. But again, lowering the density and saving your natural resources to help out the rest of the county. Thank y'all. Thank you.
Okay, I think that's it. I have no one else signed up. And we have no one online. No one's online. Okay, we'll close public comment and we'll go to our 1:30 meeting. And the first one up is P38. Item P38 was published in the Tampa
Times on April 16th, 2025. I think my mic was off. Well, do we do that? I was like, why can't I hear myself? All right. Item P38 was published in the Tampa Times on April 16th, 2025. Thank you. Good afternoon, commissioners, chairman. So, P38 was
pulled. We're going to pull up further discussion. Does he have to say? Yes. And this is an ordinance, so it's not pulled. It's It's your presentation. Oh, yes, sir. What do we What do I think I should give your name in the department? I'm sorry. Jerry Williams, public infrastructure, fisc fiscal business
administration department. Thank you. Okay. PIPA 2550253, an ordinance by the board of county commissioners, Pasco County, Florida, dissolving the Fox Ridge Municipal Service Benefit as of December 31st, 2025, and providing for an
effective date and applicability. Does everyone need a full presentation? Absolutely. Okay. Um I'm sad that they're doing this personally, Madam Chair. Yeah. So, I'm going to say I I don't want to see this go, but I'll I'll listen to the projection. There's a lot of storm water stuff still to be done
out there. Uh you've got money in it. I think we should be looking to try a way to fund it. Let's go study this thing and bring it back to us to study what are the storm water projects left to do, what's the cost going to be, and then how can we go look at getting funding for it. Well, I heard they have a whole
bunch of money in that state. They do. Why don't they put their power lines underground? I think they want I don't think they want to stop flooding first, but either way, let's let's hear a presentation, but All right. So, you and I are kind of alike. So, my apologies, commissioners. So, on
uh November 13, 2024, so the advisory board met. They discussed the possibility of um stormwater improvement projects and also the possibility of dissolving this. So after further discussion they came to the determination that they did not want to pursue the additional uh swimwater
projects. They wanted to dissolve and receive refunds for the available fund balance. So the um where is this? I'm sorry ma'am. Would you like me to show I'm talking to myself. I just want to find out where it is. I I don't know
where Foxid is. We got a lot of foxes in the county. What's the chapel? It's on the south side of 54 near Okay. This is the old Pasco Heights Road and Bridge District, which is why which is
why the MSBU was created in the first place was to because the Pasco Heights Road and Bridge District was defunct and the county had to step in and take it over. All right. But I'll hear the presentation like Commissioner Mariano
asked and then we'll jump into it. So the MSVU consists of 11.51 road miles, 610 ERUS, and 755 acres. And this is a uh a map depicting the boundaries of the MSPU. And what we uh what we'd like to
do is uh recommend accept public comment and adopt the uh proposed ordinance. Commissioner. Yeah. So I I was I was asking staff for I need I need more information. I want to see the project etc. I think they're reacting to an advisory board. Now keep in mind this
thing has been in place for many many years. How many years? I think uh it was approved in 200 I think was 14. Okay. So with all that said they've been collecting money trying to do these projects. They have I think this advisor
was the desire to end it. But all those people that wanted this since 2014, they were here in this in this very office very uh commission and just saying how they wanted to get this stuff fixed. We had projects together. We had a team going out there. I was out there when they're digging the trenches, cleaning
some stuff up that needed to be maintained. There's solutions out there to get this fixed. There's like a classic infill that they're, you know, they've been they've assessed themselves. You know, we've put the MSB in place. It is a great project to finish, but we need to finish it. We
can't end it now. And all those people that have contributed over the years to put this money in to get this done should have the project. So, what So, what is it? There's There is a storm water There's a storm water plan. If you talk to the plan, that'd be great. Maybe Jason could.
Uh, good afternoon. Um, commissioners, Jason Ml, public works director. Uh, yeah. So, we we've been working with this community since 2014. Um there there's a couple different items that they'd like to get done in the community. Some of it storm water conveyance, some of it was um paving of
the roads. So, they had they had charged themselves to make some decisions with where they wanted to go. Um when we gave them an estimate on approximately what it would cost for the stormwater plan, it was a lot more than they had collected. So they decided at that point that but that doesn't mean they don't
have responsibilities for their ponds and where's that money going to come from just cuz they dissolve their little HOA or whatever doesn't mean the rest of the taxpayers are going to pick it up. So I would be 100% against getting rid of this if that's the way that community is going to be able to fund their storm water cleanups.
So, as a as an option, um if if it's okay with the board, public works could take the lead in meeting with the community again, um and assessing our plan and what we could possibly do with storm water. Maybe there's some options for some funding um that we could we
could provide and then take a look at what else could be done. Now, remember, we do have an MSTU, right, to do the road paving. So, they don't have to they don't have to put it towards the roads, but they can put it towards fixing their storm water ponds. Yep. Exactly. I think we should put a plan over the
place, but let's let's full let's see the full presentation of what's to be done, what can be done. Uh then maybe even put it contingent upon when you get the storm water done, we'll then put the uh road project into the network. Um well, Madam Chair, yes. Can I So you got
to go back and I'm not disagreeing with with either of the commissioners, but the historical framework of this was This land was cut up and subdivided and all its infrastructure was supposed to be put in by the Pasco
Heights Road and Bridge District. It was not a county responsibility, right? That was not done. They didn't maintain their roads. When the road and bridge district disappeared, state told us we had to
take it over as the local government of jurisdiction. County attorney's recommendation at that time was to create this MSBU and at least get them up to a level playing field with the rest of the county network. Once we get them there, it would make
sense to dissolve them and put them into the into the stormwater utility. I mean, they are in the stormwater utility, but have storm water maintained and the roads maintained
based as everybody else has. But to my knowledge, they haven't been brought up to any kind of a level of standard for the county. They've just been collecting money out there. And then that's why I didn't want to see this thing get dissolved, knowing the passion of the people from 10 years ago, how much they
want to get this done. Yeah. And we kept it going. I mean, there's regular pond maintenance that subdivisions have to do that cost money. And how else how else are they going to collect the money to do that pond? They have ponds. How how much is in the fund right now?
It's it's over a million because just just a little over a million. So, can't they start pond by pond cleaning it up? Just to just to clarify, there is more than just pond maintenance out there. A lot of the conveyance has been overgrown. Well, they got to start fixing it.
We can increase the MSPU so it gets fixed. Well, Madam Chair, I I'll caution you a little bit with with the response you may get back because this is abing to a meadow point community. They're saying that when Medo committed, it actually made it worse for them. So, I think it's we just need to take step by
step and let the liberal study look at it. And I and I I frankly think that we should be looking to the state uh as for matching funds with the million dollars we got, maybe another million. Now, it shortens the gap up. Maybe makes it affordable and maybe they say, you know what, this is worth doing. But I think we need to really take a little close look at this rather than dissolve it.
Let's go look at it. Go back to the people. Go back and study it. Get the state rep involved. Get the state senator involved and find out what we can do. Because as you know, Senator Burgess even says, we want to see these things done. Let's let him look at it. Maybe he can step in and help us as well because I mean with the million dollars
and knowing these people wanted this for 10 years ago, I I think it's worth taking a bigger step rather than just dissolving this thing. Where you going to get the other matching file? That's what I'm saying. That's why I'm talking about the state. You get you get representative ma ask
the state for it. You could storm water. They do that all the time. Yeah. Why not try? All right. Well, u there may be residents here who want to speak. Um is there anyone here that wants to speak on this issue? Madam Chair, I have
no one signed up and no one on this item. Okay, then I'll take a motion. Move to move to continue 90 days. What's the mechanism to make make them spend the money?
Because ultimately they're looking for tax relief, right? That's why they're doing it so they don't have to keep paying more into the tax fund. It's pretty simple. No, if they get rid of If they get rid of their MSPU, then they all get refunded, then they're only paying the MSTU for the rope. So,
they're looking at tax relief. They're looking to try to not have to pay more tax. That's probably the thought behind this, which is a fair thought. I don't blame it. Oh, I don't doubt it. But if there's a million bucks sitting in there and it's just compounding and it still be What's the mechanism to to make to
spend this money? Can the county say spin it or they have to say spin it or what's what's the rules of this is your MSBU it would public works would be the one doing the projects. So then my question is why hasn't been public works been
going into the fund and getting some level of work done over the last 10 years 10 plus 10 years. I think Jason can probably speak to that. There's just been a number of um I guess I'll just use chicken and the egg sort of conversations. They relate to roads.
They're going to want to get rid of it because they're not seeing any action until they get flooded. Then they What happened? These folks have been living. They know what they're living. They know where they're living. They understand their community and the lay of the land literally.
So, but Commissioner, if I could, Commissioner Wman, keep this in mind. We were here with the public hearings in this and they were all complained about the flooding, the flooding, the flooding. The reason the MSP was created is to solve those things. Now, they haven't maybe haven't done the assessment high enough for it yet. But
again, waiting for the projects to be brought. I think now is the perfect time to go look at everything. These people put themselves in the position of we had to solve it. This was the solution. We just haven't executed yet. We need to execute it before we dissolve And you've not been here when we've solved it this
way, but this is how this got solved for your golf course community and they're flooding. Timber Timber Oaks. Exactly. MSBU. I understand. My question is why hasn't the county taken the funds and put the
funds to work now when it's triple the cost today than what it was over the course of time? Yes, sir. So my my understanding but I would just defer to uh to Jason. So the the requirement to get them in a better situation in terms
of storm water runoff was going to be happen in several phases. So I believe a single phase has occurred but additional phases would have had to happen and those additional phases would have caused an increase in their assessment. So they made the determination based upon estimated costs to pause.
So, I use the analogy, how many traffic accidents need to happen before they get help, before they get a red light. That's the same. Well, they they've adopted the MSPU adopts a payo model. So, they until they have the funds to do the next phase of the project, nothing happens. Well, then then we're going in
the wrong direction. Sorry. So, if we can't do anything with it, either give it back to them. No. Or we need to get to work because it's just going to get worse and worse and worse. the funds aren't going to keep up with the volume of work it needs at I say let's find a way to help them get it done I'm with
you yeah because they're going to get flooded I'll do and again I I I think I think we all need to go back and look at historically what happened how this all happened look at the minutes maybe get them produced for us send us the link so we can listen to the testimony was done way back when historically I think it
will be very helpful and then I I would like to give staff time to go out and study it put a financial plan together bring it back to us let's go look at it and then we can make a full good a very good decision uh to what's the best thing to do. But we don't have enough information that yet and I certainly
don't want to close this thing out now. So I'm going to move to continue. Do you think is 90 days enough or need longer? 90 days is fair. All right. So let me continue this 90 days. August the August 5th. Um your next date the Dade City meeting in the 90day region would be August 5th at 1:30 or soon thereafter.
second. Um, and under discussion, I heard you, so based on what Commissioner Whiteman said, you had MSPU and MSTU. Well, yeah, the MSTU is countywide. Wait, wait, is the local pay? Oh, the local one. Okay. So, the paving there's, right? So, they don't have to worry
about paving anymore. We just want to focus on the storm water, correct? Maintenance and whatever it is that needs to happen. So, all in favor? I I All right. Good. Thank you. P39. [Applause]
Item P39. Hold on. Let me looking for my application. Here it is. Item P39 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on March 19th, 2025 and affidavit of certified mailings and site postings.
Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh, item P39 is PD250174. This is an ordinance amending the Pasco County comprehensive plan providing for a small scale comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map 2-15 and sheet 14 from res 3 residential three dwelling
units per gross acre to res six residential six dwelling units per gross acre on approximately 18.36 acres of real property located at the northeast corner of old Pasco Road and Hadlock Drive and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal
consistency providing for repealerability and effective ive date. This comes to you with the recommendation uh from the local planning agency and the planning development economic growth department to approve approve the proposed comprehensive plan amendment and adopt the ordinance by roll call vote and
there's a presentation if so desired. Okay. Um board members, do you want to see a presentation? I would like one. Okay, let's let's roll. We'll have Amy Tol, principal planner. Good afternoon, Amy Tol with planning, development, and economic
growth. So today before you is the comprehensive plan amendment uh for old Pasco Road. It is a smallcale plan amendment. This is the adoption hearing. The applicant is proposing an amendment from res 3 residential three dwelling
units per gross acre to uh res 6 uh residential six dwelling unit per gross acre to allow for 106 platted town homes on approximately 18.36 acres. Here's the property that's located in the South Market area and
urban service area. the subject site being located off of Old Pasco Road. Here's just a context smack to give you some uh perspective of what's in proximity of the area. Uh you do have planned developments that are within a
mile radius. It is also a budding rural area 4 and there's two schools in proximity to the subject site. Uh this is the transportation network map. The applicant has agreed for off-site improvements. Um in this map, you'll notice the red area uh old Pasco
Road, a segment from excuse me from Old Mill Road to uh Sedgeway Boulevard. Uh they will be uh uh designing, permitting, and constructing the four-lane roadway on that segment. It is an off-site improvement. um that will be
set forth in the conditions of approval in the companion MPUD. Uh the segment that's brown to the south is on the existing county CIP. Here's your existing residential three future land use and your proposed RES 6 future land
use. Res six. The proposed amendment is consistent with the following comprehensive plan policies. And with that, we would recommend the proposed comprehensive plan amendment uh be approved and adopt by roll call vote. And I'd be happy to
answer any questions you might have on the comp plan. Madam Chair, yeah, the um improvements for the road going up to the road um that's done as an off-site improvement. Is there credits for that or are they just doing it? I believe it will be
subject to mobility fee credits. Applicant can answer. Barbara Wilhight 6327 Graham Boulevard, Newport Rich 34652. This is a 106 unit um project, town home project. Probably the first time I stood before you all and had a
client that would take on a project of this magnitude. We are expanding to your ultimate section which is a four-lane section with multi-use paths. Um you already have all the right way except for an easement that needs to come for a pond from the school board. Um, but your rightway is all just sitting there
waiting for this project. Because there's only 106 town homes, it's a combination when the DA comes to you, um, because there's a requirement for a DA, it's going to be a combination of credits and then the county will be putting up money to, uh, pay for the difference.
