Town County Hackon regular monthly meeting Tuesday, November 18th, 2025. >> Okay, we're going like to call this meeting to order of the township regular meeting of the township council on uh Tuesday, November
18th, 2025. Uh, adequate notice of the meeting was given to the Star Ledger and the Express Times as well as the township's website satisfying the requirements of the open public meeting act. Uh, if we could all stand for a silent prayer and a flag
salute. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Wanda, do you want to take a role?
>> Sure. >> Hello. >> Lizetti >> here. >> Melvin >> here. Still >> here. >> Slag is absent. Benro me. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I am here. >> Okay.
>> All right. Uh, next item we have on the agenda is approval of the regular and executive session minutes from October 21st. I'll entertain any motions. >> Both or one? >> Both. >> I got a motion to move both from Stella.
>> Okay. >> Is there a second? >> Second. Second from Wetti. >> Okay. Babinski, >> yes. >> Lzetti, >> Nelson, >> yes. >> Melvin, >> yes. >> And Still, >> yes.
>> Um, has everyone had a chance to review the bill list? If so, I'll take a motion to entertain the motion to pay the bills. Payment of bills presented in proper form signed by the director of each department and approved by the majority of the members and listed on the bill list. So move still.
>> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Second. Babinsky. Wander roll. >> Babinsky. >> Yes. >> Lose. >> Yes. >> Stella. >> Yes. >> Melvin. >> Yes. Public comments pertaining to agenda items. Not seeing any members of the
public here. We'll move next on to our attorney's report. uh circulated a little memo two guys with the relative two number of items. Um unless you guys have any questions, that was really it. We did get our did get our long uh outstanding bill paid on
the sewer from the uh that dispute with the the IHOP. >> Oh, okay. >> Um the cubes um looks like they're going to be going ahead pretty soon. They asked us to be the lead agency because they don't want to deal with the Patcon. So I said I didn't think that would be a
problem. Um, I did just give Wanda the deed for the deed restriction for Lark and a Monty View for our affordable units. I did send that to Jim Kyle. Uh, I know, um, Wayne had talked to me about Shackleton. John, I know you, we've talked about this before. Um, as
indicated my report, Wayne's going to have to do an inspection, make sure there these roads are either up to snuff or not or what has to be done. And then if you guys want to accept them, we would need a road dedication deed from whatever homeowners association or whoever owns them.
Um, Edge, I did do a letter to everybody on the planet about the water there. I don't know from Wayne. I haven't heard anything further and I have not gotten response yet from that. >> And they put a sign up. >> What sign? >> Yeah, they put a sign up. >> That's great. >> And some cones.
>> That's going to help. >> Says water in road. >> Seriously. >> Did you see that? >> No. >> Yeah. cop ran >> there's a big sign a red sign that just says water in roadway ahead >> that must be okay then
>> if someone gets in an accident there >> rain gets back from >> who's liable >> they warned the water >> right crash >> they come after both of us >> cuz people go into the middle almost to the left hand lane and it's actually a blind curb there a little bit >> someone come up their side it's not night time there's no lights I mean it's going to get ugly
>> well they added cones >> reflect Yeah, I got to move over more. >> I will sign. >> I'll follow up with Wayne when he when he gets back from the league on see what we're doing with that. >> Um, and lastly, I did update the
personnel policies from Caser's manuals. I signed off on the checklist. Wanda said there may be a few, I don't know, inconsistencies or what have you, but >> just as a further Noel was reviewing the personnel policy and procedures, and that seems right. It was the employee handbook that was
>> okay. I sent them to you both in Word because last time around I spent >> just Yeah, we >> Yeah, we spent hours putting those in a word format and then so you Scott, everybody has them, >> but I already signed off from the checklist for the GIF because that keep locks you into that lower deductible. So that's done.
>> Also Scott there is some training make sure >> we got to do that period. I think most of you can take right online. >> Yeah, most of it's all >> but even our volunteers now >> and the chief of the fire department. >> Yep. Yeah, there's I think there's only a couple mandatory and that's more for the police department. that they have to go in person for the supervisor ones.
