reaction. >> He's probably getting ready for >> No, I got into something today and my one eye is literally swole shut ago. >> All right. Good evening everybody. I'd like to call the meeting to order if we could all stand for a moment of silence.
A flag salute. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [clears throat]
All right. In accordance with NJSA 10-4, adequate notice of this meeting has been provided to Star Ledger in the express time as well as posted on the township's website and on the bulletin board in the municipal building satisfying the requirements of the open public meetings
act. All right, we have some minutes first we have to go through and approve. We have June 16th uh regular minutes and the executive session minutes. Does everybody take taking the time to look at them? Anybody have any comments?
Hearing none, can we move those forward? >> I wasn't here, mayor. >> All right, I'll move them forward then. Nelson, can you second that? >> Mr. Letti? >> Yes. >> Mr. Melvin, >> abstain. >> Mayor Slack. >> Uh, yes.
All right. Motion to pay bills. Payment of bills presented in the proper form signed by the director of each department and approved by the majority of members and listed on the bill list. Anybody have any issues with their bills? Everybody have a chance to get
through them? Anything special, Scott, that we should No, I mean we uh just so we had the tax rate that was finally approved by the state after review. Um, so there's a 25-day grace period from from that. So the only thing it's going
to affect is the payment to the the large payment to the school. Um, but we talked to the school and on the agenda is a uh partial payment that satisfies their needs for now until we can get uh up to date with the uh 25day delay.
>> Okay, >> mayor. I'll go ahead and move them forward. Melvin. >> Okay. Second, >> Mr. Lozetti. >> Yes. >> Mr. Melvin. >> Yes. >> Mayor Slack. >> Yes. >> All right. Public comment. Any public
comment pertaining to agenda items and agenda items only. Uh please come forward and sign in if you'd like to make a comment about anything on the agenda. All right. Seeing none, uh we have a proclamation tonight, uh recognizing the achievements of the
Girl Scouts Bronze Award recipients. So, uh if everybody involved would like to come forward and I will read the proclamation. Ah, >> wow. There's some tough names on there,
too. All right. You can please keep them around. Okay. And just for everybody's information, I'll be your slack here. All right. Miss Township over the
prohation recognizing the achievements of the Girl Scout Bronze Award recipients. Whereas the Girl Scout Bronze Award is the third highest accolade a Girl Scout can earn, requiring a challenging mix of
problem identification, strategic planning, leadership development, advocacy, and a profound commitment to community service. 10. Whereas Paige Graham, Charlotte Havina,
Alva Gaji, >> Gaji, William Kaine, and Alexis >> Lamola >> Lamandola collectively known as the Super Scouts have officially or have successfully met and exceeded
these rigorous requirements through their outstanding bronze award project, erasing fu food insecurity. [clears throat] And whereas these five remarkable young leaders step forward to confront the critical issue of food
insecurity within our region, deeply researching the challenges faced by families in need, fighting the social stigma surrounding hunger, and actively working to feed the hungry. And whereas through their immense dedication and
collaborative spirit, the Super Scouts, partnering with over 10 community organizations to coordinate highly successful food drives, volunteer their personal time at the local soup kitchen, and produced an invaluable digital
resource guide video to assist people navigating food insecurity. And whereas their tireless volunteerism, leadership, and compassion serve as a powerful inspiration to the residents of
Pacon Township, embodying the true spirit of active citizenship and community care. Now, therefore, be it resolved that township council of the Pohak town of the township of Pohakam does hereby extend its warmest
congratulations and highest commendations to Paige Graham, Charlotte Hamina, Albuquera, Lillian Kaine, and Alexis Lamodola on earning the prestigious Girl Scout
bronze award. We express our deepest gratitude for their meaningful contributions to our community and we wish them continued success as they bridge to their next exciting chapter in Girl Scout.
And witness whereof I have here unto set my hand and cause the great seal of the township of Kahakan to be fixed this day 21 July 2026. And it's signed. CONGRATULATIONS. [applause] >> How about a a picture with the seal in
the back? >> Yeah. [clears throat] >> Can we get one with the other town council members? >> Sure. Sorry. >> No problem. Still more tonight. >> All right.
You guys don't have to stay if you don't want to stay for this torture. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Have a wonderful rest of your summer. >> Congratulations. >> Congratulations. Good job. Good job. >> Thank you.
>> Have a good night. >> Bear with us. [laughter] All right, let's move on. That was feel good kind of thing. I like that. >> Yeah, that was >> All right, we have an appointment uh pending council approval for Mr. Melvin to sit on the
open space advisory committee as a regular member. I'll uh I guess we'll just vote on it. What do you think there, Nelson? Is that okay? >> Yeah, I think that's fine. >> All right. So, can I can I vote now? No, you can, but there's two of us that's going to say yes. So,
>> no, we can't afford for you to vote no. [laughter] >> You You're on the open space advisory. What What did you say, Scott? Once before meeting or twice a year? >> Yeah, it's sort of the same as the farmland where it'll be like a half hour before the meeting like a couple times a year. >> Yeah, that's fine.
