Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. 2025 meeting of the MO board to order. Uh be aware that this meeting is being broadcast. At this time, please rise for
the invocation and pledge of allegiance. >> Gracious God, we invite you into our discussions today. Unite our hearts, guide our conversations with wisdom and patience. Help us to seek solutions that honor you and benefit everyone involved. In your name, amen
to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> All right, clerk, could you please call the role?
>> Mayor Scott Black >> here. Councilman Lance Smith, Mayor John Eric >> here, >> Commissioner Ron Oakley, Commissioner Seth Waitman, >> Commissioner Catherine Starky >> here, >> Commissioner Lisa Jagger,
>> Commissioner Jack Mariano >> here, >> Chairman Matt Murphy >> here. >> All right. Uh, time for call for public comment. Um, let's see. We do have a couple people. We want to do the um
virtual first. Are they on the line or >> hello? >> Good morning. >> Uh yeah, so I I'm 1855. Uh, and I have
>> Could could you say that road again? >> Your road again? >> Uh, road. >> Sorry. >> So, basically, I just wanted to to uh I want to say that I like a lot of the things that we're doing here. You know, like the the the
stop sign, you know, project I think that's what it was called. Uh, sorry if I misremembered the name, but basically I wanted to uh basically say that I really like uh mixeduse stoning and I think that that's
something that's on the path of 2050 plan and I think it's really good. Uh, and I uh I think if we get it sooner rather than later, it would contribute really positively to most of the things that uh we talked about in the city
agenda. That's that's basically all I wanted to say. >> Okay. Thank you. We appreciate it. >> All right. And we have someone that signed up that's uh here in person also. Or do we have more people on the line? Okay.
Come on down. >> I'm Melanie Lambertson. I live at 184 Spring Lake Highway, Brooksville, Florida, right over the county line from Pasco. I am taking this opportunity to speak my opinion and plea for
consideration regarding the air's road extension project. I live on Spring Lake Highway which is right in the crosshairs of this project. No matter which corridor offered by FDOT is chosen. This area is completely rural and beautiful.
It is the only exit off I75 that I know of where you could leave the interstate and be greeted by nature instead of the usual buildings, buildings, buildings and traffic. As you proceed in either direction into Pasco or Hernando County,
the natural beauty of this area continues with rolling hills, pastures, and forest with occasional homes. This is why my husband and I live here. We do not want it taken from us by multi-lane roads that we live on to allow for faster,
deadlier traffic past our door. Wider roads mean faster traffic mean more fatal crashes. We believe most of the people who live in this area either grew up here or chose this area to make their home because of its natural beauty. We also believe they oppose the heirs road
extension through our community as providing for high traffic in this area would ruin its very nature. Who would ever want to have a multi-lane road through their property? The ecological impact of the area must also
be considered. We are on the central ridge which is one of the places our aquafer depends on for water. Paving and developing in this area is therefore contraindicated. Florida is running out of water and this must be taken into account well before
the last drop is gone. I believe that multi-laning the roads necessary for the heirs road extension project would only drive more widespread development in Pasco and Hernando counties, more clusters of dense housing and of course more traffic. Indeed, I question if
development by land speculators is the reason this project has been proposed. I believe the air's road extension project is not feasible for easing traffic from heirs road south of Highway 41 because there is already a route available. Colreath Road, also known as
Bellamy Brothers Boulevard, is currently being used to connect with I75 at 52. Some updating is badly needed on that road to ease traffic flow. starting with a traffic light at Colorth and Airs instead uh yes instead of a blinking red
light but it would serve the purpose without driving more undesired development and traffic through pristine countryside. We need to fix the problem not make it worse. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.
>> Next one is Chris Lennox. First 35241 Glen Road. Um just basically same same issue as as the previous speaker. >> First time ever speaking in a forum like this. I'm a little nervous, but um same thing. Not nearly as eloquent as
she was and exhausted as she was. But I guess the way I'm looking at it is again we move like many of the neighbors moved in that area kind of a rural area. stay away from all the traffic, stay away from um all the issues that come with that. And
now I see that it seems like that plant road exit, which is right down the road from us, is becoming is going possibly going to become much much busier, bring a lot more traffic, a lot more issues with that. Um, it seems to me that
rather than extending AR's road towards us, it would be wiser maybe to go and I don't know what how FDOT came up with this, but maybe to maybe redirect that traffic towards 50 or 52 away from Benton Road. Those roads were already
built up, continue to build up, I guess. I mean, they're already there for for that purpose. Um, it also seems to me that it's it's another bite into this northeast Pasco rural district. Um,
which was set aside again for to to keep it rural. So again, it's just overall just it it just seems to me it's a bad idea. Um, it's going to hurt hurt those residents in that area and um I just
simply oppose it. Thank you. Thank you. >> Next person signed up is Nancy Hazelwood. >> Receive and file for my name. >> Name and address for the record. >> Nancy Hazelwood 34110 a nice place date
city Florida. Who receives and files here? >> I'll make a motion accept. >> Second. All in favor? Good. >> All right. >> Okay. I wasn't sure whether you all knew
about this road project. And um some of you know me. You know that anything in the northeast rural protected area is pro I'm probably going to be talking about it is a 38 miles of four lane
highway mostly in Hernando County and to Pasco at Lake Iola Road which is also Spring Valley Road. There are three quarters that all end at Blandon Road, Highway 41, and Pasco County at I75. All three quarters come into the county
from Spring Lake Road that turn into Lake Iyola Road in Pasco. This is why I'm here. Every single proposed card comes into the northeast rural protected area plan of Pasco County. Will this become another overpass road?
That scares me to death. They started building high density growth and overpass before it was even finished. Every suggested carter goes through ranches, farms, agriculture land, and significant wetlands.
There was one public meeting for this study and it was held in Hernando County about five miles from the study area. At that meeting, there were three quarter options and one that said no road. That one got the most votes. If Hernando
County wants a highway, why should it be in Pasco County and Pasco pave where it's a county road? My objection says plan R in Hernando and Pasco. This study goes through heavily agriculture land. When it comes when counties all over
Florida are trying to save a open space to save our natural resources, Pasco County wants to destroy them. Maybe our ad commissioner can help out. He champions a lands and these 30 these
38 miles of a land. It would help us campaign next year. Maybe we can talk to him about this. To be respectful to the citizens in Pasco. A meeting on this quarter should be held in Pasco County. These are country roads. Where's the
funding coming from? Why not put it on the ballot and let the people decide if they really want to pay for another highway? I'd like I want to make it clear that the communities in Pasco affected by this highway do not want a highway through their rural
protected area. If Fernando wants a quarter to I75, why don't they use the already expanded exit at Highway 50? This highway does not benefit Pasco County and your citizens do not want it. Thank you. I appreciate
your attention and hello and have a good day. >> Thank you. >> The next person to sign up is Christy Zimmer. >> Good morning. >> Morning. >> It's been a while since I've been up here. Christy Zmer, 3615 Pine Cone
Court, Landanda Lakes. I am here to speak against the merger of the NPOS's. I joined the citizen advisory committee back in 2002 and I served for 20 years. During that time, I was also got a promised to get involved with the JCAC.
When I went to the first meeting, they told us that Pasco didn't have any voting rights because they had to write us out. No one was attending and they needed a quarum. I said, "That's no problem. Let's change the rules. I promise to be here." Well, we can't do that. It has to go through the Secretary of State. I said, "No problem." I happen
to know him. It was Kurt Browning at the time. I said, "Rewrite it. We'll get it passed." We did. And what we were able to do is get each county to have three votes for the JCAC, which was unheard of at the time because only Hillsboro and Pineellis were controlling all of that.
The things that we were able to do and the things that I got involved in as a volunteer on the TBR advisory committee as well were amazing. I feel and I'm very afraid because this NO has been trying to be pushed to be a merger for a very long time and we've been able to
keep it at bay because we fought hard to keep our autonomy. I truly believe it'll be a negative impact on our potential funding with the things that I saw during that time. I don't want LA Pasco to lose its strength. When we got involved and started doing great things,
we started getting a lot of money into Pasco County. You guys have a lot of pull, more than you realize. I don't know how active the CAC is anymore. I've not been involved in that. But I would please encourage you to keep your autonomy, keep your independence, keep
your allowable voting rights within that organization so that you can continue to get the projects and funding that you've been able to get over the years. If you merge, you're going to lose it to the bigger counties that are going to wipe you out. I've seen it. Be careful.
Please vote no. >> Thank you. The last person I have signed up is the lady. >> Okay. Cindy Buckle 59 three. Wait a minute. Five. Yeah. 5938
Frontier Drive, Zephr Hills, Florida 33540. My concerns are with the roads. I keep track of all the accidents and fatalities. I was a PA a paramedic for
15 years. So, these are things near and dear to my heart. Right now, Pasco County has nearly 6,000 accidents with 5,400 injuries and 70 deaths in Pasco County.
Um, most of this is because of improper traffic lights. Uh, Pretty Pond and 301 needs a left turn signal heading east doesn't have it. Um,
Pretty Pond and Wire Road has a four-way stop. People blow by. My nephew was critically injured not long ago because a woman blew through the stop sign and hit him, t-boned him. Okay. The other issue is 301 and State Road 56 where the
traffic backs up to Hillsboro County line and State Road 56. You cannot make a left turn without sitting through 10 traffic signals. Um there is a development going on at the
beginning of my road that has blocked us in all week long. Yesterday they had us driving on dirt to get out. They are allowing construction vehicles to pass
before they let residents get out of our the only place that we can get out of. Okay. Morris Ridge Road and Chansy has been closed for several months. They claim it's a water man. It's not a water man. It's an actual sinkhole. And I
check on it periodically and it's still an issue. Um, Blandon Road Fire Department. They do not even have a flashing yellow light. And I was told that's because there's not enough traffic. There's plenty of
traffic. The new station 18 on Chansy Road has a light, but it's solid green. Florida statute states fire departments need flashing yellow lights. So, I'm not sure why this isn't happening, but I've
had the fireman who actually took me to Tampa after I had a severe motorcycle accident handed me the number to the battalion chief and asked me to call him and ask for a light to be installed. They literally pull out with their
lights and siren on and have to wait for the people on Blandon to go by before they can get out of the fire station. That's a matter of life and death. As a paramedic, I know five minutes, 10 minutes is a matter of life and death.
