WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=1FEASDu2bxk Part: 1 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:15.839 spots. But what what's in here? And I remember seeing the ren renderings. Remember they were going to put the build out right to Arnold Avenue with like an overhang, you know, on the sidewalk. It specifically says here, uh, 2 00:00:15.839 --> 00:00:33.040 >> is outdoor seating and merchant display are not permitt permitted within the county right away. So, I don't know. You know, the county rightway is usually limited to the road. It usually doesn't include the sidewalk. >> That's the right way, though. 3 00:00:33.040 --> 00:00:49.280 >> The county rightway is actually the road. >> Well, I've litigated that. >> I think we're at 63. >> Okay. Ready to go. >> Let's do that so we can >> get back there. >> I think it pulls drive. >> No, it doesn't. >> What are you trying to do? 4 00:00:49.280 --> 00:01:06.159 >> I would like to show a slide tonight. Do you have the ad? >> It's not going to go through there. Is it a port on your >> Well, let's go in the back and then we'll we'll figure that out. >> All right. Sure. >> There's a >> You have a jack on that side on the side of my thing that plugs in this bad boy. 5 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:22.320 >> There's a HDMI >> in the drawer by John. Isn't there some >> hardware there? [cough] >> All right. [clears throat] Yeah, let's go. >> Adequate notes of the time and place this meeting was given under the provisions of the open public meetings act officially designated newspapers in compliance with the law. Mayor Vitali >> here. >> Councilman Dixon here. 6 00:01:22.320 --> 00:01:38.600 >> Councilwoman Burns. >> Councilman Ramos >> here. >> Councilman Gant >> here. >> Councilwoman Sillison >> here. >> Councilman Cortez >> here. >> Can I get a motion for close session? >> I'll make a motion for close session. >> Second. 7 00:01:40.960 --> 00:01:56.159 >> Where section 8 of the open public meetings act the exclusion from a public meeting of certain circumstances. And whereas this governing body is of the opinion that such circumstances presently exist now therefore be resolved by the mayor council of the burough point of beach county of ocean state New Jersey as follows. Public shall be excluded from discussions concerning the hear and after specified 8 00:01:56.159 --> 00:02:12.160 subject matter. The general nature of the subject matter is as follows. Legal issues open space trust fund committee issues chamber of commerce discussion background checks discussion. It is anticipated that the subject matter discussed may be made public upon it conclusion or final disposition. Councilman, 9 00:02:12.160 --> 00:02:39.920 >> I'm guessing we should add in um legal issues involving county of ocean. >> Okay. >> Okay. At to August. >> Yeah. >> Council Dixon. >> Yes. >> Council Ramos. >> Yes. >> Councilman K. Yes. >> Council Silson. 10 00:02:39.920 --> 00:03:20.560 >> Yes. Council Cortez. >> Yes. >> They need to clarify. >> Yep. I got the little >> instead of something else. So he can still >> I guess [laughter] 11 00:03:20.560 --> 00:21:28.600 >> I know. So close. >> So close. Okay, let me get my phone. Thank you, sir. This one. Hallelujah. You'll see that access. She is. There she is. 12 00:25:22.640 --> 00:31:27.080 I Good morning. >> [snorts] >> So, he's feeling okay. He's a little sore, but he's just about to lay down. Last time I was trying to get Hallelujah. 13 00:32:07.679 --> 00:33:42.279 So I think important That's Yeah, >> me and Scott are here. >> Yeah. Well, we thought it was seven, but guess what? We're not late. 14 00:34:20.480 --> 00:38:08.680 physical therapist. All right. I don't know. email. All right. I can start off the restaurant. >> What's that? >> Yeah. >> He also owns 15 00:38:11.920 --> 00:42:37.800 the train station. >> Oh, yeah. >> [clears throat] >> Hallelujah. Oh dear. Oh dear. Oh dear. I love First of all, given how you feel. 16 00:42:52.960 --> 00:46:25.000 I have been out and about. You're going So this is >> yours. How many? You're not theor You can walk. What the heck? They're saying, "Oh my god, 17 00:47:12.400 --> 00:49:23.800 I'm going to defend our training. Pick your [snorts] One day I'm just feel questions. So is it still a roadway obviously? You pull the same 18 00:49:28.160 --> 00:50:46.480 >> form I just sent to Jason. I also know that you know it was before I'll just ask >> I think I remember just going to 19 00:50:46.480 --> 00:52:24.359 place two rooms. way to obviously certain things that crazy. What are you doing? Is that today? >> I know couple of towns around. 20 00:52:25.280 --> 00:54:46.520 Yeah, >> nobody else here at all. That's good. What's going council wasn't. So they can bring it back. I guess I'm not talking about it. I said I was like, you know, 21 00:55:07.359 --> 00:57:57.680 There's a lot of Oh, some tech. So they're override. Everything However, However, comes in just three weeks. Weeks No, no, that 22 00:57:57.680 --> 00:59:16.599 was >> all these builders. Sure. Sure. Sure. >> How are you? I'm saying Um and then 23 00:59:40.720 --> 01:01:29.440 tell you all the second. >> I got to go down. almost. Looks like in trouble >> Christmas. >> All right, I have to run to real quick. 24 01:01:29.440 --> 01:02:18.200 >> So, we lost John. Where's your >> Is that a new screen? >> It's like Star Wars. >> Uh, we got three. Maybe your cup over here. Thank you. [laughter] >> The stuff coming out from there is 25 01:02:21.280 --> 01:03:08.240 >> the best part is that there's a tiny tomatoes in Mount Pleasant and people. >> Yeah, people are idiots. Sorry, I guess we're waiting. [cough] [clears throat] I don't even know how to >> I don't know where key went, but we 26 01:03:08.240 --> 01:03:30.559 could >> adequate notice of the time and place of this meeting was given under the provisions of the open public meetings act and was posted and sent to the officially designated newspapers. in compliance with the law. Mayor Vitali >> here. >> Councilman Dixon >> here. >> Councilwoman Burns. >> Councilman Ramos >> here. >> Councilman Gant >> here. 27 01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:46.319 >> Councilwoman Silson. >> Council Cortez >> here. >> Please rise for the flag. Remain standing for in the pledge allegiance >> to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, 28 01:03:46.319 --> 01:04:01.440 indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. It is most appropriate that in this country which was founded on the bedrock of religious freedom for all people that we take this opportunity to ask for guidance. First, we give thanks for the freedoms that we share. In particular, we appreciate our freedom of 29 01:04:01.440 --> 01:04:16.720 speech. Second, we ask for guidance in the decisions that we deliberate on this evening. We all do not share the same opinion on each topic to be considered, but we must evaluate the views of others. Therefore, we ask for guidance so that the people of Point Pleasant Beach benefit from our decisions. Third, we ask blessings for those assembled 30 01:04:16.720 --> 01:04:36.400 here this evening as well as all the residents of Point Pleasant Beach. >> All right. Good evening everybody. Uh can I get an approval of minutes for the June 16th council meeting? Make that motion. >> Have a second. 31 01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:53.200 >> Second. >> Councilman Dixon. >> Yes. >> Councilman Ramos. >> Yes. Council Gant >> abstain. >> Council Silson. >> Yes. >> Council Cortez. >> Yes. >> Thank you. And can I get a motion for 32 01:04:53.200 --> 01:05:08.880 the approval of minutes for the July 7th executive session? >> So move. Second. >> I'm sorry. Who made the motion? >> I think Mike. >> Mike. Who second it? >> Thank you. >> Councilman Dixon. >> Yes. 33 01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:24.079 >> Council Ramos. >> Yes. >> Council Gant. >> Yes. Council Silson, >> yes. >> And Council Cortez, >> yes. >> Okay. Thank you. Council Silson, you want to make a motion? >> Yes. 34 01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:40.240 >> Okay, that went fast. Uh, yeah. I'd like to make a motion to have a discussion about the um new policy to mandating background checks from our volunteers. >> I'll second that. >> All in favor? Hi. 35 01:05:40.240 --> 01:05:56.880 >> Okay. So, uh you can start. >> Sure. So, I've gotten um so since our last council meeting, um a notice went out to our volunteers mandating that they get a um background check. And uh since that notice was given to our volunteers. I personally have gotten a 36 01:05:56.880 --> 01:06:13.359 lot of push back from our volunteers and um a lot of constructive feedback from them. I would like to say, of course, I don't speak for the entire governing body, but um from me personally, it was the best intention of the municipality 37 01:06:13.359 --> 01:06:31.359 to require background checks. Um but we also, I would hope, listen to our community, our volunteers, our residents, and consider their input. Personally, I would like to take our mandate for background checks, um, 38 01:06:31.359 --> 01:06:48.880 resend it, um, then take into their consideration, their I'm sorry, their constructive criticisms, their feedbacks, and roll it back out in January along with an um, an improved volunteer manual that they are required 39 01:06:48.880 --> 01:07:05.359 to sign. Now, I think that would just be a much better roll out. The idea would be to slow it down, to speed it up, and I would love to hear back from the public and from our our fellow my fellow governing body. >> Before we open it up to the public, do 40 01:07:05.359 --> 01:07:20.319 any of the members of council have any comments? >> I mean, I can give you some specific feedback from from volunteers. Would that be helpful? >> Sure. Let's hear what they're saying. >> Sure. Um, one person, let's see, their 41 01:07:20.319 --> 01:07:36.720 concerns about privacy and data security. The volunteers were asked to provide highly sensitive personal information. I'm sorry. Of course, I got a phone call, right? Anyway, highly personal information, their social security numbers before there was any [clears throat] public explanation of 42 01:07:36.720 --> 01:07:51.839 how that would of um how that information would be collected. Um, there's also been questions about how long that information is stored for. There's questions about confidentiality. Um, and there's questions for the need for it. Um, I was told, although maybe 43 01:07:51.839 --> 01:08:08.799 I'm incorrect, that there is a a deadline that was required. No, our B administrator saying no. But if they're not going to comply with it, like are we going to remove our volunteers? It was it's it's my impression that we're 44 01:08:08.799 --> 01:08:24.799 trying to solicit more volunteers, not deter them from volunteering. And it would be great if we could reroll it out with a a poster of a flowchart that says, "Here's the information we need. This is why we need it. This is how it's 45 01:08:24.799 --> 01:08:43.440 going to be stored and what we're going to do with that." rather than just the the letter that was sent out that's having everybody not everybody but a lot of people concerned about it and unwilling to participate. >> Anybody have any comments? 46 01:08:43.440 --> 01:09:00.560 >> Yep. So obviously the whole purpose of a background is to protect our children, right? Because a lot of people a lot of volunteers most of the volunteer groups do work with children. Sadly, we live in a society now in the United States where you read in the paper and things go 47 01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:17.199 south. Um, so that's the primary focus on that. I don't think the background is asking for financials. I I think uh correct me if I'm wrong, Joe. I think we cleaned it up quite a bit. It's asking for very basic things. Unfortunately, 48 01:09:17.199 --> 01:09:35.759 our town has also been involved with numerous people who have been in that financial uh situation and things have gone south with that as well. So, that's the uh the background for the uh 49 01:09:35.759 --> 01:09:51.279 >> rationale for it. >> No, for the uh it's not a back you're not getting a background uh >> the police department is not doing the background check on you >> because that's illegal, right? Yeah. They can't. >> They're just looking for a crim uh well, not a criminal history. >> Help me out here. 50 01:09:51.279 --> 01:10:08.000 >> So, the background checks are checking for um they're checking what's called an NCIC database. It's to check to see if you have been arrested uh for a criminal offense. It doesn't check for disorderly person offense. It only has to be a conviction of a crime. It also checks 51 01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:24.719 the sexual um sexual offender registry to see if you are have ever been convicted and [clears throat and cough] you're a men's law uh sex offense violator. And it um it will check essentially the the residents where you 52 01:10:24.719 --> 01:10:40.960 live. They will contact the local police smart which majority will be contacting the chief sitting next to me in my life. >> Yes. So they're not checking if you got a DUI. They're not checking if you got a divorce. They're not checking your financials. It's just checking your criminal history 53 01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:55.920 uh to make sure you've never been charged with a crime. But the most important thing is is what we're protecting our children. You're protecting your grandchildren. High school kids work with arts committee. They work with uh different committees. Recreation 54 01:10:55.920 --> 01:11:12.239 works with with the kids all the time. So, and our attorney has advised, we have a legal attorney as well, um, that advised that we should have a policy in place right away. So, >> well, nobody's arguing about the rationale for it from what I've all the 55 01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:27.360 feedback I've gotten, everybody understands the need for it. The way it's been rolled out, there's been a lot of questions that have gone unanswered and it's not a a clear streamline policy. So even if individual questions have been answered up until this point, 56 01:11:27.360 --> 01:11:42.560 as we get future volunteers, we don't have a clear process for them to have their questions already answered. And right now it's confusing. It's a little bit a sloppy roll out. We can definitely refine it and improve it and take into 57 01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:57.679 consideration their feedback, re-roll it out in January. I think our volunteers would really be appreciative of that from everything I've heard. I think for for the the issue that to my understanding is that we have a legal 58 01:11:57.679 --> 01:12:15.440 issue that has been solidified and verified by by our attorney, not you, by by our other attorney. Um, and the the town is greatly exposed right now because we're not doing background checks on a lot of these positions. So 59 01:12:15.440 --> 01:12:32.000 while I appreciate that there there'll be concerns and you know listen I I I have had to fill out background checks when I served on the board of ed I had to do a full I don't even deal directly with the children but I had to do a full background check be fingerprinted and everything comes with the territory. Um, my company does background checks on all 60 01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:47.679 of our employees, whether you're a housekeeper or whether you're the general manager. Background check is done and they look at financial, they look at everything. Um, because they're dealing with money and you want to see make sure that you don't you don't have a thief uh that you're you're hiring. Um, but but the the main concern I have 61 01:12:47.679 --> 01:13:05.040 right now is that this this town is severely exposed right now legally from a legal standpoint and it's identified. So, this is something we need to correct. And I think that regardless of anytime you type you roll out something new, there's going to be people that are 62 01:13:05.040 --> 01:13:20.880 against it. There's going to be people that have concerns about it. And I think you you handle those concerns and you you deal with those individuals on case by case basis. I mean, you know, we could still send out something to explain what's going on and what we're doing. We're talking about it tonight in the public. And you know, Councilwoman 63 01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:36.320 Stillison, I give you full credit. You wanted to originally talk about something about this in close [clears throat] session. they decided, "No, I want to do it in the public," which is great >> because that's how that's how the information gets out to the public and the public understands what's trying to be done. So, I I think that, you know, I 64 01:13:36.320 --> 01:13:52.320 I'm I'm not a big fan of throwing the baby out with the bath water. I think that, you know, we started to roll it out. I think we can continue to clarify it for people. I think we can we can continue to build on it and and add things to cl help clarify it. But I think waiting until January, that's five 65 01:13:52.320 --> 01:14:08.719 months away and you're you're exposing the town to significant issues should something happen, God forbid. >> Well, I think one of the [clears throat] takeaways I just heard was it comes with the territory. I'm a teacher. I'm fully background checked and vetted and whatever because I'm expected that I 66 01:14:08.719 --> 01:14:24.880 work with children. If you're planting flowers in our town because you want to help our town, norm a reasonable person wouldn't expect that they would have to give their social security number and have a lot of their personal information given to our 67 01:14:24.880 --> 01:14:41.679 burrow, you know, a burrow um what do you call the municipality when they want to just, you know, do something simple like that where they're not working with money, they're not working with children, that's where the overreach starts to come in. [clears throat] And especially when we can't really speak to how this 68 01:14:41.679 --> 01:14:57.440 information is going to be protected, for how long? Um, that's where concerns raised just for people wanting to help out for free in our town. >> And I get that, right? And um, how do we know that person is not an axe murderer? Um, that is planting flowers, right? We 69 01:14:57.440 --> 01:15:13.440 don't. >> Well, what if they are? I mean, this is >> Well, then we could then we could [laughter] remove them from our >> Don't let them chop down any trees, >> right? Don't put an axe in their hand. Um I could talk about the privacy and the security obviously um that's my background and I go through uh extensive 70 01:15:13.440 --> 01:15:30.320 background checks every year from homeland security. So uh we upgraded to a.gov uh domain which means that our internal domain here our networks our computers are very secure. Um we have a professional company that does uh help secure that. Um I can tell you right now 71 01:15:30.320 --> 01:15:46.080 everybody's social security number is out on the internet right now. Right? you go to the doctor, dentist, [music] you're filling out your social security number, that that stuff's out there on the dark web. So, um not that it's right, but it it's out there. Um when Joe, and correct me if I'm wrong, when you get the reports back, it's in a 72 01:15:46.080 --> 01:16:02.560 password protected uh statement that only Joe and maybe Patty has the uh the password, too. So, it's not like if somebody hacks that information, um everybody can open up uh the information. And the information is very limited. Yes, they're clean. No, they're 73 01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:19.120 not. And here's a little blurb of of why they're not. Um, so I could go on the record and say I'm confident that the information is being protected, but I understand that there are other concerns. And one of the best concerns that I heard is, uh, are we as a governing body background checked and we're not, and maybe that's something 74 01:16:19.120 --> 01:16:35.120 that we need to figure out going forward. So, but I'm open to hearing uh, some of the other concerns and and I get the the initial form was a little muddy and stuff like that, and I know Joe did a really good job in refining that. Um, but again to Mike and Bothar's point, 75 01:16:35.120 --> 01:16:51.600 we're now opening ourselves up to liability. God forbid we do have an incident. Um, and we knew that we should be doing background checks. >> But mayor, this is just a conversation. This isn't a process. This is not codified. This can change at any given minute. That's the problem here that 76 01:16:51.600 --> 01:17:08.159 we're that we're talking about. It's it's kind of arbitrary. It's like, well, we have a new program now. You can give us your word. This is like willy-nilly when it comes to the stuff that really should have been discussed [clears throat] prior and then present it to the public already considering their concerns. That's what I'm saying. 