Two, three. When you're ready. I'll start the uh June 24th, 2025 city of Perry council meeting. Remind everybody to silence their phones. And Miss Fenita is going to lead us to
open prayer, father, by the pledge. Okay. Oh heavenly father, we come to you right now, Lord, with bow our heads and humble hearts, Lord, to tell you thank you for this day also, Jesus. Lord, I ask you right now to come into this room, Lord, and decrease each and every one of us, Lord, to make the right decisions for
the city, oh Lord. Lord, I ask you that you keep Shirley in your prayers. And I don't know what's going on with Mr. Bill, but make sure that you keep your arms wrapped around him. And these blessings we ask, Lord Jesus, in your name. Amen. I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you and welcome to our meeting with Miss Amy to roll call. Council
member Bry, Council Member Hampton, Council Member Blood here, Vice Mayor Landry here, Mayor Ket here. Uh, number three, approval of items on the consent agenda. A, approval to read
by title only, ordinances 1053 and 1054. And B, approval to read by title only, resolution 2025-14. Motion to approve. Excellent. Council member Wood, yes. Vice Mayor
Landry, yes. Mayor Ket, yes. Number four, receiving requests from the general public. Do we have anybody in the general public who would like to speak on something that is not on the agenda here? You can see no one. We'll go on to number five.
Do we have any bids, RFQS, Carly? None. Okay. Number six, agenda item 6A, Michelle Curtis to provide an update of the TCDA activity and council to take any action deemed necessary.
Good afternoon. Hello. Thank you for the opportunity to share this information. As you know, we want to try to county authority wants to keep the leadership in the community and the city and the county updated
quarterly so that you know what we're doing uh to try to bring new business to the community and strengthen our current business. And I'm a board member. I'm also the treasurer of the TCBA and um Jeff Bryson is here with me as well as
family. So she's here to help answer questions, right? And I'm sorry, she knows and Laura are the consultants that actually do the day-to-day work that lead the board that back them up that
that consider what they were bringing to us and make suggestions and we all participate, but they're the ones who really got hands and feet do a lot of the work. So they need a to be here today, so you get me. Um, so
move to the second the next slide actually and we want any feedback suggestions. So as we go through don't hesitate to stop, ask questions, make suggestions while we're going through the presentation. Um, so you know basically we um our
operation is a bit like a freele stool. you know, we we've got to be sure we help our existing industry and we don't lose any more industry. We don't need any more debt. So, um it's important for us to be a support and we have been uh for some of the expansions and so we
have we do reach out to our existing industry and make sure that um supported better. Um we also need to recruit new industry and we've got to have qualified sites available because that people who are coming looking to um bring new
business. They're ready to get it started and they want the site ready to begin basically. Um so we um we'll be talking about the outreach and as well as the tools um that we established. So
with that we'll move to the next slide. And so um what we really are is um economic development is not just Hill County Development School. All of the people and the businesses that want to come here, they're looking at what's going on in the community with regard to
education and workforce development, you know, and fabulous situation going on college is our health care retail. So they they look at everything
But our focus is on industrial development. So we're not looking for bringing um necessarily retail kind of businesses. We're looking for bringing in industry because what we've targeted, we're trying to target um higher pay.
What we're looking for is returning higher pay scale to our community through industrial. So that is our focus. Next slide please. Um And so we're not all things all people.
Uh but we do have a lot of things to offer with our rural location. That's a benefit for a lot of industries because some industries don't need to be close to a large population. So we've got that here. We've got that covered. Um and our
natural resources of abundant timber and a very ample groundwater supply to support industrial base. We've got 50 megawatts of Duke Energy ready to rock and roll when we get somebody in here. That's a big plus for us because a lot
of communities don't have that. And there's about a threeyear wait time to get new power. So the the Duke industry power that we've got um is a help. It's a big help. People are looking at us because of that. Uh as well then we have
a great natural gas utilities in the community. We have the rail service and you know we've got a technical skilled workforce. We have people that um had skills in the past and are continuing to get skills at the vocational school. They may have to go work somewhere else for a while but many folks would be glad
to come back home to Taylor County if if they have that the higher pay skill and and there bring their skills back to us. Um so we are focusing on light and heavy industries. That's what we're looking for when we are recruiting industry to
and u we have today we already have defense industry in here and you know with the forest around um you can be isolated from homeowners and neighborhoods and things like that. So those kinds of things are help. Um we've
got a little bit of fabrication here. We've got people that have the the steel fabrication skills as well. Um as well as all the wood wood manufacturing and logging skills and things like that. So, we actually have a lot of skills here. We have a lot of benefits already in
place with the current infrastructure that's left over from the businesses that um have actually left the community. Those uh good infrastructures are still left. So, that's a plus. Okay.
Okay. So, our priorities um number one support existing industry and we have done that the real estate industries that have been growing have asked us not to necessarily share some of the things we've done to help them because it's confidential. But um if there are
barriers to them getting um something done that they need done um whether it's a zoning issue or they need some funding or some infrastructure support things of that sort we can help with that developed
very very tightly with state of Florida in department. She's the head of so she she has talks with those people several times a week. Uh and they they give her a call when they have an industry coming looking uh for something that might work.
Give her a call directly. So that we trying to put a new industry. Um and we we've got to have sites available. Those are our priorities. We've got to have those sites available. We've made some progress since our last
meeting with think about those in detail having those sites. Um okay and since since we met last um and this is what everybody wants to hear. I want to hear it you know um we have had nine new industries expressing
interest in Taylor County. So that's exciting you know since last quarter nine new companies. Um now we lost six previously interested because they narrowed down and of course they do a nationwide search. It's not just Taylor County. It's not just Florida. Um, so
they're doing nationwide searches, but um, so we we are at least getting new people coming to take a look seriously. Um, so we we we got nine new ones. We lost six industries that were previously interested and then four have been sort
of inactive. They haven't been doing anything. They're they're gone. It's just they're they're like they may have some tariff issues uh because they're from another country or they want to their customers are in another country. They have to ship their products overseas. Um some of
them have some financing issues and and part of that is truly um just the world affairs right now have disrupting things to the point that um people just make a pause just to make sure there's nothing disrupting their business forward. Um,
and there's there's some electric electric issues accounts. So, four big companies are inactive, but they're still on the list. Doesn't mean they're on. And we had one site visit with the new vendor um or with a vendor who
selected another Florida county and basically it was between us and and um I believe it was Columbia County and they chose Columbia. Part of the reason is his transportation um out of Jackson is important, things of that sort. Um but
we we may never really know why they chose him exactly, but um they were also concerned that the site they were looking at was the site here in um downtown Andy Jackson's property leg. And they were a little concerned
that close to West uh because their industry does make some noise uh in the manufactured. Although we tried to encourage the community was still interested and uh but they had a sawmill next door and they make those. So it wasn't that we were afraid of you
know having um and also they wanted to get 80 megawatts of power. We only had 50 years before they could get up to their desired megawatt. They still got
that issue when they went the power issue where they went. So that isn't isn't the only thing that they chose but Laura Deella has assured them that anything goes ary there we still
the next one I really like because um you sort of like to know well who's looking at me yeah who's looking at our county. Now Jeff and I can't tell you who these people really are except for project Laura and Bob are the ones who actually know and the people in commerce
