Yes. >> 30 seconds. I'm going to start recording. Scrag in. Greg is on. >> No, no, but he's on. >> Yes. >> President and accountif Mr. Chairman. >> Oh, I see. It's so small on the top of
the screen. I couldn't see it. >> You like to have you better school? >> Yeah. No, no, I didn't. I just I didn't see him either way. That was all. That's why I was wondering if he was there. I was I see according
we >> call this meeting to order. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States United States of America to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with
liberty and justice for all. >> Okay. Okay, please note all meetings are recorded and broadcast live on YouTube.com and red disseminated to the local access channels for potential rebroadcast and also noted participating remotely is Commissioner Hanley this
evening. Uh first item on the agenda minutes November 6th, 2025 and November 17th, 2025. Motion by Commissioner Hanley. Second by Commissioner Wright by roll call Commissioner Hanley. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Wright, >> yes. >> And Commissioner Valenzolei, yes. CPS
forms as presented. >> Move approval. >> Second. >> Motion by Commissioner Hanley. Second by Commissioner Wright. By roll call, Commissioner Hanley. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Wright. >> And Commissioner Valenzolei. Yes.
>> I'll make a motion to vote and accept approve uh vendor vouches. >> Motion. Commissioner Wright. >> Second. >> Second. Commissioner Hanley. By roll call. Commissioner Hanley. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Wright. >> Yes. >> And Commissioner Valenoli. Yes. >> Motion to accept and approve payroll vouches.
>> Second >> motion by Commissioner Wright. Second by Commissioner Hanley. By roll call. Commissioner Hanley. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Wright. >> Yes. >> And Commissioner Allen. Yes. Vote to approve holiday stipen for Plymouth County employees employed as of November 1st not to include the commissioners.
>> Motion. So move. >> Motion by Commissioner Wright. >> Mr. Chairman, I must abstain from this vote. I have asked the uh administrator to read a statement. >> That yep, that is understood. I will second Commissioner Wright's motion. Mr. Basler, >> I just wanted to write a disclosure by
uh Commissioner Hanley that he sent to me. I am writing to disclose to you that I will not be voting and will abstain from participating when the employee holiday stipen vote comes up for discussion this evening, December 4th, 2025. It's posted on the Plymouth County Public Commissioners agenda. The reason
for my abstension is because I want to avoid the appearance of impropriy due to the fact that my brother Matthew V. Hanley is employed by Plymouth County Treasurer's office as a special assistant to the treasurer. And he asked that I write read this statement into the record uh when the uh uh when the
vote comes up. >> Uh statement accepted. Uh motion and there being a second by roll call. Commissioner Hanley. >> No, >> you want to abain. >> Correct. >> Yep. So, Commissioner Hanley abstain. Commissioner Wright. Yes.
>> And Commissioner Valenzola. Yes. >> Also, uh just note uh that uh the commissioners are not uh that are uh uh accepting the uh stipen either. The list is in your packet. I just uh missed saying that earlier. Well, yeah. I think
it was included in the not to include the commissioners when I read the uh but I appreciate that clarification, Mr. Basel. Yes, the commissioners uh being elected didn't make sense. And I do have as a second part just a uh letter that uh
great from the commissioners uh that will go out with the uh with the uh bonus state with the statement um and drafted that uh if it meets your approval and you can sign it, we'll have that go out with the uh with the receipts for the each employee.
>> Yeah. And I think as we've tried to do every year, uh there's been a lot of shared sacrifice from everyone in the county top to bottom. Um I think as we read about a lot of the financial straits that many of our colleagues in
municipal government find themselves in. Um, I think that this is an incredible thing that we're able to do for a second straight year uh for the team members that work so hard day in and day out uh to make Plymouth County tick and uh candidly shared in that sacrifice. They
took many years of zero raises. Um they've uh they took furls at one point uh in in a lot of their tenures. So, uh, in doing so, it it it allowed the county, uh, to stabilize, uh, the budget to a point now where, uh, we're able to,
as best as we can, and we're able to do it again this year, offer this, uh, holiday bonus, this Christmas bonus, uh, to our team members who top to bottom um, sacrifice so much to allow the county to be here. and and it's not lost on me in the context of municipal
governments having significant budgetary challenges that they're facing that Plymouth County's smart conservative budgetary practices um have enabled us to be able to do this for our employees. So, I want to thank Frank, Tom, and uh Treasurer O'Brien and Register Buckley
and their teams um for that work because that would not have happened uh without that collaboration and everybody else in the room and all the employees I'm sure at home that are dutifully watching. Um all right, next item on the agenda. Vote to approve Plymouth County snow
removal contracts for fiscal year 25. >> Motion so moved. >> Motion by Commissioner Wright. Second. >> Second by Commissioner Hanley. By roll call, Commissioner Hanley. >> Commissioner Hanley.
