the 10 days you join us. >> So Frank, what's the range? 100 to 125 >> is whatever the commissioners say, right? >> I think we said >> global fund. >> Yeah. 105 to 125, I think it was. Shannon, you can still hear us, correct?
>> I can. >> Great. Thank you. >> All set, Madam Chair. >> Okay. So, you're going to make a motion to take that out of >> actually comes commission right now. to consume. Sir, seven.
Madam Chair, uh now that we're back in session, I make a motion that we take, uh item number five out of order, the county administrative succession and job posting, vote on job description, posting language, vote on salary range, vote on posting a position, and vote on
selection committee makeup. >> Okay. Do I hear a second? None seen or heard. Uh I will second that. Okay. So, >> yep. Go ahead. Okay. So, we're going to uh vote on the
county administrative su succession and job posting. Uh that's the I guess the first vote we're going to be taking. >> Is there a vote to take it out of order? >> You have to call for a vote. It's been made and seconded. The chair did not call for a vote.
>> Okay. So, we'll take a vote on that to uh take the county administrative succession job posting. >> Do I hear? >> All in favor? >> All in favor? I >> Okay.
>> Thank you, Chairman Hanley. Uh, nay. >> Okay. So, uh, county administrative success succession and job posting. We voted on that. Uh, we're going to vote on the job description, posting, and language, uh, which we have in our folder. I think
everybody has had a chance to take a look at that uh over from last week, our last meeting that we had job description. Uh any questions? >> Madam Chair, I'll just read into the record motion to adopt the language presented by the county administrator
and the county uh attorney. Uh this is for the county of Plymouth, a notice of position vacancy for the county administrator. The title is county administrator. The salary range is 100,000 to 124,000. Commenserate with experience. General statement of duties.
The county administrator is the executive secretary of the county commissioners and chief administrative officer for supervising all personnel and activities coming under the direct jurisdiction of the commissioners. The administrator is appointed by and serves at the discretion of the commissioners.
For a more comprehensive listing of duties, please see the job description. The qualifications for a county administrator as are as follows. The county administrator shall be a professionally qualified person to provide ability who had excuse me with a
proven ability who had substantial involvement in municipal or regional government and is a pro appropriately fitted by education training and previous experience in a responsible administrative position to perform the duties of the office. The
county administrator shall possess a master's degree preferred or bachelor's degree degree plus 5 years municipal administrative experience or the equivalent combination of education and experience. A Massachusetts certified public purchasing official MCPPO
designation from the inspector general general's office is preferred. Candidates should have superior financial acumen with proven skills in municipal project coordination, human resources management, collective bargaining, procurement, and communication. They should have the
ability to multitask and build collaborative relationships and value transparency in government. Letters of interest and resumes will be accepted until 400 p.m. on Monday, June 1, 2026. Emailed to the attention of the county
administrator, Frank Basler at fbazzler at Plymouth County ma.gov or delivered to 44 Street, Plymouth, Mass 02360. For a job description, please see https
semicolon backwithcountymass.gov backmlash. And for more information on Plymouth County, please visit the county website at www. Plymouth countymma.gov. The county of Plymouth is an equal opportunity employer founded in 1685.
The county of Plymouth is a regional government encompassing 27 municipalities in southeastern Massachusetts. In addition to the registry of deeds offices in Plymouth, Brockton, and Rockland, the county provides regional cooperative purchasing services, municipal dredging, pocket
ticket processing, 4H programming, maintaining courouses in Brockton, Hingham, and Wham, and administers the Plymouth County OPEB Trust, Pecott in addition to many other services and programs. I'll put that in the form of a motion and instruct the county
administrator to post as soon as possible. >> Okay. County administrator session has been read into the record. Uh do I have a second? >> None. Seen. Uh I'll second that >> on the motion. Madam Chair. >> Yep. >> Uh I just had a question. Um first I
appreciate that we're having this uh conversation and discussion in open session. Um, I did a I'm a bit uh surprised uh to see this item on here. Um, and I'm surprised because I think as you both
may recall, we had a secession plan that was approved unanimously by all three of us back in November. It was unanimously approved by the advisory board and by all accounts has been going incredibly well. uh we have uh folks that were properly
vetted uh that are serving uh in those uh expect sorry in those positions uh that are exceeding expectations done exceptionally well done multiple presentations uh and they've received solid reviews from the individuals that they report to. So, I guess other than
simply posting for the job of county administrator, I'm not sure um why we are uh engaging in several of the other items that are noticed here as it relates to posting it. And um I'm
curious to know what the rationale is uh behind that given that we already had this discussion back in November. >> Thank you, Commissioner Valenzola. Uh, and I think if you recall back in January, Commissioner Hanley brought it up uh in session and I believe Shannon
was uh in the meeting at that time and he had asked if uh that position would have to be um revisited or reapplied for and the answer was yes. Um I don't know if Commissioner Hanley, who brought it up uh back in January, wants to
elaborate or um add anything to that. >> No, I I'm fine. Can I have a motion on the floor, Madam Chair, that's been seconded? >> So, we applied for, Madam Chair, through you to council. Um, refresh my memory, there is no mass general law relative to
this position and posting is certainly up for interpretation. Um posting could be as simple as uh the successor u in training uh applying to a simple posting rather than what
appears to be an elaborate reversal of the intended uh succession plan that was previously voted on by this board. >> So noted um there is a motion >> in the opinion of the attorney. >> Yes. So, all I was just going to add was
that I did say that the position um just because someone's a administrator in training, they need to have a formal appointment by the commissioners to be the administrator. What that process looks like is up to you all. >> Okay. So, noted um we have a motion on
the table. Uh I asked for a second. There is no second. Uh so, I will second that. All in favor? >> I >> I thank you. Madam Chair, I will remind you that it is the duty of the chair to ask for yays and nays, and I would respectfully ask that you properly do so.
>> This will be on a roll call. If you give me a second, it'll be a roll call that we're going to uh have right now. >> So, a roll call would be Commissioner Valenzola, >> no. >> Commissioner Hanley, >> yes. >> Commissioner Wright, yes. Okay. Two
yeses, one abstain or no. So, seems okay. uh on the rest of this. Uh so the salary was voted on. Uh we voted on to post the uh position and we vote and now we're going to have the committee make
up of who will be. Go ahead. >> I'm sorry, Madam Chair. I just um Commissioner uh Hanley read the posting, but uh if if we could just have a a vote on the job description as uh as submitted to you all, that's possible.
>> Okay. to do I hear a motion for the uh job description county administrator county of Plymouth. >> So move madam chair. >> I hear a second. No second. I will second that. All in favor >> on the motion. Madam chair. >> Roll call. >> No I'm on the motion. Discussion on the motion.
