##VIDEO ID:2vGFh6bpqzw## bu another one I think that boly okay right there I got open well I [Music] they have to open them like I don't know why and John talked about that I don't know why it's that way either no prices just you know about the engineer like account start like County start put stuff on the floor yeah yeah I went to Ken Davis's office one day the same way remember K go in there and he's got like a circle of books all around on the floor totally organized where everything's at just one dep [Music] early is okay do the prayer for [Music] us we're going to get the December 10th 2024 city council call it to order let reminder to silence your cell phones and Miss Dan's going to lead us to the open in prayer my father we come to you tonight grateful grateful for a living God who cares who watches over us and provides for us and protects us and and we're grateful we thank you tonight we just ask that you be with this Council as we make decisions that affect the citizens of Perry help us to make good decisions decisions that help the citizens and help the city at the same time in Christ's name I pray amen amen I ALG to the flag of the United States of America and to the repblic for it stands one nation Our God indivisible with liy and justice for all please ma' R Council M Hanson counc wood vice mayor Landry here mayor here item number three approval of items on the consent agenda uh a approval to read by title only ordinance 1046 and D approval to read by title only resolution 2024-25 29 motion be approved R yes council member or vice mayor Landry yes mayor K yes item number four receiving request from the general public is there anybody here that would like to speak on something that is not on the agenda yes ma'am hello hi Angela Cuchi s Florida I here as president of the Taylor County Historical Society and we just wanted to say thank you to the city of Perry and specifically from joh Fort for your efforts in getting the street lights all fix and Bon Bri Danielle um for our downtown Christmas that we had them past Friday night uh the top the the top feedback I got was one it's cold my response was is better than rain and the second one was oh the lights look great so thank you so much for that it made a world of difference and we appreciate your help and the city's help and the pride department and the police department's help and uh everything they did to contribute toward making that an event that went smoothly we had hundreds of people downtown and everyone I believe had a good time say thank you very much thank you thank you for all the hard work okay anyone else like to speak on anything that's not on the agenda here nothing we'll move on to number five which is bids and um only bid we have is the Boys and Girls Club kitchen expansion it looks like currently I'm opening seal bids for Boys and Girls Club project kitchen expansion 116-1 I will only be reading out the vendor and the amount of the bid there will be no discussion at about at this time about any bids that is being opened the bids will be given back to the purchasing agent and then to the department which the sealed bid is for the city reserves the right to reject any and all bids the city reserves the right to select the bidder wave any informalities or to accept the bid deemed to be in the best interest of the city any errors of bid submission are the responsibility of the bid this is from plus Point construction for $168,900 good have yes sir that's the only de Right Carly all right what is this guess what is this about is this something city pays for we maintain the we maintain the building for which they pay in so we got $158,000 of non budged hello there was a question about the Mr Bill's got a question about the Boys and Girls Club did who's prar this be anyway do we know why they're expanding it is that the kitchen Edition okay wish we justar and let them handle all their own stuff I know they they can't buy it right they have to release i' much rather the finan not be tied to each other like they are now that was some deal I guess Penny and then had worked out I didn't like it from the start I miss the first I wish we weren't in the business at Le any of this Stu boys and girls I know they have to lease and I want to help them do everything we can but I wish we just leas it to them for $1 a month then let them handle their own repairs and their own I don't like Ty that money up it together that's the way gr up right now all the money they give us in rent and put spend back out maybe time to renegotiate I don't know if a dollar lease is an us real about a lease how do you renegotiate a lease that's not recall what they're doing is they can't purchase yeah that's that's what they are doing now yeah how do we re negotiate I know I think the Le like 10 grand a month it's six grand six grand a month they can had the ability to spend all that money back out that's last year they were paying 8 500 trying to build up their savings but they pay six what's best boys girls I've been a m that for a few years and Mr Bill is exactly right they cannot own anything that can only lease and everything the boys and girls billing had expanded on in the past at least increased to cover the expense that it's being paid for by them through the lease payments so this is not anything that they're getting without paying for um maybe we can ask the director to come and speak about this at the next council meeting to explain what it's for and that might be how we can get the anwers that you want for this so your saying the answer is to increase their rent payment yes ma'am that's happened in the past yeah and I don't know what the plan is on this question 169,000 basically we don't we didn't budget for that yes ma'am I understand that but maybe we can get the the executive director of boys and girls club to come and explain to this of what's historical mixing is on the building since we have new leadership with the the city anybody got any more questions or comments move on item number six request for request for qualifications for U State Lan Services I thought the council have decided to do something like this if you P the council or something you go if you what you say about that lady attorney it's against the law christas for Christmas they need to get you a Sunshine Law book and totally against the law what project have you got in mind garage trucks do what garbage trucks preparations request fire trucks back trucks Ser water anything else let me let me put one on you how about a fire station we tried that last year we asked for way too much money no you didn't try a fire station TR public safety building right I'm talk about the fire station ibody there help us well I I I think we uh we need a real specific project fire station is a good one they've been in that building since 1935 every times they have to expand something they just squeeze it somehow in that probably be fed over multiple years I know the county asked for a public safety building Emergency Management complex ask for 2 I don't care what count ask for I just know we're not going to get more than that 2 million at a time at most I'm not talking I'm not talking about Public Safety complex I'm talking about just a fire station combine police and fire 18 milon we don't need to combine police we got what's wrong with that once we have we talk about Mee we talk about what projects we to be done well before you start something like this you ought to have the project in mind and uh you a said a word us that's what my understand I I will ask this Council to to agree on the fire station I real anything we can get basically one me I went to John I think you were at both meeting or it was advised us to our lobbyist reason I was toldy get pretty good bit of money without a lobbyist but they always got first choice yeah Count's and to more they are Count's going always get first choice and if we compete with them in the past they you're not going to get anything that's right but that's what I'm offering is that we we uh fire station okay so if we hire one that's the project you would like to see project I'm okay with that I'm sure yeah I mean you one fire truck behind another I never like that idea my understanding that what we pay a lobbyist is based on what he goes after for us so if we don't get go after that much then we don't pay that much I can't do that they gonna have to be on a fee they have to what they have to be on a fee yeah you can't just on I talk to recommended three to five projects just sub w't be more than five yeah top on fire yes ma'am oh FL cities do for us they don't do anything for us they looking they would let them know they wouldn't do something like this but you know they would help us I believe well has to help everybody don't they equally supposedly yeah well I've thought about that long and hard and I believe we need to do this and first priority in fire station that's good to me I got to do a fairly quick the session starts what January February well yeah things already getting in the ho right now for the time put out now we want something in this next right I understand February's when when you go in the session February January January by the time session starts it's about too late count TR to wor about buildings right now concerned citizens just they they got they got the fire station at the airport and they've got what Katon and Ste and Shady Shady gr they got one not man the only ones that's man is you got one man in St hat you one man at the beach and a couple at the airport okay the rest of the they got all volunteer just for pmas yes that's what I will offer motion that we proceed with this second you going get the money that's for you to figure out I'll figure it out put a million a half in the cd% making us it's not talk about that that's a sensitive subject gota go through the whole process and get to the negotiations BR yes council member hton council member wood yes V mayor Landry yes mayor kin yes council member hon yes governor and guys up there know what kind of projects they're looking for the governor might tell them no house this year don't even worry about it so got to go for the bigger P that's but that help us walk us through that process well some of the trouble we get into that's not necessarily trouble some of the situations I thought about it yeah we know our rips we know our Senators I don't know anybody in the governor's office not as so if they don't know what's going on and we got an appropriation want they're just going to drop it I would like to have verbal Comm Communications in this with what with who whoever whoever okay very good currently I'm opening the sealed rfqs for R number 20243 qualifications for State Lobby and Services I will only be reading out the vendors there will be no discussion at this time about any sealed rqs that are being opened these RS will be given back to the purchasing agent the city reserves the right to reject any rfu the city reserves the right to select the vendor wave any informalities or to accept the vendor deemed to be in the best interest of the city any errors and RQ submissions are the responsibility of the vend that's one place yes ma'am the request for quations at the bottom must be deep qualified the Southern Group night more this is Mark Anderson governmental Consulting Johson andon LLC Johnson I'm sorry Johnson and bl LLC TR rig how it looks anfield anfield and field okay s out send him another day okay one two three four five total this was R the staff will rank them based on the criteria that we have in RF bring those ranking back to Y no that's the signning sheet for the kitchen expansion that we sending it out for a bed or information on it we were here y Sig up open IIT one for a one for RF I have to talk sign us all right agenda it 7A tlor nent with fgu to discuss with Council their marketing and sales program Council will take any action in necessary hello thank you I guess so good afternoon n with B gas utility um I'm here to talk about the sales and marketing program that Fu foras facility currently offers with me I have Chandler Corbin Megan Santiago and Robert Graves before the think up the member services department um and we handle the program I appreciate you guys having me and if you have any questions feel free to stop me as we go along so a little bit about Florida gas utility we've had a few Representatives speak at previous Council meetings but just uh for anybody in the room that doesn't know who we are um we are a nonprofit Municipal joint Action Agency we're pretty much a fancy name for a co-op um with 26 Municipal members with electric generation uh unit that we Supply natural gas for as well as 20 municipalities local Distribution Systems just like the city of Perry um you guys have been a member of ours since 2001 and we currently provide several natural gas related services to you guys um between gas supply hedging which I know Katie Hall was here at a previous council meeting to discuss with you guys about um Regulatory Compliance we make sure that you guys meet all the federal guidelines for your distribution system um Grant application and award assistance currently we're assisting with an application that we apply that got awarded for a $500,000 or a little bit over a $500,000 grant for replacing your gate and regulator stations um and then project management throughout that entire project we assist every step of the way we uh the city of Perry pays a f membership charge to us so any of our services are not an additional cost to the city it's all included and then any cost that we incur on top of um what the city needs we just pass it through there's no markup there's nothing you pay what you would have paid to do something without us so why am I here why marketing um so every other utility is required between electric water waste water natural gas is not natural gas your system is a revenue source for the city um and so for you to grow that system it's going to bring in additional Revenue by increasing your gas sales um the purpose of it is to add new