>> Uh, Commissioner, you're you're muted. If you can hear. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Hanley. Yes. Commissioner Wright. Yes. And Commissioner Valenzolei. Yes. Thank you. Vehicle bid membership pricing and letter. Mr. Basler. Yes. Uh we're very happy uh uh
actually the vehicle bid again uh in part uh mostly to uh NY's hard work and a really good deal offering for our member towns and municipalities and cities uh is running uh ahead of budget.
Uh we uh this time of year the program is a calendar year program. So, this time of year, we put out uh uh uh uh membership letters along with an invoice for payment. Uh we're asking uh that a
small increase on the on the um fee be uh approved. We are going from $2 uh uh $19 to $239 as the suggestion, which uh last increase was in 2023. It's
less than a 3% increase per year. This small fee which is uh paid by one department in the town allows all the towns departments uh to purchase through us. So it's probably one of the best values around and that uh enables them
to save literally thousands of dollars on each vehicle that they purchase. >> Excellent. And that is not just Plymouth County towns, correct? That is uh >> almost uh almost 300 towns in municipalities from uh Maine to Connecticut.
>> Excellent. Excellent work. We appreciate that. >> Okay. Um so do we have um a motion? >> Motion so moved. >> Motion by Commissioner Right to approve the vehicle bid membership pricing and ladder. Do I have a second? >> Second.
>> Second by Commissioner Hanley by roll call. Commissioner Hanley. >> Yes. Commissioner Wright. >> Yes. >> And Commissioner Valenzolei. Yes. Okay. Next item. Vote to amend pricing for 2026 model year vehicles for the Pull County Commissioner vehicle procurement
contract. Central Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram of Rem. >> Motion. So moved. >> I have a feeling this a red one. >> Oh, it's a red one. So just don't >> I don't have to do all just read. >> You can read them all if you want. If
you want. >> I don't think we will. uh a regular meeting of the county commissioners holding that Plymouth of the 4th day of December 2025 voted to approve the 2026 model year pricing of the following vehicles manufactured by the Chrysler
Dodge Jeep Ram Motor Company uh to the current Plymouth County Municipal Vehicle Bid. Dodge Chrysler Jeep number 2023-2026 awarded to Central Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram of Rainham 191 new state highway
Rainham Mass. >> Motion by Commissioner Wright. >> Second. >> Second by Commissioner Hanley. By roll call. Commissioner Hanley. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Wright. Yeah. >> And Commissioner Valenzola. Yes. Next item. Vote to amend pricing for Silverado Chases 2026 model year
vehicles for Plymouth County Commissioner vehicle procurement contract with Liberty Chevrolet. >> Okay. Um at a regular meeting of the county commissioners holding at Plymouth of the 4th day of December 2025 voted to
approve the 2026 model year pricing of the following vehicles manufactured by the Chrysler Motor Company to the current Plymouth County Municipal Vehicle Bid. Uh, Chevrolet number 2023-2026 awarded to Liberty Chevrolet, Inc. 90
Bay State Road, Wakefield, Mass. >> Motion by Commissioner Wright. >> Second. >> Second by Commissioner Hanley. By roll call. Commissioner Hanley. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Wright. >> Yes. >> And Commissioner Allenoli. Yes. Okay.
>> Next item. That's okay. Move to amend pricing for 2026 model year vehicles for Plymouth County Commissioner vehicle procurement contract for Honda vehicles with Colonial Imports South, Dodge Chrysler vehicles with Colonial South Auto, Ford vehicles with Colonial Ford and Nissan vehicles with Colonial Nissan
of Medford. >> If I uh may chair, um we're still waiting on the pricing. There's so many vehicles included in this uh pricing change that they requested another meeting. So, we tabled it last time and we'll just table one more meeting. Not a problem. Thank you. No problem.
