towards me a little bit. >> I actually print it out. Hello. >> The live stream's on. He'll give a budget >> live checking it now. I'll double check. >> Yeah, we're live.
>> Okay. I'm trying to go across. We're ready when you >> advision of the open public meetings acted in the officially designated newspapers compil Here >> can I get a motion to go into executive
session please? >> Circumstances of the opinion such circumstances presently exist. Therefore resolved by council for speech county motion state as follows. Public shall be excluded from discussions concerning the hearing subject matter subject matter discusses
as follows. Legal issues county open space acquisition regulations. It is anticipated that the subject matter discussed may be made public. Yes, >> I will take one actually. >> I forgot.
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You're in trouble. >> That's dead. Excellent. blinking stop. >> But the light turned my house. >> I see. They put the new uh >> they put the new light Yeah, I was thinking
>> why. >> So when you go in >> west it's on the south side. >> But you can see it coming. >> Yeah, I'll have to check it out. I don't know how high those are.
>> I don't know. The Saturday that after I saw you, I stopped over. >> Yeah, I know. >> So, he's back. Yeah, we had a whole discussion about it,
but I guess >> he told us that. Yeah, I mean I guess that >> Yeah, we'll stop that over. >> I don't know what Two nights in a I got one. What's going on?
>> Good. How are we? >> I mean, as soon as we're settled, we can go and place this meeting under theision of the Open Act and the officially designated newspapers in compiance with the law. here
>> here. >> Please rise for the flag salute and remain standing for communication to the flag of the United States of America to the stands nation. >> It is most appropriate that this country
is founded on the religious freedom for people that we take for guidance. First we shared particular appeaching. >> All right. Good evening everybody and uh happy St. Patrick's Day. Uh, can I get
an approval of minutes for the March 3rd executive session, please? >> Dixon. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Thank you. Can I get an approval of minutes for the March 3rd council meeting, please?
>> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh so we have a couple of discussions on the agenda tonight. First one being the open space trust fund. Uh Councilman Dixon, I'm going to turn it over to you to kick us off on that.
>> Okay. I brought this up, I don't know, a couple meeting or two ago. Um when we had the reevaluation, uh obviously most of our houses either doubled or tripled in value. Now that our tax rate obviously lowered, but our
open space tax rate didn't lower with it. It's still at 1%. So everybody who had their houses valued at 500,000 and now a million, you're going to be paying double on your open space tax. And if it's, you know, their houses were three time obviously be three times even. So
what I wanted to do is I wanted to lower the open space tax to from a penny to a half cent. By doing it by a half cent, it will still bring in basically the same amount of money that we bring in now
and you won't get a you won't get doubled on your open space tax. So I think the average right now per household is around $60, but if we don't do this then it'll be 120. And I know it's not a lot of money, but
you know, I'd rather have $60 in my pocket than the government's pocket. And you know, a tank full of somebody and and usually the government's taking money. This is a chance that you know take more you save. Like I said, it's not a lot, but it helps. So that's my
proposal. I would like to uh reduce it down to >> I'll open that up to the council for any thoughts. I have one. I spoke with the final possible Open space money is used to
We wantce to get it back. I'm back. I would like to get the numbers >> to a half cent right now. Right now, in 2025, Kitty, um, the town bought in $28,181.
If we don't lower it, they're going to take $419,980 from the taxpayers of this town. Now, this is a this is a uh open spacing that there's always plenty of money in it. You know, personally, >> some of the stuff I see being talked
about with open space is I I don't think the town should be in the real estate business, and that's what it's going to turn into. We're going to have a boatload of money in this fund with a with a group of people who are going to turn around and say, "Oh, let's buy this, let's buy that." In the meantime, everything that gets bought that some
people may or may not agree with, that's just another ratable that's being taken off the rolls, which is made up by everybody else. So, I can't see adding double when we have plenty of money in there already and we're going to maintain what we have yearly now. So,
you're still going to have plenty of money in there. So, like I said, it's not a lot of money. The argument, okay, it's $5 a month, but you know what? I'd rather see in our residents pocket than the government because we'll just spend it on something that we don't need.
>> You can make it whatever you want. This first came up first. >> You sure? Do we know? >> Yeah, I'm sure the public's also a little curious because this was initially adopted by public >> referendum >> referendum. There I've looked at it and
we've kind of discussed this further in close session. Uh but essentially the statute in question NJSA4012-15.7 um under the statutory framework it allows the governing body to authorize a referendum and then it says that after
the referendum if it's successful the governing body may raise taxation by a sum not to exceed the amount or rate set forth in the proposition. So I think the not to exceed language would be what the governing body would rely upon to reduce
the rate from the 1 cent. So it was obviously authorized at 1 cent. If this not to exceed language is effectuated, you could produce 1 cent presumably and it would still fit within the >> we could do 75. That would
>> using that language. That would be my interpretation. >> Okay. >> Do we know what the surplus is now? So 800,000 we have >> Oh, that's the open spa. That's in the open space, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So we add go to go to half cent.
It's 2008,000. Yeah. So process This is all discussion for right now. >> And I just want to ask council council president again. I know you're on the hope space committee. From what I understand, there's a lot of opportunities that they're looking at.
Right. >> And I think I mean the public I would imagine would want to preserve some of the open space we have and not just put gradables and buildings all up and down our streets. So, okay. Any other comments or
>> discussion? My point is we're not losing any money. We're maintaining what we're already putting in every year. So we continue to maintain this ridiculous amount of surplus that we have. And the idea and I don't even get into the buying beaches. That's just crazy. But um
you know once enough's enough. I mean people just a lot of people just got hit with a big number on the reevaluation. Two three $4,000 increases. Like I said, I know this isn't a much, but you got to remember the county is doing the same thing to us. So, ours is going to go up double, and that's on average. So, let's
just say most people it's 100 bucks instead of only $60. That's $100 there. The counties didn't adjust theirs and that's going to be another $1, $120. So, you're just off the bat between us and the county just on open space, it's
going to be a $200 bill onto your tax bill this year extra. It's like, what are we doing here? We're going to get hit with some type of increase. Whether it's small or not, the school is going to hit us with some type of increase. We just got hit with a rebound. The county is going to hit us with an increase. So, what's it going to be? Another six,
seven, eight, $900 increase on our taxes. So, this is my whole point. I mean, like I said, the argument of the $60 or $5 a month, that could go either way. You want to give an extra 60 bucks, donate it then. But I'd rather keep it. That's my point.
>> To the end. >> Any other comments? And I would not want to take any action until we have both uh Councilman Ramos and Council Burns present. So >> um Okay. Anything else on that? I guess I could open up to the public, right?
Any any public want to comment on this? Uhoh. Next year it all year before 888,275 year before 66576926
1 million 239 argument is let's squeeze a little bit more in number Ocean County. Nope. >> At some point
of Thank you. EJ, you have something purchase. We're looking at properties that we already have. So it's not just purchasing properties and make them more enjoyable, more accessible to people.
I know got his numbers last night. But I think the numbers like everything. >> Okay. Thank you. Anybody else? Dan. I just like to say that in addense about
I don't want that money. So essentially that $60 is a lot more. Anybody else? Okay, we'll have further discussions uh in public. Um and again, we'll wait till uh both missing council members are here
to move forward. Uh all right, moving on to summer camp. And I will kick this off because I requested this on the agenda. Um, I've been heavily involved in summer camp and the rec committee since I became council four or five years ago.