customers uh whether they're along the exting system or its new construction or retaining your current customer base so if somebody has a natural gas water heater you don't want them to go down to Home Depo plug in an electric water heater because then you then lose that customer there so providing a marketing program to know let them know that it's out there for them is pretty crucial to Growing your system um and so the key components I'm going to talk to you about are the advertising campaign the rebate program and the dealer Network so the advertising campaign at Targets the residential and the commercial audience residential is going to be more of your comfort side commercial is going to be more of the cost saving side uh we can assist with anything with your website to design it to manage it anything along those lines and then with the marketing program you have access to a portfolio of assets that we've created that we can tailor to the city that promote the incentives what we call rebates and then the benefits of natural gas so it's reliability during storms um it's efficiency you save on your gas bill that kind of stuff so the we have a quite a bit in our portfolio of assets that already been created um everything is all a cart and it's all tailored to the city so you can pick and choose ones that you think work best for the city we can provide which I have in a couple of later slides um what we think would be best for the city but everything is an all our option and we facilitate everything for you any of these um assets as well we do this for several other municipalities so you get that full pricing to that joint action of being a member of fgo just a couple of examples of those um assets that we have so Bill inserts we keep them relevant for what's going on um in today's time so of course the reliability of natural gas during a storm uh natural gas generators I know are Hot Topics um and then fall and savings Thanksgiving uh talking a little bit more about that cooking and the savings that are there for that as well the Facebook and digital ads they're meant to be eye-catching um they provide customers to let them know that gas is there it's in their area um there can be things such as site retargeting which is if they click on an ad and it goes to the city's website or they visit the city's natural gas page they will automatically see these ads over and over again and again they can all be tailored to the city and we can also um their site specific so if there's a neighborhood that has natural gas in it already and there's a few customers in there we can Target those addresses um as well as any zip codes or anything of that nature and then door hangers they're there for um the individuals that are out in the field they're able to just put them on people's stores if they've installed a gas line in one area and know that in the neighborhood there's more customers that might would want guas everybody likes to talk about costs um so I've sat down with John we've talked a little bit about the different assets that we might would be able to utilize for the city of Perry what might would fit best um and these are just generic fall Parks they are on the conservative side just the uh for Bill inserts 600 a month that would be a run of um Bill inserts so it would just be for the month it would go out that one time and then everything newspaper ads Before 40 a month and so forth um budgeting so we would include this in the it's the cost of the providing service to your customers um and so it would go on the city's monthly G gas bill from fgu so it would essentially just all go into the cost of gas and again we never charge for anything above what we incur on your behalf so there's absolutely no markup to anything that we do so the city currently offers we would call it a rebate program but it's an incentive program uh it's not currently advertised but it's a credit on the city's are on the customers utility bill uh it doesn't have many conditions and requirements except for the 750 maximum per resident um and it's recorded as a note in the Billing System we have applications for rebate our rebate programs that we offer that we would be able again to tailor to the city so that it would streamline everything one for the individuals that are inputting it into the system as well as ensuring that people are safely installing appliances as well as they're getting the proper rebate at the right time so it kind of streamlines everything for that um our current rebate program we match the investor own utilities um and so for the big four appliances there's a few reasons for this uh for the big four and the reason that we do that is because these are ones that are uh users over time so they're consistent uh ver is what we call the attractive appliances which is the generator the pool heater the fire locks they're only going to kick on every now and again um so you want to make sure that when you're providing an incentive to your customers that you're providing them for ones that are returning on that Revenue uh we also match the investor owned utilities and I will warn you they are pretty generous uh the only reason that we do that is because um it's free advertising so if they see TCO offers a $600 rebate on a water heater they call the city the city can also you know back that up and it's good customer service however they are not required whatsoever um so the like I spoke before the conditions and requirements we have those application forms we work with the city to determine what the best levels of rebates are um or incentives are uh the eligible appliances the timeline for the applications we can do all of that with the city to make sure that it's fair to the customer as well as it's fair to the city too so the current preate amounts for uh the investor owned utilities or what our current municipalities are doing um they pay out a rebate check so they actually cut a check to the customer and the reason for this is because if it's a person that's coming on to natural gas for the first time the cost to pipe the home is expensive to do for however many appliances that they do so the replacement is going to be a little bit higher so it offsets that piping cost um but again these levels are not required so what we did was we kind of took what the city is currently doing and based them against those investor owns and so for this to be the credit on the utility bill um there's not one that's in here that's more than $100 more than what you're currently offering um as well as you guys don't offer you know the retention or the replacement uh differences so the replacement is like I said a little bit higher and then the retention is a little bit lower just because all they're doing is switching out the appliance versus having pip the entire home so what we propose and again this is all very much so tailored to what the city sees to bit for its citizens as well as uh for its gas system uh would be to increase those current rebate credits that I showed you previously and then after you would develop a dealer Network and what this is It's a mutually beneficial relationship between your plumbers and your contractors that you know if they're in the home and they say hey the City offers rebates it's more money in their pocket because they're Plumbing they're doing more work inside these homes and then it's more money for the city because you increase your your gas sales um and then the pass through cost to advertise with following assets so those Bill inserts newspaper ads and social media ads that I spoke about earlier um the frequency is at the very far right those again are can all be altered and tailored to the city and what the city sees uh a good fit for them and then this since this is a pass through to your gas customers um it's less than $150 per monthly bill for your gas customers and it does decrease as your amount of customers increases so our recommendations would be to execute the directive um to allow us to help and start implementing parts of our program that would be tailored to the city and then accept the proposed marketing plans which is the rebate amounts and the materials and Frees can you go back to 13 just just uh use the water T this water here you're saying that to convert from Electric to gas cost who 675 it would cost the city 675 if this is the rebate amount that you would go toward this is just currently what other municipalities do but it would cost it cost our municipality 675 which they pay a check back to the customer well that's really not a that's a skewed number I guess because if you don't do anything your labor cost remains there so so it doesn't cost that much something less it would cost the city are you talking about the service line installation to we cost that yes and materials so you could actually it's actually less than that as a cost to the city so it's more you can make you can make your plan more attractive let me get it straight if I've got gas now and I want to add a gas say a gas generator you got $50 up there gas no electric gas and $50 from gas to gas who gets the $50 you would the customer gets $50 that's correct City's making long-term Revenue off selling of the gas it's what city makes the revenue off selling the gas to them sure so you're just trying to get to say with it or convert it to gas okay and in the same situation if you have an electric water heater and you install a tankless water heater in your home then you're going to get that $675 rebate or whatever rebate amount chosen by the city right now this can be changed according to our decision yes so this one is the proposed rebate amounts or incentive amounts currently you offer a credit on your gas bills or your utility bills and so this is just increasing those amounts that you currently offer and then separates out the replacement the electric to gas and then the retention the gas to gas thank you these are just recommended numbers by [Music] FG and the only reason that we did it was just to make it a little bit more comparable to what the investor owns are doing but again you're currently doing something that's in a way similar to this these are just a little bit higher mentioned something about a ass generators being a Hot Topic what's yes do we need to go there tonight probably not okay I look into it has any municipality stopped doing this I started we currently have all of our original municipalities we're doing it for uh we've been doing it for five of them for um at least six years and then we have uh one that we just added this year yeah but you didn't you do that we paid but think it's a benefit to the city and the C we can always stop doing if see not working course down just a marketing incentive plan to get people switch over to Gas Electric just to summarize if I'm wrong please tell me that's all it is Bill inserts and you say 11 months 600 a month for 11 months that's correct and you would do that every month or do you just do it when we say we want to do it this month it's however you want to do it um it's not set in stone for the other municipalities that we do uh we do the 11 months the 12th month is actually for your public Ori damage prevention the one of the requirements that you have to do for your gas system the other 11 months is the bill are for the marketing the incentives the benefits of natural gas but again you can tell me that you want to try it for six months and if you don't think that you like them or they're not beneficial we can always put a halt to that if you think that social media ads and digital ads are more beneficial we can always shift that from month to month nothing is sented St for the year or anything like that okay now the cost to the city then is whatever of that we choose however we choose it however often or whatever and the Ates to the customers so the cost to the city for the actual advertising that would happen we have it in here that would be the Co in the cost of gas because it's the cost of doing service so we could include it on your natural gas bill that you get from fgu every month um and so it could be dispersed across all of your gas customers so it comes to that $150 a customer a month which is less than $18 a year um and then if they get a rebate back or a credit back on their bill essentially they're not paying anything additional so the cost for the actual advertising itself does not come from the city it comes from the community and then the rebate amount is that credit on their gas bill or on their uity I make a motion what motion we have a second any more discussion we need to do something we've got people that have a gas sign in front of their house but they're running propane oh my yes yeah I didn't know that well got a motion in a second any discussion R council member bran yes council member Hanson yes council member wood yes vice mayor Landry yes mayor K yes thank you agenda item 7B Council to discuss engineer's proposal to assist with bio Solage permitting and Council will take any action deemed necessary yes ma'am there was one I think should have been on the table put there get it mixed that front page at the bottom says boys and girls could you got the right you another letter we got from DP tell us we're out of compliance you use the mod please thank okay this is another letter that we got from DP that compliance Sean there he is tell them what your bio solid permit is so what are we looking at here let me catch you up the engineer proposal um I have I have this only have these two copies um whenever the permit was du to be renewed the perit is due to to be renewed local limits and bio solids uh um perid had to be redone as long with the B Water Treatment Plant this is where the city sent out ISS to have the local limits and I only have these two copies but that's what sent out there there's different dates on those I don't know why and I don't know how I don't know how it was selected but this is the PO and the scope of work presented by an engineer that's not on that um not on that request so so basically when all this was redone