at the corner of 39 they just That'svel check check good job what happened who are we waiting on okay one two three four five we got five
oh Jack's here too what's up jack's here too yeah he's right back there jack's Jack's seats there where's he sitting no he's sitting next to you well my name tag there oh it don't matter who's not coming
scott must not have wanted to come oh I should be over here they got me all mixed up they got me all mixed that's why you're all mixed up is Scott coming i don't think so scott's chair he's sending Tyrone oh okay got
you good to see you all right all right good get this thing rolling get out of that step good morning
everyone the MO board meeting of April 10th 2025 is called to order remind everyone to please silence all electronic devices at this time please rise for the invocation and pledge of allegiance merciful creator your hand is open wide
to satisfy the needs of every living creature make us thankful for your loving providence and grant that we remember the account that we must one day give may be faithful stewards of your good gifts amen i aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all clerk could you please call the role mayor Scott Smith here mayor John here
ronald Eley here commissioner Seth Mr cather Commissioner Lisa Jagger here Commissioner Jack Mariano here chairman Matt Murphy here
all right um time for a call for public comment do we have anybody that wishes to speak anybody uh call in all right seeing no we'll move past that um move on to our action items uh need approval for the minutes
uh from November 14th so move second all in favor i I opposed all right we need um for December 10th minutes 2024 i move
second all in favor i post all right we move on now to our no advisory committee reports citizen advisory committee Mr james Malow hey good morning everybody thanks for having me here uh I am the CAC uh
chairman this year uh we had a meeting the citizens advisory meeting was held on April 2nd at 9:30 um and we did not have a quorum so I'm what I'm going to describe to you or explain to you is there is a couple times here where the
people that were there liked an idea or didn't like an idea i think they liked most of them or all of them um but we didn't have a quorum to to vote and one of the first things uh we had was um to approve a citizen uh on the committee
which we were unable to do because we didn't have a quorum um and again the minutes were not approved either so uh the report on the no board actions uh was presented by Miss Tia Gorman thank you very much uh the MO executive
director uh she provided an update on the February NO board meeting and reviewed the board meeting minutes uh no advisory committee reports voted in a new CAC and a TAC member and had uh safety performance
target discussion provided by urban SD SDK micro mobility micromobility say that 10 times fast everybody uh traffic counts and strategic plan presentation uh Florida turnpike update with a request from
Commissioner Mariano for a park and ride on Ridge Road thank you for that by the way um the uh we went on to uh the fiscal year 2025 20 through 2029 transportation improvement program which you'll hear uh
responded to as TIP amendment a request by the Florida DOT the Florida DOT District 7 requests uh an amendment uh again for the 2025 2029 transportation improvement to add a new to add a new
project uh at the intersection uh for intersection and operational improvements traffic pedestrian signals crosswalks lighting and other safety features at the intersection of US 301 and Wire Road north of the city of Zephr Hills uh again the CAC advised that they
felt this was a good project to include in the tip but there was no vote due to lack of quorum again uh we moved on to Pasco County safety action plan development task order approval uh the safety action plan is
being developed by Pasco MO in response to significant population growth increased vehicle miles traveled and a rise in fatal and serious injury crashes once finalized uh the publicly available plan will support both short-term
countermeasures and long-term transportation planning ensuring safety is a key factor in the future of multimmoal project design and investments again there was no vote on that but I believe we we like that
um transit development plan phase two uh in collaboration with PA Go Pasco uh the Pasco MO is working on the transportation plan TDP to create a vision for how the transit operation system will engage with the
transportation system over the next 10 years again um there was no vote on that so we couldn't move forward but we seem to we seem to like that as well so regarding status reports the Florida
Turnpike Enterprise Sun Coast Parkway Planning Design Environmental Study or the P PDN study uh at State Road 589 south of Andy Road to 50 South uh to State Road 52 mile post 13 through 29 mr
greg Moore FTE project manager provided an update on the Sun Coast Parkway Planning design and environmental study he presented an overview of the study indicating that the following PD and E phase uh will proceed with design
process the primary drivers for this project include current conditions of traffic volume and projections for the 2020 uh 20 actually 2050 uh for the year 2050 the project's goals are to alleviate congestion well thank you for
that uh enhance safety improve travel time and reliability and uh optimize emergency response through increased capacity we'll go on uh skip over a couple things but the the State Road 54 interchange is also undergoing proposed
improvements from its current design to enhance the capacity in collaboration with Pasco Metropolitan Planning Organization and the Florida Department of DOT uh District 7 planning is underway for a trail crossing over 54 to
prevent potential future conflicts which uh I'm in favor of um the the enhancements at Ridge Road will involve improvements both left and right turn lanes as well as a multi-use path
on the north side uh the southbound sweeping right turn will be integrated into the intersection to reduce turning speeds discussions emphasized how these changes would enhance safety for cyclist utilizing the Sun Coast Trail moving
over to State Road 52 uh enhancements would include the additional turn lanes uh improved signal operations and enhanced pedestrian features on both the north and south sides a trail overpass again very good a trail overpass bridge
at 52 was discussed though it was noted that this element will be part of a separate project and not including included in this current presentation uh regarding rangeand boulevard which a lot of people are are talking about uh FTE has been collaborating with the Pasco
County uh with Pasco County throughout the PD&E study to assess the feasibility of an interchange at Rageland which could be interdirectional rageland Boulevard would span over the Sun Coast Parkway while the trail would pass underneath
and cross the at a signalized intersection the overall footprint of the project is projected to cover a little over 10 acres go Pasco uh presented as well and uh Mr manny and
I'm going to butcher the last Mary do we know Barry come on manny manny right sorry all right uh from GO Pasco provided an update on the recently adopted operations analysis go Pasco is currently working on implementing the
recommendations outlined in their study again um they're they're almost done with phase one they're they want to start phase two and that's what they were talking about um and the final outcome will of phase one and phase two
uh will be compreh will be in the comprehensive 10-year transit plan for Pasco County um our next meeting will be April 30th 2025 and we will be meeting at the one-stop shop in in Dayate City do I have any questions
thank you everybody thank you thank you Mr malop uh next up we have technical advisory committee uh Cynthia Spidel uh good morning Cynthia Spidel uh we met so a lot of what we did is uh mirrors what we just heard so I won't go into
too much detail we met on April 2nd we actually added a couple of alternates and a new member to it um Scott Fury will give more details about that but the advantage of having some al alternates is that you can at least meet the quorum so even if they can't vote it's always helpful to have alternates
so it's always good when people want to participate um we did do a voted on a tip amendment um for 301 and Wire Road and um one of the things that came up is we the technical advisory committee wanted to make sure that there were crosswalks on all segments no one could really answer that question at the time
but we just wanted to make sure that we got that on the record um then yeah we talked a lot we got a presentation from the Florida Turnpike Enterprise which I think is going to happen today on the improvements for the veterans from uh south of Vand Road to 52 and uh Go Pasco
had asked for the opportunity to talk about park and rides um and so that's kind of an ongoing discussion and the DOT sort of emphasized that they'd like to approach a make a holistic approach to um where logical locations would be for park and rides and uh with that um
that was it our next meeting is on the 30th of April and uh thank you very much thank you uh bicycle and pedestrian advisory committee Mr brian Michaels yes good morning uh Brian Michaels BPAC
chair so the good news was we had a quorum at our meeting um we approved all our action items um the first action item was the uh tip amendment for 301 which will provide pedestrian safety uh on 301 with lighting and all the
enhancements that FDOT will install for that intersection the uh second item was the safety action plan which we're excited about because it's a countywide program that not only does traffic it also does pedestrian safety and bicycle safety at uh intersections throughout
the county our third item was a transit uh development plan phase two scope approvement u BPAC also approved that and we did get a presentation from Florida Enterprise on uh the new
intersections or upgrades to the intersections that are going uh in that are planned for um probably 2030 um we took particular note of the intersection at Ridge Road and uh Sun Coast Parkway
uh we had a pedestrian fatality there a couple years ago and we made a recommendation to put a couple of signs that are currently on the stop signs that um uh cars from the left do not stop and cars from the right do not stop so we asked uh the turnpike if they
would install them but they told us that it was a county responsibility so we're following up with the county to see if we can uh get those signs installed and and uh if you've driven through that intersection you see the white bicycle attached to a pole that's a sign that
there was a cyclist it was a a woman who cycled a lot that's all I have any questions where on 301 was that that you were mentioning earlier in your report what intersection is that close to the wire road wire road
thank you anyone else thank you sir all right we're going to move on to item number five uh fiscal year 2529 transportation improvement program