>> Motion to table. Mrs. Chairman, >> um I don't think we need a motion on that. We'll just have it on the next agenda. Um next item, mobile integrated health program update. >> J, that's going to fall to me, but I didn't know what the register schedule was. If you want to take him out of
order, if the extension director is here, I take her out of order because I'll be the next two items. >> If there's no objection, we'll take we can take Mr. Buckley out of order. >> We'll do a register's report. So, uh, thank you very much for your votes tonight. I am sure everyone at the
registry will appreciate, um, your recognition and the holiday. Um, the registry report is pretty much what it's been. Um, if you saw our newsletter put out a couple days ago, you see real
estate kind of chug chugging along at its same pace. uh slightly ahead in deeds, 14% ahead in mortgages, but real estate is really stuck no matter what
the federal government does or the state government is trying to do. Uh we're not really breaking out of the funk that it's in. Um uh the bad news is that we're in a funk. The good news is the
high prices has resulted in increases in Dean's excise revenue. I know the treasurer reported on that last time and we had another solid month based upon Dean's excise this month um signing
checks either tomorrow or early next week for the assistant treasurer and um going forward um if it goes forward as it is we'll clearly be uh significantly ahead of our estimates for the year but
as far as breaking out of the difficulties we're in. It really had to say well it's going to be changed by next spring. So >> great >> and thank you very much for your vote. >> Yeah, >> thank you. >> Thank you Mr. Buckley. Any questions? No.
>> All right. Thank you, Register Buckley. Next, mobile integrated health treasurer O'Brien. >> Quite a lot to report, Chair. And I want to begin by thanking Commissioner Wright uh for helping us with this program. as you know, she's your design on the mobile integrated health uh program. And
we were running into a log jam. We had one Zoom meeting with Commissioner Wright and we broke the log jam uh and were able to to get a lot accomplished. Um so just briefly, as you'll recall, we had a pilot program that ran last fiscal year. Uh we wanted to extend that pilot
program in a relationship with Israelis. uh we've had some contract uh issues that we had to work out in conversation with Beth Israel Deaconist. As I said, we had a meeting last week and we've been able to do that. So, what I have for you this evening are are two items
that I would ask for you to vote on. One is an extension of the agreement that we have with NASCO on uh from the period December 1, 205 through June 30th, 2026. It's in draft form right now. Frank is working with York Council Shannon Resnik
to finalize that, but I'd like a vote of the commissioners to authorize the administrator to sign that once it's been signed off on by the attorney. >> Um, any objection? >> No. >> I'll entertain a motion. >> Motion so made. >> Motion by Commissioner Wright.
>> Second. >> Second by Commissioner Hanley. Any questions or discussions? >> Hearing none. Uh, by roll call, Commissioner Hanley. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Wright. >> Yes. and commissioner balance. Yes. >> The second part of this is the
relationship of Beth Israel Deaconist. Uh they are very excited because what we're allowing them to do is increase the reach of this program, the number of patients that will be served. Uh they had some confusion about the operation of the program. Uh but again, we were
able to uh address those issues in a somewhat lengthy meeting. Uh Shannon has crafted aou uh which we've looked at today. I had a few edits as I shared with the administrator. He may have one or two as well. But what I'm hoping we can do is
uh have a vote here to authorize Commissioner Wright to sign on behalf of the commissioners the memorandum of understanding with Beth Israel Deaconist uh so that we can move forward with this. It would be my expectation that Beth Israel will then have two or three people from their organization sign uh
and that we would do some kind of a press announcement in January uh about thisou. Uh they've asked if we could do it at the front steps of Beth Israel. I said we could certainly read it. I would have to obviously make sure of the commissioner schedule and their availability, but we'd be looking for a vote to authorize Commissioner Wright to
sign once it's signed off on by our council. >> So move, Mr. Chairman. >> Motion by Commissioner Hanley. >> Second. >> Second by Commissioner. >> Second by you, Mr. Chairman. Has to be seconded by you, Mr. Chairman. >> All right, I'll second it
>> by roll call. Commissioner Hanley. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Wright. >> Yes. Commissioner Valenzola. Yes. >> Um, so we're excited. I think they're going to be able to see uh at least 25 to 35% more uh people in
their homes uh with this program. >> Great. >> Uh which is invaluable. Uh the partnership is good. Beth Israel is a leader. We're hoping this allows us to show again the efficacy of the program. Either continue this partnership or expand the partnership. and we're
looking to set up some meetings and and we'll be doing probably in January with some of the community leaders. Uh we had some early meetings uh with some folks from Plymouth uh to see if we can get their buy in as well. >> Um but again, it's been wellreceived. I know the people that appreciate it the
most are the residents that get served by. So real compliment to the commissioners and a a feather in your cap. >> Absolutely. Any other questions on that? >> I'd just like to say one thing. I just want to thank uh the treasurer and our
team that has worked so very much on this. Uh it's a great program. Uh I think it's going to go far and uh I know that they've put in timeless efforts to uh get this to be uh passed through and they've done a great job.