>> Go ahead. Um so I see that in part of what triggered a complaint on myself uh against my colleagues relative to the uh open meeting law was uh there's a change in the salary uh from 100 to 104 or to
that from what I think was originally presented two weeks ago 105 to 115. So, uh, I'm curious why, Madame Chair, um, you know, one of the hallmarks of us has been our fiscal responsibility. Um, we've long recognized someone starting
in a position new should not start at the same salary as the outgoing individual. Uh, they don't, no matter who it is, they're not going to have the years of knowledge, the ability uh, as the individual leaving. U, and we are also looking for folks to grow into this position. Uh and candidly, if you may
recall about a year and a half ago, you yourself have made a motion based on that perspective to slash the assistant register at deeds pay by over 50%. Uh based purely on that notion that somebody brand new coming in is not
going to possess the same capabilities as um as the outgoing person. Um, so what I'm not understanding is it doesn't make sense to me and and I personally try to hold the fiscal line and also be consistent and treat everybody equally
and fairly. I'm not sure I understand why we deviated from 105 to 115 to now 100 uh to 124. Um, and I think anything higher is just an attempt to tempt people uh who might just be looking for a higher salary at the end of their
career. uh it may not be fully invested in the long-term outcomes of Plymouth County, but I think um myself and others deserve an answer on why we're deviating from what has been the longstanding practice of not paying individuals the same amount as the outgoing person,
especially uh in light of um your previous position slashing the assistant register of deeds salary a year ago. Madam Chair, if I may. Go ahead. >> Um, last week we at the last meeting we did have a public process. Administrator Basler had presented the transition
timeline to us uh on the county commissioner position and Frank informed us that on August 31st he had planned to retire and we made plans uh had a discussion about hiring a new administrator by July 1st. I believe um
per the minutes that I was the only commissioner who suggested that we raise the salary range in open meeting to attract qualified candidates. Frank Basley is an amazing administrator and I hate to lose him but Frank your salary
is where we want to advertise to the community to get qualified people who can do the Frank Basler type of job. And there are people that are out there that have that skill set. Now if we don't advertise for it and we don't put a salary range out there as I had spoken
about in the previous meeting in open session that we want to attract people. So if you expand the pool to try to aspire to get someone equal to Frank Basler in every capacity and maybe we get lucky enough to get someone that might have a little bit bit more
experience or anything that is preferred. So we we're not limiting candidates who have lesser ability or don't have the qualifications of preferred you know doctor not doctorate but MBA I'm sorry masters or better or
MCPPO status those are preferreds. So for us to attract that caliber of person you possess those skill sets there and that's the salary you're at. We were fortunate to get you from the private sector when you came over to the public sector. You had a world of value that
wasn't accounted for when you were first hired from the private sector. I can specifically look to your ability to negotiate with unions, your ne negotiations to put us in with your MCPPO background into the administration of bulk purchasing. I mean, that is
added value and has supported your salary with increases because you had those skill sets. And all I attempted to do in public session was to say, can we raise this a little bit higher? As I recall, no one else participated in the
open session with their comments. So, I will be making a motion when it comes to the minutes to amend um that to reflect that neither uh the chair nor my colleague uh chose to speak in public. So yet we just had come out of an
executive session on a complaint that was filed that saying that we were not following uh the rules. Uh I for one because I was named in that complaint participated fully in public session. So with that I think again I will reiterate
because we're taking this out of order to then restate my position that this is an advertisement to attract people. We don't know who's going to apply. We don't know who's not going to apply, but at least if we can strive for Frank Basler quality or better, that's the
kind of uh candidate pool that I would like to see. And then with the appointment of your committee, we're going to have uh three individuals that are going to make the decision that is non-binding for a recommendation for the board to then again have public commentary on whether or not an
individual is qualified and at what salary range. So that's would be my answer to that. >> Yeah. >> And I just took part in uh being a member on uh going through the process of giving somebody a pay increase who is
a regional director and her pay increase went up to $165,000. So I'm looking at this saying that uh this is what exactly what I've been looking for. I've been saying it from the beginning that I want somebody who has regional services uh under their hat
and able to go forward with that. Uh we have no idea who is going to apply. Uh we don't know what their experience is going to be. So, but I look at the um community and I say we are way under uh
the price range of what we're looking for. Um, so that's what made me uh elaborate a little bit more to the uh administrator and to the treasurer that, you know, I had great concerns that with what we were asking uh we're not going to get the type of person that we're
really needing and looking for. >> So, uh, having that on last uh week, I I think that, you know, we need to be a little more uh in tune of, you know, what's out there and who may apply. So, moving on.
>> No, on that, Madam Chair. Um, so you didn't quite answer the question. I'm not really sure what Commissioner Hanley was just stating there. Um, making presumptions about things. I'm going based on the fact that that the chair seconded a motion to increase the the
pay to a higher level or to be equal to the outgoing administrator when herself last year uh made a motion to slash the assistant register of deeds pay to $55,000 from 112 because the incoming assistant register of deeds would not have so I'm just I
want to make sure I'm clear that a standard we applied to one department head you both seen content to not apply to ourselves. >> Actually, when I did that with the registry of deeds, I had mentioned or I had said to u Mr. Buckley, I thought
that maybe he could bring somebody in uh that has been in the department working with him uh not in the position he was asking for. So, and I would probably even say that I was pressured under you at that time uh about uh what the job salary should have been for Mr. Buckley.
So, anyways, >> chair, >> no, that's not incorrect. But anyways, moving on. Um, >> unnecessary and I will make sure the record reflects >> any more questions about this when we can move on. >> Um, we're going to vote on the positioning posting and position and we're going to vote on a selection of
the committee people that I have in mind that I would like to serve on that committee. So, uh, uh, so we we made a vote on the posting of the position. Uh, as far as I'm concerned, uh, I have three names that I
would like to bring forward to the commissioners, uh, who I would like to see serve on the committee. >> Are we going to vote on the motion on the floor, Madam Chair? >> Interview. >> It's a motion on the floor relative to the salary range. Are we going to vote on that? >> It was already. >> Are we going to vote on that or no?
>> No, we did not. There's a motion and a second on the floor right now. Are we going to vote on >> only for the job description? The salaries already been voted for, right? In the original, >> the posting's been voted for. So in on that motion, madam chair, call the role. >> Yes, I did.
>> Right now you're calling the role on the job description. Yes, article red. >> Okay. I thought we did that. Okay. So on the job description, the county administrator roll call. Commissioner Balenzo >> stay. >> Commissioner Hamley. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Wright. Yes. Okay.
>> Um do you all need me because I I do need to leave in three minutes. Um, do we need her for anything further? I think we're all set. The only part of this we have left is the uh selection committee, Madam Chair.
