So Amen. Father, Amen. On behalf of I want to thank Um, I want to acknowledge our members of city council who are here. Uh we have
council president. Okay. Okay. Well, we have council president actually we have councilman Charles Gray, councilman Robert Graham and councilman Richard White as well as council president Julian Cherry who are all present today.
>> Oh, I didn't expect that. Counciloman Terry Briggs is here as well. Uh and we want to thank the council always showing up and supporting us in all the things that we do. It is important and that shows how the city is connected and and and we are one. I also want to thank the
directors who are present. Uh director Jasp director Fields Fields uh Abby Hson our uh director James Atkins director of police I think I got everyone right. Okay. So tonight's goal is to provide
clear, accurate information and connect our community to trusted resources. We recognize this is a sensitive topic and we appreciate everyone who's taking the time to be here. At this time, it is my pleasure to turn this uh forum over to
Mayor Agent Om who will moderate and guide us through the conversations. Uh who will uh pose the questions to the attorneys. There are three attorneys present. uh they will take opportunity really and introduce the work that they do and then that will be followed by
questions. I as a time keeper we need to be out of here by 9:30. So just recognize the time and I think the attorneys are comfortable saying they can give their information afterwards so that you can have their contact information. Right. So we are
ready to go. Amen. >> Well, good evening everyone. I want to echo the appreciation for everyone who helped bring this together and for each of you who took the time to attend.
In a community like ours, it is important that we create spaces where people can receive clear information, ask questions, and feel supported. We understand that not everyone who needs
this information is able to be here this evening. Some are working, caring for family, or may not feel comfortable attending in person. That is why this conversation extends beyond this room.
Our goal this evening is to provide useful, accurate information and to ensure that residents know where they can turn for support. We all have been faced with experiences
not only in our city but in our state and nation as a result of that alphabet entity that has been driving fear into our community,
especially the immigrant community. And so we believe this is very timely to have this conversation. Our first conversation occurred last year at about the same time at the PAC when we brought
together leaders from the faithbased community as well as professionals and others to address what at the time appeared to be a challenge that we
should keep our eyes open and keep our focus on. what was we we believe would follow. But since then, things have gotten a lot worse. And there's a level of fear in the community that we need to
address and we need to make sure that we have the right people providing the information. And so I'm going to invite our panelists to introduce themselves and to briefly describe their work. And
so the individuals that are going to be introduced to you right now will focus on strategies for individuals facing deportation consideration for business owners facing
staff and challenges, immigration law updates affecting the immigrant community. And so with that said, against that backdrop, I invite these individuals to introduce themselves and let us get down to
business. Attorney Ingred Edia, >> attorney Andrew Woo and Nettia Morrison, >> and attorney >> Ryan Lozan, >> Ryan Lozan. These are individuals who made themselves available this evening
to provide information that we all can have and that we all can share and that we can take back to our homes, our uh communities, our schools, and to everyone who needs this information. So
let's begin with attorney Ingred. Please introduce yourself followed by attorney Andrew who and Nia Morsey and on the panel we have again Ryan. >> Thank you mayor. Good evening everyone.
My name is Ingred Chavaria. I am an immigration attorney and family law attorney. I have been practicing law for the past 20 years. Um I primarily handle removal defense cases, deportation defense cases as well as family based
immigration. And today after my colleagues introduce themselves, I will be discussing the new immigration policies under this administration. Thank you. And just before the other speaker gets going, I was remiss in not introducing
the better half of me, first lady of a million M. And on the panel also is Marissa Martinez who has been a fixture in the community and someone who is always
there whenever we need. So welcome. I also want to assure everyone that to protect everyone's privacy we will not be videotaping individuals. We are only recording the information
being shared so we can use it as their resource. Please ask those um those who are taking videos be mindful of others privacy. So I just want to be very clear about that. Um,
it's good for us to record the audio so it can be shared, but please refrain from recording individuals out of the concern that you all have and what has brought us here this evening. Next,
good evening everyone. Um, thank you for inviting me to say and uh, my name is Andrew Woo. Um I'm a immigration lawyer here in New Jersey and in Philadelphia and I've been my practice has very much been involved
with community law immigration law defending the immigration community of of New Jersey. So as you can imagine a lot of litigation defense and immigration courts. We do a lot with
communication and negotiation with ICE and among other >> Hi my name is Eddie Mory. I just start off I am not an attorney. Uh my name is Daniel Morsy and I'm the director of Moro New Jersey. We are a grassroots member-ledd organization with community
centers in Elizabeth, Baseic, and Booth Amboy. Um, and what is sort of foundational to the organization is we are 7,000 members strong. Um, and we um organize predominantly immigrant working-class families um with the idea
that the law only takes you so far and then we need to fight for new local and state laws to improve the lives of our communities. Um so a lot of the work that we do is focused on um know your rights training um not just um when interacting with ICE but as a tenant, as
a worker um as a parent um and then using that um that information of organized people to determine um the local and the state campaigns that we move. Um so for example there was an effort at the beginning of the year um
to open reopen the Union County Jail as an ICE facility. Um and so um you know members of Make the Road alongside many members throughout the county organized to make sure that that facility never saw the light of day. Um and um you know most recently um members of of Big New
Jersey in collaboration with Women of the Spirits and New Labor and many many other organizations across the state um organized to pass a package of immigrant protections. Is it helpful for me to say that again in Spanish? Very easy. Okay. Elizabeth.ch.
Um, so I New labor. I think Thank you, mayor and for having us spirit. My name is Brian Ozano and my day job. I am an attorney and
specializing in constitutional civil rights law. I'm here representing women's spirit and your resource center as a community advocate tonight and I will be talking a bit about um I guess community centered lawyering and about know rights what we should know and how
we should assert ourselves in these trying times. electricity. He Okay. >> Um, so can one of you or any of you talk about the strategies for individuals facing
deportation? >> I'll be happy to start since they go first, right? All right. So, um, first I'd like to make it clear that ICE arrest does not equal or is not the same as an automatic
deportation. Just because ICE makes an arrest, that does not necessarily mean that the individual will be automatically deported. All right. So when someone is arrested by ICE, let's just talk a little bit about what happens to this individual.
Um so this person is taken to a detention center. The person is um you know has to go through a protocol internal protocol at that detention center. Usually they go through the nurse right through the medical checkup and also um you know they take all their
belongings, cell phone, clothing and everything and then they're placed at the cell right so that is exactly when the case can start when the family actually is learning oh my family member my friend was arrested um and then they
start contacting an attorney I would take a step back and believe be proactive. We already know that ICE is, you know, arresting people who shouldn't be arrested, right? Uh people who have work authorization shouldn't be arrested. And guess what? They are still
being arrested nowadays under this administration. So, we need to be proactive. We need to have a plan. We need to have an action plan. And what I mean by that is if you know that you have not status or you haven't been able
to uh obtain that green card or that employment authorization card um you need to have your documents ready. What kind of documents should you have ready? Passport. Make sure that it is not expired. Your birth certificate. Okay.