So, how much are we expected to pay? I do not have an estimate. Maybe your county engineer does. Is this coming before the project's built or after the project's built? The road. Yes. It's going to come online around the same time. We do not We have
not done the DA yet. Like I said, it's a pretty impressive improvement that we're taking on um this small project to improve your road. It'll be our road. Yes. Your road. County road. Can you go to
Google Earth in front of those schools for me? Cypress Creek High, Milan High. Um, these are all front-loaded. Yes, they are. Yeah. not my favorite. And I've let a lot of the
folks that come in front of me know that I'm kind of like putting a little stake in the ground in in in in the Trinity Odessa area, at least in the 56 54 area, that I'm not going to vote for any front-loaded town homes. I mean, unless
unless you're if you're doing a development and that and there's no way to get to the back on the edge or or some part of it, but I just I just can't take them anymore in in that area. If y'all want them in your
districts, but I just don't think they the school they're showing Cypress Creek. Well, what I want to show you here is really a frustration to me that um and I appreciate that they're working on the multi-use, but the school district is not even put in their sidewalk.
And I just think we got to make sure that when the schools are building their complexes, the sidewalks need to be built along with them. So, I have a great conversation with the new superintendent and um you know, we all are in agreement at future schools.
We need to make sure that we're taking care of these vital pedestrian resources. Well, when are they coming in and fixing this one? Because that road's getting busy. We didn't discuss existing and I think this would be taken care of with this project plans on taking care of that issue. Correct. You're building the
school's sidewalk. We are building a fourlane your ultimate section of Old Pasco Road from the school which is Sedway all past this project to Old Mill. And your four-lane cross-section includes the continuation of the
sidewalks and multi-use path. I think it might even be a multi-use path on both sides. Well, you're being nice of the school district because I pretty sure David can tell me if I'm wrong or not that they're responsible for the infrastructure on their property and that includes the sidewalk.
I don't think there's any disagreement at this point with this administration. They, you know, we have a they get on us about the two-mile thing, the kids walking and us making it safe for their kids, but they need to make their campuses safe so that when we get the sidewalk to their property that once
they get on the property, they can get into their school safely. I mean, or or across it. So, we would all concur on that, too. But we're trying to help help solve the problems that exist. I can tell you that the project at Oldm
Mill and Old Pasco has a sidewalk improvement that they agreed to offsite down to the schools on the west side. The county engineer had some foresight when he wrote that condition with us on that project and it basically says if somebody else comes along to construct the road, there's a cash out a
couple hundred,000 I'm as I recall. So there will be money coming from that project towards this project. So, it's a, you know, it's just a cute, we're trying to put together projects and have them do what they can do and as well as the county to get some of these roads done for you.
Commissioner, I think it's it's just a it's a good it's a good way to get these infrastructure projects done in in in parallel here with development. So, you're you're only messing with things one time. So, I think it's pretty good approach. You can go back to your pres madam chair. Just as we go a little
further, if you look at where that picture is right now, look down right below. There's a road going up and down. They're not connecting cuz the neighborhood didn't want them to connect. What? Where? Where are you speaking? Uh Cadlock. Would that be Cadlock Commissioner? Yeah. Yes. So, they didn't want to connect there. But
just like we just saw earlier earlier today at Eper, there's going to be something probably coming from there or coming from the back. Where's Hadlock? I don't know where that is. We too far. Yeah, we can. It's back up there. Right there. Yeah, that road that goes east
west right to there. That's goes back to the baseball. It does. Okay. Yeah. It's a dirt road if I remember. Right. So down the road there may be some connections, but right now if you don't set up where they could access Headlock Road from one of those spots or we actually did that work. You did that.
Okay. We did that work, Mr. Yes. So, we spotted that issue as well and we worked with your county engineer and we have to accommodate all the any of the traffic from anybody that develops around us, whether it's to our north or to our east, we have to bring them through ours. We had to do an extra improvement
of where our road intersects with Old Pasco, our entrance. We had to do a larger entrance to accommodate that traffic. We had to put public access easements over our roads that can't be private. So, that so we did that work as well. we work did the work that work as
well for you because in your PD&E padlock was the intersection in that PD&E so we had to make this the intersection because that's a private road dirt road um there's no ability to improve that road because a bunch of people have interested but we did do that work as well so that's that um road
that's that access you have on the east part of your development the east the north and then we have a I see it to the north and then we have a improved access way, you know, onto Old Pasco um to accommodate that future
traffic coming through our project because Hadlock is you can't use Hadlock because it's private and it's dirt. So, we did that work as well. We we've been working on this room for a bit. All right. So, your East West Road that's going to go to connect Old Pasco was going to be able suffice to things behind it. That's correct. Okay. That's
correct, Commissioner. And we and the people who moved there I got can't complain that oh that road's continuing. I didn't know it was going to continue. And then whoever's getting to that property on the east side of them Yeah. They're
going to come right down that road. So there will be like stubouts in place to show something's going to connect. That's correct. We have to do a stub out to our east and a stub out to our north and as well as put public access easements over our road. Okay. So that uh So, that's taken care of as well.
Okay. I I did have a question. I forgot. Do you guys have any questions? Oh, I know what it was because I see your traffic engineers is there. Um question. Um and and uh
so this road getting widened, it's going to be able to handle this traffic. Fine. Yes. Steve Henry, links associates. Yes, we did the traffic analysis for the project and yes, it will be able to handle the traffic. Okay. Question on what happened this morning because I know you were here. Um when when you do
traffic analysis, do you not look at future developments that are coming in or do you only look at what's there for the moment? No, we we we do it a couple different ways. So one when we started we we have a methodology. So we we'll look at one what is the historical
growth in the area. So we in in this case we pulled counts historical counts on Old Pasco Road on 52 and on 54. And so we look at the growth in the area uh and and look at what that growth rate is. And if that growth rate is less than
2% we'll use the minimum that your code requires of a 2% growth. If it's higher than that we use that. So we try to use a historical in some instances and like on Hudson where there there wasn't much traffic. So even if we used a 2% growth, it wouldn't estimate what was really
going to be there. We'll use actual traffic studies that have been done in the area and add that traffic to it. So it's a combination. It depends on the area and we look at, you know, what if that growth rate really is is giving us what that future volume will be. And again on this one also what we do is we
have a minimum of a six-year buildout. Even though this project may build out in two years or three years, in our traffic study, we use a six-year buildout to again to grow the traffic up even more than than what we might see at the actual buildout of the project. So, it's it's not one way to do it. We look
at kind of look at the area and come up with what the best mechanism is to estimate what that future growth might be. Interesting. Commissioner Joerger, do you have a rendering of what like where the stubouts are are going to be like what that'll look like? I think I seen your MPD item, correct? Because I
mean, I'll be honest, the only my concern is, you know, we'll take, you know, Rangeland right now. Like the developer didn't tell tell the future residents that, you know, there was going to be a road there and now Oh, I don't think that's true. And I know the developer. Oh, okay. Well, that's what I
was told. Anyway, I just want to make sure that like the the people buying in there, we can we can add a condition if you make it part of your motion that that disclosure happens and I can add that to our condition. You're a small scale amendment
in motion assuming that you approve the comp plan amendment. Thank you. Yes, I get all wrapped up in my MPD stuff. So, okay. I just want to make sure you know moving forward when we look at these projects that we're thinking ahead. Commissioner Mariano, did what he say match with what you were thinking?
Because you said something different. Let let me help you a little further. He doesn't know what's coming behind him. He doesn't know if there's four or five other developments and those I don't think are calculated in if they're not approved. Correct. Correct. That's why we use a growth rate. That's why we look at historical growth. But you're using
2% for historical growth. Well, no. What we do is we we we pull the the counts. The DOT has counts on every roadway. We pull the historical counts. In this case again it was Pasco Road 5254. We look at that if that growth that historical
growth rate is less than 2% we use 2%. If it's more than 2% we're seeing an area growing faster we use that growth rate. So that's just the in your code it says you use the historical growth rate or 2% at a minimum. So that's what we
use. And again, in some areas where because the existing traffic is so low, we may then use the actual traffic studies because the traffic is low and it's not going to estimate what that future growth is. Do you look at Bieber numbers or no? Uh we do not we we just
look at at the historical growth in the area is what we typically use. Okay, that was my question. Thank you. Um so so Madam Chair, excuse me one second. Go ahead. Yeah. So, so as you as you're you're hearing, they're not calculating those other
things coming behind it, which is important to realize that they don't factor that in. Well, no, I think that's we we do that. That is what the growth rate is supposed to do. The growth rate and what we do is we take the the the growth the existing traffic. So, we'll go out and do existing counts and then
we grow it up to% 2% or or whatever that growth rate may the historical growth rate in the area may be. It may be 3% but but the growth but in that area there may not be any development. And then you've got a, you know, 1,00 unit thing coming in down the street, but at 2% you're not going to catch it. Well,
but but when they come in in the future, then they will have to do a traffic study to evaluate what their impact. So, you're right. If there's a large project that happens to come in just down the street and it's a thousand units, you're correct. We we may not capture that in our analysis, but when they come in to
do their analysis, they will capture our traffic plus that growth. Okay. So it's so so it is it's a cumulative right effect. We can't you know we don't have a crystal ball to figure out who because lots of times developments may get approved but they never they don't
happen. Many many do and that's why historically and just you know years and years ago we would have to include every project that ever got built or got and the problem was many of those and you we can go back and look at some of
these now that still haven't built. Yeah. So that's when the county came up with the growth rate to look at historical to try to come up with a better estimation of what the the future traffic may be for these projects as opposed to adding in every approved
project that there is. Well, it would be interesting to know considering our fast growth rate if that formula is the right formula for us today. Just curious. 554. Um okay. So, oh, and actually to be honest with you, we've we just I'm you
speak of 54. We we've just completed some a series of new counts out there. And in fact, we're seeing a decrease in traffic in the last 5 years on 54. Believe it or not, there's actually been a decrease in traffic. And part of that is Rangeland's gone in. Ridge Road has
gone in. And so, we did counts before Rangeland and before Ridge. And now we're seeing an actual decrease in traffic on 54 because of now not to say that that's not going to come back. But we are seeing based on historical
volumes that we have done, we've done counts over the last 20 years on on 54 and and the last series because of those roads opening up, we have seen a decrease in traffic. I I was actually driving on it the other day in the afternoon and it was I was like the only car on there and I I was just shocked.
So that's shocking early afternoon on a weekday. But when we're we're doing new traffic on 54, we still add that growth rate to it. Even though we see a decrease, we we're still adding that growth rate to All right. Well, let me uh see if there's anyone that wants to speak to this project in the public against this
project. Okay, we have one. Is there anyone else who wants to speak? No, I'm not against. Anybody can speak. Well, do I get a You are allowed to speak. Don't listen. Go on up. Um, of consent again. Sarah Gonzalez,
16677 Albbright Road, Spring Hill. Um, to feed on what they're talking about over here on Old Tasco and such, this is not working in Shady Hills Road. How do we know it's going to work with it out here is my question. So, to feed on the same thing, we're experiencing the
growth in our area. How do if it's not working in our area, how's it going to work out here? Well, they're getting a they're getting a fourlane road. Okay, we got to figure that out for Shady Hills one day, right? Which is just crazy because our growth is almost as bad as theirs. So, that's where I wanted
to feed on with the this over here, Shady Hills is getting a lot of growth, too. And how can we know even though they're getting a lot of growth and you're saying that, how do we know it's going to actually go that way? Because Shady Hills didn't go that way. And I don't really need my whole three
minutes, but just thought I would like you guys on that because over there we've got four schools, four schools down Shady Hills. One of them has been since Shady Hills was paved, unpaved roads, and they have
done nothing to improve that road. There is still people parking on the side of that road, miles down by Shady Hills Elementary. That's they just added development by Cruz Lake and Mary, Dr. Mary G. Ellis, but yet our roads are not improved. So, how do we know this over
here will also follow through when we were told the same thing, you know, so just to throw that in in the same aspect. We're all Pasco County, correct? Thank you for your time. Thanks. Is there anyone else that wants to speak to this? See? Oh,
one more. Nancy Hayeswood 34110. A nice place. Um historic growth rate. When's that? 1950. I maybe you need a future growth rate to bounce off of instead of a historic
growth rate. Um then I I was listening to this and you've got 18 acres and you want to put 106 units on it. That's an awful lot. That's going from three per acre to six
per acre. You're doubling it. This is a chance to start slowing down what's going on out here with your infrastructure and your natural resources. Maybe this is the place to start. Thank y'all. Thank you. Um I think that's the end of public comment.
Come on up, Barbara. And if I haven't said it in the record, I have no one on WebEx for this item. Barbara will hide again for the applicant. Have a site plan. This road is ahead. Old Pasco road is ahead. You had a a route study somewhere along the line. You acquired a whole bunch of
rightway which was surprising when we looked at it for you for the county um as to what was going on and had our engineers take a look at what your rightway is, what you needed for this road improvement. Like I say, the only thing you're missing is um some property from the school board. but definitely
ahead and that's why this project was able to come in and do this improvement for you. Density actually helps you do road improvements. Um, and this project is it shows that because that's the way we're getting this project done. So, and it is town homes. It's a single family
attached versus detached. Um, three versus six. So, just wanted to add those perspectives. Thank you. Okay. Um, move approval. Second with the condition to be added that they're going to the condition to be added will be in 46. Okay. Second.
