thank you Rafael Good evening Patterson Good evening members of the public So um in this at this moment we about to start the meeting So we're waiting for one more council members um to start um having discussion formally about city business But at this time we have a
presentation Uh Mr Ventur is here with us Mr Ventur I will I will open the mic for you to give us the great news that we have for all the council members and the community at large al as well Where is he oh we going to go there Okay
Good evening council president council people Good evening dignitaries Uh Mr President I do have copies for every member of the council and can you please uh No mic is on Just uh Rafael could you
just give a more value to the mic on the public side all right we good Very good Now it's good Mr I also have one for the mayor so that he can be part of this Uh the purpose of me being here is that Patterson all of Patterson will be part
of a dedication that will be held on April 27th in the New Jersey Vietnam War Veterans Memorial Wall in Homeell New Jersey honoring a fall fallen son of
Patterson New Jersey Tony Van Cherry Maitlyn a Patterson We're going to talk about how it started and where we got to In October of 1984 the Patterson City Council came to the Vietnam Veterans of
Patterson and asked if they would like to have a home for the fallen sons of Patterson Of course we didn't say no I was the commander at the time So we researched with the help of families that were still here friends newspaper
articles with the help of uh Jack Dano from the museum We gathered as much as information as we could We found 31 sons from Patterson were killed in Vietnam The largest group in Pay County
While we doublech checked our paperwork we found with the help of a fellow Vietnam veteran member of my group Donald Sodto from the east side section who told me that this young man Allan
Katz was from Patterson But the reason his name was not on the Jersey wall or my our monument here in Patterson was that he was listed day you know in Santa Monica California where
his parents had moved out about a year and a half before he was killed But the first 18 and a half years were right here in Patterson So I will start out by saying that on May 7th 1985 the Patterson Vietnam
Veterans Memorial Monument was dedicated on a park on Wayne Avenue I'm sorry Union Avenue between Manchester and Patterson A becoming the Patterson Vietnam Veterans Memorial Park
honoring our 32 sons Alan Catz was born in Pake but he was raised on East 32nd Street graduating from school number 20 and East Side High School in 1965
Sometime after 19 graduation his parents along with their uncle who they owned a deli in Pake on Monroe Street for over 20 years It was called KN&S cats and sodal which was Uncle
Frank's last name They decided to move to Santa Monica California and they arrived there sometime in late ' 65 In around July of ' 66 Allan was drafted into the army where he did his
basic training somewhere in California I don't know and his infantry training He arrived in Vietnam on December 22nd 1966 He celebrated his 21 20th birthday
on July 7th 1967 On February 26 1967 a large hostile force attacked his night position killing nine of his fellow
brothers including PFC Allen Cats He was buried as you go through your research He was buried in the memorial cemetery in Glover City
California Now I visited the New Jersey Memorial three times in my in the 25 years that it's been there since 1988 And whenever you go to any memorial like the cemetery and you visit your
parents or your relative it never goes further than one or two I never got to see Nick I mean Allen's name because I never looked for it
And then last year while I was part of the Vietnam Veterans Pate County Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall in Wayne I was on the committee to identify the 84 sons from P County who were killed in
Vietnam The wall when it was dedicated in New Jersey had 144 84 names including one woman So I I started researching I wanted to make sure that Allan and all my 32 sons
and the brothers from Pay County were all on the wall They were all on the wall except Allen cats So I researched it and got in touch with the Vietnam Veterans of America which is authorized to put the names of
the veterans who were killed on the wall in Washington And they said that Mr Cat's family lived in Santa Monica California His mother Esther and father Hyman and his two younger brothers Jerry and
Ricky So that's why he's in he's one of the 5,000 sons killed in California Beautiful Okay But when he was buried there his father his parents put on his tombstone under his
name New Jersey Okay So now I'm saying what's going on i'm researching And believe me you can find everything you want on the website There's no doubt about it And I'm so glad that I someone showed me how to do
it and I got the information that we needed for our brother and our son then looked more into the and found out that in Santa Monica California and I spoke to the commander
re as recently as yesterday there's an Allen Harvey Catz Jewish war veteran post 118 still active today I also spoke to his niece his sis his
cousin excuse me Um whose father was the the the brother of Allen's mother They owned a store in like I said on Monroe Street in Pake for over 20 years Now it's even getting better
So I called up the New Jersey Memorial Hall in Homedale spoke to the CEO Amy Osborne who never once never once tried to talk me out of it She was so supportive of every step we took to
bring Allan home was unbelievable She just needed all the information the documentations the pictures and we sent it We sent the pictures like this New
Jersey We were called by the Asbury newspaper the headline Patterson Native to be added to the Vietnam Memorial Wall And it's happened before As more recently as two years ago a Vietnam
veteran that was killed in action was put in Pleasantville Pennsylvania Well we have Pleasantville New Jersey and the correction was made and two years ago Mr Fallen Son Garzlin
was put on the wall So in the article he asked us and me and my friend Don who went to school who lived who grew up with Allen we wanted to be identified as two Vietnam veterans from Patterson who let everybody know
about Allen Catz It's not about us It's about our brother Well after all that information and a ride to the memorial in Homeell Don and I and a couple other Vietnam vets who
are very much involved with helping veterans today all veterans men and women you know my reputation for over 50 years I never forget a brother or sister Okay they come only second to my wife my
four children and my four grandchildren We went down there with more stuff And Amy oh let me tell you something She She felt like our big sister Okay We were
older of course but she made us feel like Allan PFC Allen Catz was home Beautiful And then she said that Don and I pick a date to bring Allan Catz back to New
Jersey where he put on his parents put on his stone So I am giving you this paperwork including our mayor to put something together from his town that he grew up
with Okay and you know we're going to be down there Of course I'm inviting you to go It's exit 114 uh on the Parkway uh New Jersey wall on April 27th at 11 o'clock We picked a
Sunday so that people can not say I had to work Even if you went to church go to 7:30 mass It's a better one anyway But my point is is that the information that we've accumulated over a year and over 41
years were so important So finally I just want to say that if anyone knows of a veteran of any war that this person in front of you and other veterans can
help maybe we missed something over the years you know maybe you know let us know Let let us know No she got there's nine out there There's eight and the president So
we're here And anybody could find me cuz I still live in Patt Y I'm not going on The only time I'm moving to to is when I'm underground not on time On time So this is so Mr Manur April 27 11:00 a.m
Correct What the day is April 27 11 a.m 27 11 o'clock home Vietnam Memorial New Jersey Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall It's exit 114 off the Parkway Um and program starts at about
11 And while I'm also here I want to mention we totally support the Veterans Council and the 12 20,000 veterans that live in this city Okay from World War II to Afghanistan Iraq Desert
Storm We support the movement of naming Main Street Veterans Way We appreciate that Mr Jackson We also support Councilwoman M Jackson initiative about putting the pictures of our fallen
brothers sisters mothers fathers husbands wives right i mean you go to Todda Elwood Park Woodland Park Little Falls North Halen you feel like you're in a Norman
Rockwell picture Okay Because they honor their veterans and their son's daughters again Wow Let's Patterson be one of them Absolutely Okay Let's be able to go down the street and say "Hey I I got my son." You have to know that 217 Psonians were
killed in the civil war 682 Panasonians were wounded in the Civil War out of,00 men That's a 92% of casualty Hello Okay Over 400 veterans
from Patterson died in World War II 21 from the Korean War Three from the Iraqi war Thank God we didn't lose any in Afghanistan You want me to keep going hundreds were killed Hundreds were killed during the
first world war I can't get the complete number but I know what how many got killed in the Second W because the World War I monument at the Hill of heroes tells you their names Okay So so many of us from Patterson
have gone and prepared to die for our great country our great state our great county and our great Patterson So I want to thank you Council President If there's any information you need from me I'm here Thank you Mr Vancerry I just
want to uh once again reiterate what I mentioned before I just want to say thank you You're doing an outstanding job supporting our veterans you you never stop working You you constantly out there looking for resources um you know helping our veterans It's amazing the job that you're doing Um so I know I
have Councilman Mims and right after Councilman Jackson Councilman Mims Yes So thank you so much Mr Venterry We know that you are a legend in our community You have been a trailblazer advocating fighting serving have risked your life
and sacrifice for all of our veterans So we want to thank you and commend you But I do want to put it on record that I sponsored the street naming for Veterans Way Councilman Jackson has done he's doing the banner work but I sponsored the street naming It was my idea So I just want to put that on the record for
you Um so that you'll be um aware of that on this date I don't see the paperwork I don't know if you gave it to anyone the paperwork that Well that's one another reason I'm here is I'm hoping that someone from the family friends who went to school 20 with him
or East Side High School As you could see there's a picture of Allan Do you have the year right there and um can we have that copy you have everything I have here in your file didn't I i gave We We didn't get it There were two in
each folder and one for the council president and one for the mayor Okay I think that's all right If you could share that information with us I have that Thank you Councilman Jackson Um thank you Uh sorry about that brother V First of all um the work you do goes
without saying is enormous Um and I have to say I don't know what what what your wife is uh how she's treating you how she's feeding you Look like you're getting younger these days versus getting older but um I I was going to acknowledge that as well and never take credit for things that I do
not do Um apparently now I've been educated that Councilwoman Mims is the one who sponsored the street Um I I maybe she could sponsor the flags because I think um the flags all around Memorial Drive would mean will be be a
so much more than a simple street sign saying but putting those faces and names of the individuals as as you're pointing out today with this gentleman and uh uh uh I guess it it'll be a lot easier more
palatable to get through So I don't mind You You never see me running to I have to put my name on legislation As long as it gets done it gets done Um but I do have a question for you relative to um his the the addition of his name Was
is it just added to the bottom of the list how's that done because I mean we've since his time when he's lost his life there's been many other names that's added They just added to the bottom of the list or is it remended how does that work what happened i'll give
you a minute there In 1988 in December when we dedicated the wall in home there were 1484 names Use the mic Okay Mr Verett Close the mic please Thank you U there were 1484 names
with one woman that killed in N And over the years there have been situations like Allan Catz He grew up 18 and a half years in Patterson He celebrated his 20th birthday on January 7th in ' 67 in NAM Turned 20 Within a month and a half
he was killed in action But because he was drafted into the military in Santa Monica California and is buried out there he was he was not put on the Jersey wall the wall And Mr and Osborne
told me that they go by what the Bible which has the 80 uh 58,000 sons names on in the Bible we call it all the names of the sons he was put there because his address is California there was a gentleman
recently put in there Glin like I said he he was he was from Pleasantville New Jersey but they put down Pennsylvania right here a couple couple months after we with the family of Melvin Taylor when they called me and said "Mr Verry our
son's not on the wall our our plow." Okay We found out that he was six weeks in Vietnam a proud United States Marine He was critically wounded and he was succumb to his wounds in East Orange New
Jersey a year later Okay He wasn't on the wall because he was still alive even though he he suffered But when Mrs Taylor came to me he graduated from school 28 you know and we we
followed the process So we called Washington at that time with the service officer in Pay County And what did they do you know Patterson with two T's in Georgia too They put Melvin Taylor's name on the
wall in the Bible Patterson Georgia George let me tell you something If I had an AK-47 there would have been some flying around So we called this We called Washington and the correction was
made with one T Patterson New Jersey Okay So it happens It does happen And also all 32 of our sons will officially be on the New Jersey wall with with PFC cats Thank um happens Councilwoman
Cotton has another question if Councilman Jackson finished I'm finished Thank you Okay Counciloman Cotton Thank you Um I just want to say to you uh Mr Van Sherry for many years that we have known each other uh and I can truly say that you have been fighting really hard
for veterans Yeah Um I'm coming from a veteran family my grandfather World War I my father World War II my brother Vietnam Desert Storm You know all those were all my cousins in the military And I try to say to young people that
there's many benefits of being in the military after coming out You know sometimes you find that it's hard when you do come out you don't get the support But we have these veteran council like yourself organization like the county where they help veterans to
um get back get started back again But I just want to say I commend you for all the hard work that you have been doing for for many many many years Uh I've been around to see you do that you know I've seen you at the McBride um Union
Avenue over here at the at the at the post office you know dedicating the time And I think that we need to understand and community veterans um going to war for us You know I remember my brother being in the war and
and you can hear bombs dropping like just dropping he would put on his tape recorder and and just so he said he wanted us to hear what a lot of men and women had to go through and and being overseas and being in countries that you
know you don't know anything about And so I just want to say I commend you and um maybe my husband might know this this young man because he gra my husband graduated 1964 and he came out in 1965 So you know as you said 50 something
years later to be recognized and to be put you know put to have your name put somewhere but I just want you to continue to do the work that you do for veterans Veterans are very important I actually I've gone to a couple houses for the last couple weekends because you
know veterans you can be disabled 25% you can be disabled 50% you be disabled 100% and you get certain benefits Uh and I want to say to young people out there if you have not thought about going into the military you know you really need to
look at it uh because there's so many benefits I've traveled all over the world because of my brother You know I went to Frankfurt Germany You know I went to Paris I went to Belgium I've been to those countries I've been to in United States Um Albuquerque New Mexico
You know Louisville Kentucky you know and you get a chance to travel And I think that is so important But I commend you Chris and Cherry and your wife cuz she's right by your side Marie is right by your side every step of the way So continue to do what you do for our
veterans and for our city of Patterson Thank you Chris Thank you Councilwoman Mr Var Thank you so very much Council President Um I just want you to know that I today you Patterson is my final delivery because I've been to Psake with the
mayor Laura and his and Virginia his secretary I've been to the county meeting tonight to present them because and to our hometown of Patterson I touched all the towns that were affected
by Allen Katz and his family And that meant more to me to make sure that everyone can't say tomorrow "Oh we didn't know about that You all know about it now." And if it's only one person representing this council and the
mayor coming down to honor a fallen son please come I won't say anything more And as far as my wife Anna Murray she's the best medicine God ever gave me God bless America Thank you Thank you
Thank you Mr Vaner Council members now we um we've been joined by our councilman large free and our councilman of the states uh war uh Ibrahim So let's start the meeting Madame Clerk good evening everyone On behalf of the Patterson Municipal Council we welcome
you to the workshop section on April 8 2025 it's 7:18 p.m The meeting is now called to order Madame Clerk please call the role Yes Council President roll call for the workshop session of April 8th 2025 Councilwoman Cotton here Council
Councilman Jackson here Councilwoman Mens here and ready to serve Councilman Omar here Councilman Uden I'm here Madam Clerk Council President President Madam Cler Okay Thank you We have six present
three absent Thank you Madam Cler Please read the statement of compliance Statement of compliance with the open public meetings law 2024 2025 April 8th 2025 6:30 p.m Adequate notice of this meeting was
compiled and disseminated in accordance with the open public meetings law in the following manner One the annual notice of regular meetings and workshop sessions of the municipal council was compiled for the year 2024 2025 on or about July 1st 2024
Two a schedule of the regular meetings and workshop sessions of the municipal council for the year 2024 2025 was duly transmitted on or about July 1st 2024 to the North Jersey Herald News The Record
the Arabic Voice The Italian Voice The Pay County Pulse Dominicano News Lisckea International Ellis Basiel The Patterson Press The City Post News Tap into Patterson the weekly Bangala Patrika in addition to any other publication duly
requesting such notices Three the schedule of the regular meetings and workshop sessions of the municipal council for the year 2024 2025 was prominently posted in the lobby of city hall first floor in the place reserved for the announcements of this type Four
the schedule of the regular meetings and workshop sessions of the municipal council for the year 2024 2025 was duly filed with the municipal clerk And five a copy of the schedule of regular meetings of the municipal council was mailed to any person who requested and
paid the fee authorized by the open public records act Council president Thank you Madam Clerk Um now let's start with payment of bills Councilwoman Mims payment of bill Thank you Council President I'm here to present the payment of bills on tonight The payment
of bills total 11,792,38468 uh half or 60% of this bill is payroll for our employees of 6 mill 6.272 636.80 um is for payroll We have payments for
two two payments for solid waste We have a workman's comp and we have another uh case to a settlement case that's included I move uh these items forward Council President thank you Do we have a second second Uh moved by Councilman Mim
second by Councilman Evening Roll call and clerk on payment of bill Roll call on the payment of bills in the amount of 11,792,38468 Councilwoman Cotton Yes Councilman Jackson Thank you Thank you Madam Clerk Um you
know once again um you know even in looking in tonight's uh uh chair the BA being empty vacant by a representative from the BA's office I respect and appreciate Brother Ramirez's
uh um um competency but quite frankly he's not the BA nor is he a representative of the BA's office And um you know in in looking at the letter that was prescribed uh or written by um
or presented by Councilman BZ um which speaks completely about the um irresponsible spending of various positions various employees I can't in good conscious accept and vote in the
approval of a budget that we are paying two assistant BAS six six six figure salaries and yet not one of them have ever turned up to this meeting to be accountable for the council's concerns and further if you look at the lack of
response in fact it's been it was noted in this letter that was written or presented by councilman bles the lack of response has been has been non-existent and Yet this council in the authority that we do hold in approving the spending of the city we continuously
talk about what a phenomenal job is being done and just blindly voting yes And just in mere of protest I cannot support this as usual Madame clerk my vote is no Thank you Councilman Jackson Councilwoman Mims thank you In
the absence of of our finance chair who is in training prior to coming out to this meeting on tonight our finance committee met We had 12 items that we discussed which are on this uh that we will discuss more in details um on later on tonight With that being stated the
items that are presented in this bill's list are to pay our employees and also to pay um services rendered My vote is yes Madam Clerk Thank you Councilwoman Councilman Omar yes Councilman Newton My vote is yes Madam Clerk Thank you Council President
My vote is yes Madame Clerk Um on payment of bill Thank you The votes are five in favor one against three absent The payment of bills is hereby adopted Thank you Madam Clerk So before I continue it's important that the community understand every week we
must vote on payment of bills because our employee deserve to get paid on this payment of bills you have 6,272,636 to per our employees Um so most of the money is on payment of bills Um it just is important that the community knows and understand that we
have our director uh of public sa safety here So I know there's a few items for public safety and it's item uh 33 to 36 Um director council president um council mess So I I just want to um say that uh
the items that are on here for police and fire all of these items have been properly vetted through committee Uh one item is for our grant for our behavioral health The other one is for um the application for our burn Edward Burn
Memorial Justice Program which um we are doing again Um and then it's for uh the partnership for our pistol range program And then the last one is to um award uh to authorize a contract for cooperative
um again So we met in committee um and we were fine So I'm recommending that all of these items go on consent Council members item 33 33 through 36 will go on consent If there's any question we have the director present Also we have item
number 50 which is resolution rectifying an application to the FY24 emergency management for performance grant and emergency management agent assistance item number 50 which it was uh discussed also at the committee meeting and it should go on consent as well as well Um
thank you director Thank you so very much No problem Appreciate you all Thank you Thank you We appreciate it director Um so um okay very quick uh council Jackson you have an item on the um on this agenda that you have that you have
question before before we do that can we just talk about the items that are removed um can we just yeah there are items that are removed so madame clers we have uh there's two item that will be removed which is item 61 corporation council is removed and we have item
number 30 and 31 item number 30 N31 by legal also will be removed madame clerk out of this agenda Um so council Jackson 30 31 and 61 uh council cat because we're waiting for additional information there's additional document that we need
so we put them on the side uh for now What did she say i'm sorry Councilwoman K can you turn your mic on i can't hear you He said item number 61 You took that one off too The sewer I'm sorry
With the sewer You took that one off Uh yes So just just to give some uh clarity in our finance committee We had a discussion um and we need further discussion because we're going into our introduced bud budget season and so we