Sometimes you know we come from our countries and we don't have a copy of that birth certificate. So, you should have a copy of the identity documents as well as proof of your bonafise of whatever case you may have. If you have US citizen children, copies of their
birth certificates. If they're school, copies of their school records. If your family member who is a US citizen or a green card holder um has a medical issue, make sure to have some proof that this person has a medical issue and that
is under some type of medical treatment or medication, things like that. if you have filed taxes, copies of your tax returns, all of that, anything and everything that talks well about you, letters of recommendations,
uh, school letters, all of that should be in a folder, right? Just in case you might need it, just in case you get arrested. Um, because at the time when someone someone gets arrested, no one knows like the children don't know, the
wife doesn't know. Where's the tax return? Where's the birth certificate? Oh my god, I don't have a passport. And then if you don't have these basic documents in place, that is more time that you will be spending at a detention center. So let's be proactive. Let's
have all of these documents in a safe place in a folder. And you should have at least two people in your household or somebody outside your household know where these documents are being kept. Okay? and that will save you a lot of time and a lot of frustration if someone
gets detained. Um, so class. Um so let's say that somebody someone is detained. Um the first thing that the attorney will do is to evaluate whether this individual is eligible to come out
of bonds. Right? So there has there has been a lot of changes regarding um bonds. Right? For instance, one of the major changes is that if someone had any type of contact at the point of entry at the border, unfortunately,
they're no longer eligible to apply for bonds. That means that they can still defend their case. They can they will not be automatically imported. They can still defend the case, but they don't have to be detained, right? Except certain circumstances. But that's the
rule right now. if someone um uh presented themselves to the border asking for asylum or um they were seeking some type of refugee at the border trying to apply for some form of relief or if they were arrested at the
point of uh entry these individuals unfortunately cannot apply for bonds. They can apply but they will get denied. Um so Foreign speech. Foreign speech. Those people who enter on a visa, tourist
visa, work visa, uh student visa, those people are still eligible to apply for bonds. Why? Because they didn't enter through the border, right? So then those um that group of people is exempt from this new rule. So who if someone gets
arrested and they have entered the visa, it doesn't matter that the visa expired already, they can still apply for a month and most likely they will get released. Okay. Right. Okay. Now, how easy is it nowadays to get um uh a bond? How how
how easy is it to get bonds? Um bonds are still being granted. However, the amount of the bonds are much higher compared to what we had years ago. Right? Under the previous administration, a reasonable bond would
be 3,500 5,000 and if the person had been convicted of a crime, it's a minor crime, perhaps $10,000. Okay, was reasonable back in the day. Now, when I am I am appearing before the immigration court, some of the bond amounts that the
U judges are actually requesting or ordering are 15,000 20,000. Now, to me, this is like a violation of due process because who has $20,000, right? Not everyone does. So, I think
that that um curtails the chance of someone being able to be released because they don't have this type of money. They don't have this much money, right? Right. Okay. The due process
So as um immigration attorneys, as defense council, we have to be stern and and and firm with our positions and always bringing out all the equities that the clients have. In other words, don't accept the $20,000 bond. say your
honor with all your due respect. This person has been in the United States for over 10 years. They have been filing taxes every year. They have no criminal record. Insist, right? Ask the judge to reconsider that amount. Okay? So, don't just take it for granted that oh, if I don't take this amount, the judge would
then deny it, right? Because you can always appeal. You can always make an appeal of of that determination. >> And many times Yes. Yes. Uh paper too. >> Yes. Go ahead. Let's do it.
I could be here for five hours. >> So, one of the things I also want to remind you of is that to your right and left, we have screens, monitors that are translating from English to Spanish and vice versa. And so you can also focus on
those screens for the for the translation. And so let's go to some of the other questions that I have here. And so to my far >> so to my far right
What has changed recently that people should know about? And then after you >> the next question will go to >> Mr. Ranger. >> Yeah.
>> Right. >> So the first question goes to Ryan, then it goes to attorney Woo. So Brad, yours is what has changed recently that people should know about
and to Andrew, what are the most important rights individuals should understand right now? Starting with Brian. Um, okay. Thank you for the question. I there I guess there are there are a lot of things that have changed recently. I
want to talk about two major things and my colleague already started on one of them which was the um the amount that uh is being charged for bonds but I want to talk about I guess the process of immigration enforcement a little bit and
the capacity to bring about immigration enforcement. Um so first and foremost I think that uh what is very obvious obvious um if you pay a little bit of attention to the news is that there has been a push to increase budget in immigration enforcement. And what this
means is that there are more immigration officers um people who can enforce immigration law. Along with that there's also been a push to expand um detention capacity. And if you look throughout the state um and throughout the country really, there's been an expansion of and
a push of the current administration to open uh warehouses that aren't really deemed fit to uh be immigration detention centers, but they have been purchasing them at uh above the market price to be able to carry out their uh
their their agenda of immigration enforcement. So that's a very very um big uh change right and so there have been changes in laws that normally would would have um
I guess overflowed and um the system but with these current changes uh there seems to be a pathway and a plan to be able to um not overflow the system with the amount of immigration enforcement they are caring about the immigration
enforcement machine, right? Whether it's the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration Customs Enforcements, CDP, and so on. So, that's one major change is their capacity. The other major change is the courts that
And we request New Jersey. Central. The second change that is um has happened is one that is a legal change that previously would have really been uh something that that maybe been
carried out in practice but in theory would have been repulsive and that's um a recent case per Donald where essentially uh profiling now has a legal basis. And so under credential rule, the courts have said that immigration enforcement
essentially can profile can't profile based off of race. So if you work at a job, that's typical of a immigrant. If you hang out in places that are typical of immigrant communities, so neighborhoods, if you speak another language um such as Spanish, uh Tabalo,
uh any other language where there is a known um dense immigrant community in the state or in the country, then that is a basis to enforced immigration. And uh this is something that uh is that
previously we I think most attorneys had believe was enshrined in law that you could not discriminate on the basis of race, religion, nationality and so on. And now it's being carried out in a manner where that is not so. Discrimin.
for castle. Fore factor. for we go to attorney. Ernie W. >> Thank you, man. Um, I'm going to leave the know your rights section to the to
the people who work on that and I'll focus on it every single day and talk more about my experiences. I've been living and breathing, immigration, legal defense for um for the community
uh here in Jersey. I have office in New Brunswick, but I also have a lot of ice in central Jersey included in playing fields. Um so just to piggy back of what is saying I am seeing
completely agreeing that with the changes of the Trump administration um as well as the you know the courts in in the third circuit here in New Jersey as well beyond um and with the EIA we've been in a situation where people who
used to be able to get bond are not able to get bond um that's not only people who have arrived at the border considered applicants for admission. But even people who have been here for a long time, traditionally entered, you know,
undocumented immigrants, who did not come in on a visa, but have been here through the border undetected and just have remained here for for a long time, including 10, 20 years. Um,
they have been affected by a recent court decision uh called the abortment of her which was passed in say the late summer of last year which is basically
taken the power for judges and immigration to give bonds was really just taken out of the hands of immigration judge and put in the hands of federal land security. So, so yeah, everything that uh you know
I've heard today um I've been experiencing probably much worse and it does still be fair at times. Um right now uh really important thing to know about that is
um immigration lawyers have been fighting back. I've been trying to um find other ways to help immigrants who otherwise are not eligible for bond under these um you know these legal
decisions uh really really by this administration again for t decision is giving no right to bond for anyone without who enter without inspection. Um, so knowing your rights, at least I can speak to this. It's very important that you at least consider filing
aliases um in the federal courts. Um, and that would be outside of the immigration courts. Um, this would be the district court of New Jersey or Pennsylvania, New York. um they have
been um a lot more willing to and they actually have the power to then decide that okay this detention is unlawful. uh it's without due process um
and and essentially um order that your client in this case who um who needs bond is gets a fair bond hearing. So right now that's the only way to really give um immigrants a chance to at least
get a bond hearing. Um and they may um even just get a straight up release if um if the federal judge believes that the immigration um judges are not not playing fair.