77 01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:24.480 Let's take it back and have a much better roll out where all these things can be um codified if need be. >> I I understand what you're saying, but I think the the original reason why we rolled it out the way we did is because we got legal advice that we needed to 78 01:17:24.480 --> 01:17:41.040 protect ourselves. No, that's not accurate. And then when everybody started complaining >> about what was on the e form, I did contact Joe and I said, "Hey, we got to remove certain things and let's try to keep it as basic as possible to help our 79 01:17:41.040 --> 01:17:57.920 volunteers out." And that's what Joe did. >> No, the legal advice came after the push back from the volunteers. >> That initially came from our labor attorney when we were working >> that guys. I just want to It was from your risk managers. >> The risk managers, right? That's where this really emanated from when we were 80 01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:13.040 working on a bunch of >> front of them as attorneys. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> So that's where it initially came from, right? >> And that's when we said, "Okay, let's put something in place." >> Okay. >> And I think one other thing that I heard tonight, I think, [clears throat] just to clarify, I don't think there's a 81 01:18:13.040 --> 01:18:29.679 single volunteer committee that doesn't in somehow work with kids or kids get involved. >> Um, okay. The recreation committee definitely. Um, you know, look, I was on the environmental commission. I was on the uh uh shade tree commission and we involve high school students. High 82 01:18:29.679 --> 01:18:46.080 school students come to the meetings, they become now they're actually members of the committee. >> Um you know beautifification I don't I mean maybe people bring their kids to help plant. I don't know. I mean but you know kids are part of our community here and you know we are a family community and I think that you know that's something to to to be considered. 83 01:18:46.080 --> 01:19:02.719 >> Well by that logic should we background check every resident? I mean every resident can come into contact with a child. Like where does it stop? That's what I'm saying. >> The residents that volunteer, yes, we are doing that. But residents that are free and walking around in town, no, this is not the, you know, 84 01:19:02.719 --> 01:19:18.239 >> the gestapo here. >> John or Andy, do you guys have any comments before? >> I just guess we've been pretty lucky over the years. Barry and >> had Wendy is, you know, roll the dice. That's the thing. We, you know, 85 01:19:18.239 --> 01:19:34.960 especially it's got to be with kids. Um, I was a soccer ref and a coach and I had to fill out state forms, you know, NJSIAA rep, you know, around high school kids and everything. Background check, you know, extensive. Um, that's my 86 01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:50.960 biggest priority. But then you do look at criminal um, some committees handle money. Um, you know, you don't want an assault. You know, I don't know if that come would come up, chief, if it was or >> it's an aggravated assault. Anything 87 01:19:50.960 --> 01:20:06.640 criminal? >> Criminal. >> So, there are aggravated assaults that are >> uh >> Yeah, it it's important. >> Can we hear from the public? >> I think John the only thing where the big problem is is that we have a lot of committees 88 01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:21.520 and many of them are are people who lived in town for a long time, have been doing things here for a real long time and they're like, "Listen, I've been doing this for 15 years. I've been doing this for 20 years. I'm not bothering any kids. Why am I have to do this enough? And I understand that. But the problem 89 01:20:21.520 --> 01:20:38.239 is it's times have changed. Everybody wants to sue everything everybody for everything nowadays. So there's and everyone has cell phones. It is like the days ago where you used to meet someone and you have to ask for their phone number. Now people taking pictures of each other, sending each other their 90 01:20:38.239 --> 01:20:53.760 phone numbers. If you get somebody who goes on to one of these committees who happens to be have a problem and they get a hold of a kid or even a fellow work person that that they're with could be an adult that they're dealing with and they ask for their phone and they start sending inappropriate pictures to 91 01:20:53.760 --> 01:21:11.199 each other and then we find out oh this guy who's been doing this for 20 years and we just put him on one of these committees. If we knew about it we could have stopped it before it happened. And then what's going to happen is the person that was affected by it is going to say, "Well, how come you guys didn't do background checks on it?" And being 92 01:21:11.199 --> 01:21:28.239 that we got that letter from our uh labor attorney who basically in plain English says we're crazy for not having some type of background checks on our volunteers. I mean, luckily, not good. We've been good that way. But you want a couple million dollar lawsuit against the town? 93 01:21:28.239 --> 01:21:44.000 I don't, you know, and I'm sure the rest of us don't. You just got your tax bill. we want to add some more money to it, get two or three lawsuits for a situation like that. So I understand the point of you know the people who are involved with situation straight tree who really don't deal that often with 94 01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:59.760 children or even but it's not always about children. It's about your fellow workers >> and uh the times have changed. You have to get checked. If you don't want to get checked, then I'm, you know, thank you for your volunteerism. But, and if some 95 01:21:59.760 --> 01:22:15.120 of these committees go by the wayside because they refuse to do it, I'd be sad to see them go, but they that's what they decide. That's what they decide. I mean, we're we're put the tough spot. I mean, I would love to say, "Yeah, let's hold off." But then I I don't want to 96 01:22:15.120 --> 01:22:31.840 hear a month from know yeah we held off but so and so just complained that they were attacked or followed by one of the volunteers they've been working with and we were warned about it. We're on notice that we should do this. If we don't do this you're crazy. That's what our Lori told us. >> Yeah. But right now it's like we just 97 01:22:31.840 --> 01:22:47.600 have this willy-nilly system like that's what I was saying earlier. We can get we can have a discussion. We can get assurances, whatnot, but it's not a a codified process and that's not really addressing any of the volunteers concerns. >> Well, well, let's hear from 98 01:22:47.600 --> 01:23:03.600 >> we can modify it as we as we >> but we haven't deeper into the thing. Well, Joe was modif as as we're going, but not as an official process that can also be changed in different directions unless it's a legitimate process. >> Can we hear from the public now? 99 01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:26.800 >> Sure. I Erica >> [clears throat] >> Erica Cesco, 701 Richmond Avenue. So, just so I can start, so the keyboard warriors out there in the world, I have nothing to hide. You can run anything you want on me. I'm not a criminal. I'm not a sex offender. This has nothing to do with what is actually going to be 100 01:23:26.800 --> 01:23:44.400 found. Um, but one, I agree, the way it was rolled out, getting a letter in the mail saying, "Do this or you're going to get kicked off the committee." and thanks for your sympathy, but a lot of us have put a lot of hours in and just be kicked off because there's no actual process and it's arbitrary and there's no deadline. Thanks. Like really 101 01:23:44.400 --> 01:23:59.840 appreciate that that that >> sentiment there. Sarcasm, right, Erica? Sarcasm. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's sarcasm right there. That's really rude. Um, two, as you said, there's no real process. How often do you do this? I you may run a criminal check on me today and run the sex 102 01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:16.560 offender list today and tomorrow I may do something wrong. Are you doing this monthly, yearly? Is it and how much does it cost? Because I believe a lot of people ran up here and got on here to save the town money and I know I just got hit with a $4,500 tax increase. So 103 01:24:16.560 --> 01:24:32.960 I'd like to save some money in town, too. So how how much does this cost? I agree with the sex offender part of it for sure, but that's free. like you can do an online search to see if there's any sex offenders in this area and get that for free. My other issue is that 104 01:24:32.960 --> 01:24:48.719 the amended form, and sorry, I just got new glasses today, so I'm still trying to figure out how to work them. [clears throat] But this form still says, this is the one I got on the 17th saying it was a new form that they're doing. Um, it's not limited to verification of, 105 01:24:48.719 --> 01:25:03.520 let's see, criminal history, local, state, federal, international, and other law enforcement, sexual offenders, lists, wants, warrants, records, motor vehicle records, military records, educational verifications, license verifications, credit history, civil 106 01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:20.320 cases, OIG, GSA, I I don't actually know what that one stands for, OFAC, and Patriot sanctions list, drug testing. So once I sign this form, you are not limited to my c running just my criminal record and my sex offender list. Once I 107 01:25:20.320 --> 01:25:37.280 sign this form, this company who is from the research that I've done and others have done and shared with me is typically doing like probationary drug tests, not this kind of work. But once they get this form, they have the authority to run any of this information 108 01:25:37.280 --> 01:25:54.560 on me at any time. And that's where I really feel uncomfortable because I understand you're saying this is what you're running and I'm not trying to say that I don't trust you, >> but in this town unfortunately we've had a history of oper requests up the wazoo and people sharing things on social 109 01:25:54.560 --> 01:26:11.199 media that are personal in people's records of fines and permit issues and things like that and one wrong leak and some poor person like gets all their information out there that shouldn't be out there. And and that really concerns me. Again, I I mean, frankly, the 110 01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:27.659 recreation background checks, everybody that is one-on-one with children, like our skateboarding camp, not one, not one volunteer goes to skate skateboarding camp. We hire a coach, they get background checked. >> We have um the uh well, now the 111 01:26:27.659 --> 01:26:42.480 [clears throat] summer camp's run by the town, all of the counselors, all of the the directors, they get background checked. We have uh the football camp is run and they get a background check. It's by a coach. There's no volunteers there. The only time the recreation committee has anything to do with 112 01:26:42.480 --> 01:26:58.239 children, parents are required to be there. It says it on the registration. We are not responsible for any children at all. Yes, we are in the room, but I can go to the park right now and be around 20 kids. I don't see the difference in that. I understand the 113 01:26:58.239 --> 01:27:13.600 liability of it, but one, the threatening roll out. Here we go again. Let's threaten the committees with getting kicked off if you don't do something ASAP, >> right? >> To the money. How often do we have to do this? Because it doesn't count if you're only doing it once and done. I've been 114 01:27:13.600 --> 01:27:28.080 working for Wells Fargo in regulatory state for 25 years. They background check me 25 years ago. They've never background checked me again. [clears throat] So, is it really a >> And I'll stop you. It's three years, right? Three year. Do you know the 115 01:27:28.080 --> 01:27:45.040 approximate cost per check? $49. Okay. >> Okay. So, $50. So, if I do the quick math, that's $1,500 just for the recreation committee every three years as it stands right now. That means, you know, adds additional costs 116 01:27:45.040 --> 01:28:01.520 for the 15 other committees. Does that include our volunteers for the fire department? Does first aid? Does it include chamber? The chamber of commerce holds events where their kids are attending. Do we now reach out to the chamber? Who pays 117 01:28:01.520 --> 01:28:17.040 for that? Like kind of to your point, like where do we draw the line in that type of information? >> There's a lot of unanswered questions or >> that's my problem. Again, I will state just for those keyboard warriors. I have no problem letting you guys run anything 118 01:28:17.040 --> 01:28:33.520 you want. You can run this whole list on me and you won't find anything. I promise you I don't have a problem with it. I have a problem with it rolled out. [clears throat] I have a problem this there's no parameters and I have a problem that a company that isn't used to doing this information is going to have the the authorization once I sign this form to do all of that other stuff 119 01:28:33.520 --> 01:28:48.960 for me >> and I don't trust this town when they keep trying to just they don't like Suzie Q so then they just open request stuff and dig in and then post everything on social media and try to destroy people. >> So those are my concerns for it. >> Thank you Erica. 120 01:28:48.960 --> 01:29:17.520 >> Anybody else? Dave Good evening, Dave Kevin, 118 Parkway. Uh, my first question is I think it's great that you're talking about it tonight, but then why was it in close session last month? >> If you can talk about it here now, why 121 01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:33.199 did you have to hide behind closed doors to do it last month? Well, there were some legal things that we talked about that we couldn't [clears throat] do in the public. So, now we're just doing a discussion on the actual process itself, but okay. >> Before there were legal issues. >> Okay. 122 01:29:33.199 --> 01:29:48.239 >> My next question is whatever you decided in close session, you authorized the administrator to move forward, but when you came out of close session, you didn't vote. So, how is it legal to vote behind 123 01:29:48.239 --> 01:30:05.440 closed doors and authorize something and not even tell the public, let alone vote in public? >> Mr. Con, >> any of you know first before we look at the attorney as a bailout. I'm sorry. >> Well, no, I want Mike to answer this because it's a legal question. >> I don't think that a resolution was 124 01:30:05.440 --> 01:30:21.120 required for this particular instance. The administrator was already intending to proceed along the current track. We had a discussion on the legal implications and the administrator continued to do his job as administrator 125 01:30:21.120 --> 01:30:37.199 uh and benefited from getting you know conferring with the governing body but no formal action was required. I will tell you that if we proceed along the path which we've talked about which is um having kind of set a set policy handbook for volunteers that would be 126 01:30:37.199 --> 01:30:52.320 adopted by resolution of the governing body that that would warrant formal action and will be taken in public. But this itself, >> just so I understand, because somebody said you should do it and the administrator was probably going to do it, there was no reason for you after you discussed it in the back room to 127 01:30:52.320 --> 01:31:08.639 even tell the public you were doing it, let alone voting on it. >> I I mean, I think that's discretionary. I think I don't I don't see any legal issue if that's what you're trying to raise, Mr. But um you know, we're here talking about it in public and I'm happy to answer any questions. 