e all right good evening everyone uh welcome to the city of Patterson's planning board meeting of uh April 3D uh I'm going to ask everyone to please rise for the flag salute do we have the flag there commissioner claudo yes okay put it in front of the camera so we could see it okay good I pledge allegiance United America and to the Republic stands under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all thank you right I'm going to remind everyone to please if you're not speaking to mute yourself so we don't have any feedback and uh this is a regular meeting tonight and let me just see something so um let me just okay Commission commers planning board staff ladies and gentlemen as chairwoman of the Pat the city of Patterson's planning board I call the special meeting this is uh this is not a special meeting tonight is it it's regular right it's a special meeting okay sorry I call this meeting of April 3rd 2024 to order I hereby state that all of the provisions of the state of New Jersey public meeting law have been fully and completely met that the notice of Provisions required have been properly posted in the planning board office and with the city of Patterson clerk that the public notice and advertisements have been published in The Herald news on March 24th 2024 in accordance with the law and that the copies of such notice and public advertisements are on file in the planning board office as is also the agenda listing the applications to be taken up by the planning board at this meeting public participation will be available by calling 1 97 3 3211 1579 meeting ID number is 8326 and you press star one to listen to the meeting press star three to be added to the speaker queue on the date and time that the meeting is scheduled to commence that would be this evening the public may also participate in the meeting by accessing the website of the city of Patterson www. Patterson NJ .ov and following the email link for the meeting which is WW you also can go on with www.youtube.com SLC city of Patterson NJ City Hall uh forlive all right so uh tonight's procedures will be in accordance with the rules and regulations and bylaws as here to for determined by the planning board at its office at 125 Ellison Street in the city of Patterson Madam Secretary roll call please commissioner claudo commissioner Claudio okay commissioner Fisher present commissioner Hassan I'm here commissioner Hussein presid commissioner lanso present commissioner Roman present commissioner Omar present and Madame chair present thank you okay thank you everyone okay just remind I'm just reminding you one more time to please make sure you mute yourself until you you need to speak into the microphone um tonight we have I believe it's luchano Delon 349-351 Madison Avenue block 270 uh 2709 lot5 Mr mariconda yes uh good evening uh Madame chair and Commissioners Alan mariconda 726 Marcus She Patterson on behalf of Mr Delon okay thank you um so uh Miss farsb are you ready to uh give us your summary yes Madam sure thank you okay please go ahead sure the applicant proposes to subdivide the existing 5,545 square foot parcel into two lots proposed law 15.01 is to contain the existing two family dwelling on a proposed 3,45 foot lot proposed lot 15.2 is to contain a proposed three story 2unit duelling and a proposed 2500 square foot lot this proposal is located within the R3 high medium density residential district proposed lot 15.01 request variances for lot area 5,000 square ft required and 3,000 45 Square ft proposed lot width 50 ft required and 2666 ft proposed front yard setback 20 ft required and 0er ft existing from 8th Avenue and 4.2 ft existing from Madison Avenue side yard setback 4T required and 2.56 ft propos as a result of the subdivision parking set by 3 ft required and 2.07 ft per proposed and parking four off street parking spaces required and three parking spaces proposed propose lot 15.2 request variances for lot area 5,000 square ft required and 2500 square ft proposed lot width 50 ft required and 25 ft proposed front yard setback 20 ft required and 15 ft proposed sidey yard setback 4 ft required and 3.08 ft proposed on each side yard combined sidey yard setback 14 ft required and 6.16 ft proposed lot coverage 40% required and 48% proposed and parking four off street parking spaces required and two off street parking spaces proposed inside the garage this proposal requires minor subdivision approval San approval and bul variances Madam chair Miss far boot uh Mr mariconda oh okay uh yes good evening Madam chair again uh we're ready to proceed we'll be calling Mr Evans as our architect planner and the applicant is available if needed uh we believe this is a very straightforward subdivision on a corner property which we feel is always an advantage and we're located in the R3 Zone which of of course permits high medium density residential not just two family and uh we have the existing and proposed two families on the site uh call Mr Evans at this time yes please good evening Mr Evans please raise your right hand do you swear the testimony about to give this proceeding is the truth the whole truth and nothing but truth yes I do thank you we accept Mr Evans as an expert witness thank you okay uh Mr Evans thank you uh would you uh give us the benefit of the site plan and subdivision review uh we're incorporating the subdivision map of UL surveying is that correct uh yes so U I have an ex um the plans I could uh share um on the screen um Let me let me know if you can see that can you see the plans yes can okay yes yes okay so what we have is a four sheet submission um the first sheet shows the uh existing building and the proposed new two family um that's the site plan subdivision plan uh which is on the intersection of Madison Avenue and 8th Avenue the existing house is situated um towards the front on Madison Avenue and along um 8th Avenue the site is is uh larger than 5,000 which has been typical with a lot of subdivisions we've done it's 5545 square feet and M can you zoom that in yeah sorry I'll give you a thank you how was that a little better there so so as you could see the existing house is at the intersection of 8th Avenue and Madison and uh presently adjacent to the house where the proposed two families going there's a curb cut on Madison Avenue which has um diagonal parking spaces which creates um a condition of um angled parking and it's really not suited for the site and it would probably um enforce people or um uh people would need to back out onto Madison Avenue so by removing that curb cut on Madison Avenue uh we designed a house where the the garage is in the rear of the new uh dwelling and we've created an easement for lot 1502 which is the new house uh to cross uh 1501 and enter uh and exit on 8th Avenue so that would be a shared uh parking agreement with the two lots so we have two car parking for the new house and then we have three spaces uh in the rear of the existing house so we'd have five spaces three for the existing dwelling and two for the proposed dwelling and what we've done is we've we've designed the house where we've brought it up close to Madison Avenue not as close as the other one um but it's 15 