##VIDEO ID:HKbjK03qxWo## yes yes we're on following is the agenda for the uh reord meeting uh for 2025 b l planning board which the meeting is to be held Municipal Building 25 LX Avenue on Tuesday Janu uh January 16th beginning at 7:30 formal ADV notice as required has been approved for this meeting 48 hours in advance of today giving the time date location and an extent known time of the agenda of the meeting such notice has been stated and posted on the BT and board outside the office of CLK reserve for this other SAR announcements Prov Trends newspaper designated by the bural council to receive such notices and filed with the please stand for United States of America to the for it stands one nation God indivisible liy and justice for all okay I'd like to uh make a nomination for uh Mike Simone to be the chair of the second second you take a this I guess mayor and Paul okay do I I do Mr Simone oh this should have been done this way did you have to do your o yeah Mike can you just hold off on that for please cuz we got we've got four people swear in and then we should really have a roll call you want to swear them in first yeah if they're going to be voting on the other if they voting yeah and then there should be a roll call after their saring so if we could move move uh do the swearing in and then the roll call right so right now I'm only swearing in Tim and Paul because here y go right all right please stand yeah CL stand Rae and repeat after me I State your names I CH to solemly swear to solemly swear that I'll support the Constitution of the United States that will support the Constitution of the United States and the constitution of the state of New Jersey of state of New Jersey I will bear true faith and Allegiance I will bear true faith and aliance to the same to the same and to the governments established and to the government's establish in this United States in the United States and in this state this under the authority of the people under the authority of the people I will Faithfully I will Faithfully partially and partially and justly and just perform all the duties of perform all the duties of planning board member board member according to the best of my ability best of my ability so help me gu so help me gu thank you gentem for your time and effort thank you thank you that paperwork and you give it to me so I could make a copy and give it to please I guess you're going to do a roll call no now we do a point of chair yeah right well I think all the things got moved do now all SW you have the members I would do the roll call roll call first and then y you got it all right Mr Simone here Mr tro here uh Mr AO here M Dr pendexter here Mr Balby here Mr heating is absent tonight mayor Sarah here uh councilwoman kilberg here welcome um Mr uh oh bzma is absent and that is all we have no Engineers tonight you say Paul you see yes okay yes yeah here and Andy Brewer hello all like I'd like to make a nomination to make Mike Simone the chair of the planning board have a second second fa I I Against okay thank you mayor thank you gent it's all yours uh appointments for in approvals appointment of Vice chair disappointed that rich couldn't be with us we he was here for a really really long time and I from what I understand he's basically ready to move down by the end of this month so we'll be down in North Carolina uh with that said the next most senior person on the board is Brian Otto so I'd like to recommend that we if Brian is willing unless someone else prefers it we would have Brian become the vice chair uh if someone would make a motion Brian are you okay with that I'll make a motion motion I'll second it Motion in a second all in favor I I any opposed appointment of the board secretary anyone have a preference I I will motion for Carline if you sarrow I'll do it for $100 streap I'll still go with car I'll pay you [Music] twice a second for that please second all in favor I any opposed uh board attorney thank you so much um you have a heartbeat I'm here we have a recommendation for mariz Falcon Andy Brewer is the individual but we appoint the firm right so it would be Mar Falcon second any any any all in favor you first and second right okay so uh TR the second mik okay okay under Engineers the town received uh qualifications from several firms um there's a list of one two three four five six eight eight people here uh I don't have a problem with continuing with cers it just depends on what you all want to do um does any want to make a a motion can we hear the other firms uh Suburban consultant schan weed house and Vince Beck Meyer Earth First Bright View Naran and harbor Consultants I'm not familiar with most of them but I'll make a motion for callers motion for cers we have a second I'll second that second by Bill I'll in favor of callers engineering continuing hi hi hi any opposed uh the same thing with board planner we have um just uh cers under that one so I need a recommendation for coler's engineering and design for board planner I'll recommend them for the board planner and second second okay Motion in second okay uh appointment of sorry fa oh sorry vote any any against no okay okay uh appointment of open space committee representative the planting Board gets a non- quorum type member for the open space committee we would like to have someone that would be willing to uh attend those meetings Thursdays right um does anyone wish to be the open space committee representative from the planning board so just let me fill it in you do have one person Tim who's there already so he really can't be here but that person whoever if it is going to be somebody does get a vote on on the open space just doesn't count against the quum just doesn't count C the Corum right anyone all right we'll try next month to see if we get somebody to uh to do that can you just add that to the agenda for next month since we'll have everybody here then uh legal newspaper still the trends uh on page two or page three is there a page one below the fold on one all right can I have a motion for Suburban trends for legal newspaper motion second that second okay Paul and Tim okay all in favor I any opposed Department approval of alternate legal newspaper the record right I think it's the Bergen Record the trends I mean um The Herald news I thought oh Harold Harold News record record but I just heard that the uh Harold News was going out something I just heard I don't know if it's true but for now that's we can point point the Harold and then it revisit