amendment request u Mr scott Barry good morning good morning the Florida Department of Transportation District 7 requests an amendment to the Pasco NPO's current transportation improvement program to add a new project consisting
of the installation of intersection and operational safety improvements including the installation of traffic and pedestrian signals at the intersection of Wire Road and US301 north of Zephr Hills the intent of the
project is to enhance intersection traffic operations and safety i just have a question how does that affect any other project or does it just get on the list and as money comes available well that came on the list because I I asked FD that
happened but the reason for it coming on the list there were six deaths at that interchange last year wow it will have it will have no impact on any current projects it's not going to knock anything else else off the list okay so when do we think anything would happen
there when would you Is there a date i'll defer to the Florida Department of Transportation if they can uh provide any information on that when they come up we don't have Thank you but I'm I'm all for pedestrian safety
100% any other questions mr chair move approval second all in favor i um approve all right thank you sir and you're back up again new member appointment
no technical advisory committee thank you the Pasco NO staff recommends the approval of Mr kevin Collier Kandumi to serve as an alternate member and Miss Rebecca Bogue to serve as a regul regular member of the NO's technical
advisory committee mr kier Kandumi serves as a planner too for the Pasco County Parks and Natural Recreation Department and Miss Boke serves as a senior planner for active transportation for the county planning development and economic growth
department are there any questions move move to approve second all in favor i oppose thank you thank you thank you all right item number seven uh Pasco County safety action plan development
task order approval uh Angelia good morning good morning due to the rapid growth in population and vehicle miles traveled on the county's roadways over the past decade oh I apologize angela Pasco MO
staff the Pasco County excuse me NO identified the creation of the Pasco County Safety Action Plan as a priority in the countywide effort to lower transportation related deaths and serious injuries for all roadway users the Pasco County Safety Action Plan will perform a comprehensive safety and crash
analysis of the county's transportation system this plan will develop safety policies and identify strategies and improvement projects for reducing a the high number of roadway crashes and the resulting injuries and fatalities once complete the safety action plan will be
a publicly available document that can be incorporated into the county's transportation goals and policies development of the plan will result in an actionable document that will provide a framework for developing short-term roadway safety countermeasures that will have an immediate impact on transportation safety as well as
policies that will guide long-term transportation projects and investments in which safety is a primary consideration the Pasco MPO requests the board vote to approve the safety action plan task order thank you approval second all in favor i oppose
thank you thank you next up uh transit development plan phase 2 scope mr tia Gorman thank you good morning this is the Pasco County 10-year transit development plan underneath go Pasco but the MO is doing the planning
and programming overall they are looking at in doing conducting phase two we've already completed phase one phase two will dive more into what professional transportation services that go Pasco will be providing over the next 10 years for Pasco County as you know they've
completed their um operation analysis and now this is the next phase or evolution of their transit planning needs so MO is providing uh the plan and programming process for the transportation development plan and we are entering into phase two as I
previously said looking for um approval review and approval mr chairman Commissioner so on this plan um have we was is the design of of the Ridge Road interchange part of this plan yet i do
not believe so but Nina Elen is here for Pasco and she can speak more on that subject nina Elen Copasco director good morning uh the answer will be no uh the DDP is only for expansion of services
for the transit system does not have to do with uh road construction okay all right so be clear so we're trying to work on doing the park and ride at the Ridge Road intersection at Sun Coast i think there's an opportunity just like we connect with Hills Hernando County on
US 19 i think there's opportunity because they have a lot of people that are driving to the airport they may be coming down as well so I think as far as an expansion of the transit system I think it's exactly an expansion of the transit system actually we have a meeting with uh the planning department
on April 28th of this month uh to discuss that park and ride loca location uh at Ridge Road and Sun Coast so yes that's the plan okay so doesn't sound like it's part of this plan and I I'd like to get this included if we can well
yes he wants to know what documents do oh we identified the location yes i mean we will identify that location but as of right now um that location is not available and that's when we're going to be uh discussing on our meeting okay so and I it just we I met with the turnpike
authority this past week um had a great meeting with them um and they're in tuned and they realize and we all I think we all need to realize we need to get everybody in the room there's certain limitations the turnpike authority has dot may have some restrictions as well we may have a
partnership coming with Hernando maybe even Citrus yes to go down that could be a great transit opportunity for everybody so the more you can get into that north north south corridor I think is is a good thing definitely agree 100% and that's that will be part of the TDP
that type of Mr starky i I think as a matter of policy anytime that we have a large employer center coming in we need to be thinking about this kind of we should be included in this conversation agree yeah and park and rides typically
they put it all the way behind some type of the property when it should be in the front uh you know along the major road so we can go in and out easy access for the buses to go yes approve second thank you all in
favor i oppose thank you uh request for bicycle and pedestrian committee member removal uh it's Angela Angela Pasco MO staff the chairman of
the Pasco MO bicycle pedestrian advisory committee has submitted a request for the rem removal of Dennis Kaggel the district 5 representative from the BPAC due to insufficient participation in the meetings mr kaggel has been absent from nine meetings over the past 12 months
the Pasco MPO is requesting that the board vote to approve this removal mr chairman Mr my appointee um I met the gentleman probably a year and a half ago he expressed a lot of interest to get involved uh I'm not sure if something happened i I just haven't had a chance
to call him yet since I just saw this a couple days ago but uh I'd like to talk with him uh if he does have a good reason for why it could be medical could be something that happened uh I'll find out if not I will find a replacement so we could delay this 30 till the next MO meeting i'd appreciate that just a
courtesy of him willing to serve i just want to find out what happened i'll make a motion to table second all in favor i I Thank you thank you all righty no go pass updates today um status reports and presentations uh
Florida Turnpike Enterprise Sun Coach Parkway Planning Design Environmental PND Study to Gregory Moore morning Mr chairman members of the of the board uh pleased to be here today to provide you this update on the Sun Coast
Parkway PD&E study uh for which we are having the public hearing uh this evening we had the virtual event on Tuesday evening it was very well attended with I think 133 uh registered participants so uh we got a lot of good
comments and and so I'll share uh this update and and be happy to take any questions i'm I'm joined by several members of of our team here from the enterprise as well so the study overview the the typical section the interchange uh improvements
that we will discuss project cost schedule and then of course I mentioned the public hearing uh this study corridor is from essentially the beginning of the Sun Coast Parkway um as it transitions out of the veterans uh there just south of Van Dyke Road and
then up to State Road 52 um the existing interchanges are the five diamonds that you see there and uh with the county's planned extension of Rangeland Boulevard as mentioned earlier uh we have also evaluated a potential new interchange um
at that location uh consistent with the planning that that has been um has gone before and so we'll talk about that as well the PD&E study as you're probably aware is is the planning process that precedes
design we do uh evaluate existing conditions and future traffic needs as part of the development of alternatives to identify a series of improvements that are uh compatible with the environmental and engineering uh guidelines that we have to work within
uh public and agency involvement is a key part of this and and that's why we have had um you know our program with the uh alternatives public meeting uh in the summer of last year and now uh culminating in this public hearing tonight as we um try to wrap up the
study we're in the late stages and should be able to finalize the project documentation sometime this summer so we'll review those recommendations and then as far as design rideway and construction uh there is a design segment uh within this this corridor is
a a fairly large project for us and so we have broken that into different segments and that first piece of design uh from that southern end up to just north of Loots Lake Fern Road is advancing uh within the next couple of months and should be under contract and
proceeding uh by the end of this year so uh good news to report there that we're making that progress um beyond that design phase there's currently no um I'm sorry can you say when you're going to be done i was distracted that So the the the study will will complete this summer
and and on the heels of that that first piece of design uh within uh that southern piece from uh Van Dyke up to just north of Loots Lake Fern um essentially all within Hillsboro County but that's the first first piece of design um and then the next segment of
design is is actually also in the five-year work program uh in 27 I think it is um and that that is the piece i I'll go through the I'll go through the limits in a minute it'll it'll make more sense with a map uh so uh you know the basis for the project is to reinforce
the purpose and need and and kind of why we're here is I probably don't have to emphasize too heavily the the the traffic demands and the and the needs that are there um you know we're aware of the rapid growth that the Sun Coast Parkway has experienced and and so that's why the focus on providing this