This next question is an idiot and I know you're not an attorney, but you know based on what you've seen and people you talking to, if someone is approached like immigration enforcement, what should they do and what are some of the common mistakes people should avoid?
You have any thoughts on that? >> Yeah, for sure. Thanks for the question. Um, so love best. So, Uh, right. Right. Right.
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will be an opportunity for questions. >> Oh, sorry. I'm asking question. So, let's just continue. >> Okay. So, Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.
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out. Can I Can I add to that? All right. Please go ahead. Thank you. Super important. Cristiano Ronaldo. Cristiano Ronaldo. You know Constitution.
English audio for Victorious. document as your Fore! Foreign! Foreign! Expedant Um, so at this time I will go to Marissa
and after Marissa we go back to Ingred so we're going to continue walking us through her presentation. So, you are a small business owner and you see lots of Latino clients on a daily
basis. As you meet with them, what are you hearing? What are some of their concerns and what might this panel or anyone be able to do or suggest to the people that you meet with on a regular
basis to allay some of their fears and concerns? >> Yes. Uh, my name is Marissa Martinez. I'm also one of the commissioners here for the city of Clayton and I work very closely with the Hispanic community. Um, I have an office which we help a lot of our Hispanic community in many different
ways. uh my Hispanics sometimes they don't even know how to make an appointment to the doctors or or any any sources like for example now um everything is online like unemployment the ID you know things like that has been very hard like they don't know you
know some of the Hispanics don't know um the English the language so there our offices to kind of help them and guide them so people are coming to our office with many leaders and we're helping them to make A lot of them right now power attorneys which I think is a very great
thing. Um especially when they have kids like uh attorney the same right I think they should do this power attorneys for um especially when they have kids um and you want if immigration takes you away
uh who are you going to leave the kids to. So, it's very boring to make those power attorneys or if you have a house or you have a car and you have money in the bank to do a power attorney uh you know to have somebody uh in charge or something like that you get arrested. Uh
so those are the very important and a lot of people are coming in to make the that paperwork. Um, and a lot of people is just the peers and and what I'm hearing a lot that they're doing, which is so nice, people from the churches and and things like that that has documents
and to the parents that they're legal, they're helping them to pick up the children and some of them to drop them off in school because some of the parents are just very very scared. Uh, because it seems that in the city of Planefield, the immigration has uh this almost every day here in the city of
Planefield. That's the number one thing too. Um so that's a big help. Uh when we had the rally uh with the all the students at the city hall um it's just just seeing all those students crying and and seeing and hearing from them
their stories that they're doing the the the food shopping for the parents and and stuff like that. It's so sad to to hear that. So I just hope and let's just pray that all this thing ends quickly and just to to leave something you know to uh to come up with any idea like a
reform or something like that because we need something like that. So uh it's just people are afraid and and and I guess with all the the people here and I I guess the your the organization that's a great idea to teaching them. I think
that that's a wonderful thing to teach them about their um their rights. I also see this red card that the mayor has. This is uh whoever is here. This red card is very very important. It actually tells you about your rights. So I guess
whoever would need this red card if somebody need at the end this red card, it tells you about all your rights. So this is one of the great great um um information to have. That's all. Well, thank you, Marissa. Now, we go
back to Ingred for her to continue walking us through some very important information. >> All right. Thank you, Mayor. And before I continue, I just want to acknowledge the presence of PA Commissioner and community leader uh Fonis who's here
with us to thank you for for everything you do for our community for so many years. We appreciate it. All right. Um so two more things that I wanted to discuss mayor with regards to important changes uh and this is in the context of immigration court are that um what the
government is doing now what judges are doing is that they're pre-terminating the cases and what this means is that the person doesn't have the the applicant doesn't have an opportunity to give testimony or to present their witnesses. So if you have a pending case
before the immigration court, make sure that you work very very closely with your attorney and of course your attorney has to file an opposition to that intent of that judge to predeterminate your case because um
again you have to be a strong litigator and don't accept what the judge says by saying oh I intend to predetermin your case. You need to say you need to say judge I oppose that determination. I in time to submit my opposition and make that opposition. We have had a few cases
where the judge intended to return the client's case and we said, "Judge, we oppose that and we need time to submit that opposition and we prevail." So, you need to be strong. Um, testimonial. contuadia.
Salvador agreements. So another change that um we need to be aware of is is the ANA agreements. The ANA agreements are agreements entered between the United States and other third world countries such as Honduras,
El Salvador, Guatemala. Um, and what happens is that if someone enter if the applicant enter the United States on or after November 19, 2019 and someone someone is applying for asylum, the judge will not take their
asylum application. they will actually want to deport you to one of those countries. But that's not the end of that. Your attorney can oppose that determination and sometimes you can prevail. So never take that decision, that judge's decision as the last decision. You need to always oppose. You
need to appeal and I'm sure that you can prevail. Those are two major changes I made that I wanted to discuss. I have more, but I'm going to pass it on to the next colleague so all of us have a chance. Is there anything else that any of the panelists would like to
say to the audience before we go to them for questions? I They were Maybe first Nicholas Okay. So now it's time for us to go to the
audience and I'm sure that the questions that many of you have and so this is an opportunity for you to ask questions the mic will be walk the mic to you and pose your
question and we will provide answers to the best that we can. Who has the mic? And we behold him. Mayor, you is nonprofit. Ice.che.
Fore speech. leader and sentiment. Special immigrant. And to the audience, if you will limit what you have to say, you want to make a statement for 30 seconds and then ask
question. You want to make room for as many people as possible. >> Good evening, Mr. Mayor. Your panelists. My name is Jose Sanchez. I work in the country for recovery as an ESL director.