ft off the front and that gives us some uh landscaped area some green space in the rear and um we've designed it also with drainage uh taken into consideration for both Pro properties and so we have 3.08 off of the sidey Yards of the new dwelling so it's 2500 square ft is the new um site and the um addition the the um hold on the existing house we have the variances here 3, 45 Square fet for the existing dwelling that's going to remain so uh going to the um next sheet we have the or the first sheet we have the site details the tax map showing the site location and then going to sheet S2 we have uh the soil erosion site plan details uh utility details and then going to the architectural plans we show um the the ground floor the um second floor and the uh third floor which is ground floor first and second uh we show on the ground floor we have the as I mentioned the parking the two car parking garages in the rear of the building that's accessed through the easement so we have side by side parking then we have we've cut the the ground level into two spaces we have uh storage units adjacent to the garage so Unit B has storage uh 395 Square ft and Unit A has um 251 Square ft so uh Unit B is acccessed off of the garage and then Unit A we have uh a door and it's access through the stair and up through the second floor so the second floor plan is a three-bedroom two bath unit and um you may have seen U these come before you similar type of um dwellings uh in the past and we have three bedrooms uh we have walk-in closet for bedroom one with a full bathroom and then bedroom two and bedroom three have a shared bathroom and then we have laundry mechanical um uh on the second floor and then as you can see we have a nice open kitchen dining living room plan um which is access from the front of the building so the stair comes up there's a landing there's two entrances there's one to the second floor and then there's 's a door with stairs going up to the um third floor so the third floor is pretty much identical to the second floor with the open plan with the exception of uh the open stair at the top of the uh Landing which uh gives you a little bit more uh open uh feeling and open uh space for that uh unit and then we go to the elevation uh we have the front elevation of uh the two new two family and that's on Madison Avenue so as you can see we have uh stairs coming up and we uh have a landing and then we come up to the um the two doors for the entrances to the apartments and then we've given it a nice Colonial um appearance with different mix of materials we have um brick uh and shake and um we have um ver iCal siding on the Gable ends so we've broken it up with a lot of different aesthetic um features on the residential and then on the left elevation that shows you the two-car garage uh which is entered off the rear of the building and then um the side elevation right side elevation and then the rear elevation so U basically that's uh the the um units in nutshell the both units meet the minimum uh requirement of 1100 ft we have, 1500 uh square feet with the store including the ground storage unit for a and we have 1,600 for Unit B so uh that would be um the application that we're presenting okay yeah I'm sorry madam chair yes just a couple followup points Mr Evans did you describe how the parking is laid out and how many there are for each uh lot yeah so we have three for uh 1501 which is the corner lot and that is on the rear uh of the 1501 and then we have the two parking spaces um that we have access through the easement uh for 1502 so we have two for um the new two family and then we have the three for the corner uh two family so the existing uh two family retains three parking spaces yes and of course that's a positive benefit as compared to some subdivisions where some parking is lost on some occasions uh so we have a total of five spaces for the two lots yes and the parking for the new two families side by side which is a little bit better for Access for the uh both cars and also as I mentioned we would be removing any access on Madison Avenue which is a county road so um we thought that it would be um better to have that uh shared driveway for both units um and removing that driveway where cars are backing out onto Madison Avenue historically no doubt that's a positive uh and we will provide a deed of easement uh in perpetuity as per the report of the staff for the driveway access uh serving both serving the benefit of lot 15.02% that would conclude Mr Evan's testimony Madam chair okay Mr mariconda is that your only witness for this evening besides the applicant yeah is just on standby yes no other professionals okay so this would be the time that I'm going to open it up to the public if there's anyone in the public who has any questions of uh Mr Evans the architect now would be the time to come forward do we have any callers I'm waiting on response from Ryan okay and just have everybody there are any callers please uh please press uh star three uh to get in the speaker queue no callers Madam chair so then at this time I'm going to open it up to the Commissioners um Commissioners any questions from uh the commissioners of uh Matt Evans no I don't have any uh questions about the uh instruction I'm sorry I didn't hear you commissioner Fisher you don't have any questions or you do no I said I don't have any questions I don't know if anybody else does okay you don't have any I have a question yes okay um commissioner Amar is that you yeah I can't see anyone's fa okay there you go I can't see anyone's face because I just have the the plans up okay um your question please so so they were explaining that the Lots with it's a subdivision but the Lots will be sharing uh the five parking spots are these um the same owner will owe the two uh Lots um Madame chair Mr Evans can address that a little more specifically there is a total of five spaces and they're allocated Mr Evans can you explain that again yes I so I know that there is five spaces but saying is these two lots are going to be owned by the same you know the property is going to be owned by the same owner the two spaces t two lots well when the subdivision occurs initially uh the owner would still remain as property owner of the two lots created but he would have the ability of course to convey in the future that's why we create we're creating the easan and perpetuity and if you need Mr Evans to explain further how that would function we could yeah because I to go after it's you know if it's owned by another person how they're going to do to access the parking in the back and how they're gonna keep sharing the five spaces okay yes there's not a total share Arrangement let Mr Evans can you elaborate on that again yes so um the the the access for lot 1502 is basically just the the right to tr travel across the property of 1501 and uh they're not going to park there they're not going to leave vehicles or any storage or the cars there basically they just have the access to come across and park in their garage and then back out onto the easement and out um out onto 8th Avenue so the three spaces would be dedicated to 151 and the two spaces are dedicated to 1502 