I can I'm always been out of issues agenda council meeting in the borrow council night center and council municipal corporation in the county of the meeting will begin at 700 p.m. on February 11th,
2026 in the municipal building, 25 Lennox Avenue, Compton Lakes, consistent with the open public meetings act. The meeting will be open for public comments and shall be in accordance with the terms and conditions of the burrow's municipal code and bylaw.
>> Please stand for a flag salute to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Please bless this mayor and council as they deliberate on the best of Pompton
Lakes. >> Request compliance. >> Oh, I'm sorry. In conformance with the open public meeting law, public law 1975 chapter 231, adequate notice of this meeting setting forth the dime, time, date, place, and purpose of this regular
meeting through notice posted on the bolton board in the municipal building mailed to all requested and paid for same and published in the suburban trends. Roll call. >> May >> here. >> Council president >> here. >> Councilman Bay >> here. >> Councilman Cruz >> here.
>> Councilman Hinton >> here. Councilman Sans >> here >> and Councilman Ben >> here. >> With us this evening is our burough attorney Mark Morero and our burough administrator Michael Car. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Police Chief Anthony Rodri.
>> Okay. Under my updates. I have an appointment within vice and consent of the burough council for our tax appeal attorneys uh Robert Odike and David Rutenberg. Can can I have a motion? >> Motion. >> Councilman Cruz. Councilman Hinton. All in favor? >> Okay.
Um motion to open the meeting for public comments. >> So moved. >> Councilman Cruz, Councilman Hinton. All in favor? I >> against. Anyone from the public by address? I'll speak once. >> Seeing no one, can I have a motion to close the public session?
>> Motion. Councilman Bennon, Councilman Cruz. All in favor? I >> against. Motion to approve the following minutes. Special open council meeting minutes January 28th, 2026. Regular January 28th, 2026. Close session January 28th, 2026. Can I have a motion?
>> Motion. >> Councilman Sanders. Who's that? Sanders. >> Second. >> Councilman Bennett. All in favor? >> Against. Uh, authorizing bills and claims as listed below. Can I have a motion? >> Motion. >> Councilman Bennett. >> Second.
>> Council President Kent. All in favor? >> Against? >> Uh, consent agenda. Anybody need anything removed? >> Okay, seeing none, Liz. Oh, that one. >> Um, I had a question on um
26115 and um would like to make a statement on 26 116. >> Well, you can't make a statement. You have a question. You may have a question. Um,
>> what would my question be? >> Do you want me to first read it in? >> Yeah. >> Where is the mayor and burrow council? The burrow council lakes have such a consistent resolutions whereas the mayor burough council and burough council does
desire to remove resolution from that from individual actions from that agenda. And now therefore that the following resolutions on the consent agenda are hereby approved. Resolution 26-93 through 26118. We're going to move 26115
and 2616. >> Yes. Okay. I got a motion. >> Councilman Cruz, Councilman Big. All in favor? >> Against. Okay. 26115 >> on 115. No, he's going to read it.
>> Award contract to Evan Green consulting hospital for the bar tree inventory services. >> Okay. Question. Yeah, we just I had a a conversation with our administrator about this and um they're setting up an
inventory of trees in the town of Papa Lakes and um we're trying to work it out whereas they're going to be how would I word that um administrator uh they're going to be
through the years a um we have to pay a fee Right. So, uh, as part of this contract award, so for those of you that aren't aware, uh, the Burough Pump and Lakes received a $22,000 grant from the New Jersey Department of Environmental
Protection for updates to our community forestry management plan, which was previously contracted out to John Lintson, our burrow arborist, uh, which actually has been completed already. We've circulated a draft to the Shade Tree Commission already. Um, so we're
looking for comments back on that. But as part of the grant, uh, we did receive funding for a burrow tree inventory. What that is is the contractor, uh, basically goes around town, they survey all of the street trees in Pompton Lakes
within the rightway. Uh, the cost is $7.50 per tree surveyed. Uh the approximate uh amount of trees is 1,866 trees that will be surveyed in Poppin Lakes. And what Councilman Hinton is
alluding to is as part of this the data that is furnished is an Excel spreadsheet, a PDF report from the arborist uh for the project and also a Google Earth plotter where the residents and members of the
Sha Tree Commission and Burough staff can go into the software. There's going to be thousands of trees plotted on this Google Earth uh system. You could pull up the tree. It's going to give you a picture of the tree. Wow. The diameter, the any diseases, utility conflicts, you
know, etc., etc. So, as part of that Google Earth software, the state of New Jersey does not fund the subscription cost for that software. So although we're getting $14,000 for the tree inventory, uh the the
program which is called Arbor Pro Urban Forest Management, the 5-year cost for the subscription service is $18,000. >> Wow. >> So, you know, it's kind of a uh sole proprietor situation. Uh there's not
many other, you know, uh sufficient uh softwares that can be used. in speaking to our arborist John Litson. Um so this is something that either the commission the Sha tree commission is going to have to invest in through the budget process or we do away with the Google Earth
system and just you know monitor our Excel spreadsheet that we get. So Councilman Hinton and I talked about that today and I think we're going to bring it back to the shade tree commission to talk about further. Yeah, I just that's why I wanted to bring it up so the council really knew did a
little more in-depth look at it. I mean uh for $18,000 for five years just to know where the trees are and what kind of trees they are. I mean Councilwoman Kent had talked about a long time ago as far as heritage trees in town. We would like to know where they are. trees that
are over 200 years old, you know, but I mean to pay $18,000 for to know where the how many oaks are in town, uh I just think it was tax dollars for information that >> Yeah, I I agree with you 100%. So, I think that's a lot of money um for
information we already have. And we have an very active shade tree commission that maybe could do some of this leg work if they wanted to, you know, at a cost or we could even throw them a little money to get them gas and figure out how many oak trees or large trees or things. But, uh >> I mean, it's all it's all pertinent information.
>> No, I get it. No, it makes sense. And I'm sure everybody kind of agrees that's a big number. >> I was arguing with the subscription rate. >> Yeah, I agree. No, I agree. >> But we're still getting the 22,000. >> Correct. >> Correct. in mind >> that's what this that's what this resolution is >> right and the inventory is required to
maintain our UCF accreditation through the sha tree commission uh so I would recommend awarding the contract but uh to Councilman Hinton's point I think maybe in the future we'll possibly use the shade tree commission to update the data >> yeah sure that's what I'm thinking >> you know because councilman Hinton can
take down a tree in his front yard tomorrow and the inventory was completed yesterday >> but that tree is going to be there for the life of the inventory so We need someone to go in and update the doc. So, we have a very proficient commissioner on the Sha Tree Commission who's a
professor uh who's willing to do the maintenance for us. Uh so, I think we're going to utilize her >> with her students. Yeah. >> Right. >> Mayor, if I may, if it's worth $75 a week, if it costs more than $75 a week to do all that, then the software is worth it. If it's less than $75 a week,
then it's not worth it. >> What? You're saying the software to just identify the trees? >> No. What? What? What? Uh, Administrator Curley was talking about >> to maintain the >> to maintain. Yeah. >> Oh, okay. >> Um, okay. So, right now we're voting just on the contract on the 22. We're not voting on the uh software
>> software, right? Correct. Okay. So, everybody, we're not voting on the software now. >> I just wanted to bring that out. >> All right. So, let's um Can I have a motion for 26115? >> Motion. >> Council President Paul uh Council President Kent and Councilman uh who was
that. All in favor? >> I against. Okay. 20 16 I think it was. >> Yeah. 26 2016 resolution authorizing the execution of shared service agreement with the Bur of Oakland division of
solid waste recycling and vegetative waste collection services. >> Okay. Question. >> Uh the question is I I would like a little summary of u what's going on with this uh resolution if uh our administrator can give us a little summary. Yeah, I think the summary was
given to you in close session. It was given to >> correct. So for the public, there was a lot of >> Well, we can't talk about the contract in public until it's official until we vote on it. So we can't talk about anything that's not voted on. Yeah. Can't talk about numbers and contracts and all those things until it's approved. Um that's that's a privilege
with the information right now. >> Can we talk about the services, mayor? >> Not even the services because we didn't vote on those things yet. >> Once we vote on it, then we can talk about it in public. Yes. >> Okay. >> Okay. So Mike, if you want to add anything to that, >> I would defer to Mark's opinion on the
matter. >> I I I certainly think you could discuss what the what the benefit of the agreement is and why you're doing it. >> Yeah, I we can do that, but I we can't specifically talk about numbers yet because if it's voted down for some reason, then