department know what the name of the company is and the name of the person and all that. We have the project names what industry they're in and how big they are and the jobs and but um these that are on the list right now. So you
see there's heavy industry not 100% sure what that means but a $ 1.5 billion dollar investment in capital equipment. That's pretty darn big. 450 jobs is it's one of the most recent add-ons to our
list. Um there are some wood products. Um you know, not a whole lot of wood products companies right now are looking. Um but there is wood products company that is still interested. We've got several munitions and defense type
industries looking that are um offer pretty good number of employees over 110 for 110 and then 123 um bofules company which also usage and then this project gamma which is a
munitions defense that would be a small deployment initially but phase up to the We have an aerospace interested. We don't know anything about the size,
but a data center is still um and then several bike industries and another big addition. So, um that's what's on the table right now. Those are the kind of companies that are looking at county services right now and we're
we're glad for that. Very happy. Um And this is one of the um things that we've completed since last quarter and it's that brochure you got. You know, we had old materials from years ago and they were still very attractive and all
a lot of things have changed and this is now um a glossy brochure that we can send people either email or copy um that gives the facts about Taylor County, what we have to offer you. And uh the
great thing is it sums it all up. I mean, you know, all those fats and fingers are sort of easy. Um, one li that let you know the thing is we we got natural gas pipeline already right here. You know, we've got rail lines right
here in we've got 50 megs of power. Here's how far we are from the ports out. So, um, anyway, this is what what we use now. But as we talk to people about the um community that we have. The
next slide also is related to one thing I want to mention on this one which I really like. We um we've been trying to build up the number of sites that are ready for new business because that is something they want to see. And now we have a number of sites um identified
that are ready for business. First is is one of the site the site you own on Highway 30 um that's across the street from the old GP site. Uh that one is uh got a has a lot of interest and we'll be
talking about that one just a minute um about something that Duke Energy is doing. We were very fortunate, this was very fortunate to get Duke Energy um basically chose Taylor County and one
other place in Florida to actually pay for and do a site readiness evaluation site. Um and so they chose your site um on on Highway 30 and um so that that job
is almost done. Um we I think it's in the month of June. Yeah, final report is due due June 25th. But they've already conducted a site selection uh group visit. Um they're they've already evaluated the property of the utilities,
the infrastructure that's been buy or what it takes to get it there if uh needed. Um and so they assessment site will be ready. And what why that why that is important is there are these
contractors across the US and actually really across the world. Their job is to help new industry find a site that meets all their criteria. And so this site readiness information for your site then will be given to all
these um site consultants that they'll have it to compare and compete with other other other people who have their site readiness stuff already done as well. So we'll have two sites that have been
completed in Tender County when that's done where we have everything that site um consultant will be able to evaluate our bas so if you look at that there is a large yellowish color on
north side of that map and one that's on the east side of that map. Those are properties owned by four rivers and um it's over it's over 3,000 acres. Um and that information they say hey anybody
wants to build there we sit um and of course the infrastructure has to be built to support it. uh but there grants and things like that help with that commitment but we didn't actually have that commitment but we have it now
really appreciate what bringing that up and we've got Andy Jackson's property um right site is already ready to go um and several other sites as well that um late has expressed interest in giving us the
right to put in our map and share the That was something very important for us to get those sites identified didn't actually um when Duke did their assessment um they um thank us you know and they and they sort
of made a nice comment and so Bob put up a slide I thought I really wanted to share it with Their comment was, "We spend time in all types of communities across the country, but the ones that stand out are the community's heart story to tell. They thank you for making that story come to
life during our visit." And they they were quite impressed with what our community has to offer. um you know as far as skilled workers uh education system um college to support their industries
and the fact that that we will actually change curriculums and add curriculums to train their people that was extremely impressive um so let's talk about the other sites that have available the west ra saw site
um it was very desirable site and you know I'm new to this you know I'm I'm a forester so I spent my years working in the wood industry so I didn't truly understand how important a site is ready to go it really is to
industry they they do want everything cleaned off of it they want clean assessment but some of the things they some of the features on the sites they want to keep some of them want to keep might keep rail sightings, things of
that sort, gas pipeline on site, things like that. But the West Fraser saw mill site has now been bought by John Cheryl and John has done this over a dozen times where he's bought these sites and
cleaned them off and got ready and sold them to industry. So he doesn't just keep these sites. So his intent is to clean the site up and sell. There are already several companies that are interested in that site. So that's a
process and it won't take that long to clean that site up. So um it just has last week. So that was a positive and then it's now they're in the process of cleaning it up and getting ready buyers
and um So, we're excited about that opportunity that will help us as well. The other property was going to site readiness, pardon me, the other property was going to the site. So what we know on the GP for the
cellular site, this is um recognized that um we do have direct contact with them through Laura um and because we brought one of those big companies at the top of our list recently was
interested and they oh yeah okay talk some more. So, um, they're not ready yet to actually turn it over because they're still they've just now started their site demolition began on the 29th of May
and they're expecting to complete it by the end of August. Um, they are retaining the wastewater treatment system, two warehouses and warehouses and as much rail as possible. And so that's where the status of the
getting that site ready is at. present time. Um, four rivers did file suit against Georgia City regarding the pipeline and you saw that newspapers and I don't have any um more information on that and also um the last one is
I like big series about so we are expanding our outreach as well. Um you know we've got our little brochure ready now. Um we got we attend these site readiness meetings and site
meetings with site selectors. Um but we we really do need to do some upgrading and we've applied for a grant with um Duke's energy Duke Energy's foundation for economic development and uh to help us update our website
up toate and you know interactive. So we we know in July that we have something really had a lot of interest. You know, we're close, but
each of us are attending things we can. Recently, Jeff and a couple other of the TCPA members attended a visit in Alabama wherein [Music] one
none of us none of us have ever seen. So, we wanted to understand what was common, you know, could our people do this thing and what's the potential Jeff is helping things as well with his experience in the airport. We we have
people that are interested in doing business at the airport. Any questions? Thank you. I appreciate it. Item 6P, council to review DMH board applications and make an appointment and council to
take any action deemed necessary. We have two applicants. hospital direct choices based on what they refuse. Hope got her application in first. What was that? Hope got her application in first. Oh yeah, she did.
To make a motion motion motion second. Yes. Vice Mayor Landry. Yes. Mayor Ket. Yes. Okay. Agenda item 6 C, public hearing
and final reading of ordinance 1053. Council will take any action deemed necessary. An ordinance of the city of Perry, Florida, relating to the reszoning of less than 10 contiguous acres of land pursuant to an application
Z25-01 by the property owner of set acreage amending the official zoning atlas of the city of Perry land development regulations providing for reszoning from residential conventional single family 3 RSF3
to residential mixed single family mobile home or RSF MH3 of certain lands within the corporate limits of the city of Perry, Florida, providing serverability, repealing our ordinances in conflict, and providing an effective
date. We have anyone who would like to speak on this or any discussion among the board members. Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion. Motion approved. Council member Wood. Yes. Vice Mayor
Landry. Yes. Mayor Ket. Yes. Agenda item 6D, public hearing and final reading of ordinance 1054 to adopt International Property Maintenance Code and to take any action deemed necessary.
