Good evening everyone. On behalf of the Patterson Municipal Council, I welcome you to the workshop session on October 14th, 2025 at 6:30 p.m. The meeting is now called to order. Madame Clerk, please call the role. >> Yes, Council President. Councilwoman
Cotton here. Councilwoman Davala. >> Councilman Khik >> here. >> Councilman Mendes >> President Clark. >> Councilman Omar >> here. Madam clerk. >> Council president >> here.
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authorized by the open public records act. Council president. >> U madam clerk, number five is moving forward to second reading and number seven will be on regular payment of bills. >> Second, please. >> Thank you very much. Um, council
president, good evening, Patterson. Good evening to my council colleagues. Madame Clerk, Sophia, Corporation Council and CFO, um I asked um who would be sitting in for the BA. I still have not received a
response, so I'd like to know. As I understand there is a um a personal matter, so I'd like to know who will be sitting in. But with that said, u madame uh president, we have before us a bills list of 26,194,2835 of which there are two payrolls on uh
this summary of dispersements for 11,33,436.74. The computer tracks uh a total of 15,160,846 uh.31 cents out of the 15 million. Uh it's uh three payments of street lights for PCNG
solid waste. uh Covanta uh we have workers comp and liability uh insurance uh making that a total of 15 million and yes my thank you very much and a board of ed uh payment one board
of ed payment for 6,78 uh,727 uh.92 once again total is 26,194,2835 5 cents. My motion is for payment of bills. >> Second discussion by council um vice
president Davis. Second by councilman colleague. Discussion councilman. >> Thank you council president. And I know that uh council dav as you mentioned the VA is not here but uh on the payment of on the list of payment of bills. I've been looking at the uh to see if I see
any payment for the company that we hired to oversee the project on River Street. As we remember when we got into the project of River Street, Mr. CFO. We hired a third a third party company that is going to be in charge of oversee the whole project. That's a very important
project. The reconstruction of the sewer and reavement of River Street. I've been there twice and I have not seen a person on the sides. The agreement when we approved the contract was that there was there will be a person assigned to the site at all time. I've been on River
Street twice. I was there today. I asked a few question. I didn't saw nobody representing that company. I was looking for the payment. I have not see it but of uh if I could get some information about the contract and what's the stat with the person need to be on site all the time. I want we we got to make sure
we got to do it right the first time around. We don't have 10 plus million dollar to invest on River Street uh again. So Mr. CFO if you could um provide me some information about the company and what's the stat with the people that need to be on site. Thank you council president. >> Thank you Councilman Mendes. Councilman
Viz. Thank you, Council President. Uh, Council Mendes. Um, before I make my question to CFO, I just got to celebrate River Street when it don't get flooded, I will celebrate River Street. Uh, through the chair, uh, to Mr. CFO,
I don't know. It's my understanding that every time that we vote for payment of bills, every meeting, uh, can you, uh, state on the record that every time that we vote for a payment of bills,
the checks is already cut, the money is already identified where it's coming from, and no checks are being put in a draw and waiting for anybody to look for the payment and then disperse it.
>> CFR, >> uh, Councilman, so dependent on timing, no, sometimes checks come up here, we pass them, but we don't have the cash, so we hold checks, especially from January through May. >> Um, when we have a pension payment in
April of $35 million and we only um have our taxes in February and May 1st, um, we hold we hold payments. So legal u leg uh madame president to to to the chair to legal I want to know what's the
legality on this because if we are going to vote on payment of bills they're sending a message that the check could be cut the money is identified and they and whoever pick up a check tomorrow could go to the bank and cash it
okay in this case you're saying okay payment of bills but the money still not withdraw from that account and you the perception is that okay we are voting for for voting uh payment of bills but it's going to be long them to take the
the check and catch it because the money is not identified or uh withdraw C count or se two count or one account you know is sending a see for for me I don't know if my colleague will agree with me when we vote payment of bills we could say
hurahh we voted for something that you going to get paid and still those vendors are getting are waiting to get paid because perception is that we voted for payment of bill to immediately disperse them and making sure those
vendor take the check. That's why we get a lot of complaints about vendors out there saying the city haven't pay us, the city haven't give us a check and we look at the list. Okay, hold on hold on. last meeting about a month ago, we voted
for that payment of bill and you still didn't got paid. So this is explanation you give us. You don't think that's bad government >> CFO? >> So again, it's um it's whenever we get cash in. >> Don't you think it's bad government?
Because if I going to put a a bill to the city of Patterson and I'm going to expect that that bill is going to pay me, they do the diligent. That's why we have the problems on the board, ladies and gentlemen. That's why we had the problem on the zoning board and the
planning board because the profession haven't got paid because we say payment of bill and then we believe that we are paying the the profession in those boards and they not getting paid. That's why the board don't even want to meet. Perception is we payment bills today.
All this individual should get a check tomorrow and they could go to the bank and catch it. But to come and say, "Oh, the money is not there. We make the check, but it's sitting in a drawer for months
waiting to see if identify or they release the funding to get paid." I don't think I think that's bad government. Thank you, Council President. >> Thank you. MO call, Madam Clerk. >> Roll call on the payment of bills in the amount of 26,194,2835. Councilwoman Cotton,
>> yes. Councilwoman Dava, >> yes. >> Councilman Jackson, >> Councilman Khalik, >> yes. >> Councilman Mendes, >> yes. >> Councilman Omar, >> yes. >> Councilman Uden, Councilman Vez,
>> my vote is going to be yes to vote for bill payment, but I don't guarantee that you're going to get a check tomorrow. My vote is yes. >> Thank you, Council President. >> My vote is yes, Madam Clerk. >> Thank you. The votes are seven in favor, two absent. The payment of bills is hereby adopted.
>> Madame clerk, items 16 through 34 are all um honores. All of those items will go on consent agenda. Madam clerk, >> thank you. >> 16 through 34. >> 35 is the economy
>> and number 35. Would you like that on regular or cons? I mean >> uh regular. >> 35 is regular, madam clerk. Okay. Okay. 36 is regular. >> Um >> 3. >> Council President. >> Okay. If you want to talk about it, we'll come back to that. >> It's on 35.
>> We'll come back to 35. >> Okay. >> It's on regular, but we'll come back. Items >> council president. >> One second. Um Health and Human Services 51 53 four five and six are consent and
52 is regular. 52 >> 52 is al >> 51 53 54 55 56 are consent 52 is regular >> okay >> for police 8 and 57 are
>> council president I just want >> before you yes >> I wanted to just say that as as that these items were discussed so all the members know our chair >> myself in committee councilwoman Cotton as well so these items are discussed
Um later on if somebody has a question, the director is here. There's only one item that would be item 52, which is the um agreement with the city of Patterson and the Department of Health and Human Services and the Salvation Army to
operate a cold blue warming center. >> Yes. >> Okay. Um also for >> police 57 >> 8 and 57 are both on consent for police.
It is a carryover. Um >> 58 and 57 are both on consent. >> 57 is consent. 58 is regular. >> Okay. >> And we may have a discussion because 58 talks about the renewal of our contract
with no bulk. So, we're going to talk discuss that. So, that's why I didn't bring that up yet. 59 is regular. 60 and 61 are consent. 62 is consent for the >> council woman. >> Yes. >> Okay. You want 59 to be unregular or
consent? >> Unregular >> cuz that's just the overflow for the sewer, >> right? They want regular. So, >> who want regular when one person wants regular? >> I want regular. I'm asking question. >> Council president, >> may I please? >> Yes. >> I was in DBW. I'm chair. Which item 59?
>> No. Um 58. >> Um >> I know that you sent in. >> Okay. So we'll hold it. I'm just going through what can go. Yeah. Anything discussing discussion. >> We'll come back. We'll just Yeah. Things that need to be discussed. We'll come back. >> So council president. >> So let's go to number nine. I know.
We'll come back. >> DPW. >> We'll come back. All items. >> We'll come back to DPW. >> Number nine. Madame clerk. >> Number what? You bring >> number nine. This is meaning to >> repair our vehicles is consent.
>> Yeah, consent. >> 10 is consent. >> Is consent. >> 10 is consent. >> 11 is consent. 12 is consent. These are all renewals. >> 13 is consent. 14 is consent.
15 is regular. Um, >> all right. So, so madam. >> Okay. Finance when you want to do all the finance items. Council >> did but I just wanted to say that you know 15 um it's my understanding we spoke today in finance that uh there has
been uh a conversation and this is a resolution authorizing a switch from the state health benefits plan. We're going to discuss we're going to discuss this. >> We we talk about >> but it's good it's good council president that the VA is here. >> I know. One second. We're not talking about it now. I'm just going through the items that we can go through and the
others we will come back cuz we have a full audience of speakers. >> Well, we'll come back to them because we have that for regular. >> Put 35 regular. >> Okay. >> 35 >> 16 is you put that one on consent as well. Correct. >> 16. Yes.
>> Put that on consent. 16. >> Um finance items, madame VP. >> Okay. Uh in terms of finance >> starting at 39. >> Uh as I always say uh with every council member there's always a courtesy in
terms of uh addressing renewals for entertainment and show license. Uh this one is for 92 uh uh Siri 92 Bar Lounge 21 West Broadway. Um I know Councilman Jackson you're reviving now, but we're discussing
um finance items. uh the renewal of entertainment and um uh dance show licenses. Uh this one is on the first world 21 West Broadway. Um if if you if there's no issues with that, you know, these items can go on
consent. Um no. All right. Uh 39 for now will go on consent. Uh the number 40 is addressing renewal of a coin operated amusement device distributor license for master vending that's 334 total road to New
Jersey. Um that can go on consent as well. 41 is renewals of coin operated amusement devices and those are pool tables. Uh Councilman uh Khik there are a few in the second wman.
>> Yeah they fine. >> All right. If all of these are fine I don't think there's any issues. I haven't addressed any. All right. Councilman Ivy as well, Councilman Velis, Councilwoman Cotton. So, we're good. We'll move 41 to consent.
42 the same. This is for uh coin operated laundry licenses. 42 can go on consent as well. Uh 43 is another renewal entertainment show license. Uh that's in the third ward. Freddy's dugout. Uh Councilman Mendes. Any
questions or >> issues? All right. 43 can go on consent as well. Uh to the audience, these items are all renewals that every year uh the different businesses come back for renewal. Uh if there isn't any issues, any breaking of the law, then we move
forward as a consent item for renewal. Uh 44, resolution authorizing an award to contract to Real Auction LLC for hosting an online tax sales for the finance department. consent >> and now sorry um regular
>> it should go on consent but if you want it on regular there >> it's because I I could ask a question now right >> uh it used to be spam remember >> no not for this >> not for this how this contract got here then >> this is the same real auction is the
same company oh it's real >> this is the same and this is for online tax sales >> does any and how much is the contract for 32,000 >> 32,000. >> Okay. All right. >> Is that okay to go on consent?
>> Yeah. Yeah. We raised the threshold. >> Okay. So, 44. Yes, we did. 44 will go on consent. 45 is a resolution authorizing the award of contract to language line services, Inc. in uh for in-person interpretation and document transcription services under the New
Jersey state contract for various departments and divisions for the city of Patterson. this item here. Um, this is this Language Line Services, Inc. is the first time we're using this this company.
>> No, we I'm not sure if this is the same company, but we use we use a translation company every year. >> Which one is it? >> Throughout the city, mostly for >> OEM 46. >> That's 46. This is to transcribe the calls that
come in. >> No, >> it should be consent. >> It's consent. It's just transcribing calls. >> Consent. >> 45 Guan consent. 46. Resolution authorizing a contract with Edmonds Govtech for annual hardware and software
maintenance support services related to the MCSJ software system for the division of information technology. >> Consent. Are they working good? >> Which one? Um 46 is consent >> for it. Yes.
>> No. Okay. Let's go back to 45 cuz I need to understand >> what it said different departments. That's what I need to understand. You said >> it's to transcribe when people come in to place a request for the police department. It's a system that
transcribes a request. So it's written versus verbal. It goes where >> that they use it in the documents and review records department >> right now. >> Say that again director. >> In other words, language is something.
>> Okay. Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Consent is fine. Yeah. Uh 47. Uh if there is no issues in the fifth ward, Councilman uh with uh Mambbo lounge,
better known as their renewal. >> They go neighbors. >> Okay. So that'll go on consent. And 48, which is downtown, will go on consent as well. It's the same um entity. 49 resolution addressing a new billard room
license for Bumunk Park known as one Q Billard 301 Main Street. That's in the first word that is in center city hall. Um, does anyone have any questions on that? I'm okay with that going on consent. >> That's number 50. >> 49.
>> That's 49. >> That's fine. >> Yes. Uh, and 50, resolution addressing a new entertainment show license for G&R restaurant group LLC known as Romo Restaurant 177 Third A building 3B at
Route 20 in Third W. So just for my colleagues who don't know that used to be the old mamauana it is now under a new owner new entity so that's why it's a new license uh under the new name >> on consent >> that's in the third wood is everyone's
okay I'm okay for it to go on consent as well >> and I believe in terms of finance wait 66 resolution authorizing the issuance uh not to exceed a 64 uh million tax
anticipation notes of 2025 the city of Patterson the county can pake state of New Jersey >> regular this item we need to discuss that would go on regular >> regular >> which one >> 66 it's regular >> so now we're going to move into our economic that's it madam v
>> uh >> I thought we going to go >> I'm sorry 73 we'll go on consent transfer of 16 taxi lights uh uh registrations >> 73 3. >> This 73 >> 73 >> 73
>> and then fire. You want to do that real quick before you do um >> Yeah, we could do fire. >> We have we have fire here. All right. >> Um these items as well went through uh we had a committee meeting uh where we
attended uh Councilwoman Cotton and um Council President. Uh, I just I'm a little confused right now. Who's Who's my guy for fire? >> Uh, council president. >> Oh, there you go. I I didn't I recognize you without your wife.
>> One second, council member. >> Okay. So, just quickly 74 resolution to award a contract to VE Ralph and Sun, Inc. under educational services commission of New Jersey co-op bid ES NJ23-24 I mean SL24-29
for the purchase of medical supplies for the fire department okay this right here all right is a yearly contract >> three years >> okay council members how would you like
to proceed with this item >> is it four >> is to Medical supplies. >> Medical supplies. >> Consent. >> Consent. It could be consent. >> I'm I'm okay with this going on. Consent 75 resolution. Please to all directors
that are here. If we put on an item and it's in consent and the day of the meeting next week, there's a council member that decides that he has questions and he pulls it. Please make sure to also be here for the day of the vote. Okay. Council President
>> 75. >> Councilman Vez. >> Oh, you didn't finish. >> Oh, is it pertaining to 74? >> No, no, it's something that I >> 75 is a resolution authorizing the award of contract to First Priority Emergency Vehicles, Inc. for the purchase and
delivery of three 2024 Demers Type 1 MXP150 Ford V8 F-450 ambulance. Product code number MXP150E- F450 under the Houston Galveistston area
council contract number AM10-23. >> Well, both both items 75 and 76 are for purchase any vehicles. >> Yes, >> they both I would believe should be on consent unless someone um disagrees. They're for vehicles.
They're for ambulances and also for um UTVs. Anyone >> disappoint? Anyone have any questions for the deputy chief or anyone? >> Which vehicles are the UTVs?
>> They're still by smaller one capabilities. So for any large events, Hit the button on your microphone. Hit the button on your microphone.
>> Sorry, I hit I must have hit it with the clipboard. So, all of the uh the UTV um one of them is going to be EMS, one of them's going to be fire. It's have a small little pump on it for fire. So any areas where we can't get an actual fire engine into, this will have the ability to get into a
smaller area. Same thing with EMS. It's going to have a ability to get one of the portable stretchers on and we can transfer that stretcher right into the ambulance for uh easier access. So it's for large events where we can't get fullsize vehicles in. We can get smaller vehicles in it. >> It's actually an allterrain. If you if
you think of uh the four-wheel allterrain vehicles that you've seen, that's exactly what it is. But it's got a larger back. So, like he said, you can put a stretcher if you can get it in somewhere. You could get it up on the mountain. You could get get it by the
falls. >> We We have two of them now. They're both 20 years old. We got them both around the same time. >> We do have two now. >> Yeah. >> One doesn't have a pump. >> Yeah. One of them Yeah. One of them's rated for EMS. One of them's just like for transporting equipment. Uh, one of them's in the shop. It's basically in
pieces. It's getting trying to get repaired, but it's probably not going to be able to get repaired. And the other one's at headquarters. We use that for any large events especially a hinch cliff we use uh for events there. >> How much is it? >> Uh the two of the two of them are 110,000 >> 110
>> total. Yeah. Total >> and we're paying for this how development. >> Yeah. CDBG money. >> CDBG. >> Yeah. >> The ambulances and the UTVs are all going under one, but it's two separate resolutions. >> So 110 CDBG. What when do we give me an
example when we use the vehicles like outside of a special event hanging out in the side like when what did emergency >> anytime there's a large scale event uh like for the uh high school graduation >> we were we were outside with those
vehicles to be able to get from one side of hinch lift to the other. Um, it's for the falls festival. Um, any of the parades, they're they're in there. They're not in the parades, but they're utilized for uh those purposes. >> Smaller spaces. >> Yeah.
>> Ambulance couldn't make the floods, too. >> Oh, during the flooding. Yeah. Floods a lot. >> Yep. >> Yeah. I got >> So, those items can go on consent. >> Yes. >> Thank you. Uh, our fire department, Madame Clerk, items 67 through 71 will
all be regular. They're items to honor individuals. >> Regular. All on regular. >> Which item? 61. >> Regular. >> 67 through 71. They're all honoring individuals in the city of Patterson. >> That's for Hispanic Heritage. >> Madame Clerk.
>> Council President. >> 76 is on consent. >> 67 through 71. >> Yeah. And 76 is on consent. Correct. >> Yes. >> Okay. Thanks, >> Council President. >> And Madam Clerk, at this time we're going to open up the public. Council >> President, >> one second. Council
>> President 70 is gone. >> Yeah. >> 67 through >> We did do >> No, we did not. We didn't finish. >> Oh, we didn't. Oh, I'm sorry. >> That's right. She's just >> one second. >> Council President.
>> I said it was to the chair. >> No, it wasn't. Um, Councilman and then public um then Councilman Jackson, then public works, and we're going right into public portion. So, council president, I I was looking into u the agenda, but I I went directly to
the uh resolution to the paperwork. Um 55 is a memorandum of uh understanding with KOMAC to deliver partnership. says here in the body that DHSS,
DHSS and KUMAC uh human services and KUMAC but we supplying the driver the vehicle is it looks good but our own expense the
driver the city employee the gas everything coming from us they only supplying the grocery is it's good service. >> But my my my question on this, are we hiring a new driver to for that detail
that this is a new? >> No, we're not. Um, director, if you'll just come and speak to that. >> Yeah, please. >> You went over this item a little. >> Good evening, members of the council. Uh, thank you for your question, Councilman. This is the second year. We're just renewing this, and you are
correct. We are providing the driver, which is in senior services. We are providing the van. Kumac gives us the list of homebound senior citizens who cannot leave their home and we take the groceries to them. >> So how do senior call Kumac directly or
they call you guys? >> They're screened through Kumac. That's why it's a partnership >> through the application and they do. >> Yes. >> Okay. That's okay. Thank you. That's a clarification. Good one. Thank you. >> Thank you for the clarification. >> The second one is >> looking through the agenda. I don't know. We haven't done DPW, right? We're
we so we're gonna go to DPW because in that committee only one person showed up. I'm going to allow the chair to speak to that for DPW um Councilwoman Cotton. So we're going to go into that in one second. >> She's getting ready to speak to DPW items. >> So if you want to wait for her to start
it correct. >> Okay. Councilman Jackson then Councilwoman Cotton for DPW please. >> Okay. So before I speak on this other item here, um on the same matter to the director of health and human services,
why are why is this let this uh these referrals being given to us by Kumac and not through our senior services through the city and and are is are we paying Kumac to do to to provide this service or do they have are they being provided a grant or something of this nature to
provide the service? Why are we is this an in addition to what we do for our normal for those seniors that participate in our senior services uh programs or I'm I'm curious of why are we taking referrals from KUMAC for our
residents? Why do we have a third party entity that has to tell us where we have seniors that that are in need? >> Is that right? >> So, thank you for your question, Councilman. Again, we started this last year. Um, nothing's changing. We're just renewing the agreement. KUMAC gets the
food from the Community Food Bank of New Jersey. We cannot get the food directly. So, they get the food. They had a need to serve homebound seniors, >> right? >> So, they reached out to us. We have a driver. We have the capacity. So, we do have seniors that come to our programs
on a daily basis, but they are mobile. >> Either the county brings them or they have their own cars. This service is for senior citizens that qualify to get the food but cannot leave their home. >> Well, Patterson, >> correct? Only Patterson. So, we're bringing the food to them.
>> No, I understand. But, um, the question is then these referrals that we don't know about these seniors that are homebound. They're not making contact with us directly. They >> they have to reach out to Kumac. So if they call us and there's there's an understanding of a need,
>> we direct them to KUMAC. >> So if they call us, we make sure the forms are filled out and we pre-screen them and provide KUMAC the information because again Kumac is getting the food from the Community Food Bank of New Jersey. So they need to have that information in their record. They become
KUMAC's clients. But this is why it's a partnership between the city and Kumac. They have the food. They have the resources to box to sort out what the seniors need. and we are simply just delivering it. >> Understood. So, um do we have a a list
of um of of of all the clients that they have outside of this program as well? Outside of the ones that we deliver to as well. >> This is the only part partnership that we currently have with Kumac. So, we would only know how many people we service through this. >> How many people we servicing?
