up SM this direction or something here stre sign yeah I think we skipped over the approval meeting come on upir ask what do you do there I know I don't remember you do here stand my first time doing okay you sure I can SAR now so we I own a marketing agency that we started uh right on the block and brick close to was 200 and so we mov point in 2020 um and so uh initially when I got into that building back to the question you know I'm I'm really aesthetic so all of my team was trying to get me to put window signage up it's actually our first building um because we have you know we have offices in New York and buildings so this is the first time we have a whole building so I didn't know that this was even a thing to be honest so apologize for that um but so it took four years for me to finally say all right I'm going to ruin the windows because I love the lighting in that building so I put it up but before that everybody always asked us seamlessly what the h social um and my only thing why I'm here today obviously as a small business owner is that you know for four years we've been in Point Beach we've gotten zero people ever walk in as a client since we put that up in April we've literally had over 55 new clients since April 55 as a small business owner so I don't know if you guys know what small business is but that really helps us so I want to be compliant obviously so what I what I did here um was my my little pitch is just obviously we have 10 windows so two on each side when you're coming uh each side of the train station and then obviously the fronts um my my pitch was to you know obviously dull down the sign you know it's very bright and in your face um so to obviously remove so right now obviously goes from top to window to bottom to window um my suggestion was the first two so remove uh the all the middle windows and have one or two faing and obviously minimized um to be about 40% um and then on the sides so that when we we have traffic sitting there for trains and a lot of the people that are coming from you know their manal homes or whatever going to train station on each side of traffic they're they're seeing it they're calling us um so my pitch was to have one window on each side so a total of four windows with minimized uh signage on them so take up top to bottom just the middle I first just top you know it's eye catchy I'm happy to hear it's effective but I think you got the sense before you came here this evening that's maybe a little on the busy side and I didn't I didn't know that I AP again like I had no idea this was even thing most of my buildings in New York Miami or in London are in buildings I don't have any Standalone besides buing so I just was like oh cool I can wrap the windows and then no I can't so um I want to be compliant I don't want to be rough obviously but just as a small business owner I would love the ability to have some form of signage we would we would reduce so I think what's really standing out the most and initially so like if you see right now like the red signage that we have here the the strip we would remove the strip I think that's what's really standing out and really like obviously catching your guys eyes as much as it is if it was just the wording obviously minimize so right now if you look at the wording the wording is maybe I want to say 25 30% but the the stripe is what's R and really your so my thought process was just completely removing the strip hope find a happy meeting we can improve it and still get traffic into as long as we have something in the windows I think that's the biggest thing because if I I had a dollar for every time somebody literally came in eventually or like pass by lives in neighbor friends a lot of people that in their neighborhood behind us they're like yeah before we had the windows everyone's like what is that thank the Lord thank you our brand Team we' approved a lot of window deals people walking by see deals window up opport yeah I I definitely really help yeah yeah we're we're a designer marke compan so I'll definitely I could have that tomorrow to you guys um to show you um the only thing too like obviously just to throw it out there like we when we first so think it was 2016 we initially were looking for space downtown um and you know and then obviously we were told that like as a as a non retail business we can't be downtown so I was like okay like on first floor right because I want that attention I want that traffic so you're not retail you can't be here okay so I went somewhere else obviously that's I'm saying right which which right which I was super excited forly we weren't able to do that so then OB once the opportunity that building came up it's super outskirts of town I don't know how close to bad but like literally there right so but like that's why I was so excited once we did it we started getting phone calls finally like people like oh I need this that and some of the people that are calling us it's like tremendous so like obviously we will do whatever we need to do to be compliant don't want to be annoying or or you know give anything back to that so yeah with Paul yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so cool so yeah so I guess on my side so I'll have a mo up to to you and Christ tomorrow and then obviously you know do I have to come back and present it okay got okay so so then I was praying I was like hopefully one more day yeah yeah how long has that have those been that way uh so we just had my my wife just had twins about two months ago thank you yeah thank you and so literally at that time it was like right before we had them they were installing it and then they went up I was in the hospital got an email and I was like oh  I can't I can't I can't have yeah yeah so it's literally it's been since I believe around on April so so certainly I'll have to come back because um any signs are prohibited on any window glass or door glass of any structure so certainly you still need it's not like so either way I'll get you guys it