Okay. Um all in favor roll call vote. A roll call vote. Right. Ordinance. Thank you. District one. Commissioner Oakley. I. District two. Commissioner Weman. I. District four. Commissioner Joerger. Here. I here. Say here.
District five. Commissioner Mariano. I. District three. Chairman Starky. I. a self effect. Okay. Um, next one. P40. Item P40 was published in the Tampa Times on April 23rd, 2025. Good afternoon, Madam Chair,
members of the board. Keith Wy, director of parks, recreation, natural resources department. Back in March uh 11th of this year, the BCC gave the parks department direction to bring back the existing MST ordinance uh amended to be an all-inclusive
ordinance. That's what you have today in front of you. I do have a quick uh recap history lesson and then just an overview of what the actual amended ordinance covers. So the modification basically covers again it's the intent was to be all inclusive. So, it's all operations, all programs, all functions, all
routine, all capital maintenance, non- capital improvements, equipment, and salaries. So, that was the assignment back in March. That's what this ordinance would be able to do if approved today. And just a quick uh history lesson, current parks department budget is $22 million. Um, back in FY22,
we had a million dollars dedicated for what we call non- capital improvement projects. That's everything underneath $50,000. our existing need that I did not include in this presentation which I did include some pictures because I think that's impactful but uh the just the existing facilities in the ground
today the need for capital maintenance is approximately $8 million per year future stuff which I'll talk about later which is those are new capital projects coming online that um anticipated on& and M need is around $5 million and just to clarify starting in FY26 why I think
this is so important I think this is my third presentation by the way so I could probably just do this with my eyes closed. But um as a reminder that I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't clearly um articulate that starting in FY26, there is no reoccurring or defined capital maintenance funding for the
parks department. The GO bond, the general obligation money is pretty much either spent or already encumbered. And that's why um you know, we've been so diligent in pursuing this uh this a solution to this issue. So this is just an overview real quick of everything
that we currently have in the inventory. Most of you know this so I won't bore you with it. The most important piece is back in 2016 the parks master plan did not contemplate the capital maintenance or the on andm needs. It was both mostly focused on deferred maintenance and the new uh new capital growth needs which we
addressed through the park uh impact fee increase several years ago. So what are some things that can um that can be actually funded through capital maintenance? So these are all your parks and maintenance uh renovations, buildings, fields, boat ramps, playgrounds. Uh I made actually a short list while I was waiting just to kind of
not give a little more detail on this. So we have an aging lighting inventory at all of our parks 30 plus years. Anticipated approximate cost to replace that to LED. Total infrastructure 16 to $20 million. Now that's the entire inventory. That's over time. We have
three major facilities um on the east side of Pasco County. San Pasco, San Antonio, Burks that are in major major need of dugout, back stop fencing, field renovations. These facilities, you know, take a long, you know, they take a beating and they need the money to actually to be recouped. We have 136
plus athletic fields that require residing grass does athletic turf does need to be replaced. It's not artificial. Obviously, it has a life expectancy of about probably 8 to nine years with our use, probably less than that. So, a residing effort needs to
actually be budgeted for, which is anywhere between$1 and $120,000 per field. We have two artificial turf fields. um that are pretty much ending their life. That's at Wesley Chapel District Park. That's about anywhere between a million and a half to $2 million to replace those. Um in addition
to all that fun stuff, we have increases just like everyone else in the organization, increases to utilities, goods, and services that have slowly over the years has been eating into our operations. So, you know, if we can't pay the utility bill, then we turn around and take it from some other program which is reducing level of
service. This is more pretty much a recap just for anyone that hasn't seen this presentation before. And then something I'll get to in a minute after these pictures is we have about $110 million of new park projects that are coming online that um that will you know
this maintenance piece will also need to be addressed. So that's that's pretty important. Uh these are just some pictures some of the field conditions. Again I saw Mitchell I drove by Mitchell. I saw all the dirt. There's no grass. So that yeah, that back stop's about to about to come down. Um what's
happening with a lot of our outdoor courts is after a while settling slabs kind of break. You got to go in and do the entire redo which is you would think would be not you know not too expensive but it's like a half a million dollars. So if that if that backs stop goes down, you're not playing softball. I mean you
can't play it there. Correct. So again, not to Oh my goodness. Yeah. not to speed that up, but um this is I think what I feel like the message I want to get across and again the purpose for today is to just you know review the amended ordinance but these are the
projects that we know are basically coming online. You have about 102 to depending on what happens with connected cities. I don't, you know, just put that as a question mark. You have 102 plus million dollars worth of projects on and m need of 5 to $8 million. So the need's
real. Uh I know that I'm not the only department. Parks is not the only department suffering this, but um I know that we hear from the citizens a lot. I know you hear from the citizens a lot on our level of service and we take it in my on my team very seriously. So, we're just we're trying to kind of figure this
this out. At this point, I'd like to bring up the director OMD to talk about the finances. She is much smarter than me when it comes to that. So, all right. Hi, Amy Frell, budget director with Pasco Countyy's Office of Management and Budget. So, the scenarios that we're going to present to you today
are going to look awfully familiar to what we presented in March because they are in fact the same. Um, but we just wanted to give a refresh, a reminder. It is too soon in the budget process for us to have any updated refined numbers. Just a reminder, we get preliminary
taxable assessed value from the property appraiser June 1st. So, we're not quite there yet. Um, so we wanted to just keep running with the same taxable assessed value scenarios that we have already shown you. So, there'll be a little less confusion than trying to predict what we think might happen in a month. So, we
have three different scenarios for you. One is if we just fund capital maintenance. The second one is just current parks operating budget. And then the third one is if it were a combination of those two. And then the middle column shows you what the program
revenue would be. And then that final column shows you um five-year aggregate growth based off of how just that fund would grow assuming we didn't change the millage rate that we adopted and then just some growth projections on taxable
assessed value. And so it's important to remember that currently the only thing that's being funded for parks is that middle row um scenario for operations that capital maintenance piece would be an increase in that level of funding. So
if we were to keep a net neutral methodology for our taxpayers moving forward, we would have to find if the board desired to um commit $8 million, we would have to find somewhere else to offset that money.
Maybe if I could check. So on the slide it says cities contribute to the MSTU. Could you explain that? So if the cities were to say yes, we want to be taxed as part of this MSTU. This is um how that the numbers would shake out assuming
current year taxable assessed value. The next slide shows you if the cities did not raise their hand and say um yes, we want to be taxed as well. What would that look like to generate the same amount of revenue? Uh what would that look like? Uh the last time
we met, um Commissioner Mariano, you did ask us to come back with a fee schedule until we've got So there's two main things that made it kind of challenging for us to be able to bring that back now in May. The first thing is we don't really know what those taxable assessed
values are going to shake out to be next month. And then the second main contributing factor is what level of funding does the board want to put towards this MSTU? Meaning what is that millage rate? Because those two numbers would tell us how much the cities would have contributed and then how much would
we try to make up and absorb through some kind of fee schedule and assessment. So in short, it would have been a shot in the dark and probably not helpful. Do do any of the cities have soccer fields, baseball complexes, softball
complexes? Yeah, Commissioner, I think we talked about this briefly last time. So, it's hit or miss. This the scale, the number that they have is is not sufficient to address the need countywide. Yes. Well, I know, but like I don't think I mean Atlanta uh I don't think Newport Richie
has a recreational complex. So, like Date City has, you know, several fields. Uh, City of Zephr Hills has several, and I mean several, you know, a handful. Yeah. Not not not like a regional park. Absolutely. They don't fund their own
recreational. Not not to that scale. Correct. Commissioner Marian. Yeah. One of the things I was concerned about with the cities and and the contributions of what happens if that we're going to do all the contribution for 91% of the population covering all the fields. I don't think it's right. I think they should contribute. But one comforting
thing I got from let's say the Port Richie in uh Newport Richie their CRAAS if we reduce the millillage down and we're using uh this MSTU instead they're not getting revenue they would have got that they could go dump CRA and it comes
into this. So that was a I was trying to think of that Mike as we were talking the other day. I couldn't remember what that argument was. It just came to me a little while ago. But that's the that's the one piece where I got even if the cities don't contribute in um it's going to still help us in a way where not as
much is going to go to the CRA. Okay. Okay. So, what do you need from us today? All right. Well, so um next steps in our timeline. So at our upcoming budget workshop, that's when we'll start to talk about millage rate um and get some kind of
idea of where you all sit, where that's concerned. We will have preliminary taxable assess values and then we can roll um we can roll this MSTU through the regular trim process, but today it's approval of the updated ordinance that
Keith has presented. Okay. Um, do we need to take public comment? We do. Um, does anyone have any more questions for Keith? Okay, we're going to take public comment on this this one. Anyone wish to speak?
Madam Chair, we do not have I There we go. I don't have anyone signed up, but someone go right ahead. Michael, the parks guy. Yeah, the parks guy. This is not why I was here. I promise. I had no idea this was coming up. Uh, Michael Ftoak, 9152 Kent Road, Wesley Chapel,
33545 in the great state of Florida. Um, I just want to say, um, I have coached at Wesley Chapel District Park for many years now. Flag football, baseball, softball. Um, my children now play travel and the reason is the Wesley
Chapel District Park cannot fulfill near its capacity of what it draws. The West Chapel Athletic Association has an amazing amazing group of volunteers and such great talent and they want to pour into those boys and girls. And I will tell you there is no reason why Wesley
Chapel District Park and Pasco County doesn't have a national little league world series champion at this point. We have so much talent here. Let me tell you how much talent we have in the Wesley Chapel area right now. Just from
that park, we have nine baseball only travel teams that have left merely in 9U, 10U, and 11U because there's not enough park space to be able to really push these players to the next level. You have that much talent. You have so
much talent here. A good portion of the players come from Hillsboro County because they want to come here and play for these coaches in this program. They come from Loots. They come from Land of Lakes. You've got great coaches. a tremendous amount of talent. I love it when we go to the softball tournaments,
the travel tournaments at Starky Ranch. That complex is fantastic. I mean, absolutely fantastic. If you had something like that here in the Wesley Chapel area, you would actually have national championship athletic programs
here because you have such a pool of coaches, talent, and player. As Commissioner Weightman said in the workshop, your average age in this county is getting younger and younger and younger and younger and they all have kids and they come here because of
a beautiful Pasco County, a healthier environment, things like our sports, our parks, our wreck, getting the kids off of technology and out there actually doing this. And Wesley Chapel, we have one full-size softball field.
We have one full-size baseball field, three medium-sized baseball fields. There's so many players and so much talent. There's no choice but they spin off and go out to Burks Park and create more and more travel teams. We cannot pour enough money in this county into
the parks and wreck program, especially in Central County. It is probably the biggest Wesley Chapel issue at hand right now is having a place for our youth. pay attention to this process as we go through our budget
and still in this time. We need we need your voices. Yes, ma'am. Can I just piggy back on um so River Ridge plays Wesley Chapel Wednesday or Thursday Wednesday and Thursday night best two out of three and either Riveridge or Wesley Chapel will be going to states
for baseball. So that's super exciting. Yeah, absolutely. You have three of the best baseball programs in West Central Florida right here. Oh, we have the same with soccer as well. Well, it is and not enough not enough. Absolutely. Yeah. But and this is a shout out honestly for for
all of the coaching and the staff in the area. Wesley Chapel High, Wiregrass Ranch, and Cypress Creek. You have amazing baseball and softball there. You should be very, very proud of it. It all comes out of the Wesley Chaps. We need to fund our maintenance. So, absolutely.
I voted for the MSTU, but we didn't we didn't get it. We got Well, we we have an MSTU, but it's zero funded, right? We have zero funds for me. Let's fix that. Yeah. 41. So, Madam Chair, I have no one signed up for WebEx on this item and I did not have anyone signed up. Okay.
Come on up. Okay. Because that is your your right. Yeah. See, is 134110. A nice place. I'm sorry to bother you so much, but you're talking my talk today. Um, I want to say
that Mike is absolutely right that we need that, but I don't want you to forget the Elamp program. We also need to make sure that that stays healthy, too. We have bicyclist and um those type of lowkey things and hiking that also
needs to be supported. So, I'm all over this also. Please give it a thumbs up. All right. Um Mike, um there's no one else. Mike, you want to say something? Yeah, actually if you could put Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let me let me go, Madam Chair. Let me go. Oh, I'm sorry. Perfect segue. So, under my committee reports, I
was going to talk about Gunnar Hogan from Hudson. His parents are at this game. That's his first. Oh, how fun. He's from Hudson. from Hudson. Gunnar uh was on a triple aoublea team
that won the state championship. We gave him a resolution. The team then went on to win the national championship as well from right that that was just sentiment. My wife got that that last night. That was yesterday I think yesterday's game or something where there's a Pasco County
resident playing professional baseball right now. just got called up to play. That was his first game. First inning, nine pitches and they're going to strike out already. Oh, that's awesome. So that's So that's how important. And you think about all the traveling teams. These guys traveled everywhere. Yeah. I mean, they had they had some great stories just like we've seen before. Well, you've been here a long time.
