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Part 1 (Video ID: IP8CsZQrXWg):
- 00:00:04: Invocation, Pledge of Allegiance, and Introductions
- 00:03:02: Consent Agenda Approval and Water Safety Proclamation
- 00:06:23: Fair Housing Month Proclamation and Clerk's Week Recognition
- 00:11:45: Port Orange University Graduation Certificates Presentation
- 00:21:01: Public Comment - Adam: Overdevelopment Concerns
- 00:24:27: Public Comment - Jackie: Stormwater Management Issues
- 00:27:15: Chamber of Commerce Event Update by John Beldon
- 00:29:22: Council Comments on Sewer Plant Expansion and Land Preservation
- 00:33:47: Council Comments on Chamber's Job Fair and Riverwalk Market
- 00:41:54: City Attorney and City Manager's Riverwalk Updates
- 00:46:12: Environmental Advisory Board Report on City's Water System
- 00:57:45: Parks and Rec Advisory Board Report
- 00:58:17: Renaming Lakeside Community Center to Allen Green Center


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Please rise for invocation by Chaplain Rodrigo Cvelli of Advent Health Mission and Ministry and then remain standing for the pledge of allegiance which will be led by Atlantic High School's ROC. Welcome. >> Good evening everyone. >> Good evening.

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>> It's an honor to be here with you. Let's pray. Dear Lord, we come to you in this moment trusting that you accept us as a friend. We come to you knowing that's an honor

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to stop and connect with you. Lord, we ask that now, Lord, you help us to set aside our differences, political ones, personal ones, and otherwise. Lord, give a lot of wisdom and discernment to these leaders. so they

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can do their best for this community, Lord. And we ask that in your name. Amen. >> Amen. >> Atlantic High School ROC would come forth to deliver the pledge of allegiance. Please to the flag of the United States of

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America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> You may be seated and ROC will remain. >> Good afternoon. >> Welcome, >> Councilman and everybody.

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>> Take a moment for us guys. Well, you guys can all face us if that's all right. Absolutely. >> You guys can uh take a moment to introduce yourselves. Tell us uh obviously you guys all go to Atlantic High School. Tell us what grade you're in and what your plans are after high school. >> Absolutely. So, uh good afternoon everybody. I'm Cadet Lieutenant Colonel

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Bishop Rodriguez. I am our uh deputy core commander. Um >> good evening. I'm Cadet Stole. Uh I'm in ninth grade and my rank is master sergeant. Uh after high school I plan to go in the army. >> Excellent. Hi, I'm Cadet Molton. I'm a

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second lieutenant. I'm in ninth grade and after high school I plan to be an aerospace engineer. >> Awesome. >> Nice. I forgot to mention uh I'm probably going to be going to the Air Force after high school. So, >> thank you. >> You're welcome. Well, thank you guys very much for being here tonight. We appreciate it.

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>> Absolutely. It's an honor. Thank you. >> Court call the role. >> Councilman Foley >> here. >> Councilman Gford >> here. >> Councilman Green >> here. Vice Mayor K >> here. Mayor Stonner >> here. Five. All five are in attendance tonight. Uh sitting in for city manager Wayne Clark will be our assistant city

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manager Robin Finwick. Welcome. Welcome. >> Thank you. >> Uh just remember now if we get if we get off topic, you got to stop us. So >> you got that brick or something. I think Wayne keeps down to the throw at us. >> Are we picking colors again, too? >> Yeah. Yeah.

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>> Item four. Any public comments on consent agenda items only? Public comments on consent agenda items only. Seeing none, can I get a motion and a second to approve consent agenda items 5 through 8? >> Get a motion to approve agenda items 5

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through eight. >> Second. >> Have a motion and a second for agenda items 5 through 8. Will the clerk call the role? >> Councilman Fing? >> Yes. >> Councilman Gford? >> Yes. >> Councilman Green? >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Grubs? >> Yes. >> Mayor Stler? >> Yes. 5. That moves us on to recognition and

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proclamations. Item nine, water safety month. Got a few of these to read tonight. So, whereas residents and visitors alike, I'm sorry, is somebody here to receive this proclamation tonight? Come on up. >> Yeah, come on up. Why don't you

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introduce yourself? >> Good evening. My name is uh Susie Sver. I'm on the board for Making Change for Drowning Prevention, which we are a 501c3 organization that provides funding to um families that either cannot afford or needs, foster parents that they bring

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in small children um so that they can provide the um safety the the drowning prevention lessons that are a big necessity especially here in the state of Florida with um the state already having at least 28 drownings.

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>> So it's very prevalent right now. So every promotion of water safety is a positive for everybody. And this is timely for me personally because my eight-month-old granddaughter is at swim lessons right now.

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>> She will be similar to uh my two children who were they were able to pretty much swim before they could walk really well. They may still be able to do that. I'm not sure. But so timely. Okay. Let me read this. Whereas residents and visitors alike enjoy our state's natural waterways, rivers, lakes, beaches, and man-made

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recreational water facilities. And whereas swimming and aquatic related activities play an important role in good physical and mental health and enhance the quality of life for residents and visitors. And whereas drowning is the leading cause of unintentional death amongst children

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ages 1 through four in Florida which can occur in just a few inches of water such as a bathtub bathtub bucket or a home swimming pool. And whereas it is important for everyone including children, parents and caregivers to be aware of the water safety rules and programs to prevent drownings and

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recreational water related injuries. And whereas Senate Bill 544 from 2024, also known as the swimming lesson voucher program, was approved and signed by Governor Dannis on April 15, 2024 to increase water safety, prevent and

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prevent prevent drownings here in the state of Florida by providing sweep free swimming lessons to eligible Florida families. Now, therefore, I Scott Stilner, mayor of the city of Port Orange, do hereby proclaim this month, May 2026, as water safety awareness

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month. The city of Port Orange wishes to join other organizations in communicating the importance of swimming lessons and other activities to prevent drowning. Encourage individuals and organizations throughout Port Orange to support these initiatives. Let me come on down here and we'll take a picture and present this to you.

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>> He doesn't even charge for the first Thank you very much. Appreciate >> greatly appreciate it. Thank you. All right, moving on to item 10, fair housing month. Whereas the Is somebody here to receive this one tonight? Come on for

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you take a second, go ahead and introduce yourself, then I'll read the proclamation for you. >> My name is Lee Buckner with Lifestyle Realy Group and Daytona Beach Realtors. I'm the chair of the government affairs and arpac committee. >> Welcome. >> And my name is Leah Celig and I'm the CEO for Daytona Beach Realtors.

