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There you go. Second time around. Good morning. I would like to call to order the Pasco Border County Commission 10:00 meeting of June 3rd, 2025. At this time, silence all electronic devices and mute your phones. Please rise to the invocation pledge of allegiance.
Good morning. My honor to give the invocation. Chaplain Anthony Shite, Pasco County Fire Rescue. Let us pray. Sovereign and eternal God, we thank you for this our civic business today. We ask that you'll grant leadership and skill to our commission today. Thank you
for our community, our firefighters, policemen, teachers, and our children in our community. Grant us blessing for our community. And we thank you for our blessing. Amen. Amen. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Madam clerk, please call the role. District one, Commissioner Oakley, here. District two, Commissioner Weman, here. District four, Commissioner Joerger,
here. District five, Commissioner Mariano, here. District three, Chairman Starky, excused. She's on online this week. Was online. Okay. She's just muted. All right. Commissioner Ster, you see you. Thank you. Uh now's the time for public comment. Citizens are given
opportunity to comment on any current or future agenda item coming before the board and on other business under the board's purview. Today's public comment will be handled as follows. First, we will take public comment from those who are here in person. Then we will take public comment from those who are pre-register
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their time is up. Madam clerk, do we have anyone signed up for public comment? We do, Mr. Chair. We have um Joseph Bollock. If you could please step up to the podium and then followed by Allison Moore. And there's a couple more. Good morning. My name is Joseph Bol. I
live at 31826 Pasco Road in San Antonio. I'd like to is to address the Marrian Lane subdivision issue. Uh Marian Lane uh is a dirt road maintained by the residents and it crosses the stream the
all metal carpet. There is uh this culbert does not support any type of contractor sanitation companies. Reason this is important is that a contractor is thinking about building a subdivision in the Maran lane during the rainy
season. This often floods. I have the photo of the flood. That's Marian Lane during the rainy season. Okay. Uh also, if you consider the fact that Marian Lane is a privately owned dirt road, once the subdivision is installed,
it now becomes under a different category according to the county code. Uh thus, it's got to meet those county standards as per paragraph 901.6. It's not 26 feet wide, doesn't have 2
and 12 in of concrete, does not have a a minimum clearance of 4 feet. The cover does not meet the standards. Also, it's in table 901.6 alpha must have two through lanes with the culverack. And
finally, has to have a turn wheel. As indicated above, the cover often floods. This is the cover. This was taken several weeks ago at the end of the dry season. As you can see, it's almost getting ready to cover the road
again. There's another photo here of the same creek as it goes over Pasco Road. Quite a bit of difference in the way it's built. This property was normally used for cattle grazing with little rain or other runoff. The property slopes down
to a stream. subdivision will require some type of a pond to prevent this. The design of the subdivision has not made requirement 700.6 considering the soil conditions. I would say due to the conditions of the road residents
must transport garbage to the intersection of Marian Lane. Got to have the picture of the garbage. This belongs this corner belongs to Mr. Bobo and he is not very enthusiastic about having more individuals put their garbage on his
land. Finally, as I look at this, I believe uh if it is approved, then uh the county should ensure that the builder meets all the standards of the road, bridge, and retention. I also believe it should be required to maintain the road for a
minimum of 10 years or new residents be advised of requiring any sales. A review of 506.6 states that each lot must be one acre. If you put in roads, if you put in culde-sacs, if you put in other things, it's only about
three and a half acres left. Okay? Meaning rather than approving five lots, all you should lose is three lots. Thank you, sir. Next up is Allison Moore, followed by
Carrie Heiser. Good morning. Good morning. I'm Allison. I live on Marin Lane and San Dieian. I've been here before in front of you guys about the same issue. Um I've met with uh Commissioner Oakley about it, but I'm here again to you know beg the board to look closer at the project and
the access that's used to get to it. Um myself and my neighbors Oh, I actually have some papers. Did I supposed to move to receive and file to someone? All in favor say I. I. You can bring them to the clerk. I'm sorry.
Um myself and my neighbors, we live in a deedrestricted community um that this access runs right through the middle of on a private road that we pay to maintain um and to um have access to our properties. We believe that the um
increase in traffic will overburden the easement um with no like plan as to how it's going to be maintained. um as if it is now it's like a good neighbor situation like hey will you pay will you pay um you know it's already a
challenge. Can you imagine we're adding five more homes or four more homes to it um to try to get people to you know do anything. Not to mention with the increase in traffic it honestly needs to be improved. like these are the 20 neighbors that I had um against the
project. But I also have pictures again of the flood that Mr. Bol put up there um on the culvert. The culvert is supposed to be um taken care of by swift mud. Um go to the other one, the dry one.
Um it's only 9 foot wide, which is just wide enough for the car. No, not two cars can pass on it. Um, so it bottlenecks there and with the with just the couple of people that use it now, I can't even imagine what it's going to be like with, you know, 50, 60, however many more passes the county has deemed
um to pass on the Culver every day. Um, you know, we've I've been arguing with the county since the planning stage of this and no one has been able to give me any feedback that makes sense. You know, it's a civil matter. Yeah, it's a civil matter that now we're going to have to
spend tens of thousands of dollars to try to address. Um I feel like if you're going to make a project, you should have to address the access to the project, you know. So that's my frustration. Um and my neighbor's frustration is like
even if he has future land use codes, you know, it has to make sense how you get there. Um and you're getting there traversing over our property, our easement that we pay for, we maintain. Um that really logistically is a unique situation. I have actually a um paper in
there that is the um traffic analysis that the developer supposedly did. No. Yeah, I just gave it to her. Can we get those pictures? Did you know? It's one of the most
important ones actually. It says on there that there's no unique traffic safety issues on the road, which I don't know who determined that, but there obviously is issues with safety and traffic on the road. It's
that second page of that right there. I've started as well. You want me to show the rest of the pictures, too? Yeah. The other ones talk about the swift mud um factor that there should
have been some kind of um petition to swift mud because you're crossing over their watershed with the covert that's not um adequate. There's major, you know, logistical issues that have not been addressed by the county. I don't even think the county has come out to even
look at it. They look at it on a map and say, "Oh, look, there's a road." Well, I mean, there is, but there isn't. You know, it's it's not a very nice road. Um, no, that one was already done by Mr. Bolock. I'm talking about the one that
talks about the traffic um analysis. It was on the top. The second one to that. Yep. There's two of them. Yep. Right there. That one with this big star on it. Yep. So, right here, he submitted this that says, "Describe any
unique traffic safety issues with access." And he says, "There's none." That's not true. Like there's definitely, and I've been screaming about it for probably three years now, that there's definite um safety traffic issues with accessing the property. Um
and again, you know, I don't know where this came from. I don't know who did this. This is something I think that he submitted. Um because whenever I talked to the county, they said, "We don't know anything about the road. It's a private road." You know, like that's your problem. Which I guess I get, but at the same time, you know, the county keeps
saying, "Oh, it's a civil matter." And I keep telling them, you're creating the civil matter because you're not addressing the problem with foresight. You know, you're saying, "Oh, too bad. Y'all figure it out, but we're going to approve something that's causing the go figure it out." If it makes sense. Um, and that's frustrating for us, you know,
when we've literally been complaining since the planning stage with no avail. And now here we are still being told like, "Nothing we can do. Too bad, you know, um, go hire an attorney um and work it out yourself." um when like I said the countyy's causing the problem.
So I mean I just feel like that if you guys do your due diligence then you know we won't have this problem. Okay. Thank you. We have Carrie I believe it's Heiser followed by Nancy Hazelwood followed by Cindy Buckle.
Good morning. There's my um so my husband and I own the property at 12505 Marin Lane and we it's a 20acre parcel on one side and the other side of our driveway is the 5 acre parcel owned
by VJ Mariela who and that's the man attempting to subdivide the five acres and um we're here obviously to request that that would get denied um for two reasons. So, the first reason is, as the neighbors have discussed,
um, Marian Lane is actually a private road. It's not countym. Um, and then once you get to right before the covert, I think it is. Um, that's flooded and not properly maintained and not able to hold a lot of vehicles and large
vehicles. Um, then that starts uh the private easement, which is my husband and my uh private driveway. and we just think that it would be unnecessary uh increased traffic and congestion on the whole road including our private easement. So there's two
easements. Um I just want to make sure that makes that is getting conveyed. There's a Marin Lane easement and then there's the easement with uh myself, my husband and Mr. Mariela. Um there's going to be additional wear and tear on our private
easement resulting in higher maintenance costs. There's structural limitations on the covert for the creek. It's already at capacity. It's not in great shape. Um so now if we're going to add in construction vehicles and four more families, it's it's really it's not a
good situation. Um and just to show you some of the financial uh strain that it's put on my husband and me. Um the people that already live, the tenants at 12502 Marian Lane, they have um broken
the our mule gate. It has a gate with a very expensive electronic arm. Um it has a simple button that you push and in we've had many problems with these neighbors, but um instead of pushing the button to open the gate, which is a very simple uh
action, they decided to push it open and it bent the gate. If you want to can I give these to you? Move to receive file. I'm sorry. Should I just show you from here? You can put them there. If you want to put them on the screen, we can put them right over here. Sure. Thank you. Can we um put the partial ID up on
this if we have more people talking? That way we can orient. Can we get the partial ID up there after those pictures? Thank you. I drove that a few months back, so I'm familiar with the area.
need to keep talking. Yeah. So, so anyway, it's just a financial burden. Um, not only for all the neighbors because of maintenance of Mary Lane, but also personally for my husband and me. We now have to replace this U mule arm. They've been unwilling to assist or even
respond um and take any ownership of of the matter. Um, and we're quoted at a minimum $25,000 to try to fight this legally. Thank you. Okay. Thanks. You can see Hazlewood followed by Cindy Buckle.
We never got to see her pictures. We get those pictures up. Can you hang on one second, Nancy? Sure. So, where's your private drive? I've seen this long time ago. That's the key. Okay. All right. If it would go back to
the um she's too good. Okay. If you put the partial ID up, just kind of back it out a little bit so we can get a better overall view. You want her back up? I'll sit down. No, it's okay. I just We're just trying to look at it. Okay. Go ahead, Nancy.
That's the wrong image for me though. Oh, okay. Your image. Go ahead. Um, Nancy Hayeswood 34110110. A nice place. I hope you don't mind listening to what's on my mind this morning. Um, this is the green swamp. It figures very
prominently in the northeast area plan. you if you take a look at that you can see that the northeast royal area plan is kind of protecting the green swamp from the rest of what's going on in Pasco. Um I want to switch from there.
Uh I've advocated for equestrian growth and development in the area but I can't seem to get any traction on it. I know you all have a growth and development people on board, but nobody seems to look at that yet. You've got
Ocala down the way. It's second in the country for equestrian. Why can't we pick up? I don't want to be Ocala, but let's pick up what they have. Why isn't this economic development done in a different way? I know we've got a bunch of
sports and you pick that up, but everybody's got sports. Nobody has us. Where else but Florida can people bring their horses in the wintertime? We've also got the little Everglades sitting over there. I don't know how they feel about, but maybe somebody could approach
them. That was a huge fundraiser for Northeast Rural and the county and that could have gone places. So, um, if we can't go equestrian, where are we going to go?
I'm, you know, I'm hearing things like, you know, we need a wellfill. Why do we need a wellfill? We aren't supposed to grow in northeast. We need a wastewater treatment plant. Why do we need a west wastewater treatment plan? If it's for the rest of Pasco, let's put it on the
rest of Pasco, not way out in the north end. So, there's many things that I have on my mind. And y'all are approving things that are going to whittle it down. Let's slow it down. Take a look at
where it can go. What we can do to save our water resources in the green swamp. The Brooksville Ridge figures in there. We've got something that's unique and wonderful. Do you really want to garbage it up with 10 houses per acre or
apartments like the rest of it? Because that's where it's going right now. I mean, it doesn't look like it, but I've watched this for how many years? 20 now. Anyways, thank you for being patient with me. I appreciate it. Okay,
so uh Mr. Chair, the last one I have signed up in person is Cindy Buckle. If you would come to the podium and then I do have someone online. Okay, Cindy Buckle, 5938 Frontier Drive, Zephr Hills, Florida, 33540.