Um, so summer camp is a herculean task uh through the rec committee. Um, there's a lot that goes into it. U, hiring the counselors, registering the campers, ordering supplies, making sure the park is in pristine condition. Um,
there's probably a ton more that that they do that I'm not aware of. Um, there's been talk in the past about separating summer camp from Wreck. Now, it would still fall under Wreck, but it would just be uh the director and assistant director kind of taking over.
Um, and there's benefits to that on both sides. There's more autonomy for the director and assistant director to kind of take control and own the camp process. Um, they could bring in the vendors. they could they have intimate knowledge of the kids and the parents,
so they could deal with all of that. Registering kids, registering kids that uh you know signed up late, registering kids that that come for a week. Um they're they're very intimate with all these kids. They've been doing this for a while. Um and on the rec side, well, and the other benefit is when they want
to purchase something, they would come for council approval and not have to go to wreck approval first, wait for their meeting to then be turned over to council. They could come right to the council and say, "Hey, I want to $200 for some markers or whatever. So, it's going to give them a little more
flexibility. And on the rec side, it's going to take the burden off of them to have to register all the kids. And again, they're not familiar on the day-to-day operations. They're not there every day. So, I thought it made sense and and Councilman Benton brought this up last year and I know it's been discussed in the past and I think it
makes sense. It's not that we're the rec committee is now turning it into an an adults only committee. They do have a ton of other events for kids, the Easter egg hunt, all the lessons they do, basketball camp, um, and and that list goes on. I think it just makes sense to
just take take the summer camp away from the the burden of the day-to-day wreck program. Um, and that's kind of what we proposed. I know Erica sent out a very good email, very detailed email, uh, that talked about some of the finances and the steps that would happen. Um, I'm
certainly in favor of it. I think it would make um again just an easy transition. It's not like much is going to change. There's there's not going to be more money spent. Um you know, they're going to they're going to have control over their vendors, the finances, the camp. Um you know, just last year, I think registration didn't
start until May or June because it's just all the red tape to get to that point through the rec committee and the council. Um you know, if we could move forward and and approve them either tonight or at the next meeting, they could start right away with getting campers in and our numbers will increase
from from last year where we had 51 residents and 17 non-residents. In years past, we'd have hundreds of kids. So, I think it makes sense. I wanted to open up to the uh to the council to to discuss this. Um to me, it's it's a
no-brainer, but I open up for anybody else's opinion. >> I have a question. So, would they report to Joe? >> So, that would probably be the likely report is to Joe So I believe they get they yeah they get salary based on how many hours and stuff
and they do need the pre hours to again order the supplies line up the vendors >> and those hours are >> yes we could we could whatever. >> So the right now there's a director and assistant director >> and it be for them plus then the
counselors they bring on and then the counselors they bring on is in a ratio how many campers they have >> this has to be approved. >> I would like to see it approved tonight. Uh this way they could start working to
um you know to to get flyers out to start bringing campers in. through money that comes in through. >> So I believe the salaries I think were paid through the bur. >> They were because they were they were >> the money for the money that comes in
from the camp. >> They was paying the money comes in from the camp is paying all the salaries. >> Okay. >> Basically should be paid for. >> The only problem one of the problems I have is timing. When did we first find
out that the committee didn't want to find anybody to be the chair person. >> So I I mean this has been going on for a while. Just some of the concerns from the rec committee in that just it takes a while to it's a lot of time and
effort. Uh and they scrambled last year to get somebody to kind of run this. Um I I know they had a meeting recently. I I wasn't in attendance, but I think there it was stated that they really don't have anybody Obviously,
it's been a few months that this has been thought about that we can't find. Now, it is almost April and we're being told, "Hey, council, we don't have anybody. Nobody wants to run it. We're throwing it on your lap. Otherwise, we're not going to have a campus." I
mean, the whole idea behind Gre invented was have was the main their main core mission was to have the summer camp for the kids. Obviously things changed got expanded but it seems like and I'm not bad mountain people I know they do a lot
of good things a lot hard work using their own time I said but they they've lost their mission and mission is supposed to be taking care of this summer camp first with these kids and everything else is icing on the cake you're not baking the
cake you're just doing all the icing with all these other products >> so I'm thinking you lost your you know, this should have been the main priority. And if you knew about it several months ago that we're not going to go forward with this and you have these two women who've been running it, apparently they know what they're doing
and they're willing to do it again, but they're in limbo land. They they don't know or they don't have a job or they're not going to have a job. I'm sure they have other opportunities in different positions. I think they're school teachers or something. They probably have other opportunities and being
waiting last second again because we didn't know anything about it. three days ago. These ladies may say, "The heck with you guys. You're all messed up. We're going to go work for somebody else doing some some other job someplace else. So, we're going to lose two people that know what they're doing because
here we are last minute scrambling to straighten everything out." So, I just, you know, just that bothers me that we didn't know about this a month or two ago and maybe we could have got ahead of it. Well, I mean, I think there was, again, this has been going on for a year, probably a year, two years a
discussion, >> right? I understand. >> Couple months. >> Um, and and let me just make a point about about the how the camp changed, right? And my kids, uh, two of my kids went through the camp, one now works at the camp. But back in the day, you throw kids out in the field and say, "Go play
soccer." And the kids play soccer for four hours. Kids and parents these days, they need activities, right? So, they they get very bored. They need activities. They need to have a structured day. So, you know, now bringing in these activities, that's what takes a lot of the time and effort. If we can throw kids out in the field
for four hours with a basketball, I think that'd be fine. But that's not the way that has evolved from way back when this was started. Andy, >> okay, first I want to say I want to have the camp summer camp program. Okay. But
I have multiple issues. Just like Councilman Dixon said, I went to the camp when I was 11 years old. This has been running for 70 years, give or take. And there were events back then, carums, uh, knock hockey,
kickball, whiffle ball, basketball, you know, arts and crafts. And then I understand nowadays I have grandkids that are young. They want to look at a screen. Kids always want some kind of screen time. Uh in my past years on
council, prior to anybody else up here, Friday was the big day where an the fun bus would come or something. We every the other four days were fine. But I said, I'm going to do whatever it takes. You know, if we if the council or the
town has to take this over, which I'm not happy about, I want the camp to happen. Um, we should have known about it. And I got to point out a couple things. Very detailed email from America. Your third
sentence bothers me though. You know, we voted, and it was unanimous, comma, to remove camp from our events, so it is now in the council's hands to either make camp its own entity or cancel it. That's pretty harsh. That's a That's a
pretty harsh like ultimatum. I'm gonna read something. >> Wait, hold on. Hold on, Eric. I'll call you up in your >> Excuse me. In my opinion, and I'm entitled to that. You're an advisory committee. It's in our code book. Okay.
The purpose, and this is for each advisory committee, and I'm I'm just going to read it, but I'm not going to go this route, but I'm going to read it. Each advisory committee set forth above shall assist in coordinating and integrating municipal community plans
and services in the particular area for which the committee is formed and perform such other duties as may be deemed necessary by the governing body. Bottom line is we can tell you no, you are going to run the camp. But if I do that, you're going to say no, I'm not.