some some of it it wasn't necessary that it's wrong some of the limits were set higher than they needed to be I'm just going to use a number 400 if uh let's say our capacity at our our site um in that permit I'm going use the number 400 they said you know we that's our limit at the B solid side well when they when they got that high it it required other things called a groundwater monitoring system instead of going to 400 we could have lower those numbers to 300 and not had to do the groundwater and monitoring system groundwater monitoring system consists of monitoring Wells put in the ground at at probably 75,000 to $100,000 to install these Wells then on top of that the annual um testing and just the liability of maybe something being wrong the city could get caught up and in s with D um if those numbers are lowered these things AR required question we need to take at this point counselor this forward it needs to be re revised and fixed it may need to be completely redone just something that re resist we just need to redo it what we have now I but all of it wasn't done and that particular f with that engineering firm the wastewater treatment permit permit was redone and the bi the nutrient management plan with the local limits weren't um and like I said how that got through or how that I have no idea that was back that started back in 2021 or 20122 we're just trying to correct I say it's not that it's wrong it's just the limits were set high enough and requiring us to do things we really don't need to do needs to be rework sir Okay order to get work done was Grand up to 20 grand worst case scenario they have to the whole thing like say some of it contradicts so um as a part of the you know operating permit you need to do a neutrient management plan on the biosolids for whatever reason I got a copy of it it was done city was not aware of it we found a copy through D and there was all sorts of requirements in it which really you don't need you know Sean explain to you it's going to cost you money what our job will be is we met with theep the city got a couple of warning letters they were asking where monitoring well so we what we'll do is a step process what we do is first we'll talk to them and look at your nutrient management and try to reduce it and if it you can get by with it that's all you need uh but if the D makes us redo everything um then we may have to go little further but this is just uh to look through make sure that you can get it done uh we are on a time crunch on that one so we just put a number together and says hey this is what we think is going may take up to but that's why we did a tnm rather than saying this is but really after meeting with the EP initial indications are that they if you do few things and probably try to modify the existing one they may buy it you home fre if they don't then we so that is that's why I put it in as a tnl what it stems to is how much SL you can apply on your um SL and right now I think city is doing both City's haing it off at a cost and then land applying too over the last few years the BP has reduced the limits so at this point we need to go through and R talk about this y that was different one that was different one that has to do with what you are receiving uh that is for local limits which was supposed to be done did that that's in that request Mr Bill but it wasn't done right we've talked about this so the local limit is what is when you're receiving from the industry um I think the last one I seen in your CT was 25 years old and the last perit was supposed to be done last time and they didn't do it and it's actually going to protect you because if somebody is putting a lot of nutrients on you you can charge them so this is a local limit the needs us to create and that will be done and then this one is what you sent up uh into the facility U you know land of line the Sledge which comes out of that's that they should have been done with the original like a lot of other things we're having play catchup what motion to approve C yes council member Hampton yes council member W yes vice mayor Landry yes mayor K yes agenda item 6 C Council to interview and rank Grant Administration consultants for C dbg Grant and Council to take any actions deemed necessary asked last that they on to rank for this only there was only two so we be number one and two the council ask that they be the ones to do it for this the council's responsibility Council don't have their responsibility they might not like it because it takes up their time the rank the ranking can be done by City staff and we could BR a ranking back to yall to do the the interviews and negotiations reest last meeting was for the counil these two'll be two for Grand admin and two for engineering okay so this is Grand me that's Engineering St can make a recommendation and bring it back to us is that what you said we can do that at the last meeting y all requested to be the ones doing the rank right well I'm not prepared to make a decision on that tonight on the lank I would love for the staff to give us what they think that a motion yes a motion please man' counc bran no counc M Hampton yes Council M Woodall nope vice mayor Landry yes mayor K this is just for just for yall Rank and bringing back responsible for interview and negotiate yes6 D sorry you're at seven Council to interview and rank engineering consultants for see b d BG Grant Council to take any action name necessary this engineer for the [Music] same do the same thing two for the grant admin and two for the engineering okay want to introduce yourselves ran as with Services BR plan manager for Prof Services happy to be here and happy to serve here here I have Ricky with me he heads our do and the Department happy to be here answer any questions you have need any information thank you he's lost his hair I kept mine gray and hold on to it but we he leads our water and waste water practice and I lead our transportation design business as it relates to project like this we've helped the city do stop scrap Grant applications and all to the dot for Paving projects in the city uh since 2017 2018 and help prepare these documents for the submission of the city look forward to sstem afternoon I help the city put the application together and so it was a great application the the department didn't have any questions yeah so it was a really good application and you're very forunate hopefully a special meeting just for that January 14th get that project going absolutely what time you talking about December 24th or 25th but next Tuesday 17th since question I all of you that are here appreciate you coming uh I am one that believes this is responsibility of his counsil yes and I've got questions for all of you okay so do you want them to come back when we have our that's up to them you want to ask you ask that no no no no no you've taken that away no we're still we're on the I know what you you've taken my opportunity away when you turn this over to staff sure question listen present so the way it works is they're supposed to make a presentation and you've taken that away I don't know what thatat's going to do but we don't have to agree with staff it's coming back to councel they come back with a recommendation but we don't have to had this information for weeks and they're here to make presentation and they still can get additional information we just won't get the answer today you all know how it's going be done well the uh the city hasn't adopted procurement policy for cdbg Grants and in it that the procedure is for to have a ranking committee and then you rank it then it's right to the council to vote on and so if you want a presentation as well you can do that but it's in your procurement policy that with the staff r i can the how can the council vote on something they know absolutely nothing about except to vote as staff presents to them well that's part of the reason the staff evaluates The Proposal um and they're not going to listen to an interview well you can have an interview too that's going to stop you from that so staff's going to have an interview with them they're going to rank them based on the what they submitted and present that to you and then y' can interview you can keep it I would like have there's only two for each y can interview both of them make your decision is that like for the rfqs for lobbyist I'm not going to rank them 1 through five we're going to give you our top three then y'all can interview them they made but joh was just killing time if they made a presentation today to the counc so what do you propos them I've already proposed it and voted down so I mean do it your way F I live with it do you want to be on the ranking committee I don't care do that too that was going to be my suggestion just put him on the committee that way there he can get what he need to get out go next that's do John my request is to have it where Bill can talk to them please if I got to make a motion I we all for talking no that's not no that's not it real time that's what we got F out this is what we bring they get a total Max points based on engineering experience capacity to perform the requested services and ability to perform the requested Services rank each of them give them a total that's what to be presed back to y'all and you can enter into interviews and that's what's coming back on the 17th you this from us December next Tuesday what time on the I won't make that special meeting I'll be still in class so I just you want to make it on the 18th 19th that have to be after five that's my problem I'm in school Tuesday through Friday and they understand when me having my meetings Monday be fine okay okay they good 16th yeah so do you want us to at that time be prepar to answer or what you want to do in my mind we're going to rank them give those rankings okay to them okay they're going to interview based on those rankings each so they're going to interview both y sure and but if you want to U do it while you're ranking that's why set it up have interview have to be in an open meeting you either question basically we're going to do that with seven with the uh Grant Administration and the engineering consultant both so we're basically tabling these till the 16th I going throw in these lob too if we can get to that fast get them all taken care of quick considering the timeline that would be a good idea thank you John all right so we're going to table 7 C and 7 D tillable six eight special meeting who they want then what Happ well the ranking read inter proposal rank up to to award the highest range to proposals engineering GR neate contract then all go to everybody good agend item 7e public hearing and final reading on ordinance number 1046 an ordinance of the city of Perry Florida amending the text of the city of Perry Land Development regulations as amended pursuant to an application ldr 24-1 by the city council providing for deleting public or private schools offering curricula comparable to that of public schools as a use permitted by special exception within all agricultural residential and office zoning districts providing for adding public charter and private elementary middle middle and high schools with a provision for keeping and housing of livestock use for Future Farmers of America FFA and head heart hands and health or 4 or any of the Bonafide educational use has permitted use and structure within residential office and Commercial zoning districts providing for adding public charter or private vacational and trade schools conducted in conjunction with an industrial activity as a permitted principal use and structure within industrial zoning districts providing cability repealing of ordinances in conflict and providing an effective date this is the final reading on the 4 livto well 4 and FFA FFA I think originally is what brought it up any comments or anything on this FFA head heart hands Health that's 4 I didn't know that anybody have any discussion on this any comments any discussion the board members here to make a motion motion to approve Council M yes council member Hampton yes council member wood yes vice mayor Landry yes mayor K yes before we go any further would anybody be objected to take a f minute break [Music] is good I'm ready to graduate you're you're not [Music] I don't see the control I think that's part of the [Music] issue we going on with me circulation problems or something I Sito long leg start going wake up maybe I got cre you I know I can't remember the first vehicle I ran into with a plastic radiator surprised me never thought I would see one rep fing up L when Dad on electron it was changed component on the circuit board RI the whole out or you buy a whole new unit all goes in the garbage I got little what you call Dad's been doing this can smell something tell you what burned up capacitor vist he knew all the differents anyway ready m stands toine just out how got another my didn't [Music] going get started we're gonna call the meeting back to order so next item on the agenda is agenda item 7 f Billy Brock to address the council regarding code enforcement and Council will take any action any necessary uh Bruce Griffin come to my job put these on my door but we're trying to figure out on the deal with the property about um buying the property that's the next agenda item yeah so what's going on Billy I mean if the dude if you just come to talk to somebody quit being so rude I mean you go a long ways I mean trying to say we got a junkyard we don't have a junkyard we got a mean I don't want to junk business I mean we got vehicles that Lally on Parts on back I got an ambulance there right now that the parts a going be here to first year for I mean y'all ask me to move vehicles I move Vehicles got rid of vehicles but they said come I mean other vehicles are coming back but the hurricane come in all these people come in some of their cars broke down so you still got them the part's gotten harder to obtain for some of these vehicles every day to get every day I know that is a thing I mean I got a vehicle at the shop that's