An ordinance of the city of Perry, Florida, adopting the 2024 edition of the International Property Maintenance Code, regulating and governing the conditions and maintenance of all property, buildings, and structures by providing the standards for supplied
utilities and facilities and other physical things and conditions essential to ensure that structures are safe, sanitary, and fit for occupation and use. and the condemnation of buildings and structures unfit for human occupancy and use and demolition of such existing
structures in the city of Berry, writing for the issuance of permits and collection of fees. Therefore, repealing all ordinances and parts of ordinances in conflict therewith, providing for severability, and
providing an effective date. And it's just basically working towards getting a lot of these buildings cleaned up that just are sitting stagnant. It is. And I'm all for that. I just I'm concerned
that we not make it too strict for the average homeowner. That makes sense. Makes perfect sense to me. I have the same concern. I mean, I don't think we're looking for everybody to turn their their their their houses or
businesses into a country club or a golf course or anything like that. It's just I mean, we have buildings with the roofs coming in and and such as that or some don't have roofs at all. Yeah, we need to make them safe. That's for sure.
Absolutely. Within ourselves. This is just to have code out there be able to be used. thought they were going to go to every property and read them everywhere that they say your grass is three and a half inches not three nothing here to do
everything documented in there that we can use right now we have nothing but what about the penalties how strict or steep are they up to operation.
So, it's not changing right now from anything that we've got until we made such a decision. Is that pierces feeds? This fees for permits, inspections, and other
services required by this code shall be established by resolution of the city council and may be amended from time to time. This is laid out for breaking question come down to
um interpretation on the part of the code enforcement officer or is it pretty not the guides follow. We've already had process in place for dealing with these type of structures. We didn't have enough of a definition on what these structures actually were and how problem
whenever it goes through the board of adjustments for the magistrate. So we already have an established process and procedure for dealing with these buildings. Um this is not create recreating that it's already there. It's already established. We've been doing it for well more recently the last couple years
we've been a little more active but yeah this just helps us with the problems that we couldn't address with our current. This is an internationally accepted code. Yeah. that we'll be following. It's almost like building code in a way
like in in a way. Yes, exactly. That's the best thing I can liken it to. Something standardized. I just don't want it to wind up being oppressive for the citizens. That's all I'm concerned about. That's what we would always do. And and there's already
a process in place if somebody pulls a permit for an issue for addressing the clock stops as it is now. And that wouldn't change any of that. That's the handling of it. This is just setting the standards what they should follow. So if they were to start the work, pull the permits to start the work on the
problems and we would stop anything until they stop. We're doing the work or the permit expires and we check up on action. So this didn't recreate the process. It didn't add anything new other than these are the standards that are accepted internationally
for safe buildings. Period. That's where the problem's been, right? Our commercial buildings. We've been holding private property owners more accountable for how they're keeping their property than our commercial buildings. So I understand the biggest
plus is that it actually gives teeth and language holding commercial property owners account which was already I mean pretty much the only thing that comes through except for those situations like recently with the the signs being put up by businesses almost everyone coming to
code enforcement are private homes. This would allow us like said to expand to those buildings we are seeing now that why haven't we done that yet? Well, we haven't had the tool to do it yet with
this forgiving such tool. The word is hazardous hazardous. Yeah. Now, would you still have to have um someone complain on it before you do anything or No, some of these things if it's a true safety issue, we're not going to wait on
them complain. Why would we wait for a complaint to come in and somebody get hurt because nobody's complaining? We're going to address it immediately. And we're doing that with residential as it is now. If there's the roofs caved in or a wall's going to collapse into somebody else's property, we're already dealing
with that without a one hand. And we should be doing that. We should be reactive and we should be proactive at the safety signing. This is mandated by the International Code Council and updated every three years. It's reviewed regularly. It's updated as
needed. We're adopting this standard. I I'm in favor of it. I think it would help us tremendously take care of some of the problems we're dealing with. Anybody in the audience that would like to weigh in on this?
Yes, sir. Come on up. 231 North Jefferson. So, I'm missing my roof. Will your mic up, please? The mic. I own the former Wells building. It's missing its roof after Hurricane Helen. We've been in battle with Voits of London
since then. Prior to that, we lost the roof covering with Idelia. We were kind of involved in another battle with the SBA. So, some of my questions kind of stem around uh you know, I'm listening to the code enforcement. I do understand these codes and I'm actually in agreement with a lot of this myself. My
questions actually stem from do these these uh condemnations as they as they're described, do they give the homeowners or the property owners leverageing or teeth in that fight against the insurance? Because what we're faced with and I'm just going to speak from my perspective. I'm at a year
right now. I've got $180,000 check sitting on the counter. There's $140,000 from the SBA sitting in an account. Not an engine. I've had five pees in my property. Five contractors at my property. I work for an international engineering firm. No one can even say if
this building safe. So if you all have the mechanism to determine it, say, you know, salvageability, why are we not telling you this? Like I like I'm all for this. I really am. But at my expense because like I'm at the point why don't I get my building condemned and just
cash out like leave it a dirt block. We're trying I said I bought that to save this property. I didn't know the storm but these are the questions I have. This is the journey I got. Like I work a job. I got the kids. I do all the stuff all the adults do. And then I try
to sue Lloyd Alana. Then I try to make a contractor come say something something's possible. They haven't seen this stuff. That might as well be the pyramid. most contractors. It really is. Portland cement wasn't invented until 1953. These buildings we think that are
just we we might be on the hands of worms. We don't understand. If you repoint brick right now with cement, you've induced a failure from an engineering standpoint. So any any building that's been touched here, if it wasn't done with done with
like line, it's it's over. I think that we're not getting the right information. So, I do agree with this. I really do. But not at the expense of I'm I'm not wealthy. I I can make a lot more money turning that into a pilot instead of a
building. I really can. I don't want a pilot. I want that building. I want my town to have something. I'm born and raised here. I joined the military. I left. I come back. I want a home for my family. So, these are the things that I would ask you to either consider or reach out to us if you if you aren't
sure. I I have never gotten a phone call, no phone ringing, nobody saying, "Hey, dude, how do we do this?" I'm I'm everything that she can attest. Uh we both she's a consultant for the state. Me personally, I have on my plate
exactly what the hospital does and the school system does. My burden of proof is the exact same as the entire school system to get their roof fixed. And I'm just a guy going to work. I I left work. I'm going back to work tonight. I got to turn in engineering
reports, but I my building's going to have no roof and we're going to sit here. So, I'm all for this. But I just wanted people to understand like as the one person that downtown I am the elephant room. No doubt about it. That's the elephant property. No doubt about it. But the bigger fish that are coming will
not like this code adherence is going to be easy for them. They will cycle clear this whole city. And y'all I mean they will this will be Tampa like that. So these are considerations that need to be made. If our locals can't adhere to these codes and if we aren't giving our
locals the tools to utilize them appropriately and I'm not talking about sitting on your butt not doing work. We're actively emailing turnaround time one week, one week, one day doesn't matter. Congress and senators doesn't matter. So these are the things that you
need to think about or that we all need to think about as a community because the like I didn't climb off that limb because I just one headache. I promise you. I was trying to save a building that I thought was salvageable and I still think that it is, but every engineer that sees it loses mind.
