Good evening. Welcome to the June 10th, 2025 meeting of the Pakonic Township Council this March. >> Sorry. In accordance with the requirements of New Jerseys open public meetings act, notice that this meeting was included in the annual meeting notice which was filed in the office of the township clerk, posted on the
bulletin board in the municipal building, published as a legal notice in the suburban trends and daily record newspapers, and distributed to all persons requesting notice in accordance with township policy. Please join me in the pledge of allegiance and follow my prayer in a moment of thanks for individuals serving our nation. I
allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Most gracious providence, we ask that you bless this governing body with an
abundance of wisdom and understanding so that every deliberation will result in actions which will promote the common good and the general welfare for all of the people of the Quanic Township. Amen. >> Amen. >> Amen.
>> Clark, please call the role. >> Mrs. Florence Lynch, >> here. Mr. Cole, >> here. >> Mrs. Russell, >> here. Mr. Syracus, >> here. Mayor Tracy, >> I am here. Uh, moving on with the agenda, there is no presentation scheduled for this evening. Item number six, reports from volunteers. At this time, are there any
reports or comments from any of the volunteers serving our community? Yes. Good evening. Good evening. Welcome. >> Welcome. Thank you. Thank you. I'm Randy Shamber. Uh, and I'm here reporting on behalf of Propel for Quanic. I'm the
social equity director for that organ to volunteer organization in town. So, I'm here to report on our pride festival which happened uh on Sunday uh because it originally was scheduled for Saturday uh for the rain day uh was Sunday. Um and we had a beautiful day of kindness
just like we had planned. I'd like to thank uh Melissa for being there and reading the pride proclamation and Dave for coming because the day switched you were able to come. So, thank you so much for attending. Um there's a lot of people to thank to have a a day like this come together. Um and it of course
does start with with the town council and the leaders of our community that support this type of event that means so much to so many people. Um you know the unfortunate thing was because it was a rain day uh about half our vendors showed up. It's just what would happen
with any time you change a date at a last minute. Um, but the people that were there all reported that it was just actually what it was meant to be, a beautiful day of kindness. And even the vendors, some of them reported it was their best event ever. Fewer vendors,
that meant there was more money to spend with fewer people to spend it with. So, uh, that was a positive that came out of it. Um, I wanted to again, uh, thank our sponsors for this event cuz without them, it could not happen. Um, and
that's Birch Tree Psychology, Rita Ice, Christina by Design, uh, Pquinic Township Town Coun, uh, Ponic Township Chamber of Commerce, TD Bank, Atlantic Health, uh, Shamrock School of Music had music all day long on stage and
Scandlins was our title sponsor. So, uh, I wanted to thank them again and give them recognition in the meeting today. I also want to thank the uh township uh departments that were involved, parks and wreck, um DPW,
um our uh first aid squad was there all day volunteering. Um and uh thank you again for authorizing the police to be there. I think that worked very well. We had absolutely no issues and believe it or not, it was the first year we had
absolutely no issues. So, I don't know if somebody would have walked up to the event and they saw the police officer and decided to turn around, but we had no issues. Issues in the past were not major, but there was uh a few issues in previous uh events. So, thank you for
doing that. It made everyone comfortable um and feel like it was a safe space. Um, I also want to uh thank um you know uh everybody that helped put the event together and really it's the the
officers from Propel uh that would be Paul Maylor, Sharon Ramala, uh Allison Sana and Sally Basile who all put this event together again without them it really cannot be done. Uh during the day we had some speeches. Actually we had an
invitation from um Dave Sipple, Pastor Dave Sipple from First Reformed Church. Um and we also were able to give out a couple of scholarships which is what we do with this event. We raise money so we can give back to the community. Um one
scholarship uh I think I mentioned it when I was here describing the event um it was um essays that our graduating seniors wrote. We received about 60 essays that described how they spread kindness within our community and it's
very uplifting to read all of those essays, but we had to pick one and uh that was one by uh Tiffany Zapolic. Um she won uh the uh scholarship for having the most impressive essay. There were a