>> But KUMAC does serve 10,000 families a month. How many people are we servicing through this program? >> We're serving a few hundred people a month. >> Uh just a few hundred. You don't have the number? >> It is KUMAX data, but I can I can ask
them to give us a list again. This this lapsed over the summer. We're just renewing it because they reached out and have an interest in us doing this. So, we're going to start again, but I can get you last year's data. >> Yeah. And how much how much uh how much
did we spend? We we spent nothing. The driver is already on payroll at Senior Services. The van is the van was donated to us through New Jersey Transit. It's >> just the agreement. >> So, whatever the fuel cost, >> so these are these are existing drivers we already have on staff. We're not
hiring. >> Okay, understood. >> Thank you. >> Um, council president. >> Yes. >> Before we move forward, I want to address a matter that that definitely needs some attention. um as our law director just um
graciously has handed out this document about an and a uh a function that he's planning to hold here in city council chambers. Um which I think is is definitely something
that's in need. In fact, I've reached out to corporation council quite some time ago with regard to uh many uh constituents issues that that has that have never been addressed and have never been uh uh uh
taken care of. The the thing that I'm concerned about is several things. one this this document which we've sat in here we've talked about it which corporation council has confirmed it's illegal for for landlords to be charging residents for parking. He has confirm
that but yet that's not included in this document. That's uh one of my concerns about this. More importantly, council president, is my concern about your interaction with um me uh specifically, but council members in
our uh our our qualified ability to utilize city facilities. Um, you know, I don't I don't take it kindly that you have specifically gave directive to the clerk
to disallow me from util utilizing the uh the chambers. Earlier that day, there was a the the mayor utilized the chambers for a a flag raising. Last week, Councilman Odin utilized the chambers without any recourse. And now you have corporation council that has
scheduled something that was scheduled actually the day after they saw a uh a live that I did where we had a a very probably the same amount of people that's in here today, you know, being there many many issues that that was
raised people that was illegally evicted. And so this is a double fold. one, I'm concerned about your your uh position in overstepping the authority of this of the chair. It's very concerning when people don't understand what their authority actually is. We are
all duly elected. We're all entitled to the same thing. And it's very disheartening that, you know, after receiving a several months of videos that the chamber was intentionally now being locked only only after the last few days when I put in a request to
utilize the chamber when it was actually not scheduled to be used. So, um, I would like you to answer to that, council president, because >> I would be honored to as soon as you're done. >> Okay. All right. Well, >> you're done. So, let me let me be clear
and I I'm glad that you brought it to this day is because you took it to Facebook live and disrespected me on Facebook Live and said I allow power to go to my head. So, let me be clear. There is a process that is followed through the clerk's office. When you want to utilize the city council
chambers, you reach out to the secretaries. It goes through the clerk to ensure that there's no overlapping with usage of having events in the chambers. I did not stop an event that you recently tried to have. on Monday when you when you reached out to the clerk for your event on Monday, the
clerk in turn says she stated to you that the the city is closed. So in order to have someone to come in to open up, it would it would have them to have to get paid double time. I was not asked if I should approve it or not approve it. That did not happen. I said there has to
be a clear process in place. And as you said, and I'm glad you pointed it out, corporation council followed the process. He sent the request in. it was available and he was put on the calendar. It's been that way and it's it's amazing to be that now as a female I'm the council president you have an
issue when there was men council presidents other people that serve the council president you never tried what you're doing now so I don't know if it's because Mims is here and we are of the same ethnicity that you feel that you should do what you're doing I'm not sure but this has been a process before I
became the council president I I've only been here since July 1st so I don't understand why there's a difference in in in standards if If you want to use the chambers, you follow the process just to ensure and I sent an email out only because there was an event placed
in the chambers that we had no idea about. It was to do some celebration. We were not aware. So that was sent out to ensure that anyone that wants to use the council chambers that they follow the same standards. Not just for council members. It wasn't just for council
members. It was for anyone that you wants to use the chambers. So, I'm glad that you made the request here known, but council president did not say you can't use the chambers, don't use the chambers. That is not true. I made a clear statement to anyone, not just you,
but any person that wants to use the chambers. They have to make sure it's clear to make sure that c the chambers is available. That has been the process forever. There needs to be an advanced notification of that so we're not overlapping. That is nothing new. and
that that's what was stated to you and I don't know what the issue was but I don't know what you were told or what was communicated to you but council president is not stopping usage of the chambers for any purpose however I will put this on the record when we are in
the chambers we if we're in the chambers and we want to do community business that's fine if we want to come here you want the community come in and you're talking to the community I I don't stop those issues at All so for you to say that I stopped you. I didn't stop you.
You have to follow the process. That's all it is. You got to follow the process. Um m we have a we have a presentation. >> I'm not finished. Council president Councilman Blesz for Mr. Murphy. I'm so sorry. We're supposed to do it earlier. You know I love you Mr. Murphy. So we're going to do it and then we'll come back.
I know Councilman Jackson has some more >> question. We're going to finish finalizing Mr. Murphy. We want to honor >> Council President. So, first of all, I never said you stopped me. There's not a person in this building that can stop me from doing what I'm entitled to. >> No, you did say that in your live. You said that. >> I did not say that.
>> Yes, you did. >> I said you made an attempt to stop me. >> No, you said I said >> Madam Clerk, >> just to be clear, after I spoke with you, did you not tell me that the council president said, "No, I cannot have it here because of whatever whatever reason she >> I never said that. >> She came up with
>> for the reasons that was stated." >> For the reasons. But you said that she said no. Correct. >> I didn't say no. She said that she told me >> I'm sorry, Council President. I have the floor. >> Yes. Let's let her speak. >> I'm speaking to the clerk. You're going to allow her to answer. >> She said no for those reasons.
>> She said no. Correct. >> For those reasons. >> Okay. Very good. So, let's get that straight. >> So, Council President, I'm not targeting you. I do the same thing. Councilman Mendes was tasked with the with the charge to put me in check. He failed.
You will not succeed in doing that. either. Okay. Uh you made a you made a a clear statement to the clerk that no, I cannot have use use to the of the chamber on Monday. And yet the administration
utilized the chamber without any issue. So if you're going to if you're going to attempt to be unfair, then you should be honest about it. I just wanted to make sure that this is clear that I'm duly elected. If I care to address the concerns of the public within these
chambers, this here is the people's house. Often whoever's in that presidency continues to try to deny access to this to this room and it would not happen. Now, furthermore, I don't understand how if the effort that I made, I didn't have
a flag raising. I didn't have a celebration. I had a a a community meeting where members of the public, a large number of members of the public are being mistreated by different uh uh landlords. And now corporation council
puts out a directive or a uh a memo on how we're bringing legal services. These members that's in our community, they don't need legal advice. They can't afford and and and I do see that this is a a free leg legal services, but there's legal aid that's
here. The city should be taking a position when we allow these developers to come into our community, overdevel develop our our our community, and then they take advantage of our residents. When residents are being mistreated and and and evicted at such alarming rates
and the fact that I didn't get specifically you council president, you should have been all in favor to ask how can you support this event, not how you could try to get in the way of it. >> Thank you. >> Furthermore, and lastly, I'll say this. Thank you, >> Madam Clerk. Has it been a practice of
yours throughout to lock the chambers every single night or were you given directives after we had that conversation to make sure that the chambers were locked? >> Well, I'm not necessarily the person that is tasked with that responsibility. >> Correct. But I couldn't help but notice
you night in and night out after we had that communication on the videotape that you were the one who was then tasked to lock the chambers. >> I have locked the chambers on several occasions. when I found that it was unlocked. >> Right. >> But were you were you specifically asked to to make sure the chambers was locked
>> after we had this conversation? >> No. >> I I'm trying to remember, but I I just know that I'm on that >> I don't want to put you on a on a seat, Madam Clerk, because I don't understand why she's trying to answer for you and force you to put put you in a position
to lie. Madame clerk, if there's a if there's a consistent if there's a consistency within your seat, within the purview of your responsibilities that you have not participated in over the last several years and then all of a sudden the doors being locked and people
are utilizing that with the with an agenda to keep Councilman Jackson out. That's all it is. Madam Clerk, I don't need you to answer. I we everybody knows what No, allow her to answer cuz I've never asked her a lot. I was answer I was asked to lock the chambers after a
certain group came in to use the chambers. Uh it was an outside entity >> and I was asked to lock the chambers. >> What outside entity? What outside entity? >> I don't recall the name of it. >> So you know and and I we I I'll make this because I'm going to publicize this
as well just for the public's uh uh understanding. Councilman VeZ wrote a long letter to the mayor in answer to the fact just so everybody understands these chambers belong to the city council. It doesn't belong to the administration. The second floor belongs to the administration. They don't make
decisions and choices. We collectively make decisions. If the council president wants to come up with new directives, it has to go through a council process. It has to go through a vote. She just doesn't get to arbitrarily make unilateral decisions on behalf of the council. That's not how this thing
works. And when we do that, we run the risk of disenfranchising the public because their representative is trying to do something on their behalf. >> So that's what I'm being clear about. Councilman Valz wrote writes a letter, a long letter that they go back and forth on where the where the the mayor then
begins to insult him about he he's using chat GPT and now he's going to say he's going to sue him. We're all on this strand. It which shows that there's all kinds of events. Javier Fernandez, who's the um the constituent services person,
utilizes the chamber for a celebration. I utilize the chamber and I put out a directive that I'm utilizing it for residents who have been dis uh uh illegally evicted, residents who are being charged for parking illegally. And yet I have not only agenda the agenda
from the administration, but fellow council members trying to prevent me from holding this meeting on behalf of residents. Not one of them stuck their head and we had multiple times we met with these residents. Kinyatta Stewart who who's not duly elected in Patterson offered his services to come here and
make sure that the residents had a clear understanding and and also providing what now corporation council finds fit to do so after we've had thousands of people calling. If you go to the courts right now and just get a a a report on
the numbers of evictions that's going on from Patterson, the numbers are staggering. And we as a as an elected body and as the administration did not find it fit or found it robbery not to pay attention to such actions. So I just wanted to make that clear. Council
President Counciloman, if you choose in the future to make unilateral decisions like that, it has to go through a process. I will say this once again for the record. I did not tell Madame Clerk at any time to lock any chamber. She made that clear. She said a group asked her. I wasn't
here. I did not tell her to lock. The chambers are always locked. DPW >> yet again. Council President in closing. >> Council President decisions about the chamber council. The clerk does not take direction from the administration. The
only group that the clerk takes direction to when it comes to the council chamber is the council. Nobody can give her directives on when to lock the door. Especially when she got a phone call from a council member who
says he wants to utilize the chamber on Monday at 6:00 and I got to find come and find the door lock. >> So if you didn't tell her then yet you're derelict again on your duty because she she informed you on >> one side. You said it's my duty. I was looking to utilize the chamber.
Councilwoman Dav give her director's name. Can you fail the counciloman Dava and then council? >> Oh, I I I want to thank you um council president and you know I don't like spewing things or trying to twist things
to try to look good or not good and make somebody look bad. But it's unfair to be told that corporation council prepared this after the meeting that you had uh councilman because there is a monthly calendar that
goes out and this was something that's been discussed on numerous occasions about what needs to be done for our constituency and the situations that are having you know with um evictions and for renters. And this was actually something that for Hispanic Heritage
Month, they said, "You know what? Let's do know your rights, right, for October 15th in closing of Hispanic Heritage Month." Th this didn't just happen. Okay? So, so I don't want anyone to say that it's because somebody is doing or they saw your video. No, let's not do
that. Let's not take away that this is a service, that it is important, that it is free, and anybody that's interested. October 15th, tomorrow, you can come here to the city council chambers because councilman Jackson said it. This is the council chambers. And yes, the
administration, not corporation council, did go through the process through the clerk to secure the timing. So, it's open for the constituency. All right. So, it'll be at 5:00. So, soon after offices close at 4:30. All right. You are able to come here. There's going to
be experts. there's going to be um uh legal questions answered uh for free. All right. And um let's I'm going to leave it at that. And they're working with a very good um nonprofit northeast uh New Jersey legis legal services. All
right. Which I know they're located at um Hamilton H. Yes. Uh Councilman Khal is first. All right. >> Councilman Khalik and then Councilman Mendes. >> One second. Let me just just in in closing, I just want to say um I'm just trying to be fair. And the last thing
I'm going to say is this. We as a council, you know, have to also respect the chambers and respect each other. We have a tendency and the situation that happened with our councilman who sent out an email and you discuss a a director uh uh um putting, you know,
requesting to use the chambers. He did bring an outside entity, but that's not what was in the books. the books. It was specific to constituent services, which is means all of you can come here and ask questions. And so when I found out, I went to the source. I went to the clerk and I went I didn't write the
emails out to blast anyone. There's no need for that. If you have respect for people, you pick up that phone and you say, "What happened?" After we found out what the situation was, all right, it is Hispanic Heritage Month. We are celebrating all different cultures and it happens that there's this
organization of which the director is part of and they've been here before. We do flag raisings with them. So this is not new. It was just a surprise to us and I'm going to tell you why. If you're going to do an event in the chambers and this goes to all the council or anyone
out there >> invite the council. This is our house here. This is the chamber. This is the council chambers. yet you do an event and you don't invite the council president or all of the rest of the council members or you pick and choose.
That's unacceptable. That is a disrespect to the council chambers. And the other thing that's a disrespect and I'll finish with this is >> you want to run for office, you have all the right to do so. >> But sitting in these seats and bashing
the council, that's unacceptable. You can't do that. Try doing that in a court. try doing that somewhere else. Unacceptable. Unequivocally not acceptable. And I think that we need to have more respect for our chambers. Thank you very much, >> Councilman Colleague. Councilman Mendes.
>> Thank you, Madame President. This is all new to me. Um it is new to me cuz when Sonia Gordon was over here here madame clerk I recall I did an event here. >> Yes.
>> And that's when I was on in term with the administration or whatn not. >> Yes. >> It was after hour at night time. >> So I had to I had to make the request with the madame clerk. >> Also I had to pay for the security. Yes. >> And the custodian. >> Yes.
>> I had to pay for my pocket cuz the city hall was closed. >> So now it seemed like is is open. You could most of us have a key. We could come in anytime we want. There's no security. There's nobody here and we could do whatever we want to do in this
in this city uh city hall. So there got to be >> some kind of uh >> ordinance or something in place. Yeah. >> Okay. Madam Cler, >> thank you C council member uh
>> thank you c counc council member. Thank you council president. I think that we we spent enough time talking about the schedule of the chamber. I know public portion is ready to to take place and I know we have a presentation but there's a process for everything. Some people they don't like to follow the process. Let's make it simple. Listen the we have
to put law order in the chamber order in the city. Uh I was council president for two year. I never had this problem. I don't know why all of the sun we got this discussion the process been the same two years when I was council president and it's still now with council president Mims I quite honestly I don't understand that and council
colleague is totally correct there's point that I I have some event and I have to pay out of my pocket for some security because the city cannot engage into this overtime process but there is a process and the clerk is there let's respect the clerk and let's respect the process you need a chamber you put a
request you want to invite you council ki be my guest You don't want to invite none of your council ki we cannot get upset for that. If I want to do an event and I don't want to invite none of my c this is not my case I love my council ki I invite everybody to my event all my council but if I want to do an event and I feel that I want I don't want to
invite my council ki I have the right >> as an elected official I have the right to use the chamber >> for whatever reason for the community so we cannot get upset if councilman Jackson put an event together and he only invite certain people because that's what he feel like he he's entitled to that so let's put it let's
let's let's move on I know we got public portion I know we another presentation and we got to get back into business. Thank you, Council >> President. Council, can you please do your Can you please do your presentation? Councilman, let's honor Mr. Tony. We apologize, Mr. Tony. We're
going into the um presentation first. >> DBW, >> no, we're doing presentation for Mr. Tony. That should have been earlier. >> He's been waiting. >> Council member, he been waiting too. Why is she going to call him last? God is good. Um all the time. So I just
want to before I do this presentation, I just want to clarify the record. That letter was not against anything that Councilman Jackson was doing here. And second, Councilman Mendes, uh if uh you have an event here, you don't want to invite me, I would invite myself. This is my house. I just kidding. Just
kidding. Just kidding. Ladies and gentlemen, this deserve u uh a relaxing moment for us here in the chambers. At the same time, I want to apologize and I know the council president just did uh to the Murphy family that been sitting
here since 6:30 waiting for this presentation. Um, if I going to read everything that says here, I know you would like to listen to this better than other things. But Tony Murphy is an
individual that um his character, his way to conduct himself as a constituents in the constituent in the fifth war, resident in the fifth ward. The communication that he transpired with his councilman that is myself um speaks
a lot. you know, nothing go unattended, nothing goes just because he just wanted to say it. So, uh, Mr. Tony Murphy, it's a resolution that was, uh, voted by us with the attention of my colleagues over
here. Thank you. Um, Tony Murphy for his years of service and contribution to the city of Patterson. And you all know that Mr. Murphy, no matter what, came back to the city, gave back to the city, and continue giving back to the city with
his blessing, his character, and dedicated to the youth in school 30, Martin Luther King School. So, Mr. Murphy, this is for you. Uh, please come forward. Um, I thought you had a twin over there sitting, but it's you over here.
Please come forward, take this honory, and you deserve a round of applause because you work work hard with the community. receive it. And you got some words. Um, yeah. I just want to thank the council. Thank you for honoring me. Um,
I know a couple people on the council. I coached their kids. Ruby coached they her kids. Mike coached his kids. and just want to say thank you. And it's, you know, I just do it to be doing it. I need points to get in heaven. So, I just
keep go. But I just want to thank you guys and my family. Thank you. We we all here, you know, but thanks a lot. >> God bless you. Let's take a picture here, please, in the middle of the chambers. and the family. Bring the
family too and the new addition. God bless that little girl. God bless her. >> Let's a granddaughter. Let's give him another round of applause to the Murphy family. God bless them. Thank you, Council President. We need an hour.
They want to know >> what happened. on three. One, two, and three. Hey, thank you. What's going on here? Item number uh can we do item 36 before >> public work? >> Yeah,
>> I know, but he only got one left. >> He only got one left. Item 36 for the offduty police officers. >> Uh Councilwoman, uh Council President, >> one second. 36. >> Uh, Tiffany, >> I wanted to say something before they
walked out the door >> for Murphy. >> Well, we're just trying to get this one item. You want to say something? >> Yeah. No, I just want to say um, congratulations to um, Tony Murphy. U, our children played together in 1999.
1999 to his wife, to his son, to his family. um 1999 to 2003 we were at Eastside High School. Our children played together from 99 to 2003. So congratulation again Tony Murphy.
>> Council President, >> uh director, can we go over just that one item, the police item for the offduty police or um officers? Director, can you go over it if it's similar to what we had last time or are we expanding it? And then we'll go right
into DPW items. >> It's on. Press the button. Now it's on. >> Okay. Now I got it. Okay. So this is a resolution appro approving the Patterson UE urban enterprise zone division of the
department of economic development to utilize 1.818476.96 818 476.96 of urban enterprise zone assistance funds a grant for quality of life
offduty public safety patrols in the commercial corridors. As you know we had two and 10. We're going to two and 16 also utilizing the cameras. They've
helped us repair them. And this will continue to be the next year, but expand because we've been using precisionbased and evidence-based policing through data. And we will have our comm center with
the cameras and the police officers doing the patrols in the streets where they're needed in the zone. And that's basically what this is all about. Any questions? will be more than happy. >> Before we move before we move forward, um I would just like to make a request
to get a um a list of the areas that we covered last time with the um call of service report to show what happened in those areas and then to look at the areas we're expanding to, whatever calls of service or police uh activity that has happened in those areas that are
connected to the UAZ zone. If we could see that, I'm happy that you're expanding it because that was something that some of the members on this council talked about on the deis and in public safety. Sure. So, I'm happy to see that. Councilman Mendes first. >> Thank you, Council President and
Director. Um, allocating from UEZ $1.8 million. I'm definitely full support. We We have to find any different ways to bring more police presence into our community, into our neighborhood, and using UE money. It's perfect. We're not using taxpayer dollars and we will have additional police power, police officer,
books on the ground. But I want to remind you that uh listen, East 33rd and Park Avenue is a US zone. Brea is a US zone. Broadway and East 33rd is a US zone. Yes. Uh that those area we didn't cover those area in the beginning.
Please add those area and just look around because I don't want to see the the $1.8 a million dollar resources going into one location specifically. We all live in the city of Patterson. We care about this community, but we have to take care of those area in need and
>> if we stay in contact, Councilman, if you would shoot me a text of the locations you were talking about, any of the council, please shoot me a text, shoot me an email, I'll put it. We have our weekend deployment meetings. We have our comstat meetings. We have our, you
know, precisionbased police meetings with the command staff and with UEZ. We'll be more than happy to address those areas, violent crime suppression units that are out there. Whatever you need, please, any of the council, all
you need to do is text me the areas and the hours that you're seeing these issues and we'll be more than happy to address. >> So, so you have three in record director. I will also send it to you again because I want to see police presence in those location under council president. >> Thank you Councilman Jackson.
>> Thank you council president. >> So where's the data? >> Where's the data? >> The data >> you just said. >> Yeah. >> So we before so this is we've been utilizing one how much did we utilize last year for this from UE.6
>> 1.6. Okay. So now we're going to 1.8. what each data each week >> and every month we do a comstat meeting. So every week on a I don't want to say what day but a specific week we'll do like a weekend deployment meeting and
we'll look at the calls for service. We'll look at the arrests. We'll look at the shooting stats. We'll look at the shot spotter data. We'll look at all of those locations and and use heat maps to find where those hot spots are. That's
what evidence-based policing is. >> So, where could where's the heat maps, director? >> There's going to be tons of them. We're at the police department. >> I don't see it being presented here. >> We don't They're not public documents that we provide to the public. We don't want people to know.
>> No, no, no, director. So, you're asking us you're asking me to support 1.8 $.8 million. >> Yes, I am. >> From UEE that could be supporting a small business or a number of different things >> to allocate it towards uh quality of life units or whatever the
case might be. >> I don't get to see the data of how effective the money that I spent last year is. >> It's all not it's it's not compartmentalized. What it is is it's expanded. Think about it. But it has to be units. There could be three quality
of life units out tonight. Tomorrow there could be two. The next week we could have violent crime suppression units in different locations. It's going to change. It's not something that's a a strict >> Is this 1.6 paying for violent crime
>> as well? >> It'll pay for anything in that urban enterprise zone that is criminalbased. >> But that doesn't make sense. Director, if you have officers, >> right? Help me understand this. Right.
If you have officers that are on duty and they they're on a violent crime unit or a drug prevention unit, whatever the case might be, >> just because we make take calls in the UE zone means we're going to reduce the budget for >> No. What you're going to do is you're trying to deter crime. So, you want to
stop crime before >> your job as the P director and and and the chief of police. >> Yes. >> Stopping deterring crime. Right now, what we're talking about, what you have standing next to you is the director of economic development, the UEE director.
So, we're being accountable right now for the money that we're spending on UEE. You already got a multi-million dollar budget of your own to handle and do certain things. >> I want to be I want to be frank with you. You want want to know, Councilman, we have
>> a a table of organization of 439 police officers in the city of Patterson. On a good day, we're lucky if we're make that 400. Jersey City, Norc are in the thousand. >> Are you kidding me? In this city of
Patterson with the residents that we have in this small 8.6 square miles, >> we should have a thousand police officers here. And we're going to be coming back to the public safety committee with another proposal that we
have to put more police presence because we don't have enough police officers. We need more and that's the reality of this helps us supplement. >> So the 1.8 >> will supplement it. >> I don't want to hear supplement. The 1.8
you telling me we need more officers. 1.8 allows you to hire how many more officers? This is going to give us 16 and two supervisors. >> 16 new officers. >> No, >> no, >> you're going to these will be off duty officers. >> Okay. So, off duty cops to pay the
benefits >> are going to be able to make more money right on this dime. I'm looking for the performance report. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm saying >> accountable. Right now, as I walked in,
there was a big fight across the street. Somebody getting jumped, beat over the head. >> Sure. 15. I looked out the window. 15 20 or so uh uh uh units out there. >> Are you telling me because that's uee. We're deducting it from the 1.8. >> No.
>> So what I'm saying is again I'm going to get back to the uee. Um whatever you want, council. He should be will prepare for you. But director, we're asking for a vote next week and he should be presenting >> because it's worked. It's worked. It's
worked. >> How do I know it worked if I'm not given a report? >> It's in the document. Look at the document. >> Within your package, there's information related to the crime data that has been provided by the police department. No, there was an an extensive attachment
that was included with the legislation provided by the UEZ director. Okay. >> Was it given to the clerk office backing in the car? >> Was it given to the clerk's office? >> It was. >> So, we don't have we don't have those data sheets to share with the they they they nobody brought them here to share
with the public. >> No, that's the UBC. That's the strategic plan. That's not >> the plan. That's >> uh So, it was presented to the clerk's office. You're saying it was? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, we need to get a copy. >> It's in our packet, Madam Clerk. It's in our packet.