They're like, man, I don't know where it starts. Yeah, Dustin, what are they saying about it? They don't know. Uh so I can infer um they don't say it but I think it's savable but you get into the cost the
viability of it cost effect cost feasibility but then you also get into they don't want it on their plate you you know what I mean like you can have a piece say yeah that seems possible it's like cool you want to sign the permit it's like I don't do that same thing with a with a contractor hey we got a
repair plan we're going to do this so like right now where I'm literally found out this stuff is like insurance has already issued me erroneous report. I can disprove it. I'm going to have to get an adjuster and sue it, but it's not going to be today. Like that's just that
they want they want quotes. No one wants to give me a no one thinks it's possible. I think the only way to save that building is either cut it cut it in half and put a metal build inside which we found a property like equipment. We've reached out to them. We're trying to find the contractors they use out of Jacksonville. But again, it's like it's
like chasing a rabbit. It really is. Trying to find who did the splur, get it permitted, get it certified. Um, so I think it's salvageable. Aside from that, if I can get the money up, so what they owe me, my policy was for 550. They sent me a check for 180. So I got to go in my free time and try to figure out how to
get 380 back. You know, you argue against market value that that eats that eats 170 like that. They degrade things without doing non-destructive testing. And there's no mechanism for the average citizen to go back and have them retroactive. Hey, you erroneously degraded that. You should have degraded
that. They don't really care because the burden of the proofs on the home or the property. They can tell you the steel is like they degraded $50,000 in steel in my building. I have a brick and building. I don't have 50,000 in steel. So
the the broader the broader group collectively doesn't really understand or isn't even witness to those things happening. Having concurrent with that though we don't have formal historical society period or designated zone. It is widely believed that we have a
historical designation but we don't. Three properties are included on our historical register. We got post office uh the old jail and the Methodist church. Everything else is not a historical building. Doesn't matter if
it should be just isn't. So we could have real infrastructure people. However, that works. Right now, it's the individuals, but collectively there's no real protection at neither the state nor the federal level. These are just old buildings right now. So, there's a lot
of other knobs that are infrastructure um ordinance-based or, you know, those are knobs we could really turn. we really get some involvement with these state level organizations, historical preservation organizations, federal uh preservation organizations to leverage
that with all of our property owners, not just myself, my mom, not Earl, not I mean everyone. But those will really give us because they pay on the dollar 20% 40% whatever that turns my 180 into 360 like that.
Yeah. But there's there's a major problem of credit strength historical stuff because it pulls them ties your hands where you're where you're very very limited on what we can do. I would make my hands are tremendously tied as well now. Um
well I'd like to weigh in whenever you're absolutely good. Yeah. And so that that was just that's that's the experience I've had. Um that's actively what I'm facing it. Again, I think that these things cuz I I'll utilize this. If I meet the CR because I'm I mean I'm an
opportunist. If I meet the criteria for condemnation, surely that meets the criteria to give insurance what they need. I mean, right, we would agree with that. And if not, I think that that we would need to go back to the draw board about the condemnation because what really sucks as the private
citizens, we can't keep not being able to utilize this for that. I can't have y'all tell me it's not safe. They tell me it is sable and I had to sit here and hold it in the middle like I don't know what to do with that. So just wanted to share that I wasn't prepared. I
literally left this rush here. That does bring up a good point. So who would determine if it is or it isn't with the city? I wouldn't know that either. Go ahead Jeff. Typically we don't get into condemnation unless it's been a long process by something.
Okay. We don't get into what by what we determine long and ignore. What is like how long is long? So what's the duration of long and then what is the criteria of ignored? Ignored. You said we don't get into condemnation unless it's been a long time. Unless the
property has been ignored. I meant the person who or the owner because we've been dealing mostly with personal property. They have gone through the process and they continue to either not be responsive often it's no response at all and so there's no because actually I
think code enforcement has been re-engaged in the last year and a half. So that's just a process for the city saying yes we want to continue. So that's my only experience of long but there's no preset dates and times or or you know three months too long or not.
So but understandably that level of combination you'd have to establish that criteria on the front end. That's all I was saying. So it was it the hurricanes that got the roof on your building? Ideally you got the decking or the part? Yeah, just the covering. All the decking was in place. Had it reinspected roofer
put up a new roof. It's just Dustin's opinion. I will not go back with a membrane roof. I don't think it was a good idea. First one, it's just me. Uh but basically went back with a membrane roof. Uh while we were trying to get the rest of our funding because so the first section was 30 grand, the next section was 100 grand
roof. Um that took a year to get that funding. And in that time when Helen hit, so my funding hits seven days. The SBA is atrocious, but 7 days later, Helen ripped the old roof, the new roof off that was replaced with the membrane roof
attached to the decking. It was it was adhered. It took about a foot thick of brick wall with it, too. So three watts thick, 14 inches thick, a foot down. It took that with the roof and it just sailed 120 120 ft. So it basically Yeah, it's an indestructible fabric. It just
turns anything it's bolts to into an indestructible sale. And so that's a that's a concern to be thought about. Well, so so the whole roof's gone off that building. Is that No, on the front section, two roof elevations. The original roof was a full rectangle 1935
destroyed the back two/3s of the second story. They built basically a wedge just sloping down. So you end up with a 2400 foot and a 5,500 foot. So we lost a 2400 foot roof over the main original twotory elevation. The intent was to try to save those original trusses. None of that
will happen. But uh the rest of the 5500 is still all intact. No issues. But you know, we didn't get the membrane on. So yeah, but but the broader picture is these things. I'm for these things, but we as long as we think through how to
utilize them and to the benefit of the community and citizens at large, not the people that are being negligent, but the people that are like trying to do the right thing. If this thing's here, I'm grateful. I want to be able to take all this and then take this to my insurance company and then utilize this to continue forward.
Like to say something if I can. I know officer Griffin is not here all of anybody in the city knows I work directly with him a lot with that um for I have for years. Um he is one of those that if there is a situation going on
like what you're experiencing, he takes that into consideration. He doesn't eat. What this is for is for somewhere that has part of a roof hanging off dangling over a sidewalk that children are on. Absolutely. Or the community is on for
safety immediate safety issues. We don't have anything. We have to stand on that current. Well, and and I I mean I I agree with you. So Helen happened. We did the um Yeah. Well, yeah, that's true. But we uh
we got that happen. We went straight to I think it was trunk or treat or one of those one of those events downtown immediately. The very first thing I do is call the fire department. Um the city don't I I had a bunch of orange constructions anyway because I was running for Jim. Um I said hey how can I rip off the face of my building? I
started calling people that takes personal ownership to try to do but I do agree with you. I was like I don't even want people walking in front of that thing. But in the interim at that stage I was still waiting reports. Insurance had didn't insurance didn't send me a report for four and a half months. They send out three PES, call them all you
want. Four and a half months later, you get a report. Half it's wrong. And it's like, you don't get a check. There's really no mechanism to you don't want to demo it. You can't really demo it. You're just like, you're stuck in this kind of awkward limbo, or at least I am. Um, if I'm not, I'll I mean, I've
researched a ton, but if I'm not stuck in limbo, he makes pop up here, and give me an answer, and I'll take it like that. But but I agree with you 100%. My quick question was this would be if we adopt this ordinance, are there any And I don't know what the code entails, the changes of the code. Jamie, you probably
do. Do we have any buildings in town that would automatically go on the condemnation list? No. No, not immediately. There's a process to get there, but they would fall in the parameters. They were ignored for what length of time. We would start citation or a warning letter that go out, then we
would start documenting over time the lack of responsiveness or responsiveness on whether or not we need to address that building. So the answer is we do have buildings that would go on condemnation list because that violation. We can't just immediately put them with condemnation with the passage of time they fall into that perimeter.
