then you need to probably get better and everything i don't Oh yeah i think you need to get over here i think I think every council meeting here at that Tuesday morning
meeting table yeah what was the one last time no I didn't want any Yeah ma'am that they just proclamation for sexual Oh we just
presented just read it out last i think he read that first paragraph but not the entire thing read it out or say thankful [Music]
may been 24 you're welcome that's just [Music] the absence of Mr ket call this meeting to order it's a regular
meeting the uh regular city council meeting for April the 8th 2025 um we'll open with prayer and Miss Shirley's going to leave we thank you for your grace your mercy father we thank you for blessing this
meeting today i ask that you'll touch the city council members Lord God as they prepare to do your work i pray that you give them wisdom knowledge and understanding of what it is that you would have them to do and to serve this community we thank you for every person that is here in representation we just
want to say thank you for your love the grace and your mercy yes Lord amen to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible
with liberty and justice for all for Rose Hall please council member Brown here council member H council member Wood here vice Mayor Landry here mayor Pet i do have
a motion to approve items on the consent agendas second all in favor say I council member Bry council member Hampton yes council member Woodfolk yes vice Mayor Landry
yes u so tonight we will look at ordinances 1050 and 1052 um 1050 is an ordinance of the city of
Perry further amending the city of Perry Municipal Police Officers Retirement Trust Fund restated by ordinance number 881 as subsequently amended amending section five contributions amending section six
I thought I had to read it by title only I When I get there I read it by title only yes when you get there good i won't do that right now okay learn as you go that's what this is at this time we'll receive requests from
the general public if you have uh something you'd like to state come to the microphone we welcome you to this meeting it's a time set aside for our citizens of the general public to address the council on any matter not included on the agenda it's not a
question or answer time it's a it's not a political form it is a time is not a time for personal accusations or derogatory remarks to or about council or city personnel if you want to address the council please come to the podium
when you're calling speak to the microphone and state your name and address for the record please also limit your comments to not more than five minutes for individuals and 10 minutes for groups or delegations is there anyone who would like to speak to the council at this time that's not on the
agenda hello my name is Ernest and I am refuge house i'm the sexual violence coordinator for refuge house serving Taylor Jefferson as well as Madison County and this week we just want to um show our support to survivors of sexual
violence um we want to get the word out and let everyone know that um this month April um is sexual violence awareness month and so if I could just read something from the National Sexual U Violence Resource Center just showing
you um what the theme of this year's um is so that we can come together as a community and the theme is together we act united we change this year's theme highlights the importance of working together to address and prevent sexual
vi sexual abuse assault and harassment this campaign focuses on enhancing public understanding of sexual violence amplifying the voices of survivors and empowering us to work together to promote the safety and well-being of others everyone in our communities
deserves to live in a safe and supportive environment where they are treated with respect when our workplace schools and communities work together to uphold safety and respect we make progress in preventing sexual abuse assault and harassment we act with
purpose education is the first step to action empowering our communities to be part of the solution this campaign works to shift the ways our communities understand talk about and respond to sexual abuse assault and harassment we
can challenge harmful misconceptions and foster safer communities by learning and acting together this campaign also seeks to unite us in uplifting the voice of survivors particularly those most vulnerable in our communities to build a
stronger movement this campaign aims to develop a movement where younger generations feel included and encouraged to participate and shape a better future and this week um tomorrow refuge house will be having a um chalk for block so
that if anyone would like to get out and just write a positive message using the chalks to let the world know that you know the tedar county city of Perry we support survivors of sexual abuse sexual assault and to thank you all for showing
your representation in the community and having them to know that they do have support in this community um and then also on the 24th if you would like to join us again and just showing your support for survivors you can actually take a lap around Rose Head Park Lridge
Park anywhere throughout the city just take a little quick snapshot of yourself showing that you're taking a little lap you're also getting a little healthy little exercising at the same time so I will be taking a lap at Loft Ridge Park and I will also be out here to Rose Head Park just taking a lap so if you all
would like to join me that I would greatly appreciate it but just showing your support for survivors of sexual assault in our community and my favorite chief over there thank you always for your service in this community is always wonderful and also um the 21st to the
24th if you know any nurses who may be interested in becoming a nurse we have information on refuge Facebook page and they can also visit their website um it's a it's a weekl long training from 8 to 5 so if you're interested as a nurse that would like to you know show um your
support and actually serve as victim of sexual assault that is a great training opportunity for you all if someone is actually interested so and again I want to say thank you thank you thank you for always welcoming Refuge House and allowing us to come before you and to just tell you the wonderful things oh
and also Lauren Walk she will Lauren Book she will be in Tallahassee on April 30th if you're interested in walking to the capitol that will be their final destination the walk will begin at 10:30 I think registration begins and then they're going to actually trick it on up