>> I sent it to everyone if All right. So, this is attached to item number 36. >> No, that's different. >> That's different. >> That's different. Council member, they're saying what the call data report >> for something different. >> He has it, right? >> So, so, so the point Listen.
>> Okay. >> So, just one second. >> Should be in your packets there, >> director. So, if Councilman Jackson is asking, then we should be reading from that report. If it's something you gave us, can we just read from that report? Because he's asking questions. We need to hear the data
>> from last year. >> That's what he's talking about. Yes. >> From last year. >> Okay. >> The 2024 25. We go from >> Yeah. Got it. >> Parking summones with traffic issues.
1121 uh quality actions taken as a result. Summones. Moving violations 86 TCOPs are city ordinances eight
1048s which is checking a business that a 1048 is a police code when an officer goes gets out checks a door checks a business goes inside talks 1048s they did 14,385
eight arrests and the assign assignments for assistance and assignments like calls for service they did 2464. So that's last year's data and it's broken down by
month. If you see it, you'll see it's like weekly. You'll see September 12th to the 15th, September 19th to the 22nd, September 26th to the 29th. It's all data driven. We meet and we discuss this and then we
decide where can we put this to prevent from occurring. This is not driven for enforcement. This is driven to prevent crime and to reduce it. >> So I'm going just say this, director, cuz I I'm just going by what I know,
right? >> Yeah. >> Uh,00 parking violations. >> Yes. So you're telling me that I want I want to see a full report on those 1100 parking violations. What I see is targeted parking violations all over.
Only eight T cops. So we spend 1.6 only eight T cops. So only eight and then what what do we have here? Eight arrests and eight T cops. >> This is more about visibility and reducing cost. >> But we're targeting residents by banging them with parking violations. I don't I
don't think >> it doesn't distinguish between residents or >> and when you >> Okay. So, that's to my point. What I know is when I come outside and I'm seeing I'm hearing complaints from residents and I'm seeing the the excessive towing in certain specific
areas that don't really outline the the UEZ. And I'll show you my phone, Councilman, from people and residents in this city calling nonstop, their driveway blocked, >> calling because there's a fire hydrant blocked, calling because they can't get
down their street, calling because What are we supposed to do? What am I supposed to say? I'm not going to help you. No, I'm going to go and tow your car and I'm going to help you 3 4:00 in the morning and you do respond. Yes. for blocked driveways. I still have people that's saying they can't get a police
response for a block driveway, but we're not talking about that. We're talking about we're talking about officers driving around at 3 4:00 in the morning and targeting cars that's parked on the corners. We're not talking about officers targeting cuz what I would like to see is a more specific the corner.
Are they are they in violation of the law? Are you saying that we should we should have a double standard and ignore when the one is on the corner violating the law? I don't appreciate. We got to have a
standard sarcasm. What I want to see is not serious. I want to have residents that can get a call for response faster, not an officer just banging tickets in the middle of the night targeting in a in a tow company making thousands of dollars.
I'm sorry. Goes back to that 439 when you talk about calls for service. Yeah, but director, I need a more detailed report. I want to see the tickets that that are being issued. I want to see these tickets that's being issued. See if they've been issued in front of businesses. See if they've been issued
for block driveways. See if they've been issued for for block fire hydrants or are they just uh tickets that's being maliciously written in 3 or 4:00 in the morning. Listen, director, you know I'm up three or >> four. Councilman Jackson, what we will
do is we will provide you with more data in in advance of next week's meeting. You'll have the information from the police department that will break down exactly what we're spending on. And I want to see exactly if we're taking money from UEZ that could be utilized
for someplace else just for PD overtime. That's not acceptable. >> We need we need the support. We need the boots on the ground. And I can tell you, Councilman, being in this for 42 years, it'll be before I would let a police
officer target anyone, they'd have some problem with me because I've been doing this for 42 years. I don't target people. What I do is look at violations and dangerous conditions and that's what I ask them to address.
That's it. Simple. Not who, what, basically the violation. And what can it do? Can it a house catch on fire and I can't get to that fire hydrant with my fire department? Can I have somebody on a corner and I can't get the hook and
ladder around it? There's so many different issues. I could go on and on and on. For 42 years, I've been there and I've done it. And believe me, I talk to people that cars towed and I've been on top of it to make sure that we do
everything we can, especially someone that can't afford it and made a mistake. I'm the first one that'll be over at the towing company and you go check. >> Thank you. We'll put this item on regular. Madame clerk, we're going to open up. Council >> President, we're going to open up. >> Council President, may I please? >> Councilman BZ.
>> Thank you, Council President. Director. >> Yes, sir. council. >> You know, the reality is to the residents of Patterson >> and look at the numbers. 2010
we have 146,999 residents in the city of Patterson based on the based on the data of census. That's without counting the people didn't want to get count. and we had a 497 full-time cops.
2025 we have 160,463 individuals live in the city of Patterson. That's without counting the individual did not want to get count. So we could say we a little bit more of residents and we have only 402 cops in the city of Patterson. Something is
wrong. >> Yes sir. Nobody's looking at Patterson in a serious way. Not even the governor, not even the federal, not even the county or whatever. We need help and we need more cops. That's the truth of this matter here.
>> Amen. >> We could sit down and talk and we could put the money where the where it's supposed to be, but we still burning those cops. burning them because they have to do four days off, four days in plus they
have to put money on the table, you know, food on the table because the low pay they get is 30 something who going to be attracted to come to Patterson to be a police officer. >> So this this money what I expect the UEC
is expecting to do it in the corridors of the city of Patterson the in in the UE zone. What we want to see is more proactive, more arrest, more but they need the tools, but we need the police officer. >> You got it. If if if I I'm the and
council president, I'm the one that called the p this patch a lot >> and you know sometime they get tired >> and and and and one thing I could say is >> and and and one thing I could say is that the amount of calls that they
receive for the little things you imagine the big things the big things sometimes we had to put ourself council president can you Please can we >> can you please Mr. >> Deorum please
>> the corum please? >> Council member Laz. >> So last but not least and and I don't want to enterain this more I understand the money is being >> and this also pays for the equipment the cows the repairs to the cows. What we
ask directors is that when you guys come to use utilize UE money in the past, you have listened to us that we want more police present 10 Avenue, more in Park Avenue, more in in Market Street, not just dedicated on one section of the
city. Okay? And we all understand that. But look at the reality of is we still growing. We still building in the city of Patterson. More people are coming into the city of Patterson. what this administration is going to do to bring real real uh amount of caps into
Patterson because we could celebrate that 20 is graduating today. You know how many people are leaving because Homeland Security is giving $55,000 more. Give me that list. I know there's about five or six individuals leaving. Mr. >> President, I director
>> director you could bring that and that's and that's public record. They are more than five or 10 cops already because Homeland Security is giving them more money to go to the federal government. So, we losing cops. So, what's the plan of the administration to keep attracted
cops in the city of Pas. Thank you, Counc. >> So, >> very quickly, >> uh, Councilman Jackson, and then we're going to open up public. >> What I'm going to say is this, director, >> what I'm going to say is this. >> You know, I'm talking 86 moving violations. If you put a cop right on
the corner of Ward and and and Maine, just Ward and Maine alone, the number of cars making left turns from the right lane. So this is the this the UE zone. If you go on the corner of Maine and Broadway,
you could just sit out there all day. You could pick the crime you want to choose. >> My point is this is you can't sit there all day. So director >> when I have >> it's not feasible >> 86 when when I
>> moving summones only 86. Do you understand how many mo how many cars commit a moving violation? Like every single minute you go on the corner just absolutely just you could put one cop there in in in in a >> so councilman with the expanded number of police officers that will be deployed
in throughout the city in the US. I'm sorry. Please don't cut me off. Let me track Let me let me finish with my thought. If you're not providing to me the correct data, right, then I then I'm forced to go by what I'm seeing in in
the community, right? I'm telling you that right here on Market Street in front of City Hall, you just go any single day and you got double parking like crazy. So when I see a report that says 100 a thousand plus uh uh parking
summones, that's not that's not part. >> So you have to look at the time that they were deployed, right? So they're not doing 24-hour shifts. There's, you know, they're broken up into different shifts that they're working and they're moving. >> So to that point, >> they're not they're not stationary in
one location. quality of life in the uee. For the uee to take funds from their money to pay for quality of life things, it should not be 1:00 a.m. Businesses don't operate. No business sees a benefit from UEE funds at 1:00
a.m. Unless somebody's breaking into their facility, which right here across the street, you can see a guy sleeping right in front of all the stores every night with cardboard boxes there. Are we not Is that not a crime? Are we not removing those people in front of the businesses that's defecating in front of the storefronts? I'm trying to
understand from this money. I'm not talking about his budget where we got to do policing the fight. We got to fight for extra police officers. That's not what we're talking about right now. What we're talking about is $1.8 million for the specific corridors of the UEE and
the the accountability for policing for this money. We're not talking about everything else. Yeah, we know it's tons of problems. Keep in mind these are state funds so compliance is required and so we have to supply them with the data as well. It just does not come to
city council for just to review and approval. >> This data may be suitable for somebody else. >> We have to be accountable to the state. These are their funds that we are receiving. >> I respect that. And the state they don't look because they don't they're not here. So they don't they may not look at it from the perspective.
>> No, but there are quarterly meetings that we have to report. this needs a state vote, then present it to the state. Let them vote for it. But if I'm being asked to support this, I want to know what is it? How is it impacting the community? And if we did a better job of all of the money that came through here,
to Councilman Veles's point, then we wouldn't have such a large problem with, you know, misappropriation of funds and how the administration is not doing certain things. I'm just trying to be accountable for what is what's being presented to me. If it's $1.8 8 million for policing in the corridor. I would
like to see what's happening there. Got it. Don't give me an overall data sheet with no supportive data. It's not telling me where these tickets are written, what time these tickets are written. >> So, if you want us to drill down on the data, we can definitely do that. The police data is not meant to be as descriptive. And again, it's
>> a lot of information has to remain, you know, private. It cannot be released to the public. how it tickets where they're being written, when they're being written, how who's being >> we can provide the locations as to where those >> we're just going to take skim off everybody's budget just to provide it to
PD. Then let's say that's what it is. We need extra money for PD. Let's give them extra money so they can do overall policing. >> It's not just extra money for the police department. This is a quality of life issue that Patterson has been having difficulties with for the past several years.
>> But director, I'm going make this last point. I'm going to make this last point. If I could walk outside our main street right now, which is the absolute main uee corridor and you're telling me when we don't have garbage cans being kicked over every single night, when we
wake up and it's flooded with trash and we wake up and there's people pissing and urinating in front of people's businesses, this is money specifically for the UEE corridor. This is not money for policing to approve it because then you would have additional on those street corners.
Director, >> wait a minute. Director, it's only increasing from 1.6 to 1.8. You already spent 1.6 last year. What I'm talking about is the results of the 1.6 from last year. I'm not talking about So you saying this is why >> we can provide you with the documentation.
>> Yeah, but director, if I'm not holding the the PD accountable for what they're doing with this money, that means they're going to do it any anywhere else. When the mayor calls for the six ward and other things that they have that's outside of the UEZ, that's what's going to happen. So if you're telling if you're giving me that we only had of all
these summons one a thousand tickets and only 86 moving violations in the UEE zone that just doesn't make sense to me. I would think you could get thousands in in one year maybe 2500 moving violations which would then train people that they
just can't do whatever the hell they want to do in Patterson. Make illegal left-hand turns from the right lane and etc. It's going out like crazy. blocking the box. Maybe you you're not traveling out down Ward Street every day at 3:00. It's a it's gridlock. People just
illegally breaking the law. That's a UEZ corridor. But listen, if everybody else finds this to be suitable, then I'll give my no vote and I just do it. Keep it moving. But I'm asking for the reports >> that we we should have the UE director should have been on this. He should have
it's his money from his budget. We're just going to say, "Oh, okay. It's for PD. Let them however you want to spend it." Not to say I don't respect cuz I called them. Nobody calls them probably I think we all call them just equally as much. But 3 or 4:00 in the morning for a UE corridor to be spending uee funds for
them to be writing tickets on the corner of North Fourth Street, Temple Street, all these other streets in the middle of the night. I don't think how I don't see how that's benefiting 1.8. But that's just my point. >> Thank you, Councilman Mendes. Councilman Odin. >> I thank you and I will be extremely brief. Director, just pay attention.
Councilman Jackson is saying um it's very clear and I totally agree. In the beginning I mentioned and I'm supporting I'm in full support of this project because I understand that we're underst staffed. We understand we don't have the amount of police officers that we need to patrol the city of Patterson. We
talking about 160,000 but the reality we have close to 200,000 people living in the city of Patterson. Close or more than 200,000 on the air square mile. I understand all the challenges that we facing in term of the police department. We we going through that all the time. I
call the the radio room every night and when I call people have to wait two or three hours for a police officer to arrive at the scene because we don't have enough police officer and I feel bad for really bad for our police department because I mean they going job after job. they have no break and I
understand that we going through that but at the same time Councilman Jackson's talking about the how this money is going to impact directly our commercial corridor let's not lose track of that let's stay there because people here they double park and they don't care uh you go to downtown you go to any
commercial area park cabin at le 33rd and I mentioned that at the beginning they double park and they stay there for two or three hour and nobody care causing accident creating problem in the community. So we have to address those specific problem because we allocating
UEC funding to take care our UEC commercial business. So so let's not lose track. I understand what the problem that we facing with our police department but make sure that this money reflect what we looking for. I mean we we're on track but don't you just pay
attention to that and I mentioned those three location because I see the problem. I see people to park and when I try when I try to let them you listen I try to make them move I you're not a police officer and you know what they do with their hand you know what they tell me thank you >> you know and I call the radio room and
guess what we have to wait two or three hours so if we allocating money for the US zone let's make sure that those police officer address the US zone double park all the nonsense that we have in the city of Patterson because when people say everything goes in
Patterson it's because when when They go to Heldon or Clifton, they act the way they supposed to act. They don't speed. They slow down. They don't d They don't double park. Here in Patterson, they do everything. So, it's our job to address our problem. >> Thank you, Councilman Odin. And then
we'll open public portion. >> Thank you, Council President. Um, before I speak, uh, multiple time Councilman Jackson mentioned about 3:00 in the morning. Is it shift 2:00 p.m. to 10 p.m.? Isn't it? So we actually covering with that from 2:00 p.m. to 10 p.m.
That's a pretty much business hours. And I'm talking about let me talk about the frustration level that especially about patter 2 3 4 hours director you know how many times you get messages from me how many times I call personally as well on people's behalf. That's actually
citywide issues that's taking place. People don't save here most of the time. Trust me uh if any accident takes place people rather like to dismissing themselves rather than just waiting on the street for 5 6 hours that's what we are going through and I understand the crisis that
>> like I said me mentioned >> I come in at 6:30 in the morning right >> right >> when I get in at 6:30 I call and I ask how many jobs we have holding >> it could be a Monday absolutely >> 6:30
>> and they'll tell me 29 jobs >> holding Right. >> Think of that. >> I I agree that >> you're 29 in the hole >> at 6:30 in the morning. >> In the morning. >> So, you're going to go by the criteria of how serious and go down.
>> Director, I I I completely agree what you what you what you have stated and I myself visited the dispatch center and I saw how >> this is so helpful. >> How many jobs on pending? Yes, I I totally agree with this. But one thing director you should and I I personally
sat down with you >> uh to about two years ago that when there is a uh shooting or certain serious uh issue takes place in certain part of the city we say the other side of Patterson completely empty no police available that happens just know this
>> sure >> let's day before yesterday there are three accident report at the same time people called me personally um and I called dispense center and they said oh there is an uh serious incident takes place and no unit available at this time
that's a response scheme and I'm talking about the complete scenario when one side of Patterson is completely busy with all the units available at that point just for one serious incident then rest of Patterson no police unit
available if anything else can happen so we have to strategize ourselves in certain way >> we you know it's based based on the computerated dispatch and that prioritizes the jobs and tells how many, where, when
to send. We have a plan to meet with our chairwoman from public safety and our public safety committee over the course of the next week. We're putting something together now that may help us with more police officers. I think it's
a a solution, a short-term solution, but we do have something coming forward and it'll be coming before the council. AB >> absolutely and I 100% agreed what director is saying, but the number that required at this point based on the um
last census 2020 it says 170,000. We we have over 120 thou 200,000 people living in our city at this point. That's the truth. I 100% agree that we need to hire more police officers and this is not going to be a dramatic change next day tomorrow.
It will take I would say few years but at the same time a director that when we are talking about think about the suffering there this shooting took place all the units busy with that serious situation where someone is on the street
with their families 5 6 hours just for a small accident report. I sit down with you also. I spoke to um officer in charge Abasi as well. You were in the meeting as well. He was the one initiated auxiliary police officers in in New York. I spoke to him. I said why
not we have certain strategy where auxiliary officers or class 2 officers can focus on those petty crimes and the regular officers can deal with the real situation. We have to find a solution. We cannot just blame on shortage.
shortage over the years. >> That is exactly what I was talking about. I don't want to say something before I bring it to my chairwoman from public safety, but we are drawing something up that we are writing and drafting right now that's got to go
through legal. Legal's already on it with us. >> You will see what I'm talking about. We will be bringing it back to you and it's a solution for what you are saying. So just be patient. We're going through the process right now and you will see it
shortly. >> It's very important. >> We do have a plan. >> Thank thank you director. Now let me come to the uh particular agenda that we are speaking about and I would say uh first of all positive response that I call for three different section pretty
much regular basis. Union Avenue, Main Street and 21st. that three particular business areas I visit regular basis and I call and I see the positive response that when police presence on Union Avenue I have seen even yesterday and
when I was parking I saw there's a unit just driving around and no double park so we cannot really just say with the how many tickets were issued how many moving violation with that we cannot judge the performance rate I personally believe that because if police presence
there people scared to violate the rule That's exactly what happens. We need to see more police officers presence, of course, business corridors. We want to see businesses feeling safe to come to our city. The people, the shoppers also feel safe to shop in our city. That's
exactly what we need to see. We need to bring more more commerce here in our city than more people in our city. So, this is I am completely with you uh with that agenda particularly. But again, we have to strategize ourselves. We we
should have like listen we we can do we have thousands of excuses and excuse will be always there but with that shortcomings we have to find still that what can we do with limited budget that we have cuz I completely agree that what
Patterson police department is going through at the same time what Patterson residents is going through if we say what residents is not doing they are doing with their level best the the the amount of taxes we are paying in the city of Patterson trust me in others other other neighborhood cities where
they are getting 100% you know uh satisfaction from the services from the city they're pretty pretty much paying the same amount that we are paying here in patter so we cannot really blame the resident but we have to find that where we can cut our uh uh expenses and where
we should uh provide more support especially the safety >> so thank you director >> right before so director there were a lot of requests and asks that were made this item will be on regular for next week. Please make sure that this information is presented between um
immediately so that they have time to review and if they have questions, council members, please send your questions and a request to the director and to the uh to the director of economic development and the police do director. Council, I recommend this item be tabled so we can have a full-fledged
uh vetting and and and workshop. I don't know what councilman was talking about. First of all, I know that when I call PD and I ask when is quality of life units come on, mo all quality of life units primarily come on after 10:00 p.m. >> Yes. >> One Councilman just asked the question
that this this this this budget is specifically allowed between 10 and uh 2 2:00 p.m. to 10 p.m. Most of the quality of life units come on at 10 10 p.m. And most of the time those quality life units, they're a offduty officer getting overtime. And most of those units o
those officers are ranking file officers. So sergeants, lieutenants, you know, people that are working as units that's, you know, standing around. So what I'm talking about is >> you we could speculate all we want to. We can't do anything unless we have a full-fledged report. That way we can see
the times that these is these summones be have been issued. If primarily we're talking about this 1.8 8 from 2 to 10. Then we should have a report saying here's the summones that been that's been written during these times. Here's the arrest that's been made at this
times in these zones. That whole map that you talking about the red overlapping. If we don't have access to that, how are we expecting? We're just supposed to take somebody's word for it that this is what we're doing. No, we have to be responsible. That's how that's what the council's job is to be
responsible on the spending. all that other talk about what what somebody uh uh people that's waiting for calls for. We we know we're short on officers. How you going to talk about we we're going to put more officers on the on the ground? We can't even close our budget.
We had we had a $3 million budget shortfall and we're sitting here talking about a $1.8 million expenditure and we're not being responsible, accountable on how it's being spent. That's the only point I'm making. Listen, I you guys are going to do what you're going to do anyway. >> So, this item is needed. We're going to
move it forward for regular. We fought the council members. We fought for this item. We fought, Council Member LZ is not here. Council Mott and different ones. We fought to expand it. The money was expanded. We fought again to expand
it to increase it specifically in the first, fourth, and the fifth ward. And there's some areas in third. And so, we're not going to remove it. We need police presence. That's what everybody talked about. And if we take it away, then we're not going to get the president. So, we have to make sure we stay to task. It'll be on regular.
People could vote it up or down. Just provide the information on next week. Madame clerk, let's open up public portion, please. Thank you. >> Public portion, madam clerk. >> Yes. >> Um, so just a few rules before we start public portion. >> In public portion, you have three
minutes. The timer will go on as immediately as you come to the microphone. So, please adhere to uh to the rules of that. the same respect that we're asking from the deis to the community. We ask the same from the community to the deis. Um we respect
that you've come down and we thank you. We appreciate that. Um at this time, first speaker, madam clerk. >> Yes. The first speaker is Ernest Rucker. Please state your name and address. Thank you. >> Ernest Rucker, Patterson, New Jersey. Uh I want to begin with first I want even
though he's not here uh to thank Councilman Valz for finally making an appointment to the rent leveling board and I'm here to talk about that. I saw what corporation council passed out. First of all the rent leing board is one
of the most important boards of any city. It helps tenants and we have an ordinance on the books that's so weak and I believe was purposely done to see this board disappear.
What is here on this paper is something we use at the meeting and we've had people come in to train the public on it. They stopped televising us for what reason I have no idea. And every time I talked with the director concerning this
of human services, why haven't we gotten the amendments that we've requested? He tells me it's corporation council's fault. Then it's his fault. I don't know whose fault it is, but I know damn good and well if you're talking about serving
the public and serving the people of Patterson, you can't have no doing boards with no power. New York, Jersey City, even Pake, a smaller city, got smart enough to understand if they didn't strengthen their rent leveling board to protect
tenants and and also landlords that's being abused that they could not survive utilizing that legislation. So, I'm going to say now, corporation council, you're going to get a list of amendments.
I don't want to hear though. Oh, it's Joel's fault. I don't want Joel to tell me it's your fault. I'm looking for results. You can't have a a legislation on the books that does nothing for the tenants.