If if nothing is done on that building say yes they would be on there. There's nothing that says tomorrow we're going to put five buildings on it from pass code. No we're going to the whole incentive is to get people to comply with the code not enforce the code. We want people to follow the code make the
building safe. make them usable so that they're a benefit to the community. We don't want to tear one building down. That's not the goal. Our goal is to make sure that we have buildings that are suitable for use and that are safe. And if people can get them safe, that's fine. That's what we want. We want
um compliance. We're not after tearing down building. That's not what we want to do because it cost us money to tear a building down. A lot of a lot of money. We don't want to tear one building down. We want them to be saved. But if they can't be saved then yes we end up following the process to have them. So
the answer is we do have buildings would fall in violation if nothing was done after the passage of a certain length of time to get that one corrected eventually is and do you have a number on those buildings how many we have I so and and that was kind of the the alter the approach I was wanting to convey
here was that without and I'm not saying no one that people aren't educated we need to seek out that proper education because I can tell you right now that no joystick mason rebuilding period is compliant with modern Is that true? That is 100% true. It's not a hinch fastener.
Relies on gravity. And so I can just tell you now, if you look around that build and if we aren't sure, if you look up at the brick and if you see wood sticking out of a piece of brick and no nails, that's a choice of masonry. But we've got a lot of them. Um, and I can tell you the moment any of those experience what's in interpreted or or
perceived as an induced failure, it needs to be reinspected and brought up the code which will require immediately the removal of all of those choice members or or the rect to be rectified to meet compliant. So I do agree that while there isn't a list right now, I
think that's because of an absence of of ourselves. That's just what I think. I think I think 15 buildings like that would find themselves in the process first. We got to start somewhere sometime. I
started a few years ago. I'm right there with you. I didn't plan on speaking but here for a reason to um I'm not I'm not a big investor but I am looking at investing in Perry
and I've um looked at sorry just for my son got a job here with Duke Energy so that's why he ended up here so he's here um we invest in real estate properties um back in Citrus County as well So, we've been looking for some
rental properties and stuff and some stuff come along just over the last couple days that we've looked at and that's why I'm here today to look at look at some properties. Eight buildings downtown, all of them in very very very poor shape. Um, so we bring our own
money in. We rehab but keep the aesthetics and and the appeal of the old the old buildings. We don't want to build anything new. we want to kind of um revamp what's there, but I'll tell you by walking through all these
buildings today. This scares me what he's saying because it just kind of reiterates um the lack of of of good ownership and and um
value that they put in into the last I don't know how many years, but buildings that I'm looking at all need a lot of work. Um, one of them could probably be pandemic. Um, at least one of them. So, um, so when you say a lot of work, you
mean structural? Yeah, structural work. I mean, and and these buildings are are are downtown. So, um, some of them are closed, some of them are open, but, um, I don't want to have this big endeavor if if I I can't
get some help along the way. I don't want to I don't want to make a purchase and then start getting fined right off the bat that we have an issue. I there's known issues. You can see it. Um you can see it from the street and and it's it's pitiful to watch because I see a lot of
I see a lot of value there. Um as far as what what value that this that it brings to the table for the community. Um and it's it's it's just not it's not happening. and and you can look around and see why it's not happening. And some of the stuff, like he said, his hands
are tied. Um, and I' I've gotten into some hor historical stuff in the past, and that's what we do is we buy some old buildings, renovate them. Uh, we've never built anything from scratch. Everything that we buy um is something in this sort. So, we bring it and and
most of the stuff um is is old. I've got an old 40s bait shop. I've got an old 30s gas station that we converted into restaurants and bake shops and venue space and um so so I know the the process in in code to that that we can't
meet those codes um and we've we've had really really good help back there and I just want to know that there's there's help here along the way to kind of bring some some light to the table here because this place is amazing and this reminds me of of what Citrus County was
30 years ago. And I'm a native Floridaian. I was born and raised there. Um, and I just happened to come here uh to get my son, you know, established in a house built. And so I was kind of, you know, he's looking for properties to buy just for rental income. And that's kind
of how we came across this. It's it's exactly how we came across it. So, um, big issues, but I I think, um, I think with the right help and and the right direction, um, and someone willing to put their own money into it, um, could
turn things around for sure. I just, you know, I I don't want to be I don't have my hands tied, you know, I don't want to inherit a bunch of problems, which I know there are some out there, and I'm willing to jump through the
hoops and do what it takes, but um, Are you saying you can't meet these codes? You said you couldn't meet the codes. Are you saying you can't meet these new Well, I mean, those all of those historic buildings downtown cannot meet today's codes. If I were to go in
there and rip the roof off of I mean, there's one building right in the middle of the strip that's I have no clue why. Well, still it's bad.
So, um I mean it's I believe it's fixable. I mean you're you're not you're going to have to bulldoze down a building in the middle of a strip. I mean everything's falling in and it's a lot of money and it's a lot of investment and it's a big risk.
You're not getting huge money for rent. So you want to make it affordable where someone can come in there and run a business. I I'm not in the business of I'm not going to come in here and open all of my own businesses, but what I will do is I'll create really nice retail space for someone else to come in
and run a business. So, I may have a business here or there throughout the community, but I'm not trying to come in and capitalize on all of the business. I want other people to bring that to the table. people that have the vision and have the have the dream of opening a business, but they're not going to do it in a place that they
don't own that they're going to put another couple hundred thousand dollars in. That's not going to happen. That's why that's why it looks like that. This is for someone who's pulling permits, making progress. We're going to work with you when you're doing that. Yeah,
this is something that's been dilapidated for, you know, been neglected for the past 30 years. That's the property owners. The biggest thing we're doing acquire the building to do nothing. Yeah. People from 10 states away and have never even seen the property. They have the property and
they've been charging rent stuff that's substandard. They shouldn't even have anybody in rent out. This is the case here. That's that's what we're trying to address with this. If you're pulling overheads trying to get things done to get get them remodel, we're not that's not what we're after. We want to we want
to hold the ones that have the properties not take care of the problem. That's that's the goal. Just to attempt to quantify what this gentleman was speaking about. um just with a few discussions I've had with uh several engineering or engineering firms
that are structural engineers that specialize in the preservation and restoration of of that style of building coupled with the square footage and just the the minimum estimate that I've gotten to repair that building. Keep in mind this is before I even had the cash on hand, which I still don't have all of
it. But the point is the minimum I've heard is $500,000. Saw that building in half and hopefully place a metal building inside of it. And that's still with me doing some work. That's still with me creating my own demo company, doing a lot of stuff myself, doing a lot of the interior, doing a lot of other
things. What you're saying is your outside would be a facade basically. Yes. And even that might not be salvageable because there's really no way to determine that the interior uh wide on a three wide brick building is ever truly secure again. And that's one of the
engineering barriers I'm hitting. But uh the high end, so the minimum end was 500. the high end is $800,000 and like he's speaking to seriously um you know an $800,000 investment in this community where the average rental the rent is 800 to I mean on the high end 1,500 a month
uh if I have 800 grand in my pocket it ain't going to be to make 1,500 a month spread out over 240 years it's just it so I mean I can speak to that that's those are real quotes I've got real real estimates I mean on my property I for
one if thay I We've only lost one side of the courthouse to that's before the hurricanes. I agree. I mean, one to a fire or two to just age. You can see them. They're on the Google maps. You go to Google Maps, you search
by day, look at old pictures, you can look at old revisions of Google Maps and you can see before the Emporium was gone, before Big Ben, like you can see. So, we're we've lost about I think we've lost a chunk of downtown buildings over the last 15 years. Or what happened to Emporium? Was that just a joy roof?