128 01:31:08.639 --> 01:31:27.199 >> I guess I'll wait for a higher source then. >> Sorry. Uh, >> how did you select the company, >> Joe? That's the company we've been using for other checks, right? >> They the company they do risk management for the town and they offer background services as well. That's we already have 129 01:31:27.199 --> 01:31:44.639 a contract. >> So, we've been using them. >> We have. >> Okay. And with all due respect, you're concerned about the background of a volunteer. You people are responsible for the 130 01:31:44.639 --> 01:32:02.480 welfare of about 4,500 people, children, women, and men. You deal with the $20 million budget. You deal with the police, with fire, with code, with rescue. None of you have velcr checked. When 131 01:32:02.480 --> 01:32:17.920 somebody says, "Oh, what if we find out somebody was an axe murderer? What if we find out somebody was a thief?" No offense. What if any of you are? Nobody knows. So, when you budget something or you do business with a company, there's no 132 01:32:17.920 --> 01:32:33.679 background checks on you. There's no check. There's no security. and your board's planning and uh board of adjustment, they have a financial disclosure they fill out. That's it. 133 01:32:33.679 --> 01:32:50.639 >> They deal with a master plan of the town and you don't care. But you care about the people who plant flowers, plant trees, help the seniors or worry about the environment of the town. >> So I understand what you want to do, but you did it behind closed doors. You 134 01:32:50.639 --> 01:33:07.760 didn't tell anybody. And as Professco pointed out, this form says, in addition to whatever is listed below, not limited to. So no matter what you say is only going to be included, this says they can do whatever they want 135 01:33:07.760 --> 01:33:24.800 because once I put my name to it, I've given them the authority. >> Dave, can you read a little bit more of that? You just read like a few words of it. will seek and obtain consumer reports, legisl investigative reports about me as defined in the fair credit reporting. These investigative reports 136 01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:40.480 may include whatever is applicable but not limited to the verification of social security numbers, names and dates of previous current employment, work experience, professional personal references, criminal history, >> but not limited to >> not limited to >> not limited. 137 01:33:40.480 --> 01:33:56.239 >> So when you say it's only going to be, that's not what this says. Mhm. >> So when you say we can change it, we can fix it, you haven't done that. >> That's correct. >> And when you made your decision, you did it in hiding. You didn't even tell the people you did it, let alone vote on it. >> It's embarrassing. 138 01:33:56.239 --> 01:34:12.480 >> Now, I appreciate there might be some legal excuses of why you didn't. But for people who talk about openness and transparency, this is the antithesis. This is backroom politics at its worst. 139 01:34:12.480 --> 01:34:33.040 Uh, we already said you people don't fill out the form. And >> sorry, the brain just went dead. >> Dave, what do you think about my idea to to resend it for now and revise it? Do you do you see the need for background 140 01:34:33.040 --> 01:34:49.840 checks? >> I don't think everybody should have a background check. And if you think that there are dangerous people out there on your beautifification committee or your senior committee or your environmental committee, then look in the mirror first and you do 141 01:34:49.840 --> 01:35:06.080 it. And whatever form you're going to generate, let the public see it first. If you're going to put out a handbook of committees of how they should function, let the public have input into it. the people who are on the committees. You're 142 01:35:06.080 --> 01:35:20.000 doing all this behind closed doors. You're doing all this in secret. You roll it out and then you say, "Oh, gee, why are people upset, >> you say you want to be open and transparent, and you're doing exactly the opposite." So, I wholeheartedly agree. I think it's an excellent 143 01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:37.440 suggestion. Stop it now. Roll it back and put out something with input from the people and recommendations from the people. >> And David, for your beautifification committee, have you heard from other people? I mean, I know you can't speak for them. I'm just >> Yes, >> you can give us an 144 01:35:37.440 --> 01:35:54.960 >> on the senior committee for the moment and >> they voted not. >> Well, again, it's my interpretation of the English language, but it says A, if you don't sign, you're off the committee. B, 145 01:35:54.960 --> 01:36:11.760 you can't participate in any activities. >> So, >> but it doesn't give you a deadline for when you need to do the background check. I'm sorry. doesn't give you a deadline for when you would need to complete the background check. Right. >> But even though I choose to stall, I tend to think sooner or later God's 146 01:36:11.760 --> 01:36:28.480 going to come knocking at my door. >> So when you say I can't participate in activities, if the senior committee has a bingo game, I can't go. It's an activity >> because I don't want to turn over my social security number and other personal information. I can't even help 147 01:36:28.480 --> 01:36:43.760 the committee with things, let alone participate in things that they do. All because you want a full background check on me. No offense, not on yourselves, >> not on any of your other boards or committees. So, I totally agree. Stop it. 148 01:36:43.760 --> 01:37:01.360 >> Go back, get input from the people, come up with a form of your own that's very specific. Don't rely on some other company that points out something generic like this with this little caveat that oh we can go wild if we choose and unless somebody looks at the fine print. The senior committee voted not to sign 149 01:37:01.360 --> 01:37:17.840 until there is this discussion right now based on this discussion. I'm still not comfortable signing this form >> wherever that goes down the road. So >> they voted they took a vote for that. >> I'm sorry. They the senior committee voted. >> Yes, >> they voted that. 150 01:37:17.840 --> 01:37:31.920 >> Okay. >> And the next meeting we'll discuss it again. And no offense, I can guarantee you one big mouth is going to say don't sign. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. [clears throat] 151 01:37:31.920 --> 01:37:49.199 >> Anybody else? Okay. Hearing none, um I guess we'll take a look at the language and the the fine print and see if there's anything we could do to fine-tune that. But not good enough. No, we need to act on this. Uh I'd like to make a motion to resend 152 01:37:49.199 --> 01:38:05.679 the need for background checks and then have a new roll out in um January. >> Do I have putting a lot of uh that's putting a lot of risk on the council, but it do we have a second? >> Okay, the motion fails. 153 01:38:05.679 --> 01:38:22.719 >> Sorry volunteers. So I think there is some work to do and Joe >> I I just want to point out the so I think that [clears throat] the two comments from Erica Mr. Cavano um we're talking about this form 154 01:38:22.719 --> 01:38:38.400 so that language Erica that you wrote that you read out that was on the first that's their universal form we had all that language removed and you should have got a a redacted a new form >> I was the email I had That's the form. So, 155 01:38:38.400 --> 01:38:54.639 >> it might have just been an error on the person. >> Okay. Cuz the the drug tests, the >> Here, I have the first form, too. Hold on. >> Uh, motor vehicle, >> that's not there anymore. military records, education, verificate, 156 01:38:54.639 --> 01:39:10.159 all that added language has all been removed for on this new form for the add of the comments we received from the public that the mayor and council got got filtered down to me, [cough] >> contacted [clears throat] the uh 157 01:39:10.159 --> 01:39:27.520 >> and was able to um get that all removed and have [clears throat] it more geared towards what Point Pleasant Beach was looking for. So, all that language has been removed. Um, and I will send you the the new copy. I'll give you this copy right here. 158 01:39:27.520 --> 01:39:42.000 >> I can get it out. >> If you can send it to me, then I can get it out. >> Not a problem. It should have been done. And I apologize that uh we resent the the first one again. Dave, >> just one question. I thought I 159 01:39:42.000 --> 01:40:00.639 had the second one. Is that correct or not? >> Can we look at the bottom of that language, Joe? >> And correct that. may include ever but are not limited to verification of >> Yeah. So I took this is so you want so you'll be comfortable if that language 160 01:40:00.639 --> 01:40:15.920 is removed. >> Yeah because >> okay if that language was removed is that alleviate the major concern. >> See that's what I'm talking about. This is willy-nilly. We're so figuring it out as we go. I think it's not a good role. 161 01:40:15.920 --> 01:40:31.920 >> Well that's the purpose of the discussion for open discussion. right >> talking to the community right now and trying to get the input so it can get fixed. >> I understand what you're saying but >> legally we should not say let's just get rid of the whole thing. That's that's insanity. >> And Joe, before we remove it, let's just run through with the risk managers and 162 01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:48.159 labor attorney and make sure we could get rid of it instead of just relying on public input. I just want to make sure that we're still covered if we get rid of that, which I'm sure we are because it seems like it's a lot of unnecessary checks. >> Yeah. this. So, when I worked with Tri-State, 163 01:40:48.159 --> 01:41:04.159 I asked them to remove all the all the added ones that Erica pointed out. >> So, I'm sure that was somehow he just took all that out and left what I was checking for. >> Okay. >> He didn't remove the language of not letting that. 164 01:41:04.159 --> 01:41:20.800 >> So, that's that's why it's probably still there. >> Um, >> but it's still there. It's still there. We're not but it doesn't say that we're check it's only saying what we're checking the three things but I'll I'll have it removed that that makes people feel more comfortable if it can be >> June you want to say some I'm sorry on this 165 01:41:20.800 --> 01:41:43.360 >> no [laughter] June Cutho 302 foreman um I agree with the background checks [clears throat] certainly we want to protect the children certainly we want to get things in order what I disagree with is what's happening Now, after we're 3/4 of the way through what's an 166 01:41:43.360 --> 01:41:59.280 attempted implementation of this process, now we're fine-tuning it. Can we at least get some sort of agreement that when you're going to roll out something in the future as it affects the volunteers that you at least plan it differently, get the volunteer 167 01:41:59.280 --> 01:42:15.199 chairman chairpeople together, have a discussion with them so that they can give you their input and then that input can come back and fine-tune the process instead of doing it the way this was done. Obviously, you're going to do this the way it's been done and you're going 168 01:42:15.199 --> 01:42:30.639 to make the few adjustments, but this is the wrong time for this conversation. Most certainly what Erica brought up and I was at the recck meeting when we talked about it. I was certainly at the senior meeting when the senior people said, "You want my social security number?" They've gone through a number 169 01:42:30.639 --> 01:42:45.760 of presentations from you, Doug, saying, "Don't give anybody." But now all of a sudden, so so there's hyper sensitivity, especially in the senior community. They don't object to protecting the children and they and I certainly don't object to 170 01:42:45.760 --> 01:43:02.480 background checks. I object to this after the fact, throwing something out there that isn't even written down except in a letter. I don't know. What are you going to do with these forms after you've done the background check? Are you going to throw them away? You going to shred them? Are you going to 171 01:43:02.480 --> 01:43:17.040 burn them? Are you going to keep them in a file folder? Who's going to have access to them? Um, >> that's right. There's just no document flowchart. >> There's just no documented processed and and why we want to fly without a process 172 01:43:17.040 --> 01:43:31.920 that somebody get. So if >> I hope you're here a hundred years, but if you're not, how's somebody going to go back and look at what to do the next time? Nothing's written down anywhere. How do you operate that way? Why do you want to? So, can I at least request that 173 01:43:31.920 --> 01:43:48.880 when you're going to change something as it affects 150 people in the volunteer organization, let's have a better way of doing that in the future. That's my request because this is really sloppy. >> Thank you. Oh, and if a volunteer fills 174 01:43:48.880 --> 01:44:05.520 out the form and chooses to leave out their social security number, is that a complete submission? >> It's not. >> It's not. So you >> they need they need the social security number for the >> trying to think of if the seniors had anything else. >> Oh, and we already discussed how we 175 01:44:05.520 --> 01:44:22.719 picked the vendor. They do work for us already. >> Correct. >> So they added this cuz they don't even advertise it on their website. Background checks. >> It's a risk management company. >> Yeah, they're a risk management company. They've been working with us for a few years doing helping us with DPW, making sure uh we're more compliant. And that's 176 01:44:22.719 --> 01:44:37.679 another service that they provide. This is quite a good price because having done background checks for other organizations that I'm on the executive board for, um, this is very inexpensive compared to prices that we got at county 177 01:44:37.679 --> 01:44:58.400 levels and other levels. So, okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. Anybody else? EJ >> EJ Garger, 115 Arnold Avenue. I keep forgetting I don't have to lean close to this anymore. Um, I definitely agree with the background checks. I've been background checked multiple times being in the medical field, working in the 178 01:44:58.400 --> 01:45:15.040 hospital. Um, and I agree with the change. I like the change taking out the not limited to. I think that's a great change. Um, I like the fact that we're not going to push it back till January. I think that would have been too far out. I would have said a month could have been enough 179 01:45:15.040 --> 01:45:32.239 time to get it straightened out um to keep the town's liability down. What I would like to ask um and I think that would make a lot of people happy um is what everybody was just saying. You know, we're asking all the volunteers to get it done. I put forward that 180 01:45:32.239 --> 01:45:48.080 everybody up on the deis should step forward and say we're going to do it also. I think that'll make a big difference to people. Thank you. >> Could we could we do that? Could we have a roll out in you know by like the October meeting and include the governing body in those background 181 01:45:48.080 --> 01:46:04.000 checks? Well, the background check is not going to go to the entire town. It's going to go to one person just like somebody else's stuff is not going to go to the entire council. It's going to go to one person. >> But requiring it from everybody. >> Mike, is there a legal >> This isn't politically ideal, but just to be clear, the people elect the 182 01:46:04.000 --> 01:46:20.480 governing body. The governing body does not have an ability to police [clears throat] the qualifications of its own members. There's actually a I saw the state AG is suing to get a council member who was just convicted of a federal crime. is in federal moved [clears throat] because you actually need a court order to do so. So, um the 183 01:46:20.480 --> 01:46:34.320 governing body does not have the ability to address its own membership, >> but we could certainly submit a background check. >> I guess if you guys and then if there's something >> if there's something found then we have >> can't adopt the resolution saying you 184 01:46:34.320 --> 01:46:51.760 each other have to pay for it. >> I want to be on the record. I have a full background check and fingerprinting from the board of >> I have a seek clearance, but I will submit my information. >> I have no problem filling it out >> when I'm when I'm in town hall. >> It's fine. >> I have no problem doing that. >> I've had several, but sounds great. 