The following is the agenda for the regular burough council meeting of the burough of Compton Lace Mayor and Council Municipal Corporation in the county of the state. The meeting will begin at 7:30 p.m. on November 12th, 2025 in the municipal building 25 L Avenue, Common Lakes, New Jersey,
consistent with the open public meetings act. The meeting will be open for public comment and shall be in accordance with the terms and conditions of the burough's municipal code and bylaw. >> Please stand for a flag to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it
stands. One nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. Please bless this council as they deliberate on the best of pontics. In conformance with the open public meeting law, public law 1975, chapter 231, adequate notice of this meeting,
setting forth the time, date, place, and purpose of this regular meeting through notice posted on the bulletin board in the misal building mailed to all have requested and paid for same and published in the suburban trends. Roll call, please. >> Sarah >> here. >> I'm going to say absent. I wasn't made aware unless somebody else was made
aware. I know. >> Okay. So, absent. >> Councilman Cruz >> excused. >> Councilman Hinton >> here. >> Councilwoman Ken >> here.
>> Councilman Quinn >> here. >> Councilman Bennett >> here. >> With us is our burough attorney Jen Perezy and our bur administrator Michael Carell. >> Okay, great. Thanks. Uh we have a a presentation today from the PA Pay County Division of Economic
Development which we did have a meeting to discuss the exciting program that they want to bring to here to town. So I'm going to ask John Carlo if you'd like to step up and give a little presentation explain who you are. Thank you uh council mayor um and uh thank you for having me. Um I am John
Carlo. I'm the director of economic development for the county of Pake. Um, I have been in this job since March uh of 2025. I came here from uh for a couple years working for the state of New Jersey, the economic development authority. And prior to that, I worked
at a place called New Jersey Community Capital uh where I worked in um you know, consulting for municipalities around the state. I also worked in affordable housing development. So, uh happy to be here. I am a state county native. I'm a Hawthorne boy, so I know I'm in Cardinal country, but go Bears.
Um I don't you know don't don't kick me out. Um >> that could be kicking out worth but >> I'm sorry. Sorry. Uh proud Hawthorne High School graduate and uh spent many many games at Hersfield Park and uh over at the high school. So happy to be here in a different capacity. Um I'm going to
try to go quickly through my presentation. I know you guys have a big agenda, but I just want to talk a little bit about what we currently do. Um it's governmental advocacy. We do grant and loan navigation for businesses. I help with location assistance. whether it's a business who wants to locate here in the county, someone who is maybe looking to
expand and open up a second or third or fourth location. Um, but also thinking about how we work with landlords to find tenants for their spaces. So, that's something that I I work on. I'm also uh working closely with our workforce development board and our community college and several of our other higher
ed institutions on that talent and workforce pipeline. You know, matching talent with jobs that we have here in the county. um and then matching talent with jobs that we want to bring here to the county. Um there's an opportunity I think to grow um our economy here in
Pate County and that's true kind of across the board but you know Pton Lakes you know you guys sit here at the crossroads of 287 um Hammer Turnpike you have Wiku Avenue um you guys have a a real great location to be you know kind of central here in the county um and
there's no reason why we can't have additional businesses complementing what you already have here in town. So, um, happy to do that. Um, and on the governmental advocacy side, I ju just to plug that. Um, you know, my from my perch at the county, I'm able to not only work with the municipalities and
help you guys, you know, help business owners or help someone, you know, troubleshoot something that they're maybe dealing with on the planning or zoning side, permitting, stuff like that. But I'm also um kind of fluent in all the stuff that happens at the state level. So if there's someone who has issues with the D or Department of Labor
or something like that, I'm I'm happy to be the in between to advocate on behalf of a business owner. So if you are working with anybody if on the council and the mayor, um if you guys are working with anybody that is having some trouble, I'm happy to be an advocate on that front. Um so again, newer newer in this job,
but um very interested in using more of a data-driven approach to making decisions on the economic development side. So that's kind of my background. That's what I do. Uh, I'd like to more target my outreach, kind of connect people. Uh, I do a lot of networking. I do a lot of, um, putting people in the same room who should get to know each
other just in terms of, you know, hey, this is my need. This is what I have. Maybe you guys should talk to each other, like do a lot of that. Um, and I think that that's that's the way that um, we're going to see more connections made and more opportunity for businesses
not only to, you know, kind of partner with each other, but also expand and grow. um because I think that's ultimately good for everybody here. Um I'm interested in marketing. I'm interested in like helping take the next step and you guys here in Pmpin Lakes have already done quite a bit of that which is great. Um you know my last
point here is Pumpin Lakes as a destination. You guys have a downtown business improvement district. You have the redevelopment agency who's doing a lot of work already. You know Pompton Lakes is a model for how we should be doing this, you know, not in our cities in P County but in our in our towns and
our burrows. um you guys are doing it right and I'd like to help you guys take that to the next level. So, you know, I had an opportunity to meet with Michael, with the mayor and with the economic development team here, the business improvement district director and um the redevelopment agency director a couple weeks ago and we had a great
conversation about how we could work together. Um and that's going to continue. We're going to keep doing that. So, um ways that the county we can partner with Compton Lakes, I'd like to work with you guys on grant applications. So, maybe there's opportunities for us to work together. I think, you know, actually last week we
worked with Michael a little bit on um an application to the uh North Jersey Transportation Planning Authority um to do some work uh in and around Wanq, which is great. I hope that'll be successful. I think the county is a strong supporter of that work. Um and we're going to keep doing that. But
where there are other opportunities for us to help not only the township but or the bureau, excuse me, but also work with uh individual business owners, like we'll do that as well. Um, so I'll talk about some more grants up in a second. But there's opportunities for university partnerships. We have we have four
colleges and universities here in the county. um and obviously ones that are further a field, but to the extent that we can partner with a faculty member who's interested in doing a project or a student group who wants to do a project, if I can help connect some dots with either the township or um you know this
the high school or a business, I I'd like to do that again to help you know bring lowcost or no cost support for a business owner or for the town uh in the in the form of students who are going to get college credit or going to get um experience in the real world by helping
can do some of these projects. Uh the last thing, these are some county-led initiatives. So, we have a restaurant week every year. We have not had a lot of participation by Compton Lakes businesses. I'd like to change that. Um you know, again, I just got here. We had a restaurant week in May. Um when May rolls around again next year, we'll do
that again. And I'll be doing I'll be knocking on doors and um doing some outreach come January. Um you know, starting to get people interested and involved. Um, and to the extent that maybe Pump Links has its own restaurant week in the future, um, you know, we'll be a supporter of that as well. Um, and then there are just other initiatives and other events that are going on at
the county level that we'll promote through you or with you. Um, and we're going to keep doing that as well. Um, so the grant applications and I have um, some flyers about these particular grants here with me. Um, so I'm happy to leave some for you if there's any business owners in the audience that
want to talk afterwards. I have my card. I have some papers here. I can I can stick around for a little bit after. Um there are several grants that the New Jersey Economic Development off economic development authority offers the NJA if you've heard that Parliament. There's a small business improvement grant. It's
up to 50% of work if you're doing on exterior improvements, new furniture, fixtures, and equipment. Um up to so up to $50,000. 50% of a project up to $50,000. So, if you do $100,000 worth of work to your restaurant, you get do a new facade, you buy a new oven, you buy
a new refrigeration system, you can spend $100,000, the state will give you $50,000 back for spending that money, which is great. And there's just not enough business not enough businesses that know that that program exists. So, I'm happy to be the evangelist on that. And I'm actually help I'm happy to help
fill out that application with the business, like in partnership with the business. So, if that's helpful that, you know, I set up some time, I'm happy to come to Pontton Lakes, work with an individual business on that application. Um, there's a checklist of kind of documents that they need to get, but if a business owner has done some of their own homework, I can come in and help you
tie it all up and and do that. There's an e-commerce support grant. That's again, it's that that is a free to a business. So, retail businesses, service businesses, restaurants, um, you can get up to, I think, $11,000 worth of consulting services for free. You want
to do a new website, you want to do online ordering, you want to do something e-commerce related, um, that's free to a business. And again, not enough people know that it exists. And for a long time, county businesses have not taken advantage of these programs. I'd like to change that. Uh, you know,
on our fair share, you know, there's 21 counties in the state. Cate County is not high on the list of who takes advantage of these programs. So, I would really like to change that. I'd like to put us toward the top. Um, the last one that might be of interest, um, and this is the small business lease grant. So,
if someone's interested in taking, uh, I think a minimum of 500 square f feet of commercial space for commercial space, um, or if you're an existing tenant and you want to take at least 250 more square feet, a net increase, you can get up to two and a half months of
your 5-year lease for free. So you get two um you get um you get uh in year one you get two and a half months free and the second year you get two and a half months free. So you sign a five-year lease but you get you know 5 months free rent um which is not
bad. The state will pay for it um which is great and again it encourages economic development. Um and you guys do have um because you've had some changes in downtown like there are some empty storefronts. This is an opportunity to help you know a landlord and a tenant together you know work together to fill
that space. Um, and again, an incentive to do that. So, these are these are some of the programs that are available, but these are ones that I I'm happy to work through with a business. There are a number of other grants that the EBA has that I'm happy to walk through a business if they have an interest.