Nothing. You You Who made a decision to stop televising? I don't know. Because they didn't want they didn't want the public to hear how bad it was and how much less power we had. We need this
council to do its due diligence as well. We have amendments coming up. We're going to bring you copies from other cities. And tell me, I dare any one of you to tell me that our ordinance has any bones to it at all, any teeth. This
was done purposely. And you wonder why people leave that board, why people don't want to take that commission. More people have turned down the commission on rent leveling than any other board in the city. Matter of fact, I don't know a board that turns down a commission other
than written leveling. It is time that you serve the people that put you there until the state, which we're working with the state now. Take give me 30 seconds, please. We're working with the state now to have state
legislation put on the books so it can guide councils what they need to do and what they need to put into the into their ordinances for it to work. Ladies and gentlemen, it's been a pleasure. >> Thank you, Mr. Rocker. >> I you know I'm going close it
>> in closing. I noticed and you I guess you wonder why I don't come back as much as I I used to is the arguing. Please stop it. >> Thank you. Next speaker, Madam Clerk.
>> The next speaker is Adrienne Tulie. >> Please state your name and your address. Thank you. >> Good evening, Miss Tulie. Uh, thank you for having me here tonight. Um, I did email all of you. Um, there's still an ongoing matter at um, Phillips Academy
Charter School with Dr. Dwayne Davis. I did not hear from any of you besides Mr. Jackson. Thank you for your continued diligence, Mr. Jackson. I did speak to you, Mrs. Cotton. And I I just was a little taken back. I had some kids in a
car and I had an adult in a car and they just were a little beside themselves just about your tone and hostility when you were talking to me and you seemed just to be almost at your wits ends. and and and I had a hard time processing
that because I I had to pull over because I wanted to meet your intensity, you know, and everybody said, "If if it has to be like that, you should have just disconnected the call." I'm like, "But she's a leader of the community." And I I I came to her and she called me
because I had stopped down to her her office and it was the second time. And you just came across real short and nasty and snippy. And you you may mention that what happened to my daughter, she wasn't the first. No, I have to tell you, sister, and I want to
pronounce my E and R with that sister. She was the first, but she will in fact be the last to be put out of school for reasons, harassment, retaliation, and discrimination. She will absolutely be the last. And you may mention about me
being her her best advocate. I I am and I did take a lot of your pointers and I thanked you for the pointers that you gave me. But when I came here, um this this council, you you you do have power. When somebody comes to you and says
somebody is in the city of Patterson, who is mistreating children, who is mistreating parents, who is acting in opposition of how they should be acting, this council has a due diligence to make an inquiry as to what is going on when a
child is put out of school. Now, if this child happened to look like anybody else other than you, Councilman Memes, and and and and Mr. Jackson, they would be on their hind legs. somebody did that to their one of their kind. Listen, you you you would see Listen, I'm telling you,
we wouldn't be able to stop them about somebody being in the community acting in opposition. Now, this man had a Facebook posting where he's talking about he likes to uh fu uh we'll say chicken kicking uh on the
first date. I brought this to you all's attention. you you you came down off the stage, you act like you were concerned and and that just, you know, fell apart. And then I told you additionally what this man is doing. I I recently filed a petition um with the Office of
Administrative Law. We had a court appearing well via Zoom last Friday and we have another one coming up on the 22nd. So I am filing complaints. I am moving. >> Thank you. Next speaker, Madame Clerk. >> Yes. >> Next speaker is Joel Keys Jr.
Mr. Keys, >> state your name kindly and your address. >> Dr.Wami Torres said, quote, "We tell you from the very beginning, we never taken the line of others that the biggest problem we have is we ourselves." No,
our biggest problem is our enemy, capitalism, and it must be transformed." Dr. Leonard Jeff describes the values of capitalism as the ice individualism, competition, and exploitation, which
means we compete against each other and exploit each other trying to climb up the political and social mobility ladders. Contrary to the capitalist values of the ice and ancient African societies, they practice communalism,
which contains the values of the three C's, cooperative, collective, and communal. The primary difference between the two is that communalism promotes a socialization process that results in a collective come up where the masses are
taken care of and not left behind to be exploited. On the other hand, capitalism promotes a socialization process that results in individual come-ups which leaves the masses behind and vulnerable to economic exploitation. Because
capitalism only survives if there's an economically poor class to exploit. If there was a collective come up in capitalism, the system would collapse. That's why in the African-American community, we have individual millionaires and individual
billionaires. While the collective remains vulnerable to systemic oppression, Tim Wise describes the dynamics of this socialization process that I call escape from the hood. During segregation, Tim Wise explains, quote,
"The purpose of education was social and collective. For black folks, it was all of us or none of us. It wasn't about you go get your degree and then get out and go make a lot of money and leave everybody else behind." Tim Wise continues, quote, "But I meet
educators who will tell black children, brown children, and poor children of all races that the best thing they can do is get an education. Why? so they can get out of their environment. I want you to think about that when you say to somebody so you can get up and make something of yourself and get out of
where you from." Tim Wise concludes, quote, "This shouldn't be about telling people to get up and out." It ought to be about getting people thinking about how to transform the spaces that they're from, how to create a different reality. But we don't think about education that way
because we're so busy trying to make sure everybody can get out and get a little dough." unquote. Councilman Jackson got a college degree, but he didn't escape from the hood. He's determined to execute this socialization transformation from capitalism's individual come-ups to communalism's
collective come-ups. And he's committed to accomplishing it by using the money that his administration will receive from the state for the people instead of keeping it for himself and the developers like this current administration does, which is the process of gentrification. Thank you.
Thank you. Next speaker, madame clerk. >> Next speaker is Oria Apante. Please state your name and address. >> Good evening, council members. Um, my name is Oria Ponte. Uh, it is domestic violence awareness month and I wanted to
share my current story with you all. My name is Aria and for 800 days I've been trapped in a relentless storm of torment since I filed my restraining order against my abuser. Every time I walk in a courtroom, I lose something. I lose hours from work. I lose income I desperately need. And then to add insult
to my injuries, my wages are garnished. Not because I did something wrong, but because my abuser knows how to turn the system into a weapon. He's not seeking justice. He's seeking control. And somehow the system helps him do it. He isolates me. He cuts me off from friends and family and for anyone who might
help. Babysitters quit out of fear. Loved ones keeping their distance. And I'm left alone on purpose. He tracks my phone. He monitors my job. He watches my every move. He sends false reports to police, to DCPN, the courts, lies, all
of them disproven. But each lie causes me time, money, and my sanity. He strangled me in my sleep. He's hurt me while I was pregnant. He threatened to kill me. He's threatened my home. He's hurt those. And all of that is caught on video. And still
nothing's happened. The prosecutors don't act. The courts delay. Every adjournment because becomes another month of fear, another month of silent dressed up as a dual process. DCPN won't step in. The system just looks away. And
now he uses our daughter. He tells her what to say. He disrupts her schooling, confuses her, hurts her, and she's only two years old. Two years old. And already showing clear signs of trauma. But when I tried to get her help, I was told she's too young for therapy. She's
too young for care. She's too young for protection. As if trauma waits for children to turn 5 years old. And even when care exists, it's unaffordable. Therapy costs more than rents. When you're missing work and fighting court battles and trying to survive, how do
you afford to heal? The abuse don't stop at home. It's online now. And he unleashed his followers to harass me and to threaten me. They destroyed my business, my reputation, and my peace. And again, no actions, no consequences, and no help. People hear my story and
they say, "Wow, that's outrageous." But they're not outraged enough to help end it. I'm not just here to survive this. I've written bills. I've drafted policies. I have solutions. I just need someone to listen. Someone who's going
to act. How can abuse escalate after seeking help from the very authorities and courts meant to protect me? How am I supposed to feel when my last resort, the courts and law enforcement subject me to even more violence? How am I to
trust that I will be safe when I've been threatened in police stations, in courtrooms, and no action has been taken against my abuser? How am I supposed to feel safe when a restraining order has been violated three times and I still
receive death threats and harassment with no consequences? May I finish this last portion? How am I supposed to feel safe when every moment >> 30 seconds if you can do 30 seconds >> sorry >> 30 seconds if you can do >> whether I'm sleeping waking up taking my daughter to school or enduring custody
exchange puts in puts me in harm's way at what point and at what time is safety ever truly mine when the system that promised to protect me continuously fails to shield me from danger it claims to prevent I'm a mother I'm a survivor I'm a fighter and I'm not a victim fear
is real the trauma is real and the evidence is real I'm here. I'm standing. And I will not be erased. We stand against domestic violence. We stand against domestic violence. Please do something. Please don't let me be another person on the news with rest in
peace. Please. And remember my face because I hope this is not the last time you see me. Please do something. Make legislation. Thank you. >> Thank you, Aria. Next speaker, Madame Clerk. The next
speaker is Imani Garcia. Please state your name and address. Thank you. >> Hello, my name is Ammani Garcia. I have been friends with Arias's teenagers. Aria's hardworking, determined, driven, goal oriented, small business owner,
uplifting women in in her space throughout each dance lesson she provides to her students. For the past 800 plus days, friends and family members have witnessed trauma since her early course of her pregnancy. From mistreatment, verbal abuse, threats,
narcissism, mental abuse from someone confided in the name of love and partnership. Aria has faced significant challenges and trauma throughout her life, particularly during her pregnancy while also being a supportive empowering figures for other for others. Her
resilience and dedication to uplifting women through her dance lessons are commendable. Aria's transition to single motherhood has marked was marked by immense challenges including various forms of abuse and extortion that took a toll on her
emotional and mental health leaving permanent scars on her journey of motherhood which is supposed to be a beautiful positive experience. These struggles are not only affected her but also strained our friendship leading to a year of silence between us. The love
was never lost just placed at a distance. Aria's child father stalked me in public and on social media which created a signific significant emotional distress for me. His intrusive behavior made it difficult for me to feel safe leading leading me to distance myself
from our friendship. I felt compelled to prioritize my well-being as the anxiety of being approached unexpectedly and the fear of potential confrontation took a toll on my mental health. It was a tough decision, but I needed to step back to protect myself. While I care deeply for
Aria and our 15-year friendship, I want to support the emotional strain and safety concerns made challenging to maintain our connection during that time. I recognize the importance of setting boundaries and this has been a step moving forward and rekindling our
friendship. However, I recognize that together we are stronger and I understand the importance of community in her healing process. I urge anyone who has heard Ariah's story to extend sympathy, grace, and support to her. Uplifting her during this crucial moment can make a significant difference in her
life. Helping her find the strength to overcome her past and embrace a brighter future. Let's come together to ensure she feels value and support it before it's too late. >> Thank you so much. >> Next speaker, Madame Clerk.
>> Next speaker is Morad Arcenbeck. Hope I pronounced that correctly. Please pronounce your name. >> Good evening, Mr. Morad. >> Hello. Thank you, uh, city council uh, men and women. Thank you for the opportunity to talk. My name is Morad Arlenbeck.
>> I'm here on behalf of the uh Cody family and I just want to take some time to say a couple things. Uh I'm here on behalf of the uh uh I'm here on behalf of the family of Capro Cody, a devoted father,
son, and valued member of the community whose life ended under uh whose life un ended under suspicious circumstances that still remain unclear to this day. Uh this is going back uh we're coming on two years exact. Uh New Year's Eve of
2023. Um a 911 call was placed for a an apparent suicide at 29219th. A this is December uh 31st, 2023. Um the Cody family is still experiencing
profound grief. They're seeking only what they're seeking only what any family in their position would want. truth, transparency and accountability. This is not about blame or confrontation. It is about understanding what happened
and ensuring that every step in this process is handled with integrity and fairness. The family believes that when the full truth is known, justice will follow. But they cannot begin to heal until they have clear answers. Capro Cody was known as a hardworking
man who cared deeply for his baby daughter and his uh and his family. His loss left a deep void in their lives and the community as a whole. The family recognizes the the difficult work that uh law enforcement in this
city has to handle and how how much they can be overwhelmed at any given time. We saw that already through a few of the previous speakers. Uh so like I said, I want to reiterate this is not an anti- police uh uh thing. I'm a retired New York City detective, a veteran, and my
sister was gunned down here too about four years ago. For that reason, we're calling for a thorough and independent in investigation into the circumstances surrounding Mr. uh Capro Cody's death.
The family asked that this process be conducted with professionalism, honesty, and respect. To the public, we ask for your continued support, patience, and compassion to anyone who may have information. Please come forward through proper channels. What uh what I'm trying
to say here is Gapro Cody was a also a victim of domestic violence. He was a male. It's not always a female. And we are and we feel that because of him being a male, he was he's one of the people that
got left behind. I don't know what what the correct term is. >> D >> can I finish? I have not even a paragraph. It'll take about >> 30 seconds, please. >> The family's request is simple. to know the truth to see justice carried out and
to sure to ensure that what happened to co pro Cody is fully understood and never forgotten. Uh Miss Cody I believe is speaking next uh speaking after me the uh who is Capro's mother she will be able to elaborate u because I I didn't
have enough time to fully explain myself. Uh, >> next speaker, madam clerk, >> this uh uh issue >> Cody, >> please state your name. >> Good evening, council women and men. I
literally had foot surgery yesterday, but nothing was going to keep me from coming today. >> Hello, my name is Linda Cody. I am here to talk about how the Patterson Police Department has failed me and my family.
Typically, when people think of domestic violence, they imagine a man abusing a woman. In my son's situation, he was a domestic violence victim for many years at the hands of his exartner along with her
family members resulted in the home invasion and hospitalization in which they broke his jaw and it was wired for eight weeks. My son and I took the proper steps to protect him and our family. Patterson Police Department,
however, failed our family and our city when they failed and refused to do their job and protect their own colleagues who failed to do his job and lied to cover it up. Specifically, they failed to
accurately and timely document and enforce my complaint up until the final night of his life. To add insult to the injury, they turned around and failed to properly investigate my son's death, which only lasted 28 minutes before
taking his body out and sending him to the Newark Police Medical Examiner's Office. officially during the course of the investigation. I came to learn that one of my complaints were never officially entered
into police database resulting in restraining orders violations not being enforced in which I had my two grandkids with me when I went on October 4th of 2023 and two and a half months later my son was DOA
in his own home in which I was there longer than he'd been alive on earth. I don't live in the apartments. I live in a home. >> In doing so, they failed to collect crucial evidence, including the bullet, from the scene of the accident,
questioning the perpetrator and or speaking with the neighbors who saw the aspects of the incident, including the perpetrator and her friend at the scene and leaving the scene in which they had video evidence of the incident. I had to
provide dialogue and communication to the medical examiner attending attention at time due to the sloppy police work and I omitted potential evidence which included the lack of visible physical injuries prior to including along with
the second bullet and which was recovered over a month and a half later when the police was called to come and get that incident which they sent the five-page report to our job. We're long shoreman's. He followed in my footsteps. He was there for a year. I've been there
for 26 years under the state police umbrella. In turn, the medical examiner solely relied on information that the respondent officers told him and the untimely rule on my son's death. It was a suicide despite clear evidence that my
son did not commit suicide. Blood was on the door handle. Braids was on the floor. Nails was on the floor that was broken. His face had to be plastered cuz he could not have a open casket until they let the putty dry.
And lack of gun residue on his hands, which was none. The medical examiner said he had no gun residue on his hands. The bullet point of entry was right to left. My son is left-handed.
I have filed two internal affair complaints. To date, I have not received any substantial updates on the status of my reports. I deserve closure and our family, including my son, as a
lawabiding taxpayer, deserve justice. Last but not least, as mothers who carried their children, gave birth, and gave delivery to them. How do you sleep at night? Cuz I don't.
And last but not least, I had to forgive the perpetrator. Not for her, for me. So I can have peace. To God be the glory. I will get justice. Amen. And thank you for this. >> Thank you, mother
corporation council. Can you just get some information from the mom, please? Next speaker, madam clerk. >> Next speaker is Maldia Calderon. >> Good evening, McDallia. >> Good evening. Please council president
and all the council member here. Thank you for the opportunity. My name is Mcdalia Calderon and I am the mother of Oriah Aponte. I do not want my daughter to be dead. I
don't want to put her in a rest in peace. My daughter, I don't want to be like her. I don't sleep at nighttime. I have a beautiful granddaughter who's not safe. I'm not safe. I've been all over social
media. My daughter has been all all over social media. She had to shut down her social media because she would get messages. I know where you work. By the way, he put where I work as well. Watch her back. Bit timag
her. A ss. One bullet change all that. He just needs to murk both of them. Seriously. Take them out. Me and her. That's why OJ did what he had to do. He texts my daughter, "Don't make me do
something. You're going to hate me for the rest of your life." What do you think he means by that? What do you think he means by that? Do you think I sleep every time he takes my granddaughter? I don't sleep. I pray to God on my
knees. I don't sleep. That justice doesn't do anything for us. This statement is issued to bring attention to the unacceptable delay in finalizing a restraining order case in Pay County. What should be a swift and protective
legal process has instead become an extended ordeal, leaving the victims and their family without closure or security or protection. Restraining order exists to provide immediate safety and peace of mind. I
don't have a peace of mind. I don't sleep at nighttime. My daughter doesn't sleep at nighttime. When such cases are allowed to linger unresolved, the very intent of these protective measures is defeated. Defeated.
The prolonging action not only puts individuals at greater risk and their family, but also erose trust in a system meant to protect us. We call on the P County judiciary and state officials to review current case
handling procedures, ensure accountability, and implement reforms that prioritize timely protection for those in danger. Justice is delaying matters of safety. Is protection denied?
My daughter's protection has been denied. We have been fighting with the justice system. We've been silenced and quiet for two years. While this abuser have accused my daughter of rape, have
accused me and every family member of molesting my granddaughter, all of her babysitters, shutting down door. But he's not going to shut us up anymore. We will speak. I
will speak until my last breath. Someone has to hear me. I don't want my granddaughter in a shirt. I don't want my daughter in a shirt. And quite frankly, I don't care about me. I want to be here for them. But I will fight
until my last breath. This abuser will have to pay his consequences. I will shut no more. >> Thank you, Miss McDall. Next speaker, Madam Clerk. Next speaker is Eddie Olivarez.
State your name, please. >> Eddie Olvarez, Patterson, New Jersey. Uh, tonight it's going to be a little different than what I usually do. Mr. Jackson, on many occasions, you and I have spoken about certain things that
should be done in the city of Patterson to improve it. uh such as not paying the $30 million that we spend on on trash pickup and buying our own trucks.
Um such as buying our own equipment to fix our streets and hire people from Patterson so that our economy can be more dynamic. Those
are very good ideas, Mr. action. Uh, and I agree with you 100% we should do that. But I'm going to tell you what I think is even more important. This city is in the hands of a bunch of idiots
over here to our left. Mr. Rodriguez, you that's it. Yeah. Step back. But you see these three guys over here? We have to get rid of them. the BA, uh, Silva, got to get rid of them. The
the, uh, city attorney, got to get rid of them. They are an impediment to improving the city of Patterson. They are the problem. We have the people the the the the city
in hands of people that have no clue. We have uh Joel Ramirez. He's my friend. But if you had a drugstore which is in charge of, you know, uh prescribing medications over the counter and stuff
like that, Joel Ramirez is not qualified to do that. If you had a a anyone here, if you had a a drugstore, would you give it to him? No, he's not qualified. We all know he's not qualified. And the city of Patterson gave him the entire city to run the public health
department. This is why we are in the situation that we are in. We have people, we have um Marisa Dav, she named her sister in the uh um you know, one of those positions in the uh uh bu the building department,
whatever the uh you know, it's only because it's her sister. She has no clue what she's doing. No clue. Luis, his wife, >> does not speak English.
has no clue what she's doing in the in the health department and yet she was named she was hired by the public health department. This is the problem. The city is in the hands of idiots. I'm 100%
with you, Mr. Jackson. So long as you do as I am telling you because this is the only way that you can fix the city of Paris. You gave everybody 30 seconds. So please 30 seconds. I am going to close with
this. In in November in next year we have these three seats coming up. Udina um Lilisa Mims and Marisa Davila. I have to get rid of them. >> Thank you. You won't do it. Next speaker, Madame Clerk.
>> Next speaker is Deborah Hannibal. >> She's not here. Oh, yes, she is. I'm sorry. Hi, Miss Hannibal. I didn't see you back there. >> State your name and address, please. Thank you. >> Corporation Council. >> Good evening.
>> Oh, D. Hello. Can you hear me? Good evening, Deborah Hannibal, taxpayer. I'm I'm here tonight to first of all, where is the BA? Does the city still
employ two assistant BAS? >> First, I would like to really just thank the council for tonight's meeting. Um just overwhelmed by the domestic um abuse and how things are handled in this city. I thank you to this young lady for
your courage. Um, I must say that I would like to see the public comment section, the time allowed change to five or six minutes. It is just rude when we come as taxpayers, as
concerned citizens and want to address our concerns and we're just cut off as something as serious as what is happening, domestic violence, we shouldn't be given a time. On item number 15th, I don't know if this has been addressed yet. Has the city also
purchased stoploss insurance? If they're going to switch from state health benefits to self-insured, is there stoploss coverage in that or else we're we're, you know, we're putting the city at risk. Today is the last day to register to vote. You can go
to vote411.org and register online. your voice, your vote. Local elections matter. We have school board coming up uh in November and we also are going to vote for our governor uh senate and uh two assembly
persons. The League of Women Voters in Patterson is partnering with the Million Voter Project. I'm trying to talk fast. We're going to be canvases canvasing and lit dropping on Monday, October 27th from 11 to 2. And then again on
Saturday, November 1st from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. we will meet at 83 Helden Avenue and then you'll be partnered with someone to do the lit dropping. We're across the street from Gilmore if that helps. Um I've raised concerns for over
a year about the city's finances. This is still an ongoing issue. There was uh talk about that we're not collecting money as far as the taxes and I know that there's something funny with the payroll cuz my pension money still has
not been um sent to pension. So money that was deducted in 2022. We know it's illegal to withhold money from my check and then hold on to my money and not send it where it's supposed to be. As I said before, the money is funny and the
change is strange. So, somebody needs to check that out. Also, attend zoning meetings. There's something coming up tomorrow night where they're asking for 11 parking spaces and they know that there are not 11 parking spots available. Power to the people. Take
your power back. When we vote, we win. Next speaker, madam clerk. The >> next speaker is Cameo Black. >> State your name and address, please. >> Sorry. Sorry. Good evening.