additional capacity um which will enhance safety and and reduce the crash experience um improve travel time reliability and then also enhance that emergency response and and evacuation characteristics um and so this this
maybe puts a little bit better context to our earlier exchange is the um the blue segment that you see there um the the first two diamonds at the at the south end that's that first segment of design and then that next piece that's just north of there will kind of
complete that blue segment up through the 54 interchange um with that next segment of design um today that's a six lane need we're aware that the the the parkway is only four lanes and so we we are experiencing that pressure um and
because this you know this expansion will take several years to develop and design and then through construction we're going to uh take it straight to eight lanes which meets that that 2040 need that will come by everything that we look at for the project is based on a
2050 horizon and so um everything that you see here with the interchange improvements and and the typical sections that we're proposing um are to meet that 2050 traffic need but in terms of the rest of the corridor north of uh
54 the uh six lanes that you'll see proposed um should get us through until that 50-year um horizon with a need that starts to appear in 2030 um and then north of Ridge Road um 2035 is where we start to trip that need for six lanes
so uh the existing Sun Coast Parkway as as I mentioned it uh was constructed with the initial four lane capacity um it was actually permitted for six lanes so the storm water ponds and the median was deliberately um left wide enough to
accommodate that widening to the inside um however uh you know the um eight lane need that is there in the south will have to be accommodated by not only filling in the median but also expanding a little bit to the outside too um to to
provide that that additional capacity and what year was that the proposed was that 2040 the the need is uh for Yeah for the u for the eight lanes it's in 2040 yeah yeah
and so um that should move through and and of course the the programming for construction is outside that five-year window but that's that was you know constructing the eight lane will get us get us to that point and then the uh the
segment to the north is is really kind of on script with the earlier planning that was done which is to provide that fifth and sixth lane by the inside widening you see there into the median you're showing six where's the eight
lane model yeah so this is the the piece to the north that's only six so we got part that's eight and then it goes north of showing us the eight one yeah the eight is here so that that's the blue piece if you remember the big map uh so how wide is it from you don't show the
uh how wide the green space is going from what to what the edge of the pavement to the sorry to the fence or whatever yeah um that's true that dimension is is not shown there because it it kind of varies a little bit okay um but the
uh you know the distance between the roadway and the trail is going to be maintained at a at a safe offset and so there are a few adjustments to the trail alignment where needed to to introduce some that additional space there um yeah but the overall corridor kind of varies
between three and 400 feet in width and so um the the roadway doesn't quite take up that much room but um but yeah so uh we and and and you might see the subtle difference here with the eight laning we're taking the entire median introducing a barrier wall
and there's no grass left in there because we wanted to maximize that space um and then consistent with the original planning there there will be a a grass strip retained within the median of the the six lane portion um which may accommodate some future
needs down down the road uh so to focus on the Pasco County interchanges uh given the setting here today we'll start with State Road 54 i'll run through the existing locations and then we'll talk a little bit more about Rangeland Boulevard so at State Road 54 we did uh
complete an operational assessment that included a number of different interchange configurations uh part of what else is going on with this location is that the as as you're aware the county is working in in uh cooperation with DOT District 7 I think to uh
implement a grant-f funded uh pedestrian overpass here i wish it was grant funded yeah oh I thought that I thought that was grant funding that came through no sir okay it's penny for I probably shouldn't be pass shouldn't be Yeah my my misunderstanding um but but the point
really the reason we wanted to share this image is that you know we have coordinated with that project we're aware that it's coming and the future improvement footprint has accommodated um you know that pedestrian bridge so that um you know with any luck that it you know it will not be impacted by the
the future construction here at 54 which will uh increase the the turn lane capacity um both from 54 onto the Sun Coast as well as the ramps uh another bit of good news I can share is that the southbound off-ramp from Sun Coast onto
54 where we're recommending the second right turn and the third left turn lane um that was identified as part of a program that we have to try to um advance some kind of lowhanging fruit improvements that provide um tremendous operational benefits and this this is
one of those that we have put into that program it's called our our TSM uh transportation systems management operations so um what you see there with the the southbound uh off-ramp that will actually be implemented before the rest of the improvement so that's coming near
term yeah experienced that intersection this week going to the X Gen X ribbon cutting i I went north to go south and um I sat through two cycles at that light to try and I ended up
figuring I'd do a U-turn on 54 but that was not a good idea so there there is a there's a big need there right exactly so and that will include the the signal improvements because that that signal will need to be expanded and then the the turn lane stored the actual lengths
of the turn lanes will be expanded also um and then the rest of the um improvements you see there we do have the shared use path carried through the interchange and in fact that applies to just about every interchange that you'll see um to have that that um pedestrian
connectivity on both sides of the road and so um that's State Road 54 um a rendering and this is courtesy of of DOT District 7 and and Omar and that team um being able to uh provide the the
rendering that that is actually just a uh a rendering and not the actual improvement it looks pretty realistic there uh so and at Ridge Road if we if we go north now up to Ridge Road u the recommendations at this interchange are
more of the same it's turn lane improvements um but we also do have the urbanization of that southbound right turn where I think that the fatality was mentioned earlier um to provide more of an urban treatment at that intersection and slow that traffic down um and so
that that has been recommended for that southbound offramp um and so uh we will have that as well as some additional turning capacity with doubling of the left turn lanes um off of ridge onto the Sun Coast as well as northbound you can
see the the offramp improvements too when do you think that light's coming in that's a scary road yeah we that question came up um in the BPAC and um we we did follow up with the county and there is a near-term schedule for that to be um implemented
um do you happen to remember the the date it's it's u we can it's near it's near-term in in planner speak it's like like right away but good morning members of the board at Nikki Ren County Engineer it's it's a
county project we are ready to go design is finished permitted we're ready to award the construction contract we actually need an agreement with FPE to allow for the installation to occur once that agreement is done we advertise and we build so soon thank you thank you
thank you sir i do know that that signal poles are hard to come by there's like there's only two manufacturers in the country and last I heard it's like a 16week lead time to order so even if they could go tomorrow it'd be four months or so before they could get the
polls okay so I'm supposed to only share good news but that's So at 52 uh we we do have again the uh diamond interchange forms that are remaining but the um off-ramp uh turning capacity and then a little bit of
geometric change there to the um the southbound on-ramp from u westbound or eastbound traffic getting onto the Sun Coast that's been kind of tightened up a little bit and that is to accommodate the future uh pedestrian overpass and this is actually a different picture
than the previous one um it is at State Road 52 where that would be installed there with the um the um previously misunderstood grant funded project that's not we'll try so but that and I do believe
that the district's very close to having the plans finished for so these are all moving ahead i know there's been coordination with us on the implementation of these okay so Rangeland Boulevard um we kind of put this one at the end just to be able to
give it the uh attention it deserves uh as far as the enterprise goes you know we are um I think I used the word agnostic at one point um during the committee updates to the interchange we we have planned for it we're happy to put it in if if if that's the local
decision that that ends up being made um but the the widening improvements can go with or without and it really doesn't change the mainline capacity needs for us um but these are the criteria that we require as we coordinate with local communities there's been a lot of focus
put on this over the years and so you know our process is that the um you know no more partial interchanges we want interchanges to provide connectivity to all directions and all movements and so that that is something we do require for new new locations uh they have to meet
the safety and operational requirements and it's it's not just for the mainline but it's looking at the cross street and how does it interact with the local network and and can we through our modeling demonstrate that there's not going to be a backup that occurs um that starts to spill back on the main line
because with you know 70 mph design speeds and actual traffic that sometimes goes a little faster than that um when we have ramps that back up on the main line that's a real safety concern for us and so we do put a lot of focus on on making sure that we have a workable
situation from an operational perspective um supported by the local community you know we we have a lot of requests like these all over the state and last thing we want to do is build an interchange nobody wants so um that that is important and in consistency with
local plans this is one that's been planned and and maybe it hasn't been well advertised lately but um in 1997 the original EIS that was done back when District 7 developed this corridor um showed an east west actually a limited
