please rise for invocation by Pastor Nathan Bucher of Victoria's Life Church followed by pledge of allegiance pastor thank you for coming absolutely mayor and Councilman and city officials thank you for the honor of praying for your uh meeting this evening i also want to pray
for you and your families if you would allow me to yes sir let's pray father thank you for this meeting we do ask that you would come we ask that your presence would give wisdom and counsel to these men that have stood in the gap for this city we thank you for all their
yeses for their famil family's yeses for their children we're asking that you would bless this evening's meeting we're asking that you'd bless their families and bless God Lord their futures lord thank you for this great city we pray that you would bless Lord the future of this city and that your favor would be
upon it we ask it in Jesus name amen amen thank you pastor i pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and
justice for all clerk call the role please councilman here councilman Gford here councilman Green here mayor Grubs here mayor St here we have a forum all five in attendance item four public comments on
consent agenda items only where's Robert i was just giving that just making sure he's not sitting in a corner where I can't see him so all right no comments tonight one second here we do have some resolutions on
there wow 20 pages are a challenge tonight can I get a motion to approve consent agenda items um point of order mayor we have recognitions and proclamations this evening we have a uh citizen accommodation award
to be presented number five it's a weird weird configuration isn't it it is yeah all right well we'll pause talking about consent agenda items maybe the folks can help come up with some ideas on that um
Chief you want to come on down we'll come back to consent agenda items you generally want to go you know like open like opening a door you can't walk through order though chief good to see you tell us about item five good evening mayor vice mayor council members city uh
city manager city attorney department heads and guests could I ask Deborah Joy to please join me so uh mayor we wanted to do this at council only because it's something that uh that I see that the department sees that's unfortunately prevalent in
today's society uh last year alone 2.6 million fraud reports uh through the Federal Trade Commission over 12 billion dollars in losses uh and unfortunately Port Orange isn't immune to it um these unfortunately these predators target our
most vulnerable population our elderly people uh who are trusting who want to do the right thing uh impostor scams and the money that is lost to them either through bank transfers or cryptocurrency uh com it accounts for all losses more
than all other forms of payment or scams combined so it's it's it's prevalent and again as I said we're you know Port Orange isn't immune to it but fortunately there's people like Deborah um who are out there watching so in this particular case we saw uh one of our
unfortunately our residents here in Port Orange received a scam uh they were about to fall victim to it they went to the bank re ret um they took out $10,000 in cash and were about to put it into a Bitcoin machine when Deborah intervened
she stopped them she called the the Port Orange Police Department we were then able to talk to the couple they were still convinced that it was not a scam and that they needed to follow through with the transaction yes uh and it wasn't until the officer actually went to the bank with with the couple that
they realized that it was in fact an attempted fraud uh so the bad part with the cryptocurrency and the Bitcoin is once that money and that cash is in the machine it is gone right because this scam is probably not even originating in the United States it's coming from Myanmar Western Africa and beyond who
knows uh unlike where we're able to do check schemes and stuff that our agency can can investigate once that money hits that crypto machine it's gone so fortunately Deborah was there uh so we wanted to recognize her just for just for stepping in uh she saw what
it was she recognized it she quickly intervened uh and I said you know especially for an elderly couple to lose $10,000 like that on the spot so we just thought that uh Deborah Joy should be commended for her vigilance with the hope that everyone in the community could help stop these scams which are
increasingly victimizing our elderly and vulnerable residents and with that we wanted to present this citizen commendation uh to Deborah Joy for doing the right thing very nice [Applause] outstanding all
right yeah I work at um Oh sorry hormonal it's okay take a deep breath take a deep breath um I work at Circle K right on Dunla and in Village so right around the corner and I see this way too much and Circle K policy is it's not our
machine it's not our problem but I see it all too often and I I seen the look on her husband's face that they were going to lose a lot of money so I in good faith couldn't let that happen so I've I've stopped quite a few people but
this one that was a the most amount of money that someone that I've helped was going to lose so I'm I'm really happy that they didn't get scammed so thank you city thank you thank you very good
[Applause] deborah thank you for coming in tonight and giving us an opportunity to recognize uh a resident and and somebody who works in our city for stepping up because I will tell you we have an incredibly talented and skilled police
department oh yeah they're they can't do this on their own right the the safety of our community how we react to things and how we prevent things this this the folks that live in our city work in our city and visit our city they play a critical role you are a shining example
of that so it is so important and especially in this day and age people are so reluctant to get involved they they'll they'll put it on Facebook but they won't call the police department right they won't they won't try to get us information and they won't get involved and be a be a good witness
sometimes and but you know so so we truly appreciate this and and what you've done and I know the the victims and their families appreciate it immensely oh yeah the husband came and gave me a hug afterwards oh I bet yeah i I bet i bet so Councilman Foley uh yeah