to um the cap i know you all have seen Lauren Book in our community before just a wonderful person so those are a couple of things that you all may do if you're interested in showing your support to survivors of sexual assault thank you all thank you you we have uh in
recognition of that we have a proclamation the city of Perry I won't read the whole thing because I think it was read at the last meeting but um um recognizing the whole month of April as sexual assault awareness month thank you
for bringing that yes do we need to move those boxes one two one two three one more one
two three put your ribbons that's for domestic um agenda item 6A wait no bids and RFQS um I don't think we have
any tonight do we okay and the general business item 6A Montre Irvin wanted to address the council he's not here okay moving to 6B the council is to discuss
select and select continuing engineering based on RFQ rankings and take any actions being necessary mr john would you like to present that yes packet
[Music] yesterday they give me the last couple references they were doing they br all the firms that RFQ I think was
Where are they from where are they from we have city 22 offices that's the Are you with that firm now okay 73.2 and then CPH was
third was 71.8 the other two [Music] burn that had a really bad review um well it was what you call a bad review if
if we've asked for information and they don't give us that information that's bad review and we've had that on two of them this was CPH you're referring to i I see
This Minadir guy they have pretty good reviews but he I think they're smaller group they don't have a whole lot of experience which one's that oh well yeah they didn't submit all the information were you present
Bill bill were you present did you go were you at that meeting what were you at the meeting when they were No they were here for about five hours going through all of them here in this room then they took the whole week to do the
um references what the way I view this what we got here is we like our mother hard questions were not in here uh
but I would if he wasn't here and I didn't know him I wouldn't I wouldn't support any of them i'd go on to interviews each one of them myself well I thought you were
going we thought you were going and uh I got no problem making the selection tonight i think last time we talked about hiring hire negotiating with three of them and
then enter contracts well I got no problem doing that either uh that's the normal way you do it uh interview three of them one two three pretty clear in the rankings what the
last three were yeah and that's CPH NF and Aurora here no I won't be here tomorrow won't be here tomorrow won't be here next meeting where are you
going i'm in it so CPH and NPS NFPS okay i'm sorry for the last time was because my lost two
employees okay i'd like to go ahead and contract for all three of them let's get the ball rolling i got I got a sitting there need the engineer go ahead motion
second go ahead and let me start negotiating well the first three first three i I interviewed the first three interview interview the first three is that correct is that what the motion is
i'll say interview and start the contract process i'm not going to sign a contract y'all sign it here but I want to get the ball rolling i don't want to interview and then you come to the next meeting can you could present the contract that doesn't mean we've signed it until we
Okay all right so that's the motion for the sake of clarity we're making a motion to start the interview process on the top three will present the contracts at that meeting you made the motion you made the second okay council member Brian yes council
member Hampton yes council member Wood yes vice Mayor Landry yes i am very impressed sir all that for us will you get us a copy of these
yeah when you want to meet everybody or just me and you up to them you appointing you to go represent the
motion next i mean we can slow down it here tomorrow tomorrow no I won't be here i'll be I'll be with that tomorrow see if they got availability end of this week thursday or
Friday that work okay item 6 C city manager shall prepare and submit to the council 5-year capital improvement or revision or extension thereof on or before April the 15th of the current fiscal year and the council
to take any actions deemed necessary probably change every day until I think July would have to be finalized it's already changed since the one you have in your hand but not by a whole lot what do the um the dark spaces on here
what is that those were ones that were already awarded in the current i can leave that once we get it finalized but I'll just keep in my mind what's what we're Okay right now so they've already been awarded yes okay [Music]
i've started taking them off but I know that they're coming off that's just a reminder to me if I need to push them back to the next year not Well this is for 2425 right current yes so those are But this CI is for 25 through 30
yeah that column come off when it in July that's just a placeholder for me okay and when you do it next time well I guess you've already got it i was going to say can we get a bottom line but we've got a bottom line I guess
i don't know looks kind of low to me i guess What was it what was it last year what was it this girl that's I'm swear
24 it's 18 for this year right 31 total 35 years okay well I take think take think about five years i can only think about it one year at a time no it's not low you're right it's it just when you first look at it it's
like 32,000 and it's not it's 32 million okay i said this is this a dream which says ain't no way we're getting all of this funed that's what I'd like to see right that was my question
the only the only way we'll get improvements at the parks is if you get grants or two applications for
that all these this what the grant is Place structures football field water fountains renovate fields bleachers big renovation basketball courts fair basketball had exercise
equipment place That's pretty much for the guess some place to go they were not last year last year
I would think these two perhaps we approved this cycle that's Andy East one put those in for us same one that's been helping us with the CDBG okay you know and we have the lobbyist now that's they're up there to tell you where to draw that line what gets funded
and what since this is a wish list here over 12 years and I've been advocating an aquatic I talk about it
depending on where we are what the council would be interested in they would be interested that could be a job for him too right he specializes in CDBG and Fred got to find what category falls in
who does that kind of work the only thing I don't like about that is it's it's a lot of ongoing cost maintaining it and whatnot yeah but we we can also bring in income It's not dead we just have to do
