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Part 1 (Video ID: j3Tq0yqqbqE):
- 00:00:00: Meeting Called to Order: Minutes and Bills
- 00:02:02: Public Comments - Agenda Items Only
- 00:02:36: Auditor Presentation: Tax Appeals & Budget Highlights
- 00:05:22: Discussion on Revaluation, Tax Appeals, and Pilots
- 00:13:21: Attorney's Report: Cubes, Ingramman, Prosecutor RFP
- 00:17:16: Land Use Attorney and Parking Recommendations
- 00:18:36: Discussion on R4 Zoning Changes for Residents
- 00:19:24: Engineer's Report: Grants, Road Repairs, and Drainage
- 00:21:36: Dispensary Applications and License Status Update
- 00:23:28: Growing License Discussion: Amending the Ordinance
- 00:24:06: Council Reports: Courts, Fire, Police, and Roads
- 00:27:34: Tax Assessor, Pilots, and Cubes Project Update
- 00:29:26: Zoning Applications, Complaints, and Trailer Issues
- 00:31:55: Sewer Rate Increase and County Engineer Hold Up
- 00:34:05: Executive Session and Personnel Discussion
- 00:34:21: Council Reports: Recreation, Land Use, and Watershed
- 00:37:51: Council Reports: River Road Complaint
- 00:38:08: Appointment to Historic Preservation Commission
- 00:39:12: Resolutions Discussion and Authorization to Apply
- 00:41:20: Municipal Budget Introduction and Resolution Vote
- 00:41:52: Ordinances: Zoning Changes, Parking, and Redevelopment
- 00:44:05: Data Centers Discussion: Non-Allowable Use Amendment
- 00:47:22: Public Comments - General
- 00:47:34: Executive Session Approval to Discuss Personnel
- 00:47:58: Post Executive Session - Approving Business Administrators Hire


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here on the second floor southside office. >> No. >> All right. I apologize for being late, everybody. I'd like to call this meeting order. In accordance with NJSA 10-4, adequate notice of this meeting has provided the star ledger and express

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times as well as posted on the council's website and on the bulletin board in the municipal building satisfying the requirements of the open public meetings act. We'll all stand for a moment of silence and a flag salute. >> Pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Councilman Binsky is asked to be excused this evening. He had a funeral in Connecticut.

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All right, we have some minutes from the April 21st meeting. Um, everybody have a chance to review those minutes. Anybody have any amendments or corrections? Hearing none.

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Would someone like to move those forward? So move. >> I'll second that. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Melvin abstains. was not here. >> Okay. >> Okay. Motion to pay the bills. Payment of the bills presented in proper form,

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signed by the director of each department, and approved by the majority of the members and listed on the bill list. Everybody get a chance to review their bills? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Anybody have any questions? >> Already answered. >> Very good. Nelson?

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>> No. >> All right. With that being said, then could we move our bills forward? >> So moved. Melvin second. Still, >> all in favor? >> I >> I. All right. Public comments pertaining to

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agenda items and agenda items only. If anybody has any comments they'd like to make about our agenda, anything on it, please come forward, sign in, and be recognized. Seeing none, uh, the attorney report Kevin had

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submitted, I believe, a written report. Correct, Nor? Yeah, I have it here. >> You want to go over to highlights, Scott? >> Do you want to um since the uh man came from the auditor and >> we can rearrange things? >> You want to rearrange so they can present first? Absolutely. Talk first or

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I answer questions. >> The table is yours. >> Good. You want me to sit here? >> Please. >> Whatever you guys want. Thank you very much. We had a actually a really good year last year especially

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which really helped us out with the budget. The biggest uh concern or effect was the reduction of our assessed overall assessed value due to uh tax appeals of over $8.5 million. What happens is that you have your amount to

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be raised. It's divided by that number and that's your tax rate simply. So that ended up causing um the average rate to go higher for the average household. And we're looking at about $157 um per average house. It would have been

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under $100 if it wasn't for that particular item. Some of the other things that um we did was um a new capital lease for the dump truck as you know, right? Um, we have we added a little bit to the 25,000 to the road

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repair capital budget, which I think we all talked about starting to increase that going forward. Um, what else do we have? Cool thing is that we started investing with the bank. We have them, they increased their interest rate for

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us and we were able to recognize a little under $100,000 last year. So, uh, we added to anticipate some of some more interest income this year. That'll reduce, of course, how much we have to raise. And, um, some of the other things

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that happened is that the pension went down a little bit, but everyone's affected by the health insurance. We were very fortunate. It's about 17%. The average is, it could be 39% out there. very expensive, but we ended up doing very well because we're self-insured

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partially. So, we've been planning ahead. That's the good news, I think. Um, I did add a little bit for contingency. We've never had anything in there. Little $10,000. So, um, all in all, if it was, we

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started at about 9% increase and then we took down we reduced the insurance a little bit, added a little bit to that. We um found a something in salary and wage which brought it down to 5% but we have that new pilot which is awesome and

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that brought it down to about 2.9% increase overall in the tax levy we'll be presenting when we go and adopt the budget next time but I thought I'd just highlight a few things in the budget. So >> and that eight some odd million dollars

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in assessed value we lost that was mostly commercial I assume. Yes, it's a tax appeal basically. >> And once we get our um RIAL done townshipwide, that'll help correct some of that. >> Yes, it will. >> I'm not saying it will gain it back, but it should help a lot. Correct.