so if the 1502 is sold it has um you know in perpetuity rights to cross to uh access through on to Avenue so there's not any other Arrangement than what we're proposing okay so it's in perpetuity meaning it can be done and that's it and and there'll be no arguments between the two two uh owners of the property any future owner uh would acknowledge by purchasing the property based on the deed of of easement and perpetuity Commissioners that this is the way the property would be utilized for all owners and uh I'd like to put that um they don't charge the tenants for the parkings being that you don't have enough parking lots yes so this is this is not going to be any par any rental charges whatsoever can we put that as a condition Madam chair yes you could do that but yeah this is private property I doubt they're gonna they're going to charge but we can absolutely do that any other questions commissioner Mo um I believe those are my questions thank you okay Commissioners um actually no I'm sorry ahead that's okay go ahead there was um I don't know if this is for this application of the next one no those are my questions for this one I'm sorry okay all right uh Commissioners do any other Commissioners have any questions of Mr Evans right I really can't see any of the commissioners the plans are up can you take your plans down thank you okay so let me see the heads there okay um does anyone have any questions at all okay Mr Evans regarding this application okay I don't see anyone else so I'm GNA ask um Mr mariconda you please summarize um Madam chair I'm sorry you did not close oh i' like to close yeah I want to I make a motion to close the public portion do I have a motion second sorry wait can you just give one more chance for anybody who has comments because the the last portion was questions this is for comments so just announce it again please thank you does anyone have any comments from the public now would be the time to come forward can you check to see if we have anyone in the queue yes I did and we're waiting hold on no callers Madam chair now can I have a motion to close the public I'm make the motion do you do I have a second to close the public portion second second by commissioner Lonzo all in favor I hi okay thank you all right so I'm gonna ask Mr mariconda to summarize please yes thank you madam chair as I indicated in my opening I felt this was a a positive beneficial minor subdivision not only in terms of the Street location on the corner lot but the fact that we're providing good parking uh and off and off and no access or Ingress or erress from Madison Avenue we'll be getting bake County review we've established that we're going to be preparing a de of eement just for Access purposes each lot will contain its own parking spaces uh it's it's an R3 Zone which allows multifam so it's appropriate that it's before this board as a permitted use uh it's a positive benefit the area contains a variety of lot sizes and various residential and Commercial uses so we feel it has a positive impact in that regard thank you you're welcome and I just um this is a two-part Madam chair this is a two-part Madam CH yes um just in terms of the subdivision um you're about to say this is going to be two-part vote but the DeMent which is set forth in detail and the plans which was testified to would be a condition of the subdivision yes you're talking about the right away the the right away for the correct that that would be on the subdivision motion if the motion for approval were to be made not on the um St plan of B variant right for the easement in perpetuity okay got it all right right so thank you Mr aquaviva would anyone like to make um a motion on this application yeah I can make a motion for the subdivision uh is that commissioner Hussein Assan some where I don't see him well a lot of lot of face there Madam I see you there I see you there okay go ahead go ahead please you heard this is for the subdivision and and the uh the deed and perpetu of for the easement yeah thank you all right so I'm making the motion for the subdivision the property is 349 351 well I'll say applicant is Luciano deance paron me if I'm saying wrong 349 351 Madison Avenue Patterson New Jersey 07524 the property address is 349-351 Madison Avenue block 2 709 L 15 so I'm sending um I'm requesting uh Bard attorney to do the I'm making a motion for the subdivision right the minor subdivision for approval for the subdivision yes second with with with the condition yeah with the condition yes that that Mr aquaviva just mentioned about the uh the pretu of easement okay uh do I have a second second second commissioner o roll call please commissioner Hassan yes commissioner clao yes yes commissioner Fisher is this for the subdivision yes okay yes uh commissioner Hussein yes commissioner lanso yes commissioner Roman yes commissioner Mar yes and Madame chair North yes thank you there another one okay so next may I have a motion uh on this application for uh the site plan I'll make it man' yes commissioner Hussein uh like to make motion for approval on uh this application is L applicant l lucino d 349-351 Madison Avenue parison New Jersey 07524 property 349-351 medison Avenue block 2709 L 15 I moved at the board of attorney prepare resolution guaranteeing uh s plan approval V city engineer hon p servation service county of P medison Avenue is a county road record driveway access asement agreement in a preparatory with the conditions yes okay second by commissioner Lono roll call please commissioner Hassan yes commissioner clao yes commissioner Fisher yes commissioner Hussein yes commissioner Leo yes commissioner Roman yes commissioner Omar yes and Madam chair nor yes thank you congratulations the applicant we thank you for the approval commissioner thank you okay okay um so now uh we move on to just give me a minute here all right oh you got jacket too do giant I want to change up put a Mets on do that everybody turn their turn their microphones off please if you're not talking yeah um Mr Sterns um it's Mr romanic and yourself that are saying so I could rename I could remove Alan is that correct uh yes that's correct yes okay thank you for okay so um we're gonna move on we have the next um where you guys going me is everybody still with us it look like all of a sudden we're missing people you fish's here we all here M I'm chair okay it just look weird to me okay all right so um we have another application on this evening it's 11 Goan street L LC 993 Main Street block 6705 lot 22 um Miss dubiel are you um representing them yes I am good evening okay representing 11 Goan Street LLC in the matter of the application uh site plan uh approval both variances before the board the property 993 Main Avenue okay great thank you all right so uh who's giving us a review on this is that GNA be Mr deuts oh Mr de you want to go for yes Madam chair okay good all right can you give us your um give us your sum yes please on a 2500 SQ foot lot the applicant proposes to remove the existing 2 and a half story building on the site and construct a three-story building with a commercial use and one residential unit on the first floor and two residential units on