want to make sure that we're not um taxing our residents twice around the same time So the recommendation was to um remove the sewer tax at this present time until there's further discussion Thank you Okay Okay Thank you Thank you
Councilwoman Um Councilman Jackson Thank you Council President So before I actually speak on the item I know many of you have know I've wrote this this item several months back but before I speak on the item and it's only because you commented after the payment of bills and it's and again uh only specifically
because I was speaking to someone in the audience with regard to the the measures of power um uh understanding that there's a necessity to pay our bills I I'm very cognizant of that But the council and the mayor the the our former
government is equal power The mayor has the power to hire employees We have no say over that The mayor directs the employees to render the services If your garbage not being picked up the council has no say over that If your recycling is not being done if the roads are not
serviced properly all the function of the mayor the council's ultimate authority and ultimate power lies in our ability to withhold payment and to pay bills So if we're here only voting on items and only approving we've just
rendered the authority that we have The way we hold the mayor accountable is by holding his purse strings And if we are not going to hold the purse strings yes if there's important items that need to be paid police need to be paid city workers need to be paid we we have the ability to separate those items and
don't pay the non-essential items And we hold those items non-payment until the things that we're asking for is getting done Just wanted to point that out as a point of clarity because it's often said after I vote no that we got to pay the bills Yes we do have to but we also it's more important to be diligent in holding
the mayor accountable Now uh Council President I don't know which which number it is Item 53 Councilman Jackson Item 53 It is a resolution uh for an ordinance that I wrote to uh uh uh implement a requirement Ordinance Yeah
that's an ordinance It's an ordinance Correct It's an ordinance that is to implement a requirement that all multi-dwelling buildings uh are h would have to provide security and 24-hour surveillance Um I I um I have to
apologize to corporation council because um I had uh uh uh presumed that there was no answer that was given to me But I also have to um uh you know give a measure of grace because in the clerk's
office where there's normally nine to 12 individuals that are working there's currently two and uh the deputy clerk that's that's holding the the the uh position down And
um where there are only two two and how many are there okay So so the entire office is how many it's not you got four office five and five and four council members
They got right now six in there Okay They got six Yes they do need it But I'm just saying five and four is nine Right I think that's okay And in the in the council's office there's two two secretaries that are servicing nine
council members So if there was an oversight and I'm only trying to make a point council councilwoman if there was an oversight of me not receiving the email from corporation council it is a it was the the the
the issue where there's a great deal of work with all the all of these these packets that need to be created that come in from various departments various divisions are handled by one or two people in in the clerk's office And I'm
making note of that because yet again when the services are not being rendered it is not the council that hires the replacements in in these officers That that job is primarily done by personnel
So if these women are being placed under duress let me let me also point out that they could work excessive amount of hours they're not being paid the overtime as well But so my apologies Corporation Council I did receive your your notice I did review it and I wanted
to be able to to um council president to go through it today I I know that Corporation Council sent sent it again today and I'm in I'm I'm not in agreement with his uh his um his uh uh uh his legal opinion and so if we can
give him an opportunity just to outline his opinion and we can kind of have a discussion on whether or not this item should go forward Um okay So so I'll open a mic to corporation council Uh we also have that discussion and I um the information that I have is that Ben Davy
from the legal department has been assigning to work with Councilman Jackson on this specific item on item 53 to find a way to bring bring it into um into in front of the council but I will open the mic to corporation council Yes Uh thank you council president and thank
you Councilman Jackson um for your inquiry So first and foremost I must say uh I think I think the proposed ordinance um is a very good idea and I and I think it has real application to serve our residents Um so please don't mistake anything that I say as sort of
um uh as in some way shape or form minimizing the potential impact of your ordinance But I do uh have some legal concerns and in order to further assist you to move this legislation forward expeditiously I've assigned a member uh
from the law department to work with you specifically hand in hand um to assist you in in in making any legal corrections that need to be made And then I respectfully request uh that the matter also be uh shared with economic development uh director I believe uh the
director is in attendance I see the assistant director um so that any practical issues um and policy concerns which is within the purview of of council uh could be addressed but I uh respectfully submit that the most expeditious and fastest way to get this
done is I welcome you to my office uh we'll accommodate you at your time and like I said I don't normally do this but I've assigned an attorney specifically to you for this matter to ensure that it can uh it can be uh drafted uh so that there are no legal issues and that the
the good merits of this proposed ordinance can proceed expeditiously And uh unfortunately that's all I have to say at this point Thank you Corporation Council So um um Councilman Jackson So um yes thank you
council president So um one uh and with all due respect uh and I don't need to have an attorney assigned to me I'm very ca much capable of uh of comprehending and understanding and writing the legislation of which I have been doing
My concern is your response It wasn't Ben Davis's response The law department has reviewed the proposed ordinance submitted by Councilman Jackson We see it see attachment A which seeks to impose etc etc The law department respectfully recommends the city Let me
get to the to the portion because um the chir Okay So it's towards the end such while the law department cannot sign off under under the the legality of Councilman Jackson's proposed ordinance What I'm asking now is what is the
legality complications according to what you've quoted here You you you outline that we should mirror NORC's uh ordinance which I totally disagree with We NORC is building buildings that
consist of 900 units two 2500 units So the likelihood of a building having more than 100 units in Newark is very much more substantial Here we're allowing developers to knock down two family houses and they're building 12 family
units They're building 20 family units That would mean we would exempt all of those buildings from being required to provide the the necessary security and the necessary surveillance Right now if you look citywide the issue that we're
having is our police department is underst staffed under manned and it's being overworked So when and and and through the the uh uh the approval and the the workings of the mayor's office through the planning board we see
an excessive amount of new constructions construction buildings uh uh being erected and none of these buildings are in excess of more than 100 units Further um you know I wrote something back to you just to to outline the fact that uh
you know I respect and appreciate your perspective but I do not agree Um although I do agree with some of the components of Norc's resolution Norc's ordinance being relative and pertinent to Patterson it the ruling that was made at at for on the constitution of New Jersey
has absolutely nothing to do where it will outline a legal um to let me not misquote you but um uh uh uh you can't sign off because the legality of Councilman Jackson's proposed ordinance So there's no legal bearing So with
regard to and and and I'm trying I mean this this presentation is really should be done for council members to understand this because council ultimately has to vote and and my brother um Omar just for a point of clarity I know you're kind of
you're new to this situation We are the legislators Corporation council is not a legislator He is a legal authority that is should be reviewing what we're what we're prescribing what we're writing He's not the one to be writing the legislation Unfortunately we don't use
that practice here He writes all the legislation and then if I write my own apparently there's we have a consistent problem with it So what I'm trying to dispel here and I want the public to be able to hear this is that what I wrote is not does not have legal issues In
fact it it it it it speaks directly to what the state and what's been ruled upon Council President you just allow me one a few more moments So additionally with respect to the implementation of the proposed fine in accordance with NJSA49-5 the statute permits the
municipality to impose a fine greater than $1,250 provided there is a 30-day period which allows said uh uh uh said owner to be able to abate And that's the last line within that or that or that um that state statute So it with with with
with uh uh uh contradicting your your um your evaluation of the fact that you know NJSA449-5 it it disallows and we we don't have the authority to take away the judge's ability to impose fines from
a minimum to a maximum Clearly in the ordinance in the last line I mean in the state statute it says that any items that is a zoning violation we can charge in excess of 12 $1,250 We can outline what that fee is going to be and the
judge does not have the ability to override it What we see in Patterson is that the judge often comes and might you know combine fines or dismiss fines In this instance I want owners who have buildings that have 100 units or more to
be charged $100 per unit if they do not provide the required security and provide and and and the necessary surveillance What we're watching here is the administration is trying to block for these uh these developers Um lastly council uh council president a plaintiff
attacking an ordinance This is directly from the state statute I mean I'm sorry This is directly from the court's ruling The court has already ruled on this where NORC had a had a a an or an an ordinance that corporation council is
talking about It was challenged Therefore it is allowing us to lean on the fact that this challenge was won Corporation council is saying because their ordinance has already prevailed we should use exactly what they've written And again I'm not going to reiterate but
our city is different than North Lastly here's here's the the the the language in its entirety Uh well not in its entirety but but you know for the most part A plaintiff attacking an ordinance as arbitrary and unreasonable bears heavy burden First People's Bank versus
Medford Township 126 New Jersey 144 413599A Article 4 Section 7 Paragraph 11 of the New Jersey Constitution provides that any law concerning municipality corporations form for local government
shall be liberally conscreded in their favor In addition the city of Norc its charter under the optional optional municipal charter law NJSA 469A which is completely different than the one you quoted in your um legal uh opinion which
notes that the general grant of municipal power contained in this article is intended to confer the the the the great of of 186 power of local self-governing con consistent with the
constitution ution of the United States which basically outlines C council president that based on Norc's argument they're saying that any municipality has the authority to enact such a um an ordinance It does not have
to mirror Norc's ordinance we can take some elements from Norc's ordinance but from my what my perspective what I'm trying to um uh uh acquire or um accomplish here is making sure that all
of these smaller buildings the ordinance that I wrote starts at four units we can raise it to to five at the minimum but we know that these facilities that that are being built on these corners they're four five seven eight units all up um
Governor Street Carol Street um all within the 44 We see these on a on a 25 by 100 we see four five units that have been built those units If they these developers want to come to our community
and they want to make money in p piling up more residents in a small area they should be held accountable with providing the additional security that these residents need Understood So um uh so council president lastly I'll just say this please unless corporation
council has something that he can you know directly contradict anything that I've just outlined I'm making sure I'm I'm not asking I'm saying this is requiring this this item has been on the workshop agenda multiple times I have no
problem with sitting down with Mr Ben David Um you know he could come to my meeting place I'm not going into their to their office and if he has any issue that he wants to outline or we could communicate via uh email I could function like a a professional Okay And
but this item needs to be on the agenda the upcoming agenda for a vote It's been tabled way too long and now that we only have one meeting a month you're talking about six seven months a year goes by before we get this thing approved So so so thank you Council M But I'm very satisfied to hear that you are willing
and ready to meet with Mr Ben David because that's been a problem Our legal department is here to make sure that we don't get sued to make sure every legislation that we approve will be within the law uh you know so and and and and for me I'm very excited to hear
that that you're going to have that communication I don't believe that if you work close with legal we could come out with a with a a good resolution a good legislation that will help everybody Now let me remind everybody this legislation include private developer that are building to force
them to make sure that they get private 247 security where you have 50% senior but now I don't I don't see that the problem most of those unit that that you see building they have state-of-the-art camera you see those camera in the corner much better than that the one that the city has u and the the the
smart the the the door I mean it has technology at the door c state-of-the-art camera the problem that I see is with in in the housing authority those senior building that I passed by some senior building and they have nobody in the door in the morning in the afternoon at night See if we want
if we want to talk about our senior let's have the conversation really about our housing authority uh Pens Road on Heritage Place in the beginning of the contract they agree to have 24/7 security on Heritage's Place Guess what
they switch into 24 hours a week So now if we want to have this dialogue but I want I I want to continue with the agenda I'm looking forward to have this conversation in another time Just give me a minute Councilman Yak I believe that I give you like enough time You you make your point across and I know you want to meet with me you will meet with
Ben David and I'm willing to collaborate with you But my my my concern comes with with the with the housing authority and those senior building that that have those senior that I don't see the security there were supposed to be So but I got to move out because I know I have no director Mr president according
to the guidelines of how we function I if you're going to rebut anything that I say I definitely I am allowed rebutt you did rebut you you negated I mentioned my part as as a house in my concern I'm just saying that you will meet with Ben David and we could move
forward it's fine I don't need to meet with Ben David to move forward but you don't meet with Ben David that's your councilman it's up to you my point to you is this I'm just recommending that to you don't have to meet with nobody if you want my point to you is this if you just named Penrose who when they go to
zoning and and our directors here now when they go to zoning a part of their application process they're often required to do certain things Sometimes they are required to use trash compactors They're required to provide security We don't have any measure on
the books to hold them accountable when they don't do it this will now if they're getting a fine for $100 per unit on the first infraction $250 for per unit for the second trust me they're going to put these things in place And
further just lastly this I don't need to if corporation council has any concept of anything that I've talked about that's illegal when I'm quoting off what the state statute says that doesn't outline anything that I've written in
this ordinance to be illegal I can have tea and crumpets with Ben David if you want me to but it doesn't change the fact that what I've written is already legal as it stands I I just want to say with all due respect Council Jackson this and I'm closing with this Um I'm
insisting every council members that wants to put a legislation on the floor to have a conversation and guidance for legal because we have to make sure that we are within the law and any piece of legislation I don't want to put the city at rules a risk of a lawsuit That would never happen under my watch as council
president When you see a legislation here it's because been better It's been ready to it's been going through legal and it's ready to be approved That's the only thing I'm going to say If it's not approved by legal it's not on the agenda It's as simple as that Let's move by Let's move by public work So I'm sorry
One question U council mess Yes Just a recommendation 15 is a raffle If we could put that on consent item 15 Let me let me go with public work We And then we Okay No let's go We have a lot Come on We have economic development has a Well I know
the director She's very happy there just real quick So I think um item 37 this just a regular item director for economic development She like to be at our meeting council president Council woman I'm just saying all right I'm still I'm going to say to councilman
Jackson I mean I'm going to correct um I have to correct you about madame clerk and and the secretaries and I think what's happening is that the ladies are coming here to work but they watch and they got to do council meetings See they're not being told I think that they
got to do council meeting And then when and and and then once they get here they see they be here to 1 or 2 o'clock in the night and they're not going to stay They're coming sometimes and we need to get more but they're not staying because they got to do all of this go back the
next day be back to work by 8:30 transcribe the meeting That's a lot That's a lot You don't understand And plus get phone calls plus do the draft do the resolution If I was madam clerk I wouldn't take not not one item from any
department after Thursday Items are coming upstairs on Monday That's horrible They can't handle all this items coming upstairs Monday Friday Let's you know the cut off should be a certain time And I know madame clerk is
looking for ladies but the thing is they might come and they see they watch TV I ain't going to work at no city council office I'm telling you that No I ain't going That's why we're not getting nobody You can say what you Everybody can say what they want to say I don't care I see how those girls I help them
with the phone calls They come in there People call the city council office for every single thing No I'm not agreeing with him with Jackson Yeah but I'm just saying I'm but but but they come here You wait a second
You wait They come here but they don't stay Councilwoman they're not staying That's what I'm saying They're not staying They work two days They're not staying He wasn't knocking Counciloman No No He was knocking me what I was saying Yes he was So I know what he was
saying Tell me what you wait a second I No you wait And I just want to say I know them girls Madam Clerk need to get the secretary Come on Be realistic That's right How is secretary going to sit here to 1 2:00 in the morning then they got to transcribe next day come on
How they going to keep doing it and this like I just want to say and I work with them and they work really hard I feel for them but they got to listen to all of this every other week That's like not easy I wasn't knocking I'm telling you what
they go through I didn't say he was he said they wasn't high You're not even listening The public portion is coming in the middle No public I got one more thing to say You know come on People want to think they want to interrupt You want to come in They not in here They're not up in the city
council They're not here We know we're here Okay But I just want to say Councilman Jackson you have on this resolution you said anything with four more units You kept saying 100 but you got on here four more units That's too impossible Okay that's all What did you say you said four or more units I didn't
say anything Four more units You want 24-hour security with four more units four units Thank you Councilwoman Thank you Let me clarify She asked a question Let me council woman No I'm just saying you got council woman Can you can you can you can can you give me a minute council
woman situation with council members for council Jackson which corporation council says we should just copy No you didn't He his he says I'm saying I'm going talk about
yours I'm talking about mine No you said four or more units Correct That's it That's all So he says we should copy north Well forget about Can you please let me Right I want to hear what you going to say His says 100 The North says
100 Okay I said we should do four Right So if a if a person builds four or more units okay they should be required to put cameras in their building Okay That the police department have access to Mhm And it should be a mandatory
requirement understanding that four units may not be allowable for a 24-hour guard but it should be 24-hour surveillance due to security systems And it should be mandated from four units and above Now that that that's just for
a point of clarity and and and lastly people don't leave the council office because they got to do meetings People leave the council office because they're getting paid $38,000 $40,000 and then they lateral someplace else and
make $70,000 and make double their salary and don't have to do And these women who are working their asses off and we are not giving the racism that you allow Council Jackson Councilwoman I'm sorry Council I'm sorry I'm sorry We got to stop
disrupting the meeting like that We have an agenda to follow Let's go back to the meeting We have public work We have multiple item and we ready to open the public portion Thank you Council Woman Thank you So um so let's go to the director Where's uh Mr Jackson from DPW i know
he's here Mr Billy is down with us but I have our director for economic development the USC director Director you have u there's um you have four item on the agenda Let's go with your item first before we go 25 Item 18 Director
um the UC um council So yes So the first item um if you could just come to the mic both directors just in case The first item is award of a contract The bidding process was followed The um scoring is attached Um we're awarding a
contract to Wells Cleaning Um I'm recommending this is a uh to go on regular It's an award of contract for number 18 Uh number two um is the submission of request to uee uh for the two pocket parks that will be yes for
19th consent for those Okay And then number 20 uh is the same thing Remember we've done the 21st a streetscape in the past The dollars are there We can only utilize the dollars for that consent as well for 20 Okay Item number
60 is the economic development This is for the purchase of uh two vehicles police interceptor utility trucks uh public safety We want those on consent as well But there is one item that will definitely need discussion and
we talked about this in our uh finance tonight and that is on our first reading and I know director item 54 um in our discussion we talked about the state statute and I know that you have problems with this item So director if
you could speak to item number 54 Um entitle zone in Orlando with item uh director with item 54 We have that discussion at the of the finance committee but we we will move we will take this item out because I want more discussion at the committee meeting with you on this item Okay Because we're
going to plug in Yes we will we will remove it out We will send it back to committee Okay Okay So because there's an additional component that we're going to include to match to be in line with the stay on this item Okay Okay And then there's one more item council president item number 55 It's a resolution to