2008. Yeah. Florida Young Guns. I remember that was my that was that was my fourth year then. But here Yeah. these these these kids here are phenomenal. And I was like I just want to highlight the sports, but literally the parks department and I always had a routine with my kids and I
I'm sure you guys carry the same thing. If your kids stay busy as we look at this coming through, I was at a u meeting over in Timbro the other day, retirement community, real simple place, not a not a high income area, but nice nice homes uh and all small like two
bedrooms, whatever. Um, but I asked them about how they felt with the paving assessment and they really didn't even know it was on there. I'm going to I'm going to tell you, we need to with the great work that Keith, Kathy, the whole team, Christina, they're all doing out there. People want that quality of life
and and they don't want it down the road when you can get it right. That's why they press pass those GO bonds. This may be a time as we come up here uh to actually look at that as in the next month or so to let's make a big stand now 25 impact and then if you got a
throttle it back once they're built and now now just more maintenance so be it. But it's a time where these people are are crying for it and if you want good as we say executive housing people with high quality incomes that want to come in with the demographics they're going to want they're going to want to be in the right place with their kids. Let me
tell you who keeps calling me. That's why this is so important. You know who keeps calling me saying, "Where's the baseball field, Starky?" Fred McGriff. He lives in Starky Ranch. He calls me all the time. Where is the baseball field complex? Um because he's very upset that they got softball in Starky.
And he has promised that he will throw out the first pitch when you inaugurate that that field which is in it's in Beexley. So who's got Beexley? That's you. So, but we can't build it if we don't have the money to take care of it. Why why build it if we
can't take care of it? And I was a coach for 25 years. So was my husband. I have a division one soccer player. Um, played soccer at the Air Force Academy. I I I get it. I was married to a professional baseball player. Okay, we're going to take the vote. Is this a roll call vote?
Can I add vote? Oh, yeah. You get to go. So, thank you. So, yeah. So, as as Amy alluded today, you're voting on the ordinance. This will add the operations portion to the park budget to your MSTU. Currently, as you pointed out, the MSTU is for maintenance only. It is set at
zero mills. In June, we will have the discussion, we will need to have the discussion more in depth. We'll have taxable assessed values. It'll be a lot easier to have a more realistic discussion on what you were going to set that millillage at and if you want a reduction in your general operating millage, what that needs to be. It's
important we have that conversation because to be you have to unanimously approve based on the current interpretation of of rules here that you have to be unanimous in setting that millillage. If you are not unanimous, it goes away. So it's very important both
for our staff that baseball as they push forward in planning the budget um and and we we march towards September when we have public input that there there is alignment on that. So, we will be having that conversation um more in depth and probably in more detail than you care to have, but it it needs to happen. So, I'm
just letting you know that. All right. Thank you. Okay. Um seeing no one, I'll take a motion. I got a motion and a second. All in favor? I I It's a roll call. Oh, roll call. I'm sorry. Ordinance.
District one, Commissioner Oakley. I. District two, Commissioner Weightman. Hi. District four, Commissioner Gage. I District five, Commissioner Mariano. As on P4, District 3, Chairman Starky, I P41. Item P41 was published in the Tampa Bay
Times on March 19th, 2025. Mr. Steinstein, it is a continuence. Um, but go ahead and read the record. Excuse me. Mr. Steinsteiner should give you the notice. We'll let him we'll let them
do the continuences and and Okay. And then we'll do the procedures. Okay. Okay. Uh item P41 is PD250114. This is McTar Pos plan growth department. Um item P41 is a development agreement to modify it. The request is
to continue the item to the May 20, 2025 board of county commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in Newport Richie. All right. This is advertised as a continuence. You can go to the next one. No, you need a motion. Oh. Oh, I have to
take a motion. Move approval. Second. Move to continue time certain, please. All in favor? I I Next item P42. Um, this item was incorrectly advertised for today. So, the project will be
readvertised. Yes. Uh item P42 is PD 257651. This is a zoning amendment in the name of Tall Timbers MPUD by Extreme Team41 LLC. Um there are ongoing conversations with this MPU. So we're requesting for a continuence to a date
uncertain and it will nonetheless be readvertised. Okay. Motion move continuous day uncertain. Second. All in favor? I. Madam Chair. Yeah. Just for a quick conversation. That's the talk we're talking about put in the field and
I hope they're having conversation with staff. Yes, they are. Make sure P443. Item P43 was published in the Tampa Bay Times on August 21st, 2024. The item was advertised for the October 8th, 2024 BCC meeting, which was cancelled due to
Hurricane Milton. The item then appeared on the November 12th, 2024 BCC meeting where it was continued to the February 11th, 2025 BCC meeting where it was continued to the March 11th, 2025 BCC meeting where it was continued to today. Item P43 is
PD257738. This is a zoning amendment the name of Evans County Line 80 MP master plan development by Evans Properties Inc. This is a request to continue the item to a date uncertain. Take a motion. Move to continue. Second. All in favor? I I All right.
Next one. 45. I Item P44. Item P44 was published in Tampa Bay Times on March 19th, 2025. Item P44 is the companion to the uh development agreement continuence for Riverstone or Rener MPUD. Uh, this one
is a substantial modification to the MPU, but we're requesting the continuence of the May 20, 2025 board of county commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. at Newport Richie. Um, and this one, you know, I'm really keeping an eye on this if someone's here because this
one has the multi-use path that's supposed to be going across Mr. Gad's house, right? And that is very important to the people in this county that that multi-use path is built. So I'm not I am not going to let that slide. Huh? Move
to continue time. Yeah. Need a second. Second. All in favor? I I. Madam Chairman, the reasonzoning procedures. There are two reasonzoning agendas, regular consent. Staff will present each application to the board of county commissioners. If staff for
planning commission has recommended approval and there is no opposition, the application will be considered by the board without further presentation. If staff or planning commission has recommended denial or if there is opposition to the application, the applicant will be given five minutes for
presentation. The opposition will be given three minutes for each individual or five minutes for a group representative and the applicant will be given three minutes for rebuttal. Any individual disagreeing with staff for planning commission recommendation or anyone wishing to object to any
condition of the resoning may at this time request the petition be pulled from the consent agenda in which case that application will be heard under the regular agenda later on during meeting. Otherwise, all resoning applications on the consent agenda will be approved by a
single motion and vote. If you wish to speak to any petition, please give your name and address and whether or not you've been sworn for the record. These are quasi judicial public hearings. The law in Florida is that mere public support or opposition of anos application is insufficient for this
board to take action. Please limit your comments to those criteria found in the board's land development code for reasonzonings. Madam clerk, would you like to square the public in? I certainly would. If you are here to speak in the remainder of the items, could you please stand and raise your
right hands? Okay. Uh, do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, so help you God. Thank you. You may be seated. Item P45. Yeah. Item P45 was published
in the Tampa Bay Times on April 16th, 2025 and affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. Item P45 is PD250183. This is a development of regional impact amendment. DRRI amendment in the name of Beacon Woods
DRRI MPUD development of regional impact master plan unit development by HCA Health Services of Florida Incorporated. It's a modification to the DRRI development order and map H of the master plan to remove some western parcels from this DRRi MPUD and include
them in the new HCA bayonet point MPUD to be used for hospital medical office uses and to update the DRI expiration date per previous request. Uh this follows uh MPU and comprehensive plan actions that happened at the last port of county commissioners meeting in
Newport Richie. The recommendation comes to you to approve the DRRi amendment request subject to the attached resolutions and and the attachments uh found therein. Um I I see Mr. Jav's here and I know we had discussions on this um and county
administrator I forgot to send you those videos of the parking but I need to speak to Mr. Clark about the parking so I guess I need to pull this off the concern and I think the other one's coming off the consent so we have no consent. Okay, consent is over. Okay,
I'm going to Who do I send this video to? That room or that room? Um is it Tony over there? No. Can Tony's here? Yeah. Okay. Tony, I gotta find your Let's see here. Um, no, the next one. So, that's an
email. Tony. Tony, what's your last name again? Okay. So, TST, there it is. Okay. I'm sending you this video. Hopefully, it's not too big. Madam Chair, that was listed in in my book is district one, but that's
district five if I'm Yes. And this is where my doctor's office that I just went to and I've talked to Mr. Clark about this. Um and my issue with this and I'm I'm going to vote for it, but I I need you to come up, Clark.
Um is that I don't think they've resolved the parking issue. And I I don't know if anyone else goes up there, but my husband and I go up. I don't know if you remember when I got vertigo. I have to go up there and get checked. And
there's they're parking. I showed it to you. I hope he gets it. They're parking on the grass. They're parking on They go up over the curbs. They're parking in the street. So maybe over by the hospital there's parking, but over by the medical Okay, watch my video here.
It's a picture. Oh, it's a picture. Okay. Just picture that everywhere. Um I think the video the videos may be um too big. So I don't I don't know how to resolve this. Madam Chair, if I might, Clark Hobby
Hobby and Hobby PA 109 Broad Street, Camp Florida have been sworn. Uh I I have seen the pictures and I understand we have a parking issue and I've been in contact with the CEO of the hospital about fixing it. We have a an internal compliance issue at the hospital with
some of the people that do parking there and with the staff. But my understanding from uh speaking with Sally, who's the CEO, is they're trying as we speak to change it. They have plenty they have about 300 more spots on the campus than
the code requires. So, what's happening is their own staff and guests are parking in places that they're not permitted to park. And what from what I'm seeing there, I'm guessing they're not even permitted to park there by the code. So, we may have a bit of a code compliance issue as well, but that
they're aware of it and they're trying to fix it. But, as you all are undoubtedly aware, the the agenda item that we're talking about today really has nothing to do with parking. All we're doing is getting the property out of the DRRi that it was previously in
before you all approved the MPU a couple of weeks ago. Yeah. But I know we talked and um I think they need some kind of sticker system on the car for the employees and then if they're parking where the customers are supposed to be.
But but something needs to get resolved or we just can't add any more to that hospital. No, I I understand and and commissioner, I mean I I know you well enough that if we don't get it resolved at some point, imagine somebody from code enforcement may start, you know, paying a visit to the site. Yeah. Don't
make a lot of Well, we don't I don't know who tickets is that the sheriff's office or the code the tickets when they're up on the graph up on the curb. I think it's a basic code enforcement issue is best I know. But yes, Madam Chair, yeah, I'm a frequent
flyer there. U I've been there many, many times with my family in the past couple years. Uh got a great with Sally Seymour. She's a fantastic co. She was down at Trinity. She's been up here for a couple years now. does a phenomenal job. She's aware of the problem. They've got about 450 interns. They got a bunch
of employees. The brand new building they just put out front, which is absolutely phenomenal. Has plenty of parking right there. Yeah. When when it's difficult if you're actually over there and you got to go go through the emergency room if it's late at night or coming out. Uh but there's a big central part of that area that's empty for
parking, right? Where they're not parking. So, she's got places to put her employees. She's working on it. It's going to take a little bit of time. And then you get other people that just go out there. But even if you're in the back, if you valet, the valet take your car and you have to even park it yourself. They'll go because it's still even crowded to get to where you'd have
to go. So that valley is going to be a key component. But she is working on it. I have full faith in them. And it's got nothing to do with what we're doing with this part of it. But they are working on it. And she's a great CEO. She the right thing will happen. You don't want to go to your doctor's appointment and spend 45 minutes trying to find a spot. And if
you don't have four-wheel drive, you're out of luck. You're going to have to Uber there. But if you valet, if you valet there from the front, you have no problem. They'll take your car. They don't even charge you. It's a volunteer valet that comes in there. So for those who can't find a spot right away, you can valet it. They'll take care of it.
And you walk to your dog. Sally did say to to suggest that to you, Commissioner, when you're there, but it that that still doesn't resolve people parking in places where they shouldn't. And Sally's aware of it though, and they're working on it. But she's working on it. Okay. Um this is a public hearing. Does anyone
want to want to speak against this item that was on consent? Madam Chair, I have no one signed up and no one on web expert. All right, I'll take a motion. Move approval. Second. All in favor? I. All right. P46. Item P46 was published in the Tampa Bay
Times on March 19th, 2025 and affidavit of certified mailings and site postings. I think the only reason that this came off a consent was to add an additional condition. Um, I would propose uh we've got some standard language that
we that we use in some of the MPUDs. A disclosure statement shall be included in all sales contracts or other disclosure materials for residential sales within the MPU regarding the east west road and it will be that it will be
interconnected to the parcel to the east. Is there a north south one too? The one to the south is an emergency access. We can Oh, the one to Well, eventually it may not be if they develop that road,
right? Yeah. So, it's got to be Well, we have it's emergency access to Hadlock only. Um, but that language is fine, Mr. Kenn. I think you you could put potentially could connect. Well, so we had a neighborhood meeting and the gentleman that lives to the south that
owns half of that road was very happy that it was emergency access only. I actually had to we had to send him the language. That road is that road is a private road owned by a whole bunch of people. The chances of that actually ever being anything, I guess, unless they're all bought out, which I guess
could occur, but um I don't know what you guys want to do. So I mean it's important to him but but the concern I think is 50 years is if if it if it if you open it or if it gets open for them not for
to not to go down headlock but but if they come in it's the impact to your project that the commissioner was concerned about the interconnection to our emergency access. Well, if if it was opened to the people to the south to
use the public road, that would impact your town homes, right? But it's not because we have a condition that says it can only be emergency access. I don't want that condition for now. You can't change that. Yes, we can. If you want us to write a condition that says because
we've written him before, it goes against what the gentleman was told, but it's up to you all. Not now, but he was he owns half of that road. I mean, it's easement over half of his property. How about it? He wants it changed. It can be changed cuz one day this property I'm
okay with. We'll probably get developed. Yeah, we have conditions that say and I and it's I can think of the one family uh trail I think it was that has a condition that says if it's ever proved a standard condition
then we then it has to be an access and not just emergency access. There is that language that exists if that's how you want that to read and we can make those changes to the documents. Well, we're really we're really only talking about a disclosure statement. So you want to say interconnected to the parcel to the east
and may at some point in the future be interconnected to the south. But I have to come back for a substantial amendment to make to change that from emergency access. I mean if it's if there's a condition that says it's emergency access only coming back for two public hearings to change that. So um
and they've probably been telling people that's emergency only. I can tell you that he reviewed our language. the the customer on the street has an agreement. I think we need to stand by it to change it without that customer
knowing. I think it'd be wrong at this point. Well, I think this I was trying to make it where the customer is in the driver's seat. If when if and when his property gets developed, he he may very well want that. Well, guess what? We actually have this language. Oh, thank you, Christie.