Be mindful of time, so I'll be move through the next ones quicker. But, um, university partnerships, again, I've been working closely with William Patterson University. I have a group of students who are doing a project with the town of Wayne. Um which and Michael heard about and that's part of why you know one of the reasons why I was
invited to come and uh speak to you this evening. Um this has been a great opportunity. Wayne is interested in thinking about their own economic development path like you know Pump and Lakes has done some of that work already but um you know we have a group of students who are basically serving as a consulting company for the town of Wayne
you know helping do some research helping think about what's out there best practices and it's been a great opportunity. is we've had two or three groups of students who have worked on pulling down research looking at this and these are MBA students these are not you know undergraduates but we can work with graduate students we can work with undergraduates on a number of different
topics and again I've so far so far I've been working with William Patterson but um say county community college is interested in this type of program state is interested in this type of program and so is Berkeley College those are our higher ed institutions here in the county uh if there's a match you know with with a need that the township has
um I'm happy to help fill that I'm happy to help identify a faculty member or a class that uh a group of students who can help uh with those things. And then again for businesses maybe someone who's listening uh if you have an opportunity for an internship for uh college age students um there are all of those institutions I mentioned are looking for
placements and there are a lot of uh students from you know Pumpton Lakes Wanq Bloomingale who you know would love to have something closer to home. So if there are businesses locally who have an opportunity for a gainful internship and it doesn't have to be a paid internship, it could be a 4 credit internship, but
there's an opportunity for them and the business to benefit from that. So I'm happy to connect dots on that as well. Um I talked briefly about this. I I don't want to belabor the point, but one thing I will say about promoting events, the Pay County has a tourism website.
It's called cpacay county.org. Um, if there are businesses in Pmpton Lakes or the bid or um the township, honestly, for for what it's worth, who want to promote an event, that's an avenue that the county will blast out something that's going on. So, there's a a form
you uh we click at cpsaccount.org. Um, you can fill out the um kind of the intake form and then we put it up on our website and then we'll do promotion and that goes out to, you know, I don't know how many thousands of people that are on our kind of e-list. There's social media that goes out with this and all sorts of
stuff like that. But again, it's another avenue to get eyes on the events that are going on here in Pompton Lakes. So, to the extent that we can help with that, we'll do that. Um, so what I've done so far, and again, I' I've been in this role for about 7 months or so, but I've been meeting with
individual businesses. I've met with more than a few here in Pompton Lakes. Um, met with uh, you know, your local economic development team, which I'm going to continue I hope doing. and then looking to connect businesses with uh space. So again, there's some downtown kind of ground floor retail that that's
available like to find tenants for those for you guys like in partnership with you guys. So we're going to keep looking to do that. Um and then there's properties that obviously are on the private market that are listed and I'm promoting those listings as well. Um you know, as folks, brokers or folks from the state or people who are approaching
our office looking for space. I'm talking about Pompton Lakes. I'm talking about what you guys have available here, the town. Um and you know hoping to find matches where where possible um and in those individual meetings just want to highlight a couple things. So you know challenges with marketing uh
changing customer base right as we all know people are more online these days. People are working from home. You don't have as many people in the office. I don't know if that's affected Pumpin Lakes as much. You guys don't have an enormous office population in town. But, you know, that changes the way that people shop, the way that people
experience going to a nail salon, a dry cleaner, you know, the basic services that we all think of going out to dinner. So, you know, trying to think about with businesses, what are the challenges they have and how they can maybe remarket themselves or pick take a niche um and and go in maybe a different
direction. So, I'm doing some of that. Um, again, identifying tenants for spaces um and connecting businesses with support from our So, we have a small business development center that's located at William Patterson University. They also will do free or lowcost consulting services for businesses all
over the county. Um they'll travel to you. We have a number of events that are hosted at Williams Patterson University that um we've done for entrepreneurs, for small businesses, things around AI, things around um uh law and intellectual property. So kind of running the gamut of what a small business might be
interested in. Um but those supports are there as well. So we're going to keep doing that. Um just go to the uh that's no one more. So the last thing I want to just talk about and I I will wrap up is something I'd like to I'll be
working on with um kind of your local economic development team is bringing folks from the New Jersey Economic Development Authority here. Um I think a couple years ago mayor mentioned they came and did a little walking tour of Wanqav kind of met with some business owners like to bring them back. You know, every once in a while it's helpful
for folks from the state to see what you guys have going on here because as they're developing new programs, we have a new governor coming into office. It's helpful for them to start thinking about like, hey, you know, I just saw this in Compton Lakes, you know, this is something that like I heard from some of the business owners there. You know, when they design a program, like I want
it to be able to be beneficial to a business. I you know, sometimes and and I I'm guilty of this because I work for the state, I work for the EDI, I develop programs. You know, you you think about a program, you think about the development of a program, and in your head it sounds so good, but on the on in in practice when you talk to a business
owner, like it doesn't make sense, you know, it doesn't it doesn't hit the nail on the head, right? It kind of misses off to the left or off to the right a little bit. So, I really want to start that conversation and especially as we're getting into a new administration, like I want Pate County, I want Pompin Lakes to be kind of at the forefront of
their mind of, you know, how can we do better here? So, um, I'm going to do more of that, but we're going to hopefully identify something in early 2026 or we can have them back here. Um, and I'd invite with council and with mayor the administration if you guys would join us. Love to do that. But, um,
you know, I'd like to think about how we can get some of the grant and incentive programs that are benefiting other parts of the state to benefit you guys here in Papa Lakes. Um, with that, um, my last side is just my contact information. Um, and I'm available to you guys here on
the council, the administration. um business owners here in town, uh my information is on there. Please reach out. I will come to you. I will schedule a phone call. I'll meet on Teams or on Zoom or whatever works for a business. Um you know, I generally don't like to
answer the call on a Saturday or Sunday if I can help it. But um you know, listen, if if a business owner um is going through something and needs some help or a business owner has an idea and wants to talk through how to implement it, I'm happy to work with them. Um, you know, I'm again I'm I'm new to this
role, but I'm I'm fairly enthusiastic about State County. I'm born and raised here. I care about this place. Like I I know Pompin Lakes. I know the towns that I I work in. So, um I think I speak for myself and and my colleagues at the county. Like, we're here to help. We're here to um be a partner. I think we've
got a very good relationship the the town and and the county. I'd like to keep that going. And I know, you know, not only are we partnering on stuff on Wanuku, but in other parts of town as well. um like to keep that going. So, I'll stop talking. If folks have questions, I'm happy to answer, but uh I thank you for your time. >> So, first of all, thank you for coming
and explaining what you do. It's an important part of what we do in town. I can tell you, you know, I've been involved a while and it's one of my bigger pushes is to get our downtown redone and and you mentioned the redevelopment and the bid. These are all parts that put together to the town. So, having more help with that is always going to be grateful. And I can tell you
just this Saturday, our business administrator, I mean, um, our bid director called me and he goes, "Look, there's a uh, a shop that I'd like to talk to you." And he has just the things you're bringing up now. And we went down and spoke and, you know, he has some ideas of things he'd like to try and and this is where the partnership's going to
work together. Um, you know, and all these loans and things, as you know, because you do this these new businesses coming in, it's a tough first year. So, if they can get some payment and some money and some help, that those are all good things. So I I I look forward to working and you know you're really if you could come to the bid meetings once
in a while that would be wonderful. Um and that's where we'll do a lot of this. >> So thank thank you for coming. Anybody got any concerns, questions? >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you guys so much for coming. I'll stick around for a bit. My card here if anybody is wants to chat. I'll be I'll be in the audience.
>> Great. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Can I have a motion to open the meeting for public comments? >> Councilman Hinton. Councilman Bennon. All in favor? >> I >> against anyone from the public like to address. >> Seeing no one have a motion to close the
public no >> got hit. >> Good evening council mayor Michael getting a little tired of getting disingenuous answers. Three weeks ago, you said very quickly, very soon, very
soon. Last week, I was at 11:02 KFax Avenue, you don't even have a second bid on filling the pipe. That contractor that was there was totally lost as to what to do, how to do it, or even why if he was going to do it, and you're telling me that it's going to happen
soon? I've lost this year. Some of my contractors are now backing out because the ground's going to freeze and they can't do the work. So, you're exposing my family to another winner of a dangerous backyard. We can't step out of our back of the house,
right? I'm a little sick of getting that. And I'm also tired of you being a bully. Cuz if you look at the ordinance, this is supposed to be a discussion, not an answer from you. I don't have to report to you. You report to the people and I'm a taxpayer here. It's a
discussion. Look at the ordinance. It's not, you know, I say something and then I've got to go take your answer. Discussion means an exchange of ideas. And if you don't have any ideas, and I haven't heard any that are really concrete, I only hear disingenuous
answers from yourself and some of your administration. You're getting tired of it. When am I really going to hear a plan? Nobody has a plan. Do you know when the next step's going to be to fill that pipe? You know what the next step's
going to be to address the financial damage that you've done to my property for 16 years? Well, my family should not be exposed to this. Don't keep putting us through this mental stress. It's foolish and it could
be very costly. >> You're not going to get into a discussion, right? You're not going to adhere to the ordinance. We'll >> answer at the end. >> It's not answer at the end. It's a discussion. >> I'll answer at the end. >> Why? >> Why aren't you answering? >> And I'll explain that to you at the end. >> I want to hear it. Thank you.
>> Anyone else from the public like to address? >> Seeing no one have a motion to close public session. >> Motion. >> Councilman Bennett. >> Second. >> Councilwoman uh Kent. All in favor? >> I. >> Mr. Popoff, you can come up here and yell and scream and all you want to do. We're doing the process the way we have
to do it. Okay. We already had a meeting which you were not part of just this week about what has to be done. You do not tell us when we're going to do something. We're doing it as quickly as we can. I can tell you >> no speaking from the audience, please. I'm talking now. I didn't talk when you were talking.