Um my question is what should be or stand against ICE? We we usually have an attendance of 100 to 120 people in our library but due to ice the latest
rates or attendance have decreased. So my question is what would be your posture like what to understand? What should we do in case I pretend pretending to get into the library? What
we should do? Are we allowed to hire students or are we are we supposed to compromise or should we our >> So anybody could answer that but and I'm not a lawyer but I don't think you
should confront us. >> I advise no one should confront us. Now, if we can get the answers to translate. >> Okay. Um, so if it's helpful, thank you for
the question. Um, uh, about a month ago now, the state signed into law, a bill that's called the safe. >> Is that better? >> Yeah. >> Um, about a month ago, the state of New York passed a law called the Safe Communities Act. Um and basically what
it requires is the attorney general to issue model policies about how um public places can best interact with ICE. Now those model policies have not yet been issued um but they are potentially a
good first step to reference. Now um you can reference those model policies. You can also you know folks have the discretion to sort of go above and beyond. That'll be the floor not the ceiling. Um I think probably some some other parameters that may be helpful is
um you are able to create um a space so long as it is an equitable space. So like for example um an emergency room anybody can go into an emergency room right um and so ICE also has the same access otherwise it would be considered discrimination. We couldn't say at the
emergency room door like everybody can come in without ICE agents we have to vent you first. Um, but like ICE can't go past the emergency room because nobody can, right? Like you have to get vetted by the the charge nurse at the front to say who can go back there or
not. Now, I say that to say you could do something similar in the library, right? So, um, right now, and I'm saying this knowing logistically it may be a challenge, right? But for example, right now, um, some libraries have some
mechanical doors, right? Or open doors and they're never locked. You could not start locking the door and saying anybody can come in but not us. That's not okay. What you can do though is say that the the library has a new
policy now where actually the door is always locked and one of the the volunteers or one of the staff of the Planefield Library, they open for everyone. Now, I'm saying this knowing that that would potentially decrease attendance because people be like, "The library is locked." But if you wanted to
make it equitable and to create that level of protection, you could do that, right? It's an idea. The other sort of offering is um uh you can put sign you can do signage on the doors that say like for patrons only. Now granted, one
could make the argument that an agent is a patron, right? Um but one of the things that the two of the things that are helpful for that is the first is it sends a signal to agents that the library is aware of its rights. Right? Otherwise, how would they have known to put up a sign that says, you know, no
one can come into this building unless they have a a warrant signed by a federal judge. Right? Now, granted, again, they can come in because anybody else can come in, but it it sort it signals something. Um the second is it can help with community safety, right? because it's also signaling to community
members that you know. Um other things that we have seen in other cities is that libraries or schools will host trainings where they'll explain to community members like this is what our process is. We know it's not perfect, but we want you to know what to expect in the in the spaces. If you aren't I
can sort of go on and on and we're happy I'm happy to sort of sit down and sort of think thoughtfully and collaboratively about like what works best for your um library. You can also do the same thing for um other parts of the library, right? Where you say like actually the children's section is closed to everybody unless you with a
parent head child. And in that way you can sort of create recreate what you attempted to create at the main door in different sections of the library. I know this is not an ideal situation and typically you know we would we would have all people's due processes rights protected and honored. Um but these are
these are um um lawful equitable caveats and how we can make sure that people feel more protected and more comfortable patron patronizing space. Yes. Speech. Speech. You know, my concern was
uh the rates from every day more and more aggressive and we have already conducted some seminars, some workshops. We have pass cards with everything they have to say. But like I
think I don't I think we should do more. I mean we don't know sometimes they are like doing their at the corner of the library and that is supposed to be a safe place for our residents. uh
the immigrants are a big part of the whole population and I think we should take care of them as as the rest of the let me just say something quickly and you're absolutely right and I would like
one of the attorneys or you know address the part of the question that you asked the first time around which should be confront us and so I would like to hear the response for that. consequences.
So this is this is on a persontoperson basis really and a institution to institution basis and I mean I think n gave you a great response that it really depends on um what the institution is prepared for like what has been talked about what is the protocol that is
established I think that we should always me personally right as Brian loan I think we should always assert our constitutional rights because that's what the constitution is there for for must assert our constitutional rights. Now you should know how to assert your
constitutional rights and you should be documenting thus you asserting your constitutional rights so that there is a legal case but one thing is the reality and one thing is the theory in reality unfortunately you may be hurt what is
the protocol though and how comfortable are you in asserting your rights so I can't give you yes you should do it just by looking at you right I can give Do you know your rights training? And based on that know your rights training, do you feel prepared to assert your
constitutional rights? That's that's really the the question and and there's a lot of preparation that goes into that. Um and I think that one very good place to start are these guidelines that the state is issuing that I don't believe have come down yet.
Um, but that's a starting place continuing to know your rights with organizations that have been doing this work for more than, you know, several decades, right? Like these folks know what they're doing. So, let's continue training our community. Let's continue training our community leaders so that
you can assert them. But it's really on an individual to individual basis. My response in my situation, we should always assert our constitutional rights because that's what they're there for. That's why people that's why our history exists our the formation of this
country. That's why people have died so that we can assert our constitutional rights. >> I just wanted to add that you should never confront uh any officer uh or an ICE officer. You have the right to observe. You have the right to record.
You have the right to you know um document everything. Especially now with the governor's website where we can upload all of this information, right? Um and I do suggest that all of us if you want if you observing something that you know somebody's being mistreated
record it from a distance right never put yourself in a situation where you are interfering because you can record you can documents but you cannot interfere because then you could yourself get arrested you wouldn't want you wouldn't want to
do that. Um and with regards to the library I guess you know each um problem brings you know opportunity right that's the way I see it so that maybe the library can implement you know a couple of days uh online a couple of days in
person and I think that you're right we should always do more right because that's how we make change right if we don't do much there's no change right so it's the doors who create change so I absolutely agree with you we can have a chat after the presentation and see how
we can collaborate together. Okay, thank you. Hello. Good evening. My name is Sebastian Torres, president here. Um, I wanted to start off by thanking all the panelists tonight for coming by. Um, you say you got five hours. I love that.
That's great. We both have times. Um, thank you so much. I think Jenny, you're from the road. >> Yes. >> You know, uh, Jenny, >> I do. >> Okay. Her daughter is my student, but thank you for making interactive and everything. Appreciate it. Um, so just
to start off, I wanted to thank all you. Yes. And not just for educating the public, but also educating the leadership in the city, which I think is very important. Um, I wanted to address an article that came out in local press. um from from January, right? And I'll read it verbatim and this is just
something that the mayor put out um and I was a little concerned with it and I wanted all of you guys to just to clarify for us. Um the mayor stated he said what is not occurring in terms of what information has come to us is that there isn't an ice rate where they
go into locations where undocumented person will assemble just walking in ringing up post that is not happening. So, I wanted to address that because from what I'm hearing tonight, um I want people to be prepared. I want people to be aware of what actually is happening.
Um from the lived experiences of the community, that's precisely what's happening. We are raiding in a way that they're targeting people who are not being looked at by warrants. Um and you guys can correct me if I'm wrong, but my question is how can we as a community
kind of know Brian, you're Brian, you're Colombian? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, so you know, like I grew up in Columbia, so we're like bing on like keep an eye out for things. So like just dangerous environments, right? So, so I grew up always thinking like what should
I look for that could be a danger to me? So what should the community look for? What trends have you been seeing in these raids? Um, and if you could correct the statements made by the mayor just so we understand what trends do we see with the raids, what kind of vehicles should we look for? what kind of individuals should we be looking out
to, you know, kind of like inform those around us, right? Um I have some business owners in town who are my friends and they're also concerned because they don't know what to look for when people walk into their businesses perhaps to disrupt business and target their their you know their clientele. Um so what what should we look out for?