We need to get pra proper traffic signals up. Florida was given 116.5 billion dollar to take care of all of these highway issues all over the state of Florida. And currently, Pasco County
stands at 67 fatalities and 6,000 accidents and 5700 injuries from those accidents. Something needs to be done. And it's not it isn't going to be more roads being built. It's going to be adequate signs, lights
where the light the intersections are already dangerous. >> Thank you, ma'am. Was there anybody else? >> That's all I got. >> Okay. Anybody from the audience or the public wish to speak?
>> Please state your name and address for the record. >> Uh Shelby Gells, 25219 Dan Brown Hill Road, uh Brooksville. I just wanted to add my name to the Ayers Road extension list. Um, we live I mean we would be greatly impacted by two of these routes.
One would go through our backyard and one would go through our front yard. Uh, we live on a blind corner that regularly sees single car accidents sometimes ending up in our yard. Um, I'm a nervous public speaker. Uh, one of the routes would go right across our
lake which is um, you know, it's studied as an agricultural and uh, ecological area wetland that we have bald eagles nesting there. there's our natural aquifer and our water table um would be affected by it.
Yeah, I think she said it a lot more eloquently than I could, but I just wanted to put my name on there, too. So, thank you. >> All right, thank you. Anyone else like to speak? >> All right, we're going to go ahead and
close close that out. uh move on to our MPO advisory committee reports. Um citizens advisory committee, Angelia, and then looks like you got it all. >> I do. Thank you so much. Good morning, Angela with the Pasco County MO. The uh
citizens advisory committee met on Wednesday, november 5th with a quorum. The committee voted to approve five items, all of them on the agenda, including the October meeting minutes, the Pasco MPO board and committee schedule, two amendments to the unified planning work program, and an amendment
to the Pasco MO fiscal year 26 to30 tip. The committee also heard several presentations including the introduction of the transportation resiliency plan, the FDOT district 7 tenative work program, Florida Turnpike Enterprise work program, Paso County land
development code bicycle pedestrian standards update, as well as an overview of two fiscal year 26 to 30 tip modifications. Excuse me. The CSE also received an update on several topics discussed at a previous committee round table um and
subsequently recommended that the MO board request that FDOT conduct an evaluation for possible safety improvements or speed reduction on US19 north of New York Avenue and south of the county line due to concerns regarding the high number of non-conforming driveways and an elevated
crash rate on this segment. That concludes my update for the CAC. Anybody have any questions on CDC? >> All right, we'll go ahead and move on to the technical advisory committee. >> Um, the MO TAC met on Wednesday,
November 5th, also had a quorum and voted to approve all of the same items as the CAC, um, and received the same presentations. In addition, the TAC voted to approve Mr. Chris Hanning as a new member of the committee as a representative for the Paso County Department of Public Works.
And then for feedback, if you don't have any >> any questions, >> comments or questions, um the Pasco County Bicycle Pedestrian Advisory Committee met on Wednesday, November 5th, also had a quorum and voted to approve all the same items as uh the CAC and and TAC. Um and received the same
presentations. Um one thing to note is that a BPAC member, uh Mr. James Higgins, resigned from the committee due to scheduling conflicts. And that concludes my committee updates. Any questions? Commissioner. >> Um, did Allison Croley come? >> No, ma'am.
>> Okay. I have someone else who wants to come on. Okay. >> So, I'm just texting Alison to say, you know, she didn't attend one meeting. Um, her name is Katrina Maidwell. >> Katrina Maywell. >> Do you know her? >> No. >> She's a realtor and um, she wants to get
involved. She has a talk show. >> Um, can we I'll get you her email address and then we She needs to see the schedule. >> Yes, ma'am. and then see if um she can uh join. >> All right. Lovely. Thank you so much. >> Trying to keep a woman on there.
>> Yes, ma'am. >> Any other questions? >> All right. Thank you so much. >> Thank you very much. >> All right. Okay. We're going to move on to our action items. Uh first up is the annual membership appointments by the no board. Mr. Torn. Oh, there you go.
>> Popped up here really quickly. Good morning board. I am here to discuss the annual u membership of the appointment of our Pasco NPO board to our several key committees that are underneath the NO. We have the Sun Coast Transportation
Planning Alliance. We have the MO advisory council. We have the Transportation Management Group and then we also have the Pasco Trans County Transportation Disadvantaged Local Coordinating Board. Currently, we have
on the SCTBA, we have uh the chairperson, Councilman Matt Murphy. We also have uh currently Commissioner Wakeman as the alternate. And then on the TMA, we have Commissioner Katherine Starky,
Commissioner Jack Mariano, and then Councilman Matt Murphy as the alternate. Also for the MOAC, we currently have our chair, Comm Councilman Matt Murphy, and our vice chair, um, Mayor Mayor
Black, Scott Black. And, um, and then for the Transportation Disadvantage Local Coordinating Board, we have Commissioner Joerger. Those are our current appointments. If you would like for the current appointments to stay the same, we can do that. or we can vote alternate uh members to represent these
subcommittees underneath the MO. >> Anyone like to change anything? >> I'm fine to stay on. >> I'm fine. >> Mr. Chair, I move that we reappoint the current members to serve the year. We don't have
to wait. All right, he's back. >> Sorry, >> we're uh voting on the membership appointments for the board. >> TMA, Mr. >> Chair, I'll I'll resubmit my motion that we reappoint the current members to
serve on these four boards. >> Second. >> Second. >> All right. All in favor? >> I >> I All right. Thank you. >> Uh, next up we have the Pasco MO board and committee's 2026 meeting schedule.
>> All right. Thank you. On an annual basis, uh, we came to you prior last month with a draft MO schedule. However, due to some conflicts with the board of county commissioner meetings, we had to adjust the schedule for May and August.
I'm sorry, May and June. My apologies. So now the meetings for May is on 8:21. If you look on your schedule, the board meeting and then for the June meeting it's on 8 um June meeting is on 611.
Those are the two updated uh meeting dates. And at this time, we'd like for you to review and approve those minor changes so that we can make this draft the final schedule for the 2026 board and committees. Well, I had my eyes fixed, but that's
that's still hard for me to do. I'll take it. Oh, >> I think we made one change, right? You guys had a >> conflict on one of the dates, >> correct? It was May
>> May is on 521 and June is on 611. >> Yes. and June is because of the BOCC workshop that >> Oh, wait, wait. Yeah. 521. Yeah. I'll be out of the country for the
January meeting. Um, >> okay. >> Everything else look good to everybody. >> I mean, it's not going to fit maybe perfectly with everybody. Anyway, things change, so move approval. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I.
>> All opposed. Thank you. Yeah. I don't know what I'm doing next week. Never mind a year out. >> All right. Next up, we have the uh unified planning work program amendment. >> Uh we have the unified planning work
program amendment for fiscal 2526. Staff is proposing three amendments uh to the unified planning work program to reflect updated funding allocations and improve how existing resources are used. The first amendment will be to the federal planning funds. these funds will
align with the new allocation. The second amendment will reallocate existing funds within the lines of our budget. So that way we can do um different uh planning and programming plan planning and programming such as
the active transportation plan and some other plans that we have coming down the the line. And then the third amendment is state planning funds. uh this is with our CTD as we enter into our transportation disadvantaged uh local coordinating funds. So with that being
said, I ask you to review and approve the UPW P amendment for fiscal year 2526. >> Okay. Do we have to do each one of these separately or >> Nope. It's one I put it all in one. So you just have to review and approve the actual item. >> Okay. >> Motion to approve.
>> Second. >> All in favor? >> I opposed. Thank you. Um, so we're skipping six then. Seven, evaluation of the Davis Bacon Act. >> Oh, yeah.
>> I have a presentation. >> Yeah. >> Oh, are you putting it? >> So, is six a different item or >> is it? No. >> Did you do the agreement? >> The agreement.
>> The same planning agreement. So did we do the amendment? Let's do the agreement. >> We have to do the agreement. >> Okay. >> Amendment agreement. Sorry. >> Yes. Thank you. So we have the unified planning work agreement. So due to the amendment, it triggers an agreement
coming from DOT to update our budgetary ceiling and currently our ceiling is $3,390 and $970. moving to 3 mill I'm sorry 3,3,900,970. Our new budgetary ceiling is now
3,431,176. I'm asking to review and approve this current amendment. >> Move approval. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I I opposed. Thank you. All right. Now we're on to the Davis Bacon Act compliance.
Okay. So, today's item provides a summary of the NPO's review of the Davis Bacon Act compliance impacts on transportation project delivery. This discussion is followed from the directive uh from the October board meeting to evaluate whether the federal compliance
requirements are contributing to project delays or increased costs. The goal was to strike a balance between two important principles, maintaining fair and competitive wages and ensuring fiscal responsibility and timely delivery of infrastructure projects. Our
objective wasn't to challenge the fair wage standards, but to examine whether administrative procedures under the act are creating inefficiencies. I would like to thank um David Goldstein and his team for helping with the research for uh this letter to be
created. Um and with that, we found some key findings from the national study. The Government Accountability Office and other resources identified project delays at multiple levels of government due to due to compliance bottlenecks.