lot of them and we actually had a split decision on it. So, um, and then the other scholarship, which is our diversity, equity, and inclusion scholarship for a graduating senior, and that was, uh, run by Finn Guerrero. And,
um, what I'd like to do is uh, have them come on up and read uh, the uh, pride proclamation uh, so that it can be read into the record here at the meeting. So, Finn, if you'd like to come on up. This is necessary. [Music]
Whereas the mayor and council of Pquanic Township, New Jersey, welcomes and encourages diversity and inclusion within our community. And whereas by protecting the rights of every individual, we enhance and strengthen the value of everyone throughout our entire society. And whereas celebrating
Pride Month raises awareness and provides support and advocacy for the LGBTQ plus community and is an opportunity to become educated, engage in dialogue, strengthen alliances and build understanding. And whereas while there has been remarkable progress
towards acceptance and equality, members of the LGBTQ plus community continue to face discrimination and tolerance uh and intolerance. And whereas we must commit to supporting and accepting LGBTQ plus indivi individuals in particular our
youth who are who compared to their peers are far more likely to experience violence and bullying at school. Whereas we affirm and our support for LGBTQ plus residents in our community and stand with them to protect their civil rights and their ability to live openly,
equally, and without fear. Now therefore, be it proclaimed that the month of June is recognized as Pride Month, and all residents are urged to celebrate and build a culture of inclusiveness and acceptance during this month and every month as a welcoming sign to all. And I would like to thank
Melissa Florence Lynch, David G. Cole, Kyle Russell, and Vincent Sarakusa for signing this. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Vince. So I I don't know if uh the report section is different from the comments section. If you guys have any questions about the Pride Festival
or anything or is that a different part and you would ask questions later? >> Well, the comment section is later. This is like report from from >> That's what I'm asking. If you have any questions about it, you'd like to ask me. >> Does anybody have any questions? No. >> No. It was a great day. It was a beautiful day.
>> Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Any other reports from volunteers serving the community? Seeing none, we are going to move on to the public comment section. The next item on the agenda is public comments. This comment period will be limited to a
total of 30 minutes. Additional time is reserved later in the meeting. We welcome comment, suggestions, and questions during the comment period. However, the purpose of this is to allow public comment, not to engage in dialogue. If you have a specific question, please feel free to pose it and then follow up with staff via
telephone or email. Comments are limited to 3 minutes. Please, if anyone wishes to address the council, please wait to be recognized to come to the microphone and provide your name for the record. I think before we before we start, I'm just going to ask Mr. Mr. Osteike just to mention a comment about the 60 sunset
thing because I know a lot of people are here. Sure, Mayor. Thank you. Whenever there's a matter in litigation, we're always very careful here at the council how we how we speak about that matter publicly. We all know these these meetings are recorded. These meetings are taped. These meetings can be any
information exchanged in this meeting can be used in that litigation for whatever purpose it turns out to be. So we are going to be very careful up here about not making comments, not discussing matters of litigation. We can listen. We urge anybody from the public
to have the same just keep that same thing in mind. Anything you say is recorded here. We do not want to do anything that's going to harm the township's ultimate position. um including putting ourselves out there and having words that we say twisted around for another purpose was done very
carefully at the last meeting which I appreciated but um we want to be very careful about that. The more people we have the more that happens the more likely it is something gets said that gets twisted or turned. So the less the better. We understand your appearance here tell gives us a message in and of
itself but comments are free. Just please understand why we up here are not likely to respond to those comments. And with that, mayor, I turn it back over to you. >> Thank you. Thank you. We're going to try to limit it to three minutes tonight because there's a lot of people here want to get, you know, whoever wants to say something. We want to be able to
have an opportunity. So, good evening, Mayor Tracy, ladies and gentlemen of the of the council, George S, 37 Green View Drive. Mr. Thank you for those very necessary, clear instructions and for sharing it in a appropriate way, not a scolding way.
