That's all she does. >> We're on that 234. >> The following is the reorg meeting of the popular zoning board of adjustment which is the New York session. This meeting will be held in Munis building
25 Lennox Avenue on Tuesday, January 27th, beginning at 8:00 p.m. A written advanced notice as required by NJSA has been provided of this meeting and at least 48 hours in advance uh in advance of today giving a time, date, and location and to the extent
known at the time the agenda of this meeting. Such notice states that formal action may or may not be taken. This meeting may be video recorded and will be broadcast for later viewing for the public. This notice was posted on the vulin board outside of the office of municipality for provided to the
suburban trends the newspaper designated by the council and plain board to receive such notices and filed with the bur. Please stand for the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands.
One nation under God, indivisibley and justice for all. >> Okay. With that, I'd like to swear to a couple people. Mark, please stand up. Um, Willie, you stand up. And Lynn, welcome.
Uh, raise your right hand and repeat. I state your names. >> I, Willie Hunt, >> do solemnly swear >> solemnly swear. >> I will support the Constitution of the United States. >> Support the Constitution of the United States >> and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey. >> Constitution of the State of New Jersey.
I will bear true faith and allegiance >> bear true faith and allegiance >> to the same >> to the same >> and to the governments established >> to the government established >> in the United States >> in the United States >> and in this state >> in this state >> under the authority of the people >> the authority of the people
>> I will faithfully >> I will faithfully >> impartially >> impartially >> and justly >> and justly >> perform all the duties of >> perform all the duties of >> zoning board of adjustment >> zoning board of adjustment >> according to the best of my ability >> best of my ability It's a helping guy. >> So help me God.
>> Thank you guys for your time and dedication. WELCOME TO >> OKAY, before we get to roll call, I just want to thank all you guys for putting the time and effort. You you do this board. You do a great job. You're very organized. You care about every project that comes up. So I thank you all for
putting the time and effort into what you do. With that, can I have a roll call, please? >> Yes. Mr. Hunt >> here. >> Mr. Bait >> here. >> Mr. Cos >> here. >> Miss Berntock >> here. >> Mr. Rowan >> here. >> Mr. Fagula >> here. >> Miss Hazelman >> here.
>> Mr. Devonte >> here. >> Mr. Klouse >> here. >> We have Mayor Sarah here. >> Uh, and Chris. Nope. Nikki Malotus here. >> Here. >> And Mr. Brewer >> here. >> Okay. >> Okay. And with that, can I have a make a
motion to appoint a chairperson? >> I'll make a motion to uh appoint Willie as chairperson. >> Second. >> Third. >> Third. >> You're a winner. You win. >> All right.
>> Okay. Take it away. >> Take it away. >> Okay. Uh uh. Can I have an appointment? Um, nomination for vice chair. I'll nominate Frank Debate. >> Second. >> I'll second it. >> Third. >> Hold on. Who Who uh
>> I nominated >> Willie. Second was >> okay. >> Um, appointment of secretary. All in favor? >> I opposed.
>> Okay. Uh, appointment of secretary. Nomination for secretary. >> Susan. >> Motion to approve. Susan. >> Second. >> Thank you. >> All in favor? >> I. >> I.
>> Thank you. >> Appointment of burrow attorney. >> Attorney. >> Oh my god. Board attorney. Nomin. Nomination. >> I nominate the great Andy Brewer. Hello. >> Second.
>> Okay. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. Nomination of board engineer. >> I'll nominate callers. >> Second. >> Willie Han.
>> All in favor? I >> I get there >> opposed none. Nomination of board planner. >> I'll nominate callers. >> Second. >> All in favor?
>> I opposed. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. >> Welcome. Um nomination of open space committee representative I'll nominate. >> Are you okay with that? >> Mike House.