Um, some programs such as weatherization initiatives were delayed by up to two months while waiting for county specific wage determinations. A 2023 study estimated that 8.9% to 14.3%
increase in roadway constructions cost tied to prevailing wage requirements. Additionally, other sectors show similar trends. For example, California's affordable housing projects reflected about a 6% increase in delays. Lastly,
interesting I Ohio case study found variance by region suggesting DBA impacts are not uh uniform nationwide. On this slide, we look at the wage determination concerns. Studies also highlight inconsistencies and sampling
limitation in how wages are determined. These issues may lead to artificially inflated wage rates, especially in smaller or rur rural markets. The intent here is not to assign blame, but to call for a modernization of the data
collection process at the federal level. Currently our local due diligence um the county staff works with um Pasco County purchasing transportation engineering department and project managers while using a con consultant to ensure compliance reviewing invoices and
performing random audits. This ensures in our process but it also adds an administrative layer that consumes both time staffs and resources to make sure that we're following the Davis Bacon wage act. Local
cost findings for our two most recent lab projects. DBA compliance counts costs accounted for about 1 1.5% to 1.8% of the total construction budget. While that percentage seems small as of right
now, over time that will escalate uh as reporting, auditing and documentation demands grow. These administrative burdens can also create schedule delays particularly when federal reviews take longer than anticipated. So the no requests at this time based on
these findings staff recommends transmitting a formal request to Congressman Billis. The request for a targeted federal review to examine the timeliness of wage determination, the cost impacts of local projects and the administrative burdens associated with
the compliance. Our goal is to improve efficiency, cost control, and project delivery while continuing to upload uphold fair labor standards. In summary, the NO is committed to maintaining high quality infra infrastructure and fair wages, but also
must safeguard against taxpayer resources. Collaboration between local, state, and federal partners is critical to achieving both. And we appreciate uh the working with Congressman Gus Arachus for continued support and participation in seeking practical datadriven
solutions. >> Any questions? >> Mer. >> Um so on your pricing here is that when the county acts as the contractor? >> Correct. >> What about when uh we have a contract
with another contractor? I would have to defer to maybe David or >> David's over here. >> Our experience at Amskills with the Davis Bacon was a lot more than 1.4%
price and time, you know, it was it was a lot more. So, I'm just curious. >> So, we don't we didn't interview anybody that was doing a contract with another contractor. We just interviewed our own folks, but it probably would be closer to some of the higher numbers that
Tineia cited earlier that were I think you had >> 15% >> 15%. >> Some of the higher percentages that she cited earlier because those were nation nationwide percentages that she cited earlier. >> Well, I'm I'm 100% I'm 100% supportive
of sending something to Congressman Billis. I would be interested if there was a way, David, we just focused on road construction of sidewalks here, right? Um are there any other construction projects in the county?
um say not roads that use federal money that we can also site as an example or >> well the studies also site to affordable housing that was also had if you look at the letters there was an increase in affordable housing costs associated with Davis Bacon compliance
>> you have the California study >> yes um I forgot what the Ohio one was >> the Ohio study >> regional disparities >> I forgot what the infrastructure Interesting. In the southern part of Ohio, it costs a lot more than the
northern part of Ohio. >> Right. But I forgot what the infrastructure I had to go back and look at the study to see what it was funding. But um but it was it was a range of infrastructure that they looked at. >> And the in the top Bolton, four federal,
10 state, and three local agencies reported project delays attributed to DVA. >> Right. And those were various agencies that weren't necessarily roadways. Yeah. >> Is that within our county? >> No, these are these are these are these
are national agencies. >> I'm not sure that one >> the only one that was our county specific was the data that Jia talked about that >> that was the 1.6% that that was the only one that was our county specific.
>> The rest of those were nationwide studies. >> Mr. Chairman, >> Commissioner. So, I'd I'd like to see us um reach out to Steps to Recovery. Um they had some delays. They had some extra costs thrown in trying to get
their building built. It's still dealing with a affordable housing and veterans. Um by the way, this this letter is excellent. I think for the NO, it's perfect, but I think for the board of county commission, I like to bring one as well with the same information, but I think if you can add in the steps to recovery, you mean it's a veterans
program for housing as well. Uh I know >> because they have CDBG grants and those that's exactly >> they've had the Paul Davis Bacon and the costs have driven up and the things that happened through the whole process uh cost them a lot of money. We had to actually give them more money from opioids to kind of make sure they could make it from the contingencies that
weren't there. So if you could reach out like John Moody is on the engineer. He can actually probably give you the specifics and we can get that letter combined together. Um I made plans to actually go up to DC in in January. So, I'm going to try to take this letter as the NPO provided it gets approved and
I'll try to get one from the get one from the board as well and bring both of them up there and with that trans folks. >> Let me coordinate with the county administrator on the county one. >> Sure. >> Um, but if we can is this one okay to send? >> Yep. This one's great. >> Okay. >> All right. Okay.
>> Thank you very much. Great work. >> Thank you. >> More than a letter. It's even backward information, backup information, which is phenomenal. So, I'm >> Well, like I said, I had a great help from David, so couldn't do it by myself. Second. Awesome. All in favor? I
>> I >> All right. >> Okay. All right. TSMO letter of support. So, the Pasco MPO is fully expressing its support for Metrop Plan Orlando's transportation system management and
operations program. Um, this follows up from the MO board's approval of support letter on August 12th, 2021. The letter affirms Pasco County's commitment to regional collaboration across Central Florida. In regional collaboration, the letter
highlights the partnerships among seven regional planning organizations. Metrop Plan Orlando, Ford Penllis, Hillsboro MO, World TPO, now pulp TPO, Sarasota Manity MPO, Space Coast TPO, and River to CMO. Collectively, these agencies are
developing a regional transportation systems management operations program. This focus is coordination, efficiency, and shared innovation across jurisdictions. I'm sure I'm going to do a little refresher on what TISMO is. So, TISMO uses technology and operational
strategies to maximize the performance of existing transportation systems without necessarily adding new capacity. Key applications include work zone uh incident and special event management, transit operations coordination, traffic
signal synchronization, integrated corridor management. And these strategies promote safety, reliability, and cost-effective mobility improvements. And also this letter includes the support for innovation. The letter acknowledges TISMO's role in
preparing for emergency tech emerging technologies and such connected autonomous vehicles which if you guys have seen the Whimo uh or you've driven in the Whimo uh it's like riding a ghost ghost car. Uh the steering wheels moving. It's usually you see them out
west. I think maybe city of Tampa has a pilot program. It is if you have an opportunity I think you should ride in it. It is very interesting. I I did take a video of myself riding in one. Um but that is this that is the future. Commitment and autonomy. Each participating NO TPO retains full
autonomy over its own TISMO activities. Participation in the regional program does not imply financial commitment. the emphasis on collaboration and coordination, not shared funding. Um, and alignment with the statutes that that align with section 339.175
Florida statute, which requires MTPOS's coordinate to enhance statewide transportation. This demonstrates the regional TISMO initiative is both strategically and statutoily supported. So, in closing, the Pascompio commends the metro plan. They are the leaders in
our uh Florida region for pushing forward. Um as we all went to go visit them uh last or last week. You see they're very forward thinking there. They have a lot of citizens within the uh Orlando region and they move them
around the best they can. They still have work to do, but they are forward thinking on how to move people, not cars. and the NPO expresses appreciation for their continued collaboration in advancing mobility and and environmental protection and economic strength across Florida.
And I would ask the board to review and approve the letter of support for TISMO. >> Yeah, I support that >> question. Mr. Chair, in that video of yourself, were you like this the whole time? >> At some points, I was just hoping to go
through a Chick-fil-A drive-thru, right? We've seen the videos where it got stuck. Uh, but it was scary when it had to make a U-turn because you're depending on the sensors to see if there's oncoming traffic. So, but yes, it is very interesting, but they cannot go on highways. So,
>> Mr. Chair, move approval of the letter. >> Second. >> All in favor? I >> I >> All right. Thank you. FY 2026 2030 transportation improvement program. >> Thank you very much. Um the Pasco, excuse me, the Florida Department of
Transportation or FDOT requests approval of a proposed amendment to the Pasco County MO fiscal year 26 to30 transportation improvement program or TIP. The purpose of the amendment is to add funding for the extension of an existing TIP project at the request of
Pasco County. Specifically, FDOT proposes to expand the previous project boundaries which included the construction of a sidewalk on the north side of Branch Road from Martha Avenue to Hanks Lane um covering approximately 651 miles. The
proposed tip amendment will extend the project limits to include Ranch Road from US19 to Ponderosa Avenue totaling approximately 1.178 miles. This adjustment reflects an increase of $281,212
in local funds um for construction, bringing the construction funding total to $928,67. We also have um a photo here. This is the amendment and the clicker is not and this is a map
of the project. Um the Pasco MPO request a vote to approve. >> Mr. Chairman, >> commissioner, >> this is an ultimate way to connect two busy roads that'll connect two neighborhoods as well as 0 to 19. So I
fully support it. Move approval. >> Thank you very much. >> Second. >> Second. >> All right. All in favor? I >> opposed. >> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Awesome. >> All right. Go Pasco updates.
>> Are there any? >> Okay. >> We do. >> Okay. All right. So, we can move on to status reports and presentations. We got the tip modification fiscal year 25-26.
>> So the tip modification for fiscal 2526 is actually in uh concurrence with the amendment that was discussed earlier and the agreement to raise the budgetary ceiling uh within our planning funds and those funds are reflected in our
planning uh area in our transportation improvement program. So this is just a modification noting that the funds have been uh the budgetary ceiling has been moved. So it's just anformational item but we have to make note of it because we are updating her documents and it is
provided in our public participation plan to notify the board whenever there is a budgetary um ceiling increase or decrease despite it being amendment or modification. >> Okay. Um, what number are you on?
>> Questions on >> 10. >> Number 10. >> Did Did I hear you say decrease though? >> No, no, increase. >> Okay. I thought I say decrease. I'm like, wait a minute. I'm looking like Okay. >> Uh, no questions on that one. >> Is that an action item?
>> No. >> All right. Move on number 11, the FY 2026 to 30 tip modification project. Thank you. And this is also anformational item. Um, in October, a TIP amendment was approved by the MO board to allocate funding for an
interstate interchange improvement project that was not previously included in the fiscal year 26 through30 tip. Since the approval, the project funding has been updated to incorporate an additional $155,774 in design funds and $158,265
in construction funds in fiscal year 26. These funds will support widening and resurfacing of the existing southbound I75 off-ramp travel lanes and shoulders to create dual turn dual left turn lanes from southbound I75 to eastbound CR54.
In addition, in total, the updated funding totals now reflect $290,923 for design and 1,603,201 for construction. And Stephanie, can you
>> Oh, just kidding. Um, so this is the original that was approved by you guys in October. And then this is the the updated with the updated totals. And then I also just included the the same project map as last time.
>> Well, actually my question is not this intersection. So, um I I know this is needed about the question on another intersection. So, I'm okay on this one. >> Yeah. And I'm sure anyone else had called in on it, but I was driving along at one time and I will say 6 8 months ago, whatever it was, and I put up a
question that we need to get this thing fixed. I actually drove down at Monday. Uh it was around 9:00. Actually, no, it was about 7:45. Driving down through it from the intersection of 54 all the way up the ramp all the way to the exit where you start turning, it was backed
up. So, this is very well, very much needed and this will dramatically help cuz most people were going left there. So, thank you very much for moving this thing forward. Greatly appreciated. >> That's information. Yes. >> Yeah. Any other questions? All right.