You're not going to have any volunteers. I get that. I just want you to understand you're not totally just like every other committee in charge. You're an advisory committee. You gave us some advice. Duly noted like I said when I first said I
want the camp to happen and if it has to happen by us the council or the town taking it over that's fine. you know, um I don't know why the enrollment went from over 200 close to 300 not too many
years ago down to 51. Um I know that uh times change, salaries change, but there's got to be a way to at least sustain itself. Um, you know, you listed a whole bunch
of vendors that come in, you know, that's nice. I don't know if they were coming in just on Fridays or every other days. Um, and as far as, you know, having two, I'm assuming it's the two young ladies up here in the front that
are teachers that are going to run it. Why a wreck? It it doesn't seem too much of a problem for a wreck volunteer to just oversee it. They're running the camp. So, you can shake your head all you want. I'm entitled to my opinion. You
can come up, >> but that's it. I mean, I want the camp to happen, but I just have a lot of problems with how this is on. And the other thing, it's up for discussion, but it's also one J as a consent
resolution. So, when I read the agenda, that kind of tells me the decision was already made. Why have a discussion anyway? So that's all I have to say on that. >> First of all, thank you for volunteering
your time with the recreation. I personally greatly appreciate that and you are not obligated to do any of that and I greatly appreciate your time and your service. Thank you. You are an advisory team. advising us and I appreciate that as
well and I appreciate the detail that you put in to your email to us. It was very thoroughly explained. Um my take away from it is that the camp is self sustainable. Last year it was $7,000
over there. issue easily this year and then it was complaining because of that activity. We don't have to indulge that this year. There were our own groups who stepped in
last year the reced shells painted rocks our town stepped up and showed up for the summer camp and the kids seem to really enjoy that. We don't have to indivist. Thank you guys. I do have some questions.
insurance. >> I mean, still I would imagine it's all the same insurance, right? Wreck as a committee versus >> I mean, I guess >> you guys are discussing alternative proposal where it becomes more initiative, right? >> So, right. So, >> so I mean I think
>> better suited for insurance. >> Yeah, I think that makes it even more. >> It'll be through the >> burrows. That's for our >> spoke to Chris real today. That's for our insurance. I do agree though.
>> I mean, I can tell you Joe's been briefed and he's met with us tonight. Any other comments before you open it up to the public? >> Okay. Anybody in the public?
I was literally members of his council, members of the I don't know what happened when I was not when I was again,000. So, we have a plan in place and those
two issues that cost us notion of what somebody asks for more money. So if you're concerned about taking it knowice Yony. Why can't Tony Lee as a well educated
well experienced professional Campies,000 extra expenses like that. And you're right. I I did write the sentence that I wrote and read it correctly. I was being clear because
this is the third time now. That's what we discussed. brought up here several months ago. So it hasn't just been brought up today. I understand that of all these different questions.
So Ion of the comm across that way because I don't know what else to do. And my proposal just be that way. I didn't want to take it over and not But I do want to point out that it's not
>> I guess the first time for me and That's what we're saying. I don't think you have >> we we I mean it's a discussion item. I mean it's we're we're we're getting into
crunch time but I mean I was going to ask for a motion but you know >> it's already consent >> and and it's in the consent resolution um to remove it. I should say registration. So does it have to happen
tonight? The way I'm reading agenda. That's I think that's why it showed up like that. Yeah, >> that's how it was written when I >> Okay, >> thank you for that explanation from Mike.
>> I'm sorry. Go ahead. >> I'm not going to everything. I will tell you that I probably was at camping. All of that was done without again knowing how far behind they get when
they have to month. So, I would sincerely ask that you voting on it tonight. >> Anybody else? Dave, sorry. No, Mike.
If we're going to run, if the town is going to take that over, what are the steps that we have to make for the two direct director and assistant director? Is that your official title? >> How do we do we have to hire them at,
you know, the municipality? Do we have to have a consent resolution to hire them? >> Yeah, I would say >> uh temporary whatever. Yeah, I would say uh we would want to look at your salary ordinance and presumably make um an appointment by resolution to hire the
individuals on sal >> a seasonal parttime basis. >> Exactly. There's probably already, I would imagine, language in your salary ordinance to provide for such a position. If the council wanted to go in that direction or at least evaluate it, I would recommend providing me that
direction so I can work with the administrator to review. So it's said that we're on crunch time. People are getting inquiries anyway. If we were to vote to remove it from wreck, much to my chagrin,
could they start prior to that? Could they start doing some of the leg work prior to that res? You know, it would be at the next meeting. and set up a flyer. Yeah. >> But
>> I mean, in terms of whether an individual is formally hired until the governing body acts, the answer would be no. I think if people want to act on a quasi volunteer basis or if there's kind of an agreement that something would be made retroactive, I think that's feasible, but obviously be contingent
upon >> the next meeting. Can can I just add the salaries that you outlined and I don't know if you guys got to see that is is that the salaries that we hired them >> is that the salary >> well is that I mean
>> I mean we could discuss that just to be clear is is the salary basis kind of the same structure as last year pulled forward to this year and was it paid by the municipality last And I would imagine it's it sounds to me like it's essentially the same function
from a payroll standpoint. It's just that the reporting function is a little different because to not go through the volunteer channels but to the governing body. So if that's the context, I don't really think >> there's a need for formal action because it would sound like it's the same. >> We could do a formal action to to hire
them. >> Correct. >> Correct. Just like you would do in past years. I don't think it's really any different. >> Okay. >> There's no financial disclosure forms or anything like that. They change it. >> Yeah. >> I mean, they would need background checks and all that stuff that we the normal
>> as as an employee. >> Well, I think they would whoever's in it would have to comply with whatever the typical requirements are to be on boarded as an employee. Um, I think if you're asking specifically about financial disclosures, prior to me, Councilman, there was
some sort of position taken that individual folks on certain recreation committees require financial disclosure statements. I reviewed that and it appeared that the state issued that guidance specifically for members of boards of recreation commissioners,
which is a formal board established at the county level, which or at the municipal level, which you don't have. It's an advisory board. So, distinguishable. >> Correct. >> Anybody else? DJ
It's going to make the whole situation much more seamless. really just taking out the middle years ago. You know, you need to have the kids, you know, school. So, I just think this is going to
streamline things, make it work a lot smoother. allow them to do their job. >> Thank you. Anybody else? Ladies, >> just state your name and address for both you, please. Over
35 years of committed experience and education. We believe every child as an individual. That belief is what drives everything we want to be. And that's where we run into the past.
While everyone's intentions were good, the results were often mixed messages and difficulty maintaining a clear vision. become harder to make decisions, harder to stay. We're committed to operating with transparency. We will continue to communicate with the bureau and ensure
that all decisions reflect the standards and expectations of this. But we also believe that for this camp to truly succeed, it needs to be focused and ability to act. >> Thank you both. >> And I will say you guys really knock it out of the park every year with the
camp. So, thank you for all your time and effort >> in that. They work well together. >> And they do. The tag team is very, very good. Yeah. Yeah. True. That's a treat. >> Uh I'm gonna ask for a motion. Uh if we
could get a motion to hire Tony Lee Chamberlain as the director and Sophia Longo as the assistant director outside of the wreck as temporary seasonal photo employees. >> I'll make that motion. to confirm. That's for motion to hire Tony Lee Chamberlain as director and
Sophia Longo as director outside of wreck as seasonal employees. Is that >> seasonal temporary employees? However you want to word that. Yes. >> For the summer camp. >> And who made the motion? Councilman Dix.