support a um affordable housing Oh yeah I was I was going to that one next Okay Sorry Okay So this one we know Patterson Habitat does a wonderful job Give um the gives people the opportunity to be first-time home buyers and to put some sweat equity into their projects where
they're helping to build their own homes I'm recommending that this item goes on consent as well That it move forward No this is a resolution It's a resol It's a resolution Correct Consent Well 55 is a resolution It's a resolution Go on consent regular You
want It's on consent Okay There's no problem We have it in consent It's consent It's not treated item Um just a second Director Hermus on the item If the clerk can just correct the item on the agenda it says 20 million 31,000 but
the resolution is 2,ion31,000 Right Okay Correct Thank you Council President Yes Just make sure it's not 20 minutes We're going to put it um with the necessary corrections council president that we'll put this item on consent Okay Okay Appreciate those are the only one You
can stay with us director You don't have to leave Okay No problem Thank you so very much Um council members before we continue with public work um um the reason why council me is not with us because he has a death on the family His brother passed away He's out of state um you know with the family also
Councilwoman Dav has been honoring um out of state also as well Um Councilman uh Khalik was in out of state and his flight got delayed He just arriving into Paris So he will be at the next meeting with us Those are the three council members that are not at the meeting and
that's the reason why Okay Council president Council members Um just a recommendation item 15 which is just a raffle if it can go on consent Item 15 15 on consent Um
item 16 consent We go on consent 16 m 15 16 item 17 as we know in the past we talked about uh this is uh myself and council cotton We're honoring the life and legacy of Dr Cecil Dicki on consent but identify that we are the sponsors
and move the item number 17 um 21 through 20 nine uh on consent but there will be conversations with the two
uh with the owner of Habana So Habana is item the honor of Habana the No item number Habana is not is item number 57 Just give me a second We have is item 57 Okay So items 21 through
20 29 m you have if there's any question any concern about item from 21 to 29 all those yard and just renew of license everything will go on consent and um councilwoman the owner of Avan is here and if I may the reason why there was
some question some council member they have some concern about approving the uh the um uh the entertainment license because there's been some complain about the community from Heritage Place about loud music So uh we want to have you present here That was the only concern
that I have so far as a councilman of the third board Um we have a conversation You explained it that it was it was coming from another business So we will follow up Uh but we just want to make sure that you are a good neighbor Yes you we just want to make sure that you operate your business that you provide service to our community but
at the same time that you will be that you will respect your community your neighbor and that you will keep quality of life as top priority uh in your area That's that's what we want Uh we're not here to stop people from doing business in the city We need our local business
uh because they are the one creating job but we also want to make sure that you are a good neighbor uh with our community Thank you and Council President Council Councilman M just to add to that um for all new licenses you and anyone else that's coming new make
sure you put safeguard and parameters in place um bouncers security guards whatever it takes to make sure you're cleaning up around and in front of your property and you respect your neighbors I'm going to I'm going to continue to say that with your music I know you have
your time of operation of your business but be very cognitive if you have parents that have children or there are seniors that live in those areas So we don't need to hear your woofers at like 50 or 25 So just be very cognitive or
when it comes back for renewal there will be deeper conversations So we'll all we'll pass by them I'm sure just to make sure but just stay on top because we support business We want you to do well but we want to make sure that you maintain the quality of service and the quality of life that our residents
deserve Absolutely Thank you C Mr President that would go on consent Councilman Jackson I just want to be extremely careful No you're fine You can go have a seat brother I appreciate it Um just because of some of the uh comments that Councilwoman Mims just made First of all um I I definitely I'm
getting a great amount good amount of text messages I think um director or whomever needs to speak on behalf of the BA's office We should outline for the public why the director of health and human services is holding his chair and why a representative from the BA's office is not there But I'm I'm happy
that you're here tonight cuz normally you try to dip out of here early No no just kidding But um the measure of measuring sound is comes through your office and um this council
worked on these on resolutions on the on on on the resolution quite some time ago that we are required to have devices to measure um sound I mean you know we we're riding a thin line I think corporation council just missed an
opportunity to give some legal advice to uh council mess because she just outlined to the gentleman that if we're going to be if you keep your music if we don't have a proper way of measuring whether or not they're exceeding the decel rate We can't pass along threats
to businesses that we're going to shut them down just because they have their music um at a certain uh uh uh volume We have to be able to measure the decibb and and you know can you give us an update on what's what what's the status with the um we get a great deal of noise
complaints and and we uh this council supported and we supposed to have equipment to measure the decibel levels and what what are we doing we're just violating people's rights Yeah C council president Um what you going to allow him to answer c council members there I mean
know I have council bill de next up but there's a question for the director Joe Herman if you want to comment or answer on that question director the the reason the reason I wanted to speak sorry um I'm sorry director just just a minute uh council de you you question it's the whole thing okay council so um the my
council colleague councilman Jackson mentioned about the ordinance that I um worked with corporation council regarding this ordinance and he he's right councilman Jackson is AB absolutely correct that we hadn't I'm I'm pretty sure I was already correct
but you were always correct All right So Councilman Jackson mentioned about the decibel meter We uh that's true that the ordinance we had about noise ordinance It says if the noise is 85 decibel or higher then the first time we'll issue a
uh warning Second time it would be $500 up to $500 um fine That was the case So we amended this which is now we don't require decibel meter If the noise can be heard from any direction 25 ft distance from any direction from the
source police officer get uh issue issue ticket up to uh $2,000 So there is no needed of any warning or anything So it's 25 feet distance from the source of the noise That's the current ordinance Um thank you director Ramirez and we
approved it that Yes that's true Thank you council president I would have to look um into this a little further We I know the ordinance does mention the health department but you know we don't we're not open after hours so we rely on the police department and on at the discretion of the officer that arrives
So I would have to look to see how many complaints we've received that we've investigated and what the outcome of that has been Very good So through the chair corporation council I'm not aware of what um Councilman Udin is talking about but
when when this ordinance was written we this council does not have the ability or andor authority to override state legislation The state statute had there's a statute that that that outlines how noise is handled This council doesn't have the authority to
override the state statute We did not override Sorry Uh through council president Oh sorry Can I just can I just answer the question we did not So so so and and with all due respect this is a legal question Corporation council
should be the one answering whether or not this the the ordinance that you're speaking of Well he's going to definitely he's going to answer anyway but my what my what the reason I jumped in because we both worked together on this and that's why I can recall it clearly He's working on this so many
rules and regulation every day may not recall everything but I do since I came up with it So what's the statute so what's the state statute i I don't know exactly my head That's why you should let corporation council speak to it Yeah let let him talk That's fine What's the statute i'm asking you what's the
statute when when I when I do I can't I can't recall anything that I do I give you the statute Yes council president That's exactly what I'm saying Uh council president I said I don't know the statue the exact what he says but what I'm because I have to validate when
you No do so no nothing wrong with it I want to look it up to see what the what I'm what I'm trying to say is what I'm trying to say is and I want people to know as well that when I in 2022 when I was elected right I called uh for for the noise issue I called police officer
multiple times they show up people turn the music off they leave so I sit down with the corporation council I that something is not right with the ordinance that when uh police office showed up they turn the music off and police officer do not issue anything The
reason is we found out the reason is when the ordinance says that we the sound has to have 85 decibel uh or more our police officer do not carry that meter that to measure the uh the this the noise So what's the second option
that's what I said That's what I said The second option is the 25 ft distance That's exactly what I'm trying to say So what's the statute that's all I'm asking So Councilman you hear you hear that councilman Dean he doesn't he doesn't have the stat So we should ask legal What's the Absolutely So So I I know I
know Director Romeo Uh but before Director Romeo Councilwoman M you I know you you asked for the floor Yeah So they they can provide the statute But I want to read I want to read our policy Our policy is very clear So when I made the statement I never make arbitrary
statements I made the statement based on this council amending the law Correct Based on the state ordinance state always overrides city that let us know that you did not really need to have in place because we talked to public safety They don't have a decibel reader to
determine the the uh the the loudness of the noise or what is the you know the pitch So in our state co in our code under E360 337-1 it said is the policy of the city of Patterson to prevent
excessive sound which may jeopardize the health welfare or safety of its citizens or degrade the quality of life I said that when I spoke I'm saying it again It is our law I just pulled it up Corporation council can espound if he needs to but this is our law It's on the
books 337 this council amended it because it did talk about 2022 there was in the in the statement a certain decel amount but because we don't have readers we work with public safety it was amended in alignment with the state and we placed it on our books so that's why
I'm saying to all new businesses is not putting the city in liability I'm stating to you as a resident and the legislator of this community and people are watching and they're texting me thank you they don't even know where your businesses are located But I'm sure
anybody sitting in this audience audience or watching agrees They do not want to hear at 12:00 1:00 and 2:00 their their windows shaking right and we don't need a decibel reader to tell us that your music is too loud It's like
when we're sitting in our vehicle and somebody's behind you and you can hear all the words to their their music It's too loud Well said That that's the point I'm making It has nothing New business owners we have to make our statement to
you It is on our books I I am um anticipating that you will be great business owners That's my anticipation that you will do great But we have to put that out there because we get the complaints from the residents and we have to make those phone calls to the police department when they're calling
us at 2 and 3 and 4:00 in the morning Thank you so much Thank you Councilman I have I have Council Member Ding and Council Jackson but item number 56 I know is uh the entertainment license for Roger Green You guys been a great business owner and I know you own a multiple business in the city You are a
great great neighbor for our community and I just want to say thank you Just keep keep doing business on the same direction helping our community and working with your community We never had any problem with you and I know that we will not have problem because you're being very responsible Your idol will be in consent if my council colleague
doesn't have any problem So we will voting next week on your idol So you guys are good Okay And 57 is consent as well Yeah 57 item 57 is consent I just wanted to go over the finance item Appreciate it Thank you right after council Jackson Thank Thank you Council President Again um I'm
not or we are not the legal expert and but we always always we always we come up with the recommendation and sit down with our legal expert corporation council and come up with the ordinance resolution or whatever we need to do have done Um the
ordinance that we we amended in TW in 2022 about the noise uh with that ordinance is is gave actually option for both decibel or 25 ft distance We improved a lot with this ordinance because the police officer do
not require to just prove that it's 85 decibel or higher this uh the noise or um or they they don't have to go and warn them So with that ordinance that they can just go and issue a ticket So with that actually it kept our police
officers uh you know uh decision easier and also uh our neighbors should know at the same time that they can turn off their music at the same time if police police officer can hear the sound from from the distance and they can still go and they can turn their music off still
they can get their ticket So I would say that was that was good one but we all every time we come up with certain things like this we come to the corporation council we we sit down with him and whatever laws allowed that's what comes to the council it's not really we just write it down and comes
here and voted and it just passed the state statute it doesn't work like this so even another one I'm saying that um regarding um another crazy one that I worked with uh the the the parking sizes for the handicap handicap parking sizes
Right So another one that I came up with um our handicap parking sizes were 22 ft and so many applications come in every day like especially in the second word and first word section some sections like every street has like hundreds of
uh handicap parking signs So I went to three other municipalities and found out that their handicap parking sizes are 18 ft I actually measured I videotaped myself that I measured and I came out came back and here and sat down with the corporation council uh can we uh
minimize that number from 22 ft to 18 ft and he actually said give me some time look at the state statue and if it's something to be done I'm ready to do that and we do did that now our parking handicap parking sizes are 18 ft and so we we are saving actually 4T from each
parkings from now so nothing that we come up with and we just write the uh ordinance and we vote for it Not really It goes to the corporation council the expert and they take a look whether something is doable or not by law and then it comes to the chamber and we vote
for it That's the process So again I am a teacher professionally I'm not a lawyer I'm a council member representative legislative body We come up with the recommendation but again we we go by by laws We don't actually break the laws and come here and vote for
whatever we want So again thank you uh council president Thank you councilman uh u councilman Jackson So Councilman Odin first of all let me be clear My intent is not at all to be combative It's more or less to just educate you
and educate everyone in general You may be a teacher but that's not the role you have right now You're a legislator You're a legislator That means you have legislative responsibility within the confines of your legislative responsibility That
means that you must be able to cognitively read and understand the law I don't rely on corporation counsel to tell me He may tell me but I'm going to go research it and look at it to confirm because ultimately when I vote and I
sign on this document it is me It is my vote I am the legislator He's not the legislator So that's the first thing Secondly with regard to the 18 ft see part of our responsibility is holding the administration accountable for
fulfilling what we're writing So you you you came up with a with a pretty decent idea Let's say we're going to reduce parking spaces from 18 to 22 Now what's happening is they're not relocating poles The poles are staying right where they are They're painting it 18 ft So
there's two feet in between handicap spaces that's not painted blue That's not serving the public well So here you are and see it's our responsibility to make sure that they give us reports and
if we don't hold them accountable to the reports So now when it comes to this ordinance right what we're talking about the noise ordinance You're right And it and and I agree with both of you you and Councilwoman Mims it would be more
advantageous if the city did not was not required to provide these measuring devices But here's the thing since you said in 22 and maybe I I was maybe I was I missed that meeting I don't recall
that that item being amended I do recall it being amended probably like in 18 or 17 when Morris and Councilman uh Councilman uh Mendes was here but it was amended then and during that time Dominic Stampon was the corporation
council and it was outlined which I verified that according to the state statute this is what it had to be Now if the state has changed I'm all in favor of that But guess what if you change the ordinance in 22 then where's the reports on how many tickets have been written on
on uh uh noise violations we we know that the city they violate noise every single day So where has where's the tickets if you're saying that you you you can't you say I I I you amended the ordinance you got it approved through
the council where's the where's the effectiveness where's the reports from this from corporation council from the BA's office from the mayor stating this is how many from Jerry Spizzy These are how many violations we've written since
22 I can guarantee you that it hasn't changed So what's the point we're sitting here saying "Oh I did this I did I want to sponsor I want to sponsor." We got a whole bunch of names on a piece of paper with no effectiveness to the community because this council is not
holding the administration accountable Um council members So um in couple of minute we're going to start the public portion Um so let's let's get into our public work Um so public work has item from 37 all the way to 49 I know the um
um yes I know he left and Billy he's not here he's you know he's out council president exactly director so I we have our engineer here just in case I know public the DPW committee met so item 37 uh which is a resolution establishing a
process of administration and inspection of the federal funding trans just based on looking at all the items I think all of these items items um can go on consent Yeah So uh counc all the items could go on consent from 37
through 489 I just want to gain understanding on 49 the rejection of the bids for um for the recycling facility which I don't need today but you can put it on consent and I'll reach out to item number 49 is a resolution authorizing
rejection of old bid and authorizing solicitation of a new bit to remove uh and transport recycling scrap I know council me was at the committee if you have any uh council person Yes So this uh last item uh so if we do not have
question from 37 to uh 48 all of them are resolutions are I think we all are okay with this but James is here on behalf of the public works to answer any question 49 just we added just over the uh conversation over the phone so I think he can he can do give in-depth uh
answers so I think let's have the conversation now and so you can make decision whether it's going to go regular or consent James is here the engineer is here right I I don't really need a conversation because it's not it's just a a rejection and a rebidding So I don't really need that I can reach out to you in the
office Like I'm okay Any council members has any question yeah I I'll call him I'll call him privately I don't need to have a and and and uh so item from 37 to 49 they all consent Those are regular business from uh public work But let me
just item 44 is a resolution authorizing an extension of time uh for substantial completion of the Vera M community park Uh so that's uh and that was um related We had a conversation about our building
department So I won't move on It's just on consent Um that'll be a conversation for another day Um um thank you to our engineer u just for being here Now we're going to start public portion members of the public Item 50 Did we say 50 no Item
50 We already mentioned 50 to go on consent on consent council 51 on consent and 51 It's a resolution approving 2025 proclamation to improve for improve the American healthc care system in P County That could go on consent Council member
if there's no other question on that and then um 62 we could do that on regular 52 Um I'm okay with item 62 is a resolution um to rename Caraton Drive um to sign your sponsored by council So
let's put it on regular We did You want regular yeah put put 52 on regular I think it should be 52 regular 62 on regular 62 Council member 62 62 regular Councilman you have item 58 and 59 Uh you can put on on consent Yes
Wait wait a minute Poor fab Oh my god Okay You want these on where spanish consent Okay Consent Yeah Okay Um so we have we good with second reading Number 17 I want to change that to regular uh you want to openly honor uh
council Just a minutes Item 17 is a resolution honoring and memorializing legacy of Dr Cesaly You want to regular yes Okay Madam clerk Item 17 from consent to regular Hi Mark regular and item number 10 to 14
Um wait a minute Okay So council president um before just want and then um the second readings we could move both of those forward Second reading we good command clerk and and then the others we got to talk about So so we have first reading seven and eight Uh
council Jackson Um just for a point of clarity and um I'm so excited that these meetings are always consistently being recorded This was sent from a me member of the public um and it's current and in fact they sent me the link the New Jersey Noise Control Act of 1971
codified NJSA13 etc authorizes the NJ D to establish sound level standards which daytime standards at 65 dB and nighttime standards at 50 dB measured at the property line of the affected person There is no possible way that we can measure decibel levers unless there's
the appropriate equipment I don't know what Councilman Odin is talking about and I'm not sure whatever corporation council is talking about but the state statute has not changed It's still the same Right So we continue council me Uh
number nine consent council members Number number nine consent Number 10 consent 11 consent C council member So number 10 is a resolution
authorizing a war of contract to PNG on consent 11 resolution authorizing the city of Patterson to enter to count the county One second 12 Number 12 resolution authorizing a work contract with purchase of copy paper Number 12 is
consent And then number 13 is if we can have our CFO speak to number 13 Let's do those two Let's move with um let's take care of public portion is 820 um 820 Uh so we come back after public portion with you Mr CFO to talk about
item 13 which is resolution authorizing the reading of calendar year 2025 by title only and the item 14 is a resolution authorizing the calendar year 2025 emergency temporary appropriation Number eight Eight Number eight could move forward So that way we don't have
Number eight is the U municipal IDs We're increasing the fees for that That can move forward Director Ramirez the municipal ID Uh we still having the the So we still have the operation at the health department the first floor Yes sir It is still at Health and Human
Services at 125 Ellis Okay Okay And then do we have any data of how many municipal ID we um we're producing throughout the month are people are requesting those those ID We do a few hundred a few hundred a week Okay It's important Patterson to let everybody
knows that in the city of Patterson we have those municipal ID If you live in the city of Patterson and you need an additional ID you could go to the health department first floor at the end uh at the right side there's an office there and you could request your municipal ID uh with proof of address and your