>> I think there's a sexual harassment one like one like almost everybody has to take. >> I already said we did it, but I figured you could take care of that. >> That was it. I think that was the ME risk. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> All right. Thank you. >> Uh actually, while we're on it, I'll if
you want, I'll bring it up, Kevin. Um I I asked you remember I sent you an email after last meeting about the tree on liberty. >> Yeah. You just concurred like that's not ours, right? >> Exactly. our responsibility. >> No. Okay. All right. >> I know the mayor reached out uh to see if power would handle that. I don't know
if we did we get any response. >> No, there I think I somebody told me if it's it's only they they only go like six feet off the wire. That's it. >> Oh, this is this is within the wires. This this thing's >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. >> Well, then they should take it. Well, I don't know if they measure from the
trunk or from the limb, but >> Oh, it's Well, the limbs are definitely overhanging wires. It would take out a bunch >> in the main road like in the in the medium. >> And why were >> Well, that's another reason why we wouldn't touch it then if it's that close to the wires. I certainly not want
you guys Jeff and the guys doing that or even a tree company. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Uh while we're on it, do you want to since you already touched on the Silver Hill, do you want to just stay on that the road >> for what Wayne? Yeah. For what Wayne was looking for? >> I don't know if he's gone out there yet,
but >> he did. >> He did. Yeah, I haven't seen anything from him yet. >> So, he put it in his report tonight that he's uh what he wants to do is >> he's asking uh for I guess mayor and council to approve to do an escrow account
so that he can do the surveys and everything else that needs to be done. But then the association from Silver Hill would pay the he's recommending $5,000. >> Okay. >> In escrow. >> Um but he >> That's fine. >> Is that okay? because I think he he told
me that I think you said the mayor and council had to approve that we couldn't just take the escrow or something to that effect. I'm not >> I just said ultimately we have to approve the road dedication. I didn't really care about an escrow. I mean all I said was it has to be
>> you you guys don't necessarily have to bring it 100% up to municipal standards, but you certainly want to get to a reasonable standard, right? And that's all I want to make sure that you guys are happy that you're not buying a pig in the pope when you take it. Next thing you know, you're doing $100,000 roing, right? >> So, yeah, you guys can take the escrow,
set it up. >> Okay. >> And then, yeah, then and then ultimately when Wayne gets a description, we can I mean, they should really have an attorney draft that deed, but if if they don't, I mean, I can do it and they can act prosay. >> I think from what >> do they have?
>> No. from what Wayne was advising that maybe we would take the escrow and between him and you all the paperwork would be done. >> It's not going to cost you guys anything for me. That's just part of my retainer. >> Okay. >> So, I mean if they if the association doesn't have anybody, I'll do it. I'm send it to them and say, "Hey, if you want to review it, we're going to
attorney fine. If not, sign it. Give it back." >> Yep. Okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Yep. >> I think that's the best way to avenue to go. >> All right. And that So, we're just doing Silver Hill. We're not going to bother with >> shackles. No, it's just Silver Hill. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> Yep. And then there's uh there was an inspection done. >> Yeah.
>> Wayne and the contractor made um recommendations for road repairs. >> Okay. >> That um the association >> has a set amount in their their kitty, right? >> And whatever is left over the after the
$5,000 escrow that would be utilized on the recommendations by Wayne and Jeff. There was like a pipe, one pipe and then some road repairs. >> It'll be a lot better for them to do it because we don't have to pay prevailing wages. So, yeah, let them do that. Yep. >> And then Wayne can do a final inspection, >> right? And that's okay. We could just
let that happen. Okay. >> All right. >> Anything that happens before we take it, it's fine. Just we'll just make sure we like it before we actually take the date. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Is that road down in uh Carpentersville off River Road, still a private road, too? >> Manor. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. The only problem with that is is there's
no drainage where at least Silver Hill has some drainage >> where Manor Road has none. >> Yeah. Well, it's all flat, right? >> Right. So, if that was if that was even thought of, we'd have to do a complete drainage system there, which would be >> the price would be astronomical compared
to what this is going to be. >> Yeah. And and the other reason we're doing it, Steve, is I think we had a couple people trying to sell properties in that Silver Hill area and because every time a pedal searcher sees that you're on a private road, like all these bells and whistles go on, we're already
plowing it and maintaining it anyway >> and that one seems to be the lowest hanging fruit. So, >> you know, we we'll start there and then if you guys want to move on a little bit to other ones, we can. You know, it is nice for residents to be able to say they're on a public street. Mhm. >> He also said Wayne also said that they
would need uh to get storm easements through specific lots as well in order for invis because there's a couple properties that the drainage runs in. So we would just have to get those easements from them to allow us to go onto the property and assume it's going
to get those descriptions of those. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> And uh yeah, we can do all that. Okay. >> That's not a big deal. I said that's the legal work on that. That's just engineering legal. That legal's in my my budget. >> Okay, that's all I had on it from what we
wanted to talk about. >> Any other questions for Kevin? >> Yeah, another good question. I think we talked about this the last meeting. How about like the guy on um Pinterest point that land use board allowed him to keep all his rubbish in his yard till June.