>> Yes. >> Yes. >> Sorry. I'm >> I wanted I want the camp, but I'm still not happy. >> I know. I'm waiting for Eric to say you run. >> Thank you to uh Thank you to everyone
who spoke and thank you to the council. I think a step in the right direction. All right, moving on to low-speed vehicle spots on Broadway. Uh, this was brought up at the last meeting. Some residents came up and I know Councilman Dixon. Uh, so if you want to take it.
>> Okay. Uh, last year the council decided to do a pilot program of putting some lowspeed vehicle parking spots on Broadway, the section north of Ocean Avenue. What I mean by a low speed is basically these people that have these
that you see around town now that became the new rage I guess. Um at that meeting we had three or four people that live over there on Broadway. I believe one of the houses have no parking. They were outraged by it. There's as for people
who live up by the bungalow area. They understand that there's limited parking to begin with. A lot of the houses up there don't have parking spaces for themselves. And by eliminating the two spot two spots and c these three golf spots.
It made it very difficult for them to park in front of their own home. So, I suggested that uh we get rid of the program. I don't think it worked out well. I don't think the residents deserve the chance to leave
park and run their own house. And from what the gentleman came at the last meeting, which I didn't even know they were here. I had stopped by their house the week before they weren't home. So, I was surprised. It was almost like a setup, but I I didn't know they were coming and they said that it's barely
being used. The people who have been in there, they talked to them and some of them actually told them that they are renters in town and the rental homes that they have that are renting from have these golf carts and they allow them to use them and they tell them, "Hey, go up here and park in this area
here." So, to be fair to the uh homeowners and especially the people that live up in the Bungalow area where there's limited parking, I would like to remove those three golf park spots and put it back to two regular parking spots and they'll be treated as like any other person looking
for parking spot. First come, first serve and that's it. >> I agree. When that was first proposed, you know, I had asked Councilman Bettton if he happened to own a golf cart and he said
no, but he might buy one. Um I, you know, I they can fit into a regular spot. They can pay like everybody else or find a free spot if they're, you know, open on the street like every other car.
I said I own a Mini Cooper, not too much, like six inches longer than a golf cart wheelbase. So, you know, but I couldn't park there because I'm not a low speed vehicle. I would fit. I agree. >> Huh.
>> Yeah, I can drive slow. I can drive 25, you know. But, uh, I agree with John. They eliminate them. It was a pilot program. didn't seem to work out. >> Yes. >> Do we know if this was codified an ordinance the Do we know if the the
parking restrictions on this were codified by ordinance or if it was just >> I don't remember an ordinance. >> Yeah. >> I think it was just it was a it was a pilot program >> so done by like motion or resolution. >> Yeah. >> All right. So it was adopted that way.
It could be repealed that way. >> Would there be any consideration to put them somewhere else? And I thought about it a little bit moving it to um I guess Ocean Avenue by the Jensen's area, but that's then we're taking up paid spots and >> right
>> why give that up? >> I can see the benefit of the golf less traffic right there. So they were getting somewhere else in town. I just can't
we think of a spot, you know, revisit. >> Okay. And just to be clear, I mean, those spots and and I last year when they came up to talk about it, I told them it's not their assigned spots. I mean, I get it, right? If they want to park in front of their house if it's
open, but they just need to know it's not their assigned spots. Anybody else can park there. >> Oh, yeah. No, they understand that. But they by changing it, they had no shot. >> They had no shot there, right? I get it. >> Okay. So, I guess >> yeah, I'd like to make a motion to
resend the uh golf court. I guess it was a resolution. >> I think it was a resolution. Yeah. >> And go back to making those into normal regular car parks. >> Would it be acceptable, Councilman, as part of the motion that if we identify there is an ordinance to give me authorization to prepare that for the
next meeting? >> We'll take a look just there's a motion on the table. try to look on the fly. >> I don't think there was. >> So, I have a motion to resend low speed vehicle parking on Broadway, the trial
of low speed vehicle parking program on Broadway. Um motion by council Dixon, second by council. >> Yes. >> Yes. Yes.
>> Okay, that concludes our discussion items. Uh, now we'll move on to committee reports. Councilman Dixon, >> I don't have much uh to report on the committee. I had a um historical meeting the other day. It was a special meeting. And for the people that know downtown
where the Bank of America is, they're going to build a uh very very nice looking place, but apparently it has to be run through the historical society to make sure it fits into their scheme of the older style looking downtown beachy
look. So they had a meeting the other day, they talked about it and they all agreed that it fit into their scheme and they I believe they approved, you know, the plan that was shown and like I said, I've seen the picture. It's going to be it's going to be nice. It's a lot better than that abandoned bank we're looking
at for five years. So, and plus it's going to bring in some nice apartments for people, which will help revitalize the downtown, I would think. Um, I just want to bring up that real New Jersey again. I brought it up at the last meeting. A lot of people didn't understand it, and I think that a couple
guys were going to talk about it, too. Um, the state of New Jersey came up with these ridiculous plans where now our town is going to probably be 85% or so in a flood zone. And it's doesn't make any sense. Our
rules here already we're already three feet above what the the base flood elevation is. So the state wants to put another two feet. So if you think these houses are tall now, add another two feet to them. That's what the state wants. But the good news is, believe it
or not, Republicans and Democrats in the state of New Jersey must have realized what they did wasn't a good idea. and they're both now lobbying to try to ease that uh requirement. So stay tuned. We'll see what happens with that. And
hopefully, you know, what we do was good enough. We don't not going to go to these crazy heights. Other than that, that's it. That's >> okay. Thank you, >> Council President. the first meeting of the year officer. social
As far as finance myself, We're recation. Thank you guys. schedu. Rossy. Open spacey. Police
as far as the fund moving forward. Then last couple months ago, They did the speed. Thank you. >> Thank you. Happy St. Patrick's Day everybody. Thanks for coming out tonight. Finance insurance advertising
on our agenda tonight that the CFO February cost was a little over $21,000. I'd like to let everybody know that because the budget and we're hoping to have a budget to present to the public in April
for an update. Um I met with various members of the community. People are asking me about the program. Um, I do want to just make a quick mention. Thank you to people who did
reach out to me who got tickets for not quite shoveling their sidewalks and a lot of them followed up with me and told me about their experience. I want to thank them for reaching out to me, letting me know their experience and
not for nothing. We are going to experience and try to do better in the future. You might see tonight's agenda there's a $10,000 expenditure for a tree inventory. Well, I'd like you to know
that they have received a grant for $15,000 $10,000,000 spending tonight. the other $5,000 um they're hopeful to get and they're thinking about they can get that by
losing their volunteer hours towards that $5,000 and hopeful to get the full $15,000. So thank you for pursuing that grant money tax $3500.
Um the shade tree commission is offering a big beautiful tree program is that is offered to the public at reduced prices. These trees are professionally planted. The pay is a tax deduction
bag and make those trees stronger. They can be planted on public or private property as a beachhead or so it's a wonderful program board of education I have nothing to report
I do want to say that a local county passed away on March 5th 2026 even though he wasn't a res still very notable resis Anybody?