I want to start off with the fact that I have a bachelor's degree in wildlife ecology and conservation. But my big thing is the equestrians. I have had horses my entire life in Pasco County. 30th Street was
30th Street. Highway 54 was Highway 54. I showed horses my entire life. I have moved three times now because development has flooded my pasture. I can no longer afford to move to any of the equestrian properties that are being offered in Pasco County because they
start at 500,000 for 2 acres up to 2 million for 43 acres. I don't have that kind of money. I have been forced off two properties and I'm currently living on Frontier Drive which is an equestrian
community and right now there is development happening at the corner of Gateway and and Marks which is or Gateway and 54 which is the only way we have to get into Frontier Drive. Frontier Drive was
severely flooded after Hurricane Milton and it wasn't because um the whole reason was because there's no kind of drainage. It is a private road. Um we have ponds on the road. We
want to keep it private. And right now the trucks that are dumping dirt onto that 27 acre property are coming down our road, destroying our road, turning around at the end of the road and destroying it. We do not want our road repaved. Every resident on the road has
signed a petition to say so. We have maintained it. We don't want it taken care of. My question is, Ocala has built equestrian places and I'm talking 5
acres and while that's fine, but if you could bring equestrian properties here, even a 20 acre property or some kind of area where boarding facilities could be given to people who have horses. I know people right now that are selling their
horses because they have nowhere to go with them and I'm over it. I am personally it's just it's hard and right now we're losing our places to ride horses. We actually have to put them in
a trailer to take them somewhere to ride. And this is a shame because Pasco County, I've ridden horses for 50 years. And it's time for you all to look at
the more more space instead of the zero lot line cookie cutter homes. And we don't need any more industrial cement plants in the rural areas. We have to save some rural Pasco. Thank you. Thank you. Is there anyone
else in the audience who would like to address the board before I go to online? I will close public comment in the room online. Okay. Um Mr. Ross Jerger, we have elevated you. If you would like to unmute, you can begin um your your comments after you've stated
your name and address for the record. Morning everyone. Ros G 136 drive. Thank you. You may proceed. My question and comment today is with
regards to the water shut offs by water with the county. He is eventually taking that over and I was in a chain with assistance and some other people
from the uh relative departments from the county and that kind of just suddenly stopped. We didn't get the responses that we were told we were going to get and uh not only as a member of the community and constituent, I'm also a member of the media. We've got a
bunch of people that have gone on record to say that they're pretty frustrated with the unannounced shut off with water in the middle of the day in the middle of the laundry washing dishes, whatever they're trying to get done around the
house and all of a sudden that stops with no notice. today's uh invite for today's meeting I got at 9:54 a.m. today. So the issue is the communication and healthcare and the
commissioners and the county uh better improve that and make it more efficient and even existed. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I have no one else. All right, that'll end public com public comment.
We're going to go to the consent agenda. I have one item so far listed as C29 to be pulled. Are there any other polls from the consent agenda? No. Okay. Not hearing any. Uh move to approve the rest of the consent agenda.
Second. All in favor? Mr. Chair, can we find out whether Commissioner Starky's voting? Because if she is, then we need a roll call. Is she allowed to? She can. Captain, we do roll call, please. I'll do roll call. District one, Commissioner Oakley. I. District two, Commissioner
Weightman. I. District four, Commissioner Joerger. I. District five, Commissioner Mariano. I. District three, Chairman Stark. Hi. Okay. And Commissioner Waitman, C29. Yes. Just wanted to highlight C29. um excited to see this this come forward
and appreciate 4G Ranch and working with Florida Department of Agriculture and our county zamp program to preserve 1,800 acres uh offic 52 and 4G. So, I just want to pull that and, you know, highlight that item and
excited to see what we might be able to do and how quickly we might be able to preserve it and what we might be able to, you know, accomplish working with land owners like these. So, Mr. Chair, with that, I move approval. Second. And just a little further discussion, I'd like to say that I I appreciate the U 4G
Ranch doing that with us uh with Department of Agriculture. I think it's great to kind of protect it. I I know people don't want to see 54 I mean 52 grow like 50 54 did. So I think it'll be good to keep it a little bit rural up there and that's a great way to start. So we appreciate it too. All in favor
say I. I. Any oppos? District one. District one commissioner Oakley. Hi. District two commissioner Waitman. Hi. District four commissioner Joerger. Hi. District five commissioner Mariano. Hi. And district three chairman Starky.
Hi. Okay. And now we'll go to regular R31. Draft a future action plan presentation. Good morning, chairman, board, county commissioners. Joanna Cheshire, chief of staff, county administration. Uh, I'm here to introduce regular item 31. This
is a presentation only for you today, but it will be back before you the next board meeting on June 17th for hopefully your approval. What we have for you today, the presentation is a very abbreviated version of what we've provided during the three public hearings on our action plan over the past month and the one-on
ones that we gave to you all leading up to this meeting. June 17th is a big day for us because we hope that the action plan is approved and we send that to HUD, get the ball rolling there. Um, but it also is the day that the solicitations for the implementation consultant are due.
Um, so that we're really rocking and rolling. Um, I want to just before I pass this over to Marcy and Connor, um, let you all know, if you don't know already, that, you know, we've been in communication with HUD and they did review our action plan, just kind of non-binding, just a a preliminary
review, and they did say that they read every word of it, and this is one of the best ones they've seen. So, we're very proud of the team and the work that we've done. This truly is kind of the the uh training of the marathon here, the the piece that not a lot of people get to see, but a lot of work goes into
it. um before we can go to our our six-year marathon with uh implementing uh this funding. So, with that, I'll pass it over to Connor. Thank you, Joanna. Good morning, commissioners, and thank you for allowing us to speak today. My name is Connor Donovan. I'm a program
administrator with the Office of Disaster Recovery Resources, affectionately referred to as Odor. Uh so, we'll get into it today. Um just a quick introduction. We're going to try to be really brief so it feels like like I'm skipping over anything. If you guys want to ask us any questions at the end,
obviously we're here. Uh it's a community development block grant for disaster recovery. It was announced in January 2025 that we would be receiving $585 million. Uh just as a note, it is a six-year cost reimbursement grant. And
in order to gain access to that funding, we need to submit our action plan and some other pregrant audit type of stuff. So, don't think that we have that money right now and we're just sitting on it. That's not the case now. That'll never be the case. Even once we get the grant agreement, after our action plan is approved, it would come to us in the
form of a line of credit. Um, of that $585 million, $59 million is for our unmet needs. So, that's all the different allocations we're diving up. And then 76 million is a set aside amount for mitigation specifically. So,
as we move forward in this presentation and our action plan, whenever you hear mitigation, just think that $76 million we don't have any wiggle room with just yet. That that cannot go up, that cannot go down until we get a couple years into our program and we can identify all the
other things we're doing to justify a potential increase. Um, another note on this slide is those three specific storms, hurricanes Idalia, Helen, and Milton. Uh those are the three storms we received this grant funding for. That is all that
this grant funding can be used for. And so when I say that, that means direct and indirect impacts from those three storms. God forbid we get hit with another hurricane this summer or some no-name storms. This funding cannot do anything to help us address those. It has to stick to those three named storms
on this slide. So program basics, just to go over it real quick, you see housing up there. Number one, it is a grant from the Department of Housing and Urban Development. So, naturally, that's kind of the the top priority that HUD looks at. When it comes to housing, we're
really focused on two components. Uh individual housing programs, which are things like reimbursing people for repairs they've already made to their homes, helping them demolish, rebuild, elevate their homes, those one-on-one individual type of projects. And then
there is larger housing development things like senior housing, transitional housing, low-income housing. Um those are kind of the two sides of the housing coin. And then the only other eligible uses I'll really touch on because it can get kind of confusing is infrastructure
and mitigation. Those projects um as far as types of projects go are very very similar. The difference is that infrastructure is fixing or addressing things that were damaged due to the storms, whereas mitigation is lessening future impacts regardless of what
happened during the storms. So, kind of a good example when we're thinking that through is if I lived on the water and my house got flooded, my area got flooded, it destroyed the road, it destroyed my lift station. Well, fixing the road and fixing the lift station is
an infrastructure project. I'm making an improvement based on damage from the storm. If I wanted to build a seaw wall or elevate that lift station or insulate that lift station so it doesn't happen again, that's a mitigation project because it's not something that existed before. We're just putting that in so
that it lessens future impacts. So mitigation and infrastructure very closely tied together and mitigation is the only category that does not have to tie back to the storms directly or indirectly. So mitigation is definitely going to be our most competitive
category. As far as key spending requirements go, 70% of our total grant funding, so 70% of that $585 million has to be spent on low and moderate income individuals, households, or areas. And so what that looks like is if you're a
household of one person, that's just over $58,000. If you're within that income cap, you would be considered LMI. If you were a family of four, it would be just about 84,000. You'd be within that income cap. Uh you got to meet one of HUD's three national objectives
benefiting LMI. We just went over. You could eliminate blight or address an urgent need. Have to tie back to impacts from the storm unless it's mitigation. And then it has to address an unmet need with no alternative funding source identified. And so really what that means is just no creative accounting. If
we adopt something in our budget this year, we are not able to shift that around later on and pay for it with the grant. Um, however, we can address funding gaps. So, if we got uh $2 million for a $3 million project in our budget, this could fill in that last
million to get us over the finish line. So, draft action plan methodology. Thankfully, it was not just us sitting in a room thinking of what's going to stick and what percentages look good. There's three ingredients for drafting our action plan allocations. The first
is the HUD requirements we just went over. The second is community feedback and the third is our unmet needs data. And so those three things combined get us the allocations we're going to talk about today. So, community feedback, we held four uh
town halls before we developed our action plan to kind of aid the creation of that. And then we held three public hearings after it was posted to get feedback and see where we missed the mark, were we happy, did we land, where we needed to land. Um, we also attended different community events, chamber of
commerce meetings, nonprofits, the hurricane expo. Uh what you see up there is really what we found. Regardless of method of communication, people want to move back into their homes and they do not want the storm to impact them the
same way that it did this time. Really, housing and infrastructure were the top two regardless of what we did. Whether it was a survey, an interactive budget game, um our actual in-person comments, housing and infrastructure were the top two far and
away. Now, when it comes to unmet needs data, you might look at this and see only three categories even though we just on a couple slides ago had six eligible funding categories. That is correct and it is confusing and that's the way HUD does it. So, I apologize for that. Uh, but they want you to focus on
the three core aspects of recovery even though you can spend it across six categories. Those three core aspects are housing, infrastructure, and the economy. When you see these percentages up there, I really want to emphasize these are not our allocations. This is
just the data piece. This is just the data piece. So, one of those three ingredients that make up our action plan. And we also recognize that the data is flawed. Okay? But it is the best that we have available. And why is it flawed? Because every town hall we went to when we would ask people, did
insurance or FEMA identify your damage and give you an accurate assessment? And so if I had $10,000 worth of damage, FEMA said, "You had $10,000 worth of damage." And I think they just about booed me out of the room. They started throwing stuff because that is just not the case. Okay.
So, we are using FEMA estimates. We are using insurance data. U we're using Small Business Administration, FEMA reporting. And what this really comes down to is our estimated impact numbers, which are the insurance claims and FEMA
damage reporting totals. minus our funds available, which has nothing to do with the grant. That's the claims paid out and FEMA assistance paid out, equals your unmet needs number on that bottom row. We just increase it by
30% to account for a couple things. One being inflation over the course of the six years we have to spend this money. And the second being how much federal projects cost more than other projects in terms of Davis Bacon law, um, increased building standards, that kind of thing. And so when Amy gets up here
later, she can verify that I am really bad at math, but this is simple. It's your estimated impact minus funds available, which is your claims paid out, equals unmet needs. And that unmet needs number is just increased by 30%.
So times 1.3. So again, that is just one of the three ingredients. So where do we actually land? We land on these program allocations. I'm going to turn it over to Marcy to talk through some of our different programs that make up these percent allocations.