>> And um I echo Commissioner Wright's uh sentiments. This has been a a program um that I think certainly pivots and puts the county in in a position in the future. Um again, Trey, I don't know if you know this, Tom, off the top of your head, but
we we saw this program, the pilot program, saw at least one resident of every community in Plymouth County. Correct. At least one. >> Yes. >> Um how many folks did this program see in in its pilot year? >> In its pilot year, it's all over,400 people. >> Yeah. Which is incredible. which reduces
the recidivism rate in the hospitals >> and it keeps those beds free for for people that are more >> uh trauma or more emergency in nature and just another example of the county serving as a vehicle of good regional services and I thank Commissioner Wright
for her leadership on this as well. >> Okay, >> thank you. >> You know, it really gets the people out of the hospitals and it does make room for more people trying to get in or needing to get in. So uh I think this is going to go far and you know very much appreciate I think that you know a lot of pe a lot of other communities will
follow suit. >> Well and we talk about it often right I mean as the data show the data shows people recover better at home and >> of course >> and um again keeping those beds and that bandwidth free uh for emergency calls is always you know
>> a good you know a good thing and it's a good thing we're doing so. >> All right. >> Well just just I'll follow up. I'm glad you commission right too because she was an early supporter of this program when people were not sure uh about it and what it meant. Uh really it was at the cutting edge and she's been there from
the very beginning. So we really appreciate that. >> I had firsthand experience you know which which was much needed. >> Yeah. You know what it means for people to be treated in >> for sure. >> Sure. >> Any other questions about mobile integrated health?
So then we can move on to the American Rescue Plan Act. >> Yes, ARPA is next. Treasury O'Brien. >> Um so you'll have two votes. One invoice from CLA, but most notably a transfer of the city of Brockton. >> Um the city of Brockton has received
some additional monies at your vote for a project that they decided not to undertake and they want to use that money uh for the overrun that they add on the project tag. city hall that have sourced both needed for the process. It requires them to submit a financial
request which they did review by the two levels of accountants then review by my office which we've undergone questions back and forth but of course final sign off by you folks. They're grateful for this because they weren't sure how they were going to cover this cost. So, this
takes one of the burdens off of their shoulders and uh helps complete that project, which if you've been to city hall recently, uh was pretty successful project. >> Yeah, looks great. >> Happy to have been a >> financial part of supporting that. Anyway, >> big part. Yeah,
>> we contributed $10 million to that. >> That's all, huh? >> Yeah, a lot of money. >> Yeah, absolutely. Commissioner, right? >> Okay. Okay. Pursuant to the terms and conditions of the American Rescue Plan Act in the grant agreement between Plymouth County and the municipality
referenced below, the Plymouth County Commissioners grant dispersements of funds Elden administered through the Plymouth County Opera Program as follows. City of Brockton $850,000. >> What did you say? Three or eight? >> Eight. >> Oh, you said eight. I'm sorry. I thought
I heard >> 800. No, no. All right. No, >> please with these glasses. >> I'm just hearing thing. I I thought I heard three. So, >> I'm not seeing well with these >> and I'm not hearing well. Okay. Motion by Commissioner Wright for 850,000. >> Second by Commissioner Hanley,
notwithstanding my hearing issues. By roll call, Commissioner Hanley. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Wright. Yes. >> And Commissioner Valenzolei. Yes. >> Thank you. Okay. Pursuant to the terms and conditions of the American Rescue Plan Act, Plymouth County Commissioners grant dispersements of funds held and
administered through the Plymouth County Opera Program as follows. Clifton Lawson Allen LLP $8,743. >> Motion by Commissioner Wright, second by Commissioner Hanley. By roll call, Commissioner Hanley, >> yes. >> Commissioner Wright, >> yes.