got to have a transmission and they don't want to make a transmission you can't even get a used transmission for customers coming to pick it up take it to their house just gotta wait on Parts got one with a dash out be 8 weeks I put a he core in bused a whole dash it's eight weeks before the dash that truck is sit par I get a dash here to put truck dve change he's got to take the whole front endart ridiculous but way it is so what would you what can we do for you just I mean he's want to come and violate somebody I mean get violate when y I mean I'm trying to do what y'all asked stuff don't happen overnight and then he said something about the the vehicles on other property we've done talk to the landowners they're f with Mr Hughes right across the road y said I can use this property just got to clean it I got to get time to clean it where I can park Vehicles over I need to then he say about the rway what's the difference me parking on the rway and somebody I'm getting in trouble parking on right away the city of Perry can go right over here dirt place and park on the city right away on the side of the road and you got numerous other people that's parking on right away nobody gets nothing look at hair young they're park on the city right away nothing said mean I thought we had agreement but we're not going to the agre S do you want to say something oh okay I thought I heard you so you want to say something this says that there to be out of sight behind a wall or a fence put a fence up or nothing until I find out when we get about the property okay so that's where the vehicles are that are in non-compliance right now well we got to figure out what land we got where we can put up that's what you say I just understand why I got to put a fence and most of the other businesses around here don't have to put a fence up man we're gonna be fair here across the board be fair with me be fair with everybody else I hear you town has got multiple code violations in this town I me you can ride through here and see it just don't pick and choose one person and try to drive them in the dirt when Bruce was a police officer he come to my place and told me I was a new at the Highway 19 back there the a deputy Bill Brown him said I was doing fine said just not oh yeah 7 doing F just keep it all organized we had agreement if you got anything you want to add to um this current Council that sits now heard this same thing over a year ago um this is not the first time he's been noticed it's not the first time we tried to work with him to get him to comply he came before you to the point where I was told we were harassing him and we stopped talking with him and we're going to go through the code enforcement processes outlined in Charter now we tried to work with him hold on B and this has been over a year and that property's changed hands since then as well so Mr Dort now owns the property not Jason camell so Mr Dort was noticed that this was a violation not Billy BR and it was posted at the property itself like we're supposed to do as well as no desent to me but the thing what I was going to say was his guy did not come to my shop and try to talk them silver lies talk to us he come and cussed us out you can't talk like that to somebody and if you going to cuss him out the whole time he's been rude from day one like I said when you first come up for the first time I was on am working on AMS he said you need to get your ass out M amance we got to talk you can't do that the guy's got a bad attitude I mean if he come socialize and make a a good conversation we all sit there and talk but he's always got a bad attitude when he all right passed over that okay we got a second item on the agenda here let got to do ma'am I absolutely have you spoken with Bruce these allegations that and and there's no way to prove it either way he can say Bruce has done this Bruce can say he didn't do it there was no one there I said I I start video every time he comes up but I'd also like to mention that I've talked to him civil in the past without cussing him as he's claiming one I've gotten I've gotten but I tried to work with you yeah you you said you did I L and it still went nowhere you know this is the Highway 19 Corridor and I agree and there's an ordinance that was passed to address the Highway 19 Corridor to improve it to make it look appealing to people that might want to invest here and that's what we're focusing on when you drive down Highway 19 you can't miss certain things and this has been over a year on this instance but it started long before Bruce was even in Code Enforcement it started when Bobby was still here no we had agreement that everything was fine long as they kept it mode and kept it all organized everything was fine but it was still inol they all drove up y to my shop talk all let ask you this Billy if you don't get this other piece of property and you or right you say there's another piece of property you have the ability to use yes it up and but it's just going to take time I got I mean do it every night would that help alleviate the problem complaining about me parking on my car D cars on side the road what's why can't I park my vehicles on the side road everybody else around me everywhere around is on on the doing the same thing I'm doing the ways to address that are outlined in that letter that's clear please I don't know I don't manage his business he would know how many cars he had I haven't been back over there because I don't want to be accused of harassing him when we're trying to get with the council rules and the laws of the City of Paris and don't want him to lose his business and turn it away I agree but he still has to supply with the ordance but I mean you y'all tell me the cars of limited the cars you don't know what you're going to do when you tear a car apart to see what problems you have no but he did say that we've been at this a year now but I've been waiting on trying to figure out I did move cars and I did clean up my facility I did move cars and did clear clean up mhm okay so I did this from the last time we talked and did what we were doing I ain't but I did so putting up a fence F would comply there something's going have to happen everywhere or just here it depends on what the zoning is for each area Zing the businesses all zon not always no they change a little here and there but what do you know what the zoning is on that one right I think it should be either commercial or commercial intensive on that what I would say I mean I talked to do road department do and they told me that there was not a code enforcement on a us do highway I just talked to them last we they their code enforcement law well up to the property line yeah when it goes to the property line then it's so put a privacy fence up that would a fence that you can't see the stuff like a little wooden privacy or the sled chain links or whatever as long as it's yes as long as it's um not transparent fully or see them from the roadway when you drive any part of it yes there was any cracks in between the boards you ain't supposed to have those either in the gate Shing just saying you still see the vehicles I can see a whole lot of people ducking behind he already having a there already that iar half of that there's a way you could eliminate your ordinance that's the only other way what needs to be done just say what needs to be done is these deputies sitting at night up here behind Napa and sitting around and start the trolling the county you get some of these people around anyway gu what it boils down to is how do we cure this problem and I gu so the P property you're looking at buying is the long strip yes this this portion over there right yeah it was all the way from there to BR Street or whatever the next street is and I I was going to donate the rest of it to the church who's buy you or Leon it's to do Le name but I'm bu okay so Leon's behind it yeah I gotta once we can get the property the whole point was just put a fence up get some of the cars behind there and then at least this way here it brings everything where the city's happier you know what I mean so that they're not having the sea is then we can get a fence up from that property across the front up to where the garage is so it's so convenient for him to be able to pull vehicles in and out of but get that stuff kind of cleaned up behind the fence area the only thing that he's worried about once the fence is up is because there are people that they do go through the cars at night seeing what they can take what not that was one of the excuse me concerns to have in the fence up that was one of the you know big deals obviously you know we can speak with Jamie and say hey there's something we can do he's got security cameras to put up you know what I mean but at the same time that could still be a little bit difficult so they didn't do nothing to the the last BR in told me that I didn't have enough he got that pie where where's the piece of land you're talking about using ba the other piece it's across Dall right right there where that stop sign by the first part of where the stop sign is that guy's from Jacksonville he said long as I keep mode I can use all them and then the wooded spot right your your butts up to it so are are you using that spot now no ma'am not yet I I do Park cars there yes ma'am you park on rway though generally right yeah the problem is some of the vehicles and it's not him it's just the other people that park over there they're going to stop and run over there for something they'll leave their car sticking out so that was the whole thing of he fol got permission so we can get that area clean and have people park in that area it'll keep people off of the street so this way here it's not get Jamie a hard time because obviously somebody can get hurt because does mean they leave vehicle stick and not two feet sometimes it's nothing that has anything to do bil it's just somebody who may be frequent in the shop sure or even stopping there for one time for you know they still leave the vehicle taking out so that was the whole point of is cleaning that area up where we could park and put something in there so that this way here keeps people off of the streets like you got a plan just need to it's some time to work on it make that's I was going to say the biggest thing is getting that piece of land as to where we can put a fence up and then get stuck over there then it gets stuff out of eyesight and then obviously cleaning up the other land as we're making a pocking spot out of it as long as you know it's okay with the owner of the land because obviously we already tried that several times not much let's go I would I would suggest so that you don't violate your own ordinances to let them present this to the magistrate the plan and let her decide what kind of grace period should happen because that's the process that we follow and it's established by the city for handling these complaints and that that hearing would be coming up is there a hearing notice date on that is should be January Jan January 6 2025 okay so 430 help me understand why it said address the council regarding parcel so and so to determine the purchase price who's going to determine the purchase price is what we're trying to find out who owns the property the city city owns it that little I guess it was going to be a road never turned into one or something strip or Alleyway or whatever something yeah okay so do we have wallpark figure on that you won't set up for anything less than the appr Val the praise value is 5,000 for the whole strip I think he just wanted this portion but if he's donating no we going buy the whole strip we get City you're CH you got the same problem with the church right now the church is actually built on with that part okay but you're buying from 19 all the way to Bryant yes ma'am okay and that is the $5,000 John yes ma'am and then you going to give the church the church's cuz we have agreement I talked to him the other day I give them that right away if I can park cars on their property and everybody said yes as long as I get them back off don't leave them there wait well there's a purchasing procedure for property that the city has some Surplus that need to be followed yeah have we did that since the last time he came before us when we had said we were going to yall have to discuss what the purchase price is decid it was going to be where property appraiser had their said I believe that's we is notify joining land owners as well that's what I'm saying that's what I thought we were doing last time we discussed this the one that the Christmas shop and we sent letters and we sent I'm pretty sure we sent letters here this has been going on for so long and he come before the council I even listen to it and it said that I wish I did not bring my little note was okay Bill Brian said he couldn't get the entire thing he has to buy the entire thing and donate to the church and that's what he said and then he Bill Brian's offer Brock offered to buy the whole thing and donate and Brian said for him to start moving forward but they can work out and I could understand some of the issues so it was up to him to start moving forward with but y'all never said a price that night we we never said what the praising was I don't it was sort of hard to listen but there was some back and forth with it and I never heard and the minutes don't reflect that I did say that on the one by CH I said y'all never did say a price on yes we got it appraised or is that just gu that's the basic one from the property that's what much been going by I think for a while that anything recent that's that's been going quite some time well can I make a motion that we set the price at $5,000 and the and the purchaser has to take care of the CL and girl all that what we sell it to him it's his I'm say everything that comes with it all fees and all that kind of stuff to do the yeah and you go and you're going to need the church's part to them and um what about a agre the coun that that will happen so he doesn't change his