everything ourselves for i'll put it on there see what's out there we hear that every time we think about it something comes up and I know it might not be done in
five years but maybe in six years a repeated what's the main thing that you were asking for aquatic center aquatic center i could just be a very nice
big swim but aquatic center is much better this is just something you plan yeah I understand i'm just trying to figure out what you're talking about of what an aquatic center is okay as opposed to
Whoa they are nice and and I think it will bring in people if you all remember I think America we were supposed to be using part of that tag for amenities
and we have not spent a day okay put that on our training list okay I see you've got repaid in Steven Street on here that was the first one on that previous list we had that is the worst one
probably the city i'm just wondering if that's enough money to do season that was the estimate it's short a billion yeah it's short is short but it's bad that's its should
be with the landfill underneath it what we deal with over on the south side in B got one over there too every time they build them up gradually it goes back down the only way to fix is dig it
out land anybody got any comments about this questions not ready to vote on it he's just presenting it to us tonight and he'll update you good work appreciate it thanks for
dreaming on 6D is a SRF amendment to loan agreement WW262270 approval and the council to take any action deemed necessary it's probably approved
previously the um acred interest went up went up I think like $1750 yeah it was 150 now that's 16750 because the number changed we got to get it the addendum
sign motion council member Browns yes council member Hampton yes council member Woodfolk yes vice Mayor Landry yes okay item 6E is the first reading ordinance to amend Perry Municipal
Police Officers Retirement Trust Fund Council to take any actions deemed necessary is this where I read no before you read could we have some discussion on this because this is my
first time a war hearing of this on changing Yeah changing invested from 10 years eight years is there a study done on that one that was something that was done by the
board that exists now the chair and the officers i was not involved in that i have no idea how this came about this is something that was done through them through the U management company the retirement board and the
officers i have no control over that i do know that they did have some studies done but as far as what was done and who did it um I have no
idea a few meetings ago someone was supposed to come here to discuss this and if the chair never came discuss it I think what a note of the city yeah I I've heard
there's no cost to the city it's going to be an increase in what the officers contribute to the fund to accomplish this so the council have to say so on this you have it has to be you have to
have you got to have two meetings and a public hearing right so do the officers have representation on that board yes okay hear that presentation that never happened i forgot about that yeah the
presentation never happened i would hold off on this till you hear what the I don't name Patrick don D O N L he's with Foster foster he's with
Donnie that's right yeah i think that's the before they can this can be done they have to have an actuary done to determine the feasibility and the cost and all that has has been well said since somebody wrote the ordinance and
that'd be the attorney for the board i just know that we approved 20 years for retirement and then be able to come back and start all over again that's the way I pray
so now you I I understand that folks that that was too different that was I understand that i understand that so now we want to change from being vested for 10 years to eight yes
this is more in line with what the state's doing with their retirement okay but I'd like to see more i agree it needs to be presented yeah just Okay so we're going to table that until Well this is just the first reading anyway right uhhuh yeah that needs to be a
presentation okay i think we should get a presentation before we proceed i won't table that until we get a presentation what you're saying yeah well you got you
got 20 years and you start over again and then that second time to retire with eight years instead of be less than eight years instead of 10 to me it seem they can
stop that's just my thought okay and well I haven't read this i don't know so we'd have to hear that presentation but I think the remployment after retirement would stay at 10 years but I'm not sure yeah but it it's just
so unfair to others employees who can't do anything okay so we're tableabling that until we have a presentation from the board we will let them know i think it's really dangerous
job i say I think you are also a dangerous job we got stuff at the works too but it ain't that ain't what we looking for not going to cost nothing can you understand huh can you give some
back i don't know i fig you dig some out your pocket and put in retirement for I don't think she'd want to do that had his money i'd go ahead and retire thank you okay moving right
along to item 6F first reading ordinance for purchasing regulations updates and council to take any actions deemed necessary this is an ordinance of the city of Perry amending financial matters of the
city to update purchasing regulations repealing all ordinances in conflict here with and approving an effective date open for discussion this is just the ordinance to update the
purchasing manual that I presented a few meetings ago since I wasn't here last week I didn't or last week I didn't want to put it on any discussion do I have a motion to accept think you need one yet this is the first
reading first reading yes second reading what second reading you have a motion okay to accept okay moving right along okay I could still ask if there was any discussion on it not save time the next
time okay item 6G council to appoint one citizen to serve on the Perry Police Ben Pension Board of Trustees and take any actions deemed necessary we're in negotiation with a couple people but they haven't agreed that financial disclosure thing it scares people scares
them yeah okay 6h same thing for the Perry Fire Pension Board of Trustees you have somebody We have one that entered that joined last week but uh one of them that
was on the board decided he didn't have time to he changed jobs he was working at the mill now he's he's working out of town he didn't have the time to show up