access east west our um roadway here in a systems interchange so the the the white diamond you see there has been on the map since 1997 as far as we know um and that's so it shouldn't be a surprise but unfortunately you know things kind
of drop off the radar and you know decades go by and so um but but we do have that planning consistency and I believe this improvement is something like 13 on the priority list right now um but again the the interchange would not be constructed until these criteria
are met and and again that's that's a local decision so Mr chairman Yep mr so Mr mo so going back to that point and back to 97 I don't know what the criteria was as far as one of the things we talked about in our meeting was the when you have an interchange you want to
have like a six lane connector both ways i don't know was that in place back in 97 yeah it it didn't get into that finite resolution as to the number of lanes it just showed a limited access corridor so a expressway style road if
you will um in that general location kind of south of the preserve and and avoiding those you know that environmentally sensitive area and then the interchange with the Sun Coast it planning it you know it was more of a dot on a map at that point um with an assumed width of the corridor and a
footprint for the interchange so after our conversation I thought it was something obviously we've talked about many times here we're looking forward to it um from what I'm hearing from just I'll give you one example of an email from one lady thinking of a six lane going through their neighborhood as they say is going to be intrusive to them
yeah the number of lanes on on r uh rangeand and I know Nick's here so I don't I don't want to speak too much for the county but we understood it to be a four-lane roadway um at the interchange itself so it's a four you know as just an overpass of the Sun Coast it'd be a
fourlane you know twin bridges two two lanes on each bridge um as the interchange comes in the analysis that our team did showed the needs for some additional pavement you know between the ramps and then beyond to the next adjacent intersections um so you know to
use the term six lane you know it's it's not a six-lane road in the sense that State Road 52 is a six-lane road forever and ever it's it's really just within the interchange influence area can you show them that don't you have it on the next screen yeah we well we um we did in
our coordination with Pasco we tried to provide guidance on you know kind of what what we think the needs would be in order to prevent that ramp back up on the main line and that um and and uh you know maybe that was the the source of some of the the confusion i know their team is working on you know kind of
refining that that design we we haven't seen it yet but I I think now with some of the the focus on this there's been you know a sharpening of the pencil if you will to kind of look at how we could make this you know more of a workable situation so I think you're hearing tonight that explanation probably will
go a long way to to help yes yeah and and we kind of have deliberately like on the next graph so this is this is what we're showing is you know our focus has been the interchange we have um incorporated the the rangeand alignment you know as we understand it um and it
does show in this area because our you know our concept design was um we wanted to show what we analyzed and so you will see you know that is a six lane footprint through just this this portion but the adjacent intersections to the
off the map to the west and off the map to the east um you know that's the logical place where that could be dropped back down to to four um and so yeah it's kind of TBD and and we we don't have control over anything except the Sun Coast and and those those two
intersections you see there so um I think that conversation with with you know your your county staff is still ongoing and and again the timing of this um you know this section is not funded for design yet and so it's already outside that five-year window so you
know we do have time to to get this worked out if if there's desire to advance it so Um I wish I had better answers today but that's good yes ma'am thank you Starky but um it's my understanding you own most of this land already yes so the the acquisition and I
I think this so the the acquisition is shown there shaded in yellow and that's a 10 acre uh that's a 10acre piece of property that's not owned by the enterprise or the county i think there's an additional um portion kind of within
the the infield of the loop ramp there that might be county owned that would need you know it's under some form of public ownership but it's not ours and so I think that total actually was revised up to 18 because it's that that yellow should be a little bigger but it should come
further inside the ramp i think this this slide it this the slide you'll see tonight if you attend the hearing shows 18.2 to I think 18.8 and and how does the um east west trail go through there so the east west
trail um the on on rangeand itself I think it's on the south side or is it on both sides michael is going to have to bail me out here just um currently the my understanding is that the trail is on the north side no well it's on the
south side right now well in this in this part of the concept it would it would continue across the Sun Coast Parkway on the north side so at that light people would at the light yes so they would cross at the light at the crosswalk
um the the west side light yes correct the west side light yes so that that west side signal is where you would have the east west crossing as well as a crossing and a connectivity with the Sun Coast Trail okay um my active
transportation planner is that Rebecca back there rebecca is the trail on the north side or the south side of the current Ridge Road extension that's under contract she left nick where's Nick
is the trail on Ridge Road on the north or south side of the Ridge Road that's under construction because right now it's on the south side of the current Ridge Road this is my Are we Are we talking about Rangeland or Ridge Road this is Rangeland
Boulevard oh I'm sorry you're right i'm sorry i messed up we We are hoping to move the trail go back to the Ridge Road one we we are hoping through this corridor and and we're working as they noted we're working on the Rangeland Boulevard corridor while they're simultaneously working on the Sun Coast Parkway corridor and we're trying to
coordinate our efforts but on our side we're trying to put the trail on the south side of the um intersections to avoid conflicting with ramp activity yeah um but I do think he's right i think on Beexley Boulevard the trail is on the north side which is rangeand in
correct okay can you go back to the ridge road ridge Road let's go back to Ridge Road right here okay so we have a trail we carry it through the north side
yeah and I misspoke earlier i Yeah i thought we had on the south side of Ridge so how's it getting the the you you say the trail that is the east west trail along Ridge is on the south side south how's that getting through the intersection
yeah that's that's a I'm going to need to follow up on that um because I our intent was to was to convey it through the interchange in the the most uh expeditious way possible please take So if that needs to flip-flop we'll have to change it
presumably right Nick the trail is on the other side yeah thank you for pointing that out yeah okay so we'll make that adjustment we'll look into that and adjust it
so and we I I don't think I've covered the the detail so this is the the concept that that we have developed um should the future rangeand interchange uh move forward the loops are in the north two quadrants and and serving both
north and southbound access um what was kind of motivating this and I I kind of walked through the details with the the TAC but um because 54 to the south is relatively close by um having this ramp configuration pro kind
of maximizes that spacing between the two interchanges um we we also you know the the right of way um on the the left side of the the diagram is um is already available for use and then um of course
the the 10 plus acres on the other side um the access to the parkway would be handled through uh left turns off of u rangeand boulevard and for traffic going in the eastbound direction be two left
turn lanes to serve that ramp or or I think actually just one and then the uh left turns off the ramp southbound and then the right turn to access to go northbound there any questions on the details of this i think I may have already covered too much on
it but we do I I know there's been a lot of chatter um by residents in Starky and in Beex um but if you drive I mean this has been on the maps since John Gallagher was our county administrator so um in Starky
um even before there was a Starky Ranch this was contemplated you can't have just State Road 54 going east west it'll be a parking lot um the um the question is you know everyone's worried about pedestrian
safety and I want to be sure that we talk to the residents that we could there's ways to manage that because Starky Ranch and Beexley are both very pedestrian and bike oriented and um because they have the roundabouts the
traffic will never be high speed u but we just want to be sure that we're ensuring um safety access from the north side of Starky uh Rangeland Boulevard to the south side which can be done with those lights and there's ways right right and
so if if someone tonight could please um um emphasize that pedestrian safety will be number one um yes and I'm glad you mentioned that because I I've also failed to cover the trail alignment through through the interchange um and
so as the Sun Coast Trail you know on the west side of the Sun Coast it would go under the rangeand bridge so not not a crossing of rangeand at all um it would be looped around um and and we've actually provided a design there that's
um kind of cyclist friendly so that not a bunch of sharp turns but more of a meandering curve around and then a a crosswalk at the at the signal with the ramp um is how the the trail is conveyed through the project and that's that's shown there in purple so um that's the
treatment there so another grade separation for the trail which is positive um we can come back if you think of it so um the rest of the presentation is really just um you know it's it's more than just the design of these concepts
we do an exhaustive environmental evaluation under all of these factors you see here um looking at the cultural environment the natural environment physical noise noise barriers and all of that um and so we the results of those
analyses will be available um and presented tonight at the hearing the um evaluation matrix at this stage in the project is is always a um the preferred build alternative um compared against the no build um so that we can emphasize the the nature of the project impacts
and you can see those there um you know we have a little bit of wetlands u not not much of an effect on on the natural environment in general most of those wetland impacts are actually with the rangeand interchange so um you know that's in that loop ramp area uh the