mind yeah I was thinking of of what I'm thinking as a double as a d you do a dual closing you get the get proper then you turn right around at the same time and that way when you get your survey done you can go and get it surveyed and broken up and everybody's got their own description type thing they probably save you money you know everybody money just do all at one time yes get surveyed anyway just put two more already got that in works there too but we have to figure out what we do he's got it Four Corners they can set six you know and draw a line wherever you want it wherever you on the church figure out and just have a double closing be got to start sometime there y so we got to come back and do an ordinance does ordinance have to be done before they go to closing has to be next me we got a motion to move forward $5,000 here we go I think okay council member BR yes council member Hampton Council M Wood yes vice mayor Landry yes mayor kin yes you got a lot of work to do on your surveys and all that stuff yes I was going to say I know I got to get with city manager for the you know what I'm talking about for the so that we can put fence no utilities you got to do the 8 one call to do the that's remember we were talking in there he said something going over talk to the city manager that's why we walk across the street city manager something about or was that just permission to do it before it was actually well that you would have yeah you'd have to have permission to put in city property you don't get all this worked out yeah we'll get all this work I'll stay with Jamie I'll stay me and Jamie have a very good relationship so we get on S we get on the uh code enforcement right now I guess you just going to go in January and tell them what's going on andenes up and all that stuff this week I think if you bring the plan would accept that she's very reasonable um but if you violate it now she doesn't apprciate that that's the thing we got get everybody good deal your problem take care of your problem than you a problem my car away they move in the afternoon it's not an overnight par it's not an overnight parking we put them back in our V in our yard every night I don't see why the trash someone's injured can't ride a bicycle on a on a sidewalk neither yes you can water statute um so because I talk to Miss Nelly and she said you was a lie that you did not she did not talk to you about it yes okay all right thank you what she said I to her person I appreciate it I appreciate y'all you just get it all worked out that'd be wonderful all right appreciate it Merry Christmas to thank you all right it 68 hul Bill to address city council regarding 310 South Henley Avenue Perry Florida 32348 Council will take any action deem necessary Mr B are this evening last meeting agre not mess my brother until they come back to his uh meeting the house over there h Road I'm sorry say it again last meeting we came to they was supposed to mess with my brother L when he came to his last meeting uhhuh over there door Le m m home okay we come out last at the hall meeting that they went over there the very next morning went over there and staple not just staple but knocked D to their m home door put eight holes in there total of four dents and put a piece of paper on the door that they couldn't use tape for them all them old trees and pine trees out in the yard they couldn't find a tree to use one of them right there so they they put a notice up oh yeah very next morning after we had this meeting right here they come out there the very next morning and beat holes into their door right here like beating on the door like they serving a warant or something to put paper on the pap on on his door telling them about clean up his property over there you got a picture of by chance I do got a picture but I don't have it on the phone either I got actual printed out at the house and everything okay so that's the property we're talking about joh say 310 Henley 310 Hy yeah that little road right there on to your left right where it comes in and curve back around like a little J goes off to the race yeah see all that property right there where your area is right there all that right there Belong To The City tell me why right there ain't cleared up his property is clean you tell me why it look like Bush Gardens right there and they want people to go there and clean their property yet the city is collecting so much property off of people because they can't long strips up drop the camera down a little bit take that little all that right there all bring it down all right you see the little road to your left right there right now when you make that left which would be your left going back into the right right underneath all that wood stuff right there that's all owned by the city of property I mean but the city owns all that everything going to your North right there where it says 01 0455 whatever the city owns all that to the right right there and there are vines in there probably that big around R there that the city owns there's oak trees that can grow down on the ground with elbows touching ground and going back up into the air right there you tell me why are they so hard up on wanting him to clean up his property which is already clean everything's been mosed down to the ground there's a mobile home on there Bruce rff went over there and used the words when Jo and Page told him that that property was cleaned up he used the words that you are a liar there has never been no house on this property those are words right in front of a seveny old and a foury old well please don't I mean we got Lord knows who listening to this meeting and fol just I understand all that but I'm just saying those are his exact words right there when he's been showed that there's been a mobile home on that property right the same house is on it just got moved away from a big oak tree that would have fell and destroyed that home right there same thing going back with this mobile home right here the city up here is saying that they he can't have replac a home you know what I'm saying with a house that was already on that property well dealing with Jamie Cru right here can he explain to me why there's a woman that was been alive I ain't going to call them the names out because I know how they like to try to hang people over in these meetings right here but can he explain to me how there's a woman behind the jail house over there who was allowed to bring a mobile home in there and replace her house with a house that was I guess supposedly damaged from a storm right there and my brother has a house that was already on his property it's been there probably since the 80s right there ain't nothing wrong with it there's been two people that worked for the county done come out there and investigated that house and said there is nothing wrong with it they don't know why the city's got you know what I'm saying want them to sit there and demolish that home so can he sit there and explain that what's the Zoning for that par if there was a mobile home already there zoning shouldn't matter I mean if the house is already only way zoning should should come into play is if a house is moved off there probably another in there well the way that normally works if there's something already there when zoning happened it gets Grand fire the D but if something happens to it you can't go back with what right it just depends on what the zoning is really that's right but what nothing never happened to it the house was their on the property just got moved from underneath the Big O tree when was talking about how bad that storm was going to be it just got moved from where it was at I help them moved it over up underneath that tree right there cuz the tree is real old and it's got old I mean it's got a black water line a water mark down the middle of it like it's getting ready to split in half so yeah I have to move the house out from underneath that tree right to get it off that on that tree so it wouldn't get them damag so what what all was going on this are you talking about the process I'm just saying what what what's pull up I mean okay the the mobile home was there it was F it got moved now was a problem is that what I'm hearing where to make sense try to like BR another house on the property right here you I don't know where they getting their uh they their stuff from but if you go down that road I can't bring my semi- Tru in that road so if I can't bring my semi truck in that road explain to me how can I bring a house that Crest in the middle at 13 ft 12T wide 70t long how can I make that bin in there that house been there since the 80s them trees were just babies back then when the house first BR in that place right there if I can share the process um because we had asked the city council asked the zoning board to remove the case or delay their their final decision because they were they asked um that the owner um which is not his gentleman is his I believe his girlfriend's mother to appear um and that any proof that they had that the trailer had been in there as long as they said um would appear on December 2nd and when the family um presented at the last city council meeting you told them to come back I know it wasn't just this it complaints about code enforcement how they're being treated and so the bonent the opponent the zoning board agreed to delay because they said within 30 days come up with a plan or remove the the trailer or it would be um the milore removed and so they Del until January and they were g a notice and so my expectation was to hear from hul hul hul okay so I I believe from the last meeting the I think the I'm not sure but that the um the daughter of the owner was here and that the same thing that we were asking me for or the zoning board was asking for I thought they were going to present that information here with the owner um coming in to share what they've done and what they didn't do um and although we did not have a hearing um in December 2nd information that came from property appraisers that um and even aerial um sites and Amy has that information um but from the aerial um timeline the trailer had not been there as long as what was reported in that meeting so the violation regarding where the where the trailer is now Still Remains and so they were going to just delay and hear from the council as to you know out of courtesy because I believe they can still make a decision um to see what is presented and what the council's feedback was so basically just waiting on proof yes they ask the owner and to come with proof as so you know at the end of that last meeting I verified the address that it needed to be sent to and Bruce did post that but he got there before I could stop him that next morning after that meeting tell not to do it because it was going to be moved to January oh okay that's the reason it was posted we took it off of that agenda for that meeting meeting so the question is was the trailer there in the 80s or not and and that's a question that I can't answer because I wasn't here then but we're dependent on the Property Appraiser's office and the clerk of for any information documentation that may prove that is it possible from the are it was up under some trees or something you couldn't see it or you can't see that house from the um the property appraiser has access to a pictometry program that takes photographs at many different angles that includes a 3D rendering that could see and tell you if that and they may that's something they can access that we can't so you a physically went out there looking at the house the proper looking see there the house on it we're looking for proof in the past not current if you look now it's going to be there we're looking for proof in the past of when it was placed what his own on the property John do you know right off single I I think it's two so it's not it's not a no MH is it a mobile home or is it a mobile so it's not a man what you call manufactur it is a manufactured home okay mobile home big difference between the two I'm kind to find out depends on the the St on the plan on what it is do that round around the P Y part they still going over messing with them and the question is why can't they have a mobile home on property over there you got so many people around them here with mobile homes and everything but yall Target certain people tell them they can't have a mobile home on their property you going to go in Rich their woods and tell them they can't have mob home on their property or they can't Supply power to it because they got lights on in there and they got a house to live in it depends on the Z it's it's all zoning okay so give me just just give me a random Zone what what zonings random zon can can't have mobile homes in because they all over tell say about F houses if it says MH it can have mobile homes in it it's Z has there's about 10 10 or 12 different zonings for the for the city and I'm just guessing roughly because I I can see that list and there's only a couple that all home you got residential multiple family CL but it's got an MH in the Z and it you can have over homes in it D excuse me you don't like looking at me I'm just I'm I'm looking at the plans and I'm planing c i just like when I talk to a person about business I like looking in the face and everything person ain't truth about nothing they want look you in the eyes and everything I want to know I want to sitting there talking you about stuff all these meetings I was looking at the TV up there oh we're chur trying to get this squared away understand but if you already know what what they're talking about and everything you wouldn't really need nothing to look at you already know I'm top of here because every time you turn around they go on after if it ain't a mobile home issue it's about the property issue or they messing with choo choos over there or they shutting off my 78 year old water utilities because of some personal vandetta that he has against me about coming to the City Hall meetings and everything and shutting off water over