>> Right. If I I understand what you're you're if if it's voted down for some reason and then you're uh in pushed into a situation where you're forced to renegotiate it. >> Okay. Uh I didn't think about it that way. I that makes sense. I mean the governing body certainly is aware of
what the numbers were in close session. Uh and certainly we could illuminate it a little bit further. Um with that in mind, I I certainly think that the administrator could indicate what the benefits are. uh and uh that there's a a
financial advantage and interest in uh the bureau pursuing it and then we could illuminate the public to to exactly what what the numbers are or even at that point in time the the the contract's public record. We could even you know publish it. It doesn't matter. >> So I think I'm going to let our administrator talk but I mean uh after
this is approved we will have a whole explanation to the uh town of what we're doing and how it's going to work. There is no plan to put in place yet. Exactly. As we you all are aware that it's going to take six months to make that happen. So there you know we've had a lot of steps in between there. But I'll let Michael just go over the highlights of
what we're looking at. >> Thank you, mayor. So in summary, uh we've renegotiated with the Burrow of Oakland for the provision of solid waste recycling and vegetative waste collection services. Uh for residents out there to make it simple, we will be
collecting the Burrow of Oakland's garbage moving forward uh if adopted. Um the benefits to the uh agreement, well to go back to the scope of the agreement, um it's uh by it's twice a week garbage, twice a week recycling
pickup, uh vegetative waste pickup for the Burrow of Oakland. uh they have a very similar schedule to the burrow of popped lakes which is why it worked so well for us uh to be able to collect uh collect their uh garbage. Uh some of the benefits of the agreement is uh in order
to facilitate set agreement we are going to need to hire nine full-time employees which is all captured in the fee that we're charging the bur of Oakland. Uh included in inclusive in that fee is the cost of health benefits, pension and
fringe benefits. Um we are uh getting two new garbage trucks out of the deal. Uh we are going to be initially renting trucks as part of the agreement. Uh but we are getting two new garbage trucks in addition to a new
pickup truck. Um and funding to purchase dumpsters for the burrow of Oakland. They have 32 dumpster locations. We have over 200 in Poppin Lakes just so the res I >> I don't know if you mentioned that's p the cost is being picked up right >> for that. >> So all in all uh we are charging a fee
for the for the services all of our hard costs are accounted for in the fee with escalating provisions on you know increases to health benefits uh fuel maintenance uh equipment costs and whatnot. Um
there is a there is a profit benefit to the P to to the burrow of Pmpton Lakes which is well over you know 1.2 million over the term of the agreement. Um you know aside from that most importantly uh when you look at the labor staff costs
it it's basically equivalent to about three full-time employees. If you look at the time that they're going to be working in the Burrow of Oakland versus the time that they're going to be here in the burrow of Compton Lakes. Again, once we get all the routes in order and everyone is proficient in collecting
this the uh garbage, uh you're looking at about three full-time employees uh out of the agreement, which is also a great benefit to us, which will add to our parks, our open space properties, and we'll be able to help our buildings and grounds division moving forward. Um
>> so, let me just add to what he he was saying. The cost of the garbage trucks, the cost of the boxes, the cost of the truck that we're talking will be paid for by Oakland. They're paying us back. We're putting up the money then they pay us back for that for that cost. So the town will not be putting out any money
for any of those things. The town will not be putting out any money for the benefits for the employees, for the health care, for the retirement, for the fringe benefits they get. That's all being paid for by Oakland. The way the program is hoping to work after we get it down a little bit is they will
probably be working this these new nine employees will probably be working in Oakland probably till around noon and then they come back to Pmpton Lakes and like our administrator was saying help us. we get extra nine employees to do some of the work in town which is the ball fields and the parks and the
maintenance of the things that we're looking at plus the fact that we're getting we're getting uh it's a shared service that we're getting paid on and you know the state recommends as many shared services as we can do. So, in all in all, this is a good a good thing for us. It's a good thing for the for the town of Oakland.
>> And uh I just want to highlight on tonight's agenda, we did have a contract award for Bruno Associates, which which is a grant writing firm. Uh we did reach out to Bruno. There is a program called the local efficiency achievement program, which funds up to $350,000
for the onset of equipment uh for new shared service agreements. So, we are retaining Bruno. We are applying for the cost of the garbage trucks. Uh so if we are successful in the grant of 350,000 um and this is a model application, by
the way, it's a great program that the state looks on. Um you know, you could be looking at an extra profit in that matter. So we're excited to see what Bruno can do for us and we're hoping we get that grant. So thank you. >> Okay. Any comments, questions? >> If I may, just one final point. uh in
talking to the burrow of Oakland today, we're going to put out a joint press release and also an FAQ for the public uh on the level of services uh joint press release that we'll put out so everyone is aware in the public. Um so just wanted to highlight that >> and there will be much more added to
this when it comes public. There's other things that we didn't even talk about yet that are also part of this project, but what it all gets done we we'll figure that all out. >> Um FAQ is frequently asked questions, >> right? Thank you. >> Okay. Um, I would just like to comment
also on this. Whereas I think Michael has done a great job, you know, work has done a great job. >> Um, they've looked into this extensively as we all have and uh, I just wanted this information brought out to hold. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Can I have a motion for resolution
26116? >> Motion. >> Councilman Venin, Council President Kent. All in favor? I >> against. Okay. Ordinances. Whenever you're ready. >> If I may. Mark, do you need a roll call? >> Want a roll call now? >> On 116. You should. Yeah.
>> Okay. Roll call, please. >> Councilman, >> yes. >> Councilman, >> yes. >> Council, >> yes. >> Council, >> yes. >> Councilman, >> yes. >> Yes.
Ordinances. >> Yep. >> Ordinance for first reading. Final adoption will be on February 25th, 2026. Ordinance amending chapter 190, article 4 of the municipal code of the burough of council lakes to address the burrow's
affordable housing obligations under the fair housing act and the uniform housing affordability controls. >> Before we get to motion, I'm going to have our attorney just give us a highlight of what that is. >> Uh, sure. Uh this uh zoning ordinance is uh necessary for us to fulfill our
affordable housing uh obligations. It's uh part of the uh steps that I had uh indicated uh at the last council meeting were necessary to bring our affordable housing plan into compliance. >> Okay. Thanks. Motion to approve ordinance number 2605 for introduction.
>> Motion. Councilman Santers. Councilman Cruz. Roll call, please. >> Councilman Sanders. Yes. >> Councilman Benn. >> Yes. >> Councilman B. >> Yes. >> Councilman Cruz. >> Yes. >> Councilman Dick. >> Yes. >> Council President.
>> Yes. >> Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh okay. Under my report, we'll start with um you know, once again, our tiny little town made world news on channels 2 and 10. Probably not for the best thing in the world, but you know, the awning that blew off at the gas station did actually
make world news on. So that's national news. One one news agency named the town. The other news agencies just said a town in New Jersey, but if they're that desperate for news about an awning falling off in New Jersey, that just tells you it was a slow news day. Um so
but we made the news, so that's what happens. Um I I performed a couple weddings. Uh I had a meeting with along with the administrator and our clerk um about the housing uh the new housing uh building that's being built for vets and
seniors. Uh the paperwork is going to be available around March 18th uh for an application. You can pick up the application here in the in Burough Hall on that date only. We won't have them before that. March 17th or 18th for I >> it's one of those. It's 17th or 18th and
then or it'll be on the county website. Uh the way that it's it's working is that the county will be deciding who's getting in. There's income verifications and things, but the point system, the way it works is you if you're a vet, you get two points. If you're you live in Pompton Lakes, you get two
points. If you live in Pacific County, you get one point. People who get the most points and meet the income verification will be allowed in. You know, we're hoping to get some vets into this. You know, we want our vets to be taken care of. So, this would be a good start for them to be in there. And then the next step would be for our seniors
who want to stay in the town that they've been in a long time. I I know all three of us and many people up here have had people reach out to them on how to do this. We have no part in the process. We do not pick or all we could do is gear you to the right place. Steer you to the right place. Fill out the application, get it in and wait for an
answer. So if you have any questions, call the housing authority in Pose County or wait till the 17th and 18th and you can pick up the uh forms there. I attended the uh ambulance squad uh dinner. Uh what they always do a nice event. It's uh great food, great people.