>> Right. Okay. No, thank you. Thank you all. >> Appreciate your willingness to come in this evening. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Bye. >> Okay. So, uh there'll be a vote on a selection committee uh makeup. So, I am
going to bring forward three names. I will take votes individually for the three people that I have in mind. Uh I'm kind of happy to say that uh I think all three of these people are either a commissioner or have been former
commissioners. So the first person uh I would like to bring forward be uh Commissioner Hanley to be on the committee. So is there any objection or anything? We're uh we'll take a vote on that. Commissioner Valenzola,
>> there's no motion or second on the floor, Madam Chair. >> Okay. So, do we have a motion on the floor to vote the three people in? We're going to go first individually so that there was no question. So, I had
said uh I was going to have you first. >> Okay. So, you're asking for a motion. I cannot make a motion. So, do we have a motion on the floor? >> No. Okay. Um, >> so you can make that motion, madam chair. >> Yes, I will make that motion uh to have
Commissioner Hanley as part of the committee to interview the job description of the uh county administrator. Do I hear a second? I'm going to second it, too. >> No. And that it's a vote of necessity. had asked for a ruling from the
parliamentarian on if I can second the motion as a uh out of the rule of necessity. >> I I would say yes. I will argue that you have multiple times before and are now completely misinterpreting the notion of the rule of necessity. The rule of necessity is only in the event that
there is an absence or a vacancy and things that are requiring uh immediate action such as payroll or an emergency item um that would allow for there to be a meeting outside of the open meeting law window. That is what the rule of
necessity is. Not by not simply being able to not get a motion does not invoke the rule of necessity. Furthermore, uh I would argue in pacet that um it is not a requirement that one of us serves on this search committee. Uh there are 330
million capable Americans who in theory could serve on this committee. So it does not necessarily have to be uh one of us who serves on >> I don't I'm not going to debate it longer. M um Mr. of Melanola. Uh with respect to, you know, past practice, there's always been a commissioner
involved in the hiring. >> To that end, actually past practice because I I did some research um on that uh Commissioner Hanley through the chair to you. Uh and the the individuals that were um a part of the hiring of Mr. Basler were the chairman of the advisory
board, the deputy treasurer, and the deputy register of deeds. So there was no commissioner on the search committee that uh hired >> I believe though as far as >> uh Commissioner Valenzola and uh Frank and Tom was on it the last time when we
hired an administrator. The last time an administrator was hired the search committee was deputy treasurer, deputy register deeds at the time >> and the chairman of the advisory. As far as other employment um there has been past practice where the chair himself
actually hired the two individuals in the audience. So I'd ask to move the hire the three of us the three of us unanimously hire the role. >> The three of us voted unanimously to hire the two not one of the three voted to hire. >> I was just citing past practice. So with that
>> you're not citing past practice. I just gave you the past practice. >> You you sat and hired people. >> All right. >> The three of us voted on it. Commissioner, I'm sorry. >> Right. And we're voting again. paying attention that night. >> So, >> well, I'm curious to understand why we are voting again. >> So, >> because the parliamentarian has ruled
that a vote of necessity was legal. So, I'm asking for >> I'm wondering why we're voting on this to begin parliamentarian >> plan in place. So, vote on unanimous move the uh >> so let me ask a question. Uh Frank, this uh is going out on uh May well it was
May 15th I thought originally which would be the other day. So, we don't really have to vote tonight for the three people. I >> But while we're here, Madam Chair, if I may, we should be voting. >> Okay. You want We delayed the process
because of um the last meeting and now we're we're up against the clock. We have uh an advisory board meeting on uh >> the fourth >> the fourth. So, the sooner the better on the vote. And if uh I'm ruled out of order uh at some future date right now,
a question was asked and given and I move the question, Madam Chair. >> Yeah, on that um >> so I'm going to go back and I'm I'm going to actually instead of doing individually, I'm going to name the three people at once and we'll take one vote on the three of them. I thought it was a better way to do it individually, but uh I'm going to do
>> that would remedy it. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> I'm just >> Yeah. Um I'm going to name the three people that I uh would like to consider. Uh, one would be Commissioner uh, Hanley, second one would be um, register uh, John Buckley and uh, the third would
be Deputy Jeff Welch. Uh, do I hear a motion to accept those three as the committee makeup? >> If I could, Madam Chair, I would just uh um recall the original motion and second and there wasn't a second. So I would
withdraw the original motion of just Commissioner Hley to make it >> withdraw that motion that I uh I had first put out there and amend it to what I just said. Uh I'm going to mention the three people that I feel should serve on
the committee. Uh do I hear a motion on that? >> So I would be seconding that Frank to Yeah. resend. >> Okay. Okay. Be by roll call. There's no motion on the floor currently. Madam chair,
>> I believe I had made the motion. >> I'm sorry. Then I heard no second to your >> I just that seconded. >> You seconded the recision of her individual appointment of you, but there >> that's what was being asked for the by the administrator. >> The chair the chair then read three names of which there was no motion the
subsequent the >> correct >> right. So, um, on the motion, Madam Chair, may I ask why we would not include the incumbent administrator in the search to, uh, bring in a new administrator? >> I don't think that there's really any
uh, reason or rhyme. I just thought that this would be a better committee for me to go forward with. Um, I know that the administrator has uh, a lot on his plate right now. He's getting ready to float on retirement and uh I thought that you know um it would be best to take uh
actually I thought it was a good idea to have uh two former commissioners and a a present commissioner. So, >> but we have I mean again we we we did I just want to remind folks and remind you both that there there was a succession plan that this body put in place in
November. It was voted on unanimously by the three of us. The advisory board voted on it unanimously. Uh not only did they vote on it unanimously, but it was louded by multiple members given the difficulty in in hiring these in this position. Now you both seem quite
determined to reneg on that plan. Um but again it was un you know unanimously uh uh endorsed by the advisory board. I I would appreciate a more thoughtful and better explanation to why if you are
both so insistent on completely undoing a succession plan uh that we put in place that was forward thinking why you are recalcitrant at the idea of having the administrator the individual who has done this job exemplar for 11 years and
I don't say it facitiously I've worked in multiple levels of government I've worked with a lot of folks across our municipalities ities and Mr. Basler is by far and away the most dedicated and hardworking public servant I have ever encountered in my 15 years of of working
in in and around government. So again, Madam Chair, I'm going to press you for a better explanation to why you have omitted him from a search committee for the position that he has beyond exceeded in for 11 years.
Well, first I don't think I owe you any explanation at all about what I do. This is my >> Oh, that's true. You don't. >> So, >> I think you owe the voters and the taxpayers an explanation as to why you don't want to include someone as qualified. >> I think, you know, I appreciate everything the administrator has done. I was being sensitive to him, you know,
finishing up the last few months and and getting ready to go out on his retirement. I you know greatly appreciate everything that he has done and I think he's done a marvelous job and we could never put into words in what he's done. Um so I guess my thought was just my thought and uh that's what
I'm going to go with and I'm not asking you to uh question me and uh since I am the chair I guess I can basically do what I want and that's my thought and what I want to do. Uh and I think that that would be fine with the three that I
had just mentioned. So let's move on. Uh let's not get stuck in this uh right now because >> I think that you call it getting stuck in what is a discussion in open. >> There's a motion on the floor >> and I'm still on the motion question. >> You're not on the motion. And I will say that I think that you
both >> are are sensitive to what you had to discuss in open I'm sorry in executive session earlier and yet any moment of discussion you retreat and don't want to answer questions or as you just so eloquently said madam chair I can do
what I want but remind you your role is to I will remind you your role is to run the meeting and set the agenda. the three of us vote. You don't get to quote do what you want and I'll end my comments on that and feel free to call the vote. >> I already discussed this with the administrator and with the uh treasurer
about who I thought would be I would like to see on the uh committee. So there is a motion on the floor. >> So on that can I I do have a question. There's already motion of order. >> I'm not out of order. I have a question that I would like to direct. There a second on >> the treasurer and the administrator. Were either one of you given the
opportunity to he doesn't have the >> and if asked sir would you have >> I move the question it's not debatable so madam chair call the role please. >> Okay Valenzola >> you have to what are we voting on you you did not get a second you weren't paying attention >> I was you don't just get >> the motion was made and seconded.
>> It was not second there was no second to move the question. So I have a question that I would like to ask. >> So you don't have the floor until the recognizes you. You're out of board. >> Is going to not recognize my question to the administrator for the treasurer. >> There is a motion on the floor. Do I
hear a second? >> No second. Uh I will go ahead and second it. >> On the motion, madam chair to make a roll. >> Commissioner Valenzola. >> On the motion, I would like to ask whether treasur or administer were given the opportunity to serve on the search
committee. >> Commissioner Valenzola, there's a a roll call. >> You need to clarify whether there are two current motions on the floor. Madam chair, you need to clarify which motion we are voting on. >> We >> we have a vote to resend was the first motion that he spoke to and was heard
from. So on that I made a motion to move the question. So with that, you're rescending >> the singular vote. You restated a motion that needs to be restated after the recision and then voted on and he can have his discussion then. So, if you
want to follow the advice of the county administrator to resend that, that's the motion that you want the roll call on right now. It's been made, seconded, and debated. >> Okay. Roll call. Yes. >> But I had further debate. You the the Commissioner Hanley has stated that I am not allowed to have further debate.
>> I did not state that. >> You did. You asked. >> You're on multiple motions. All right. So, on the on the primary motion that's before us, that should be voted on. You'll have a second chance to ask. You layered a motion on top of the primary. >> I didn't make I didn't make that. I
asked a recision the motion. No, you layered a motion on top of that. And I'm mov There's a motion on the floor. Do I hear >> What is the motion on? What motion are we voting on? >> The motion is for the three candidates that I >> the motion to resend. We already did. That is also not the mot.