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And my name is GG Galloway and I'm the co-chairman. Thank you. >> Excellent. All right, let me read this for you guys. Whereas the Fair Housing Act enacted on April 11th, 1968 into federal law, the global with the goal of eliminating racial segregation

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and ending housing discrimination here in the United States. And whereas the Fair Housing Act prohibits discrimination in housing based on race, color, religion, sex, familial status, national origin, and disability, and commits recipients of federal funding to

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affirm further to affirmatively further fair housing in their communities. And whereas the city of Port Orange is committed to the mission and the intent uh by Congress to provide fair and equal housing opportunities for all. And whereas our social fabric of the economy, health, and environment are

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strengthened in diverse inclusive communities. And whereas more than 50 years after the passage of the Fair Housing Act, discrimination persists and many communities remain segregated. And whereas acts of housing discrimination and barriers to equal housing

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opportunities are repugnant to the common sense of decency and fairness. Now therefore, I, Scott Stilton, mayor of the city of Port Orange, Florida, do hereby proclaim this month, month of April 2026, as fair housing month. The city of Port Orange encourages

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activities provided uh by private and public entities to educate and advocate fair housing opportunities for all citizens and prospective residents. >> Thank you, sir. One second. >> I need these steps. I'll let you hold this. How's that?

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>> We got to get you a tray. >> Thank you guys very much. Appreciate All right, Mike, the recipient of this next one has requested photographs after the meeting, so we won't need you for listening right away. >> Municipal clerks week. How about that?

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They the clerks tied this into the same week as St. Michael. >> Oh, yeah. >> Is that a coincidence or what? Probably some >> It's meant to be. >> Probably some behind the scenes planning going on there. Whereas the office of the municipal clerk, a timehonored and vital part of our local government, exists throughout the world and is the

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oldest among public servants. And whereas the office of the municipal clerk provides the professional link between the citizens, the local governing bodies and the agencies of government at other levels. And whereas municipal clerks have pledged to be ever mindful of their neutrality and

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impartiality, rendering equal service to all. And whereas the municipal clerk serves the information center serves as the information center on functions of local government and community. And whereas municipal clerks continually survive to improve the administration of

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affairs of the office of the professional municipal clerk through participation in educational programs, seminars, workshops, and annual meetings of their state, county, and international professional organizations. Now therefore, I, Scott Stilner, mayor of the city of Port Orange, do hereby proclaim the week of

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May 3rd through May 9th as mun municipal clerks week and further extend appreciation to our municipal clerks, Robin Fenwick and Amanda Bonan, and to all municipal clerks for the vital services they perform and their exemplary dedication to the communities they represent. We'll get a picture with

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this later, but I do want to say you guys do an amazing job uh helping us and and and I don't know that people really realize that, but you know, we all have full-time jobs and we all have other responsibilities and and and sometimes things get a little bit

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overwhelming and you guys are part of the process to keep us on track and help us with get the information that we need. >> And we probably don't say it enough, but thank you very much for everything you guys do to help us. We appreciate you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> About a round of applause.

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>> All right. Item number 12, Port Orange University graduation certificates. For those that don't know, the hierarchy of stuff is usually like an associate of arts degree, a bachelor's degree, master's, PhD, and this. So, if you have

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all those hanging at home, this one goes at the top. Mike Wilkins. >> Well, thank you, Mayor Council. Um, behind me I have the class for 2026 Port Orange University. We had about 20 participants this year. Not all of them can make it tonight, but a lot of their friends and family are here. It's a really good class. Asked a lot of good

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questions. I know some of you have been through the program, so you know the benefits of it. They actually just finished up last night with police and code enforcement. So, they got to see some of the new virtual reality equipment. So, it was a cool experience, but it was a great class. And with that, glad to pass out their diplomas if we could. >> Yeah. Before you do that, I I just want

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to comment to all of the departments as well as yourself. A huge thank you uh for the coordination of of putting this particular program on. Uh in my mind, we you know, the city's been doing this for a long time. Um, we've called it different things over the decades, but

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it's the concept of taking our citizens who truly want to have a higher understanding of exactly how municipal government functions, what it can do, more importantly, what it can't do, and also learn some of those challenges that we wrestle with all the

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time. And and honestly, the program scratches the surface. We know that. But we we still think it's great. And we love the fact that you folks all turn into advocates for the program. And so, as I've done in the past, my challenge to you is find somebody to sign up for

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the next class and and and pass that on and let them know, hey, I learned some things I didn't know because I guarantee you, and you don't have to raise your hand, you had to learn something, right? There's no way you knew every single thing that was presented, right? So, I

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think there's a lot of value in that. And before we we go to that, I'm going to give these folks here just a chance to talk. We'll start with you. >> No, I congratulations on the finish of the program, guys. It's it's it's been awesome to see what a benefit that is, not only to you guys, but also for us up here and for the city as a whole,

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because uh a lot of people complain about government, have no idea how it actually functions. And then you guys take the time to come in here and and learn. And now you get to go forward and be ambassadors and explain to people when they have questions how things really do work. And that it's it's not just this one big entity. it's actually

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hundreds of people every day going to work doing the best they can for their community and that they all have different roles and work together as one unit. And so, um, you know, congratulations on on coming through, finishing it. Scott's right. It's it's it may not be a master's degree, but it is extremely important and I hope you

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guys all took something from it. It's always a pleasure to see the classes come through here. So, congratulations. Tracy, >> echoing off of Scott and Reed, what you guys went through is a process of caring and learning about your city to a level

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that most citizens don't do. So, on behalf of council and myself, thank you for taking the time of learning uh the processes of all the departments and some of the departments you didn't even know probably existed. I know uh that that's some of the things that I sat

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back when I took the class and going, "Okay, didn't know that that was part of it, but it makes a lot of sense now knowing that those departments exist and that you got a little over 500 individuals that take care of your city

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for you between all those departments. That's an amazing task for all the managers that you guys met to be able to keep the city beautiful and going forward the way it does for you. So, thank you for taking the time. >> And I think you two guys both went through this as well before y'all were

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elected. So, >> yeah. See what happens. >> Careful. >> There's three spots open up here coming. >> That's right. Let's talk to some alumni. Lance, go right ahead. >> Yeah. Again, u thank you guys for taking the class. And again, my like I said when I after I took the class, the first

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thing I said is every citizen should take this class and have a little better understanding of more so the struggles that the city goes through to to do things because this is a business and keeping people and keeping manpower to do the things that we have to do is is a

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struggle in any business. And uh and I think that uh you know people think that you know the city's just all gravy and it's not. It's it's very difficult and some of the things that uh that our people do are are difficult task day in and day out, but we have people who do

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it uh to to keep our city the way it is. And hopefully you guys enjoyed the class. I enjoyed the class when I took it. I thought it was really cool. Um and again, hopefully you guys will will chat it up to the rest of the people. But thanks for thanks for taking the class. >> Perfect. >> Yeah, once again, thank you. And they

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they pretty much said it all. I just hope you become Facebook professional so you can refine all the misinformation that comes across now that you you actually know how it works. So, thank you very much for your time and and share what you've learned and uh encourage others to get involved and

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hopefully uh that'll help. >> Back to you, Mike. >> All right. So, we're going to call you up just one at a time in alphabetical order. So, if you want to come down this way here, I'll give you certificates. So, we'll start with Craig >> Bartholomew. >> There's no music for this guys. Sorry. Got to fight for the copyright.