Good evening, y'all. What in the world? Anyway, I came here as I was walking here. I came here to actually go off, but I was talking to God walking down here. So, I'm going to let the person breathe. I'm not even going to be petty and go back and forth
with them. But on a bigger and higher note, as y'all know, I'm running for commissioner of the school board. I'm coming in hot. And y'all know my numbers is at an all-time high. But
uh if y'all oops don't have a flyer, I will give y'all a flyer before I leave. But I do have to say just one little thing. When people make lives, I'm not going to say any names cuz like I said, I'm not going to be petty and go back
and forth. Me holding in this bag, I was going to do a whole lot. I have certificates where I did graduate from nursing school. I have certificates where I've been baptized. I was going to do a whole little show, but as you grow and you're glowing, some things don't
even need to be addressed. Some things you just leave it in God's hands, cuz some people just going to be who they are. Some people forget who they are. But me, y'all know I stand on loyalty. I stand on love. I would never forget where I came from. When I get in my
seat, trust and believe it's only a volunteer position. I'm doing it for the kids. the kids. No backdoor deals. Nobody can't get in my ear to tell me to do X, Y, and Z. That's why I'm a threat
coming in. A lot of stuff that's been going on, I'm going to put an end to it. >> So, all the deals that y'all doing, be comfortable because November 4th, y'all time up. January when I'm swearing is a lot of stuff that I'm going to open them
cans of worms of all them little side deals that y'all been doing. Everything's going to come to an end. So get ready. Another thing I haven't seen not one council person yet share. I
don't care if y'all share it or not endorse me or not. Y'all sit y'all sit with the city clerk. Y'all sit with everybody. Y'all know my numbers is up there. I'm number one right now. And why? Because all y'all little deals y'all doing, y'all never see me not. And
one picture. I roll solo dooo. Only person I roll with is God. Everybody scream, "God, God, God, God." I keep asking y'all, "What God y'all serve?" >> What God? Why the director was sitting up here asking for money? I know y'all
seen when I came in. I ran back outside. Y'all know why? It was a couple, a lady getting stabbed in her face and a man was getting beat up with his clothes ripped off on him. Did anybody go downstairs? No. And like Udin said, the whole police department be in one spot. Something else could be happening across
town. And one more thing I got to say, Mr. VeZ, when I called you the other day, I called you to let you know, you know, three weeks in a row, people starting to dump on our block. on 133 Market Street. I tell Billy, too.
I sent him the pictures. >> He picked it up. >> He picked it up today. I made the phone call Saturday. S What happened? He picked it up today. I made the phone call on Saturday. Sent him the pictures. Sunday, you text me and said, "You in church, text you, but
you never called me back." >> Even though he picked it up, I gave y'all I do the footwork and everything. I don't get paid for none of it. 133 Market Street is the beauty zone across the street. Why is the garbage coming up
to 444 Market Street? I'm telling you. I'm I'm explaining it to you. I'm explaining it to him. I don't get paid for none of this. Y'all got money for cameras. When are these cameras going to come out? I'm getting sick of all of this. Y'all don't want me to come down here. Y'all don't want me
to curse. Y'all don't want me to do none of this stuff. do y'all jobs of what we vote y'all in to do instead of everybody sitting back looking stupid high and texting. Get it together. >> Thank you. Next speaker, Madam Clerk.
>> Yes. Next speaker is Corey Teague. >> Commissioner, state your name, address, please. >> Corey Teague, Patterson, New Jersey. So, I'm here tonight to make an endorsement and and I'm sure the community knows who I'm behind because we've been walking
the streets. We've been doing what we need to do in this community. And the reason why this community respects my endorsements is because I'm a veteran board member. Let me be very clear with you. I started uh working with Patterson Public Schools since 2012, even before that. This is my third term on the board
of education. And it's not only just being up there at 90 Delaware, it's actually being out here in the streets with the community. Cameo Black is an individual that truly cares about this community. A lot of times we we look at a person's passion and we try to dismiss their language and say, "Oh, this
person's talking this way or that way." But if you guys knew the context of what she's been through and the stuff that the district has put her through, even as a board member sometimes being stonewalled by the superintendent's office. Even the fact that the superintendent had the nerve to ban a
parent from a schoolboard meeting when the schoolboard meeting is the board of education's meeting, not the superintendent's meeting. I've said that in emails. I've said that in person. I'm saying it here. Board of education meeting is the board of education's meeting, not the superintendent's meeting. So for the superintendent to
ban a parent from a board meeting without even having a discussion with the board unless it was done in closed session somewhere without the rest of us being notified and that's the way you're going to treat a parent that truly cares about the community and comes out fights for her son as well as everybody else.
So I'm 110% behind her candidacy because I have seen the work that she does in this community and like she said there is no money involved being on the school board. There is no money involved. There is no salary there. So when you have people who are committed enough to continue to run for that same seat even
though there's no money involved, you got to ask them what are they there for? Why are we out here every day advocating for this community getting attacked, getting yelled at for free? Because we truly care about our children and we want to do what's best for them. So I'm encouraging everybody. You can actually
vote now. Early voting has begun. I believe you can vote by mail, of course, if you receive your your your packet in the mail. And of course, November 4th is election day. Let's get out and let's make sure we put somebody up there who we know for sure is going to stand up and advocate for children. Don't worry
about how we talk. Look at the work that we put in in this community. >> Thank you. >> Next speaker, Madam Clerk. >> Next speaker is Elvis Durham. >> Please state your name and address. Thank you. Elvis door,
Fourth Wall, Patterson, New Jersey. I was going to just come up here to do my announcements. But before I get into my announcements, um the UEE is for UEE. UEE don't, it doesn't mean one
department. We got so much money coming into the UEE. You could use that money in three ways. Number one, the downtown area. We need maintenance in the downtown area. Maintenance mean clean. We need people
to clean up. Hire people. We need more policing in the downtown area. UEe mean downtown Patterson too, y'all. Okay. And don't forget we got other departments. We you also got the parking authority.
So before y'all vote next week, talk to other departments and see what we need to better the downtown area of Patterson, New Jersey. >> This is the third largest city in New Jersey, y'all. Okay, my announcements.
Elvis Dorm Outreach Music Productions presents Sunday Praise Sunday, October 26, 2025. starts at 5:30 p.m. It's a free will donation.
It's going to be at Bedford AM Church 2-4 Auburn Street 2-4 Aub Street Patterson, New Jersey. Pastor Reverend Murvin Wilson, Assistant Pastor
Marie. For more information, you can contact me at 8628233895. Also, I'm coming to the first war. Elvis Dorm Outreach Music Productions presents
Gospel Mania. Sunday, November 23rd, 2025. Freewood donation. The concert starts at 4:00 p.m. at New Generation Kingdom of Power Ministry,
170 North Main Street, Patterson, New Jersey. Pastor Thomas Pur is the pastor, and they're going to be featuring a lot of great gospel artists. For more information, you could contact me at 8628233895.
Also, I want to say I have a YouTube channel. Subscribe to my YouTube channel, Patterson NJ Good News. I also have a Facebook page. I am the promoter for the city of Patterson, New Jersey.
My Facebook page, Elvis, Good News, Dur Ham. Elvis, good news. Dur Ham. God bless you. I see y'all next week. >> Thank you, Mr. Zorum. Next speaker, Madame Clerk.
>> Yes. Next speaker is Magros Amado. >> Please state your name and address, please. Thank you. >> Good evening. My name is Magros Amado and I live at 57 Riley Avenue. I am here to talk about
two safety concerns in my neighborhood. The first is the abandoned and burned property next to my house of 59 to69 Riley Avenue. A fire happened there in April.
>> One second. Mal, could you check your microphone? I think it's off. >> Could you just check to see if it's >> It's on. She's not She's on. She's not close. >> Okay. I'm sorry. You can start all over. Okay. More. >> Yeah. Just Yeah. Just speak into the mic because they can hear. >> Okay.
>> Can I start again? >> No, you're fine. >> Oh, yes. My name is Magro Samado and I live at 57 Riley Avenue. I am here to talk about two safety concerns in my neighborhood.
The first is the abandoned and burned property next to my house at 59 and 61 Riley Avenue. A fire happened there in April 2025 and the fire department issued an
imminent hazard not notice but the property remains open full of trash and really unsafe. The second issue is the fence bacon lot across the street from my home. Heavy
machinery has been used there for a month causing vibration that I can feel inside my home. I went today to the community improvement office and I submit letters and photos.
They told me it's a process, but the situation is serious and I am asking the city to please take action to protect our neighborhoods safety and dignity. Thank you very much for listening. And I
think that to care for what one has built is to honor the soul of the place we belong to. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Lo. Mr. Javier, could you please see our resident, please? He will come see you. Conit constituent
services. Next speaker, madam clerk. >> Next speaker is Balal Hakeim. >> Please state your name and address. Thank you. >> State your name. >> Uh good evening, Belake. Uh the first thing I wanted to say, I really wish uh
downtown uh area that there were some um handicap spots for people that are being physically challenged. uh October the 7th right down the street I was getting out of the car to give them um uh the bill and pay the money for a relative of
mine and the uh the ticket lady she's doing a job out there but she see that I was having a difficult time walking she just rushed to write a ticket any anyway gave me a ticket anyway and I just all I did was hand them the the money and the
bills. So the other thing is is uh um want to just thank um the three council uh people um when we did our program um the New Africa family liberation day at Barbara Park. Want to thank um the councilman at large um Fared Udin um as well as Iraim Umar the councilman of the
sixth ward and um councilwoman Ruby Cotton of um the fourth ward. Also uh thanking Casey Melvin, Miss Deborah Hannibal um for your contribution. and Dave Gilmore. Um, uh, Jamie, uh, Jamie
Bland. Um, okay. Yeah. Yeah, those people. We want to just thank those people because it's your inind u um donation that helps us uh continue these things without uh
getting on our knees and have to um uh go to uh um uh the uh the rich man uh table begging like Lazarus like so many here in the city of Patterson do and they're beholding the people that have big purses. So we raise our money and
your inkind dollar 10 whatever you give is always appreciated. Um the other thing I wanted to mention is that this council um at one time they function as all the men and I mentioned this at sever several times. Um Bill
Mason uh why is there not um any type of um resolution or anything in place to honor that man Bill Mason that changed the form of government to what we have now to have representation as council of people. I think you need to look into that. Someone need to sponsor that bill
to honor that man. Uh so that people that come after us will know that he was here and that he did something. The same thing with Miss Anatella Farrell. We need to uh uh recognize these people because if you don't honor them as time goes on, people think things just
happened. No, things happened because people um uh uh got involved and made change. Uh, I want to say the last but not least, um, continue to stand up for your daughter and more people need to be
standing up for her and we need to be standing with that family um, who um, they're trying to cover up where the son um, uh, was murdered, the domestic violence, a woman. We need to be um, standing up on these issues. Don't have enough time. If I could get 30 seconds,
uh, uh, council president, just to say this right here, I really think that, um, we need to get an increase, um, in time and, uh, or go back to, um, add the other meeting back. Thank you. >> Thank you. Final speaker, madam clerk,
>> the speaker is Kimmy Freeman. Please state your name and address. >> Kimmy Freeman, uh, Third W. Um, I got a letter here from public uh, works right here and it's
probably contained like I already told men what happened. There was a broken toilet somebody threw right across the street from our house. And on my block, we have six houses. And on those six houses, we pay $80,000
in taxes. So, I don't know what all these tickets are right here because this is what I did. We called them three or four times. I met with Mr. uh with the director. I
said, "Come get this toilet." They said, "Oh, we'll come get it the next day." That was Wednesday. Thursday, they didn't come get it. Friday, I said, "I still saw the toilet. I picked the toilet up and threw it into the driveway of DPW."
That's what I did. I did it. And I don't know who chased me with their fake cop car or something like that cuz he almost hit me in the back. Okay. I don't know what this is right here. I'm pleading not guilty to all this because you should have came and got the toilet.
Right. And you always come through for me. It's not you. It's your people. Now all my neighbors and everything, they like, "Oh my god, a broken toilet, porcelain toilet on East 40th Street."
And we called. Neighbors called. So, you know what? I'll see you in court. And with that, since y'all don't want to do anything about speeding, you had 28 moving violations when SP 28 moving
violation. You have 28 moving violations on 18th AB alone. So, you're not in uh enforcing speeding. That poor man who got hit clearing off his car was 62 years old,
61 years old. I'm 65 years old. I'm afraid to get in my car because you know what? For 15 years I've been telling you it's been speeding on 18th Avenue. So guess what? I'mma fight. I'm going to do more than that. I'm running for
council at large. And I already told Marissa, "Thank you for the advice, Marissa. Thank you so much. Because guess what? I'm tired of this. And I'll work for a dollar a day. It ain't even about the money." I told Jamie Bland, she's the first person I told, I'll
donate all of it because I'm tired and now I'm going to do something. So now I'm running at large and I hope that people like Miguel Diaz and all the other people I know, I know a lot of people. I'm the only person in this room
who's lived in every ward. I lived in every ward. >> Thank you, Madam Clerk. And I hope the people that's up there support me, >> okay? Support me like I've supported you. >> Thank you. >> All right. And I'll give you details.
Guess what? Marissa got a copy. >> Thank you. Seeing no more Seeing no more. >> And guess what? >> I'll go to prison before I do your damn job. >> No more speakers. Can we get a motion to close? >> Second.
>> Motion to close by Council Davala. Second by Councilman Khaled. Roll call to close. >> Officers, can we set the corum, please? >> Motion to close, Madam Clerk. >> Yes. Roll call. >> No. Roll call. >> Roll call to close the public portion.
Councilwoman Cotton. >> Yes. >> Thank you, Councilwoman Daver. So I normally say yes to closing but I I I can't I I cannot just say no. So first I want to start by saying very compelled you
know with the individuals that came to talk about domestic violence. um only someone and I always say this, you don't know people's story and so truly compelling for the young lady uh for the mother you know that is grieving for her
son because she said it best that it is not always women who who um are victims you know men are as well. Um, in addition to that, you know, a lot of people come here and they address us and they say things and, you know, as
elected officials, some say, "Well, you're in that position. You put yourself in that position." But I refuse for you to come and slander and bismerch and talk ill about someone who was hired by a city, a place where she's wasn't
born here, but came here at a very, very young age. Okay? And that's my sister. She's a qualified employee. I have nothing to do with that. And this is not about defending me right now because I I could defend myself. But don't you come here as a city employee to attack
another city employee and think that that's going to be okay cuz that's unacceptable. And I hope my sister sitting right here in the back. I hope that you do something about it. They can say all they want about me, but I refuse for somebody to come here, slander, and
bismerch you the way you were done today. and also Councilman Velis's wife. You all need to get together and that gentleman needs to be ousted from this city. He doesn't belong in the city because all he does is negative negative things. He brings negative things. He talks negative and then he wants to say
that he serves this city. He got to look at himself in the mirror. But with that said, to everyone else, thank you so much also for coming and putting your views. It's a shame that some people have to make things racial when it comes about children because I care about all children. I've been working with the
district. I've been working for 32 years in higher education. But I'll tell you this, I know my space. I know my place. And I know process. And I cannot get involved when there's litigation in process. Sorry if you can't accept that.
I am sorry, but that is where I stand in terms of my position as an elected official serving and being a legislator for the city of Patterson and not being part of the board of education or in this matter, not the board of education, but specific to uh charters. So, madame
um president and to my colleagues, thank you so much. My vote is yes to close the public portion. >> Thank you, Councilwoman. Councilman Jackson, Councilman Khik, >> my vote is yes to close the public portion. Thank you, >> Councilman Mendes. >> My vote is >> Councilman Omar.
>> My vote is yes to close public portion. Madam Clerk, >> Councilman Uden, Councilman, Council President, >> my heart goes out, >> my heart goes out to all the speakers. My vote is yes, Madam Clerk. >> Thank you. There's five in favor. Uh,
four absent. The public portion is is hereby closed. >> Madame Clerk, we'll go now into public works. Council McCoten who is the chair of DPW. >> Thank you, Council President. Uh, let me find public >> starting items 58. >> 58.
Where's Billy? Did Billy come back in here? >> Huh? Oh, that's where he went. Okay. Uh, >> is DPW not here? He went he went out there but we was already um >> Thank you, Council President. We already was put number 58 on regular because
it's the fure option for renewal for the field co um contract for the carding um cing collection. Uh number 59's resolution for the long-term development for the is for the engineering department. That could be on consent but
I know someone >> we put that on regular >> is what >> Madame President 58 >> discussion 58 >> which item is that >> 58 >> discussion >> 58 Councilman Khaled >> or do you want to >> All right let me just go through the rest of them because we have the tree
service contract >> uh for tree service which could be a regular >> for tree service you want regular not consent >> yep consent >> regular you want consent you said >> yes for the Also for the resolution tree trimming consent. What item is that? I'm
sorry. >> Number 60. >> 60. >> 60 consent. Okay. Oh, we have that. >> Uh 61 is for the um the the monitor. Well, we know >> number 60. Yeah. Right. >> Number 60 is regular. 60 is regular. >> 60 is regular. Okay.
>> 61. Um Council Men, >> 61 could be consent. It's the modern well, which is normal. >> What? 61 is a normal process installing the four >> 62 62 council president uh council
members is the the contract for the elevators >> consent >> with consent >> uh 63 is the contract for the professional service for the cso for the engineering department for the division of public works for um I believe that's
for the uh director helped me out that's for the uh That's to um to manage the RCSO program >> to manage the program to stay in compliance with the New Jersey waterways law. >> Yes. >> Consent. >> Council President, I have a question about 62. I know we we are we're going
to add 62 on consent, but I just have a question or or more than a question comment. Thank you. Uh council president and director. I know this resolution uh is a champion elevator. It's been we've been in contact with that for for for quite a few years. Yes. With this company, correct?
>> Yes. So, so we need to do something with the elevator here. They they look in a very horrible condition. The floor, it just it just really bad. I mean, they we need to refurbish those elevator. We got to, you know, >> those components are are going to the um the flooring, the um the the buttons.
That's going to be hopefully addressed with this contract here. >> The floor, the floor, the lighting inside, the ventilation inside. We have a lot of senior that use those elevator. They're not they they're in really bad shape. So, >> council president, councilman Mendes, you're talking about the elevators in all the buildings or you talking about
the elevators in the city hall? >> I'm I'm addressing for now I'm addressing city hall police department something else. I mean >> you know what is I mean we have discussed these elevators over and over and over. These elevators cannot be changed. This building is concrete. We cannot make those elevators bigger.
>> No, no, we don't need we don't need to make it bigger. We could just have to replace the floor. It's in horrible shape. the lighting, the the ventilation inside. It just have to be refurbished. So, we don't not we don't need to make it big. >> Okay. All right. See, you're not going to Okay.
>> Thank you. I I item number 62 is consent. >> Consent. >> Okay. 63 63 consent. >> Because we already been trying to fix those elevators since I can remember being here. >> Then we just redo the elevators. Not >> we did the uh the the motors. The motors in the um >> Yeah,
>> in the fourth floor and some of the um the brain and it it was messed up. So now we have to redo the buttons. Uh just some regular maintenance that needs to upgrade it. >> The uh the mechanisms and the buttons, they were upgraded as well. >> So um I guess I'm not an elevator guy,
but we we are on it. You know, you got you got to push the down button for it >> for both to go up and down right now. And we're working on that. >> Well, that's because the the electronics is not functioning properly. But that's we just we just those are we just redid all of that because
>> um both elevators what was that was like four years ago >> years ago about four years ago. >> Four years. >> Okay. >> So um so what what are we proposing now? What what is >> this just for the regular? >> Oh this is this a contract for for maintenance? >> Okay. So this is not redoing the
aesthetics. >> No we're get with this company and other companies. We are right now getting quotes on the control panels, flooring, trying to see what we can upgrade on these buildings knowing that we can't um make them we can't change them out. It is what it is with this building. Um so just upgrading what we got there now.
>> 45,000 right? >> Yeah, I think that's not to exceed that. >> Uh item number 63 64. Uh uh council members, item number 64 is for authoration of payments for uh Joshua Tours for the recreation department for
the summer >> bus services. >> For the bus service that they use for the summertime. >> Yeah, bus services. Yeah, for the basketball stuff like that. >> And that's consent. Uh award a contract for the Magic Auto Spa for the washing of the cars. >> Yeah, this is Jay's car wash. They just change name.
>> Yes, >> it's the same name. >> Yes. >> Okay, that's could be consent also. >> Thank you. Now, council members, you had a question on number >> 58. >> 58. >> Item 58. Councilman Mendes, please. >> Councilman Khalik, I mean, I'm sorry,
Councilman Khalik. >> Uh, let me let me council. >> Let me just Thank you. >> Let me just say um Councilman um the resolution number 58 is we're u authorizing the first year option >> on this contract.
>> Yes. Uh the contract has two more year options. >> Um one more year option. One year >> one more year option. It's two-year option. One year then this the first year then the second year. >> Yes. >> So uh and I also in our committee um which I was the only one in the
committee. Yeah. >> Uh asked that you compare the prices with >> our last contract that we had with Suburban. Yes. >> And and bring So you can see the contract with Suburban and you can see the contract with Filco. So you can compare it. Go ahead. Councilman Khaled. >> Councilman Khaled.
>> Thank you. Um, Council President, we had many discussion about garbage pickup, >> bulk pickup. Obviously from our previous company, we
took out the bulk section of the garbage and uh the lowest bidder was Fil. Maybe instead of renewing the option here, we should include the bulk since the bulk picker hasn't been working for
last 2 years. We tried it for more than two years. It's still not on point. I think we should instead of renewing this contract, we should go out for a bid for uh the garbage pickup including bulk like
previous uh year. That's just my council. Councilman Mendes, Councilman Veles, and then Councilman Jackson. Um, >> thank you, Council President. >> Let him please let the director Council
Council Council Mendes Council Mendes and what it means. >> Council Cotton is Councilman Mendes first, Vlets, then Jackson. Explain. >> Councilman um Mendes, >> you know, thank you. are uh council president I understand that it is a that is a this resolution 58 is a resolution
authorizing the first option a year renewal contract and when we speak about the first option renewal it have to be the contract has to be renewal with the same exact form that the original but we we have a major problem with the ball pickup and the b situation I've been
recommending since the beginning to this situation with the scheduling the ball pickup has been a tremendous problem for a lot of our resident, a lot of senior that doesn't understand the process and and dumping it's being out of control since we took the bulk out the uh uh
regular garbage collection. You just have to see before the bulk was separate. There was no such a we didn't have this problem with people dumping left and right in the city of Paris. So we have a few here and there but now it's just out of control. I think we
have to go back director and include the bulk including to include the bulk and we also have to see how much money are we saving quite honestly because we have our department running around uh Saturday and Sunday uh and the city still filthy people are dumping left and
right I'm still having problem with people in the river sack station uh on the in the section of the heritage place all over the place about dumping I think that we have to review this contract but if we're going we get into a contract with Phil have to be have to be with
everything included bulk everything included to clean our city once and for all. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Councilman. Council Veles. >> Thank you, Council President. Uh let me let me remind uh our colleagues.
Uh >> what is it? >> Some plans that the city put forward and bring it to the council in the past. >> They just present it to us. But unfortunately,
they don't take the recommendation of us and then they go their way and it proven failure. And I could prove it >> when they tried to switch the self-insured to the state plan. And
tonight we could discuss that later. They want to try to go back again to self-insure. They say they was going to be saving money. They didn't save us no money. Taxpayers had to pay more for the city
of Patterson. And still the residents, the employees of the city of Patterson don't get the full coverage for they need even those that uh has retired in our city. So that's a failure. Second, we had a lot of conversation. I remember
when I was uh the chair of DPW, we had a lot of conversation, but a lot we spoke about the plan. We spoke about the the the uh zoning. we changed this for this and we did this and they we did a lot of recommendation this side to the
administration and we tell them it's not going to work and it's not working. >> It's not working and and and we could probably say okay let's give another shot to the mayor's plant but it's still not going to work because he's not
living the reality of what's going on in the city of Patterson regarding the garbage collection and cleanliness of the city of Patterson. Now, we even recommended through the uee to buy and purchase trucks to be able to add from
two days uh four days that they took from the downtown district and they and they put only two days for garbage collection. Um and um and they still not working. It's not it's not working for the commercial corridors in downtown.