He was an awardwinning local journalist who gained quite a bit of notoriety for his investigative research that killed away the secrecy that um was being procured by SA
was a chemical manufacturer in Tom's River and at one point they had a pipeline directly to the ocean just toxic chemicals directly into the ocean. They right to the bay and right into drinking
water to cancer clusters especially children and local nonprofit safe is currently fighting them fighting in courtificing for a grant and they want to use it for signage. Um, but they're not exactly
sure of what signage, but part of the grant is to get approval by the council. So, that's something I'm going to make a motion to get a reservody. a copy of the letter from the environmental commission. It's it's part
of the procedural application that they would govern body support. >> Yeah. The only the only issue I have with it, I don't have a problem with them applying for a grant, but I have some concerns of what what it's going to
be used for and where it's going to be used. Is it about signage? I mean, I had mentioned to you earlier about the sign pollution we already have in our town. How many more signs we need? But one of the issues is where they might put these
items and I discussed it with you already. Um, I having a tough time saying yes because it could make some litigation that the town doesn't need to be having. So, as of
right now, what else has to say about I'm not against it but I'd like to know I'd like to have something from them where they're going to put these things what is actually be on these sides >> I was chatting with
the chairman right now seems like it's a decision to say anything beforehand Personally, I like to encourage anybody going after
them and especially with us. >> Is there a second? I'll second >> again. Um, so the motion is >> I guess approve consent to the grant application
>> to support the environmental commission's grant application. >> Yes. >> For signage. Can we just leave it as grant application and not specify >> in case it's used
>> stewardship? So it's not specifically for >> taking out the signage. Well, just in the in the resolution or what or the motion just so that we just keep it at the grant name and not specify what it's for.
>> Is it fair to say the grant program is broader than the potential intent of using money for signage? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, I mean, I would imagine you could apply for the grant, get it, and then you could have a further conversation on what Yes, >> that's it.
>> Thank you, Coun Council Cortez. Thank you, Mayor. Yes. Happy St. Patrick's Day. Um, public property buildings and grounds. That's what I chair. Okay. There's a lot. Uh, St. Peters, it was in the Ocean Star. If anybody saw that, St.
Peters uh reached out to our DPW and brought them lunch and had a few of their students go over there with uh thank you posters for uh the snow removal around, you know, Pleasure Park and around the church and the school. It was a nice time. They had a nice little
picture in the Ocean Star. uh the water main project uh going northbound. They're up to New Jersey Avenue. Uh moving right along the weather. Hopefully they'll be uh all the way up by Broadway before this summer. Uh they
pressure tested all all the new pipes on Route 35 South. Uh they had that's why they for the one day one or two days we had uh blocked off southbound there right by Cedar because that's where they had to tie it in at Cedar just to get
the water into the new pipes. They have to pressure test them. Um I was asked about double hydrants. All the old hydrants will be removed where they you know put new ones once the system is switched over. um water p uh water tank
number two on the ground that was painted um repaired. Not sure if they did the sanitation uh sanitized it yet because they're going to move the water back from the other ground tank and keep moving on that. Uh DPW filled 30 plus
potholes around town. They're getting more cold patch. They actually went through one and a quarter ton of coal patch uh around town. >> Hey Andy, just real quick, I'm sorry to interrupt you. >> Uh could they if the county has been
horrible with it going over the tracks on Broadway? We've talked about in the past. It's a mess there. Can they maybe patch up a couple of holes? Where's that one? >> Doesn't do anything on Broadway. Going over the railroad tracks. >> I can ask I'll ask you. >> Yeah, they got a little extra, you know,
do something. >> I know. You know what? That that came up many years ago and the county said, "Oh, no, that's the state." Because it's so far off of the state highway. They take control and the state said, "That's a county road." So, it's like both those
entities were just pointing at each other. But you're absolutely right. >> Yeah. Can we get maybe being that they're going to repay 35 >> maybe there's some communication you get with the county and the state >> get that patched um >> happy meeting there >> you know and with that with the potholes
I did get to uh I got an email from someone that lives over on Charleston Street that's kind of that little forgotten section of our town down by McDonald's you know Charleston one little section of Maryland and Delaware that is ours they complained about a pothole over
there. I passed that on to Jack. Uh I did get another email uh curbs on Kramer Street said that when they when the town plowed, they kind of chipped away at some of the curbing. And this resident
was concerned they did not want to be responsible to repair them. And I reached out and said, "You're not really responsible for the curb, just the sidewalk." So if they came up on the sidewalk, we have a problem. Um I spoke to Mark Jenkee. He's the Ocean
County engineer because it was brought to my attention that uh one of the lens covers on the traffic signal at Baltimore Broadway was open. So I passed that on to him. The red lens was open. And uh they did put up a new blinking
light at Chicago and Arnold. And if you I drove by there and it looked awful to me and low low over the ground. It's it's it's suspended on a cable. It's not on a crossarm. >> So, I went home and got my measuring
stick from my former career and I measured it and it's it's actually 16 feet 4 in off the road. When I spoke to Mark Jenkee, the do Ocean County DOT and the state 15T 6 in to 19t is within their code. So,
yes, it does look low, but it's falls within their uh their tolerance. Yeah, I know. On the agenda, one I uh kiosk. Those are batteries for our kiosks for
uh paid parking. Um this is the first time they're ordering replacements. They're sealed batteries in there and those kiosks are eight years old with a little uh solar top on them to help them charge. So I think it's pretty good
lifespan that we got out of them. This is the first time Jack was saying and one M uh that is a replacement hire in DPW um that we're memorializing for someone that retired.
Uh flood plane management. Uh we haven't had our first meeting yet. We're going to be scheduling that. But to piggy back on to Councilman Dixon, yeah was a partisan bill sponsored uh SCR 106
to um overturn the uh real uh rules. And the issue was that they think the state uh DP overstepped their boundaries with the climate um initiative program in
trying to institute these rules and uh basically it make our whole town a flood zone even on west side of the tracks when nobody had any water you know in this unless you were over by the river. So hopefully the uh
the barrier island here mayors that are all on board with that can get that delayed or changed. Uh senior committee um I know we're trying to get your names, mayor.
>> Okay. Uh uh there's there's a group of uh resident seniors that have stepped up to assist with the events until we can get formal volunteers. The first event is March 27th. Uh it's going to be a Price's Right game
lunchon at Ocean Fire Company number one on Arnold Avenue. Uh the flyer was approved and posted and they've already reached their target capacity of 35 resident seniors. Uh And uh they need the need to get the
RSVP and get that keep it to that number for prizes and supplies. I'm gonna I'm gonna talk to council again about that. >> Um, but there are some sponsors. They have some donations for this lunchon,
you know, to do that. >> And uh yeah, and uh you know, they want to do four four events, one each quarter. You know, this will be the first one. The next one will probably be sometime in May. And then I think I had
the last meeting September November. Uh that's it for me. >> Okay. Thank you. I'm going to start off with the police report since Councilman Ramos is not here. Uh save the date for the Point Beach Bike Bash, which is a
bike safety rodeo for all Point Beach residents, grades K to 8, as well as St. Peter students. This free event will be held on Saturday, May 10th, 2026 from 11:00 a.m. to 3 pm in the Silver Lake parking lot. We will have bike safety
information, bike skills course, bike repair, a BMX demonstration, food, ice cream, prizes, and more. The first aid, fire departments, and the dive team will also be at the event. Registration and permission slips will be required to attend and we will be provided at a
later date. And just a reminder, paid parking is in effect throughout town as of March 1st. Um, okay. So, uh, a couple meetings ago, Councilman Cortez talked about the water department and the alerting system that
they have there. I actually talked to, uh, toa and learned a little bit more about their system. So, there's a way that residents could tap into this system directly um which will enhance customer service um by providing
consumers with a convenient proactive way to monitor their own water consumption 247. They no longer have to wait for a bill to detect possible issues or to hear from the water department, which means less water loss, fewer high bill complaints. Users could
set water thresholds and out of town alerts for greater peace of mind. and water conservation is encouraged when consumers can see how much they actually use with easyto read charts and graphs. Uh the system is Neptune my 360. It's web- based, works on all devices and is
always up to date. Uh so easily customized to utility branding again visibility into consumer portal um self-service access to consumer data and and that will cut down some of the calls and high bill complaints. Um, and then
an intuitive dashboard. Uh, the only thing is there's a cost that comes with this, right? So, the first year cost is $17,000. Uh, and that includes a setup fee and training. The subscription cost is $8,600.