it revisit revisit it so for now approval of the legal newspaper we've got and Alternate legal newspaper would be the Herold on a motion please so moveed second second all in favor second I'm sorry first any opposed okay the last item is the agenda dates um K put a list here for the 12 me 12 months there's really no problem with them in general except the November 18th meeting is the week of the league of municipalities and we may run into an issue with that um so yeah you I you just won't have the representation from here and maybe Mr Brewer speak so the the plan and then this our office could cover it if you want to be so that I have someone that can do it that's not a problem I'd prefer not to move it at this time I'd rather see how things go and if we don't know what'll be on the agenda and we don't know whether uh we'll have enough people but if we do I'd like to continue because finding another day may be a conflict with either another board Bo or another uh event here in town and then K and I were talking about it and then you have like Thanksgiving you you're December prior the week prior is V uh is um election day so we're closed and the week after is Veterans Day or two weeks before and then one week before so the Tuesdays are really not good so I just with the acknowledgement of the board that this may be a meeting that gets moved the rest of them seem to be okay if you're all okay with that then um I would like to get a motion to approve the appoint the um the dates as listed on the memo at 7:30 7:30 p.m. I'll make that motion Tim Tim I'll I'll second the motion that all in favor I any opposed okay uh that should be for adjournment so you approved the minutes from last month no that's regular meeting we got to call a regular meeting for that okay got yeah this is that one of those weird combo meetings Okay so this would conclude the reorganization meeting I need a motion in a second to adjourn did you open it for public commented yeah everyone that's that's I'll make the motion close TR second I'll second okay that was Tim and Joker okay hold on let me write down the time it is hold on okay now we'll hit the regular meeting roll poll please 7:46 yeah okay we're doing it this way okay so regular meeting starting at 7:47 all right uh Mr Simone here Mr tro here Mr here Dr pendexter here Mr Balby here Mr keing is absent uh mayor Sarah here councilwoman kilberg here uh Mr bootsman H bootsman sorry is absent and we have no Engineers tonight and dandy Brewer okay now we'll do the minutes from the December 17 2024 meeting did everyone have a chance to review them and if so what is your pleasure is there a boook I'll make a motion okay second second oh there's no mistakes the mayor and our new Vice chairman Mr AO I was looking at like there was a a mistake any comments or corrections I just like tell me yeah so I can fix it no comments and Corrections therefore our U motion to approve um roll call please I'm sorry okay Mr Simone yes um Mr tro yes Mr Otto I have to switch them around sorry yes uh Dr pendexter president president uh Mr bulby yes uh Mr keing is absent uh mayor Sarah yes um councilman kilberg is present and okay that's it okay the rest of the information is just um correspondence we have correspondents from uh Liz branis about appointments approved by the mayor and Council another one on Council Le's own approved by the mayor and Council and the third one uh for the municipal clerk regarding resolution 2501 uh there are no applications there are no resolutions there is no conceptual tonight there is no new and unfinished business is there anyone from the public that would like to be called upon to talk seeing none close that um couple comments that I'd like to make and I won't drag it on but I want to first of all thank you for the reappointment as chair and secondly to thank you all for doing the fine job that you do I will say it every year the board is only as good as the members on the board as a whole and we're are thankful and I'm personally thankful of having such a great board every year they do a wonderful job the attendance is excellent uh we really never had to postpone a hearing on our part It's always been because of the applicant so for all of those reasons um I thank you all for for being who you are and doing the best you can for Pompton Lakes also want to thank k for doing an excellent job for uh our board secretary there's a lot that goes on in her world and you always seem to manage to kept everything in in track and we have all of our stuff that we need at our meeting so thank you for that um Mr Brewer thank you for your guidance and wisdom and uh I'll say the same to coler's engineering for their guidance and wisdom the professionals give us the chance to be the better board that we are also and I wish you all a Happy New Year is there anything from the mayor or the council liazon thank you by the way for being our Council liazon we look forward to seeing you we look for look forward to seeing you at our meetings so just an update from the planner who met with the council so on last two weeks ago uh one to discuss the project 61q which is the op station they gave it a straw pole approval right now until they come back with the actual agreements what you'll vote on but more importantly they spoke she came to speak about the uh uh master plan that we talked about getting it all under one umbrella and kind of overseeing it she's going to start putting together a committee uh in the next month or two to do that there'll be some members from the planning board some members from the council um some from the office and together we're going to work on on you know tightening all that up a little bit uh what she was kind of mentioning or recommending is by talking to certain individuals and people she's understanding that there wants to be some consistency in in the way things are built downtown so that we could fit under the agreement she didn't think we were going to really talk about height and and and the variances that we we mentioned in the past but that's something still on the table if that's want to be talked about but it's more to keep a consistency as we move forward in all the Redevelopment so you know even though we started this 10 years ago we now 10 years later we'd like everything to look the same as we move forward not cookie cutter same but in the same premise of what we want to do so you know I know this board had asked to do that she had thought that that was a good suggestion