Do we need to as a council do anything about that now? Cuz the guy's never cleaned the place up. >> The zoning reinforcement. >> I don't even Fousardi. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I'm talking about >> Yeah. I I did reach out to uh zoning for it >> to say that, you know, he's not in
compliance from whatever the land use board had an agreement with. >> Yeah. >> So that now he's aware of it. So he's going to start the inspections again. >> Mhm. >> Our zoning. >> Yeah. That's easy to do. >> Yeah. Yeah. Right. >> Well, and you know, as you know before, we have occasionally cleaned up things and put leans on. So that's your
ultimate round. in 10 dumpsters, 20 dumpsters and stuff. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> And that guy on on on Mountain Road is going to >> put in a house, a building permit. The
guy that's living in the trailer, >> correct? >> What does he do for sewage and water? >> Right now, it's just a camper. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, >> I don't see the camper go anywhere and empty anything. So yeah, just you know, >> so I I I I followed up with uh Andrew on that
>> just to to say we need an update, >> you know, look every 30 days. I don't want to >> I don't want to just let this guy say he's doing his plans and then we have nothing coming. >> Nothing coming. >> So I asked him every 30 days to follow up so that we had some documentation in case we had to take action.
>> Yeah. Kevin, so you know this guy put contain he bought a lot, small lot, cleared the woods out the middle, put containers there, and he's got laying in the yard. >> Oh, really? >> You know, equipment, all kinds of crap laying around there. Filled in the
drainage dish in front of this place. >> Well, if we have to, we can certainly take action and get an injunction and and all that type of stuff. We've done it before, so just let me know when we need to pull the trigger. Hopefully it cleans it up, but
>> All right. Thank you, Kevin. Um, Scott, administrator's report. >> Sure. Uh, so for the courts, uh, Pohakcon had 190 new cases, 149 disposed, $5,48847 to the municipal deposit. Greenwich, 190
new cases, 160 disposed, $5,950.91 to the deposit. So that brings a total uh of $77,980.13 for the year. Um they'll still at this point they're still going to owe a um
some money at the end of the year even on that pace. Um just by the history that we've had so far. Um they're not going to they're they're still going to probably owe about anywhere from 20 to $40,000 just off of my estimate on the numbers we have so far. Okay. Uh, low Pacon, 200
new cases, 163 disposed, $7,53167 to the municipal deposit. Uh, the fire department had 24 calls for service. >> Scott, real quick on Lopat. >> Yes, >> those numbers seem really high. >> They are >> compared to what when we entertain
taking on that court. >> What's going on there? >> The numbers are skyrocketed from what the numbers I had when we were negotiating. Okay. >> I I >> I don't I'm assuming they just started >> new officers or something. >> Yeah. New Yeah,
>> they actually hired uh truck traffic. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. >> Officer do uh Don Obley, he left the school. He's just truck truck traffic now for the warehouses. >> He's just like Greenwich just did with they hired Sean Wlin back again
>> as a parttime >> and all they do is truck traffic. That's their sole job. They don't do anything else. Answer calls. No other traffic other than truck traffic around town. >> He he and I the report the court reports they have individual officers names and like what they do.