So, um, that's built into the 17,000. And then going forward, year two on, it would be $8,600. I just bring it up because I I learned about it and I thought it'd be kind of cool for consumers to have access to that information at their fingertips. I'm not asking for any governing body
action tonight, but just to keep you guys appraised if you have further questions um speak to and then maybe we could throw this on the agenda uh for next meeting. I'll get your thoughts on it and and see. Uh you know, it is a little bit of money, but um that's just for the startup cost and it's pretty
reasonable going forward. >> Is there a monthly 8,000 a year subscription. >> Yeah. >> Uh so again, we'll talk about that. Uh New Jersey Rail, both uh Councilman Dixon, Councilman Cortez talked about it. Um I did sign off on a letter
against it with all the other barrier island mayors. Uh and that was sent uh through Assemblyman Kenich's office. So I know they're doing their work to try and oppose that. Uh the mayor's cup again to recreation. Uh congrats to the recreation boys basketball team uh who
beat the boys burrow team. a couple Saturdays ago. Uh so congrats to them. The girls played their heart out but unfortunately came up a little short on that. Um Oxenford Hall which is uh Arnold Arnold Avenue next to the uh the
church there by Woodland. Um I know there was some talk uh in a recent or Ocean Star article last year. Uh the pastor mentioned that they're working with the town. Um they actually called me to their first meeting or to my first meeting um of this year with them. uh
and they are moving forward with uh rehabilitating that building. Um they want to make it a senior center um for both their congregation as well as the town. Um so they're they're very early in the process with gathering quotes and
getting costs and budgets and stuff, but uh I'm not exactly sure what the ask is from them yet. Uh but I did have a meeting with the pastor and some of the church congregation. I know they're exploring grant opportunities on their own to cover some of the costs. Uh but
more to come um when I hear more from them, but I just wanted to let the council and public know that um that just happened last week. So um Councilman Ramos and I last week attended the making strides for breast cancer evening of gratitude event and we
accepted the 2025 community sponsor award on behalf of Point Pleasant Beach. they were very grateful for um for our town and everything we do for them uh during their walk um and which is the fourth largest in the nation. So um it
was great to accept that that award on behalf of the burrow. Um on agenda item 1 U is uh just merely support for the county to purchase 113 1115 Channel Drive which they have their open space meeting I believe next Wednesday uh to
finally uh vote to purchase that. So, uh, in case anyone was wondering about that, uh, Mayor's Wellness, uh, for the second consecutive year, we recently awarded the 2025, uh, Healthy Town, um, award through the New Jersey Quality Care Institute. So, I'm very proud of
that. We held our first mayor's wellness event on March 10th, and it was a huge success. It was very well attended, and I think that had to do with this brutal winter. Everybody was excited and in very, very happy spirits to be out and about. I want to thank Mary Jane Riley
for making all the soups. We had delicious three delicious soups and members of the team who helped volunteer at the event. Uh and thank you to the Ocean Star. There's a great article uh in last week's Ocean Star. Our next event will be held on April 13th uh at
6:30 p.m. at the Little Red Library where I along with the uh Point Pleasant Beach Police Department will uh talk about the latest IT scams and ways to protect yourself online. I'll be doing my first walk with the mayor on Saturday, April 25th. Uh we
will meet at 10:00 a.m. at the Bordon's lot, but closer to River Avenue. Um where I'll talk about some of the things going on in town. And then we'll walk over to the library. Once at the library, staff will give a tour to all the attendees and talk about all the services the library provides, which is
more than just a library card and being able to get books. They actually provide a ton of services. Uh the bid uh the bid's continuing to work on planning for its plane air competition event which is also on Saturday, April 25th in conjunction with the Jim and Zero
Gallery. Uh they're working on putting together a website and social media. They met with Natalie Panero to discuss potential agreement for social media management. Uh and they're in the process of creating a logo and establishing digital presence. The bid will be working on applying for funding
to effectuate some of the programming objectives. uh and are looking into tangible improvements to the downtown. Uh and they'll also be looking to survey the downtown businesses and property owners for their priorities and to guide next year's budget objectives. So, we want to hear from the property owners
and the business owners as to what they want to see from the bid. The next meeting is Monday, April 6th at 6 PM in Burough Hall. Chamber of Commerce. Uh they're doing a Sick of Winter event on April 26 from 4 PM to 8:00 PM. The fly has been posted out on social media.
There will be a tropical dress contest selfie station with digital voting and sales all up and down Arnold Dembe. The Easter parade will be held on Easter Sunday, April 5th. The parade is at 1 on the boardwalk and registration starts at 11:30. And then finally, just one event
from the library on Friday, March 20th. They're doing New J New Jersey Maker Day, a game design with Super Mario Maker 2. That's from 3:30 to 4:30 p.m. And that's where kids can or anybody can learn about basic video game design with Super Mario Maker 2. And if you're
interested, reach out to the library for more. That's all I have. I >> have nothing to add. There was no revised agenda today. I have a question. Item
red >> on this new one. Is there's not Yeah, but we'll I could call for it >> on the newer one. There is. Yeah, >> the newer one. You probably have an old >> Yeah, >> I'm looking at the agenda last week,
too. No big deal. >> And now it's just an oversight. >> Okay, that's it. I think >> that's it. >> Okay. Uh, first public participation. Anything on the agenda and ordinances only? Time limit is five minutes.
David No, go for it. Council periodically every time. >> Correct. Who's next for first public? All right. >> Hearing none. Can I get a motion to
close first public? >> And can I get a motion to uh approve consent resolution one and two? >> Second. Yes. >> Okay. >> There are three ordinances.
>> There are two uh public hearings. First one is ordinance 202607 ordinance amending chapter 19 title development to establish standards for And we'll open that up for public. That was discussed. We discussed that last
language. >> I'm not Potential future litigation would be >> let's say how does this impact that situation and could they potentially come
Well, the ordinance doesn't say that this is a new ordinance, so it doesn't >> Yeah, I mean, >> well, yeah, I understand from a practical standpoint what you're saying.
Um, you know, when you do an ordinance, it's supposed to be of general application. So, it it is adopted in order to establish the standard for the entire town. actually there would probably be a legal issue with the ordinance if it had language that attempted to address particular
situations like the one you may be referencing. Um I I can't sit here and give you a legal opinion on how that particular case may end up being resolved or what the applicability of this may be to something that occurred
in the past and they have I understand that but I think the fact pattern is, you know, there are very I mean, if if someone has, like we talked about, if someone has a gazebo that is not legal under the current ordinance,
uh they could certainly attempt to make it legal by complying with the new provisions. And if it still doesn't comply with the new provisions, it would require variance from the zoning board. Um I can't speak to any pending or
violations how those will be handled whether workers that's really not affected by any violent Anybody else? >> Hearing none. Can I get a motion to close and adopt?