picture uh they will produce an ID for you and I know it's going to be very helpful for a lot of our panasonian that very often time need an additional approve uh uh you know an additional ID so it's there and it's functioning and we also approing dollars as well
councilwoman Mims um item 32 first of all I want to commend director Ramirez and your department item 32 I wanted to be on consent um when this came up last time I made a request that we send out communication to our seniors so that they know that there is um gift cards
and things that are available to ensure that they can get um uh access to the farmers market So I'm really excited about that I have another idea that we can expand it with our great brothers produce um on rail would a so I would like to have a discussion in regards to
that so we can expand it not just to them but to a few other entities for our seniors to be able to get that So for this one um it could be our consent Yes Thank you uh some members of the public We're going to start a public portion Council Jackson is that is that a grant
or something she's outlining that we're buying gift cards for 32 Yeah 32 is the senior nutrition program that they've been doing for a while So when we they brought it up last year I was saying I'm not sure how many seniors were aware So they did a a great job with like making
sure cuz the seniors um what's our lady's name hilda Hilda um they go to the uh fifth a Riverside vet So a lot of those seniors were given the information out and then they sent so it has expanded So so we're going to utilize how much of a grant to buy how many how
much are we spending uh he would have to say how much council president director Ramirez So it's the senior wick program through the state of New Jersey Um it's not a grant It's an everyone who comes to either our senior center on Fifth A Riverside Vets or to my office at 125
Ellison and meets the eligibility requirement they will be issued the voucher and there is a list of vendors in the county where they can go and and then purchase their vegetables Understood And Brothers Produce is currently on the list Very good Thank you Council President Also um with
regard to with regard to the IDs are residents are they required to provide a um an address um President yes you must provide proof of identification which could be an expired um ID or it could be a passport
or uh we we have a list and we do have administrative discretion and they have to provide a passport doesn't have an address on it No for the address there's a list of things just like you would go to DMV uh PSENG bill cell phone bill So so there's not a situation where an
organization is utilizing their address to register all the there could be shelters and programs to help the homeless can authorize but a shelter is a space that someone is staying in Correct But like let's say Kent
is and I'm not I don't know if they are or not I'm just asking like organization like Kentock they don't have a shelter there So if no one lives there they can provide a letter authorizing the individual to use that address as a mailing address Seven's moving forward
Okay Okay Okay All right And then last but certainly not least I know I'll just Thank you C Jackson Thank you Sitting up for the finance chair tonight but number seven can move forward as well on first reading How many speaker do we have we're not we're not moving anything else Let's do the public portion and then we come back So I would really want to make
sure that we take care of the community that way we could conduct city we could continue our city business How many speaker do we have we have 12 speakers We have 12 speaker Um before I call the first speaker let let me remind every resident that is here You have three minutes to address the address the council and the administration Please do
it respectfully and no profoundly in the chamber Let let's let's represent our city the best way we can with with respect and dignity Um um after the three minute I will respectfully ask you to uh move and allow the next speaker to use to utilize the three minutes Madame
clerk let's call the first speaker The first speaker is Jason Chavez Thank you Jason Would you please state your name and address my name is Jason Chavez My address is 220 Lynwood A Patterson New Jersey There you go My name is
Allesandro Chavez live in the same place And my name is Kevin Chavez as well Can you speak also to my name is Kevin Chavez and we also all live in the house We are three of five brothers that grew up here in the city
of Patterson We have a business here in the city of Patterson that's registered here in the city of Patterson The business here is a soccer academy Okay And is registered here in the city of Patterson Where when we were
younger we registered to the Patterson Soccer Recreational Program but we never got calls We never got told to come to a practice We never got told "Hey come to this field do this." We never got told any information about soccer
recreational program nothing like that So we what we resorted to was to go to other towns We couldn't play soccer here in the city of Patterson the sport that we grew up playing and the the sport that we love And we have kids in our
academy that come here from the city of Patterson They take buses they take Ubers they take taxis just to go to the town that we're renting out a field in And it's not fair for our coaches It's not fair for my coaching staff for all
the players all the parents to make this sacrifice just for their kids to play soccer Here in the city of Patterson you guys do have a rec a soccer recreational program in Pennington Park but from what we see there's already problems going on there For one we already have people
calling them out saying that it's not a recreation program more a travel competitive soccer club As we see as well in the soccer league and the soccer website you can see as well search up on NCSA or EDP soccer that UniS Samba Recreation is
marked down as a recreation team but it's not but there is a travel team Only travel teams can play They're not recreational teams What we're proposing is to use Buckley Park as a recreational space for people that want to play soccer a soccer recreational program
like they have in towns such as Clifton they have in Fairfield they have in Wayne they have in Toa Little Falls and etc But here in Patterson they don't have a functional soccer recreational program What we want to do is provide a
free soccer recreational program here in the city of Patterson Cuz it's not fair that every other city has a recreational soccer league a recreational soccer program but here in the city of Patterson we don't have nothing And it's not fair for the kids that want to learn
soccer And on top of that we're also producing our business here that we want to bring here that right now we're only doing it in Clifton because they're giving us fields in Clifton What we want to produce is Patterson's first soccer academy the first ever here in
Patterson And if you want to talk to us more we have uh information that you can talk contact What school you guys from thank you I'm council school No high schools High school East side East side Yes Go orange and blue Go ghost council president Um
just just a minute I know we start I know we start the poly portion and and we address everybody at the end but it's it's amazing what you guys came to just express over here I know you calling the attention of all the council members here So please make sure we you get all the we get all the information that you
came that you have with us Counciloman Yes So I met and first of all I want to commend you for the work that you're doing We need recreational opportunities um in our community As an educator a mom and a grandmother I totally believe and
making sure that there are opportunities for all of our children in the city of Patterson So I took your information I gave you the direct uh number to reach out for tomorrow because I know you've been trying to reach the mayor So call that call the number I gave you tomorrow so they can set up a meeting with you so
that we can get this done sooner than later It's summer coming Our youth need more recreational opportunity in the city So I commend you Thank you so much You're orange and blue So I gotta support you I'm council president
Thank you Have a good So So you guys are running a a business correct yes And that is correct The city of Clifton they give you a field Do they charge you for this field yes Right now we're paying out of pocket for the field So So So when you say you're paying out of pocket you have a business So are you working
individual jobs funding your business or is your business are you working individual jobs so you're working individual jobs paying a fee so you can provide free services for the kids in Patterson that that should be noted That should be noted Okay And and you don't
have access to a field in Patterson So you have to go to Clifton and actually pay What are they charging you for the field right now the field that they're charging us in is $200 per hour And we we do And we do practice five days a week So
each day we have to rent the field out for at least two hours cuz we have over 200 kids which 75% come from the city of Patterson And and 100% of your kids come free or you charge kids from other areas We have the free clinic which runs from 5 to 6 which is totally free That's what
we want We don't want to call it recreational yet because Clifton already have their recreational program Okay We were calling it a free clinic until we move it to the city of Patterson where we could actually call it a soccer recreational program because that's what we want to do for the city that we grew up in And then from 6 to 7 is the
academy pro portion of the practice Okay Understood So so you and I will talk further Let me just say this So I played sports all my life I actually got paid to play That gentleman sitting behind you was a mentor of mine Taught me in high school how to throw football I was
I was by far an excellent um uh student of the game Anyway my father's coached here He's never He's always paid to coach We don't have any free recreation We do have free recreation Let me not say that But our recreational programming is minimal because our
budget for recreation is so small So that is part of my plan moving forward Every kid to your point should never have to pay We should be outfitting them with uniforms We should be paying you guys So we will be paying coaches to provide the service paying you guys to
conduct uh not not only seminars but to coach our kids So we'll talk Mr Olar has gotten your your information and I I think you guys are coming here very humbly which I respect but you do not need to do that You're working private jobs providing a free service for the
city of Patterson You should be coming in here raising all kinds of hell telling this mayor why haven't they allowed given you a field so you could provide that services for our community We have we have to we have to continue the pulley portion council president
just quickly So as we are on live the director of DPW who is responsible for the fields um I just gave the number he said call him on his personal cell phone and they'll set it up to make the arrangements Okay Thank you Thank you and kids listen uh you guys have our
full support You should not be paying for to play sport and definitely we should be supporting you with resources for you guys to continue playing and bringing kids you know uh you know to play soccer and and different activities I can kick the ball God bless you guys you know great job you know you got full
support Thank you Next speaker madam clerk for your time Thank you Abolita Thank you grandma The next speaker is Sunnit Parker He said that I hope I pronounced that correctly He said that I'm sorry Who's
the He said that Who's the next speaker sunnit Parker They left They left Left Next speaker They left Okay Next speaker is Ken Tapeda No Ken
Next speaker is Joel Keys Jr Okay No they left They left Yeah they were part of the um I got it ready State your name please and address Joe Be Patterson Before you start my time I want to disclaimer Uh to
Councilman Condolences to you and your family Sorry for your loss cuz a major portion of my speech is directed at Councilman So it's business not personal All right I'm ready At the last meeting the speech I
gave titled Freedom of Speech or Civil Disobedience served as a distraction by Councilman Uden that prevented me from addressing Council President Mendes and Councilman Valz for their continued practice of ego defense mechanisms at
the March 4th meeting Council President Mendes reinforced the deception of colorblind racism by restating that talking about racism is dividing people Therefore at the next meeting I will
reread the rebuttal speech I gave at an earlier meeting which includes the following excerpt Quote "Unchallenged racism is what divides people That's reality On the other hand it is a
defensive distortion of reality to project that the person who talks about racism is dividing people." unquote Councilman Valz reinforced the portion of the ego defense mechanism's definition for projecting narcissism
when he assumed a puritanical sense of ethical superiority and innocence by reading the contents of a proposed censure of Councilman Jackson Councilman Veles hypocritically claimed a puritanical sense of ethical superiority
and innocence because although Councilman Jackson has said egregious things about him Councilman Valz has said equally egregious things about Councilman Jackson For example at the
council meeting on August 16th 2022 Councilman Valz retaliated to an insult from Councilman Jackson and said quote "I'm waiting Councilman Jackson Yo you probably brag about your education but your education you know where is it like
your hair no hair Your education is like nothing no hair," unquote You retaliated but later that night you threatened to press charges against Councilman Jackson for ridiculing how you speak English Once again hypocritically assuming a
puritanical sense of ethical superiority and innocence in the process of demonizing Councilman Jackson Councilman Vez once you retaliate all innocence is lost By the way Mims Kh and Menddees are
in the same boat as Councilman Veles They retaliate with insults towards Councilman Jackson then complain about his attacks against them while assuming a puritanical sense of ethical superiority and innocence in the process
of demonizing Councilman Jackson In the words of Councilman VeZ and Councilman Mims go check the videos of the past meetings and tell me if I'm lying Thank you Perfectly done Next speaker Madam Clerk
The next speaker is Anthony Wheeler Mr Wheeler please state your name and address Thank you My name Anthony I was about to I didn't even know how I wanted to come up here You feel me i debated about it but sometimes you can't even debate You just got to come I ain't
got no paper I ain't got no phone But I know off the rip Don't none of y'all represent the city of Patter with Mr Jackson That's it You feel me i got a This is charade up here You trying to quote the Constitution You don't know this You feel me you don't know it So don't try to quote it So when it
comes down to freedom of speech it goes like this bro Long as I'm not threatening you I can say whatever the I want to say Just like that That's the constitution of freedom of speech Freedom of speech protects you against me saying threatening things to you But if I want to go up here and ridicule
y'all I can say the I want to say because I'm free It's called what uh to the republic I'm sovereign Acknowledge us who we are Right so that's I'm going to get that part out the way Coming to y'all y'all could say "Oh you gotta go
that way You gotta go that way." No we could come to y'all for every thing we want to come to y'all for because that's why y'all here Before y'all got here y'all came to tell us say "Yo come vote for me I'm for y'all Vote for me I'mma do this for y'all." You get
here and do Do nothing You worry about budget That put budget before people Everything is about money over here Money is "Oh we got to go do take the budget." He just said something about like "Yo these people that came over here why they not here?" You say it
every every week Oh it's about the money People got to get paid So we got to make sure we get them But he just told you like yo it's discretion going on You not acknowledging that But it's money cuz you a part of the money scheme All y'all part of the money scheme That's why you
here looking for a better part to get in a part of better part of the money You feel me but I'm saying this if you here work for us y'all got stores out here that y'all can invest in Y'all got landlords out here y'all can invest in Y'all don't do none of that Y just
say y'all control audience Everything that comes in Patterson Britain legal it comes through y'all Y'all got to say if that right or wrong It comes like like if y can you can start No it come through I know all this This is where it
comes down from federal down to the local Where do local start right here not up there So when we come in here start speaking y'all supposed to take that and show us like how we can get it done where they can get it done Not trying to tell them to go that way Got
give them more information where they can use I don't do none of that So while I'm here I'm going to be the tip man for the council I'mma hold y'all accountable I'mma blast you on TV I'mma talk crazy about you until you fix your
Serve Patterson not your agenda That's it Yes speaker Madam clerk Yes Next speaker is Eddie Oliviveres Eddie Olivarees Um Patterson resident As is often the case I I come
here and I already have a preconceived notion of what it is that I'm going to talk about But once I hear all of this stupidity that comes out of this council then everything goes out and I got to address a lot of the stuff that is
said Dr Mims every time that we talk about the budget you talk about that we must pay our employees Everyone here agrees with you I agree with you The entire city of Patterson agrees with you Let me tell
you where it is that we do not agree with you It's $11 million 11 something $6 million goes to uh to to paying the employees We don't really care about those $6 million Put it to the side We
want you to talk about the $4 million that you're not talking about and you're shoving down my throat That's what I want you to talk about That's the problem I have with you And
so I I was very surprised when I saw my my friend uh Joelle here And again that's not what I came here to talk about But when I see that it tells me how broken this city is This
administration has no resources when we have to take the director from public from um uh public health and fill in for the BA we have a problem and it's with your consent The
only person there that holds the administration account is Councilman Jackson The rest of you is Yes Yes Yes Yes If you see that we have a problem Omar just got there Just got there And I hope you're paying attention A lot of
the stuff that I'm going to say tonight uh pertains to you Um Councilwoman Cotton is always talking about how she helps people And at the last council meeting she says something to the effect that she's not going to stop Ma'am I'm not asking you to stop I'm asking you to
stop talking about it because that's not what we pay you to do We don't pay you to do that We pay you to run the city the raccoons the whatever else it is Listen it will do you a world of good
Omar It will do you a world of good to go to Facebook and look at a post that was uh put up by uh Miss Morris Darling Morris In a nutshell she tells you exactly what your job is because you
don't know And you know where she got that from from the city charter Omar everything you do on that council should come from that charter Read it If you need help with that I will get you a copy and I will sit down
with you and I will read it That's bigger madam clerk Next speaker is Allan D Jefferson Mr Jefferson Hi Mr Vernon Oh my god I haven't seen you in a while man Yeah Mr Vernon
Mr Jefferson kindly state your name and address Thank you Uh good evening member uh council members Uh Allan Daniel D an i Jefferson Jr
81 Seavoy Drive apartment 2 Prospect Park New Jersey 07508 Now I came here tonight uh I wanted to jump on somebody but I'm not going to do that I'm going be respectful
tonight Okay But one person is here Now last week I was at the meeting A couple of people took out of context what I was talking about I
invited Mrs men to come outside so I could talk to her Everybody took it out of context and nobody corrected it Now when is somebody going to correct
it all you are sitting here I'm waiting Now I guess nobody's going to correct it huh i did I do Mike we got your back Don't you ever think we don't Okay
this community we got your back And anybody that don't like it like I said last week you know let the chips fall where they may because the city is suffering
The mayor's got people sleeping right on his porch and he don't even recognize it Now tell me if I'm lying Our children are
suffering I commend these young ladies I commend those young men that came in here because they want to do something cuz they live here Not in Clifton not Pake not Little Falls not Totala They
live in Patterson We need something for our kids Now when are we going to wake up when money we always talk about money Okay Uh
Miss Riley and this young lady here I'll volunteer my time to help you I don't need to get paid cuz I already got paid I already got paid And my son Allan Jr I'm no Allan
III master sergeant 21 years of service My son Andrew 20 years as a parole officer So the apple don't fall far from the tree
Come on we need to wake up Let's get busy okay and stop the gang banging Next speaker Madam Clerk He spoke already The next speaker is your mic on it's on now It's on now Sorry Yes Thank
you My name is Joseph Hart born Pattis New Jersey 1964 August 24th This is my city my town I'm a OG Now I could swear in all this stuff but I'm not going to do that Sometimes I lost my job of 29
years when that co crack crap came out But you know I'm trying to get help and stuff like that But what I like to see be done I'm not here to bash any g I would like to see more parking authority issue tickets out to this
legal parking crap downtown They don't there's no respect The yellow lines are being crossed by cars park up on the sidewalk I take transit bus every day They got turned on the other sidewalk It's going to be accident happen
sometime the sheriff or police car by the pizzeria on Ellison Street They'll they'll park there and they'll try you know haunt horn the horn for them to come out and they don't Me if I did something like that I would got a ticket back in the days and buy the Broadway
pizza on West Broadway and smoke shops and all that And then where's the pedestrian walking by McDonald's and all this stuff i got across that Then you got the many motorbikes All that pisses
anguish me Okay And it's not right It's not right I hate it I cut some people out when they park in the transit for the bus I'm like yo there should be more officers out here giving them tickets I
mean everybody got parking ticket when the meter ran up out but the illegal parking the cross zones people in the wheelchair regardless what they condition is it's not right It's not fair But that's all I got to say right
now There'll be other things I might complain about but um God bless all y'all Y'all be safe That's all I got to say All right Thank clerk Okay I'll try to pronounce his name It looks as if
it's Rupa Abdul I don't know He left He left Okay He left Okay The next speaker is Victor Orbezz He left as well He left He was part of the There no more speakers Motion to close Be not moved to close Move Motion to close
Excuse me Victor What's your name i don't I don't have that name Victoria Victoria Maybe he's mistaking Victor for Victoria Maybe Victor for Victoria I mean you're the you're the last speaker so let's start your three minutes and I removed my motion Um so I think that's
my issue Give us a second ML clerk She's Victoria Victor Sir it's Victoria I I definitely sign I see I just see a Victor I don't see Okay no problem If you sign now not a problem We We'll give you you three minutes So let's start the clock So Okay Welcome So I've been
complaining two years now my neighbor running a plumbing business from his driveway Um illegal apartments and basement He's got numerous parking and zoning uh zoning violations Um as far as the court
date I don't know if if zoning is going to ever take him to court because it seems like this court date Can Tiffany can you help me out with that because I've been complaining
for two years Okay The second thing um I have the police have been very helpful and um they have told me with uh whenever I call to complain when he has harassed me when he has threatened me I have seven police report I have seven
police reports with what he has um with the threats harassment I have videos So I was told to take him to court take him to court Guess what i did try to take him to court So um the wife who have
I've never spoken to in my in my life she filed a complaint against me saying I was harassing her by calling zoning and the police I have I have spoken to police There there are numerous zoning