It's condition 23. And then that comes to Mr. County Attorney. is going to add his language, but it does say condition 23, the last sentence, notwithstanding, if when the property to the south of the MPD boundary is redeveloped, the emergency access may be converted to a functional access for if approved by the county. Perfect. So, perfect. Look at
that. Well done, Chris. That's what we need in all of these. That's got to be the standard emergency. Okay. Okay. Public comment. Anyone want to speak uh against this item that was on the consent agenda? Madam Chair, I have no one signed up and
no one on WebEx for this item. Move approval with the access conditions stated by the county attorney. Second. All in favor? I I Okay, thank you much. We finished We finished all the Rs this
morning, right? We do not have We have R37. R37. Oh, Adam's been hanging around all day. waiting for his and we were going to make Mike Morris uh stay and write report on tourism activity in the
legislature. He's listening to us on Zoom. Oh, is this what it is? I was excited about the MST talk with uh with parks. Oops. Give me a Yeah, not a problem. Yeah. Adam Thomas, tourism director,
Florida sports coast for Pasco County. uh as they're getting the uh the presentation uh pulled up. This is just aformational presentation only. This is um all your 2024 fiscal year data uh from the visitor economy and what we've been doing over the past year and the
results of of that. So uh over the past year, the Florida Sports Coast uh team has seen remarkable growth. We hosted major youth amateur sporting events, conducted engagement, social media tours, and offered ex exceptional venues for small market conference, enhancing our profile and boosting the economy.
Our achievements are an attribute to the valued support of community and industry partners across Pasco County. Together, we have transformed our destination into a hub of activity and opportunity. I like to celebrate these accomplishments and look forward to continuing the success and collaboration
of spirit that makes this all possible through this board and the course development council. So, I'm going to I'm going to move really quickly today. Um I but I I do want to stop on this slide real fast because this is our new tourism lexicon. This is how we're talking to people. This is our 30 secondond elevator pitch. This is how
we're communicating to people. This is what I use um at every conference and trade show that um that uh that I get the privilege of speaking um at. So in in summary, we're just a 30-minute drive from Tampa International Airport. T Florida Sports Coast is a place that
welcomes a unique mix of waterfront towns, rural attractions, and natural environments. From thrilling activities like ziplining and skydiving to more peaceful pursuits like scalloping, diving, and hot air balloon rides, Florida Sports Coast invites you to play the game your way. So, it's a call to
action, right? That call to action is to play the game your way. So, we're launching a new marketing campaign called discover what moves you. And there you can discover what moves you with the experiences that we have to offer when we're telling our story to the uh to the consumer marketplace. So,
in 2024, no short of winning some awards, we uh we won two marketing awards, one telly award and one communicator award for the golf is your playground video. So, this is a video that we used last year into this year. It's an evergreen
video that really highlights the all the many activities that you can do on our coastline from scalloping to fishing to boating to uh uh paddle boarding, canoeing, anything that you could do on the coastline, zipline, not zip line,
I'm sorry, uh wakeboarding, um anything that you can do on the coast. And we won two awards for that. Uh we won a state award for the um uh sports events uh the Tampa Bay Christmas Invitational and the
2024 Florida's best sports events for small market. This this is a an award that we won from the Florida Sports Foundation. It's a state award. Um this I'd like to recognize Canuelo Sanchez for her outstanding achievements in being awarded for the 2024 Florida
Professional Professional of the Year for Sports Tourism. She was also the persons of the year for compete diver diversity for sports ETA and she was also the 2024 uh persons of the year for the women's
and international trade for the Tampa Bay market. So she brought home the trifecta of awards for Pasco County for 2024. But I also like to recognize Kayla Glazebrook as being one of the finalists for the 2024 Florida Florida's emerging
leaders of Florida sports tourism. Wow. So, we talk a lot about about trade shows and really telling our community story again, really showcasing what we do to the world and what we have to the world. And this is just a couple of the uh the shows that that we went to over the past year. Uh ITB is the largest
travel and trade show in the world that gives us the opportunity to showcase our destination on the international stage in particularly to our German market uh visitors. Florida Huddle is another premier trade show that our tour operators and wholesalers from around the globe showcase the vast offerings of
the Sun Sunshine State. And that's what we're doing there. We're partnering with these tour operators to really get to uh get the consumer marketplace to know who we are, what we are, and where we are. IPW, this is a leading inbound travel show connecting US travel exhibitors
with travel buyers and media uh media trade that promotes their project from products from around the world. And last but not least, um, last month, Commissioner, our chairman Starky and I and and and Consuelo Sanchez had the opportunity to go to Spain and and
attend the sports and events Europe, a B2B focused workshop focused group on sports travel and meetings. FAM tours, this is a big part of uh our initiative in our sales and our PR strategies. Um, these are the four big
fam tours that we normally do on an annual basis. We have a German operator fam tour that we brought in seven tour operators from the central European market. So Germany um Germany uh Switzerland and
Austria scalloping famour we brought in um about six influencers travel influencers from around the country um that are freelance writers also writing for publications like Garden and Gun um Southern Living. these types of publications we just can't afford to buy
into because they're anywhere from 30 to $45,000 a pop. Um, and we just don't have the funding to do that. So, we invite these freelancers in to actually tell our community story and tell our activities while they're in market. Our domestic trade fam tour, this was a co-op opportunity highlighting um all
there is in the Tampa Bay area from Florida Sports Coast to uh to Tampa uh up to to Crystal River and it was all everything outdoor emerging uh experiences. So international sports tourism is a is a big is a big initiative of ours. And
when we went to Spain, uh we met with these six groups that are coming to Saddlebrook uh this month on May 16th for the um the Express Conference International. These are all uh qualified sports events owners that are looking for for Florida. Currently,
they're not in the United States, and we want to be the first destination they come to for for uh for for their their clients. again. So exciting that that that means something great. Yes. What is the world breaking? Break dancing. What is it? Break dancing. Break. Wait. And
did you see the other one on there? Jump rope. Yes. Wait, there's another one. What's the one? It's calis jump. What's the one that was Is it calisthenics or It's calisthenics? Yes. Yes, ma'am. It's calisthenics. So, it's jump. It's jumping jacks. It's burpees. It's these.
That's different. We We go after unconventional tourism. So, if underwater basket weaving was a was a sport, we would we would go after it. So, these are just some of the uh the conferences that were or the the the events that we're bringing into uh into Saddlebrook into Wesley Chapel into
Pasco County over the next uh couple weeks to to really showcase not only Saddlebrook but the entire county of what we have to offer. Marketing campaigns. These are um one funday video co-ops that we did with Visit Florida.
We highlighted Dade City, Zephr Hills, Wesley Chapel, and Newport Richie highlighting what you can do there on one fun day. So there's lodging, there's attractions, there's eeries, there's entertainment involved. So all these things make up Wesley Chapel, Newport
Richie, Dade City, and Zephr Hills. And you can find them. These are also evergreen videos that live not only on on our YouTube channel, but also on Visit Florida's YouTube channel as well. Our marketing campaigns, Expedia marketing campaigns. Our marketing campaigns are getting a little bit more sophisticated, right? When we're going
out to market, we know who we're going to attract, who we're going to target. It's targeting the right person on the right on the right media to get the right return on investment, which we're going to talk about in in just a second. But you can see the impressions that we're generating, the clicks, and the hotel revenue, the hotel room nights,
which we weren't tracking before on our marketing campaigns. We are now tracking through our our partners with Adara with um with epsilon with um uh don't ask with Zardico down to St. Germaine and Adara. So I just want to go
back here for a second. This is a this is a Hopper. This is an international marketing campaign with Hopper. This is an online travel agency that we are that we are partnering with um to to actually redeemed bookings in hotel rooms. So even though it's only a 204 roomtail
room night uh generation that's only for a couple weeks since the since the campaign had had launched. And here's where the rubber meets the road on marketing campaigns on a return on ad spend. So you can see for the month the the the first or the second quarter of
the year are our campaign with Expedia and our campaign with Adop uh with Adara. So every dollar that we spend in January gives us a return on ad spend of $1744 back in market. It's the same with February, March, and the total
$16.91 back on uh the the revenue that's generated. And the revenue that's generated is also the revenue, the hotel revenue that's generated through these through these uh campaigns on the bookings. I just talked about how we measured. So here's some of the creative that that uh that we kind of push out.
So this is Newport Richie obviously that gets broken down into our our brand new newsletter. So we we started this newsletter back up um and reinstated it uh a few months ago uh as soon as uh we
went out subscribers have grown have grown from under 500 to over a thousand. So these are opt-in subscribers that are going to our website looking at the opt-in newsletter or or uh requesting a visitor's guide. These are qualified people that are trying to find out more
about our destination so they can come back or or come here for the first time. Our social media is is going gang busters. I just want to highlight real fast uh our Instagram feed. Um about 18 months ago, we were we were less than uh 9,000 followers on our on our Instagram.
And I'm happy to uh to announce right now we're over 14,500 followers on our Instagram and counting. This is largely in part to our giveaways, our seasonal attractions, and uh um uh our our marketing efforts from from our marketing team. So, here's just um some some big
uh tournaments that that we held at Wire Grass Ranch Sports Campus. We had the Florida Senior Games. We had the US Wheelchair Rugby National Championship that just took place last week. Uh we had the North American Chinese Basketball Association Championship. This was a 4-year project. They were
supposed to come in uh uh right when p the pandemic hit, right when COVID hit, they ended up cancing and came back last year in 2024. And this opens a a greater bigger door for the Asian market. So now we get a chance to talk to the Asian
Federation for other sports and other um um um other uh um teams to come into into Pasco County. You see those ladies playing basketball? Here are some of our venues that we kind of just highlight. Just move it along real quick. And we were asked to to show what the sports
campus is because this is your biggest investment from a board's perspective. This is your greatest asset from a tourism perspective. What uh what the sports campus generated in 2024. So we went from nine events in
2023 to 68 events in 2024. We went from 11,000 room nights in 2023 to to close to 22,000 room nights in 2024. Thank goodness we made that switch. You made that switch. It was it was a it was a a
well-needed switch because now we're seeing the return on our investment of of that facility. And with our Mr. Jagger didn't go through that, but we uh switched the management over there. Oh, I need the county took it over. Oh, yes, ma'am. And so all of Pasco County sports
events, we hosted over 122 events gen generating close to 36,000 room nights for 2024 generating an economic impact over $36 million and 3,135 teams not individuals these are
teams that came to Pasco County last year. Here is an overview of the sports highlights again. North Chinese basketball championship, the Christmas Bay Tampa Bay Christmas Invitational. Um, this the Tampa Bay Christmas Invitational is something to to really
watch. I mean, you're talking about 3,200 uh room nights that are coming in for for a week long period, creating over $3 million of economic impact, but these are all division one, division 2, high school, college ready high school girls that are coming from across the country at the last week of December.
So, great time of the year. Uh, and it's just really a good event to to come and watch. So, the impact of Pasco County tourism for for for uh for 2024, you can see that we just we we welcomed a little over 1.4 million visitors into into Pasco County, generating uh close to
close to about 10 and a half thousand jobs. Uh that supported a little over 300 million in in total wages and salaries. And the sales tax and taxes that were supported here in at local taxes supported through tourism related initiatives are over $78 million. So our
direct spending that happened in 2024 was over 750 700 675,000 I'm sorry million dollars in market and you can see where the categories of spend on accommodations, restaurant, grocery, shopping, entertainment, transportation and other categories as well where where they're
spending their money in market. Our occupancy a little flat year-over-year. Uh our rate is is stabilized. Anything above 100 right now is great for us. Um, when I first came on board back in in 2017, our ADR was $87 over the course of
the year. Average daily rate. Average daily rate. Yes, ma'am. And that is our revenue per available room. So, every room that we're we're generating, we're generating about $70.40 per room per day. Economic impact. Again, going back five years, and you can see the uh the trend
line of of where we're at today. I can tell you right now, we're outpacing all of this for 2025. So, we're we're looking to have another historic year in terms of visitors, room nights, uh direct spend, and economic impact. With that, Madam Chair, um do you recall
the name of the new tennis coach that has now joined Zephr Hills? Uh it's um one of the Serena or Venus's coach. So, it's Moratloo. Yeah, it's it's the it's a Moratagloo Academy at Sarah Vanderberg tennis facility. So, they just did a
whole rebranding. Um, don't ask me what Moratagloo's first name is. I can barely pronounce his last name. Yeah. Um, but this is uh going to be a game changer for us in Zephr Hills because they're now going to be bringing uh tennis athletes from around the world to Zephr Hills for training. Yeah, it's a big
deal. It's bigger than IMG Tennis Academy. When I told my tennis friends um the the name, they couldn't believe it. you know that they they're down in Hillsboro and Penelis and Great stuff. Great stuff. Any questions for Adam? Commissioner Mariano? Yeah, Adam, I had to ask you a couple of questions this
morning. I thought we were going to see some of some data presentations, too. But so we sent that slide that you requested over to Colleen. I don't know if Tony, did you get the slide from Colleen? No. All right. While you're checking that, Tony, put
those other slides up there. Yeah. And then Tony, I sent you a picture. I sent you two, but I want the the one picture that doesn't say Wikipedia. I've talked before about pictures like Bora Bora for my daughter stayed in
those. So, uh, Keith loves this. Uh, I I love it. Adam loves it, too. Um, but try to imagine the second lake at Sunwest where you take and you put in those if you go back to that pre cabins in the water. you want to talk about like trying to get attention
to Pasco County, you put those things out there. I don't I don't know anyone else like it. Um that's lovely right there. There's a co-vari and there's like so there's the there's you can make them overnight accommodations. I think you you generate tremendous amount of money. There's enough space around where
even you can put some uh container home type things right along the canal that's right there. That could be a structure that's in the lake as well to kind of highlight stuff. You could even put that actually in the other part of Sunwest as well. Now, I want you to think if you're at Sunwest with this, the second bathroom we built, there's a little cove
area. So, picture you're looking at the little cove area. Try to imagine a concrete structure stage area which you probably put a cover over, etc. I want to get some professional look at it. And you kind of divi develop an amphitheater. There's a there's a natural amphitheater right there right now. Now, you take that around. There's
already there's already a walkway like you see right there with outlets to go through. you could make this such a concert venue. And I tell you, I just came from the country of Thunder down at at the uh Raymond James. And it wasn't the Raymond James stadium like I thought it was going to be. It was out in a
field and that field was not well sorted in a sense of it was dry. Dust was flying like everywhere, but people sat out there and waited and waited for the music to play. Toward the end of the night, it got good. The great thing is about this park is if you go back to that those slides again, please.