185 01:46:51.760 --> 01:47:06.400 >> All right. Anybody else on the background check issue? >> All right, we could close that public discussion and start committee reports. Councilman Dixon. >> Okay, we had [clears throat] u myself, uh, Councilman Gant, and Councilman 186 01:47:06.400 --> 01:47:24.000 Cortez had a town hall. I guess week and a half, two weeks ago right here in this club, right in this room here. Uh it was attended probably about by about 30 people. Uh it was actually a very good very casual [clears throat] time for people to have any uh concerns or 187 01:47:24.000 --> 01:47:38.719 questions for council people where perfect example here you only get a couple minutes. We can't give you a full answer. We were able to really have a nice back and forth conversation. Some of the stuff we're talked about were basically stuff that you hear here. Traffic problems, speeders, people going 188 01:47:38.719 --> 01:47:55.040 through stop signs. So, uh an issue over there in the district one and the chief uh took care of that for me. And from what I understand, it's been working out pretty good. Um we had other issues about or how we run the how the agenda 189 01:47:55.040 --> 01:48:11.760 happens here every month that a lot of stuff is being put on for the last minute. And that's something as a council we've talked about too. It's we're a little uncomfortable with that too because it doesn't give us time to really digest what it is and we have sometimes have to make a decision on the 190 01:48:11.760 --> 01:48:26.880 fly. But it's also not fair to the public who doesn't have time to look it over and have questions for us. And it's definitely not fair for the the clerks downstairs who have to change a agendas two or three times when someone tries to 191 01:48:26.880 --> 01:48:44.400 put something on the last minute. So I think that might be something we may be addressing. But it was a good conversation with that. Uh the other thing was talked about was the volunteerism. That was that was the point >> and I said hopefully maybe some other council people have one this month. I 192 01:48:44.400 --> 01:49:00.639 know ours is kind of last minute but they could put something together and it'd be nice. It was a nice nice event. Um the historical uh commission society is going to have an open house at the Coast Guard station this Saturday from 10 to 5. I believe the Coast Guard is 193 01:49:00.639 --> 01:49:16.719 also having an open house for their facility so you could bounce back and forth to each place. Um I don't know how much stuff is going to be in the new co in the Coast Guard building. I know they're going to have some displays, but it's basically just a uh an idea for 194 01:49:16.719 --> 01:49:32.000 people to go there and just look at the building, look inside, see what they got going, and they'll be able there'll be people there explaining what they want to do, how they want to do it, and what their future plans are for it. So, if you have time on Saturday between 10:00 and 5, stop by there if you're curious 195 01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:46.639 to see what the building looks like, this is your chance. Uh the other day there was an incident on Route 35, a train station. And apparently I was in the neighborhood looking for some people. I know for a fact they're over 196 01:49:46.639 --> 01:50:02.880 in the burrow a few days prior to that. Uh unfortunately when they were by our train station, one of the uh people that they were going to check out ran away, ran across, well not exactly ran across 35, got halfway and got hit by a car. Uh 197 01:50:02.880 --> 01:50:20.159 we don't have any information on who that person is or if that was the target of the ICE people or not or just someone who got this scared and ran. So if anyone had any question about that, we don't have any information for you. Uh obviously uh the tax bills are going out 198 01:50:20.159 --> 01:50:35.920 this uh month, this week. Uh some people probably looked online and they have sticker shock. Um, vast majority of people seem like their uh, bills went up. I talked to my neighbors. 199 01:50:35.920 --> 01:50:51.119 I got a few I looked up a few of them. I had one neighbor went down 3,000. I had another neighbor went up 3,000. I had a couple other neighbors that went up 7,000. There's another house that went up$10,000. There's one that went down $100. 200 01:50:51.119 --> 01:51:06.639 There was another one that went down $3,000. So I think what happened was being that we haven't had a re-evaluation in such a long time. I think was like 18 years and everyone knows what the price is in Point Pleasant Beach now. I think the average 201 01:51:06.639 --> 01:51:23.520 household now is is 1.2 million. So your house is either doubled or tripled in value or you built a new house after Sandy and you didn't get a true uh reevaluation back then and that's how you got slammed with the new tax rate. 202 01:51:23.520 --> 01:51:39.040 Uh And the last thing um we're going to be talking about, it's on the agenda tonight about the open space. I'll we'll talk about that later on, but that's something that's coming up. I'll explain it real quick. A few months ago, we brought up about the open space when we had the reevaluation. 203 01:51:39.040 --> 01:51:54.719 Our tax rate was adjusted for the reval, [clears throat] but the open space wasn't. So, it was still set at 1 cent per 100. So, as you all know, your house either doubled or possibly even tripled in value. So, that 204 01:51:54.719 --> 01:52:11.760 still became one penny on one on your property. So, for argument sake, let's just say you were paying $100 with this not being adjusted like our tax bill was, you're going to pay 200 this year. So, we passed the whole council and 205 01:52:11.760 --> 01:52:28.880 mayor council passed an ordinance um you know months ago that we wanted to knock it down to half a cent. Brought it to the county's attention. They were like, "Yeah, I guess you can do it. It's up to your burough attorney's interpretation and our ordinance said something to the effect 206 01:52:28.880 --> 01:52:45.040 that we could have it up to one cent." So, we figured, well, we could go down to a half. We're not getting rid of it. So by going by a half, it would maintain what we were getting. Actually, it was a tiny bit above how much money we were bringing in prior to the revaluation. 207 01:52:45.040 --> 01:53:00.400 It's somewhere in the range like 200,000. With this reevaluation, it's going to bring in like 400,000. So they went to the state. The state said they uh okay, you guys could appeal it. We feel that maybe you should have 208 01:53:00.400 --> 01:53:17.679 to go to referendum on it. But in the meantime, they also said that our budget that we handed in that they're not going to certify it until we have this cleared up. So that's why your tax bills are late this year because the appeal process wouldn't have been 209 01:53:17.679 --> 01:53:33.520 until sometime in o in August and we would have got our bills out, tax bills out late. That means we would have bought any money in that means we would had walked through some cash to pay our bills. So we held that off and um 210 01:53:33.520 --> 01:53:50.480 state wasn't going to certify. So we had no choice but to say okay we give up on it for now. But on the agenda tonight, we want to ask that uh we get a uh vote on whether we want to put this on a referendum for November to lower it to half to lower it to a half cent, which 211 01:53:50.480 --> 01:54:06.239 would maintain the same amount of money, a little bit more than what we were paying prior to the reevaluation instead everyone getting double. So this year you would get double whacked with it. But if this passes and everyone votes for it, then next year would go back to 212 01:54:06.239 --> 01:54:23.360 what it was prior to reevaluation. And that's it. >> Hey, excuse me. John, just uh the first thing you touched on with our town hall meeting was the you know the agenda. >> I went back all of two all of 2025 and all of the meetings so far this 213 01:54:23.360 --> 01:54:40.480 year. Every single meeting except for a special meeting we had last year and a special meeting this year all had revised agendas the day of the meeting. half of them were not emergencies that needed to be added at that time. You 214 01:54:40.480 --> 01:54:57.199 know, the other half were, you know, um a typo on a on a uh a position, a dollar amount typo or a bond ordinance we we had to vote on, but it shouldn't happen. Not every meeting 215 01:54:57.199 --> 01:55:11.840 should be revised the day of the meeting. And I'm talking most of them, pretty much all of them came out after 12:00 noon. Some of us work, some of us at, you know, you don't get a chance to look at the the 216 01:55:11.840 --> 01:55:27.840 agenda till 3:00, 4:00. How can you even ask somebody a question? The meeting's at night. So that's that's something we really have to change. >> So what would you guys want to do something about that? >> I just wanted to bring that up. We can discuss that at another. >> All right, let's continue the committee 217 01:55:27.840 --> 01:55:43.920 reports. Uh, council, >> I just wanted to add to John Council Dixon's report. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, I attended the uh board of fire officials meeting last month. Um, the uh we appreciate all that they uh they do for our town, all of our 218 01:55:43.920 --> 01:55:59.040 first responders. Um, they wanted me to thank the mayor and council for uh starting the process on the uh securing of a firet truck. They were very appreciative. um they covered a lot of great stuff uh obviously that they're doing their trainings and everything 219 01:55:59.040 --> 01:56:15.199 else. Um so um you know thank you to them and they wanted me to extend the thanks to the mayor and council. Um I was uh very excited to attend the uh the grand opening of the new market in Point Pleasant Beach. I think I see half the 220 01:56:15.199 --> 01:56:31.440 town was there as well as well as I was very excited to see the entire council and the mayor when the mayor cut the ribbon. So, we're we're wishing them great success and uh and uh hope they stay put. Um our police report um for the uh followings for the police 221 01:56:31.440 --> 01:56:46.560 activity since the last council meeting on July 7th. arrests. 85 arrests resulting in 124 criminal charges for the following eight [clears throat] DWIS. Obstruction, theft, shoplifting, criminal trespass, 222 01:56:46.560 --> 01:57:01.760 harassment, endangering the welfare of a child, simple assault, resisting arrest, aggravated assault on police officer, disarming a police officer, aggravated assault with a firearm, unlawful possession of a firearm, disorderly conduct, drug possession, lwdness, and 223 01:57:01.760 --> 01:57:17.520 warrants. uh 30% increase from the same time last year. Uh burrow ordinances 610 burrow ordinances for the following. Bicycle regulations, loitering, drinking in public, interference with police, urinating in public, misbehaving, 224 01:57:17.520 --> 01:57:33.679 smoking prohibited, pedestrian violations, sleeping in motor vehicle, noise nuisance, and littering. There were 2,480 parking [clears throat] tickets. >> Um and that's it. That's all I have. >> Thank you. >> All right. Thank you, Council President G. 225 01:57:33.679 --> 01:57:50.480 >> Good evening, everybody. Um, recreation committee, uh, summer events are listed on the township website. There's actually a summer concert series that's happening right now if anybody feels like they want to get up and go, listen to the, uh, concert. >> Feel free [laughter] 226 01:57:50.480 --> 01:58:06.159 while you can. Events are now being uh, planned for the fall. Uh, open space. Open space is looking for a few areas for improvements throughout the town. uh some of which include the little league and some of the little pocket parks. Um 227 01:58:06.159 --> 01:58:23.520 like council and uh Dixon said and Cortez, we did have the town hall uh event that went really well. A lot of concerns about the parking areas as already stated, stop sign violations. Uh big thing was blocking Route 35 at the intersection of McClean over by Roundo. 228 01:58:23.520 --> 01:58:41.280 I guess it's happening like it used to happen over at Arnold in uh 35. So, they're looking at uh maybe doing a box over there. I think they sent that to you already, Joe. Uh crosswalk improvements for downtown. They repainted some of the uh crosswalks already for the downtown area. But, uh 229 01:58:41.280 --> 01:58:56.800 like the other councilman said, one of the biggest things uh was adding last minute additions to the agenda and people are just feel like they're getting surprised and they actually don't have time to research listed items. We don't have time to ask questions like uh Councilman Cortez was 230 01:58:56.800 --> 01:59:13.440 saying. Uh, [cough] a lot of people [clears throat] won't feel that it only should be emergency items if it's not uh if it's just a generic thing. Um, but we do have a next town hall meeting is planned for uh September 30th. Uh, it's 231 01:59:13.440 --> 01:59:27.920 going to be with Councilman Ramos and Councilwoman Stillison. Uh, one of the topics of discussion uh will be the Channel Drive revitalization project. So, if people have any questions on that uh on that project that we have other 232 01:59:27.920 --> 01:59:45.280 than that, I don't have anything else. >> Thank you. >> Great. Uh Council >> J, I might need your help with the >> Just plug it in. Is what you're saying? Okay. All right. I'm going to try to be quick. All right. First of all, um fire and EMT busy [clears throat] busy 233 01:59:45.280 --> 02:00:02.239 volunteers calls ranging from car accidents to rescuing swimmers. Um, these are just amazing volunteers. They're doing also community outreach. They go to our Point Pleasant Beach summer camp and they blast the kids with their fire hose. It's awesome. Um, a 234 02:00:02.239 --> 02:00:18.639 special shout out to Sabrina from the EMT. She assisted in a little personal rescue that I was involved in with a a friend of mine. She was so professional, totally impressed, and she's a volunteer. So, thank you, Sabrina. Um, shade tree, big beautiful tree 235 02:00:18.639 --> 02:00:34.480 program has been launched. The free street program has been launched and they've gotten seven applications for those. They're going to be evaluating it. Um, the burrow trees, the shade tree commission thanks our DPW for watering the new trees and the commission members 236 02:00:34.480 --> 02:00:49.599 placed mulch mats on several trees to suppress weeds and prevent trunk damage. Um, there was a resident um from the residents of Parkway. They this the parkway in our street in our town has a 237 02:00:49.599 --> 02:01:06.560 um grass median in the middle of it and those medians are 50 feet long, 10 feet wide. You might notice now that I'm going to say this, there's no overhead wires. That's because they're underground. Well, in the 300 block, the residents are asking if the council would take it upon ourselves to clean it 238 02:01:06.560 --> 02:01:22.320 up, plant trees. The shade tree commission's on board. We don't have to talk about that tonight, but that's like anmer will will be an emerging issue. >> I already I already talked to Jack Johnson over at DPW. He he willing he will clean up the overgrowth on that. And then I was going to ask you if the 239 02:01:22.320 --> 02:01:39.119 shade tree commission is still interested. >> Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure they are. So, it's >> already done. >> Highly probable. [laughter] Um let's see. That was them. Environmental commission. Um we are working on a wonderful project to do a proactive lake management plan along 240 02:01:39.119 --> 02:01:55.360 with our bur administrator and even with the Barnagget Bay partnership of the national estuary program that's a federalfunded program. They happen to uh hear about some of the great things that we're doing environmentally in our town. 241 02:01:55.360 --> 02:02:13.360 They reached out to us that translates into support like dollars. So we're hopeful to work with them. Um, but I'm going to do a better roll out of that and presentation hopefully at the next council meeting when we have some more information. Um, and let's see. Okay, to 242 02:02:13.360 --> 02:02:30.159 my next one. Um, this is where I have a slide I'd like to present to the town. Please wish me luck. I'm going to try to present it, but it's has to do with our um, public information process. And we've talked a lot tonight about [clears throat] process with the background checks. I'm going to 243 02:02:30.159 --> 02:02:45.440 demonstrate an actual process and it's creation. So, right now we have a a paid a paid person who um who publishes information on our social media, on our newsletter, whatnot. That's called our 244 02:02:45.440 --> 02:03:02.000 public information officer. That position right now can be contacted by basically anyone in any way. And there's no set format. So, what we'd like what I'd like to do tonight is to create a process for that. And I made a flowchart 245 02:03:02.000 --> 02:03:17.199 so that everybody can see it visually. I'm going to have to leave my microphone to do that. >> And while you're working up, I'll just say there is a process in place where if a committee wants a uh social media post, uh the public information officer will create it and send it over to the 246 02:03:17.199 --> 02:03:41.599 burough administrator for approval. >> If this doesn't work, I can just I'll just verbally talk about it. doing something >> device. >> While we're looking for this, I'll I'll speak about it. So, basically, we're looking to refine it into a fourstep 247 02:03:41.599 --> 02:03:57.280 process. >> Okay. Do you want to sit here? >> Sure. >> Step step number one is that there's going to be a form on the the Bur website. on a form on the burough website that 248 02:03:57.280 --> 02:04:12.800 our public information officer, our burough administrator, myself have been collaboratively working on. Anybody can go ahead and fill out that form. It's basically who, what, when, where, why of um an information posting request. Um 249 02:04:12.800 --> 02:04:28.400 then the public information officer will vet it. Is it is it appropriate with our for a municipal announcement? After that, it will go to one of two approvers. It will go to either if it's 250 02:04:28.400 --> 02:04:44.000 municipal information or emergency information, it will be approved from our bar administrator. And if it's a social event or a committee event, it will go through what I would like to create is a new a new position called a council 251 02:04:44.000 --> 02:05:07.280 approval. This is a member of the council that will be appointed by the council who would approve social announcements and committee announcements. Now, let me see a second. No, my screen. Oh, wait a second. Why is this so small? 