>> Okay. We are way off. >> I said a discussion. >> There is no discussion. >> Yes, there is. The ordinance. >> The ordinance does not say discussion. I'm going to get to that in a minute. Okay. We are way off on what you're proposing your damages are. Okay. and and I will not put my taxpayers up on
your on your numbers that you think are correct. So, that's a discussion we're going to have to have and I know my administration is going to reach out to you and we're going to set up a meeting to talk with our engineers, with our planners, with everybody involved. If we don't get closer in the numbers, I don't know what's going to happen, but I will
not put you I will not let you hold my taxpayers hostage for money. That's not going to happen. >> I'm not holding anyone hostage. >> So, now let's talk about the discussion. I set the agenda >> last year. >> Let's talk about the what you just said. I set the agenda, not you. My agenda is done this way.
>> I have to adhere to the ordinance says I set the agenda. That's what it says. And the way I handle my agenda has nothing to do with you. There is no discussion and you shouldn't be discussing it right now. So, thank you. Uh Mike, I'll let you answer. We're going to reach out to him and talk. >> We're going to have a meeting with you
>> someday, sometime within my lifetime. >> It's not on your time frame. It's on our time frame. Okay. We'll get it done. We're the first administration that's actually done something to make this work. The pipe is going to be fixed. >> How long have you been mayor? >> That's administration. I don't go out with a shovel and dig at dig holes.
>> I didn't expect you to. >> Okay. At I'm going to give Michael a lot of credit here for being the person that got this fixed and done. Okay. I'm also going to say filling the pipe has nothing to do with the damage that's done. The pipe is just an afterthought that has to be filled. It will be filled
by November probably. Okay. Okay. But we'll have a meeting about that to discuss it and Michael will set that up. Correct. >> Yep. >> Right. Someday sometime. >> Thank you for your comments. Okay. Motion to approve the following minutes. Regular meeting minutes October 22nd,
2025. Close session meeting minutes October 22, 2025. And I have a motion. >> Motion. Councilman Hinton. >> Second. >> Councilman Bennon. All in favor? >> I against. Uh authorizing bills and payments as listed below. Can I have a
motion? >> Motion. >> Councilman Bennett. >> Second. >> Councilman Hinton. All in favor? >> I uh consent agenda. Anybody need anything removed? >> Um
yeah, I just had a question on 25370. >> Okay. Anybody else? >> Nope. Okay. Whereas the mayor and burough council of the burough of content lakes has reviewed the consent agenda consisting of various proposed resolution. Whereas
the mayor and burough council of the burrow of content lakes does desire to remove resolution for individual actions from that agenda. Now therefore be it resolved that the following resolutions on the consent agenda are hereby approved. Resolution 25-357
through 25-384. We're going to move 2537. >> Okay. Can I have a motion? >> Motion. >> Councilwoman Kent. >> Second. Second. Councilman Bennon. All in favor? I against. >> I'm sorry. Kent and
>> Benn. >> Okay. 25370 >> appointing Brian Vanderstat, Joseph Capa Biano, and Hector Alcantara as municipal humane law enforcement officers for the burrow of Thompson Lakes. >> Question. My question was on the
resolution it says appoint at least one. Um, now we're appointing three. Is there a reason why we're appointing three >> or is this a stipen for each officer or >> No, it's not a stipen. It's actually the
reason that we're uh I'm asking for the appointment of these officers. Uh two reasons. Right now, we have two officers that are humane officers. They're two sergeants. One's going to be retiring shortly. But that being said, um they're on the same side. and if there are
animal remain issues um in the past due to the limited personnel we've had to sometimes call people in on overtime and things of that nature. So the other side of this um is that in order to get them to the training that they need, they
have to be appointed first. And by having um by having these options, then nine times out of 10, I'll have someone available during a regular shift that can handle these matters uh during the normal course of their duties >> as opposed to just having one. >> Correct.
>> You would have a choice between three. >> Correct. And uh with this uh with this lineup um especially with us about to do our new scheduling for the new year, we'll have it in such a way that we're always covered on every shift. How does
this work with Bloom andale Animal Control? Um, don't aren't they called in first or >> So, it depends on the situation, but Bloomingdale control is limited in what they can do in in certain aspects. So, if there's an investigation that it can
be done with animal cruelty, we'll we'll work that investigation and um we'll include uh we'll include Lisa Perry and things of that nature. She's the I forget her title, but she runs Bloomingdale Animal and stuff like that. So, we'll work in conjunction with her.
>> Okay. Just curious about it. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> All right. Uh, can I have a motion for 25-370? Motion. >> Councilman Bettin. >> Second. >> Councilman Hinton. All in favor? >> I. Okay.
>> Ordinances. Whenever you're ready, >> ordinance 25-28. An ordinance repealing chapter 8 section 8-4.5 throwing or depositing litter from vehicles. >> Motion to approve ordinance 25-28 for introduction. >> Motion.
>> Councilman Dennon. >> Second. >> Councilman Hinton. Roll call, please. Any discussion? >> Nope. Okay. Roll call, please. >> Councilman Hinton. >> Uh, yes. >> Councilwoman, >> yes. >> Councilman Clint,
>> yes. presented. >> Yes. >> Ordinance 25-29 and amending chapter 10 of the revised general ordinances of the Burrow of Compton Lacing changing the license date for dog and cat licenses and the fee for late filing.
>> Motion to approve ordinance 25-29 for introduction. >> Motion. >> Councilman Vennon. >> Second. >> Councilman Hinton. Roll call. Any discussion? >> Nope. >> No. >> Okay. Roll call, please. Councilman. >> Yes. Yes. >> Councilman.
>> Hi. >> Councilman. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Okay. Thank you, Liz. Okay. Under my report, we'll start with the uh veterans memorial service we had uh yesterday. I uh I'm glad to see our residents still come out and support that. Um you know,
it's an important part for education for our kids, but also education for our adults. And I and I have to thank all the groups that I can always count on to come out to that. you know, the police, the fire, first aid, the c the DPW cert, of course, the band always comes out and helps us support us when we need and and
and the residents, too. You know, it's a cold night, it's dark, and they still come out and support us. So, it's a big deal for us. At the end of the day, this is about our veterans who put their time and energy into protecting us. So, we they deserve to have a ceremony to support them. So, I I welcome I thank everyone for being involved with that. I
thank Liz and the office staff for putting it together. I know it's timeconuming. Um, so thank you for that. Uh, today myself and a couple other people here uh had a meeting with the Meridian project in town. Uh, we got some, you know, we had some questions
about how things are going and we got some good news and and they hope to have it open and running by September 1st. Uh, finished and start renting by then. You know, hopefully we can hold them to that. Uh, I I will be meeting with them down at the league to discuss what uh
retail is going in the bottom. So, we'll get some more information on that. Uh, the other good news is they hope to have the civic center completely finished in another month. >> Now, now theoretically then we could go use that building, but my administrator reminded me this morning, it still has
to be painted and we have to get furniture in there and all those kind of things which will we will move it along. But, you know, I would say in the next month or two, we're back to having the civic center open and having our meetings there again for anybody who wants to hold meetings there with a new improved building with storage on top
with uh locker rooms for the uh uh our women police officers, a new new offices for some of our police department and then two meeting rooms within that. So, I you know, and that was all part of the deal worked out at redevelopment level when this building came in. They had they did all that for free. That was not
coming out of taxpayer dollars. So, if you haven't taken a look at the building in the back, all the new siding and the windows and the doors, that's all coming from the contractor to do and the work to have it all done. >> Are we going to do a new generator over there? >> We are. We're setting it up with a plug
to have a generator. Uh we're not purchasing the generator yet, but we will in near future have it. So, we will be able to plug in at some point. >> Okay. So, emergencies for >> OEM. Yep. Al had brought up uh you know some points that we brought in. Just to add to that, we're looking to install a
transfer switch that would allow for a portable generator to uh fun electricity for uh the HVAC system and the lights, but on the back end, we're working with the burrow engineer to put in a permanent uh whole house generator, you
would call it, uh sometime in in the near future. >> Good. Very good. >> And I know our OEM director had mentioned that maybe try to get more outlets in there to charge their their phones and things when when power goes out, which was a great idea. So, we're going to do that also. So, I you know, for the people haven't, you know, we
used to use the civic center every day of the week, sometimes seven days a week. It was a very important building here in town. And we haven't used it in, I'd say, three years, less, maybe, maybe longer. >> Um, at least two years. >> Yeah. So, you know, it was a big loss for us when we didn't have it. Having it come back is going to be a big deal for
us. We can have our our local groups meet, you know, besides our our commissions and liaison, we can have the Girl Scouts or Boy Scouts or or whoever has to do projects in there. So, it's a it's a big building coming back. So, I'm I'm happy to see that. Uh had a meeting with the attorneys to discuss uh some
litigation. Uh I know the uh election results are not uh verified yet. Um but congratulations to everybody that was involved with the election. You know, here in Pmpton Lakes, uh we had good numbers come out and vote, which is always important no matter what side of the stance you're on. uh you know coming
out and voting and speaking your mind is the most important part about an election right at the end of the day. So you know we do pretty good with that. I know I came here to vote and was my mistake. I came at 6:00 at night to vote here in town hall. I waited an hour and 15 minutes to to get through the line.
It was that long. It went out to the street. So you know that's the first time and it's the last time I'm going to come at six o'clock at night. But uh >> we need cold workers. >> We need That's Thank you. The one of the biggest problems the whole county is having is pole workers. People to work the polls. They get paid 300 is it now
le >> 300 >> 300 to to do the day. It is a long day. It's 12 hours. >> Oh no 15. >> Okay. Well 15. >> But if we don't have the pole workers it makes it very difficult to move the lines through. So if you are interested if you're retired there's a class that's a half day class. Is it Maria?