What have you guys seen in terms of trends and how could we address that? >> I just want to say that um if I understood correctly, there's nothing that we need to correct on what the mayor say. you know these things or I'm sorry >> no okay
>> okay so we're here to educate here to answer questions and not to create more issues but you know the way that ICE acts is you know they do everything and every little thing trick that they can do right but I'm not so sure there's
nothing to correct on that statement but anyways I think that we should bypass that doesn't bring any help to the public thank Yes. >> So, sorry. >> We're being misinformed, frankly. I mean, listen,
>> Jens do we have any officers there? Just please conduct yourself in a decent manner. >> That's my question. >> Me? >> Yes. >> I am an independent attorney. I have my
own offices. I do not work for the mayor. I'm here volunteering my time and I'm not here to waste my time, sir. Thank you. and and things are changing every day. I my question is I'm Joanne who's on the
board of the library and does ICE have the ability to come into any city building and and do what they do and and uh arrest people. Is that a possibility?
Any city building? The public library is a city owned building. Immigration enforcement is federal jurisdiction, which means that they have jurisdiction in the entire country. Now, um there are places where they're not
authorized to go into without a valid search warrant, and that is precisely what my colleague Daniel was getting at with um essentially establishing uh areas that are authorized and unauthorized for patrons or for
employees. And so these are methods, legal methods that can be used. Now once again, there's the reality and the theory. The reality is that they may still go into those spaces, but in theory, you have a legal case in case they do go into those spaces, which is
once again, I'm going to repeat, documenting is so so important. >> Because I run a food pantry and we have a sign that says patrons only. So we could put up that sign. >> You could. Yes. And in theory that'll work.
>> Yeah. At least it's a legal right. It's a legal theory and it's a legal claim that you can assert after the matter. >> Is it on? >> Um on New Year's Eve morning, I in a local
park. They deny me access to my street. My question is, how do how does an ordinary citizen determine whether or not they're legal law enforcement? Because people that I saw had no identification. I know what a police
officer looks like in playing field. I know what a postal inspector looks like. I know what an FBI agent looks like. But these men were masked. They were unidentified. They had no lights. They had no sirens. But they stopped the citizen in a park. So how someone like
me know that they're legitimate and I'm supposed to obey their Okay. So, I'll take it before you guys. Did you want to go ahead? >> Okay. So, basically, um, your concern is a lot of people's concern, my concern as
well, because how do I know if this isn't a legit officer, right, with their face facial maskings and everything taking like two girls, three young girls, right? Like, how to identify, right? That's a big problem. And I think that there was a lawsuit um where
they're trying to to change that, right? Because if you as an officer are conducting yourself following protocol, you should be proud of what you're doing, the way that you're carrying out the tasks, right? But um for right now, you do as a citizen, you do have the
right to ask because nowadays it's not only ICE doing this rage, right? We have the FBI, we have the uh Bureau of Tobacco and Alcohol that have nothing to do with ICE enforcement. Now they are actually doing that type of work as well as well as some other agencies, federal
agencies. As a citizen, you do have the right to ask what agency are you from? What is your T number? What is your phone number? Not the phone number, what is your your um tag number and your full name. But unfortunately, as we have seen in social media, they get aggressive
when you as a citizen want to assert your your rights to find out who this person is. My suggestion is to continue asking what agency, what is the what is your tag number, what is your your your your name? Because if you don't do that, then it becomes a custom that oh, you
know what, we no longer have to give our information. There's certain protocol that we have to follow and always document. Always document especially nowadays with the governor's website that you can upload all of that information because if no one complains, there will be no change, right?
>> She's got the picture. I said for specific Latinos. So the question was for citizens who are born here but are from Latin descent. Is it important for them to also inherit in documentation because one of the lawyers had brought up that the range in which
ISIS has widened >> um as soon as not document. etc. Fore! Foreign! Foreign! And then he came back.
So what the lawyer said is that by law it's not necessary but unfortunately that isn't what we have been seeing. Um there have been cases where citizens have been um unfortunately detained by I. So it is a personal choice that somebody has to take. you know, you if you get the tape, you know, how long
will it take for you to get out? If you don't have your documents and you know, if you're the bread owner of the home, then how will this affect you? So, by law, the answer is no. It's not necessary for you to carry, but it is a personal decision that you have to take seeing um what has happened around.
>> Good evening everyone. This is council chair. A question that I receive a lot from my constituents or I don't know if this is the panel or the police director. Um, so if one of our residents is pulled over, taken by ICE, the
vehicle is now abandoned. A lot of my participants asked the question, what should they do? Because now the vehicle is left there on the street open, left running, um, should they call the police? Should they enter into the vehicle? A lot of my constituents, they
call me in real time. They're like very apprehensive of going in the vehicle, thinking that it's illegal. So if to provide guidance as to what our positions should be doing. That would greatly appreciate it. Hi, really quickly. I just want to say
that the police department in a lot of these cases that one stop one stop like this. If there's a situation where a vehicle is left on the roadway, the individuals have been taken by they have been detained, we will call our police
department and what we will do is we will give the family an opportunity to get a vehicle. What does that look like? I'll send an officer to that location. If the department is called officer will run the plate on that vehicle. That plate should come back to a phone number
or a resident. We'll respond to that resident and make at least an opportunity to allow individuals to take possession of that vehicle before it is sold by the police department so that they do not incur any fees or any charges for that. So that's the best thing to do. You see any of these
vehicles running in the street of somebody on the table. All the department There's 71 emergency 908753 31318360 So I don't
sitting at the table. Um I glad you guys came out and informed us of what we should and shouldn't do when we're confronted with advice. But my question is more like um uh the young lady from Elizabeth uh she says she
holds seminars with uh people to them what to do and stuff like that. I also know that in Elizabeth they're being held seminars uh to help people who are uh not here as able status and to help them along to starting the process of
becoming a legal uh person here. I just want to know why I'm not hearing about these seminars here. She's gonna say something that's German. Good afternoon. We have every single one of our schools
where our police department has participated, the city has participated and even people from the library participated in organizations uh that so and through
them through the everything. So please be sure to look at like I said I haven't come across it. That's why I'm asking because I'd like to me I'm not one of the person that
needs to go but I have a lot of friends that keep asking me you know which routes we should be able to take or whatever to become legal here United States and I don't know what to answer. In fact, I found out from my sister who was in Elizabeth that there's people
actually helping legal power attorney that we have a list of so that you don't get charged. So I was square. So, So what I was telling him is that in the
school district we have 14 schools in our school district if immigration comes through the door the protocol is for the principal of the school to stop call downtown call the main office immediately. Our main office will
contact our legal department and our legal department will give that principle uh protocols to follow. So in our school district uh principles don't have to deal with the situations by themselves. They have to stop and
immediately call our district office to get Thank you. And I think my colleague here from the library, he said they both. >> All right. So I have kids. I I have kids. So I can use parents,
>> but there's plenty of people here in Pl you know for those kind of people. We have the library. Unfortunately, right now the library is closed because we're under construction, but we're about to reopen hopefully the middle of April and
but we will have a um reop. But we do have u these type of events. We have seminars, we have workshops. Uh but yeah, we're under construction and we're about to restart all these
initiatives in April. So next time problems, a lot of things that are going on right now. I You can also um sign up for our e newslet and it's also where a lot of postings
from the school and also the library. So that's also another form of way another way of getting um Decent information. Hi, my name is so I know there's a rapid response network in New Jersey. Um, but I guess