252 02:05:07.280 --> 02:05:23.119 >> That's my flowchart, but nobody can see it. Wait a second. Hold on. Um, >> make it full screen on your computer. Yes. [applause] All right. All right. Okay. So, so let's see. So, here we go. This 253 02:05:23.119 --> 02:05:38.239 is, by the way, kind of what I would like for the background check to make it easy for people to understand the process. So, here it is. How to request official burrow communications. The bureau's four-step process for reviewing and publishing announcements. Step one, 254 02:05:38.239 --> 02:05:55.840 prepare and submit your request. That will be done on our municipal website in a form that we have created. Step two, the public information officer reviews the request. So that's the first step of vetting it. Step number three, the 255 02:05:55.840 --> 02:06:12.400 approval routing. If it is official burrow and municipal notices, the burough administrator would approve it. If it's community events and announcements, the council approver would approve it. You'll notice this is a capital C and a capital A. That's 256 02:06:12.400 --> 02:06:29.679 because this is the title of a position. And then the final step um if that gets approved, the public information officer will create and publish the announcement. This will streamline it for anybody who wants to um submit a 257 02:06:29.679 --> 02:06:44.719 request for an announcement and it will help vet the process and make things more efficient. I have down here helpful tips for success. Plan ahead. Submit requests as early as possible. Include all event details. Use highquality 258 02:06:44.719 --> 02:07:00.560 photos. And submitting a ready-made graphic can help speed up the process. Um, so what I'm looking for tonight is if we could [clears throat] make a motion to create this position called council approver. >> Well, I just have a question. How would 259 02:07:00.560 --> 02:07:14.639 it be more efficient if it's going to one person Joe now? How is adding a council member making this more efficient? >> Well, it helps vet the the different the different events. Right now, it's going 260 02:07:14.639 --> 02:07:31.360 to Joe and I think that you also know everything goes to Joe. I don't see I don't see all the events from other committees. >> Well, social events should go through a council person. I just think that that's a a more effective way. I don't I don't Is there a problem with that? 261 02:07:31.360 --> 02:07:46.639 >> I it just it doesn't make sense to me. If we're doing it now through the burough administrator, why do we change that and make it a function of a council person when Joe is the ultimate say for the burrow on a lot of things? So, he should be the the final say for this as well. 262 02:07:46.639 --> 02:08:03.040 >> That I think that >> I can't see the efficiency of adding it >> because the the council members are the liaison to the committees. They work with the committees and um it takes it it also gives it a second check and balance. It's not just one person vetting them. Now you have two and 263 02:08:03.040 --> 02:08:19.440 they're designated for the different um the different functions. >> But the council liaison, this is great, Kitty. I mean I love it. But the council [music] liaison, of course, I start talking with train. the council liaison um works with that committee and the 264 02:08:19.440 --> 02:08:35.440 council liaison is also in touch with with with Joe. So, >> but not really. That's not how it works right now. >> So, you're going to have one C you're proposing I'm just trying to understand this. You're proposing one council person would get elected into this position and they're the ones who 265 02:08:35.440 --> 02:08:50.639 they're the one only ones who can approve this. >> Yeah. for social events and committee events that first it would go through the public information officer who vets it first. Then there's a second process, a second set of eyes looking at things, 266 02:08:50.639 --> 02:09:07.440 not just one person. It gives another set of eyes, >> but the burough administrator won't get it. The council approver will get it. >> That's correct. So now you have but but what you're doing there is you're eliminating the the burough CEO, right, >> of being in the knowledge of something that they're proposing to do, 267 02:09:07.440 --> 02:09:22.560 >> right? I mean, he should be in the knowledge of everything going on in this town. He's the town CEO. Um, you know, if you want to include the council and have council approve it, uh, my suggestion would be it should go to both because he needs to be in the know of everything that's going on in this town. 268 02:09:22.560 --> 02:09:39.440 >> Well, I guess that he could be also copied. I mean, the bar administrator could be copied on it. >> No, but that's just one person vetting it. It should be a second set of eyes looking through it. Well, the the public information officer does the initial review, right, and 269 02:09:39.440 --> 02:09:56.000 verifies the information and then so that's one check. Then goes to Joe, the burough administrator for a second check, >> but it doesn't go that way right now. >> Sure it does. >> No, it doesn't. >> Can I ask you a question, >> Joe? Do you do you get ahead? >> Did did you have an opportunity to talk 270 02:09:56.000 --> 02:10:12.000 to the uh Nicole the How does she feel about >> Totally on board. >> Okay. >> Yes. In fact, a lot of this she was already thinking about >> her what she does easier. >> Absolutely. Yeah. No, she was definitely on board with it. We had a lot of 271 02:10:12.000 --> 02:10:27.840 conversations about this. Um, in fact, when I reached out to her, she was already thinking along these same lines. It was totally synchronicity. It was >> well, she created a form. >> I don't know if she was so much thinking about a council approver, but I worked 272 02:10:27.840 --> 02:10:44.239 with her and Joe to create the form >> on our website. So that was what she was working on, which I think is a great idea. >> Well, that was your conversation with her. My multiple conversations with her were really quite different. She was she was totally on board with this whole thing. Okay. >> That's why I'm presenting it tonight. I 273 02:10:44.239 --> 02:10:59.119 would not be doing this if I didn't have a chat with her. So basically, I'm asking the council tonight to make a motion to approve a council appointed council approver to create for this process. 274 02:10:59.119 --> 02:11:15.840 I I just would like you to change it to include Joe as well to be copied on it so he's aware of what's being >> He has to know all the events and everything that's going on. >> Sure. He can be copied on it. >> Okay. Do I have anybody make a motion? >> I'll make that motion for you, Kitty. 275 02:11:15.840 --> 02:11:30.960 >> Thank you. >> Second. >> I'll second it. >> Thank you. >> Well, first off, who's going to be the >> Motion's on the floor. >> Well, hold on. But you have to know who the council approve is going to be. >> No, not right now. We're just making it a position for it. >> Okay. 276 02:11:30.960 --> 02:11:47.280 >> So, I guess we could do the roll call. >> Councilman Dixon. >> Yes. >> Council Ramos. >> Yes. >> Council Gant. >> Yes. >> Council Silson. >> Yes. >> And Councilman Cortez? >> Yes. >> Okay. The second thing would be to appoint that person, which now the 277 02:11:47.280 --> 02:12:03.520 council's going to have the ability to do. Would anybody like to appoint any of the council members like to appoint a council person for this position? >> Sure. I'm gonna nominate you, Kitty, since you want to. [laughter] >> I'll second that. >> Wow. Thank you, guys. >> Better check your email. 278 02:12:03.520 --> 02:12:20.960 >> Mike, would that be a No, hold on. Would that be a mayorial appointment? >> No, we're creating it right now. >> Hold on. Hold on. We're asking the burough attorney. I >> I think that if you're doing this as an interim [clears throat] measure by resolution, a resolutions adopted by the 279 02:12:20.960 --> 02:12:36.639 governing body. Um, so if it's being done on kind of like an interim basis to direct how we're handling communication tomorrow, it would be up to what's included in the resolution. I do think that if this is going to have some level 280 02:12:36.639 --> 02:12:53.760 of permanence, it should be codified. Um, and if it were codified, the council should look at the nominating structure that it wishes to pursue. Um, so if it's an individual council member, I guess it would be the individual. Um, I do I will say that if the design were the leaz the 281 02:12:53.760 --> 02:13:10.800 the chair of the subcommittee, I think that that fits within your ordinance where you probably don't need to codify anything because it would be consistent with that. Um, but otherwise, [clears throat] I would probably codify it long term. >> Okay. >> But we can nominate that person tonight. >> I Yeah, I won't I wouldn't take a legal 282 02:13:10.800 --> 02:13:28.560 issue with that. >> Okay. >> All right. >> She's doing the official vote. Councilman Dixon. >> Yes. >> Council Ramos. Yes. >> Counc. Yes. >> Council Stilson. >> Yes. >> Council Cortez. >> Yes. >> Thank you guys. >> Okay. >> Congratulations. 283 02:13:28.560 --> 02:13:44.239 >> I have one more thing. >> It has to do with um America 250. Um I was very impressed by all the donations and whatnot that's been collected for the America 250 event. Um, two council 284 02:13:44.239 --> 02:14:00.560 meetings ago, we had given um, the authorization to allow what's normally like an emergency special event fund to be accessed if it was needed. I've since been told that it absolutely is not needed and with tax bills being what they are and things like that, it's 285 02:14:00.560 --> 02:14:16.639 truly a matter of every penny counts, I would like to resend that $4,000 accessibility. >> Um, would anybody like to >> It was never given though. Yes, it was at our council meeting. >> It was never given. >> No, no funds were trans. >> There's no funds that were 286 02:14:16.639 --> 02:14:33.599 >> No, but it's the accessibility. It's the authorization to use it um if needed. >> And I don't see a reason why taxpayers should be paying for that if it's already been paid for by sponsors. >> I think that's up to the council's discretion. I guess given that the event 287 02:14:33.599 --> 02:14:50.239 has ended, I >> Well, no, there's another there's another event. >> Yeah, then I guess it's up to your discretion. >> Okay. >> All right. So, would anybody like to >> Can I make them? >> I was just a question. How much is this other event going to cost? Anyone know? >> I have uh it's about $4,000. 288 02:14:50.239 --> 02:15:05.440 >> How much is left over? >> I believe it's 6,000. >> So, we're good, >> don't you? >> We're good. >> Yeah. So, I would just like to resend that. So, do I make a motion for that? Yeah, I'd like to make a motion to 289 02:15:05.440 --> 02:15:20.320 refresh my memory. We're sending a resolution or There was a motion in a past meeting that that provided >> by resolution. >> It was a resol. Yes. >> Yeah. Motion resolution. I forgot if it was actually I think it was I think it was a hand motion but 290 02:15:20.320 --> 02:15:38.159 >> or a verbal motion but that's like an emergency fund for special events. Um so I'd like to make that motion. >> I'll second it. >> Councilman Dixon. >> Yes. >> Councilman Ramos. Yes. >> Council Gant. Yes. Council 291 02:15:38.159 --> 02:15:53.599 >> Silson. Yes, Councilman Cortez. >> Yes. >> That's all for my report. >> All right. Councilman Cortez. >> Thank you, Mayor. Hello, everyone. Everyone at [clears throat] home. Uh to start, we have um our anniversaries for 292 02:15:53.599 --> 02:16:10.000 August. [clears throat] Uh in our DPW, Jonathan Manina, one year. Alex Forsber, one year. Uh from our court, our judge, Robert Leapour, six years. and in our administration Patty Kyle 14 years 293 02:16:10.000 --> 02:16:24.480 um public property buildings and grounds that is my standing committee we have a lot on the agenda pick up your agendas one F 294 02:16:24.480 --> 02:16:40.399 uh that was for all three lakes uh Princeton Hydro uh doing a study very detailed study actually with you know water quality uh by the metric study watershed and lake modeling 295 02:16:40.399 --> 02:16:57.120 watershed visual assessment and that was on three ladens um one J just to go over all that I try to do this so you don't get up to the mic I save you time so you don't have to ask questions 296 02:16:57.120 --> 02:17:12.319 uh 1J uh that was for the machine we already have in our possession we have a paint machine that was bought and you know purchased uh through the uh contract we have you we don't pay it until we take possession of it. Now 297 02:17:12.319 --> 02:17:28.319 DPW's already used it. They love it. And I think it's going to save us money from hiring the uh painting uh line painting uh contractor that we used to use. Uh one Y 298 02:17:28.319 --> 02:17:44.719 um that was a approved, you know, in our budget and they are trading in the old truck. So we're getting, you know, that that's what it took a little bit of money off of the new truck. Uh, and that's used quite a bit. Uh, vacuuming 299 02:17:44.719 --> 02:18:00.639 out the uh, storm drains. Um, 1 Z, that's a little bit of a typo. That was uh, Lake of the Liies and Little Silver Lake. But that 11,248 is for April, May, June, and July. Not 300 02:18:00.639 --> 02:18:19.040 just two months, that's for four months. So, that made when I asked that question, it made it a little more palatable to me. Um, got an email last week about the Lincoln Avenue uh kayak uh ramp. Um, I met with 301 02:18:19.040 --> 02:18:34.880 our burough administrator Joe out there. There was some concerns on the way, you know, we have a split rail fence. Uh, we um replaced an outfall pipe over there and it that was horrible. Um, we put a 302 02:18:34.880 --> 02:18:51.599 little split rail fence and a sign, >> you know. No, no. Um, I forget what it says. >> No. >> No. Yeah. After 10 o'clock at night or something, you know, um, and a couple of small shrubs and a concrete launch. So, people could launch a kayak. And when we 303 02:18:51.599 --> 02:19:08.080 were over there, there happened to be somebody on a bicycle with their little dolly and they had a they were kayaking and they they said there was real no problem. Uh Joe, did I did you notice we just got a email tonight from a reply from the gentleman that I copied? Uh one 304 02:19:08.080 --> 02:19:25.439 of them about 817. So we're >> we'll revisit that. But he had some concerns about the way the tree and the signs were. You had a kind of zigzag. And the reason they were placed like that is we didn't want any trailers or cars to back down on this ramp. you know, just a bicycle with maybe a dolly 305 02:19:25.439 --> 02:19:42.639 or you carry your your kayak or a little sunfish sailboat. But I'll read that email tomorrow and talk to uh Joe about it. [clears throat] Uh Councilman Dixon touched on uh McClean Avenue um at our town hall 306 02:19:42.639 --> 02:19:58.160 meeting. They were three three things. uh going through the stop sign at McLean and Woodland, speeding on Woodland, and then using as a cutth through. Um I understand, you know, and and I said, listen, there there are quite a few cut 307 02:19:58.160 --> 02:20:15.600 through streets in town. Um, New Jersey Avenue is one from Bay Avenue to 35 South, Washington Avenue, uh, straight shot to Bradshaw's, you know, and I would I would think anybody coming south on 35 that shoots down River Avenue and 308 02:20:15.600 --> 02:20:31.040 turns down McClean and goes to Woodland to go to Arnold is probably a local that doesn't want to avoid, you know, go down Arnold Avenue. So, thanks to the chief and and John for talking to the police 309 02:20:31.040 --> 02:20:46.080 department. Um, I was doing some work on Grove Street last week. I was there for three days and all three days I saw cars being pulled over on Woodland. So, I think a message is being sent. Don't blow the stop sign and don't speed. That's a good thing. Uh, right out here 310 02:20:46.080 --> 02:21:02.479 at New Jersey Avenue and 35 North, the traffic light installation is moving along. We just need a a lot more um dry weather so they can pour the cement. >> Andy, do you think they might take out that second street light that's right past it? No. 311 02:21:02.479 --> 02:21:20.399 >> Atlantic. No, that will stay there. The biggest concern in 2011 is when this street this [clears throat] traffic light at New Jersey Avenue was supposed to start 2011. Okay. And then uh like 2017 the state came and 312 02:21:20.399 --> 02:21:37.600 said listen we don't like cars heading west stopping on the tracks. Makes sense. Don't want them stopping. We want to put a light at New Jersey and at Foreman. And that would have put three traffic lights in a row. New Jersey, Atlantic, and Foreman. And I was on the 313 02:21:37.600 --> 02:21:54.399 council back then and our former Burough administrator and engineer was saying that's absurd. That's why Foreman Avenue is one way for that block going east so no cars can stop on the lift. But they want to put a light here. And there has to be a light 314 02:21:54.399 --> 02:22:11.280 here. I think in the past three three or four weeks, Chief, how many? Like three accidents, I think. >> Yeah. >> And since 2023 to January of this year, there were 23 accidents out here. So it it's a bad intersection. It needs the [clears throat] light. They're moving 315 02:22:11.280 --> 02:22:27.600 moving along. >> Why? While they're doing that, not to interrupt you on that, can we while they're out there fixing putting a new light in, >> can we have them look at Atlantic because I think the sensors where the cars pull up, >> unless if you're trying to go east, >> that light's never changing unless 316 02:22:27.600 --> 02:22:42.720 somebody shows up going west. >> When you're heading east, >> we can get the motion cameras up there. >> Oh, yeah. >> I think all the old lines in the street got tore up. Um, >> what if we can have that light fixed since they're putting the other one up? Maybe they can shoot over there, right? 317 02:22:42.720 --> 02:22:58.720 Since they're out here doing it. >> Um, yeah, there's a bond ordinance on for first reading tonight. That is for Randall Avenue. Um, we did want, you know, we were going to repave it. We videoed the um 318 02:22:58.720 --> 02:23:15.680 the sewer sanitary sewer pipe and it's multiple. It's ductal. It's PVC. It's cast iron. It's been, you know, pieced together. Uh, it wasn't worth trying to put what they do is a put a bladder in it. It wasn't going to work. So, that 319 02:23:15.680 --> 02:23:28.640 that's what the bond ordinance is for so that we can replace that sanitary sewer pipe the whole length before it gets paved. And all it did was push the timelines back a little bit. Um, let me 320 02:23:28.640 --> 02:23:48.720 see for last on that. Let's go to 1s. Because we're whenever we pave a road, >> we we the engineer and our zoning official code enforcement will look at all the existing curb cuts on that road. 321 02:23:48.720 --> 02:24:05.840 Uh a lot of them are out of um what is allowable for a single driveway 10 to 13 feet, double double uh garage, single single car garage 10 to 13, twocar garage 13 to 16. People have to send 322 02:24:05.840 --> 02:24:22.000 letters in stating why. I had a halfhour conversation this morning with Kristen Tron as as I finished driving out and looking at all these um homes that sent in 125, 127, [clears throat and cough] 323 02:24:22.000 --> 02:24:40.720 129, 2011, 203, 207, 213, and 215. Um I agree with her. Some of it she went back and did some records. Uh, one of them has two curb cuts that was approved in 2007, well before our ordinance was changed 324 02:24:40.720 --> 02:24:57.439 after Sandy with a single curb cut on a property. Um, it was approved by the planning board. I think it would be a little difficult to try and get them to remove that. If somebody bought the house and tore it down, then they would have to abide by the new rules. None of 325 02:24:57.439 --> 02:25:12.080 these um out of um allowable widths would create any more parking on the street if we if we lower, you know, uh 326 02:25:12.080 --> 02:25:29.359 squash them down to the correct width. So, I'm hoping that the council will see that in a and just approve them. I I said I looked at them and [cough] it would make make no sense to pick up three feet, you know, two feet. It doesn't add any parking on any of these. 