both the second and third floors this proposal is within the B2 community business district and within the city's Sixth Ward is located on the east side of Main Street 50 ft south of G Avenue variances are requested for the following lot area 5,000 ft required and 2,500 ft is existing lot width 50 ft required and 25 ft is existing one side yard setback 4.17 ft is proposed and 10 ft is required required rear yard setback as a minimum of 25 ft is required and 10 ft is proposed lot coverage as a maximum coverage of 60% is permitted and 74.4 4% is proposed parking seven parking spaces are required on the property in question and zero are provided on site that is the synopsis Madam chair okay thank you Mr Deutsch okay um Miss duel yes I have two witnesses here this evening okay who would they be the first one is Michael romanic who is the engineer the second the architect I'm sorry and the second is Tom Sterns who is the engineer if need okay I also have the property owner present if there should arise a need okay um do you want to call your first witness then please yes I'd like to call Michael romanic yes hi Michael how are you just spell your last name for me R yes Michael romanic r m a n i k raise your right hand you swear the testimony about this proceeding is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth I do and we accept him as an expert witness thank you mad chair okay Mr romanic would you please explain to the board the plan that we have presented here tonight yes uh Commissioners if you please look at the architectural drawing first you'll see what we are proposing as Mr Deutsch explained briefly if you can share the monitor uh give me a second yes Commissioners you're looking at sheet number one of the set of drawings dated 4 1523 you can see from the elevation commissions on the right portion of that drawing in fact we are proposing a three-story building as Mr deuts indicated it's a three-story next use building will be residential and Commercial sorry and I think we're getting back into Focus nowers let's see there we go yes that in fact that's the building that's going to be removed it's a actually a three-level structure there's an apartment on the third floor apartment on the second floor and there is commercial space on the second that property is known as 993 Main Street and you'll see from the photograph that's the building that will be demolished Commissioners and what we are proposing in its place is the diagram below which is again the three-story building having a commercial space on the ground floor with an apartment in the back that will be a barrier-free apartment in the rear as well as the front there'll be two apartments on the second floor and two apartments on the third floor as well as you can see from the floor plans Commissioners on the left side of the sheet looking at the top diagram you'll see the third floor which is comprised of of one-bedroom unit and also a two-bedroom unit uh both those units meet the minimum floor area as far as the one-bedroom uh unit we have 648 Square ft which meets the minimum 600 squ ft minimum and there's a two bedroom unit which requires 900 square ft and as you can see we have over 1,000 square ft looking at the second floor plan Commissioners we're proposing two units there as well uh you'll see towards the front which is on the left portion of the at the floor plan that's a studio apartment which has 555 Square ft and that certainly meets the minimum of 300 Square ft there's a two-bedroom unit towards the rear which is uh typical to the third floor which also has 1,000 square ft looking at the ground floor Commissioners you'll see the left portion of that floor plan which is a commercial tenant space which is comprised of 937 Square ft and again Main Street is to the left of that you can see the double do that provide access into the commercial space behind the commercial space and at the rear of the building there's a barrier-free unit which is a one-bedroom unit which also meets the minimum requirement of six 900 square well actually 600 squ ft we are proposing 694 Square fet so what I just described were five units on the first the ground floor the second floor and third floor plus the commercial space the bottom diagram commer uh Commissioners you'll see is the the basement floor area uh which is comprised of a gross floor area of 1861 Square ft and that's essentially for Utility Equipment meters and so on so there will be no habitable space in the basement whatsoever uh as you can see from the diagram the proposed front elevation Commissioners what we want to do is have an exterior that somewhat resembles the new structure that was built recently on the corner which would have insulated metal panels uh you can see the entry uh as labeled ground floor exterior doors which lead into the commercial space and to the far left of that front facade you'll see we are proposing the exterior door which leads up to the second and third floor levels as well you'll see the signage that we are proposing it's a 3ot uh uh by 12' 6 in flat uh sign which will be illuminated that represents 13.8% sign coverage so Commissioners if you turn to sheet number two what you'll see are the elevations you can see the right side elevation and again there's a direct access into the dwelling unit on the ground floor as well as a secondary access into the commercial space the photograph on the right hand portion upper right hand portion Commissioners you'll see the uh the view of the existing building that we are proposing to demolish that's taken from uh the parking lot of also uh property where Mr nor is also a principal as well uh the rear elevation as you can see will have a stucco finish as well as the left side elevation as Mr Deutch indicated the property is located in the B2 Zone which does allow mixed residential and Commercial uses Commissioners uh we do not have the uh 5,000 s fot lot area requirement as you can see there are structures on both sides of the existing uh building which will be demolished as well as what we are proposing uh the newer building which was uh several years ago that is located on the immediate corner of Main Street in Gold Avenue as well so we think this would certainly be an addition to the neighborhood as well as keeping within the U parameters of having the streetcape comprised of uh a facade that would house a commercial as well as residential units above with regards to the lot area we do have the 5,000 squ ft the ordinance does exempt commercial uh parking spaces where those lots that are less than 5,000 square ft or lot withth is 25 Square ft so uh we do not have to provide parking as parking is not required now for the commercial space on the ground floor of the existing building uh parking is required for the residential uh units Commissioners in the form of a total of 10 parking spaces uh which is required now looking at the we are proposing as far as parking and what is required there will be actually a net increase of five uh uh parking spaces since two uh Apartments will be removed in the existing building we are proposing a total of five so there'll be a net increase in the number of dwelling units of