They was planning to bring a fee for commercial that failed because we're not going to burden the taxpayers of Patterson. They already paying for that. We got companies that are even collecting their own garbage because the city of Patterson have failed to collect
that garbage and we not reimbursing those taxpayer the money that they spend collecting that garbage. That is responsibility of the city. I don't have a problem with Filo. They was contracted to pick up garbage. Filco is willing to
come to the table and help the city of Patterson and include the bulk pickup. Even if we had not reinvent the wheel just to get our plan moving forward. You want an easy one? Put in a contract.
Okay. That just pick up the bulk once a week. and designated day of the garbage collection and that will even save us money and that garbage and that bulk is going to get picked up at the same time only once a week in the in different
zone and people are going to follow that but right now the contract is coming for renewal I don't think it's fair for Philo because he was contracted for pickup garbage people confuse between
bulk and garbage people confuse confuse garbage with recycling. Now hold on. People confuse garbage with recycling. Now what I think is and and and director that to be a fair share and a fair shot
on the real process and plan, put it on the table, have people come and say, "Okay, let's bid." You know what's going to happen? Only one company is going to bid. They going to come with a number and they know the number of the
city not saving. They know they see it. Matter of fact, and let me say this, council president, I I receive a notice. You know the brush that we supposed we have a contract to take it to Clifton. They been charging if it's half truck,
if it's four bags, if it's three bags of brush or whatever, they charging the same amount of money. So something is going on. Something's going on. The money is going down the drain. The city don't it looks filthy. And the plan the
listen this nine council members here. Nine council member here. And if you ask any council member here of a plan that this going to work, they're going to have a good idea. They're going to save taxpayer money. And the city would look
good. Even the mayor would look good. Even the director of the department would look good because took recommendation from us because we are out there daily. We don't go one block today. I visit my wall all the way around. Councilman Jackson does the same
thing. Everyone here knows where the need. Take the recommendation of us. Put it to work and leave the st the the stubborn idea that I'm the mayor. I got to do whatever I want. I got to save have been proved that is failing and
still the dirtiness and the and and the that what you see in the city other city see us and say what you guys doing and you know what it falls into they don't want to listen the I know director that you put some plan together but you
always have to say oh the mayor is the one to take that decision the BA to want to take that decision I know you got great ideas But please, if the contract would include bulk, even one day, one day in a week for a zone
directed by any company that bid that way or want to participate, I'm not going to say Filco, but if they participate that way, the numbers going to match what the work had to be done out there. So once again, I don't have a problem with Filco. Fuka
was contracted for pickup garbage. The bad idea was to remove the bulk, put the burden in our city employees, okay? Because the money is going down the drain somehow. I'm not saying that they spending it the wrong way. They doing
the job. They have to get paid. But I think that this vetted the right way, it will work for the city. Thank you, Council President. >> Thank you. So, right before Councilman Jackson, so I want to say to the CFO, I would like to see um what the contract
looked like with bulk included before it was removed. I want to see all the overtime that has been expended through our DPW department. I want to see the quantity of the pickup and what has not been picked up. >> How much of it will you be paying to the company
>> for for the uh bulk pickup? I I want to put it on the record. Uh prior to the not having bulk in our contract, the city was not as filthy once it was removed and it wasn't in the
contract. The city because one, the vehicles or methods of communication were not clearly defined. So people really don't know where and they don't really know the process. Some people know it, some people don't. Some people just choose not to follow it. So, they're just dumping everywhere. And based on the cameras, a million dollars
was spent on cameras. We have yet to see a report, a full report of where those cameras are and who's doing the dumping. Not only do we need to see where the cameras are, we need to know who's dumping and we should do a shame on you because I'm hearing that the bulk of
people that are dumping are Patterson. But we need to do a shame on you list and have it highlighted so everyone can see cuz sometime the dumping are people that live right on the block that are dumping in that same neighborhood. But we have to make sure we expose those things. But also the recommendations of
what the contract will look like with adding bulk back whether it's 2 days, 3 days, whatever that looks like, that has to be an option. And if it's not, then there's possibly going to be a recommendation that we go back to the table. But there has to be a resolution for bulk pickup. We could not continue
doing city's business the way we're doing. The city is filthy. I mean, I don't think there's not one council person, anyone watching or anyone sitting that will disagree. You look, someone sent me a message and I know they're watching. They sent me a video
and they had a sofa. They had a a a lamp that over like overshadowed the sofa. They had like pillows. They had a little popcorn stand. This was all sitting out by Fifth A. This was outside. And then they had a next to it somewhere where
they could sleep. So, a lot of people are using these as opportunities to create more garbage and filth in our community. And there has to be another option. Councilman Jackson. So,
first of all, I don't know where you guys were because and and trying to place the blame all on the mayor and administration without having a level of accountability to to the council. Council member, you voted in favor of
the state uh uh uh um uh health plan. I was the only one who pushed against that and did not support that. >> Look at the record. I voted no. >> No. No, you didn't. I voted no. >> No, you didn't. We'll pull the record. You didn't invite you didn't vote no. >> Okay. >> And if the mayor didn't have control of
five cronies from time to time, whoever it was, he wouldn't get all of these things through. We'll be holding him accountable. I don't know if you guys remember, but the reason the bulk wasn't included wasn't just because we want to try some experimental thing. It was a $55 million budget that was an uptick
from 34. >> So to say that um it's only going to be one bidder bidding on it. And if we reopen the bulk pickup because you guys are not paying attention, we open ourselves up to litigation from the previous um uh company that was outbid
outbided because we excluded the bulk and they for whatever reason lost the bid, took us to court and how whatever happened. But did director were you >> Yes. Were you able to hire any
additional staff in when when this task was placed on your lap, >> director? >> Yes. Were we able to hire additional staff at the beginning of the vote >> to do the vote? >> No. >> Were you Was your budget increased? >> Uh, no.
>> So, we're now hearing council members say, "Oh, no. We can't do this. We're going to we we got to have pay the third party company another $20 million. >> Did you expend $20 million in overtime? >> No. >> Where guys giving, you know,
compensation? I'm sure they, you know, overtime, but yeah, >> I mean, how how hard are we going to work people? You know, right now in the tax office after Miss Gatson died, you had four people leave the tax office. They never allowed for uh uh replacement
of those those staff members, but they're expecting the tax collector to continue to do the same job. You know, they they allow the mayor, in fact, the personnel director is hiring whoever she wants to friends who from from Pake, from Newark. We're bringing
all these other people on, paying people to do jobs. We have somebody coming in to do the CFO's job on this on the weekends that we're paying her like something ridiculous. 200 something dollars an hour, but they're going to sit here and act like they care about what's going on
with bulk pickup. The council has an opportunity to be responsible for this. If we're not going to give DPW the same opportunity, the same level of respect, the same level of support, how could we expect these guys to do a job? Do do a
job? They're the least paid in the city. They're expected to do a job above and beyond. Have you been given any additional support from inspectors point of view? Have you been given additional inspectors to go out and and write citations for people that's leaving this
uh the the garbage in front of their house without doing it properly? >> Not additional, but we do have what we have on the um in the budget. We are at the number. >> Okay. Well, if you're but in the past, you was never expected to handle garbage collection. No. So therefore, you're
running a a new operation with the same personnel expected to do the same the the a job that's added on to that we that that your your department saved the city 20 plus million dollars by the way. And instead
of giving you a level of appreciation, we you you got council members throwing jabs at DPW saying, "Oh, oh, they're not worthy of doing this. we just need to outsource it to a third party vendor. It's part of the problem now. Part of the problem, ladies and gentlemen, is
the people that you that you've selected to sit here that don't have any inquiry based uh assess assessments. How can you make an assessment without having a full report? without having a
report on how much we've spent on overtime, how many new employees have they been allowed to grab, how many, you know, trucks do we have in service. We're expecting the recycle trucks to do bulk pickup. So, you know, it's laughable, laughable
when they come after the fact. When I've made this clear, we made I made these arguments during the time when we switched over to the uh uh state plan. I was the the the only one like this is going to be a major mistake. The former
BA who trashed us. Now she has a job at the state level and they had the nerve, the audacity to put her handling of our budget in in 1,400 employees on her resume as if she did a spectacular job.
She put the city in the worst condition it's ever been. This mayor has put the city in the worst condition that it's ever been. He's talking, somebody commented on on the failures. You can't point to one success. He's touting how many parks he's redone.
Yeah, he's over spent on every single park. And all we have is a broken DPW division. Could have took that money and rebuilt that DPW department and to a to an adequate position to where it can render these services. But no, we didn't do that. And now the council wants to
point fingers. We we wear equal blame. This is mayor strong, council strong. Whatever the mayor has done, the council had an opportunity to block it. The council had an opportunity to make other decisions. But five of you, different five, at various times, which I've never
been included in that number, has been bending over backwards, kissing the mayor's boots, and allowing him to pimp our city out. You can't even ride down Main Street without without the over uh uh uh corrupt o intake of garbage. But
now we're going to blame it on, you know, point the finger at DPW as they can't do an adequate job. How about taking that $20 million that now we we still going to have to find someplace and making sure those those men and women that work at DPW, the hardworking men are paid fairly, don't have to go
out and work a second job at some other place and then be demanded. You know how you know how many guys are leaving DPW? People who with with the skills to drive, you know, big trucks and heavy machinery, guys went over to the water department, water uh commission because they they they're not being treated
fairly, but we're expecting them to do a job that's uh that's that we're going to now pay pay some other somebody else to put money in their pocket and and we still don't receive the services. You guys are man, listen, Mr. Olivaris is absolutely correct. The city's being ran
by by incompetent fools. >> Well, let me let me say this. >> I'm not done. I'm not done. I'm not finished. I have the microphone. >> I have the microphone. >> I'm coming to you next. >> I have the microphone. >> I'm coming >> because you so callously jumped in. I
was the first to call for the microphone. You gave you you yielded to to them first and then instead of giving me the floor, you decided to enter in your your perspective. you know, you you you misuse mis utilize and mishandle your authority that you that you don't don't clearly understand.
>> So, while I'm doing this, let me just say this to those members that came before. Mr. Rucker, you're absolutely correct. >> Corporation council has never done one thing positive since he's been for this city that the residents benefit from. He's done a lot to protect the mayor.
He's done a lot to cohort the council. But this this item on the city's page uh and I forget it was it was uh Miss um uh who was sitting back there? Um Miss Jacobs was sitting back there
earlier, but on the city's page, it's just advertise this event that Corporation council is hosting tomorrow today at 3:00. at 3:00 he the city post a seminar for
tenants rights today for tomorrow so council president talking about he had he put adequate time in he two weeks in advance I asked the clerk which day did he c did he call did the did the law department call to request it was the
day after it wasn't until Wednesday the day after she told me no I can't use the chambers but now he utilized adequate time. We just advertised, it was just the city just advertised today at 3:00 that there's going to be a seminar. We'll see who shows up for that and and
I hope it's well attended. I I I'll make an effort to get there as well. Miss Tulie, your support, it's obvious you come here. You know, everything you're talking about is legitimate, but it's your your cries are going on death ears because people don't care about that.
And uh to Mrs. Cody, my my deepest condolences for the loss of your son. And unfortunately, we have to deal with the facts. When bodies hit the ground, it's just another number. For her to say that 28 minutes later, they've already take the the young man's body out. Never
did a full investigation. And we we but yet we we keep throwing money at the situation without any real facts on reports. And I'm going just say this last thing. Um, uh, Miss Cameo Black, 1,000% you have my
support. I don't care how inexperienced you are. I don't care if you don't know what's going on. What, what I do care about is your independence. Your independence. The the amount the alliances that I've been watching and people doing what they're doing. Miss
Val Freeman, you got my 10,00 support support. 1,000% support. And Miss Cameo Black, you will have my 1,00% support. >> Closing on push. your um >> turn your mic off. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> The level of ignorance level of
ignorance, you know, um is is baffling sits here make these all these foolish decisions. So, so anyway, not going to do that. But anyway,
yet again, I I'll make this clear. Corporation council. I appreciate the effort. I hope that the city takes a position to protect its residents as opposed to giving just another, you know, lecture. Um, people
who are being illegally targeted. I've brought to you multiple people that are being mistreated in various ways and I've yet to see anything positive come out of that office since you've been there with relative to supporting the public. You and I sat outside in the
front of this building and debated about this kangaroo court thing that you was introducing that we spent $600,000 on that never that never got uh launched. The public is not benefiting from your your your your presence there, sir. And if this is going to be an effort to help
residents not continuously be targeted the way they were, I would expect that the the the notice for the illegal charging of parking will be included in here as well because as to your acknowledgement, these landlords do not have the right to
charge people for this for for parking the way they're doing. I rested there. Councilman Khali, Councilman um >> Councilman Mendes. >> Thank you. Um Council, >> Councilman Odin after
>> Thank you, Council President. I wasn't going to go back and forth. >> But when he councilman Jackson point finger, the council member here pointing finger our DPW department, which is a lie,
>> right? None of my council colleague pointing finger at the DPW department about the B pickup is shameful how you twist the story. Councilman Jackson
>> sounds good on politics. >> Okay. When we awarded that beat to the new company Filco, >> you were 110% against the what's the other company name? Previous >> Rosel. No, >> every council meeting you used to bash
them >> suburban >> and and you used to vote against the even um >> even the payments of bill because of because of Roselle >> correct suburb. >> The only reason we separate the bulk
>> to regular garbage so the city of Patterson could save some money. >> The administration presented the plan. Also, DPW director is right there. He said the department was ready to take
care of the bulk pickup. >> You could rewind it. Go back. Director said that the DPW department is ready to take care of the B pickup. I think it was probably underestimated.
People wasn't ready to use the electronic divider to schedule or whatnot. But at the same time, last two years, it hasn't been fixed. The ball pickup situation, the garbage everywhere is better. It's getting there. I'm not
going to say it's like how it was 2 years ago, but it's getting better, but still it's not there. About 57% people are reporting for the bulk pickup. 57% is not enough according to the data that we have
downstairs. And right now only reason we saying not to renew. We have the option not to renew this contract. Maybe we should take a look at it. How much are we spending if we include the bulk?
>> Absolutely. >> No, you can't. >> If we use the outside entity, the DPW going to have some free hands to do some other stuff. >> You cannot. >> That's my opinion. >> Maybe I'm you know that's >> we have an option. That's the only reason I'm saying we should look at the
option. We should talk to the field or put out a bid out there including the bulk pickup and see how much is the bid comebacks. That's all. >> Thank you, Council President. >> Thank you, Councilman Mendes and then Councilman Odin. >> Thank you, Council President. I mean, it'll be
>> it'll be very important to stay on track with the discussion that we have. I understand that elections around the corner. We have, you know, going to have a lot of back and forth. I totally understand that, but I was lost about the the the workshop. This is the um the event that the corporation council has
uh and the bull pickup. We we're talking about resolution number 58. >> And I really have to put this on the record because it's a lie. We're not attacking public work members of public work when when that happened. >> When have we attacked it? Now the
reality of this is that yes we took uh we went through this route with Filco because the different it was millions of dollars in different between both contract >> director's aware about that we went through the plan and we spoke about the ball pickup honestly the plan didn't
work >> right >> but it's not fall on the council >> you have to try new things there's things that are going to work and all the project will not you know you got to change it you know thing that work and things that don't work. So now what we have to do is now we have to talk about
what we have in front of us. >> I make the recommendation right in the beginning that we have to set the bulk pick up as a regular schedule like recycling and other like other cities. I called different municipality and every
municipality they have a schedule. All right, the last month of the week is this section and the ball pickup you could put it up there. If you put if you put any bulk in another time you gonna have a ticket you will be in court
ticket and in court period but now you don't have to schedule anything you have many you know you have no idea how many calls I get every day senior telling me councilman I have a I have a sofa here I don't know how to do this I have no time to go on a on on an uh this application
to download the application to pull the ballpick app and I was a little is more simple with the new application But still people they not putting that on the schedule. They're not scheduling the pole pick up. That's the whole problem. If you would change that from the beginning and I will tell everybody
because I remember on public work it was my idea to split the route in three section on public on the committee. That was my idea. Let's split pattern three section. You got three section. >> Let's go to the next route. You're going to each section is going to have a
specific day and time to put the ball pickup outside. I will guarantee you that will be easy for us to correct the problem. Now, if you use another time, guess what? The inspector should go there, give you a ticket for dumping,
send you to court, and you will see how people will learn, and you will see how we will clean the city. It's simple. It's not difficult. It's trust me, it's not. There's all the city that are doing that. why they're doing why they're doing it and we're not and we can't
we have a schedule for recycling. We have it why we cannot have a specific schedule for bulk. >> Why so difficult about the data? Okay, 57% of the people are uh you know putting the request through the app.
What about the rest of the people? You know what they doing? They dumping. They dumping furniture everywhere. And I feel sorry for public work at Heritage Place. We have a meeting. There was even even a trailer there. There was in the amount of garbage was incredible. Public work
went there. They took the whole day. We spent thousands of dollars cleaning up director. I don't know how many hours to spend there, but we spent a lot a lot of time. Guess what? People are dumping again. There's two things that we have to do. Council members. We know that we don't have the money. We might don't
have the money to include the bulk, but we have to look at how the number look. Number one, this is my recommendation. Let's get a let's get the numbers together. How much money we spend in director doing that in house? How much money will cost to include it? But at
the same time, we got to go back to the table. We have to be able to make a new plan and to change the director. People are not scheduling. People are putting beds, sofa, table, everything out. And the city is filthy. Look what other cities are doing. That's one. Now we
have to enforce the law that we have. We need our police department. We need everybody. You see people dumping like there's no tomorrow. And I feel horrible about that because we we have to spend taxpayer dollars to pick up all the garbage, construction debris that they
putting up there. It's our tax dollars that we spending there instead of cleaning the city and doing other things. So, um I know we spoke about the camera. I'm not at the DPW committee, but if you could invite me and we could have that conversation, I would love to be there. If we could have it, so I
don't know if one of the council members not going, please let me know. I was there. I would love to have this conversation because it Patterson is filthy. It's embarrassing when we invite resident to the city of Patterson. And I don't talk down about my city. I love this city and this city is going to be
one of the greatest city in the state of New Jersey. I know our potential is incredible. That's the reason why real estate is through the roof. Uh you know, but we got to get things done. And one of the thing that we have to do is to clean the city. Forget about scheduling. Remember what I'm telling you. If you
set the schedule, people will know when they have to put the book out. We will pick it up. If it's not your time, we're going to put a ticket for dumping and we will send you to court and you will see how we're going to correct the problem. >> Thank you, Councilman. Councilman Uden.
Thank you, Council President. Um, director, the past two years, Patterson have witnessed uh their neighborhoods are filthy with bulky trash.
>> Y >> and one thing is because that was not included with with our current trash collection contract. I salute DPW that they did their level best. However, the result is very clear.
Last two years, if we if we if we review the entire the entire city, you will see the dumping went went up. Every city visit Balkish Trash on the street here and there. Now
the scheduling process I mean yes I would say that whoever scheduled you you kind of covered pretty much all the request but I would say there are more trash out there than how many were requested
online. >> That's true. Now we need before we move forward with another additional year with Filco with no additional bulk pickups, we need comparative analysis where
if we hire private company or give uh trash colle bulky trash collection to the uh contractor third party then how much would it cost versus how much would it cost inhouse to collect trust without
having online request just at least one day collection from every single street. We have to have that director before we move forward with that current contract because it does not state actually how much money we are exactly saving
from this contract. It just everything is very vague at this point when you're saying that oh the collecting we're adding trash uh bulk with this contract is too high or too costly but we don't know that what's the
total cost we are adding up if we have in-house service >> true >> so director I would recommend it that before it move forward to our regular meeting we have to have clear data where we can see what we are saving or what we're losing
Otherwise I would say that what administration has planned when last two years Patterson was going through this trash situation. If we continue giving the contract to
the same company with no uh bulky trash added to it and we when we are talking about bulk pickups it seems like there something optional adds on. It's not really something adds on. It's something mandatory that something should be collected from every single street. So I
would recommend it to table it back have comparative analysis where how much money we're saving or not and then I think we should make decision whether it's something wise to move forward with that company with no bulk trash pickup. If you have any comments uh director I
think you could comment but I would I would recommend it to be tabled back. Mhm. >> Wow. >> Okay. Thank you for that, Councilman Uden. So, direct >> director, >> I know you want to respond. So, I'm going to give you the opportunity cuz you were like, so I'm going to allow the director to respond, but right before
you right before you respond, director, >> um cuz you wrote a lot of notes and I want to give you the opportunity. Let me make it clear and I've heard every council person. I did not hear anyone say anything negative about DPW. DPW is not dumping. >> That's right.
So there would be no reason for any council member to degrade DBW. I made it clear and the director I'm sure when he speaks or if he would speak to it, there are Patterson residents dumping. As much as we thought or maybe have assumed that
it was people from outside of Patterson, I would like the director to talk about how they're cap capturing on camera that these people dumping in the city of Patterson live here. So, I'm not sure if it's, as I stated before, other vehicles of communication or the methods that
people are not really sure of how to go on the site to act to request it or they just don't care. But we see it every day. You drive, people go in McDonald's, they drop the whole bag out the car window. They go in the pizza store, they drop the whole the bag right on the
ground. We see dumping every day, but now it's getting out of control with sofas and dressers and mattresses. They have everything, boats, everything is being dumped. But until we really crack down on what needs to be done, we
appreciate DPW doing what they're doing, but we're asking for information, which is really critical towards the vote that will happen on next week. Director, if you will respond to some of the comments. Director, director, please, first. I would like to speak cuz I can help him out. >> No, director. He has to speak.