Good. Okay. doesn't make any sense. >> Uh move on to 12. The NO transportation resil resiliency plan. >> Thank you. Uh the Pasco County MO is collaborating with Vulker, Inc. to develop a transportation resilience
improvement plan or RIP to address natural and man-made roadway vulnerabilities and expand on the existing efforts of resilient Pasco. Today, Ned Byer from Bulk, Inc. will be providing an introductory presentation on the Pasco NPO transportation resiliency plan. I'm going to let them
take it away. >> Good morning. >> Ned Byer with Vulker. I'm director of planning for the Southeast region. >> Um, thank you for your time. Um, I'll be back two more times. We began our work
in September. We're going to finish up in June. So that's a pretty quick schedule for a planning study like this. So we will be back. We met with your committees last week. I'm going to speak to that more later. So let me start with
um the resilient resiliency improvement plan. So it was only a year ago as we all know. We went through pretty dramatic um tropical storms. Uh we had a double whammy of two storms within a month. One was a heavy rain maker with
over 20 inches of rain. And then one had um a lot of wind and did a lot of um u flooding especially along the coastal area. And as you all know, Pasco County is one of those counties where you do have the coastal area as well as a lot
of conservation lands with rivers and lakes. And so there was in places some extreme amount of flooding uh especially on on your roadway system. So here we are today, a year later. And you know, one thing I want to emphasis
in what we're doing. Uh well, a couple things. First, this is our team. Um I'm the project manager. Angel's the project manager uh with the no. Tana is involved. uh your public information officer is involved because we have a
lot of public involvement, stakeholder engagement, that sort of thing. And then our our team besides planners and transportation planners, we do have a structural uh engineer, we have a hydraulics engineer. We we have some people that are
kind of experts in in roadway construction and and that sort of thing. And so that's going to become handy when we start identifying improvements and projects and and let me get to that. But um so the the resiliency improvement
plan um is an effort to build on resilient Pasco. So we're not trying to duplicate uh what you've been through with Resilient Pasco, which was a lot of good work over a couple years. Uh we've met
with the project team. Uh they're very supportive of this project. They had some good ideas for us to uh to follow up with and we're going to use a lot of that data and in and information that was already collected from the resilient Pasco project. The other thing I
mentioned, the Department of Transportation has a resiliency action plan which includes Pasco County. It's a little higher level analysis, but there are specific recommendations and projects for the transportation
system that we will also be uh coordinating aligning into our plan. So, those are like the two guiding documents. And there's many others, the LRTP update that you just went through, the Pasco County strategic plan, and a
whole lot of other documents that we will make sure that we consider as we build our data collection because one of the things we're doing is it's a lot of technical data and GIS mapping in this project. We're building
something called a vulnerable assessment. There's a critical criticality index tool. We have 16 criteria. We're going to be actually uh analyzing nearly 2,000 miles of roadways in the
county by segment. And so there'll be a lot of technical analysis. will actually be scoring the performance of roadways in terms of vulnerabilities. And a vulnerability could be flooding,
it could be fires, it could be sinkholes, um storm surge. So, it's weather events, but it's also things like cy cyber security and those attacks on a local government or in this case a county uh
computer computerized traffic signal pro program. So, there's a lot of different vulnerabilities to the transportation network, but our focus is the transportation network. The other thing I'll mention, we we formed a steering committee. We'll
have nearly every county department involved in some way. You know, you think of public works and um your management services and and others and also the municipal governments. Uh we want them at the table as well for the
steering committee um as well as agencies like the department of transportation. Uh so that's kind of a summary of what we're doing and I mentioned uh we think of uh coastal flooding especially hurricanes storm events but we're also looking at things
like wildfires sinkholes other things and then again I'll make the point that we want to identify a plan that has you know implementable projects in the short term so that was asked by a couple of the committees last week the citizens
technical committee they said you know like Sounds okay, but you know, are you going to drill down to get specific about projects? And yes, we are. We we hope to with your team create more or less like a five-year action plan, almost like a five-year capital
improvement program. We really would like to get that specific and make recommendations for your consideration for Pasco County's consideration and the other municipal governments. And then we're also going to identify
midterm and long-term projects. So this is um I just want to mention especially task five is that vulnerability assessment and that tool that we're creating that will actually analyze all
the roadway segments uh nearly 2,000 miles of roadways uh centerline miles in Pasco County. And then task six, the implementation plan. That's going to be really important to match dollars available with projects. And then there
could be some programs or policy recommendations as well. And then one of the things we want to do also is pull out any of the recommendations from resilient Pasco or from the the DOT uh
strategic resiliency action plan. So, I mentioned we're working with your uh Pasco County uh public information officer. We've met already. Uh we've had many discussions about branding, about uh we have three
public workshops planned uh beginning in February. I already mentioned we have a steering committee that we'll be working with. Uh there'll be a number of uh posts on social media and the website. So we have to make sure
we follow Pasco County's protocol for consumption of uh information and also make that ADA accessible. Everything that we do from social media postings to documents to presentations, there's
pretty strict rules as you know for ADA compliance and those have been upgraded um this year that we're responding to. And then I already mentioned about the vulnerability assessment. That's like the technical analysis that we're uh
doing. And it's a it's a real exercise in uh and you've seen this in some of your plan development and GIS mapping capabilities. It's pretty amazing how uh these technical experts really drill down and are able to over with map
overlays to really assess uh in this case the roadway system. And then I mentioned uh the project list and then we have a series of reports and we hope to bring the reports back to
you this spring with adoption by this board uh in May June uh probably come in May and then come back again in June for your consideration. I already mentioned too that we are looking at other plans like resilient
Pasco, like the DOT resilient action plan that do have impacts on Pasco County. We're kind of taking a step forward, you know, u forward by focusing on transportation. Um
I already talked about the vulnerability assessment, the tool. And the other thing about this tool, when our work is done, we turn this over to the staff. So, it's going to be a good tool for the Pasco County staff in the future as you
have plan amendments to your LRTP or you update your long range plan or anything like that. So, it'll the tool will be yours to use. I think I'm going the wrong way here. Um, let's see. I already talked about well, this is important. the the
branding uh of the project. Uh the road to resiliency. >> Great logo. >> Pasco County. Thank you. It wasn't me. We've got some good people on the >> sioraphic person in the front. >> Yeah, it is. It is a good logo with the colors and then it signifies there is roadway in there, but there it also
looks like water, right? And so, yeah, it is good. >> Nice. >> Um and then here's a schedule. Uh as mentioned before uh we hope to be done by June. Um that's a lot of work to do in a pretty short time frame. A lot of
heavy lifting is in the next four or five months. The public workshops will be in February. Uh we have our first steering committee meeting which will be in December. Um and then we hope to start the social media campaign. We're going to have a community survey on
social media that should be starting up very soon. Um, and that's uh >> you don't have any date for task eight. Did you notice that? >> Task eight. >> Task eight. >> Yeah. Go back.
>> Okay. Sure. >> Draft and final report. >> It's good to be flexible, right? But >> no, >> it's a never ending contract. So, thank you for pointing that out. So, if you if you look real close there,
it's I think it's February and March. We were kind of beginning, but we should have had a >> probably that little man in June. >> We missed a little man there. So, um down one low. >> Yeah, maybe he's supposed to be down one. >> There you go.
>> That's just a guess. I just guessed. So, I wanted to mention also because the the committees um had some really good recommendations for us to to follow up in in the reports. I don't know if they're still here. One of the committee members said we need to coordinate with
the Tampa Bay Regional Planning Council. Uh which uh that was good because it was kind of an oversight on our part. It's really important because one of the things we've learned is that the regional planning council has done like a a review of the the post hurricane
efforts I guess in all the counties. So that's going to be really good information for us, you know, what are the impacts >> uh on what were the impacts, what were the specific roads that were flooded and you know things like that. So that's a that's that's a really good contact for
us. the regional planning council. Um they also have done some work um identifying some data for extreme rainfall flooding hazards um which we will undoubtedly use in our evaluation. And then the other
recommendation I thought really was good about um involving the homeowner association groups in some way either through information uh you know invitations to our public workshops of
course but we also have a number of um interviews stakeholder interviews we're calling them. So if there's some key groups or organizations and I'm sure you all have know know many of those uh please let staff know let me
know and we will uh we can have a you know one- on-one meeting or a small group presentation. Sometimes going to their meetings is the best way to do that right not everybody loves to go to a public uh workshop. So yeah let us know. So those are just two things I
wanted to point out. And so with that, >> I'm really ready for your your questions. >> Commissioner Mariel, >> thank you. Um, so part of this resiliency plan, are you trying to look at things you can make better that are affected by transportation as well as
just transportation that's uh roads that that are being affected? I >> I think both things can happen with some of these improvements. So my understanding is like roadway surfaces
uh for especially flooding there there's different treatments and that you can do to roadway surfaces and and that's probably more lowhanging fruit that that's something that working with your public works team and understanding what they do some of the I'm I'm not really
looking for that angle. So let me let me let me stop here. What what I'm I'm going to tell you about a three four different things that I think that okay are affected by transportation facilities that are built that are affecting flooding in the areas that affect resiliency that uh I I know have
been looked at a little bit so you'll have some information to work with but I think it's something to go further. >> Um first one comes to mind up in Hudson area u there's a spot that we actually have on one of our storm water plans to look at where they're looking at a place called Wildwood. Um, it's a trailer park
that's right next to US19. Right across the way, there's a canal that connects out to Hudson, working its way out right to the Gulf of America. And DOT's looked at it with us, met with us, with the residents, with our own team. Uh, we didn't get cooperation from the um uh
association that owns the property. But as far as what we needed for like say for treat treating the water at this point but that may change but we need to increase the water that can go out under US19 going through and DOT says that they can get that done. >> Okay.
>> And I think that's something that if you guys would have that in your report to say this is something that should get looked at and and possibly go forward. I think numbers are already crafted so it should be easy to put into your report. Got it. >> I think it'd be beneficial. Um going
down further, we have just spent a whole bunch of money uh from the city of Port Richie right on over the northern outfall that project with swift mud. So the northern outfall project is great. We just finished it. It looks great too right by Warner Boyce across the way.