violations and there are numerous parking violations committed every single day I probably have like a thousand pictures I have been posting them on Paris Plus So um the wife who filed this complaint with no proof zero
evidence she gets a court date four court court dates to try to you know pro provide evidence No evidence So I was told I'm like "Okay they accepted my complaints I should get a court date." I'm told I should I I'm told it's
recommended that I go to remediation against someone who has threatened me for the past two years who has harassed me Why does why do they get a court date four court dates but I it's suggested that I go to remediation So I
don't even get assigned a prosecutor to show my evidence to present my side corporate council I believe I spoke to you about this So I'm hoping I get my date in court too And I'm hoping I can get a
prosecutor to show my evidence Councilwoman Councilwoman Councilwoman Councilwoman let her finish her three minutes please Yeah I have not agreed to any remediation but I do know the person who I thought they have rel
they have a relative in the city of Patterson Maybe if I had a relative in the city of Patterson my court Okay I would get a court date Thank you Motion to close Um move moved by Councilman Mims Second
by Council Rahee Roll call Madame Cler to close the public portion Roll call to close the public portion Councilwoman Cotton Thank you Madam Clerk Um I know a lot was said tonight and um you know being on the city council
I've been here um since 2012 I think that what has happened is after CO hit in 2020 we we we still are lingering with CO um the effects of what CO have done to this country not just Patterson New
Jersey but to this country to this world Um I don't know how many people have lost their lives My husband was one of them But it hasn't affected a lot And and I think that when people say your role our role has switched Our role is
not what it what it should be But people come to all of us for to be guided somewhere Where where can I go where can I where can I get help where can I whether it's the county whether it was
um the state level where is even if it's on the federal level Um I was getting phone calls about they have a program to help people pay the electric and gas Um and then I then I got uh Senator
Wimberly was able to um get the same program I'm not sure if it's called SAFE or whatever to help people with their water bill um during co nobody could be shut off for
nothing It probably lasted almost two and a half years where people probably could have paid something and they hadn't paid anything Um because even though they knew that they didn't have to pay but the government didn't say you were exempt
that you didn't have to they they couldn't cut you off So there's a lot of things and I I just know that um for those that don't know me I've been in this city for a long time There's a lot of people out here
that done done a lot of good things for a lot of people Um I know one thing is that my kids better not come to that mic and act like a fool I can tell you that And you know they better not you
know especially talking to other people you can't you can't cuss people out Why people think it's okay to cuss people out when you really don't know who they are you don't even know them Is it okay i wish my child would do that You know
let me tell you something I got a uh a message and I saw it as you know and I say to parents you know how your children are Don't think that you don't You know what they do You know when they acting up You know your
child I had a parent that called me and then I had to refer her to her child got a picture from somebody with a gun pointing at her child Like how you do that like and then you don't see nothing
wrong with it like something there's a lot of stuff going on and people can say what they want but and I can say I think all of us but Councilwoman Miz especially the calls that come through I'm saying since co of
2020 if you were able to survive and now when I look at this country and I look at the world and I look that we live in New Jersey and we haven't had tragedy like in other parts of this country You know what it is it's not
funny Can you imagine a storm coming through Patterson New Jersey and everything is down Everything is flat Don't have just nothing You know I think about stuff like that So I'm going to continue to do help who I can whatever I
can because you know what i'm not going to let nobody take my joy and my blessings from me I don't give a damn how much you want to talk about me I know what I do for people I know how I help And we all know what we do So don't
say when you don't know someone but there's so much that we can guide oursel Um I tell our young people they don't need laborers no more They don't need sweepers I need you to go get a CDL I need you to go and and and and learn how to be electrician I
need you to go learn how to be a carpenter I need you to go to learn how to have a skill You don't necessarily have to go to college but just have a skill Um because they're looking for We don't have those good jobs like we had before We don't have no biscos We don't
have Ford Motor Companies Those people made money that they bought a house They sent their kids to college They were able to go on vacation We don't have those jobs around here like that Unless you got a college degree now maybe and you got a trade So with that being said madame
clerk like I always say to you I'm going to do whatever I can to help y'all in that office Uh Deputy Clerk Phyllis Dietra I see how hard you ladies work And um we got to just push to get you the help that we need but they got to know they got to do council meetings and
everything else with it So I appreciate you ladies I truly appreciate you cuz I see everything you do and you're going to be very busy So with that being said my vote is yes Thank you Councilwoman The public portion Thank
you Councilman Jackson Thank you Madam Cler Sorry And brother Keys you you can probably help me with this better than than I cuz there there's from my perspective there's two kinds of people You have creative um people who figure things out and you
have people who memorize things I'm not my memory doesn't serve me that great I won't remember your birthday I'll remember the things that happened But um there's a quote that talks about um uh how the media will
villainize the um the the noncriminal and make the criminal look like the uh the victim And uh it's very unfortunate because if we at this time
we don't understand what our city is producing See there's a level of accountability that always has to be in positions of authority where people step forward to take a position of authority There's a level of accountability First of all I I never
met the young man Today was my first time meeting him I did see him on social media he was popping off about something and I went and corrected him about certain things We had a bit of a a a debate so to speak but he still came to the mic and said what he said But he
that he's not a child He's a grown man with a with an opinion an opinion of what he is experiencing what he is living through If he came to the microphone and he only understands how to project himself in a certain with a
certain dialect it doesn't mean that he doesn't know what he's talking about And further all you got to do is watch turn on YouTube You don't even have to really look at TV Go to YouTube and look at uh uh Congresswoman Crockett look at
Congresswoman Green All of them are using profanity on the congressional floor Profanity is a choice that people have utilized that we want to f we don't want to hear what you're saying We don't want
to listen to what you're talking about We don't want to hear the issue We want to spotlight the fact that you came here to utilize profanity and you're talking negatively about me Listen that's it's part it's it's part of the job It comes with the territory If you take this job
you have to be willing to take the scrutiny that comes along with it Especially when you're failing and we we we I'm not excluding myself We are failing this city All you got to do is drive around the city and you know we're
failing the city If you're telling me that this city is better today than it was eight years ago then you're a lion through your teeth or you're blind one or the other You know Dr Dr Claude Anderson came here He was at my establishment We walked around I forget
what church Um uh Sister Gre you were there cuz we were over there near St Augustine someplace He came outside He's not from here He started crying He was like "My people don't deserve to live like this." Now many of you heard me
fighting tonight If anybody feels that the ordinance that I'm trying to write has something directly to do with me is a benefit to me then please by all means inbox me text me tell me I'll leave it alone Here
I am fighting struggling to write an ordinance to benefit the many people that are placed in these precurious situations of living in these terrible conditions corporation council should be partnering with me to make sure it happens The rest of the council they
want to push it forward No no no If he don't sign off on it he it's not his responsibility We can approve legislation that he doesn't sign off on We He does have the ability the requirement to research but he could tell the council guess what if the
council says we want to paint all the the the lines in the middle of the street green and yellow cuz we do it St Patty's Day we do it We want to paint him pink He not he doesn't have to sign off on it The council approves it It's still going to get done It's the same thing But see people are here They don't
understand their role They don't understand their responsibility So what's happening is they're able to run a muck because this council is not doing its job because we don't understand our jobs We think we just got to come and we speak the language Uh seeing none move
to close Uh madam clerk can may I have a motion that's not that's not what's required You don't have to necessarily understand the language to be responsible in the voting and the actions that's taken taken place by the
council So it's rather disappointing but it's not a surprise In fact if if this council functioned half as as as it's supposed to it wouldn't look so bad out in the city It wouldn't be so bad out there We have I
have a mother a Dominican woman who her she she had a one her one one of her sons was murdered The other one was shot He w he he didn't lose his life Then her daughter was recently she she decided to
homeschool them But you know they're they're uh seniors in in high school and they were trying to make a few extra dollars The girl was taking on some Instagram stuff and you know doing um hair for people They came to the house
robbed them at gunpoint with masks This the city we live in This the city that we're doing such a phenomenal job in The city that we don't have a BA The city that the BA left out making $150,000 and did nothing for the city
the city that's paying the current BA 160,000 to work part-time not to show up at council meetings a interim BA who's part-time with two assistant BAS that the former BA reassigned to these other
departments in a retaliatory condition When did you hear this council say something the council then lined up and with me after the BA left talked about how horrible she was after she's pimped the city out for the last seven and a half eight years But this is what we're dealing
with And then we come here and instead of scrutinizing the mayor we want to scrutinize the young man that comes in and and says "You guys are up." Oh I'm sorry You know what i apologize because I promise I would not do that Miss Laura girls I
apologize but but people coming to the podium and expressing themselves that way is not a violation They have a constitutional right a freedom of speech to express themselves the way they want to the way they feel And because of the
conditions is that's the way they feel And if they come here and expressing themselves that way and their concerns are not heard then guess what everything they say on the on the microphone is validated because this council does what it does Right So in in closing
corporation council please I would I I'm going to need a report on the noise ordinance that Councilman Udin says was re amended As I look it up it still specifically talks about decibel levels You cannot go to someone's home and say "Oh it's too loud." If the state
ordinance says there's a decibel level requirement I don't understand and maybe you can outline for me how exactly it's being um um you know uh perceived or or interpreted but the from the way I see
it it's an unlawful act If any officer writes a ticket for a person that violates the noise ordinance and it's not done in a specific way all they have to do is be a person that's going to read the law They don't need an attorney They can go there and dispute it and
it's clear it's the case is going to be dismissed So if Councilman Houdin wants to be responsible he can ask for the administration to provide reports on how many people had received summones based
on the current ad h amended ordinance which I would conclude I would venture to say there was none Zero So where's the effectiveness of this council zero We write ordinances We we we you know you understand we do certain
things and zero zero is done But we celebrate and we we name the streets We doing all this Anyway um I I don't do that I don't heckle I mean I listen when the truth cuts like a
blade Like some um Sister Moore said today when you throw a stick in a in a in a crowd of dogs the one that yelps is the one that got hit I'm not say I'm just stating the facts the obvious And if there's anything that I'm stating that's incorrect I would be the first to
apologize and resend retract my statement But if it's not then you just saying is wrong don't mean it's wrong You need proof Corporation council can't just say what I wrote it it goes against the premises of the law He has to
produce a state statute a ordinance or a federal guideline that outlines why what I wrote does not meet the requirements of the law And I believe what I presented showed in fact that what what I wrote in fact does line up with the
accordance of the law And with that being said madame clerk my vote is yes Thank you Councilman Councilwoman Mims So very seldomly I get to do a little uh educating from this side and I think tonight we'll allow that to take place
So first and foremost as I always do every week I want to thank the public that is present and the public that is viewing And I want you to really hear this because when we were younger there used to be a little commercial or show
that talked about um being on the steps of the White House with Bill right so you had the bill and he would talk about the three branches of government So I just want to give just a educational civics 101 lesson We as the city council are the
legislative body We create legislation or laws and ordinances or resolutions Then you have the executive branch which is the administr administration They enforce that which is created on the books amended That is
their role And I know a lot of times we get blamed for the the executive branch which is outside of our purview When you give us a call we will make those calls to the administration and to the directors But that is the executive
branch Then you have the judicial And I want to talk about a few things that happens after we create legislatively city council after it's enforced by the administration Then you have the judicial The judicial interprets the laws that are written They settle legal
disputes They punish violators of the law They hear civil cases They protect individual rights granted by the state constitution They determine whether someone is guilty and are innocent They have a setup in the courts with
mediators and prosecutors and and public defenders and all these people And then you have the right to a public defender or you can hire your own legal counsel That is your right But I just wanted to put it on the books because sometimes I understand that civics is not fully
taught But I just thought it would it was it was just upon my heart to give a quick civics 101 When your garbage is not picked up that is executive That is the administrative We can make a phone call We see the item we could take a
picture all that But that is the executive branch If you see an item on the books or we want to create something where the fees are low and we want to increase it that is our job But once all of that is done and now it has to go to determine whether you're in violation
you get a parking ticket you don't agree now you go to the judicial side Just wanted to give that little civics lesson And I know a lot of lawyers are watching me right now and I know you'll give me a credit for that I every week I do say it I am on
the finance committee currently Um thanks to council president uh putting me on the finance committee as the vice chair Um but I say it every week on the payment of bill or every time it is included on our payment of bills list not the budget So I want to clear that
up It's not the budget it's the payment of bills We have employees that need to be paid There are other items Any council member any council member can request items five through whatever page
two through three We want all of this to be outside of the agenda outside of payment of bills and then we vote on it separately Anyone can do that at any given time It's not for us as a total council body because for me I believe
services rendered should be paid If you if if we buy a part from your store we are using that part We need to pay it So if any council member chooses to feel that payment of bills is is corruption and whatever you feel it's fine I have
no issue with that Just say when when it comes up say council president I want to remove these items and we will vote on them separately They may still pass and or fail but every council person I wanted to clear that up because I think
people feel like if the payment of bills that you all should be doing that I don't have an issue with payment of bills so I'm never going to say take items off These services have been rendered and if I do a service or you do a service as Mr Vernon you give us that
great barbecue and we get that invoice you want to get paid It takes a long time and I know people will um and councilwoman Cotton can attest to this sometime invoices take a while right CFO it doesn't happen overnight so when
someone's item is on this agenda look I go through the bill's list I go through my agenda I'm not going to say I'm not voting on it because I've done my due diligence Councilwoman Cotton you said it perfectly about um coming and I look
people could come they could say whatever I don't have to defend my name or the work Everyone in Patterson knows to call Council Members to get it done Everybody whether they call me or not they'll have their sister call niece call but they're going to call Council
Me because they know I don't have to do all the talking Right Linda Mora I don't have to do the talking Linda Mora calls me four o'clock in the morning 4:30 in the morning And most times I answer her call right she calls and if I don't answer it she knows she gave me something tonight I already sent it over
But the thing is you have to get to know everybody Sitting here or watching a sound bite does not really give you a full picturesic view of what we do You got council members on here that do a lot of work We're here an hour before
the council meetings every week going over finance items so they we have a clear perspective before we come out to the public As you sit here we had 60 62 items on the
agenda Council President allowed me to push them and help them We only have two items left Normally we're here till midnight After we vote here all we have left is the budget That's it We have already pushed through the agenda We sit
here and I get it There's a lot of stuff that goes on in the city Garbage trash uh double parking We get the calls noise everything We get the calls We live here We don't live somewhere else and sneak over back into here to sit on the
council on Tuesday night I'm born and raised Patterson I live here And I tell people I don't mind What look free publicity is what I ask you for When you post me I get free publicity that I didn't pay for Cuz when people see you
posting me on social media Instagram they're like "That's my council woman That's who gets it done So please keep posting me I appreciate you Thank you That way people could continue to call me so that um it could get done because I'm always going to rock with me I'm I'm
going to say that on the record And I'm going to put this in my closing In my closing a lot of this rhetoric is going to be over when the mayor election is done A lot of this talking is only because of
the mayor oral election There's an assumption Mims is running for mayor So the goal is come We gota we got to attack Mims because she running Your attacking won't ever stop anybody from voting for me You're helping them vote for me Cuz when you attack me and they
call me and I get it done you just gave me another vote So thank you Keep coming I must be really important that you leave your families you leave your friends I love it Thank you for making me miss Mims your priority I appreciate
you I really do Dr Lilisa Mims thank you for that Madame clerk secretary police officers director acting business administrator corporation council CFO
I'm putting this on the record We have two officers that are here I'm not really sure downstairs with the um metal detector how it's be if it's being utilized or underutilized But I'm putting it on the record and I want
the public to hear this We have to be careful as we antagonize or promote people to come and say things because if they come in this building with weapons bullets have no names And if a bullet goes for it could
hit anybody in this chamber And as you remember we are people's mothers grandmothers fathers uncles wives husbands you name it We run the gamut So we have to be careful giving out misinformation to the
community antagonizing the behavior that will cause uh cause almost like a January 6 riot right in this chamber So I'm putting it on the record Corporation Council BA and to our CFO We have two
officers but we need to get another one cuz downstairs I am demanding that we check for weapons We check and make sure that people coming through the metal detectors they're not carrying a a a gun a knife or anything Because now to see
what I'm seeing going on it's not about the city's business is about because people are going to be waiting for us outside this building and that's going to be a problem I'm telling you right now it's going to be problematic So we need to make sure that we have people
checking and people coming through here that they're being thoroughly checked And I'm asking based on tonight because when people come to to this chamber let me tell you something People are watching and then they text you who these people are Be careful
Be careful Be very careful We are sitting here We are people's parents grandparents We are elected officials We don't mind you constructively criticizing us We don't have an issue but we're never going to allow you to come here and to to almost threaten our
lives or to attack us or to act like you're put pumping fear into us That's why our police are here to protect and to serve So I'm putting it on the record and I want it duly noted I didn't say anybody did I'm saying I'm put Councilman Jackson I didn't say anybody
threatened anybody Council members I am putting it Council members please We putting it on the record I am putting it on the record proactively because a guy a gentleman came to this chamber A gentleman came to this chamber and I
know some of you council members remember this He said they don't even check the metal detectors He pulled out right on that podium a knife in this chamber And that's why I'm making this request We don't know what people have on in
their possession We don't know who's waiting for us outside based on the misinformation that's going out into the community It is incorrect If you think that we do nothing sitting here something is wrong Don't believe that I don't care who tells you Come meet with
us call us make a conversation with us or whatever you need to do We work right now on May the 2nd 5th A they'll be getting a splash pad You may not like it but I know our youth would
love to play in the water in the park and have swings in a park There was graffiti on the wall when the park was first done because of the past issues I requested that it be graffiti paint because I knew that they would come back They have already come back after we
spend all this money on the park And this is not people outside These are people in our community that are going and vandalizing and tatting up the parks So I'm saying on the record please do this sooner than later that we have
people here um to make sure that there and not just continue safety in the building but even as we walk out cuz I'm telling you as things rise up and the election is coming it's going to get intense in here And um I'm just putting it on the record Madame Clerk my vote is
yes Thank you Councilwoman Councilman Omar Yes No no we we're closing the public portion Uh you want me to come over there yeah Okay Thank you Who who are you i'm sorry Sorry Don't answer I I wasn't referring to anyone at