took me from say he's had to resign from it so now we got another open Well what about the first one though that that that you were dealing with you mentioned Erica she she's accepted it she's okay
so you've only got one position we only got one position okay we filled one that made us full and then the same meeting we lost one okay and so we keep putting that on the
agenda do we get get it filled up okay uh six I approval of the minutes from the March 25th regular session any comments or questions motion second roll call
second Matt mr council member Brown yes council member Hampton member Wood yes vice Mayor yes okay we have report they're going there looking i
thought on one of these signs you talked about last time there really isn't a great spot to put it either i was thinking the one off the right of the road you know is that on north this is from the north
that's right close to Faith Baptist Church yeah that's what I thought you ain't going to fit it right in here sidewalk you're not going out to their property the other one isn't much better you only have a little bit
of shoulder before it drops off they recommended we do a a sign in the medium so they've been doing that quite a bit they gave us some options what's this one
oh that's pretty so you have something in the middle of the median and on the back side it'll say "Thanks for visiting for the ones going out of town." Oh that's nice that's really nice we like parts of this one and parts of
this one not really the color of that one just the shape the shape of it think I like that one better myself with the light from the ground i think up on it this one would have it too yes
from the ground i think it's already in our logo anyway you said you don't so white that's going to be possible to keep clean well and the brick goes along with some
of the other stuff that we've got yeah I really like that look it speak up here and down here these are easily sold on pretty sure you can the last time we
had was closer by um Pardon me no supervisor of the election office i think the hurricane took it out it was in that substation power substation city no it wasn't that was just a
parish city i know he talked about we tal about getting one before but we had a hard time finding her face a lot
I like it or something like that can I see the other FBA that's really classy i like that this one but a little darker whatever they make out of it mhm let's see
what's the difference in the price of that one and the second one they're going to design it for so we can put it up for bid they'll get the price a little bit more it looks about the same brick material
make that first two so what did they recommend we do tell them which one you like better any changes we want to make to it they'll they'll draw it up in a 3D rendering I think in our media or at least in a
media the same size and put that logo on the other side on the third side i was talking about the way you like somebody said this morning you go in that welcome kind of blends in
with the wind there yeah it stands out better there better that's going to stand out in the daytime at night that other one would look good i don't like that well that could be changed but I think keeping all those
those white pedestals white going to be a challenge look forward to this look and do something different what did that look like about a week we're driving here while I'm
seeing RB's fire station because I use the CDBG grant for purchasing the land i needed to update it i need a appraisal the bank for the land that I'll be like had an appraisal but it's two years old that's not going to be
good enough i call that company they'll update it we don't uh we need to think about that a little bit i don't really care what RB likes i care what we could afford don't do the cheap and uh we can't
afford that especially when we've got someone willing to give us Jamie like that better for I do care about what they like i think he like that better for the police station where the person
well it's located that you thought about Mr bill acre i don't know yeah that's not there's not much be sufficient for that's the issue with the fire station well you can close
that street and I guarantee you can buy that other property for less than $800,000 next to it he's playing RB lights the banks will sell to us anymore the bank sits about right
here it's an old picture it's an old picture well I like it too but I don't think we can afford it like that taylor Community Madison County Taylor Community Branch okay oh look
okay furniture was Yes oh yeah that area there the new thing that I like about it it's got room for growth for years instead of having a department the fire department in one place and having any
kind of training facilities or anything else that we can get in the future having them in another place everything be on the same area yeah that was that's my whole argument by getting something big
enough that we can do everything in in one area it's pretty central it is i say that's a central location say another 8 to 10 years and I you know I want to keep building it yes
a training facility and all whenever we can yeah that open the door to get fire programs here also include the purchase price in the grant applications that's why I needed updated appraisal we don't get the land you can
get fire station what land cost and that was the first thing I mean that's what we were going for this year right was to get the land do the appropriations we're going for the design and construction
300,000 for the CDBG we're going for the actual land purchase and construction of the fire department it's Six points just total 5,958 1110 plus
so basically it's 6 million but also been told this is really competitive CDBG cycle the odds of getting this are very very low of getting it to that and any of any of
it yeah i mean there's only like 35 million in at this time and we're asking for a sh of that 6 whatever but not the appropriation not the appropriation i think she was asking is anything you'll have a pretty good idea
that we're doing i highly doubt the only thing in our favor was a really tight turn around to get this done it's due May 2nd it must be on top of the phone and their stuff ready i hope there's not a lot of applications in this
they definitely [Music] need like I'd like to put the fire station here and once we get all that finished move over to the police station here we got a 12in water man that run right through there we can't build
anything on top of it anyway unless we have the water line moved is that the bank is that great i drew the bank in about approximately where it is that's the bank this building exists yeah that's gone well that's the old