>> All right. Thank you, Kevin. All right. Uh, our other Kevin here with our attorney's report. I gave you guys a written report, but just to go down the list real quick. Um, spoke with the cubes. Looks like they're off till spring, although they may may
get going later this year, but right now construction's expected next spring. So, >> that's at the mall property. >> That's at the mall property. That's the cubes. Um, I did get from Ingram a copy. >> Sorry, Kevin. Um, just with regards to the per we get the money when they pull
the permits, >> correct? Permits. Yes, we don't have the permits yet. No, >> working on the plans to I hope so. >> I hope they get the permits this year. That would be nice. >> Um, >> Ingramman actually did get their building permits. That was a request by
Fair Share. That ties into the third item. I I uh received the draft of a the final consent order to wrap up that affordable housing round four. Um, getting those permits and circulating the fair share was one of the last
things they had asked for. Hopefully by next meeting we'll have that uh signed consent order by the judge and that litigation is officially done. That also includes the revised plans for Shimemer School. Um and that will give us
protection through 2035. So we won't won't have to deal with it for 10 years and and again maybe never at this point. >> 10 years. >> Silver Hill. Uh, I know John's not here tonight, but all the deeds are out to Silver Silver Hill. Wayne got me all the
descriptions. Uh, we we need a drainage easement from one private resident and we need a actually road easement because a piece of the road actually was built on to one of the the uh subdivision properties. Um, I understand from John
that to expect getting those deeds shortly. So probably again by next meeting Silver Hill might be a public road. Um the ball fields Wayne also gave me a deed a deed of easement to finalize a I'm sorry description to finalize a
permanent easement for the utilities the water and electric utilities. I prepared that and I sent that to um John Kamigno the uh board attorney. I haven't heard back yet but again I expect that to be wrapped up pretty pretty easily.
Um on your on your agenda are a couple things you had asked me for previously. One is a modification for the cannabis ordinance which would um allow uh the issuance of licenses for class one agriculture agricultural licenses. Um I
don't know if you want to move that forward tonight or sit on it or take a look at it. What I I didn't put any limitation on the number of permits. We have a lot of farmers, but I did put a limitation of 50 acres minimum to get a permit. But that's just something I kind of put in there thinking that you might
want some minimum acreage cuz typically in my understanding the minimum size for an agricultural canvas is 20 to 30 acres. So I'm assuming you want a little bit of little bit of room. Um, I also circulate a draft ordinance that would
codify basically the fact that data centers at this point are not a permitted use in the township. Mayor, you had talked about that a little bit. The way we're going about that and this is something Jim Kyle and I discussed. I think it's the best way to do it here in Hackcon. I'm also doing it this way in
Belvadier, but basically um the only way we'll be permitted to use the president is if data center could be construed to be a warehouse. So what we're doing is we're adding the definition of data center that was in the current sample that has been circulating around the county for a
while. We added that definition of data center to our ordinance and then we're adding a sentence basically to our warehouse definition to indicate that a warehouse is not to be construed as a data center. >> So we're defining it in our
>> defining it out uh keeps it very simple. The nice thing about just doing definitions is you don't have to get into master plan and notices and all other things to property owners within 200 ft. Once we introduce that, we can send it to the land to the land use board for their review and comment, but
that that would basically lock in the fact that they're not permitted. Doesn't mean somebody couldn't apply for a use variance, but uh to outright prohibit them would be an expensive master plan expense, and I don't think Scott wants us to spend that kind of money. Didn't somebody up in one of the northern
townships get in trouble for doing that? >> I thought I read a blog somewhere that somebody >> I listen I I think an outright prohibition could certainly be challenged. And I don't and I'm not here to get us into more lawsuits. I think that this is the appropriate step. Actually, even the current ordinance doesn't classify as a permit a
prohibited use. It classifies it as non-permitted. And that's basically what we're doing. Um so there's those two. Um, uh, and oh, and you do also have on your agenda, I know they came in a little late, sorry. They have been percolating
for a little bit, but I wanted Jeff Flaminsky, our redevelopment council, take a last look. But there are a couple ordinances to basically change the name of the redeveloper for the RDG project and to actually introduce the ordinance for the redevelopment plan itself. Um,
those are also on your agenda. So it was kind of a >> that was only though to change because they they changed names and that's the only reason everything else stayed the same cuz the ordinance is from the approved uh land use board approval from
25 uh 2025. So there was nothing. >> No. Yeah. It's just the redevelopment plan basically codifies what they did at there's no more units or anything like that. Yeah, we but we have to get the name change. The next thing you guys
will see, you'll be familiar. You're going to see applications for the tax exemption and they have to provide those approves. But we're slowly moving our way forward with that. One last thing on redevelopment. I did also check with Jeff. It's gone a little bit quiet with the school, the Shinber School, the former Shiner School. So, he's going to
follow up with their council and I mean I do see obviously the building is down. >> Where has they been coming to the land use at all? Anything? >> They're done. They're done. >> It's approved. Yeah. But they have a lot of changes to make to the plans to effectuate. >> So I mean I would I would expect by fall we'll probably start seeing the
beginnings of their redevelopment documents. >> It's just there is a revenue stream at light at the end of the tunnel here for the residents. >> I think that's it may. >> All right. Thank you Kevin. We'll move on to Wayne.