>> Uh two hours. >> Two hours. Do you get paid for that? >> No. >> No. You got to take a class for two hours and then you're able to work. You don't have to work in the town you live in. You can if you want, but there they'll put you in any town in P County. Um, and uh, it's a nice little gig for one day if you're interested. And please
reach out to our burough clerk or to the county itself to to help that, but they are very very short with pole workers. Uh, I attended two ribbon cutings, one for cookies and cream uh, downtown. You know, we're just talking about our redevelopment and all the things going on down there. That's a great little franchise business that came in that
there's a numerous uh, stores like that. It's not just a one oneoff. That's the kind of businesses we want to bring into town, right? We want to bring in these bigger name stores. Um, great cookies if you haven't been there. Beautiful mur mural of uh Pton Lakes High School on
the wall inside. They did really nice job with it. It's next to Wendy's. Uh, take a look if you if you're into cookies, which I am. They're great cookies. Um, >> ice cream, too. >> And ice cream. We also had a uh ribbon cutting for our Name the Turtle, which I'm sure Councilwoman Kent will talk
about at the park. always good to add new equipment to our recreation facilities and have the kids involved when we do it. So, that that's always nice to do. And lastly, uh well, I did a couple weddings, but lastly, let me get this straight now because it got a little confusing for myself. The
calendar is a little long for the for garbage pickup. Tomorrow, Thursday, will be burrowwide leaf pickup. Burrowwide leaf pickup. Friday, will be garbage pickup only on the north side. Okay,
next week, no, two weeks from now, we'll go back to our normal schedule, but the calendar does have some mis misinformation in there. A reverse 911 call did go out on this, but I'm reminding the residents again that uh the calendar is not correct. And that is my report.
Uh who was up? Uh Councilman Quinn, thank you. Uh I attended the flood advisory board meeting. Uh it looks like we are going to be able to fill all the board positions and uh some good ideas were also discussed on how to build the
bench and have people waiting when uh openings do occur. Uh in addition, I attended the pumpkin hunt at uh Hersfield Park. It was a huge success. Uh some announcements. Uh St. St. Mary's
Food Pantry is looking for food for uh Thanksgiving and Christmas season. Uh November 15th, bid bug sale, 10:30 to 1:00 p.m. while supplies last. Prompton Lakes High School parking lot. Uh December 6th, holiday stroll. December 13th, breakfast with Santa.
Also, Toys for Tots on December 13th, 105 to 135 uh station books and vinyl shop. Uh also PBA toy drive started uh November 1st goes till 12 uh well December 16th uh collection box is in
the lobby here at 25 Lennox. And that's what my report. >> Thank you. And a lot of important information there especially the the bid buck sale for people and you know I forget that a lot of people don't know what the bid buck sale means. You can buy uh a $100 $150 worth of bid dollars,
which are a special dollar that's used in our shops here in town for $100. It's used at most uh venues in town. It's a great deal. Uh we sell out quickly with them. Um and it goes back to what we started the meeting about about uh with our bid and our
redevelopment and all that going on. But so if you're interested and you're new to town, especially around Christmas, it's a good way to save $50 and get exactly what you need. A lot of the events he just mentioned, the toy, the toys for tots, the um breakfast with Santa, they do sell out. So, if you're interested in those, not the toys for
tots, but the breakfast with Santaas, that does sell out. So, you have to get your money in early and get a table if you're interested in that. Uh, Councilman Bennett, >> thank you, Mayor. I want to start by thanking John Carlo for your presentation. I look forward to working with you and all the programs that
you're proposing. Uh, Veterans Day ceremony last night, uh, very well attended. Thank you to all who um attended, but also who uh all the staff who put it together every year. And of course, thank you to our veterans. Uh right before this this meeting, I was at
the Popper Links High School open house for my eighth grader. Can't believe Melanie is going to go into high school next year. Um they talked about some great programs that the board of education and the high school are offering for next year including biotech engineering, computer science. Uh in
addition to um a push on uh the trades, uh Pompton Lakes Education Foundation trivia night. We had a great time. Came in s third place, second place. Not bad for coming back from uh last place a couple times with our hodgepodge team. Um that was a great time and and happy
to uh support the Pontton Lakes Education Foundation. As Mayor Mike mentioned, uh ribbon cutting cookies and cream. I recommend the uh Dubai chocolate cookie is very we'll say very delicious um among the other ones. Uh congratulations to the store owners. Uh
the Halloween hunt very well attended. It gets a little less uh controlled every year kind of like every does their own thing. We got done in about half an hour. used used to be very um segmented, right? The little kids go first and then the bigger kids on the playground.
>> The bigger kids on the playground and the biggest kids are in in the thing. This time there's just like everybody just went and we were done in half an hour, which you know, good and bad. Um last year commission met. Uh there's an opportunity there. I believe it's in Bloomingdale. Is that right now? There's
a property that was purchased by the county that we may have an opportunity to share some space with as a um a museum. So, multiple towns come together. We have a each potentially each each town in the area has a room
within that space to show our um our various artifacts that are just sitting in storage currently right now somewhere out in the in the hallway there. But, uh this this idea I think if it takes off would be would pretty pretty amazing. we wouldn't have to maintain our own museum here in Prompton. It could be a combined
museum um for all of uh east upper p county. Uh oh, lastly, congratulations to the dojo I've been going to for about 10 years now. Uh to uh traditional Okan Island karate of Kennelan celebrated 20 years of being a dojo uh November 9th.
And that's my report. And just keep in mind some of that furniture that that we had talked about at the historic that we're going to put in the civic center is going to be cabinetry to hold some of the uh historic stuff we have. So we are going to look at some cabinets that will hold stuff on the walls for the historic because they had asked for that. Uh
Councilman Hinton. >> Yes. I would like to read a motion a motion to approve the request of St. Mary's Church to close the road shoulder for procession of the Virgin of Guadaloop
7 a.m. to 8:30 a.m. on Sunday, December 7th, 2025. Usage of the eastbound lane of Hamburg Turner Park, northbound lane of Ringwood Avenue and eastbound lane of Wanuku
Avenue ending on Lennox a with the condition the procession remain in the shoulder of the roadway and will not occupy the travel lane. There will be two special officers assigned to assist
along the route. P County Engineering Department, Insurance Agency, Police and Fire and First Aid Departments have been notified. >> Can I have a second? >> Second. >> Councilwoman Kent. All in favor? >> I I >> Can I just add real quick? Uh because I
do get calls on that. It it starts early. It's 7 to 8:30 and they do have a band playing a little bit of music and you'll hear drums. Just understand that that's what this is for. Okay? Don't make calls to the police department what's going on at 7:00 in the morning. They're walking down the street. That that's basically what they're doing.
And another motion to approve the request of Councilwoman Polandari to close Lakeside Avenue from the intersection of Lakeside Avenue and Waniku Avenue through to Lakeside and Kfax Avenue
between the hours of 11:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m. on Saturday, December 13th, 2025 for the annual toys for tots train. Police, first aid, and fire departments have been notified.
>> You have a second. >> Second. >> Councilman. All in favor? >> I against. >> Um meetings I attended was the senior meeting. 25 people attended. They're getting ready for their uh Thanksgiving
dinner and the holidays. So, um they're all excited about that. Um I attended the ribbon cutting ceremony for cookies and cream store. And I'll also add the cookies were excellent. Um I attended
the Veterans Day celebration last night. Uh so nice to see so many out on a very cold night. It was uh a nice presentation. Um and tonight's council meeting I'm at
already, so I can report that next time. Um a couple of things I just wanted to bring up. Um well, I mentioned it the last time. >> Well, it has to do with your the ships because you can That's what this is for. Leaison.
>> He gets me every time. >> No, he's still talking about just the privilege on four. That's all. other and then it's no more on my leazison. >> All right. So you can do it later unless it's quick then just say >> no I'm never qu >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> That is all. >> Thank you. Uh Councilwoman Kent.
>> Okay. Thank you mayor. Um I also want to thank Bay County uh uh John Carlo for coming in. I had no idea you that office existed. So I'm looking forward to that. But I'm also the liaison to the bid. So I'll be seeing you there at the meetings
and be happy to talk to you about those things. Um I do have an update from the superintendent of DPW Dan Oor as he said tomorrow uh is only town life leaf. So that is uh I verified that and Friday is
only for the north trash collection and it is very confusing. >> That's just for the holidays. >> Just for the holidays that's it. The recycling center is being paved, but it's still going to be open to the residents. I think originally they were going to close it, but they don't have to. So, and there are no detours, so you
can just go in there and and do your recycling as as usual. Your our storm basin cleaning will be finished and completed by the end of this uh next week. So, that's all that will all be done. Uh no tra
collection on November 27th and 28th. Okay. and the recycling center will be closed on those on those two days as well. Reminder that the residents can still purchase leaf bags from the recycling center. The package is $5 for
10 bags or $1 for two bags. Residents have three more weeks of curbside leaf collection and the final date of collection for your leaves are Friday is Friday, December 12th. After that, you need to bring your leaves to the
recycling center. So you still still can get rid of your leaves. You're just going to have to carry it there. So uh Saturday on the 22nd there is Payic County hazardous waste collection and is free of charge for Pmpton Lakes. It's located at the Payic County Community
College over in Wanuk on 500 Union Avenue. That is rain or shine from 7:30 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. And that does not include paint uh latex paint. Okay? only hazardous materials. And lastly, please
let the residents know that the crews at the DPW wishes everyone a happy Thanksgiving with their families. That's very nice. Uh mayor, on the agenda, um >> I'll get to it. I'm sorry. I forgot it. >> Do you want to do it now? >> Yeah, let's go down. >> Sure.