Good morning. And for the record, Marcy Esper, senior program administrator for the Office of Disaster Recovery Resources. And for the record, the only one that calls us odor is Connor. And also for the record, just in
case you think that we've been out and we've been uh thrown things at, nobody ever threw anything at Connor at any of our meetings. So, I just want to clear that up for the record. So, we're going to go over uh how we're going to spend the money because that's exactly what
this is all about. Uh $585 million. We have um used what I would call the KISS principle. We've kept it simple. Uh rather than coming up with lots of different programs, we aggregated programs as much as we could in response
to again the data that we received and the community uh the community input. And uh first we're going to start off with our housing uh programs for $35 million. We've divided that into
three programs and I will tell you that almost every meeting that we went to people said please you this use this money to get people back in their homes. So we took that very seriously and created a repair reconstruction and
elevation program RRE for short for $155 million. In this program, we will repair, reconstruct or elevate if needed in a flood zone uh owner occupied housing units. So, um that will be the
original footprint of the house, but when we uh if it as we build it back, we will be using energy efficient meth um materials. Uh we could add handicapped accessible uh uh uh rails uh ramps,
things like that that are needed for for people. Uh and then if it is located in a flood zone, we would elevate it up to what is needed. Uh in addition to doing our repairing and reconstruction, uh
what we also are suggesting that we do is reimburse people because we know that some people have not waited. They've they they want to get back into their house. They want to make sure that uh they have a safe place to live. So they've started their reconstruction or
they've finished it. And so we want to be able to reimburse them for that work. So, if they have receipts, nobody else has reimbursed them for that work, we want to be able to reimburse them for that work. And if maybe they just did
the minimum amount to get back in, but there's other things that they really need to do to get that house livable or up to code, we can add to it with the rest of our reconstruction. So, we will do that for owner occupied. And also in this program, we're suggesting that we
do it for small rental properties for uh either rental single family properties, but also a duplex or a triplex uh uh under four or five units. Uh we could also do the same thing. Uh in addition, we could do dem demolition clearance of
properties. And I just want to be clear about the difference of meeting uh the HUD national objective. So if we're doing this for an income qualified person, then that meets the LMI standard, but let's say there's a
property that needs to be demolished and we don't do anything else with the property. That is a different in category and so that doesn't count to your LMI. Uh but we can do that and we could also do voluntary buyout for
properties and uh allow the the space to then become green space. Uh so in addition to that Marcel let me stop you just for a second on that issue. Um in my meeting yesterday we talked about this a little bit and I just want everyone to think about this as we go through it. This is a high level thing
so we can make changes as we go because it's not super specific to exactly what we do but as far as one of the things I'm going to be looking for is if you have affordable housing you don't want affordable housing in to me a flood zone. Uh Leisure Beach Van Durham we had
that project take him in. We couldn't get we couldn't use CDBG money. We're going to try to buy it years ago because the HUD wouldn't allow it. So my thinking is why would I want HUD funding to go put affordable housing in a flood zone, right? Doesn't make sense to me.
So I want you to take a close look at that. I'm not going to I'm going to be looking at that closely as it comes forward. Uh so I just want to make that point. Go ahead and proceed. So, the next uh program that we are proposing is a manufactured housing program uh for $50,000 $50 million. See,
I'm taking the thousands like you did, Commissioner Mariano. It's so got to start thinking in terms of millions. Um so uh uh we had a number of our seniors and Commissioner Joerger was on the front lines of all of this uh that live
in they they retired. They bought mobile homes uh down in um as specifically even west of of 54. And they were living independently. They were living well and they uh the hurricanes came along and
they lost everything. They they lost everything and now they have no place to live. Some of them are actually at our Pasco Hope uh and and some are have relocated and found apartments to live in, but none of them could live as
inexpensively as they did uh while they were living that way. So we are proposing to do the same thing uh to repair uh or uh replace uh single family owner occupied manufactured
homes. It does not have to be on their own lot. It could be within a park and uh we could also reimburse those people if they've done any kind of work in their homes. We can do that as well. Um and then as well as demolition and
clearance of those properties and uh buying them out and helping people to relocate to other places. In both of those uh scenarios, we're talking about replacing like for like. So uh so whatever is the footprint of the house,
whatever was the footprint of the mobile home, replacing it with manufactured, modular or other type of housing. and um for the residential homeownership replacing the house as it exists. And then if I stop you again, Marcy, thanks.
And I just want to cover these points just because these things are going to come up later, but it's good to discuss it. Um I was at a affordable conference down with Senator Brandis. He had it last year, had it again this year about trying to work with it as far as hurricane recovery as well as just overall affordable housing. And one of
the things we had a speaker there talk about manufactured homes. So one of the fears was we don't want to just have mobile homes redone, put out there, etc. We'd like to get those changed over. A manufactured homes goes to a different set of standards of the Florida building code, but they still can withstands and
they do things a little bit differently to win duration to to make it so that it's safe or safer sometimes than a regular home build. So uh that is what they're talking about manufactur. So don't be scared of the mobile home thing. it's still going to be a safer construction. Um, as far as voluntary
buyouts and relocation, I want you to consider this. Our our prime real estate should be along the coast anyway. So, as long as we're elevating properties and going, I'm not going to be looking too many buyouts where I can't use that land again for someone else to come in that wants to build a nice structure that'll be worth a lot of money and improve the
demographics of the west side as well. Yeah. So, just kind of to keep that in mind. Thank you, M. Okay. Thank you, Commissioner. Uh to your point about mobile homes versus versus manufactured, that same speaker probably said that a mobile home has not been built since
1977, that the current structures are manufactured homes. And they uh when Hurricane Andrew came through, they all took a much more stringent uh look at uh wind safety and other things. So yes, that's exactly what we're talking about.
Now, let's go on to the last category, and that's our affordable uh housing construction program. Uh, and for hund00 million, what we're talking about is acquiring and building either new single family homes, and that would be either
in infill property or perhaps a small development, as well as uh new construction of uh rental units. Again, on the smaller side, duplexes, uh, quadlexes, triplexes, as well as, uh,
multifamily units like senior housing. uh we would be able to do uh something very unique and that would be buying out some of these mobile home parks uh that were completely destroyed and maybe
doing a demonstration project in those mobile home parks of some new and innovative uh construction whether it be Lego homes or uh container homes or different types of housing. Uh so uh this gives us a real opportunity and let
me finish the housing category by just saying that we went into the hurricanes with a deficit in affordable housing in meeting the needs of people 80% and below of the median income and then we lost another 8,500 units. So this
strategy is uh bringing about 30% of the money of that unmet need uh to bring more housing and better housing into the county. The next area that we're going to talk about is infrastructure and uh
as Connor said it's um infrastructure and housing were the two front runners everywhere we went. When even when I spoke to complete business communities, everybody said we need housing, we need infrastructure. So we divided our infrastructure money of $130 million
into two categories. Uh the first category is critical infrastructure. This money will only be available to our municipalities and the county. And this critical infrastructure is just what we would all think of. uh roads, uh
evacuation routes, storm water improvements, flood uh improvements, water, wastewater, uh dredging. Uh we talked um even just earlier about uh about power uh and utilities that could involve some of that as well. Uh and
then the second area of infrastructure is for public facilities. And we do know that when we and that's for $30 million. Uh during the hurricanes, uh we uh put people in schools, they they go into
community centers. We had uh our libraries being used and sometimes those public facilities sustain damage um and they're not able to function a as well as they did before and they could function better. So, uh, public
facilities will be open not only to our municipalities and to the county, but also to our nonprofits, including our hospitals. And that could improve, uh, the public facilities, do clearance, demolition, rehab, and reconstruction of
buildings. Uh, we could also do acquisition of real property, which speaks to the idea of acquiring um, utilities. If I could stop jump stop it one more time. Um I want people to know that as far as like the infrastructure I think it's the biggest opportunity we've
got and it's also the probably the best value for a lot of things that we do because as you heard they they put money in for inflation that takes six all for six years. So it may drive up numbers with these infrastructure projects. You get a couple of benefits. First of all you you lessen your administration cost
of a project that was going to go through. Second, you're going to lessen the inflation lessen the inflation effects are going to be out there as well. Um, right now out in Hudson for the second time in two weeks, we've got Hudson Waterworks having main breaks that are out there that may be causing
some storm water mixed with uh our storm water and and their freshwater um that they're trying to go. That could be one of the things we take a look at and that was something that we looked at 20 years ago. So, it's not not a brand new idea. uh the utility company that's out there is when we first tried to get and if we
took both of them together it could be a good thing but as far as everything else that we do I I wanted to focus those big projects could be a much better value as we're as we're taking these steps so we're going to move on to another category and that would be economic
revitalization so we're now into our green portion of our rain bar chart uh for $25 million uh and we've created a small business and nonprofit recovery program. Uh, and this would be used uh
for businesses that need to replace damaged signs, m machinery, perhaps inventory, equipment, any repairs for physical damage uh and any technical assistance related to the recovery. It could also be used for job training or
job retraining as people lost jobs or uh even industries were hurt that they could be redirected into something new. And that would be $25 million both for businesses and nonprofits. Next, we're going to go to
public services and specifically uh $10 million because as we know, recovery is not just about putting people back into their homes. or fixing buildings, but it's also about people and the human
element. And many of our people are still going through recovery and in places where they are uh in temporary living situations. So when we look at that and we look at the fact that we
have uh some of our seniors living on a fixed income, losing all of their housing, so now needing case management, perhaps some budgeting and learning how to live on $900 a month. uh legal services and getting uh the uh the
getting the um the their applications reviewed or their services that they uh believe they're entitled to. Uh employment and recovery services, homelessness, food security, and basic
needs. So that's $10 million that will be for nonprofits. Uh and that will be for the next six years. We did talk about mitigation. Uh and again the difference between infrastructure and mitigation is that
all the previous programs that we talked about that I mentioned um the housing, the infrastructure, economic revitalization and public services, they all have to tie back to the storms. So it either directly or indirectly there needs to be the tieback. However, for
mitigation, what we're looking at is building back stronger. We're building a stronger Pasco County and for $76 million, I will tell you that this is going to be our most competitive money uh area because people uh especially all
of our governments are all looking at ways that they could improve their infrastructure that wasn't necessarily damaged by the storms. So again, uh we could do improvements to infrastructure, we could do improvements to public facilities. Uh we could do clearance,
demolition, reconstruction. And the key for this $76 million, which is very unusual for a federal grant, is it can be used to match another federal grant, which is almost unheard of. So in this case, we
could use a little bit of this money to leverage and get more money uh from other grant sources. Uh so those are uh $76 million for mitigation. As Connor said, that is a set amount that cannot
change. Uh uh perhaps after a couple of years, if we show that we've met the other needs, we could go back and ask HUD for a waiver so that we could do more on mitigation. But as of now that that m that amount cannot go up or
down. So uh we're rounding out our programs and the next one we created was a planning uh program. Planning for a better future. We allocated $10 million for that. And planning is just really what it says. We're talking about
preparedness plans, hazard plans, feasibility studies uh for uh perhaps for uh storm water, for mitigation, for uh infrastructure. Uh we can do capacity building for nonprofits. We can even
look at some uh creative and different building uh housing delivery services. And then once we uh investigate it and see what works well in this area, then do a demonstration new housing development somewhere. So it's a nice connection. Same thing with mitigation
or feasibility, we could do the study first. And if if all the ducks line up and and it's right, then we could fund it under infrastructure or mitigation. And lastly, we have administration for 29 million uh
dollars. And this is a set amount also from HUD. It's 5% of the grant and those are the costs that uh are related to developing, managing and overseeing the entire program for the next six years. Uh these all these numbers are tracked
and audited by HUD. Uh these will not only pay salaries and pay uh consultant fees. Um uh it will also pay for projects that perhaps don't follow through and that happens all the time.