>> Second that. >> All in favor? >> Opposed? Um, >> uh, approval of legal newspaper, which is a suburban trend. >> You want to update or? >> Yeah. So, the update on this is the
state passed new guidance. Now, that's starting in March. Hopefully uh we won't need newspapers anymore to be putting it out. We'll be putting it on our website which we're preparing right now to our website to do that. So the notices will go through there but up till March we do have to use newspapers. So that's why right now you're going to put the
suburban trends and the uh record I think it was uh on file. Um they last that long. >> Uh but uh and then starting in March there'll be no more newspaper requirement. >> Okay. >> So it's yes it's the record. So, it's a record in the suburban transit until
March. Okay. Um, we did the alternate paper same, right? So, we're good with that, right? Good. Okay. Um, approval of meeting dates and times or it's going to be the same as it's been the fourth.
>> It's in the it's in the packet. Uh, fourth Tuesday 8:00. They're listed there. Same same thing. >> Do we have any conflict? >> Just look at it. If somebody has a date that sticks out, just >> All right. I have a I have a question.
December 22nd. >> That's an example. >> I I would suggest that we cancel that meeting. >> What about New Year's Eve? When does that fall? >> Oh, no. We'll be done with that. Okay. >> December 22nd. We're looking to change.
>> We're just going to Yeah, we're not going to We're not scheduling a meeting. >> And from the 24th is Thanksgiving. I mean, two days before Thanksgiving, >> I'll think we should play that one out as we get closer.
>> So, can I have uh to approve >> motion to approve those >> with December >> 22 on being pulled? >> Second. >> All in favor? I
>> opposed. None. Okay. So, now we're moving to the regular minutes or regular meeting. Um November. I
can I have a motion to uh for the meeting uh minutes from November approval. Motion to approve minutes from the meeting of November 25th.
>> Second. >> Can I get a roll call, please? >> Mr. Hunt? >> Yes. >> Mr. Abate? >> Yes. >> Mr. Cos? >> Yes. >> Miss Berntock? >> Present. >> Mr. Rowan. >> Yes. >> Mr. Pagoula? >> Yes.
>> Miss Hazelman? >> Yes. >> Mr. Dvonte? >> Yes. >> Mr. Klouse? Yes. >> Okay. Can I get an approval uh a nomination for um the approval of the
bills for callers and you say >> Marini Falcon LLP? >> I'll make a motion >> including including the ones that were passed around today. >> Yes. >> I'll make a motion we pay the bills. >> I'll second that.
>> Okay. >> All favor. All in favor? >> Opposed? No. Okay. Um, we are now going to move on to resolution. What? >> The application. >> Applications.
>> Oh, we're going to do the What is that? >> Excuse me. I just need those papers back. >> Oh, here it is. Okay. Um, where did it go? What? Yeah, I get >> I got yours. >> You get it? Okay. >> Oh, yeah. I got it down.
>> Okay. >> Okay. >> No down. >> You should have three. >> No, I have >> I gave you Willie >> and then I have uh >> Oh, okay. Frank, I don't have yours from the other board.
>> There you need Willie, Mark, and Lynn. >> Is that three? >> I got three. Oh. So where am I going? November. >> That's November. >> Lot of papers. >> Yes. Okay. So now we're going on to
application BOA25-08 uh 102 Albany Avenue. Please come forward. Sorry guys. >> Hi be sworn in. >> Okay. >> So please both uh stand raise your right hand. You're going to be testifying as well. Come in before you come in. Uh
please state your name and spell your last one two three. >> Chef Kendino S. >> Jessica Sandino. S I N. >> Cory Vanderbal. Uh B A N D E R A K. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony
you'll give this evening before this board will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? So, help you got it. >> Proceed. >> Okay. Um, we are interested in getting >> if you'd like to sit down. >> Comfortable. >> Yeah. Yeah, you're fine.
>> Um, we are here because we are trying to get an ingground pool in our home. We lived in Thompson for almost 18 years and we plan on living here many more years on a building. >> Okay. So, why don't you just um tell us about
your project and uh Oh, you want the warm room? >> Yes. >> You give your qualifications. >> Uh, so I'm a licensed engineer in the state of New Jersey. Obtained my license in 2021. Um I obtained a bachelor's degree in engineering from New Jersey Institute of Technology.