Again, a volunteer organization that goes out of their way to help our residents all the time. You know, this is not a nineto-ive job. They're riding that rig, you know, all day sometimes and getting a call at 4 in the morning. I know that they get they listed the winners of the most calls. They were
thousands of hours. And we're not talking, you know, 200 hours. there were 1,200,500 hours that they're putting in as a volunteer, not getting paid away from their families to do this. So, I thank everybody in that squad. We have a great squad between Riverdale and our and
ourselves. We take care of that. We will be buying a new new ambulance and Riverdale will be buying purchasing a new ambulance for them to eat cupcake. We do so well that the county has we cover other towns because sometimes the county can't get to them. We actually have enough people sometimes during the
day to cover our our our groups. A lot of towns are having tough times with ambulance van. So I thank them for everything they do. Uh today I had a meeting with the engineers to talk about the Willow Field project. We were moving along great. It was all set to go. Everything was on
time and then this darn snow hit. Uh we can't do anything till the snow disappears. Uh they can't work. They can't clear the snow. There's nothing that can be done at this moment. It might push the project back about a month or so. We've spoken to little league and and soccer about having to adjust their schedules a little bit. Uh
there's nothing we can do until the snow is gone. So that that's unfortunate. We also had I also had a finance committee with a couple of the members up here. We talked about our capital uh budget um which for the public we have, you know, the capital side is the things we need in town and then there's the expense
side that we the things we spend. we to stay on top of things in in any town, you have to keep up on your capital budget. If you don't replace equipment, if you don't replace police cars, if you don't replace firet trucks, things break down and then you're in trouble. So, we try to stay on top of that, but we try
to do it responsibly so it doesn't hurt the budget so much. But at the end of the day, in my opinion, every year we should be addressing these concerns because capital things come up every single year from every department from fire, police, OEM, ambulance. These are
all capital things there and I think the committee met and had some good comments about that. So I think you'll hear more this council will hear more about it in in a meeting we'll have and then we'll bring it out to the public and that is my report. Uh council president. >> Uh thank you mayor. Um I just want to
thank the DPW workers for all of the snow removal. Uh, I know there was an issue because the Bisaya County uh, uh, transportation crew did not come and do what I felt was an adequate job initially and our DPW and Mayor, thank
you. Uh, came in and actually removed the necessary snow from the downtown areas that should have been removed in the first place and then of course then Pay County did come in after the fact. But I do want to thank them for all their hard work and you know they did a
great job after that. So, I want to thank them for that. Um, we do have a coyote iss coyote issue on Summit Avenue. I know I think I I don't know if we're going to meet with the um uh animal control officer, but I I did
speak with them. What what's happening in these two coyotes some decided to make make home underneath one of the uh person's deck on Summit Avenue and so there's concern they left now they're back. So, we have >> in a different spot >> in a different spot. But then we have to
we have to figure out what's going on with that because neighbors are very concerned about their their dogs and walking their dogs, their children. They do walk and we have a lot of uh children that walk home from school on Lakeside. So, we do have to take a look at that and see what we can do. Um
we got to get that addressed. Um I did go I attended the flood advisory board. Uh just an update that we are looking to purchase the drone to do the flyover for the streams. That's very important because that's going to hopefully uh help us remove whatever trees need to be
removed from the three rivers um before the uh rainy season in the spring. So we're looking to do that. And one of the flood board members, longtime flood board members thought she was moving. She's not. So, we don't need an extra
alter alternate uh people on the board. And that's a hard board to fill because there's so many federal and state rules about flooding and insurance. So, uh we're lucky she's going to stay. She's staying in town. So, we're very happy to have Pat. Mrs. Loy, she does a great job
for us. And I wanted to I was invited uh because I was on DPW for many years as a leazison, but Frank's Italian restaurant did a really nice job in inviting the um the first responders free evidently free
dinner and it was really very nice. Saw the police uh DPW fire, they were all there enjoying the meal. So I want to thank I want to thank them and again wonderful shops and shop owners that we have giving that back to the community
and uh I was going to ask our attorney if he had an update on the DuPont uh 75 million distribution letter that you know can you give us an update on that? >> Sure council president. Uh I had uh as you requested I uh contacted uh Dave
Rutenberg to find out and confirm uh that his letter went unanswered and he confirmed that in fact he did not receive any response. Uh I uh obviously uh looked at the letter. I agree with its content. uh the whole concept behind
uh this award and not having money directed to the uh for lack of a better word victims of the contamination is is is somewhat mindboggling. Uh so we are in a a process of preparing a follow-up letter. Uh my partner Scott's currently
working on it. I it should go out tomorrow morning. >> Oh, good. Uh, and uh, we'll we'll try to keep their feet to the fire and we'll have it on a a monthly tickler. So, we're gonna keep on following up. >> Uh, probably makes sense to to copy the senator on it and see if he could do
anything to try to push it along for us. >> Our senator and assembly. >> Yeah, I've I've had many conversations with them. They're going to do what they can from their side. they are aware of it and they are you know all everyone that I talk to in state government is bewildered the fact that the people that don't get money in these towns but yet
they're the ones making the decisions so at the end of the day something has to change there I mean >> it's almost like the state came in just to to circumvent and take money that would otherwise money had been dedicated to municipalities >> they've done nothing they've done nothing we're the ones who had all the burden
>> and even 1% of that money is a huge number for our fur >> absolutely absolely Absolutely. >> Okay. >> Thank you. Thank you, councelor. >> And that is my report. >> Thank you. And thank you for reminding me about Frank's, another great establishment here in town. I know they did one for our DPW and they also did
one for our fire and first aid and and ambulance squads. And I know it was well attended. Um it was free to anybody who came in. All they had to do is say they were first responders. Great business in town supporting our town. That's what we like to see. And those are the kind of places we like to come in and do. So again, I thank them for also doing that.
That was very nice of them. Okay, who's next? I didn't even look at the list. Uh, Councilman Santers. >> Thank you, Mayor. Uh, just a brief uh brief uh you attended both board of ed meetings uh the last couple weeks. Um
I'd like to recognize two students for their achievements. Um Ion Khan, an eighth grader from uh Lakeside. He finished first place in the gifted and talented spell be from Pose County. over
80 students participated from the county. So, he finished first. And also Chad McConnell, a junior wrestler from Pump Lakes High School, had his 100th win last week. He has an average over 33 wins per season. He still has a few
matches left this year and he has his senior year, so he'll have well over 100 wins. And u and also uh Dr. Amaroso will be resigning from the board of ed uh August 31st, 20 uh 26,
>> right? He'll be retiring, right? >> Yeah, he was retiring. Yes. >> Say that again. What? >> Dr. is retiring in August. Yes. >> He announced that to the to the public. >> That's a big loss for the town of public. >> Very big loss. >> It is because anybody who's been in town a while knows he started as a teacher in
Lakeside and his claim to fame is he never forgets the student's name. you know that you could go back 15 years and he'll remember your name. >> I don't even remember my wife's name sometimes. I don't know how you can do that. But >> and also, you know, DPW did a great job
downtown. I drive around Pay and Bergen County towns all day long and our town by far um went beyond uh you know what other towns did. Other towns you can't even still can't even drive through
them. So, um, no, well done. Uh, that's my report. >> And just, and I know we reported about this at the last council meeting, but to the residents, if you're unhappy with what the county did, and I know some residents did reach out to the county. That is the way to do it because they listen. They do respond to that. You
know, just like anybody else, they hear complaints from the residents in town, they'll make a move. They don't hear complaints, they don't make a move. So, it's probably best if you felt the, and I did, too. I felt the roads were horrible. Hamburg to this date still is not two lanes. I don't see how they
haven't fixed that yet, but it's still not two lanes. Um, so if you feel obligated to send an email to the county if you feel you're especially if you're on a county road, you know, and we can we have a list that can tell you who's on county roads. If you feel the county road wasn't snow properly, you can reach out to them and say, "I'm very unhappy
with that." That's the way to go about doing that. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh, Councilman Bennett. >> Thank you, Mayor. Uh, I have relatively short report. A lot of my committees have not met uh yet this month. Um I also want to echo echo um Councilman um Santor comments about the snow removal
downtown WQ A looks amazing. There's no snow on the sidewalks at all. Hopefully moving forward we can coordinate with the bid and have it done on a regular basis uh if it does snow like this again. Uh also I was at the uh appreciation dinner last night at Frank's. Well attended. I sat with a
couple of first aid folks and a bunch of firefighters came in just as I had to leave. So, thank you to Franks for holding that. Uh, attended a finance committee meeting that the mayor alluded to earlier. Uh, we had to make some tough decisions. Of course, I want to say yes to everything the police department, the fire department wants to
say, but we can't get a new vehicle for everyone every year. But to the mayor's point, if we don't and kick the can down the down the road, then we have we're stuck with replacing a bunch of new vehicles or a bunch of vehicles in one shot. So, it's a it's a balancing act because and I'll say till the bloom in
the face of the dollar we collect of your tax money about 55 cents goes to the board of ed 20 cents goes to the county and 25 cents one quarter is what the bureau gets to spend and that's on police vehicles that's on fire vehicles ambulance uh DPW all of it 25 cents I
think we do a pretty pretty good job and that is my report mayor >> okay thank you Councilman Bake you have a couple motions there >> yep uh so First uh motion to approve the request of Lauren Bennon and surrounding neighbors to host a block party on Sunset Road on Saturday, June 20th, 2026
from 12 until 8:00 p.m. No rain. Um police, fire, first aid uh to be notified. >> Have a second. >> Second. >> Council President Kent. All in favor? >> I against. >> Okay. And uh I have a motion to approve the request of the Pontton Lakes PVA
Local 161 to hold a 5K run walk in Hurstville Park on Saturday, June 6, 2026 beginning at 9:00 a.m. The course would follow the same route as the one used for the 5K run walk event on Pmpton Day. No road closures are necessary for this route in addition to police, fire,
first aid to be notified. >> Can I have a second? >> Second. >> Councilman Bennett. All in favor? >> Against. >> Okay. Thanks. >> All right. Um, so on Monday night I attended the uh first responders dinner at Frank's Pizzeria. Um, they did put out a buffet of their specialty food. I
just want to thank the owners, Jean, Tony, and Cynthia for their generosity and support to our first responders. Um, after the uh dinner, I went over to the high school and attended the Hardwood Classic. It was a great event promoting a drug and alcohol-free community for our youth. Um, last night I attended the
Chamber of Commerce dinner uh meeting held at I guess Spazani uh catering and food design in Butler. Um they're part of the Pton Lakes Chamber of Commerce. And if people don't know, as an FYI, our Chamber of Commerce allows businesses from other towns to join our Chamber of Commerce. So there there were business
owners from Butler, Bquantonic, and Riverdale's as well in attendance. Um Chief Rodriguez was there as well. Um and spoke last night. Uh when he was done, he held a Q&A. Um and that was very beneficial to our business owners. So thank you for doing that. Um couple of announcements. Rotary Beast Stake
will take place on Saturday, May 9th at the Bloomingale Fireman's Hall. Tickets can be purchased through Sue Baron. Um, this year Carpadulla will be honored, so hopefully it'll max out and sell out. Um, big bucks go on sale Saturday. Get there early. Sales from 10:30 to 1 or
while supplies last in the high school parking lot. No cash, only checks are accepted and only one transaction per customer. >> Um, >> so somebody asked me this just to verify, one per customer. So if there's two people in the car, they can each get one. >> I would say yes. That's what we seniors.