>> And Commissioner Valenzolei, yes. Okay, >> just before we wrap it up and get focus on this, um, we still have three transfers out. We'll see if the towns uh complete those transfers at the end of the transfers. We're going to do an analysis of how much money is left and
then come back to you folks uh to a portion additional. So, those that add additional requests in remember we have 10 communities that have additional requests in able to fund half of their requests. depending on how much money is left, you may be able to fund another 10
or 20% of those requests. And the reason it's only those is because those were the ones that were in by the obligation deadline of of December 31st, 2024. >> Um, so the good news for us, and I can report now with 100 certainty,
>> uh, that we will not return a penny to the US. >> Excellent. because we have the ability to sell the program that would need for instance if we're able to do this water project to situate municipal product to Brockton and others would get would get
a little more fun. So uh it really could have gotten better. I'm grateful for your folks leadership on the program and supporting some of the tough decisions we had to make along the way. And then of course the team we had has been great. Uh and a special thanks to Frank and his office who have had to do all the processing for the county of
Plymouth. Uh we should note that the county of Plymouth uh has received some funding under this program more than they were able to under the CARES Act simply because of the way it was structured. >> Uh and Frank and his team have had to do yman's work in getting those applications in. Uh and it has not
always been easy. Uh but he does it with grace and applate for that. >> Very good. >> Very good. All right. >> And thank you, Frank. Okay. Uh, extension director. No, Molly tonight. >> Molly wasn't feeling well tonight. >> That's okay.
>> I think this is the first one she's ever missed. >> Yeah. No, that's okay. It happened. Got to hold. Got to get the animals into a warm place. Treasures report. Treasure O'Brien. >> Yes. And you know, I've done this for the last couple of months, but the news just keeps getting better. So, I can't
help myself to do it for one more month. Uh this is your county op report through October. You have the one through uh September. And again, you continue to see uh some excellent investment performance. Uh but
uh I wanted to note the one-year return of 17.46%. Uh is is pretty remarkable. and to note the earnings uh so that the earnings of $64,486.33 in one month most times that would be a
very good year. Um but you have that in one month. Look at the expense too to earn that language. We don't $1,242.39. Uh so again uh just real good news and good information about the performance
of the county open up trust. Any other questions? The last thing I report on is Mayflower Municipal Health Group. Um it's interesting and I had to apologize to the commissioner right because I got a call is he was coming over here and I had to take the call. Uh it's it's a
community outside of Plymouth County that had heard about Nathan Municipal Health Group and had inquired while ago about coming in but now is is desperate to come in and it's been frustrating for me as these groups have looked at us and
then he and about whether to come in and now they're realizing that we're an exceedingly good option. Um, so we'll set up a meeting with them and see. Uh, but right now we have seven communities that have requested to come in. We have two that are far enough along in the process that we hope they'll bring them
in. Uh, and those votes will be taking place in January and February. Uh, but what's happening out there in healthcare uh continues to to be somewhat frightening. Uh, however, anybody that's part of the Mayfall Municipal Health Group can take comfort and solace in the fact that we've planned for this and
we're in very good shape for the next four years. Great. Any questions for the treasurer? >> Thank you. Uh great returns on uh that you know the OPEC trust again. What's the line? If you're not in it, you should be.
>> That is the tagline. >> Whatever the tagline is to ask yourself why. >> Um >> goes along with the OPED. Yes. >> One of the other reasons too, just to segue off of that, Sharon, I know you made this point in addition to being able to manage the funds, I'm fairly
certain we're one of the only ones that has the ability to spend the money too on retirees. So, I guess communities may need to make that choice. That program is all set up for par and they're able to do that because they've been doing it out on the west where some people are fully funded. So,
another reason you'd be with us is we really operate from beginning to end, alpha to omega, and can help towns in any way they need it. >> For sure. >> Great. >> Very good. All right. Thank you, Treader O'Brien. Maintenance and administrators report. Mr. Basler.