>> He stops a lot of cars. A lot of he he >> he always did. >> Yeah. So I mean that that's all uh I believe Councilman Melon I spoke with you a little bit about that yesterday with the this year coming up. Um AOC is saying we're probably going to have to
have another full-time employee. >> Well, now it makes sense, >> right? due to the numbers >> context. >> Yeah. So, we're gonna have to revisit the low PAC contract with them to see if they're amocical to um you know open it
up and provide a little more funding for what their numbers are now. >> And that's 100% to us, right? All the um municipal funds. >> Yes. >> Up to the certain amount. >> There's a cap
>> of what we negotiated what they pay. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah, >> we may need to look at that amount as well. Open that back up because if their volume is exceeding >> Yeah. >> you know, significantly, that needs to be looked at. >> Yeah. >> Well, that's why I said to you
yesterday, like the increase, >> that would even it out from what I'm seeing on the numbers. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> you're at the fire. >> Yep. They had 24 calls for the month, nine EMS and 15 fire related. Um, I know
they were I've already spoken with the fire chief. Um, we are doing transfers in December when I talked to Ann the other day for their skid unit. Um, so that will be resolved. Um, their capital money. Uh, they've requested I I asked
them already for the bills cuz capital is not done like a donation. >> So, we don't just give them the $20,000. They have to supply the bills and then we pay. Mhm. >> We would pay the invoices. So, I've asked for those. I have not received those. Um, but in their report, they had
that their request was over $20,000, but they're capped under the agreement that we have with them at 20. So, the rest still have to be uh throughout from their budget that they have. >> Um, has there been any movement on that item we were talking about at the
hatchery with regard to >> Yes. So, I spoke with the fire chief. Um we we don't believe that there's enough water that would come through to the fire I mean to the fish hatchery that we
would be able to utilize that. So I asked the fire chief what right now what right now what is their policy? What is their operating procedure for that? and they have a unit that and multiple units from other agencies when they need that
for the pumpers to come in and continue to fill their, you know, little pool that they utilize. Um, and that's the procedure. So, in order to utilize the if they would want to, they would test it. But then he's concerned that if
that's coming from the river and what's in there, if stuff sucks up into that without the filters catching it, that it could ruin the machinery pumping it through. >> Mhm. >> So, he doesn't recommend that we even
try that. That's the recommendation. >> All right. I need to circle back with him because that wasn't what I heard from him before. >> Yeah. Um, and what I had heard that that water coming in and I don't know how much of it would have got filtered anyway through the
>> through the hatchery, but the volume sounded like it would keep up that it was constantly moving, >> right? >> Um, >> the other thing that he said was is so say for instance, we shut that road off, right? And then something happens because we're pumping out of there.
right now they have it to where they have trucks coming in and going out, going in, going out. That's their plan. Where he's afraid that if they have to make turnarounds and stuff because they're doing it differently on River Road that it would interfere with their
uh fire suppression. >> Yeah, it doesn't doesn't sit with me because those trucks are going to have to go out to get refilled anyway. Mhm. >> So if you had a local source, even if you did use that source for every third truck, >> it makes it would make sense. It's just
logical. So >> I I'll circle back with him. >> Okay. >> Uh the police department had 1143 incidents, 20 motor vehicle accidents, five arrests, 220 traffic stops, and 174 summones were
issued uh for the month. Um, I I I apologize, Jeff. Do you have anything major? Because I I know you gave me the report and I forgot to fill it in on my report. >> Nothing crazy. >> Okay. >> Truck repair.
>> Truck. Right. We had a couple trucks that went down that significant like the clutch on one and then there was some sensors that we saved the big toe bill on cuz we were able to limp it up there. Um, but that that was a significant bill
of probably like almost $8,000 on the truck alone. >> So, >> for the to get it to get the clutch and then the sensors that were bad. >> Yep. >> Um, but that money was within the budget, so we're not over budget on that. It was within the repairs. Uh,
DPW. Um, all right. So, I did circulate the whole report though, but that's my that's my mistake. uh tax assessor advised that the maps were finalized between her and Wayne and
have been submitted to the state for rebal. Uh >> how long does that process take? Do we know? >> No, she did not say. >> Okay. >> It usually takes a little bit of time down there at the state once they get there and then they usually want revisions and then there's a second
look. So >> probably sometime next year you'll get approval. uh for tax and sewer. Uh the biggest thing was is the the IHOP Americans Best Value was paid up in full. So we're square on that even though they still have their legal battle between each
other. Uh for her finance uh we uh Ann has done the uh started the closeouts for the year 25 leaving us only with what will be the last couple months to close out uh for audit purposes and uh the budgets for department heads and
professionals are due by December 31st uh for the 2026 budget. Um zoning had 11 new applications. uh five were denied and the rest were approved with some conditions. He had 15
inspections for the month. A total of uh 1,025 was collected for $2,325 for the year. And a total of only eight this month for zoning complaints were brought to the township uh for him to handle.