Council Dixon. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Council and Council Cortez. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, that ordinance has been adopted. Then we have second reading.
Ordinance 20268 or amending section 23 titled meetings. I'll open that up for public. Letter J. Okay. J was struck. I thought I provided that.
>> I had circulated after the meeting, sir, a version of the ordinance that struck subsection J. I would propose that what we vote on tonight. >> Strike that one. >> Yes. >> Okay. Yeah, I'm reading that.
That's correct. That's correct. And that's not even an operation of this ordinance. State law would govern even if we didn't have this or that reality. There are some other correct local. >> Anybody else on this or
hearing? None. Can I get a motion to close and adopt? >> I'll make that motion. Council Dixon. >> Yes. >> You can procedurally comment on why you're voting the way you're voting. Since we're in the middle of the vote,
you should discuss further, but you can explain your vote. >> Okay. While I do agree with this, I'm because attorney about this procedurally part of Robert's rules but
here it's council member question they want to ask a question they can do so that's just not how do it so I understand it's part of rules for me I would rather
That's why >> yes >> so that ordinance has been adopted >> and then there's the first reading of ordinance 202609 Ordinance amending section. >> Can I get a motion to introduce >> probably?
Yeah. >> Dixon >> discussion. It says I own a volunteer and you believe members
of my discussions actually brought to my attention a group to vote. You have to have a certain percent of reason but not also take issue with number
that the governing body sufficient to membership. >> So I'm agreeing with the business owners having rights as members as if I could just interject. Councilwoman, the edit that is included in the
following section 46.7 is intended to make the um essentially gaining memberships under the definition of nonresident non voting. So none of those folks should count as voting
members for purposes of a voting quarum. Uh so I just want to make sure that >> are they not able to volunteer. Now >> most committees you are not allowed. >> Yeah. So my my question number three,
the way that is, would that be uh hypothetically someone that pays tuition to send their kids to school here? Obviously, they live out of town, but you know, their their child has
friends here, you know, goes to school here. Would that is that where that >> cover? Yeah. >> Okay. the governing the governing body I think will ultimately define that right case by case I just want to see they wouldn't
be a business owner when you know but they have sufficient >> you know you know uh involvement with the burrow >> okay any other questions comments >> make a motion to introduce the motion
>> we have that Council Dix. >> Yes. >> Yes. But I want to strike that part or no. >> Well, >> you can introduce it and then the next meeting,
>> but I think I think we covered that, right? So, you were concerned about the non-resident taxpayers and the quorum. Okay. Yeah. I mean, you >> Well, I mean, I think if the council woman's position is that people shouldn't qualify under that section
catch all, then you know, if you don't agree with the substance of it, then that would be your right to vote. You can certainly offer an amendment after this vote to see if there's a desire to revise it. >> Okay.
>> Yes. >> All right. So, the public hearing on this will be on April 7th. >> Okay. We'll open it up to public participation now. The second one. Uh anything you'd like to talk about? Three
minute time frame on this. >> Three. >> First one's five. Second one's three. >> And my my clock's not working, so I'm doing my stopwatch. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
again and again. Why is that? So Dave, I will add that uh the Barrier Island mayor meeting uh this problem is rampant throughout the barrier island. So we've come together to discuss it. I couldn't make the meeting, but I know uh B administrator Michigan did. So I know
there's action coming out of that as well. Um, but I understand your point and you bring it up every meeting and it keeps happening again and again and Right. You say, "Here's how many did
it myself? I'm just saying that when Joe's back, we'll we'll have a meeting. >> Yeah. What are you going to do to help the
people? Somebody said last time I do it. It says dogs right now. Got it. Thank you. >> Same to you.
Who's next? Chris. Obviously, I don't want to be here. Not where I want to be at night. I want to be home. I'm not here to attack. I'm not here to attack. I'm not here to attack. What I'm
here for is the enforcement that this town is responsible for. All right. My father owned the house prior to me. I was born and raised in my house and I subsequently bought it from my father.
He was at the original planning for these resolutions. This is what governs the business. They must These are the rules. That's how I understand it. Um, that's not
what's happening here. Two resolutions were passed. 2003-273, 2009-338. Both my parents and the neighbors that still live on Laurel Avenue to this day were part of that hearing. And in that
hearing, it was granted that they had rules to follow. They're not following those rules. All right. They're not following any of those rules. First meeting ever called after doing the neighbor to neighbor thing with Joe
was called by Joe on um sorry August 30th 2022. So that's about four years ago. That was the first meeting held at Bur Hall behind there in that room. In that room, Brian Martin asked, "Joe, John, are you
guys delivering to the warehouse like it says in your answer to Brian Martin? No, we never did. It didn't work for us. That's what's in that. That's what's in that variance." He said he would do better. He didn't do
better. Nothing changed. Trucks blocking drive, trucks double parking in the middle of the road. Police department police department having to give issue issue tickets to trucks. It's not fair
to resist home. I wrote to you, mayor, multiple emails complain, "This is not being followed. Why isn't it being followed? What is the burrow going to do about these these resolutions that were passed? That's that's what they're there for. Is
that true? They're there for the businesses to follow. This is in essence somewhat of a courtroom. You give testimony. This is what you're going to do. That's not what's being done. I continued my emails on and on pictures, violations, police
department. >> Chris, real quick, your time. I'll give you 30 seconds to summarize where your time's up. >> And your buzzer says that too. >> I mean, I'll give you another minute. >> No, I get it. I I'll give you another minute. >> April 29th, 2025, we had another
meeting. The chief of police was there. You were there. And in that meeting, it was brought up again. You guys aren't doing what you're supposed to do. The alternative was the attorney said, "Hey, here's a picture. Let's do this. Let's put a loading zone here." It never happened. Well, I'm sorry. That's what
they want to do. In fact, they brought up pictures of illegally parked trucks and the chief of police and I'll never speak with the chief of police, but I was at that meeting and he said you were there. That's not a viable option. That's not that's not a good place for trucks to park. It's not being done. A
summon was finally issued four years after the fact after a notice of violation. It was four years and then the parking continued to happen and I emailed even more and more at that one point. The the gave a summon to a Joe Leing
down to town hall. It took me four years to get one violation for both these resolutions. Four years for a summon to be issued to John Hill, not even Joe Le because the way the town works, if you have a violation, you can't go for any
approvals until you resolve them. You know, Joe came down or Joe and came down here after his employee was given a summon and he asked is violating ordinances. It took less than a week for me two summones mailed in the mail and I
resolved them in court. My understanding there's there's talk about putting a loading and unloading zone on Laurel Avenue. The problem with that is is one they're not following the resolutions to this day and two the summits that the burrow issued to John
Hill is fair to how is it fair that they're not following the rules but the burrow is bending over backwards to help them out and if there is a proposed change to
the parking loading and unloading zone that still doesn't take away the They still have to follow the planning board recommendations and what was decided. >> Chris, I gave you two extra minutes.