>> We already did that. The motion that is currently on the floor is to move the question, Madam Chair, which is why I kept asking for clarification, which you obviously were not able to give me because you both layered motion upon motion because you don't want to have a simple conversation or >> it's never a simple conversation with
you. You kept on interrupting the chair when she was trying to make >> never interrupt. So, no wonder it's confusing because you're out of order. >> I'm not out of order. She has not yet ruled me out of order. >> I believe she did. So again, what what are we voting on? >> Madame chair, I'm asking the chair. I'm
not asking Commissioner Hanley, who I know is doing his best to be your chair, >> amend to resend the first uh motion that I had made was uh to do it individually, which I think madam chair rules that the prevailing motion is to move.
>> The motion was to move the question, >> right? >> So you're asking for that vote. >> So now >> has been made and seconded. we have voted on was the three uh people that I chose to be on the committee. Uh and I believe that Commissioner Hanley made a motion on that. >> And Chair, if I may, we still need to
move the question. That's the vote that's before us right now. So motion's been made, seconded, and debated. Now it's time for the vote. >> Okay. So I'm trying to call a roll call, but he just won't. You have to you were unable to clarify what we were voting on
madam chair and given what seems to be transpiring you can understand why I want to be clear on what specifically we are voting on >> so the vote to move the question madam chair call the role please >> roll call I'll do it once again commissioner Valenzola
>> no >> commissioner Hanley >> yes >> commissioner right yes >> number one >> in favor okay >> of what madam chair please state moving The question >> I asked the chair, not Commissioner Handling, Madam Chair. What What was the
2 to1 vote on? >> Commissioner Valenzola, you know, you're really out of order. >> I am not out of order. I'm asking you to clarify what the vote >> move the question on. >> Okay. Now, what do we do, Madison? >> Madam Chair, may I may the recommendation because it's confusing to
everyone at this point to ask the county administrator to guide you through the votes that are before us. So now at his recommendation he said it would be cleaner government for us to resend the previous motion of singular appointment
to a committee that really has no binding on anything other than transparency. So >> with that um you will go through the uh administrator and ask him to explain what's before us. So you have it he's keeping the order over there
>> to make it clean. The next uh the next vote that we'd like is the uh makeup of the committee which um has been moved according to Robert's rules. Uh even though uh Commissioner Hanley's name is on the committee in uh uh parliamentary
uh standing that is okay for him to second uh because it's not an ethics violation. So, you have a motion on the table that's been moved by uh Chair Wright, seconded by Commissioner Hanley for a three member selection committee
of Commissioner Hanley, Register Buckley, and Deputy Treasurer Welch. That is on the table. It's been moved and seconded. >> So, it's a roll call now. >> Call a roll. >> It doesn't have to be because you're all here, but if if you'd like that, that is fine. >> I would like that. Yes. Commissioner
Valenzola. >> Uh, no. >> Commissioner Hanley. Yes, >> Commissioner Wright. Yes. Okay, passes. All right, let's move on. Let's get on to the agenda here. Um, so everything is voted on and cleaned up. And now we're
going to go to the motion for minute meetings May 7th, 2026. Do I hear a motion? Madam Chair, uh I'd make a motion to amend the minutes as presented uh to include the fact that in public
session uh there was a um item on the May 7th agenda that uh asked for a presentation on county administrative and succession and posting. Uh, these minutes reflect that administrator
Basler presented the transition timeline for posting the county administrator position with Mr. Basler staying through August 31st and plans to hire a new administrator by July 1st. Commissioner Hanley suggests a higher salary range to attract qualified candidates.
Administrator Basler will meet with the attorney Resnik to finalize the job description and job posting details and distribute to the commissioners for their comments by May 12th. I would like to add, madame chair, that you would ask for any other public comment on the
county administrator succession plan and job posting and there was no commentary by either Commissioner Valenzola nor yourself and I would ask that that be added to the minutes. >> Okay, >> that's a motion made. >> Y second.
>> You have to inquire. uh Commissioner Balenzola. >> Um on the motion, was there a second on the motion? >> She's asking if you want to second it. >> Oh, no. Um on the I will I do have commentary on the motion. >> So, you can second it. >> Yeah.
>> Okay. Seeing none, I will second it. >> On the motion, Madam Chair, uh given that while this was presented to us uh that that evening, I most certainly did not participate in the commentary. However, I will just note for the public record and for the viewing record and
potentially for the minutes of this meeting that uh there was a considerable amount of conversation that occurred between that meeting uh and uh this meeting that led to certain events transpiring and I don't care if that's in the minutes or not um because it's on a
public record on video. Thank you. >> Okay, so that'll be >> the wrong call the wrong >> Yeah. Uh, other questions? Uh, so, Commissioner Valenzola. >> Um, no. And I will also note that a roll
call vote is is not necessary. Um, in that in order to call a role, you need to call, >> right? But you're not the chair. You're the one calling a roll call. >> Commissioner Hanley ask. What are we voting on? >> If you don't mind clarifying again for me, Madam Chair, what are we voting on?
>> We're voting on my motion. Were you not listening? >> Oh, no. I was listening. I just want to make sure you're there because again she's having a hard time keeping straight and you're trying to run in Commissioner Hanley. So I'm just want to be clear what we're voting on your amendment. >> My amendment. >> Commissioner Hanley's amendment.
Correct. Got it. I'm a on that. >> Okay. >> Commissioner uh Hanley. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Wright. Yes. So move passes to see the >> Okay. So uh that takes care of the minute acceptance. Uh, do I hear a motion to uh vote and accept and approve
CPS forms to be? >> So move, madam chair. >> Do I hear a second? >> Second. >> Okay. All in favor? >> I >> I >> Okay. Do I hear a motion to vote and accept and approve end vouches? >> So move. >> I hear a second. >> Second.