house okay the house is up top and Yeah the old building yeah okay thank you Street at 19 right there is that canopy yeah that's right there okay combining these
lots yep here and here closing this street will give you pretty good amount now what is that bacon in 19 right across from Munchies okay good i like that spot because it's got 1998
intersection right there yep yeah the sink location there you go this would be donated to us we probably have to purchase this one if we wanted to do the whole You put that police station there that'll beautify 19 also
that would be a new building there would be yes just that entryway into Jerry or exit yes that area can be so unsightly if that's where you were dropped off in the middle of and think this is buried you probably know me that's
and you put it there and stop a lot of the bad behavior also that very well too yes that's only one acre right there another half i guess a lot better than what you got now correct mhm
i don't think that'd be suitable for the fire station you have a good area i can hear you constituents you don't think it' be suitable why you don't have a lot of room to turn the truck around and pull through the bay yeah you got to have enough room to turn that truck you've been backing up in the
bay on a brand new station they already have to hold a screw down here when they're biking in yeah you have to come in a funny looking Mhm i rode around i got on the maps and I looked and that down by the bank is the
best property I can come up with quick access easy and you get to all your zones uh won't have to do any kind of u remodeling or whatever you want to
call it to the Jefferson Street won't have to take no curbs out or do anything there except for what you know maybe they on the side there where the drive where you drive in for the driveways
in And that'll also help if you guys get that ladder truck also and there's I'm working on something with a ladder truck also we might get real cheap or maybe even free okay
but I won't I won't know nothing on it till October this was looking real good do they It ain't a brand new truck but it ain't old it's in use right now they just having to There's a department down south that
is doing away with a a department oh okay okay got down mhm what happened to the plans of trying to put something downtown
land behind us wasn't you thinking about it wasn't me was that you probably that's why he wanted to purchase that property yeah i remember that that wasn't
anything where's your preference on 19 yeah I'd rather be on 19 somewhere on 19 um we've always talked about improving that area got a lot of old vacant lots or where
building used to be that have been tore down and just something as a catalyst to improve that area i rode by there today and just kind of glanced the back side of Munchies it's like a garbage dump back there
we have somebody working on that going back there it's going to remain uncovered well I don't know how you stop us from going but I mean on that property owner and that's where that's the route we're taking with
that yeah say it's all on that go on we clean up that area and now it's getting back the same way he's going to have to stop him from going to move from there and go somewhere else that's true
we keep running on it that's true say that we're doing something about it now I know y'all get tired of me but I live in this district i can hear it in my mind
now why did you choose this area to put station or why are you putting fire department ready in this area to me is all in a residential area
even though it's on 19 what's it on what's it own it's own commercial place it's in a residential area still i'm not against it but I know I'm going
to catch a lot of slack by um Well get that put it anywhere diane will you please I'm sorry i'll talk to John about it no I would love to hear what I would love to hear well
y'all know my voice about keep being interrupted discovered me you move that mic closer to help us hear you why didn't you say that in my district alone we have everything surrounding my
district all of the city smells all of the noise everything is located right in that century which is going to be good and it's going to have 19 but I
would like to have a public meeting on that before we decide and it's not going to stop us from doing it but at least we can give the public a chance to say something about
it wake up in the middle of the night over and over and over again you can't be very hard to sleep not to cut you off but but please um when it comes to the sirens at night we when you don't have that much traffic we try our best
not to even throw sirens on you might see the lights but you're not going to see the sirens unless you got somebody in front of you other than that they don't too much run them at night patrol officers should be hanging out at the station anyway they're not patrolling they going to turn they
should be in their zones okay and this is just the idea phase now this is just an idea phase we're not saying it's going to go there we're not saying we're build tomorrow it's just that's the location I think will be
beneficial for us because of the amount of accessibility it has i think it's beneficial that way and I'm thinking like the disasters we've dealt with in the last couple years we're probably not going to have a
tree blow down across the road there in front of that if we had it there there's not any trees there we're going to block the roadways but we can't get people in and out to help with assistance with so that's the things that I'm thinking about is where can we put a building to
support the law enforcement section of the city that we can help others without being blocked in um during one of the hurricanes I was out at the airport um we had to move because the EOC went down and the airport's the
backup we almost didn't get out of the airport because of the trees but if we had a facility that we could withstand those winds in we could leave quickly after the storm passes we won't have any trees down now I'm thinking about more than
just where I would like it to be where is it going to benefit the city and the residents the best and must be able to do our job so that's the consideration I have past what we Jamie and I both look at what's going to get us quickest
response time what's going to be the the best and easiest routes for us to get out and get headed to them because the response time on our ours calls are what's critical on structure fire
medical stuff like that you know that's seconds make makes a big difference yep so I mean that's why I chose the area i chose this
it's just straight out open you go quick access to anywhere that would help reduce the Well I'm not a guess i'm not a guest where they be