>> Um I'd like to appoint Kayn Okconor. >> Is that who you're talking about? >> No, not Well, I I I'm going to bring that up. Yes. >> Okay. But I got to do the appointment. So, you want to do it now? Yeah. Okay, that's fine. >> All right. So, I'd like to appoint Caitlyn Okconor uh to be a full commissioner for the Shade Tree
Commission. Um she is a uh >> she's a professor. >> No, no, she is a What is she now? She's >> She's Oh, an alternate. >> Alternate. >> She's an alternate. She's going into a full position that that opened up. >> Yes. >> Can I have a second? >> Second. >> Councilwoman Kent. All in favor? I >> I Yes. Okay.
>> Okay. The other thing I was going to mention that on our on our agenda tonight, we mentioned the um the proclamation for the public works first responders day, but we're going to do that next next month. And I think our DPW folks want to be there. They're very
excited to have receive that. Um okay, our ne Okay, let me see. Oh, shade tree commission. Just so you know, if your tree if you think your tree needs pruning, there we're out of money. So, we're going to put your uh that tree on the list for next year. Okay. So, call
it in and we'll take care of it. Um and thank you for Commissioner uh Okconor. She's she's very good and she's the one that does is helping with all the planting, taking somebody's place down there. But she's doing the best she can. She's doing a good job. >> Good job. She's doing a very good job.
>> Um I also sign the bills. So, we pay our bills. I did work as I do work as an election uh election poll person and it is a long day and they pay $300 and we need election people. We need it
because you can't serve the public with two people. You can't do it. It's just not it's not fair to anybody and you shouldn't have to wait and you know an hour in line. You should not. Um I also attend the cookies and cream ribbon. I like the ice cream. Okay. So, it's a
great place to go and they're very nice. Um, we talked about this last month, but the open space awards, there were two young sec second graders, two a girl and a boy, and they won the art contest and our new turtle down in Hersfield Park
that is uh named Kevin Shelly. Okay, Shelly meaning the shell of a turtle. So, that's what the little one told me. It was very cute. We have and attending that ribbon cutting was Mayor Sarah Council President Jen Polydori, Councilman Bobby Cruz, Councilman Denon,
the two elementary school principles, Mr. McCarthy, Mr. Renee, and other members of the Open Space Committee including Karen Murphy and Lloyd Kent. The photos are on the website. The kids were so thrilled to receive their awards and u very happy to have our our new
mascot down there. uh search training for those who are interested or if they want to join is November 13th and November 20th. I also attended the Veterans Day ceremony last evening and it was beautiful and very warm and moving and we thanked all the veterans
that were standing on the side. I thought it went really well. Um we had a number of people attend including our police, fire, ambulance squad, our scouts or VFW members and Paya County commissioners. So it was really really well attended with a lot
of people. Uh couple I guess maybe a month and a half ago we had a number of residents come from Lambert Street and we talked about the parking on Lambert Street. It's a very narrow streets and old street with um
only a few homes. But the problem uh we that I find is I went there to find out why there's such a problem with parking like and you can't get cars in and out. There is this very large recreational
boat that one of the residents parks on this street. Now I looked at it. I I talked to our our chief and my understanding is um you know I think a lot of the parking problems and the access in and out of that street would
be really impacted in a in a positive way if you don't park a boat there. I mean it's a big boat and a and a trailer and a truck and you can't get in and out. So, we do have, thanks to um Captain Rodriguez, um we have an
ordinance that it for another street for Chandlan uh Chandler Street, Chandler Lane, >> Chandler Court. We do have an ordinance that says no boat parking. So, I would suggest that we come up with another ordinance or just amend that ordinance
to include Lambert Street. That to me is the easiest easiest thing rather than, you know, trying to make the road bigger, taking property away. It's it seems to me is the most obvious thing that we work with initially and it won't cost us anything just to amend an
existing ordinance. So I'm going to recommend that and if we have I'm not sure who's the ordinance chair. >> Well, we had a meeting on it and we talked about it and there were some other issues besides the boat, right? >> So it's it's it's too narrow of a street for for uh emergency vehicles, >> right? But if you get rid of that boat,
that's going to get rid >> No, the actual street itself is too narrow. So we're going to have to address that. >> Okay. But I'd like to get rid of that boat because it shouldn't you we should not have boats parked. >> Well, and first of all, they'd be grandfathered in about the boat. So, you can't pass a spot zone. You can't say
we're putting this in now. You got to move the boat. They would be grandfathered in to keep their boat there. It would be moving forward. You couldn't keep a boat there >> moving forward. That's fine. But I I I I think we should really take take a look at that because we do have it's an it's not >> Well, we have that for the for the people who are uh using trailers in
Chandler Court. That's why we have that one. Well, this is a trailer, too. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, >> I think it's something that would work. >> Okay. Um, we also brought up uh last meeting at the lightning audible alarm display, and there was some concern and confusion about what that alarm actually
uh would be involved with, and that the Rotary is asking for uh donations, the the Rotary um club in Pmpton Lakes. Uh, and it it seems that really what it is, it's a it's an auxiliary piece of equipment to what's existing and it's
around $12,000. So, the open space uh group wanted to uh participate in that and to use some of the open space. I feel they feel that that is an appropriate use of money for um for Willowfield and Joe Grillil and it will
service and what it will do is you know if lightning is in the area this thing will go off and it it it makes a very loud sound and it also displays blinking lights which we don't have any down there and the one and but it it'll be connected to the school as so we're not
buying a whole new system just a display so I am attending the Rotary lunchon tomorrow thank you Mr. Bulby for the invitation and we I'm going to find out a little bit more about it and then we can talk about um you know paying for that through at least in part in part uh
open space funding. Um I also attended the pumpkin hunt with my grandchildren. They had a ball. They loved all the goodie bags. Every recreation does an amazing job and it was a lot of fun. And I also attended the flood advisory board and um I
recommended to them that they have and again have alternative um board members. That way when you do lose someone to, you know, they want to quit or they move or whatever, you don't have to start brand new cuz there's a ton of
rules and regulations and things that we that the flood board has to have and bringing a new person in takes a long time to to to pick up. So, I don't know how you would do that. >> Well, I would ask Michael or Liz is do we know if there's um any state regulation on on how we set that board
up, the flood advisory board? Is that >> research? Yeah, we have to look into that. >> Yeah, we have to look into it. >> I believe in the flood advisory board meeting. Uh Lauren said they just had to change the uh bylaws. Our bylaws or their bylaws? >> Their bylaws.
>> Yes, you're correct. >> Yeah. >> So, if we can if we can do that, then we can put two more people on. We had I think we had three applicants, right? >> Yes. >> So there were like three people we and technically you'd only put one in if one person leaves, but now you can actually they can actually serve. >> Yep.
>> But they just wouldn't be full board. They wouldn't be able to vote, but they could come to the meeting and they could sit in when people are there. And it's really important that we keep our flood board uh fully staffed because thank god we haven't really needed them. And but it it's a good thing and it'll help our CRS program I think too, right, Liz?
>> Yeah. So, it'll it'll help that in keeping our flood insurance rates down. And that is my report. >> Okay. Thank you. Okay. We're going to do a swap out, I think, coming right behind me here. >> Who Who's doing the bantorial report?
>> Okay. >> We're going to let my partner do a celebr. >> Thank you. Oh, you can't get out this way. >> I'm going to let Mike, you go to your report first. You You'll go next. You'll go next. We'll let Mike go. Okay. >> Yep. >> Thank you, Mayor. Uh please note that the water ballet and Albany Avenue
improvement project continues to progress. Uh the project remains in the concrete phase as the contractor is in the process of installing new curving and driveway aprons. Uh the work is expected to last a couple more weeks. Uh at which point we will issue a schedule
for the milling and paving again weather dependent. So we are looking forward to that. Uh the Willow field improvements project also is in process right now. Uh the burough's contractor down tree service is actively removing stumps at which point the contractor will begin
site grading and storm water infrastructure installations. The burough engineer remains on site performing inspections and managing the project. Um, in speaking with councilwoman Kent, we are going to arrange a meeting with the mayor,
Councilman Hinton, uh, Councilwoman Kent, and the burough engineer and I to discuss, uh, just the more in-depth update uh, as the liaison to the open space committee. So, we're looking forward to that. Uh,
furthermore, uh, I had sent out an email uh, earlier this week. the burrow as part of a flood buyout program from the township of Wayne and now owns 417 Popular A. So we have made uh the necessary folks aware of that uh
purchase and the uh township of Wayne is working with us on potential uh demolition later this winter early next spring at which point the property will return to its natural state as are the other flood by properties. Uh just
wanted to highlight the importance of this property because it's it's one property that's left out of many that were bought out and uh it's a benefit to us and and it takes our first responders out of harm's way during major floods. Uh prevents risk.