>> So that funding is basically applications, right? >> Yes. >> It wouldn't be anything. >> Yes. Um >> what about and I I looked for it in the report Scott. >> Can we get more um just granularity on the denials especially there was it sound like there was a handful more
>> um >> I mean you can do this after the meetings and stuff but just in the report >> you know just some color I didn't see I didn't see it in that print out he had >> it it doesn't it just says denial approved. Um >> but I know I do know like this one two
of them were for two of them were from above ground pools. Mhm. >> So they were denied I'm assuming because >> if they have electrical and stuff like that, they have to go to DCA. >> So I think a lot of the times he denies the denials are because the people have
to go to DCA and not just us. >> But I don't that I'll get bet I will I'll write that down. >> Okay. >> I think that um for the most part they people don't meet the setback requirements or they have too much impervious coverage and he refers them to the land use board if they choose to
do that. But a lot of times they don't. >> I mean, if that's a persistent problem in a given area, we might want to look at some zoning amendments, you know, so people have a little more flexibility. >> Uh, we could talk to Jim Kyle. I don't know if this is like a you know if it's alpha annex or whatever but the
impervious coverage stuff is really making people's lives miserable and they can't use their backyard whatever you should >> from some of them it seems like they're putting a lot of stuff on their >> small just shy poach yeah all over all over basically
>> if you have a persistent problem like that that tends to need to indicate you might be a little out out of line >> it seems to be outdated it's antiquated >> but it's weird because I think you guys just did a master plan exam, but I I'll make a note to tell Jim, in fact, um
>> Scott, if you could get those that list of denials, whatever, I I'll share them with Jim and I and say, "Hey, Jim, >> this is out of whack. Maybe we should look for some tweaks next year." I I hate to see people have to go to a board and be held up, especially if they're trying to get them before winter or something, you know? >> Right. >> I think you're safe on the pool, though.
>> Yeah. Well, whatever. >> You know, I don't you >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It's a good It's a good point. a lot of denial driveways. Also, if a person wants to expand their driveway, which to me is helpful because they get their car off the street, but they have the And it's not like that construction will put them over the limit. They're
already over the limit just with the house footprint. >> We should look at that. >> Yeah. >> Um >> Okay, I'll make that. >> In reference to zoning, I know two meetings ago we spoke about uh the potential for some time remotely. Um,
and Andrew has gotten back to me on that. Um, he said that he is he could do Thursdays in person. Um, but he could, if the town was okay with it, he could add remote time for Mondays, Tuesdays,
Wednesdays, and Fridays to be able to answer emails uh, and make phone calls um, while not here in Pohakcon. Um he was willing to do that. Um he he said he would do that for 7500 extra for the
year as a salary. Um he currently gets 19,000 a little under 20 um for his total for his one day a week a week. Um so he he would he was requesting 7500. >> What days are they again?
>> Uh Monday, Wednesday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Hold on, let me double check that. He emailed it to me. He said, "Uh, increase would allow me to be fully available to staff, other departments, uh, and residents Monday
through Wednesday and on Fridays via email and phone for administrative work, permit reviews, uh, and ongoing communication. By handling these tasks remotely during the week, I can ensure that the time I spend in the office on Thursdays is dedicated entirely to
in-person meetings, inspections, and higher priority matters that require on-site attention. >> So, it be Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday. Can you give the times or just >> He just said as like whatever he needed to do, he would do them on those days so that he could keep up. >> If it's one hour, it's one hour. If it's
>> right, if it's 5 hours a day, it's five hours. It's cuz he's probably double dipping wherever he's at. >> You know, you got to nail down some hours or something. Maybe that would make >> So, I guess
>> somebody isn't frustrated if they call 4:30 in the afternoon or 8 in the morning or something like that, you know. >> Well, he was he would still be here Thursdays. >> Yeah. No, I mean there's other days, >> right? So if he's mean mean is he'll be answer emails any time Monday, Tuesday,
Wednesday and Friday like so I talked to him. >> He said fully available to staff. He he he said that he would be able to be available for emails and stuff. >> What's his normal time now? >> Do you know what he >> what Thursday? >> On Thursdays. >> Yeah. He's here 8:00 a.m. to what? 4:30.