327 02:25:29.359 --> 02:25:45.920 Like I said, I looked at them. I was out on the street about a half an hour uh this morning and then I spoke with Kristen. She was on Google Earth while I was talking to her. Um >> so Andy 1s would allow them to remain how they are. >> Yeah. >> Yes. That's you know, they all they all 328 02:25:45.920 --> 02:26:02.960 sent in letters. They all sent in. items in our packet with um site plans and and some reasons why uh Randall is a narrow street. There's parking on both sides. Kind of tough to back out of a small driveway, especially if cars are right there. So, I kind of agree with Kristen. 329 02:26:02.960 --> 02:26:19.920 She agreed with me that uh you know, these houses should should remain as is when we do the new you know uh curb cut. Um, just to add to your fire report on here, 3B and 3C. 330 02:26:19.920 --> 02:26:33.760 I know everybody looking at that kind of I caught my eye because it's a high ticket item. >> Uh, the bailout kits, that's like a repelling rope if somebody's on a second fire, one of our volunteer firemen on the second floor and they have to bail 331 02:26:33.760 --> 02:26:51.359 out, you know, carabiner repelling um, boots and gloves. They all have expiration dates. It's not like these are brand new and you know they all have expiration dates or so many uses and that's why they're being replaced. Uh 332 02:26:51.359 --> 02:27:11.840 the exportation equipment same. Um that's being sharp one and two. Um, but that's again equipment that uh overstated its welcome. Just wanted to point that out because 333 02:27:11.840 --> 02:27:27.680 >> Thank you, Councilman. >> You know, 51,000 and 43,000 jumped right out at me >> on here. [clears throat] Um, the senior committee liaison. We got a little thing here. Uh, welcomes another new member on the agenda, Eileen 334 02:27:27.680 --> 02:27:45.840 uh Scardville. Uh the grocery bag collection drive went well. We collect they collected over,00 reusable grocery bags which were delivered to two food pantries for the customer u orders. >> Uh August 23rd uh theater outing is sold 335 02:27:45.840 --> 02:28:04.000 out. Uh we have secured tickets for a September oldies concert to PNC Art Center. Uh also planning September afternoon in Pleasure Park to christen the new boti supplies. Uh details will follow on that. Uh Councilman Gant is 336 02:28:04.000 --> 02:28:20.880 the liaison to open space, but I went and sat in. He he could make the meeting. >> Thank you. >> And I'll just read what they kind of discussed. Um uh does, you know, and this this might be something Joe that you might have to follow up on. Does Rosi property entitle 337 02:28:20.880 --> 02:28:38.399 you to more grants? Might be something that Kristen or Worth could tell us. >> Is the uh they would talk about The amount of Rossi >> what's that >> the amount if we have a high number [clears throat] are we more >> does Rossi property entitle you to more grants you know I guess if you have a 338 02:28:38.399 --> 02:28:54.080 Rossi property >> uh >> you mean if you want to make an improvement on a Rossi property we get a grant for that you get a grant okay >> um >> talking about moving the Coast Guard station into the Rossi might put a question mark 339 02:28:54.080 --> 02:29:09.920 >> um I don't know if I could talk 409 Trenton >> we kind of made that decision not approve. >> Yeah, >> that not to do it. >> Okay. Uh 419 Trenton Avenue. >> They're going to keep asking for that, just so you know. >> Um 340 02:29:09.920 --> 02:29:26.720 you know, the purchase, uh the pocket park on 417 Newark Avenue. Is it possible to sell? Now, I know that if you you try to sell a Rossi property, you have to >> pick up another Rossi property. 341 02:29:26.720 --> 02:29:43.359 A diversion is very tough. >> A diversion is very tough. You got to get state house commission approval. >> Um >> just so the members of the public know what a Rossi property is. It's identified property on and yes in case it [snorts] comes up for sale. We have an open space fund. Then we would cons 342 02:29:43.359 --> 02:29:59.840 then consider buying that property. [clears throat] It's a Rossi property. >> We have a lot of Rossi properties. Pleasure Park is on the Rossi. >> It is >> Lake of the Lily. This is not old or not that new rather but everything 343 02:29:59.840 --> 02:30:16.280 everything in green is a rasi lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake lake G island you know uh Pleasure Park 344 02:30:16.880 --> 02:30:32.960 um oh the [clears throat] area up here that this the state has a nice little walking path if you go to Broadway, but then they let it overgrow and they cut it once a year. [laughter] >> You know, we're Councilman Re Councilman Reed tried to get a dog park there and 345 02:30:32.960 --> 02:30:47.920 the state said no. >> I just thought that was from bikers going through that. >> Um, what else? They uh >> they wanted to know if Boston Avenue >> off of Nibck 346 02:30:47.920 --> 02:31:05.840 um and actually off of Harvard was ever really vacated. Was that ever a real street where um especially the one off of uh Nibblet where we have our uh our our flood weir boxes? Um 347 02:31:05.840 --> 02:31:21.024 um >> talked about >> we found out the little league field improvements are part of a grant. Remember we we did vote on that but they didn't have the time. Uh the company wanted to come in and redo our little league fields and get them all ready for opening day and it rained 348 02:31:21.024 --> 02:31:36.720 [clears throat] and rained and rained and they couldn't do it. So there I think they're going to be coming back. Joe, >> I'll talk about that because I I had a meeting today. >> Yeah, >> it's still nice. Um, you know, like again, you know, if 349 02:31:36.720 --> 02:31:52.960 you can sell it, sell Newark Avenue Pocket Park, and if we were to purchase Trenton Avenue, add that to Rossi, would that be a switch? I don't know. Um, that was it. You know, like I said, I 350 02:31:52.960 --> 02:32:09.200 sat in because Councilman Gant and I just wrote my notes. Um, that's it for me. >> Okay. Uh, all right. So, a few things. Uh, I do want to start on the sea streak, uh, and just update the public on where 351 02:32:09.200 --> 02:32:25.040 where that's going. Uh, so about a month and a half ago, uh, members of the council, uh, decided to vote against the ferry ordinance that were was proposed. Uh, shortly after that, uh, Sea Streak put out an email to their ridership saying that they will not be coming to 352 02:32:25.040 --> 02:32:42.160 Point Pleasant Beach. Um, shortly after that, I had conversations with uh the Sea Streak executives and and kind of begged them to uh reconsider and uh talked about the benefit of having them come into town. Um, while I was doing that, I talked to uh Bill Clearary, who 353 02:32:42.160 --> 02:32:57.600 owns Captain Bills, where the chief chief was uh going to come uh and talked to him about uh some options um you know, possibly putting in for uh the zoning application and stuff like that. Uh, so we kind of talked. I brought the sea street down. I was looking at the 354 02:32:57.600 --> 02:33:13.840 foot of Baltimore as a possible option. Uh, that wouldn't work for them. I thought it was a a borrowed street end, so it might be easier uh to to uh to take over that area. We looked at the uh the property 11315 on channel uh that 355 02:33:13.840 --> 02:33:28.640 the county is in the purchase uh in the process of purchasing. Uh that uh had some difficulties as well. So, uh, after that, the conversations kind of stalled, uh, until about a month ago. So, I know the exact date. It was, uh, July 6th, 2 356 02:33:28.640 --> 02:33:45.120 days after 4th of July. Uh, I received a call from a county commissioner, um, asking me about the sea streak. He had watched the six-hour meeting. Uh, he is very was very interested uh, in bringing the sea streak here. He asked, um, you know, my thoughts on it, and I said, 357 02:33:45.120 --> 02:34:02.080 "Yeah, I'm 100% for it." Uh, so he said, "Okay." Uh, I think we have a plan with the county. Um, I just wanted to get your support before we move forward. Um, probably about two, three weeks after that, I I went down to the county, had a meeting with them, uh, so with the 358 02:34:02.080 --> 02:34:18.240 commissioner, with the county administrator, county engineer, uh, and talked about, uh, the possibility of them coming here. Uh, and what the county was looking to do was to temporarily take over the lease at Captain Bills. um and the lease that was 359 02:34:18.240 --> 02:34:34.960 in place between Captain Bills and the Sea Streak. Um and they would run three trips here uh at the end of August and in September. Uh they're big on doing a pilot before they invest any time and money into um a full season uh excursion 360 02:34:34.960 --> 02:34:51.280 next year. So, uh in talking through the county, uh it was determined that the county uh is, I guess, somewhat immune to the local uh zoning laws in in town. So basically they would be able to go to Captain Bills and um as they have the 361 02:34:51.280 --> 02:35:06.720 lease and dock the boat. Uh the county board the commissioning board met. They all voted unanimously on it. Uh it needed one final review from another commissioner um to sign off on. Um after 362 02:35:06.720 --> 02:35:22.319 the board of commissioners approved it. before the signoff, um, members of council, one member of public, I believe, uh, called the county and voiced opposition, uh, with it being at Inlet Drive. So, the county commissioner 363 02:35:22.319 --> 02:35:39.040 who's going to sign off on it notified me last night, well, you know, it's more of a local thing. You guys have to vote on it. Uh, I'm not going to sign off on anything. So, um obviously I push back uh and talked to them about um you know other options. Uh this morning myself 364 02:35:39.040 --> 02:35:56.560 and council president Gant uh I know he had a meeting this morning with sea streak uh and the county. Uh we talked about the possibility of having them come to the clamp plant on Channel Drive. Um there are some issues there in terms of doing a pilot this summer. uh a 365 02:35:56.560 --> 02:36:13.760 they don't have coastg guard approval uh which took them about three months to get approval at the inlet drive. Um so they think it may be quicker because they already have prior approval but they don't have approval. And the biggest issue is uh because the dock there is higher uh in certain title 366 02:36:13.760 --> 02:36:30.399 situations it'd be very difficult to get a person uh in a wheelchair off the ship. So we we collectively agreed that that wasn't going to work. Um, so it's really now uh at the inlet uh with the county taking over the lease. Um, but 367 02:36:30.399 --> 02:36:45.920 the the county is hesitant to move forward until they feel that the majority of the council here is for it. So, all I could say is more to come. Um, I know the county wants to have a meeting with uh myself and and a couple of the council members. Uh so we're 368 02:36:45.920 --> 02:37:01.200 looking to plan that in the next day or two, but I just wanted to uh alert the public as to uh the sea streak. And I know I get asked every day from residents, businesses. I actually had probably four or five visitors email me saying, "I just got home from Point 369 02:37:01.200 --> 02:37:16.080 Pleasant Beach after a great weekend and it took, you know, three and a half hours on a train, five hours in traffic." Um and they were big proponents of the sea streak. I know, uh Commissioner Robas, who I've been dealing with, is a big proponent of it. obviously he sees the benefit not only 370 02:37:16.080 --> 02:37:32.800 to put Beach but to Ocean County. Um so again we will continue talking. My fear is if we can't get this done this time around Sea Streak is going to just abandon Point Pleasant Beach and they'll be running out of Belmar or one of these other towns. So um I'm motivated to try 371 02:37:32.800 --> 02:37:48.319 and get it done. I think we have to have some more conversations with the uh with the council and the county, but um that's just where we are. uh on the endowment fund. >> Can we talk about this a little bit that you just this >> I'm still going through my report. So at the end we could talk about it. >> I want to talk while you're 372 02:37:48.319 --> 02:38:04.000 >> Yeah. At the end uh the endowment fund um not a lot to say because it's not a uh a burrow entity but uh the board did meet a couple of weeks ago um and approved all the funds for all the different committees. So all the committees are all funded and the 373 02:38:04.000 --> 02:38:19.600 committee liaison have been told um their funding. Uh, America 250. Uh, we do have one more event on September 6th. We're doing the parade down Arnold Avenue starting at 10 a.m. and then a block party from 11 to 3 at the 374 02:38:19.600 --> 02:38:34.880 Banchell. So hopefully everybody could come out to that. Uh, couple weeks or last week, I had a meet the mayor uh walk uh that ended at the aquarium and I want to thank Jeninson's and specifically Cindy who runs the aquarium. We got a 2hour behindthe-scene 375 02:38:34.880 --> 02:38:51.120 tour of the aquarium. So it was very very cool. uh to learn about the animals, about the staff. We met several staff members, told us their story. Uh just a great experience. So, I want to thank Jenson's Aquarium for that. Councilman Ramos brought up the market. Uh I think I've been there every day 376 02:38:51.120 --> 02:39:07.359 since they opened, but I would urge residents to, you know, not just go and pick up one or two items. Uh try and do, you know, bulk shopping there. This way, we could keep them around for a for a little bit. Um they do have a lot of great stuff. uh their grab and go, their produce, their sushi, it's it's all very 377 02:39:07.359 --> 02:39:23.359 good. Um I just want to touch on the agenda uh addendums and and I get it right and there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes. Um and it's not just, you know, Eileen and Joe and me and Mike putting stuff together. We're waiting on 378 02:39:23.359 --> 02:39:38.399 uh information from professionals. We're waiting on, you know, information from other council members, some committees. So, it does it it lends itself to put putting stuff on um you know, kind of late. Um and I get it because I'm 379 02:39:38.399 --> 02:39:54.479 involved in it. Um and if we could put our heads together and figure out a way to limit only emergency type items. Um I'm for that as well. Um I know it's probably a b a burden on Eileen uh you know at two o'clock on on uh on meeting 380 02:39:54.479 --> 02:40:11.439 day who's trying to get all this stuff in and out. So I'm open to talking about it. um uh and trying to figure out a way to streamline that better. Um I want to give kudos to Chief Colesi. I get a ton of of complaints um most of them are 381 02:40:11.439 --> 02:40:27.359 warranted um throughout the summer months um from residents, from visitors. Um but I send them all to the chief just as awareness. Uh but he has been he's acting on all of these, you know, speeding like like Councilman Dixon was talking about. um you know, somebody's 382 02:40:27.359 --> 02:40:43.840 speeding down the street, I forward it to them for awareness and the next day there's, you know, a radar sign out there or an officer. So, Chief, I want to thank you for being super responsive. Uh it means a lot to the residents because I've gotten some feedback back that I've shared with you that oh wow, you know, I just emailed you and now the 383 02:40:43.840 --> 02:40:59.840 police are out there. So, thank you for that. No problem. Um, Mayor's Wellness, uh, August 22nd from 8:00 a.m. to 1 pm, uh, we'll have our first wellness day, uh, in conjunction with Peach House Pilates. So, there'll be an all level Pilates class, a stretching class, 384 02:40:59.840 --> 02:41:15.359 recovery sessions, yoga, kids movement, uh, live music, and interactive wellness clinics. That's going to be at the band shell. >> Mayor, what day is that? >> August 22nd, so Saturday morning. >> Nice. >> From 8 to 1. Uh, and then we're still planning a 385 02:41:15.359 --> 02:41:33.359 meatball bake off uh for Sunday, October 4th, where residents could bring in their meatballs, and we're going to have local uh chefs judging uh judging their meatballs. uh downtown Point Beach, also known as the bid. We had a meeting last night. Um and we talked about uh we 386 02:41:33.359 --> 02:41:49.040 voted to uh hire a company to create a logo and we are evaluating three proposals from social media consultants to start doing a uh Facebook, Instagram, probably Tik Tok uh uh exposure. Uh I did miss the little league field. So, I 387 02:41:49.040 --> 02:42:05.600 met this afternoon with the president, vice president of the little league uh to talk about the work that they want to do on the uh with the grant money. Um there is a travel baseball team from the burrow that comes in uh in August. Um the recommendation was to have them play 388 02:42:05.600 --> 02:42:21.439 somewhere else this year so we could get uh the field people in to start working on the fields. There's a lot of work that needs to be done to most of the fields there. Um, and then we talked about uh covering to the to the bullpens to keep the sun out. Uh, and more importantly, uh, netting. Uh, if you've 389 02:42:21.439 --> 02:42:36.479 been in the in the in the little league park, um, there's foul balls that come out from all different fields and you're dodging bullets. So, to have some sort of netting on all the fields to to avoid that. Um, they did have some recommendations to the open space committee um, more so with the with the 390 02:42:36.479 --> 02:42:53.280 um, the structure there um, and some other things, the drainage. Uh, so I will send an email over to the open space chair to take a look at that. >> And mayor, those those improvements to the little league field, was that from that the grant money that we got? >> That was from the grant. >> That's great. Good. Okay. >> All grant. Uh, chamber of commerce needs 391 02:42:53.280 --> 02:43:10.399 volunteers for the seafood fest. If interested, reach out to Carol and there's three library events they wanted me to talk about. Monday, August 17th from 6:30 to 7:30, they have 250 years of American music. Uh it's an interactive multimedia talk provides a 392 02:43:10.399 --> 02:43:26.160 look at the iconic music that helps us understand our shared history as we approach the 250th anniversary of American independence. Registration is required and I cut off the other two but oh here they are. Uh Friday ask a master 393 02:43:26.160 --> 02:43:42.000 gardener Friday August 28th from 1 to 3 drop in anytime and talk to a master gardener from the Ruckers Master Gardeners of Ocean County. And then finally, I thought this one was kind of cool. Wednesday, September 2nd from 3:00 to 4, they have chocolate tasting bingo. 