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>> Thank you, Mike. I appreciate it. >> Lorie Becker, >> Christy Bordo. William Boot >> Sarah Hayes. >> Oh man. Okay. Arnold Le.

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>> There's always one student raising the bar. >> We got to get one of those. >> Y Long, >> Terry Monet. Edith Mos >> Lynette Negron. >> Congratulations. Congratulations,

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>> Melissa Auster. >> Andrea P, >> Richard Pton, >> Jen Snider, I would do I try to duck out and then they still get in there. >> And Robert Thompson app. Congratulations.

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>> You want to give her your phone, too? >> Yeah. I'm taking this clown right here for a moment. Let me wiggle in the back here because I can. >> We're not going to see you back here.

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You got to stand up on your toes. Rumor has it when Mayor Alan Green built this building, he didn't anticipate a need for a photo op. >> You guys can get with him right over there. >> Thank you guys very much. >> Great job, guys. Thank you.

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like to stay. >> A come on now. >> All right. >> Thanks. >> You're welcome. >> Thank you guys all very much. >> Oh, that brings us on to public participation. Adam,

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>> come on, my friend. Good to see you. >> Welcome. Go right ahead. >> Back again. Uh, council mayor. Thank you for having me. Um, I wanted to apologize for last time I was here. I'm learning as I go to not speak up from the peanut gallery. So, >> wasn't intentional, but I've got to

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learn my uh my lessons the hard way. All, trust me, a lot of passion. Uh, not a lot of brains sometimes. But back to the overdevelopment. Um, I'm learning that I have to understand how my three minutes go here to make my pitch to kind of speak on my behalf and clear my chest

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rather than just say little quibbits. So, I'm trying to be a little more prepared as I go. The biggest thing I can say is I know we have to develop. I know we're going to develop. It is just specifically the overdevelopment and I go to a lot of examples. I used Yellowof

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Fin Road out near um past the pavilion. Specifically, I'll bring to the ICI development. Um, and this kind of plays into what you mentioned before about W's Edge giving kids a place to ride their bike and having kind of that circular

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reasoning kind of mentality, but it's not real. It's not truthful. It's not honest for a lot of the kids living there, for a lot of the citizens here, for a lot of what we have to put up with. Back to that, I would say 100% zero lot lines and small

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driveways make it more dangerous for kids to ride their bikes. I've got you go through any of these new neighborhoods out there that ICI bill, the driveways aren't big enough for a truck. So, these kids are riding in the road every time they go around. And I go trick-or-treating in that neighborhood. It's crampacked. The reason it's good, it's got a lot of northerners. They all

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moved in. They all give out Snickers bars. My kids love it. It is not a safe neighborhood no matter which way you put it. So, I'm glad you brought the bike thing up because it gives some bite, no pun intended, to the reality of it. It all comes back to reasoning. If it

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wasn't reszoned, such a high density, again, the one we were talking about airport road, it went from 160 to 150, 120, now at 50. Sounds nice and generous, but the goldfish fits the tank. If we reszone it

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into oblivion, they will do cheap houses, small driveways, zero lot lines, cheapest you can build. If we just reszone it normally from 10 acres to 2 and a half acres or whatever it might be, it allows Port Orange to hold on to

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something that's still there just barely because we don't have a lot of a lot of room left. And a couple you guys have called me and I appreciate that to kind of speak from the council off the record so I understand a little bit better of how it goes on. Uh again, I'm passionate about this city. I love this city. I work here. I employ 36 people now just

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in this city. I live here. Both my kids are here. I can go on and on and on. But please stop overdeveloping us into oblivion. Every time there's a farmland that comes up, we don't have to cannibalize it into a neighborhood. It can stay a farmland to give one

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homeowner the ability to throw the rest of the citizens, I guess, value. It seems kind of shortsighted to me. So again, thank you guys for hearing me out and I appreciate and I appreciate the calls to me to keep me in line. >> Thanks, Adam.

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>> Jackie, >> Jackie Clark. >> Welcome, Jackie. >> Thank you. >> Emotional topic for me. Um, like you said, my name is Jackie Clark and I live in Tamoka Farms Village, an unincorporated area of Port Orange. Last

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meeting there were some comments regarding development bordering Spruce Creek and I would like to address a couple of them. I think you may not be fully informed. First, we never received 22 in of rain in a short period of time. The data is

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easily available from the National Weather Service and Noah and Noah and is also publicly available from your own wastewater facility that logs it every day. It's all public record. On September 29th, 2022, during Hurricane Ian, we received a lot of

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rain. However, it was 11 inches of rain. And even with all the rainy days that preceded Ian, the entire month of September did not add up to the 20 to 222 in of rain. That is something that you can look up for yourselves without relying on others

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for your information. Secondly, though my community is just outside Port Orange city limits, we basically get the same rainfall that you do. So imagine what it's like on top of that to have 54 million gallons of your Port Orange storm water and waste water

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pumped out to us just the month of September during peak hurricane season. For reference, a million gallon swimming pool is 267 ft long by 50 ft wide and 10 ft deep.

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That's practically a 10-ft deep football field times 54. Not to mention that the Pond B wastewater storage pond, which is a few miles due west and much higher in elevation than my neighborhood, was well over the permitted water level and at

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least a foot over the spillway elevation for nearly the entire month of September and several months after that. In fact, in January of 2023, when your consultant visited your reclaimed water storage ponds to download the quarterly water levels, a boat had to be used to

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access some of the pisometers due to heavy hurricane season. That is four months of animal pollution being soaked up and drained into Spruce Creek. I believe selling a family for farm for its highest and best use is absolutely the right of the owners. However, until

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the city of Port Orange is able to responsibly manage the waste and storm water from its current population, adding more homes to the system is just reckless. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, >> John Beldon Orange Chamber Commerce event update.

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>> John, as you as you come up, I'm going to take an opportunity to to say thank you to the Chamber of Commerce. You guys have hosted some amazing events recently. your your job fair, >> the youth of our city every year gets better and better. >> I think it's mainly because I joined the

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board, >> you know, congratulations. We're going to get you a raise. So, I appreciate >> whatever you're making now, we'll double it. >> Oh, that sounds fantastic. >> And the the tasteful affair event. It >> was a great event, right? >> Wow. I that So, I think I've probably been to six or seven of those by far.

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That was the best attended. >> Absolutely. >> It was really a great event. uh almost a capacity kind of a thing. I don't know how many more businesses you could take. Maybe another half a dozen, but then that would probably be >> Yeah, it was it was you know the layout when you look at it, it got to that point where

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>> Yeah, but it was great the participation. How about Tiki Dogs, huh? >> Yeah, great job. Great job. So, uh pass on my congrats to the board. >> I appreciate that. I'm going to keep it brief. I just wanted to first off uh thank you guys and and for those that came to the event. It was a fantastic event. Great food, great event. uh

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excuse me, great entertainment. Uh so next year, 2027, uh those in the in the audience, highly recommend you come out. It's an awesome event. Um got a couple events coming up, bigger ones. Um not bigger than that, but I'm just saying big events that I'll touch on. We have

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uh for baseball fans, we have our business after hours on May 21st from 5:00 to 7:00 at the Tortugas. Um, so that'll be a great event if you guys want to come out, mingle with the business community and see what's going on there with the Tortugas. And then another big event for the chamber, uh,

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which is going to be June 26 from 6:00 to 10, that's casino night. So, if you like to, uh, have a little fun with the casinos and gambling, we'd love to have you guys come out. Uh, other than that, thank you guys for what you do. Appreciate you and uh, and thank you for my time.