Okay. Um uh I understand the seriousness of this situation. Um I am here just to ask this governing body to please consider uh engaging outside counsel to review this situation. Um I would imagine by now that there's been
communications with the insurance company. There may or may not have been communications with an insurance company provided attorney. As we all know both up on the deis and behind me, insurance companies much prefer to settle. Uh sometimes throwing in a limits of their
policy, sometimes aortioning it. Uh but I would I would seriously and strongly consider and ask that you look into the possibility of engaging outside counsel. Um if you don't, I think it's a mistake. I think uh this governing body owes this to the residents and frankly to the
zoning board who work so hard uh before reaching their decision. um it would delegitimize their decision and their hard work by doing anything other than at least getting an outside opinion, a disinterested third party, not someone
who's got a a stake in, you know, keeping uh the purse closed. Uh so I don't want to go on and on repeating the same thing. Um I would I do fully understand that matters of litigation and frankly even matters of potential litigation can and should be addressed
in close session. you can deem any matter a matter of potential litigation within reason. Um I would also ask that if and when possible the town come up with some type of updates uh that can be shared with the public properly vetted of course you know by by by the legal uh
people because this is a very tough one to be kept in close session without people understanding you know maybe what's going on. So I know it's a very slippery slope Mr. Psych and and uh you know Mr. reneur as the town manager, but but really seeking an outside opinion, I think, would serve everyone well in
terms of what we stand to lose or what we might be able to potentially gain by having a fresh set of eyes to take a look at this. So, thank you. Thank you. Next. Yes. >> Hello, Sandy Lort for Peter Place. Good
evening, council members. I want to take a moment to s sincerely thank you and our township staff for your support of the recent pridefest held in Puquanic Propel Paul Mer Randy Shamber and crew have created an event that is not only
wellorganized, fun and joyful, it is more importantly respectful and inclusive. It's welcoming of residents, families and visitors alike. Events like Pridefest speak volumes about the values of our community. They remind us that
the Quanic is a place where diversity is not only acknowledged, but celebrated with dignity and openness. This kind of inclusivity is not about any single group or cause. It's about creating a community where everyone feels safe,
seen, and respected. That is a strength that characterizes us as a community. a strength which we will continue to foster and embrace confidently. Thank you again for supporting opportunities like this that reflect the best of who
we are as a township. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Come on up. >> Hi. Uh Patty Horsting, 15 William Street. I have um two. One, I know last year I asked about if we can get an
evaluation for West Franklin because right now cars are parking on both sides and Sundays particular it's hard because it turns into a oneway one road and if you're coming from the turnpike and you're trying to get onto the going down the road west to boulevard the amount of
accidents that almost happened because of the cars being blocked on both sides. You have the two corner houses that cars park right before the stop signs which is legal and it is legal to park on both sides but because that church takes up and again I know it's primarily on
Sundays but we really should see if we can maybe limit on West Franklin that only one side of the street should be available for parking. So there's no issues with cars, you know, trying to juggle trying to get down that on Sundays.
That's issue number one. And number two, um I kind of support George as an attorney myself. I understand the the impact of litigation. I was also very involved in in attending the 60 sunset. And I would just like to remind the town that it's our taxpayers money that pays
the insurance fees that we have and that we really should be trying to um stand behind the zoning board because they did take a lot of time and effort. even the residents put time and effort into helping the town see see things in different light. So I would just
strongly suggest we do hire outside council to take a different approach and and stand behind the zoning board's decision. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else? Yes,
Jeff first and then Mr. B. Good. Uh Jeff Sbert, 20 LX Road. Um last meeting where I was here, um Mr. Brew, I I didn't realize until after the fact. He says he was informed that there
was plenty of room for the kids to play. I think you should I think you need a new informant because there's no room. Um it's making you look bad cuz you didn't go look yourself. But besides that, um, the other thing, it seemed
like after that meeting when we were trying to kind of put it on, I thought it was kind of being put on hold and I tried to get it put on hold. The next day after the meeting, the mulch was delivered. So, it was hurried up and then that weekend the Eagle Scouts came
and they hurried up. So, all that trying to put a hold and talk about it. Obviously, none of this wouldn't be discussion. If the residents in the area were told from the beginning that this was happening, we wouldn't be wasting time and money on this dog park that
took over the whole kids playground. Um, besides that, as far as I know, it was the Eagle Scouts was, you know, getting the money for it. And from what I found out, no. I talked to the Eagle Scout
lady, which she apologized for putting the dog park there. She said it had nothing to do with her. She said that uh they they mentioned other areas possibly and this is where they where they put it. So, she apologized for being there cuz she I wouldn't want for my house
either. Um and uh I don't know. So, I talked to some guy. I went to Foothills. I don't know if anybody mentioned that Foothills doesn't get water anymore. So, I don't even know why we're moving the dog park. It was fine over there. I was talking to
somebody at Foothills and the guy said, "Oh, there hasn't been any water over here for a while." I said, "I found out they fixed the problem." They found out what the problem was. They fixed it. So, I went there a couple weeks ago when we had all the water and rain overnight.