394 02:43:42.000 --> 02:43:57.760 So you could discover new flavors of chocolate during a delicious [clears throat] round of bingo. Uh so that's all I have. I don't want to get too long into the sea streak. We are running late because of the background check, but I'll allow you to make a comment or two, but I don't want to get into a whole detail. 395 02:43:57.760 --> 02:44:13.359 >> I want to comment at that and about the America 250 too real quick. I do the [clears throat] America 250 first. Um, it sounds like there's going to be a,000 or $2,000 left over from the money you got, donations. What's going to happen to the money that's left over? Where does it go? >> So, we're going to decide that as a 396 02:44:13.359 --> 02:44:28.399 committee, but we may want to buy some permanent more banners or some permanent uh decorations for the town, maybe beautifification. >> I had a conversation with Councilwoman Stilerson today and she informed me of 397 02:44:28.399 --> 02:44:46.479 where you got some of these donations and Two of them I found very disturbing. I know they were voluntarily given, but I would hope that if you have extra money left over that you could return that money to the Valentine House and the 398 02:44:46.479 --> 02:45:02.240 gifts from the heart. Both these are nonprofits. We deal with people with disabilities between housing them and making uh small trinkets and uh items for the public to buy to help these kids and adults, you 399 02:45:02.240 --> 02:45:18.160 know, with their uh disabilities and give them programs to go to. I would hope that you could return the $250 back to each one of these. Uh >> that's fine. We'll make the offer >> because it's it's they're not making a lot uh the gift from the heart. She's 400 02:45:18.160 --> 02:45:34.640 not making a lot of money there. $250 is a lot of money for she could use for those people. So that's just my recommendation. I don't know how anyone else feels about it, but I >> It's very nice to donate though. >> It should be it should be given back to them. >> Uh as far as the sea streak, uh 401 02:45:34.640 --> 02:45:49.200 obviously we had a nice robust discussion in the back room about it. [laughter] Um I find it very disturbing. [clears throat and cough] We voted on it. Whether you for against it, the council voted against it. 402 02:45:49.200 --> 02:46:04.399 Um, apparently that wasn't good enough. You went on to social media and lambasted me, Kitty and Andy as being [clears throat] anti-Point pleasant, anti- business, anti- everything >> that were bad people for doing what we 403 02:46:04.399 --> 02:46:22.080 did. So, I guess that didn't end there either. Now, for the last month, you've been meeting with county officials telling them how you would like to get the sea streak back. Well, for the last month, well, I can only speak for myself, and I'm pretty sure everybody up here knew 404 02:46:22.080 --> 02:46:38.800 nothing about it. >> I think that's terrible. We voted no. You had conversations with the county for the last month, [clears throat] never told us anything about it. the county heard one side of a story, which is yours, and yours is that 405 02:46:38.800 --> 02:46:56.560 you're all for it, and never really checked into how our meetings went, why we voted against it. And it wasn't like Andy's have said numerous times up there. Wasn't about the boat, it was about the process. So now the county got involved. 406 02:46:56.560 --> 02:47:13.920 this guy uh Commissioner Arace whatever his name is from Manchester apparently he thinks he knows better what Point Pleasant Beach should be doing instead of the people who are elected to be officials here and he's all for pushing the sea streak to come here now I find it hard to believe that 407 02:47:13.920 --> 02:47:30.800 that was on his radar this whole time that he was paying attention to Point Pleasant Beach how he dealt with the sea streak obviously in my opinion it was put in his head and they ran with it if you looked at their agenda from the county meeting the other day. It was like number 60 on their agenda. So that 408 02:47:30.800 --> 02:47:47.200 means it was put on the last minute and now we're on his bum's rush to get the county to okay the sea streak back in the area where our town denied it because it doesn't fit there and it's 409 02:47:47.200 --> 02:48:03.359 against so many variances, rules, regulations, and somehow they have this special immunity that they don't have to listen to anything that our town says they don't have to abide by any of our zoning laws and they're going to put this in 410 02:48:03.359 --> 02:48:18.399 there and try to give them a three-day thing. So, in the meantime, some of us got in touch with some of the county officials and gave them the what the heck are you guys doing and now they're uh and some of the 411 02:48:18.399 --> 02:48:33.040 responses from my understanding were well this isn't this isn't we didn't really know about that. This isn't really what we were told. So now they're kind of backtracking on and you mentioned well now they want to 412 02:48:33.040 --> 02:48:50.479 put it to the the people to decide. So I I I just think it's terrible that you your lack of communication with the council was well known. You've been complaining about it since day one. [snorts] Um 413 02:48:50.479 --> 02:49:08.080 this sea streak thing was an open wound with a lot of town. A lot of people want it. A lot of people didn't want it and it kind of healed over a little bit and you're just opening it up again because you're dead set for some reason. You're dead set on getting this thing to come here whether like people like or not. 414 02:49:08.080 --> 02:49:23.760 And I I know you said it'd be good for the business, but what about for the people? How about for the people? 80% of the property taxes in this town are being paid by residents of the town, not the businesses. I think their voices are a little more important than the 415 02:49:23.760 --> 02:49:40.399 businesses. And for them to come on the weekend, it's a it to me it's a joke. I mean, the place the town is packed on the weekend. The restaurants are packed on the weekend. The hotels are packed on the weekend. We don't need any extra more people coming into town. And and those poor people that live over there 416 02:49:40.399 --> 02:49:56.960 on Inlet Drive who came in here and had the courage to come up here and give their opinion. And they weren't against the vote either, but they didn't like the idea that they were going to come in, do what they want, not have to fit go to any zoning laws, not have to abide [clears throat] by any of our rules, and 417 02:49:56.960 --> 02:50:12.560 they would just get an open door and off they go. I've never heard, and I know anyone else who has a business out here, they'll probably laugh about this. I have never heard a business come into a town and say, "I don't want to follow any rules. I don't want to put in any 418 02:50:12.560 --> 02:50:29.359 permits. I don't want any inspections, but I want to come in, run my business, and see if it works out okay for me. And if it does, we'll be back, and then we'll take care of that. But if it doesn't, we're just going to go away. I've never heard of that. It's insane. And now that the county got involved, 419 02:50:29.359 --> 02:50:46.560 hopefully they'll uh they'll deal with it with whatever they're doing. It's just it's just disturbing that you had meetings with them for a month. You're getting one side of the story. Obviously, you're very biased towards it. And now you're talking about meeting with two other council people here. And 420 02:50:46.560 --> 02:51:02.880 obviously everyone knows I was probably the loudest voice against how this whole process was done. And believe it or not, folks, I'm not one of the people that going to be invited to that meeting because they don't want to hear what I have to say about it. And it's just it's just absurd. And your obsession with 421 02:51:02.880 --> 02:51:18.479 this is bizarre. So, >> okay. >> Now, I'm done. >> All right. Uh I'll just end with two points. A I mean I think again I've said it thousand times. the residents have said it a thousand times. It's good for the town. It's good for the businesses. It's good for the visitors. That's what 422 02:51:18.479 --> 02:51:34.560 we're elected up here to do. And then the number the second point I'll make is I have meetings uh almost every day that I don't tell the council on until there's a time when it's time to tell the council. I'm leaving at that. We're not having any more discussion. I'm going to turn it over to Joe. Joe, do 423 02:51:34.560 --> 02:51:50.160 you have anything else that Andy didn't cover? >> Yeah. [laughter] Hold on. I'd like to comment on >> No, I said we're >> Well, you can't tell me what I can't talk about up the desk, Doug. So, I know you like to be king, but that's not how it works. >> I'm the mayor, so I run the meeting. >> I understand that. 424 02:51:50.160 --> 02:52:04.880 >> So, we moved on a job. >> Okay. >> So, that's half the problem because you don't communicate with any of us. That's why this whole sea streak thing is a mess to begin with. >> Um, they were, yes, phone calls were made. >> Okay. 425 02:52:04.880 --> 02:52:21.920 >> Yes, things were done. Um, and yes, they were done inappropriately, improperly, in my opinion, and some other council people's opinion. And yes, I probably will be one of those people invited to the meeting. Um, yes, I do want Sea Street to come here. Yes, planning board said that the inlet was a bad spot. I 426 02:52:21.920 --> 02:52:36.560 agree with them on that, that it's a bad spot. There's other options for them to come here. I'll try to work with them to come here, but there is a process. I understand that it's a unique business. We don't we've never had a ferry service 427 02:52:36.560 --> 02:52:53.520 here in town. Um so they do have to do some test runs. So I understand that and it it needs that that kind of needs to happen for it to make sense so they can actually do more runs. We've never had a business like that. So I understand there's some leeway [clears throat] on 428 02:52:53.520 --> 02:53:10.319 certain things to make that happen. But the entire lack of discussion and not saying anything to all of us for months, it's like constantly happening. That's why >> Yeah. All they have to do is put an I don't know why they don't just put an 429 02:53:10.319 --> 02:53:25.200 application in >> and get go through the normal routes. When people get on the sea streak, they have an expectation that it's going to be safe for them. That's the expectation in the United States of America. like I mean just go through the normal 430 02:53:25.200 --> 02:53:41.920 procedure you know I'm not land use I don't know anything about it it's like asking me to look at architecture plans and being like oh is this house stable you know that's why we have a board of adjustment and then also the planning board I believe this would have been a board of adjustment thing but I don't know why they just don't do that 431 02:53:41.920 --> 02:53:57.279 >> they knew they >> okay are we are we ready to move on >> they knew >> Joe >> all right thank you um on item 3E uh is uh first aid's annual contribution. Um 432 02:53:57.279 --> 02:54:12.800 it's $40,000. They this is a annual contribution that the bureau makes. Uh the first aid they own their own building and they actually own their own ambulances. They do all the purchasing and equipment through the first aid squad. So that is the only money that the burrow actually pays uh 433 02:54:12.800 --> 02:54:28.560 them as a contribution. [clears throat] 3F and 3G. Uh it's, you know, half that. And the reason behind that is, uh, the fire companies, both of them, they own their own buildings. However, we own the fire trucks. We purchase all the 434 02:54:28.560 --> 02:54:44.479 equipment, uh, as you know. So, um, that's what that's about. Item 1 M uh STV channel drive uh the bill for 80,000 uh plus uh that's uh engineer services rendered from January 31st uh of this 435 02:54:44.479 --> 02:55:00.720 year to the present time. Uh that's for the channel driver revitalization project. Um and this is uh we do have a grant for this. So that money will be reimbursed through the grant once the project um begins uh to actually start. 436 02:55:00.720 --> 02:55:16.000 Uh JCPNL uh 91 street lights we reported out uh last week. I had the chief go out and uh check the lights and uh as of today 32 have been repaired. Uh, I'd like to extend my sincere thanks 437 02:55:16.000 --> 02:55:33.439 to the volunteer dive team from the first aid squad that generously donated their time and effort to clean up Little Silver Lake. Uh, after I received multiple complaints regarding garbage accumulating in the lake, uh, these volunteers stepped up to remove a significant amount of debris and their 438 02:55:33.439 --> 02:55:49.520 commitment to keeping our community beautiful is greatly appreciated. I did post something uh, on our website thanking them as well. Thank you. >> Department of Public Works recently repainted the crosswalk on Woodlin Avenue in Arnold based on complaints that was uh you guys received at your 439 02:55:49.520 --> 02:56:05.520 forum. Uh hopefully that improves the visibility, enhance pedestrian safety. I also contacted New Jersey Department of Transportation request that the intersection of Route 35 South Man Avenue be painted with a like that blocking do not block intersection 440 02:56:05.520 --> 02:56:22.319 similar to um we have on 35 South and Arnold. uh this pavement marking will provide a clear visual reminder to motorists not to block the intersection. Um I got a response back that the uh they're processing the the request and I haven't heard back yet. >> Okay. Thank you. >> I've asked our bar engineer to begin 441 02:56:22.319 --> 02:56:37.439 evaluating a redesign of Hennessy Way. Hennessy Way is a roadway directly in front of Bar Hall. Um primary plans call for converting the roadway to oneway south from New Jersey Avenue. Um, this proposed traffic pattern change is being considered in anticipation of the new 442 02:56:37.439 --> 02:56:53.600 traffic light that's going up at the New Jersey and 35. It's going up pretty rapidly. So, >> um, right now the oneway sign says it's that way. >> It's got to be fixed. We got to reconfigure parking spots and this has to be reconfigured to one way. So, 443 02:56:53.600 --> 02:57:10.080 >> that was approved by resolution back in >> Oh, yeah. >> 2017, I believe. >> And then, uh, so I'll have Ray look into that. And then finally, uh, one of our local volunteer firefighters, I think, >> uh, requested permission to paint several fire hydrants red, white, and 444 02:57:10.080 --> 02:57:26.640 blue to commemorate our nation's 250th anniversary. The locations will mainly be along Arnold and Ocean Avenue. Uh, the fire department has no objection to the project and uh, there you should be seeing newly painted fire hydrants. Um, 445 02:57:26.640 --> 02:57:46.000 not all of them, a handful of them. Uh he said he'll have them done by the next by the end of the month. >> Cool. And that's my report. >> Thank you, Eileen. >> Okay. So, there were some changes added today [clears throat] 446 02:57:46.000 --> 02:58:02.399 as far as the executive session. Item D was just a duplicate of item um B, but there was an additional uh topic added at the meeting, legal issues, county of Ocean. Uh then 447 02:58:02.399 --> 02:58:24.560 the discussion on the background checks was added as an executive session item. And then this afternoon, let's see, 2J was removed, not yet ready, and 2L 448 02:58:24.560 --> 02:58:40.800 was added. And that's it. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh, all right. We'll do first public participation. So, anything on the agenda or ordinances? Uh, and it's a fivem minute time limit. Please state 449 02:58:40.800 --> 02:59:09.520 your name and address. Dave, [clears throat] >> good evening. Dave Keanero, 118 Parkway. [cough and clears throat] Uh, 1B, who's the transfer >> to and from? Yes. 450 02:59:09.520 --> 02:59:26.240 >> What do you want to know? >> Who's it going from and who's it going to? >> I think the people are sitting in the audience. >> Okay. >> It's the Broadway bar and grill. >> Thank you. >> So, it's an internal transfer. >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Mother, 451 02:59:26.240 --> 02:59:40.240 >> I'm sorry. >> It was revised. It uh Dave, it was revised because it didn't show a closing date for the >> which is August 5th. Uh, >> right. Sorry. Am I right? See, thank you. 452 02:59:40.240 --> 03:00:03.200 >> 2F. [clears throat] >> Come on. What else you got? >> Lost it. [laughter] >> 2F. >> 2Ford. >> I'm sorry. You explained that already. Uh, ordinance 20 2620. 453 03:00:03.200 --> 03:00:21.040 Is this going to affect homes that want to make changes if they are considered historical? >> Are there historical home >> once they go into the master plan? Does that affect them as historical [clears throat] structures where they 454 03:00:21.040 --> 03:00:40.160 need special permission to make changes? >> What' you say? 2620. >> The sanitary sewer. >> Ordinance B. [snorts] >> Oh, I'm sorry. It's a bond ordinance. >> Yeah. >> Bond >> ordinance bond ord. >> Sorry. >> 19. 