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>> It will help a lot because it's everywhere and apparently the maps are done. I think at the county >> that the state maps back and it's in the hands of uh Wayne and Jen right now to finish them so we can get that ball rolling. Um, one of the other things too

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is with the 8.5 when they were doing the appeals, most of the appeals were asked for multiple multiple years until Jen said we were doing a reval. And as soon as those commercial companies knew we were doing a reval, they backed off and took only

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the one-year deal because they knew that it's going to catch back up to them after the after the reevaluation. The important thing about doing that is if we had gone backwards, the township has to pay back 100% of the tax. In other

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words, we would have to pay back the county portion, the school portion, and our portion. >> That's what we did with the mall that time when we gave them the million and some odd dollars. The school didn't pony up and neither did the county. >> They won't. >> They had to take it, you know, we had to

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bond a whole whole nut ourselves, which isn't right, but that's just the way it is. >> It is the way it is. And that's the that's the reason why I I stand pretty firm about pilots. You know, we we have to give 5% to the county. And um but

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doing this, we were able to reduce the our portion of the of the tax levy, remembering that it's a big it's the big pot for everybody. They're not looking at just us. They're looking at the big picture, right? And we could only control so much. But yes, that's the

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good news about going forward. And the sooner we can start the reval, the better. We've been talking about it for a couple of years already. The thing is, it's expensive. So, we'll we'll hope to spread that out for 5 years. We'll do an emergency. We were just talking about

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it, but you'll gain that money right back. >> I was going to say we should recoup that pretty quickly because the fat is our ratio is off. >> Yeah. Big time. Yeah. >> So, when do you think the earliest we can actually start to go up for the rebound? Well, we're just waiting to

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hear from Jen and Wayne. And then we'll >> So once they're done, then you go out to bid for >> then we go out to bid. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Jen already has all the paperwork for the bid packet already drawn up. >> Okay. >> Once the tax maps are final approval, she already has it put out for bid. >> How long? Yeah. Like

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>> uh what did she say? Uh she was doing a 30-day, >> right? Is that I believe for the bid. Um, but she already she she said to me there's really not many companies that do it and the one company that's already

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doing some around here is interested. And so she already knows that they'll have one bid. We'll have at least one bid. Um, and that company since they're already in the area will and we can get it rolling, they'll they'll be able to do it like ASAP. Okay. >> When is what she's telling

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>> when will the RFP expected to be go out? Four >> four. >> Oh. Uh, well, we got to do the >> tax. What's the ETA? I'm trying to understand it. Just um >> before the end of the year, I would assume. Correct. >> Oh, I wanted before that. Yeah. I was

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hoping by before end of summer. Um that that's the goal. Um and I think that's the goal of theirs too. >> And and you said 30 days for uh selection correct? >> And then what is the typical process for the evaluation itself? Um, first the

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first phase is the company goes out and they that we get the bid with them. They start the whole packet, right? And correct me if I'm wrong on that. I've never really done a reval, right? But um, >> she said it's a year. >> Yeah.

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>> About maybe more, but >> depends on how many properties you have. Right. Right. And and also you need to make sure that you you have to pass a emergency special emergency resolution and an ordinance to authorize for the expenditure,

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>> right? >> Yeah. That's what I was talking about before about spreading it over five years. What they're trying to understand is how long it takes for the rebound to take place. >> Yeah. >> About a year. >> It's a year. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, one more year of dealing with the

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8.5 and then hopefully that's it. >> Yeah. I would say by the end of 27 we should have >> it be 27 >> but the new 28 tax year >> what we talking about >> when the it would hit the books >> I think it depends on

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>> I think it may be 28 when it's done >> because >> the timing of when the books need to like send the books over so it's done before then I'm sure it can go in the books if it's not then it's going to be >> yeah I'm thinking 28th >> yeah that's what I think >> only because we have to have that in

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October for the following year. >> Yeah. >> So, yeah, let's shoot for that. >> But moving forward for next year, the 8.5 was this year. I don't believe next year's as big. Uh I think there was only I think Walmart had a couple years. Um

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but most of them were only one year um appeal agreements. >> Oh, so next year they can't appeal >> those. Yeah. So they they chose only to take the one year, right? because they knew that the reval is coming. So the 8.5 is hitting us this year. I next year I don't think it's going to be clo

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anywhere near 8.5. Maybe I know Walmart was like a three and then there was a two. So it might it's probably going to be at least a couple million less if not more. >> Okay. >> On the depend I got >> Do we have any add-ons and stuff? We'll

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have some add-ons. >> So that could offset that, >> right? >> Yeah. in October >> cuz by next year Ingramman should be on the books too. >> But that's a um that's not anything big. That's a 100% affordable which is like 75,000.