Joyce gave out or something just time town regulations 1950 every building in town was occupied. You know how much regulation they had then
said when the government was here to help you watch out. I have a church that occupy one of the buildings came over here to get a permit or whatever
regulation came out of Gainesville. What has gain still got to do with regulation Taylor County about off street parking off street parking another thing we could change his downtown buildings were exempt from
that anyway churches really it's in the downtown business district churches have to have dedicated off street parking John has got a little book over about 400 pages. Yeah. This isn't designed for hurricane
either. This is the property that's been dilapidated and neglected for many many many years. Oh yeah. And and I didn't think this was directly me, but I feel like in the past two years um you know as as a degree engineer who works as an engineer daily doing this job, I'm in a unique position to be able to not only
quantify what I'm experiencing, but translate that into how it's going to u you know be related to these other properties pretty directed. Um and it's and it's the fastest shortest term like this is stuff I've been doing for the last two years. This is the these are the market rates. This is what's out
there. We will be faced with contracting like reaching out to they don't want to do this stuff. Just like body men don't want to restore spill. They want to pull dents out of dump trucks for city workers. You know what I mean? Fast money. And contractors you're we're dealing in people. They've never seen these structures. They I mean it's
foreign to them unless you're dealing in specialists. Um it's same thing with the engineers. I've had pees if they're 30 or 40 year old be good luck. If they're not 50 or 60 or 70, they won't even know what they're looking at. And and and then then that knowledge base extends into Not only that, but the people that
are writing and and prescribing these codes and these recommendations and enforcing it will have to ensure a level of training and understanding at their level to make sure that it's it's it's being adhered to appropriately. So, you know, I didn't think I was being called out. I think I'm rapidly processing
through it considering the magnitude of it, but even that it's it's pretty much undoable. And I know that I'm just continuing to do it. Well, I know this thing isn't just about downtown. That's about the whole city. That's right. As an entirety,
I'd be glad tomorrow turned into benefit downtown here many rules and regulations. Not sure it's working. That ain't the city or the county. That's the state regulations you're
talking about. Well, I can tell you what they don't have to if you doing it with Anyway, we're getting out. We're getting way off track here. I understand that. But we So,
everybody's saying they want this thing, but it's going to be a problem at the same time. I'm not saying everybody. I'm just saying this. I I'm Miss Landry. I don't want it to turn into Yeah. You got one little thing and we're going to come after you.
But I do but I but I do ma'am. Would this um international code be worth workshopping? So because a lot of people are speaking as to what they think it is produced and how they think it may impact them. Um and so
maybe this is something that either can be workshopped or or maybe just a special meeting on a particular code so that we're not sort and the council fully as well as maybe the people because I'm hearing um I'm sorry Mr. Dustin I hear your last name of the idea
of education like we're going to be held accountable. what are we exactly going to be held accountable for? And even though there is not like this automatic list that comes up and we don't have to have a complaint, but majority of code enforcement comes through complaints. So I don't want it to seem like you're
automatically on a list of some sort. So would it be worth it? I know the summer months and workshops are not often well attended, but that's another option. Maybe we're not to that point yet, but that may be something. Just go just go over this thing and find
out what exactly is in it. Yes. Make sure there's not two sentences in there that's going to really get us. Yeah, mayor. Yes, sir. I'd be interested to hear what he was saying about getting help like in River N that'd be a key part of what we're talking about. May we include you if
you're willing to help this Dustin as well? Absolutely. I think there's valid viewpoints here that we need to consider. Like Citrus County, I mean, that's the county that I've worked with for years. And um they give us what they call
concessions for for stuff that they can't we can't bring that building up to. It doesn't have um it doesn't have parallel access. It doesn't have meet a facade design requirement or what it doesn't meet the drainage retire. you know, if if we take an old building and
today's code, we have to do uh parallel access to the next Well, it doesn't allow for that. So, we can't do a we can't do a um a uh a change of use on the building. I can't put a restaurant in there if it was a bake shop because it doesn't meet the the requirements
that change of use requires. So, they give us some concessions based on what we have, what we're providing, what we want to do. Um and it's been a very very simple way to get some some clarity and some approval. Um, and and we don't ask
for stuff that's not reasonable and and and that you can't see that makes common sense. So there's there's something we can probably get from Citration of like a multiuse. They used to designate properties the multiuse
combination. Well, what what do you say we just table this and set a workshop on it? Is everybody okay with that? Just we'll just build I understand. So that's why I said maybe
also get our building. Okay. So we're going to table this until we can call the workshop together and go over it. Make sure and Make sure you keep that I mean just keep their eyes open and see what it's going to be people that are capable of doing and
they're not. It'll hold them accountable and help them to you know bring hold people accountable and and you're not talking bunch of money. It's just accountability. uh whenever you drive through the community and you see stuff that's like just
they're not held accountable then it seems to look that way all the time and and that's contagious as you know as as easy as the positivity is contagious. So when when the neighbor looks bad the other neighbor doesn't care about broken
either broken windows and stuff. Absolutely. I mean, I I I agree with it. Um, but I also have some some reservations as far as, you know, getting stuff done and and and and I know the um I know what you guys are
going after. It makes total sense to me. We want to do this before the next meeting or after. What you know, what's the pleasure of the council? Fourth of July. You want to do a fourth of July? About six o'clock in the afternoon.
Watch the fireworks in there. Don't say we did. Okay, we'll do that. What about the Oh, we got a meeting on the ETH. I know next week a lot of people are probably going to be off and gone and
busy and etc. I'm going to be gone later this week. What about the week of the even though we have a meeting on the eth? I mean, do you want to try to do a workshop that week? Week of the 7th. July 7th. day before our meeting on the 8th.
That's what you're saying. That whole week along in there Wednesday or Friday? The 11th? Thursday for me. What day? Wednesday. The 11th.
Wednesday or Thursday? would be fine. We need to work early tonight. Say 4:00 on the night. Everybody okay with that? Okay. July 9th, four o'clock. Same place, same
channel. if you don't mind the name of your contact. Make sure you Thank y'all for being here and weighing in on this. All right. Thank y'all.
Agenda item 6E. I believe that's the one we're on. Yeah. Resolution 2025-14, city manager's recommended five-year capital improvements program for fiscal
year 2025 through 2030. Council will take any action deemed necessary. A resolution of the city of Perry, Florida, approving and adopting the city manager's recommended 5-year capital improvements program for fiscal years
2025 through 2030. and repeat. Thank you for consulting with your department heads on this. I think that makes a big difference. And J, one of the things I want to commend you on with working well with with the staff. You take their
suggestions in your office. We're not used to that. Special edition know what to do. Get another barrel in. Can you Anybody have any comments or suggestions or
anything on the CIP Johnny, you got anything you want to add or take away or you can't quite make it 400 million? That's the easy part. The hard part's coming up with it. Anyway,
well, any more discussion? I'll we need to make a motion on this. Motion to approve. Second. I'll second. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Agenda item 6F.