>> Is your uh PE still valid in New Jersey? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Summary of the plan. So the property that we are discussing tonight is 102
Albany a also known as block 8705 lot 11. The property is located just south of the intersection of Albby Drive and Riverview Drive. It also funds on the Water River. As a consequence of it being located on the river, there's also
a portion of property that's located in the New Jersey flood hazard. There is currently an existing single family home at the front of the property. There is also a detached garage here
with a driveway on the left side of the house going down towards the detached garage. There's also a uh parking area directly in front of the garage between the garage and the house. The rear of the property is enclosed by
6T vinyl fence on either side as well as a 4ft black uh aluminum fence towards the uh rear of the property parallel to the garage. The property slopes from Ali a down to the W River. Um, as far as vegetation
goes, it's pretty much one area across the property. The applicant proposes to construct a ground inground pool between the existing single family home garage. The area of the pool proposed 512 ft, which
is 16 ft by 32 ft long. The applicant also proposes a paper patio round pool of 1,25 ft. The proposed pool equipment is located
towards the northwest of the existing single family home. As far as uh zoning, the properties located in the R4 zone. The existing conditions are deficient in several key areas. The lot area is 12,100 square ft
where the required lot area is 15,000 ft. The lot frontage is 50 ft where the required lotage is 50 ft. The existing lot width is 50 ft where the required lot width is 75. So that's another
deficiency. The front yard setback for the well is 24.39 ft or 30 ft required. That is also a deficiency. The sideyard, the left sideard setback is 15.21 ft or 10 ft
required. The right side set back is 4.29 ft where 10 ft required. So that's also a deficiency. The rear yard set back for the house is 160.39 ft where 40 ft is required. The building coverage is 10.13% where 25 is the
maximum. Um the sideyard setback for the existing detached garage is 4.29 ft where 20 ft is required. So that's another deficiency. And then for the proposed conditions the
proposed pool is located at a distance of 5 ft from the right side yard where 10 ft is a requirement. The pool setback from the other structures on the property is 9.1 ft to the detached garage where 12 ft is required. So an
additional variance we rece. % where 20% is the maximum. And then also brought up in the board of engineers letter, there have been additional variance for the total area of the pool and pool patio, which is uh we are proposing
1,717 ft. That is the total area of the pool and the patio surrounding it where 1500 square ft is the maximum. So we have um several key bars on this property. I'm not a professional
planner. However, in speaking to the hardships that exist in the property, I've already noted the deficient lot area, the deficient lot width, which would be directly linked to the sideyard setback pool where we are proposing a
sideyard of 5 ft or 10 ft required. We are also um as far as the location of the pool close to the existing garage. The pool is really in its optimal and uh best
position as far as location. Reason for that is if you were to move the pool to any other location and potentially behind the garage. For one thing, that would uh move the pool significantly away from the single family home um which would obviously not be preferred.
As well as there would be significant elevation difference from the back door at the rear of the house in 191. The elevation in the rear yard behind the garage is be a significant number of steps to get to the pool. Also, if the
pool were to go in the rear of the garage, it would be placed even more in the flood hazard area of the Long River and therefore would be more frequently flooded and therefore maintenance costs would go up as well as just others associated with that.
There I've also reviewed the letter prepared by Conor's engineering dated November 4th, 2025. Um, I believe the engineer has requested
additional testimony regarding the uh the lighting. Um, so I personally am not aware of the lighting plan, but perhaps the owners can speak to what they >> uh excuse me one second. The letter from callers.
I I don't have that in my phone. The letter was written November 4th, but we have a revised date of November 24th on that same letter. I want to make sure. Do you have that? >> I do not have that. >> Does anybody else have that letter?
>> I should >> only because several of our comments from your letter were addressed in your second submission. So, we have them satisfied on November 24th. pause. >> Yeah, I would suggest that we take a a 10-minute pause so we can get copies out
to everybody on the board. Um and then we'll reconvene. So, let's do 10 minutes. Okay. >> Y Okay. Um before we go any further, um there's a statement on the denial um of the uh information about permit by rule.