three uh so the net increase of five parking spaces is actually required if we look at it in terms of a net uh requirement again what what pre- existing would have been required for those apartments and what we are proposing so there is an increase a net increase of five parking spaces so uh Commissioners that's exactly what we are proposing we feel that the building itself certainly is consonant to uh the residential and Commercial uh character of the neighborhood uh as well as the the bulk uh which is very similar to many of the structures along there as you can see on the left of that photograph there is a three-story structure there as well many of the buildings also are three stories with residential units on the second and third floors of many apartments that are along Main Street Corridor which is again a B2 U commercial Zone which does allow residential uses and Madam chair that's the uh the summary of what we are proposing thank you thank you are there any questions for the witness you are unmute Madame chair you're muted Madame chair you mute sorry um I would prefer that you uh call your next witness and then I'll open up to the public for questions of both Witnesses okay so your NE next witness would be uh Mr Stern yes yes would you please explain to the board the site plan that you prepared for tonight's meeting he has to be swor in first please Mr Stern please raise your right hand do you swear the testimony about to give this proceeding is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes I do thank you Mr Stern and we accept Mr Stern as an expert witness okay so you continue yep okay so I'll proceed with my uh I'm gonna share my screen um go can everyone see that yes okay so this is my site plan uh dated May 30th sorry to interrupt Mr you enlarge it's a little bit small okay uh let's see I'm gonna I'm G to blow it up uh you know let me see here is that is that getting better that's better yes okay here we go I'm going to center it okay so this is my S plan dated May 30th 2023 uh this is uh 993 Main Street Lot 22 block 6705 we are on the um easterly side of Main Street between Gould and Goan streets um you can see on my site plan here uh the highlighted uh the Shaded area is our lot in question that's lot 22 uh this lot is 25 ft wide and it's a 100 ft deep so the reason we show it in comparison to these other Lots um is that um Mr Nory this is a Mr nory's property to the left and to the right um so we are uh kind of mashing between that and then we have a uh the parking lot for Nori Market is in the back right here so our proposal as Mr manx said is to remove that existing uh three-story building that's currently um residential and we're going to and Commercial and we're going to have the one commercial unit which is handicap accessible in the front and we're going to have um one handicap accessible unit in the rear on the first level and then we're going to have two additional stories which will comprise of uh four more units so we'll have a total of five residential units and we're going to have the um One commercial unit on the first floor so the um the the position of the building as we said Mr Men said the building footprint is approximately 18861 Square fet uh the position of this building will be it'll be set on the um just slightly off the front property line we have uh8 8 inches off the front property line 67 as you see right here and on the Northerly property line we're going to be 6 in or half a foot off that Northerly the rear we have a 10-ft rear setback and then on the um on the souly side we have 3.67 which is 3 foot 8 in and on the uh on that southernly side we're going to have a concrete access walkway that'll access the doorways that were shown on Mr mantic's plan that give access to the uh to the residential unit in the rear and the uh rear of the commercial unit and again we have the front doors uh that front door on the left at this location accesses the stairwell to the second uh second and third floors and then we have our access to the commercial unit at this location um so besides that um we're going to have our um our condensing units in the rear of the property in that 10t setback uh they're located here and then we do have a uh a small it'll be a small grass area that'll be uh for the residents it's a small area but that's what we're providing in the back um and also um so as we said uh I'll just go through the zoning real quick de and Mr ranic went through so we're a uh 2500 foot lot where 5,000 square fet is required this is the B2 uh community business district lot width 25 feet is provided uh 50 is required front yard a zero is required here we're at the 8 inch setback on this sidey yard zero or 10 were half a foot uh other side zero or 10 were at 3.67 rear yard 25 ft is required where variance at 10 ft Building height 40 ft required we comply with 33 ft number of stories three stories we comply with um the loot coverage 60% is required we're asking for a variance we're at 74% here um and parking uh obviously Mr dor said uh based on the U there's no residential requirement for the um I mean no commercial requirement but we have the five residential units which will give us 10 parking space required and we're proposing none but um we do have a uh so this property since it's it's um owned by Mr Nory currently it will have access to the rear parking area in the evening so Mr nory's Market operates uh from 9: to 7:30 p.m. and after that the parking spaces in the rear will be available for this unit for these units of this building um that's uh I think that's essentially it thank you Mr Sterns sure so your testimony indicates that the applicant owns the property to the left and to the right of the subject property and to the rear the that's what I was going to say and also the parking lot that's depicted at the rear is all all belongs to the applicant that is correct yes and what we're saying is that um although we are not providing parking spots for this particular devopment that parking lot is available to the tenants of that property um in the front and that during the evening hours parking spaces become more readily available that is correct yeah and that'll be deed into the units yes so there's no addition parking that's correct are there any questions for any of the witnesses Madam chair you're muted open it up to the public first sorry um so at this time okay if anyone has any questions of either witness Mr ranic or Mr Stern now would be the time to call in I'll allow three minutes for questions Madam chair can you repeat the steps to call in please yes we can call in at 973 321 1579 the meeting ID is 8326 you can press um you can press uh star one to listen to the meeting but press star three to be added to the queue for questions let me know I don't know if you want to open the comment section now I will at the same time since there are no callers there probably won't be any from the uh public but I will ask if anyone has any comments to make regarding this application from the public okay again you can call in and you dial 1 1973 3211 1579 and you can press star three to be added to the CU anything waiting okay no callers Madam chair okay thank you