>> All right. I won't um follow up on most of these because a lot of them are kind of sitting status quo. Um, we do still want to get that guide rail project going. The only thing holding it up at this point is before they'll the DOT will sign the plans, they want the state historic preservation office to review
the guide rail. I don't know why. >> Um, so basically, we figured if we don't hear by them uh till next week, we're just going to authorize the the contracts that we already uh approved. Um, they've had enough time to look at at this point. Um, Persing in Ohio, all
the projects are done. Uh we've gotten positive things from the DOT that everything is good and they're starting to issue checks. So I I haven't heard that any have or haven't come in, but um all the all the bills as submitted, you know, nothing's been challenged and that I
understand they've been uh starting to issue the invoices for those. Um we finally received our our comments back from the state on the tax maps, which looks bad, but it's really not. It's the same comment repeated like 30 times. So,
we'll just do that and we're in pretty good shape. Um, and timing is good because that allows us to change the the alley maybe. >> Oh, yeah. We are we are changing from Pacron Street to uh Zeer's Alley, >> right? >> Um, while while Wayne's doing that was that was kind of 911 coordinator >> coordination, if you will. And I think
the address is already in Zeller's Alley. >> Yeah, there's two houses with Zeller's Alley currently on it. Uh, Pakcon Alley >> is the other part, but it was Pohakan Street as well. So it's confusion in the CAD system for the 911 center.
>> Yeah, you don't want that. >> So it's just I think the easiest I think the consensus between the three of us and Tim was let's just change it to Zeller's Alley is >> then they don't have to change addresses or anything. There's people so >> and there's no other addresses that affect it. The two there are already numbered with Zeller's alley
>> and it's a straight street. I have no idea why it ever ended up with two. >> Yeah. >> Um you just have to add a motion then to allow Wayne to change it on the tax maps, right? >> Sure. Yeah. From Castro, I said, "Yeah, keep it simple." >> Yeah. >> Uh and then the only other one I'll
really mention is uh the aqua lead line replacements uh and water line replacements are are underway. Um I know in the Shimemer development is where they're they're doing most of their work. So um you know, gotten the random complaint here and there, which is to be expected. Um but uh so far, you know,
work's going pretty well and we should get some nicely paved streets here uh at the end of the day. Wayne, in reference to that, I sent you an email late this afternoon. Yep. >> Of a complaint. >> Yeah, I just talked uh Noel about that. I mean, I think the that is a garage
that has had that complaint for 10 [clears throat] years >> and now it's a hot topic >> and there's nothing happening by that and that garage has fallen down in the first place. Okay. So, I I don't think there's anything for the township to do. >> Okay. >> That's all I have.
>> All right. Which which one is Willows? Uh that's Ingramman's project. >> Okay. That's one down point. >> Yeah. There's no I mean it's just it's standard fair at this point. They they seem to have their blasting done. The major infrastructures in it's just you know now they're just on the main you know building construction and the site
work. Uh there was also in reference to that, there was also an email circulated from Jim Kyle um where Ingramman was asking uh what the status is of our affordable housing funds because they got hit with
a I guess a million dollar something from like fees from Aqua for some kind of that that Aqua's mandating like that wasn't expected. So >> we authorized 225, didn't we, Scott? I don't know if we ever gave it to him though. Yeah, but they're looking
>> I know that, but I mean they never get the 225. >> No, they haven't. So, they know that, but we they have not submitted anything to get that yet. Like, >> why don't I email Jeff copy you and say, "Hey, Jeff, we already approved 225." I'll just tell them, "Hey, we're still kind of waiting." Yep.