there to Coran store over there here in the wild B you got Bruce Griffin over there shutting off water and everything then coming over there shutting off my aunt's water over there charging her all this money she ain't never miss no water bill so why I go ahead and Target some elderly woman that's got health issues that needs her utilities know it right there because stuff they got going on with me I mean it don't have me locked up twice and everything for lies and stuff and all that right there that caus me an election that I was going to so let's talk about that let's talk about 310 Henley Street of course on the agenda we got a lot of stuff talk about tonight okay why they still messing with them if if she sit there and said that all this supposed to be sent back to January why they go to very next morning I mean supposed be on top of explain I understand all that but he is the chief of police should nobody make a move without the chief of police anyway um well if you don't get word to somebody they don't know and who G orders right now per besid say the rsf that's what I'm talking about you got RMF that's multiple family say the rsf MH that's mobile home we trying to find out blue letters blue squares numbers trying to find what we're looking at rsf3 that's just single family with Le setback yeah D 21 two and three is just the setbacks there ain't no single family go there not even in that area they know thaty well lot of was probably there before on when it was on H 80s R3 is that it rsf early 9 I think knowed residential single th well actually yeah anyway what happened was the zoning if something was if someone was there before his on in h it got grandfathered in or something happened that got destroyed or moved or whatever it could not be put back I got caught on that same issue got on again being Dam and can't put back if something get let's say something's there what to say a m home and it's in a place that ain't zoned for mobile homes if it was there before zoning it gets to stay there then it gets moved out if it gets damaged Beyond repair or anything like that then it can't be put back like it was it's got to you see what I'm saying if you build a new putting a new mobile home there you can't put a new mobile home there zones change what they say well you can put a manufactured home cuz those are those aren't those aren't mobile homes they aren considered mobile homes they're considered houses yep you a newer one that's got the mix the wind loads and all that kind of FL build code there you go what about over there behind the jailhouse over there that might be mobile that may be MH over in that area mobile homes owning it might be I don't know I is that where exactly you talking about oh directly behind the jail where you can see from Street is all that up in there's MH do you see what I'm talking about you see l s f that's residential single family slmh that's all mobile home it can be single female houses or mobile homes but you said if it's damaged can't be if it's non zone for mobile home you can't bring nothing back in there at the house if it was damaged or whatever you gets damaged moved um Tak because it's the zoning is actually if a mobile home is there before zoning and they decid to say to buy home they can get another one that has to go back in the same spot they have to meet the setback they have to do it within six months I got you can't put it in a different location or anything it's got to go back exact same place I know it's six months same area got to be the same footprint I don't think it has to be the same footprint but the setbacks and things like that got what if the house never left the property then what's the issue there moved it from one place to the other is what they say never left the property did you move it back where it was okay I mean it ain't like the city of Perry got mobile home they just giving out to people and all let they get the house damage so if you see a storm coming like a and the last one we just had Helen you got a choice chance to move your house from danger out into an field and everything sure what big deal is that right there that now now all a sudden now they got to move their house or demolish their home app parents of two adults and two kids they got to CH home down because it got moved from point A over here to point B on the same property right did you move it back to where it was it's not over there just yet they had to go call the city come in there and tell them they got to clean the property off so now they got the property clean now they they come back again I tell them they want the house T out so why te down a house Charles August works for uh is on the the County Board he come over there along with him and Mr what the other guy name George Clayton come over there and said there's nothing wrong with that house over there why does it need to be tore down I said that's a good question for the city the man said there is nothing wrong with that house don't think it needs to be done it's put back in place and set back up and he said he remember that house being there why don't you move it and set it back up where it's supposed to go want to tell Jamie Cruz to call off his dog and stop having them come over there and slapping up beting dents in there door and all that like Ching up to face and property are they going to replace that mobile home door are you going to move it who going to move it yeah I put it back in place a no problem setting them back up then that should solve the problem okay then are they going to stop going over there knocking dce some people homes and all that I mean don't they sell 99 cent duct team up there at the store they can't take door something what somebody come to his house and do what they going to do they get shot through the door trying to sit there and put a note up the door Mr you should show proof of that oh the Dan I got for that I got I got paper on there with staples and everything on it that ain't nothing to tape you know what I'm saying to put tape on there because if it Le a little sticky stuff on there it get dust on you can wipe the black stuff over there but when you go there and just literally beat D in The People's mobile homes and all that right there trying to sit there and prove a point and yeah that's they facing property right there private property at that I me they got money they buying up all kind of unnecessary stuff like pickup trucks for city of per we don't live in the mountains why do need par pick truck competing with Wayne P truck you just put it back put it back something in writing here tonight or sometime tomorrow sh that they gonna stop going over there harassing them he hasn't been back who ain't been back he hasn't been back since I told him that he should not posted that they pop up every night and they they fed up you got seet Fus up at that boy drive we down there matter of fact we just went and bought five brand new trucks my daddy got got one I got one I bought my old lady one my brother Le John got one we got City police over there parked over there Crossroad and D King sitting there videoing us we get we uh get a message by a cop and all that joking about it that we're probably going to be investigator because we bought five branding trucks this is the harassment that I'm in here for tonight that's why I had to take off work early to come in here so can he sit there and explain I mean all this stuff right here like I said it all stem from them cleaning up their property to them coming over there you know I'm saying shutting off utilities and all right there them sitting over there lying on me calling me in an election and everything to keep me from being one of his bosses and everything so you got a city cop that I'm sitting there looking at man roll the window down and sitting there videoing us all of us cuz we had four brand new trucks in the yard right there why is the hard hard working people can't buy pickup trucks the legal we and not the illegal way who was the officer sir I don't know who the C was in way should be let's get 3 truck tell you let's get 310 South fixed okay the board given them 30 days so ping it back the discussion was not just demolition but removal so they had asked 30 days not one day they come over there the day after we hadle while they had stated to delay any further action because it had been on the schedule for so long um and again the owner was asked to come and if they could go ahead and remove it that would be better but when you all said you'll hear it again they pushed it back so they would get another 30 days so um the order or the request was either for it to be relocated or demolished so is it is it liveable sorry oh no it is liveable why are you saying you said remove it or demolish it it was set on the calendar for removal or demolition but if it's deliv one would they delete demol the decision was um I understand when they had the hearing was that it would cost just as much to move as is to demolish it but there were um there were members on the board who really asked um the people who showed up which was not the owner please remove it because everyone agreed there was no dispute that the house was liable but if it's not zone for mobile home it shouldn't be there anyway right unless it was there before went into place the okay so that's your thing about them taking the house off the property that's that's what the bo the zoning board Shar zoning board they that man out his mouth said that he was going off what the city was telling him saying that the house was UNL they come over there looked at the house went in the house and they said they don't find a DN thing wrong with that house out there and they don't understand why they keep M they said it was unable they were in the same last week that was well I mean I know it's not for a but on top of on top of you can't kick a person out their home and tear down trying to give just as I agree and that's why the request was the proof and that's what they looking for um and so so long as he show proof it's fine that the actual the that the mobile home was there previous before and just put it back in same everything would be solved that no it wasn't a magistrate never went before the because of the land regulation so this particular situation never went before the magist okay but if if he was if he's grandfather in if they can prove if they can prove that all he has to do is just put it back and problem would be solved that's a really simple way to do it but yes if it was grandfather in um and all the information we had suggested um that trailer was more recently moved there than so we're saying it it might not be grandfather in it was placed there right if he if the owner and I guess hold on let's take a pause on this right here I B all of y'all take a trip down Hensley Road over there and drive back in there and tell me how can you get a over home whether it was last year year before last this month six months ago five years ago take a trip down that road right there I go in there with my W900 Kenworth and y'all would tell me how can you if I can't get a semi truck in there with 12T stacks on it you tell me how you going to get a house in there 13 this the stands 13t taller in middle right there the road is no wider than this table right here just about I can't get out there with my Dodge pickup truck that a cop like a watch or my F 250 Superduty pickup truck without my mirrors hitting vines that owned by the city of Parry you tell me how you going to get a m home in there keep it intact and get it on that property back in there how you going to make a 70 foot turn in a curve that ain't even no water in this room right here did you say there was a mobile home there or house was there anybody was born back in the 70s and the ' 80s no when you PCR slab they was putting rocks concrete back then difference in a house a mobile home now which was it mobile home there was a mobile home there that's right okay not M and now there's a different mobile home there no it's the same house there it just got moved from where it was sitting at out into an open field to keep a o tree from falling on it that's the one that's been there all the time that's right did you get the tree cut no we ain't got the tree cut yet the land fell out of it yeah well but you going you going to the the requirement is that you put it back where it was that's right so if you hadn't cut the tree you hadn't solved your problem what you laughing about trying I'm not laughing about anything okay so what's funny my question is we ain't put the house back yet because y'all won't sit there and leave them alone long enough to get anything done with the pl oh do you want to get this thing fixed you just want to go or you want to go around the cesm because I'm tired of them every time you turn around my brother and them got a you know saying living here and there and all that and can't get their house set up because the city won't stay up with my stupid stuff and another thing why won't they leave all if they turn around they keep uh changing up the laws on where you can and can't have a house all but all these these different jurisdiction stuff W they leave stuff alone if you buy a piece of property you spend $100,000 for it why why is it up to the city who ain't paid no money for this property can tell you what you can and can't have on your own property right there I mean if it's that if it's that big of a deal to them tell them to put up a pence where they see it goes back to Billy Brock and his property and all that right there yall want the man to put up a fence his property and everything do you want to get 310 Handley fixed or not I'm fixing fixing to call this over right honest I'm fixing to call this over with if you want to get this fixed let's do it if you don't it's up to you it don't matter it does matter we'll take it let goad so what they going to do about it I'm just saying you want to talk about everything under the sun except for this I mean that a what we're here to talk about hul let's get this fixed