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>> Good stuff. Thank you. Appreciate you. All right, back to council members. Lance, I think we'll start with you tonight. >> Um, I'll keep it short, but I just want to make a comment about consent items D and E. And um, and and to let you know,

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just let people know that here we are spending $3 million to buy properties for what is going to be the expansion of the of the sewer plant facility. and um and our staff working hard to to figure

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out the best way to go about going about this and and instead of spending $4 million for a temporary facility, we're spending $3 million. We're going to buy some land to to offset the the temporary work that has to be done. And then

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ultimately, this is going to help us in the long run for the growth of of our plant. And um and I just want to just commend our staff for for running these figures and figuring this out and figuring out uh how we can make deals with these particular properties. But uh

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I mean obviously it's going to be a change on Dunl. I mean one of these properties right on Dunl, but at the same time this is uh this is a financial investment into what is getting ready to be about a $80 million sewer plant uh rehab. So, uh, just want to just bring that to light that, you know, it's good

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work and, uh, good good financial responsibility in this in this new project coming up. >> Good. Anything else? >> That's it. >> Sounds good. Sean, >> no, I just, uh, glad to see that the county uh, reserved about 1300 acres today along the St. John's River.

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>> And, uh, you know, that's that's >> quite price tag, too, but that was worth it. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's two and a half miles along the river. um that's been preserved. So, I like to see that and I like the fact that we have 11,000 acres west of our city that we have reserved.

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So, um you know, good things are happening. I know that they're looking at doing more of that. So, exciting to see >> if those that didn't get to the job fair uh with the chambers had was just absolutely amazing. Over 400 kids showing up in attendance. It was just an

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amazing thing to watch all these vendors coming out and trying to recruit uh our young youth coming out of high school and just brilliant. Um Councilman Green, I have to agree with you. uh agenda items 6D and E. When you sit there and

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you look at the money that's uh being proposed for buying land and things of this nature, what it saves just right off the bat is about 3.3 million with a differential. I mean, that's >> conservative to uh what we're looking

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for for our staff to be able to do to come up with these ideals. and you know, $3 million, that's $3 million saved so we can move towards budgeting more money towards the the water mitigations. So, you know, every time they come with

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ideals like this, it's just great for the city all the way around. Um, and then number seven, dealing with the agenda item. The reason I'm bringing up the agenda items, even though we've we voted on it already, these are the items that people forget that we've been working on

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these items sometimes seven, eight months behind the scenes. It's not something that just gets voted on, boom, done. It's been on for months. And this one's actually over a year um dealing with the old sewer lines underneath the

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river. You know, uh it's over 30 plus years old. and we have those lines that are in desperate need of being repaired. Um, Army Corps of Engineers have put things together on it. We've got grants coming through on it uh that actually

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replaces them. So, again, money saved to the city, millions of dollars just because of grants being fed back to it. So, these are the things that the staff has been doing um behind the scenes and can't thank y'all enough for doing that.

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um along with uh Robin and uh the clerks getting together with Atlantic High School ROC. Brilliant. Thank you. Thank you for coming and doing that. Um showing the involvement of our community and our community youth is a beautiful thing and

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uh highly encourage that in the future for others. So thank you. >> Reed, >> uh just one small note for you guys. Um, since I don't have a report for the fire pension at the end of the agenda, um,

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just want to let you guys know that our attorney is, uh, stepping down from his position, um, as a whole, changing companies, and so, uh, we're going to be looking to figure out whether or not we need to fill in with somebody existing at the same company or if we want to

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hire him again through his new firm. So, uh, just going to be a little thing we got to figure out, but that's all. Sure. >> I can that way. >> All right. Uh, so I just want to echo again that the events the chamber has been putting on lately have been

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spectacular as they always are. Uh, and but we that we don't want to go without notice and say thank you for all of that stuff. I also want to make another notation. I think I I talked about this a couple of weeks ago. The the Riverwalk Market that is happening on Sunday

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mornings. I'm telling you, if you haven't been yet, you're going to want to check it out. It is It is It is much like a vision. I'm not sure if I'm saying that right, but that a lot of our residents have been wanting for decades

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and decades. And when you go down there, you cannot help but feel this is what we've been waiting for. This is what we want. Things along the water, things to go do, things that are fun and comfortable and enjoyable. and they are doing a magnificent job. I don't know if

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Robin's gonna touch on it in her notes tonight, but to the point where they they've exhausted the vendor space that they can really have, but we're going to work with them to create more vendor space so this can continue to grow. But it's called the Riverwalk Market. It is

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on Sunday mornings from 9:00 a.m. to 100 p.m. I understand now there's a vendor wait list. It's gotten so popular with the vendors because it's so well attended. There is a lot of parking. Knock on wood. I don't know how they're doing it, but they have had a streak of

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incredible weather. Um, so Sunday mornings are great. There's a little bit of everything down there. I've got to stay away from some of the baked good uh vendors. Uh, fortunately, the last time I was down there, I got down there a little late and a lot of them were already sold out of the ones I liked most. Probably

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helping me out in the right direction. But I strongly encourage you guys to check that out because it is really a neat thing to see in that area and it's something we've been looking for for a really long time. Um, you know, I we we get a lot of of folks that come up, residents and and non-residents like

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Adam who who who share their concerns and they are always welcome, always uh and they're well appreciated. Um, but from time to time and I know we don't, you know, we talk about this so much with staff. We've had so many meetings and so many workshops and there are a

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lot of other things to do uh with our role and quality of life is extremely high when we survey residents who live in the city of Port Orange. And so we got to work on a lot of those things too. And you know I I I just would say that I feel very good at the effort that

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our staff and our council is putting in towards improvement of storm water mitigations. you know, these these are these are needed projects. We don't we don't disagree with that. Um they they are big projects. They they will require

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a lot of funding. It will take years to acquire a lot of funding, but the ball is moving as as we speak. A lot of it hinges on what comes out of Tallahassee. You know, we we have to look to Tallahassee for a lot of the help. Um

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and and on the Tallahassee note, you know, a lot of you know, it's an election year, right? So you got a lot of people running around stop the growth, slow the growth, do this with the growth. The reality of it is folks in the state of Florida, the economic fabric of the entire state is largely

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contingent on growth from the state down, not from the cities up, from the state down. Right? So you you you've had a legislature up there for many many years now who have who have enacted legislation that have made it even