I want to highlight where the peninsula is. There's an awesome little place that actually the guy who's run the shrimp and crab festival for 10 years, Drew. He says, "I'd love to have a pavilion out along that peninsula area, which could be great for weddings." It's the uh and just other smaller events.
That one. Go right. Yeah. So, go right there. So, this So, there's the co Let's kind of look at the cove area there. So, if you look at the concrete area with the rocks around it, then you look at the other side. It's kind of like mirrors the peninsula part. You can actually set yourself up to be on one side of it there on the other side looking out all over the nature on the
far side of the lake. Gorgeous setting. Christina and Keith and I were out there looking at it. And it wouldn't take a lot of money to do do that. It wouldn't take a a ton of money to do this here. Though musically, you want to make sure you get it right. And and I've got a couple people professionals. They want to come take a look at it. I've actually
got a wedding planner in St. Augustine that wants to come down and take a look at it for us. Um there's there's a guy that lives in Starky Ranch who does music for a lot of the If you could hook him up, we'd love to bring him up and get his He'll be at Locash on the Sunday night of Memorial Weekend at our at our
market. He does the sound every year. Okay. So I mean the things we can do out there for tourism. Um and Adam, so that slide that was with the calculations one, correct? All right. So the calculations then I I don't I don't see it, but it did get
sent out. it. Yes, sir. I'm I'm Yeah. Okay. So, pull up the slide. So, when I was on TDC and and Commissioner Stark, you probably go through it now. So, take a look at the uh this this is the data from the tourist zones. So, look at look at Northwest Pasco,
$33,000. Go down below at the southwest, $346,000. Yep. Go to the southwest quadrant, you're at 304,000. And northeast passer, where Nancy wants to keep it quiet, uh is at 25,000. Try to imagine if we put that facility up there for the weddings,
for the concerts, for the yurts, that would just drive, I think, international attention. Here's my challenge for you, Commissioner Mariana. Go ahead. Um, and because I mentioned this to a few other people is, you know, my son is in real estate development and they actually
received some packages from Pasco County that are of groups that are out shopping some big projects um up in their Greenwich, Connecticut office. But what turns them away is the condition of the US 19. Um, and the
dilapidation and and the just it's a mess. And so I think if we want to invest money up there, we have to clean up US 19. It's it it it's third world. I I'm going to I'm going to tell you, Starky, I've been saying for a long long time, and you've seen me get ordinances
passed about the the pan handling going on what goes on that drives the economy down. We don't have good hotels up there. We're going to take it when we're looking at converting. Got a lot of code violations up there. Well, I'll tell you the your bigger problem comes where the demographics go. When US 19 and
everything came along it, you built a lot of two-bedroom, two baths, the GM retirees, the Chrysler retirees, Ford retirees, all come down. They built these two-bedroom things. And when did you have to move in after that? We've got to we've got to promote what we have in our coast and the assets we've got first. That will elevate your demographics up. It's just that you got
to get the money people to invest in it and when they when they they shoot I even had some folks in from big money wanting to do workforce housing and they won't go north of 54. Okay. They won't
go north of won't go north of Trouble Creek. So think back to when we had NDP lacrosse playing up at the West Chapel District Park. Where were all the hotel nights down south in Tampa? We got very little benefit. When Gordon built his
hockey place up there, it elevated the game. When we built our sports ranch, elevated the game. Now you get more hotels than we've ever had before. You have to have the attractors coming in here. I'm telling you, as this place is now and and staff and this board, I want to thank you all. What we have done up
at Sunwest right now, that second trail around that lake, the trail around it, you've got an asset. There's nothing else like it in the world. If we get that uh canal dredge with Sunwest with boats coming in and you can put 3/4 of a mile of boat docks all the way down where people can come to a beach, dock your thing, have a good time, stay
overnight in the thing, go to a wakeboard park, which Germans love that stuff. That's where we got the idea from. I mean, this thing here could elevate the whole region on the Northwest and that $33,000 number. If that gets up to a reasonable number, you will make things. But you got to put the
attractors in. We're that close right now to get these things in. And we're not talking about big money to make it happen. Right now, we put the big investments in. The rest of it's going to be easy. But the attraction of those things I I think is going to blow tourism up on the west side. And that will lead to your better things as well.
But you got to have hotels. I can't have hotels that I can't have hotels that dilapitated where I got homeless people, drug addict people living in there going through taking up space. I got to get the good stuff in there. But I got to have a reason why they're going to come in. They're looking for the stuff and this is like part of it coming out.
Yeah. Okay. Anything else? No, I'm just thrilled I'm thrilled. Oh. Oh, yeah. We're on We're not on you. We're on him. That's funny. Okay. Um, uh, I had a picture to show. Um, no, not that one. No, I said not the
wicked. That one. So, so when we were um in Spain, the number one attraction in the area was this hike called the Kamanito del Rey. They did it in the rain. I was too terrified to go do it in
the rain, so I canled my ticket that day and I went on another day. But that is the hike there. That is a trail that is um hammered into the side of that gorge. And um yeah, I did never I never did look over the edge to tell you the
truth. Um, and I I I you have to hike down for like an hour to get to the drop off, the start of that. You have to wear a a hard hat. There's other pictures, but um I I asked if I get scared, can I can I quit? There's There you're looking
at some of the pictures. Yeah. Um you know, I'd be like, "No way." Um well, if you look at that architecture, look, it says the most dangerous path in the world. But that was before they hammered the new one in. And and you can see most of these people are like hugging the
rock. And that would be me um on the edge. Um but they don't tell you that when you get to this suspension bridge um that's like two and a half hours into the hike. And so if you chickenen out, you have to turn around, go back all by yourself all through that. So I I made
it through. I did hold the guy's hand walking across that bridge. But um this is the number one tourist attachment in that in in that area. 1500 people a day are doing this hike. They did not plan on that. We could do that around the second lake in Sunwest,
right? Yeah. So, that's the Kamanito do. Okay. Any more questions for Adam? Thank you, Madam Chair. Okay. Great job. Gosh, I just so glad that hopefully you get to keep your money. Uh hopefully the legislature doesn't mess that up, right?
Okay. Um I think we're done with all of that and we're on to Commissioner Oakley. Okay. a few items. I think I have some pictures. So, I guess I should start with I'm afraid of heights.
My hands were sweaty looking. This is one where Alex actually go out and visit with this. I was not able to go myself. U watch. This is a drone. Oh, is that the drone dock? That's the drone. And they have a uh I believe they
have the video working on this. Very cool. Is this in Land of Lakes? That's it. Mini Pock. Oh, this is the one in Mini Pock. Okay, that's getting a holiday, folks. Okay, I
guess that was it. Then we had a meeting down at the Rotary down in Zephr Hills. We met down in the library there in Jeffrey Hills and talked to the non Rotary for Zephr Hills and uh had very good conversation. had quite a few uh
probably half a dozen or more. Billy Poe and some of the city officials were there. Steve Spenn was there with us. So, we talked about a lot of different things around Zephry Hills that affected both county and Zephr Hills. So,
uh next we have what we had here. Oh, this is where yesterday I went out to um Cypress Creek Junior High School. And when we left that from here yesterday,
we left here, they said there was a 100 kids signed up for me to speak to. When we got there, he said, "Oh, there's 180 kids coming to Houston." um I don't think it was that exciting, but those kids were something else. They
they were very exciting and strange enough, don't mention Trump in the room because I did and they went nuts. They were so happy and cheerful. You just can't I just never saw that reaction from 12 and 13 year old kids. Wow. In
there. So, but it it was a very nice event. explain to them about the commissioners and and just the um way we do things in the county and what it takes to vote that we only hire two people and and our actual employment
number is 3912 people that work for the county which Mr. Gabala takes care of all of those except for two. So, uh, but, uh, a lot of good things we talked about with th those kids and they
thoroughly enjoyed being there. So, we talked to him from 1:30 to about 2:30 or quarter 3 and um, it was just kind of non-stop when we went in there, but very good day. So, all right, that's all I have.
Commissioner Whitney, thank you. We um, no updates for committee reports. has been quiet on those. But we had a last Thursday a very a very nice national day of prayer here at the historic courthouse and want to thank all the the staff up to set up chairs and and help
PA systems and and uh make it make the event the success that uh it is it is every year and uh just a nice time. And then I had to put a picture of Chuck up here for you, Commissioner Stark. Oh, there you go. Is that your name? For for
maybe for maybe next year the speaker. Can we afford him? Are you going to treat us treat us? He's probably cheaper than TBO maybe. And um it so yeah. Where does he live? I mean if we do this website a couple He's still doing
speaking engagements at 80 something years old. I mean he's he's still literally out there pushing down the moon. Um kicking it down. Yeah. So, and uh also with uh the hospital um Advent
Health uh Meadow Points ER opened up at 54 and Me Point Boulevard. So, since it's hospital week, congratulations to Advent on another another emergency station. So, that's all I have. Commissioner Joerger. Okay. Can I have
my Yes, ma'am. Okay. Almost there. All right. Oh, Adam left. I don't think you saw Chuck. Okay, so um Paula and Pam went to the Tunnel of Towers where they had a
home dedication to Sergeant Hannon. And I don't know if you guys have ever been out to the Dog Good Village, but it's absolutely amazing. It's a great ceremony. It's It's very moving. Okay, next slide. This was our
national day of prayer at the Newport Richie Government Center. It was great. They had music and um I was really moved by it. Okay, next slide. This was a ribbon cutting for Grace's food pantry.
That was yesterday. So, this I believe is their 11th pantry that they start. So, they help feed um senior citizens. So, and this was in a um senior living home and um Kathy, I had gotten with you to see if their their rents are going
up. Um they started at like 640 and now some of them are at $1,000 a month. So, Kathy's looking in to see if um we can help fill the gap for them. So, Jack was with me um on that and I believe that's all I have. Very good. I love that that
group. They're they do wonderful stuff. Yeah. Commissioner Mariana. All right. Um, and again, I was actually those might show a picture of tunnel towers. I was to the dedication. It was amazing. The the turnout just was incredible. The whole street was like 12 houses down full. Uh, the presentations were great.
Um, great people just uh very appreciative to what's going on. What that that development in just outside of Land Lakes is just such a great thing. The testimony for our veterans and Tunnel to Towers is just a first class organization that did it well. Um, so I
want to just talk briefly. Oh, there's a All right, we'll go to the pictures. Uh, that's the Tri County workshop we had. If you would go back. Uh, so the tri county workshop. I tell you, I think the people should know that all the county commissioners from Hillsboro, Pasco, and Penelis all get together quarterly or I
would say bannually or quarterly now almost quarterly. At least I would say probably two or three times a year for sure. And I tell you the meetings we have, the conversations I think everyone will agree that it's great dialogue. gets great input. You kind of get it where you're not getting like two people that sit on the commission with you. You're getting all five commissions. You
get a much broader perspective. And I think that helps get get better discussions to find out where we need to go, especially as we talk about NPOS's and merging and and how to best serve the region with all the great things we do. So, I'm gl I want to thank you, Mike, for working with the other two
administrators who are great as well to to bring us all together so we can have those conversations. Definitely definitely helps the region. Yeah, I think we all we all agreed the administrators agreed that uh this this particular workshop was round table was was very very good. We were able to start getting into some meteor issues and discuss things of regional
importance because I think US 41 and 54 I I got have to tip my hat to you there commissioner start so so but but we just we had real time discussion on legislative issues and so I thought that um it it really it really hit the mark and I was glad it was here in Pasco County too. Yes. Yeah,
I think it I think it worked out great. I don't know what's going on with the sound system there, but other than that, I think they love their Florida sports coast and they got a little bump with the Starky Seltzer. We should thank Adam for all I mean, we gave him a nice little bag of stuff.