>> Uh, thank you, Chair. Uh, wanted to brief the, uh, commissioners on a little bit of a challenge that we're seeing in Hangingham just court right now. Uh, regrettably, we have a uh 50-year-old steam boiler in the old portion of the
of the historic courthouse. Uh, and it's from a leak. Uh, we've looked at trying to replace just a core section of it and regrettably, it's not uh it's past repair. Uh so we've been looking uh through chapter 25A project that'll
improve the energy efficiency as a as a workout plan uh by replacing the steam boiler, upgrading the electric service uh and adding a series of heat pumps to supply primary heat and cooling. Right now in the old building, we have all
window air conditioners. And actually in uh the the courthouse session itself, the air conditions are so loud uh they have to be turned off when uh people when when they're in uh giving testimony. So it gets very
uncomfortable. This is going to solve a lot of problems. It'll get rid of all the old window air conditioners and the problems that are associated with those uh and bring it up to uh digital heat and cooling controls so that everybody will have a much more pleasant uh
comfort level. Uh the unfortunate uh point is that it's $331,000 for two uh aspects of this uh of the prop of the uh proposal of we've requested uh assistance from the trial court, but
they don't think they can help. Their their budget is stretched in and they actually have been cutting budgets themselves uh projects. So uh the good news is and after discussing with the treasurer uh we do uh feel that we have some room uh within the budget uh within
the maintenance budget and also uh in the capital reserve uh budget line item that we've been putting money into for these kind of calamities when they hit. So um we'll uh with your appribation we'll move forward with this project and
uh there's really not too many alternatives. uh you know that uh that we have. We'll get the uh boiler in uh on property so if the steam boiler does let go during the winter time, we can immediately go into replacement mode.
We'll only lose days instead of weeks and months uh of the building. And then in the springtime, we'll do the electrical upgrade and uh and then do the um actual uh heat pump installations uh in the quiet season in between the
heating and the cooling system. >> Um how much is in that line item that capital uh improvement? It was about a million, correct? >> No, no, no. Probably about 400 range. >> No, I think it's a little less than
that. If you'll hold, I'll go get you the exact number. >> More of a curiosity point just for the >> 167,000. >> Okay. >> Point being is we've generally saved for this and >> we have >> whole money, you know, from where we need to to to get this done
>> and then we would use the rest uh the the delta would be uh funded through the uh budget itself. >> Okay. >> Uh for the administrator's report, >> do you want a motion on that or >> um if you Yeah. Uh motion to move ahead with the project would be would be
great. Okay. >> Motion so moved. Motion indicated. >> Yep. Motion by Commissioner Wright. >> On the motion, Mr. Chairman. >> Uh do we have a >> question of the second? >> Second by Commissioner Hanley. Discussion. Commissioner Hanley. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh through you
to Frank. Frank, have we utilized the services of a house doctor? Who's got the design criteria that you've measured weighted the BTU options and the cooling loads? >> Uh we have not uh we do not have a house
doctor on staff uh on uh contract right now. It's uh something that I'm planning to do uh once we get our assistant um administrator on on board in January uh to reload that house doctor contract as
we did uh three or four years ago. Uh who we did use was the engineers and experts uh from energy efficiency uh conservation group. uh they are a qualified uh by state and by uh the state
utilities group that to do these exact jobs. They come in, do all the engineering, do the proposal, the procurements on the 25A, uh, which eliminates us having to go out and individually bid it because 25A has
certain, uh, requirements, uh, and allowances that we can utilize for the procurement with uh, state approved vendors. Uh, and, uh, we also, uh, fortunately get a an incentive with this. So, we'll be looking at about uh
about $30,000. It's about a 10% incentive uh that we will get uh uh for this. Um unfortunately, because Hangingham is in a uh they they have a town municipal power supply, there's no
on billing uh on uh monthly billing financing. So, that's why we have to come up with the money up ahead. A lot of these projects are paid for by the actual savings we enjoy each month and offsets the increases of the of the
financing. Zero, it's 0% financing, but of the financing over time. Uh and uh it's a net net zero to the county uh with a long-term savings uh for us. >> So with respect to the national grid, the current steam boiler is powered by
gas. Is that correct? It is and it would be replaced by a gas steam boiler but that would be a secondary uh heat source. The primary heat source of the heat pumps uh that would be installed
working on electricals and that's where the incentives come in. Respectfully, I would ask that we examine this a little bit further because Frank, with all of the incentives that are out there, it's one thing to build them.