cost of the project is just south of a of a billion dollars um 984 million over that entire stretch um emphasizing the need to to kind of take it in in segments um and we we talked about that
the public hearing we talked about that too but um you know we did have the uh the study started back in 23 um we came we came out in 24 with the alternatives public meeting and now we're here toward the the tail end of the project and and
excited to see it move forward into design here later this year uh if you'd like to come to the hearing tonight we will be there starting at 5:30 and then the oral proceedings will be at 6 with the video presentation uh and then the the formal comment
period where we're hear from any members of the public that would like to provide testimony and we'll have that um following that presentation that starts at 6 and then the project website is there um the video from Tuesday should be posted within the next day or so so
um it usually takes a little bit to get that prepared but um as I mentioned we did get a lot of good comments um that evening as well uh and then our contact information i think you know Sciosce he's here quite often um me maybe not so much but but
lately quite a bit so um appreciate this opportunity and and happy to continue with any other questions um the I think there's a couple important um facts that need to be shown at the presentation and I didn't I totally forgot to sign into the virtual
one one is the projections for state road 54 and what happens if we don't do this what how you know how that road is going to function and I think we should have
samples of examples of pedestrian um light you know the lights that are activated by cyclists or pedestrians when they're trying to cross a road of potential ways to um make it safe for kids and whomever to be able to cross range land at
Beexsley that could be added and well you all know you're you're um I know that wouldn't be Sun Coast but if someone Yeah it sounds like the county's team is working on another concept and and I think there's a near-term event
that they're planning to for that um but I mean these would these would occur inside Starky Ranch around some of the traffic circles and somewhere inside Beexley maybe between the north and south side of Beexley Boulevard but I
think I think if there's a lot of traffic on the road we're going to need some kind of pedestrian activated light yeah we we are um actually uh it may have been at your suggestion but we we are going to be prepared tonight um we've got someone someone from our
traffic team coming that has a perspective on the diversion and I I'm I'm going off memory but I want to say it was high 20s in percentage diverted so with with rangeand the the traffic on 54 goes down by 20 some percent i think
it was like 27% um but we'll have that we'll have those numbers tonight too not presented officially but we'll have the we'll have the team will be there to address that with folks mr
commissioner so so working with this um I know years ago when we looked at setting up our urban service corridor we added this stretch of land at Beexley going north all the way up into Shady Hills which I'll talk about in a second part of that was the understanding this network was going to be built so as far
as like for growth development we wouldn't have allowed all those people that are probably in the audience tonight to be there if we didn't know we're going to need to build this road and had the capacity to go build the road so it is part of our network leading to that hope hope a lot of staff will be there tonight to help here if
that comes up um and if I could I'd like to now talk about the we years ago we looked at an intersection at uh Cruz Lake Denton Avenue goes all the way across turns into Platinum hits into a bridge at uh Shady Hills area and that
bridge uh Turnpike Authority looked at it a few years back and from our great meeting we had the other day found out the reason why they didn't put the interchange there or even contemplated further there wasn't enough land around it to make it happen but in the
conversation as we looked at the map we found out that if we're a little bit to the south on we're closer to where Hudson Avenue is where a lot of industrial land is etc if it connects to Hudson Avenue that Hudson Avenue connection can go all the way out to 41 which is another east west provider
which for down the road when 52 gets packed now it's going to be another reliever and probably save the intersection improvements that you're spending everywhere else on 52 as well so working with that I appreciate you're looking at that i know you're looking at that now but you may see that coming
back to us at some point down the road somewhere in here yeah if you look at if you took uh Hudson Avenue go straight across there's like room around that whole area where the Sun Coast is we're going to have to move as we redesign Shady Hills Road which is to the side that's got to be get moved out to the
side but as we redo that road which we'll I'll talk about at the end of the meeting when DOT's here but if that road moves to the side there'll be enough room to put that in and that'll be a great reliever so that all those trucks that are from Gary's Plastics etc can now get on the road from there instead
of going down 52 cutting around the road save a lot of congestion as well so again I just want to thank you for the great meeting that we had and uh looking at it i understand better what you're doing and appreciate working with you on the park and ride yeah likewise thank you
anyone else all right thank you sir appreciate it all right next up Foot update on US Highway 41 and 54 interchange
intersection craig Fox good morning my name is Craig Fox with the Florida Department of Transportation uh thank you for having us here today to present on an update to 41 and the 54 uh parts of development and environment study next slide
please oh oh sorry i do sorry that works i didn't know I was here right so just to review the uh project location and study area uh it's along US 41 and also along State Road 54 with also a.3 segment of Dale Mabberry on the bottom
left corner there to your screen um as far as along 54 it extends 1.2 mi west and also 1.2 mi east of US 41 now the project is needed to relieve congestion and also increase safety at the intersection uh this is you know
clearly a heavily used intersection with two very um major roads intersecting with each other so currently it functions at a level of service after an AM peak hours and along 54 it has around 63,000 vehicles per day and that's expected to increase to 98,000 vehicles
uh per day in uh 2050 sorry 2045 for US 41 it's currently around 69,000 vehicles per day expected to increase to 87,000 vehicles per day also in 2045 the intersection crash rate is
around 2.2 26 crashes per mill million vehicles miles traveled and that is above the statewide average for a similar type of intersection so there's significant needs for also safety increases at this intersection also US 41 and 54 are also important regional connections within Pasco County
uh they do function as emergency evacuation routes and it is also part of the strate FOT strategic interotal system um and that's shown there in blue so it goes along Dale Mabber um connect connecting to 41 it also goes east west
on 54 as far as the SIS connectivity now I'll review the existing typical sections first starting with the image on the top right which is US 41 looking north existing you have three lanes in each direction and there's also a sixoot
sidewalk on the east side of the road and there's also the CSX railway on the west side for State Road 54 we're going to look eastbound in that image uh on the bottom right that also has three lanes in each direction uh with 4ft bike lanes
on both the north and south side of the road along with six to eight foot sidewalks on both the north and south side of the road oh um is that right up is the trail right up against the road this is the existing typical section oh so so
there's existing sidewalk along 54 oh yeah 54 now we're going to look at the preferred build alternative uh start first starting off with US 41 this is again looking northbound on US41 so you have uh continue to have the
three lanes in each direction and I do want to preference that this is a typical section this is a little bit unique how this is an interchange intersection PD normally you look at along a corridor so of course there are turn lanes that do widen the footprint when you get to the intersections but just typically that's what kind of what
we're looking at here with these images so you still maintain the three lanes in each direction uh we do widen the bike lanes to 7 feet on each side of the roadway and also have a 10-ft uh sidewalk on the west side of the road and also maintain the sixoot sidewalk on
the east side of the road for state road 54 uh we do have the great separated portion because the preferred alternative does have ser 54 going over US 41 uh so we have two lanes in each direction uh great separated along with 10-ft outside shoulders and
then you also have two-lane frontage roads uh in both directions and then you also have six foot sidewalks on both the north and south side of the road i do want to note that um there were bike lanes uh that have been added on throughout resurfacing projects along along the um you know throughout the
timeline so that's kind of why we don't show them necessarily in this concept but in the design we will be adding the bike lanes to um be consistent with existing conditions and this is also the proposed bridge uh that will bridge not only US 41 but also
the uh Lowe's uh village lake intersection to the east so bridging over 41 and then also the Lowe's intersection and they'll be signalized intersections underneath those intersections but again you have the two uh lanes in each direction along with 10 foot shoulders on the bridge typical
section now the PDE study did look at all these uh different factors we did have the results of the our analysis of natural resources cultural resource so social environment and physical environment uh those are presented at the public hearing uh that was held on March 25th
and they're also available online now I'm going to review the rightway impacts so we do we do see an impact to 79 parcels and that is not of course um 79 complete um whole rightway takes many of the impacts are partial takes and the businesses and residences
are able to function um as they do today but while we do anticipate with a preferred alternative 36 potential business relocations and four potential residential relocations so now we have the evaluation matrix uh the no build is always a viable
alternative we carry that throughout the life of the project along with uh the impacts to the preferred alternative uh so those are shown in the image sorry the table on the left side of the screen along with the project costs on the right side of the screen uh so just a quick summary of the project costs for