>> He knows I can help him out. >> All right. >> Director. >> All right. Hey, director. >> Director. >> I know what I know what contract means. >> Yeah. I got a uh couple points that I'm going to go off of. Um first of all, I
get the OT and the um the amount of the the quantities that we have. I have that report for you. We have that on a daily basis. We get that easily. Um the other things we don't take our brush to um Clifton. Um Councilman, I don't know where we get that from. Uh we pay a weight, we don't pay a truck, we pay a
weight. We don't go to Clifton. We go to uh Willen Park. >> Oh, it's close. Yeah. Will Park. I forgot. >> It's Willen Park. That Yeah. So, >> all right. Every every weekend, our guys are out there for both. two
trucks, six employees, a supervisor, a yard man, and we run about 270 pickups a weekend. Scheduled pickups a weekend. At our scheduled uh pickups, we're about 99% maybe 100, but I don't want to say
100 just in case somebody texts one of you guys say they missed a pickup last week. So, we're about 99%. Out there, we're picking up another average another 150 to 200 pickups on top of the 270. Our guys are out there doing it. What I'm not hearing is what
the residents are doing. Not one council person said anything about the residents that are just throwing stuff in front of the house that are not treating the the city the way they're supposed to be treating. Everything is the city's fault and it's not. We're out there. Listen, the SDL program. It didn't work. Now we're on Recycle Coach and I believe
it's a better app. It's is more um user friendly. I think it's going to work for the seniors. If you could see your schedule for recycling, you could see your schedule for for the bulk pickup and you could schedule it. That's not a problem. When we started this contract, Councilman Vez was the chairperson of
DPW. We sat in this room right here. We had a whole video conference with with the uh with our consultant and he approved the way we're doing it right now. He was the chairman. Mendes was the vice president. They both chaired it. They both championed it. Um the three, sorry, Council Mendes, the three wars,
the three sections was not your idea. I bring it to the thing. Me and Juan Hernandez made that up. We'll let you have that though. Um, that's the way we we broke down the city. The city used to be seven. Used to be seven zones. Now we broke it down to three. Um, the UEZ UE with um with Dipto Dipto got
us three employees that's going to be doing the UAZ zone now. All right. They we we um we interview on Thursday. Hopefully we get them in on Monday. Starting working. They'll be in the UZ zone. They'll be using one of our garbage trucks. They'll be doing all the garbage downtown or the UEZ six days a
week, >> maybe even seven days a week. See how that is. >> There is plans in there's plans for for the garbage diet. I don't want nobody to think that there's not. Uh what else? I had to calm down cuz I was going to I
was going to go Mike Jackson. I No. >> All right. >> Talking about Mike Jackson DPW. >> Yeah. Did Oh, by the way, they that's that post wasn't about me, guys. I don't know what that was about, but it was me and Mike real good. Um, yeah, the to go out to bid again for the
contract. We can't hold this contract the way it is right now and then look at our options. That's unethical. I won't be part of that. You can find somebody else to do that. Won't do that. If you guys want to don't want to do this, let us know. Don't approve it and we'll go out to bid for for a contract with bulk. But we
can't do both. We can't have this and then go out and see how much bulk is and then come back to this. Can't happen. So if you guys if that's your prerogative, you want that, we'll go back out for bulk. >> Council President, >> mind you. But mind you, hold on. >> Mind you, >> when we did this, when we took the bulk
out to you saved $250,000 a month, we're probably spending about $35,000 a month in overtime. So you subtract that, that's your savings a month right now. Now that's three years ago. you know the price is going to be even more maybe 20% more than what it was three years ago.
If you want to take that chance, it's the council's. It's you guys. If you want to take it, let's do it. >> Council President, >> Council Moten, then Councilman Viz. >> Thank you. Um Huh. >> Thank you, Council President. I just want to say that um probably three years
ago, I said that when I went down to the Leagues of City, I went looking for garbage companies. And when I went looking for garbage companies in the league to see who was still picking up buck along with
garbage, you you couldn't find a company that was picking up buck along with garbage. Now, when we had Suburban here, um there was a lot of people complaining about Suburban, but Suburban was the
only company that was picking up garbage and bulk at this together. And I I had asked the director in the committee meeting to please have for our colleagues here the difference in the the what the suburban contract looked
like um what the suburban bid looked like and what the field code bid looked like. Now after I did some research and I loo looked it up, I was the no vote. I was the only no vote on the field code contract because they have never picked
up residential garbage. residential garbage. And I have nothing against Phil Co, but to me, residential garbage is jumping off the truck at every house. Picking up restaurant, you got this big thing. You
got apartment buildings, you got this big thing. So, you ain't going from house to house to house down the street picking up garbage. So, to me, for a company that never really picked up residential garbage, and we're in a residential city, I didn't I couldn't see how they can do it without picking
up book. Now when you look at buck, buck is so different from recycling because when I put my recycle, I got one can. Now when you ride down the street, you look at buck, you see dressers, mirrors, chairs, bed, mattress, you see
everything. It's so instead of that truck taking two minutes to get my cans, he's taking 20, 30 minutes just to pick up that one spot there. Now, now tell me if I'm wrong. When we offer
when we offer a contract, when we voted on a contract, and tell me if I'm wrong, when you give a company an option, if we just going out for bid or we renewing, take option out of it, just put renewal,
then you can change it. But to me, if I'm wrong, when you offer a company two-year options, one year, two years, that means that company has to have done something wrong for you not to renew their option.
You have to renew their option because until you can prove they've done something wrong in the original contract, you can't just not renew their contract. Prove somewhere where they did something wrong. That's my understanding. Now, I have nothing against Phil Co. I mean, they're picking
up garbage, but that's all they're supposed to do is pick up garbage. Now, if you want to do the right, you want to separate it and and and go out for a buck pickup, but to sit here and say not renew the contract, but when it don't say, you have the option, we gave this
company the option, too. So, they could come back and say, you know what, we don't want to be bothered no more. They have that right to do that, not to be bothered. But I don't know if we have that right to say unless we can find something that they did not do right for them not to renew their contract and we
need to look at buck and and right now I think the only cities I hear council people talking about cities the only city I know that still got buck pickup is Newark Camden Trenton >> so >> urban cities not no fair lawn not no
Ridgewood not no uh whiteoff they don't got bug pickup because they know they can take their buck somewhere them major cities like New York, Jersey City, Camden, Trenton, they still got buck pickup in their contract. And I just
want to share that with my colleagues because >> we got to come up with something. We got to come up with how you want to do buck. We got to figure out something. >> Thank you, Councilman. I >> have nothing against I have nothing against Phil Co. I never had nothing against Phil Co. But
>> when I went to that league and I talked to all those garbage companies and I knew that buck is a really major major problem and it cost a lot more money to have buck included in your contract. >> Thank you council. So um I'm recommending that this item go back to
committee council >> um so that the options can be properly presented. It should be thoroughly vetted through committee. There's a lot of concerns and I am asking and DPW committee the only person that was there was the DPW chair. There are four
council members in that committee. If you're not going to be present, please allow other council members to be there so that some of this discussion can happen in the committee meeting. >> I'm not a member. >> Council President Council President >> Council President One second. Councilman.
>> Okay. Yes. So, so this is this is real sensitive what we doing here. Okay. Um, if we table this, okay, to go to committee, we could discuss it, but it's so timesensitive. We are in the month of
October going to November. We don't want to see the cows that happen when we switch from one company to the other because they switch in the middle of January the 1st and you know the contract start January 1 and the holiday that was a mess all the way around the
city when the company came in. Now what we could do is and I think we did it in the past is that we did temporary um uh contract approval until we went out and bid again. So um and that was
done in the past. So yeah, you think we have time to go to bid or to or to or to add it to the contract? But if we if we go back You know I know we have done it director
you correct me if not when when we didn't want Roseli not we we didn't want Rosselli only out of out of eight nine council member one didn't want Rosselli and there was nobody participating only Rosselli I think we did some temporary
emergency contract for garbage collection meanwhile we go out and bid again because um it's real sensitive now Now, um I just want to clarify, council president, if you allow me, um I just
want to clarify, you could go back on a article that was done on September 27, 2018 when Patterson changed health plan for more than 2,000 employee. The record
speak by itself and it says the only councilman that voted no was Councilman Lewis Valz. So I don't know where Councilman Jackson get that he's the only one but is it is in the article that speak by itself. Last but not least
council president and I want to clarify this. I get insulted uh when I'm sitting this side and council president you you heard it and and to say that we are inept that we are to know what we do and we are unprofessional whatever he want to say
against us you know and and it's and it's and it's it looks bad because it's it's something is wrong when only one council member sees that we all know know how to do government. So, and not the only that not only that you see that
gentleman over here um Mr. uh Bushi and I said it before, you want to challenge his background and education, his law expertise, just go out there and look for it. This gentleman over here, if you
don't know, come with a high prestige legal office. Okay. to come here. Okay. Cut the time of his family, cut the time of his work, salary and everything to defend the taxpayer of the city. Defend
the taxpayer, city pastor. How? How? >> Every time. Hold on. Hold on. Councilman, you're in a hurry. You could leave, but you know, >> council. Councilman, >> let me say this. when when when the legal department is fighting for
the city of Patterson for anything that happens in this side or anything happen out there the legal department step up to save taxpayer money and I could prove in the record how many times that legal department had take case inhouse to save
taxpayer money not to represent the mayor only he represent both sides some people could agree some people cannot agree on that now the the community court. Yes, it was launched. I was there. I praise it. >> Go to the record. How many people are
getting getting uh um not not >> a lot >> reinvicted uh how you call I could say the word uh taking benefit of the community court. Not only that, the community court is becoming a job
placement for the city of Patterson for those people that looking for second chance even in a ticket, even if something is minor, but they're looking for second chance and they look for they they help them even to get jobs. I think the community core have been
working better than real fix, okay? And with less money and less employees. Let's be clear. When you go to batch, and I always say this, when you go to batch resources from the city, okay, that really are working,
>> make sure that you do it the right way because you killing our own army. I could have discrepancy with the mayor. I could not agree with the mayor sometimes. I could agree with sometime with the mayor, but sometimes some people, you know, just see everything wrong. But me in my case, I'm not going
to fall in that game. I got to still deliver what I have to deliver as a councilman. I got elected for that. And trust me, residents of Patterson, not because I raised my voice, because I don't agree in some stuff means I'm aligning with this individual because I
never going to align with people that hate the people of Patterson. >> Thank you, Councilman. Councilman Jackson, and then Councilman Mendes. >> Oh, that's a rebuttal. >> Councilman Jackson. Thank you, council president.
So, um, intellect is is definitely, um, at shortage at times here for those who may not clearly understand it. When you make a comment that
there's a failure and we need to discard of the current way that we're doing things and and and the and the dialogue is totally negative about the six individuals
who not only pick up recycle but are now tasked with doing uh bulk. I asked the director clearly. Was his department expanded? No. Was he allowed to hire additional people? No. Did he was he able to hire additional
inspectors? No. He talked about the 240 plus scheduled pickups, but he neglected to talk about the phone calls he gets from various council members because we get calls from constituents about the garbage and the bulk that's left outside. the phone calls he's getting
from the mayor's office deviating him to do a road closure for a ribbon cutting ceremony, all of those other things that he's taking guys off of. Did we allow him to hire additional staff? No. What do we do? We automatically kick his back in, kick the department's back in and
say, "Oh, we need to let Field Co do the do the bulk." Maybe you don't quite understand it, but when you talk that way, yes, that is speaking. that is defamation to the department that's
doing the that's doing the work now relative to uh uh the the praise for corporation council you know corporation council's responsibility and this is to the public
because I don't have to explain it to them they they you can explain it to them and they won't understand it anyway corporations council corporation council although he's hired by the by the mayor he's approved by the council and his job is to defend not the the mayor but the
city equally council and mayor. Currently, we we're in we're in court with a case that we're going to get hit in the face with over $5 million with Dave Gilmore that this attorney, this corporation council, he can't blame it on a pre his predecessor, him, he's
never given this council uh counsel on whether or not the direction we're going into is is right or wrong. They're pushing the can down the line when we're spending out a $5 million uh payout to an employee that was wrongfully treated,
mistreated that was fired wrongfully under his watch, but he wants to sit here and praise the person for what it is. I'm going to call strike strikes and I'm going to call balls balls. That's just what it is. I'm not going to sit here and praise somebody that's failed in this community.
Dave Gilmore sat here night in and night out and he's pled his case to this council and his count and it went on dears while corporation council has taken arm. Now whether or not I'm misinformed about this community court,
last that I checked, we spent $600,000 on it and it was never launched. So unless that's a piece of information that I'm missing, I'll do as I normally do. I'll make an apology. But I can tell you one thing. I have not gotten one phone call from one city resident that's talked about the benefit that they've
gotten from having this community court. I haven't gotten it. So maybe I'm misinformed. Maybe I I should be enlightened by my council colleagues that people are running to it because they're there they're they're they're uh receiving some type of benefit from it.
But I don't see it. What I what I know is we're making poor decisions >> and instead of, you know, granting the DPW director an opportunity to hire more staff to support his efforts to pick up the bulk because whatever Councilman Mendes is talking about, I don't
understand it because I can see it clearly on the um uh uh the recycle um uh uh the recycle coach. It tells you exactly what days you got. garbage collection, recycle days, bulk pickup.
It tells you exactly. So, I don't understand what we're talking about that we, you know, we're not informing the public, you know, properly. What we don't have is the support staff to write those summones for derelic people putting these things out. These absentee
landlords that's dumping their entire um uh uh vacancies on these illegal evictions. When you don't take care of one problem, it becomes another. So, we have landlords dumping the entire contents of their property on the on the sidewalk and then what do we do? We hold
DPW to task. Go clean that up. But show me the summones that's been written. There hasn't been because we don't want to piss off the the the uh the investors. That's who we that's who we really that's who we're doing the work for. So, let let's call them let's call it what it is. Let's call strike
strikes. Call balls balls and be honest about what's going on. Council President. Anyway, uh it's it's pointless. >> Thank you. So, let me just let me just say this first and I know Councilman Mendes is next and I know he's not here. So, uh CFO, please let him listen to my
comments. So, I want to say to um to corporation council, Mr. Aean Abushi, he came, he met in committee, he talked about putting forth this community court program. It's been running for months. And let me tell you, there are so many
people. and we're going to do a press conference and I'm so excited, right, that tonight that if you're not informed, you will be. And you're going to see some of the people that are really benefiting from this program. People that have received free job training, records expungement, they're
uh they've graduated. They're receiving all types of services. They're not even repeat offenders. There's so many people that are benefiting. As a as a matter of fact, this wasn't just thrown on the agenda. This was the idea of one or a few of the people in the program and
this came from their ideas and that's why corporate corporation council is doing it here in the chambers to help people that are in these situations have experienced these situations and it's been going on for months. I I want to commend you corporation counsel because
you sit you're very humble and you don't respond. you really don't need to because your work speaks for itself and I want to really commend you. But to hear and to listen to those individuals that started your program, have graduated and are benefiting and their lives have been made the better, that
speaks volumes of what you do. And the reason why we know is because we communicate with you. We voted on an item and then we followed up to find out what's happening. We speak to residents that call us and say like, "You should have put this in place five years ago, six years ago." I've heard that from
people. So, I want to commend you for the work you do. I also want to say this and I say it all every week when we come in the chambers. I think it's it's embarrassing. A lot of seniors watch the meeting. Counciloman Cotton definitely could attest to this. When we're out,
we're at the senior events. The seniors are so embarrassed by the way we talk against each other. When we're calling people idiots and incompetent, they're watching even now. and my phone is on
fire because we all we all sitting here we're we're we're doing what we're elected to do, but we all have competence. And what I believe is that where one falls short, we all should pick up, right? We all have to do it together because when they point their
finger at the city council, they point it at nine. They don't point it at one. They pointed at nine because we sit here advocating, fighting, re people calling us, we're trying to help them, trying to assist, making recommendations and or solutions. So for me, I don't really
take it personal when people say idiot and stuff because I know that does not apply to me. Those are misinformed commentaries. So I don't really uh, you know, entertain that stuff because I know that's not who I am. But to even voice it out, whether it's across the
deis or across the across the podium, I just think it's inappropriate and it's shameful. Tonight, I felt really bad for one of our employees who was dragged and saying was connected to a council member. Just unacceptable. We have to
stop it. People come to work in this city every single day where their salaries should be way more than they are. and and we come and we we take jabs based on a connection or what we feel or what we think. Every once in a while, let's learn how to give people
their flowers while they can smell them. Let's be nice to employees. Let's be nice to each other. You don't know when someone's going to take their last breath. You have no idea. And I tell people, you're right, Councilman Mendes. There are elections coming, right? Cuz when the elections are over, you won't
hear half of this stuff, right? Because some people are going to be in for a rude awakening. >> That's right. when the elections come. So, I'm going just put that on record and I'll say this right before your your uh last comments. Uh, Councilman Mendes, to the public that is viewing and that
watch us every week, I have to apologize. And I know you all call me every week. I speak to you all the time. But as as the state has told us, as the residents, our seniors and students that are watching and doing projects on the city, I have to apologize to you because
I try my very best to keep a decorum, but as you can see, and I know you watch what goes on in these chambers. So, I have to apologize to you. Um, we are um trending well, but I want to apologize to all my council colleagues because I
want to say it publicly. You are not incompetent and you are not idiots. I think that you bring value to the city and value to this council. Let's keep doing the work we're doing to move the city forward. >> Councilman Mendes. >> Um, thank you, Council President. And definitely I just want to remind
everybody the definition of insanity. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Why? If so when we definitely the reason why we're here is just to make decision and putting plan in place
with administration to move the scene in the right direction. But when something doesn't work our job and our responsibility is to change it simple as that. We don't need to start bashing who vote against who vote in favor who did this who did that. I in the beginning
the ball pickup idea I supported because I saw the opportunity of creating more job for our residents making sure that that the public work director add additional staff into the public work department so that we could hire local panasonians to take care of the bulk
situation if it doesn't have the enough man power that's something that we need to talk about it if the plan is not working we have to sit down and review the plan we got to do what it what it what what need to be done to fix it and that's our job and that's our responsibility and I'm glad that it's
been tabled and we're going to have a very extensive discussion about about this project but we definitely you know we are the one that put the city in in a bad position we are the one that put the city down when we're not conducting oursel in a professional way uh when we
cannot agree and disagree respecting each other we give the city a bad name that's what we do so once again let's go back to the table. Let's regroup. I've been saying this from the beginning. Bulk pick up is not working. Yes, people
they could see on the schedule when the time for bulk, but they have to add it. They have to report it. They have to scheduling. We have a lot of senior that they cannot do that. And we're not taking bulk over the phone. So, it's been a problem. And everybody have to
agree on something. And I said this in the beginning after the B situation dumping is being out of control in the city of Patterson. It's about reorganizing what we doing. It's about enforcing the law and going back to the table and do and make a different plan.
Uh with that being said, I know we concluding this meeting. Uh council president and um my case to please. >> No, no, no. We have we have couple of items left. >> Council president could set the
>> No, no, no. Item number 37 and 38. >> I know. >> Let's see. >> 35 US. >> Hold on one second. One second. Item number 38 is a resolution of support for
NJC for affordable housing project. If everybody's okay, can it go on consent? Is a resolution of support. >> I thought you were done. 58 was pulled. >> I don't know what you do with this one.
>> Filo. >> Yeah, >> it's pulled. >> Okay, >> it's back. It's back to work. >> It's pull. We just going to have a discussion >> that how can we fix the situation. That's all. We might come back >> and do the option here. >> We only got one month. We're not We're not going to director.
>> Have a great night, counsel. >> We're not going to talk >> both side of our mouth. Director >> January 1st. >> January 1st. Okay. January 1st. >> January. >> Yeah. Thank you, director.
>> The last week of December. We have a few meetings. >> Um, we have one item left. Item 35. Director, if you'll just come to the microphone >> after. >> That's it. >> Item >> 35. Oh, you're holding it. >> I had some questions on my item for DBW, but
>> 37. Council President, >> there there was two there was an item on DBW u and when I was reading the u the the body of it and and and I don't want to see it happen again um uh it's not your
fault but here in the resolution number 64 he said that the municipal contract was not obtained prior to receiving the u the aforementioned service. I'm talking about the recreation division department public the bus transportation
we went over on the contract and then you had a guy go to get a company in Pake I believe it is the office uh and and operation of it um you know it went over >> Councilman I'm sorry director good night
director we we went over those items almost three hours ago Oh yes, I know. But >> so if you have any questions, if you have any qu no councilman, if you have any questions, please reach out to the director tomorrow. We openly asked you have any issues. They were discussed
earlier. >> No, I know. But when you said uh when I say council president, because it has an item and I pull it out, you say we going to discuss DPW. >> No, those items were placed on consent earlier. >> Consent. Okay. I pull it out on the regular. Then >> I item number 35. Madam cler um for uh
economic development. This is an item um let me just read it. This item was discussed previously first of all um to de to economic development. I want to thank you because this council gave recommendations on going to businesses
um opening up and doing what to expand it. So could you give a a could you talk about the great work that you've done since coming back for this application which is very timesensitive. Please can you go into item 35?
>> Hello. Hello. Yes, definitely. Before I uh give you all the data uh after the last workshop, I do want to introduce uh Miles and Sirill from CME associate who helped us including Chris uh the last individual who helped us uh restructure the plan right with better data
informations. So um you know after the uh this is a a required uh plan that we need to submit for an adoption for uh for the state urban enterprise zone authority. Um after the last uh workshop meeting I took recommendation from every
single indivi every single council members. I contacted them uh individually to get their input. Every single member had gave me some suggestion that I should be working on. And um after that we visited over 260 businesses all over the city. Um uh we
educated them about the urban enterprise zone initiative the program. We also invited them on the September 24th the uh the business community forum where we had uh I believe 18 business owners who participated uh from different industries such as grocery shops, beauty
salon, restaurant owners um and also we hosted um uh the uh business uh follow-up business survey. We distribute a survey. Uh a lot of the business owner did participate on the survey also and also we had the workforce development
meeting. We host we had a meeting with Dr. Rose from the PCC. Um basically asking him what are the some of the issues that you're facing? What what are some of the issues that your students facing uh visiting Patterson's or you know shopping here in Patterson, New Jersey at the urban enterprise zone. And
also had a meeting with Dr. Ken Morris. He's the president I I believe he's the president of the sorry vice president I apologize vice president of St. Joseph hospital he gave us some of the suggestion based on all the data that we received from all of these sectors all
of these factors right um uh five main priorities that we'll be focusing for the next 5 years is public safety trash management beautifification road infrastructure and access to loans and grants I'm asking for your approval to
present it from the state for this uh plan to be adopted which is require required by the state urban enterprise own authority >> councilman Mendes and then council. >> Thank you council president director. I I make my recommendation the last time
um at the last workshop. I I understand that it would it was my impression that you wasn't ready to present it >> but I have to uh commend you because we met at the committee meeting. My concern was the lack of involvement from all the different business from the UC corridor.
Yes, >> I saw the list of all the business that you guys visited and all the uh stakeholders that you guys are included in touch and got involved in this project. That was my main concern. We have to watch this US dollar that we
getting. We have to we have to make sure that we impact the community uh the right way with this money that we impact our commercial corridor. Uh we're facing a lot of challenges in term of safety. We using you we utilizing UC funding for safety to clean this co commissioner
corridor it's involving there and the beautifification so so stay on top and I want to mention again the clean corridor project >> yes >> that's on your shoulder make sure we do it right make sure we do it properly and I mention something in the beginning
sometime we put a plan together and we handle it to you or any other department if the plan doesn't work it's not it's not the city council fault we just got to go back to the table and get it done the right way. This time around, I saw my request presented on this project and
I'm ready to vote in support of this five-year plan. Thank you, Council President. >> Thank you, Councilman Vaz. >> Thank you, Council President. Um, >> director, >> I don't know if you have seen in TV those um those contests about when they
come and sing, everybody had to give their opinion and hit the horn and you pass to the other one to the other final, whatever. I had to admit even if you compare yourself the last meeting. >> Yes. >> When you came up to us and to this one even to Galatian you stand firm you
stand with uh positive uh notes and and you stand with with that you did your homework before coming here. >> Yes. >> Okay. And I and I have to commend you on that. Uh one thing is that we had to be we have to be conscious is that when the
plan was presented for me it was like a repeated plan from the previous that's what I saw now putting the plan together and sitting with your with your department head and talk all over. Yeah. Because you didn't do it by yourself.