Um, our rivers were up to action stage cuz I watched that time in the flood zone. And I went there the next day, nothing. I went there the next day after that after the river is going down. Nothing. I went there today, nothing. With all this rain we're having now,
we're wasting all the money to put it in a different area that's tight already when you find where it is. And I did talk to somebody that was there at the time. This is a kind of a funny story. Talking to him, "Yeah, I like it over here." He says he went to the Lyman Park
one. He says, "But I felt like I was in somebody's backyard." I said, "Yeah, you were in my front yard." And I was talking to him. I He says, "Yeah, I like it over here." And you know, um, you know, the the dog likes it here. There's a nice breeze and there's there
hasn't been any water. I said, "Can you come to the town meeting and talk about it?" Oh, I don't live in town. Oh, so now how are we regulating the people going in and out of the dog park? When we we said that last meeting, there is
no regulation of people watching. He says, "Oh yeah, there's a lady that comes by and lets 10 dogs out of her car. She's a dog sitter and she uses the park." That's also one of the regulations. There's there's no regulating. I don't I don't understand how uh they talk about they would regulate
this. Um, and besides that, and now that the mulch was dropped there, they hurried up and put it in just they put it on the 31st they were done or the first they were done. You know where the mulch is? They hurried up to put it
there, right? Still there today. That's a week and a half the most piles been sitting there huge. Girls were trying to play basketball in front of the most pile today. I literally saw it today. I was I was surprised. But um
uh what else did I have here? >> Yeah, just finish off. >> Yeah, but just go ahead. >> No, that's it. I mean, I'm just repeating myself. I mean, that it should have been done. It shouldn't have been talked about it. I mean, it and it was no Eagle Scout thing that count did most
of the work and paid most of the money for the fencing. I the Eagle Scouts were there for two half two couple hours for two days. I watched them. I was there. I talked to them. She offered me a bangle and everything else, you know. She felt sorry. And uh I'm just worried about if
I don't plan on moving, but I'm worried about if I maybe my house isn't going to depreciate, but if I do go to sell it, let's be honest. Would you buy a house in front of a dog park? >> If I liked it enough. What do you think? >> Huh? >> If I liked it enough, I would.
>> All right. All right. Let's let's just let's finish up. You can come back later if you want, but thank you. Thank you. >> Anybody else? Yes. Come on up. >> Hi everyone. I'm Judy Simon at 61 Roosevelt Street. I'm here in regard to Lyman Park and the
dog park that was just put in. To start, I think it's important for you all to know that I'm a mom of three young children and love dogs and have two rescues right now at home. The residents of Lemon Park love their park and have been keeping it safe and clean for decades. I love the park so
much for my children. I have picked up used condoms, rebar, grass fragments, bottles, cigarettes, other pieces of garbage, and construction material from when the park was used as a staging area to lift the houses.
When the construction company left the area after leaving the houses, it was left in awful condition. There were divots that were over 8 in deep and the grass was gone. I alerted the town to the mess and stayed on top of the issue for months. I pushed that we could have
our park back to being usable again. The people in the area we report when the trees are in bad shape, when the limbs have fallen, when we have to push to get the trimmings taken away after they've been sitting there for weeks. The residents of that area are why that
section of the park looks so good when the town came and chose it for the dog park. While the town owns the property in name, the residents are the ones who have been stewards of it. I was advised that the children could play in the other areas of the park. One area of the
park slopes down into a creek and stream marsh area. The other area that was suggested is in the corner of the dog park and the park. This area has roots coming up out of the ground, has very little grass. There are
deep holes, glass pieces. This is where the tree limbs fall and is right next to the parking lot. The safest area of the park has been taken away from our children and given to the dogs. The area of the playground that should be mulched and have a border border
which is behind the swings which it did have for many years but has been left to decay is only 11 ft away from the dog park fence. I have looked at five towns that also have dog parks and playgrounds in the same area. All are in much bigger complexes are not
in fully residentially zoned areas. Only one had a dog park next to the playground, and that one had a much farther distance between the dog park and the playground, and in between were mature trees. All the other ones I
looked at were separated by a large parking lots and were on separate sides of the complex. The dog park license requires users to sign a waiver to use a dog park. The waiver seeds that the town cannot control what dogs use the park. It says
that they may be aggressive dogs and dogs that bite within this waiver. The waiver also sees that dogs can go under and over the fence and the users use it at their own risk. These things are so worrisome to the town that any users have to relinquish
their rights. Yet, the town and some members of this council believe it is safe to put a dog park 11 ft away from a playground when the town in black and white has stated that there is a chance for aggressive dogs, dogs that bite to go under or over the fence.