I think okay for the city to pay for the appraisal company that did it two years ago their fee was about to exceed 1,200 called another company to do a whole brand new appraisal they were 2,000 that's
it but you but you already got a price i got a price firm price they won't obey them for the application they won't take they won't take it to in theory in theory that's true but
in fact it'll never happen they told us they would work with us because you got to condemn it and you you don't have you don't have the votes to condemn somebody's property
period well that's what you're going to have to do to do what I don't understand you get a better deal and real estate ain't ain't in the market like it was back in 2023 when that's what they want for it well
and the only way you get it is unnecessary it's appraised for more than what what they're asking for and the ground will pay the appraisal we get less than appraise whatever they come up with when I was negotiating with them they told me
whatever the appraisal value was it would be under that a substantial amount of under so I feel like if we come back and it's the appraisal values a lot less than what it what the last appraisal is I feel like they'll work with us
then they didn't really have it up for sale but they like the idea of the fire department moving there so they was like "Okay you know we'll sell it to y'all uh under the appraisal value." The appraisal value is
like 950,000 i said around 800,000 about $150,000 less than appraisal value i'm sure you know if we go back to them and say "Well don't appraise 700,000." You know they might say "We'll drop it down to 700,000." They might say
"Well you know we'll give it to you for 500,000 who knows we won't know until we we do that [Laughter] this application may second I believe
maybe that's we got to agree on something because if not it's just going to keep putting us behind the eightball when it comes to these grants it's good to have the highest value submitted with application found a better piece of land that's just bullish i'd rather have the higher
number go into the application my mind got confused so you want us to give you permission to buy this land no no get it appraised get it appraised that's it no stage of praises
this is just until you get Okay the city will never pay $1,000 here uh no it says 48 i think it's 4.9 i wish we could use the
land on the road yeah that that'll be outside your zone i know i know we got it on there that down i love that so what's the next step you need us to make
motion have a motion yes do I have a second second discussion where you going get the money everybody else takes it
well we got to set priorities you got some things you got to go ahead yes the thing with this is now is the time because he doesn't get a okay on it it's going to put us behind i don't have a second
discussion i think discussion was had now council member Wood yes vice Mayor Landry yes with the county and all that we got the same doge letter all the municipalities and counties
got so we well responded put my name on it [Music] pretty much said we're I mean we're always in budget yeah we don't need that we responded that you know with
hurricanes and whatnot sometimes like last year in certain funds it looked like we're negative but if you look at it by the hurricane that is the majority of just to try to be clear with them
we're playing hard to see what it looks like oh we don't need them we don't need We don't need them no we need every staff member we got yes
there and wrapping the economic development strategic plan they've asked all the city council members to be there and then attend at least one of these workshops held throughout April y'all be at the county complex
tomorrow and one of these meetings that's at 4 isn't it yeah 4 p.m okay should have I don't Okay attorneys do you have anything yes um I just wanted to share just some of
the some very little of the um the experience with legislative action days it happened um at the end of March which is why I wasn't at that meeting and John when I spoke to him he's like oh I forgot he said or he didn't know that the dates were the same dates i think
you over yeah so um Mayor War Ketering went to the mayoral track and I went to the legislative track that had um excuse or just I guess city officials track so um and I particularly was with the Northwest Border League of Cities and
the Swany River League of Cities that were a part of so there were people like in Bristol u they had council members city clerks mayors they I think they brought their whole front office with them um places like Cresby Caribel Midway Niceville Pensacola that was the
group um that we were in and it was actually Florida League of C's largest um group of officials that came on that day they had 300 and we had um meetings with different senators and representatives i feel like um Senator Simon and Representative Schae was one
of the more popular um so unfortunately even though we were waiting to speak um or we had different assigned times to speak with people um we were waiting forever but we did get to see a number of people which I think is helpful always because you know for anything to
pass and to get through appropriations it has to be voted on by everyone so I did um we did meet with about eight of senators and reps i particularly like um not that it matters if I like him but
Representative Manny who he's also known as Judge Manny he used to be um I'm sorry he used to be a judge um and he I love the fact that he just talking about his history there every bill that he's ever um he ever um initiated or was
like co-founded with has always gotten passed and um he left that one i was particularly interested in where um our lobbyists felt he was and getting through the appropriations i know a lot of things are a long shot but I couldn't help while being there and at other meetings
they I say they the state continues to use the story of Taylor County and it's three hurricanes in a year or 13 months as like something to be concerned about even with NPR you read their forecast of legislation for this state and they
mention Taylor County by name under hurricanes it's the only county they mention so you know I hope it definitely works for our benefit even if it's a long shot that Taylor County would be one of those counties that get a long shot appropriations especially if
they're using our story and the fact that we're very um for the status reason very exemplary of the counties that have been so impacted economically not just with the hurricane but with um the closure of businesses um so I just want