We could be uh doing a house and it turned out that the person maybe really wasn't income qualified or when further further investigation in an infrastructure project, we found that it can't go forward. That's considered a
failed project. We can't use grant money for that, but we can use admin money for that. So, that's our cushion so that I don't have to stand in front of you and say, "Oops, uh, we did it wrong and I need money from your general fund to cover it." So, that's what we use the
admin for. Can I ask a question? So, I was wondering as we're picking the firms to help us kind of spend this money, is there any way that we could have a presentation by each of them kind of like we did with the lobby firms? So,
you if I I'll I'll answer that. We currently have a solicitation underway. We have a selection committee made up of of staff members and assistant county administrator for our normal policies and then we'll bring a short list uh to the board like we would normally do during that process. Okay. That's how
it's currently structured. I mean, and they'll be able to do a presentation. Uh, they will do presentations to staff. Staff will make a selection and recommend that. If I'm hearing that the board So, can the short list do a presentation to the board? I would probably advise you that it would be I mean, we can get into the legal
ramifications here with procurements. I mean, the board can always do what it wants to do, of course. I mean, um, but I would I would suggest we we let staff make the suggestions and the recommendations to the board. That would be where I'm sitting with it. But if the board wants to be involved in it, um, I
would love to be your prerogative. Yeah. I'd like to say that I think, you know, $585 million, this is like life-changing for the county. Picking out who's going to be looking at what what their experience is. If there's a way to get it done, um, I'd like to bring it where we could look at it. I mean, you have
the authority to veto or or move the numbers of of what the staff does. I mean, that would be fine. Let's see. Commissioner Oakley wants to add, but Commissioner Oakley. Yeah. I just want to say that we have a very good process in purchasing and and doing these jobs and construction jobs throughout the
county and we've always let our staff present that and do it in the way they do and they've done a very good job and kept us out of hot water with attorneys and things of that nature. So, I would tend to I don't mind hearing about who's going to be doing it, but the fact of it
is I would let our process go through like it has in the past, and it keeps us out of u our hands being on things that shouldn't be on through the attorneys and things of that nature. So, we're set up to take care of those things in in
the administration. Mike, regardless of what consultant gets elected, the final decision of how this money is spent will come to the board. Correct. So, you're going to have input to your point, you're going to you're going to have that input. Yeah, true. Um, but I mean, the dialogue of
sometimes asking questions that want to be asked. Um, is there a way that we can set up to have it before the board without I'll defer to the person director who's here. Commissioner W, you want to add anything
at this point? I think that the procurement process ought to play itself out. And I tend to align with Commissioner Oakley on wait letting staff pick who the most qualified person is. And if it's close,
like if it's if it's close and then purching director says, "Hey, what do you what do your guys spidey senses?" Then we we take a look. But I mean, if it if the procurement shows that there's one firm that comes out, you know, way ahead of another,
um, that could be kind of, yeah, dangerous. And why didn't we do that with the lobby firms? I have no idea why. Well, the on the lobby firms, the board did serve as the selection committee on that, and that's that's for good reason. These are your lobbyists, and they're representing us, you know,
in Tallahassee and in Washington DC. on typical procurements for services that's typically deferred to the team. We we have an assistant county administrator that sits on those selection committees along with technical experts and staff who are actually you know skilled at looking at what what these folks are are
going to bring and and again we shortlist them. We always bring that short list to the board and then the board ultimately will will agree or disagree on on the contract. It has happened in the past where board has gone against a you know a staff decision and that's that's perfectly fine. To be
clear, Commissioner I I'm different. I just am hesitant to inject into the middle of a of a procurement um until it's until it's done with protests and different things that can
arrive and then delay delay the process. If it comes to where we want to see or hear, I'd be glad to hear them out. I just tend to be cautious in a procurement process. just simple facts of protests and delays and compounding
of months and times which ultimately you know pains everybody. I agree with that. My concern would be with the lobby and it it did take time in terms of coordinating schedules and there there is a schedule element but Carrie any color to lend? Yes. Carrie Roberts,
perks director for the county. It is allowable, but again, I would also recommend against it for protest reasons that you know, you all be the deciding board body if there is a protest. So, it would come back to you at that point. When we do bring the short list to you, if you have questions at that point, you can send staff back to to get answers
for that as well. So, so let let me ask this. and I don't need to necessarily be the part of the selection committee itself, but when it when the contract's going to get written, there's going to be certain things I'm looking at what I want to go after. So, in your
procurement as as you've got it and and again, we got $29 million of admin. I don't want that going out. I mean, if we really need to go, that's why I think like bigger projects with the Gulf Consortium. Escambia County, for an example, picked one project to do. Their
administration costs were like 1%. Compared to what, four or five or sometimes 10% if you did a a reef project? Much more effective. When you're putting this procurement out and this is going out there, are we able to look at what they're going to do per project to what they're going to get
paid all the way every step? Yes, sir. All right. So then that's and that's I'm comfortable with that because again this could be a 585 million process already in place 585 million there'll be a lot of eyes on this thing every step of the way. So anything stepped out so be it. But I think once we have the contract in
place if we've got flexibility to what we're going to negotiate let's say you're going to do a transfer of the Hudson Waterworks and NY Florida or the old NY Florida and we negotiate what that number is going to be. If we go look at doing whatever projects may be, if we can look at what those admin numbers are going to be and negotiate
those, I'm okay with that. But I do think after the selection, they should come in, do a full presentation, and let us go ask our questions so we can kind of get where they want to go, we want to go. If you're okay with that, uh, I I I'm comfortable with that, too. Yes,
sir. Okay, I'd be fine. Yeah. Okay. All right. Thank you. Yep. Good dialogue. So let me just uh wrap up with our timeline. Uh we published our draft action plan on uh May 12th and according to HUD we have to leave it open for 30
days of public comment. So we are in that public comment period until June 12th. Uh and then we plan to come back to you uh at your next meeting on June 17th to ask you to approve uh the action
plan. It does need to be submitted to HUD by June 20th and uh they have 45 days to review it because we gave it to them ahead of time and got such positive reviews from them. We expect that the 45
days will not be all of 45 days but it'll be less than that. And then the next step will be for uh us to get a grant agreement from them uh get it signed and then we should be able to
roll out our uh initial programs. The very first program that we roll out will be our uh individual assistance, housing assistance. And I'll tell you it will make Pasco County proud. and Pasco County really looked good that almost a
year after the storms we'll be starting a program like that which is very very unusual and we heard some of that during our public hearing. So uh that concludes our presentation. Uh as uh the county
administrator and Joanna uh chief of staff have said we got very positive reviews from HUD and um can't take all the credit for that. I do want to uh acknowledge our uh consultants that we had working on this from M that are with
us today. Uh Tim and Jess. Uh they've been to every meeting that we've had uh and traveled all over the county with us and really to their credit. Uh I think they have absolutely steered us in the right direction. So, thank you. And
Connor and I are here to answer your questions. Okay, we'll start with Commissioner Roley and work our way back. Okay. Um, you took my thunder away because I was going to brag on you. So, please go right ahead. Go right ahead. Everything I've heard you say and and do and and
watch with a step back away from what y'all were doing came out very very good for FEMA. I know they gave you high remarks about the fact that the process did what it was supposed to do and I think it's because of your experience in
doing these type things. U that was part of it that made this stand out very much to FEMA on the if if my words are right they uh they said it was one of the best presentations of the use of this kind of money uh of all counties that that had
been look they had looked at. So, so thank you very much. Thank you. And I know it's not just you. It's their staff members behind you and other people that help guide the way that you don't get there by to the top by just walking by yourself most time. Most time you got a
lot of support staff that are there with you. So, thank all the staff that that is a part of that. So, thank y'all for the work you did. Thank you. Commissioner W. Thank you. to echo Mr. Oakley's wonderful job out there in the public and listening their to their
passions and concerns and and their needs. Still a lot of confused and stressed folks out there for sure. Um is for on the economic side uh revitalizing and helping small businesses or
businesses generally fix their signs. That's probably millions of dollars in savings with, you know, the six figure sign restoration quotes that businesses are are getting back and engineering that goes along with those. I think that's just fantastic and it'll go
towards, you know, Commissioner Stark's sign ordinance uh efforts to bring signs into compliance and make businesses look look better. But also, I think we ought to move expeditiously on that to to ease businesses, hey, I need my sign up. That
way, folks know where we are. Um, we hear it all the time. Folks need, you know, they're trying to figure out a how to comply and then if their signs busted, the additional stress and expense that comes with with the signs. Um, next on the affordable housing
piece, the 100 100 million you alluded, Marcy, what in our conversations and alluded to today. So, my understanding we're needing 8,500 affordable units in this county
approximately. Well, that we lost 8,500 units and not all of them were affordable. Actually, our studies are showing that we're 36,000 units in a rears for people 80% and below of the median income. Thank
you. So, as we move forward, what I don't want to see is under the, you know, verbiage of affordable housing that just be a proliferation of apartments going
up all over this county. And of course with those projects, those take years to build. And I know I've mentioned this in our conversations. I think it's important that we we figure out a way, if we haven't already, to use this money to use the existing apartment stock,
which could get people we use the funds and get people into a safe, good quality place to live really anywhere in this county. people want to move and come into Wesley Chapel or wherever and go to a different school for their kids. Um I
think that instead of building more that we try to find a way even if we have to waiverss or vouchers or other programs to use our lobbyists that we have to to allow us to use the existing apartment stock that we have in this county. Um six years is a long time to help
somebody and you know we have plenty of stock. there's two months free two months free rent all across this county signs going up and there's there's a a healthy inventory. Um so I think that's that's an important piece that we need to look at and if we can't do it we
can't do it but I think it's important to explore uh the opportunity there and it helps those businesses fill their bets too. Um do you mind if we hang on that point for a little bit discussion just because I think all these things if we go one by one to catch them all be a
little bit trickier. Yep. So, uh, you want to talk first, Comm to to this item? Yep. Okay. So, what what I look at is as far as families going trying to get started and, you know, they've gone through, let's say, a really tough thing right now. I want to look at trying to
do some home ownership. Um, I want to try to help um, you know, the Habitats, Humanities, and nonprofits are out there. The great way that we can help them is if we don't have to fund the whole thing, but we put some incentive money in there for them where they can get a place of their own. And I mean
starter homes type thing. Uh, and I'm not even talking about necessarily west of 19, but to the other side more affordable for insurance, etc. The apartments that have been built, let the market rate bring them down. You will help the other people. I don't want to go. And we've done this
before. We put all the money into rental assistance. Rental assistance. Then at the end, what are they going to do? They become homeless or they're stuck again. If you put them in a home that they can actually find a way to fund it, buy it, start creating their own wealth. I think it goes a lot better for the community. And I think people that own their own
home are more committed to the community. So, I want to see more of that happen. And I think you can do it leveraging, as we talked about earlier, if you have a if you're going to give, let's say, someone 20 or $30,000 for money down to get in a home they couldn't other afford and it's sold for a cheaper price with a developer, you
can create something that can be longlasting for the family. Give them stability, give them give them comfort knowing what's going to happen in 5 years when I got to go and now I got to go find someone else. I'm stuck all over again. So, I really want to look at that. And I think, you know, I met with the Chuck from the CDBG program
yesterday, had a good discussion about looking at that and they want to take a look at that. When you consider Habitat for Humanity, when they build a project, that person's financing the house for 0%. Very affordable. Uh money down could help even with others doing other things. So, there's other opportunities.
And Marcy, like you said, let's look at creatively what we can go do. I think there's a better way to go than subsidizing these luxury apartments that are out there where people are going to get stuck. It's about time. It takes 12 months at minimum to build a home. That's if you already have the land. So, I'm looking
at bridging the gap, which I agree with everything you're saying about home ownership. But when you're looking at somebody getting to a home, paying rent while you're building a house or remodel a house is tough. It's very expensive. So, we have inventory in the
county now. Maybe we put stipulations in if someone is building a home, if they have an active building permit, they need a place to stay. I mean, essentially, you know, where are they going to stay while they're building their house? I just look at the
existing stock of what we have to give people an immediate shot in the arm to help them because everything about this program is time, right? Tick- tock. So, that was that's the premise of of it. I
certainly, you know, when you see hund00 million dollars in the breakdown of it, it just know and knowing what the data is saying with how many units and we know that the people who are going to want to do these projects are going to come in, they're going to want to build
multif family complexes. As a betting man, I bet we see the majority of the folks coming in, that's what they're going to want to build. It just I just want to move forward cautiously with that aspect. And it also I'm I'm very cautious in the government getting even
more into the housing business. Um I know it's what this money is is used for. I just want to make sure that we're laser focused on what we're allocating the resources to. Just one more point to your thing. Uh talked to a local gentleman from I think he's from Zephr
Hills. He builds container homes. Can build homes in Okay. So in 30 days you can start building homes. If we set up, we're talking about setting up in the west side for the industrial park, you could set up his whole factory right there, create jobs as well as those homes. They can be done real quickly and
go uh there's other people out there with land that want to see something happen. So those fit perfect on mobile home on the mobile. Exactly. So for people want to stay there, etc., you know, I mean, it's an opportunity to move fast and keep them in their home they want to be in. And maybe it's a short-term thing, maybe it's a six-month
rental or something. So if it's just bridging the gap to go, I think it's a good way to go. But I I just want you to know there's opportunities we can look at to go quicker with that. I just I I just look at this money big shift time years. People need help today, now,
yesterday. So that's the lens I'm looking through right now. Yeah. Okay. Any else other topics? Good. Thank you, Chair. Okay. Commissioner. Okay. First of all, I'm excited um to see what our community
looks like in seven to 10, 15 years, 20 years, because I think um with all of the creative minds that our community is going to look a lot different and um but I I do want to say when Mike told me that um you guys were one of the best, I
said to him, I said, "Doesn't surprise me at all." I said, "We are it. It's just Pasco proud." like we are we are the front runners in on so many different levels and I am just super proud of you guys uh for and
everybody who worked on this project um to make it what it is and again I'm I'm super excited about the outcome. I think a lot of good is going to come of it. Um like Seth was saying the um the people who are hurting now are are missing
middle for our housing our seniors you know um and one thing you know ju just pointing out with our seniors too I mean we're having seniors committing suicide right now because they can't handle the stress of what's happening in their
life. One of my seniors I've adopted right now is literally on the cliff and and it's so hard to stand by and walk with people in that journey and it's all due to this storm. So, you know, we we
just don't realize honestly what a toll it is taking on these people. So, um just thank you for you know everything you're going to do for them. So, thank you. Commissioner Stark, you on the line? Is she showing?