Um so I'm going to ask Cers if you can explain to us what that is just way everybody on the board is familiar with >> what that statement is. So, in the D flood hazard um regulations, if you're in a flood hazard area, there
are certain improvements that you can make on the property without going for a full-blown individual permit or a general permit. And it's called permit by rule. I don't remember the number of the specific permit by rule, but it speaks to swimming pools. And as long as
your swimming pool is built, this the surface is built at or below the flood hazard elevation and then there are several other conditions in that permit that the applicant appears to be meeting. They don't technically go to
the D with an application. They're just confirming in testimony that these conditions will be met and they don't need a specific letter from the D board. >> Okay. Thank you.
>> Anybody on the board have any questions? No. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Continue. >> So, in review of the letter dating under here, I'll just go through some of their comments that they asked to be addressed
here at this meeting. I will start out with comment C. C. Um it appears a block curve is proposed at the bottom of the asphalt driveway where that is being um
cut off. So currently driving all the way down to the detach garage. They are terminating the driveway about halfway down the house side. They'll install block first and then the area between the new driveway or the driveway where
it's ended and the patio will be replaced. Uh letter G, the applicant shall provide testimony as to any lighting proposed uh for that. I'm going to just ask the owners to address that. Yeah, that's something that we've been incorporated
in landscaping. In addition to that, we do have lighting on the detached garage that kind of reflects down, not necessarily to our neighbors. So, that light alone is pretty significant. In addition, I guess the landscape will be uh that will be added as well. And those
lights will be on the ground. Yeah. On the ground. Okay. >> Letter J, the applicant shall provide testimony on the manner in which the pool should be drained. Um the applicant will obey any uh municipal and state regulation regarding where that uh water
be um where where that water ends up whether that be pumped out by a service um or any of those requirements. For letter L, the applicant has indicated maybe wetlands within 150 ft of
property. So the wetlands that they are speaking of are on the other side of the Wii River. They are pretty much right at the 150T buffer. Um, which reason why that's significant is that is the
maximum buffer on the wetlands. So um, any permits that are required will be obtained by the applicant. We first want to ensure that the bearings process is approved because that wetland process if necessary is a bit of a lengthy uh lengthy policy process. So um we have to
address that first and then hire potentially environmentalists to um do research to determine if there are actually 150 ft. Letter O, the applicant shall provide testimony on any clearing activities for the proposed work. So, as I mentioned
before, um there really is no vegetation on the property with the exception of the lawn area and the area that is the project area with about 50% of it is already asphalt. Um that's the parking area that was in
garage and then there's some additional lawn area that will be replaced with the pool patio and pool itself. the applicant shuffle back testing us with uh testimony regarding the pool fencing. As I mentioned, there is a 6ft vinyl fence on either side of the
property. There's also a 4ft aluminum fence um that runs north to the south adjacent to the garage. So, the goal is to keep those uh fences and to adjust them as necessary to be pool code compliant. And that about sums up my
Um during the construction of the the pool, the soil that's going to be removed for the basin of the the the pool, um that's all going to be removed or is it going to be that will have to be removed off site. And now as as mentioned by the board of engineer,
because it's in a flood hazard area, we're not allowed to raise the grade anywhere. So um that will all have to be removed from the site. >> Okay. Um, are you required to put any uh fencing because of any steep slope or cause of uh because of the the um if it
happens to rain while you're doing this uh construction and staging of the dirt uh so that it doesn't flow back to the river. >> Yes. So, soil erosion measures are proposed um including a silt fence around the property. So, that is uh what will collect any of that runoff, any of
that sediment that's closed downhill. Um, so that will all be um installed around project >> prior of the project. >> Okay. >> Questions I have. >> Anybody else on the board have any questions for the applicant or testimony that was given?
>> I have a question about the garage. You're going to keep the garage there even though there's no access to it. >> We use it for storage purposes. We've never car. >> Okay. And that's going to continue um as part
of this application that'll be stipulated. So that >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Anybody else? >> Is it going to be salt water or chlorine? >> It's going to be >> salt water. Sorry. Yes.
like if it rains and overflows then it would go into the soil back to the river. Anyone else have any anything you want to add or question? The only other comment I have really comes from Kristen and that is um
our planner that there may want to be a stipulation in the resolution that the garage is not used as a bedroom or an accessory residence. Um that's up to you, Mr. Chairman. It's just comment
that I'm passing along. Okay. >> I think that's a something that we should put in. Yep. You didn't testify. You okay with that condition? >> Yeah. Now I'm making a bedroom. Yeah, of course.