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harder for municipalities and counties to slow growth, regulate growth, control growth. And every time a city wants to step up and try to file a lawsuit, what do we see happens? They lose. And even when they don't necessarily lose, the

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courts are basically sending it back going, "We're going to give you guys a chance to try to work this out and maybe they come to some agreements and things like that." All that to say, that is at a level above ours. Um, we we are close to build out in the city of Port Orange. We know that that's not the case in the county. We know that in the south end of

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the county, the north end of the county, west end, there's lots of areas for growth and the developers will be looking toward a lot of those areas. the limited areas that we do have um the the become an opportunity for us. I think our council has done a really good job

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of trying to manage that and and and secure growth that we look at and we say that's a quality project. Adam mentioned earlier tonight um you know the project that is now going to be one unit per acre. Well, a lot of the development

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that you see east of I95 and on the east side of Lucia County, it's all two and four units per acre, which is where the initial project was trying to go. Um, and so it became a one unit per acre, 50 homes on 56 acres of land. That is not a high density project. That is a

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relatively low density project when you look consistently amongst the projects. I will also say and it's probably been 2024 might have even been 2023 some of the years run together so I do apologize you know we asked the community development office to look at all the projects that

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were brought before us over a period of time and they looked at 29 projects that were brought reszoning changes 27 of the 29 projects the council approved less density not more. So we have worked

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really hard to try to reduce the density when we can and sometimes yeah that's entering into agreements but it is what it is because I will tell you other projects that residents have strongly urged us to vote no against we've done it and then they hate what they get. They don't like it. They just they start

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calling us go well they're doing this and we're doing that. We're like we told you that was going to happen. If you go with a straight zoning you're going to get what you get by code whatever the state laws whatever the courts are going to allow. And sometimes that is the case. So you don't always get the best project by going that way. And and the

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process isn't perfect for us. It it isn't perfect and it won't be perfect for the next group that sits up here and the groups that sat up here before us. >> But we do work hard to try our best to come up with quality development. You're going to see a lot of development in the state of Florida, folks, in the next 30

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decades. the numbers that are coming out of Tallahassee with the amount of people who want to move to Florida and want to be coastally oriented. By the way, they don't want to go to South Florida anymore. They don't want to go uh Palm Beach County south. They want they want to be north. They want to be this side of the coast and the Tampa Coast and and

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and a lot of the northern counties and stuff. So, because there there's more development opportunities. They're more affordable and things like that. So, we hear you. Every single time somebody comes up here, we hear your message. We do not want you to think it ever falls on deaf ears, but there are a lot of components and there's a lot of

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variables to it. And and I'm I will say I'm very proud of of what the council and the staff has done to always try to bring us the best projects into the city. They're not perfect. We know that some of them require work. Uh we have a lot of older areas. Some are in the city, some are not in the in the area. A

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lot of the areas for the folks that come up here, they don't live in the city of Orange. They live in unincorporated Valuchia County. They live in neighborhoods that don't really have any of the infrastructure. They wouldn't be able to build those neighborhoods today, right? Because they wouldn't meet the codes and they don't have the infrastructure. That doesn't mean their

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concerns aren't legitimate. They 100% are. Uh and we try to be mindful of that as much as we possibly can because we want to be good neighbors to those folks as well. So, we will continue plugging away. And I don't I don't mean to call you out by name. I hope that was okay. I don't mean any disrespect, but we do appreciate you coming. We appreciate it.

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We appreciate folks who come and and speak respectfully and share their their comments and concerns. And so you're always welcome, my friend. >> All right, enough of that. We're going to move on to city attorney comment. Matt, what do you got? >> Uh, enough for you tonight. All right, assistant city manager Finwick, what do

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you have for us tonight? >> So, I do have some some updates on Riverwalk. So, you will see the license agreement with Tiki Docs on on your next agenda. >> So, that that's that parking that you were talking about. Um we've also met with um some a potential buyer um as

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Wayne reported at the last meeting and we feel like it went well but but we'll see what happens with that and uh call yours has has had some other phone calls and teams me or teams calls with with other interested people and we expect to have um some options by the end of the

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month and then bring it to you guys in hopefully in June. So that's kind of the timeline we're looking at for Riverwalk. um some storm water projects. We have the Cambridge pump station upgrades. Those bids are due um May 15th and they had their second site visit. Questions

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have been asked and the answers are being compiled with city staff and the engineering consultant and will be posted um still on schedule for the end of this week. Um so that one's chugging along. >> So have the bids been I'm sorry, have the deadline to turn in the bids been

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met yet? >> May 15th. >> May 15. >> Yeah, May 15th. they they get the they get a chance to ask questions. Yep. >> We respond to those questions and and post that and then their bids are due. >> You guys ever want to see something complex, >> the bid process? That being said, a lot

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of times projects that are really really important to us and they they all are important, but really high level things like this, unfortunately, a lot of times we don't see a lot of folks wanting to bid these projects. Sometimes you're h you're good if you get two or three or four people. We I don't know how many bids we're

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going to get, but wasn't there over 25 interested companies or 20 or something? >> Uh I think there were about 30 people at the bid opening people, but um I I think there were like maybe 10, 12, 15ish companies, which is which is a lot. So, and they've had a lot of good questions.

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Um it's a complex >> project with, you know, with railroad and all of that. So, >> um lots of questions. >> Five or six bids for these projects because there more projects coming. Absolutely. Um other storm water projects, we have uh agreements coming

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to you in June from FEMA as 14 homes have moved into the next stage. So 13 of those are to um be elevated and those are primarily east of Nova Road and then one mobile home in Colony in the Wood will be uh demoed and then replaced. So

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we expect that work to start in early 2027. And this is the program where the homeowners have to pay 25% upfront of those costs and then we pay 75% and get reimbursed that 75% from FEMA after the project's completed. So we'll see that moving along. Um some

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parks bond projects we have Karassi Park North. Um we've met with some school staff and the Karassi team um at different meetings last week and we're just beginning the the discussions on some land purchases with those um those two teams. So more to come on that one.

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Um city center sports complex the new fields that with this is the school swap um property that we properties that we did. Um we anticipate construction contract award in June on that one. Um, Wreck West design contract award is on

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the May 19th agenda. Still construction. Uh, we'll have a Seymar with that one. Um, and that award is is going to be at Council level uh later this summer. And then last meeting you asked for Bushman um disc golf update. So, we have baskets

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and tea boxes that are in the uh signs are the yardage signs are being fabricated for the 9-hole course. We anticipate the signs to be delivered and installed in miday. Then we'll advertise the opening of it and I know we have got a lot of people super excited about that one. So >> good. Y

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>> there are they've been people have been wanting to just call place for a really long time. It's hard to get everything and some stuff we see you know it's a fad and then it goes away and you're like we get to spend a bunch of money trying to but that's one that's been it's been around for a long time and people have been asking for a place.