rightway um for roadway impacts and pond impacts you're looking at upwards of $200 million combined and then for the construction cost um the estimate is uh north of around $28 million with a total project cost from
design all the way through right away of $516 million so it is a very um major project so during the public engagement that we had leading up to the public hearing uh we did have uh we did some small group meetings with communities uh surrounding
the intersection and we did receive um quite clear feedback about some concerns a lot of it due to access um as you can imagine when you go great separate on a roadway um one of the side effects of that is that you have to cut off some medians so that would involve some folks
making some uh pretty sec to secure this um U-turns and and movements to get to the property while now there's an existing median opening so the department developed uh two additional options uh with 41 going over 54 and uh the option on the left
involves a DDI diverging diamond interchange kind of what's existing right now 54 and uh and um I75 and then the option on the right is a single point urban interchange and that's similar to what we have in the preferred alternative um so from the
public hearing um this the first first time it was shown to the public was at the public hearing uh we did see received a lot of feedback on those uh two options and and most uh respondents were strongly in favor of a 41 over 54 option with this with the DDI being the
most um preferred one uh from public response uh so these are very preliminary um concepts we don't yet have we we haven't yet incorporated the bike ped infrastructure into it and as you can see there are no ponds um proposed ponds on there however we do
anticipate that um these options would especially since you kind of shorten the amount of structure that you're building it would shorten uh it would minimize the amount of ponds and thus impact and reduce some of the rideway costs with this and through our very high level initial traffic analysis the DDI of
course um would function at the intersection a little bit better so the department hasn't made a determination on that yet um we're still kind of taking in the data and an analyze an analyzing it our public comment period just um completed on the 4th so we're just taking in all those public comments and then we're going to discuss it
internally um but there was a strong um response from the public in favor of the option on the left okay sure commissioner can you go back sure we can't tell well I can't tell from this might be my eyes uh who's right in right
out or whose access is restricted can you blow that up and tell us what what the public was talking about okay so on the preferred alternative um which is the one on the which one no I'm sorry i I don't have the the preferred alternative shown in in this one these
ones are the options the use 4154 options with this with the preferred alternative that one was of course 54 going over 41 because because of the railroad track it well the railroad track um it impacted it because of uh when we were go railroad line we had to
raise our roads around 7 ft higher so that extends the length of of the ramps leading up to the overpass um and since you're going great separated uh so a lot of the intersections um so at um at Devon Oak Boulevard and also at Hunt is
it so Hunt and Devon Oak are the two green kind of images that you see on there that those are those two roads uh a lot of those residences would be um would be limited in the amount of moves they can make right now they can make left turns and U-turns um but in the preferred alternative 41 sorry 51 go to
over 41 they'll be restricted because you have to separate the traffic and you have to great separate them get them over um the intersection in addition to that on the east side um at Heron Cove uh there was concern some concerns um because today uh they
have a pretty decent amount of traffic is unsolized intersection in front of their residents and uh so to get out there dependent on the brakes that's the brakes in traffic that's created by the Dale Mabber signal now if we go great separated is more free flow condition so there's a great concern from folks there
with um being able to that we losing those brakes because then you have free flow condition um so so that was just some of the concerns um that were brought up from folks along 54 now with the um north south um options uh with 41 going over 54 that railroad crossing uh
sorry the railroad tracks it's very it already kind of limits access so you have fewer driveways fewer residences um um coming onto the roadway so there would still be you know no matter what you do you go great separate there's going to be some access impacts but we just anticipate there'd be um far less residential ones uh with this north
south option mr chairman commissioner so I think I think the four the flag 40 41 over 54 is the ultimate way to go uh the other things you've also got a this DOT's got a program coming up where they got to fix a void that's out to the east
of the Lowe's plaza where they got to do a shutdown as they reconstruct so it tells me it's even weaker down that way if you try to go that way i think the other way is better um so I'm I'm glad you're looking that diverging diamond
works great wherever where wherever I've seen it so I think that's a great way to go um if that works better so be it but um I think the other way 61 businesses that's a lot of business to put out put out of work and however we can minimize
that the better and I think that northern way is definitely going to be I I would like to see the number of business comparison to how much you're going to shut down going one way to the other way it would help so this Oh I was just going to say about the
businesses this intersection has been planned for 30 40 years so I can tell you I have friends who own some property near their Sierra Village and um Sienna Village sorry um anybody who
moved in there in the last 30 years they should I mean I kind of I mean it's been known forever i remember when the McDonald's guy called the guy that used to own all the franchises he wanted to know when this intersection was coming because he was debating on remodeling his store or not
he knew they all know it's something's coming there so um uh that's I mean I I would like to do we help the businesses relocate i mean yes plenty opportunity on 41 for Yes yes so so whether a business is um a business property owner
and owner of their building or whether they're a tenant um in in a bigger um multi- business unit uh we do work with with all of them to relocate and reestablish their businesses and we're definitely not in in the in you know in favor of just you know shutting down and
and close off businesses we know they're vital to the community and the econom and the economy of the community so more often than not we do um we're able to reestablish those businesses um sometimes through negotiations with with with the bizota sometimes they want to you know shut down and close up shops sometimes they're okay with with with w
with relocated somewhere else but we definitely always do try to um um do what we can to make sure that they can function um another question I had was um and maybe it's just too much money but is there no way to on any of these
turns to do like a I don't even know what the word is like you're elevated and you come down like an on-ramp off-ramp so that you don't you're not sitting at a light to go north on 41 or south there's not there's nothing like that built into this design it's just
straight over right yeah yeah so so so so it is straight over and and one thing that you can't really see on on here is that we actually do have including these options a reconfiguration of the Dale Mabber and 41 intersection and so in these concerts we would actually be
taking some of that traffic and and and and creating flyers so you wouldn't have those major conflicts and kind of sideswipes um scenarios that you have um uh today and so by taking by by being a DDI at least with the option on the left the option on the right is spooy so that
functions like a regular intersection uh but with the DDI option um it does give quite a lot of advantages as far as when you get folks there because then you don't have to have a separate turn signal for left turns because it's all just two movements you just go one direction goes and the other direction goes and it's a lot more efficient so
you don't have to split it up into through left you know and and then right so um we did consider a flyover but the more structures you add then the more that cost starts to go up and then um you know and then the more impacts that that you have um but did you consider a
DDI with 54 flying over we did not consider a DDI with 54 going over and that one would introduce um some that that one would probably more challenges a little bit more rightway impacts just because one of the one of the issues
that we're facing now even with the the option on the left is that um you you reduce you eliminate the option to go through at grade so we're looking at right now how to how to make sure that we accommodate folks along the corridor
since we're kind of limited on the west side with a railroad crossing inevitably we have to push a road to the right so that may impact some businesses and a lot of along there and we may have to relocate them but in doing so then you reduce that need to facilitate that
great through movement so that's one of the main limitations that you have with with a DDI a lot of times you see DDIs are at like an inter like an inter interstate where you don't really have through movements because it's an interstate um but this one being an arterial you kind of limit it in that
faction fashion so I think a a DDI with um 54 going over 41 would introduce more challenges than having it with 41 going over over 54 okay um I'm kind of surprised that you're
you're still thinking of other alternatives i mean when are we going to put this baby to bed yeah so so so I'm glad you asked that question and and and trust trust to be the department we want to get this thing done and built too um one thing I do want to note is that although you know we are talking about
you know um you know looking at additional option uh as far as from a PD study perspective we're we're increasing a little bit of the impacts on the southwest side with you know extending further south on 41 but as far as the
impacts along 54 and also north of um 54 we're reducing those impacts so we don't have to restudy the whole thing we just have to study a little bit more areas in that bottom right corner and we can still wrap up the PD study um in a
fairly short time that it won't delay a design we're still scoping out the design um and we're still you can still move forward with the design to a certain point um but you know we're statuto allowed to do that and we can still do we can still re-evaluate complete the PD without slowing down the
design process so uh one last thing um Jack and I and uh some others were up in Washington DC and we went around to our federal delegation let them know about this project and I know uh last year you