A lot of the seniors don't drive, >> right? >> So, it's >> okay. >> It's not one per vehicle. >> It's one purpose. >> One purpose. >> Yes. And in the future, they hope to bring it back to the bid office >> so that they can sell it. You know, people walk in and that way they're in town hopefully using the bid box right away. So,
>> um and then lastly, here are some wreck and town events. Uh Nights of Columbus are hosting an Irish dinner on March 7th at 6:00 at the Carnival Center. Um for reservations, please contact Keith Aern. Um, Iris Dancing with Father John will be Wednesday, February 25th from 7:00 to
8 at the Carnival Center. U, the cost is $5 per class. Um, reminder that the walking club is moved indoors at Lakeside Middle School on Tuesday and Thursday nights from 7:00 to 8:00. Um, it is free of charge. Um, the women's get fit club is every Monday and Wednesday from 7:00 to 8:00 at Lincoln
School. Pickle ball is every Saturday morning from 9:00 to 11:00 at Lincoln School. Um, last four ones. Uh the Ponto Hanks Riverdale Little League is running a beef snake and turkey tray on Saturday, March 9th um at the Nights of Columbus and Butler. The price is $65 a person and the doors open at 6. The
Easter egg hunt moved off of the calendar is on March 28th at uh the Hersville tennis courts. The hunt begins at 2:00 and you need to bring your own basket. Um breakfast with the Easter Bunny is Saturday, March 21st from 9 to 11:00 at Lakeside Middle School. Uh the seating is limited. No tickets will be
sold at the door. And lastly, the Knights of Columbus is hosting a fish fry on Ash Wednesday, February 18th at the Carnival Hall Center. And that's my report. >> Thank you. You know what's important about the bid buck sales besides the benefit you get from buying the bid bucks is the bids can keep track of
where these people are coming to buy the the bid dollars from. And what they're really looking for is from people from other towns coming into our town to buy money to spend. And we we've seen a growth in that area. You know, we've seen people from Wayne and other other areas coming in to shop in in in town.
That's why the bid program is such an important program because once you have those dollars in your hand, you can only use them in Pompton Lakes. So once they purchase them, we know they're coming back to shop and that's a huge bonus. And and if people aren't familiar, you many people might not be familiar with what the problem is. You buy $150 worth
of bid dollars for $100. They the the the owners of the establishments you use them in, which is most of the businesses downtown, get full value back for them. They don't there's no discount to them. If you spend $22, they get a check from us for $22 for the bid dollars. So that we do
this to help incentivize working and and selling in our town. The business owners lose nothing. The public makes out $50 and we we can keep track. So it's all in all one of the best programs the bid has ever put together. And I can tell you other towns have copied it because it works out so well.
>> Uh mayor, >> yeah, >> can we use them at the coin store? >> We're working on that. We're working on that. I did I did talk to him actually. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Uh but you can use them at gas stations even. I mean, you can use them anywhere. Uh Councilman Cruz. >> Thank you, Mayor. Good evening, everyone. I attended the uh board of
education conference meeting. Uh before the meeting began, Dr. Um Jay Kernenko, he um had a curriculum report and basically highlighted the history program that they run out of lakeside um which was really nice and they covered many different periods obviously with the program. Um he's interested to see
how the kids are so much engaged now with history and um and then the segue to that was uh Dr. um was a teacher Mr. Hale um brought in the debate team from the school and an interesting topic was immigration and it was very nice to see
how they were going back and forth proof and point questions and answers for that and they did a really nice job. I say it was probably about 30 minutes of them going back and forth all we prepared questions and answers um and it was a full house. I think uh me and um Councilman Sanders were sitting up at the office. We couldn't even get in. So
it was really nice to see that. Um, I also attended the installation dinner for the first aid squad and just a few highlights from that other than the fact that it was a fantastic place. It was great to see everybody just um enjoying the time there. Uh, for the first squad
updates, I just want to recognize and congratulate their 2026 officers. We have Chief Walter Gossson, Assistant Chief Sean Phillippy, Captain Mike Bosto, Lieutenant Amanda Gosson. Try anyway. I say the name wrong. I apologize. Treasurer Kener Rosari,
Recording Secretary Dan Catrell, corresponding Secretary Taylor Gossen and Trainee Cindy Reirden. We also want to recognize and would like to congratulate Kyle Pazola, Savannah Gumbert, and Jay Greco on their CPR save, Dan Catrell, Rick Saraphene, Mike
Faletto, and Deborah Ross on their outstanding performance award out of pediatric trauma. Again, this is fantastic. uh many members who celebrate a milestone in their years of service ranging from 5 to 25 years. Three members who took the most calls for 2025, Mike Fosaltto, Amanda Gosen, and
Deborah Ross. And three members who rendered the most number of duty hours for 2025, Mike Fosaltto, Amanda Gosen, and Kenrizari. And I just want to highlight that for 2025, they handled, 192 calls. >> Absolutely amazing. And again, this is
through the partnerships obviously with other towns and municipalities where they too have to go out there and help um them as well. And you know, I did skip one little thing for the board of ed. Congratulations to Mrs. Ki on being recognized as teacher of the marketing period. Her work in business concepts
and lead uh leadership, financial literacy, and personal law along with her leaders leadership of our FBLA club gives students meaningful skills that prepare them for high school. So congratulations. She's an amazing teacher and got to do it from here. >> And I've said it many times, what makes
our town special is our volunteers. Our volunteers put the time and energy into what we do in this town and they're doing it for free. And we have great volunteers and I have waiting lists on a lot of the groups. That's a nice thing to see and I hope that stays that way for a very long time. Okay. Councilman Hinton.
>> Yes. Thank you, Mayor. Um, I also attended the finance committee meeting uh with you and Councilman Bennett and um yes, I agree with the both of you. We need to um replace vehicles on a consistent basis, but um but we can't
just be buying everybody that their Christmas list for what they want. So, um I think that we came to some good agreements on on the way we should proceed and uh it's the way it's going to go. I mean, uh
taxpayers need the vehicles to protect the town and and to do the services and um we're trying to do the best we can with the money that we have coming in. Um also, I want to um attended Sharee Commission meeting. Um couple little
items that I'll bring up with our uh administrator. Um let's see the um um well I'll bring these up with Michael at at another time. There's nothing really outstanding need to report to the
to the town. Um, when I went for my little walk the other day and uh saw the snow the way it was, um, I noticed and I called our OEM evangelista that a lot of the fire
hydrants were we asked the residents to dig out the fire hydrants. I came across the fire hydrant on 242 Midland Avenue and alls I saw was the top bolt that was completely buried. And then I made mention that there was no red flag, you
know, to mark the fire hydrants. And according to uh our OEM, he said a deal was made at one point in time with past MUA director John Wgley and half the town was done with those signs. So I
just want to inform Councilman Santers if he can talk to the MUA. Again, I was not aware of this when I was the liaison, but um a lot of the other fire hydrants need to be addressed um with those red
signs that they have coming out of them just to identify them when they're buried with snow like that. So, um so I think what we can help with that because I agree with they should be clean, no question. and presidents don't do them. Maybe we can reach out to the Boy Scouts and you know it has to be done quickly
after because then it freezes like now it's going to be all pretty hard to do. But they would probably jump on that for a project service hour project to get get some of that done. So the problem would be we'd have to identify and I'm going to ask the police maybe if they're driving by and they see one that's covered to just note it down and then
we'll get that list to somebody because that we'd have to get a list. That would be the most important thing. And DBW I'll ask them to do the same thing. Um uh and that way we can keep an idea of of which ones need to be done because they should be because God forbid it's one of those that we need. That's >> if there's a fire at a time.
>> Yes. >> And the aspect of it is you said we had all this cold weather. It's freezing. But I did some shoveling in my own yard. You break through that top crust. It's powdery and very dry. So So even though it's snow banks, it's not that hard to
shovel them out. >> So if you want me to, Liz, I can reach out or you can >> I'll reach out. Perhaps we can put something up on Facebook and ask the residents. >> Yeah, we can remind them to. That's a good idea. Let's do that. >> I didn't know if that that's why I touched base with OBM. I didn't know if the fire department itself would go
around and do that. Um >> I don't remember them doing that, but I'm not going to say yes or no. >> I was on the corner of Cluke Street and Acriman Place and the snow was piled so high it was just underneath the firebox. So, I mean, DPW has to be aware of this
also. Um, that it would be difficult if there was a fire to pull them. Most people use their cell phone to call, but I mean the fire boxes are still working and uh if somebody didn't have their cell phone and saw a fire, it'd be very difficult to pull that alarm. Um, also I
noticed that the Columbia bank signed up going over also. It >> did. Yes. in that last >> and credit to Columbia Savings within 3 4 hours they had people there fixing that sign. So I mean they didn't even wait less than it was 6 hours they were up there taking it down. >> Well credit to the gas station too
because I thought for sure it would be the following week before they got that out of there and it was gone. >> So I got a call from the chief of of the fire department telling me what happened and then he said under precautionary state because it fell on a gas tank. We're calling in the hazmat team. We don't believe there's any gas leaking
but just to be safe. So, the hazmat team was notified and called in uh just to be aware that we had a gas pump that had a thing full on it. Turned out to be okay, but yes, they did remove that quickly. Also, >> did the hazmat team removed that canopy or >> No, no, they had to hire a company. Okay.