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>> The ones that are asking for the disc golf are the ones that are not asking for the um What's the >> pickle ball? >> Pickle ball. Thanks. How could I forget? Right. Anything else? >> That's it. >> All right, moving on. Thank you. Item 16, environmental advisory board report. >> Welcome.

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>> Thank you. >> Good to see you. >> How are you? It's been a little while. >> I got to say, >> hey, Chris Cunningham. Um, we had election of officers and obviously since I'm standing here, I retain my crown. >> Congratulations. one double or

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>> no I I this means so much to me and and John is the the vice chair. Um we want to let you know that um we had some guest speakers come to our meeting and we had code enforcement come for water

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um restrictions. We want to know in the city how many people don't follow their their water restrictions. Very few do not. Um it was impressive. Six out of all our 60 what 66,000

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people. That's all the people that have been brought before code enforcement. So that was very impressive. Um doing a good job. Everybody must be doing a good job letting people know when their watering days are. There was a lot of confusion as to what

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that meant. Um, I'm impressed that people actually know that, you know, if you have well water or you have uh reclaimed water or whether you have regular water uh city water that you're using to water your plants or grass that you know what days. That is impressive

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because they're all different days. So, kudos to your advertising. Uh we also had a a guest speaker, the city engineer come and talk about our storm water project where we would like to initiate um the residents of Port Orange to look at their storm water drains right before

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a storm. So that is a work in progress. Uh we are going to be giving away um our plants at the fall festival uh through various situations. We haven't been able to do it for the last couple uh festivals, but we will be doing it in the fall. and uh we're going to reach

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out to the people that have signed up before and also people that uh can also pick them up the day of the uh festival. And the final um request from the board is

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that if um we have somebody come before us and they have unfortunately taken down a tree or two that they were not supposed to and there is or there are ordinances that you must pay fines or replant that we request respectfully

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that you don't lower the fines. Um, the point of the ordinances is to not have that happen. If they know that's they're going to do it and it's going to be cut in half, what is the point of having them? Well, please, if

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we we're the ones who are sitting down with these people, they come to us, explain the situation. We have very intelligent, very dedicated people on our board. If we don't recommend that, there's a reason that we we understand.

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We talk we we we give a lot of thought to what we do. So I just wanted to uh ask you to please not do that if you can avoid it and we we trust your judgment as well. And do you have any questions for me? >> I I'll just comment with for you on a

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couple things. And on that last thing, >> we don't ever want the board to feel disrespected if we decide a different decision. understand reality of it is is when you pass ordinances and you have fines, they're not as black and white as you think and they just don't cover every little thing. And just like in the

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real courts, the the the criminal courts and the civil courts and your traffic courts and all those things, I can tell you from two decades of experience, >> they do the exact same things, the judges and the juries and and they go through that process. And that's why we have a process. But what's important to me is that the environment the

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environmental advisory board, you guys do your thing, whatever that is, and that's fine, and you send that to us, but don't ever feel disrespected if we increase fines or decrease fines or or it may seem like we didn't agree. There's just mitigating things. We've had some recently where we look at that,

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we go, man, that just doesn't that doesn't make sense. It doesn't work, right? you know, and and so and and you see properties and homes that have been bought over generations and and now there are issues and things like that. And then you also have stuff with storms and freezes like what freeze stuff of

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course >> the trees this year and and shrubs was really something. >> So, but anyway, >> and I thank you for that and again with the freeze of course >> trees are something that we treasure. are a tree city and um the some of the

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issues out just outside Port Orange, a lot of that disagreement um regarding a certain uh potential housing development. I had to do the report on the trees and so there's a lot of people. It's not

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just one person. It's just not me. We everybody if you're looking at social media, if you're looking talking to people, we are known for our trees. So we take that very seriously all throughout >> require a lot more than most other municipalities. >> Exactly. And I

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>> the other thing to comment on is the irrigation and the reclaimed water. Um Mayor Green's here tonight. We're going to be talking about him in just a moment, but a a visionary and a pioneer to think of a a reclaim water system when nobody else I mean nobody was doing

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it or had it. They weren't even thinking about it to the point where once ours came to fruition, St. John's Water Management District would be in Tallahassee telling other cities, "Do it like Port Orange." The amount of phone calls we would get from other mayors and

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council members and and and stakeholders around the state when we want to come tour your facility and check it out. And by the way, that's a work in progress that continues to get better and better and better as we learn more and more and more. But the but and and my point to that was going to be one of the focal

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points was to stop discharging into the Halifax River. >> And what happens is people don't stop producing water that needs to go to the reclaimed water facility just because we get a lot of rain. But guess what they do? They turn off their sprinklers. And that becomes a

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problem for us because we still need to distribute it to lawns and golf courses and and stuff like that. So, it's it's a constant work in pro progress. Um, I I appreciate the comments about code enforcement. I know they try to do the best they do. You know, it's it's not a

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perfect thing, but I think it works out pretty good. But, um, so kudos to you guys for being thinking about >> and we agree with you. You know, we um when you said go see Port Orange, I think you'll find very few people that wouldn't stand up and say come see my

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town. This is what we do. And that has that is the way we want to move forward. Not all ever looking back and saying, "Well, that was good enough." We can't ever be good enough. >> See what happens when I get to be a chair. >> Read anything. Anybody else?

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>> No, I'm good. >> Tracy, >> so fall festival, you're talking about Port Orange Family Days. >> Yep. >> Okay. Making sure that Right. Same dates. >> Yes, we are. Thank you, Tracy. >> Yeah. I want to say thank you for serving on that board. I know you've been doing it a long time and I know

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they're not lining up out the door to to take that spot. So, I do appreciate and I love your passion uh towards our city and protecting it. And has anyone uh come to you guys in reference to toilet? >> Uh not officially.

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>> Okay. So, this we're just talking about reclaimed water and we bring it to our houses to put it in our yards. And why would we not take it and put it in our toilet >> instead of this crazy idea that someone

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wants to put it in our drinking water when we could discharge it into our toilets and save how much I mean I'd be curious to know how many households flush a toilet how many times a day and how much good drinking water goes right down the toilet >> back in the day. Okay. So, they do that

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in Japan, but back in the day, their argument was because the dogs drink out of the toilet and so do the children. That was the argument. Why don't we have that type of water? And then it became a piping issue that comes from different places. And

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so, but that was people wanted to do that for a long time. That is an idea that is used in other places. the toilet to tap. You will look at those are trigger words and be people get scared about

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water that they feel will contaminate their bodies. I know that the because I took the Port Orange Academy that you go to the water department and they will give you they will show you how clean their water is and cleaner than the

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water that you drink. However, just because of those trigger words, it is done in many places in this country, in this world. So many. >> And so you can get people that are very passionate about redirecting that for

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their own benefit. And then you'll have people that are looking at it from a scientific point of view. and they've made their their um scientific assessments very clear and those are the

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people that I stand behind not not the trigger word people not the people scaring people it's the people that are using science so >> we can't we're not scientists we we are people of different uh careers

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that is true but we're not scientists so we leave it to the scientists So, I want to be very clear. I'm not in favor of toilet tap in any way. >> No. >> But I'm in favor of someone looking at could you take recycle reclaimed water and have it come into a household into a

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toilet? >> Yep. >> And that would save us. >> Mhm. >> I'm not >> I don't know how much clean water that we're flushing. >> There are there are other options. there are a lot of options and people are just starting to realize again because of the

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science not from the opinions where we should be making changes in some of the things that that we do with our water and our and our sewer. So >> I think it would be a lot of it would for that an idea like that you're talking state building codes and and how

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builders would and the first time somebody some plumber got the pipes wrong >> you're going to have a big problem but but but that's the thing is thinking outside thinking about things and having discussions doesn't always >> how many people grew up on well water >> oh yeah drinking from the hose right

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Lance what do you got >> no I'm good thank you for that >> okay thank you everybody appreciate all of you >> parks and rec advisory board. Bobby Ball. >> Bobby Ball with the Park Advisory Board. Um Robin did such a good job earlier. >> She covered you.