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>> It's 80,000 tops. >> Yeah, it's like 80,000 tops. So >> um but the cubes also, which will be in my report later, they they are trying to break ground by end of summer as well for the Philsburg Mall warehouse. So that could be something that and they

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were pretty optimistic about a year turnaround up there. Wow. So >> it should be fantastic >> in the meeting that I had the last week with them. >> But we'll see. >> Well, thank you. >> Oh, and the dispensaries will be on the books for next year as well.

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>> Oh, we get a percentage of that. Right. >> Correct. >> I like that. Um, I just thank you and the director for >> creative solution finding >> and uh I don't know if it's it's it's going to be lost on most people the fact

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that it would have been a lot higher had it not been for the pilot and for use of those funds and and your application of those. So >> I appreciate you'll be discussing some of that. >> Yes. >> Uh at the next that when we go to adopt, but uh I just wanted to say thank you for

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>> Oh, thank you. And we're we we're planning we're putting money aside for snow emergencies. We didn't have that problem this year cuz we're starting to plan. Um we're going to do something to put up on the website when we present at the next meeting. >> Yeah. >> Thank you.

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>> Yep. >> Anybody else have any questions for Ann or mom? >> You guys are welcome to head home. I mean, you both got a long ride, I'm sure. >> Yeah. >> We got an hour. Well, appreciate you changing the order this day. >> You got it.

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>> Absolutely. >> Thank you guys. Safe trip. >> I'll talk to you tomorrow. >> Thank you. >> Can I help you as well? Hope that coffee kicks in. >> I know. >> It's almost gone. I had an hour trip. >> Oh my god.

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>> See you. See you. >> All right. That's a pretty positive report. Glad to hear that. I guess we're going to peel the onions. >> What's that? Peel peeling. I don't want to hear that EVER AGAIN. >> I don't ever ever want to hear that

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again. >> Peel his onion. Oh. >> All right. Uh, attorney's report. Kevin had given us a written report. >> Yeah. >> I did not get a chance to talk to him. Scott, you did talk to him. Was there anything you wanted to highlight out of his um

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>> comments? >> He has in here the cubes. Um I mean he he's saying they're expected to break ground soon, but I had that meeting with the cubes and it they're right now depending on the market rate uh they're looking by the end of summer to break ground. Um the that I well

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since we're talking about I I'll report on that now. Um all sides were there. Lat was on the meeting, POAT and their their team as well. Um both sides for POA and Lopat with the engineers are on the same page. who's doing inspections,

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who's getting the fees, what the fees are, and their attorney said he understands, and they've already been in communication. So, all the balls rolling there. Um, and there it's just a wait for them to say they're ready. Um, so it looks like maybe end of summer on that.

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Um the Ingramman project he has is underway but that we already know that affordable housing litigation uh to there's a resolution endorsing the amended housing uh element and the fair share plan. The amended plan removes the Shimemer school

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uh from the affordable housing development. Uh and then the developer will pay the fee um that the fair share housing recommended as part of that agreement. It will be included in the project's redevelopment that our special counsel

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Jeff Winsky will be working on with the developers attorney. So that's still in the works but almost done. Um yeah, and then he just says that the redevelopment plan has already been revised and approved by land use board um for the uh three buildings instead of

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the four uh with everything else that was discussed. >> I assume that was received fairly well by the land use board. Then >> it was >> good. There was only one thing um in the in the actual plan itself that I

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could see a potential edit cuz they have the parking spaces we have cuz there's 80 spots for 39 units which is more than two but the plans have like 1.75 or something. >> Yes. That wasn't supposed to be like that. It was supposed to be 80 parking spaces.

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>> Yeah. So, I I think I I don't know if there's an opportunity to make that amendment or edit that so that it's two spaces per unit. >> Um, which is what they're actually satisfying so that nobody goes back and tries to change it. You know what I mean? >> No. Would that just be have it would the

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land use board attorney just be able to revise their resolution? >> I think so. >> On that just to go from 1.75 because the developer already agreed to the 80. >> Yeah. So, can we do you think that's something that we could just revise to take the 1.75 out and do 80 spaces?

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>> Is it in the resolution or it's in the actual plan? >> It's in the plan. >> It's in the plan. >> Probably have to revise the plan and then have to be >> reviewed. Okay. >> Yeah. I mean, that would be the only thing. And just again, you know, I feel that having gone through this the first time

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thinking that we had more control at the land use board and I do think that the developer is going to honor the AD spaces and stuff like that, but you know, one bit and twice shy. >> Mhm. >> Um just to make sure that these plans are um bulletproof. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.