>> No, they did a nice job on that. It was they took care of it pretty fast. Um Yeah. So, I mean, I don't know whose job it really was to dig out fire hydrants. I know the residents, my neighbor digs his out all the time. I help him. Um but um >> it's it there's no real job and we we'll
look into that but it's the residents are trying should be trying to help us that clean them out if they have one on in front they should >> and that is my report. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh attorney's report. Any report? I really have uh no uh nothing to report, mayor, uh other than
the fact that uh I have been working with our affordable housing planner as well as our uh redevelopment uh agency's attorney and the business administrator to finalize the affordable housing plan. Uh and uh you have a very industrious uh
administrator. We're on the phone often uh exploring uh ways to save expenses and generate revenue for the burrow. It's uh refreshing and creative >> and it's a lot of work this this getting this final from all parties involved. It's way over my pay grade because
there's a lot of emails going back and forth about uh about that. Um so thank you uh administration report. >> Thank you mayor. >> Before I had a question for the attorney. I I had brought up an issue a while back last year about the Skyler Avenue crossing. We're paying a
maintenance fee for Skyler Avenue and there's really nothing there to maintain. Um I don't know if you're aware of so the the railroad a deal was worked out with the railroad in 1960 I think it was that we pay a maintenance fee to them and our previous attorney
did look into it didn't find much leeway but maybe you can take another look at it. >> Uh if someone can get me the agreement >> I'll make sure I resend it to you. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you mayor. >> Okay. Okay. Uh this report. >> Thank you mayor. Uh, I first want to
thank the DPW uh for their great efforts to clear the snow along if you have uh and I also look forward to working with the bid on potential funding assistance in the future for clearing of the snow. Um, the Hersfield Park phase one improvements project which which
consists of the renovations to the Hersfield Park storage building continues to progress and is on schedule. Uh, I'm working with the recreation director, Karen Murphy, to select the interior paint colors. The exterior siding has been prepainted and
installed. Uh, we've installed extra lighting on the exterior of the building, and we are looking at a future change order for a speaker system. Uh, on tonight's agenda, we did have a change order to install an epoxy floor
on the flooring of the building. Uh it's like a shiny floor coating that you would see in a garage. Uh we did that for both flooding purposes and you know for the ease of cleaning with all the kids that come in and out of the building. Um so all in all uh the
project is under budget and on schedule. So we will update everyone on that. Uh the finance committee does continue to meet and discuss our 2026 municipal budget. Uh we have uh reached out to schedule a budget hearing to go over the
departmental requests. Uh we are looking at a budget presentation for the March 11th council meeting uh with hopeful introduction thereafter at the March 25th meeting. Uh and we also continue to monitor uh the departmental capital
requests and we are going to be scheduling a follow-up capital meeting uh in the next few weeks to just recap where we are. So, look for an email from me on that. And uh just wanted to note that the ordinance committee is meeting uh on February 23rd at 5:30 to discuss
the chicken ordinance, amendments to our wildlife ordinance, our foul ordinance, uh fence ordinances, and many others. Uh so we look forward to working with the committee. >> And just note down that we should put the coyote on that, too. >> Thank you. Our animal control officer
will be pres. Um, and I just wanted to conclude and thank the police chief uh for addressing the ongoing issues with Verizon. Uh, after the last council meeting, we did reach out to Verizon about the solicitation issues. I think
the chief reached a supervisor and the supervisor is going to reach out to the third party company to uh get a handle on the situation. So, I would just say to the public, if you have any issues, report it to the police department. I know the police put out a social media
post about the matter. Um, and we are going to continue to monitor the situation. Thank you. >> And I and you're right. Thank Thank the chief for looked jumping right on top of that because we what we did find out after the chief did some researches, everything they were doing was illegal with the Verizon on how they were doing
it. You know, they were saying they had permits. They did not. They were coming past the hours that they were supposed to. So, the chief did finally, it's hard to get hold of someone who's in charge, but the chief was able to do that and get in charge and hopefully they're writing the ship and they, you know, obviously they're selling a product that
they want us to buy, so they should be following the rules because it just doesn't look good for them if they're not. Uh, so thank you for doing that. Uh, our chief's report. >> Yes. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Any questions for the administrator? >> No. Okay, that's your >> So, not much. Um, but I just wanted to
highlight, you know, we had a obviously this big winter storm, a lot of coordination with a lot of different departments. So, I I you know, I just want to highlight that uh the open communication between um between all departments makes things a lot easier
and uh we all work well together. So, it was really good and I think everybody did a good job working together, working through the storm and then afterwards. Um to touch upon um the solicitors um yes they were actually saying that they had preapproval from me for permits um
which wasn't true. I uh I reached one of the supervisors that manages the whole program. Um and uh he reached out to them immediately and since our conversation seems like we haven't had any problems, he he assured me that he was going to pull them until the issues
were addressed or they got the proper permits and that uh if he were to put people back into Pompton Lakes, it would be limited of two people. Um but I haven't heard um I don't think he put anybody back in from what I know. And then just to um just to let everybody
know, the residents know um the burough ordinances for solit for solicitors require that each each person uh obtain a permit before operating in our town. Um uh that process is they go to Burough
Hall, defend the permits, they got to do a background, and once that's approval and they get that, then they can go out and they have to carry those that documentation with them. So if ever someone knocks on your door and they're soliciting, you know, you as the resident can ask them, hey, do you have your permit? If they don't or they give
you a song in a dance, please contact the police department and uh we will respond over there and uh en enforce the ordinances that we have in place. Um >> can I just ask one quick question on that? Sure. Are they still allowed to go out house to house at 9:00 at night by
9:00 at night? So, from what I I I I'm off the top of my head, I don't know if there's times in the ordinance. There are, right, Liz? It is till 9:00. >> It's till 9:00. Yeah, that's something I think we can change. Correct. >> Sure. >> Yeah, we can. Let's talk about that. The
ordinance, >> especially especially when they come, you know, in the dead of winter and it's you can't be doing that. >> I think that's why initially it was put in because it was the summertime. >> But on the other worst side of that, the winter time 9:00 some people it's a late night. I think we can adjust the language >> and maybe we would do it by season. We
can do that. >> Sure. >> I think that would be better for the residents. >> Um they're encouraged to contact us if if uh if they run into any problems with any solicitors, things that police department. Um,
I don't know if anybody else has any questions with the report, but >> well, I'm just going to add to so with the storm, you know, I think we went over it last time, but with the storm, there was great communication between all departments about how things were working. You know, I everybody was kept in the loop and we had a a text chain going all the time, but at the end of
the day, when the the departments are working with each other, that's what really makes things improved. like if if I have if the police need their their lot plowed because the cars have to get in and out and the DPW is aware of that, they can work together to make it work. So that's where it really becomes important. OEM was right on top of
checking out what where where our streets were and how things were looking. You know, I took rides with a couple different people and and you know, you you can see the progress that we're making. That was a tough storm. That wasn't you know, your normal everyday storm. So we did a very good job on that. But I also have to give credit to the residents. You did remove
your cars for the most part from the street. There were a couple that didn't do it. Um maybe they didn't know or understand, but for the most part, most residents did remove your cars from the street. So, we thank you for that. And and it just makes your street and your neighborhood better by doing that because they can go curb to curb to plow. If they don't do that and there's
a car on the way, there's going to be a big turnaround spot and then the police have to get involved and knock on the door and the whole thing. So, that's I want to thank them. Any questions for the chief? >> I do. Just quickly, so um regarding the call breakdown by the time of day. >> Yes. Again, very informative report. So,
I have to give kudos to the chief. I mean, this is just amazing information. But it's interesting to see how the call breakdown by the time of day. Your highest numbers are at 10:00 a.m. following 7:00 a.m. and then 12:00 p.m.
>> Yes. >> I mean, are we have that many retirees? Do we have that many people? I mean, just to see the 10:00 a.m. is a high volume of calls to the police department just strike me as odd. >> Yeah. So, we we get a number we get a
number of, you know, medical calls. We're responding to all those medical calls. um we get any any type of call for service, we're we're we're going um so with the influx of people going to work, uh our
kids in the schools, um your your your calls are going to increase during those during those daytime hours. Um at night, we're still getting a decent amount of calls, but obviously it it it >> that's what I noticed. It starts to go down a little bit when it gets to night. >> Correct.