to just talk a little bit about that particular um participation in those two and a half days um and just other things that have been going on that are not you know um they've been just referenced between myself and John Hart but um like
the Elks Club for instance we we're getting different like always um requests for information or clarification and the Els Club wants to do like bingo again and these 5050 raffles that are really popular now you guys know what I'm talking about because I didn't know what was what ones was
until going to a Red Hat Society where somebody gets like the whole pool of money 50% of the whole pool and they were just concerned of whether or not that was violating any local ordinance and I was like in my review of it it hasn't um but I just wanted to make you aware just in case there's something
about that that's disturbing to you or is getting too close to what gambling type of limitations we do have in the city um so and I'm looking into something with water and super puff that I just got information about yesterday
afternoon about just making sure some things they come in compliance with but um that's all I have to share for right now thank you thank you Miss Carly so we went live with our utility billing software on Friday
yes it's going good are you good i mean I'm very happy with it but it went smoother than I thought it was going to on Friday we only had a few issues we still have one receding issue that we're trying to work through with the implementation guy and it's just a lot
of back and forth with the software company and but hopefully everything linked correctly did you say it went in this past Friday yes yeah okay great so we'll be able to start slowly doing email
billing um we should have our new website to pay live within the next couple days i don't want to say but so when they go it'll actually like the new city logo they can pull it up by
their address instead of having to have their account number there's a lot of new things and we're learning a lot so as we learn more we'll try to put stuff out to the customers good good job my
question online behind all of the the cost the big clock on the current okay yeah is it is it the same way on online business m sure or was that changed i was I actually had the pleasure of
creating the first account for the new system for my own personal account to go in and pay it's a total white screen you don't see the city's actual website once you go into the Edmonds Gov Tech you have the City of Perry logo there's some verbiage there you put your account
information in you sign in it's all on there it doesn't have a picture behind it by now so white background just like a standard web page awesome so and I know Carly didn't get to see that today when we were doing it today so she wasn't going to know the answer to tell
no you're good so thank you and I don't live in the city so I don't I don't know how the old We used mine as a guinea pig account you did a good job that's it thank you very user friendly very user
friendly easy to do it's just like setting up any other account recreate a login and password put your information in it can save your payment method if you would like you can choose on your own if you want to do autodraft you have the options at your leisure okay so yeah
I'm going to do auto like a lot of the other companies that everybody uses very user friendly you can look at everything it shows you your bill it shows you the breakdown of it you can see all of the right you're good getting up to date
easier chief truce i don't have anything discussed about you Mr lee i think I've done discussed everything I needed to discuss thank y'all okay
street and Sanitation Department board danielle's done danielle water department nothing nothing everything's going great as smooth as we can at the moment had somebody hit a fire hydrant
out on Landry Road last week but that's been repaired yeah i saw one of I guess it's one of the fire hydrants and it was bagged in black um there's no bagged in black hydrants okay there's something bagged in black
that's a sign i think I saw it earlier too to be honest but okay up on Jefferson uh yeah mhm somebody's got a sign out by the road with a black trash bag over it i don't know pedestal maybe but it's not a fire okay
good maybe I thought maybe change from orange to black Halloween or something okay waste water man real quick please yep that gun never that manhole at end
of Drew Street how deep do y'all think that is not more than 10 ft from looking from here well if you count the steps you know it's about maybe 3 feet from the top at the most well that is about 12
foot deep 12 so so it's you know it's it's got quite a lot of debris in it we had a clog on 19 last week um and it basically affected close to city hall um the issue is we have an old
jitor well I should say that only reach about 500 ft some of those manholes are further apart than 500 ft the issue is now you say there's
they're 1,000 ft apart you go on this one get five you go on this one and get five well if this one's full of water we can't see the pipe you know we can't get in it one of my employees had to enter the manhole he went in like three different manholes probably six
different times just because of the way the manholes are and the size of our nozzle our grant for our back fell through um so we are in need of it andrew had the
idea today to rent a back truck to clean i got some quotes for that um but I'm just trying to make you aware of this because like when the capital outlay comes around we do have a back jet or combo truck in there they're not
cheap but city sanitary sewers never really been cleanly basically like we were lucky to get that relieved basically all that debris just flowed down to another
section out so um but but that's just you know um I I would like to have it going so we could relieve the clock because I I
hate y'all to call me and say "Why is this rolling why can't you do it?" just they don't have equipment um it's just there's so much debris sand grass it's just build up to the point we
were able to unclog it but it took we were out in 19 and drew to about 9:00 and then some the next day but um like I said all that material you saw he just basically went somewhere else every manhole there's two
manholes on 19 and two on Drew that would look exactly like this so is there equipment out there that will extract it yeah we just we just this called a combo truck it's a jet and
back truck basically as you jet you can use the suction of the truck to draw material out and we can take it to the plant and dump it in the drying beds and then from there put it in the dumpster and go to landfill i know we have some culverts
that have broken and the concrete looks to me like it would actually fall in to to a culvert how would you get that out well that's different from the sanitary