the podium No sir Sir if you I'm sorry council Wait No I got the floor But before Let me say this No I got it Council President after you speak I don't want you to insinuate I wasn't talking about anybody at the podium We
had a gentleman come Mr Adamson Mr I want you to listen because you you made a request to me Here we go M Counciloman Cotton let me just Councilwoman Mims that council council president Mr Adamson No we're not council and we're not
talking back and forth I just want to put we allow we in the closing of just a minute We're in the closing of public portion If I know but if you want to have a conversation you could do a sidebar with a council member All I'm asking is respectfully let us close the public portion and let's just continue with agenda But if you want to talk you
could have a sideby conversation No problem And just just in closing Mr Adamson I'm sure you agree that we need to be protected in these chambers All right Yes So that's why I'm asking I don't know what you guys came up Were you checked in the metal detector yes I
was in the front Yeah So I want to make sure that it's properly downstairs Checking everybody downstairs So that's what I want to do You checking everybody Okay Thank you Councilman Uden Thank you Madame Clark Good evening
Patterson Uh those who are watching live those who are here in the chamber um again thank you for uh joining us virtually and in person Um Madame Clark so let me address just in general some of the conversation that we we had take
place here Um regarding these services as a council member I totally agree that the some of the services that in very frustration level yes if we talk about let's say we have we talk about just police
department police response rate is in very frustration level in the city of Patterson we all have that experience there no question now as a council body if you know this we tried our level best to make sure that we satisfy the department
We tried to attract the new uh officers to come to the city of Patterson We give a new contract and I believe that this is a very decent one In a seven in seven years of service a police officer can make six-digit number salary $100,000 in
seven years comparatively not maybe uh better than the other municipalities but we tried to introduce the best one possible and this contract was supported by 95% of the Patterson police department this is just an example
another example I we can give that uh when DPW situation you know that about bulk pickups trash collections yes we purchased new trucks yes from the uh with with the art money right we approved it emergency to make sure that
we purchase new trucks When we did that as council body we are trying our level best to give enough resources for the uh executive branch to implement Yes Uh and and provide services to our people Now
when you are missing these services yes we we it's easy to target us because we are here we are with you You see us outside you see us here in the chamber But truly this is not our duty When you guys call and just know this how hard it
is to come back And every day this is a call we receive every day There's no day we pass without making a phone call that hey there was an accident We are waiting on the street for 2 hours Can you call on our behalf we receive phone calls saying that I live on this street they
did not receive the trust or bulk is out there or illegal dumping out there We receive these phone calls regular basis It's not just myself I believe all my council colleagues receive these kind of calls And when we receive their calls we
make phone calls on your behalf to the particular department Councilman um is everything Sorry you can continue Council counciloman Ruby to get into the chamber Continue please Council All right Thank
you Council President So every time we receive phone calls we call to the particular department and we request Exactly Like we request them to provide the services or uh make the service faster That's all we do actually We
request them to provide the services But we do not have we are not their boss Just know this We cannot really force them to do something We request on your behalf and many times we get positive response from the department But if you talk about the implementation issue
that's that's the executive branch you can talk to them definitely we need to do better service We are not as as a resident of the city of Patterson we are not happy on many things and that's very true If we talk about the um checks and
balances and making the mayor and administration accountable I mean I'm talking about myself that I try my level best to make make the administration accountable Right after the public portion closes we are going to speak about budget issue Right now we're going
to hear our our version that what we want recent even last year with the budget that we we have introduced here 2% raises I know so many of our residents reach out to us that why this 2% raise That's 2% is the minimum raise
we have to have because we received transitional aid That's there's no option for us that we we cannot go down to 2% Last time when I if I'm not wrong that administration came up with 3.4% 4%
or about 4% tax hike We said we are not going to support that and they came down to 2% and then we support it This is what we we really strong stand strongly It does not mean that we are going to vote no to every items comes up with
There are so many great items comes to the council and we need to support that Talk about even today so many items that we put on the agenda That's people's service So many business approval so many services that that Patterson is waiting for It does not
mean I can say no to everything Paying bills Again one more thing I should say that paying bills we we're trying to make it a big deal If any items as as one of my council colleague mentioned that if any item you have question you can you can raise question particularly You can remove that particular item from
the agenda and vote for it But when you're saying that I am do not support it the first thing I would do I would say remove my salary from the list and let's vote for no That's would be my first stand because I cannot do double standing on this So again Patterson we
and and and I think it's a cooperative action that we have to be um you know you cannot just listen to what people are saying but you can see the action that comes from the council and again just introducing the paper when you're saying that why are you introducing this
paper was no implementation look introducing this new legislation is our job and we had to do that but implementation has to come come from the administration and we always reach out to them to make sure that they implement whatever ordinance resolutions are
introduced here in the chamber So with that being said Patterson I'm still optimist to see Patterson is moving forward With that being said my is Clark Thank you Councilman Newton Council President Thank you Madam Clerk Um I know that we
we almost uh we have few item before we finish this agenda but let me just take this time to thanks all the resident of our great city of Patterson to just be here with us and participate on the public portion I really have to just commend our community Uh before there was there was a problem with the time
people tried to get into the mic and speak for 5 10 7 minutes Now everybody stick within the three minutes So we making progress I I'm proud Mike resident of the city of Patterson we could do better and I will never promote violence And when you come in front of
the mic and you try to just curse and use profanity you're not helping yourself We are the leaders that this city elect to run the city We are the legislative body Each of us we are the role model that our children are looking
at This video is on YouTube We're in the TV Listen we could do better I'm encouraging every person that come in front of the mic Yes freedom of speech I understand that Please I'm encouraged every person now We we we we are in order with the time and I'm encouraging
everybody to be respectful because we could definitely do better People watching us from all over the state of New Jersey Look how Patterson act Look how they conduct their meeting That's not the Patterson that I want And I know that we have a lot of problem in our community but it's always hard to do the
right thing But when you do the right thing you sleep in peace Yes Today a lot a lot of my colleagues spoke about the payment of bill Council Jackson spoke about payment of bill and we always like to talk about corruption because it is easy to point finger Now after this
meeting we sit there for an hour two hours and and if if Raphael helped me over here this is only this whole page is part for the motor pool for a city vehicle And you could go on and on You
have vouchers You have repair are provided people that do business with the city of Paris So you telling me that it's been responsible no voting on this document that will help the city to pay those company that do business with the
city Patterson already has a bad name as it is Yes Because the reputation that this this city has is that people have to wait forever to get paid and everybody knows that it's a shame I feel embarrassing by that That's the reason why I take this very seriously First of
all our employees they deserve respect But let's put that aside Let's say that you you want to you will vote for our employees What about the people that provide service for the city yes The people that fix this chamber the company that is fixing the floor there So you telling me that they do don't deserve to
get paid because you try to play politic and talk about corruption and every Tuesday and every meeting Our resident they're smarter than that They are And I am challenging everybody If you have a problem with a payment of bills call for a meeting That's right Co talk about the
item that you don't want to see on the agenda That's being a responsible legislator Now let's talk about a good legislator When there's a when there was a problem by dumping who was the one that got the legislation to raise a fine up to $10,000 alex Mendes That's an
effective legislation Now it's administration responsibility to enforce it I did my part Speed bump It was me and I could keep going to support our resident It was me that put the legislation in place to make sure that
the personnel department put first Now Councilman let me entertain you for a minute The legislation that you tried to put it So you're telling me that you want to force people that build a four family house here with the high taxes that we paying to have 24/7 security
what kind of legislation is that what kind of leg so now listen what you have to do no I'm speak you could say that What I encourage you to do is I talk about the issue about our housing authority our senior that deserve that
secured in the front desk that person Let's talk about the real problem Don't come here talking about oh people that build a four family house Most of those new construction has a state-of-the-art camera Our police department when they have a problem they go into those building to get the footage To get the
footage Listen it's easy to use your position to play politic but it's hard for you to sit there and do the job and do the right thing And I choose to sit here and do the right thing I'm not a Robert St I'm not I'm here to do what is
good for the city We could play polity on during the election time and outside city hall I know how to do my my politic but not here So what you doing when you play politic you try people encouraging people to insult you council Cali for
what what are you getting out of that so now what I'm going to do is um I really really want to want to encourage my resident my my panasonian to just let's think about for a minute We're going through a very difficult time in this city We're going to talk
about the budget that is coming We going to talk about tax increase in the city of Paso People are struggling as it is right now Our property taxes are through the roof When I go to Tortoa and the same property in Torawa that
paid $9,000 in taxes you got the same property in Patterson paying 12,000 We have a lot of work to do Wow And this is serious business that we have to So I don't think that we're gonna have time to play politic I think we got to have time our
time is just to sit here and do what is right for the city of Patterson So more than you So now with that being said let me just uh encourage and thanks all the resident of the east side area Brilland park it look beautiful That
playground is one of be is going to be one of the most beautiful playground in the third ward Larry do is almost is like halfway that that's going to be it's amazing project The little Larry do is going to be is going to be rebuilt is going to be is going to be renovators as well And the resurfacing the third war
is going to start soon and throughout the entire city of Pisu including Sid Street from for the first war that you never that you never put a word for that And we and we did the work So when I get more call from the first war that than the councilman the first war I get more
cold brother I work and I love to work I love this community and I'm going to I'm going to tell you I'm always say that PA is going to be the best city in the state of New Jersey one day Let's pray for our city family and let's work together to make our city better Um in
another note I I would like to just um um ask for prayer for the city for the Dominican Republic Um there was a tragedy in the Dominican Republic one of the most the largest social club a historical social club in the Dominican
Republic The the roof collapsed and there's um over 66 people dead already Wow One of the most famous artists uh in um is dead Uh Ruby Pis he's one of the singer He's dead And there's a lot of
people are dead So there was over 500 people in the social on that social club And last night at 2 p.m 2:00 a.m the roof collapsed and um let's keep the Dominican Republic in our prayer Let's keep the city of Paris in our prayer
Let's not promote violence family um our time we live in a very difficult time as it is We have a president that doesn't understand what law what the law and what the constitution of the the United States means We have a president that
feel that he could do whatever he wants to do And that's the reason why I take um I take a lot of legal advice and and I'm I'm not planning to block anybody but what I relay in our um on our corporation council Every time there's a
piece of legislation I have a legislation on the floor that I'm I'm not moving out I'm going back to corporation council Let me explain to you what this legislation was about We all know what happened when I built the department For me I feel embarrassed to serve the city of Paris as an elected
official with that department It it's it's so hard to see company and people waiting for a year one year two year for a permit for them to do the right thing Calvary Baptist Church since September last year they
tried to replace a roof and they lost the file three times They misplaced the file three times There's a resident in the sit waiting to remove his oil tank He's been waiting four months just for a permit to remove a oil tank
How can we work in a city like this and then you blame people when they try to do when they do things without permit It's a shame And we don't know about the corruption that has been going through that department for years and years People are suffering in the city of
Patterson because of that department Now if you ask me do I have faith on that department absolutely not First of all they don't have them in power to serve the community Pisu is the third largest city in the state of New Jersey And you go to the building department they don't have a date and time when to give you
the permit You you go to any other city and they will tell you sidewalk come in 3 days Uh any project you got to come back in 10 days you will have your permit Here 3 month later five six months come back later We're not it's not ready yet Oh we misplace your file
All those kind of things I understand that the state is overseeing that department but they don't have them in power to serve and to fix all the problem there I I I I do have a lot of confident the state because they do they fix our police department but that
problem is bigger than than the city and I hope that the state look into all the mess that we have on that department on that department and hold people accountable for a lot of the thing that they've been doing for years Now the legislation that putting in place is to
allow people to allow developer whoever wants to build the project to hire their own engineer firm to go through the process to get certified to get stamped and to move the process and get to the building department and pays the fees We
could raise so much money from that department We could bring so much revenue from that department and we are in need of a lot of money in the city of Paris We're expecting to ask a state for $33 million to balance a budget this year Let's pray that the city get those
$33 millions of dollars So when I'm saying that we have a lot of work to do it's a lot of work on behalf of our residents because our taxpayer suffering and you have homeowners with two family house there three family that they cannot afford one more dollars on tax
increase So what do we do either we play politic either we fight and curse each other or we sit down and work as a team to find additional revenue to the city and to find a way to fix the problem that we facing the city of Patter All
I'm asking is that we don't have to agree on anything but we could respect each other We could debate and we could find better solution for our city That's all I'm asking Now last but not least the ball pickup to the
administration Sometime when you talk about the ball pickup all all they talk about is data The data the only data that I know is pattern is filthy It's filthy You have table chairs couch everywhere That scheduling is not
working You could show me oh 80% of the people are calling I don't believe in that Let me drive around the city of Patterson So you're telling me that if if I have a little table I have to call and make an appointment Now when you call they not taking appointment They
not scheduling nothing on the phone We have a lot of senior that they not computer savvy They don't know how to log in and schedule a ball pickup Please I'm praying if somebody call the public work department get the ball pick up on
a schedule by on the phone A lot of our senior they don't know they're not computer savvy they don't know how to deal with that Now my plan to fix a problem is simple and every city you could do this research You could go to any municipality they give you one day out of the month to throw the chair that
you're not using the table They give you one in some city they give you two dates out of the month Let's put it on the schedule Give me one day or two and people will know when to put those stuff out and we will clean that city
We have $1 million grant on air boss is in charge of that I'm still waiting to see the result of the cameras It's $1 million to buy 77 cameras to stop people from dumping in the city of Patterson Um
I know our uh um economic development director she's not here but director Ramirez Fuku relayed that information to the administration We need those cameras in those places People are using Patter as a dumping ground We have to stop those
people from dumping in Patterson We have people from all over the place I know we catch a few people but but we could do a a better job We need those camera We both we vote on that idol over 6 months ago and we still have no result Please we need those camera in those location
And last but not least Patterson please stop speeding in the city of Patterson We have people driving around the city 60 miles per hour on a residential area Please please when you go to Hor when you go to Wayne you don't do that because the traffic the division of
traffic and the police department they enforcing that in those town Don't do it here That's why you here in Paris When people get into Paris they drive 50 60 miles per hour Please let's do better My vote is yes Madam Clerk Thank you Council President
Six in favor Madam Clerk I apologize I need to reconsider my vote Yes Thank you So just for a point of clarity and I want everyone to pay attention to this the legislation that I proposed tonight
for ordinance specifically targets development projects and people who are who have millions of dollars who are making money on the community to come in and require them to provide cameras provide security Should be a basic requirement We shouldn't have to as we
increase the population in certain areas knowing that we don't have the manpower for policing but we don't want to put the onus on the on the people who are overdeveloping in these areas Now in contrast the legislation that council president is talking about he's talking
about allowing developers to then go hire their own agency to come in and evaluate their applications So it removes the accountability from the city Now you got an outside agency that's doing the
oversight So when anything goes look at the starch difference between the two pieces of legislation One holding developers accountable and working one working on behalf of the developers Just look at that So you you see the starch difference right now He talks about the
item that I wrote and how the housing authority first of all no one has held the housing authority more accountable than me When those projects came through for the the housing authority vote go look at them Look who voted in the affirmative for the $100 million at
Fifth Avenue for the $140 million right now at Christopher Hope Look who voted in the affirmative on those projects When you talk about the housing authorities's failure and they renamed the facility after the housing authority director go back and look at the vote
Look who voted no And then look what my answer was The housing authority has failed our community My legislation continues to hold the housing authority accountable I'm not here praising them saying "Oh we going to name this after
you Look at the great job you're doing." And then come here and be a hypocrite and then say "Oh it's the it's not the developers this housing authority No it's every single shovel that goes in the ground There should be a level of accountability to security to making sure that the people that live in these
these places that they're building they feel safe and secure Look at the starch difference So and and finally right I understand that everybody has a different level of comprehension but it's not the common sense isn't that
great You don't have to have a great deal of common sense to understand what's bad and what's good And then people make these comments like "Oh I take calls from the first ward." This is a resident tonight This is built inside East Side
Park and someone is living there So if you can zoom in on this uh Mr Cameraman this is in the third ward I'm not stating I don't come here and try to put the onus on the councilman and say "Well you know you're not doing because I know where it where it belongs." But to come
here and try to insinuate and infer that the first ward is in this condition that it's in because of something that I'm doing that's just a further attempt to mislead the public So it's obvious I mean you know I
know the tender because they got tore up tonight by a legal dis dissitation that I had to give that he's incapable of understanding but that still didn't get an answer to because there's nothing you can refute You cannot refute the facts And
this legislation that you're talking about that you made that legislation was copied directly from the state the state legislation has put uh has placed a minimum of 2,000 and a maximum of 10,000 on dumping And that's why the leg the
legislation mirrored that It couldn't go beyond that because it's a state legislation I just read that one the other day I I'll text you the state statue so you can do some research You can have your wife pull it up for you But this is what's going on here We're
talking about what we're doing And so what's more important so you made an amendment to the to the legislation How many tickets for $10,000 have been written but I could tell you how many ribbon cutings you've been on with the mayor How many times you've been you
know rubber stamping kissing kissing the ring This is why the condition to cities in the condition it's in And that's that's just the point blank facts You can't debate with me You cannot I would I would man it would it would be an embarrassment every single time because
you have done nothing responsible for this community just because you voted on these other things that $100 million where that developer at Fifth Dav walked away with 25 $30 million in developers fees where they charged $400 plus,000 I'm glad that the the new president has
appointed this new attorney general and she says she's coming to Patterson because that's going to be the first thing that I point out to her the $450,000 per unit for these development projects and these and the dep deplorable conditions that that the city