Yeah, I'm on the line. But um I appreciate all your comments. They're very good. And um one of the one of the things I really noticed on Mary's slide was the uh where it says elimination of blaze. So I am really looking forward to
that. Um, I I agree with Commissioner Jagger that our county will be much better uh towards with this with this money and it should should help everybody. So, it's uh we're making lemonade out of 11 for
sure. Okay. Thank you. Yeah, I'd like to say um Mike, I'm glad that you when you first heard about this as you made put this directly under you. I think it was a good move. Um, I appreciate the meeting we had at yesterday again uh to go through the things we've talked about
and um uh Connor and Marcy, you guys did a great job getting the information and again I'm very happy to hear that uh the positive comments you got from FEMA from HUD about how great this project is. uh you've covered so many great things and
as we go this is a very high level thing so you don't have to specifically get to every single detail what's going to go on but this presentation was I think very important for the board to hear you can hear our input as well when it comes down to picking the projects and it could be helping uh the Mercy Center and
Dade City that want to go put in that we don't have all the funding from the state we've now got time through August to kind of figure that type of thing out uh to what we want to do I think there's optimism out there. I talked to a lady today. Uh she got hit with the storm. 5 ft of water over in Sea Ranch. U can't
get through FEMA. She's stuck. She's in a house. She's living in a trailer out in front of her house. Wants to get in there, but doesn't have the money to go do it. She's applied for a veil elevate Florida. Don't know what's going to get the money, but she hasn't get other than the 715, I think, two grand from FEMA. Nothing. And with all that damage, tell
her to to um uh resend everything because I just had to resend everything and and got a different outcome. Okay. So, good to know. Also, uh um people have been going
to Congressman Billis' office uh and they have an incred incredible staff of case managers that might be able to Yeah. And she she Yeah, she's worked with them, too. So yeah, they're in the congress and the team doing great, too. But again, it's a big birth. So all the
all the things that you've got in here provide opportunities to go. Um the uh the the thing I liked about our conversation was with all these funds that they're allocated to these different pots right now and you can't change mitigation, but infrastructure
could. I think within a year's time, especially when you got planning money that's out there, you can actually start with those things right away. Let's go look at what these things is going to cost. Let's go find out what we can do for matching. That planning part is could could be a great tool for us. Um I'm going to be saying as far as the admin, I want to try to cut that down,
but I appreciate the flexibility. And I think if we bring this back every single year to what we've done, and I mean I mean a full board workshop for like could be four hours, eight hours, whatever to kind of say, okay, here's where we're at. And I think after August, we should be planning a day. We
take another full day to go, here's what we've got. Let's go take a look and let's let's give this the attention it fully deserves. Um, I think with the RFP process, again, I'm comfortable letting staff do it because I know each one of us probably get phone calls. We We need
to make sure we're informed exactly when that cone of silence is. So, we get no communications. It's now. It's now. Okay. So, if if you would let staff or Carrie, if you would let those people know that are out there, they have not to put any contact with us whatsoever.
Right. And if I see anything, it's not going anywhere either. But sometimes you get a call, you don't know where it's coming from. But if you would just make sure that they all got to know if they do it, they're out. Period. I'm going to take any improprieties and don't want to put any commissioners in bad positions. Um, so with that said, uh, I want to say
you guys have done a phenomenal job going through. This is a great opportunity. I want to make sure we get it right to help all these people that are so desperately needing it. And it's a great, like I say, a great opportunity for us to do some great things for this county. So, thank you all. administrator may well talk. You're good. Okay. Okay.
Anyone else? Good. Okay. And we'll go to R32. Uh before we bring U Office of Management and Budget up, uh Mr. Chair, I'd like to bring uh Parks and Recreations and Natural Resources Director Keith Wy. Um R32 and
R33 are um bond issuances requests from the board of up to $80 million, but feel it might be in our our best interest to have Mr. Wy talk a little bit about uh the state of parks, especially in the east side and kind a little bit about what what the plans are for for these
dollars. Keith, so good morning. Keith Wy, director of parks, recreation, natural resources department. Um, to Mike's point, just going to put a little context to to the request for the bones uh bonds that are actually in front of you. This map you've seen me talk about many times before. This is the level of
service/parks capital project plan. What you see here, just as a reminder, is the um color in orange or or red, light red is the is the area within the county where we're not actually providing park service and that future parks would actually provide that park service. And
again, that was supported by the 2015 uh master plan and supplemental information that we did in the parks impact fee study a couple years ago. So, just to zoom in on the east side of the county, as a reminder, um the impact fee zone is broken into three areas. Specifically, we're going to talk about the east zone.
These are the major projects that were identified in the capital plan and the impact fee study. Not all projects, but just major projects. Uh and this is your parks director listing them in priority uh or preference, if you will. Also, you have VOP district park, uh the bike park, date city recreation
complex/shelter, the two rivers district park, connected cities community park. Question mark on that. I know there's been discussion, not exactly sure. We we do not have clear board direction on that, but put it into the mix of conversation. San Pasco Park expansion and then the Winfields Community
Park. Actually, back up. So, um couple points of clarity here. Pretty much everything that you see here was with the exception of connected cities was was required through a concurrency requirement in the comp plan. So basically development application comes in, concurrency is triggered, we
negotiate um the the acquisition if you will of the of the land through either cash or credit and this is why we're basically having these conversations. Uh actually also San Pasco Park was not a part of that. That was a previous uh county administration deal um worked out many many years ago.
So tied to the specific bond, these are these are what we're requesting. Um these are the projects that we're requesting specifically for the bonds. You would have Two Rivers District Park, which would include the acquisition. 16.5 million is the agreed upon um sale
price. That agreement is tenatively uh uh projected to be presented to the board on June 17th. Uh also within the request for bond is the cost to design, permit, and construct. And then several workshops ago, um, the board, I think it was in the joint city workshop, talked
about the collaborative effort with the city of Dade City to do a recreation complex shelter to provide that sheltering opportunity east side of Pasco County. So there is money in uh proposed in the bond to do that project. And then for whatever reason, if if any
of those projects above do not happen, the proceeds could be used for other projects that are currently in process and under design. So that would be VOP district park/bike park or possibly connected cities or any other park project that seems to kind of be created whenever I'm in a meeting uh recently.
So which is good news. Okay. So a little details on the Two Rivers Park land deal and just some options to put uh everything into perspective. So the agreement that will be presented in uh June 17th. Background on that is the MPU application. the conditions to negotiate
the park agreement was approximately 3 years ago. At that time, we had the old impact fee that was in place. So, the credit value for land was like not even a hundred I think it was $112 per dwelling unit. So, when you're trying to
negotiate at the time it was I think a 100 acres and you're and Mr. Goldstein can speak to this and you're you have the ability to offer credits but the developer cannot monetize the credits right because your fee is not low enough very very difficult to kind of structure
or I'm sorry yeah not high enough correct yeah it's too low I was stuck on that uh so difficult to negotiate in addition to that when you're looking at the old fee and the revenue collected not having a whole lot of money in the bank you don't have cash to negotiate so
at the time of the the kickoff of the negotiation We were in the process of getting the impact fee updated and once obviously that was updated we had a little more ability to negotiate a credit deal and a cash deal which is pretty much what we did. Uh also the school board at the
time was um was involved and it was going to be a heavily colllocated project. They actually backed out then came back in they bought 40 acres which kind of brought us back into the table to to do the negotiation and this is kind of the rough term. So three and a
half million cash, three million in land credits specifically in the east with the ability to use some credits in central and then a cost share with the school board and the developer on the road that would actually be the entrance to the project in the school at $1.5
million. So, when we're figuring this out, I zoomed in a little further on where this is at. And the question is is do we go all in on option one and we we basically purchase 8 which is now 85 acres within the actual MPU of where the
concurrency trigger happened or do we take a step back and look at um well we control we the county control parkland at the Winfields community development as well as an existing acreage of 40 acres across the street at San Pasco which then would you'd be creating two
smaller community parks Um and and those are really the op options that we have to pick from. When you look at option one, you're basically going to locate a facility that is again in the main hub of the trigger for the concurrency requirement. You get everything all in.