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>> But I'll uh we can email Cliff and see what he thinks is best. >> Yeah. >> For that. Yeah, but I know Zach did show me the plan still had 80 or 81 spaces on it. So, >> and we have an agreement from the developer that says they're doing 80

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spaces. >> Maybe it's not necessary if the developer agreement is binding, >> right? We can find out if that's binding. >> If it's binding, then that's fine. >> I would visit and if it's binding, I wouldn't worry about any other >> We have it in writing from them 80 spaces.

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>> I would you guys do what you think is right. >> Yeah. No, I agree. If it's binding, then I'm not I'm not worried about it. >> I'll look into that. >> And again, I don't I think they'll honor it, but I don't want to. >> Did you have many people there from the public at the meeting? No.

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>> Okay. >> There was u at the last meeting there was one father's son that were interested in talking about the project. >> That was Millie. >> Yeah. >> So, but >> they live right across the street.

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All right. Anything else, Scott, with the attorney? >> Uh, just I I already talked to you guys about it, but he drafted a a RFP for a municipal prosecutor, which um we could discuss later in the executive session.

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Uh, and then on the agenda tonight is the R4 zoning changes um that we all spoke about to make it easier for the residents to not have to always get a variance. So, between Wayne,

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Andrew, uh Kevin, and myself, we all went through it and came up with what we thought was fair, uh, and what was okay with Andrew on with his inspections so that, uh, people can basically put garages a lot easier on their property and stuff. That's so they don't have to

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come to the land use board all the time and pay those additional fees. And that's it. >> All right. uh engineers report. Wayne had talked to me today a little bit. There wasn't a whole lot of things he

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had going on. Did he talk to you at all, Scott, or no? >> Yes, there was only a couple things to highlight from his report. Um unfortunately, uh one thing is is we did not get that uh freight grant for River Road. Um he said that um the grant was

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not awarded to the township. less than 50% of the grants submitted were approved this year. So, >> money's getting tighter, I think, is what he said last time. >> Um, the local aid grant for the guard rails, um, that that was the, uh, 235,000.

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Uh, the plans are prepared and submitted to DOT for review. The project will be, uh, performed throughout with the Morris County co-op uh, likely in the spring to be done. Um, Silver Hill Road, uh, the survey work is complete and, uh, as is

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the pavement restoration plan, easement and dedication descriptions have been prepared and submitted. Um, so all uh, I I believe by the July meeting, we should be able to have that on the agenda for to take over the dedication to the town.

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Um, so that was that ball's rolling on that one to finalize. Um, and then he wants to know if we want to apply for the NJ DOT local aid grant, um, which, uh, is the, you know, road repair grant. Uh, there's some

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recommendations for some areas, uh, maybe Mount Joy Road near 627. Um but uh, they can do up to two applications to be submitted. So, we just need to know if you guys want to do that again and submit for that one.

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And that's really all the highlights. Everything else is the same. He did say the uh water drainage runoff on uh Edge Road is fine. He hasn't had any issues with that. Um but nothing everything else is just repetitive from the months prior.

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>> Does he want to do anything for local tonight for the >> just to just to Yeah. If you guys are okay with it, just to approve that he can apply >> resolution. >> Uh it just be a motion. similar to me. >> Yeah, >> there's a resolution on there. >> Did you put it on it? Okay. Okay.

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>> Um Scott, just looking at the zoning, it says there was a denial for a dispensary at 602 Liberty Boulevard. >> Yes. >> Is that a new third? >> Mhm. >> No, it's a fourth. >> A fourth. Okay. >> Yeah. There was uh the third one was the other one on New Brunswick Avenue and

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then this was the fourth one >> where on New Brunswick >> that there's a house like two doors down from the one that was approved >> that they wanted to put it there right near the culde-sac. >> Oh, the old pink house. >> Yeah, the old pink house. Yeah. 998. One was 992 and one was 998.

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>> And where was the other one then? >> 602 Liberty. The the man's office. >> Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. So that one just came that Kev I mean uh Andrew just got the application for it and he denied it obviously because it's got to go to landing board

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anyway. So that that's why that was that was a fourth one. >> So where are we at with the licenses now? And there's a maximum of two, right? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> And have we awarded those two or >> so? The second one was supposed to be on

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the agenda tonight, but uh we weren't sure who was going to be here and available and that Kevin wasn't here, so we just put it on. We're putting it on for June. So that'll be the second one. >> And then there's applications are automatically denied. >> Correct.