Council to discuss 18-month extension for asbestous concrete RAIF grant and council will take any action deemed necessary. Assuming this is a talking about the water pipes. Yes, that first grant we were awarded for replacing the water man
from the water plant to the tower. You know, we had all them issues with the engineers leaving the new engineers taking over that project. The Florida Commerce suggested we go ahead and ask for the extension. Make sure we get it all done in time. Good deal. Motion to approve.
I have a second. Second. Yes. Vice Mayor Landry. Yes. Mayor Ketcher. Yes. Agenda item 6G. Council to approve WW62071 loan agreement. Council will take any
action necessary. already approved by this actual grant law agreement for the design and engineer phase one of the collection system wastewater system.
This is paying for the design of that trans construction. What are the percentages on this? It's only 20. 2% interest.
20 Sounds like 80. Good news is the next SRF for this strange communities is 100% grant and we're going to ask for everything else. We are say what?
Next SRF that's tied to Hurricane Ela Milton and Hawaii wildfires will be 100% grant for design, engineering, and construction. We're physically constructing. Think we fit in that box. Yes, we have
motion. Motion. Any more discussion? Have a motion. We have a second. Thank member Woods. Yes. Vice Mayor Landry.
Yes. Mayor Ket. Yes. Agenda item 6H. Council to approve a letter allowing city manager to sign hurricane funding application and council to take any action necessary. This one application or several several
applications for this. Okay. There's going to be a lot of funding come up soon. This is just to speed everything up. So I have to bring the application out every single meeting. I wanted to bring obviously the actual bond agreements, but we're going to be
applying for a lot of funding. We'll see in just a few minutes some of what we've already started. This will make it easier on me when I I bring a meeting and track mayor down. I guess I [Laughter] tough to find sometimes. Motion to
approve. Second. Council member Woodfall. Yes. Vice Mayor Landry. Yes. Mayor Kron. Yes. Agenda item six. I council to appoint one citizen to serve on the Perry Fire
Pension Board of Trustees and take any action name necessary. Did it work out with Mark? Yes. I got the uh finally got the insurance stuff he was asking about. Uh Stephanie was off last week, so I got it this morning.
I'm going to give it to him and let him look at it and see what if he decides to do it or not. Okay. Maybe next meeting I'll have an answer. Okay. About him.
I got somebody else I'm thinking about asking if he says no, but we'll see what happens with him first. I had somebody approach me the other night and tell me if things didn't work out or whatever, they'd be interested. So that too.
Don't have that happen every day. Maybe between one of the next couple we'll get somebody on there. That's right. All righty. We'll visit again next month. Agenda item 6J,
approval of the minutes, approval of the minutes from the June 10th, 2025 regular session. Motion to approve. Thank you. Council member Woodfall, yes. Vice Mayor Landry, yes. Mayor Ket, yes. All right,
John got five. You're going to be asking for a lot of money. This is our request for inclusion. What I just told you about will be 100% grant. This is only our wastewater projects.
It is $164 million. Oh, there's no cap. But it's $40 million. Go ahead and ask for everything. We'll figure it out. That's just the motion.
Need the council to approve that, right? How do you feel about the council okay with that? I'm okay with it. Wow. We're not going to get there, but we're
going to get probably 12%. Where is this coming from? Yeah. come from the state. Uh it originates federal that was
1.77 billion for the SRF funds for the hurricane built and white wildfires then it funnel down to the state can't remember how it split out there. Yeah, that's the federal money does
filter through state agencies. I think generally how it works. That's what I've seen anyway. That was number we presented to me about a month ago now. That's what we presented to them. They didn't really
fuss too much. No, this is a request for a grant. This is a request for exclusion into their discussions when FD gets back together will be on their list. It's time for
a motion. Yes. Second. Council member Wood. Yes. Andrew. Yes. Yes. All right. Same group separate money. This is
subject to sewer conversions. We're asking for 7 35 million. Is that is that to pay to tie people into the sewer system so they don't have
any money out of pocket to do with their eight down the road? I don't know if it's 10 years or 100 years. Everybody's going to be on sewer. Go ahead and do it now. Somebody pay for it. They don't have to pay to get on it, right? They don't they don't have to pay a hookup
fee or anything to tie into it. They used to. Yeah, you're right. This according But with this grant, they won't have to. Is that correct? They don't have a cut fee or a tie in fee or I can't remember the name. Impact fee.
Thank you. I knew there was a name. I just couldn't couldn't get to it. Right here. My pen won't reach that far here. Hold it still. I'm okay with it if
we can get the money. Anyway, you need to vote on this, too. Have a motion, I guess. So, okay. You second. You second it first.
Anybody? I thought you would say you said is that a motion and my answer is I guess so I made a motion. Okay. Miss Landry second. Yes.
Besides Mayor Landry. Yes. Mayor Kry. Yes. I don't have the water on yet, but it'll be really close to the $50 million range. [Music]
This is to hang from the poles they are for downtown. We'll have a vote by the weekend. We'll have to come on the weekend because [Music] I'm sure All right.
Nice one. One to go. Form one or six, whatever it is. Form July 1. That's next week. What about form one? Form one filled out. Yeah.
When you got to do online? Yeah. Sure did. I was like a minute away from filing a form six. And then when you log in, came across my phone. It'll tell you what you have to file. I just didn't find the other tell you. It actually had it for
you. Did you have was it 25 or $50 a day fine accumulates up to 1,500 or 250 I thought it's 250 250 bucks a day he's two years behind
a year behind anyway that's yeah July 1 So they can't eat me. I'm just doing Oh, water.
He just closed on the junkyard. Did he? There is absolutely no chance of that property being utilized for water. Well, again, I'll go ahead and get that out there. We're in the process of abandoning that well included in there. So, how he had to cap it off correctly and environmentally
sound all that works and then polish that bill be done with it would be awesome. Well, he's now got land on both sides of it. And I'll send out letters to the property owners by the water tower. Oh, by the actual war tower's
on Baker Street actually and Robertson across the intersection. Who's one by close? He bought there. There used to be a little kids park there. They built there years ago. No kids ever played there.
They destroyed him. They bought Okay. He bought he he had him and his brother bought the Sun and Sand Hotel. They've had it for a long time. Then they just bought little turkey fried chicken next to it. Then on this side they bought Little Burls backyard. So he's got this
property talking about there's an alleyway that cut those properties in half there. Right. That's what this is. We've already done our part sending out the letters to adjacent land owners and that's kind of up to y'all again how you what you want to sell it for, how you want to go about
it. Our rule says at a minimum of the assessed value, which I would not doubt there's a building assessed value on there, but if there is, don't worry about that. I wouldn't sell it for the land assess value. It's going to
demolish it anyway. Yeah. Piping all coming down, isn't it? More than likely, the cap the well piping and all. Right now, the only thing we've done so far is we had road drilling come in and remove the wellhead so they could actually the well to see
what it would take to fill it. But that's all we've done so far with it. What do we ask? I didn't value. Do we know how long or how big? I think anyway. She going to take I'm gonna
circle back around to that later. Okay. I am. Y you interested in selling it? Miss Andrew, uh last meeting, Miss Woodfaul reported damage to property by Duke
Energy. Has that been addressed? I think she's talking about that you were talking about the mailboxes and stuff. Are they even still in that area? Are they still in the area working? Yes. Yeah. Um half of the team is in that
area. Now they're in the Spring Heights area, right? Contractor that's out there doing that work well in the area or not. They ought to be held accountable for it.