>> Okay. So he would probably be then if I'm reading that correctly almost like he'd be available during that time or just emails or phone calls. What other township does is he covering? >> Emails are one thing, but phone calls are different. >> Washington Township now. >> Got Belvadier. >> Yeah, Belvadier.
>> Got a handful. So, >> yeah. His only other He told me the only other day that he physically didn't have to be at a building was Friday. That was the only other day like he didn't have anything that he had to be at. I guess it's what we talked about before
is that that Thursday we didn't want him to be bogged down with the phone calls and the emails um so we can go out and handle all the zoning issues on site visits and things like that. So if he is, you know, getting all that done Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, if we just
want to we just can't have it on Thursday, all of a sudden he's, >> you know, pretty much in the office all day doing that stuff. I mean, >> right, >> it's quality >> of, you know, people cuz I mean, if you get him on a Friday, you'll get him back the next on Thursday, >> right? Like, so if somebody emails him Friday, >> you get him on Thursday
>> and then Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, they're not hearing from him until Thursday. >> Cuz right now when you send him an email, an automatic message comes up that says, "I'm not back in the office until Thursday at this time. I'll get back to you then."
>> And I think we want him like this is like a need, right? Is this something we talked about? I'm just trying to refresh my memory. >> Yeah. >> The volume thing. >> The volume. >> Mhm. >> You're saying now for an extra $7,500, he'll answer an email on 8:00 on a
Monday morning. >> Correct. >> Or or even >> where he'll he'll keep in consistent contact with people instead of >> people have to wait 4 days. >> Exactly. >> Or 5 days to even get an answer if they're, you know, that's what that's what's happening now.
>> Mhm. This just alleviates that. Uh except, you know, he's just physically not here in the building. He'd be doing it remotely. >> Is there enough call for that? Does he get that much? Does that much stuff happen during the other days >> with the complaints that we get? I mean,
this month was a light month. >> Yeah. >> For eight, >> but still, I mean, last month he had 28 >> Mhm. >> complaints for, you know, people just not liking their neighbor, >> right? But they got to be followed up on. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. and then tugging in uh
budget-wise. >> Yeah, I I wouldn't recommend that this happens in if it does till the beginning of 26. So then we can put it in the budget for the following year. And we're already operating this way. It's only another month and a half >> in the winter time with less,
>> right? So I wouldn't say that we even, you know, look at it until or finalize anything until the beginning of next year. >> Okay. I think we'd also need to make sure we monitor that so that things are getting returned. >> Well, so I do know whenever he sends an
email, it comes to me. So he all his emails go directly to me as well. That's the way we have it set up. So I see when he answers people. >> Yeah. Mhm. I don't like it because it inundates my email. But
but at least it's some you know he's proving you know what what he's doing >> and we can do it maybe it's for a year to see what it's >> well we we started that without this because I said to him I want to know >> so if somebody calls and complains about
if we decide to have him for next year to do this extra time >> just have it in the contract is for a year not a permanent thing in Seattle is for a year and see if it's something that you know what is helping with the backlog and stuff like that. >> But are we able to do that if he's civil
service? If we give him a raise and then >> give it back. >> Give it back. >> I don't think so. Right. Service one. He's unqualified. >> Yeah. He's a >> It's a classified position. >> Tested and I combined the positions for zoning and code enforcement. >> Yeah. So, he's permanent.