I will also say that the land that was offered in the deal, highest and best park land I think that I've ever seen in my in in my at least 15 years working with Pasco County. Uh so yes, it it it's about 8 million more than the um than
the impact fee study projected at the time. It was four years ago. So uh but what you have is you have high and dry site conditions that would keep the construction cost down because we won't have to bring in a lot of fill to elevate the site. And again, logistically, one site versus two sites
long term, you're going to be spending more money operationally kind of basically managing two facilities versus one. So, I just kind of wanted to to paint the picture. I know in the briefings, uh, it became very clear that the context should have been probably presented a little clearer before, so my
apologies on that. Uh, and with that, I'll entertain any questions. I know Amy Amy's here to talk about the financial side of the deal, but if you have any questions just overarching about the the park information, I can answer those. All right, Mr. I'm good. All right, I
want to Mr. W. Commissioner, Commissioner Starky. Okay. All right. So, I guess I'm the only one who's not good, but let me have my discussion. Um, well, and I I look at this a few different ways. First of all, $200,000 an acre is an absurd
number to pay. With the state regulations to us, how we can control things is tough. Think about the Winfield project. We own that the that property out there for 50,000 an acre. Uh a much better value. When I look at
San Pasco, uh I think S and I think we want to we have an opportunity to partner with the city of Zephr Hills. I think there's an opportunity there to do something really good out there uh to stretch the money. When I look at we're going to have to come up with 13.5 million in cash, that means we're going to be paying a bond and financing that
for that whole period of time. Um I would like to see that thing negotiated back down to definitely a lower number and then have a less of a balance with more credits than I would cash up front. Um at the connected cities, there's an opportunity to do something there as
well. I just think that with what we're doing here with the state legislature talking about how they may be changing property tax, we may get some hits with live local to throw this burden on the rest of the taxpayers that if this doesn't if this doesn't pay out well, uh, that we can go to general fund
money, which, you know, could get real tight coming down the road. I think it's it's a risky maneuver that I'd like to at least have this discussion before we make the final steps coming up. Yeah. Okay, Mr. Ro. Thank you. uh impact fee money, won't that take
care of that cash eventually? So, yeah. And the I think the terms of the deal that Amy would present is the debt service would fall would fall to the impact fee to pay and and both teams uh my department and OMB work together to ensure that the future revenue projections would address the debt
service. Yes, sir. Now, let's say something dramatic happens with the economy like back in 2007, I lived through it. The first thing was cut. Parks and wreck 30%, libraries 30%. Guess where the cuts were? And the economy was dropping so bad we looked at even cutting impact fees down to try to
get things going to to make it move. So, like I said, this is a lot of money to go forward. Uh we're paying a top dollar price. We've never paid that much money for a park, right? Nowhere near it. No. And and the way the rules are set up and what's coming up, you don't know what's going to happen. So, it should cover it
if things keep on going the way they're going. I don't doubt that. But if things drop now, you're going to throw a bigger burden when you're going to be cutting other things as well. Do you really need to do that or can you go look at is there better opportunities out there? And being that I had never seen this before, we had this discussion. I first
thing I saw was wait a second. How are we spending $80 million? How's it going to go? How's the deal set up? And I didn't get those details. Matter of fact, I don't even know at this point. Did the windfields say that we had to build a park there? Do we know that yet? Let me let me try to answer that. So on
the zoning map, it shows it as a park. Um when we acquired it from the developer, we said that we were acquiring it for a park. However, the deed, my understanding deep looked at it, it does not have a deed restriction that restricts it to a park. That's correct. Um if we were to surplus the
property, you would have to pay back the impact funds that were used to provide credits to the developer for the site. Um, and you'd probably have to reszone it to some use other than a park. But could you do that? Yes, you could. So,
if we did that, that would be able to cut your bond financing down to go to get some cash out of that and just instead of building it there, you build it down there. Um, it's not my district, so I don't know exactly how people feel about making that move, but um, to do
that, I'm looking at how do we lower this number down? That could be a way to do it. And I guess you could you could actually even if you wanted to sell the San Pasco recreational facility land too if you wanted to. There's no burdens on that. Not that I'm aware of, but again I my I wouldn't recommend that we consider
that just because you know I think uh I think the growth projections in East Pasco I think we would probably need to hold at least one of the one of those. I will say that when we did the parks master plan we two rivers was not in play at the time but we knew a concurrency requirement would be triggered. So the question I got through
the briefings was do you need all three? So just on the record, I'll say uh you know with a large uh with a large district park on the table like Two Rivers, I think that that gives us the ability to take one of those down. My recommendation it would be windfields. And I say that primarily because the
site conditions are not optimal for development. So you have approximately 40 acres and and significantly less of that has development potential unlike San Pasco which it's almost 100% developable and this and we could partner with the city on doing a project there too which there's going to be a
lot of growth coming there. I agree with that too. But yes, again I'm just looking at I want to make sure we're protected every step of the way. If we were looking at to go put that Windfield's property on the market to me this makes it a lot more palatable. Um, well, it is my district and I feel like
it I mean that number is a high number. I'm not taking that number lightly, but the fact of it is there's a lot of property out here selling for a lot more money than we ever dreamed it would be selling for. And uh, this park's going to be a very important to not only the
Two Rivers area, but also a large part of the Zephr Hills themselves. We'll be able to use some of this park. So, it's uh very important for for Wreck to have these parks fit in. And there was, if I'm not mistaken, I don't believe there
was any real monies set aside a long time ago that, you know, even came close to this kind of money. But we have to make do. But the impact fee that uh Keith had brought us earlier on,
everybody said, "Oh gosh, that's too much for us to pay." say, "Well, there's no citizen here now paying that, but the people that are coming bringing the children that need the park eventually, they will be paying that as they're building housing or or purchasing houses
built in Two Rivers and and in the east side of the county. So, I I think it can be worked out and I I'm I'm for saving money. I understand that. But you got to remember also um some of the cities
don't set aside money to do a lot of work for in the east side for these recreation parks and things of nature. They're not keeping keeping their value. They're lowering their values as much as they can and don't have money to to put in when they really need to put in to
help build a park. They depend on the county to do most that work for them. So the fact of it is I appreciate what they do, but they need to start step back and look at themselves and actually help put money in these parks to help us. So on
the east side Okay. Okay. Did you want to talk about the other building, the rec center? Is that for another conversation later? Yeah, I think later. Just I mean I there has been convers specifically talking about city of Z uper hills or date city rec city rec center. Yeah. So, um yeah, I I would
definitely like to talk about that. So, that is um that was a project that was identified as purely a recreational complex within the capital plan when we presented the impact fee study and um partnering with the city of Dade City. We basically, you know, came to the conclusion that they needed a larger
community center. We needed a wreck complex. They needed we needed a shelter collectively as a region. So, we decided to kind of go in all in on the concept. Hence the the project that I know Commissioner Oakley is familiar with and and again was brought up at the joint cities workshop. Um if for whatever
reason the state money doesn't support so we put in for so 20 million was was the revenue projected out of the the impact fee specifically and then we asked for 20 million from the state. If for whatever reason if if the money is not 20 million my professional recommendation is we still proceed with
the recreation complex and the city limits because that's again a project that we've been trying to fund for 15 years. um we could pursue either additional funding or grant funding or some other earlier presentation that I saw possibly that might be eligible uh maybe somehow
uh very well done by the way um and and get that money. So that's uh yeah that's the specifics on that project. I can I can give you some more information on Sure. But this came about when meeting with with one of the commissioners here in Date City and realizing we needed to
do something here in Day City because we didn't have the wreck. We have plenty of kids, but we don't have enough. Birch Parks overflowing with kids. It's full all the time. Um, but that's needed here in this county. It's not only needed for
wreck area, but it's also very uh important because when we have these hurricans and and storms like we had this past year, we have nowhere to go. But in some of the schools and they're they're not rated for, you know, 5K
storms and things of that nature that uh continues to to batter even the east side. It's It's usually better over here, but this because it's a rural community here in Dade City and East Pasco County, we actually want to show
that we care about our citizens on the coast and we will have that need for bringing those folks over to this side so they feel safer. This is very similar to the Fano shelter on the west side.
It's more than just a shelter here in Dade City. is for all East Pasco County. It's for all the and it represents the rural area of Pasco County. It also can reach out to Pineellis and Hillsboro County for those people that need help
for sheltering to come this way away from the coast. And this last storm was a great example of what that was that was showing because of all the damage we had on the coast. But the fact of it is this is going to serve a lot of people
in our area. It's more of a regional type shelter than just a local shelter because we we need to invite those other counties to come in with people and it's already set up for emergency services for oxygen and other things going to be
in there. And it's going to also be the future home of a VA office that's here on the east side that will be in this new building. The building they're in right now was built in the 1950s. That's how old that building is
that they're in that VA services in. The fact of it is you sit right there around an elementary school, a junior high school, and very close to the high school here in the Date City area. So, it it's got a lot of uses and and really
will well, the storm showed that we need this. We really do. Okay. So, and and I'm a fan of the project. All right. Okay. So, the the fact that the early rains last year caused so much more damage when the heavy storms came later on that these people suffer with the
banks of Whit Lucci come out. I get that. I want to see that that they have a place cuz they it's so hard. I mean, we we open the place down in Holiday, but people in Hudson didn't want to go to holiday. They want to be close to their homes doing their thing. Oh, I understand. So, I do I want to make sure we do the same thing here so people on this side can can do the same. So, it'll
be the same thing. I'm a fan for that. So, what I want to say is when we built the hurricane shelter over in Hudson, the mistake we made, and I brought this up, but I couldn't get a change in the board at the time, was to actually raise the roof where we could make it for just the same activities you're talking about here. Right. So, it's a great thing.
Now, this year with the legislators, we don't know what's going to happen. We'll know in a couple of days. So, hopefully by June 17th, we'll be a better position to make a final determination, whatever. Hopefully, that'll come out better. And and if we go that way, then so be it. because I if we have time to make a final decision exactly what we want to
do because what I don't want to see us do is borrow more money than what we need. I'm glad we get a cap right now of that number that can come down if we have that flexibility because what I'm thinking is let's see what the legislature does what they think we're going to get. I think if you look at the
planning money you could actually take and actually design the shelter for using funds for that rather than just this because it is hurricane related. uh we want to build it to the cat CAT 5 standards so that people can go there etc. uh and depending that maybe definitely what you want to do to
maximize it. Um I think the CDBGR money could be used for this and justifiably so and it may take the amount of money we need to borrow from this bond. So we're not finding all that as well and you maybe to lower the number down but you don't know that till a little bit later. Right. I don't want to I want to
make sure that uh Connor and um Marcy that we are able to do this structure this to where I don't want to say we've taken the bond money out for the project and now that the HUD would say oh you've already funded it so you can't use it. So, I need you to put us in a position.
If you want to speak to it, that'd be great. But I want to make sure that we don't put ourselves in a trick bag where now I can't go use this money because if I can use that DR money instead of uh the parks money and funding it and financing, etc., then that's where I want to go. I want to make sure that we
have that opportunity to make it happen. Well, because this isn't we haven't have not collected any money for this, but we've been thinking about this idea this year because of these storms. And you understand? all for the idea that no and I just want to make sure we bring the number down and get the best value. I
want to do it the right way and if we don't get money from the state then we need to be prepared. It does fit in the for agreement for part of that money from 585. But if we can get monies elsewhere and then use impact monies
from wreck then we'll be good and those monies can go toward more things we do between and I'm agreement with that. Yeah. with connected cities, Winfield, etc. Other things out there. I want to make sure we maximize what we can do. And again, I think that CDBGDR money
works well. I just want to make sure as we set this up, uh, that we don't show that we've already funded it that we can't use the money for. Well, it isn't funded. So, no, no, but but if we pass these bonds and we say that's what it's for, we could be in a trade back. I just want to Mr. Ch, just to be clear,
there's nothing in these bonds that say that identifies specific parks. It says it has to be used for parks, but it I'm not does not identify any specific. It doesn't even identify this shelter at all. I just I just I'm just making sure intentionally done that way so that they
have that flexibility to move the money to different parks. Yeah. Marcy Esper, senior program administrator for office of disaster recovery resources. I do want to clarify that the uh and we've spoken about this
commissioner that since that community center did not exist and was not damaged during a storm, it is a mitigation project. So that would be out of the 76 million competitive millions of dollars.
Uh, and I would, um, so there there are no projects in the action plan, and I would, uh, hate for you to miss an opportunity to bring in funding and then not get funding from a competitive $76
million. And if if the bonds do not directly tie to anything, then you're not supplanting anything. Okay. Very good. That's good. Amy, you want to say something? I think she does. She's got a whole
presentation. They're listening. Are we Are we good to move to the final edition? Thank you. All right. Thank you. All right. Amy Ferrell, budget director with Pasco County's Office of Management and Budget. So before you I have two
different resolutions all connected to the same bond issuance. So R32 and R33 um OM250045 and OM250046 respectively. All right. So the first
one 0045 is a resolution authorizing the issuance of a not to exceed $80 million in aggregate principal amount of Pasco County, Florida capital improvement non atorum revenue bonds um series 2025A for the purpose of financing andor reimbursing the costs of
the acquisition, expansion, design, construction and equipping of various capital improvements of the county including without limitation parks and recreation projects and paying associated transactional Internal costs. Covenanting to budget appropriate and deposit legally available non-advelor
revenues to provide for the payment thereof. Making certain covenants and agreements for the benefit of the owners of such bonds. Authorizing certain officials and employees of the county to execute any document and take all actions required in connection with the
competitive sale issuance and delivery of such bonds. Taking certain other actions with respect to such bonds. providing for severability and providing for an effective date. All right. Now, 0046. This is a resolution authorizing competitive bids
and approving the forms of the official notice of sale and summary notice of sale pertaining to such bonds. Making certain provisions and delegating certain responsibilities with respect to the official notice of sale, bidding, and sales of such bonds. Approving the form and authorizing the ex execution
and delivery of a disclosure dissemination agent agreement. Approving the form of and the distribution of a preliminary official statement and authorizing the execution and delivery of a final official statement pertaining to said bonds. Appointing a paying agent and bond registar making certain
covenants and agreements in connection therewith. Authorizing certain officials of the county to execute any document or to take any actions required in connection with the issuance of said bonds. providing for severability and providing for an effective
date. Okay. So, um in short, we're looking to do a covenant to budget and appropriate, which means we'll use legally available revenue sources that are nonadvalum to pay the debt. Primarily, we will be looking to use the um park impact fees from the east, but a covenant to budget and appropriate
allows us to use any legally available revenues. Um, this allows us to get better interest rates and things like that because sometimes impact fees to Commissioner Mariano's point can become volatile. Um, it is a not to exceed amount of $80 million aggregate
principle plus related gross premium and we will be following a competitive bid process to ensure the lowest possible interest rate given current market conditions. All right. So, what does the timetable for this look like? Um, so important dates. We already
talked about projects, so I'm going to skip over those. Uh, I'd hang on to that slide. Hm. I'd hang on to that slide. You have will provide. I think you should put in may provide. Yes. May provide. Um, so like we said, the resolution itself gives a very broad
definition. I know, but that's a key word. Yes. So may we'll scratch that out and make it may. Thank you. All right. So important dates. So right now our timeline has June 16th as our competitive bond sale date. That is the
point at which the amount were borrowing become cemented in stone. So if we would want to push that back, um this would be an excellent time for the board to direct us to do that if there were other things we wanted to explore. Um point of
note, June 17th is when the land agreement comes to the board. June 24th is currently our pre-closing and then June 26 is that final firm closing. Okay, any
questions? And do we have a motion? Again, I want to make sure that look at that slide where it says the word may that we have the flexibility. I think that's that's the end. Okay. Oh, wait. No. There's more. All right. So, okay. So, this is
our recommended board action. A lot going on here. Um, so adopting the authorized the authorizing resolution approving the issuance of the capital improvement. So, this is for the not to exceed $80 million. And we will need two separate motions and approval for the
two separate resolutions. So the first one is the not to exceed 80 million. We have a motion. I move. Second. Any further discussion? I'll just say with the flexibility we have with the we're changing the slide to May. I'm good.