okay so what they going to fix it are they going to let him put his house back on his priv leing alone about it if this was there before zoning happened as far as I know I think everything will be cleared up just as long as we show proof that the house was there proud to yeah that's what I'm saying there's got to be something somewhere we found exactly tell own needs to be there now who's the property owner to you Jo mother lady over there in cville walk okay she will be here on the next meeting I'll come here tonight because I was on the agenda to speak on that because we couldn't talk about it last time we was up here y'all told me to come back then okay but she needs to be at the zoning board meeting not city council zoning board okay I'm get all of it all get fixed in everything's like it's supposed to be ain't going to be no more tomorrow morning going over there Bea more holes than the walls over there I'm over and look check the radar talking about but I ain't going get on your door trip over there you tell me how can you get a home in or off that property over there all right you know that oak trees take a lot longer to grow than pine trees all right man appreciate all right man have a good one Merry Christmas you all right Daniel item 7 I cancel to discuss garbage trucks and cancel to take any action necessary well y'all all are aware of the issues with our garbage truck we we went several days we didn't not didn't even have one garbage truck running all three of them down we're having a lot of issues with our trucks staying up and running when our backup truck stays toward up you know we have two side loaders and we have a rear loader one side loader is down you have to use the rear loader then that takes three of my men all three of those trucks stay tore up on a regular basis anymore Here recently they all three were broke down the new one we don't have a new one so we never did purchase the we never got a new garbage truck we're at the point now we've got to do something what it's killing it's killing the guys well we're having to pick up with a back Co or front end loader picking up by hand you know we can't we can't be doing no um but when one of the side loaders was down we having to use the rear loader and then that takes three men because I pulled two other men and that's been going on for months have you got some prices I've got two prices I have a price for a brand new one and I have a price for a demo they have a demo that that has 7,000 mil on it 333 hours for 375,000 it side side loader but it's a better one than what we have now yes it comes it's like a new money I thought we had reserves I thought we had budgeted for new trucks it was put in there for for Grant to do a grant but we're to the point right now we you know those trucks are used four days a week eight hours a day a lot of wear and tear on them our newest trucks are five years old what's he what's tearing up on them for the most part it's different things or is it consistently want something I was just wondering different air Brees here one we had a lot of issues with air brakes the Hydraulics the side loader I have all my men right here that can tell you I have my garbage truck drivers and they're I mean like they were driving track it it's driv to track to the dump truck last week it's unsafe it's very it is you said in on the last five six years these trucks I was going to go back and do some more research but they usually we try to get them every five years but to best that I the last you got one 2019 so it's been five years done I don't spend 400 Grand but I don't want guys working like that either I don't want I don't want because it's a liability we have to pick garbage up we don't pick garbage up they're complaining oh yeah um and if they get hurt that's going to short you out on you know so we got my next one should be starting hopefully in another week well I have one that's out sick be out for a little while but we have almost a full crew finally I don't know about the rest of you all but a new garbage truck is a must oh that's I agree they got to have equipment to work with so we need to find the money and it ought to be in the budget one a year if they only last five years we ought to be getting one every year to replace what all of the ones that we got not work we have two side loaders and one rear loader the rear loader is a 2015 or 2016 is it that's the one we use for a backup truck and they also use it to pick up handicap customers have y'all been downtown have y'all been looking about where how to get this thing bought a little bit of AR money there's about 280 left of AR and we have to have it all spent so that could that portion could be allocated towards it and the truck still available the not use one the of yesterday and I told him you know we're you know no decisions could be made until tonight and if we went with a new truck the earliest we would get it name you're talking three but you get the this other one tomorrow Poss possibly available now is my point it's available now talk with our shop because I want to get a decent truck I don't want to be in the situation right now with the garbage trucks we have that we've had issues with almost day one I want to get one A different that's going to last longer how much this demo demo 375,000 375 so we're talking about 95 difference we got to come up with besides Ara raise the rates what raise the [Music] rates you say we have 280,000 280,000 what would you um get the money for the um water gas I was already factoring out if y'all approved that that's how much would be left after the after you take yes ma' okay so we have 280 if you approve yes how much just John maybe you know maybe you don't how much Daniel maybe you know how much a private company charg to do the same service we're doing have no idea 37 a month I get once a week picked up work 22 for twice a week 23 Force 23 we're not trying to make a profit I do understand but we're also trying to maintain the service do want you SC on garbage rates $ a month per per custom that's what I me out reses somewhere we got 13 million bank money there well how much is money costing right now to borrow for government seven or eight we got to have great pration request we had obious last well we're have one a budget and we're less than 90 days in this budget and we're talking about a carage truck why was it was first I know it was I thought it was in there last year it for this year I in there i' to find a better way to pay for it than that of our funds it was put in there he was hoping to get a grant and that's all F and dandy but we're at the point right now we need something now if we have to wait for Grants you're looking how long are you going to wait for a grant I mean we we need something now not a year from now well the Grant and ask any if I wait till October you don't know time you approve it then it's going to be another you know six nine months to a year make a motion that we go ahead and try to get this one this demo truck because it may not be available later and we'll find the money we'll find the money is that too lat second for discussion you second it yep for discussion for discussion or C whatever what we're going to do is because that's the only place there's any money is we're going to charge you for water to pay for garbage we not raising any more r no I didn't say I didn't say that taking it the water take it out of the water place but now we just uh what we spend about 100 Grand on this uh lobbyist it'll be 3 to 4,000 a month why can't we just get a lob just for months or something I don't know if just but anyhow that's the only place you got money well in this budget I said we find the money somewhere let's go ahead and order the truck we'll know by April about the lob whether not it we have to allocate you use that to make up to from water okay so the 280 from AR the rest and then if a lobbyist gets us a second truck we'll be happy that if not it'll be in the budget come October so second is good for discussion you with discussion have you finished with discussion council member Bryan Yes council member Hampton yes council member wood yes vice mayor Landry yes mayor C yes good thank thank you we don't want y'all to know either I I'm GNA say something while they're sitting right here I cannot ask for a better group of guys I'm B to have a woman to work with me too but I can't they do whatever is asked of them they don't complain they might not like but they get out there and do it and I feel like they're the most unappreciated and I'm not just saying that I've said it for years and I want to thank y'all for what y'all do thank you yeah doesn't have air condition driving first 7 7K and 7M okay we'll table that till hang on just a second M Miss Earley asked if we could M Shirley ask we could table item 7K and 7M till the January meeting first meeting in January we we t all right agend J and J and wait minute hold on no no no not Jay K and M that okay ask about the code enforcement race period right in Shirley and Veterans Day no it's not coming around till November okay Merry Christmas St I guess I'll see you on 17th 16 16th Monday okay we're GNA take two minute break little no aw e that is what is it piing my fing every time I sit down on something like I say got I sit here and just peek at it you Binger dander [Music] we're going to call the meeting back to order agenda item 7j cancel to discuss letter authorizing city manager to sign FEMA subgrant agreement and be the authorizing agent and Council will take any action deemed necessary we need I motion to approve Council bran yes counc member Hampton oh sorry counc woodog yes vice mayor Landry yes mayor Katherine yes and agenda item 7K we agreed to table to the January 1 January meeting agenda items 7 L councel to review competitive Florida partnership Grant agreement and councel to take any action de necessary that's that downtown partnership with downtown strategies y already approv it the signature on the grant finalize the grant agreement motion to approve second council member Brian yes council member wood yes vice mayor Landry yes mayor K yes agenda okay agenda it 7M we also agreed to table it till the January 1 meeting of January agenda item 7 in resolution 2024-25 budget amendment water gas route manager system so on Friday we found out from our financial Software System that the route manager software that we use which is what they use to read the water and gas meters won't integrate with our system unless they upgrade and it if we don't integrate theirs we wouldn't be able to use the new Financial system they didn't realize that I guess until until we're this deep we already motion to approve second council member Brian yes council member wood yes vice mayor Landry yes mayor ketan yes Council to discuss Christmas bonuses and Council will take any action necessary what was the cost of, 2,610 I can that was the cost last year that's the cost no that's the cost for the upgrade Ohr those reader units or just new software always going to be something that's not going to fit anytime we do a software upgrade especially after 30 something years and and the handhelds they use are I said we're playing ketchup we are it's expensive okay Christmas bonuses huh what was done in the p$ how much is that last we did Cash Car said we can't do that again she got mad at me but we'd like to do I was prefer go a little higher than 100 to make it 100 on your actual check 115 Whatever It Is What It times 80 90 how many yeah 9092 I think prob take but to Corner yeah you're right Mo will be 10 give take have a second where we don't get the money we don't get the money from positions that have been bacen thank you kind like you done this before I'll second council member yes council member with yes mayor Landry yes mayor P yes agenda agenda agenda out of 17 coun to discuss a consider a mutual Aid agreement with the tayor County Sheriff's Office and take whatever action deem necessary motion to approve it's an [Music] annual agre second council member bran yes council member wood yes vice mayor Landry yes mayor kin yes agenda item 7 Q Council to discuss and consider 8 agreement between municipalities and Shariff offices located within the third judicial circuit Mutual Aid agreement and take whatever action deemed necessary motion to approve counil bran yes Council Hampton or sorry Council wood yes vice mayor Landry yes mayor ketan yes agend 7R approval of the minutes from the November 12th 2024 regular session motion to approve thank council member Bryan Yes council member wood yes vice mayor Landry yes mayor ketan yes John we did get another Grant from Depart of Commerce I told you phas one had six projects in it for the Wastewater collection system we took one of those projects and submitted the Florida commerce through the rural infrastructure fund and it got approved a day or two ago I think good deal so that's all right 1.4 12 million 1% we'll get there my hey piece by piece um it's not do but the people working for DOT did finish that road breing project rating it's pretty neat they showed it to me yesterday wer better shap than I thought really there was only four roads that were to work rated condition they were short short little roads I'll show that with Y probably next meeting that's that camera system they were using M but it happens researching Road next we can go straight for the work Road and you got to argue about who District Road in and all that things are getting better and better appreciate all of y'all John's leadership and everybody working together to make it happen really do you got anything else all right Miss um happy Merry Christmas um I would ask I was going to talk about today um more following up with the zoning as well as looking at opportunities to um enforce some of the potential property um bus that are um over past du and determin which ones will be more profitable than others um but also I was needing Amy who I didn't know would be out of town this week um to assist in that presentation as well as um I was looking into