Spring raft. Uh looks great. It's going to increase the water flow. However, there's a southern outfall and this comes all the way from Magnolia Valley. swing it all the way up and out out to 19. And it goes by the Honda dealership and it cuts across where there's a giant
storm water pond that for years has been silted in. During Hurricane Michael, the county stepped in right before the storm hit and actually took out like eight dumpload trucks of dirt out of that. But that's just from a truck from the edge of the road scooping the stuff out.
>> And actually during that storm, it helped quite a bit. the at the time the council in Port Richie said that they didn't flood out as bad especially in the mobile park but down below. So that's an opportunity to think for resiliency to say okay the runoff coming from 19 going into this thing for 60
years has caused silt sediment build up so the water stays behind longer instead and get out quicker. And let's face it when the storm waters storm surges come in you can't stop it. Yeah, >> but if the water can get out quicker, you can minimize damage and let let people's lives get back together.
>> So, if I could ask, >> so one of those outfall programs is outfall southern outfall storm water has got it. They looked at it, they studied with swift mud, there wasn't quite enough benefit, they said, >> but I think if it's gets looked at and we get cooperation with FDOT to say
they'll work with us to get it done uh in SwiftMUD, maybe those numbers can work better. >> Okay. Okay. >> With that participation, >> that's >> but those those are a couple of things that I think if you can put in your report would be very helpful for for down the road. >> That's great.
>> Um I have a couple of questions. Um uh but one area that comes to mind uh for me is Little Road goes underwater in a big storm event and it's a hurricane evacuation route Pelosis County. Um so
uh definitely want you to see what we can do there. >> Yeah. >> Um >> and then I was curious where uh in your in your report you talked about extreme heat. So do you also look at our multimodal
trans you trail system and in my mind when I think of extreme heat I'm thinking we need to shade those >> and I we have so many trails that don't have any shade on it and it's very uncomfortable for people to use. >> Mr. Chairman I object after two after two days ago we were at
30°. I object >> I and I am loving this weather. Absolutely loving this one. Um, but I just wonder is that so you know is that what you mean by that or what do you mean by >> Yeah, because so we mentioned the trails plan in the the plans review and we look
at opportunities. We look at if there's projects identified, but you're you're talking about like the quality that the experience for people using the trail. But yeah, shade is a >> yeah, >> makes a lot of sense. Tree planting programs shade on walkable places. that
could be a project and that could be like lowhanging fruit. It's not as expensive as some of the other longer term type of projects. >> And um what are some what would you say are some of the best examples you've seen when you've done work like this and
a project was instigated? What are you familiar with? Some that you would say >> were the that bring you the most pride? Well, in in Fort Lauderdale, which you know is real it's a coastal community,
they're they're raising the the the flood walls by several feet because they're having flooding, not just tropical storms, but just tide events, high tide events. >> So, I mean, that was pretty smart,
right? And uh making making a real difference. Um, we actually did this for the Department of Transportation in Mississippi, but we did like the entire state. It's so it's a little bit different, but they are using it and
they are focusing on their evacuation routes where they're when they when they do have improvements, they're they're elevating the roadway system. You know, the roadways grade by 2, three, four feet in some instances. I
know our firm had a project in the panhandle along the coast for district three um doing the same thing. They're raising the the profile of the road and the trail that's next to it. I mean, those are a couple of examples that we've been involved with.
>> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Any other questions? >> Just one more thought. >> Yes. I I would love for you to talk about the um the seaw wall raising as well. That's something we've talked about with regional planning council as far as something good for long term. So,
if you want to talk about the success or the ideas why they're doing Lauderdale uh and how that can be applied here, that would be great. >> Sure. >> Thank you. >> Sure. Thank you. >> All right. Well, thank you for your comments and uh we'll be back. So, >> all right. Thank you.
Next up, district 7 ft ten of work program 2731 to Brian Hunter. >> Good morning everybody. Brian Hunter with the Florida Department of Transportation.
Morning. And while we wait, I'll just today I'm just going to give a brief overview of the tenative work program for 27 to 31. I'll start with just quickly what the work program is, uh how we develop those
projects that go into it, and then I'll give an update on the projects that we have added or made some sort of change to. So, I know most of you all already know this, but the department works on a five-year budget cycle. So we have a 5-year tenant or 10 five-year work
program. So currently we are in year 26 through 30 is the uh work program we're in and that was adopted last year started on July 1st. But every July 1st we start a new 5-year work program and so that first year goes away. Year two
becomes near year number one and we need to add a new fifth year that we need to fill with projects. So that's what we're in the process of doing. We've been working with the no staff the last couple of months. We took um some documents that you guys create and we've been filling in that gap. And so what
I'm going to present on today is the tenative work program that will outline the changes to the work program and any new projects that are added. And then we take that, we submit it to the legislature and the Florida Transportation Commission. If they approve it, they send it along to the
governor. Hopefully he signs it and July 1st we all get to go out and do what we said we would do. And so how we do our funding strategy on how we program these projects. One that's not on here that but is the most important is preserving our existing system. So we want to
maintain what we have today. So if we need to resurface roads, re maintain bridges, that kind of thing, we do that first. Then we preserve the existing program. So that means if we had a schedule change on a project or cost estimate, we accommodate those changes. Then we fund the next phase of a
project. So if we had done planning and design and now we need to move to fund right ofway we fund that phase or maybe it's construction and then third we add those or fourth we add those new projects and we get those projects from a variety
of places the one of the key ones is the list of priority projects that you guys approve in the the spring summer time frames that comes to us we look at that we also have the regional priorities we get from the Sun Coast Transportation Planning Alliance and then we have the department's priorities
Now, this presentation I'm only going to show new projects that were added, new phases that were added, a whether we if we had to defer or advance a project or u a regional project of interest. If you've been tracking a project, something you've been excited to see
happen and I don't present on it here, but we've presented on it in previous presentations, don't worry about it. It's just moving. It's still moving forward. We just haven't had a significant cost or schedule change associated with that project. And we do have, you can go and see a list of every single uh project in the entire state.
If you Google FDOT work program, it'll bring up the website. You can go to that one right there on the bottom, but Google, it's just as easy. And then you can drill down to districts, counties, and cities. So, going into the projects, the first ones we have are planning projects. So,
the first one is the planning funds that supports the work that the MO does. And if you notice above the word metropolitan, it's got the Pasco County MO logo with MO priority next to it. That means it's something we pulled directly from your trans your list of
priority projects and were able to fund. The second planning project is US19 from Phoenix Drive, which is basically Penelis County line all the way up to State Road 52. So that one will be looking at um multimodal improvements, pedestrian safety, bicycle safety,
operational improvements that those funds were added in 31. So what we'll do is about a year before when we start working on the scope, we'll come back to you all at the cities, counties, uh and staff as well and get some ideas on things we should incorporate into that. It's five years away right now. So, we
don't want to make too many uh nail down those definitions of what we're going to be looking at too soon, but we will be looking at those things that I mentioned. >> Where where is Phoenix Drive? I don't >> That is Penelis County Line basically. >> Oh, okay. >> So, yeah, it's like >> that was one or two 50t north of the Penelis County line. >> That tool place.
>> Yeah, >> just there. Okay. Wasn't showing up on my map. >> And then we have three transit projects in Pasco County that we're going to that are in the new fifth year. of 31 or one is in 31. That's the bus replacements.
Um the next one is the transit corridor program for state road 54 for route 54. Now this is a uh competitive grant process or grant program for the transit agencies. They submit these to us. We review them and so we really commend Pasco County Transit and Janina and her
team for putting together a great corridor that does regional connectivity. That's the the purpose of this project. So they have two regional connectivities in addition to connecting all the way across the county. They connect to um Penllis County Transit as well as Hart. And so this is a a
fantastic route and we're happy to be able to participate with them on that. We also have some funding in 27 for a US9 multimodal transfer center. >> Nice. >> We have so State Road 52. We previously
talked about that. We had to originally it was one long project from 41 to Aaron Cutoff or 41 to Bellamy Brothers. We had to break it into two pieces previously because the costs continue to increase. Uh we've all seen that over the last couple years and that's continued and so
now we've had to break it into three pieces. So starting from the east we go from Aaron Cutoff to Melamy Brothers and so that project is going to be let in June of 2027. The next one is from 52 to Secretariat
or 52 from Secretariat to Aaron Cutoff. That one will be let in June of 2027 as well. And the remaining piece from Secretariat over to 41. That project is now a $41 million project that we don't have construction funding for. So we're
we're holding back on that piece. We are very hopeful that when we get to let these two other projects in 27 that we'll get some bid savings from the just the sheer length of that project. We're hopeful to get some bid savings on that those projects and some other ones that
we have coming up and we'll apply those funds to the uh that third that little missing piece in between 41 and secretariat. But as of right now we do not have that piece funded. >> Mr. Chairman, >> Commissioner, >> could you do us a favor and try to
calculate if you didn't have the Davis Bacon Act, what would the cost, how much would the cost go down? >> Are you using federal money for this? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Company. >> I will look and see. I that is not something that I deal with and so I
don't know if we we have a way to calculate that, but I'm sure >> we can definitely ask and I'll I'll get back to you. >> Thank you. We have a couple other capacity projects that have >> we'll we'll be at like 800,000 people in
our county and not have a multi-lane the only multi-lane road going across it will be 54. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean it's definitely a priority for us. It's just a a budget reality that we have that we had to to shave off a little bit.
County Line Road from East Mariner Boulevard to the Sun Coast. So that's basically the eastern piece in between US19 and the Sun Coast. We've been working with county staff in both Hernando and Pasco County to advance this project and we added rightway funding for that piece in fiscal year
29. We also have US 301 and I wish uh we had our Zephr Hills representative because they'll be happy to hear that we've had increased the right of way on that piece to to get what we think we need in order to do u the improvement that's needed in that area and take care
of that bottleneck. So the right >> take that did you take that money from 52? >> No, this this was >> get the money for that. >> This was a much smaller increase. It wouldn't have covered that $41 million gap that we have. So we this I think it was like a $2.5 million increase.