>> In favor? >> I. >> Vote to accept and approve payroll vouchers. >> Second. I'm sorry. Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? I. Five. >> Okay, we're going down now to the municipal leadership survey update. I
believe that is Chris Hefan. Thank you so much for coming forward. >> Madame Chair, commissioners, good evening to you. Um, I'm here to update on the municipal leadership survey that we sent out earlier this spring. While we only received a handful of responses,
the consistency in the feedback is actually quite striking. gives a clear early signal of where local governments are headed in their thoughts in regards to county governments. Across the board, municipalities are describing what appears to be a structural fiscal challenge, not just short-term budget
pressure, but something that's going to be last longasting for three to four years. The main drivers are rising personnel costs, particularly health care, insurance, wages, pensions, and overtime combined with state aid formulas that many feel are not keeping pace with inflation or actual service
demands. At the same time, municip municipalities are absorbing increased costs from state mandates, including public safety training requirements, election administration responsibilities. Without corresponding funding support, a lot of it is becoming an unfunded mandate. Infrastructure
costs are also sharply arising, especially in DPW operations and capital maintenance. In response to these pressures, there is a very strong and consistent interest in regional collaboration. It's something that's been discussed at this table many times. Every responding municipality identified
some form of shared service opportunity. The most common ideas included joint procurement for materials and software, shared public safety, training, data systems, and administrative services. The underlying theme is a belief that economies of scale are not being fully
utilized today. In the short term, municipalities are looking for a stronger county level coordination, especially around administrative service support and helping move stalled infrastructure-based projects forward. Looking longer, there is an interest in what I describe as functional reg re re
regionalization targeted shared services in areas like coastal resiliency, public health inspection services and administrative back office functions rather than full municipal consolidation. The overarching message is that municipalities are reaching the limits of what current funding and rel
regulatory structures can support and they're increasingly seeing regional collaboration as the most practical uh tool moving forward. Giving the given the limited response I would also recommend expanding this outreach into the next phase which I'd be happy to spearhead which would include civics
civic groups and broader stakeholders to better understand both municipal and public perspectives on county level coordination. And I want to take a minute to thank Nancy as well. She was instrumental in getting this out to all the town leaders um and members of the select boards and town council. We could not have done it without her and she was
a huge help. >> She always is. Thank you, Nancy. >> Thank you. >> Just a couple of questions if I may. So Chris, when you um compiled this report, was it based on u the responses from the communities like in writing or did you
have to Okay, so of the 27, how many actually responded? >> Four. >> So can I make a suggestion just to uh give us a better understanding? Would it be possible maybe Frank through you to have both Chris and Tesa uh go and visit
uh those folks, make appointments with the administrators and go over the survey? So they might not have the time to do it, but I think we would be better informed if we uh were able to send you guys out there and maybe an elicit a response because out of this I for one
would like to see some tangible um opportunities. Um, what joged my whole interest in this was something that we talked about in Norolk about weights and measures, not knowing at the time that there was a significant investment by
the commissioners of Norfolk to provide those services in addition to uh monies that were paid by those member communities that were paying a portion share of those uh needs. Um, since we voted on this budget, we've added
$150,000 in regional services. So, that could be something that just say for for the sake of arguing weights and measures was a common theme and if we were to adopt the Norfolk model or maybe invent our own copy of it, we now have $150,000
potentially as seed money to start that program basically starting with employment. I know there are individuals in Plymouth County right now that are doing weights and measures for multiple towns and being paid by those towns, but as a part-time status and not a
full-time employee. That is just one example. Um, but I would like to hear uh because it sounds like most communities are really dealing with bigger issues financially overrides and things like that. If there's a way we can contribute to reducing their bottom line by
something that you find has consensus in the community. Veterans agent is a is a big one that is mandated and they have to pay. However, when I was in Hullbrook as the town administrator, I was able in the absence of an agent to be able to
use the services of a county veterans agent. So, that's just two two suggestions or two experiences that I've had with regionalization after people have asked for this type of exchange of information. >> I would be more than I think I speak for
Teresa as well. I'd be more than happy to uh go out and meet with those if they took this the time to respond. I know it's a very difficult time of year to be both a town counselor and a town manager as well. So, if they took the time to respond, I have I'm excited to go out and um offer them many kind of support that Plymouth County can and uh to
explore new ideas. I think what where we're headed as a country and really globally is um a postcoid economy where um we're going to have to be very creative. We're going to have to work together and I think that this county is at the spearhead of that and as we were during the during the COVID crisis. So I
am I would be excited to undertake that and we'll update you as as it occurs. >> Thank you through you, Frank. >> Super idea. >> Thank you. >> Any further questions? >> Great presentation. Thank >> uh through just no a quick one uh through the chair. Um >> what four um what four communities did
respond to? >> So I they were actually stable in your in your packet. U I I can get I can get that answer back to the office. >> Yeah, no problem. I think it was handover Rockland Situit. >> I think there were actually two from Situate. Oh,
>> two from Handover Rockland, two from Situate. >> Okay. >> Thank you very much. >> Very good. Thank you. >> Okay. So, grant application update. >> Right. Good evening, Madam Chair. >> Evening. Um,
who knows? Um, this is just a quick update on some grant opportunities that I've been pursuing um on behalf of the county. The first is the ADA improvement grant that opened May 1st and offered funding up to approximately $50,000 for accessibility related improvements. One
of the more attractive aspects of this grant was the opportunity to use previously completed projects as matching funds, which could have allowed us to leverage work the county has already paid for. Before moving forward, I did reach out to the state to confirm our eligibility um as county owned
facilities and unfortunately they did inform me that the county and state owned facilities were not eligible under the current guidelines. Um I have to say I was disappointed as this would have been a strong opportunity to support accessibility improvements without
relying solely on our funding. The second is a workplace safety grant which is expected to open June 1st. And this program typically provides funding up to approximately $25,000 and focuses on workplace safety improvements,
training, equipment upgrades, and hazard mitigation. This is also the grant that I had previously informed the commissioners in attendance at the Mass Association and County Commissioners lunchon encouraging the awareness as it becomes available. I have marked it on
my calendar as it's available June 1st. Um we have several eligible areas that would benefit from this funding and I do plan to move forward with the application once that grant opens. Uh this grant will support a wide range of workplace safety training including
emergency response and first aid, fire and electrical safety, fall protection, equipment operation, hazardous material handling, regulatory compliance and other job specific safety issues. Um I reached out to the the state also discussed eligibility and expectations.
Um I spoke with a Mary Annaby. She is the manager of safety works training program and she did note that the awards are typically well below the maximum $25,000 amount. Um so I do want to um
set realistic expectation as they try to award um every single person that applies. Uh currently right now that's they believe it's going to be an $800,000 grant in generally at least 200 different um areas to apply.
>> Is that on safety? >> Oh safety work training um OSHA regulations and a lot of training that we are actually required by law to to um to um accommodate. So that >> I think we've done a lot of training haven't we through uh with the
maintenance and everything through that. We do have a lot of uh new employees. Um and so OSHA law says that you do have to retrain everybody. Um and I believe those that have already been trained is good for five years, but you do have to so um train any new employees.
>> Um recently I attended the recent Mass Municipal Cyber Security Summit uh where I learned about an additional funding opportunity through the Resilient Massachusetts program. This program is designed to support cyber security resilient initiatives and preparedness
effects for eligible public entities. So after following the summit, I did reach out to cyber trust services to inquire about our eligibility requirements for counties and the process for obtaining the required scope of work documentation. I have since heard back
from their office and we will be moving forward with submitting our scope of work details uh for their review which is a requirement. Um, this opportunity would provide additional resources to strengthen the count the county cyber security infrastructure, uh, improving
resiliency planning and support future technology and security initiatives. Um, I also identified some potential food advocacy grants that I'll be pursuing uh with partnership with OCPC um once our food action plan would be
completed. Um, this is actually a federal funded grant. Um it's the FF FMPP grant uh which means farmers market promotion program which is under the umbrella of the local agricultural market program. Um finally I've also
been working on potential solar funding. I reached out to um the state again and uh there's a DOER's green community program which appears to be our best option right now for a municing solar program. And as always, I will continue
to research as many um opportunities that were eligible to be uh wherever possible. >> So some of these grants uh could be even under the 4. Uh >> yeah, through you um Teresa has come
down and talked with us about different areas where we could collaborate a little bit more, bring in some funding. >> Good. Okay. Very good. Thank you. >> This >> any questions? To that end, when we're out at MMA, the um US agricultural department actually has monies for uh if
you're getting into your resiliency programming for c uh capital improvement for bonds and silos and things like that might be something if as you move forward in that, you know, grant space that you're in collaboration with um old
county planning council and >> getting a barn. >> Yeah. Well, the the gentleman said, you know, no one's applying, >> so it could be an opportunity for us. So, thank you. >> Very good. >> Thank you. >> I just want to thank Sorry. I just want
to thank you uh Teresa for your for your effort with this. Um grants are not easy as you very well know and um I know that with your tenacity and capability, you'll be on it and we'll see some good results. So, thank you. Have >> a little bit of pumps. >> Absolutely. Thank you.