Somebody ought to be right. I don't know if John did or not. Scott he's doing what Danny used to do. Danny's I thought no more about it since you asked because I thought something I deal with every day. I think John has Dan's
contact. Yeah, for my major problem. Okay. Well, just as an update, the property um that was a part of the laws of the city of Perry versus Sellers and Mannings has been settled. All of the all of the conditions have been met,
including payment, the fence around the property, no trespassing signs. Um, and today John signed the warranty deed transfer on the property and also with the new survey to make to correct the
the recordings in our property office because remember it was all over the place. I think almost all of um Mr. Horus's estates um there's been just everywhere like outlandish um as to if they're correctly surveyed or not. So,
that is done and it'll be recorded. It was signed today, but it'll be recorded tomorrow. Okay. Um, and also just to give an update that Elite Industry or Elite Industrial LLC with Mr. L. Smith, their lease has begun. Um, and he's the
six months lease that you all agreed to. Um, and they're they probably already done it by the time I'm recording this because I think he sent this on Friday. um that mowing the area bringing tool trucks into the area. Um they didn't I think at one time they're going to pay
for the entire rent at one drop, but um they did do a deposit and they'll be paying monthly. So those are just updates regarding other property debts. Okay, thank you Jamie. I don't have
Okay. Harvey, just let y'all know we still flushing the hydrants every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. We've heard that's all I got. Okay, thank you, Danielle.
I'm sure y'all seen on Facebook. They actually had good post, but our trucks, trucks, even our new truck has been down. Um, I have three trucks.
One truck is completely done for. We We just got one of our trucks back yesterday evening. One of our older trucks that we were back picking up garbage with a front end loader for just for a day.
But we do have our rear loader that, you know, we've been using for several weeks now. I don't have word on the new truck yet as to what's exactly wrong. Um, it was just in limp mode, so we had to have it
towed. Sounds like a sensor. Something to do, I think, with the exhaust or something. Yeah. Back the RPMs down. I wouldn't let it. Next, Somerville Electric came to work on the traffic light that green and
center to put try to put it back up. But in the meantime, he discovered that the box is fried, the cabinets fried. I guess some of the electrical when it got tore down. Don't know how it happened. He said while he was there, he had 10 different
people stop him. He was there at night um or late at evening want to know what he was doing that they like it that way and I've had a lot of people they like the four-way stop there and that veterans and center
and they say it flows better and I know we had discussed it one time before do we put it up or or not. Um, I just want to ask you all again because this this expense of a cabin is $23,000. Um, as a resident in that area, I can
confirm traffic does flow so much easier with those stop signs. Veterans and center, we have some other issues from where it was pulled down. Some brackets were broke. So, but that's just something
we need. Is that something? Do y'all want us to put the lights back up or other birds back to stand at the bedrooms at the cemetery? If the traffic's flowing better, I'd say leave it alone. There there's no need
for a traffic study there. The statute says we have to unless we're changing the speed. Um I would suggest we just improve the signage there. because we have temporary signs now. The signage and it's working pretty well
with that four-way stop. Yeah, I I agree that the signage needs to be good because people are used to it being a, you know, another benefit is it's a it's a traffic calming feature. A four-way stop is Yeah, you don't have a green light for someone to get speed going through the intersection and it is a
school zone, right, for you know, threequarters of the year. I would say I would suggest keeping a four-way stop for that speed calming feature as well of the four stop. Well, I know this is all anecdotal. I live in that neighborhood and I hate that the light is not there, but um
especially the um my First Baptist, but I I sadly ran what what would have been the light by veterans and I was like, "Oh my god, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry." You know, so again, that's anecdotal if the if the community is not complaining,
but I guess I'm just so used to it. Um first complaint about the lights going put back up. When we put that light back up after we had the four-way stop for a while, I actually had calls to know why did we put the light back up that it worked
better. So I mean, you're going to get it both ways. Well, the thought truck took care of it, sir. Yep. You don't have visibility issues there. It's an open intersection. You'll have builds up there close. You don't have park that are feed your visibility. Um
I think it's a benefit to have vote on that. Just agree to it. What about resolution? We need to do that. control device. We've always dealt with an addition. They've already been replaced. They're gone.
Well, we've got it on in the minutes that the council agrees. Guess we get to consensus. Cool. I got y'all. All right. No, you have. That's all I can think of.
She just happy to get that. Said you're just happy to get that. Speaking of Somerville Electric, the Okay. The intersection. Okay. Yes. Did the left turn and the one at Walmart? He looked at the at at it and he cannot
find any issues with the He checked all the timing. He's checked everything. I had him look at it when he You know what I'm talking about though, don't you? There's not a car there, but the left arrow just sticks and takes the max timer. Anyway,
we talk about it later. Which one are you talking about? There's at Walmart, that one and 27 H Springs, the same the one the same arrow. Well, the same direction. It's red on all four sides
and then one side will hang up and won't change for like two or three cycles. And he's checked everything. It's not it's been that's because the left turn signals stuck. Had a problem with the turn. I know when
the morning's coming to work, you might sit there and watch everybody go by three times before the light turn green before you go. Nowhere. What inter What intersection is that? Atner Springs
and 27. Jefferson and Springs. Do the same thing at 19 and Jeff Bucket Road at 19. Sit there waiting. Waiting waiting. But it'll come. Andrew,
are you sure? Okay, Sean, I was off last week, so I'm playing catch up this week. All right. All right, Miss Leer, you got anything? Oh, see if I can read my hand.
Oh, yeah. Yesterday, I was coming home from my daughter. She lives up at Surmans. And I came in on Jefferson Street and in front of me was a big trash truck. I have no idea who it belongs to. The whole back end of it was
black, but I couldn't see the cab to see a, you know, name or anything on it. They were the wind was blowing trash all over the street, all along there in front of, you know, the businesses and everything.
And didn't Aren't they supposed to have a cover over that? I know at one time they did. It was on 221. Yeah. Well, DC, but I No, it was all the way in town. I was up there by the old old Quinn's, you know, right there at that stoplight. Like a
dump body truck. Big dump truck. Yeah. Yeah. Roll. Well, the top was open. I don't know. I guess it dumps. Sounds like a rolloff Dixie County there's they I know they
come through um I'm not sure but they pass some I couldn't see the name on it all I saw was papers coming out of the truck all over the place. Is it articulated?
You just contact them and just make sure everybody you just contact to make sure everybody uses their covers. Just Daniel's going to contact them. Make sure they use their covers. Yeah. Well, you he did not have a cover on that one.
That's right. That's right. I'll call. That's not Okay, Miss F. I had a garbage truck or a truck hauling garbage yesterday that they were pulling a trailer behind the truck. This was a
that's how we had to haul it or actually I don't think it was a city truck. I don't know. It didn't look like any of our trucks. I'm sure. Sorry to hear the brand new truck is down. They're gonna find a sensor. It's bad.
only I've got I'm gonna ask again about the light on on the caramel plantation get cleaned up the bugs are spreading have that in my outlay because it's not on we have another lot needs to be
cleaned up and we don't have the equipment Thank for commerce about the fire department grant station
said it ran very very high. Oh good. I think pretty good about that. They also told us to add money to our previous grant because our score had nothing to do with the amount of money. you go up in money and not affect your score at
all. So we're adding a million for improvements to be used downtown under CBT. It's up to 22,000 bill that be money a million dollar be used for improvements.
bill your plan. We have that now. All right, that it. Thank you all for coming.