Commissioner Oakley went home with a whole six-pack at the end. Seven. Actually got seven, but I'm But I'm down to five now. I I I was happy to just get my stocky selzer in love. I was good with that. I
did go home with two of those. I traded I traded your take the next picture. And steps to recovery did their groundbreaking. Okay. So, as you know, I went to DC trying to get them an extension. We talked about doing CDBGR money for them. The
complexities I'll tell you after talking with them yesterday, talking to the engineers, talking to the contractor who started that's only started three weeks ago, this whole lot is cleared. I know. I know. But it's got D. We're going to put more more in. All right. So, the drainage is is all set up right now. As
much as I wanted to add the third floor, they would have to like start and with the construction already done, it's too late for that. But there's land right back to where that picture is to the back side that they're actually working with the people there. We might be able to help them if they can go get the land, maybe work on getting the land and
building something right next to it so they can still help with the services right there and take care of more veterans. They're going to take care of 32 now, but I I'm sure we can at least double that number coming up. So, it's a little bit different plan from what I talked about, but uh I still think helping is great. Um Marilyn is right in
the middle there with the Bay shirt. She's the one who started this whole thing years ago as she was retiring. Uh she's up to seven homes and now with this new complex all very excited. They get volunteers from Timber Greens. They do a great job for her and uh everybody in the community is really really behind it excited about what's going to happen
out there. And you see Marcy grabbed the shovel there. Kathy's right there too. And Paula was probably taking the picture at one point. But it was a great groundbreaking. Very very very encouraging that know we're going to help our veterans with this project. And that opioid money we put in. Yeah. Put them over the top to make the project
happen. Otherwise, and we'll get some from the t the trust fund. Yes. So, it was a great thing for this commission to make that happen and it's going to help that area quite a bit and all our veterans. Uh, is that it for pictures? Okay. All right. So, I want to just go
back to we saw today um at Eper Elon Bro administrative decisions. Uh, okay. Eli, sorry. It's okay. There's an echo there though.
Uh so I I think it's important we and I know we talked about doing this a few months back. Kella Drive was an example where a decision was made and it was changed by staff. Uh we got a lot of uh grief right now in Beacon Woods East where they got a development coming in where they're supposed to go on a road,
staff changed it and now we're dealing repercussion after repercussion that keeps on coming. Matter of fact, David, maybe you get the language for me, but they've maybe taken this one road they're supposed to go in straight in for development. Short little run that they decided to go on, and now they're going Who's they? The developer. Okay.
So, now they're going on two side roads in a neighborhood with their dump trucks waiting to go in. Thought we fixed that. Well, this is a new one. I mean, same same developer just in the other side of the road. Instead of being the long way through Coral Gluc was like a two-mile
jaunt from from Little Road or 5A road Hudson F coming in now they're going a short road off of uh Hudson F. They're supposed to go right in and they're going into the neighborhoods now. No. So we got to go get get some new truck signs out there so they can't go there. But it's it's brutal what's going on. Do
we need to start identifying the the construction these ways? generally shut them down or something back in like I think it was 06 or 01 whatever it might have been. We put conditions into it was a different construction road administratively it was changed and these people are suffering for it. So I
want to make sure that we're going through this and we get this thing done fast because I don't want to see any more changes done because when you have public hearings and you get the all that public input things are done. when you get, you know, planners, etc. in a room, they don't know all that went on. They don't get to hear it from the people and
what was agreed to at that time. Those changes that were put in are important and need to stay there unless you really republic have another set of public hearings. And I I do I want to get it back into where the public have more control, we've got more control, so we don't have to deal with these issues
that we can put our hands up and say there's nothing I can do. So, I want to make sure we get that back as quick as we can. And David, is there something we can do about that? I want to talk about that now. So the two side roads that they go on, what development is this? This is at Beacon Woods East at Aquac. So right now they're on the main road
supposed to be Aquara. They're using the two side roads for the dump trucks. What kind of a no truck sign or whatever I could put up there where they can't go on those road? Yeah. Um so David Allen, assistant county administrator development services again. Um the the the project is just a
little bit north off of um Hudson Avenue. Um uh the the actual development is Beacon Park and there's a small little section of Aua Clair that connects Hudson Avenue to the proposed project site. That's the main road that
that the developers been using to access the site in and out. um the the construction traffic there really started picking up when they they switched from an alternate location that they were using further to the north that was actually a little bit more dangerous because they had to go through
a lot a lot more of a residential area to get to the site. Um right now what what the challenge is is some of the things that the developer is doing is is using the side streets um to turn trucks around and those types of things as opposed to bringing them on site. And so what I'd like to do is at least
initially reach out to the developer to see what we could do to just limit access to just in and out of the site um without having to disrupt um the community. Part of the other challenge too also for the board's benefit is that um some of the other challenges we've been having particularly with the
developers, they've been queuing up their trucks and just parking waiting to get on the site. And as a result of that, they've been blocking folks from being able to get in and out. And we've been coordinating with the Pasco Sheriff's Office to ticket those um drivers whenever that that that
situation occurs. Typically in the early morning um usually by midm morning that situation kind of clears out. But that's what I would propose to do before we look at just kind of closing off the road um from the construction traffic because I think we would have to make uh
provide some additional language to allow for other types of construction to be able to go in and out because so for example, if someone were to have a road a roof done within the neighborhood, they would have to have the trucks be able to go in to make deliveries of roof materials and those types of things. So,
that's what I propose that we do is reach out to the developer to see what we could do to to get an update of their schedule and and really limit their their Who is the developer? Um, it's Southern um Investment Properties. I believe they're out of Jacksonville.
Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate Yeah, we got to watch that. All right. So, and and actually David, while you're right there, so I got this email from Denise Sanderson about doing a code sweep in Gulf Side Estates. I look at the area. This is an area that it
happens to be right off 19. It's on the uh west side. And as you first like on 191, it's pretty high. It goes to an area lot deeper right now. Um I'm understand we're not doing we weren't doing sweeps and I see we're doing sweeps. I want to say this as far as in
my district. If we're going to do a sweep, I want to know about it ahead of time. We've done them before over in certain areas where we're trying to work on different things. So, whatever. But I don't know how you guys feel, but I think if I'm going to do a sweep in my district, I want to know. I can't get what I want to get done. And as
Commissioner Stark, you just mentioned earlier, you know, I got to work on the the their how the look of 19. I got pan handlers out there. I've got ordinances in place that work very well in Lee County. I don't want these the thing of like worried about a lawsuit coming up. If I've got a safety ordinance that
works, I want to implement it. I want to keep it implemented. I don't want people out there just panling. I want people to know that they can't just give money to those people either. It is a blight. The biggest blight is going on up there. Uh I want to go work on the areas that we know and there's plenty of them in my
district up and down the area. We've got homeless camps. We brought on a deputy from the sheriff's office, a corporal to come in to work with our team to go do that. That's what I want my focus to be in my district. I don't want this sweep on some neighborhood that's poor,
recovering from a flood, whatever. She can take my sweeps. I don't care. Let every commissioner do what what they want for the district, but I want to treat my district with the focus I want. And frankly, with the code budget that we've got, I want my people to focus on what I think needs to be done as my commissioner. cuz I'm going to tell you
the blight that she just mentioned and the up and down is something I got to deal with and I hear about all the time. That's my problem. It's not whether you going to take this neighborhood that nobody else is going to see and they're like I said, they were probably hit with the storm pretty heavy, so they've got some RVs out there. Guess what? That's
what's going to happen. No, I know you've touched on kind of several several issues there, Commissioner Mariano. First and foremost, yes, I wholeheartedly agree and I'll talk to our um code code department head to make sure that all of the commissioners are notified whenever we do a sweep in
within the district because I think it's appropriate that you have that advanced notice regarding that. Um, in regards to um, the focus within the districts, I believe um, Denise Anderson has been meeting with each of you to get a sense of what that looks like. And that's part
of that um, is to get your feedback to understand what you're looking for within your district so that we can focus on those specific items as well as kind of the broader county perspective um, in terms of what should the code department be focusing on on a broader
perspective. And you know, some of the feedback that we've already heard is just really kind of focusing on the the main corridors and the main areas where we have um a lot of visibility with the public. So, north south corridors of 4119 um east west corridors of 54 52 um to
really have those as the kind of the focal points of the code enforcement because that's kind of our gateway into our county and those are the areas that we want to focus on as well. So, the way I understood this discussion was supposed to go, what's important to you? what do you want to see in your district? So my answer was I want to deal with the homeless, the homeless and
pan family and then after that more homeless and panley. That's my focus. Okay, that's what I want to take a look at. That's what we got to go deal with at least for my area. And I'm I'm not and I think every commissioner should be able to say here's what I want to see happen. And if that means they're going to change their district, so be it the way you have it all lined up. Yeah. But
I'm going to tell you, I see pan handlers everywhere now. They're more prevalent now because they know they're not being picked up. They know not be being pressured and they're middle of rightways or in safety. Dangerous issues can't pick them. But you can get them out of the right and again if they're in the right but we don't have a
panhandling ordinance. You have a safety rightaway ordinance but that's but I think that's being challenged. You have to listen to him for one county to be challenged at 67. Lee County is not challenging what they're the ones we copied. I don't want to worry about the fear of being challenged. I want to go deal with what we have. Enforce the laws
we put in place for the reason we put in place. And that's a board decision. But the version of the ordinance that was challenged in St. John's, I believe, is the Lee County ordinance. They copied
it, too. So, you have that same exposure of litigation. We can defend that litigation, but you got, you know, we may we may have resources tied up in in doing that
defense. It's a business decision for the for the board about whether or not they want to continue continue on that path. Um, but if but if we keep calling it a pan handling ordinance, we will more likely
lose that litigation. I have trouble with the pan handling, but I want to enforce it through the the right of right of uh the safety right away ordinance. So, I may use that term for what the problem is, but it's the it's the ordinance of the safety that I'm looking at. So, if I may add,
Commissioner Mariano Forward, you have been heard. That's why David and Denise wanted to sit with you individually discuss what what are the top issues that you see in your district because our county is diverse. We have more codes and issues than we do
necessarily code enforcement officers or resources to enforce everything. And I've I've had various conversations with various board members on on this topic. We've also looked at things that are of general county concern, right? Look at it like it's it's a room in a house, right? There's there's common areas
maybe where we we want to see things straightened up and then there's areas in in the rooms of the house that that need to be cleaned up. It's kind of the kind of the analogy that we can use on that. Um, and so we're we're looking at that data. We're trying to allocate our resources appropriately. You've you've been heard on that. You know, we're also
taking some steps. I've had some conversations with Commissioner Weightman and others on on how do we look at homelessness, right? That is part of our strategic plan. And uh I think we're having some ideas that we're we're vetting here over the next over the next couple of months that hopefully may address pan handlers, may address
the homeless issues that you're seeing so prevalent in your district and that are cropping up in other districts as well. So I I I just want to assure you that you have been heard um and that we will be bringing things back to you and hopefully we'll we'll find that um they
they suit the needs of our citizens and you and your districts and your constituents. And and one thing about as far as the appearance of 19 as well, Commissioner Starky, one of the things I like that staff's doing right now is they're working on the tree mitigation ordinance, we can actually allow these people and and I want to make sure we set this thing up that we set it up
where it's not just a reimburseable thing or they can like put a bill and get paid right away. But I want to make sure that we can help those business up and down 19 without having to meet the full code, but if they want to dress it up with make good landscaping out there, but we're doing that now. If you drive I I know. I know. That's what I'm saying.
They're doing a good job. people complying now in my district and and I tell you and we've got the money to make it apply and that can help that corridor as well as other corridors too. I say redevelopment too making those those storefronts look nicer. Yeah. Yeah. The one thing I want to touch on
code is that um I did a ride along with Denise. It was like an hour and a half and we came up with a a a plan. So, it was very it was very helpful and she was amazing to work with and I'm really excited to um see the outcome of that.
So, a lot of moving parts to it. It's going to be a huge job, but um we're going to do it. I I am curious if you don't mind me jumping in on your on your issue there. Um is how um that neighborhood was selected. Um we you
know, I drive my district all the time and when I see something a neighborhood going down, um it, you know, it gets noticed in my office, but we also get a lot of calls and and so it's just more
efficient for them since they're reactive, not proactive, that if there's an area that has a lot of issues, um they can go in and do the sweep and then they don't have to just look at the house to the left and to the right, but
they can, um uh take care of a larger area. So I find them very coste effective and you know they go in with warnings, they don't go in with citations. Um so um it it really uh helps some of the neighborhoods if you
don't we have found you know because I have holiday um if you don't go in periodically and remind folks of what the rules are things could go downhill really quickly and so I am
very grateful that we do the sweeps and um and so I just I know my my constitu constituents, they think we're not doing enough. I hear it all the time. We don't care about holiday. You're not in here enough. Um, so, and I'll talk a little
bit about that in my commissioner items, but you're But again, so you listen to your constituents, you listen to yours, you guys listen to yours. I'm listening to mine. I'm telling you what I'm hearing, and it's been going on for a long time. There's ways to improve it. That's why we've done what we've done. But again, if we're going to focus I mean, we've improved a lot of
neighborhoods, but I want to focus on what the biggest problems are first. I'll worry about other things later. But I think it's a hard problem to fix. Sadly, I don't There's going to be a lot of, you know, a lot of opportunities coming up with CBGDR money to try to help these people. Steps recovery is helping people. So, opioid money is
helping people. But at the same time, let the commissioner of the district decide where they going to put the resource. Agreed. It takes a lot of energy to go do those sweeps. And that's just one neighborhood. I still got 300 other ones. Well, they they got it done in a day or two. They get a lot done in
a day or two. Go. I work. Okay. I think as as Mr. Cabala said, we'll we'll continue to work with you and again, homelessness is is strategic plan priority and and we'll continue to and Denise had a lot of
great ideas about that, too. I'm so super impressed with her so far. So, I think she'll be great. Thank you very much. You're doing a phenomenal job. Absolutely phenomenal. Thank you. And actually, Denise brought a great item, an idea to how to deal with something with BCS. So, I thought her idea was
very good. It has to do with who's in charge of what. Okay. Um, so you are you done? I'm done. Yeah. Okay. Mr. So, reading the room. I don't know. I I would I was originally planning to have Ralph come up and just give a quick recap of where we are. If board's interested in that.