my question is um here um how is law enforcement directed to ask around ice and are they doing specific training on ice? Um the Houston answer to that we follow
the immigrant trust direct as everyone knows here city that means that we do not participate in any licensed waves we don't respond to anything that they
only circumstance that is somebody shot somebody was harmed criminal act that's where the police department would respond or if like I said earlier there's a situation where an individual
doesn't doesn't know if it's nice or something of that nature call identify people who are on scene so they can refuse situation but outside of that everything center trust directive in the
training in regards to that we also have something that's called CIT training which is critical incident that situations such as ICE other things that may happen in the town that would be a critical that we have to respond outside of the norm so the training is there
program is there and legislation. Thank you. Immigration Trust follow. Um, a bill was passed today in Trenton. It's the governor for signature making
illegal for any law enforcement to be masked to disguise their identity. Are you prepared to enforce that? simple answer to that is this and I'm sure all the agree the federal government supersedes
any local jurisdiction. We cannot enforce things that don't federal law. So if the state passes something, the federal government does not pass it, that puts us in a legal crack. We cannot
enforce something that is a federal law. Now the state >> the state the state can pass things and I'm sure that what will happen is the mandate will come out and they will follow. But if they don't, we may be guided by the attorney general who will
explain to us what he means there because that is the chief law enforcement agent in the state of New Jersey. So we cannot or her. Thank you. Hi, Jane. Um, my question is whether the
city is prepared to put together a know your rights package in Spanish and English to put on your website. Um, You've got a lot of folks here who
have compiled vetted materials that are bilingual that could be put there. Uh that's my first question. If the mayor and the city council are prepared to do that and second is whether you're prepared for all
municipal employees to undergo uh the know your rights training uh that we've got just a taste of this evening. The city provides training in a plethora of different areas and we are always
open to any group, any organization that is willing to come to the city and provide training to the community or to employees. And your other question, the first part, I
believe that there is information from the state pertaining to know your rights and we could simply put a link to that and if any of the attorneys have information that you can share
regarding that, please do. I don't know. First of all, thank you mayor for being here today for make this gather together happen. We supposed to have one more close to the the street and all that
that way people can come here. And second of all, for everyone here, let me say this. So let me say this is a person that had a land to the community and not just Springfield but
all over the state of New Jersey. She has sacrificed her time and her family for being with us and to fight for us. I know and I say that I witness the kind of that she is and the kind of person
that she is and working with the mayor and tonight activity is because she wanted from the bottom of her heart to help this community. The mayor had done nothing wrong but help us to to do this happen about immigration.
Yes, immigration is a friend. Immigration has been close to my office. I teaching people to become citizens and I'm not agree with their I'm sorry because you should carry your driving
license and probably your passport card with you no matter what if you're citizen or not citizen. You should have identification card with you and anytime as organization from something you
should tell lawyers law to be the one to guide you because while immigration is studying you should not fight with immigration. You should not be invited to immigration because then it will be hurt. >> So mayor thank you for for give us
tonight the opportunity to our community. Thank you for the city council to be here for us because that mean that they care about us. That mean that they care about their community and the we have our respect that our citizen
have for them. Thank you for being here with us tonight. Thank you the director police department for made this happen and thank you for being there when the young people came from the high school. I'm proud of them. They walk to
Springfield on the street watching the demonstration. Very good. No problems. Thank you for the police department for being there. The city council and the mayor for his work and administration work. So for everyone,
It's a good start. Um I maybe I misspoke. I didn't I didn't um I I I didn't notice it. I just want to make sure that what I'm saying is you guys understand that. I'm not saying that if you're a citizen you should not carry your passport or anything that
identifies you as a US citizen. I think that is a personal choice that you should discuss with your attorney. There are legal strategies and community strategies. That's all. It's your choice. If you want to carry it, you can carry it. But
by law, you do not have to carry it. That's it. Carry it. Latinos. Fantastic. community lawyers. >> The second question is how would you identify?
How would um Latin community identify phantom lawyers? And the second one is how would they identify um if they're bounty hunters? >> I don't have the answer to either one of those questions. I don't know how anyone does.
>> Well, I I think that if you want to make sure that this is a you know an attorney with a license, um you can just look up in the bar, right? And uh each state has a bar association and check the name of that particular person to check to make
sure that they're an attorney. Not only that they're a licensed attorney, but they're in good standing. Okay. And with regards to the question about, you know, some people going to notarius or foreign carers, you know, in the United States, um in order to practice law, you have to
have a license. We know that. But in some Latin American countries um are like lawyers too. So people may get confused and unfortunately people get you know taken advantage of sometimes you know people filling out forms and nowadays
people who who have gone to form preparers people who prepare forms these clients are suffering big time before the immigration court because someone who fills out forms only and they don't know the law they don't know what factors they have to put they're getting
pre-terminated remember I mentioned that before the judge is going to determine that case even in cases where the client had a good case that they could have won, but because they went to someone to just have paperwork, I'm not going to suffer the consequences, unfortunately.
No problem. consequences. I I think something that's become really clear tonight is that the school system is very connected with the parent community. Uh
>> she seriously they have a wonderful way of communicating out information. They're doing know your rights training. They're doing a lot of stuff. But there is a huge immigrant population that has no kids in the school system who are
completely out of the loop. And I think you're hearing the concerns of the community and there's an outcry. People are afraid to go out of their homes in Planefield. I'm part of the rapid response team. We work for we are
connected to the dire agency dire hotline and we respond to calls to the hotline to verify to go on site. For example, yesterday uh a car that was abandoned in front of uh on West Fork
and McDow from two people being apprehended. And this is happening all the time. Um the community is afraid to go to ESL classes. They are afraid to go to restaurants. They're afraid to go to
the supermarket. You see very pathetic uh posts on social media at night. Is the Supreo supermarket safe right now? Has anyone been there in the last hour? Is it safe to go out? People are
hunkered down, afraid to go out. there. The community is crying out for the city to be much more involved in a lot of services that will help the community know their rights, get connected with uh
uh what's the word I'm looking for? Lawyers who are not charlatans, uh all sorts of things that the city has the ability to connect them with. We can't assume that everyone has a kid in the school system. They're doing a
fantastic job, but we have a lot of folks who have nothing to do with that. And the community is afraid. The businesses are suffering. Um it it's just a terrible atmosphere. It's a terrible atmosphere. And I'm hoping that
there are still council people here. I don't know if they're all still here tonight. I I know. I don't know. left here but and the mayor. Um, yeah, we're a welcoming city. I understand that, but there's I think much more that
Planefield could step up uh to offer the assistance because this is a sad sad time in my hometown. Well, certainly we have this community meeting here this evening. What does what you are suggesting look like? What
are your, you know, suggestions for the city? >> Well, I made a couple of them when I got up before. >> Just repeat them. >> I'll repeat them. >> Please do. >> Okay. One would be to put a link on your website and on your social media with
materials that are written written materials that have been vetted for know your rights perhaps offering some clinics some legal clinics. Uh I would also I would be very happy if the city would publicize the dire hotline phone
number which covers this part of New Jersey. I would also hope that the police now that we have uh a non-emergency number being offered so that when we get called out and we find vehicles that are there instead of just
them just being put on Facebook, hey, does anybody know whose vehicle this is that was left abandoned before it gets towed that we had someone we could call at the police department. Seems like I more than once.