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>> Yeah. So, and then we still have the for the one on New Brunswick, we still have the application and the check and me and Noel actually talked about it today. We're just going to wait until the second one's officially approved and then after that we'll send the application back with the check and just

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say look there's no more available. >> Okay. >> Do you want to collect interest on that one or >> probably be a headache? >> Whatever happened to the about the growing license? Remember we were the last time we were here we talked about

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but anything >> uh we would just have to amend >> the ordinance or amend the ordinance about uh to grow >> Kevin Kevin spoke about that and I don't think it's been spoken about again so I'll write it down to >> I'd be open to that

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not personally growing it but having it grown >> all right uh council reports. You want to go over whatever else you got, Scott, and then everybody on council can add in if there's anything additional in each department. Sure.

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>> Uh for the courts, uh POA had 138 cases new, 133 disposed, 5,3732.33 to the municipal deposit. Uh, Greenwich had 175 new cases, 193 disposed, 11,000.

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No, that's wrong. No. Uh, I got to double check that. It was not 11,000, but their total year was 28. Their total for the year is 28,62936. The 11,000 was the complete deposit, but

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not the municipal side. I I I mistyped that. I'll get that number. Um, oh no, it was actually never mind cuz they had lower numbers the rest of the ones. Yeah, it was $11,330.38 cents in the municipal deposit. And then

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Lacon had 187 new cases, 226 disposed, uh 10,49.96 in the municipal deposit for a total of 27,6219 for the year. I don't know, chief. You boys got to step it up a little bit.

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138 compared to 187. >> Bronze medal right now. You're in a bronze medal. >> And look at the numbers for Lopat. >> It was not that way when we negotiated. I can guarantee you that. >> And have we've renegotiated that, right?

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>> No, they they have I've gotten the uh ignore button for a little while. So, >> and we have we have no leverage, right? >> No. No. So, I'm going to try my best on that. >> Uh, the fire department uh had 12 calls

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for the month. Uh, members drilled uh on pump operations and driver training as well. Uh, the police department had,1 incidents for the month, 30 motor vehicle accidents, nine arrests, 229 traffic stops, and 120 summones for the

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month. Uh the road department had we had cleanup for the month. Uh they also uh assisted with the water line and the putting the conduit in at the sports fields which was an entire weekend project which they did a phenomenal job

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with. Um the street sweeping's been completed for the month. We had the chipper in as well. Whole lot of other things with the catch basins going on uh repairing those. And then the new junk truck was delivered.

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Uh, anything else you want highlighted? Nothing. All right. >> How did cleanup go overall, Jeff? >> Smooth. >> Smooth. >> A lot of dumpsters or not a lot of dumpsters? >> Not really. A lot of steel scrap stuff like garbage

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>> and that that we get something or at least doesn't cost. >> Yeah. kind of come to wash. We have a dumpster full of tires that probably about what 40 of them. >> Really? >> So that'll be that'll take care of that

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wash. >> But >> better than having to pay both ends. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Did you have to turn anybody away stuff they brought in that was not acceptable? >> Good.

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All good. Very good. Uh for the tax assessor's office, uh we talked before she's still working with Wayne with the the uh for the reval maps. Um the audit for Lens pilot was

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finalized. Uh and the total payments owed to the town this year is $320,69.79. We received the first check already, which was due May 1st for 162,47860. And then there'll be two additionals, one in August and one in November. Uh,

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one for 78,000 and some change and one for 79,000 and some change. >> Scott, going back to the cubes. >> Mhm. >> When do we get any type of money from them? Is it just on COA or is it do they

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>> No, it's Do we get stuff for the the um for affordable housing before that break ground? >> Not not affordable housing, but for the permitting. Um so the the fee uh the issue when the permits are um issued

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>> uh the fee is 2.5% um that is for the affordable so we get it once the uh permits are um issued >> in ballpark what is 2.5%. >> Well it's over a million. >> So that's going to cover the anger and stuff. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> Yeah. That'll definitely cover anger

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then because we we only agreed to like 1.2 two with them and we already have like 300 and some available. So it'll it'll definitely cover it and give us some more. >> Okay. And you said when they're permitted. So when they go to break

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ground. >> Correct. >> So that should be coming in within the next couple months. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> That's the if if their timeline stays. >> If their timeline stays that that the permits will be issued and then that's when we get that money. >> Okay. Good. Good.

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So then we can make hole with Ingramman after that. >> Collect a little bit of interest first. >> Yeah. Uh all right. Skip over to zoning. Uh they had nine zoning applications for the month. Uh two were denied. One was

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this dispensary and the other was a 1200 ft uh garage with a front porch on Silver Hill Road. So I'm assuming it doesn't mean >> John. I told you not to apply. >> Not on uh No. Yeah. On 26 Silver Hill.