over and okay okay okay thank you guys so much appreciate congratulations thank you guys thank you have a great night continued success thank you so much thank you back to the top of the list car I'm glad you said it I looked at it without my glasses I was say chick sounds better I'm down the street too that's I am Valerie Mand and I just opened washt in the shopping plaza where country forums is it's kind of remote don't have a lot of walk and traff and I'm sorry yes and for my type of store which is a boutique um I larger signage I would like it and the sign that's allowed is small for people to view from the street so I do have a mockup from my oh you do okay wonderful and it's the the size of the sign that was already there um from society performers I don't need anything bigger than that yes they're not there yet for the lightings are an opportunity I don't D top down Shin on the yeah he just reced that that's kind of what the ordinance would dictate not a problem absolutely yes on the do windows the hours yes I would oh you have wonderful I'm here just like a month so come on by we got stuff okay perfect thank you so much thank you very much those are actually those signs part of this is yeah these are literally just decaps maybe before you get too farum recorder just your your name spell for the for the record I know you've been here before that's really it the back one is for the back door of the building it's really not a retail type location it's a more of a destination so it's a little uh and the image may be a little misleading um these are literally just white deals and where you see the gray um that's totally transparent yeah just glass and then uh the front of the building has got two good size windows and same idea um just another it's even less than you think it's just literally a you couldn't Cate my real estate office in the front and then this is really a sales office in the back it's all in the same space though are yeah the um as far as those signs that we're looking for the monument signs um I think it's just the way the the complex is developed and built that U people have a hard time figuring out where to go yeah yeah yeah I think you know believe is okay with the temporary signs you know yeah she told me she's okay with that so I think for while we'll just live with that and then perhaps we'll apply I think the more important one is on Maryland which won't be too offensive because that's you know the complex is proper just yeah perfect is there a motion from the board think we're down to our last sign application of the evening OB again I've been by the place a million times I just won remember is that is there a sign there now or just you're just changing the face of existing yeah so right now it's there's there as that's what we're would that's my thought anyway just on the existing the back sign is changing face en SS long I for now I'm done at o but and then I will be doing a bar po the road yes good Lu to you won't be see you anytime soon you guys have a great evening thank you long good evening everybody my name is Vincent Del Rio I'm attorney with RC Shan Associates and representing the applicants of William Kane and so um interal what this application is for is to subdivide an existing Beach lot and consolidate it into two residential lots behind the three lots we're talking about here are it's Lots six and seven and block seven and the beach lot is block three and block eight Bally what we're looking to do is eliminate the beach lot so you get two residential beach front Lots this is also going to work hand in hand with a uh anticipated vacation of an existing right way that's just to the east Behind These two properties um there's a couple variances that are associated with this but that's what we're looking to do in a nutshell so I'm going turn the floor over to Mr bck who here I do Robert bck professional engineer professional planner and starts um just a little background about 20 some more than 20 years ago as to get dedication of property joining subsequently there was back and forth and I'm not clear on how it worked but in the end the bur under took a taking of that property um so they they took the propert by and also vacated the right away this this property was not part of that but the subdivision as proposed does mirror exactly what was achieved yeah this is somewhat of an application for a minor the sub subdivision we're actually consolidating three lots into two the between Beacon Lane and the ocean basically and the owner the the applicant owns lot three which is the yellow lot lot six and lot seven which are also yellow lot six and seven have actually homes on them lot three is basically a dune lot the access to these lot is through a 15t access e out to beon East Avenue is a landlock Township unimproved street so it really doesn't make a lot of sense to have an unimproved Street here at all until you start getting into the project when we initially got that I think they just wanted to map when we realized and we did the subdivision is that Lots six and seven they're required to have 50 foot of Frontage and they're required to front on a public Street well East that or that landlock portion of East Avenue provides that Fage and provides um access to a public Street even though it's not an improve or an improved Street and it's basically a landlock portion Okay add the tax there's a portion of lot three that goes Eastward from the other Lots adjacent to it that's the portion that is anticipated to be dedicated to the township so that the township has more be area the township will also vacate East Avenue if this subdivision is approved and I believe that the Township's already pass resolution sort of saying they'd like to do this so what we will do with this property we will abandon lot three which is the back lot and just consolidate that with lot six and seven so that we have two lots actually okay uh the intent of the sub again is to to provide add access vty the other aties again existing LOM on