>> And then we also have US41 at or state road 41 at 54. The interchange we talk about it seems like we talk about it every couple months. But so the right of way we're able to advance that into fiscal year 27. We're still working on that skinny concept that I talked about
a couple months ago. We're trying to nail down the details and hopefully reduce the cost of that construction project overall so that we can then move into the construction phase on that. But we are going to acquire start acquiring right away next fiscal year for that one.
>> And then 52 at I75. Yes, we know that that is a a bottleneck for a lot of folks. So we have an ultimate plan out there, but it's very expensive. We don't have the funding for that. So we asked our folks to go back and see what we can do in the interim. And so what we're
going to do is if you're going northbound on 75, the off-ramp, that is going to be a two-lane off-ramp instead of a one lane so that we can get the people off the main line quicker and get them to that uh to the intersection. If you were going
northbound onramp to 75, we're going to make that a two-lane on-ramp with the associated dual left turns for westbound 75. And then if you're going eastbound to southbound, you have that loop ramp
there. That one we're going to make that a two-lane ramp as well. So that we can >> Wait, you mean westbound? >> Yeah, westbound to southbound. That loop. >> Yeah. >> So there's there's three individual pieces. Three of the four ramps are going to be impacted by this. The fourth
one, we don't see a capacity uh challenge with that one. Commissioner, >> that was what I was curious about when we were talking about an intersection improvement, but it was turned out to be the 541 yesterday. We had a board meeting here and I was heading home and
I actually called the county administrator say, "Oh my gosh, I hope you pay attention to this because when I was heading west on 52 um and the line to go on the southbound
>> Mhm. 75 was past the truck stop and to the east, but there was no line to go north. >> Yeah, that was all >> that on-ramp that or that >> turn lane is pretty short because of the the driveway into the truck stop. And so
when you get that southbound traffic back up past that, nobody can get into that uh turn lane to access the northbound ramp. So this project will address some of that by creating additional storage not only on the ramp but on 52 as well. >> Where where are you getting the storage from?
>> So we're getting the storage because that the concrete on the on that loop ramp is wide enough for us to stripe. Most of the way we do need to add a little bit but for most of the way we have enough capac or space to make a second lane. And so that's what we're
doing so that we'll get that capacity onto the interstate rather than having it back up onto 52. So >> I'm assuming you've done counts that you think you need two lanes going north versus >> Yeah. >> two lanes ASAP going south.
>> Well, this is actually added to this. We're going to start construction on this one this fiscal year. So we're going to take care of all three movements that we need capacity today. >> We're going to take care of that this fiscal year. I think it actually goes to construction or to uh let later this
year and so we should see construction start in like the April time frame. >> And I I don't know if you have it, but you definitely there definitely needs to be a sign that says do not block the driveway of the truck. >> Flying J. >> Flying J.
>> Yeah, the flying j I'll make sure that we include that in our plans. a lot of cars. >> Can I say I'm so glad the trail is going, you know, that we did that bridge underneath when when you redesigned the 72 75 intersections when I first got
elected because there's no way that trail could have gone under that underpass safely with all those trucks and cars. >> Yeah. >> Wish we had that at some other intersections. Okay.
>> All right. And then bicycle and pedestrian improvements. So, we are continuing with our sidewalk gap project. This is where we have the we're filling in all those sidewalk gaps on the state highway system. How we determine which ones to fill in is we have a list that is the entire county,
state roads. We gave that anywhere there's a sidewalk gap, we gave that list to the MO. They gave us the the priority list and we're just trying to knock those off. 1 2 3 4 just go down the list. This will be the fifth year that we have funded this project and we are starting to see construction start
now on these. So, we're happy to keep that one going. Thank you to Pasco County uh engineering team. They allowed us to advance construction on Pine Ranch Road from Grant to Mountain Ash Way from
29 into 28 to accommodate another project that needed to delay their construction in Hillsboro County. Then we also have a sidewalk on Zimmerman Road from Ranch Road to State Road 52. That'll be construction in 31.
Here's all the reservicing projects that we have in the in the county. And there should be a list in your agenda packet of these. We didn't want to put them on all on a slide because it'd take a long time to go through them all. So there's a quick map and then we have it
communication system that's going to go on 41 from county line up to 54 and then Dale Mabry from county line up to where it merges with uh 41. So that'll help us do some technology improvement to move traffic through that area quicker as
well. And then we have some rest area improvements uh both rest area north and southbound and just north of 56 um that'll be going to construction in fiscal year 28. This is a total amount of funding we have programs from 27 to
31. >> Mr. Chairman, >> commissioner, >> so the improvements on that rest area was that probably what was being >> was someone made mention of like some things improvements on 75 or rest areas in 75. It's probably just the improvements, not a new construction of a new site. >> No, it's just going to be improvements
to the existing rest areas. >> Thank you. >> So, we have $337 million program or planned to spend in Pasco County from 27 to 31. The biggest uh amount of that is $173 million on capacity improvements.
Next to that would be 112 million on resurfacing and about 30 million or 28 and a half million dollars in modal projects with transit and our aviation partners at the Zephr Hills Municipal Airport.
Here's the comment or the time frame due dates and all that kind of stuff. We already had our um public hearing and we got public comments. The NO objections were due Tuesday, but that's kind of a soft deadline. So if you we know we're here after that date. So if you have any
objections or comments, we'd be more than happy to take those. We'll send it to the legislature and the Florida Transportation Commission in like January. And then once the governor signs it July 1st, we will have the adoption of the new work program. Now, before I answer any other questions, I
just want to remind everybody that's listening that be out there, walk safe. We know it gets really dark really early this time of year. So, if you're going to be out walking, wear reflective clothing, wear a light, walk on a sidewalk, and if you're driving after dark, pay attention for pedestrians, and
make sure everybody gets home safe. So, >> all right, question, Mr. Starky. >> Um, I have a couple questions. Um, and you you brought up one, and I'm not sure it's answered here or my county engineers in the back there. Um, and I probably have asked this before, but I
have a memory problem. So, how do we um how are we ranking roads for us to put lights on like collector and arterials and and and what's your program for lighting any of your roads? I mean,
>> so we do a lighting analysis and then um so I know we do a lighting analysis. I don't know how we do it if we're being honest today. >> So, that's a good question. >> Yeah. I
Yeah. So, I can get that information to to the to share with you all >> and and and I I am I am curious because I have roads, you know, I'm sure you guys can think of some here, but what comes to my mind is the amount of traffic on a road and how dark it is.
So, what come, you know, I drove off the road, um, Trouble Creek, and I've mentioned it here before. It's a narrow two-lane road with a lot of traffic and it's windy and it's very scary at night in parts. Um, Trinity Boulevard, no
lights. Starky Boulevard, pitch black. People riding the trail with a headlight on their head, you know, in the dark. Um, I I would love to see a list of the roads that we're going to be putting lights on, the schedule, and how how we
determine which ones they are. I can get you that information from the department side >> and I I want some it from our staff too and they may have given it to me but I've forgotten. Okay. My next question is um yesterday at our board meeting we approved a lap project.
I don't remember hearing do you guys know what a lap project is? >> No. Yeah. So can someone tell me what that is and how did that road how do we determine what road gets to be funded in a priority list of a lap? So what that
is is a project that is funded off your list of priority projects that you guys approve as the NO. We fund a we put the federal funding on a local road and if the local government so either Pasco County or one of the cities is
lapcertified then they can deliver that project instead of the department being able to deliver the project. And so that funding passes through us goes to the local government to deliver the project. And there's certain federal requirements that have to be met with advertisements
and how those funds are spent and what eligible costs are. And so that's the LAP program that that oversees those different components of the project. >> So when did this board vote on this lap project? Because I don't recall voting on it. Maybe we did.
>> What do you know what project it was? >> Yeah, it was Fort King. We this board because here comes my county >> engineer. Mr. Chair, >> good morning. Nick Duran, county engineer. Um, commissioner, you're
you're referring to a transportation alternatives project. >> They called it a lap project. >> So lap is the acronym, the local agency particip program. The local agency program. That's the acronym that the state of Florida uses anytime a local entity is building something with
federal funds. So that's the agreement we have to execute with the department of transportation to receive the the federal dollars through the state DOT and and promise to follow the federal regulations. >> Okay. So when did we what where is the list projects and when did we
>> the project that you're referring to is actually a transportation alternatives project which is part of your list of priority projects that the MO adopts annually. The NPO said, "Let's build a sidewalk on Fort King Road as a TA project." They did that in response to a
county application to the NPO saying, "Hey, we'd love to get federal money to build a sidewalk on Fort King." The NO board adopted that list of priority projects. And then in a prior year, several years back, someone in Brian's seat came forward and said, "Hey, we're presenting you a draft work program. We
were able to fund your priority project for the sidewalk on Fort King. here's the dollars we're allocated uh in in the fiscal year that we're put we programmed them and then we finally gotten to the fun to the year where construction is funded and DOT said to the county it's
time to execute the agreement where you promised to follow the federal rules in order to build the project with the federal money. So what we did yesterday was execute the agreement that says we're going to build the build the sidewalk. >> Okay. So where is it on this list because I'm I've not seen it. It's
probably page four or five >> own page. >> Yeah, you get toward the end and the TA projects are listed separately. TA stands for transportation alternatives. That's >> there's a lot of stuff in here. So when it says program, >> they're already funded.
>> Yes. >> So this is like Leonard that I've been 14 years waiting for that. >> So So what happens is they get on the list first because the the list of priority projects is a is a request for money. And then we share that list with the department and Brian says, "Hey,
good news. In a presentation like the one he just gave, we have funded your request for money." And then we work hard to get the design done and get ready to build the project in the con in the year they were able to allocate construction money. >> I I I don't understand how it jumped all
of these other projects. That's like maybe I'm missing some. >> That's more research than I have in my memory. Bank. I'm not saying it's a bad project, but I just don't understand how all of a sudden it appeared yesterday and I never >> It was requested years ago, which is
what how it got to where it is now. >> Madam Chair, >> construction, Mr. Chair, sorry, >> commissioner. Only another week of that. Yes, this project was requested like Nick was saying, this was prioritized years ago, which it's now just going into the funding mechanism to be uh
executed now for uh project delivery. So, this is a project. >> What number is it on here? >> I think it's three on page six. >> Okay. What's these pages aren't numbered. So what what is considered
page six? Yeah. >> Oh, there. Okay. So, so this says programmed. >> Yes. >> So, the Mitchell Boulevard sidewalk that's number one on this list, is that already under construction? If it's programmed, it's going into the program
phase. I don't know what phase it's in, but yes, all those projects were programmed and we worked with TED through their sidewalk prioritization list and then we worked to put it on our current lot so that way we could work in tandem with what the transportation
engineering department was doing. So that way we weren't overlooking any requests or going outside of the county's prioritization process. >> Okay. So, Jasmine Boulevard multi-use path that's already going. I mean, this did not jump in front of any of those. >> No. No.