>> A stipen. >> Has a stipen. I don't think stipens count like I still think it counts towards your pensionable wages. I >> I think that's a fair concern is that >> Mhm. >> if we don't see that volume continue,
we've just given him a $7,500 raise >> for one day. >> Yeah. >> Something to think about. >> We'll cross that when we come to it. >> Uh All right. So, the engineers report, uh, it's on the it's on the agenda to
authorize Mayor Slack for the, uh, guide rail grant. We got a second one, um, where originally we thought we were going to have to move money from our current one to do Still Valley Road, but we just got another 88,000, which should now cover Still Valley Road for the
curve. Um, so we then the others can still be um, we don't have to take away from where we wanted to put >> on that. Um uh there's a res oh we need the resolution uh completed tonight uh for the local
freight grant so that we um don't miss the deadline with DOT and then a motion to uh to authorize a request to Highlands for an extension of the grant application. >> Which one? Scott, do you know >> what's that? >> The last one is MS4.
>> The MS4 MS >> the Highlands one. That's MS4. Yeah, >> we have a lot of Highlands grant stuff. >> So that's what I'm asking. >> So we requested an extension. >> What did you say, Wanda? I'm sorry.
>> You said that Wayne asked for a motion to ask for an extension for a Highlands grant. >> Yes. >> How do we do that? Just a motion and then he requests it or what? >> Yeah, he he just needs the authorization to ask them for an extension on the grant. That's the way I'm reading He said he says motion a motion
>> with a motion to authorize engineer >> to seek extension of the MS program >> just put up just one extra motion. Um that was it for that. Um, so the dog park fence is already is being put up cuz we got a complaint today that
there was more stuff that needed to be worked on now that we're making it look nicer. Um, yeah, we had a resident call to say that they needed they wanted they had a list of things that they thought should have been done. Um, so that Jeff is going to go down and look at stuff. Um,
>> no good deed goes unpunished. >> Yeah. Uh me and Wanda today met with Steve Bar for health insurance. Um as it's you know that's a huge topic right now with increases. Um but uh actually we're okay because the
projected um for 2026 is $576,24 for the township's uh health insurance. And for 2025 we had $615,000 budgeted already. So we will be f we won't we're going to still do an increase um because right now
we're at like a plus 40. So I would rather like it to be like a plus 60 to 70 so that next year on the increase we don't have that big burden which the 20 to 30 now won't hurt the budget like 100
would if we didn't prep. Um, so but for if we had to budgetarily, we wouldn't have to raise our health. Yeah, we we are safe with where we're at right now. Um, but we just have some plans to keep prepping that and putting some of the excess money that's left
over um into the fund again so that we have more extra too just in case we have a bad year just for uh future prep. Um so I I was contacted by the school uh
in reference to our pilot programs. Um there was a huge misconception on their part um that they thought that we were getting millions of dollars from the pilots and that's not true. I met with them. I explained the pilots. I
explained the areas in need of redevelopment to them. why we why we did the pilots on the certain ones that we did and I also explained the finances that are projected to come in and when I told them that they went oh okay there is not a lot of money coming in so they
were under the impression that we were going to get you know like over a million dollars and then they wouldn't get money and then they were they wanted to request money from us >> over 20 years yeah >> well yes and that's what I explained to them it's you know 20 to 30 years we're
at 30 years for Larkin >> yeah Um they did say that Larkin on the um on the study I believe it said about 23 to 24 kids would come from that uh project. >> They're already at 31
>> from that project alone. Um their numbers though they were at one point over 400 like 405. They're about a hundred less than that now. So they're projecting that every 100 homes added would be about 25
kids. So if all the developments that we spoke about with them go through it would maybe bring their uh students up to 450 which at that point they might have to put an addition on but right now
they don't foresee that because they have that buffer from where they were almost 10 years ago I think it was the numbers have dropped so so they so they in the future they probably are going to have to do something but it's not like something that has to happen right now.
Um, and so they and they spoke about how they were trying to prep for that, but I told them like they asked if I was get we were giving them money and I told them no. Um, so and they understood. Um,
and uh, that's all I got. >> All right. Thank you, Scott. We'll move on to uh, council reports. Steve, anything from you? >> I don't have anything. >> All right. Nelson. >> No, I don't have anything on some of those new assignments that I I that I
will be doing. Uh I'm in the process of getting acclimated and so forth. So I don't really have anything exciting to right now. >> Well, we look forward to that new and exciting report next month. >> John, >> good Scott did everything.