>> Okay. >> And you're not putting stairs from the deck to the No. >> What's the overall size of the pool going to be? >> You had it for 16 by 32. >> I can't hear >> 16 by 32. >> 16 by 32.
Thank you. Anything quick? Well, I I'd just like to say I think that this property supports this uh plan and I I it unlike some of the others in that that neighborhood that would not offer the same drainage issues uh to their neighbors, I don't
see how it's going to be any problem that anyone else on the board have any questions for the applicant and testimony that he's given? Nope. Everybody's good.
Okay. So, at that point, uh what we're going to do is we're going to open it up to the public and have them question uh you guys um based on your that testimony that was given. And I can't see behind that board, but I don't see anybody out there. No. Okay.
So, uh we'll close that session. Um, so, um, can I get a motion based on the Do you want to recap first? >> I'm a motion to approve the application based on the stipulation that the garage
not be used as a bedroom and that also the um other requirement. I'm sorry, the respect to >> permit by rule am >> permit by rule is adhere to >> the permit by rule wetlands. The soil is going to be removed after the digging of
the pool. The garage will only be used for storage, not for cars. And it will it will not be used for bedroom or accessory bedroom. >> Yes. >> God bless you. >> Can I get a second? >> Second.
>> Roll call, please. >> Mr. Hunt. >> Yes. >> Mr. Abate? >> Yes. >> Mr. Cos? >> Yes. >> Miss Berntock? >> Yes. >> Mr. Rowan. >> Yes. >> Mr. Fagula. >> Yes. >> Miss Hazelman. >> Yes. >> Mr. Dante.
>> Yes. >> Mr. Klouse. >> Yes. >> Everybody. >> You're welcome. Good luck on your project. >> Okay. >> Have a good night. >> You too. >> Starting this project tomorrow.
Thank you, too. >> All right. So, >> Yep. Now, we're going to go to resolution. Resolution BOA 25-10. >> Call yours. If you can state it, too. >> What? call your
>> You don't have to stay. >> You don't have to stay if you want to. >> You can. >> You can you want to? It's not going to take long. Um VA25-10 14 Summit Avenue. Everyone had an opportunity to read the resolution. If everyone has has no questions, can I
get a motion on the resolution? Anyone a motion? >> I'll make a motion. We accept it. >> There you go. >> Second. >> Only people that voted for the
resolution can vote to memorial. They had to have been here. >> Okay. Mr. Hunt. >> Yes. >> Mr. >> Yes. >> Mr. Cos. >> Yes. >> Miss Berntock. >> Present. >> Mr. Rowan. >> Yes.
>> Mr. Fabula. Yes, >> Miss Hazelman. >> Yes, >> somebody else. >> Mr. Deanzi. >> Yes, >> Mr. Clouse. >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Uh, a couple correspondents.
Um, and uh, new unfinished business. We have the variance report. Thank you. >> You got You got You got to fit him in the spreadsheet. review. Um, yep.
Looks good. Pending review. Water fleet. Pending pending. >> Is this where we just kind of review? >> Yeah, just to review it. One one thing I've noticed is a lot of times when the fence is turned down and they go and
plant plants that they plant them so close to the sidewalk that when they grow they're they're going to impede on the sidewalk. And it seems to me that something should be they should be brought to the building department's attention or somebody's attention. I
mean, maintenance-wise, you you you're going to wait until 5 years, and these trees are now so large that they're, you know, it seems to me that should be brought to somebody in the town's attention that they can't plant a a tree that they know is going to grow through
a circumference of 8 ft. >> When you say >> 3 ft from the >> When you say they can't, there has to be in the code for them to say they can't. That may be a recommendation that should come out of this, >> right? But you know, S can't do something unless the code says you're not allowed to plant a tree within x
amount of feet. >> Were you referring to hedges, Frank? Because I've seen a couple properties where the hedges come out and they're almost a trafficking pair, >> right? Well, hedges though can be maintained and they can get they can be
sliced. Okay. But a tree is different. A a a pine tree, you know, certain types of trees, they just continue to grow outward. And >> so we should make a what you're saying is to to review that
with whatever board is responsible for that and make sure >> it meets and it it it is under consideration when they're going to plant those type of trees. >> Yeah, they they >> Well, we have a shade tree commission and >> we talked to Randy, >> right?