I'm going to CL make a motion to close the public portion does anyone want a second uh Comm yeah commissioner Roman second all in favor I I all right now I'm GNA open it up to the Commissioners Commissioners questions of either Mr uh romanic or Mr Stern I have Amar go ahead ahead okay so I was hearing that the parking is I'm sorry oh I was hearing that the parking space is going to be shared with Ali parking lot but I believe that parking spot is shared with the building in the corner also the medical um the medical building in the corner of Main Street is that right uh that is that is correct yes okay so is there enough parking available for Alis and the building in the corner that it's a big you know it has a pharmacy a medical plaza and I'm not sure if it has apartments or not I'm not familiar no that building doesn't have any Apartments but U it was that was previously approved that building with that parking lot oh no I know that but being that it's sharing and it wasn't mentioned in the in in the meeting sh that will be included but those most of those uh commercial businesses will be closed at night as well yeah yeah I know that's why I wanted to ask if there is any apartments in that building because I'm not familiar okay thank you right that's correct there are none um another question was I didn't hear anyone mentioning anything about the garbage or the recycling where we going to put it or maybe I I I didn't hear give me one second already a recycling area in the parking lot I'm sorry they're gonna be sharing that with the store as well yes okay it's big enough also I just wanted to make note that that Medical Center closes at 5 o' yesly anything else commissioner marah no okay Commissioners commissioner questions commissioner Fischer yes uh question um in the back is there any uh back exit because I saw on the previous they had a um what do you call like a deck that go down that goes all the way down is is there any kind kind of a uh back exit I saw that too yeah so what we're going to if I may mam chair so what we're going to do is there is a little we we showed a little walkway to the rear and uh we will have a gate there'll be a fence along the property line on this and there will be a gate to that rear property for access to it but I think I think commissioner fer correct me if I'm wrong commissioner Fisher I think he's asking he saw it and I saw it too on the back deck of your your the property right now you could see like there's stairs back there to come out God forbid somebody has to come out of there real quick there he's asking is there any way am I correct commissioner Fisher is that what you're looking for you're definitely correct that's what I'm asking yeah okay yes so commissioner uh the building will be fully sprinklered and there will be a fire alarm system and based on that um a second means of eress is not required by code so we we do have the front uh access only it's not required no no I I understand that it's not by the code I'm saying uh you having a sprinkler system that's all well and good but uh uh usually uh there's either windows that push out or there's uh a back exit or somewhere so they can get uh out in case of a fire well they have uh emergency escape Windows there will be so those are this the same windows that push out yes commissioner okay thank you thank you Commissioners I got a question yes commissioner claudo okay I see you have a a handicap entry in the front and one in the rear are there going to be any handicap sign in the back for parking we turn had indicated that there will be there will be a handicap parking space uh in the back as a matter of fact it's shown on the site plan uh Tom yes so um we do have uh so actually right near this property which is right adjacent to the medical building there are two handicap spaces at that location all right thank you sure um I have I have a question yes commissioner Roman go ahead please um I'm just trying to I guess visualize or or the parking lot that we keep mentioning in the back um just help me understand if I if I did you know food shopping and I park in the back do I have to walk around like how far is there a gate that'll let me into that little cement Alleyway that we spoke about so we are going to we are going to provide a gate as I said we'll have a fence along the rear of the the rear property line of this lot and then we are going to have a gate which will be able to access the uh that Nori parking lot okay so that gate I did hear you mention the gate I wasn't sure sure so the gate leads into that parking lot in the back that is correct you have you have parking directly behind the building actually in the parking area that is which is probably about 15 to 20 feet away and Mr if I can just clarify we are proposing a walkway from the front uh main AV Main Street side to the back between this yes that is correct and the property next door and there is also another walkway um between uh supermarket and the adjacent Lots so both those walkways lead to the back uh parking area that is correct so if somebody was on the front they' have that access uh by the supermarket and on our property as well thank you um another qu is there is there a a unit behind the business now a un I'm sorry could you repeat that is there a um an apartment behind the business now I no there isn't I believe there is not no there's not an apartment now behind the uh the commercial use okay thank I have a question what is the square footage of I guess that would be apartment let me just get my thoughts here my the the square footage of apartment on the Main Street the one uh that says the the living room dining room bedroom bedroom there's the two-bedroom apartment yes well the the second floor and third floor they contain two bedroom apartments and each one has 1,5 Square ft uh which meets the minimum on the two bedroom on the two bedroom for a two-bedroom yes yeah it's labeled there as such you look to the summary on the right of each floor plan commissioner you'll see in fact what the square footage is of each of the apartments okay so the two two bedroom is a thousand okay so here's my question because I'm conf so then to me I'm looking at the studio apartment and then I'm looking at the two-bedroom the studio apartment says 555 Square ft okay but the two-bedroom unit is a th the, 5,000 1,5 square feet but yet when I'm looking on your drawings they look the same size to me well on the second floor you'll see in the front there you have a Stairway you have a hallway you have actually two hallways we could shoot so that's uh we can look at the second floor plane if can I share my screen yes please yes so again looking at the second floor plane we'll come to that soon okay um the second floor plan in the front where the studio is you'll see there's actually a hallway and a Stairway and another hallway so all that is subra from the area so it's not quite equivalent as you can see it's much less because of the stairway and hallway providing access to the third floor and there's also a private uh hway that leads to the unit in the rear so that gets deducted from roughly the th000 square ft and that's why you have about 550 