I ask that the council members in the town put any special interest that they may have to the side and do what's right for the residents and the area. Please stop this dog park from opening. If you don't, you will have chosen dogs over the children and families of this area.
We're relying on you to uphold our children's safety and the standards of our family-friendly community. And last piece, I want to mention that I just found out today. So far, that fence has cost the town close to $20,000.
Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Yes. Oh, sorry, Paul. You you you were supposed to be next. Sorry. >> That's okay. >> Good evening, Carl Miller. I'm here as the uh very proud president of Propel
Proic uh to offer my thanks to all of you, to Mr. Brewer, and to all of the departments that uh we deal with to put an event like that together. Uh let me start with patrolman Nick Malfado. Uh Nick was there all day uh on Sunday. He
was remarkably courteous and professional helping vendors. He was all over. Did a great job. So we appreciate him. The first aid and rescue squad was there as they always are with the crew and with their equipment. They're always it's always great to see them. Um and also want to offer a special thanks to
the people who run parks and wreck, the health department, fire safety, DPW. The guys at DPW have me laughing all the time putting up the the the stage. They all of them are remarkably professional. They're cooperative. They go out of
their way to help. Uh even when there's a problem, they they they will find a way to work it out. So, I'm here tonight to simply thank you and them. Uh they do a great job and we very much appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you.
>> Next. Yes. Come on up. >> Hi, Stacy Taylor, West Franklin Avenue. I do agree with you over there. I do live on that street and it is becoming a hazard for our children's um parked on both sides. People just
randomly walking around. Uh it's one lane you have to get through. Children on their bikes, they can't get through. Even you get on the sidewalk, it just all becomes crowded. It's somebody needs to go out there and look at what's going
on every Sunday. At least put a police officer there. I mean, it's really getting quite horrendous. The next one for me, if you don't mind, is 60 Sunset. I'm one of those mothers who got that phone call when her child got her driver's license. Somebody didn't stop
at the stop sign. Made the lefthand turn while my daughter was going straight on sunset. Guess what? It wasn't pretty. Nobody wants that phone call, right? Stand by the zoning board. And number three, my daughter is part of the pride
community. I love that as a town we support our children. So, thank you. >> Thank you. Anybody else public comment? [Music]
>> Yes. Come on up. >> Ela Varela, 16 William Street. This is short and sweet. I just want to say I do support the zoning board and their decisions and I hope we stick with them. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. Anyone else for public comment?
>> Yes. Oh, hiding in the corner. Come on up behind the post here. Right there. >> Uh my name is Denise Gall. I live on Jackson Avenue. Uh this is my first uh council meeting in a long time, but I've been following online what goes on in
town. 60 Sunset. Um I don't live down that way. I don't have kids in the township, but I care about what goes on in this town. And I would just like I like that. um you're currently supporting the zoning board and I would
encourage that to continue and also yay pridefest. I think it's a wonderful thing. So just wonderful. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Anybody else? Public comment. Yes. Come on up [Music]
38. [Music] Um why I understand and appreciate uh the important of designated space for dogs. Um the dog park next to the child
uh playground. Um again I'm going to say this for my third time is not safe. You got the playground they have a label saying no dogs allowed 11 ft away then you have a dog park. It doesn't make
sense. Um so please take that into consideration. Um we live there and we will not notice that this was putting together. Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else?
Right. Seeing none, we're going to close the public comment section. Um Mr. Brewer, do we want to talk about West Franklin? I know we talked about it last year. I know the the town took a look at at the engineers's office. Uh yes, mayor. The after the concern was
expressed previously in the engineering department and the police department went out and you uh reviewed it especially on Sunday cuz that was one of the principal areas of concern. Uh there were suggestions or recommendations made back should the council want to limit parking on one side or the other. Ultimately, the decision was made as a
result of trimming back significant amount of the shrubs not to take any legislative action at that time and continue to evaluate moving forward based upon the concerns that have been expressed today. I think it'd be wise to revisit that, have the staff go back out and take a look to see what the conditions might be that great.