>> I appreciate that. >> I just think it's not fair what's going on here. >> But everyone should be equal. Just because you own a business in town, maybe you donate a little to the town makes it
right. >> Who's next? I'd like to approach my parents show up here tonight as I said because I would like to witness what it means to stand up for what is right and I'm
hoping with all your help you'll be able to prove to them that just because you have a lot of money doesn't mean you get to write your own rules. I familiar. Those
two are photos. What do you think happens in the summer? Guarantee it's a lot worse. What I want to get is terrifying, but knowing the street they're going to be driving out
of every day is extremely scary. And I don't think there's any parent in this town that is going to be okay with that. And I will make sure that they all know that this was brought up in when something gobbing up and down my driveway because their
cars are riding over my driveway their cars get stuck in it. Imagine this. You're driving out of your driveway with your children in the car and there's a ramp. Excuse me. And they look at you and they say
I'm not close. What is the point of this town? And welfare of residents and visitors. health, safety and welfare of residents and visitors. With that being said, the
only moral solution is to enforce the originally agreed upon by the business. The solution is not to change the rules to better. >> Thank you. Can I just ask a quick question? Uh, how did you hear about the
parking spots that were proposed? Because we discussed that in close session, so I don't think any of that was public. >> It was just a rumor. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. >> If it's a rumor, it's a rumor, but it shouldn't have been brought out from
from close session. I just want >> But if I look at your mayor's page, it promotes transparency. Why is this >> Well, it's different the way things work. There there's stuff that's discussed in the back for legal reasons and protected. So, um, Am I allowed to ask? >> Well, it's just
>> Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, this is obviously a potential litigation issue. Uh, as you're aware, we've had meetings with your side and and Jolie own side and we're aware of the significance of the issues between the parties. So, to
the extent the council wanted to discuss it with me candidly and get attorney client privilege legal advice, they have the right to do so. When the council is in a position to want to act on something after having such deliberations, they are obligated to bring it here to public session and to
discuss it just like you have the right to bring something to the microphone as a member of the public. So everything's been done above board and I think mayor's you know comment is consistent with that. >> I guess my question is that we were process
and that was the end of it that they were going to follow the moving forward in the warehouse where they should have been getting deliveries the whole time and that is where we left it. I would love to know what happened between that conversation and the executive sessions. Why didn't
it end there? Why wasn't the barriers enforced? Why weren't they forced to do what they promised to do so that they could put the business in place? Why are we here? Why is this happening when agreed upon there in the room and we all walked out
and we said, "Okay, they're going to follow their Why are not being issued? Why were we cut out? >> My first time. >> This is your Facebook. Sorry. This is my first
time, you know, hearing about this. And I uh did my homework. I went to our planning board secretary and I just have not had time to read. I got them yesterday. Four emails from her with
about a dozen of the, you know, planning board information. And I'm I'm getting ready to for my own knowledge read all that. You know, >> your told about our side of the story. >> Your your time's up, but I I will also
say your time's up, but as as citizens, you guys could also go to court uh against Jolie, right? So, you don't have to you don't have to involve the council. You on your own could go uh file something against Jolie just as an
option. And again, your time's up. So, um we can't have discussion about that, but that's just letting you know that as a citizen, you can do that as well. >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. >> Anybody else for secondly enforcing laws
about it? My question held violation continues to do it. The council just to clarify and we do enforce violations over there.
I believe what the angle were speaking about where the is the actual zoning board how they're supposed to be running their business also again who gets
because their sidewalks and probably 10 15% of it got tickets. Some people right next door I across the street didn't both next door got a ticket one didn't. My neighbor across the street got one
for the first but it was 3 ft of solid ice that no one besides a back. So what was the method of madness for handing out those tickets? What was the thought process? How did how did we reach that decision? Who was going to get a ticket? Who was
>> We didn't I heard code enforcement said if they get a complaint they have to you know if somebody makes a complaint they have to go out and act on it. That's all I >> How many 83
>> Dan Dan I don't shoot the messenger. I'm just telling you what we were I was told from the park with >> just let you know I know the building department they targeted the the schools and downtown
the tickets. Now, the ones that weren't at the schools or downtown could have been from a complaint from a resident or whoever that it wasn't done and what I was told that being that we have an ordinance which obviously wasn't
enforce but being we have an ordinance that we have a complaint given to the town if they don't act on it and someone falls whatever the town becomes
along with the homeowner >> and that's >> but again that was it was public safety too. So, as Councilman Dick said, the schools downtown >> We had a lessons learned meeting after that storm and and that was was discussed about
>> really quick for some parts of town. I can understand, you know, maybe St. Easter going on the boardwalk beginning whatever bechvenue down there that's a tourist
>> and you have a lot of houses I mean I'm lucky I'm on the corner so we have a few spaces on the side street that are free that we can talk we have a whole bunch of people issue they're walking forever back I have friends of mine last Ocean Avenue in front of my house all
the way on the south end of town. I mean I understand rightwalk that area if there are events going on early in the year in the year that you need to delineate that area because you know people are parking those but no one I mean
no one is ever parking on that street until Memorial Day weekend and that's only on weekends that people park there anyway for those weeks. insane for those spaces to basically be unavailable to anybody who lives there. >> I think it's just a matter of confusion, right? If we say, "Okay, this section is
this date. This section is this day." It's just confusion to me. It's just March 1st. >> Two different signs. >> I think it's easier just to enforce code, hey, you know, because clearly you can see when tourists are coming to town, they
park next to each other. They in front of a business, they park by the beach entrance, they do that sort of thing. Three blocks to the south of town, somebody's parked in front of their house. You're not a tourist. There should be some common sense with this. If we can't change where it starts,
>> Daniel, your time's up. >> Thank you, John. You had something. And we did and we we implemented most of that the second time around the blizzard. So just increase communication uh specifically talking about the
ordinance and how much time you have. So I I know we peppered a ton of messages out there. Um we talked about, you know, some of the plowing activities and and coordination with the county, stuff like that. Um so yeah, I mean we implemented
that and we had I mean this the second storm was was excellent. Uh our DPW cleared all the streets, everything was great. You know, there were some issues with the county that I am meeting with the county in April on a whole bevy of other things, but that's one of the agenda items we're going to talk about. We did have to bring our own DPW
downtown to clear the snow out, but for the most part, uh we did talk about, you know, possibly issuing uh warnings, although it's very hard to do because all the summones come through now. So, by the time you issue a warning, you know, it's it's days after the fact. Um,
but we did try and get the big thing takeaway was just more uh messaging out to people. huge field. >> I got a message about that and we sent DPW shortly thereafter. Y >> officers
of ice obviously no footsteps. through the neighbor's yard. It's obvious there are discretion. >> That is correct. messed up.
>> Thanks, Sean. said around school and everything. I don't think that exists. >> Um I'll interject on that. Legally, we can't Yeah. We can't go after certain residents based on their status.
>> And you have every right to make that. >> Um and as far as snow removal, I mean that first snowtorm, second of course they come down and pile of snow right in front of my
house. I go out there three times. I know everybody has said that my house when they come they don't move that snow they don't even make a note. Yep. >> Thank you.
DJ with Danley. >> That's ridiculous. You know, it's just a matter of signage signage and education to make from Washington up down or whatever extend the parking
It's just commonly useless. >> All right. >> Anybody else? All right. Hear none. Can uh Close. Second public motion. >> Favor. >> And can I get a motion? >> Motion.