>> But more importantly than the tree width is the tree root system. Certain trees are going to have a bigger root system which are going to um when people redo their concrete, they're going to cut the roots and the trees are going to fall and create a hazard, >> right? >> And pull up sidewalks,
>> right? >> And then you cut the root system and then the trees go bam and take out our electric >> and cars and everything else. That's >> 10 shot. >> Anyway, it's something I've been noticing a lot when when we when we see people that say we can't they can't have
a fence there. So, they put these >> bushes and trees up and then >> Yeah. >> So, I think we need to devise a letter to whichever board >> the govern body wants to consider. >> Yeah. The other thing I I I like to talk about
is um when we do have uh fences that are going up and the ordinance is 6T. Well, I I've come to uh realization that the fences are taller than a 6ft fence because from
personal experience, someone installed a 6ft uh fence in my property by my property and the fence is taller than 6t between the posts and when they however they raise it, it's taller than 6 foot, but
the actual fence is 6T. So something needs to maybe also put in something along those lines that it cannot be taller than 6 ft from the ground >> including poles. >> Including
>> including posts and top rails. >> Yes. >> Y >> cuz quite honestly my neighbor put up almost a 6 and 1/2t fence based on what they did. So and and and by code they met all the criteria
even though it's in a flood plane they did get the D and everybody involved so they they permits all are legit. Um but the fence itself is taller than 6T. >> They just when they put it in they left a little gap on the bottom and then the
post cuz now you got a 6ft fence. The post has to be taller than the six foot >> postap. So I'm just suggesting >> I'm just making sure that the definition of the height of a fence is from the ground to the top, not the fence itself.
>> Correct. And then the post. >> Yeah. >> Well, I don't think you want to limit the the post is always going to be a little bit higher. Are you saying that it should be the post itself shouldn't exceed? >> That's correct. >> Cuz now you're really looking at a 6 and
1/2t fence or maybe even >> I think that's a cap the cap of the post. >> That's a policy. That's a policy decision. You can pull off the governing body, but I think that what you're trying to say is that with that especially that gap at the bottom, you got to take in account how does the
governing body want to define the height of offense. Correct. because it appears that a way in in practical terms in actual construction they're being done so they are higher than 6 ft from the ground. >> Correct. >> And you're referring to the height of the panel, not the post, right?
>> I'm I'm saying that the fence should not be higher than 6t post included. >> Wow. Well, that's that's very different. >> Well, cuz now you're talking about there's a gap on the bottom, then there's the sixoot fence, and then there's the post.
Just say something to review. >> Yes, it's a 12 fence by this house. Just say okay. Anybody else have anything on uh the variance report? We good? Moving on.
Um we're in new unfinished business. Um I'd like to make a couple of statements. Um, Mary Curran uh has decided to uh step down from the zoning board of adjustments. I'd like to acknowledge her years on the on of service on the zoning board of adjustments and wish her well
on upcoming upcoming travel plans and any future plans. We appreciate your dedication and time spent while ser serving on the zoning board of adjustments. Mary has asked that I pass along her best wishes to the entire board. Again, wishing Mary all the best.
Very nice. >> Um, Steve Beg, Steve Beg has resigned his position on the zoning board of adjustments um due to his uh moving on to the town council uh which requires him to resign. I'd like to thank Steve
for his uh time serving on the zoning board of adjustments and wish him well serving on the town council. Again, all the best. >> Okay, anybody else? Uh new and finished business. I'm going to go back to addressing the fence issue. When it
comes to you for decision, you are by definition, you are making the new rule. So, I'll make sure that anytime, it'll be in the resolution that the and also that the applicant know that when you say something can be 5T or 6 ft, it's supposed to be 4 ft in the front
when you have corner box that it's going to be measured. It'll be in the resolution as measured from the ground or whatever the board wants. Because if you the only time you're making a decision on offense is when you're bending the rules and you're giving something new, you can define exactly where how it's going to be measured.