>> Okay. Thank you. Any other questions? >> Yeah, for the most part, mayor, I do agree with you that the departments all work together, but uh we ran across a couple of incidents. I want to thank the chief for going by the post office because the sidewalk on Kofax a was
never settled. Um the chief had said to me that that's not really his job to go out. Um it he felt it was more property maintenance job. Um the building inspector who's in charge of p property
maintenance didn't feel that it was their job to patrol sidewalks that were unsholed. So we just have to get everybody together and get on the right page. Yes, you are absolutely correct that this storm was a bad storm that we
haven't had in so many years. Um I want to thank the DPW like Councilwoman Kent said. They did a nice job in town cleaning up. Um it turned out that the sake county dropped the ball on this um
through uh OEMA and the rest of us got together and told DPW to plow the county roads and thankfully they did that and they did an excellent job. But there was a couple of little fallroughs there. Um between um I
on my walk I see handicapped access um which the residents are supposed to take care of big mounds of snow that the DPW left in those handicapped access. We pay a lot of money to put install those handicapped access and handicapped
access the point I want to make is 12 months a year. It's not 9 months a year spring summer or fall. this time of year in the cold weather and the snow I don't expect a lot of handicapped people out there in their wheelchairs using those accesses but if they want to they should
be open and then the post office didn't have any access at all for handicap that sidewalk was never addressed in the back so if another storm comes like this people are we're on notice now they'll work a little better together um county
roads that the DPW did take care of you had even mentioned on Lakeside A near Jefferson going over the bridge to go to say shop right the snow is 10t out into the road it's still 10t out into the road now I don't want to be pointing
fingers at anybody but if that situation exists just take CARE OF IT IF DPW has to go over there and do another part of the county's job I really don't care take care of it because the resident shouldn't be swinging out into the the
middle of the road to make that right-hand turn. So, as good as everybody has done, we still have to work a little better together to uh alleviate some of these other problems. >> All right. So, I you know, we I've already spoken to you about it. Federal
property, we have no jurisdiction over it. They're responsible on their own. You know, you'd have to call the president himself to come down and fix that. >> If if I can get his number, I'll call. >> Uh but we can issue a ticket. They don't pay the ticket. That's just how it goes. Um but between the we've worked out
between the building and department and police department on who's responsible I'm assuming on the sidewalks. Um you know the I can't our DPW on a storm like that is working so hard to just even to tell them to do a little of the county work is so much extra work for them that it's very hard for them to
>> I agree with that. >> Uh so you know really it's the county's responsibility the county we had a call on it. We were all on the call. They that was one of the points of area I told them to address. They said they addressed it. I don't know. I didn't drive by. Maybe they didn't address it. But, uh, I would hope that the county
would do what they have to do. Uh, handicap. Again, this is an unusual storm. I spoke to Dan about it. He said, "Mayor, there's only certain places I can push snow at when we're moving the snow. It has to go sometimes on the sidewalks and in those areas. We'll try to come back and get it, but I'm trying
to get the traffic and street open for for traffic. And there's no place to push that much snow." I mean, even by me, and I mentioned to him, you're covering storm drains. We really shouldn't be covering storm drains with ice and snow. He goes, "Mayor, there's nothing I can do about it. I have to cover those storm drains." But if we can
get them open, we should. I agree that, you know, we we have to, but that's going to take some time. That's not going to happen initially right at the beginning of the snowstorm. They're just trying to open the roads for >> But it's been two weeks already. So, you add something. >> Yeah. Just have two more things. >> Okay. >> Uh, so just to just to be fair with the
postmaster, I I talked to him personally. He was very perceptive. he wants to get the sidewalk open. It's just that he's got people that he followed up with. Uh and he explained to me um that he had to open a ticket. The ticket was inadvertently closed
unbeknownst to him. He had to then uh put it up to a couple of levels above him and they reopened the ticket, but he he's not even getting an answer from his supervisors on when those people are coming out. And the people that work at the post office, they don't take care of
the snow. Um, so that's where we're at with that, but he's hopeful that that that will get done. Um, as for just some updates um on some of our stuff with the um with the civic center. Um, moving along very well. The the uh
trailer is now empty. Power has been cut as of today. So, I'm hopeful that trailer will be out of there within the next 2 weeks. Um, and then on to the the locker room and the the police portion. >> So, the guys will be in in the building
at that point. >> Uh, well, no, we need to wait for the CO and all that stuff to happen. >> So, where are you putting the guys then? >> Uh, so we uh moved Lieutenant Kaki over into uh the second cubicle in Lieutenant Rufo's office for time being. He just
moved over today, so it's temporary. Um once we get that whole set up, he'll be going back into that uh rear office and then uh >> Good progress. >> Good good progress. Locks and all that stuff. We're we're >> If I may just add, we're working with the DPW as part of our capital plan last
year. Uh we allocated 25,000 for the outfitting of the civic center. Uh so we're going to be painting, we're going to be, you know, furnishing moldings if that's not done. Uh we have to secure some storage in the attic area and most importantly order furniture uh for the
facility. Um discussion has ensued on the use of that facility. Uh and we're going to come back to the council with some recommendations on that. Uh hopefully next month. So just wanted to >> when is it scheduled to open? >> I would say in the next month it's going to be usable.
>> Well, we won't have furniture. >> You know, we still have to order furniture. We still have to, you know, get everything in order. >> Are we keeping the big table? Well, I think we should myself, but >> we're going to talk about that. >> Like I said, the the use of the the use
of the facility. I talked to the mayor about it. Some recommendations and uh >> get the furniture orders specifically for the police department too >> and historic on the wall. >> Right. >> So, thank you. >> Also, um OEM had brought up about charging cell phones during a timeout.
We uh was that all installed in >> Yes, I believe that that's where it's Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. Another question. >> Um yeah, I just had another question for the chief. Um there's still abandoned vehicles covered in snow. We don't have a towing policy.
Um I mean it's been over two weeks now and these cars are still covered in snow and just sitting there. I know they were probably ticketed. Hopefully >> there were they were uh so there was a few that were brought to my attention. Uh we >> there's one on Skyler. I have one on Grant, one on Midland.
>> Yes, it was I forget whether it was the one on Skyler, the one on Grant, but my officers went over there to address uh I think it was two two different vehicles. Um they were both ticketed. Um I think the ordinance says that we can we can tow it if it becomes an issue. As I see
it now, since the snow is is gone, there is no issue at at this moment. Um one of the residents is um she's unavailable. That's all I can say on that. She's unavailable. Um and uh the the
homeowner, it's a whole domestic situation, but she's just unavailable. She can't move the car, but it was it was ticketed. Um I was made aware of a um a trailer that's on the south end. Um, uh, I let S know, it's been
addressed before, but just so everybody knows is, um, so our ordinance reads for trailers parked in the roadway that they can't be parked on the roadway if they're commercial trailers. If they are personal trailers, they're allowed to be parked in the roadway at all times. This is a personal trailer that's on the
south end. Um, and uh, you know, if it wasn't, we we would we would address it. Um, but it looks like it was parked in the snow and a ticket should have been issued to that, too. And and I got a call from the from S that we want to readress the trailer situation just to you know maybe put some limits on sizes
on even personal trailers that can be in the street because some of them can get big and large and and they're hard to get around. So we're going to in the ordinance committee I think that's another thing we're going to address. >> I second that. I know it's not a move but >> there was a boat on on um >> Lambert Street >> Lambert Street with another trailer
attached to the back of that but that's that's legal right now. >> We have to address that. and that that that uh from what I I spoke to the resident over there on Lambert. >> So that situation from what I understand has has resolved itself. The resident that owned those trailers has since moved and is no longer on the street.
>> Okay, good. >> Good. So we still got to address it. Okay. Any other questions from the chief? Okay. >> Motion to open the meeting for public comment. >> Motion. >> Councilman Benning. Second. >> Councilman Cruz. All in favor? I >> against. Anyone from public like to address?
>> Oh, I'm sorry. Did I skip workshop? I'm sorry. Workshop. I'm so sorry. Go ahead. >> Thank you, mayor. So, tonight we have some ordinance amendments regarding the awards program for the police department. Uh so, I'm going to let the chief go over uh some recommendations we
have for the council at this time. >> Yes. So, how it stands is uh the burrow has um in essence two awards committees. There's an awards committee I think where I'm a part of and there's a couple other members that are on the burrow and
that's for everyone else except for the police department. The police department has always had by ordinance uh their own awards committee um where uh the chief of police appoints a chair um and then uh it's um a member almost at each rank
and then a civilian employee within the police department. So that's what I'm here to talk to you about uh tonight. Um, so what I what I propose right now are
our our highest award is the medal for valor. Um, and in my proposal, I'm proposing a couple things. I feel like the police department, we need uh one, which would be a medal of honor.
All right. Uh, the Medal of Honor be awarded to a member who performs an act of extraordinary heroism involving extreme and obvious risk to the officer's life above and beyond the call of duty. Um, this would be comparable to like a Medal
of Honor in the military. It's something that would be you almost would never get unless it's it's extreme. Uh I don't even want to name the incidences cuz uh it's a little superstitious for that. But um then the next the next award
would be the combat cross. Um I think that's self-explanatory. And then um we would be keeping the uh medal I think in our ordinance it reads medal of valor but we really need to change that to medal for valor. Um, and that's awarded to a member who exhibits
extraordinary courage, bravery, and/or devotion to duty by uh consciously exposing themselves to imminent danger despite great risk to their own life in an effort to protect or save the life of other individuals. So, just to put that in context, we had a lot of men and
women that went into that fire uh to save uh the resident in there um that were that were put up for this award. And when we have our awards ceremony, some of those officers will be, you know, have been chosen to receive that award. >> Um,
>> let's just jump in for so for the new council just to explain what you're talking about. So, we do have an awards group made up of of I think mayor and the chief and some outside citizens sit on it and and they're a group that would give out awards for everyday kind of thing, but the police for some reason
are not part of that awards group. Is that's correct? Right. >> Yeah. So, yeah. So, I'm as a chief, I sit on that, right, >> with everybody else, but they they don't give the awards to the police, >> but they do they do give them to the fire and the ambulance squad, I think, right? >> I I think so. I've never been I've never
sat on it. >> Yeah, I think they do. We haven't done it in a long time, but my question for the attorney is we have to do this by resolution. Is is that the only reason? >> It's an ordinance amendment. >> It's just an ordinance. >> Correct. Okay. Okay. Go ahead. >> Um we we will continue to have the life-saving award. Um
uh we will have uh continue to have the purple heart. Uh chief's award will continue. Um officer of the year award will continue. There's just some wording that I would like to get changed for the officer of the year award and for the civilian employee of the year award.