>> Yeah. Um the only thing I will add um to my report is just with regard to the land use board. Um the uh the one cannabis application um had a part one. This is for the property the Slack
electric um that was a public hearing part one. Uh part two is coming up uh towards the end of the month. And then the only thing else and it was in the engineers report as well. We're still, and I know there's a lot of uh interest in, we still haven't uh had an updated
application ready to go to land use for the Shmer School. So, um that's still on hold. All right. Um moving on to resolutions. I see we've got
seven. I see. Does anyone want to make a motion to take these all together or if we want to separate any out? >> I'll move them all. Still, >> thank you, John. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> Thank you, Nelson.
>> Okay, >> yes. >> Yes. >> Milk. >> Yes. >> Okay. Uh, we have no ordinances for sir. >> Wait, I think I think we do. What happened to our chapter 55 with the egg board? Oh, that one was adopted last
year. >> Yes. >> Oh, so it was just a correct. You just had a question on that one line. Okay. >> Yeah, because I was appointing that. >> Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. >> Not appointments later on. Um, so we have no ordinances for first or second reading. So, we'll move forward to
motions. So, we've got 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 plus the one we just added. Uh there will still only be a because we're tableabling the the retail canvas application for ash because they no longer have a location >> interiors >> and and we're adding the motion to
authorize the engineer to seek an extension from Highlands for the MS4 permit. So you still have the same number of motion >> change number eight. Awesome. So >> uh do I have a motion to take these either al together or does anyone want to take any of them separately? >> I'll move to take them together. >> Thank you Steve. Second.
>> I'll second. Thank you, Nelson. Wanda. >> Okay. Binski, >> yes. >> Rosetti, >> yes. >> Still, >> yes. >> And Milton, >> yes. Want to just let those people know that we tabled that because we need to have a location. If they want the application back in the check, that's fine.
>> If they want us to hang on to it, we can do that, too. >> Yeah. I hope Carrie didn't deposit it yet. >> Okay. >> Maybe I should pull it back and just give it back. >> Yeah. All right. We have a uh a mayor's appointment that needs the consent of council. Um, Dr. Bruce Fry for farmland
preservation advisory committee. Um, I'll move that forward. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Steve. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Alvin? >> Yep. >> Okay. And lastly, I have for our
scheduled agenda, >> excuse me, second. >> Yep. >> Acting mayor. Um, so when is you said there's only one meeting a year for that? No, there's only going to be like two, maybe three, but the first one is going to be at our December 16th meeting a half an hour before. >> Okay. Okay.
>> The uh >> So, so it'll start at 6:30. >> We had to have that board, Steve, for >> I know I'm on it. >> But we we got rid of the goofy open space committee because that wasn't at all. >> N still and I were on back.
>> Say it was goofy. >> Say it was goofy. I'm right there with you, brother. Um, mayor's announcement, the uh, rabies clinic will be held at the municipal building on Saturday, January 3rd, 2026 from 10:00 a.m. to
noon. Um, we do, I'm told, need an executive session. So, um, we'll have a motion to move into executive session to take a motion. >> Yeah. >> Is there a motion? So, move
>> and John seconds. All in favor? I >> I All right. >> So, um >> go home. Come home. Go get a beer. >> Okay. Go. >> All right. Uh our executive session uh
we talked about uh a vacant uh position that's coming up in an offer letter. Um we're going to we had a process for interviewing for our assistant clerk and our land use board. Um and we are um
instructing the clerk to go ahead and send out an offer letter with a salary of 36,000 for the assistant clerk portion and 15,000 for the land use board portion with hours 9:00 a.m. to 4:30 Monday through Friday with an offer
start date of December 2nd. >> You need to make a motion to come out. >> Yeah, we do. So let's >> I'll make a motion. >> I said it. Did you? >> I did. >> Okay. >> But there wasn't a second. >> I'll second. >> There you go. >> Okay. So, I'm going to say KM and John. And all in favor?
>> I make the motion that Kevin just >> Yeah. >> And John, you're making that motion. Who's seconding? >> Melvin. >> Okay. Binsky. >> Yes. >> Lzetti. >> Yes. >> Still, >> yes. >> And Melvin, >> yes. >> Okay.
>> All right. Seeing no further business on our agenda tonight, no public comment for no public. Uh motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I I >> That's a wrap. All right. Wow. 8:00.
That was Jeez. >> Told you.