that's storm drain not a sanitary sewer they're two separate systems but the truck can be used for both for both okay we had plans to get a non CDL there's so much debris we want as big as we can get to hold as much
material as we can to save the trims back and forth but um and like I said even if we do rent a truck um I got a quote today it's like $4,000 for a week it probably takes a week just
to clean Drew Street so if we did it I would probably look to get it maybe close to two weeks to a month but you know we check the line it is flowing um so just we're just hoping we
don't cause problems somewhere else we hope it doesn't turn and go down the creek where we don't have a lot of access so we just want to start we want to get the ability to start drawing this stuff out and I don't know why but like I said the holes are so far apart mayor how far
would you say a manhole should be apart 500 ft yeah new standard between four and five so but I think you have something over so the the gener is you know if you're going to get one that's a
[Music] necessity some making some regulations into the future but it is you know 10 years of work with the
difference and I think the way you're seeing is somewhere you must start by uh then maybe you know come out with some resiliency they may they may come up
with USDA but they may not this is one of those things we're going to have to look at is motorized and a lot of people you know the grant fun income by global stuff so that's why
it's very hard to get things that has you know who but USDA comes in I think John I think the last one fell through this is a necessity but the if you look at the regulations
uh how the grant works this is the least scoring points item so that's why when you have bunch of other comes And then you may you know may want to put it in your CIP and you know have somebody else some other
projects get funded and then you can buy this but you know many cities have between three to five trucks and bigger city the smaller one I think you can go and start once a month so once every you know six
month good for your school system um we have some issues i think one of the areas near the creek where eventually you're going to pay for it mich the cheapest one was the 4,000 well
the I got one I rented from one other place they're all about They're roughly the same about the same um we just want the largest one we can get to do remove as much debris as we
can you know the issue would be we we could get a truck that's small but instead of making 10 trips to 20 so um that particular manhole right there is on Drew Street also and that's just pure grease and just years of mug and grime
how often do those supposed to get cleaned out they've never they've never been cleaned since they got installed as far as I know the city repair never has like a they don't have we never had a maintenance program like a jet cleaning schedule like I say you can jet but
you're just passing it to somewhere else it's just so John we I see we have it here on the capital outlay um for 256 are we is that for a grant or is that going to be where we're going to
purchase it we're looking at a grant for it all right okay how's that going to work with phase one 550,000 cameron yeah they'll phase one you can
clean at some point but then you can go to the next phase but eventually they will not pay for your anything we will get it clean through that grant eventually that that actually I think
you just got it so that needs to be moved forward this issue and then I think that's we're over we got a warning letter we're under now I think but we have a lot of sand in line too it's actually
damaged one of the main lift station pumps we we repaired it but it basically wore out prematurely just saying that's another reason we need the
[Music] clean the next five years they have a what is called every require you to clean 5% of your line [Music] every sound like since they got
installed so I think they once they put those requirements where will we get the money from on utility bills years ago no it's not a good year for that but I would say um one one of the
problems that I know like I remember city trying to buy a truck some few years ago the same truck is 400 20,000 550 just that short of time longer you put
it off before it's going to be that's true of anything and you're rent it for how much sure if I read it right I sent a quote to John that you can get it i think it's like it's 4,000 a week and he needs it for at least a month
look at the cost for a second and I don't want to be the one to say that but look at the safety aspect right now you have leaning forward to clean this out by hand effectively and it's taking them twice as long to do that work so your
labor hours are going up along with the fact that it's just not safe or sanitary exactly well Drew had to get in the manhole just to put the nozzle in it because of the size we get a larger truck it'll be large enough to be tapered it can jump over like the lip of
the pipe it wouldn't go in there so he he basically and the way the chimney and the manhole was constructed it's real skinny and it goes down so we couldn't swing it in there mhm he went down in each manhole and placed it in the line so we could
clean but if you rent the truck to be able to do it it may cost a little up front but the labor and time you save along with the safety of the crews it is built for that we need to call musty and tell him to come down here
no you got his number i'll put it on John's to-do list if you got his number yes i would like to see I know that some of this stuff we be we're looking at waiting for grants for it but I would like to see some of this stuff like when
we're doing the budget when it's important stuff like this that we put it in the budget to get paid for especially something that we know that we're going to need in the long run instead of us waiting i know grants are good but this is something that that is needed it's be
it's a safety hazard for those guys and someone passing over that manhole and so I would like to see that so it's been in the capital outlay for several years that's what I'm saying yeah so it's like we just keep kicking it been over five years almost 5% of your whole annual
business well when you have emergencies you have to take care of them first because of dream list so Exactly yeah okay we got anybody from gas department here nobody from the
gas department or parks anybody on the city council want to talk about anything miss Shirley Bill Miss no but good job both of the chiefs
with your land i like it just keep doing your homework hey there's nothing else will be a journal [Music] mhm