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>> She kind of covered most of my stuff and and I don't have a lot to say, so I'll just keep it to short and brief to what I can say. Um we've had a resignation from Mike Navara. he has moved to Daytona Beach and so we need to fill a spot and uh I assume that is going through the process and it'll eventually

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make it way its way to you to pick somebody else. So, uh we need somebody there and uh I also don't have I don't want to say anything more about the next item because that was also discussed. So, I'll I'll leave that alone as well. So, with that um I'll take any questions. >> I'm good. Thanks, Bob.

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>> Yeah, I don't have anything for you. Thank you very much. We'll see you later. >> All right. And that's going to bring us to the to the the highlight item of the night. Item 18. Authorize the renaming of the Lakeside Community Center to the Allen Green Center.

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I never heard of the guy. Tell me a little bit about him. >> Good evening, Mayor and Council. Susalla, parks and recreation director. So on January 20th, the parks and recruit advisory board had a meeting and they wanted to recommend a change of the Lakeside Community Center to the Allen Green Center. As many of you are aware,

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the building that was on Clyde Morris that was recently sold to Palmer College used to be named the Allen Green Center. So, they felt that due to Mr. Green's contributions to the city, um that they would like to make the recommendation to rename the Lakeside Center in his honor.

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Um if you all approve tonight, this goes to a 30-day comment period and um and then we will bring it back for execution. Uh we have some costs associated with renaming the building. It's a little under $5,000 which can be absorbed in this year's budget. So,

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that's kind of where we are and you guys know better than I, but the man behind me it was welld deserving and the board was um was very excited to be able to bring this to you. >> I I agree and and I you know

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first from just a personal perspective I'm excited to do this. My my only question and I'll give him an opportunity. he can either t talk or he can nod is I want to make sure he's okay with it because what I I know two things about this man. He has spent a lifetime

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a lifetime committed to helping build the best city possible to his core. That's what he has been about. And I know that from probably the age of five or six and running around doing things with Lance when we were kids. I've seen I've seen him out there doing the work

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himself. I've seen him sitting in this seat and these other seats up here. his his his legacy and his commitment to this city has been amazing, but I know he doesn't like to be talked about. And that's why I'm going on and on right now because I'm trying to make him be a little uncomfortable. You know, he he

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doesn't like to be bragged on, but but in in all honesty and with all respect, Mayor Green because he'll always be Mayor Green to me. And I know he likes to be he'd rather be called Allan. I got it. We got to write a book one of these days of listing all of the the oneliners coach. Yeah. You like you don't want to be his friend because he'll wear you out

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like a rented mule, right? So, what he means by that is if you're his friend, he's going to pull you over to do things for the city of Port Orange and make things happen on a on a tight budget and you're going to probably end up with more than you bargain for. But, um, so, uh, let's see how how do we want to do this? Mayor Green, would you like to

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come on up? >> If you don't mind, we'd love to hear from you. >> How about How about you myself? >> Yeah. I I I love the fact that the uh that the city clerk put you all the way down on agenda item 18. >> Past my bedtime. >> I KNOW, RIGHT? YOU got to get up in just

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a couple hours. You still get up in the morning. >> No, >> that's >> 3:00's way too late. My day started yesterday. Like your day. >> I know. >> It starts the day before. Funny, somebody brought me this. This is me.

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>> The first election. >> This is when I Tuesday, December 11th, 1979. >> Wow. >> And here here's what I my political program was. And it said believe in planned and controlled growth and we do

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it every day, right? Responsible physical management. And that's what you do every day. Just whether you go I'm a user. I have not been that bright. I did I hated school. Didn't go very often. I

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I had to recreate. My parents were gone. My sister had to get a diff a medical dictionary so I get some new diseases. I was a very sickly child. Yeah. But it but this but this community is a series of a whole bunch of great people doing

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committed to this community. >> Everyone up and down. It's like simple thing about ordinances. Where did the ordinance come for the tree? I was doing a job in Bau Beach. I went and got their ordinance. That's how we got started.

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You would go rob information. Yeah. >> And you use it. That's all you've ever done. Yeah. We go to the ballpark when we we didn't go through thing. We the ballpark. I don't know if y'all that was an incinerator. Most people don't remember that. It was

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a dump. >> So, we built ball fields. Did we get a permit? No. >> Did we use city money? No. Did we build it? Yes. Wasn't alone. Get up on a Saturday morning and go for equipment. go unlock a door, get a trailer, bring a

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dozer, bring a loader, park that, go back and get a crane. Came down and that's what we did. If you remember, we did that was when they took that dump, we had what I'd like to have someday is have a a reunion of all the kids that

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went through this programs in this city from youth to whatever it was, parents, grandparents, everybody. We used them all. We didn't have any money. I always tell the story that we got in like you you just got the

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the gym. Well, originally the mayor at that time got a a grant and they opened up. They didn't finish the building. It sat there incomplete. We had a pond. We're still digging out of it. So, we got the pond. We got this. We got all of these things. You It's timing and

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commitment. And you one person doesn't do anything. >> As you already know, if you don't have a your help, you're going nowhere. Yeah, >> it it doesn't work that way. But but when you take a group of people that love this city and are committed to it,

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you cannot beat that. So now I appreciate it. I I I remember going to I am not good at going to Tallahassee. I was not good at going to Washington. I was not going to go to Iowa for Palmer. So we flew up there. I'm not I went to

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How many of y'all went to Tallahass? Did you fly up there? >> No. No, >> I got flown up there to the house of no. >> That's all you No matter where you go, the answer is no. When you have you tried it, you get your people and the answer is no. It I would get flown up

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for the house of no. That's all. And somebody would pay me. They would go up there and that was a job. >> I didn't get paid for it, but they flew up. But you went, you stayed involved. And no is not an answer. That's a temporary answer that you can't accept.