>> Great. Awesome. >> Yeah. >> Um thank you. >> Sorry to go backwards, but um all of these that say pending reviews, um are they all still pending reviews on the uh variance report?
>> Yes. Uh 132 ward left. We're we're going back and forth in paperwork. >> It hasn't come to us yet. >> Yeah. 233 bar talk off. There's a lot going on with that. Uh but next month should be 20 a. They're up next. Uh
paperwork is almost ready to go. >> Is 233 Bolt A. That's the one that's uh going down Lincoln. It's up on the right up in the back on the left house. I I have to recuse myself. >> I there's
>> I may have to recuse myself on that one too because >> um friends of mine are the neighbor and I know that that's so I'll talk to Andrew and make sure that it's going to be >> okay cuz I don't want that anybody to
have any issues with that. >> There's a lot going on with that. >> I'm on the historic commission. I don't know if I have to recuse myself either. >> You can talk to me. I'm not sure. Before the meeting, we'll talk about everything. Okay. >> That means
>> I don't even know if he's going to eventually ever get here. Just put it that way. >> Now, I have a question for you, Andrew. If vice chair and chair need to recluse himself, >> the board would nominate a chair for that for that particular day. Okay.
because you could open the meeting, you can be here for it to run it and then you can open for a chair once you stepped down from the guys and that that could be a motion for the day. >> Okay. >> I've done that before. >> Okay. Um new unfinished business still
we're in um open space. Do we have anything for open space to report? >> Uh just a couple things. The the biggest project going is still the uh the new field down the little leaf complex. As of the beginning of November, they
said cold weather wouldn't really stop them. >> They didn't mention snow. >> The ground's frozen and there's a sort of snow. I would imagine that's on hold for now. >> You didn't mention park weather. >> Um yeah, I mean they're they're still
trying to get the spring um for opening day in Little League. I think it's the third Saturday in April. So that opening is still going to be on time. Plus, they have to put sod down. So, it's not getting put down for the snow.
Are they getting bleachers down there, too? So, >> bleachers down at the baseball field. >> Yeah, it's a new field. >> Nice. Um, the other big project is the work down at Hersfield Park. The old bridge
has been removed. I don't know if anything's been down here. >> Mhm. Mhm. >> And I would imagine that's probably being slowed down with this this weather. So, um I still don't know what the little kids on Garden Road and South Under the Ring would have to get to make it school
cuz that's where I grow up and you cut through Hersfield. So, um that's supposed to not be done until spring. I don't I don't know why that's so long, but and then of course the the uh the path path to be uh repaired once the bridge
is fixed. That's supposed to be some kind of uh impervious material gives it a possibility river overflowing. And um the other one down Hersfield, the tennis court is being looked to be uh
refinished and it's a lot of money. You know, they're actually shopping it around trying to get the best price that last pickle ball courts there too or >> Yeah, got shot down. I mean, the extra pickle ball courts have got to be very costly.
>> They got a price of 200,000. >> They're like, um, >> yeah, but I think there was also talk about just striking different tennis. >> Yeah. But wasn't there an issue there with uh
with the tennis courts being restriped for pickle ball because of tournaments state tournaments for the >> at least one court like a fulls size tennis court for the high school because the girls play there in the in the fall and the boys play in the spring. So that >> they have two of them painted for pickle
ball I guess at least three that were correct. They're trying to the pickle ball is very popular. So, they're trying to help everybody out here. >> And then the other thing is Lakeside Park that's still being passed around
the boat house, the gazebo, the walkways. Karen Murphy wants electric down there at the gazebo for all this, you know, when they all summer long when they rent the kayaks and the paddle boards. Paddle boards. And apparently that's on the town now.
It's not open space money like Maria K was saying. So So that I don't know if that makes it go faster or go slower now. So >> we'll see. >> Thank you for your report.
I will now open the meeting up for public discussion. And since there is no one in, I will close that session. Can I get a motion for adjournment? I >> second. >> All in favor?
>> I opposed. No. Thank you all very much. Happy new year.