It isn't in a severe repetitive loss area as identified by FEMA. Um so we are looking forward to that and we have one more flood buyout coming again through the township of Wayne uh agreement at which point we don't have any on the
immediate horizon thereafter. So we are uh working on that. Uh for the Hersfield Park phase one improvement project with which consists of the renovations to our storage shed uh project is underway. I wanted to thank the recreation
commission for emptying the building and the contractor is in the electrical and plumbing phase right now. Uh we have picked out all our color schematics and fixture uh fixtures and whatnot. So we are looking forward and that project is
on schedule to be completed by Christmas. So that uh is on the horizon. As Councilwoman Kent indicated, tomorrow the entrance to the recycling center is closed. the county of Payic is coming in and paving the last section of the
recycling center. So, the whole lot will be paved. Uh so, we thank the county for their partnership on that project. Uh just a reminder, our annual requests for qualifications, our RFQS are posted and those are for our burough professional
contracts for next year. Those are due next Thursday, November 20th. So, we'll review those in the near future. And lastly, the CFO and I have scheduled all of our departmental budget hearings uh for later this month, early December, at
which point we will convene with the finance committee. Uh so I thank all the department heads for their time and willingness to meet on the budget. Thank you. >> So just going back to uh the paving, we're hoping to get that done though by the end of November, correct? In water
and Albony. >> Correct. >> Right. So that >> that is the goal. >> That's the goal. Right. Uh last point I'd like to make with the with the county present. Uh on tonight's agenda, we do have a grant submitt to the New Jersey Transportation Planning Authority
uh for the Complete Streets Technical Assistance Program. It's going to fund what's called a corridor neighborhood complete streets assessment uh in which basically the professionals of the state of New Jersey come out and look at our streetscape and our traffic and our
pedestrian safety infrastructure within Wanuku a and they kind of come up come up with a plan and how we can make it safer, more businessfriendly, uh traffic patterns, all of that stuff. So we are going to be looking at that for next year. Um, and we thank the
county for their partnership with us on that. Thank you. >> Uh, any questions for the administration? >> No, no, nothing. Nothing. Okay. Now, we'll go to the attorney's report. >> Thank you, Matt. Um, just briefly, um, last at our last meeting, a question
came up about the uh, fees paid by the burrow for the maintenance of the Skylar Railroad crossing. I did take a look at that. Michael was able to uh, send over the agreement. There is a 1962 agreement um under which the burrow had reached
out to the railroad requesting that a grade crossing be put there and the agreement uh does place the maintenance cost of the equipment requested by the burrow which is what we're being um uh
build for. Um it does put that cost on the burrow. Um and it is what uh what they have said in response is that the the maintenance costs that they don't make any money on it. They are these are strictly the maintenance costs dollar
for-dollar maintenance costs that they pay and that they uh then bill us for in turn under the 1962 agreement. There was litigation between the burrow and the railroad in 1999 and I have reached out
to the general counsel for the railroad who said that you know there was litigation um >> who brought the litigation >> the bureau challenged the uh fee unsuccessfully. So, I want to just take a look at that to see what the issue was because I don't even frankly looking at
the agreement, it seems fairly straightforward that uh these are these are improvements requested by the bureau that the that the railroad made with the agreement that the bureau would pay those maintenance fees. So, I I'll take a look at that because I'm just curious,
but um yeah, that that it's a 1962 agreement and there's no, you know, sunset provision for that. Um, and I'm sure in 1962 those maintenance fees were quite a bit less. So, um, that's where >> Oh, you have any I know because you're the one who voter opinion. >> Yes, you had brought that up,
Councilman. >> To me, it's ridiculous. >> I agree with you, actually. >> I mean, forever. I mean, whatever improvements they did to the tracks at the time, they're not doing anything else. It's all paid. There's there's no
cross uh bars that come down. There's no maintenance at all. So, we have to pay the burrow, the taxpayer has to pay forever from an agreement from 1962. I think we figured it out already. We've already paid a half a million dollars.
>> So, the >> and we're going to keep paying forever. >> Well, we can't just stop. We'd have to take >> Well, but I mean, this is ridiculous. >> But it sounds like if Correct. We took them to court already. >> So, and I and I'll take a look at that. Um, but >> there's another crossing farther down
Kfax a to the apartments. Same crossing, no lights, no nothing. We're then and we're not paying for that, but we're paying for this one. Now, there's two other crossings on Wanq and Ringwood AB, but of course those are
county roads and whatever agreement the county has, >> we don't know and we don't care, >> right? But on this one, we're going to pay until the cows come home. We're going to pay forever. >> And the the the maintenance is maintenance that's required by the state
of New Jersey. So, I just should should add that that they don't have a choice about what, you know, level of maintenance. They come out, they do an inspection, they do the maintenance. >> We're paying on one and not paying on the other. >> Yeah. I you know, I can only say >> doesn't make any sense to me. It it it's
probably because we requested the one but not the other. >> But >> I'll take a look at the litigation, but I just wanted to give you the history there. >> No, I don't disagree with you. >> But but if we took him and lost once, taking him again is not going to help us unless we find something different.
>> Well, I mean, we'll let him go and >> Yes, we'll let him go. Yes. Yes. >> And I shall. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Anything else? >> No, nothing else. Unless there are any questions. >> Uh any questions? >> No. Okay. Uh >> quick
>> um I just wanted to highlight a few things that the police department uh were involved in this month. So we had uh some pretty strong community engagement. So the officers uh well we participated in the car show. We had uh drug takeback day which is DEA drug
takeback day where we uh collect um prescription medication from residents in our town other town. Just put that in perspective. We collected around almost 40 pounds of of um of pills andor
medication that day. Um we also uh participated with the Pmpton Lakes High School uh personal uh uh law class. uh police officer Flynn and Detective Ford uh accompanied that class
to Bergen County Jail and it offered uh you know offered our students an educational look at uh law enforcement operations in that in that in that facility. And then uh just uh looking ahead um our department is uh getting
prepared uh for the holiday stroll. Um, we're also going to be finalizing our ebike safety town hall presentation. So, I should have dates for you guys to uh say everybody's good and uh by tomorrow
I'll send it out into an email. Um, and again, uh, looking for the ebike safety, uh, I'll send that out. And then also as the holiday season uh draws uh closer um just a message to the residents if they
see anything suspicious uh things like that to always just give us a call. Um I know a lot of towns it's all on social media where you see people running up to uh you know people's front of their houses taking packages and it's that time of year as we're getting into the holiday season. So, um, just be
diligent. If you see something, call us and we'll be happy to respond even if you think it's nothing. That's it. >> And I'm just going to go down on that a little bit more. Don't be afraid to call the police department if you see something suspicious because >> a lot of the times it turns into something. You know, it looks, you know,
somebody walking around at 3:00 in the morning outside neighborhoods, you can call about that. They'll send a car. They'll talk to him. If he's out for a walk, he'll say, "I'm out for a walk and everything's fine." But maybe he's not out for a walk. So don't don't hesitate to do that because it's important. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Um workshop.
>> Thank you, mayor. Uh so the first topic for tonight, uh I included in your packet correspondence from Verizon FiOS. Um, so I just wanted to reiterate, I know I had sent an email, but for the public's perspective, um, Verizon FiOS
has sent us a notice, uh, that they filed an order with the New Jersey Board of Public Utilities to expand their service within Pompton Lakes. And by service, I mean cable, you know, cable TV, FIOS TV. Um, so we are in receipt of that filing with the state of New
Jersey. Uh, I did speak to Verizon. They do not have an estimated time frame for implementation of cable TV at this time. Um but they have told me that they've installed all the necessary infrastructure that is required for the
FiOS TV. Um I have included in your packet a uh service map for the cable TV. It is it is limited uh to certain sections of Pmpton Pmpton Lakes. It's not for all of Pompton Lakes. So I want uh the governing body to to understand
that and the map is included in your packets. Um furthermore uh FiOS has reached out and requested uh whether or not we have any intentions to uh publish a PEG channel, a local access television
channel on FiOS TV. So we're just looking for your consent tonight to submit for that. Um there there may be some uh administrative and operational costs in doing that with our uh TV consultants and our technicians. Uh so
you know I think we're looking for direction on the PEG channel tonight. >> Why don't you explain what a PEG channel is? >> It's our channel 77. So in my experience I think Verizon's channel 1125 or something. Um it's in Oakland, it's in Wayne. It's in other communities. So,
we're looking to just expand our uh providing to our residents on TV and, you know, give everyone uh fair access to watch our meetings and our events and our bulletins. Um, so we are just looking for direction tonight on if
that's desired of the governing body. I >> I'll speak for myself, then I'll ask the rest of the council. I don't see any issue as long as it's not a charge to us that we're paying more money for it. >> Yeah. No, there there would not be an extra charge. there just might be some implementation charges from our technicians, you know, because they might have to set up some infrastructure
for that. >> Um, and then on top of that, uh, FiOS is also asking, uh, they'll provide us, uh, they'll provide us a few free, but also want to know, uh, for paid, uh, cable
boxes for any of our burrow facilities within the service map. Um, which is not many. Um, so just think about that. Let me know if anything comes to mind. Um, but again, just looking for direction tonight on the Peg channel. >> Any concerns, questions about Oh, getting a free channel.
>> Well, we get it free now, correct? >> We on cable vision. >> Cable vision, >> but this is through FiOS. This is be through Verizon. So, we'd have it too. We'd have both. >> So, we would have that's >> right. We'd have two. >> One channel 77 and one channel 13 >> if it goes through. Yes. Yes. >> Oh, okay.
>> All right. Okay. Uh just I mean because that you bring up a very good point and maybe the chief should have talked about this. Verizon is out knocking on doors uh to um sell their product and they're knocking on doors late and and the ordinance does read that they're allowed to knock at 8:30 in the night. I get a
lot of calls from people very nervous about someone knocking on their door at 8:30 in the pitch dark and I hate to have to tell them that that's okay. Um so just keep that in mind. If you talk to residents, especially the the the seniors in town, they're not used to people knocking on the doors at 8:30
trying to sell something. Um, so I and I know the chief, we've talked about it a little bit. I there's not much we can do unless we change the ordinance, right? >> Well, can we change the ordinance? >> We we can we can. So that's something we'll talk about, but I mean to this moment at the second, there's nothing we can do about it. But yes, I agree. >> Summertime. That's all right. >> Yes.