uh um FOT tried to get a was it a build or a raise grant i don't know what it's called right now uh for 52 u we weren't aware that you guys had applied for a federal grant um and I know Congressman Bill Arachus had signed on to that but we um I know we at the county want to
move this as fast as possible and probably the whole Tampa Bay region does so we mentioned it to Senator Scott Senator Rubio and all of our delegation that we we anticipate u an ask from FDOT coming in and we
wanted all of them to sign onto it to get this moving as fast as possible so what is the earliest part of the process that a federal grant can be applied for i'm going have to ask for is it design acquisition
um build yeah good morning everybody brian Hunter with the Florida Department of Transportation so construction would be the um the phase that we would apply for a infrarant um build is kind of like a $25
million that kind that range size project infra mega they're for much larger projects like this one so we would once we have identified the entire right-of-way funding for the project that's when we would start applying and working with our federal partners to to
give them awareness that we're going to apply for it and then when the the timing is right it's usually about two or three years ahead of construction is when you apply for it so we can apply for um acquisition funding they typically don't fund the um rightway
acquisition the federal government looks at rightway as a risk for a project and so they want to see that we either acquire have acquired all the property and or have the funding in place to acquire all the rightway that we need do you know um if we can ask start asking
our congressman you know we get to do some ear air ear ear ask for ear marks and we have congressman Lee and congressman Bill Arachus and if we start asking them to get some money every year for this um the next few years I think
we already committed for next next year this is not in it right was this in what our list yesterday so if next year We asked for both of them to help put in some acquisition money we we just really need to move this along guys we can't wait 20
years for this to get built um so and with your help and the state's help you know we've got to get this going yeah we we completely agree we are trying to move this one as fast move this one through to production as fast as possible so but you don't even have a
horizon for the funding for acquisition right now do you uh we do we have $36 million current $36 million currently programmed to for acquisition um that starts in fiscal year 29 yeah that's what I'm talking about that's you're
going to start buying in 29 yes ma'am yeah yeah that's crazy so we didn't start out then if you're realistically realistically we have it all depends if we go with one of the options that's shown here there's the
potential for right ofway to be re the rightway needs to be reduced which would accelerate that process if everything went quickly if everything went quickly we'd probably be looking at like a finishing up rightway acquisition 31 32 and then two years after that
i'm telling you we can't we have to all be pushing this Mr chairman Commissioner so a few years back we had a Hicks road project we were trying to get right away and we had all these individual people one by one by one to come together we actually had a
meeting we brought them in and we had a lot of them just sell it at a regular price and it moved a lot quicker although otherwise a project would have been probably 10 years down the road i know you have rules you got to follow that you can't do it with right away but I I'll say this i know there's a project
on 41 where there was a restaurant that was along uh you paid the restaurant off they ended up keeping the property changed the parking on the other side and the business never skipped a beat but they got full fully reimbursed all the way through there could be some
opportunities coming up here the same type of thing could happen where you're driving up your cost you don't need to so I think at some point when we're getting closer to how how this goes through you're going to be able to set up offers for all the people initially and they can contest or not contest and
if they go to where we can keep it sooner I think a lot of people out there would say you know what I'll take my lesser number knowing you can build this thing quicker if we can go uh this project at the TMA was elevated by two commissioners to the south to make this
a top priority project to one of the top five to where it's elevated through so it's it's definitely a regional thing and if I look at if anybody looks at that map and they see the two six lane highways coming up to 41 you'll know that we're not causing this issue this is a big big deal for everybody here
that that needs to happen i think the region wants to see this thing go and I think the businesses in that whole area and everybody in that area that has a business would rather see traffic relieved and make that intersection better as opposed to the other way around yeah so we're willing to work
with you publicly with with the business community to say here's how we need to go do this with a public meeting yeah no we're we're on board with anything we can do to accelerate the completion of this project so I I I have another question but I can go after Commissioner
Oakley commissioner Oakley well I I just have a question because this seems like this is we've been talking about this for many years 20 years and um we should have had to ask for a grant or help to get a grant for FDOT prior to
now cuz right now they're telling us they don't want any other projects on those lists for the next year who ralph ralph are asking list you mean um asking Billis and
Congresswoman Lee yeah um there's they've set us for a certain number but this is not included in those no um yeah that's why I'm I'm bringing that up have a problem be included but I'm not sure they would
accept it so well Bill said he didn't want anything to you know be added good to be early so I have a question um you know we signed on to a a funding for a big regional project twice the last one that
Pasco County supported was the West Shore interchange i believe this is to you maybe um where did that money come from to do the Westshore interchange that funding came from the CIS capacity improvement pro program
and this is part of the CIS right we do have a portion of the CIS that is dedicated to the interstate which is where a lot of that funding came from and yes this is part of the CIS so it would be eligible for CIS funding so have you is that separate from the money
you said you have set aside right now so some of the money that we have set aside is from the CIS funding um the CIS is funded a little differently than our typical work program so we do a five-year work program for all of our projects but the CIS is a 10-year work program so we have the first five which
is incorporated into our work program and then the second five is the the longer lookout because those are usually very expensive projects like this one and so this is currently funded in the second five it's just not a legislatively approved work program
project so we don't call it funded it's in the the funding program for the second fire and and for our new people here um could you explain again what the CIS is it is the strategic interotal system it is the network of roads that is the most important for moving people and goods in the state of Florida it is
legislatively limited to a certain mileage and so it's very it's those roads that are the most critical for us to make sure that we have those mobility options for people and the movement of people and goods throughout the state of Florida okay so since you said it's not legislatively approved yet is that
something we need to do here is get this legislatively approved and then we can get some more money how we typically do that is um as we add that new fifth year the projects that were in that second five CIS program they just work their way into the work program the second five is a little more of like
our long-term planning so that we know where the CIS capacity dollars are 75% of our capacity dollars in the state of Florida so we plan those a little bit further out just so that we have a better understanding of what the the funding horizon looks like on those last
10 and and are you when we're talking about this is this District 7 CIS money or state CIS money the CIS is planned at a statewide we do go to them with our priority projects of which this is one of them and who what is your can you tell me the top five on your list right
now in district 7 we got a bunch of them funded so I know that this one is um we have this is not funded so it's no the we got a bunch of them recently funded we've had really good success we have been able to show a need like we are with this one so which
ones did you get funded not west interchange the downtown interchange the um interstate capacity just north of the downtown interchange to Hillsboro uh Boulevard and then also the express lanes on 275 south of the house so all
of them are in Hillsboro County uh Penllis County as well so the when's the last time Pasco got one i believe we have some significant SIS money on the uh 52 corridor project
well we were unable to get any um we we sent a letter while I was chairman last year to support the uh grant that would actually for that part of 52 both those parts one and we didn't get it instead of two but it did not go through it did
not get and we also had sis money on the uh 56 I75 interchange the reconstruction of that so well um is there anything we can do legislatively to ele to push this along
a little quicker we typically don't get um involved in legislative requests okay and so we'll ask someone else then that's okay i got a person I can call so Huh i have a person I can call yeah me
too mr chairman thanks hey Brian would you come back over for a second so a few years back at the TMA we made the Westshore interchange a top priority for the TMA and that got built within
like three years it got started funded etc so this then replaced that one as that got off the list this got into the top five from the projects you just mentioned compared to what was on that list it seems like we're not getting
right this funding where we should be in line two projects ago so the yes and no so we we have to when we do our funding allocations regardless of the local priority list we have to
allocate the funds commensurate with the population of those counties over a time period and so Pasco County is getting your fair share I will say when last time I looked at that and it's just a matter of there's only so many of
these big massive projects that we can undertake at any one point in time you know we have to we have to space them out a little bit this is one of the next you know big projects that we'd like to see move forward and that's why it's in our CIS uh second fiveyear so as you say