to do so we will be and we're putting money aside to do it so we will be doing that yeah and that's going to tie in with uh the updated Andor replacement of the master plan I I don't know if it's going to tie in but yes that we're looking at that too I mean she's going to definitely do this piece for us she's going to determine what we have to do with the rest that might not happen this year because the cost okay what is now that's the Redevelopment area that that you just the Redevelopment right so I'm trying to we we did meet the the master plan committee met which we're going to need another member for because we're it's just John and myself now so um we are going to need that third member but um we did meet and we were talking one of the things that we discussed and I know we discussed this with the planner last year when when we met with her we're trying to figure out the the obviously the most economical path is to do a reexamination um but now once we're going to you know we've had we've got the master plan we've got the master plan reexamination from 10 years ago you know do we want to do another reexamination or do we want to do another whole plan the reason for that is if somebody comes to town with some project that they want to do to make sure that it fits into the master plan I understand it's their their due diligence to do but we've got a master plan and we've got one reexamination that essentially changes the conditions of the master plan then we're going to have re-examination number two which changes the conditions of re examination number one and the master plan it just it just muddies the water and cloudies things up um so I guess she is leaning I think towards a re a re of doing a the M plan over again she's looking to get to the numbers right now to see what cost and then we'll have to sit down and it's not a cheap project to do it's expensive no I know she threw out some numbers when we met with her the first time and it was you know 25,000 versus 150,000 it's a big difference uh so I think the last I talked to Michael but don't hold me to this we were going to try to put it off for a year and then do a whole plan maybe next year we don't have to do it until 27 so but it will take a whole year to do it okay yeah that's the only thing is you know you between what we have to do and then it goes back and forth between us and the council you know it doesn't get done too quickly but that's that was my initial uh thought that we would probably end up doing a full one but we'll work it out with her and with the town and you know and there is I because I've spoken to the building department too there is some confusion just what Mr Mr TR was saying some people have the older information compared to the newer information then they come forward with that and then they have to explain That's the older information then they have to go back and they have to come back with the newer it would probably be better if we did have a new updated thing it's just I don't know you know we got to find the money for it that's well I think we'll see how it goes but that that was that was the expectation and next month when we have more people here I'll see if who wants to be the third person on the board um or I can actually offer that tonight if one of you you know want to be the third person on the um master plan committee it's up to you guys does anybody want to sit with that let everybody jump [Laughter] in um it might not be a bad idea to bring in one of the other guys and kind of let them get it and know you know they'll understand what our what our purpose is here too it'll help them here mhm that's fine we can wait till next month and just to follow up uh 61 AQ eventually is going to come to you guys you know for approval then it's going to go back to us so that's the process what we'll be ready when what's being thought about and and I was actually going to ask this before uh but what are other things that are sort of in the Horizon that are coming down so we'll start with 61q has an agreement with the Redevelopment Agency for between 17 and 21 units depending if they get the extra parking they're buying parking from the Housing Authority as long as the county approves that which I think was last week's meeting which I think they did approve then it would be the higher number if it's not it will be the lower number of 17 uh they have their own parking onsite building set back you know towards the back of the building that's the gas station gas station right G yeah yeah some people might not know what you're talking about I've been here I've been here a while and then separate from that there's really nothing in the Horizon there's the Smith project that's been coming back and forth for the last five six years that's the where the ice cream station is 125 Washington building which one 125 Washington building well the Washington building has been approved and done been done but we still have to the the Redevelopment agreement has to be approved and signed they for which one for the Washington building that was in principle we put it together I thought they weren't using them they're not using a pilot they still need a Redevelopment agreement allowing planning board so that's ready to go but we you know called off that Redevelopment meeting so that's right was going be the first week of February February and then the project you know he keeps saying he's going to come back he might U sooner than later um you know there's still a lot of talk of what how that's going to be done he's still looking for a full easement through the ponall he's looking for a larger building doesn't really have enough parking figured out yet so he he's has some things he has to work out on that and besides that there's really been no more talk of anything else going on right now I mean the CGM building is in the process of being built from the back right now the biggest hold up for that project right now is he's having a problem getting the elevator which he doesn't need now but it's a hold out to get the elevator for but he's doing consent work in the back and he's starting to do what he has back some somebody said there steel going up I haven't been Ste okay and then these uh U Meridian project he's going to start his internal he started I think his internal work already right I think so yeah started so you know again it seems to be U um issues of getting some stuff certain types of materials that slowing them down a little bit I I've heard from many