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>> Mhm. >> It was. So I'm assuming it doesn't meet the requirements. So it probably has to go to land use board. Um instead total of $225 was collected. $575 for the year so far. Uh 15 zoning complaints for the

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month. Uh, five were initial, eight were reinspections, and two were just the first time inspections on that. >> What about our guy on Creek Road that um is like got his trailer back there built like he's building probably building a house or something. >> Yeah. So, I the last I talked to um he

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originally talked Andrew originally talked to him. He said, "Oh, I'm getting an architect. I'm doing this, that, and this." And it just still sits there. So, I last I talked to him, I told Andrew, it's you got to he's got to be something. That's creek road or mountain road? No, mountain. I was going to say mountain road. That's the one I was

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going to ask about. >> So, the last time I talked to Andrew said, "Look, we can't wait for the you know how long we're waiting for an architect." Sorry, but we did the same thing >> cuz I think they're clearing. I think he's done some clearing >> a little bit. I I I drove by the other day. It was only a little bit. It wasn't

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as much as But those that clearing that he has is almost the same of what he did when he first put the trailer there. It wasn't too much more. >> So, um but He never even got a driveway permit. Correct. >> No, cuz he didn't. Yeah. He just basically popped a trailer in. But so I

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told Andrew, "We're not waiting." Like Andrew was trying to be nice cuz the guy said, "Oh, I'm going to do this, this, and this." But then it was month after month, and it was still living in a trailer. >> Yeah. >> So Andrew, uh, >> and I think he's got like a permanent steps there, too. It's not like

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>> to the trailer. Yeah. So, uh, I already told Andrew he's got to like take off the nice shoes and and do what he's got to do. >> Yeah. >> Um, I already talked about the cubes for me.

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Oh, sewer rates. Um, it's a there's a resolution tonight. Unfortunately, we have to follow the suit of Philsburg or else it's going to deplete our funds for sewer. Um so uh we Philisburg went up uh

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22% this year 5% 2% 2% 2% up until 2030. So we followed suit um and >> direct pass through. >> Yeah. Um in order to uh keep our our

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budget and our numbers the same for our what we use for sewer. And I know that we were looking at the sewer lines and >> Mhm. >> that may actually cuz right now we don't know with infiltration stuff going on,

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right? So the uh Wayne had that on his report that uh he contacted the camera company and he's already starting that process to see what we need to do for the uh for the sewer. Um that was for the sewer capacity and

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connections. has that uh they've begun the sewer investigation and we'll be scheduling the camera contractor. Uh they'll be advertising the locations where we'll be inspecting. The hold up on it though is the county engineer because of the rightaways. That's why we can't get things moving on that.

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>> Have we reached out to our whatever they're called now, Commissioner Kerr? >> Uh no, because this is the first I read that we had a hold up. So we could do that after this meeting. Yeah. >> So, Ann already has a plan for that as well to uh utilize that for funding um

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for for the connection and and trying to get our linings better in the sewer. Um and then the other thing is we're waiting on Kevin to get us something from the judge that says we can utilize the affordable housing, whatever's left to pay for that.

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>> And then if we can do that, we won't have to borrow. We can just utilize that and pay for our sewer upgrades. What kind of nut are we talking about for that? >> Uh Dwayne didn't give us a number yet. >> So it's nothing that like the pilot could cover. >> No. Okay.

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>> And then um >> I have one more for the court too. >> Yeah. We need a uh an executive session tonight to talk about um >> personnel. >> Personnel. >> Is that including the judge? >> Yes. Okay. I'll wait. That was my question.

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>> Okay. That's all I have. >> All right. Thank you, Scott. Anything you'd like to add, John? >> Nope. I'm good on wreck. >> Uh just the wreck board didn't meet and uh up at the new fields um end of the month and restart the uh concession

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stand in the press box. So, uh we got stuff on their way there. Um the uh what else? Um scoreboard should go up. They got to go down 2 ft deeper from the actual was it 12 ft originally? already 10 foot and they gone two more

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feet. >> I guess the engineer they said because of the wind and the possibility that that thing will snap before anything would ever come out, but again we're we're dealing with engineers, so we know how that goes. >> And the install company won't won't do anything unless our engineer signs off on it. It's all CYA.

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>> Yeah. So, uh we're going to figure out a couple ways to get down a little further uh two more feet. Um so, other than that, I mean, we should be ready to go um this fall. Cool. >> Kevin, anything you want to add for land

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use? >> Um, just the the it's on the agenda for tonight that the land use approved with one slight amendment. I did the fourth round housing element and fair share plan. Um, I made a comment to to Jim that it didn't really address why we

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were doing the fourth round. So he added in like a one sentence at the end about taking Shiner out >> um because it was being met by other uh affordable projects. So that's it.