>> Okay, that's a good idea. And then um the dog park we'll talk about in the discussion section and thank you for the comments on 60 sunset. We were civil, we were good, so we appreciate that. And yes. Um, so moving on. Uh,
page manager reports. Mr. Bro, thank you. Can you just give me one moment to make a note for sure? That's right. Um, with respect to my report, there are two quick items that are written that are also on the agenda for this evening. Uh the first is just an explanation of a
resolution that was put on for the council to support a Mars County Transport or Mars County application to the New Jersey Transportation Authority for a study of the boulevard. Uh county staff a number of years ago approached the township about a study with possible improvements to the turnpike that's kind of underway. Involves capital
expenditure as well as study. Uh this time they said they would like to submit an application to the planning authority for a safety study of the boulevard. Uh we've had requests for flashing lights by North Boulevard School. We all recall fondly the flashing light hopper in the
boulevard which is no longer there. A long wide road. There are a number of instances where people have gone through stop signs and wound up on front lawns of people on adjacent properties. So uh when we were approached with this I said this seemed like a great idea with no
downside. Again it's it's an exploratory application. safety related and if it were granted it would involve significant public outreach and participation. So that's just an explanation of that and then uh the next item is Sherman Avenue Sidewalks which is scheduled for discussion. So I'll withhold further comment until we get to
that stage. Any questions? That's pretty important. Any questions from council hearing? None. So we'll move on public hearing. There are no public hearings scheduled for this evening. Um item number 10. There are no ordinance scheduled for
introduction at this time. The next item on the agenda is resolutions. Miss March. >> Beginning with resolution R 2025132 approving the renewal of the designated alcoholic beverage control licenses. 133 appointing members of advisory
committees. 134 authorizing estimated tax bills in accordance with public law 1994 chapter 72 for third quarter 2025. 135 authorizing the execution of an agreement concerning sewer use payment delinquency.
136 supporting the Mars County's application to the North Jersey Transportation Planning Authority for a concept development phase study of Boulevard, which is County Road 511A in the township of Aquanic. R 2025137
approval to submit a grant application and execute a grant contract with the New Jersey Department of Transportation for the Sunset Road Reconstruction phase 2 West Parkway West Sunset Road project 138 providing for the insertion of a special item of revenue in the 2025
budget pursuant to NJSA4A 487. That's for the local recreation improvement grant for Washington Park. 139 confirming the designated memberships in the Muana Township Fire Department. 140 authorizing utility office refunds,
overpayments, or cancellations. 141 authorizing tax office refunds, overpayments, or cancellations and R2025142 approving payment of the itemized claims is set forth on the June 5th, 2025 bill list and PMA elevation escro list.
>> Good job. Good job. Um, are there any comments from council? >> He he had an emergency he had to take care of. >> He will be back. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, I guess All right. So, um, moving on. Is there any comments from
council on these resolutions? >> I see on the one with the appointments, the names aren't in there. Is that okay? that we're just >> I believe at the council meeting was said we were going to discuss it, >> right? So do we so we have to count we
have to discuss it now then right before we can vote on this. >> Correct. >> Yeah. I'm I'm okay with whoever had their application in last meeting. >> Yeah, I I would. It's whoever had their application in by the last meeting cuz
those are the ones we looked at and discussed. >> I mean we got one today. Do we need a list of that? >> Yeah, I would. And that's what I wanted to ask you. So what happened was there was some discussion um on the
one committee um and that one was added. If you're not okay with it, then I there's nothing I can do. But >> so um out of the out of the names here, Carol, who who had their application in by the last meeting? Um
the application for the that's let's see for the historic district district commission for Elan Ken Cross um the application for
um Salvador Prey the application for Vanessa Sarah sorry for mangling Mhm. June Russian Christine Cisco. >> How do we do that? Should we name
>> these? I thought you Yeah, I thought we weren't supposed to say names, but you can. I mean, you have chosen not to in the past, but these were these were also in from last meeting. The seniors, these weren't >> until you can add to the
>> Yeah, you can. You can do it every names on here, >> right? That's what I was >> I guess there was an email sent earlier by Carol uh 103 potential appointments. >> I don't know what to do with this one.
>> So, at the last meeting, you didn't have all these names. >> Mm-m. >> But they had sent them in, but >> I didn't have them. Okay. >> Now, I would move to appoint those who had their names in by the last meeting. Um, >> we want to state those and put them in here.