It's another thing to sustain them. And I would just ask that we contact National Grid to see if there are other options. Uh right now, this is something that you don't need a vote on tonight, but I'd like to see National Grid's response to uh the consultants
recommendation to see if there's a alternative way to address this because like I said, it's one thing to use the incentives to purchase and install. It's another thing when those bills uh start
coming due. And although we do have human power, we still find in the business that I'm in that there may be a preference to stay with gas. And I would just ask that we exhaust that uh opportunity by uh asking you as part of
your due diligence with the new uh assistant administrator to bring national before you make a final decision on the program. We we act through the chair uh we actually have uh a pre-qualified and pre-approved
uh uh application that's all part of the standard procedure that we utilize. So we have been in discussions with them uh in getting the plan approved and engineered through to make sure that everything uh uh you know works uh to
the way we've actually um uh tweaked the plan based on their uh feedback already. So, this is a pre-approved um accepted incentive with a contract uh
all set, ready to be signed. Uh and um the uh uh the plan uh with Anacon is all approved and ready to be signed. Uh the reason why I wouldn't want to delay is that if the steam boiler goes down um we
are we there's a lead time as you know uh there's a lead time for boilers. We'd have to get a temporary boiler in there for the lead time of the uh of the actual delivery. And um with getting that
uh doing the project approval as quickly as we can, we can minimize the impact and and the risk that's out there that we would uh need to get that interim heating source. >> Yeah, I understand what I understand
what you said, Frank, in with respect to purchasing a gas fired steam boiler. I would absolutely not delay that one bit. My point is uh to work with the utility. We have contacts at the utility and we
can see if they're running a program uh in gas, okay, heat pumps aren't cheap to operate and depending on how things are currently engineered with venting and how um heat moves and cooling moves
across the building before you make the final decision, which I believe you have time on. And I don't discount the fact that your due diligence has yielded something that will potentially be uh something that could benefit the county, but I would just like to rule out
whether or not National Grid has a program of a better efficient system based on your current uh infrastructure. So that's my only point. I do this for a living. So I would ask that you give me
the forbearance to if the administration doesn't have the time to do it that I'll make some phone calls on behalf of the county with the approbation of the commissioners. >> I I think we can u >> yeah I think we can give the authority
and still vote and just add in the uh additional uh due diligence points that Commissioner Hanley has mentioned. But to the administrator's point, I think it would behoove us to give him the authority to move without haste in the
event that that boiler goes. So, um, >> agreed. Agreed. >> I think we can incorporate Commissioner Hanley's points, uh, relative to, uh, searching for or examining or or uh, gathering any potential credits that
could be out there. So, we can do both. So, >> I'll add that as an amendment, Mr. Chairman. Uh that is added as an amendment to commission to Commissioner Wright's motion. Do you make that amendment? >> She does. And Commissioner Hanley with the
>> seconded uh amended. Seconded uh by roll call. Commissioner Hanley. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Wright. Yes. And Commissioner Valenzola. Yes. >> Okay. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, Frank, for your hard work. >> Thank you, Commissioner, for the good good suggestion. Um I'll follow up uh
tomorrow. uh under the administrator's report, I I have uh with the treasurer and myself have been communicating with Norfox County and we're looking at the next Mass County Commissioners Association meeting which Plymouth County is hosting. Uh, and we were
looking at um January 30th as a uh date um that uh they work that works for the um for the count no uh Norfolk and we wanted to find out if that worked uh it's a Friday um if that worked for uh
for the three of you. >> As of now it does for me. Yeah, >> it would be a lunchtime uh uh uh area, you know, 11 to 12 uh meeting uh with lunch. >> Okay. >> Works for me, Mr. Chairman.
>> Oh, and >> he said it works for its >> Oh, I thought he said he had a question. I'm not hearing well tonight. >> Yeah, I guess so. >> Thought he did you hear that too, Jeff? Okay, thank you. Yeah, I thought >> it worked for me. >> I thought he said it. All right, >> great. And then finally, >> we can spend all that debate in that after.
>> I just wanted to touch base on the next schedule meeting is our next commissioner's meeting is scheduled for December 18th. Uh there had been uh some talk about moving the meeting from the 5:30 uh traditional start to an 11:00
earlier start. I know um some I know Commissioner Wright is traveling uh out of state at that time, but that would allow uh us to have our holiday uh annual holiday lunch uh following the meeting uh for your participation if if
you're so inclined. >> I think that makes sense. You'd be able to zoom in. >> I can zoom in. >> Great. I'll be there. >> Okay. Great. All right. All set. >> And that is all set, chair. Thank you. >> Very good. Okay. I will entertain a
motion to adjurnn. >> Motion so moved. >> Commissioner, >> second by Commissioner Hanley. By roll call. Commissioner Hanley. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Wright. >> Yes. >> And Commissioner Alenoli. Yes.