>> Yeah, I'm also happy to share some too. Um I think um you know there are um there are some opportunities that cities can explore. I think you know three of the things that we're thinking about in the cities in which we organize is um you know the police director earlier
mentioned the immigrant trust directive what was signed today was a codification of that law. Um it does not address due process violation that folks have experienced and sort of grounded the wisdom of the last seven years. But um the ITD is the floor not the ceiling.
Right. So cities can take it a step further and say that in the city of Planefield or in the city of Don um it is warrant or bust right so you know cities can can explore that and that's a way that we can make um uh we can we can
sort of strengthen the relationship right goes further than what we have. Um the second is um you know there's opportunities for cities to do much more robust um uh like small business information, right? Like obviously
one-on-one KY super important. Um you can sort of commission out to a city to do small business KY organizing. It allows you to reach a a a larger swath of people much further out much at a grander scale and a in a higher return.
Um and then I think the third thing um though right like you know folks are struggling with budget constraints is um you know creating funds for folks that have been impacted by family separation right and I think you know um we spend a lot of time talking about um the sort of
the direct impact of family separation but oftentimes we forget about the fact that the um the economic consequence immediate consequence of family detention right like many people have lost a bread winner or it was a single parent household and so they can't pay
the rent now. Um because of ICE enforcement um employers are are much more abusive or much more negligent in the workplace and so um you know we can be doing the work of exploring not just know your rights trainings but like what is a temp worker bill of rights? What is
paid sick? Uh what is uh expanded access to driver's licenses, right? encouraging people um in perhaps a more neutral space of like you know um look at the things we do have um and to have it be a place where people convene um so that people explore more. Anyway, so those
are just sort of like three off the top, right? Strengthening the sort of trust directive at the local level. Yes, a cotification path so we can do more at the city level. Um you know creating a fund for folks impacted by separation. Um, and then lastly, um, you know, sort of doing a much more expansive, uh, a
know your know your rights program, uh, for small businesses, which would go further than typical like patronage sign. It would also include like how do you prepare for like an I9 audit? >> You mentioned something about diversity. Can you repeat that?
>> Yeah. So um over the you know um this is obviously an incredibly difficult time um and just like you know living under a fascist regime and in the state of New Jersey we have been able to win some
pretty significant pro-immigrant victories which includes expanded access to driver's licenses, expanded access to financial aid, um some of the strongest wage stuff protections in the entire country. Um and so you know in the state of New Jersey um all people regardless of immigration status are able to apply
for a driver's license. Um and uh you know it's a valid form of identification. And so there are I think um it is so important that we are reminding people of the rights that they do have right like you acrew an hour of
paid sick for every 30 hours work. Doesn't matter if you're a public or private employee. Um these are wonderful ways to sort of um help take the steam out of a very very intense moment. Bring people to a shared space walking away with some rights information and then
able to sort of engage in a more difficult conversation about what does it feel like to live under um such intense sadness and anxiety. So, um, anyway, just there's a there's a whole gamut of very prolonged legislation that we have and so definitely an opportunity
to create trainings based on that and then follow it up with a do you know what your rights are advice. Um, so it is believed that the fact that undocumented people can get
drugs license that that same information was used or being used by ICE to target individuals. How true is that? >> So, it's a great question. Um, so back in 2019 when the driver's legislation
was initially passed, there was language that was written um by advocates and attorneys to make sure that that information could not be shared. um what came to light and many other folks, you know, you know, similarly heard the news that in November of 2025, it did come to
light that that loophole had um some loophole had been found. Um and ICE was the New Jersey Department of Motor Vehicles was inadvertently sharing that data with ICE. Um today, um as some of you may have heard, there was
legislation that passed on the floor, um called the Privacy Protection Act, which closes that loophole once and for all, um to say that, um the NPC can no longer share that data. But yes, significant harm was caused as a result of um sort
of, you know, um an infirm or not, a lack of attention to detail. Um, you know, ultimately that being said, it is important that we share with folks that they do have access to a driver's license. It is important that we share history like this so people to Brian's
point sort of a reiteration over the course of the night that people ultimately make that decision for themselves. But it does allow people, you know, to to drive to access better work, to access better wages, to get their families in hospital and school. Um, but yes, the the hope is that the legislation that passed on the floor
today will be signed into law. We'll close that. >> We'll take two more questions and then we will close and give people in the audience an opportunity if they so choose to interact with um any of the
people on the panel. if you have some specific or personal question that you would like to ask. So the last two questions, one from the right and one from the left. >> It's up to you. Where you stand depend on where you sit.
So first I'd like to thank the city for being the one the second one to sign resolution asking for Trenton to pass the immigrant trust act or was different and Bill Murphy unfortunately didn't do what he had to do. So that's where we
are at this situation. Had they done what you had asked him as a council, we would not have to deal with this nonsense of transfer information. So you did this already long time ago. The state government didn't do what they had to do. That's what we are. So it would
be nice for you to push again the state to do the right thing because right now was just passing one house has to go and We have an exercise. So if she were to do that, we will be okay with this issue. Particularly this issue.
Our organization is more than willing to help facilitate training within the town employees if you want to do that and we can see how we can do that and I'm sure we can partner with Make the Road which we've been working together for 20 something years and we can make that
happen. That's >> that's free of charge. Correct. >> Sorry. >> That's free of charge. We never charge a town anything, right? We never charge down anything. >> We don't charge. >> We're nonprofit. We don't charge.