>> They were in [Music] >> I'm confused. >> Does everybody have a problem with any applications? >> Everybody has a problem with applications for the senior citizen advisory committees
because you didn't see them at the last meeting. You guys had a problem with those. >> Elani was in on May 1st, it looks like. Um, Vanessa isn't even 28. That's That's what's May
29th for Andrea Nodo. That's after the meeting, I think. Uh, it just seems a little you know, we we had we had we said last time that we were good with those people and then all of a sudden
>> then we got more. We got more and I just >> I just know that at the last meeting Vinnie said I that he had some empty spots so he wanted to look at it and I said the same thing. I was going to bring him at the at the last meeting but we were told to me until this meeting
and it didn't matter. We could do the meetings at this meeting. Um so when Carol asked for them I forwarded them. I had these in email from people, but they didn't get to Carol cuz we >> Well, they're not supposed to go to you.
>> I'm just saying that they cuz I go to the senior citizen advisory committee and they don't have use emails, so they're filling the form out there. So, I mean, I don't know if people have a problem with the dates or the >> No, but there's no names on it. So, I'm
not signing it. So, I what you want to do >> cuz that means everybody's on here. Exactly. >> So I'd say pull it and be done with it. >> I don't know what else to do with it. >> That's direction from one. We need direction from the whole council.
>> Okay. Then we Dave. >> Okay. So we're going to move this until July. >> Well, we either have to move it or make some appointments now. And I guess the rest doesn't feel comfortable. Well, if you could put names on it.
>> Well, there she sent that separately, but I guess you didn't get to see it, right? Is that what you're saying? >> I I take direction from the council as a whole. >> I understand what you're saying. The way it's written, >> there's no names on it, so I'm not sign. I don't know what to tell you.
>> I agree. I don't want to sign it. >> The names aren't here, but that's because this came out on Friday. >> All right. Move it. >> All right. So, 133. We're moving. >> All right. Wait a minute. We still have to have a discussion of what to put on the resolution. >> So, do we say that whoever had there?
>> I mean, I sent my recommendations in, but you didn't forward them to people, right? >> Before last meeting, >> I I forwarded >> Yes. >> the resolution and I said this is a potential applications. I think what Dave said, whoever had their forms in before last meeting
or >> I just put that on and then cover this to me tomorrow. Why did you just from a direction perspective? >> I'm satisfied. I just have a date by which those submitted and then you can prepare the resolution with those names on it. >> I can do that. >> Okay, let's do that. So, what was the
date of the last meeting? >> 27th. >> All right. So, before the 27th. >> All right. The only thing I was going to mention, if you want to leave it the same same as what you just decided, that's fine. But the senior citizen advisory committee, there is a lot of elderly people who were sick and could
not come. I kept telling the senior citizen advisory committee at every meeting that I couldn't do appointments until June. I didn't know that they had to get the application in the 27th before the last meeting. We didn't give them a deadline. I just said I couldn't
do anything until June. So, we had to go through the process of removing the people that are sick or no longer with us because they passed away. And we went after and looked for a few more people because the senior citizen advisor tell
>> Well, I don't think we have to go by a date. >> Don't Don't we need to know? You got to go some by date otherwise >> I think what we decided >> So, if I go out today and get somebody, I throw them up. I think that doesn't make sense. >> No. No, whoever whoever I I generally know when I mean when I
know when people resign to me. I I don't have >> if she gets an email, she goes. >> Do you have a problem? >> I would encourage them to put their thing in when we go and do it again in December. >> Do you have a problem going with the May 29th date? [Music]
>> I don't care. I don't. May 29th. May 29th. Going. going gone >> gone May 29th. >> May 29th. >> Okay, >> you got it. >> Right. So, we're going to What are we going to do? Take 133 out and then put the names on for May 39th or we going to Are you going to put the names on this one? >> I'm going to assume
>> till May 29th. >> I'm going to assume that I can correctly put in the names of those people that I got the applications by May 29th >> on this one. And then we'll do it for the July 8th meeting. >> Okay. >> For the July 8th meeting. >> Yes. My recommendation is let's get our >> Yeah. Ducks and
>> let's let's sort this out, get it together for the council, circle. Okay, moving on. So, we're going to pull 133. Um, any other comments on any of the other ones? >> I mean, yes. Uh, with respect to 135. >> Yeah, I had a question on that one, too, but go ahead. >> Uh, there there's uh which one do we
pick? Just yeah, Mr. Lake, I don't know if you want to report on what contact you have or have not had not received a phone call back from the meeting when and have tried several times and sent several emails, but we offer to increase the time period, but had no response.
Okay. The only contract I have signed is the one we did originally. I have no idea why they don't respond to their attorney, but we've had no response.