>> For the rest. >> Yeah. >> Um >> I emailed them Matt like he wanted Jim was asking for status on >> Okay. >> uh the cubes and Girana. So, he was given status and basically saying >> we don't have it. Yeah, but I would say we Jeff probably doesn't realize he
needs a voucher or something to get that >> to. So if they just communicate with me, we'll get a voucher and then >> I'll let them know that. >> And I said to Kevin's point um earlier if we're lucky and they and they draw permits on the cubes, half of that's due at permit. So we would have some >> Oh, we did finalize those numbers for
Lackon. >> We it was brought up uh last week or >> Yeah. So their engineer gave us uh emailed me the percentages. They looked >> when it come out. >> It was it we said 6040. It was actually
54. It was very close >> but it was the number was more in our favor. >> Got better in our favor. Great. >> More in our favor. Yeah. >> We were in the mid 40s >> um compared to just 40%. >> So I said just I I said that well we're good with those numbers. Let's just put them on there.
>> Perfect. All right. Nothing else, Wayne? >> No, I think that covers the main ones. >> All right. Uh, move on to council reports. Anybody on council have anything they'd like to make noteworthy? >> If not, we'll let Scott do a summary if
Scott wants to. The only thing I would mention, mayor, and uh Wayne touched upon it, is we had the Shimemer school um project come before and it did get full approval. Um I know that the redevelopment plan took the footprint
down three to four. I think really the only modification that there was some further debate about was the parking spaces. Um Wayne had made actually Jim Kyle had made a recommendation that I didn't agree with taking it down to maybe 56 spaces which I thought was too
low. >> 56 >> 56 from 80. Um >> I thought they compromised on 70. So >> yeah. So we um we ended up taking it to 72 I think was the number Wayne. Right. >> That sounds right. >> Yeah. At the end of the day which got us
I think it was 1.92 spaces per unit. Um, so we think it's something that's uh uh definitely reasonable. Um, and it made for some uh I guess construction or engineering type uh easements uh that
Wayne actually recommended that the applicant didn't uh didn't do. So um the uh land use board did push that forward at the last meeting. And I guess as it relates to council, I mean, they haven't come back yet, but I think the plan is to take that triangle piece in the
center of those roads and released their rights or something back to the town. >> It it has never been a block and lot, but they owned it by the deed. So, it's just been an anomalous thing sitting in surrounded by streets. >> There's a few rights to it.
>> Well, just whatever form that has to take, uh, Kevin, but >> dedicated on the site, that's all. put a note on there and dedicate it. That's all. >> Yeah. And then so then we can take >> and then we can just I can just reference the cloud map in a in a and accept it. >> That's great cuz I think like that's an opportunity to like formalize some
parking with the residents really need over there. So >> Okay. Yeah. Just tell them put a specific like numbered note on the final plan. Okay. >> That they're releasing and vacating their rights to that or whatever. Can they give us a description >> or can you >> Yeah, we actually could. I mean we know what the street rightaways are. We could
just ask them to to describe it. It's funny. It's not a block of water. >> We'll just accept it by by ordinance like we were going to do with Silver Hill. Okay. So, we could >> Nelson, you have anything you'd like to comment on? >> Uh I I do not have anything to comment
on, I do not have anything uh new to uh add since last meeting. >> Okay. The only thing I'll make mention uh I got an email as well as Did you get that one, Scott, about the litter on uh Block Street? >> Yeah. from a local resident and I think
we went through this before in the spring about uh township lines and such. But I'll follow up with her and see maybe even take a ride down there and if it's not in Po Hackon, you know, director whether it be Low Pacon or
Philipsburg. But I guess she said there's been random dumping down there. But that's a a problem throughout the township on any of the rural roads. I saw there was stuff dumped off at Edge Road. Again, it's just an ongoing issue.
Uh the only thing I have of mention to make uh would be last week we had a a retirement lunch in for our um judge, Judge Melinger, after 15 or 17 years is
hanging it up. Um he's in his 70s. It's time. Um he was a good judge or is a good judge. uh was well attended. I thought everybody had a nice time. Uh he spoke quite a quite a fair bit. Um he's a nice
guy. He really is. Wished him well. But we're moving on. We've got um Judge Caro and I think he's on the agenda. Well, actually the resolutions. Um so we're we're glad to see him retired. We're sad but glad.
Other than that, I don't have anything additional on my uh my end. So, we'll move on to resolutions. Everybody want to take a look at the resolutions we have. Mayor, I just had like over my like three things, three or four things real quick. I'll I will absolutely read
all the other stuff. Um >> the uh we the bond uh we had the bond sale for the town. >> Um we took 300,000 off the debt uh for this year. Uh we ended up getting a one year at 3.2% 2% uh where like the
average is like 3.4. So it uh it it was a really good sale for us. Um and we got 300,000 taken off. Um the um Oh, we need to at some point name the
park behind the school. Uh, in order for us to get an address for the school property or for the park property, we need to name the school. So, um, if you guys could start thinking about potential names that you would be interested in or
>> by Park I [snorts and laughter] Jerry Plywood Park, that's all I care about. >> Yeah. So, uh, that's just something that we have to do just for >> probably need that for grants and stuff too, don't this guy at some point? >> Yeah. So, sooner rather than later on
that >> um community park, >> you good with that? >> Community park. >> That's That sounds all right. >> Okay. >> Although, uh John's not here tonight.