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You're going to do it every day. But the deal with the building over here when I flew up there with Palmer, right, the deal was how much money did they contribute? Half a million a year like that. They came to me and said, "Can we take your name off?" I said, "Hos, I ain't going to give you half a million

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bucks. Take it off." >> But I appreciate it. No, but this commitment is more than me. It's a lot of people, you know. I was tell I told George who nobody knows he's passed away. We had gone, we were asked about

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how do we complete that building? Yeah. Mrs. Dicki, nobody remembers Mrs. Dicki. She she was a northerner come up created the recreational board. She came to me and told her. So we go talk to the mayor at that time about that about what we

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wanted. So that what do you where do you come from? Well, I'm on a recreational board. I just remember the mayor at that time turned over to the city manager. Do we have a recreational board? And and he says, I don't think so. Not legally. You

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they must be ad hoc. Well, George told her a little bit more country than I am. He said he said, "What? What did he say?" Said, "We're ad hoc." I said, "Yeah." George said, "What does that mean?" I said, "I don't know." George said, "I don't know either. I think I'm going to kick their butts."

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>> Thank y'all. Take care. >> Thank you. >> Good job, guys. >> We appreciate you. >> All right. So, we'll come back to council read. Anything? Uh, I don't really have any questions or anything like that. Um, I I was one of those kids that got to benefit from a lot of those

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decisions that the people Allan and all of them were working with, you know, got to go through those programs and play on them ball fields and everything else. And so, you know, I I think this is great. Isn't this a conflict of interest uh problem though for you there, Mr. Lance? >> I'm looking for reparations for slave

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labor, man. >> No. Um, the the only thing I have is a slight sidebar. I'd just be curious, you know, um, for this is more directed towards the parks and recck board, but uh, I' I'd like for them to be thinking about other people who have, uh, served

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our city for a great many of years. Um, you know, we've got some people who've been in public service for a long time and there are opportunities arising with the parks and wreck uh, bond and everything else. Um, two names that come to mind that I've had the pleasure of serving with are Mayor Bernett and also

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uh, Councilman Bastion. you know, just off the top of my head, uh, you know, our mayor here, Scott Stilter, one day he's gonna finally find something else to do, but, you know, a 20 plus year police officer, not to mention serving uh, district 4 and now as mayor. Um, I'd

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like for the parks and recck board to start thinking long term about the people who've been of service um, to this city for a long time and how we might honor more of them in the future, like we're about to do today. You could name a dugout after me because I spent a lot of time sitting on the bench.

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I >> was never really an all-star. Tracy, >> no. I think this is uh a commemorative that needs to be done. Um Allan, your vision for the last 40 plus going on 50 years of what you did for this city is

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just amazing. Um so in my mind, there's there's nothing else I can say about that. I mean visionary. >> Yeah. >> So it was >> I know you got a story. Go ahead. >> You know I do. It was in that building that that man

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>> taught me a lesson that I'll never forget and I share it all the time. I was this young guy getting involved with economic development with Chamber of Commerce. And he looked over at us at a meeting one day. He goes, "You two?" And this is another gentleman sitting next to me. Don't you all have a young family

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at home? And we looked at each other. We're like, "Yeah, we do." He goes, "What are you doing here? You go home and raise your family and then when you're done doing that, this will be here for you." And here I am today. So, your advice uh was fantastic and I appreciate it. And the timing was right.

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And uh it it's an honor to be able to put your name up there and uh and thank you for everything you did because I asked people that have moved into this city over the last 30 years, why did you choose Port Orange? and he said they they say they get off 95 and they just say it's amazing the setbacks all the

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the vision that you have with the teams that you work with over the years is why people like Adam raised a family here uh why I raised a family here and and so many people want to live here and we want to give them that opportunity the

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right way and uh I think we're going to do that led by your example so it's going to be an honor to be able to name that building after you so thank Don't mess it up. >> Again, man, I don't know what to say. You know, this is uh >> I know you're on the fence, but >> this is a man who's, you know, just he's

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shown me over and over and over again what it's what it is about to be uh about your community. Uh and it wasn't just political. I mean, back in the day, literally every weekend, we didn't go play. uh there was no place to play. But what we did was we we gathered people

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and he he gathered equipment and we went and we built the ballpark and we built this and you know and I can I can attest to uh there was a point in time where he we basically shut the company down so he could go take a hundred volunteers and go build the all children's park you know and like that was the only project

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in the company at the time but no but um just years and years of um wisdom and knowledge and planning and never taking no for an answer. uh when it comes to the city. Now, I tried to say no, but it didn't work for me. But, uh again, you

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know, my dad's not about uh about accolades, you know, he's about uh results and uh and I think this is just a good honor for him and uh and our family as a as a whole. So, thank you, Dad. >> I you know, there's not a whole lot else

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that can really be said, Alan. um you you you are a fixture in our city and you have been for decades and decades and decades and and it's not lost on me that that not only was I the the the benefactor of a lot of the hard work as

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a child in this city but I got to raise my kids who now have my grandkids and they're benefactors of that. Um and and I know that you know now you not only have kids and grandkids a great grand

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great great grandkids. And so you know my support for this tonight is more than just for you. It's for your family. It's for the green name. It's for the legacy. I want your grandkids and your great grandkids and

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great great grandkids to see that name on that building and ask those questions and and and stories be resonated and and and for for legacies way beyond my years and your years and uh and so it's an honor to be able to do this tonight.

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Thank you for not trying to talk us out of it. Um I thought it was going to be like a 4-1 vote, but I think we got Lance maybe locked in. So, anybody from the public wish to speak on this topic tonight? >> I think we've covered it, right? All

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right. Back back to council. Council, last bite of the apple here. Um, the only thing I would say uh Sue is just an idea. We don't have to do it this way, but we have a lot of stuff coming up for Fourth of July. And somehow I would love to incorporate this uh because I know so

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this has got to come back to us in 30 days, right? So somehow I would love to be able if we can do it to incorporate this. I don't know if the signage would even be ready by then and it may not be but somehow I want to make sure that in my comments on Fourth of July or any

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opportunity that we can have that we do something uh that that is worthy of this while we have so many people in our great city in one place at one time. So if we could incorporate that, I'd be appreciative of that. >> Amanda, I'm going to have you call the role on this. >> So we got a motion. Can I Mr. Mayor? Mr.

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Mayor, if I could, I'd like to make the motion to authorize the renaming of the Lakeside Community Center to the Allen Green Center. >> Second. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. How about a roll call? >> I'll call. >> All right. >> Councilman Foley, >> yes. >> Council Ger, Councilman Green, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Krebs, yes. Mayor

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>> Stner, yes. 50. Congratulations, my friend. Appreciate you very much. >> I love the fact they made him wait the whole meeting. Item 19, uh, city council committee reports. Vice Mayor, you're the only one tonight. What do you got on your flag or

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TPO? >> A TPO meeting was dealing with the discussion of the 2026, uh, budget for fiscal TPO. Uh, they're going through and just approving that. Uh, my first sit in for this session, it was actually

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uh, pretty uh, interesting how that worked out, but otherwise it was pretty easy. >> That's it. >> Very good. Anything else to come before us tonight? Have a great night. Stay with my