square feet all right all right because I was just saying to myself why why are we cramming two bedrooms into that small area but I do see that you have a I see what you're saying you only looks like one stairway the other one looks like two they both have the hallway and they both have the stairway but I do see the second stairway area so I could see that that would be taken up a lot of the space it just looked weird to me yeah it's providing the access with proper alwayss right okay okay so um all right any other questions by the Commissioners yes I got commissioner Hassan yes so I mean what type of business we have right now at the bottom floor like and do we and what type of business we are planning to do there currently a wireless um mobile business telephone cell phone business and proposed do we have any ideas he's coming back he's coming back so it will be the same okay okay good and well just wondering I know I'm familiar with the Nori supermarket in the back um I know after evening hour We're going to have enough spaces for parking I I mean is it okay I mean do you think if we can provide maybe few parking there again it's just I'm just throwing out there it's not you don't have to I mean do you think is it possible like you know after evening hour is fine there is no customer right but the the problem is during the day there would be a lot of you know three bedroomroom apartment two-bedroom apartment it will be few cars we know that definitely right so I'm just wondering is it possible maybe Field parking dedicated to those apartment again it's just I'm just you know throwing out there the possibility if you can it's fine that would be great I mean if not is Mr Mr Stern yeah uh yes uh so um I I don't think that's up to me I don't know if it's up yeah I'm maybe I'm I'm asking to the is the applicant is the the applicant is available applicant is here yes okay good can we swear the applicant in then please hello Mr Nory yes ladies and gentlemen yes hi please state your name for the record my name is Albert norri uh is the owner or member of uh 11 cion Street LLC raise you right answer do you swear the testimony about to give this proceeding is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes I do thank Youk thank you so so the question out there is do you think that there's any possibility that you can supply just a few spaces during the day for anyone in your in your uh in your complex here here yes yes we could uh we could have some uh parking with the name for uh the tenant who going to be there like uh a few parking extra but there is always a space like always we have 75 80% of parking uh you know full Never full 100% because the people really on weekend the medical scho the medical building is closed the parking during the week is not that busy because the the part the shopping is not much during the week but uh most people come shopping during the weekend so there is always 20% % the parking lot is empty so we do have uh we could Supply uh a few parking for the tenant that would be awesome that's great that would be great yeah so that's what I was I I was looking if you can do that would be great so okay thank you so much you have commissioner anyone else have any questions and Mr yes commissioner Lano um I was looking at the plans I is five apartment of far Studios that we seeing in there cor there's one studio and it looks like the one in in the first floor is in a studio it's a romantic will he had a store he had a store in the front and in the back it says Studio yes want to go to the video share screen um the one in the back does not say studio and what is that in the back the one in the back is a is a two-bedroom yeah Studio or or an apartment one bed that's an apartment not a studio it's a one bedroom in the back one bedroom in the back of the commercial I see two so in the second in the second is two apartments too cor right in the back one in the front one in the back corre correct one studio and then one two-bedroom apartment in the back and then the third floor is one in the front and one in the back also yes correct so it's fire apartment yes correct on the store yes okay the store so basically um you may need more parking space for that well the original building like Mr romanic said uh we have the second floor have three bedroom and the third floor have two bedroom so the existing we're not increasing much from the existing the existing have a three bedroom and two bedroom and that that was previously right now you change the whole scenario you're making officially five apartments and a storefront right yes I let Mr Roman explain how we have existing and we're only increasing by probably two bedroom from the existing if could explain we'll have Mr we'll have Mr ranic please explain it yes the existing structure has two apartments in a commercial space we are proposing five uh apartments in a commercial Apartments yes additional there's a net increase uh of three apartments right that's what I mentioned about the parking we actually uh if you look at the net uh increase in parking it's five spaces even though we're required 10 spaces but we do have to look at what was previously existing that's how I feel anyway yeah no but when when you change it everything changes right somebody saying right now you are you are in a lot of space for people to leave there more than the commercial because before you had something different now you have a new structure and it's going to be totally different than one you have before but I can mention that I believe I believe you need more space to park in the back so commissioner if you don't if I may so the uh the prior owner had um no parking he he didn't have access to the Nori parking lot in the rear so he had no provided it was different it was different rule when they build that that no I understand that and now but now where you are providing parking in the rear after hours after 5:00 P p.m. we said those um the medical building will be closed so all those parking spaces will be freed up and they'll have the availability to park in the rear and and also parking not required for the commercial space no for the commercial but you have residential there too yes sir it's a misuse it's a misuse but it's more residential than commercial am I right so we have that parking lot of 40 of 43 spaces right behind us and then there was additional eight spaces um on on Goin Street in that parking lot also so that's available now for for our after after my concern is if the tenants are going to use those parking space in the back yes they will and I I think Mr nor said he would even have some spaces designated for the residential parking that could be possibly by means of a sign or something designated specifically for those apartments because as I know always is a problem with parking in that area there so I want to make sure that the tenants don't have problem when they get in the afternoon to the house and they don't even find a parking space if I may Mr Nur has testified that the parking lot is Never full um there are is a lot of pedestrian traffic from the neighborhood and um he's never had an issue with parking currently and that it's 70% full