Isn't this his baby? Should we >> He did He didn't really >> He didn't care. >> All right. Um and then I talked about the tax rate because we understand that one. Uh oh. Um, in reference to zoning, it was it was a
light month for like complaints and stuff, but one of the things that I know has been a hot topic is 228 Mountain Road, >> the guy living in the trailer where finally we got notification from uh is her name Susan from uh soil
conservation? No, Sandra. >> Sandra. Sandy. >> Sandy. Sandy is the one. So they he they finally filed for a permit with them. Uh they have an engineer now and they've done permits with uh Andrew as well. >> Good.
>> So we're on the right move with that property. Um cuz I know that's been a sewer subject with the uh the way they're doing that property right now. Um the other thing is uh it's not a there's no there's not a motion for it,
but um you guys got uh provided the uh bids or the the prices for leaf pickup for 2026. The low lowest bid was uh 96 landscape um for the same services that we've been
getting. Um and for snow plowing for 2627 was pips paving. Um, so if you guys are okay with that, they meet all the requirements under what they put in. Um, we could pro we should probably add a motion um to award PIPS for 2026 27 and
then uh award 96 Landscape for 26 lead pickup. >> All right. So we'll we'll do that in the motions. >> Yeah. To addition >> um we also got uh some complaints about Crestwood Park, the basketball court. Um, so we're in the process of getting
uh some prices for um top coat uh of that to to make make it right. Um, but that's we we don't have any we're not finalized on that yet. We're still waiting for some things. >> Uh, the only other thing is is we do need a brief executive if you want to do
that before the motions and everything or after. That's up to you guys. >> Will we need to add something to the motions once we have the executive? want me to take action >> or take action? >> Um, >> I don't I don't think so.
>> Yeah. May maybe it's just it's it's shared service stuff. >> Oh, shared service. >> All right. We'll we'll we'll take it at the end. >> Scott, with regard to that uh the basketball court thing that Crest, what what was the nature of that? Just like we need top coat is needed or the
surface is no good or what was because >> Yeah, there were some large cracks in there. So, they gave Crestwood. >> Yeah, Crestwood. >> Basketball or the basketball? >> Basketball. >> That's basically covered with >> That's not covered with mud. >> Yeah, it was scraped off though. The the
road department went down and scraped it off and cleaned it up. >> Well, I guess that's the point I'm making. I think the nature of that little spot. >> You've got a real The drainage is really bad. >> You've got Well, the drainage is fine in terms of bringing mud on down the road. >> Yeah. >> Which is going to happen again very quickly. I I just want to point out that
you may not be looking at if there's an interest in improving [clears throat] that, spending money. It may be just a little bit beyond putting a new surface down, right? You may need to do a little something edges for barrier, you know, move it. Not >> you. I talked to Jeff about that and he we already we were discussing that. Um,
but the the the biggest we're asking for quotes specifically for the the starting point. >> Yeah. As a starting point just to get a idea of what the potential cost could be to upgrade it. >> Gotcha. I just wanted to mention >> All right. Thank you, Scott.
So, now we'll move on to the resolutions. We have several. Everybody want to just quick take a look at them, see if there's any questions. Um if we need to take any of them separately >> we kind of discussed.