like we don't have the population to get the clout that Hills got but I got two six lane roads from Hillsboro coming up to my county to this intersection i mean this should be a Hillsboro problem not a county Pasco County problem and when Penelis County can't go east west either because we're the only east west
corridor up there we're we're carrying the burden our people are sitting the traffic from the south and the other side coming across so if the TMA like I said two counties to the south of us made this a top priority object just like Westshore we should be getting this
thing done a lot quicker i agree yeah we'll like I said we'll do everything we can and there may be some opportunities for us to leverage some of those um the TMA priority funds we get a small pot but you know I think this is one of those projects that anything we can put to it earlier is going to be better off
for us and so even if it is a you know a couple million here or there we can definitely take a look at that and see if we can leverage those funds so I would like this presentation done we've got our tri county meeting coming up i want every commissioner from Pasco
there because we need to have this conversation are we going to need to elevate this up letters of support and I think regionally we're all talking about working together this is something regional together if it takes the trips to DC we've hired Ballard uh as a partner and I think working with even
whoever the other counties have if it takes a DC trip or two to to get this rolling to get extra money in here because it is a regional project then we need to make that happen it's not a Pasco project it's regional and uh I mean I'm the little city of
Newport Richie but I you know I have to travel that road and going across and I I can't imagine what it's going to look like in 10 years exactly um with a million people projected to be in Pasco i mean forget Hernando don't forget Hernando yeah and Hernando too so I mean seems like everybody should be getting in the room on this one having a little
summit and getting this done you know in five years um it's you know that important so this plan is consistent with the long-range transportation plan of the Pasco MO and is also marked as a project of regional significance um in the West
Coast Florida regional long-range transportation plan um so just sure nope i can't read it thank you so just reviewing the project timeline
uh FDOT did have a public hearing uh in December of 2015 and afterwards it was put on pause as um as FDOT along with um Pasco County went forward with the Pasco vision 5456 study um and then FDOT there
were four alternatives discussed um within that study and of course the no build and FDOT had a public workshop back in 2016 uh which the preferred alternative was the selected alternative it's my birthday oh nice and then um FDOT then had um public
hearing back on March 25th um and at that hearing we also um you know introduced the two options that we have today so this is where we are in the project in the process um we're anticipating finalizing documents uh summer 2025 now if you do go forward
with the option that will delay that a little bit but um I do I do want to note again that that it's not going to hamper the design for moving forward we're currently scoping out the design so that uh regardless of which option is selected we still move forward with that and we're going to move forward with that um even though we don't have all
the funding finalized we want to make sure that we have the design ready enough that we can quickly move forward once that funding does become available so that summer might might change depending if we go with one of the other options so we had the public hearing on Tuesday March 25th uh the
inerson session was at the Lando Lakes Recreational Complex and we also had it simultaneously online via Goto Webinar it was well attended we had around 156 in person with around 120 online with a total of around 276 um
individuals we also had 56 uh comments via the project website 10 mailed i got two more this morning so that's 12 mailed along with 40 um comments at the public hearing
so here's my contact information along with um the project website and if there's any more questions I open the floor to them now we have work to do no problem well thank you all for your support and we look forward to continuing with this project thank you and um we do would like you to
present this at the Tri County meeting so we'll have to take you that information if you or someone Sure not a problem it's It's in Pasco County is it May 2nd it's coming up i think it's at um Stark Cultural Center okay is that
May 2nd okay friday May 2nd we'll do thank you all right so on to other business next meeting for MO is going to be on Thursday May 8th 10 a.m in uh Dave
City does anybody have anything else before yes um I have a nomination for the BPAC please i'd like to uh nominate uh Miss Mrs allison Crumbley to the BPAC committee second all in favor i I oppose
welcome get a woman on there i'd like to talk to Brian for a minute um so Brian and I want to thank you for the relationship that we got you guys do a phenomenal job so I want to know but it's tough for you to know exactly what's going on in the county um I know you're working on Keline Road um can you
tell me what where we where we funding for that and progress for that so the design right now is currently underway for basically Mariner to the east to the Sun Coast so we're designing that as a fourlane facility we have right-of-way
estimates for um that piece and we're working with both counties to identify uh funding sources for we've got a strategy in place to fund the rideway that would require some money from each uh county but we're able to leverage
that and basically a 2:1 ratio so it' be you know 10 million from the two counties and we'd end up with 25 with the different programs that we have that would allow us to complete the rideway acquisition for a four-lane facility um
and so that would be you know like 27 28 I think is the year that I have some tucked away money that we can get that done and then we'd be looking at construction two years after that okay um and on Shady Hills Road I want
to get with you guys is that something you guys are going to be building with us as well or is that just I'm not aware of any Shady Hills Road but I can look into and see if we are okay because we're going to definitely need to be able to shift the road to make that work for down the road okay um and if you
would keep an eye on the um there's an intersection at 52 in Colony Road also it's like an is a median right now at Parkwood fire trucks have to like swing around we watched people the other day swinging around i've got right away from in front of a Dunkin Donuts that's there
and I think it's a Dollar General that that come into that road it's a vision road connecting i've got a lot of homes coming up and I need to get that as a as a priority to kind of like look at safety etc coming up so we have I was just looking at this we have a reservicing project that's coming
through there the at Shadow Ridge right now is the full median opening we're going to shift that over to Colony okay and we have a traffic warrant signal analysis going on right now to see if there's a justified for a signal at colony so we should know in the next
month or so what that's going to do and if it if it doesn't meet that threshold and we need some additional development information from you I'll reach out to your office to make sure we get that so we can factor that in all right because I think with the developments that we have coming in etc plus we're looking at
connecting that road going up um is it's going to be definitely needed otherwise it's going to be a it's very dangerous right now anyway it's going to get a lot worse and there'd be a lot more risk that we a lot more safety issues that we have to deal with so I'd rather do it now so I appreciate you working with us
all the way through um I have a question i I know you don't have it but if you could get me the information could I see um the planting rules you have under your power lines please yes I can get that for you thank you just mail it to email it to my office a little bit and then No there
was something else tia was there something else that you and I talked about that I was going to ask i think you covered and I know there was a question earlier about when Wire Road is going to construction uh that project should be advertised and selected in September so
two to three months after that is when we'll see Derpy in turn so end of the year that'll be good thank you i just I just want to jump on what Jack said too about um about um what road no that that
one too no um not Haze Road um Shady Hills shady Hills shady Hills so there's a bunch of schools on Shady Hills Road and there's no sidewalks either and we have lots of new developments going and it's kind of like a death trap but I think those developments are adding
sideways they are but not enough it doesn't connect so and then the other one like you said with Colony um there's a new development so when you when you're looking at that please please please take in all the new development to your in consideration when you're
doing that yeah we typically do but if we don't have that information I'll reach out to your offices to make sure we get it convenience store or something to like to get into the on Yeah like a illegal U-turn type offer so yeah landscaping on 52 oh yes that beautiful
landscaping on 52 okay um it keeps coming in and coming in um and you guys are going to maintain that you told me yes so how do we get that on on uh State Road 54 in what segment any segment 54 and 56 56
the new extension that really could use something 301 probably what she's talking about i'll get back to you get back to you on that one i know that we we are maintaining we typically don't install landscapes and maintain maintain it
something must have fallen through the cracks on our end um we typically install it based on a request from the county or the city and then we install it and then pass it through the maintenance through a maintenance agreement but you know if we if you want
to talk about doing landscaping on 54 and 56 we can talk with your office about that see if we can um we'd be more than willing to participate in the installation it's the maintenance that is really the challenge for us long term because we don't have
our budget doesn't account for landscape maintenance yeah when there's a trail on 56 and down 301 and I talked to some of y'all when we cut the ribbon on the 301 trail that um if you don't shade them they don't really get used in Florida
and so um even if it's just some shade trees down the side that provide some shade but it's too hot in Florida to get out there and really enjoy those yeah if you have any particular locations uh if you want to work with Tenia or Nick and
get that information over to me I'll see what our options would be out there and see which you know native plant pallet we can we can pick from out there and put something in that'll Okay accommodate your needs thank you anyone else
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