develop different developers elevator seem to be a big one right now they can't really get elevators so that's a problem Meridian has the elevators by way so at this point hope so that's really it unless somebody else has any other questions about anything health what's the status on 735 the building down near the Falls uh I spoke to S last week about that they um are having remember their Engineers have to look at it and verify that they're still in that process it slowed down a little bit he had problems getting the engineers over the holidays that's supposed to be picking up but that's also been a seven-year project I was going to say we don't even slow he a get much slower than he's FL I understood but so right now there's still no uh approval of anything that with that all it's not approved yet it hasn't well no it's gotten the okay the blessing from you guys and the blessing from Redevelopment to move forward and then it's on their Engineers to say it's good and done right certified yeah so in other words right now aside from the wall issue um he has the approvals from here but yes but not the wall because he he built it without his inspection right so we're waiting for certification they just went build it and never called up and got inspection as they went War that's the big issue yeah so until they get that approved he can't really get any kind of a CO so well I don't even know to be honest M know are they finished with all their internal work I don't even know that yeah I don't know probably not cuz from what I when I drive by some of these uh places I I look inside or I look around to see what's going on and they had a couple of electrical trucks you know like electricians working so they're probably doing something on the inside but at least I hope they're okay with it I don't know you know it's anything else I can mention is in the old Hut behind Max has been torn down um and we're making a park but we ran into a problem we flattened it we did everything great everybody just started parking over there like an extra parking lot for backs so now we're going to have to fence it in with some split rail fencing on the three sides so people don't park there and then that project will be done well you just said you wanted to make a park didn't you so people are taking it literally um you mentioned or or you mentioned the the hambur turnpike building one of the things that was discussed when we were talking when we were at the the re-exam meeting when we were going through some of the zoning there is in the downtown Corridor which that's part of the you know the downtown Redevelopment Zone a or whatever Gateway District the Gateway District that's right in the Gateway District it's specifically spelled out in I think the reexamination of the master plan if not the master plan that there is to be no no drive through type businesses that building has a drive-thru on the side of it yeah and they kept that grandfather grandfather yeah that was a big deal at the hearing you know they wanted to keep it because it was used to be Bel tone or something it was like a payment window or something like that they a pharmacy they kept it yeah they kept it that was big issue specifically to keep them grandfathered they didn't know they use it but they didn't want to completely abandon it which is if you take it and boarded it up then you can never do it again if you leave it kind of looking like it then you hav't abandon it you still may have the right so you would using it but that was I just we we were questioning whether or not it was grandfather to yeah remember I said I was going to look see if it was in the thing the resolution and just for your note we are honoring Andy sste tomorrow at our council meeting for all the time and energy he's put in through this board and through Redevelopment that's tomorrow night tomorrow meeting he was the board president for the school for many years so he's been involved for many many years here yeah he was on the planning board from I would say the early 90s 80s and he yeah you researched oh cuz I know he came on not too long after I did and he was on after I you know left for the council and he was still on yeah so you know he he's got a lot of longevity there as did richar on school board too we we should um do a uh a letter of thank you to Rich by the way um do you have something that like yeah reach out to Liz that we have some stuff you can probably just something you know formal to say you know thank you for your for Rich for Rich yeah we used to do something of a certificate but we have that that's true I I just I think something would be appropriate considering we gave him one we went to Florida and he came back he did he went to Florida we did when he went to Florida when he florid on the bottom put this is your last one yeah it's the second one two of two it is two of two you're done went to Florida that was I remember that 10 15 years ago oh yeah he went to Florida and he was down there for two or three years and he came back and somebody signed him up again somebody signed him up again that's okay uh anything else is anybody other any other questions for the mayor or our Council something Lisa do you have anything you'd like to add no not this time um okay what about um Michael wanted somebody from the planning board to be on that committee with Kristen Russell committee with what for the um Michael wanted one a board member from the planning board one from the board of adjustment and one for redevelopment to be on that committee that that we haven't put the we haven't put the even the committee together yet oh um because we're still looking for funding so been now I yeah yeah he just said to just mention is if somebody was interested that he just wanted to know it for the next meeting I was like all right I'll ask yeah that's you know yeah we're going to like I said we're going to need one I I was going to recommend two from the fighting board actually uh just because important part of what you guys are doing you get to just put it uh as a note for next month please sure and what's that for the committee it's to do it's it's to do a review of the I've been going since 6:30 so I'm tired it's like the master plan review but for the Redevelopment area okay yeah like a design standard kind of we all good and if so I'll take a motion to adjourn motion to adjourn oh hold on Timothy uhuh second second second Paul whatever all in favor and we are adjourned thank you all [Music] all right huh