is allowing for our residents to be subjected to This council if it was responsible we would have took the housing authority back over We would have stopped allowing these outside developers to come in here and take on these projects But if you listen to everything they're saying everything is promoting developers outside developers
And who's getting shorted the the residents paying2 $3,000 in rentals for properties for for apartments that's being done subpar And you can't refute that If you can then let's go out in the field and and show it Exactly But you
know and madam clerk I I apologize for delaying I was minding my own business He wants to call me out on on on things that are not true and accurate True You can never debate with me on that man Let's do a a head-to-head debate and talk about the things that you
understand here and you will be embarrassed You would be it would be an embarrassment In fact I would have to take it easy You know how like you if you see there's uh uh you go to maybe a dojo or something you got a black belt just beating up on a white belt so bad They're like "Man why'd you beat you
didn't have to do that?" I would have to be like "Listen man We're going to just go easy cuz I don't want to embarrass you to that extent You have never written any piece of legislation of of substance Everything that that you're claiming came directly out of their
office I wrote everything that I've presented Not only have I written it I did all the research and is not have not been able to be refuted you irresponsibly has kept it off the agenda but that doesn't mean it didn't
meet its legal uh credence But you know listen if you look at the city you want to know where what why it is what it is Look this is this is the example This is the example Irresponsible leadership that don't understand its role and going to point the finger at Anyway Madam
Clerk I apologize My vote is no Thank you Councilman The votes are five in favor one against three absent The public portion is hereby closed Thank you Madam Clerk And before we continue with to those two
item um um just a public announcement there's two more ribbit cutting that you want to see me very soon And and it's at the Larry Doby field state-of-the-art facility for for a kid to play sport and also the playground on Breum Park I want our children to see that playground
Corporation Council Brilland Park is going to be one of the most beautiful playground The third war is cleaning and better than the first war because I care about it I work with every director I'm gonna have a picture of Councilman Jackson at the at the Hitch Stadium at the grand opening He complain and and
talk about the stadium He was there at the grand opening on the first line I like that's why that's why he do all the time Listen you cannot debate with me Listen stop play politic from that seat and do your work That's what you got to do You got to stop play politic Do your
work Now let's let's go back to business Um uh Mr CFO item number 13 is a resolution authorizing reading of the calendar calendar year 2025 municipal budget by title only and the introduction of the calendar year 2025 municipal budget Um council president
thank you So the highlights of the budget are our pension is going up $2 million our insurance is going up $4 million and our salaries are going up $4 million Um for that reason we've had
we've asked the state for $33 million Um we as the state last year for $27 million Now because of timing um the state is on a fiscal year and we're on a a calendar year Um just a um Yeah
somebody missing Um uh just a minute Mr here for Can we call uh Councilman Mims uh if you call Councilman Mims Um she got to get in Just don't quote him She must have went to the ladies room Yeah And I and I do apologize but
sometime listen sometime it's good to talk about Yeah Like and I and I and I decide to rebut all the nonsense that Councilman Jackson was talking about because you at one point you got to stop and you have to say listen what is good for our city When is the time for us to
start saying talking about important situation that happen in our city and our community stop attacking each other Uh if I I'm taking a ribbon cutting is because I put on the work I supported my administration with that project and I deserve to be there East Side Park is
renovated from the from top to bottom We still have a few more project Tennis court done Playground that was destroyed for years is brand new Our children are the one getting the benefit of that Now we got both park being done We doing the
work That's what we have to do for our city And the only way that you're going to do that is by working with the community by working with the directors by working with administration That's the only way to do it Um so Councilman Ms Yeah So let me let me just put on the record I know I my name was called but it's just
unfortunate that there's only five council members So if you have to go to the bathroom you have to break a quorum But we're here for hours So I just want to put on the record so community sees there are five council people that are left as we go into this really important discussion in regards to the budget But
I had to go to the bathroom I hate to have to say it because it sounds like a kid but my name was called but I had to go to the bathroom No it was five when you left councilwoman It was five people here It was five Yeah but my name was called was here when you left Jackson was still here right but
obviously he must have left because he got up and left So that's why we That's what that's why I'm making a comment cuz it was courtroom that was broken Once there's not five but I was in the ladies room Yeah And for me it's important to talk about this because it easy to complain but this is the topic that we
have to address Now we we're on item 13 Um Mr CFO he already addressed the situation with the request to the state with the $33 million Um you know so we we definitely hope and pray that we'll get the answer from the state That will
be on regular for now and next week Um we did we um let me ask him Did we have a discussion we we he went over discussion and the state and the request of the state and then Chris you have a question That's what my mess cuz I I
wasn't here No no He just was going over Yeah we started We just started So Mr C4 he just gone You want to finish uh uh Javier and then right after that we're going to open the floor for discussion So again now just um the expenses the highlights of the expenses Pension went
up $2 million in this budget Um insurance went up $4 million in this budget And our salaries went up $4 million in this budget Mhm Um because of that I I stated that um we asked the state for 33 million Last year we received 27 million Um because of the
timing of um their state their state budget their fiscal um we will not get a letter until July So in this budget I'm only allowed to put 27 million So for this time right now this budget has an increase of
5.6% for taxes But again it's only because of timing Um once we get that letter I fully expect to get a significant amount of that $33 million And at that point this budget again will be closer to the 2% that we've done for
the last four years So um Council President uh Council Me So just a few questions So I know um a few things can uh take place So thank you Mr CFO for that to one Um since it's late the
budget in July is it possible is it possible to wait to produce um to introduce the budget and just do temporary appropriations until that time because I'm not sure I can only speak for myself
5.6% is a very heavy lift to say to right now even in a working introduced budget 5.6 six is a very big tax hike for our residents So is it possible um and I don't know if our council colleagues would agree that we can push
back the introduce um more so look at the uh temporary appropriations until the time it gets closer where we know whether we're getting 31 or 30 uh 33 million to fill the gap But I also want to put on the record which I have asked
you um for finance that we would prepare numbers for um if we only got 29 million if we only got 31 million proactively so that those that information could be presented later on if need be to the
city council So I'm just putting on the record what I made a request for in the um background but that would be a recommendation I don't know if the council will uh go with that but I think 5.6 is a lot and maybe we need more work on it but I would rather us support uh
temporary appropriations until the time that we can get that number down So to answer your question council women mess um the state wants us to adopt on time which would be Sorry Can you speak closer to the mic uh Javier I'm sorry So the state the state wants us to adopt on time which would be by April Well we're
Well we're not adopting We're sorry introduced introduced on time So the state So the state wants the city to do an introduction of the budget on time Correct Which would be by April by April And and the budget will be introduced with a 5
6% waiting on the waiting on the $33 million to go down to 2% Correct And again um council president can speak to this and councilwoman um uh can speak to this as well She's been in the meetings and I think councilman
Dean I don't know if you were there for that part of the meeting but the state basically wants us to introduce on time introduce go ahead the floor should know so I'm just I understand what the state wants
right and we're we're fine with what they want but it it does not get approved the mic oh I'm sorry I understand what the state is requesting as it relates to our introduce But if you do not get the support for the 5.6% they would have to wait anyway So
I'm just asking I'm not sure what the council members will vote I I have no idea I will say to the public I will not support 5% a 5.6% tax increase Even if it's introduced I'm not supporting it So that's me I'm speaking
for one I'm only one person However just answer question So I'm just saying if if you don't get the votes are we able to do the temporary appropriations um yes we are Yes How many votes will be required for temporary appropriations
either five or six states might be any seat votes No no no That's just you know we've done it with five um CFO um ridges are appropriate in April uh and and May but they introduce seats
right for temporary green fire So It's six votes It's six I thought it was six It's both states for temporary No the budget is five but appropriations are six So CFO So I'm just making that recommendation if you choose So the
other option is leave the budget and if it fails the appropriation item is on the agenda as well and then that will be voted on and prayerfully we'll get six on the appropriations No I mean both idol item 30 No they got both of them on here I'm sorry Councilwoman I have
council for council No she she I had the same question as council Okay So council and then you next council woman I'm sorry Thank you Uh thank you council president um CFO So um in the meeting with the DCA I was in presence as well
and uh you heard my stand It's not really you heard my stand I'm talking about the situation that the Patterson is going through I understand that you have applied for 33 you said million 33 million uh t uh
transitional aid and uh I I told you that we may not have re you know uh get 100% granted but even if you receive the exactly same amount that we have received the previous year I mean we can go we can we can
predict the lowest we can get that's that's fine but point is that even even if you if you say that that if you receive this transitional aid that we we requested then we can go down to minimum percentage for that time being I don't
think Patterson resident is ready to take the burden because it's because of many things we are raising very minimum percentage Patterson should know that because of Patterson board of education
last two years it it is extra you don't know how much burden came to people's shoulder as resident mortgage payer I I personally know that how much how much raise and how much how much burden in in in the
families now I do I recommend exactly the same way that what councilman mess just stated in the in the meeting that can we not introduce something with minimum percentage and if we we do not have any other options then we can think about amendment or adding in the future
that's afterward but exactly same thing you can go for temporary appropriation now if you judge come up with saying that what DC exactly did uh in the meeting and said uh the person was in presence representing she was telling us
that if you do not support this budget you will be personally sued you it equal that right you remember that time and I I am just I I said it I said it in the meeting and I'm saying to the Patterson people if I get to get sued I'll get
sued but I cannot support that I said in the meeting I'm saying it to the public I am not supporting that that hike and if I get get sued state will sue me But I cannot I cannot kick my people the resident out of out of whom cuz this is
this is out of control at this point and and and corporation council truly if I that that should be the commitment from every single directions If we need to stop hiring stop hiring If we need to fire whatever
needs to be done is to be done But point is that we have to give the people priority That's that should be the priority at this moment 6% 5.6% raise this totally unbelievable And I I said in the meeting I'm saying in public as
well I am not going to support such kind of uh tax hike and whatever will come will come Thank you If I can coun I'm sorry if I can answer real quick Uh Mr Silva go ahead Um so just to
answer your first question uh Patterson residents would not feel the burden Councilman tax bills don't go out until adoption right so this is just introduced Tax bills will not go out until adoption So uh Patterson residents would not feel anything until you
actually adopt the budget Again this is just introduced So tax bills tax bills already went out through May right so now the next bills are due August and November Those bills won't go out until we adopt a budget not introduce until we adopt We fully expect to adopt somewhere
close to 2% So no Patterson res going to feel a 5.6% increase Uh I still have the floor Uh council person thank you very much Um CFO I do understand what you're saying that by the time we we get the
confirmation from the uh state we don't have to send the uh uh you know tax amount to the university that I I I I understand that part but everything is matter even even though uh we don't even know what percentage we are getting once
we approve it it it's really hard to walk backward that that's truly I'm talking about my my personal view Think about the assessment that that uh the letter people received right about the um hybrid assess assessment People are already frustrated of this situation I
was recalling when I voted for it Trust me I cannot even recall that we voted for it last year in January Now we are people are receiving the letters at the moment when the uh the the the prices of the houses
are in the like top with the cap level We cannot go any more higher If that goes high people are going to be on the street At that moment we are going for reassessment and this is another way of you know uh grabbing money from the
people and truly everything everything is interconnected If you cannot just leave it like oh no assessment has nothing to do with the tax site It does that assessment is going to come up very high the the the home the house prices that was from from like two years ago
what was like $200,000 that house is like a million dollars I don't I don't see Patterson has seen anything like that previously we can expect that the amount right now prices right now I think we can see what we have seen in
2008 and 2009 10 years exactly the fall can happen another time because the prices is too high it's it's unbelievable unably high and you are we are going for assessment at this point now we are talking about u you know uh
the uh uh 5.6% 6% tax high even though people are not getting the tax amount I believe that as as a as as a people's representation we cannot support certain hike we have to find proper strategy the the point is that every time we are
supporting certain things like this administration is not thinking about uh how we can uh you know increase our uh local revenues we're not thinking about it we're not thinking about implementation of the u of the ordinance that we have in our paper that
everything is a factor when you're saying that let's say one of the council members mentioned that how many ticket we issued for this particular ordinance we are not issuing ticket it's not just implementation we are losing money at the same time too everything is interconnected uh CFO
with the raising taxes that that cannot take place here services if we say you are doing great job maybe but point is that are we happy with the services now really it's still in frustration level we still need to do better job but on top of this when
people are not getting 100% satisfaction on the services we are putting more money on their shoulder that's that should not take place so CFO we cannot speak like that we do not know these people we are not part of pattern you cannot just throw stuff that that
whatever is people's you know whatever they can they will do it no this is our people this our priority our priority is not anybody else more than the people in the city of Patterson So this new assessment and taxes we are thinking
about whole situation is is really unbelievable as a as a as is I I I believe that we are failing in this in this matter If you think about the in here in the city council or think about Patterson board of education every direction every direction we are failing
and this is our people We cannot let them just okay uh go like this So I think that it is our time We have to we have to stay stand united If we need to say let's all come together and all we say that we are not going to get our sales for certain months if really
they're committed like this So I think I think that seriousness has to come from the administration Stop hiring new people that freeze that for now Let's make make life easier for the people of the city of Patterson If I may I got to go get up but uh CFO
Thank you Thank you Councilman Dean Counciloman Cotton Okay Thank you Um I know that um did you said is it is it in the statute that we have to adopt it by April what i mean not adopt introduced
by what april It's um by March 31st So okay So it was passed March 31st Correct But this is the first meeting after March 31st So it's okay Okay The first reader But now what happens uh if it don't get adopted now if don't What
happens if it doesn't get introduced april May June July what happens well we would have to do temporary budgets each year Each each each quarter yeah Each month All right So they there's no penalty for not introducing Well you're just um the state would like us to
introduce but I'm asking you There's no penalty I'm not sure there's a penalty No No You know it's like like other budgets like the board of ed had to be introduced by a certain time And I'm asking him do we have to have an introduction not an adoption but an
introduction of a budget by a certain time there hasn't been penalties in the past Huh there hasn't been penalties in the past There have not been So then I mean so so so why even bring it up why we need to I know you got to I know you got to bring it up but then now I think the next time that you have the meeting
madam madam BA president BA I think you need to bring this test assessment in here and explain that letter that went out you need to bring him here so you can explain that letter that went out because I'm not sure if it's every 10 years that they have to reval your
property because it wasn't done before and other cities sued Patterson for not doing years We had gotten in trouble for not doing any of our uh assessments So the next meeting you need to bring that uh tax assessor up here explain that letter
that people are getting on what they need to expect or what they need to to do because I believe I think mine was like maybe 10 years ago that they reassessed my property but it only went up like 25,000 It wasn't a lot but I'm just saying you need to let
him explain cuz you really not the tax assessor office Uh no but I can give you um general Why is it Why did it let her go out then so um we're doing a reval Why um we were mandated by the county We're mandated The last reval we did put
that out there We're not re We not revaling because we want to No we're rerouting because this they're telling us we have to reval The last reval we did was in 2015 2015 Okay Then we were in a um reassessment program Okay The reassessment program uh was voted down
at one point and then I believe in 2020 or 2019 I believe in 2020 or maybe 2021 Ever since then our um equalized ratio has gone down It was at 100% in 2021 It went down and again these are just off the top of my head numbers to 86 then to
74 It's it's now down to like 48 So we were mandated by the county to do a reval you was mandated Yep Okay Thank you Council and I know Council I I'm going with Councilman Odin um next but um Mr CFO I
mean you hear you know the concern of this governing body Um and the reality is that it's going to be very difficult uh for the administration to get the approval of 5.6 even though we understand what you're saying that we got to wait for the the transition a and see how much money we're getting But my
concern comes with um when we start approving temporary appropriation right after temporary appropriation we spending money that we don't have and we wait until the last inning and at the last inning we don't see we don't have any other choice but hit our taxpayer
with an increase we could be two it'll be a blessing if it's a 2% because based on what I see might be more than two uh this time around I think that we got work to do and my request to you is that let's start working on a budget projection ction I want to see in term
of revenue how much revenue are we getting from public work number one I've been mentioned that you see street cleaning going out without inspector a street clean without inspector it's easy um we losing close to $5,000 per route
if you get an inspector um if we if we go in without inspector sending a strict lady without inspector it's $55 certific I'm sorry um oh no corner I'm sorry Uh members of the public it's hard to do the meeting with five council members Um so just a
minute Can you call uh the council woman back so we only have one more item before we finish I'm sorry Can you tell the council woman to come in not ma'am Councilwoman please just um do
we apologize to the public Raphael So we're just going to wait Just stay on So once councilwoman come back there's only five council members and I understand that sometime we have to go to the bathroom we have to do things you know unfortunately Um and and we don't have
any other is here Council Khali M is here That's right Mim is here Council may is here Councilman Large Fio is here Counciloman Ruby Catlin is here And Councilman Jackson left Well I have to say it He knows that
why he's not here about to talk about the budget You know what it's easy to complain I mean this is the real this is the real conversation that we need to have So we have our we have homeowners there that they expecting for us to fight and look for solution to fix this
problem But at the on that conversation no he's not here It's easy to complain but it's hard to do the right thing And as a result I'm not going to stop A lot of some council member they use this uh days to to play politic We're talking
about here a temporary uh a introduced budget with 5.6% increase in taxes That's a major thing That's a major thing You know people if that happened people I mean a lot of people would lose their property in the city of Patterson So this is the dialogue that we need to
have So Sila I know stay stay tuned with us We only have one more more item Councilman Mims is walking in Um just mess I'm sorry Councilman Ken my councilman mess is right next to me Um uh Council President Okay she's back in
So to my point Mr Sila so my No no we understand Cassum Don't worry about it So going back going back to business Mr Silva listen it's going to we're going to we're going to leave item 13 on on the
agenda Uh but as I as I mentioned to you before all our community see is that we voting on a 5 an introduced budget with 5.6% increase There's work to do because our homeowner they cannot afford another tax increase We got work to do Let's
start putting together a budget projection on DPW How much funding are we getting from public work how much funding are we getting for our fire department with inspection building department with inspection We're leaving millions of dollars at the table If we start working with those department enforcing the law that we have in the
book I was talking about the street cleaning A lot of the time you see a street cleaning with our inspector Every ticket is $55 100 car and every route that's easy to do it You got $5,000 in ticket right there We have to come back and we have to start working in term of
revenue sila Now I want to see how much money are we getting from those department and what can we do i understand we have a we have a piece of legislation to increase the fees on the health and human service but let's see what are we doing what all those department because everything is not