>> Beexley Elementary, Leonard Sidewalk. >> Correct. >> G Highlands, Brain Ranch, which is the one you just spoke about. Okay. I just >> Thank you. Sorry. Um, yeah, those are my two questions. But, you know, I continue
to have conversations. I was at the cutter awards and I talked to the secretary and working on these Starky um 54 bike ped overpass. >> Yep. >> Um you're not talk you did you mention anything here about the construction of
those of the 52 and 54 and Sun Coast? >> No. >> So the 54 overpass is going to be advertised and selected in December. So probably, you know, four or five months after that, you'll start to see
construction and the 52 ad overpass that was already advertised and selected and so you should see groundbreaking somewhere in like January time. >> That's right. January. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> Commissioner Mariana, I was going to say and don't be worried about like Lendy Road, etc. because you've got Zimmerman
that just got approved. It's been on the list for over 20 years plus. >> Yeah. kind of like Leonard >> and the Cody River underpass was on there before I got elected as well. Still not done. So >> So Leonard, >> does that mean this year? Oh, wait. Design was in 2025.
So it was done last year since we funded it. Is it designed since we're now in Oh, no. Still in 2025. Um, yeah, Leonard, I inherited that one from Commissioner Neil Larry. She'd been
trying for years to do that one. >> And just one last thing, Brian, I want to thank you too for being so responsive in everything we do. I mean, >> absolutely. Yeah. >> D is just phenomenal and you and you're stepping in this role phenomenally. I appreciate you meeting with me coming up on November 21.
>> Uh with the opportunity to go look at that Santander project to try to look at that ride and park and ride program which could be great for DOT as well as other capacities in the whole area. So, thank you for stepping right up and hopefully we're going to get turnpike authority there too. I didn't see them on the list yet, but hopefully they're going to join us.
>> Thank you. >> Any other questions? >> All right, >> you all took it easy on me this year. Thank you. >> We're done. Done for now. >> All right, next up, we got the U >> I'm sorry. Can I ask Brian one more question real fast? Um, did my staff get
with you on the um coast to coast trail at State Road 54 and Starky on maintenance of your rideway? And I mean, we're I think I have a walkth through coming here and um but it's overgrown and dangerous because the plants are
higher than anyone riding a bike. >> They got to somebody. It wasn't me, but I know they got they talked with somebody. We had had some internal conversations. I don't know where that led, but I'll follow up. >> We just want to take over the maintenance of that little section so we can landscape it,
>> make it safe. And >> I think Nick and I had had a conversation. And then >> there's a lot of co grass there, too, as well. >> The short story is when that pathway was constructed, we executed an agreement allowing the county to perform additional maintenance. >> Oh, we didn't do it. >> And we have we have the freedom and opportunity to do so. So, balls in our
court. We we got what we needed from them. We understand the relationship. We just need to pull the trigger and make it happen. Get ready for my pestering. >> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. Next up, Florida Turnpike Enterprise F. Work program 27 through31.
>> Tina, how you doing? >> Very well. Hello. My name is Victoria Williams. I am the MO liaison administrator and we have a new MO liaison as well. Lauren Hughes is here and he'll be joining your meetings continuing forward. So our turnpike
enterprise uh is a part of FDOT and the projects you see are funded by toll revenue primarily. So they're user financed. We wanted to highlight some of our accomplishments and uh some of the funding that we have
planned in the next 5 years toll dollars at work. This State Road 54 interchange operational ramp improvement project was to add intersection turn lanes, extend the deceleration lane on the ramp and it
began in 2022. We're hopeful that the construction cost there was uh the 6 million finishing it in October. You see the depiction of traffic backups before and after. were very pleased with how things started moving along in 23 when
that was completed. The facilities that the turnpike has in Pasco County, uh, basically your Sun Coast Parkway, which you have 20 miles of the 55 miles of that facility with a few more miles planned through other counties. So,
Turnpike Travel is uh primarily regional. We do pay attention to local needs as well. And our funding this year at district 7, including other counties, uh for Pasco, we're doing the
interchange at State Road 54 to enhance ramps um movement there. Uh it's about $7.5 million. We have a handout of the Florida's Turnpike Enterprise 5-year work program
for District 7. And I'll just key in on that. We have a hard copy if you need uh there's a some of them you can pick up and I believe they were distributed electronically. Page one gives our major accomplishments. We have done some resurfacing of the Sun Coast Parkway in
the area of Pasco uh right on from Hillsboro on up as you see depicted on page one. We're also explaining what our funding codes mean. The PE is like a design phase of the projects. So on page
five, Pasco County project is depicted. That $7.4 million job where we are going to work on the interchange uh enhancing safety. Uh the construction was put into the first fiscal year we could fiscal
year 27. And it's going to widen the southbound off-ramp. It's going to reconfigure the terminal at the intersection uh base. We're going to provide three left turn lanes and two right turn lanes. In addition to that,
we'll do the regular milling, uh, resurfacing, make it a smooth, uh, pavement. We'll also enhance the markings for our smart cars to be able to na navigate well on this roadway. We'll be relocating some of the light poles there, too. Uh, improving some
signage, uh, the mast arm and doing some signal modifications at that location. Uh again, continuing to work on local needs. Uh we're putting in the intelligent transportation system. Uh we're also going to work on drainage.
This was added to our 5-year work program. We're very pleased to see it got in. On the page eight, we show projects that we haven't yet funded for construction, but we're looking at them. We're trying
to phase our thoughts around a design in Pasco County for a mile and a half starting at the county line to perhaps widen the Sun Coast right on up to milepost 19 State Road 54. Um, we're
putting that design in the first couple of years, the $20.9 million to study that uh seeing what's needed. And we also have some money for right away uh put in the years 2029 and 30. >> You you need more rightway.
>> I believe that's some what they would call clips, but I can check with the project manager to determine what they anticipate the possible needs. It's very early in the design phase. I think they put 640 million down for some clips in that mile and a half that may need to
happen with the widening, but I I'll get some clarity on that for us. Great question. The improvement, as you see, has an FBI number. We have a lot of material on our website, floridaspike.com.
It gives great uh overview of the regional projects uh on the roadways and in particular some of the details about this project in your county. Uh I may not have our final slide here. I don't know why it doesn't show, but it
is to advise about seat belts. We're seeing a lot more traffic as our visitors come into Florida and seat belts can save lives. So that's our safety message. Thanks for your help on that. >> Questions? >> Any questions? Mr. Chairman, >> Commissioner,
>> so if you haven't been invited yet, um would like I'd like to invite you to on November 21, Brian and I going to meet down in 54 at the Sun Coast at a place called Santander with owners of the property there to do a look at doing a park and ride. Uh we try to do one at
the Ridge Road, >> you know, we have one across the street, >> huh? We have one at >> the preserve. >> This could be a lot bigger. >> Um, it looks like it fits parameters that'll fit to where your other big parking rides are. As much as we tried to do one to the north where you have
the big toll collection system that's now abandoned and stuff goes off to the side. We still would like to do that, but this is an opportunity that just came out that um we like have you come down to the meeting as well. And Brian, maybe you could give the information, too, or I'll give it to you after.
>> Brian, thank you. >> Is there any issue? Commissioner Marina DOT has one right down the street at the preserve park and ride. >> It's not being used. Just >> I'll rely on my >> Just make sure you look at that one too. >> Thank you.
>> Yeah. So, we have a park and ride program that we would look and there is an evaluation matrix in there. So, we just have to to look at all those things. But, um >> it's on the north side. >> Yeah. It takes into account future growth, development, that kind of thing. So, um I don't know how the interplay
between the two would be how it would react, the evaluation would react to that. >> Okay. >> If you didn't get that to them, that'd be great. And then >> Well, they're the ones that built it, so it's at the entrance to the preserve on the left hand side. >> Yeah.
>> Um boy, I drove to Tallahassee a couple weeks ago. Um not, it's not normal for me to get on the Sun Coast and go north. I couldn't believe the traffic coming south in the in the rush hour. >> I couldn't believe it. All the way
through Hernando County. Um and then if if you're unlucky enough to be coming up from Tampa in the late afternoon, it's horrendous. So I I just, you know, God speed on widening that
road. I mean, I think we're a couple years behind. Um >> appreciate your comment. It's going to be a It's going to be like Miami there for a while till we get this light. It's horrible. >> Yes. Um, so let me ask you this because you know you you you built an express
lane which always says express open like I don't know why we use the word open instead of just saying like express should be like free so people know. But you spend all that money on all those cones going all the way down. It's been free for all these years. I don't know why you don't just take those red markers out and let that this be free
flowing everywhere >> because other people don't go in there so it goes away. >> Well sometimes so instead of having a threelane road you'll have a four lane road without spend any more money >> and just like let it go and that might free up a little bit in the morning that's going to help not fix everything
but it makes it safer better too because instead they worry about hitting those things which you can see there's all sorts of marks they have been hit. just tear the things out, open the road up, and let it just flow because you haven't done it for at least three or four years. Why are we wasting the time? >> Let's get it flowing as best we can.