>> Okay. Very good. Thank you. Do we have anything to the American Rescue Plan? Okay. >> Didn't think so. Didn't see anything on the table. Uh extension services. >> Welcome back. And you were missed. >> Thank you. Yes. I'm sorry that I've missed the last several meetings. I do um
>> you've been very busy. >> Yeah, it's it's been a really busy time of year. I do want to um thank you all for the approval of the budget, particularly with the extension department. We'll look forward to uh FY27 and getting a jump start on a few things and and maybe getting a new uh employee as well. So, that will be
wellreceived. Uh we have been out and about. I even myself have had to jump in with the team and pinch hit, if you will, for um some school programs. we've been in high demand and I'm happy to say that by the end of June, the end of the school year, we will have hit every elementary school in Brockton with some
sort of um programming either on pollinators or our animal adaptations program. Um having been uh at one of the Brockton elementary schools last week there. It's tremendous what we're doing. I was actually thrilled to be there even though exhausted having 140 second graders that day uh go through our
program. But uh the work that Kathy, Cheryl, Meg, and Blake are all doing in the schools is incredible. So um I just wanted to give a shout out to them. Myself and Meg Riley have been working hard um with Frank, Chris, and Teresa on the OCPC food action plan. We've been doing a little bit behind the scenes to
fill in the gaps um on the carrot portion of the project. Uh filling in questions that went unanswered through some of our ongoing meetings with the community, obviously specifically around agriculture and farming. So we've been doing that with the Marian Institute. Um and then trying to help with some
additional scoring that again as a group we won't be able to get to. So we'll look forward to the results of that. And everybody has really just been out. It was great to have that warm weather past couple of days. We got some plants in
over at the farm. Our UMass intern will be starting I believe the first week of June and then fair season comes. So you know how busy we'll all be. Ashfield will be coming before we know it. >> Before we know it, we're already planning theme this year um across the
board for the fair for anyone who's interested is um celebrating the 250th birthday though. >> Very nice. >> Very good. >> We'll all be themed. We might give up the green a little bit to go with red, white, and blue this year only. >> Very good. Okay. Any questions?
>> Uh through you, Madam Chair. Um on June 4th, we're having advisory. Can you speak about the candidates that will presenting to advisory? >> Sure. So, we have the two 4ers that were um able to speak at the Massachusetts Agriculture Day at the state house back in March. The first one is Molly Quinn.
She's a resident of Middleboro. Uh she attends Bristol County Agricultural High School and she's going to talk about her experiences particularly on national 4 trips and experiences with her livestock programs. Um she shows beef cows, sheep,
rabbits. Uh so she is going to speak a little bit more to that and the national opportunities that she has had as a result of that. Our other cyer her name is Mary Riley. She's 17 years old. She's currently a junior at Whitman Hansen High School and she does not really love
agriculture um but has a little twist on how forage has come to make her appreciate things and a different understanding of you know what agriculture looks like and how important it actually is to everyone even though you might not love dirt or animals. So, we'll get her interested. >> I won't we won't steal too much more of
that, but they're looking forward to coming up for the meeting two weeks. >> Awesome. Very good. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you so much. Keep up the good work. >> Okay. The registers report. Can't see you over there. >> Hiding behind them. >> Hiding behind the podium.
>> So, a couple things to add. Um, Christians, from our last meeting today, we had our first training session. Um we've had gone through transitions of employees.
Um we had nine assessors full house today. Uh learning how to efficiently search our records and particularly in their job is valuing property based upon other sales. Um the full house scheduled
for our June session. Nine people again. We're pausing for July and August and we already have people signing up for September. So um the other project um that came to a completion was our transcription
project um over many years. We um been doing that project with our vendor now known as Numo. Great Basel was very helpful over the years in putting a lot of that out to bit under different
names. That's how fast the business changes. But we now have from 1685 to 1890. Um so that when you look at the beautiful handwriting of those days, there's a button at the top of the page.
You if you hit that button, the the printed document comes up. very helpful historians and genealogologists, other people that love history. So, our project is done. Frank, took a lot of years, over many bids to do that. And
thank you for your help. Right. >> Mr. Buckley, do you still have the um different towns that come in and display their portions? And >> we kind of we stopped that during CO maybe as we get >> was it that long ago? It seemed like it was just they were just there. We we
over the years we had probably a dozen of the town historical societies come in and >> um show off their um history. >> Um and
we did pause it. Right now we just have what was um in those spaces what was done during the 400. So right >> I think we can make a reision to that. If you have a suggestion, let me know. >> Yeah, it was it was good to have. I
thought it was very interesting. And you know, I don't know if you have much of uh field trips for the young kids that come through there. >> We the Irish kids come through. We had >> just Irish. >> We had a Irish historian come through with the
last week from Kill Kenny and Oh, >> we enjoyed it. We had a bunch of people from the Mayflower Society come in today. There's about a hundred Mayflower Society people coming through the building on the
Colonial Records piece of it >> in September. So, as long as we keep doing our regular job, we can handle those things. >> Very good. >> Upon real and the Red Hat Society. >> Oh, yeah. The red hat. Oh, that's that's back. >> Yeah, they're back. I have to bring my
red hat out. >> Um, yeah, they like to tell our story. Sometimes they want to know how the registry works, >> right? >> And a lot of times they're just interested in the clone history. >> I try to promote uh wherever I go. I
think there's so much history there and I, you know, even our our records that are there, so I definitely try to get them down >> for um historical societies like the town of Rochester. >> Yeah. you know, and people like that that never really get a lot of visitors.
The fact that they can display it in a place that gets public views. >> They're thrilled with it. >> Thank you. >> Well, let me know when you have another Irish day or Irish people coming out. I like to be a part of that. >> Red hat to the next. >> I'll bring my red hat, too.
>> Okay. Very good. Thank you. Uh, treasur's report. Madam Chair, >> I hope you uh all had a chance to read the article from the social news that I sent around. Yes. >> After the last meeting. >> It was great. >> It was It was really very good.
>> Yes. >> Uh I did want to let you know that I've received at least five or six follow-up emails >> from constituents thanking the county for its fiscal responsibility, you know, fiscal leadership. uh they were impressed with how fable
we've been and to remarked on the amazing uh liability reductions that we've been able to effectuate in a short period of time. Many of them commented that they wished we would take control over the town budgets. Uh that's why we're not going to say who they all came
from. uh but to a to an individual they were very impressed with what uh the team has been able to do in terms of its budgeting and its responsible administration of county funds and resources. Um I just was thrilled
because today we got our update literally today from the administrative side of Peacot if you could pass. So this is through April. >> Thank you.
>> Um >> and so I would direct your attention again to investment return. Uh obviously this is not always going to happen. We only had a one month return of 6.81%. That's great for a year, let alone in
one month. But what really is remarkable is our one year 22.40% return in our annual return over a threeyear, fivey year in 10 years. So if you have been with county press over the last 10 years, your money has returned
10.37% each year. Um we have scoured >> other investment vehicles to find anything that matches it. Can't find anything. Um and just looking at the results for our members.
I know Quincy College is always uh one that we like to pay attention to because they were a fairly early adopter. By way of example, uh now Quincy College has had uh greater lifetime earnings
than they had in totally fun. So Quincy College has put in to this program 1.984 and has returned an investment $2.7 million. >> It's incredible. >> Um and so the stories are are very similar uh up and down the uh the
information uh spectrum here. But for Plymouth County, um our modest investment of $3 million has returned 1.682 million >> uh over that period of time. Remember, we didn't get it right in. We didn't have the resources at the time, but got
in as soon as we could a couple months later. >> Um and so just looking at for the month of April, we returned $300,000. Wow. which is more than we put in each of our singularly in each of our first five years in one month.