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>> All right. Nelson, anything you'd like to add? Uh I um I signed up to go to the uh Musket Khan Watershed Association business meeting in June 211 just to catch up. I've been a little remiss in some of these things and I so I will use

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that as an opportunity to catch up with some people and see how they're doing with their grants and their various projects. I gave Ben a call also. He's the local right or >> to again to see how because he had his grants kind of taken away and lost his

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grants or had withdraw applications for the dam removal project which is one of the big things that they've been trying to do. So I want to I will be catching up with him on the status of those were they resubmitted were any of them freed up and granted and just kind of find out how how they're making that. Uh so

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that's on the agenda. Other than that, I need to catch up a bit with the historical society uh and their building projects and things. I need to catch up on some of that. But at the moment, uh got some interaction with the watershed, the Musk wershed association and go from

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there. I'll have more to say. >> Every time I talk to Congressman Keane's um people, I I I Michelle, I she's got a Polish last name something Winsky or something. I always stress that that's a project in our town that we'd like to

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see federal funding go to. >> Yeah, that would be a great project. >> And uh they they always have interest, but there again, the money's got to be there for them. >> Doesn't that fall out of the National Scenic? >> I think it might. >> But that did come up previously and it might. >> Yeah.

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>> But like I said, it's going to be federal funds because the last tally I heard was like 53 million or something to remove it. I don't know. It was a big number. Like I said, I always try to put a plug in for him to keep that going.

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You'll see uh Tyler Greenfield, I'm sure, as well at the uh meeting he he attends and from the environmental commission. >> Okay. All right. I don't really have anything to add other than I had one complaint I forwarded to you, Scott, about River Road 565, I think it was.

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>> Mhm. Yeah. Noel sent it to Andrew already. >> Okay. Other than that, my email has been fairly quiet as well as my telephone. All right, moving on. We have a bunch of res Oh well, actually, first we have an

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appointment. Uh, it's with council's blessing, but we have somebody that wants to volunteer on the historic preservation commission, Holly Thomas. Uh, it's going to be a class C, four-year term. >> What's a class C?

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You'd have to ask the commission. Any idea if Noel or not? >> Not really. I >> I know that board is struggling to keep members and meet. So, anybody that's willing to volunteer is all right by me. >> Yeah. >> So, can we make that appointment?

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>> So, move still. >> Melvin second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> All right. Resolutions. Everybody want to take a glance through? There's quite a few, but they all look pretty straightforward. If anybody has any issues with one

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particular one, please say so and we can vote on it separately. If not, we'll try to take them together once everybody takes a look. >> The one authorizing the cancellation of municipal certificate of sale. Is there

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any more context besides that? >> Where the second page? >> Yeah, right in the middle. Authorizing cancellation of Municipal certificate sale that would be uh with tax

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>> carrying we think >> cancellation of usually there's a certificate or something >> right usually if somebody comes up with the money and buys it back they have >> I think someone had it they came back within 5 years someone was within five years I think I read where um they were able to pay it back

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>> yeah usually there's like a reference like do you see the rest of these Mhm. >> Yeah. I never seen her never seen an email. It's uh for

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block 18, lot one uh lot 15. Uh it's for delinquent 2023 property tax uh on block 118 block 15 assessed to Warren Glenn Investing LLC uh at a tax sale held in October of 2024.

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Uh this certificate has been uh fully satisfied. So it was just satisfied. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Right. It was a certificate of sale from uh it was 2024-015, >> but it's been satisfied. >> I'm happy to move them all forward. Mayor.

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>> All right. Second, Still. >> Mr. Lazette? >> Yes. >> Mr. Melvin? >> Yes. >> Mr. Still? >> Yes. >> Mayor SL? >> Yes. All right. We've already had our budget discussion. Uh but we have a resolution to uh

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introduce the municipal budget for our township. So anybody else have any comments we'd like to make about the budget at this time? >> Nothing. >> If not, can we adopt that resolution?

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>> So move still. Second, Melvin. >> Mr. Letti? >> Yes. >> Mr. Melvin? >> Yes. >> Mr. Still? >> Yes. >> Mayor Suck? >> Yes. >> All right. Tonight we have uh looks like two ordinances for first reading 2606 and 2607.

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The first one uh is amending chapter 285 for zoning to recodify definitions revise the R4 performance regulations and amend nonconforming use regulations. And this is the one we had talked about earlier making it easier for residents

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to do things without getting variances. Correct, Scott? Correct. >> All right. And then the second one is uh entitled vehicles and traffic. What's the description on that one? >> Parking on. >> That's Yeah. Parking on Maple Avenue or

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Avenue. So >> Okay. That we talked about that before with some of the residents. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> So the ordinance now reads no parking permitted from Chestnut to New Brunswick Avenue, but Mabel does not intersect with New Brunswick Avenue. So, it's got to be edited, amended, whatever to read

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>> redefined kind of >> chestnut to South Main Street. >> Okay? >> Cuz we can't enforce the no parking in where the where the problems are because there's no ordinance that fits it. >> All right. So, let's move those ordinances forward for second reading at

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next meeting. >> Second. Would you move? >> I'll move it. >> Yep. Second. >> All in favor? I >> All right. We have one ordinance tonight to uh have public hearing on. Ordinance 2605 adopting an amended redevelopment plan

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for the Shimemer School redevelopment area blocks 44 lot one. >> So this is the one we talked about earlier. I don't know if you want to correct >> table it or with the parking spots. >> Yeah. Um,

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>> I I'm pretty confident if you've got an agreement with the developer and it says 80 that you're okay with the 1 point whatever. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I'm doing >> I really don't feel that they're going to >> change you. Not this point anyway. >> No. >> Okay.