>> But I think it's important to clarify something else that's that's out there that I heard coming more than once that people can get their citizenship if they just go to a specific place and get it. And I like to clarify how that is because it's my understanding that
people are not commended like I was myself for some time. Not because we want to be documented, but there's no way to become documented and the vast majority don't have a path to citizenship. If that if I'm correct on that, I suggest that the only way to do
that is to go to Washington DC, which we can do now again in November. >> And that's what I'm trying to do. >> So, right, we got to talk to the Congress people Senate change the law. So, I just want a clarification if there
is an easy path for citizenship that I'm missing some suggest. >> Okay. Lawyers. >> I can take that question. Um so to answer it directly, yes. If you are undocumented, the paths are not vast or
wide. I mean, that's pretty pretty common knowledge, but there are pathways. I totally agree with you 100% that we do need to, you know, lobby as best you can to reform really immigration. Um, it really
hasn't been comprehensive reform as long as we all remember, right? Um, the last amnesty I really talking about is Yeah. 2001, right? With um yeah, the the 245 that I passed, but um we've been
sitting for 25 years now. Um I know that the David Act has been mentioned and maybe after this really horrific period kind of subsides, maybe we'll get some real reform here. But um I would say that still Congress
has left options, right? maybe not big options, but um they have le some options for people without documents to to legalize, you know, in the form of humanitarian visas, right? If you're been a victim of a crime, if you've been victim of
domestic violence, there's a whole section um for people who have relatives that have qualifi, you know, maybe family members that have um you know, special needs, for example, or um
you know, special situations that really that that really um depend on on your support. So these these types of reviews are out there. It is uh it's at least worth it to get a consultation
kind of figure out where you stand. >> Last question. >> Okay. the mayors and council board is the people who came out tonight to speak to the community. Thank
you. I also like to say when one when one community or residents are under attack, we all under attack and that's why I think it's important for everyone to come out and to speak out on this issue.
I want to ask a question. Can is can Planefield be designated as a sanctuary sanctuary city? That's a question that I have. And I also want to compliment the school system who did not discipline the
students as North Planefield did. Yes, Planefield. I want to because that's the way you teach young people to get involved, to stay involved, and be active. And I also want to say uh we say
Saturday, March 28th, we're asking everyone to come out. Um we're here from Indivisible, but there are a lot of organizations that are participating. Our goal is to get over 10 million people. We will have over 10 10 million
people out on the streets. There are over 3,000 rallies that have been organized around the country here in the Planefield area. We will be having a rally and we hope that everyone will come out and participate. Please join us
around 2 12:00 p.m. um to make your voices heard. we say no no no kings, no ice and no wars. So we hope that everyone will join us on Saturday and
again thank you for uh putting a spotlight on the issue answering people's questions. We know that sometimes it's easy. You're in the, you know, heat of the moment, but to do something is important. And I think that
as showing an example to young people, uh, that's extremely important. And to also say to all members of the community, uh, remember the saying they used they had during World War II. They'll come for me in the morning and
they'll come for you at night. So people who think that their community or people are not under attack now, you will be under this fascist regime if we don't unite together to fight it. So on that note, Sister Vincent, I
received a text message asking me about the No Kings March. Can you tell people where it would be where people can gather? Anyone or locations nearby? Okay. Yes,
we will be North right out across from where Costco is. >> West 10th Avenue. >> West End Avenue. We will be there. Uh again, we encourage everybody to come out. We also encourage we will you know people who want to make signs and uh you
know need maybe materials. Uh again we have an event on Friday. So we again are encouraging everybody don't be afraid. come out. Let your voices be heard. You feel good about doing it because doing something and knowing that you're going
to be part of people not only around the country but around the world who are coming out. As I said, there are over 300 3,000 events that are already planned and you're going to feel good to be one of the 10 million plus that'll be
out here saying again, no ICE, no kings, and no wars. >> 12 noon. 12 noon. >> 12 noon. >> You heard it, folks. 12 noon Westland Avenue and 22 >> this coming Saturday. No, no eyes. Nobody.
>> Now I want to take this opportunity to thank all the powers. I want to be known. They were not paid by me or by the city or by anyone in spite of the implied misinformation.
They were not paid volunteers who wanted to do a good community and that's why we are here to provide information that will be helpful to those of you who were able to impress here and for you to take
that back to as many people as you possibly can. So this wasn't the first of the first of these and it will not be the last. And to anyone in the audience who wants to volunteer
to provide training of any kind, please contact my office. Please contact Director Chef Brown who is the director of community development. Please contact the business administrator who sitting in front row. Reach out to us. We will
gladly partner with you to provide as many training sessions as we can so as to provide the community with as much information as we possibly can. and
and I'll give each one of the panelists a minute to give some parting words starting from my right. If there's any parting word that you would like to leave, >> I don't have um the department words
except for reiterating that you should consult with an attorney about what is your legal strategy and a really important thing is to learn how to assert your rights and to document interruptions. >> I want to thank the mayor for inviting me out here. is very uh eye opening for
me to be in a just a community just hearing all the concerns of the community. Uh I live in a bubble mostly working on just helping my clients get yeah legalized any kind of immigration you know pathways but uh yeah I I think
we'll get through this as long as we all stay strong. >> Um I think just what an important time to organize like it's most important time when it's the worst of times and you know Big Bro New Jersey started off
with just three young women who were campusing in the city of 11 years ago. Um and and really grew because we were following the courage of our neighbors. Um, but I think you know it's oftentimes we feel pressed to sort of wait for the
right moment or you know wait for the right crew or wait for the right department but it really is on us to organize each other um to grow and and to make sure that we're centering people all thank
for this um event and um I'm always here want to help them. This is our second um the first one was together with the clergies and with the pastors and this is more like and this is Ray and we would like just to thank him to continue doing this uh information for our
community. I'd like to thank the mayor as well and his council uh uh personnel as well as all of you who showed up today because if it wasn't for you, this would not have been a success. So, I want to thank everyone in the audience for being
present. I know it's a late day after work and I really appreciate your presence. And my my last message is that hey, there is hope. We're going through very difficult times right now. But it is such a great feeling to win a case and I keep winning those cases because I
believe in my people because I believe that I will make a difference, a positive impact in someone's life. So let's keep fighting. Let's keep the fight. Let's stay present to that um organiz organization um of you know across New Jersey that we're going to
have. Let's by just being present, you're you're just staying, you know, I don't agree with these no things, right? So, let's say present to that and let's give hope. There's always hope. All right. Thank you. >> So, I want to thank all the panelists.
Uh they have been absolutely amazing. And my takeaway cuz I think it's important that we talk about what my takeaway is. No institution can do this alone. No organization can do this alone. No one person can do it alone. And so what we saw tonight was what we
really wanted to see. People come together. We may not always agree. We may not always say what we want to hear. But the at the end of the day is how do we protect those who need protection? And that's what our responsibility is. And so I want to thank everybody again
and I'm excited with this panel. I know that I'm permanently connected to everyone here. Uh, and of course now that we're home, we can ask questions or take some time. The mayor gave me a new assignment. Does anyone need a card? You have them up here at the table to know your rights
and what you need to do if you encounter ICE. It's not just ice. >> For the community, I'm sorry, back to giving free um food and clothing and books uh for anybody that needs it. We
thank Mr. joy uh for that uh to to give that to the community. Thank you. If you want to stop by, they got a lot of free stuff for the community. Thank you. >> I just want to say that is here with the table in the back and also Mr. Torres, Francisco Torres is in
the back with some important information. So, stop by the table before you guys tell. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.