>> Wow. >> In one month, we returned more than we put in individually each year for the first five years. So, >> that's not always going to happen. >> No, >> it's a very good month, which is why all I'm going to be talking about. Yeah. >> Uh
uh but it really if if if a governmental entity is not part of the public process, it could be. They this month shows they really miss them. Uh we again we don't advertise. It's all word of mouth. uh and we understand many
communities get uh very comfortable with where they are >> but they have really missed out on an opportunity and it's only going to continue to get better because we continue to figure out ways to drive down fees. We continue to to find ways to innovate uh cutting edge opportunity
here uh and just really a remarkable track record that we should all be very proud of. Uh so uh I couldn't wait to get this report in front of you and uh was glad you had a meeting today so that we could discuss this and of course I can answer any questions but want to
highlight that 10 year annualized return of 10.37% that will get in the record a one-year return of 22.40% and a one month return of 6.81%. >> It's just amazing how the years go by. We've been in it 10 years. We adopted it
on October 6 of 2015. That's when we put our first contribution in, right? >> Yep. So, it's been >> Wow. That flew by. >> It did. And remember, our first contribution was just $50,000, >> right? >> We were all excited when we got over $100,000 a year contribution. >> Even still, we're averaging about
$125,000 a year. But just shows by steadily contributing that much over that period of time, >> you know, our assets have now grown to here 4.707599.58. >> Honestly, if we'd been able to have this conversation and and asked anybody
individually where you thought we would be with our $50,000 contribution on October 6, 2015, none of us would have guessed anything about 4.7 million. I think they were just questioning it back then. We didn't know how many people, right? We didn't know how many people would adopt it, how many people would
come in, how the investment portfolio would work. We thought we had a very uh workable product. We thought we had an exceptional product. We just we I don't think even we could have anticipated uh this performance.
>> Um how many how many do we have in it? >> So, we're up to 35 now. >> 35. >> Yes. the most recent uh entity that had joined is old calling planning council >> and they've already seen in lifetime earnings of 286. >> Yeah. Yeah. They said a nice day with no
one as well. >> Yeah. >> Very good. >> Any other questions? >> Just a comment, Madam Chair. >> I may. >> Yeah. >> Um I think that this is an incredible return, treasure, and I I want to lo you
and the key uh steering committee. Is that the correct term there? Thank you. Um when you consider the volatility that the markets have had these last several months and even year, uh the fact that this has held at 6.81% in a month at
22.4% and I'll emphasize your point 22.4% 4 0% uh over the last year given those market volatilities. Uh goes to show the wisdom of the folks that have been involved in in managing this and the fact that the
county itself is positioned as well as it is um with the wi with what we have now as our end is incredible. Just a rand random question that's popped into my head as I was just making this this statement and I swore it was only a statement but now it's a question.
communities that are participating in Peacock uh when they're being rated for a bond rating. It does this go into consideration for their bond rating that >> Oh, absolutely. >> That's so there's another point I think that can be made to communities. If you're not in what I always butcher what
what you you like to say is if you're not in it, you should be or something. maybe say a lot more harshly than that. But uh but to that end, I think if there's a community out there that's I mean again other post-employment benefits is a multi-billion dollar piano hanging over the head of pretty much every government entity in the
Commonwealth and beyond. Um you can get involved with Peacock, bring your investment over to us, start covering and start prepaying that. You see an annualized investment return of 22.4% and you improve your bond rating. I can't think of anything better than
that. So thank you. You'll recall the story and I know Commissioner Henley is involved with this as well. One of our early towns came in uh and just by simply joining us improved their bond rating uh from single A to double A while they were building the school >> and just on building the school alone
save $3.75 million in debt obligation. >> When they did anything with OPED and that community now I'm pleased to report uh has a value in their oped. They put in 2.5 million. Their OPED is worth 4.6 million. They've had 2.132 lifetime
earnings and all the projections that act did at the time >> when they were giving them a higher bond rating have been exceeded. >> Wow. >> Right. >> So we outperformed even the actuarial expectations of the people that were joining us 10 years ago. >> Incredible.
>> Yeah. It's it's a it's a great story. So we'll get to tell it. I appreciate you listening, but I'll continue to try to tell wherever I can. >> We're still able to bring on more talents and it's not closed. It is not non and this is part of a unique feature.
>> It's only open to governmental entities in Barcel North and Plymouth County. >> Yeah. >> So people read about this and I get calls from in fact I just got a call from >> community north of Boston asked if they
could be in and I say no. because again we want to make sure we're providing the service level that we need to provide that we're available that we are focused in on the folks that are part of of this effort. >> The commissioners uh at the time when we adopted this I think were were wise to
accept the recommendations to limit it to those four mix it geographically. We're partners in a lot of other things. Um, and so, uh, in fact, we have we have a lot of adopters from, uh, Bristol and from Barsville County, a couple from
North County, but hopefully as they hear of it again, it becomes literally a no-brainer. >> Let's read amend. Yeah. >> Uh, treasur, great news. Uh my question is does it make sense for for us now to maybe entertain a public relations
campaign touting that success and just sending it out to those counties and those agencies to attract at least a conversation or a visit. You know, I mean 38 people are going to watch this on YouTube tonight and then the wide footprint of the electronic media up in
Norwell handover area. Um, can we take this and turn it maybe with funds from Pecott or from you know whatever is available to promote it to do a sales marketing kind of event. >> We do and just to keep I'm remiss in not
mentioning this every quarter we do an update to all the government of work. We send a notice a press release a a portfolio. This is interesting because because and I think Commissioner Valenzola made this observation. While
we represent 521,000 people in Plymouth County, our constituency are really those that are engaged, the members of the Suckleman, maybe the administrators here. The group we need to engage are the treasurers, the administrators, and the board of
Sleman. So unfortunately, a big uh push to the general public is not going to be that helpful. our struggle and this is where please >> well that's what I meant I wasn't talking about the individual because they don't know that many posts >> we send direct emails to them we follow
up the phone calls um we let them know of our performance which is exactly they do the research and they can see and then it's easier for them to stay where they are >> make a change how do we >> how do we and I'm asking this >> well I would say have an event you know
you could go right over the Shaw center as an example over in Brockton and have an event to talk about the success of it, educate people because if we can get administrators and decision makers that make the actual decision, it's the treasures that are not appointed that um
they have to listen to the executive or you know the the body that allows them. But a lot of issues within the counties are town treasurers that are elected. So you're dealing with the Bartholomews of the world and others that are private sector people going after public sector
investment and those um treasuries are authorized to entertain um those investments. So is there a way just in a sales and marketing pitch to have an event? >> We we had one at Stone Coin. Uh we've done it three times now and invited
everyone to come. don't get people that come and are interested and again run into the same >> but have you have you had the success that you just talked about I mean this is it's six 6% return in one month >> yeah the challenge of doing it so we do
it regardless of that level of performance because our overall performance is so good I'm always reluctant to do it just after a month this good because it's not going to >> it's going to level up right >> I'd much rather do it at a month where we had maybe 1% When when was the last event? Yeah.
>> Uh so it was last fall. Uh we had 30 folks come. Um but we only had one person join as a result of that. It took us I'll give you an example and I won't mention the entity but I think you folks may be familiar with this entity recent
joy. It took us three years of meeting with them and conversations and you know they would have us in front of one committee and then another committee and then and then they finally joined and they're like I wish we' done it years ago. Um so we'll continue to do that.
Um, you know, I think as you're out and about and you're wondering, you know, what other things we should talk about, this is definitely something that should be on the tip of your tongue with everybody you're talking about >> because you're engaging with those those stakeholders and say, you know, hey, it's your community and you have a list of which ones are in.
>> If you're not in pe, >> right? >> Exactly. >> Maybe that's something we should think about. I know we have the usually the select board and we usually have, you know, a lunchon for the managers and stuff. What about the treasurers?
>> You know, I I like that idea. I do because there are other ideas that we could pick from them. >> So that might be a fall or spring thing where we had done >> just invite the treasurer, right? >> Pick their business. >> Sure.
>> Great. >> Absolutely. Thank you. >> You're welcome. Anything else? >> I don't have any more questions. Anybody else? No. >> No. >> All right. >> Thank you. Thank you, everyone. >> Thank you. >> Okay. We have the administrative report. >> Great. Um
just want to remind everybody two weeks from tonight will be the um advisory committee meeting. Uh we're meeting at 4:00 uh as per past practice and the exec committee will be in at 5 and then the advisory committee will be in at 6.