Need a roll call. We need a roll call. Yeah. Yeah. District one, Commissioner Oakley. I. District two, Commissioner Waitman. Hi. District four, Commissioner Joerger. Hi. District five, Commissioner Mariano. I. District three, Chairman Starky. Hi.
Okay. And to item R33. And so, um, the recommended board action here is to adopt the supplemental resolution approving the competitive bids and approving the forms of the official notice of sale and summary notice of sale pertaining to such bonds. So move.
Second. All right. Roll call vote. District one, Commissioner Oakley. I. District two, Commissioner Waitman. Hi. District four, Commissioner Joerger. Hi. District five, Commissioner Mariano. Hi. District three, Chairman Starky. Okay. All right. Both motions passes. I
want to thank the team for doing a phenomenal job. I know I had a lot of questions out of the stuff discussion, but I think the full dialogue was great for the board to hear it and it gave me a lot of peace to to go forward to it. So, thank you. Yeah. Thank you. All right. We've got 10 minutes, so we
can go to miscellaneous business. Commission. Oh, we are. I don't know if I can do it in 10 minutes, but I'll try. All right, let's see. We got pictures up here. We had a meeting out on uh uh Bellamy
Boulevard about the correction of a lot of uh safety issues and all on Bellamy and and all of us know how much traffic and all caused from 52 on Bellamy and people driving through from Hernando County through Pasco to go into Tampa or
other places and they use that as a pass through. It came to our attention about a year and a half ago. We met on this this project and we addressed all the safety issues passing and uh the roadway
and narrow with uh shoulders having issues and so we ended up having a meeting on uh May 21st, 2025. Uh Pete Hanigan and uh Panos was there along
with some other staff members. Let me tell you something. It's been a year and a half since we first met to come back and say we're fixing to start this in 2027. Uh this project will start in action. Also, a person there was the guy
that's going to do the construction for Bellamy. We're going to widen the shoulders. We're widening. I think it's roughly about two feet on both sides and uh it'd be a lot of improvements and some of the passing zones that are there
now will go away because it's going to be more safe without without having that there. So, um, we had this meeting in Ron Monk's, uh, barn right there on Bellamy Boulevard, and I can tell you
staff really reacted very well to come as quickly as they did within a year and a half to say we're going to do this in 2027, which is our year is October 26th. So, we're like a year away from year, a
little over a year from that starting. And at the same time this is starting right before that the widen of 52 will also start from Bellamy all the way to u airing cutoff and so there's a lot of
construction going to be happening out there a lot of things we need I mean we have other developments coming so it's very very important this construction of these roadways get done right away because of all the development and more traffic coming so this is a a good way.
A good example where we going to get these roads in here right before we get some of the developments which is going to have the extra traffic which we need pay attention to. Um you mind if I make a comment to that? Yes. And and I've got uh Jason was looking at the road. I
think the road could be done better and it makes sense to do that road in one. We made him we made Chase a star out. All right. Good. Um are there improvements going to be made at the intersection at 52 as well? That's happening. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. We know there's those
improvements at the intersection. Okay. And then the white, see the white and the 52 is going to start at the same time. So it's all hitting at the same time. Right. Thank you, sir. And the gentleman that was doing the construction for the Bellamy, uh John
Kilgore, he was there and spoke to the actual work that's going to be done. And that work is starting at 52. It goes all the way to the county line in Hernando County. Awesome. And then I heard uh someone spoke to me. Do what? Hang hang
on for a second. He's not done yet. Somebody uh reached out to us said that Hernando County was looking at improving their side. You want to speak? Yeah. Sorry, I have to go in and I'm I'm the speaker first speaker at this
presentation. Um my concern with the intersection of Bellamy and 52 is that the orange belt trail is coming right near there and possibly there. We don't know where it's going to cross for sure yet. And so if you don't have a mixeduse
trail on either side of how how is that going to work? So, I don't really know if the county has really l looked at that intersection well because um it's undetermined how we'll get across 52 in that area
and someone's got to look at it. Well, part of that issue is we're we're doing the widing and the shoulder uh repair and all on Bellamy in the same rideway that it has now. And there's no room for for a big wide trail. And that trail
goes past there on down across uh I think it goes underneath interstate on Old Pasco Road. There will be other connections with development that's going to come there. And years ago, there was a big conversation about the underpass having a trail going and it's there.
Yeah, we're talking about the underpass to I75 where this trail will go through, I think. Okay. Okay. Uh then we go on to the uh
we'll get you an answer. Okay. Uh, next thing was the fire station and we had a ribbon cutting. Great new fire station. They don't have
a pole for the firefighters to drop down to the lower floor. They they have elevator. It's so high. They have elevators and stairs. So, very good presentation there. And and the fact that uh we all welcome the better service we're going to get in those
areas when those stations open up. Uh so it's a good project. Then I went and spoke to uh the class 254 graduation ceremony for the firefighter class and uh a lot of nice young men that and
women that are coming into our fire department that really are joining a very elite group of brotherhood and sisterhood in the fire department. Look forward more and more to that. Then we had the uh went to the
May 29th went to the ribbon cutting of a of a lab where they check this is not where they go in and clear veins and things that this uh takes care of the electrical part of the heart. So
uh Dr. Ahmad, he's in that one picture. He's to the uh to my right, but as you're looking at the picture on the left, he's a new doctor heading up that division for Advent Health there in Zephrey Hills. So, let me go
next. What we got here? Oh, this is the uh WAC Technical College graduation, which I didn't realize we even had that. And it's not in our county. This is in Citrus County.
And they brought the graduation here. And they had five individuals uh for detention. And uh they're very well prepared and ready to go uh very outstanding young young men that uh are
going to take over in the detention part of our our detention center. So it was a very good set ceremon. Okay. Then went out to the RV RV area at
U Lake Lake Road next to the interstate. They're really coming together. It actually is going to end up I think it's three tiers and there's a hotel element as part of the RV and all that which offers
also uh extended living for people that come in into the area and it's very near Interstate 75 at uh exit 293 I believe which is also my exit there on 75. So they'll have some restaurants and and a
lot of activity there. They'll have I think they'll have canoeing and things like that on the lake. So, it's it's going to be a very nice project. So, um and that finishes up the pictures, but then
uh today I heard a lot about um talking about rural area equestrian horses, things of this nature. But people that are talking about those kind of things want them to come to the
northeast Pasco or in East Pasco County and we're very rural and I'm working very hard to to keep it rural and and have a very rural outlook on on the northeast rural area and from Blandon north and some areas to the south here
between here and and Zephry Hills will be continue to be rural. But uh we can't make land owners sell to people and lower their price. I mean, it's up to them to determine what they
going to get for their land. But I offered to a to a group on Trilbury Road at one time a few years back. uh they didn't accept my vision for a very rural and equestrian uh rodeo arena and things of this nature and a place
where you could you could actually ride horses, camp, go to the green swap and go back. That was my vision. But the property owner didn't want to sell to that vision. He wanted three and a half units to the acre, which I told him no.
And just lately, I've got other people that are doing other developments in around the west of Chapel area and all. They came out to Bllandon Road near the intersection in a very rural area and they wanted to put two and a half units to an acre and I told them no. So, I'm
I'm trying to keep it uh very rural and very open to the peoples that we can have. When we get through I don't know when that'll be. I won't be around. when they get through developing all Pasco County, there's at least a third of the
county that will be open space that will never be having all these uh 40 and 50 foot lots and things of that nature. We're going to keep it very rural in that area. So, I keep telling them that,
but I'll just keep telling I'm gone. So, but uh and that that's all I have today. No, you're doing great, sir. Thank you. And I know I know it's tough to balance all that. So, I appreciate what you're doing. And like I said, Mary and county are doing a great job up there, but we can't make people do what they want unless they want to do it with the
business. Can't force it. I mean, they sell their land. They are they they can determine what they want to do with their land. Okay. It's just they might have to do it somewhere else because we're not going to allow that to happen. We're going to keep it rural. Okay. All right. It's uh past noon. We'll take a
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series continue. So, we're going to get right to those. Um, item P34. P34. We have um we do have publication in the March 5th, 2025 edition of the Tampa Bay
Times. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. POS planning development, economic growth. Uh item P34 is PTE250109. This is an ordinance amending the Paso County Comprehensive Plan for the Elite 52 PD plan development. Uh this is a request for continuance for a
continuence to a date uncertain. Move approval. Second. All in favor say I. I. I. Starky not here. Commissioner Stark is not on the line. Okay. P35. U. I'm just thinking for the record. I guess we need to reflect that you you
were not chairing this morning. Correct. Yes, I was. No, it was. Okay. She was online. Got it. Sorry. Yeah. I apologize. On uh P35, we have proof of publication May 7th, May 14th, May 21st, and May 28th of
2025. Item P35 is PTE250166. This is an ordinance amending the uh Paso County code of uh ordinance number 2409 contracting and expanding the boundaries of the Two Rivers East CDD. This is recommended for a continuence to the July 15, 2025 board
of county commissioners meeting in Date City at 1:30 p.m. Move for continuence. Second. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Okay. B36. B36. Again, uh publication occurred in the May 7th, May 14th, May 21st, and May 28th, 2025
editions of the Tampa Bay Times. Uh P36 is PD250173. This is an ordinance amending the Pasco County ordinance number 2140 contracting and expanding the boundaries of the Two Rivers North CDD. Uh this is also recommended to continue to the July 15, 2025 board of county commissioners
meeting at 1:30 p.m. in Date City. Move continues. Second. All in favor say I. I. I. Any opposed? P37. And again, uh this item was published in the May 7th, May 14th, May 21st, and May 28th, 2025
editions of the Tampa Bay Times. Item P37 is PD 2550184. This is an ordinance amending passage 20 ordinance number 2141 contracting and expanding expanding the boundaries of the Two Rivers West CDD. This is also continued to the July 15,
2025 board of county commissioners meeting 1:30 p.m. in Date City. Move continues. Second. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Okay. And item P38. P38. We have approved publication in the April 16th, 2025 edition of Tampa Bay
Times supplemented by certified affidavit of certified postings, certified mailings and site postings. Item P38 is PDE 2550112. This is an ordinance amending the Pasco County comprehensive plan providing for a small scale
comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use maps 2-15 and sheet 13 changing from AG agricultural to IIL industrial light on approximately 10.09 acres of real property located on the south side of state road 52 approximately 1,274 ft west of Aaron
cutoff and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency providing for repealer serverability and an effective date. Uh this comes to the board of county commissioners with a recommendation to approve from the planning department economic growth department and the local planning agency. Approve the proposed commence plan amendment and adopt the
ordinance by volo. Okay. Thank you. Anyone need a presentation staff? Uh just a question chair. Okay. T we have a live local provision coming in on on this at the second vote. Yes. Uh this should have the live local uh worked
into it. Okay. and it'll probably appear on the on the zoning matter which we to follow. Getting ahead. Okay, I do see the applicant's representative here, but uh let me just see if there's any public comment to this. Any public comment to P38? We have no one signed up in advance, nor anyone
online. Okay, approve. We have a motion. Move approval. Roll call. This is a roll call. Okay. Roll call. Got a motion. Got a second. Roll call, please. District one, Commissioner Oakley. Hi. District two, Commissioner Wakeman. Hi. District
four, Commissioner Joerger. Hi. Uh, District three, Chairman Starky is not present. District five, uh, acting chair Mariana. I Okay. Item P39.