>> Yeah, we kind of discussed them all. So we >> I can't see. >> I'll move them forward. Mayor Melvin. >> All right. Thank you. >> Second. >> Mr. LZ. >> Yes. >> Mr. Melvin. >> Yes. >> Mayor SL. >> Yes. All right. Ordinances for first reading. We have three different
ordinances. Um, I believe Kevin Kevin touched on these already. >> Um, >> you comfortable with the 50 acres? >> That's what I wanted to just >> I mean, we can Yeah. On the second one there. >> We can Let's make a motion to introduce
them, then we can discuss, but we do. I just I mean, I kind of made that up, but No, >> I get it. You got to start somewhere. >> I'll start somewhere. I want >> wanted to see what you guys You guys are the farmers, so I don't know if you want that's too big or >> Yeah. Well, we'll let let's introduce them. >> Yeah. And then we'll have a little
discussion on the cannabis one because I'm I'm kind of like Kevin. I think most of our farmers, you know, some of them that 50 acres would be a stretch. Even >> the the minimum the minimum of the facility is not 50. It's just the track of land has >> No, no. Yeah, I get that. >> It [snorts] sits on No, I I understand
that. >> And it's hard to to realize on 50 acres what the buffer would be all the way around if you made them put it right in the center. I know. I'm just trying to envision my place is 42 or 44. Yeah, you'd have a hell of a good buffer
around it. But all right, let's introduce these three. Uh they'll be adopted at our next meeting hopefully. So, who wants to introduce them? >> I can move them forward, Melvin. >> All right. And I'll second that. >> All in favor? >> I All right. So, some discussion now on
the cannabis. I mean, what are you thinking, Kevin? I mean, I I I I wouldn't certainly wouldn't go above 50. And frankly, when I put it in there, as I was actually typing it, I'm like, well, that that might be a little big. As I said, I've been involved with a couple agricultural canvas applications
and and the largest one I've seen so far is 30. So, I mean, I could see certainly see dropping it to 35 or 40 or if you want to drop it all the way to >> 25. >> 25. >> I was thinking 25 or 30. >> 25 or 30. I I guess could we leave anything in
there that if it was below a minimum of for site plan approval or >> it's subject to site plan approval anyway. I put that in the ordinance. >> Okay. >> They have to go what I did for that though because again I'm thinking this is a farm related exercise and cannabis is considered agricultural.
>> Um I made it a minor site plan approval. You guys okay with that? >> They have to regardless of the size they got to get site plan approval. >> Yeah. >> Why don't we make it what do you want 25 or 30? I I would say 25 and everything still has to get through the site plan process >> and if if if if they can always apply
for a variance if it's something less but I think that I think that's reasonable Nicole you have that in order you can you can do that like before you advertise it. >> Okay thanks all right that's it. >> All right ordinances tonight for second reading we have none.
Um, so old business. Anybody have anything they'd like to bring up that we've discussed in the past? >> Nope. >> New business. We just talked about the uh leaf pickup and the snow plowing. So, I guess we'd have to make those awards
uh at this point. So, I'd like a motion to award the leaf pickup to >> 96 Landscaping. 96 landscaping >> and the snow plowing to >> pips for the additional snow plowing. >> We could just specify for
>> tick up is just 26 plowing is 26 27 cuz there was an option for plowing to go 2728 but I would prefer to uh do it yearly with what some of the numbers I saw. >> Yeah, I would too. Especially with the way fuel goes up and down. I would leave
it a year at a time. I'm moving forward. >> I'll second it. >> Mr. Lozetti. >> Yes. >> Mr. Melvin. >> Yes. >> Mayor Slack. >> Yes. >> All right. Motions. Everybody take a look at the motions
that we need to add an additional two. Two, I believe. I know. You just Well, the only one you have to add is the tax map. Now, I think you just took care of the other two [clears throat] motions you just made. >> Okay. >> We just got to make sure Zellers gets in there to pack. >> Yeah, that's what we're doing. A motion
to amend the tax map is being added to authorize Wayne to put that on the tax. >> Anybody have any questions on any of the motions? >> It's already on there. >> A soccer line painting robot.
>> Oh, yeah. It It's for football. It's for all wreck. It's It's um the robot comes out and does all the painting. Uh me, Jeff, and Billy were out there for the uh demo. Um, and it you they give you a
tripod, GPS it, they program it for you, the paint's in the machine, you hit start, and it does everything for you. Mhm. Yeah. Most towns around us, actually, I think all the towns around us have it if I'm not mistaken. I know
Loat, uh, Beeberg has them. I'm not sure about Alpha, but >> it'll car paint wheel, huh? >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, one of the issues that we have is the with the paint we the the paint machine is it seems to be more
>> maintenance driven now, right? With with clogs and parts breaking where this we do this lease and the robots on warranty. So, anything breaks, they do a diagnostic, they service it. We get 60
gallons of paint included a year in the price, uh, which will cover it. And it also frees up, uh, you know, manpower to have to be there cuz you can set it basically and forget it. >> Yeah. >> And it takes like two and a half hours to do the field.
>> Sends you a text when it's running low on paint. >> Yeah, it does. It has a It has the Yeah. >> The rise of the machines. >> Yeah. Jeez. Did >> you see Clarkson's farm this year? No. >> Watch. It's all about farming and it's got all that stuff. The robots.
>> Yeah. >> All right. So, with the addition of the the tax map motion with the naming. Can we take all these together? >> Yeah. Is that one already on there though or is that Do we have >> Yeah. to authorize Wayne Ingram to reflect a name change?
>> Oh, okay. It's already >> to Zeller's Alley. There's a blank space. Zeller's out. Clon Street, the Zellers out. >> So, it's actually the reverse. >> Yes, it's the reverse. >> Yeah. Okay, I'll move them forward. You got everything, Noel. What do you mean anything? Okay, Melvin, >> I'll second that.