Right now, those two awards um in in the or in the current ordinance, it states that they in order to be eligible for this award, they've had to have gotten um one of five other awards during the year, which kind of makes it a little
difficult, especially for for a 25 person department. And um it kind of narrows down um the scope of that award to maybe only a few a few people. Um, we'll continue to have the
meritorious service. Um, we we currently as a police department have a distinguished performance award and a unit citation. So, instead of that just being under the police department and under my discretion, I I felt that it
need to be a part of the ordinance. Um and then we would continue to have uh the civic award, community service award, education uh achievement award, um citizen service award, and then the
only other uh I think addition to my proposal was the addition of some language in regard to the awards committee and then the authority of the chief of police in regard to um final
approvals for these awards after it comes out of committee. >> I I don't think anybody up here is going to have an issue on how you want to give out awards and what they are for. I don't think anybody really has a say or care and not cares but wants to tell you how to do run your department that way. So if you just what you put together is
probably good enough to just give to our administrator and then we'll we'll adopt it unless somebody has a concern or question about that itself. But it's your department how you want to run it and how you want to hand out the awards. I I would respectfully go with his decisions. I mean, I don't think we should be making decisions on that. >> Yeah. Ju just to just to just to
highlight some of this. Um so, like for instance, the medal, I don't think we've done it in a number of years. Um but my goal, what we're going to be doing for this next one, not even a goal, what we're going to be doing is following the ordinance. And some of these require a
ribbon, a metal, and a plaque. Um and it's deserving. Um, so with these being established and how they are, my goal is to once we have these once we have the awards, it'll probably be I'm hoping in March cuz a lot of stuff have to be ordered that'll be required to this, but
mounted in a nice plaque will will be their certificate. It'll say medal of valor. It's really nice lettering. I can I can send you an example in an email. The burrow seal in gold will be at the bottom. And this all be mounted in a plaque. next to it will be the medal the
medal of valor will be will be in there um and that'll be presented to them on on the night that they uh that they receive the award and the public will get to hear you know what they what they do and then uh for as for officer of the year which is an existing one I don't know if you saw the the plaque that I
put out in the hallway um once that's given out the officer's picture will be taken professionally and his class A's and then that'll be memorialized in our lobby uh the year that the officer received received received that award for the officer a year and that that award is is a big thing because not it's
a committee so it's almost like an award from their peers too on what that officer did um and uh it's uh it's a it's a big thing you know for an officer to be highlighted for the officer of the year. >> All right. Any questions about that? >> No question.
>> Yeah. I I just I'm I'm glad that you brought this up. I I think it's a wonderful way to do this and it is through the ordinance and I spoke to uh Michael Ordinance uh 2-42.55. It's strictly for the police department. Correct.
>> Yes. >> So our other groups don't have anything. >> They do. They because I'm dealing with them now because >> but not an ordinance. >> Not not in an ordinance, but they do. They have their own installation dinners usually, a lot of them. Okay. Where they give out the awards. The police doesn't really have an installation dinner. We
just did. Bobby and I just went to the ambulance one where they gave out all their awards. The fire department will be having something in the near future where they'll be giving out all their awards. We are going to do it. We're still deciding how we're going to do from the houseire. There's some awards that want to be given out and and there's so many from the police department that they're going to do
their own awards. Okay. And then the fire department will figure out how they're going to do that. >> So, so my my question is I mean there's extensive amount of ways of getting an award in if they're, you know, in valor and so on. You know, there's nine or 10 of them here. But don't you think we should have one for the police and one
for the ambulance for the >> They haven't asked. They're happy the way they got theirs right now. So they they come up with their awards at their dinners and give out plaques and and awards, you know, at each dinner, you know, because I'm I'm part of them. That's how they want to do it. Now, I've always told them if they want to do it in public, we can do it also in public,
but they choose not to sometimes. >> I was going to say I've never heard of it. I know we've been >> No, we've done it before. We've done it for the the fire the house explosion. We did it. >> So So I think by having the ordinance at least for the police department, I'm only speaking for the police department. So like those two other awards that I
mentioned, the unit citation and other ones, by having those internal awards, at least for me, and not being in ordinance, I can kind of give it out at a whim on however I want to do it. And um for for me, I I don't want that to be
like that. I want it to be I want it to be the same way all the time from now until forever. So that it doesn't take so it doesn't take away from from the award or how it's or how it's awarded. >> You don't want it to be arbitrary. You
know, and I and I agree. But >> the committee puts a great deal of >> But how do you have you include a fireman? Let's say we shouldn't. >> They shouldn't, but we should. >> No. Well, the fire department will handle their own. So they'll take care of their own awards and they're going to
do an award ceremony separate from the police department's fire award ceremony for the last house fire. So there's going to be two award ceremonies. >> Yeah. So there's a there's a there's a few there's um for instance I don't have the whole award in front of me, but I'm almost 100% positive that the
distinguished service award is a new award. Um, and eligible recipients would be members from our department and then I could also nominate another member from another police department if somebody did did something, but it would go to an
awards committee. And how ours works is is they have to be that would be nominated for these awards and then it's brought to the awards committee. So you have um you'll have a captain, you have a lieutenant, a sergeant, a patrolman, and then you have a civilian member of
our department. they meet, they go through all the reports and then they put a recommendation of what they believe that uh they should get. So if I were to, let's say, award somebody the Medal of Honor, they go through it, they could turn around and then they say to
me like, "Hey, we we think it's a little lower, maybe a Medal of Valor instead." And then they give me the recommendation. >> Okay. And that but that would be for police. That's for >> example squad did their installation dinner just last week and they gave out numerous awards for life saving for CPR
for many different things and that's how they want to do it that way. They don't want to do it here in in they like it at the dinner with everybody there and that's how they want to do it. >> Okay. I thought it was I thought it was going to be done under the committee appointments that we made which was with uh the officer you're actually named uh
Anthony Rodriguez officer in charge Dennis Daka he's the fire chief and Walt Gossson he's the first aid and then we have one citizen >> right >> and that's it >> that but that's for award ceremony that we're giving the town >> right we have no ordinance we just >> we just give them if we're going to give
it but they they independently do their own >> okay well I didn't I don't Yeah, we don't do one really. Okay. >> Cuz it's double. It would be the same thing twice, >> you know. We're doing a house fire. >> I just don't want to leave anybody out that earned it. >> No, they don't want to do that. >> I think that's why they're spending the time and doing it.
>> And on fire. >> Yeah. They're they're making sure that like they have a lot of people in the fire department and they have a lot of people in the police department >> to have them overlap together. It's too much. It's just too many members, too many talking, too much time, and that's why they want to kind of keep it separate. >> Okay, that was my point.
>> Okay, any other questions? Um, if we're handing out awards, could we hand out awards to DPW picking up garbage in 12°ree 20 below windchill factor risking their lives to pick up our >> That would be up to the DPW. I've I've
attended their dinners. They have they >> We're handing out awards, mayor. >> No, we're not handing out any. >> We're not doing >> these are all coming from the department, >> the department. If that's if that's something they would like, they would contact us and we would work with them. But it would be all from their department. >> They would do it. They deserve an award.
>> Sure. I agree. They had just had a pig. >> Yes. >> They talked to some people. Okay. Any other questions? >> No. Okay. Motion to open the meeting for public comments. >> Motion. >> Councilman Denn. >> Council President Kent. All in favor? >> Anyone from the public like to address?
Please step up. >> Um I have a copy of a letter that I received that >> you can give it to the clerk. Yeah. Give it to the clerk. Thank you. >> Uh my name is Peter Shazat at 314
Woodlon Avenue. Um I received a letter from the state uh recently the disaster uh recovery and mitigation department DRM. Um in early January of 2024, I was offered uh a house elevation um offer uh
from FEMA. And I actually I think we came to a meeting in the chamber of councils back then. Um >> but this is a while ago. I'm talking about >> January of 2024. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. Um anyway, so been going through this
process. Been a lot of uh plans put on hold, a lot of projects that were were not started. Uh, and uh, I recently just got this letter from the state saying, "We regret to inform you that DRM is no longer able to fund the elevation of
your property under the map program due to the construction costs exceeding FEMA cost allowances. Under the current federal administration, FEMA has updated its cost allowances for elevation projects. FINA's policies and cost allowances have
evolved since DRM applied for this funding before 2025. So, um, it goes on, but basically this is saying that not that there's a guarantee, but they probably wouldn't have offered me this project if their
original estimates would not have included my house as being probably within the range. So due to as we all know many federal budgets have been cut recently and FEMA has diff has not been spared that at all. Um and so I wanted
you to be aware of the downstream effects of what this means for actual people in towns. I'm positive that I am not the only one that got a letter like this recently. I don't know how many other projects were destined for this town or not, but um I bet you there's a
lot of very uh disappointed people who've now spent two years trying to configure their lives around the possibility of this happening. Um so I'm offering you an opportunity to maybe use any contacts or connections when you
speak with uh politicians higher up the rank to maybe advocate for this program. Uh, I believe in it because, you know, I've been through a few floods myself. Um, I would like to have the root causes of severe displacement be removed and,
um, this would have gone a long way towards achieving that. Um, and that's really all I wanted to say. >> Okay. Thank you, Al. >> Thank you. >> Anyone else from the public life address? Seeing no one, can I have a motion to close the public session? >> Motion.
>> Councilman Hickman, Councilman B. All in favor. >> Uh Peter, Pete, I agree with you. I mean, I hate to see programs go away that help our residents. Um we do have another program, Mike. How did the one from Wayne was his name on that? Do you know? >> No, those were for uh buyouts only.