455 03:00:40.160 --> 03:00:53.920 >> Oh, >> no. Then I misread it. I'm sorry. >> Okay. Me confused. >> Last one. I thought C streak was done with. I appreciate 456 03:00:53.920 --> 03:01:10.080 businesses may want to have a test run, but after almost six months of them not submitting permits, nobody should have the right to bypass the laws of Point Pleasant Beach. And if the county wants to come in and 457 03:01:10.080 --> 03:01:25.359 throw their weight around to do that, my suggestion to the residents of Point Pleasant Beach, make a list of who those county people are if they do it and vote them out of office. and I hope you reconsider any decision you made before reconsidering this 458 03:01:25.359 --> 03:01:51.200 again. Thank you. >> Thank you. Who's next? >> Rob Clayton 109 Chicago. Uh 1 D >> 1 B >> D is David. >> Yeah. What is that for? 459 03:01:51.200 --> 03:02:07.520 >> Uh that was the uh there was some uh statutes going around about law enforcement and uh federal law enforcement and local law enforcement with immigration uh urging just to keep uh to keep law enforcement and federal 460 03:02:07.520 --> 03:02:23.840 law enforcement cooperating on public safety for the towns. >> Okay. Um 1 P. Um is that costing any money to the town? 461 03:02:23.840 --> 03:02:42.560 >> The open house? >> Yeah. >> No. >> No. >> Joe, correct me. Right. They're not We're not incurring any charges for >> the [clears throat] open house of historical. >> Nope. >> Okay. Uh, I do [laughter] 462 03:02:42.560 --> 03:03:01.359 uh lost my Oh, two um D. >> Two >> D. >> Yeah, D. >> D as in dog. >> I can speak to that a little bit if you'd like. >> Go ahead. >> Go ahead. Rob, you might reme recall at 463 03:03:01.359 --> 03:03:17.040 the last council meeting, um, I brought up a grant and I think it was for like $70,000. If [clears throat] if you don't, I brought it up. Um, well, it turns out that that grant had been awarded a few years ago, but it kind of went dormant. And then after that meeting, um, I had conversations with 464 03:03:17.040 --> 03:03:32.560 the, uh, the historical commission, the guys who are working on, um, the Coast Guard station, and with, uh, Kristen Oor, and it turns out that we were able to use this. Wait a second. When which is it to you? For a historic 465 03:03:32.560 --> 03:03:47.760 architectural survey and historic element to master plan. So we're looking for a company. Surprisingly there's not a lot of companies who do that work, but we're looking for a company to come into our town, evaluate and see which, you 466 03:03:47.760 --> 03:04:04.080 know, which buildings are historical and then that will give us an historical architectural survey. That's the first step into then looking for other grant money for projects and I know all sorts of benefits that uh that we would be 467 03:04:04.080 --> 03:04:19.439 getting from having that. It's kind of like we do the same with the shade tree. We get like an a tree inventory for the town and then we know what trees need to be cut down, what needs to be pruned, what not. This is the same so we know what buildings are historical in our town. >> Okay. 468 03:04:19.439 --> 03:04:35.359 >> And paid for by grant money that was just dormant. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Um 3 D as in dog. [laughter] >> Are those uh replacements for this summer or new hires for next summer? >> That's for next summer. 469 03:04:35.359 --> 03:04:52.880 >> For next summer. Okay. And oh, the uh sea streak. Will there be a uh another um public, you know, participation or meeting, you know, with that? Like is >> we'll have to see how that progresses. Yeah. Is the county going to come here 470 03:04:52.880 --> 03:05:09.760 and give the opportunity to hear the uh not only the council but the public as well? >> We'll see how that progresses. I don't know the answer right now. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> Thank you. Y >> thank you. >> Who's next on first public hearing? None. Can I get a motion to close first public? 471 03:05:09.760 --> 03:05:26.720 >> I'll make that motion. >> Second. [clears throat] >> All in favor? >> I >> I. >> And can I get a motion to adopt the consent resolution one, two, and three? Make a motion. Second. [clears throat] 472 03:05:26.720 --> 03:05:43.040 >> There's there's one I'd like to um carve out just for myself. >> You know, I need a little handling with the process. It's that one D because I didn't have a chance to read that over. >> What? >> Yeah. One one. 473 03:05:43.040 --> 03:05:59.120 >> It was in the packet. I I know. I just, you know, it's on it's on me, but I didn't have a chance to read it. I you know I just didn't have a chance to read it over. So >> So what do you want to do with that >> for just me from my vote? >> So would you then just abstain from the vote? >> So you're not going to cover. Okay. 474 03:05:59.120 --> 03:06:17.049 >> Yes. >> Okay. Councilman Dixon. >> Roll call on the consent. >> Council Ramos. >> Yes. >> Councilman Gant. >> Yes. Could I please abstain from 3D as in dog? 475 03:06:17.049 --> 03:06:32.479 >> [laughter] >> and three H. >> Council Silson. >> Yes. And I'm abstaining from 1D. >> As in dog. >> As in dog. [laughter] Say it. Yes. Say it. Councilman Cortez. >> Yes. 476 03:06:32.479 --> 03:06:54.120 >> I don't abstain on anything. [clears throat] >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> There's two ordinances on the agenda. The first one is the second reading of ordinance 202619 and that is 477 03:06:55.120 --> 03:07:12.399 authorizing vacation of a portion of the municipal rightway upon block 94.02 and 94.01 lots 20 and one. And we'll open that up to public discussion. Hearing none. Can I get a motion to close and adopt? 478 03:07:12.399 --> 03:07:31.680 >> Yeah, I'll make that motion. >> Second. >> Councilman Dixon, >> yes. >> Council Ramos, >> yes. >> Councilman K, >> yes. >> Counciloman Silison, >> yes. >> And Councilman Cortez, >> yes. >> Okay. So, that ordinance has been adopted. 479 03:07:31.680 --> 03:07:48.720 Next there's ordinance on first reading ordinance 2026-20 an ordinance of the burrow of Point Pleasant Beach in the county of Ocean New Jersey providing for the replacement of sanitary sewer infrastructure along Randall Avenue and appropriating 1,700,000 therefore and authorizing the issuance 480 03:07:48.720 --> 03:08:07.520 of $1,700,000 in bonds or notes to the burrow [clears throat] of Point Pleasant Beach to finance the cost thereof. >> Can I get a motion to introduce? >> Make a motion. Second. >> Council Dixon, >> yes. >> Council Ramos, >> yes. >> Councilman Gant, >> yes. 481 03:08:07.520 --> 03:08:25.399 >> Council Silson, >> yes. >> Councilman Cortez, >> yes. >> And the public hearing will be on September 1st. >> Okay, we'll open it up to second public participation. Anything you'd like to talk about? Three minute time frame. EJ 482 03:08:28.640 --> 03:08:45.080 EJ Gigger, 115 Arnold Avenue. This will be real quick. Um, when you're looking at the pro, they're asking Jay Tree and DPW look at the divider on Parkway. >> Right >> down at right by Boston and Parkway, 483 03:08:45.080 --> 03:08:59.920 [clears throat] >> there's a large shrubbery as Monty Python would call it. >> Yeah. Um, and if you're coming south on Boston, you have to come all the way out across the westbound lane to see if 484 03:08:59.920 --> 03:09:16.000 there's a car coming. >> Is that on the the northeast corner of Boston Parkway? >> 200. >> I know the family. I know the woman. >> No, it's not on It's in the middle. >> It's in the middle divider. >> Is that in the pro like the 300 block? 485 03:09:16.000 --> 03:09:33.760 >> No, it's the start of the 200 block. >> Yes. So, it's Austin and Parkway >> and it's probably about >> 40t up, but you got to inch out an inch out and inch out. Even walking the dog sometimes. I mean, Dave, you walk your dog there, June. I see her nodding. 486 03:09:33.760 --> 03:09:50.640 >> It's like you can't see what's coming. >> Okay. >> So, thanks. >> If they're going to trim something, >> trim that, please. >> Thank you. >> Remove it. You're sorry. >> That's why it's important [clears throat] our residents are the eyes. >> I hope people don't want to remove trees. At least trim it. You said it's a bush. Move it to >> not It's a strawberry, not a truck. 487 03:09:50.640 --> 03:10:15.120 >> You said it was the bush. >> Got it. >> All right. Who's next? >> Dave. >> Good evening again, Dave Cavaniro. Uh, Coastg Guard station. Does it have a CO? 488 03:10:15.120 --> 03:10:30.240 >> Does it have a CO now? the Coast Guard? >> No, it doesn't. >> Terrible question to ask, but is there a liability issue if you're having people come in for sight C? >> Mike, I would ask you to opine on that. 489 03:10:30.240 --> 03:10:46.240 >> I I believe the intent is to not to occupy it, but in order to kind of facilitate some sort of public availment of it. Um, I'll defer to the burrow on how it's going to structure it. It's I'm not involved in that, but 490 03:10:46.240 --> 03:11:02.160 Um, >> another one of those safety issues. Uh, there was mention of a lot of different stores in town that didn't have a CEO. Do they all have CEOs now? >> I doubt all, but I can tell you that 491 03:11:02.160 --> 03:11:19.120 I've worked with Brian Martin and that uh letters were going out to those owners to request compliance and >> and from those businesses. And uh I think we'll re-evaluate to see what response we get and then to determine what to do with those who haven't 492 03:11:19.120 --> 03:11:35.600 responded to the letter. >> Is there a timeline? >> I believe the letters went out. I would say we're >> they're going out week. Yeah, we we we we there was an internal making sure that the letter said the appropriate things which I did sign off on it. So those will go out. We'll set a time frame and then figure out what to do 493 03:11:35.600 --> 03:11:51.120 with those who >> said like in a month they should it'll be something like that. >> Yeah. >> Okay. There's I think there's approximately 60 six businesses and 70 homes. >> Oh boy. >> Yeah, I think I gave you the correct number when we had the uh town hall 494 03:11:51.120 --> 03:12:07.680 event, >> but yes, they've been uh being addressed >> and you're worried about axe murderers on the committees. Uh >> just worried about you, Dave. >> Newsletter. To sign up for the newsletter, when I looked, you have to 495 03:12:07.680 --> 03:12:23.439 use a cell phone. Is there any other way to sign up for it? >> Oh, there should be an email sign up. >> I didn't see anything there. Just list an email. [clears throat] >> So, >> I need to look at the website to navigate, but I could send you an email with the steps. >> Okay. Thank you. 496 03:12:23.439 --> 03:12:47.120 >> Yeah, there's a popup right as soon as you go in. >> Yep. >> As soon as you go to the website now. Thank you, Junior. Yeah, they just added the popup. Okay. >> Email me if you can't do it and I'll help you. >> Who's next? >> [clears throat] >> Grant Kitchman, 346 River Avenue. Just 497 03:12:47.120 --> 03:13:04.399 have a question about uh the building at the uh end of River and Arnold Avenue, the old Mccclaclin building. Uh besides being an eyesore, it's now becoming a safety issue. They're now storing materials on River Avenue. I just came 498 03:13:04.399 --> 03:13:21.200 by tonight and there's scaffolding leaning up against the building. What's going on with that building? >> Uh I mean we've had uh the burough attorney's been involved. We had code enforcement involved. The construction office were trying to get him to to move quicker than he is to do to finish that 499 03:13:21.200 --> 03:13:36.960 building. Uh I don't know what's going to be there. There were some renderings that were uh circulated on social media. Um but we are on top of that. Uh but I will look at the safety issue. We'll reach out to code enforcement in the morning. Does code enforcement work on weekends? >> They do >> because that's the only time they work. 500 03:13:36.960 --> 03:13:53.200 They don't work during the week. They work on weekends. They work on Fourth of July. >> I know. We've called the We've actually called the police uh several weekends to get them to come down and and stop them. >> Do you know if any summons have been issued? >> Uh I would have to check with code enforcement. There are summones. There's been a long list of summones issued. I'm 501 03:13:53.200 --> 03:14:09.359 not exactly sure for what, but there has been summones issued. >> There's also been a litigation to enforce the penalties associated with the summones. So, right. So, there's been a there's plenty of legal action that the burrow has been, like I said, >> but I understand. I mean, it's an eyesore. I mean, >> the the aesthetic of it is one thing, 502 03:14:09.359 --> 03:14:25.920 but now, like I said, they're storing materials on River Avenue. >> And when I came by tonight, there's scaffolding leaning up against the building. >> From what I understand is that they were told by code enforcement to put the scaffolding up to cover the sidewalk so that people, you know, if anything, 503 03:14:25.920 --> 03:14:40.800 it's leaning against the building. It's not up. It's not erected. It's leaning. So, a kid walks by and just pulls on it, you know. >> Okay. Apparently, the company might have delivered the scaffolding and they didn't erect it yet. But I'm just telling you, from what I understand, code enforcement [clears throat] 504 03:14:40.800 --> 03:14:58.479 told them to erect scaffolding to cover the sidewalk like they do in the city when they're working. So, I'm I'm I'm sure they the company might have delivered it right there. >> Like I said, they don't work during the week. >> They got to start this weekend. Yeah, exactly. >> They'll they'll do it on S. Isn't there an ordinance 4th of July? After the 4th 505 03:14:58.479 --> 03:15:17.840 of July, there's no construction on weekends and weekends. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> Okay. [clears throat] Thank you. >> Thank you. But we're on top of it. >> Who's next? >> Larry, [clears throat] Larry Schwarz, St. Louis Avenue. 506 03:15:17.840 --> 03:15:34.479 Regarding the sea streak, uh, Councilman Gant, you were the only member of the council not to attend the meeting when the vote was taken on the ordinance. If you had attended the meeting, how would you have voted? 507 03:15:34.479 --> 03:15:50.319 >> Um, >> I'm not sure, Larry, because I wasn't there during the thing. Um, I do want the sea streak to come here. Uh, I'm still talking to the sea street people to try to get them 508 03:15:50.319 --> 03:16:07.439 to put in their paperwork. Um, my stance was when I first mentioned that I want would like them to run a pilot program here. I think I was the deciding vote that night that kept it alive. Um, and they had three weeks to submit the 509 03:16:07.439 --> 03:16:24.640 paperwork and they didn't. Um, so based on that, my vote probably would have been no that night because they did they didn't do anything. Um, but I'm trying to get them to submit their paperwork. That seems to be the hiccup 510 03:16:24.640 --> 03:16:40.319 that and the location. [clears throat] Um, but I would love to see the sea streak here. >> Okay. So, you probably would have you're saying you would have voted no >> because they haven't they had three weeks to submit stuff. So, I was just curious because you you weren't there. >> No, I wasn't there. 511 03:16:40.319 --> 03:17:02.800 >> Okay. >> Sorry. >> Thank you. >> Anybody else? Rob. >> Rob Clayton, 109 Chicago. Um, you said code enforcement is working on the weekends, right? Um, do you know if there's been any summones for um, 512 03:17:02.800 --> 03:17:19.680 construction or parking on your lawn, your front lawn or anything like this last couple weekends? >> I don't know the summon breakdown. We We'll have to get that from code enforcement. >> Okay. Um, is there parking uh, behind the band shell? >> Behind the band shell on the grass? 513 03:17:19.680 --> 03:17:34.399 >> Yeah. >> Only during I mean if there's special events >> then the bands pull up there to unload, but there's not permanent parking back there. So like after they unload they can't park there. >> Uh we usually let them stay there so that it's easy it's easy offloading. 514 03:17:34.399 --> 03:17:53.920 >> Okay. Um so the uh the council meeting the next council meeting that we're supposed to have was canceled. Correct. >> Um how many people are going to the uh the silly uh nonresident taxpayer meeting >> uh from the days? 515 03:17:53.920 --> 03:18:10.720 >> Yeah. uh myself and Councilman Ramos I think um and then uh you know the police chief, fire chief, EMS, Ray Sabol, Brian Martin. >> So instead of canceling the meeting, you know uh for I guess regular taxpayers, why didn't you just cancel that meeting 516 03:18:10.720 --> 03:18:26.000 and have them come here? >> It's hard to do on a on a week night for the non-residents who are only here on weekends. >> Okay. Well, can you pass along that, you know, make sure that they, you know, shovel their snow, you know, during the winter time on their sidewalks? >> We will talk about that. 517 03:18:26.000 --> 03:18:41.040 >> When is that? It's on my agenda. >> When is that meeting? >> May they fill the >> I wasn't invited. >> Yeah. >> I wasn't invited that. When is that meeting? >> Uh, it's I got to look at the calendar. It's August 18th maybe. I don't know. >> Um, 518 03:18:41.040 --> 03:18:56.880 I know Verizon, just from personal um experience, Verizon is walking around. um you know the guys are you know seem to be you know like okay you know as far as the information and everything but just um from personal experience for anybody that's signing up just make sure 519 03:18:56.880 --> 03:19:13.200 you look over everything that they're uh they're offering um because I had an issue and I know several other people have had you know issues you know with it um so anybody that you know is signing up because I've had to call Verizon several times and what the people are going around are telling you 520 03:19:13.200 --> 03:19:29.279 are not exactly what's you know uh regular Verizon is going to offer you when you call up >> if they offer you something. Um and the reason why they're they're offering you at least one gig um is because they get more money contractually, you know, through the company that they're working 521 03:19:29.279 --> 03:19:45.600 for. Um but apparently there's no difference between one gig and 300. Um I'm not a tech geek, whatever. But um you can call up and and lower that, you know, uh if you want. >> Okay. Um, 522 03:19:45.600 --> 03:20:04.080 and then my last thing is, um, I'm hoping that maybe, uh, one morning, uh, one of the class twos or guys on on patrol can, um, keep an eye on the area of Ocean Avenue and or the 523 03:20:04.080 --> 03:20:21.520 first house on the left of Bowling Green and look for the gentleman that's walking two corgis, not leashed, always on the boardwalk. talk and not picking up after his dog. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> And just for I guess cuz I'm an 524 03:20:21.520 --> 03:20:41.600 alternate on the um board of adjustment. I stole a G.I. Joe when I was six. [laughter] >> All right. Who's next? Seeing nobody uh make a motion to >> motion to close. >> Close. >> Second. >> All in favor? I 525 03:20:41.600 --> 03:21:14.319 >> I motion >> confession is good for the soul. [laughter] >> Second I'll second >> I love those. I absolutely love those multiolors. >> Graduated 89 from >> Yep. But of course, I was obviously 526 03:21:14.319 --> 03:21:43.680 friends with a lot of the kids here because we all kind of mix and then >> Yeah, I was charged my phone twice. >> Why? Why am I funny? What did I say tonight that was funny? >> Come on. 527 03:21:43.680 --> 03:21:56.319 >> Wait. >> He's minding the story, huh? >> Yeah. You read it. So, I don't know. >> Sorry. Hold on. You boy.