>> All in favor? >> I >> Any public comment? Anybody have any general public comment at all? Please come forward and sign in. Speak your peace. All right. Seeing none.
Uh Scott, you said we need a brief executive session. >> Yes. >> Need a motion to go into >> shared service. >> Shared service contract. >> So moved. Melvin >> second. >> All in favor? >> I
>> I may or may not take action. So I don't know if anybody want to stick around. >> Name for the name for >> name for the record. That's all. Do you want to turn go back on? >> You're still on. >> I apologize for >> I was waiting for you to get up, but
>> this is my first time. >> That's all right. >> No worries. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Okay. I I practiced this uh many times. I hope I don't screw it up what I'm about to say. >> Well, first tell us who you are. >> My name is Charles Pearson. Uh I live with 78 county road 519 here in our beautiful quiet community. I'm standing
here before you tonight to urgently request township intervention and stricter regulations regarding a disruptive Airbnb operating our neighborhood at 25 Miloteswood Road. This house is a corporate owned and ran out of New York. Over the past few
years, this single single short-term rental has completely destroyed the peace, safety, and rural characters that we love about Kovac County. Last year, we had submitted to you zoning, fire, and many other township officials a signed petition from the local people being affected against this commercial
business. As a taxpayer of almost $12,000 a year, I find it appalling that their tax has been noted to be under 5,000 when their evidence shows that they're making approximately that in one week. Our community chose it was chosen for its tranquility and has been replaced by a rotating door of
commercial partygoers. Instead of enjoying our quiet, relaxing summer days, we often pray for rain as it hopes they stay indoors. Even our wildlife has significantly decreased due to the non-stop party. The daily disruptions that we face are blasting music and
yelling. Noise begins in the morning and frequently extends late into the night featuring screaming, shouting, and music blasting. The constant use of their heated back their heated backyard pool has turned into a commercial swim club hosting large unsupervised crowds at all
hours of the night. Also, illegal fireworks. Guests are routinely detonating which terrifies our pets, our sleep, and poses an immediate wildfire threat to our healthy wooden area. Unattended open fires, large open bonfires have been noted left burning
late into the night using catastrophic fire forest fires in our secluded backwoods terrain. The impact on our community, our neighborhood is situated in a rural wooden zone, and we do not have the infrastructure, the street lighting, or the immediate emergency response presence to handle this
constant large-scale commercial operation. Almost every single summer day, we're forced to police this property by ourselves. We have to choose between confronting aggressive strangers or repeatedly calling the police department just to get some se sleep. Last summer, we had called the police
department approximately 20 times, including my neighbors. This summer, we're doing pretty good. It's only been three times that I know of by us. This is not a homeowner occasionally hosting a family. This is a commercial hotel operating illegally in a quiet residential zone. As noted, the pool
should be secured, from my understanding, with a $1 million insurance bond to also protect this township. From my research, I'm assuming that hasn't been done. Our requested actions were not against people renting out their homes responsibly. However, we
need the council to protect the permanent residents of Kohakon who pay taxes, maintain their property, and live here year round. We respectfully ask the council to enact on some some suggestions that we put together and formulated. Um maybe pass a short-term
residential ordinance establishing clear enforcement and acceptable rules, uh including mandatory registrations and strict occupancy limits. may enact a two strike penalty rule imple implementing a heavy fine for owners who permit repeated violations leading to the
immediate replication of their license after two offenses and possibly mandate a local property management requiring someone to be there within 30 minutes that could resolve our complaints. Um, and of course the number one that we
fear the most is a fire. Enforce quiet hours and fire bands and then flint for hours and ban totally open fires. Um, that's enough of me reading this, but me as a person, I just want to say the fires are are are really of as important
as anything. We have people that come around here. If we we've been doing our research, looking at the Airbnb website, people leave comments. They're from Bloomfield. They're from East Florence. from all over the state regardless they don't have the this the the country
living in them. So this is all new and exciting to them. This is not a campground. This is our homes that we live in and we're dealing with this every single day from morning and and unfortunately they have a heated pool which is great for them but that means it goes on until way into the end of the
summer. So I just respectfully wanted to let me know this. Uh my neighbor Marty was here at the last meeting you had and he had brought this to your attention. Um and I'm just here to to do my dil diligence. >> Yeah, I think we did talk about taking a look at some upgrades and >> trying to reel in a little bit. Nick,
there there's no open burning in POA period or in the state. Correct. >> I was going to say the fire >> they have to require a permit. >> Fire safety needs a permit. >> Burning stuff in the backyard. Even a campfire, you have to have a burn per. So, if they're burning and they don't