>> But not in the winter. >> Yes, I agree. >> At this time, they don't have a license to solicit. >> Well, they had one, right? because I he showed me one. >> Not from the town. >> Well, that's a whole different ball game then >> because I asked, you know, cuz I'm, you
know, not many people know to ask for license. I did ask when they came to my house and he did show me something on a card. I believed it was real, but uh could we look into that, Chief? >> Yeah. I thought that there was uh some type of and I could be totally wrong, but I thought since there were utility >> Yeah. >> and there's soliciting for the utility
is different than a regular solic. >> Can we look into that, Mike? >> Yeah. Okay, let's look into that because if that's the case, then I would stop them right now until they they do it and I would set the hours if we get I would try to set the hours. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Can we get that response um pretty
quickly and an email? >> Oh, Michael reach out and he'll send an email. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. Uh thank you. And then the second topic for tonight, I just wanted to give uh the officer in charge just a quick two minutes to provide an update on what
the ebike town hall is and just a quick overview of what the department's looking to do. >> Yes. So, myself and uh Lieutenant Kaki, Lieutenant Kafati, Lieutenant Rufo will be planning on uh holding a town hall.
It's going to be over at the Carnival Center. We already set up the logistics with that with them, so we're good to go there. Um Lieutenant Kapaki built out a um a PowerPoint presentation, and the PowerPoint presentation is going to, you
know, and we're going to Let me back up for a minute. We're going to be inviting, you know, we want uh parents uh to come to this presentation. If they want to bring their children, more than welcome to bring their children, but we're we're basically going to be providing an overview of uh scooters,
ebikes. Um and it's going to be a safety presentation. Um we really wanted to um you know, bring home uh you know, what our current bicycle safety laws are. Um we wanted to inform
them about the ebike classifications and the andor requirements. Um we wanted to bring up some uh you know we wanted to get community involvement. You so we know we want to know what the parents uh considerations are. We want to hear some feedback from some parents, answer some
questions there and then um go over any questions that they that they do have. So a lot of a lot of this stuff is already in place. um because it's looked at class one two are looked at as bicycles already. So standard things if
they're under uh seven under 18 you're supposed to be wearing bike helmet. Um things of that nature. Also, there's there's uh I don't want to get too far ahead of myself with this in the presentation, but there's like certain things that people don't realize where you have these bicycles that present
like an ebike, but what what they're doing is buying these pedal kits that makes them appear that they have a pedal and they're not an ebike. They're actually a motorized bike that DMV refuses to register uh that insurance
companies refuse to ensure and they go well above uh 40 mph, 50 mph on some of these on some of these bikes. Um and you know, my officer could be driving past, you guys could be driving past and you wouldn't even realize that it's not any
bike because it looks just like one. >> Um so we wanted to give that information to the parents. Um, same thing with scooters. Some of these scooters, uh, you know, they go up to 20, 30 miles per hour on a scooter. Um, I'm sure we've
all seen it, but you know, you got little kids driving around on these things with, you know, no safety equipment, uh, no helmet, and, you know, um, you can get hurt. you know, we just had a, you know, a recent accident
recently where um a juvenile was involved in an accident um and got hurt. And you know, we want to avoid that as much as we can. Hopefully by giving uh parents and community and kids this information. Um it'll uh have everybody
make better choices. Um we also plan on expanding some of this with my uh school resource officer so that he can put presentations on in the school. Um, I've talked to uh the superintendent Dr. Emoroso about this so he knows we're we're uh we're getting ready to uh to
gear up and put this out. Um so we look forward to putting the presentation on and we welcome any questions from the community. Uh hopefully hopefully we'll get uh big community involvement. Um you know, so it's a it's a hot topic. I know Wayne just put out uh a huge uh
ordinance in regard to this. I don't know if they released to the public yet, but they did. Um but yeah, so um there's some things that after this we can all sit down and have a round table and talk about how we're going to approach it too if the governing body wanted to address
ordinances. >> So I I think some of it's going to come I think the state after talking to some representatives from the state, they're also going to take this on and and put in some state guidelines on this because that's where it has to come from the state guidelines because every town's going to have different things and it's going to be very difficult to work with.
So hopefully they can put that together quickly because um you know it's an issue. It's an issue in every town, not just in our town. And and I I don't know if he he went over it quickly. You know, on Halloween Day, we had a very serious accident with a 12-year-old boy on a scooter and didn't have a helmet on and
it was a tough accident. It was bad. They airlifted out. So, you know, this is serious stuff we're talking about, especially with children and driving. So, I think we should all make an attempt to get to the to the uh meeting, tell all the public to get out to that and support it, especially kid people who have parents. The other side that
you're talking about, these illegal bikes, they're going to that's a whole state thing. I don't, you know, we I don't know how we can figure that out if they're real or not. >> Yeah, it's going to be tough is, you know, it's it's about I I think it's going to be more about education, educating my officers so they can identify these bikes. Um because if we
see somebody on it, um you know, we're going to we're going to impound the vehicle if they're on the roadway and then they're not going to get it back and they're going to get unfortunately they might get summones as well. We just can't can't allow those bikes those type of bikes on the on the roadway anymore.
>> Any questions about >> what date was that again? >> When is I'll put out the dates uh tomorrow and you know I need to discuss some some things with the borrow administrator and >> we were he was going to try to do it next week but we're all gone for the week. So, uh, >> yeah, I forgot about the I forgot about the the meeting.
>> So, but I got new dates. I I'll go over them tomorrow, then I'll send them out. >> Yeah, it'll be a couple. So, so I think two and uh send them out to you guys. >> Great. Thanks. >> Thank you. >> Is that what you had on it? >> Okay, >> that's it. >> Okay. Can I have a motion to open the meeting for public comments?
>> Motion. Council, Councilman Hinton. All in favor? I >> against. Anyone from the public like to address? Please step up. Paul Bulby 120 Roma. Now, two things. One, uh, with regard to FiOS, um, I know there's a lot of talk about optimum
optimum and how good or bad it is, how expensive it is. I read my current bill tonight and as of January 1st, my bill is going to go up about 20 to $25 depending on my service. So, I don't know if everybody's looking closely at their bill, but my bill with my internet
phone and uh the whole package runs me close to $400 and now it's going to go up 20 $25. So, >> crazy might be an op an option. Just look into it. The other question I have is ordinance 2528 uh repealed um an
ordinance regarding throwing or depositing litter from vehicles. What was that and what's going to happen with it? >> Yeah, go ahead if you want. >> It was repealed because the uh state has a statute on it and we may they they
preempt that area. So, um it it remains in place. It's just enforceable as a state statute rather than a local ordinance. >> Okay. Anybody else from the public? Please step up. I see a hand. Oh, wow. evangelist the ring court excuse me on
that subject a um I was always under the understanding if you wrote on a burough ordinance the money came to the the fine came to the municipality and if you wrote on a state statute the money goes the bulk of the money goes to the state so just to follow up on what Paul brought up why
wouldn't we write litter tickets on a burough summons to keep that money in town rather than give it to the state >> because the the the the state has preempter power on this and so if they have a stat statute in effect we cannot
um undercut them with an ordinance. It's not enforceable by our by our police department. >> Well, aren't there a lot of other statutes that mirror mirror our uh >> our in terms of >> where we would prefer to write on a bur ordinance instead of a statute? We can't
anymore if there's a preemptive you have to >> pretty much across the orre across the border on a select one. >> Yeah. >> All right. Uh number two on the subject of the railroad what I would suggest because that piques my interest because I remember when Hills was built that
railroad crossing Gear Miller services just that private condominium complex. Do they pay for the maintenance fee? Because we're not paying for maintenance fee on that crossing. So my question is and that was built in the 70s. So are they paying for that?
>> We have to answer. >> And then the other one is the the neighboring towns when you go up the road to Oakland to Edison Avenue, there's some private crossings on that on that roadway as well and who pays the maintenance fee on that. So that would
be my question. I think I remember as a young kid that Skylar Rab was not broken through. All right. Barber Drive went down, but there was no connection there and at some point they did put that crossing in. So maybe that was an agreement they made at that time, you know, that the town would pick up that
maintenance fee, but uh it does seem exorbitant and uh at some point you would hope it would, you know, diminish. Thank you. >> Thank you. Anyone else with the public like to address? >> Seeing no one, can I have a motion to close the public session? >> Motion.
>> Councilman Quinn, Councilman Hinton. All in favor? I >> against >> uh yeah I agree with you uh Mr. Bley. Yes that you know if you can better deal somewhere else let's go there you know why pay more money if we get the same deal for the same um Al agree with you
and I agree with everything we're saying but my guess is and of course none of us were there when they made this deal. It was probably something we wanted to do on something and they said well you we'll do this but then you got to pay the maintenance on this and at the time they didn't think about the future. they just said, "Okay, let's do it."