the whole search for the building inspector agreement or agreement with the county regarding who gets a part of the fees um and interesting enough no one's able to find that and everyone saw the newspaper was it last week that the building inspector that is part-time that's declared the counties um he is um leaving in January the bill official official yeah John John Perkins is inspector he's he staying oh building official yeah oh his last St December 20th no problem um okay so that's he told us D wa January he told us December 20th either way he's yeah what is John licensed to Do's inspector so that means there's a residential inspector there's a commercial inspector there's this there's about five or six different ones and then there's the king of all of them what can John do we're going to be in a mess my understanding is that they have I think maybe contracted out I'm not 100% sure but some a lot of it's going to be done virtually and I'm not sure if he coming in the office how do inspect no not inspect building the building official building but he's the one that um approves the plans and things like that they just email it and I guess whatever sure how it's work that's their back still trying to hire yeah they may be but for right now that's what but in the in in the end where we going to get the money so we pay half of it or something they get all the impact they get all the understand and I know that because of the economy and just the delinquency of so much find are duee but my goal would be to aim for a lot of the properties that are now owned by some type of corporate figure or that could possibly the people who most likely be able to afford and would agree potentially to a reduction um to agree to pay off if we were able to reduce some of these really crazy bonds like $50,000 or $60,000 because something is better than nothing um it may not happen the first few opportunities but if there is enough there that that's brought in that can maybe help justify some costs maybe um this is been sitting dormant um also I wanted to share just an update um regarding the sellers property and Manning property that was settled earlier this year um they did pay the price of the property they did get an appraiser and they put down the corner marks the last thing that was supposed to be done before we we um release the warranty lead was um their offered to um put a privacy fence up and I've been contacted by their attorney John black Mr sellers has lost his job been unemployed in the last two months so um he's not been able forward to do privacy fits um and um we're supposed to be you know um and originally that wasn't even an offer that was sort of like an exchange mediation thing um the benefit is that we still until that's done the warranty D won't be turned over but I wanted to make the council aware just there was any objection um it seems like they're made they've made a really good big effort I know there was a lot of doubt that they would even pay the little amount that was um offered property um and I do understand the the groups may be back hanging out in the back over in that place but I just want to make you aware and the last thing um I went to the Florida legislative Florida League of cities legislative conference um and um it was really really good and I would love and I will get with um um chief of police regarding Code Enforcement Training um just the different nuances that may be able to assist I know people complain about everything all the time but I'm even curious to the process that you know that Mr Griffin um and other code enforcement officers have gone through um but we had this one positive moment which I thought was really great for all his words um during the emergency response session um Mayor John Daly of Tallahasse he gave Perry Florida a big shout out I can't help leave because he met me but he talked know the nuances of T has to be Inland dealing with tornadoes but he's like I can't complain because I see the resiliency of the communities east of us um like Perry Florida that has gone through three storms and the people are still working hard to rebu and he was like I know if any are here but I just think they're amazing so I just want to share that that there are people who are noticing and I can't help but think from everything to you know the continuation of things like the Christmas um event last week um to just how we continue to show up even though we know that there's a lot more to do that had nothing to do with the storm but it's only made more comptent by it and I just thought it was cool that those you know that Community others were recognizing certain counties that have a much more um handicapped with all that they've gone to in the last 13 months so but that's off now very good thank you Carly um we're still working with the new Financial system and they pushed back our Utility Billing go live date um just about half a month but into the middle of December so they're thinking our first billing cycle will be January 1st with the new system but that wasn't anything to do on our end it was on the financial systems end so hopefully they won't push us back again there go so how how's it working safe Opera get or it's good I mean it's had a lot of you know they didn't pull stuff over correctly and we had to get that and then having to do all the journal entries from the but I mean that's expected in new are but we're liking it much better good deal very good Jamie Chief Jamie um Saturday we held our 14th shop for the cop program we were able to raise enough money through all the disasters from the community and a few other places where we actually paid give each child $150 and we had 53 we benefited wow um we had three that didn't show from illnesses in the family or transportation problems whatever um and we did have the most ever um on this is we had kids that were selfless and did not buy things for themselves but for family or food for their house or offsetting expenses so they take something to a school party because their family couldn't we even included some about 10 families from Ste hatch as well that lost their houses um so it was a countywide effort this time usually we try to keep it within the city but we saw a big need down on the coastal areas uh I'd like to thank Lynn for helping with this one this year he did a lot more work than he usually did does job of the college um but he helped me tremendously with this and I appreciate that and we had a we had a huge turnout with our officers uh we had Department Corrections that came as well the fire department sent a couple of people TR count um Tri County came and helped shop with the kids um it was a big event um we even had donations Shoppers that were there not related to our event come and donated to it for next year already so that's good it was it was a good to see it was very positive um time and if you're not familiar we don't let the parents go with the kids we don't want them influencing their purchases because we want them to buy something for themselves and um it was money well spent and um and this is all through donations um for um the officers as well if you'll notice I haven't shaved in a few days um it's $50 I love that do it and it's a donation to shop with a cop for $50 you can gr it for three months and then um they all like doing it for some reason May some of us I mean them even pay our money and don't yeah this just all white now for some reason but we had two officers that have um taken an unofficial challenge amongst themselves they're competing and they've raised $3,000 by themselves just through friends and family and a few other people good good and I appreciate that um that the commitment the community's had to help us with that and this last 14 years our first year we had 22 kids and it was $50 so we've grown tremendously we're setting a goal next year to do even more does the school help pick the kids we don't pick any of the kids it's all through the schools Boys and Girls Club yard ad L them sometimes participates they have access to the financials for the families that we don't have so that's that's how it's based they submit the names and we make sure that unfortunately it's a little better for us if we don't do yeah and they do so we we try to take us out of it completely and just help the kids it is great program it is should come next year didn't know when it was it snuck up on us too whole year we had going on kind of snuck up on us we it was last second get some things done but we're able to do it how many did you say you have 53 oh and I left at Walmart they were great um they actually helped cover some overages on some of the other kids they they actually fed all get breakfast um too as well so yeah get them enough sugar energy to do their shopping anticipation that sound to we had it was a good event we had a good time good the problem we had is we have enough people to go shopping with them um we had we had a few that had to wait a little longer than they should have so we're going to try to get some more people involved to help shop so we're changing it from shop to toop to Heroes and helpers as that's where we're going with it so thank the line um that we're here helping restore power um Department of Corrections fire department um so we're kind of making that transition um to name it that and just keep moving good deal thank you Chief RV um first of all thank y'all for attempting to get us a fire station it's uh will be well deserved and well appreciated if it go through uh I have put in for some more afg grants uh for bunker gear for tools for the trucks and uh another one I put in for another truck again this year so all that's been uh sent in wait and see what we get other than that I'm Merry Christmas thank sir we got another meeting got another meeting I might not be there I feel like I'm getting sick Daniel well I want thank y'all for garbage truck I know my guys appreciate it but the only thing I have is um a Miss Kia Hill was requesting a speed bump on schwar Street I've done the surveys got 100% back and for our policy they have to have at least 75% so I've got 75% so now the policy says if y'all approve the need for the speed bump then a survey must be conducted which I know we don't have the our equipment but John had mentioned in one of our me possibly do might help us to reach out do if that's something y'all approve for us to go to the next step what Streetz Street and they use that as a from the dead end to racing track if you remember somebody shot our data collector and destroyed it when we didn't op to purchase another one when we had it so our next step if y'all something y'all want us to pursue would be do that um the speed survey and then once we do the speed survey then it will come back to you all you we'll have to decide about money and things like that s like the neighborhood wants it they do so okay I don't really know we don't need a vote just no okay just the policy so yeah gotcha Andrew is not here Sean you got anything else um we had a generator go down during Helen and run for like two days and apparently had a hose leak the the electronics on the generator didn't protect itself like it didn't shut itself down at temperature it was supposed to um we we have a rental we had a rental in its place uh provided by FEMA I was told that by Emergency Management I I sent in a mission request to have it repaired um I haven't heard anything back on it yet but I was told that um it was likely that they may do it um it was it was also turned in on our insurance I think um for damages um during Helen um the only thing that may prevent it is we don't have a lot of Maintenance records on it like like like City Garage really didn't have any there was a third party that was maintaining maintaining them um there was really no issue with the oil or anything like that um it wasn't over its hours but uh everything I've looked at says a generator has to be changed once a year so that's something let to start doing instead of going by the hours and um like I say we the three the three backup generators we have at the plant one's about 5 years old one's 20 and one's 41 years old so um whenever we do have the grant for upgrading the treatment plant facilities that'll probably be part of a that'll be a project that we probably do if we could upgrade generator plant um but hopefully the through the EOC and the mission statement maybe we can get it repaired like I said it's very important what what the particular generator does that fail clean water we collect it sends a good spray fuel that's Miles and Miles Away um that's got to work it all has to work but that's really got to work [Music] so but I mean everything's good plant um but I just want to try to get that resolved at least have a plan or a deadline um has to be fixed and hopefully we can get some assistance on especially you know since it happened during during the storm like said it ran two days fine but like I say combination of things it had a hose leak and the radiator cap was old and it was leaking like I say it didn't protect itself it didn't shut itself down little head get I was we had we had rain power come out and diagnos it and they they had exhaust gas radiator appreciate it Sean thank you Garrett and Garrett G problem we're still installing generators and then parks department um I've been trying to keep up with everything by myself and I don't have a parks department employee but I've been trying to keep the bathroom clean as much as I can but I mean we're still waiting on the parts for the this Flash Pad the other one should be just about ready I mean it should be ready by springing on that one for sure as long as we get the par here in time for this one it'll be ready as well all right ever get a new employee he's hasn't started yet now but I found someone to start okay okay hope in the next week or two good appreciate it name Mr Bill L of 19 on the agenda's adjournment they have a motion it stack up yeah there's a lot of cities I come to find out and do one Madison does Cross City does