Let's be admitted. you sit down with your your co-workers and your directors and set up a plan that really will satisfy us and even your articulation, your way to move your hands and everything. Prove that you had solid from a month that that you came in front
of us. One of the things that we had to keep in mind is we don't know for sure what's going to happen in November. So we had to send a message to the state and whoever is there with this plan that
the city of Patterson is really needed of this funding to move our city in the right direction with the right service. So if you go and look at the past meeting and you
look at yourself now and you present what you say now to them in the state the same way you presented here, they got to say Patterson needs that money. That plan is going to work. So congratulation and um and keep on doing
a good job improving every day. >> Council President. >> Yes, Councilman Odin. >> Thank you, Council President. Um, director Roy and uh, as my council colleagues mentioned about your previous meeting uh, until today, one thing I really commend which is you did not just
send a mass uh, messages or emails to all the council members but reached out personal level as well to hear their personal um, uh, suggestions and you took all the suggestions. Uh, you have hosted few community forums in between as well. So I believe that your uh next
5 years project is reflect what Patterson is in need and uh I I I think it's a great move and and exactly same thing we need to for for every every other steps that we do in the future because as an elected official we deal
with people everyday basis when we speak out on different different things whether DPW or your items we actually speak for the people >> because people don't talk to you about their concern but they talk to to us about their concern. So when we we clear this gap, we get connected with the
people directly, it really reflect what patter exactly is is looking forward to. So I I commend you for that and looking forward to support you next. Thank you the team for the teamwork. Great job guys. >> So let me let me brag on you for a
minute. One second, Councilwoman Cot. Let me brag on you >> cuz sometimes people they point fingers but they don't take the time to really talk about what you've done >> since you got there. So prior to you getting in that position, we were not
receiving these dollars. So we have to thank the late great Sheila Oliver who was our former lieutenant governor that fought for these dollars when you came in. Let me just brag on some of the stuff you've done. Clean corridor project.
We've done offduty police officers to bri provide public safety twice 1.6 million. Now we've expanded it to 1.8 million. We've resurfaced many roads. We brought trucks through DPW,
whether it's been public safety, and then you're also giving employees over, which DPW just mentioned, to help with the bulk pickup, rebutifying or beautifying the community, the planters,
uh the lanterns, some of the the the decorations and the sceneries that happens all over the community. This is just to name a few of the great work that you've done. And I want to say this to you publicly and you know I've said this to you privately. What people say
about you doesn't matter. What you know about yourself is what matters. And I want to tell you publicly since you've been in that job, you've been an asset to the city. The fact that you live in this city and you came back to help do what's necessary to move our city
forward by making it clean and safe and beautifying it and so many other things. I want to say thank you. You're not getting >> we from this this from this side there were some questions and concerns. I want to thank you because what you did you took it took those lemons and you made
lemonade. You went home you called all the council members. You reached out to them whether they responded to you or not. You reached out and you went out into the community to find vehicles and methods. How do you reach out to the businesses? You went to some of the experts. They gave you some ideas. the
business. You didn't talk about like Chamber of Commerce and all those people that helped you too, but all those people that gave you help and then you went with your team to these businesses, whether they wanted to participate or not, you kept track, you kept record. I want to commend you for doing your due
diligence. And tonight, coming prepared before this council, >> I am definitely supporting it because let me say this in closing. I was on the local finance board meeting with the administration and there's one thing about compliance
>> that they are very concerned about. >> Yes. >> But the fact the fact that you did what you did, I am sure that when you present this to the state, they won't have any questions and or concerns. So I commend you heavily. We need to continue to have
employees like yourself and so many others that work for this city that do a great job every day that never get the pat on the back and never get the thank you. Councilwoman Cotton, >> you can help me. >> Thank you, Council President. Um I just
want to say I too was in in the meeting and I want to thank um the director and the for inviting me because I'm not on economic development committee but I have I have always said that you know you need to go to committee meetings so you can really understand and you can
ask some of those questions that you may not get a answer. You can try to figure out like what some of your colleagues may ask. So this way you can be ready. you can have some of the answers that you think that they may have. So, but I just want to say that, you know, doing
this you you your team put together a good plan and we got to move forward. We not going to know what going to happen in January. They might just throw the whole thing out the window, but for now, we better get it down there while we can get it down there. And you know, that's what we
have to try to understand. If we have to get something there, we have to get it there before we're not able to get there. We can't keep waiting and keep waiting and keep waiting. We got to get it down there. And you worked very hard. Your team worked very hard. I want to say to our director, uh, Tiffany Delay
for working hard, all the gentlemen here for you, uh, Mr. Washington, you got to work together. And I'm happy that I was invited to the committee meeting, even though I'm not on the committee, but I'm a true believer of committee meetings. Um, because it's important because you can ask stuff that
you think your colleagues may ask um, to see what's going on. So, I want to say I commend you. Congratulations. Thank you for inviting me to that committee meeting that we had. Thank you, Council President. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Councilman Jackson.
>> Thank you, Mr. Roy. Um, I'm searching my inbox. All the items I asked you for, I don't see anything in my inbox for me at all. the the the report on the um the the communications from the garbage
cans. Did you ever send that to me? >> We were heavily invested in this. >> Okay. No problem. >> All right. No problem. So So you never sent it. Just >> that's fine. That's fine. I don't That's not important. >> But they're working. I just They are working.
>> The DVW is taking up the trash. >> Mr. Voy, we don't need to elongate this. Okay. >> I don't need you to tell me something's working when I'm watching seeing garbage cans just overflow on garbage. I asked you for a simple item. His mic. You got
to turn his mic back on. Council President, >> asked you for a simple report that I never got. Simple as that. You want to tell me it's working? I don't want to take your word for it. I want to see the report. >> You said you visited 200 plus businesses since the last time you was here. >> Yes, sir. I have the report.
>> Where's the list of the businesses? Uh the list of businesses in appendix D if you if you see it on the plan is is in your um is in your uh email which was sent to you. Uh the businesses from
downtown Union Avenue, 21st Avenue, uh Villian Avenue, Park Avenue, Broadway, Summer, all the list of the businesses that we visited and we educated them about the urban enterprise zone initiative. We encouraged them to
complete the survey and also we in invited them on the 7 uh 20 September 24th meeting. Yes sir. >> How many new new members did you gain from the 200 plus v visits? >> How many new I'm sorry. >> Uh member memberships to the UZ
>> council president. >> Yes >> membership. >> This question are out of line. It seem like he he's like personal >> uh attack. He said it he visited 216. This should be enough. If you want a
list of it, ask him. I was the last meeting too. It seemed like you have something personal against him which is an call for council council um councilman Jackson. You could vote no on the on the project. That's all. >> Are you done? >> I am done.
>> Council President, point of order. Why did you allow him to interrupt me? He didn't have a point of order. He didn't have anything. I had the floor without council president. >> This is not something new matter of the talk about people. >> Matter of the quorum people I learned
from you. I learned from you for you. >> Can you allow just Councilman Jackson to finish? Please >> let him finish. >> So, Brother Roy, by all means. I didn't say anything about you personally. I don't really know much about you personally. A
personal attack could be me saying, "Oh, I don't like your haircut." I don't care about any of that. This is not personal. I ask you the same questions that I asked of anybody else. Jerry's physiologist stood up here and I asked him the same question. >> He's
he lacks certain levels of of intellect in order to understand that. He may think this is a personal attack, but it's not. I'm simply asking you to be accountable. He's making this this claim. I mean, there's a lot of things. I've been a member of the UEE for 25
plus years when there was one person who ran the uee. She didn't have multiple employees, which you do. You have multiple employees who paid very well. She didn't have all of the things that you have, but yet and still there were a
list of businesses that attended a yearly uee function. There was a list of businesses that received benefit from the UEE, the facade program, the sidewalk program, the awning program. There's I can continue on. There's
nothing personal. So, I don't have any clue what this dude is talking about. He He doesn't even understand what he's talking about. Once again, you visited 2, which is very impressive. I I mean, you have a support staff. I don't have any issue with that.
So, how of the 240 plus businesses you said you you visited, how many of them are members of the UE? >> How many were members of the >> correct? >> All of them. >> They're they're business owners within the urban enterprise zone to
>> That's that's not how it works. You must become a member of the UEE in order to f to receive benefit. You can be in the zone. >> You can be in the zone. >> It's not a said. >> Well, so let me just provide some clarification. So the whole point of the
five-year plan is really to solicit um feedback from the businesses that operate within the zone. It's not meant to be a membership signup at that time. It's really to engage. >> I didn't say there was director Well, correct. And so some of those members,
so some of those businesses were already involved in the UEES program. They have registered at the state level. But again, the purpose of that engagement during that time was really to get their buy in and support um as well as engagement to support the
plan. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> All right. So, so, so again my reasoning for questions for the questioning is is purposeful because if you visited 240
plus businesses within the zone, would it not behoove us to inquire of whether or not businesses are interested in participating in the UE program? Will we not want to visit if we paid those vis
businesses a visit? Will we not want to waste man hours and man time? Should we not have them signed up? Should there not be now a communication method amongst those businesses? So when when we want to poll them >> Yeah.
>> right for their input because once I'm looking at at at the document that he's he's saying and I I'm on page four. I don't see any list here of the businesses that he's talking about
because I would like to follow up with businesses like I would like to go talk to the businesses that he spoke to. So you looking for my support for this, right? So I want to be able to go and say, "Hey, >> did the did personnel from D from UE pay
you a visit? Have they satisfied some of your issues and concerns?" We're in the corridor, right? So the corridor is addressing certain matters whether it's crime and you know we're spending 6 point what $1.8 million cleanliness etc.
We have these garbage cans that are there. Are we polling? Did we ask those businesses are these garbage cans working for you? >> That was part of the September 24th public engagement session where those that attended were able to provide their
business information as well as contact information. We did ask who was already registered as part of the state's UEE program. Many of them were already um registered with the state. Those that were not, we were able to provide them
with information on how to register. They can register directly through the state, which many have already done outside of being approached by the UEE office. >> How many businesses were in attendance at this >> at the public forum? There were about 45
businesses. Um I stayed for pretty much um the earlier part of the session which was partly facilitated by me. So yes. >> So so listen I I'm not going to prolong this director. Obviously there's a um
some push back from my line of questioning or my inquiry right as the legislative body investigative powers is the the power that is is bestowed upon me I don't have one email I've asked the
director for this the these same questions before a list of the businesses right the 44 that plus that was at in attendance that I don't have a list of that the 200 240 plus that he's asked like when I go downtown and I speak to the businesses and I ask them
well have no their sentiment to me is they've never been spoken to Broadway Pizza how do we not who spoke you you went you visited Broadway Pizza >> definitely >> electronics Broadway pizza >> yes definitely
>> when >> there was a significant push to do outreach to the downtown business >> since the last meeting or prior >> since the last meeting. >> So you spoke to them since the last meeting, >> Mr. Roy? >> After the last meeting, yes, we we went back within the 3 weeks period.
>> We did speak to Broadway Electronics, Broadway Pizza, all the businesses within the Broadway that session. Yes. >> Probably the person that he spoke was not there >> and Broadway pizza actually they're part of the urban enterprise zone. They're member of the urban enterprise zone, I believe. So yes. Yes.
>> All right. So listen, if I can get a list, I will be satisfied. I don't understand. How is it so difficult to get a report? >> I really don't get it. I'm I I don't think that what I'm asking for, director, if you're telling me that what I'm asking for is unreasonable.
>> No, it's not unreasonable. I'm just trying to >> after >> from the last meeting, you know, I think everything outside of the trash compactors has been supplied or at least, you know, been mentioned by Mr. Roy. >> I have zero emails from him. >> Zero. I don't have any communication
from him at all unless I'm I asked Councilman Khik to help me with the spelling of his name. Check my inbox. I don't have any. May Is there someone else that's sending out communications to council members from under his uh his purview? >> No. >> No. All right. Well,
>> thank you. So, thank you once again. Thank you for the full package that you had delivered to all council members. >> Motion to close. >> Motion to close. >> Motion to close by. Motion. Motion to close by. Two other items. >> They're on consent. We did those already. >> Okay. >> Uh motion to close by Councilman Mendes.
Second by Councilman. Roll call, Madam Clerk, to close. >> Good night, directors. >> Motion to close, madam clerk. >> Council President, I want to make sure he's on. >> Motion to close, madam clerk. >> Are you probation? >> Council member. Motion to close, madam clerk.
>> Motion to close the workshop session of October 14th, 2025. Councilwoman Cotton. >> Thank you. Thank you. Um, Madame Clerk, I just want to say for everyone that came out here tonight um to speak um at the city council meeting and you know, I
just want to say that um you know, when when when people call and they need to get advice or they need to be guided to the right person or be guided to the right place, you know, you do your best to send them to where they need to go or or if you're not sure where they need to
go, you do your best to try to find out. So, but so everybody who came down here tonight, you know, thank you for coming out expressing your concern. You know, you want to figure out where to go, what to do. Um there's so many things that's
happened here in our city. And so, I just want to say thank you all. Thank you all for watching. Um sometimes I think the council meeting um I'm not here and you never hear me bashing any council members and I'm never going to do that. I'm never going to call nobody
out. I'm never going to do any of that. So, for all you out there watching, God bless you. Enjoy. Uh, and for those who came to speak tonight, I thank you all for coming out, expressing your concerns and
everything. And my last thing tonight is that it's my baby's girl's birthday. Candace Cotton, who is an assistant soccer coach, who is the head softball coach, who is assistant basketball coach at
>> John F. Kennedy High School. I want to wish her a very, very happy birthday. >> Happy birthday, Candace to you all. >> Happy birthday to you. Yeah. >> Good night to all my colleagues. Have a
good night to my madam clerk and my secretary Sophia sponsored by >> my corporation council and my CFO. Have a good night. God bless you all out there. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you to my police officers. Thank you police officers. Thank you. Thank you. God
bless you all. Have a good night. Madame clerk. Yes. >> My vote is yes. >> Thank you council. Councilman Davis after Councilman Jackson. >> Thank you madam clerk. Happy birthday, Miss Cotton. My vote is yes. >> Thank you, Councilman Khalik. Coun.
>> Thank you. >> Good night, Councilman Mendes. >> Well, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Craig. I want to just uh I want to thank all the resident for just coming into the people's house and express their concern. Uh let me also take this quick moment to wish my younger son uh
Daniel's birthday happy birthday. Tomorrow, he's turning 17. He's ready to finish high school at PCTI. He's ready to go to the Marine. >> He's ready to go to the Marine. And I'm very, very excited to celebrate with him. God bless you, son. God bless me
with a beautiful family. Um, council members, um, we have a lot of work to do. Let's just put things aside, do the get the job done. My mad clerk. >> Thank you, Councilman. Councilman Omar. >> Thank you, Madam Clerk. Happy birthday, Coach Candace Cotton. >> Yes. >> And with that being said, good night,
Patterson. Thank you, Madam Clerk. My vote is yes. >> Thank you, Councilman Nuden. >> Thank you, Madam Clerk. Um, before I close, I want to remind council president, uh, there is an item that I have included, item number 72 regarding
the ordinance chapter 421, article 3 of the Patterson code to regulate smoke shop and tobacco stores. These items was holding as a close to a year and it was promised to the people that
it will be discussed in the committees never took place. I brought it because if you want discussion to take place on the air you can do this and I respectfully requesting if any discussion should be done in the committees please do so
because next week I'm bringing the community here on the uh regular meeting to speak about it one more time >> a committee meeting cannot be an excuse how how long do you need for a committee meeting 6 months 7 months year
>> the draft was done by the corporation council which do not bypass >> the state statue. Okay. >> So I I clearly stating one more time the Patterson >> especially the all the um organization that are involved they're still waiting
on it and very simple >> it it is it stays as you know this if you walk around the city every single corner there's a smoke shop going there's no limit to it >> and I don't know what holding this so
long to have that discussion done We can wait till after the four that'll be fine. >> Council president I am just telling you if this is another way of holding an item for year and I'm not sure what politics involved to it.
I have no idea 7 8 months committee cannot have the discussion done. So whether and I'm request I requested um uh Councilman Ibrahim
since he is in the um uh what committee um health and emergenc let me just >> let me just put it on record one one second now we're in the middle of roll call point of order >> this is >> don't threat Threat nobody. Don't threat. >> That's right. Do not send threats. >> Don't threat.
>> Council members, we >> threat. What do you think? Threat. I'm sorry. >> Council members, it's not a threat. It's not >> point of point of order. Point of order. Council, you're speaking, but you just made a threat that if they don't do something, Council President,
respectfully, if you if you feel so, >> if you feel so, I'm sorry. It's not a threat. What I'm saying is you saw that I this item was addressed multiple times in this chamber. It was promised to the people that we'll have the discussion done in the committee. We'll bring it
back. It's over 6 months with that promise. Where's our promises lying? >> Council president if I can just >> That's exactly what I'm saying. Council president saying >> so I am requesting to the committee chairs please uh have the discussion done.
Counciloman Cotton, please let him finish. >> Oh my god, >> we're in the middle of roll call. >> Have the discussion done and bring it back to the council. Let have the vote on it. If council feels something should be done, it should be done. It's
something already drafted by our corporation council which follows the state statutes. Do not bypass any state law. So I'm forwarding the draft to all the council members and also giving a hard copy to everyone to
please make sure um have the discussion in the committee. I don't want to just bypass the committee and come here but I brought it back because I was waiting about 7 8 months just on one item. I don't want to respond to council. >> No, this is wrong. Council council
woman, I respect you, but this is so wrong when you're saying sometimes it takes a year. Then what kind of services we are providing to our city? A simple ordinance discussion takes years in the committee. What kind of things we are
promising to our city is something very important. Every single corner of our city, we can see the smoke shops growing. We can see brave products in in people's flavor products, no regulations. We are trying to regulate regulate these items over the city especially to handing over to our
teenagers. Um with uh I I'm expecting that committee will take this in seriously and uh move it forward. Uh I requested uh councilman Ibrahim and I'm I'm requesting you council president as well uh please have the discussion uh done so
that we can move it forward. and I'm passing I'm going to forward the email in a minute before I leave the council chamber and also giving you a hard copy to every single council. >> Thank you my my vote is yes. >> Thank you council council. >> Thank you. Thank you madame clerk. Um
council um I just want to say this uh and I want to I want to I want to set the record clear. We are the legend body of the city of Patterson. We could write ordinance. We could write resolution. We could vet it through the council. We
could vote on it. We could move it forward. If the state has a problem, if any organization has a problem that we have voted for something to take action and to put it in place, councilman, councilman, councilman, councilman,
listen to this. If if the state has a problem or any organization profit nonprofit has a problem for anything that we have adopted or voted into law or ordinance in the city of Pass, they could content
it. 25 days they have it before it take enacted the law to prevent us to do laws or ordinance that people are complaining every day. Even counseling will be kind complains about a smoke shop. Everybody
smoke about the the smoke shop, what they doing out there, whatever. If they have the evidence that could support whatever Councilman um Uding is putting on forward, then we could discuss it. If it gets voted, let them let them let them challenge it. They don't want to
challenge it. We voted for for ban every license of cannabis and the mayor veto it. So, you know, and we had the chance to go back into uh fighting with the mayor. So, that's one thing. Uh I will look into this councilman and if if if
the law is supporting the state law support if the state law support what it says here and it has a statue that because licenses are regulated by the state of New Jersey. If if the if if if
if the ordinance you creating, okay, or amending have the state have the state approval on it, we could modify, but we cannot go over the state or under the state. Uh no, no,
>> no, no. That's NJ's statue out there. So, I see it here. I see it here. I saw it right here in the third warehouse. Now, ladies and gentlemen, and I got to say this loud and clear, and I'm going to direct it to Mr. Olivaris because he's the one that came to the public
portion and stayed where he stayed. No matter what you say about my wife, no matter how you see her, if she's not professional or not or professional, she holds a master's degree. She's well capable to do any job in the city of
Patterson or outside the city. One thing you're not going to do is Mr. Olivari is to kill kill the love that I have for my wife and the capacity that she have to move forward in any position in the city
of Patterson. Saying that, thank you for bracing the knowledgement that my wife is a well capable person to work in the city of Patterson. Saying that, congratulation Felis Meeni Espana. We're going to be celebrating on the 24th. I
believe it is 24. Uh also tomorrow there is a program uh by the second floor the mayor of the city of Pansson. So let's let's cooperate and be here. Uh last but not least, thank you cooperative council for being the man that you are standing
strong and proving that you are a man of law. a man of law. Saying that, council president, nice meeting today. >> I'm sorry. >> And let's keep on doing the business of
the city of H. Can't mad clerk. Thank Oh, by the way, by the way, I have to say this loud and clear. Madame clerk, to your staff, to the staff of the city council, thank you for decorating the chambers for the Heritage Month. I will
I will request we understand that it ends on the 15th to please leave the chamber the way it is for our regular meeting to enjoy at least another view for this beautiful beautiful huh >> we have our celebration on the 24th >> of what
>> for what >> I know oh that's why we got a celebration on 24th thank you it was it was it was granted by the way >> are you in a hurry sir Thank you. >> God bless you all. Let's honor those
that have fought for the life of for freedom in the United States. And also, thanks God, peace is in the Middle East, >> right? >> Peace in the Middle East. I don't care if he did it, who not did it, or whatever. We was praying for that peace
and hopefully Palestine recoup from all the losses that they had in this two years of of war. and pray for every and we going to try to keep the peace the same way we keep the peace in this chambers. Good night. My vote is yes. >> Thank you, Councilman Council President.
>> So, let me just say this. Uh, Council Member Lesa Chambers will continue to stay decorated. Our Hispanic Heritage program will be on Friday, October 24th at 5:00. So, it will continue. Let me say this, right? Cuz I heard some commentary in regards to an ordinance
that was placed on the agenda. Every council member is fully aware of the process, right? It was stated by Councilman Uden that it's been six months. I've only been the council president for three months. Every time July 1st comes is a new council
president and then we set committees. Some of the committees have changed. It was sent to the committees. Once it comes out of the two committees, which is health and human services and the public safety, it is then brought to the council. We cannot
um usurp the authority of our public safety officials who would have to enforce it and make sure the language is correct and we would have to make sure through health and human services that they have the correct personnel. That is not our role. Our role is to write the legislation and sit in these committees
if possible possibly Councilman Uden you could talk to the chair of health and human services to see if possible you can be a part of that committee when they have their conversation. And we've already been in conversation with public safety. So these are conversations that are happening and every council person
knows especially our vet veteran council members what happens in committee there may be concerns they may want to change some things. We take those recommendations because those are the people that will enforce what we put in place based on the fundamentals of
government. So for me, I hear the commentary. If you don't do this, we're going to do this. It's not going to move anything because if it's not on the agenda and it has not passed committee, we cannot vote on it. So, we're waiting for Health and Human Services and Public
Safety. Council President is not holding this item back. It is going through the process. Madame Clerk, uh, our secretary, our police officer, CFO, corporation council, and council members, thank you for your service.
Happy birthday to my niece, Candace, and my Sor. And to all of you celebrating a birthday or anniversary. Um, to my granddaughter who turned 9 years old, happy birthday to her. Good night, Patterson. And don't forget to stay safe
and be well. My vote is yes, Madam Clerk. Thank you, Council President. The votes are eight in favor, one absent. The rec the workshop session of October 14th, 2025 is hereby adjourned. Good night, Patterson. >> I just want to
>> Thank you. Close.