>> But now we're half million dollars in 40 years later. So, it's something the attorney will look at. >> Um, but you know, it seems to me that if we fought it once, unless we come up with a new idea, >> we're going to lose again. So, but you don't know. So, we could try. So, I I I agree. I And he's talking about there's
a bunch of private, you know, the deals they made there. Who knows? We wouldn't know the answers to those, right? Those wouldn't be public to us. Well, I mean, if there's a developers agreement under which uh Winding Hills paid, but I I take it Winding Hills is not paying. So, I don't think that's part of any
development agreement. Developers agreement. >> Well, this was Yeah. A long time ago. >> Okay. Yeah. So, >> okay. >> We find out what's included in the maintenance. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we get a breakdown >> real quick. is one very important part
that that equipment at Pearson Miller Drive was just updated two years ago. As a matter of fact, we had a construction meeting there. Lieutenant Kaka was there Oakland police had a representative there from the traffic bureau and we met with a lady from the state of New Jersey regarding the upgrade of the crossing
signalization at that intersection. So that says to me that the state might be paying for that as well. So it's another avenue to check. >> Yeah, we can look at that. So I'll have Mike if we could check that >> just to see. >> I just have one comment if I may uh on this ordinance question. Uh it's
addressed in the packet but this specific ordinance is under title 39 which is traffic code. Uh which uh has its own preeemption provision which this allows municipal ordinances which cover the same offenses as a state ordinance.
Uh just wanted to note though there are other sections of the burough code that are not considered preemptive under title 39 for the same or similar offense as littering that the police department can write as an ordinance ticket. So we still have the ability to issue
littering as a burrow ordinance just not under this specific uh a different chapter of the code. >> Right. Not from a vehicle, right? >> Not from the vehicle. Is that what we're saying? Not from the vehicle, Mike. Is that what we're saying? Not with >> uh that's not my understanding. We have
>> what what if it's an ebike >> underneath? >> Yeah, we have another ordinance uh burough code chapter 8-4.2. No person shall throw or deposit or permit any agent or employee uh to throw or deposit litter. And then we have another section that says no no person
shall put deposit or throw any litter upon the private or public property uh etc. So these are >> that we can do. It's it's throwing it from a car. That's what's covered by title 39 and that's the only part that's been preempted. >> Good. >> Thank you. So,
>> okay. It's a little wacky if you ask me, but all right. >> Yeah. >> So, that's from any motorized vehicle, >> a car or motorcycle. >> I Yeah, I believe so. >> Okay. Uh >> for a motorcycle. >> Well, approve the Ford. Anybody approve of the four? I know you do.
>> Oh, my turn now. >> Yes. >> Thank you. Um just a couple of topics I want to bring up for discussion. Um recently we just had a forest health survey done and um for the entire town and the regeneration of trees was
terrible according to the report from the forest health survey. Um, also I was doing my inspections of the trees I planted through the years for tree guards and the deer are just tearing
these trees up. So I was um putting new tree guards on, repairing tree guards that were on um and I tal touched base with uh Councilwoman Kent because she does shade tree and she does DPW. We and we've been talking and we're working on
it. uh we need to get a coordination between DPW and the trees. Now the shade tree volunteers just like the trail committee volunteers are volunteers um and they do a great job. Um talking
to Mrs. Venon on the trail committee um we put in the Mars Canal Greenway Trail. Um I from people I talked to I didn't think that you were in favor of it, Mr. Mayor, at the time. Um but the council did pass it and it was installed. Now
the agreement at the time was the DPW was not going to maintain it. Um it's a part of the infrastructure of our town. We invite people to come to the town to walk the Morris Canal Greenway Trail. The trail committee is
doing the best they can. Uh Mr. Bulby has worked with the trail committee plenty of times. Um, we have a downed tree now that's probably 18 to 20 inches in diameter across the trail near Lincoln. Uh, asking Mr. Bulby to come with a
chainsaw. That's not really his job. Uh, whereas if we had the DPW to come with the bucket loader, they could just grab the tree, pick it up, and move it over. So, we have to work together with the Shade Tree Commission and the DPW and the Trail Committee.
>> But you're forgetting one part of that. They don't have the manpower to do it. And that's why the deal is made that way because when we start adding more trails and start adding more hiking areas, it needs more manpower to take care of that. And the DPW said, either you're going to hire us more guys to take care of that or we can't do it. That's where
it came from. >> Then you just answered the question. We need to hire more guys down because we can't have it in the condition inviting the public that you can't even walk down it. The benches that were put in at great expense. You can't even sit in
them. There's weeds all over them. Um the trees are not >> We're not going to hire more manpower just to take care of trails because it's a very expensive proposition when you take when you take in pensions and healthcare and costs. It's a big big proposition we're talking about. You
know, we're talking about >> taking care of some grass around a branch, but that could cost us 100 grand a year. >> You're installing a new baseball field down at Joe Grillil Field. We're going to plant a 100 trees there. They're going to need maintenance. You don't
have the manpower now. How are you going to have the manpower to take care of those hundred new trees? Mr. >> The same way we've done it in the past. The volunteers take care of it. >> We're running out of volunteers. >> Well, baseball will take care of their fields. Football takes care of their fields. We will
>> put it in infrastructure in the town, not on the the trees in the parks. Katy Cole Park. They're getting torn up by the deer. You need to have the DPW work along with Sha Tree. Mrs. Kent, Councilwoman Kent is going to work to
try to coordinate that, >> right? And that's what we'll try. We'll try to help. We're not saying we're not, but we can only do what we the manpower we have. Now, whatever happens with more manpower that we might get in the future with some other deals might help with that. Um, but right now, as it stands, that's what I don't know if you were on the council when we made the deal or
not, but that was the deal that was made. >> I was not on the council. That was the deal that was >> I was at the podium. >> But if that was the deal that was voted on by the council, >> so you're asking to change something that was already voted on >> and we can do that. >> This council can change that.
>> Well, yeah, we'd have to It would be a different They can't just change. >> But what I'm saying is you have a piece of infrastructure in your town that you're inviting the public to use and it's becoming dangerous because it's not maintained. >> Well, here's a perfect example. We've had a conversation with Morris where the canal the trail has fallen into the
river. I know >> and we can't fix that. And our engineers told us and the state, by the way, told us to close the trail. >> They said, "That's what you need to do is close the trail. >> Don't fix it. Close the trail." >> She's shaking her head already. >> That was I I was there. I was there and
it was the most unacceptable answer I got from an estate official. >> Well, we just need a little more coordination. And I have no problem. >> Shade tree. I mean, we plant 30 to 50 trees a year. >> Yeah, that's our problem. And the volunteers cannot maintain all those people. >> I understand. But when we put the trail
committee together, again, you weren't part of that. There was long discussions on that. And that's why we put the trail committee knowing we were not going to end up having our DPW do it for that reason. There was very long discussions with that council at that time and the board and board involved accepting that.
>> Well, we now have a landscape supervisor and this is what he does. >> It's worth three visit now. >> It's worth revisit. We can we can revisit it, but I I we can revisit it. It's just not going to happen. >> Now, we're tearing another house down, which I'm opposed to. But you said we voted for.
>> I don't think I voted for him. >> You did? >> No, I didn't. Did he? >> There's probably a no there if Liz looked back there on my part. But anyway, that's another lot that DPW has to maintain. And we're looking to tear down another house, another lot. They have over 47 lots now that
>> No, I I hear you. I hear you. >> So, we have to do something in the future. But you can't talk out both sides. You can't say that and then say we got to control our taxes because that will increase our taxes. So that's what you got to make decide on. We can't say we're going to do this, but then let's
hire five more guys because then it's going to cost more money. >> Well, we have to maintain the town and we have to maintain the town respectfully for the resident. >> I might just add maybe we'll set up a meeting. We'll try to get some cooperation from the department. >> We'll try I'm not against the cooperation.
>> We'll hash it out together. Yeah, we'll try to talk. Yes. >> Yes, >> that's what we'll do. Yes. >> Um, also just one other thing I just wanted to mention. I still read the trends, public notices in the back. Uh, town of Ringwood. Uh, I'm not on the
finance committee, so I do not have a chance to talk about it, but I was looking at the mayor and councils from 22, 23, and 24. No increase in salaries. So, I'm opposed to a 2% increase on our salaries.
So, uh I would just like to bring that up and bring it up to the finance committee. >> It'll be a vote by council. >> It'll be a vote by council. >> Yes, it will. >> It'll be a vote by council this year or next year. >> When we bring it up after that, it will be a vote, but at the end, you at any time can give up your salary at any time
you want. There's 528 municipalities in the town. You picked one. So, you know, that doesn't speak for every town that's going on. If anybody here wants to give up their salary, they are more than welcome to do. >> Well, not give up the salary. Give up the income >> or give up their rate. They can do that. You can easily do >> I want to give up mine. >> That's very nice of you. You can do
>> I want to award it to the administrator for the job that he's doing. >> I'm okay with that, too. >> It's very generous. That's seven. That's seven cents a >> Um Okay. Anything else? >> Um yeah, seven cents. It's 44 cents.
>> Sorry. 44 cents >> like that. >> 88 cents in Europe. ad that I don't think you need that with your retirement. >> 88. >> No, that's all. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any other favor of the floor? >> Okay. Motion to adjourn and close
session. >> Motion. >> Councilman Bennett, do I hear a second? >> Second. >> Councilman Quinn, all in favor? >> Against. Thank Oh, yes. And don't forget we have um December 6th, the holiday uh stroll. December 6th holiday stroll. 5:30 Christmas tree lighting at the
library. Toys for Tots. >> And Toys for Tots. Yes, I think we talked about that one, right? >> Not yet. We have a hearing coming up, >> but it's next month. >> Yeah. Affordable housing litigation. >> Well, okay. In close session, we
discussed uh attorneys client privilege and affordable housing updates uh litigation. Uh motion to motion. >> Second. >> Anyone? Councilman Hinton. All in favor? >> Yes. >> Thank you. Okay.