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>> So, somebody want to open that up to public hearing? >> So, move. I'll second. All >> in favor? I. >> Anybody have comment on that? Please come forward, sign in, and make comment. Seeing none, uh, I'd like to close that and adopt.

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>> Second, Melvin. >> Mr. Letti? >> Yes. >> Mr. Melvin? >> Yes. >> Mr. Still? >> Yes. >> Mayor SL? >> Yes. Anybody have any old or new business? >> No. >> Seeing none, we have an executive session. We need to deal with some Well,

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actually, we've got some discussion here. Um, the one thing we don't want to go quite to executive session yet. I've had a lot of inquiries uh recently about data centers. Now

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granted, we don't have any real land left that's not approved already for a data center, but my fear is that something could happen and plans could change and this could end up in our lap uh as a variance or a request for a

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variance. Now, I've talked to Scott about it. I've talked to Ben Brookke and I've talked to Wayne and I wanted to probe council uh and see what everybody's thought was on data centers and if anybody had any issues if

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we were to make it a non how do we discuss that Scotty not an allowable use >> right yeah just instead of doing a whole ordinance banning them just add to our ordinance existing to make sure that it's in for like a non-use use uh under

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the >> definition >> definitions. >> Correct. And I believe that's the simplest way to limit our exposure to a potential data center and the easiest. >> Sounds good to me. >> Yep. And the other thing too is uh in

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talking to Wayne and Kevin, we we have two properties that are going to be warehouses. If either of those properties wanted to have a a tenant that was a data center, they would have to go it would have to come back to land use board anyway, >> right? >> As of right now,

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>> if we amend this the way we want to, it wouldn't even make it to land use then, >> right? >> And that's that's what I'd like to see happen. >> So then I'm I'm I'll email them to get that work in the works for next meeting. >> All right. And >> if that's if that's a agreement with

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everybody, >> everybody's in agreement here. the way it seemed. >> Yes. >> Yep. >> And I even talked to Did I talk to Steve about that as well? >> I don't know if I did say something to Steve, but I'm sure he's going to feel the same as the rest of us. And then the

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parking issues on Maple Avenue, which we just discussed. Correct. Correct, Chief? >> Yep. >> All right. We have some motions tonight. Is there anything we need to add? A motion. I thought we discussed something we wanted to add as a motion. >> She already had it on there. Yeah. Was I

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>> There was a resolution she had on her. >> Oh, as a resolution. Okay. So, then we have two motions. One's for the uh approve the raffle application for the fire company super raffle and duck race and the other is to approve an application for

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membership uh Riley E. Tremble. >> I'm moving forward. Mayor, >> thank you. Do we have a second? >> Second still up. All >> in favor? Hi. >> All right. Anybody else have any public

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comments about anything general? If not, we're going to go into an executive session. Um, we're going to stay here. We're going to kick everybody out, I believe. >> All right. All right. So, can I have a motion to go into executive session to discuss personnel

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>> and personel and contractel and uh um action might be taken. >> Okay. >> You don't want to. So moved Melvin >> second still >> in favor >> I >> I >> gentlemen

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>> upcoming uh positions in the township that's going to have to be filled as the municipal court judge. Um, in discussion, uh, mayor and council, uh, are willing to authorize myself, uh, as the business administrator to conduct interviews, um, and go through the

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hiring process and offer, um, a, uh, opportunity for employment to, uh, the best candidate uh, after everything's said and done. Um, the second is for uh, DPW having summer help. um they're going

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to be able to start prior to the uh next um town council meeting. So, mayor and council are going to give myself uh as a business administrator authorization after interviews to uh offer a job to

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two uh individuals uh for uh summer help with the DPW. >> Do you want to take them together or separately? probably separate as a action, right? Because him just speaking to it, we need

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to now vote on it. >> So, I'll move um the first one forward, which is with regard to the municipal judge um search that the council authorizes the business administrator to

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conduct an interview uh in the search process and he is authorized to uh make a hire. um which will then be uh memorialized at the next council meeting. I'll make that motion. >> I'll second it.

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>> All in favor? I >> I >> And then the second one, um the I'll make the motion to authorize the business administrator to uh conduct a job search for

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uh summer help uh employment for the DPW office for up to two individuals. Some of >> favor. >> All right. Did you say all in favor? >> I did. >> Sometimes I can't hear you.

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>> I can. >> I She would say Melvin sometimes and I wouldn't know what I'm like. Did you see me? >> Motion to ajourn. >> Second. Melvin. >> I state your name. >> All right. Oh, I will not be at the next

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month's meeting.