at most so in summary I I heard Mr Nori say that he would Supply us some extra spots for the tenants he may not supply and designate 10 of them but he can can you designate at least five parking spaces during the set during the day and at night you know have it's going to be open Can You designate five and say parking for tenants only somewhere yes we can put aside on those designated parking yes okay well that's a big that's a big help M yes if we are saying that but I would like to put that at condition that we're GNA yeah we're gonna put it as a condition of course of course of course uh Commissioners other Commissioners I got a question I have a question yes commissioner claudo question there's is not going to be no ebik permitted in this building am I correct ebikes ebike are the electric bites we don't want any electric bites anywhere near that building we put down the conditioners we can put it on the condition there shouldn't be any in the back lot either because truthfully on the property because we all know what ebikes can cause I know yes than okay course Commissioners okay I think I'm sorry madam chair yes we're just missing the lighting and the cameras I'm pretty sure uh Mr NY will have that covered but we just want to make sure that it's it's um yes I want to bring that up okay so Mr Nori we're gonna ask you we're asking you if you could possibly Supply at least one video camera okay on the back lot maybe one on the front so that it could be connected to Patterson Police Department okay number one and number two just some lighting not that it's going to interfere with anybody's Apartments but just put some lighting so everybody feels safe going in and out of the parking lots stuff we lighting we do have a lot of lighting service and from myself okay I appreciate that thank you that would be a condition also okay anyone else Madam chair just to point out there are lighting fixtures already on the front that are is built into the plan are there additional lights and I believe there's going to oh where wait hold on I didn't see the ones in the front maybe I yeah they're two little squares um either side of the sign and you know what can somebody pull up the plans and show me where that is please oh on either side of the uh wait we just had it on either side of the sign yes and I okay I see it yeah that you know that that would be enough you you don't want them too bright because you don't want them in somebody's window you know one of the tenants but we do need some nice lighting there decorative lighting and then also Mr Nori already testified that he has plenty of lighting in the back but as long as we know we're going to put it on the record that's what we want I also understand that there will be Lighting in that Corridor leading from the front of the building to the back good good because we would need that as well awesome all right anybody else you can take the plans at anybody else commissioners okay so that being said then I'm going to ask uh Miss duia would you like to uh summarize please yes so this uh this proposal is an an addition a great addition to that neighborhood um aesthetically matches up with the other buildings that Mr norly nurri has developed on that street and it also shows a commitment of Mr Nory to Patterson to improve it to add you know uh beautification and his money his dollars and therefore having these five HRA Apartments also adds and benefits the Patterson residents nearby it is a Vibrant Community and it draws people from all over the tri state area this is a very well-known Community for inclusiveness and you know so far that he has added two handicap Apartments I've not seen that in many um plans that I have presented um it's on Main Main Street public transportation is easy to get to we have filed an application to the county by the way um that is pending and um it's surrounded by restaurants and beautiful cultural events that draws people from all over um it's something that we really should be proud of and I believe that Mr Nory really stands for the best that Patterson has to offer so for that those reasons I request humbly that you consider granting Mr Nordy his application thank you very much okay would any commissioner like to make a motion on this application yeah I can make a motion for yes commissioner H Madam chair do you want me to read the conditions on the record for Mr aquaviva he has requested that I do so yes yes you can okay so we have uh four conditions uh designate five uh parking spaces for the residential unit no ebikes on the properties uh Supply video camera on the front and back of the property and sufficient Lighting on the property yeah sufficient lighting also and I and I believe Miss dubiel mentioned it but just for the record in that in that little Alleyway okay leading to the back we that should well that should be lit as well okay alleway okay okay so commissioner son you're going to make the motion yes I'd like to make a motion for approval excuse me the applicant 11 Goan Street LLC 999 Main Street Patterson New Jersey 075023 property 993 Main Street block 6705 lot 22 I'm requesting the board attorney to prepare resolution for approval by by reviewing the site plan approval by ban says city engineer HP Soil Conservation District P County planning board okay with the condition that mentioned by m Madam Secretary yes Madam secret second who was that I did who was it or Roman R the record has Roman they're saying Roman it's okay congratulations Roman you got it okay all right so R please commissioner Hassan yes commissioner claudo yes commissioner fiser yes commissioner Hussein yes commissioner Leo yes commissioner Roman yes commissioner Mar ah yes all the suspense Madam chair North there's no suspense yes okay I want to congratulate M Mr Nory because I know he does a phenomenal job over there and it's South Patterson is looking beautiful and I applaud you for that thank you of you thank you congratulations conratulations night congratulations thank you now board members have a good night everyone but board members okay okay I'm gonna askk you have a good night you don't leave yet we're not done we're not ready that's why I'm talk you guys can leave missel and your client but talking to him romantic Mr Stern you guys can go all right do uh we have other business in terms we have resolutions no what no we didn't get a chance to with all the you know oh okay well understood all right any any any other business yeah I returned the email for everybody today thank you did you get did you get the email from everyone yes I did I the only one that was missing was lorono I gonna attend the meeting by myself no you're not S no you're not can we get a motion to we're gonna motion to but stay but I want everybody still to stay on make a motion to return the email yes exactly I did check the email please check the email I need a motion to adjourn this meeting moot I did better right M Madam Secretary okay so just hold on one second because we were still live yeah let's wait get off let's wait till we get off live will you get off take the email I will just uh uh stay uh quiet for a minute please I got it so is is Mr aquaviva still on