have a permit, which the um the comm center would know about the county, um if they're burning, especially unattended, uh call us out and we'll come out >> and forest fires come out and there'll be a paper trails out and put it out or
get a permit and you know, you can only burn certain kinds of stuff. Got >> see. And the other problem that relates to that is the officers. Once they go out there, they tell somebody, but it's not as if them people are going to be there the next day. >> It's new people every single day. And we
look at their calendars and we keep track of that in our kitchen. We have a board there. Oh, I guess we're going to hear music and all this going on. So, they have to keep going back out there and telling them over and over and over again because they're new people there. You know, it's not like they came out and gave somebody a warning and, you know, next week they did it again. No,
it's a new person. I I just did a pretty comprehensive update for uh another municipality I represent. So, I'm going to get that to the I just made a note, Frank. I'll take the I think I meant to do that actually after our last meeting. It just fell off my radar, but I'll get that to the
council. Has a lot of the things you're talking about in it. the mandatory registration, limitations on the number of people, uh, a local contact, all that stuff has kind of worked its way into more modern Airbnb ordinances, and it will probably help the chief enforce it
more, too. So, I I'll I'll have that to the council well before the next meeting and start >> I mean, the open the burn just call >> the burning call. >> Call in. >> I mean, fire on that, not not the police. >> Yeah. I mean, but that's something that's already on the books. You don't
have to wait. There's, you know, that wouldn't be an emergency number, right? I wouldn't call the fire department. >> So, so if they're burning something and obviously it's not burning down, you could call the non-emergency number for the county. >> And just say, "Hey,
>> they're burning stuff in the backyard. There's no way around it. This large bonfire and then we'll come out and we'll investigate it." And then uh forest fire will come out as well. And forest fire will find you. Forest Fire. I was going to say Forest Fire. We'll find >> I mean Forest Fire lives right down the street, right Nick?
>> I'm just I met u the guy that moved into that house right on 519 there. Um he's one of the wardens, so he's like one of the high ups and a number. >> Literally, he's like quarter mile or half mile down the road. >> If if we, you know, if they're burning unattended or they have big fires and
you know, >> that's the main concern. I mean, other than, you know, the noises and and all the other, you know, >> I mean, I think if we put a an occupancy limit on the the house, that would help a lot as well. The swimming pool business, I don't know about. We'll have to do some due diligence on that.
>> Well, there's also the noise ordinances. >> Well, the noise ordinance is on the books now, but I know what happens. It's just like Ravine Road. Guys go out and turn down and then as soon as the cops leave, they turn it back up. >> Yeah. cuz as a semi-retired uh business
owner, I just I don't understand the fact that this is you can Google it. You can research it. It's a business in a residential area and I thought it was a business to be ran in residential. >> We looked at the we had short-term
rentals. [clears throat] >> We had an ordinance on the books, but I would say at this point it it needs >> we need to tighten it up. It's not land. It's not owned by >> I will say one thing. Our current ordinance does require you to be living there. I I think it has to be owner occupied.
>> Yeah, this is an absentee owner. >> I I think there's some other things that need to be done. So, I I will get you guys. >> Thank you for an app. >> It was approved in November of 25 under our short-term rental
>> um uh ordinance. They met all the requirements with the insurance. They paid all the fees uh through zoning. Um and they were there was no reason to deny >> um at that point. >> Um but the ordinance specifies that once
approved, it's good for one year only, >> right? >> And then they must reapply. Um so if we're going to do and look at anything, we have to do it before the November deadline of them. >> Yeah. No, I'm going to have something for you guys to look at. >> We could I mean we could also put teeth
in in something basically saying if you get X number of strikes. >> Yeah, that's also state that now >> that's also in the draft I most recently did. There's a lot of stuff that this gentleman >> something goes back to the owner. >> So you probably you probably looked at some ordinances online. So what I have
is probably similar to what you're looking at. So we'll get that to the council for the next meeting to start taking a look at. We can certainly get on the books well before November. Well, thank you for the hear because I hate bothering the police department every all summer long. It's just they got better things to do. >> All righty. Thank you. Have a good
evening, council. >> You as well. Take care. >> Thank you. >> We want We need Do you want a motion to back into executive at this point? >> Go back in executive session. >> I'll second it. >> All in favor? >> I
>> All right. to go over what we talked about in executive. We have a potential shared service opportunity for our court with Holland Township, our neighbor uh in Hunton County right across the river. Uh we authorize Scott to enter in
discussions uh to see if that's a possibility. Uh we should know probably by what? Next council meeting. >> Yeah. Yes. Mhm. >> And that's I mean if if they are amicable to Uh what I would think of
offering them >> and that's it. >> Motion to adjourn. Melvin >> second slack. >> All in favor? I