but Access Lane through a 35t access eement that's that's been for a long and that we will continue it's actually part of5 right away is separate from there is a.4 foot set back for to the interi line that exists now we will keep that otherwise we have to move our home so that's a b variance that needs to be recognized another a of this is that we have a foot access to the beach along of lot six that public access to the beach serves only lot six because the1 51 actually access to the and the the the other issue is the town has requested the requested the applicant has consider Will consent to proposing a 5 foot conservation eement along the beach or the Eastern portion of the property the applicant still will agree to that as long as it does not interfere with their beach access which they have now which they would like to continue what's the [Music] only what the were back then really don't know know perhaps it was a way to get almost as much as they were up I don't I think it don't 25 wide and then this fo is which is not but not developable my only thought is maybe perhaps it had to do with the lot area that the owners going to maintain requ so you know once they dedicated purposes of coverage and those kind of things lose that the know maybe that's I'm just trying to think through what might have happened years ago that was kind of an issue we went back and forth on it we just want to make sure that our applicant can go across that conservation to get access to the beach which is what he does now so essentially we're looking to dedicate a portion of our lot to the town and the town have the town vacate East Avenue isolated or land locked right right the board should also be aware that we are not proposing any construction here everything will remain is the same but we're basically this is a paper sub with regard to Mr sav's letter 612 and specifically going through the proposed improvements portion paragraph number one notes that variances are required for loot frage for both Lots again we do have Frontage now but that's on an unimproved landlock right away we will since that's going to be abandoned we're not going to have Frontage so we do request that variance similarly Lots must front on a public Street well since we're losing again or unproved RightWay we're losing our public we do request that variant for both lot six and seven the access to the lot access for the last St exact was as stated in lot three will be eliminated and that property will be Consolidated into lot six and seven making them 61 701 paragraph four relates to the access which we just talked about that is through that 15ot and a of it shoots off through L1 which is now for thepose of has been that way for a number of years we don't want to change it are you going to just technicality it's hard I'm not sure if I'm looking at the plan the right way but is are you going to need to do an easement for the benefit of lot yeah from 6.01 through 7.1 that's just this little sliver right this little triangular in order to make the turn from the access onto the lot and that's basically the way it is now so and that might actually exist as lot six and seven now okay paragraph five reates that the Eastern portion of lot three will be dedicated to the burrow and at again at the Burrow's request that 5 foot EAS is conservation eement is proposed along that property line between the lot and the beach and the applicant will dedicate that provided again they continue their beach access paragraph six kind of goes into the existing access along the side here what we intend to do is if this subdivision is approved and it's subject to review from the state and the is move this access from the northern property line to the common property line so that lot seven can go directly to the beach and lot six can go directly to the beach we don't know whether we're going to be successful in moving that we can't move them now because we don't have the Lots the Lots don't exist but it makes sense to have a common access to the beach down the middle on boths acc forp of two access we looked into that and we really don't know but effectively the only people that reallys six and seven because the mean ACC there is no yeah pretty much it sense's your sense your s have to go through L six and however if we can't get this access move then we will end up having toate some kind of access us that so as long as these people have access to the beach that's the main now they go through the right to the beach access ACC exists I believe so but that's going to be subject to to review of the and other areas I'm not sure that you get a second one if you subdivide your be lot again and if we we'll just keep what we have and create a less desirable but effective way to deal with the situation paragraph s lot is encumbered byui basically so we really can't develop L three that storm damage reduction of the actually the key andon M the plan however something happens when I try to to email a PDF they don't show up well so next time I'll do a PDF uh paragraph n we have a couple of setbacks the will correct that paragraph 10 obviously the subdivision will require the B to vacate the East Avenue right away our understanding that the B has expressed the desire to do so so the sub with regard to the variances obviously this is a unique subdivision and although simple enough the technical issues andan it brings up a bit complicated uh but we believe that the subdivision complies with the municipal land use law by providing appropriate use and development of of the property in a manner which benefits the town the burrow by increasing beach run property while at the same time it benefits the applicant by creating two Beach direct access LS uh therefore we believe the variances can be granted Zing reest cover yourie yes Mr chair I think we should let the satisf sounds a little overly complicated for subdivision but personally I don't I don't see anything objectional about my a yes very much think we got some time to chat is that