If not, um, I can certainly pass. So, I'll defer to the board. I just know we're getting late. What's going on? Yeah, I do too. I've had two conversations with our lobbyist, but if others haven't. I think it's good to hear a little bit anyway. Okay. Well, okay. Come on up, Ralph real quick. I
have three minutes. The high level, we know live local passed unanimously, but we think the opt out is still in. That's the most important thing. And that'll be decided within the tax package. Do I have that right? Okay. Good afternoon, Ralph Lair, our
government affairs officer. So, moving ahead, um the legislature did not finish, but on uh Friday night, they extended, so they'll go back in next week. Uh they've extended till midnight or 11:59 on June 6. We'll take up
appropriations issues, uh the implementation bill and taxation bill, as well as a rural communities bill. Um so what you need to know going forward where we stand the um taxation bill uh that the
house passed out um contains the following uh problematic issues that we'll have to uh hope go away. Uh tourism development tax. Uh the bill provides um revenues to be used uh in
counties for any public purpose rather than being limited to current authorized uses for TDT. Um it would also do away with the tourism development councils. It would dissolve them as of December 31st,
2025 with the Avalor tax uh and which are the property taxes. Um, the bill removes current law requirements uh pertaining to the opt out uh portion of affordable housing that uh passed
last year in the tax bill. Um, it also uh unless otherwise uh exempted, all property in Florida is subject to avalorum tax. Um, the bill the bill modifies exemptions for charitable use of property tax for affordable housing.
uh in this. So those are problematic issues that what we're being told will not probably end up in the final tax bill, but we do not know. That's part of the negotiation uh going forward. Again, this was the House proposal uh not the
Senate proposal. Um as far as the budget's concerned, where do we stand there with our four ask? Uh the East Pasco emergency shelter, we asked $20 million. It's currently in the Senate side for 500,000. We're hope to get that
back up a little bit more. House does not have anything at this time. Uh Trinity Boulevard, the ask was for uh 2.5. Uh Senate has 2.5. House has 1.25. Um the Curly Road safe routes to
schools, the ask was for 1.5, Senate has 1.5, House has 750. So we still have to work on that one. uh the Sepine neighborhood. Uh currently the ask was for 5,823 526. Currently the House nor the Senate
has anything in there. Hopefully we can get something in uh with the sprinkle pot at the end. Um we've been working on the uh appropriations chairs regarding that. And then there's two other issues that uh could come to Pasco County that
are in the pro uh uh in the appropriations uh currently. uh fire station number four. They asked was for $7 million. Uh Senate H uh doesn't have anything in there, but the House has $100,000 currently on that. And then there was
a connector roadway uh to a regional research area. The ask was for $9 million. Senate has $9 million in there. Uh House has zero. So that's where we are going into uh I'm listening to the
beeps. I got to eat. I think that's what they call the hook. So that's where we are going into the special or the extended session. What did you say about the road? So the uh they had an ask in there for $9 million. This was the connector roadway over by Moffett. Okay.
Um Senate has it in there. $9 million. House does not. Um so that's where we are going into what they'll be addressing. Okay. Uh during the extension next week. And then I put out an email on Monday um shows you all the
bills that passed that will impact the county. There's about 20 that we we'll have to deal with um including live local, a platting bill, land use bill. And I read David's um summation of the issues we have. You did a really good job.
Yeah, that's awesome. um on the live local. Since this is a public meeting, I can say what I just told a a group that was in my office, right? Yep. Yeah. Uh you're an engineer working on a live local, no appointments with me. You're a
lawyer working on live local. No appointments with me. You're a land you're clearing land. No, no appointments with me. You're not going to get any appointments with me if you're going on a live local project. That's that was my that's how I'm approaching things. You can tell them whatever you want. I
enjoy welcoming them into the office and giving them the what for right there at the dinner table. And then that that's my approach. I watch them squirm. Okay. Which one are
you guys next? Okay. County attorney. Um this is late in the day to do this, but I'll just mention it and then we can revisit it at another meeting. Um, I'm becoming con increasingly concerned, as
you heard at public comment today, um, with the powers that CDDs think they can wield after if you've established them. And
um we're not through no fault of of the teams that we're not we have not thought about what happens when the CDD when a developer comes in
and does segments their property into multiple CDDs what the relationship between those CDDs are. While it is true that they're public roads, if they've used tax-free financing,
um, if they're CDD2 roads, they're not CDD1 roads. And there is some argument that they think they can privatize the roads from the other residents. And when planning approves
the projects, they don't look at it that way. They look at a holistic network of local roads serving all of the subdivisions. So, um it may and unfortunately this is
another one of those things with the where the legislature has said you have the authority to establish them, but you can't make any conditions on it. It's what the state charter says. Um so you've got the choice of
either not establishing a CDD or um we may think about beefing up the land development code to deal with these issues that seem to be bubbling up that are CDD only issues. Can we put
conditions on the CDD? No. That's what I just said. the legislaturator's basically has said the state charter is because back in the 90s when this started, we would throw in conditions on
CDDs usually about whether or not they were going to use portable water or or other things like that. Um, you can enter into an interlocal agreement with a CDD once they're established, which might
be behoove us because the developer is in control of them then. But what is happening is once the developer is no longer in charge of the CDD and they have elections, they're elected officials and
they want to be they think they come to the same level as you all do. Okay. Well, you heard you heard it from here. All right. Anything else? That's it. All right. Thank you. Hi and thank you. I have two items. Okay. One, during the
budget workshop um on the 26th of March, I believe my inspector general Christine Kano, she reported out about we're watching Senate Bill 7:30 which um would increase the audit authority of my office and I just wanted to give you an
update on that. So on the 3rd of this month, the Senate has and I'll I'm going to read indefinitely postponed and withdrew it from consideration. Oh, nice. So that is that would have had a pretty tremendous impact budget. Um the
other item I wanted to mention is um Operation Standown. It's an annual veterans event. It was held over the weekend, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, April 25th, 26th, 27th. And on that Friday, uh, we hold veterans court and that is
my office, the courts, the sheriff, state attorney, public defender all come together to put it on. And it was a very successful event. We um processed 61 cases there, waved $16,300. Um, well, nearly that. And we
cleared 42 driver's licenses. And Mike Pisano's office, tax collector's office was there. So, they go went from the courtroom um the makeshift courtroom to my my office, my makeshift office to the tax collector's makeshift office, and they left with their driver's license.
The legal one that'll get them into Yeah. Well, I mean, they leave with an actual driver's license. Yes. With got to have that star on it. So, it was just a a great community event, very successful, and I just wanted to to let everyone know about that. We have such great
constitutionals. Okay. Uh, now me, I'm going to try and rip through this real quickly. Um, um, I wasn't at the tunnels to towers, but my staff was because Congressman Billis asked me to attend his senior town hall. I did take some pictures, but uh, it was in Newport Richie and very well attended. The
sheriff was there. Um, a lot of different agencies were there and a lot of our staff. So, um, very well attended. Um, I participated in the Mitchell um, H High School Capstone presentations. Um, very interesting to
hear our seniors with their ideas and, uh, we we've got some great kids heading off to college. Um, attended the Pasco Corrections Quarterly recognition ceremony at Starky Library with our county administrator. He didn't mention that, but that was a very nice ceremony.
Um, finally got to tour hope services. I think that's in Commissioner Weightman's district. If you haven't been there, they've got an amazing program going on. This room right here, um, this lady works for this, I think it's for the state. And these are this is all different kinds of um things that help
people with special needs that they can come in and check out and then uh if if it works for them, I think they can get them provided to them. here. All All I actually have a few of these things um in my house um that help you open cans
and it's for people of all ages. So, I love that thing for the back up there on the upper right. I put it right here on this chair. Yeah. Um, and they have a they have a little um uh they have they teach skills to people with with autism
and others and that's a little uh depart like a grocery store setup where they learn how to check out um food and then they go work for Publix. So, it's very very cool outfit there on uh I think it's Cornerstone um on 41.
Um, I also attended the third annual women uplifting women event. There were some people in from here in this room that were there. Sold out people trying to get tickets and they couldn't get any. Um, it was a great event. I just
I'm so proud of where that group has now come to. Um, the speaker um Effie Santos from Mattie's Movement was amazing. She spoke at our AMSkills um dinner. She her daughter Maddie um was killed in a car
crash at 19 and her daughter cared a lot about her fellow um citizens, her fellow students and kids and very much about um foster kids and so they have a wonderful foster program. But um I just I thought
it was outstanding. You did a great job. Thank you. You did a great job as our MC. I want that picture. Yeah. Can you send that to me? So, um, great event. We need a bigger space for next year. We just we we can almost double that, I think. Awesome. It was awesome, right?
So, thank you all for coming. Um, I uh hosted an early insight night uh for um John Hopkins All Children's. It was a little embarrassing. We had 40 people RSVP and 12 people showed up. But um this is Alicia who is the CEO of John
Hopkins. um they brought a whole busload of their top executives up to the to to Pasco uh for the night and um gave us a a wonderful um talk about what's coming. So, we're very we're so very fortunate to be getting this hospital in in Pasco
County and I'm they'll be looking to stage a lot more events especially coming over to your guys side so maybe you can work with them and they they need people to know what's coming and get out into the community. they have to fund raise quite a bit to make this
hospital happen and um so I hope you'll get involved. Um I attended the Rangeland Boulevard exit workshop extension workshop and um it was very well attended. There was a line out the door to sign in. Um and uh I did give
some of my comments to staff. I want Tina Russo and I we we do want to look at how the Sun Coast Trail is being handled at the at the Sun Coast and Rangeland ex um where they meet. Um I Tony I sent you a picture of Starky
Ranch where the roads are now rangeland um um Commissioner Joerger that that road rangeand has been there since the 70s. It's been planned and for all commissioners to know that that was that was contemplated. Yeah. you remember
when John Gallagher was county administrator and actually it was our family who um in in laying out Starky Ranch wanted two roads and and and frankly I think if I were doing Beexley or uh Angeline I would have done what we
did and that is not put one big road going through their development of Angeline which is Sunlake Boulevard. It's going to be a big road. Um, we pushed for two two roads. So, we have Lake Planch Drive
going east west and we have Rangeland going east west. And I think we would have tried to make the two be more equal. Um, but the developer kind of made rangeand a little superior to Lake Blanch, but they really slowed it down
with the traffic circles. And, uh, the road needs to happen. We can't have only one east west road in Trinity Odessa. We already saw what happened when the the um the oil spilled on 54 and that shut the road down. Um but we
have to be very mindful that communities on both sides commissioner uh in Beexley and in Starky those are walkable bikable communities and they don't they don't want to lose that. So safety is going to be of utmost importance. Um, but I I do
think the roads can coexist with the neighborhood very well. Um, let's see. Uh, we then there was the Tri County workshop. Um, thank you all who attended. We had really great attendance from the other counties. The most we've
ever had, I think, as we're missing just a couple. Um, Lala from Penllis and um, um, the chair Kennega. Yeah, he was just returning from Europe. His son's in school in England. though. Um then uh
afterwards comm the two county administrators, so all three administrators went to Amskills and um a commissioner from Panelis County. And so I thought that went really really well and uh thank you all for for taking that time. Um on Sunday we have hosted the
annual community cleanup in Beacon Square and um it rained in the morning so we thought we weren't going to get a great turnout but um I got there at noon and the trucks were just pouring in. I actually had a hoarder who was um the wife of a hoarder
and they were doing a good job of of getting that stuff cleared out. Apparently they got hit pretty hard in the hurricane and ever since then the husband was just out collecting stuff. You know, people deal with things in different ways. So, um I drove through
the neighborhood. There were a lot of people who should have been participating that weren't. U but I I don't know the numbers. I did not maybe I got the numbers, but I didn't get the numbers to to to see uh how much they got. But look, you can see that pile of mattresses. They were laying in
someone's yard. all those mattresses. So, you know, in my neighborhoods, this is why I like sweeps. I I I don't want those to be out there in people's front yard. So, um let's see. Um oh, and yesterday, um
the county administrator and Kathy Pearson and I attended and Oh, yeah. Uh and Eric, we went through the I can't see you, Eric, so I didn't know you were even here. We we went and toured maps. I don't if you have not toured that. It's the Museum of Archaeology and
Paleontology. And what's the S? I don't remember what the S is. Science. Science. We have a freaking gem. It's at Wendrin. He's got a 5,000 square foot space when he needs 50,000 cuz they have
artifacts from all over the world. They have thousands of kids coming up there and going through. They have summer camps. They've got mummies and they um African mass and just it's just like the
U. It's like the Museum of History, natural history up there. Um so we're going to put our heads together and figure out what we can do. I hope to help him stay here in Pasco County. We're very lucky to have that possible opportunity here. So, thank you very
much. And tomorrow night, uh, 6 o'clock, David, is the second Grand Boulevard. What do you call it? It's a sharet over. Okay. So, we have a at 6:00 we have a Grand Boulevard Cherret
stakeholder engagement. Um, number two, um, it's similar to what we did in uh at Gun Highway in 54. We want to reimagine the Elers community and bring it back to what it was back when uh the train came through there and there was a train stop
there, the Elers Spur and um it's got the bones for a great little community and um and so we're help doing a planning exercise to help help put the bones put the rules back in place that let it grow and become something wonderful again. So I think that's it.
Okay, we are done. Thanks everybody. [Music] [Music]