>> So, these guys were in Orlando at what did we call that meeting? >> Metrop plan. >> I don't think I talked about it yesterday in my commission meetings. The four of us were at the metrop plan meeting in Orlando. I flew in from Atlanta. Um,
and I took that I guess it's I4 home. You know, you know how they talked about they went to the feds in Washington and got the money to put those two uh what are those managed lanes >> on I4? They're managed lanes on the Sun
Coast. There's no additional toll on the uh the lanes that are marked through. >> Well, Orlando on I4 added in is building two two Manx lanes. It was fantastic. You could get get through the city
>> a couple times as you go. Yeah, I you know I used them until I got to the dead end and then they had construction. Um I think you need more managed lanes personally. >> Appreciate your suggestion. Thank you. >> Yeah, I just and they got federal money
to do theirs. I mean this is but of course they have you were there. They have that regional >> regional group and they go up and ask for federal money. Mhm. >> We can't do that because uh I mean we can but we don't have the clout that a
regional a regional >> and I wanted to let you know that la uh two weeks ago commissioner Edgars called me. He had gone to Tallahassee came came down uh to and visited Commissioner Lap Vala in the hospital Gainesville. So
because he was coming down a different way to go home. He got off and was coming across 54. I would have told him to come a different way. Uh, and he called me like, "Oh my gosh, I'm in, you know, a parking lot. What are you guys doing here at 54 and 41?" >> So I said, "I'm feeling pain."
>> I know. I know. I said, "I'm so glad that you went that route actually and you can see what we're talking about that we need to advance. We need help getting that intersection, you know, done. We've been supporting all those improvements down in Hillsboro County
and Ellis County. Um, but it's our it's our turn. >> But remember, Commissioner Acres and Janet Law both >> Oh, he brought it up. >> They made the motion sec they made the motion second. >> Yeah. >> On the TMA to make that the top of the list, the next project be >> and he brought it up at the TMA meeting.
I I had to zoom in. I I had another um meeting, but um he did bring it up how important it was to to elevate that. So, I wonder, you know, we we we signed on on the Westshore interchange
improvements that that took a lot of money to to do all that. Um, also that one in Penllis County, I think it's the 118th Street. Have you have you guys taken that new flyover to get down to St. Pete from uh like Largo?
>> It's amazing. Yep. >> Um I don't know if R54 and 41 has been elevated enough that it pulls from all the C the other two counties to help us get that done. It's >> supposed to
>> like like the Westshore interchange. You didn't hear what I was saying. >> Yeah. That's why we want to have it in the TMA to get all that extra federal money. That's why frankly this joint MO is very beneficial to get us all pulling together and get that extra regional money. Yeah. That's that's coming from the bigger pot
>> cuz we signed on to all those big projects down south and our project isn't as much money as the west shore interchange now Franklin and the 118th street if that's what it's called in Penelis but it's important to the region that we get 54 and 41 fixed so
>> okay >> so 54 and 41 >> we're 10 years late on that one the turn is already right here all we want to worry I do think that when Ridge connects to 41, it'll help that intersection a little bit.
>> Don't you? >> Yeah. >> But then we're going to have more traffic on 52 cuz you can go 52 down to 41 to Ridge >> and it's National Seat Belt Day tomorrow. Everybody buckle up. >> My new car will not let me go without my
seatelt on. >> All right. Any other questions? All right. Thank you. >> Okay. Other business. >> Yeah, I got >> uh Okay, we've got Brian Hunter back back up for response to inquiries posed
at the last NPO board meeting. >> All right. So, these uh three topics that were required are requested to have some information submitted to you all. So, we have the state road 52 speed limit study. I know a lot there have been a lot of questions about that. So, our traffic operations folks went out
there, did some speed studies, evaluated the what people are driving, and so we have some changes that'll be going on uh once we get some signoffs for design variations. So, from I75 to Wart Road,
which is just east of Curly, it'll stay at 45 miles an hour. W R T >> W I R T >> All right. Wart to Smith Road, which is just east of Old Clinton, will become 55 miles an
hour. And then from there over to Valley Road, will be 50 m an hour, which is about a third of a mile west of US 301. And then the piece approaching US 301 will remain at 45 miles an hour. So, we'll have an increase and then taper
back down as we get closer to US 301. Um, the third item on there is the Cody River underpass. So, our consultant is finalizing the kind of the line and grade and survey information on that so that we can then
evaluate how much of those parking spots we're going to uh impact and if there's any way for us to not impact them. And so, they're just finalizing that. I think we should have something in paper in the next three months so that we can
we can come back work with y'all to to see what our next steps are. So, we'll finally have a definable footprint and what we need for that project. So, we're happy to get there. >> That's that'll be a big milestone, right?
>> That's a surprise. I think I just asked the last meeting. It was going to be another eight months. So, >> so I think we'll have those things. It may be a little longer for the right of way needs estimate, but we'll have like that definable footprint. >> Yeah. So, we can ask them to >> Yeah. >> So, >> and that way we can start those
conversations and figure out how we move forward and get that one off the off the books so that we we never have to talk about it again and we'll all be happy about that. >> Good. >> Lovely. >> Huge. It was just >> Okay. I had a question and it just lost me. Let me think about this.
Oh, rangeand. So, um, you know, you guys came to me and asked us to, uh, move up rangeand. Was it on your plans anywhere? >> I don't know. >> It's not in the five-year. It used to be called tower.
>> I'm I wasn't involved in those conversations, so I don't know, but I can. >> So, DOT came and asked us to put it in the five-year work plan because it would be a reliever for State Road 54. I'm not sure if I saw here. We did that last year. Huh? Are you sure it wasn't turn? >> No, this was DOT.
>> And um and I know we're working on the study with the sun the turnpike to see if it should connect to the turnpike or not. I I think I'll say it here. haven't had our final meeting on it, but I think what we're deciding to do is
that rangeand will go over the Sun Coast um and connect to Beexley on the other side and we'll reserve the right to connect it to the Sun Coast. Um, but I didn't see it anywhere on here and I
have a legislative request in for some design money towards that road in this upcoming year for the designing of the road. I think the route study is about done. the the one from the limit you talk
about east of >> that is in the CIP for design is already funded in 26 >> no no I I think the design is funded >> right >> funded in 27 in the CIP and
construction's funed in 29 >> and so and that's so that's not >> that's not anything we talk about here >> but I also give you the thumbs up so >> okay So, do so my my question is since it's a reliever for state road 54, I thought there was an opportunity to to
also get some money from them for that road. >> And the only programs we would have would be ones that u through the >> through the no um we I don't I think >> we have a trip request already in >> for them from them. Okay. Did was it
mentioned here? It's in the loft. It's number It's number 80. Number timing doesn't >> Okay, that's fine. I just want to make sure I just want to make sure it was in there because you know when when we had that oil spill and 54 shut down for the
day that was a real problem. >> Yeah. >> Okay. That's what that's Mr. >> Okay. Anyone else? All right. Thank you. Um, next meeting on January 8th.
>> Oh, okay. >> Really quick before we we dis uh we leave for the day, I just wanted to say a special thank you to the MO board for coming out to the Metrop Plan Orlando um trip that we took to see what a merch no
looks like. The conversation was incredibly um I think was very meaningful to have other electeds uh in the room to discuss what emerge looks like. I know Commissioner Starky truly enjoyed herself and she had some good discussion and um all that were uh
attended uh Mayor Hoover, uh Mayor Black, and uh Councilman Matt Murphy. So, thank you once again for attending. I just wanted to um and we could also have a discussion if you'd like as well. >> Well, are you going to mention our big meeting? We have our big meeting tomorrow which is the principal's
workshop. If you have not RSVPd, please RSVP today so that way we can get a headcount but we will be having elected officials, stakeholders, citizens to discuss the MO merger with the actual consultant which is White House Group.
We will have several different topics to discuss further and in depth to take our conversation from Metro Plan to the next level as far as it concerns the Tampa Bay regional merger. Do you have the five commissioners coming? >> Uh, I believe it's you. I think it's
just at this time. >> I'm sorry. >> Alice. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Commissioner Oakley selling Alex Holt. And you, Commissioner Stark, I believe, is that >> Commissioner who? >> Commissioner Oakley sending his legislative aid. Alex Holt.
>> I'm the only commissioner going. >> I think I believe so. >> Jeez. >> But we do have representatives from Pasco. um departments that will be there. So, we'll have uh David Allen AA and we will have Nina Elen as well. >> I thought I signed up, but maybe
>> Yeah, I thought I thought you said that was like a critically important. >> It is critically important. I I wish I know schedules don't align. So, um but if you can attend, please principal. >> Yeah, I signed up for that. >> Oh, you okay? I didn't see your RSVP, so
I just >> I thought I did too, but I'll double check. Okay, I'll double check with uh Sarah Caper. >> Okay. And you can zoom in. >> There is no zoom. >> It shows zoom on the thing. >> There is zoom capability, but not for this meeting. I I do apologize.
>> All right. >> For the record, I like to state that's a good looking crew up there. Yes, >> I agree. >> Hey, very photogenic. And the next um really quick item that I wanted to pull
up is that we uh Pasco NPO actually made it to the FDOT newsletter and we were highlighted and I'll let Miss Angela Villa take this over because this is a kudos to her and her hard work on Project Red Light for Pasco County this month.
>> Right. >> Thank you very much. Um, so as many of you know from our our previous mention, Project Red Light is a pedestrian safety focused um campaign that's been spearheaded by our BPAC um that's really just focused on getting the word out about um
stopping at crosswalks and and being aware of pedestrians um and so we've coordinated with several county departments and and as well as FDOT um to you know put out this newsletter as well as um put safety messages on the six county owned messages message boards
along three of the roadways in our high injury network. Um a social media campaign um which included a post every week, a PSA video um and reels as well as a PSA video posted on all um Pasco County TVs
um and then a slideshow in both the tax collector office and and various HCA hospitals. So um we are getting some of those exposure numbers back. We've had over 20,000 interactions on social media, including views and interactions. So, um, you know, we're really just
trying to get the word out there and this is recurring. This is our second year, so hopefully next year will be bigger and better. And thank you very much. >> Thanks, Mr. Chair. >> Commissioner, >> just to add something as far as red light cameras comes to mind. Uh we had someone speak to our board of county
commissioners at the previous meeting and they talked about how we was going through the process of like fighting these camera lights etc. Um and for different reasons. Uh I got some data from I think it was DOT that sent it over to us actually shows that those red
light cameras aren't making it safer. They're actually making more accidents. Not a huge amount but they're more. I will get that information. I'll have it sent to the whole I'll send it to Nia. She can send it out to all board members. you take a look at it. >> It's not a great safety thing. It's not helping. Just costing our taxpayers
money. >> Okay. Anything else? Uh, next meeting on January 8th on the west side, Newport Richie. >> Mot. Second.
>> Thank you.