about going back and let's see how much money we're getting from the state let's see how much money we we we increase in taxes so the best work that we could do now is look all the different source of revenue that we could have and we could increase in all the department across the board public work fire department
police department building department and We already have health and human service here will to increase some of those fees So let's do that because that's the only way that we're going to be able to save our homeowners in the city of Paris That's the only way And I
mentioned before Tora Horton you have property in toa paying 3,000 less in taxes than Pison same property a lot 40 by 100 50 by 100 same piece of property I'm moving and we getting three and
$4,000 more in taxes in Paris And it's hard for us because when you see the condition of the street the city is filthy We're not getting the recycling on time to we're not picking up the recycling time We're not picking up the garbage on time All that
combined is heavy for a Psonian So our job now let's look how much money we getting from each department And the reason why I'm so disappointed with a building department is because I know that we could collect millions of dollars from that department just by
doing the right thing by working with people making sure that they get the permit on time make sure that they pay their fees and let's keep the city moving Every dollar matters here And if we have to stop um um so so um you know
um getting those people in those position let's keep those position empty whatever is empty let's still leave it let's leave it like that and let's let's talk about those revenue projection a little we're going to leave those two item for uh for the regular meeting and let's see how we doing so I have I have
council me Dean uh and I have counciloman cotton all right thank you council president uh you have said a lot and uh again um C uh Mr CFO um I I have to restate whatever I said it I want public to know
we need to go every single item by item in the budget this time I think we cannot just that on Friday We cannot just depend on the homeowners cuz this is a very easy target for all of us to just go with regular homeowners Those
are living two three family houses and they are the sufferer It's like you it's like it's a crime to become a homeowner in the city of Patterson now because everyone's target is the homeowner We cannot just depend on like this That's not strategy as an
administrators It should come something different strategy that how can we not raise burden on the uh homeowner's shoulder Can we can we bring real business to the city whatever business we have can we give them the space think
about the last many years that that Patterson is speaking about downtown area We we lost so many businesses You all know that Why just if you recall the last um Valentine's Day last Mother's Day
Father's Day there are so many um uh you know vendors outside of the on on the street selling the product that the the traditional market is selling inside People are paying high rents taxes They are not selling their product
because the people selling on the street Is there an implementation nothing They cannot make stations right downtown just just a block from here from the city hall There's no no implementation of the ordinances There's no punishment There's
no fine for the people who are who are taking away the business of the traditional market Nothing If you think about what um council president mentioned about the issuing ticket when people are parking during the cleaning time there's nothing
because our excuses they would have been our employees but trust me if we have employees for those particular areas we could pay the salary of those employees and make money instead We're not thinking about those those strategies the homeowners the weakest point easy
point to target on So I think from now we cannot just keep on supporting the uh budget like this by just randomly I think it's time for us to go over every single item by item and you should
listen to the council members suggestion where you can make money from where you can make from and which position should be eliminated and where where we should give priority to hire more people so that people the city can make more money
Okay this is the time now cuz as a homeowner we all are homeowners I believe right here Think about think about the burden that we are taking at this point With his mother we cannot even afford the mortgage Our mor our our
taxes are way higher than the mortgage that we are paying now Now we are talking about the other municipalities why their uh taxes are too low because they do have real business in the city and people if if we talk about the services
their services are way better than our services no question it's not that our we we are entire administration this is not the case this is the reality so CFO I think I think we have to keep the people in our head before we
write down anything we So if you if if you want temporary appropriation do so Let's move forward and see if we can what can we do for transitional aid But real solution is not the transitional aid Trust me Real solution is real business Real solution
is how can we bring more money in the city and not depend on just a taxes on the properties So um CFO I want people I want to keep the people in your head and do whatever you need to do But again I
am I stated with the DCA when DCA said that they will they you know uh council members will be sued personal level that was very disrespect from the DCA then I said it right there in the meeting as well that if I get sued I'll got sued but I'm not going to support certain
certain kind of hike uh you know Texas because people already about to get you know getting homeless Mhm So uh please we need to work on this together It's not administration versus council members We have to think that
what can we do to elevate make the life easier of the people Thank you Thank you council Thank you council Um u finally so council man and right after this council members um huh
mems you know council me I know we have there's only one item um how many we got no which one are we taking off one of them or we keeping both of them on no he said he wants to keep it on No we will keep we will keep it on on the agenda for um both item 13 and also um uh the
emergency temporary appropriations as well So we're going to keep it on the agenda Okay Um I just want to say I was there I was also in the meeting Um and I say to um uh and we know there's a lot of money that's being left on the table But actually you talking to the wrong
person You need to be talking to the man downstairs cuz he can tell the department heads look we're leaving money We need to have the uh the inspectors go out I mean there's not one day that don't go by that I I have to call somebody to go out to somewhere So
uh I suggest to you Councilman Uden Councilman Menddees go downstairs uh and let the mayor know all the money that's being left on the table Huh no I'm going say Uden and Val Menddees Oh I said you know you I hear what you say There's
money that's being left on the table for fines or tickets that not being written Um just so much of it that's not being done Oh yeah And that's you know no no I'm trying to look at I'm looking at Javier
and Javier cannot call those department heads and tell them that they're losing money on the table that they're losing money on not giving out tickets Not it's a lot that's out there that could be done and I'm just saying to you council
members what you need to do That's all Council go ahead you know like everybody act like they I don't understand it I just Thank you Counciloman Councilman Mims I I think um those that's a great that's a I'm I'm sorry That That's a
great um I'm sorry Council You finished i'm saying you heard what everybody said in the room with DCA With DCA what did she say well I Okay Did she say that we must Okay What DCA
say that oh I have the just just you see this answer today She said "Okay $500,000 not going to fix the problem." I said "Oh it's not going to fix it." My answer was at this time every dollar held $100 is not $100 with our dollar We cannot leave a dollar on the table It's
easy for us to go back and hit the taxpayer with a tax increase She doesn't live here She doesn't live here So we got work to do There's a lot of way that we could collect revenue being left Councilman you're not saying it correct You're not saying it correctly You're not saying it Go ahead
Councilwoman Me Go ahead That's what she said So to the public our taxpayer tax base or tax entity base is approximately 20,000 So that means 20,000 people in this great
city of Patterson of approximately 200,000 hold up the fort for the entire city So every time we increase taxes that 20,000 base are the ones that cover it for the 180,000 people So every time we
increase and what always bothers me we say it's only going to be $50 or $40 Some people if you increase it by $5 they cannot stay here They will not be able to live here So we have to say to oursel if we're going to do these
increases we need to make sure the city is clean We got to make sure that the garbage is picked up We got to make sure we stop the illegal dumping We got to make sure all the double parking is stopped All these issues that we have going on in the community cuz people don't mind paying if they're getting a
quality service If they're getting service rendered that their taxes should be paying for So for me and I know you're leaving it on the agenda and we'll be voting next week and I'm glad that the appropriations will be on there as well to the public It's not politics
for me 5.6% mems will definitely not support that And I if we're concerned about the residents of this city we have to hear their cry I heard the residents when the on the school board when they were saying 6% They were devastated by that
So I'm sure it's no difference here We have only 20,000 about 21 22,000 It used to be 23851 that has reduced about 20,000 people that pay for the entire city of Patterson And I know the newspaper is watching You could put it
duly on record We're voting next week MEIMS will be a N o a no I will not get 5.6 tax even in an introduce to the community cuz I find what you introduce sometimes can stay So I I I will not
support that Council President I know you're leaving it We don't really have to um appreciation This is it Thank you council But I wanted to put that on on the record and to the community at large show up next week cuz we're voting
on this next week So the meeting is at 7:00 next week Taxpayers come on out so you can see what happens 5.6% Come on out next week to the meeting Thank you All right council members I want I want to thank you for just being here at this
workshop section That's the last those are the two last item the agenda May I have a motion to close move to close by Councilman BS I'm sorry Council President We did not finish I don't think no which item you don't have by 52 and 53 I'll tell you I'll tell you I
have Are we leaving number five on number five regular 52 is regular Wait wait wait Okay And what about 53 huh 53 53 is No we um 54 is removed No 53 53
It's not It's not signed off by by by the item is not there I'm sorry I'm so Let me Let me put this on record On item 53 uh we have the discussion with cooperation council This item is related
with councilman Jackson idol Corporation council sign Mr Davy Mr David is a lawyer from the legal department that will work with Councilman Jackson on this idol Let them meet and let's uh once they meet and it will be approved by legal we will have the discussion
here and we'll be ready to vote on So item 53 is out and item 54 it's out as well by uh yeah it's out until it's made everything else is is completed What about 59 say 59 clear 59
was consent consent yes Um that's councilman being idle 5 and 59 consent 58 consent Yeah Move to close I'm sorry Just a minute Councilman Cton I can't believe that Thank you Perfect Uh number five Is number five still second reading
yes Uh yes Number number six is still second reading Yes Councilman First and second they all uh and then and what about the first reading all that one Okay All Yes Moving forward Huh moving forward Yes First reading Okay Okay And
second reading Absolutely And nine is irregular Nine It's on consent Nine is consent Consent Councilwoman Okay You good so was a motion to close by Councilman Mims and second by Councilman large for Yudine Roll call Madame Clerk
to close our workshop section of today Roll call to close the workshop session of April 8th 2025 Councilwoman Cotton Thank you Madam Clerk Um what time is it before 11:00 yes 10:36 I want to say thank you to all
that was watching us tonight and to all the people who came out in the audience to um to see our council meeting Um uh there's a lot of stuff that was discussed and um thing um I I I I there's a lot of things that was
discussed and so we just have to take a look at everything that we do and um um make sure that I did have the opportunity to meet the our new interim BA Um I always say to council members if you want to go see somebody just go to
their office and they'll gladly see you All department heads they'll be glad to see you You know they anything you need to talk to them about they will talk with you So I got to say that when I talk to my corporation council I can go to Aebushi I need to talk to my health
and human services I talk to Joel Ramirez If I need to go see my CFO I can always talk to Javier And I appreciate that because whenever I come in you got open the doors for me to come in And it's about working with each other It's about relationship It's about working
and getting stuff done Um with my madame clerk uh Phyllis and and Dietra just I just appreciate you so much both of you for I see all the hard work you do and I see everything I think that maybe sometimes some people just wasn't
listening I see what you do They ain't know about this ain't this ain't the reason why we can't keep nobody I don't know you lying to me then I It's a reason for something why we can't keep nobody But I appreciate you ladies cuz I
see how hard you ladies work Um just continue I'm going to keep you all in my prayers for you But to my council colleague Councilman Yuden Councilman Omar Councilwoman at large Dr Lisa Men Um you know she's preaching on Good
Friday My council woman Yeah Two times Well she's in my ward at Second Baptist right and my ward is Second Baptist for Good Friday Yes Oh Unity Oh okay So see we got to make sure Council President and to you you
know Silk City one I got to say that You know we going to hook up one of these days I know it's going to happen when it is but it's going to happen It might be sooner than you think Silk City I see you You you're you're very you're very you're very
dedicated what you do And to Omar nice to see you Applied Everyone out there please God bless you all Uh have a good evening Uh and Madame Clerk um my vote is yes Thank you Councilwoman Uh Councilwoman
Mims So uh a few things one I have two presentations which I've sent to you council president for next week before the meeting that will be done um before the meeting They should be on the agenda for next week Um also I want to congratulate Pastor Frederick Lagard
number 5487 Um as of April 3rd he is officially a licensed funeral director Thank you so much Pastor Lagard We go way back when my daughter was two years old she went to uh your school and so I always
attribute um you know some of her educational intelligencia to uh your academy So thank you so much for all that you do in our community Pastor Frederick Lagard can't wait to celebrate you um next month Um also there's many
different things and I'll talk about them next week because next week will be our final uh council uh meeting But I want to say let's continue to keep in prayer our community with all of the senseless uh violence that's going on Um just to alert the community make sure uh
you're locking your car doors not leaving anything that's um expensive out in your seats because uh there are some uh situations where they're breaking windows out of vehicles um and uh stealing some of the um items as well
out of uh cars So please make sure next week will be spring break for our Patterson public schools So make sure for all of our parents Make sure you are fully aware to um that you will um have some activities
available for your for your children while they're out um on spring break And I wish they really enjoy themselves I'm going to miss them I'm going to say that I'm going to miss our students next week I'll probably call a few of them just to check on them Um and then also thank you for those that
pray for my mom She is doing um much better So I want to thank all of you for your prayers Um and um for my family um as well Um continue to pray for each other loving everybody Mahio I'm going just
say this to you Daniel Protect and serve You know what I'm talking about Saying it to you in advance So to all of those that come out don't come out that watch us please send text messages call us email us and I want to put this on
record Whoever did the work in city hall did a phenomenal job in the chambers and in our offices It is absolutely beautiful Thank you so much to everybody to all of you I said it earlier but I appreciate all of you and what you do Um
and I'm grateful to be a part of one of the greatest cities that I've ever lived in in my life And I don't want to live anywhere else but the great city of Patterson New Jersey You're not buying a house in Hawthorne I might get a house in Hawthorne since it's a little bit lower I might invest over there too
Madame Clerk my vote is yes Thank you Councilwoman Councilman Omar after the election before I do vote I just want to send my condolences to the Dominican community Uh council president I know you have a a candle vigil tomorrow Yeah I hope to be there Uh and I want to put
this on the record I won't support a 5.6% tax increase And uh the administration if we can have somebody come in and explain the uh hybrid reassessment program it would be helpful because a lot of our residents are asking these questions Good night
Patterson Thank you Councilman Newton My vote is yes Thank you Councilman Newton Go ahead Thank you Thank you Madam Kirk So as uh councilman um uh Omar mentioned about the hybrid
reassessment I think uh can uh madame cler on our behalf reach out to the uh Texas assessors to some send some representation here uh in the next meeting so that someone can speak on the behalf and uh make it clear So please can you uh email on the
behalf uh the uh second thing is that I I want to mention and uh last election up to our last uh county election last um uh national
election we have seen uh kind of different by wave in our community and I'm talking about in general that a group of individuals came up who saying that oh this is we have to make Green Party win and this party win
that party win Whatever happened because of that uh particular uh you know uh things that happened last time So many of our new registered voters registered as Green Party without knowing or uh or by
brainwash or whatever the reason And now we realize that the outcome that happened nationally in the last election when we were knocking the door so many people are want to vote for the Democrats and they see that this is important time Now this people should know at the same time that if you are
registered as not as unaffiliated or democrat you cannot vote in the primary So you have to change your registration to unaffiliated or democrat So I want to mention that this upcoming election is a very important election for this county
for this this this this nation cuz the crisis that we are going through you know that especially in the city of Patterson this is a city welcoming for the immigrants but people are scared of the uh new uh things that that came to
our came to uh you know uh to the people So I would say that please everyone participate in the next election the June 10th I love to see you all are voting in the democratic ticket but at the same time please check your registration if you've registered as
different way whether other not non not affiliated is fine but I like to see where you are democrat and you're voting and participating in the primary on the June 10th So with that being said I think we all all need to work together in the city level county level to move
our city forward and uh and and and pay for the city from on behalf of my uh council colleague Dr Leis But again about the tax hike uh Patterson just know this this council body um last year did amazing job on the tax hike If you
say 2% why text 2% just know the 2% is not a raise because this is a minimum we have to because we receive transitional aid but if we go more than any any points more than 2% that's us so we are not going to
support and I believe that this is going to happen again that we are not supporting anything that hurts our people So we have to be united fight together You can come to the next council meeting to see how we stand Uh and this is one of our responsibility to
make sure that this is not this is not going to hurt in your uh daily lives because of the raises With that being said my vote is yes Thank you Councilman Uden Council President Um thank you um Madame Clerk
So once again Council Khali thank you We finished our agenda today Uh we have a very um a healthy discussion about the budget I I believe that our CFO and the administration they understand our concern in term of another tax increase in our community That will be
devastating for all our homeowners Now it's time to work and now it's time to find a way to look for additional revenue How can we bring revenue u to help our homeowner to help our taxpayer in the city of Patterson we have to look into public work our fire department our police department our building
department How can we increase those revenue doing the work enforcing the law that we have in the book already to help our taxpayer to help our panasonian to allow them and to make sure that they stay home on their property because now it's difficult as it is uh we want we
have one of the highest taxes in the county and and I would say in the state of New Jersey Uh so this a lot of work to do and we're here to work This is the this is the the discussion that we need to have Um Patterson let me encourage all the resident of the city of Patterson if you're driving over our
city please slow down Stop speeding Think about our children Think about our senior We have people driving 60 miles per hour on residential area please Let's protect our community Uh slow down I I know you guys don't do that in Horon
Pro Park Don't do it in Patterson please Um don't throw garbage out in the street If you have a problem culpably work um you know let's hold everybody accountable We got to clean this city I want to reiterate one more time on the b situation I do believe that this is this
is a great idea to set a schedule a fixed schedule for everybody to have a bulk outside uh for the city to collect It will be easy It will be more effective Um dumping is been a problem We allocate $1 million for those camera Ed boss is in charge of that We need a
report of those camera to catch those people that are dumping We have a legislation in place that will hit those people with $10,000 Now we're spending thousands of dollars from public work cleaning all those corner where those people are dumping garbage in our
community Let's work Um last but not least let's pray for our city and let's get united and work I know Patterson it could be and we'll be the best the best city in the state of New Jersey God willing Before you vote President before I'm sorry just before I finish I just
want Let's Let's keep uh the Dominican Republic in our prayer Tomorrow we have we're going to have an event uh V candle the Plaza Pablo Dare We're going to pray for those victim is over 60 people already dead and there's more Um it was
a it was a terrible tragedy We lost so many great people um that were visiting the uh the uh the the country um some friend uh I received the news already from um two friend that live here in the US They they died on that uh devastating
uh accident So let's keep um all the families in our prayer Um and let's keep the city in our prayer At 5:00 p.m we're going to be right there across the street from the postal service at Plaza Pablo at 5:00 p.m Um let's pray And I just Yes I just want to give my
condolences to all those that have lost their loved one in the Dominican Republic and those that they're still looking to find We're praying for you and your families Let's continue to um build together and pray for each and every one of us Thank you Council President Thank you And last but not
least our police department Thank you Patterson When you see our police officer greet them Say hello you know just get to know your local police officer that they they they out there doing the best the best they can protecting and serving our community B clerk thank you for being here with us
Cooperation council my big brother thank you Director Ramire thank you We went easy on you today So Silva we got work to do My voice is yes but I'm clear Have a good night P Thank you Council President Roll call to close the workshop session of April 8th 2025 Oh we
did the roll call I'm so sorry Good night Patterson and God bless you