P39. We have approved publication the May I'm sorry, a April 30th, 2025. uh May 7th, May 14th, and May 21st, 2025 editions of the Tampa Bay Times. Item P39 is
PD250130. This is an ordinance establishing the Acacia Fields Community Development District pursuant to chapter 190 Florida statutes, providing for authority and power of the district, providing for powers and duties of the district, providing for the board of supervisors of the district, providing for the district budget, providing for
functions of the district, providing for miscellaneous provisions, providing for an effective date. Uh this comes to you with a recommendation from the plane development economic growth department to adopt the ordinance by roll club. Okay. Um anyone anyone signed to speak to this item? We have no one signed up
in advance nor online at this time. Okay. Anyone here? No one's here to speak. Okay. Approve. Second. Roll call. Roll call vote. District one. Commissioner Oakley. I. District two Commissioner Whitman. Hi. District four,
Commissioner Joerger. Hi. District three, chairman Starking not present. District five, vice chairman Mariano. I motion passes. Um item P40. David has to give the I don't need to do it. No, it's only
so as a zone. These are I got two continues of the for the zoning. So I need proof from both. We have Yeah. on item P40. This item did not have appropriate publication so is cannot continue today.
Sure. Yes. So item P40 is PD257A67. This is a zoning amendment in the name of Swami A LLC Chapel Professional Center. This is a change in zoning from P2 Professional Office District to a C2 general commercial district. Uh the request is to continue
the item to the July 15, 2025 board of county commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in Date City. Do we have a motion? Approve. Second. All in favor say I. I. And P41. Another continuence. Yes. Here too. We do not
have advert u appropriate posting and advertising for today. Uh item P41 is PD 257869. This is a zoning amendment. James A. and Cheryl L. Katier. Powerline road reszoning. This is a change in zoning from an AC
agricultural district to an AR agricultural residential district and AR agricultural residential district to a two AR agricultural residential district. This is a request to continue the item to the July 15, 2025 board of county commissioners
meeting at 1:30 p.m. in date city. A motion continue. Oh, move. Move to uh continue. Second. All in favor say I. I I Any opposed? Okay, motion passes. That will take care of that part of the agenda today. We're going to go back to
committee reports. Commissioner Waitman, short and sweet, chair. Short and sweet. Um the one big thing I don't have any update on committee reports, but just wanted to share that um broke ground on YMCA on Bruce Bal next to Bayare last
week, which is pretty fantastic. 300 new assortment of jobs for all different ages. coming in roughly 45,000 square feet full of aquatics, fields, you name it, it'll be their flagship here in Pasco, which is which is pretty cool. And they wouldn't be able to do it
without Bayare uh giving him a 30-year basically interest free loan to purchase the land. So, just a great partnership all around and shows Bayare's commitment to Pasco's health and wellness of all ages. And uh when it comes time, they're
planning on opening summer of 2026. So when when it comes comes time, we'll be sure everybody gets an invite and I hope everybody will come and and celebrate the the facility. So that's all I have, Mr. Chairman. All right. Thank you, Commissioner Jagger. Okay. So, not much
on the area of aging for committee reports. Um they're just still waiting on funding and um they're funded until June um for certain programs and just really hoping that things come through the state and federal government. Uh for my commissioner items, um I was at the
same as Commissioner Oakley and Commissioner um Starky. We were at the Pasco County Fire Rescue Station 17 ribbon cutting. So that was great. Absolutely beautiful. So next slide. This was the uh firefighting uh
graduation ceremony. We had 26 graduates. So that was awesome. And this was our Moon Lake popup pantry. We fed 308 families and 31 new families, which continues to amaze me because we have a
signup sheet. How um we keep bringing new families in. So, and the need is just very very dire out there. Um the next slide, this is just a fun one. There's two slides to this one. I went to the White House to celebrate the Gators uh national championship for
basketball. So, that was pretty cool. And the gentleman over there in the right side, he's he's um 79. So he's ginormous. So that was a really great and fun experience. So
that's that's it from this report. 7 foot. Okay. Yeah, he's huge. 7 foot n Yeah. Stand next to him. Chairman. Oh, wait. No, wait. You know what? This the 79 guy is not in the photo. I'm going to email
it to them, but I want you to I want you guys to see how big he is. But go ahead and continue, Mr. Carella. Okay. Thank you, sir. Uh just real real quick, two two fast items. One, I'm I'm happy to announce that uh our building construction
services department uh recently received accreditation from the uh international accreditation service. This is actually pretty big deal. It recognizes the uh the quality and the consistency and the commitment to excellence of our BCS group. So, we're very very proud that uh
this uh they they were awarded this distinction. and they're the only county in the nation with a population of our size between 500,000 and a million to receive this honor. So, uh, your building department's doing a lot of great things. There are other counties and cities within the state of Florida.
It's easier to get when you're smaller, I guess, but, uh, we're we're larger, we're growing, uh, and at the clip, we're growing. We're very very proud of BCS and the things that, uh, our building official and administrator have done over with that group. So, rock stars. That's a tremendous, tremendous accomplishment. The uh the only other
thing I just wanted to mention to the board, it's just more of anformational piece, is um u we received approval from the Department of Environmental Protection to embark on a um a trial for the use of our bottom ash as a concrete
additive with with CEX up in Brooksville. Uh this is exciting. It it represents a wonderful way that we can reuse the ash that we have coming off of the off of the facility which ultimately if it takes off uh could lead to some cost avoidance for us as well as uh um
reduce reduce the costs of of expansion and not having to expand the landfills. So uh solid waste team is doing a lot of great things. So I just want to give them a shout out. Mike, I like to comb it just for a quick second too because that is such an a great opportunity for us. Those those landfills between the
size of the space, uh the amount that the expense we take into there, the liability to have it to fix it in concrete is phenomenal. Um I know you mentioned one plant up in Brooksville, but what about all the other cement plants we have right here to encourage them to get it? I mean, we should be
able to take it as it gets processed, stockpile it when it gets ready for a load, take it to one of them, just drop it off. Don't even charge it for just drop it off and let them take it and use it. Yeah, this is a pilot right now. So, I I imagine the scale and the operation of where they wanted to do it. It's
being done there in Brooksville, I assume, for technical reasons on CX's part. But once we enter, you know, if it does take off, if crews viable, we'll we'll have agreements and there'll be there'll be things on how to transport and and and do the things that perhaps you're asking and we would bring that agreement back to the board. But right
now, this is the pilot. It's it's exciting just to get the environmental approvals to go to go and do this again, just like for Road Base, right? So, our solid waste team continues to innovate and just do a lot of great things for our citizens. Now, we haven't done much with Roadbase, though, have we? No, it's a little difficult because of the parameters that were put on it by the
environmental protections, but doesn't matter. I mean, it's it's still there. It's still it still literally paves the way. Yeah, elevations make it tough because it's got to be above the water level at a certain point. I get that. Um, but yeah, I think it's it's a great opportunity and I tell you, we could save a whole lot of money for years down the road. So, the cost the cost of
constructing a new landfill cell is is well over $20 million. So, so I mean literally every one of our people we get get together be great. Yes, sir. That's all. You want to say something? I just want you I have to show you cuz I the wrong picture was on there. Hold on. This the 79. 79.
Oh my god. He's so tall. How big was he? Oh my gosh. I mean like and to just see like his clothes how like things are just Oh yeah. It was crazy. Yeah. Wow. So anyway, that's the picture I wanted to show you. I didn't realize that
wasn't in there, but anyway, he's huge. So anyway, how was the trip to DC? And you know what? It was chilly and rainy and it was 58, so the weather wasn't great, but um other than that, it was good. Didn't go to hang around the president for a little bit. No, I didn't get to. They moved it inside. It was
supposed to be outside. So, I'm happy we got there early because if we didn't, there were people in the hallway that couldn't even see and they were watching it on their phones. So, um I was very thankful I had an up close spot. Okay. Good. Okay. County Attorney Office. I
have nothing today. Okay, Mr. Clerk. And the clerk has nothing to present. All right. I don't see Chase. Anyone from the sheriff's office in All right. Um, so I get go to my pictures. This is uh I think some debris that's in the canals. I got a few
pictures. I think most stuff in the canals box down below. Uh, another crate that's that's there. Oh, wow. More stuff down there. About to go. Uh, got got it marked off where it's at. So, I know we we've
talked about getting this stuff done. These things just come over yesterday and the day before, but uh somehow we got to work to re uh do this. I think there's some more pictures coming up too. Uh more stuff that was found in the water. Uh this just a Facebook post. Go back to that, right? If you would. So,
it's just one of our local people. I'm looking for a company who cleaned my canal from the hurricane. So, we should have people spend their money on that. We should be able to take care of this one way or the other if we could. Uh, next one. This is something that we've talked about before, but this is the first time I saw it actually posted. Joe
Pasco, real good guy, um, from the Sea Ranch area. Um, you can see all the grass clippings that go in there. Now, it has been probably seven years, maybe eight or nine years even since one I've asked for to change what we do on our
canals. Every canal home in the backyard should be able to put all the impervious they want. If you go all over Europe, etc. If you go look to other areas, whether it be asphalt, whether it be concrete, pavers, etc., there's no vegetation. The waterways stay clear.
Like at in Switzerland, Lake Geneva there. Yeah. There's like very little grass anywhere in the bottom part of that whole thing. All the rain water comes from down below, hits the asphalt, goes out, etc. The water stays pure drinking water condition all the way through. Grass and all the nutrients
that are in it cause us trouble. Um, I'm going to ask that we do this again. Let's go wave for anybody in the back. back. I mean, I need this to come back from county attorney's office and staff to draw it out, but anybody in a canal home, uh, any waterfront home period that wants to put something in the back
that's pavers that ab but the water, we should allow it. Uh, I was just at Heritage Springs, they're taking all their canals or all the ponds around it and they've kind of redone it. They're now putting rock there. There's no grass, not even dirt to the very edge just so the grass doesn't go down and get caught up into that. It's very
critical for our water quality. So Mike, if you can bring something back to us, work with the county attorney attorney's office. It's with all the stuff we're doing for water quality. This is like a critical thing and that just kind of really shows it better than ever. Um, next
pictures. I was at the uh firefighter thing as well. Thanks Pam for sending that one picture out for me. Uh, there's some more debris that's in the canals. More stuff people waiting to get picked up. That was just an email I got this morning. Okay. All right. In all, I'd just like
to say um with this CBGDR program, uh the way staff has put this together and presented it, I think we've just got some tremendous opportunities. So, as we come forward, uh looking forward to it all. And that's all I got. Do you want to mention PHSC baseball? I read your
theme. All right. So, yeah. Uh uh PHSC baseball wins the national championship. I'm going to try to get them in for the June 17th meeting, do a resolution for them, but they were down seven to three in like the seventh inning and they come up with two grand slams and win 117.
Held it off. So, great championship, great things going on. I know they were thanking with Luchi for helping sponsor to put lights on at night so they could practice at night. U but just it's a great accomplishment for the uh the area. So, thank you Commissioner W for bringing it up. But yeah, we look forward looking forward to that resolution. It be a great day. And I
didn't know if it was appropriately to Salt and Moon congratulate Wesley Chapel or should we wait a bit Jagger? Yeah. Can we wait? Yeah. That's good. Proud Wesley Chapel did great. Commissioner Wman. Go ahead. No. And then you know congratulations to
West Chapel High School uh on on their division championship and what three in the last five I think is what it is. Yeah. Two of them were us. Yep. Nor Ridge had a great run too. But anyway, hey, athletics are phenomenal. Good games. Good games here in Pasco County.
And I tell you, just a great place to live, work, and play. When you get kids playing sports, they're out of trouble doing great things. So, we got to keep on doing what we can to help our great parks department keep on doing great stuff they're doing. So, all right, we're journey. Do we sing a happy birthday to Pam? Oh, yeah. Oh,
my day is done, but but Joerger's Pam back there. It's her her birthday. Started, Seth. Ready? Ready. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday,
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