>> Buyyous only. So, this was for Elevation that he's talking about. I will definitely speak to my counterparts in above to say, "Hey, we'd like to bring this program back because it's important for our town." uh you know, especially the elevation part of it. That's what I'd like to see in our town because it keeps our residents here and keeps the
tax dollars here. Buying out homes is not a good thing for my town because it's too small. A town like a Wayne, they can give up 30, 40 houses and not feel that pinch. A town like Pompton Lakes, we give up 30 houses, we're in trouble. So, I would love to keep our residents here. I'd love to see them bring this program back. Mike, do you
have any information about about any of that? >> I'll look into it. >> We'll look into it and we'll try to get back to you. any information though that you have if you don't mind sending an email over of what you had started to our clerk and then she could forward it to me so I have something to talk a talking reference to when I talk to the politicians so I can say let's try to
bring this back that would help me so if you have anything you could just send it over to her >> okay thank you >> oh sure >> no just to if you have a copy of that we'll I'll take it to the flood advisory group >> um we would like >> yeah I'll bring it up at the flood
advisory uh uh board meeting next Thursday. >> All right. Thank you. >> Okay. >> Okay. We're calling the floor. Anybody have privilege of the floor? >> Yeah. Just one thing real quick. I just wanted to congratulate uh Chief Rodriguez on completing that Rucker
program. >> Thank you. >> I think that was great. So, >> very much appreciate that. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I just I just want to um ask just to let let you know there are about six fireboxes on poles on Summit Avenue,
Pmpton Avenue, Hill Hill >> Court. >> Hill Court Hill Court. And uh and they're all they're all wrapped up in black plastic. They don't work. Now, I talked to I talked to Chief Decake and he said they
were supposed to be fixed in January. They've been wrapped up for 6 months. They are inoperative. So my neighbors complain and I get I take the I take the complaints and they first of all they're not operative you
know they should either be removed or fixed and they're wrapped up in plastic and now because of the weather all the plastic's all chewed up and it looks hor it does look horrible. So >> can you can somebody get back to us? >> I'll have Mike look can we look inside? >> Yeah. There's six boxes on on three streets.
>> Yeah. They said they're all out of order. They they will not work. >> Our OEM coordinator, Alivangelista, is well aware of the situation. I know that he was uh you know posting updates on social media regarding the matter. He works very closely with our new fire
alarm superintendent who monitors the boxes. Um so if has any comments uh otherwise I'll reach out, you know, and we'll work it out. >> They'd like I'll I'd like to have them fixed, but if not, they should be taken down. Go ahead. Go ahead. >> Mayor and council,
this has been ongoing. The system sustained damage uh as a result of an accident and a couple other things, wind events that put us behind. That system's always been up and running, but it's to the point now where we have to do wire replacement on one of the loops. There's
three loops that go throughout our town. Two of them are up working, one's down. Um, as Michael knows, we have procured the wire we need, but the weather is not working in our favor. To put us behind by a couple months, um, we're looking to
get a task force of three or four people that do fire alarms that have offered to help our town at no cost. They're going to come in on a particular day. They're going to run all the wire together into loop hopefully within a day. So, what we had to do for the safety of everybody is cover the boxes so they didn't pull one
and it wasn't working. Some are covered, some are not. And that's the issue we're we're dealing with right now. All right. Our goal is to get the system up and running. We have about seven buildings tied into that system which are, you know, properly uh covered if they're not
in progress. If they're they're working, the boxes are not uncovered, of course. But, uh, as soon as we get the wiring back up, system will be back to normal. And then we're going to proceed in the spring and summer with the repainting of the box which is sort of needed as well.
So it is a work in progress. We're very happy that we're able to get a bucket truck from a neighboring town that we can use to do our aerial work, but it's generally a weather put on. >> Thank you. Is that answer your question?
>> Yeah. No, fine. So I I can tell my the neighbors spring >> hopefully. Hopefully shooting. Okay. Shooting for spring. So, we send it. >> Okay. And I and I just wanted to thank uh whoever puts the Pmpton Lakes, New Jersey newsletter together. >> Wiz does a great job of it.
>> Well, don't you do it? Who does it? >> Oh, Mike. >> Mike. >> Gabby does. >> Gabby. >> I always tell you, >> this is this is excellent. You can sign up for the the town newsletter and it has all kind of information about the first aid squad and and all different upcoming events. Drives me crazy when I
hear there's nothing to do in town. Well, yes, there is. And it's all here. and they're very nicely posted and the mayor you have a you know nice uh place to put your comments on and I just wanted to thank you and everyone can should be signed up for this and so you
know what's going on in town so I just wanted to mention that >> and I I'll just double piggyback on that there are groups in town for the residents to sign up to that is one of them the police department is another one uh the bid downtown you know somebody said I don't I never see any information how I buy these bid dollars well if you're not on social media which
I understand a lot of people aren't sign up for the bid, you'll get emails from them. You'll get contact information from them. So, just go to our web page. All that stuff is listed there and you can sign up to numerous things. Reverse 911, everybody should be signed up for that. Um, if you're not, that's that's a mistake because you you're going to be
the first resident calling. How come I didn't get a call to get out of my house during an emergency or something? So, it's very important to sign up for those things. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Any other uh motion floor? >> Nope. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Um, just want to bring it up with Michael. I talked to him before. any
movement on channel 77. A couple of times that I watched it, um we the police department had a nice program on the electric bikes. It was all half blacked out. You couldn't see anybody who was talking, >> but that was their filming thing, right? It was >> No,
>> yours is bad. Yours is >> You can't see his at all. >> That's because it was a separate They were filming it on site. It was >> Yeah, that was a font site. That's what they're talking about. >> No, it's dark. It's very dark. You can't see it. And our and our meetings are not looking great either right now.
>> No, I I watched >> the set. >> I watched a council meeting the other day and I was listening intently to the mayor and his voice was breaking up and I was so >> As long as it's blurring out my face, we're good. >> I mean, >> no, you weren't blacked out this time. >> It just sounds like we have ongoing
ongoing. I mean, it's just I think since I started on council, we have had ongoing issues with channel 77. I mean, my initial reaction, unfortunately, is it requires a capital investment. I mean, it's reaching its end >> of useful life and we're going to have
to make a a you know, >> I think the last estimate we got was like 50 to 75,000. >> I mean, years ago, >> keeping the lights on, I mean, from this the the I guess the company we're contracted with to do the upload, maintain, and all that. I mean, what is
their feedback to this? Cuz look, you can have an old system as long as you keep it running, replace the parts. They're having problems the way we last time we spoke they're having problems getting the pieces to replace things that break in there. >> Granted. Okay. So maybe we need to revisit. >> Yeah, we can. Maybe we need to revisit.
>> We can put a little ad hoc committee together. >> It's going on 6 years. >> It's been a long >> I mean well longer but I mean since we have the parts. So how long does it take to find the parts? I know it doesn't take 6 years and I know there's a supply chain issue. Everybody's going through it but I mean it's it's getting ridiculous at this point. So Mike, maybe you can get some information from our
vendors about that and what they know about it, how we can make it better, maybe a quick cost. I'm not going to hold them to it, just so we have numbers to think about. >> And to be honest with you, refurbished may work as well. We're not, you know, if it's working, we get another 20 years out of it, we could talk about getting a
newer system down the road. But even a refurbished system that we can just replace what we have because right now, >> yeah, it's not good now. I I just have to come across it. It's very dark, hard to see. My other comment would be when I worked for the burrow of Oakland, we had a we reached out to Verizon Altis USA to
request highdefin channel which is something that we can do but we don't have the camera infrastructure to do that. So the in order to do that and you know mind you although it may be blurry it may be hard to hear it's a it's a low definition channel so we would have to
upgrade to a high definition channel but we would need all new cameras to do that and you could be looking at 30 to 45,000 But we do have a new agreement coming up with both cable companies. So maybe that's something we talking about. >> But uh we'll definitely mobilize and start thinking about it.
>> I just think the channel 77 is an asset to the comm. And uh I switched from cable to fiber. I used to be able to tape the meetings, but for some reason with fiber I can't record on my DVR. I
don't know why. I've called them in. They couldn't figure it out. You're a you're a real fan that you want to tape it. >> I'm a I I always used to tape it just to see you speak mayor. I was I was taping. >> That's something. >> At least you get Pont Lakes on 77. I get W Parker until you comes in. I called.
They said they can't join. >> Also, I want to say um for privilege of the four. I want to congratulate ex- councsil president Jennifer Poladari on her appointment to the Pake County Open Space Committee. Um,
congratulations. >> Yes, she's uh she was an asset to the the town. Her heart is in the town and I think that she can help >> um >> to funnel dollars to pump the lakes and I think that she can do a great job.
>> Okay. So, I just want to commend her. And on June 6, >> there's going to be a race for the PBA local 161. >> I don't know anything about it. You know anything about it? Is that is that the motion I made? >> That was the motion.
>> Oh, that was the motion I made. >> Yeah. >> Is the chief running in that? Is he running or >> he's there? I'm hoping that he comes in first. >> If you race me, uh, we can >> we can do that. >> Welcome. Anything else?
>> No, that's okay. Motion to close. >> Second. >> Councilman Bennon, Councilman Cruz. All in favor? >> Against. Thank you everybody for attending. We have a close session. We have Okay. In close session, we discuss negotiation and personnel. Motion to adjurnn. >> Motion.
>> Councilman Bennon. Councilman V. All in favor? >> Against. >> Okay, guys. Thanks. >> Thank you. >> All right. Thanks, everybody. I'm going to want