It's an in-person meeting. Uh the agenda um you sent out the agenda. Oh, tomorrow morning will be the updated uh agenda uh with um backup material. Nancy does a great job getting that out and then tracking to make sure that we reach
quorum. Uh and we've been communicating with Chair Towns and the advisory committee chair on uh everything. Um >> and and we also have the treasurer presenting that night. Is that correct? Yes. So, what I've been asked to present on was the retirement board sending out
the funding signal. So, the timing is going to be key. They're still asking about that. And then, of course, I'll do the budget. >> Sure. >> Great. >> So, uh that's all, Madam Chair. I've been very busy uh working with the teams uh and getting things uh out and
organized and spring cleaning with the uh maintenance team and uh outside uh coordination. You'll see the the outside of the building looks great. a little bit of rain and some mowing and cleanup. Uh the teams have been working really hard on that. >> Thank you.
>> Are we using any um help from I know we used to use some of the uh different organizations to come in and help clean up? I know Mr. Ceden used to bring them in a lot, but are we still using them? >> Uh we are not. Uh it's not it's not
available anymore. A lot of those lower level offenders that used to be uh required for community service aren't given that or they're different um avenues now. So, we take advantage everywhere we can. We've done some
projects with the sheriff. We used to have community service do some cleaning. Uh regrettably, it wasn't consistent enough to make the buildings look good. So uh we are working with our team uh to make sure they get gone along with uh some vendors
>> and the the buildings have never looked better inside. >> Fantastic. You know big big difference from you know years ago. Uh also I know some of the vocational tech schools uh have different horicultural and uh
things that they have groups that will go out and beautify or do gardening or something. Have we ever uh looked into any of them? >> So again, it's a consistency issue. So you can't just work with a a professional vendor. Uh you know, this month, this month, not that month, not
this month. So because of school vacations and because of other projects and finals, uh the consistency of high schoolers is not there to to meet the needs of the the um appearance that the courts are looking for.
>> Great. But that it's a great idea. We always are looking we have a very creative team uh Superintendent Wedge and Assistant Superintendent Spear and uh and working with Teresa uh our assistant county administrator
Bernizaro. Uh they just look at every option and ways to get as much uh uh mileage as they can for every dollar spent. Sometimes uh these groups at the vocational schools, they have projects that they're willing to take on and you
know they have a plan and and uh so I was just wondering if they would be eligible or if we were able to use them in any >> Madam Chair >> weekly. Yes, I'm sorry. >> Yeah, I should be asking you. >> No, no, I I just wanted to say that u me Riley is part of the uh advisory board
for social vocational tech, right? and we have tried to get them for a couple of projects and it is a little bit difficult to get it all scheduled. They are going to help us with a small project at the Marshfield Fair this summer. Okay. >> Um but we you know again we have to provide the materials. It's a little bit
of a um scheduling >> puzzle >> to get them. But you know he's she's on and she is I'm sure could speak on behalf of anyone if there was a project that was appropriate that lined up. So I was just wondering if we had if they had
like a plan if we could you know the materials and stuff that they needed if we could get that ahead and you know be able to provide them with that. >> It will it just it does have to be very specific and line up with part of their you know curriculum pieces as well. So and transportation is al also a factor
>> and then we have courouses so security is an issue and working at certain times is an issue. >> So it it it's a good idea. Um, and we've had Eagle Scouts do projects, >> so we're always looking, but it the the shoe doesn't fit every single time.
>> So, we do look where we can. >> Very good. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Madam Chair, if I may, just a housekeeping matter. Um, I was just over uh reading over the posting that we voted on tonight and I'm wondering uh if
it makes sense to extend the time from June 1st to June 15th, noting that today is the 21st by the time we get it out there, giving people time to respond. Uh, I would just make a motion that we
extend it till um letters of interest and resumes to June 15, 2026. I'll put that in the form of a motion. >> Okay. Um, do I hear a second? >> On a parliamentary procedure, the first motion that needs to be made is a motion
to reconsider the item. Those cannot be one motion. >> I'm making a motion to amend. So, >> you cannot do that. We've already voted on the item. You need to >> I'm voting to amend. >> To amend what? >> The date. Not the posting. Just the date. You
>> You can't We voted on the posting. In order for that to be gerine, you need to make a motion to reconsider that item. >> Your opinion, Frank, >> it it's an extra vote or two. It's probably better than the discussion. >> Okay, that works for me. Um, so I I will
ask to reconsider uh the motion of uh approving the administrator's version of the county commissioner's position. Uh, should I further state to your satisfaction the 15th or? >> Well, my satisfaction, Commissioner Hanley, it's Robert's rules and open
meeting law. So, it >> says letters of interest and resumes will be accepted until 4 p.m. on Monday, June 1st. Uh, email uh to Frank Basler. So, you're trying to extend that. >> So, he's he's saying that I should make the motion and Frank agrees that uh it's
better to, you know, do it twice, I guess. So, the first motion is to reconsider. >> Reconsider >> to reconsider. So that's the proprietary motion. So it needs a second. >> Second. >> Okay. Do I hear a second? >> Second. >> Okay. >> Thank you. All in favor?
>> I. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> And now I will make a motion to amend um and readopt u the date of June 15th and the posting uh for the county commissioners admin county administrator's position.
>> Okay. So do I hear a second? >> No second. I'll second that. Madam Chair, >> I would like to ask um the question that I was asking previously were the were the treasurer and the administrator
afforded the opportunity to be a part of the search committee for the uh county administrator position. >> What was that? Want to say that again? >> On the motion, >> I will ask the question that I I asked previously that went unanswered. were
the treasurer and the administrator, but perhaps more specifically the administrator since it's a relevant position for him afforded the opportunity to be on the search committee for the county administrator position. >> We already had the committee that we voted on.
>> I'm asking a question on the motion which you just voted on to reconsider the subject matter. So it is a gerine question to the notice item on the agenda that we are discussing. So again I'll ask was the of which the search committee is also a part of that line.
So again I'll ask uh the question was the county administrator afforded the opportunity to serve on the search committee for the county administrator position that he is vacating after 11 years. >> Yes.
>> Is that true to Mr. Basler? If I may, chair, um, this the reconsideration is around the posting language. >> Okay. >> Um, and it's not around the makeup of the because they were actually different votes.
>> This is on his uh motion, right? >> This is on the motion to commission. >> Correct. Um, he did motion to reconsider and I seconded the entirety of the agenda item. >> No, he motioned. Well, >> the motion I made was relative to the
posting as advised. So, you know out of >> the entire agenda item is germaine because that's what we are discussing as a part of the reconsideration >> but I understand that the chair does not want to answer the question and I think that that speaks for itself. So um
that's all I have to say. >> Okay. So I do do I hear a motion to adjourn? >> Madam Chair, I think we need to vote on that motion. >> Oh, I thought we did. I'm sorry. Um all right. So we'll vote on the motion that Commissioner Hanley has on it. Do I hear a second?
There's already a motion and a second on the floor. Madam Chair, >> you call for second. >> I second. I'm sorry. I You threw me off with uh with that. So, uh >> the vote >> to vote by roll call. >> Yep. Okay. So, Commissioner Valenzola,
>> no. >> Okay. No. Commissioner Valenzola, Commissioner Handler, >> yes. >> Commissioner Wright, yes. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. >> Okay. Madam Chair, may I make a motion to adjourn in memory of Congressman um Bonnie Frank who passed away after 32
years of service to the district in the county. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I Okay, very good. >> By roll call, it's an adjourn. We was a motion. >> You call the law. >> Yep. Commissioner Valenzola,
>> there was a motion to adjourn in the memory of So, we're making the motion to adjourn by roll off.