no absolutely thank you so much for doing that it's really what makes Portor special to me is the people that actually live here and and how how well we take care of each other you know that's what makes it a community and so it's fantastic you're looking out there's a lot of scams out there i mean you know the Bitcoin one there's a new
one going around where people are getting tons of ve I got one today very realistic looking like it is from Florida Department of Transportation i got one yeah yeah i'm sure I know where they got our numbers probably right off the city website either way but hey you know you got an unpaid toll of this
amount of money and you got to click this link and you know I I've warned people just be extremely extremely cautious my father it would be the exact kind of person unfortunately at at his age who would fall victim to something like that and so that you'd be looking
out for uh anyone I would just encourage you to continue to do so and thank you very much for doing that it means a lot to know people like you are out there helping our residents thank you girls Deborah I mean what you did was a shining example of what good stewardship
is a community individual I mean it's unbelievable that you took the time because in today's society a lot of people would have just took a blind eye oh yeah i had a line of customers and I'm like you guys have to hold on like this yeah so you to be commended for what you did and and thank you from the
bottom of my heart and everybody out here because it takes citizens like we've said once before up here it takes the citizens to make this community what we are so thank you yeah thank you very much um we appreciate that and you know this hits
home to me this week with a family member who just got scammed and they got him with the uh insurance on their cell phone so it's uh it's real and it's happening so thanks for uh stepping up and and helping out
debbie when I read this I was I was heartwarmed i I got to tell you again same thing these guys said nobody wants to step up and and do anything anymore to help anybody doesn't seem like everybody wants to stay in their in their own little business and and when I read this I was like man you are awesome
and what you did is you know it might be something little to somebody but to to me it's a big deal and um I really appreciate that and I just want to say you're awesome thank you thank you for coming congratulations we appreciate you mayor can we just just read uh reiterate
then to the public as well so no federal state or local government agency the IRS to the city of Port Orange is going to ask anyone to pay a fine a bill uh in cryptocurrency or to go buy $5,000 in gift cards it's just not the way we
operate uh so if you get that and you have a concern pick up a phone call the entity that's telling you that you have to pay this amount and verify the transaction before you do anything so just to put that out there into the public so very good appreciate you thanks Chief thanks Deborah thanks again
Dean okay how about a uh a motion to approve consent agenda items move to approve consent items 6 through 11 second call the roll councilman Foley yes councilman Gert yes councilman Green yes vice Mayor Grebs yes mayor Spner yes
consent agenda items pass 5 moving on to council member comments i'm I'm going to take a liberty here first and and and go first i see we've got a bunch of students in here tonight from our ALAC program right great to see you guys but we want to see you closer so why don't
you all come on up i know you have some papers for me to sign so go ahead and bring those to do you need some more agenda items to Okay Robin's going to get them okay she'll she'll get them come on up guys come on up for just a moment mayor also we need to do public participation i
don't think we have any cards though we do not have any cards we have no publications there we go right here so you know what you're going to be the speaker for the group initially right tell us a little bit about your program and why you guys are here tonight okay well the ALAC Introduce yourself first sorry oh um my name is Norah Mahmood i'm
the president of the Academy of Law and Government at Atlantic High School um our academy is just basically about you have to learn how to be in public service and learn how to be you get to learn how to be attorneys whether it be attorneys judges uh detectives even in
the FBI regular police officers like you get to learn about every role in the public service field and we kind of we do a lot of like mock things in our school so we do a lot of mock trials we do a lot of mock um meetings and a lot
of things like that we have our own executive board in our program as well um we do like crime scene investigations like my instructor Mr long he will make like he'll get like a mannequin for like a victim or like anything like that and he'll set up a crime scene outside in
the school and he'll have us go solve it group by group and it kind of helps us a lot to learn and connect with each other learn how to communicate like how we would in the real world and these actual jobs um and every year we do like this this trip we go to CMI we go to a hotel
in CMI and we do this trip called FPSA it's called the Florida Public Service Association um it's a bunch of like criminal justice and law competitions it's really fun we actually just got back from it on Monday um but I don't know where I would be without the ALAG community i don't know where I'll be
like without all of my friends and everybody here so yeah that's really all I have to say alag is an amazing community i love Mr vera i love Mr long those are instructors and yeah how how old are you i'm 17 17 you have a gift because I will tell you there are very
few people regardless of age who have the ability to stand in front of that mic and speak as clearly and concisely as you as you do so that is a great great gift i'm not going to make all your friends get up and talk that much but I am going to have all of them come
up to the mic and just just introduce yourselves and tell us what grade you guys are all in okay thank you very much thank you oh uh good afternoon ladies and gentlemen my name is Cheyenne Herold and I'm a the junior class representative on the ALAC board excellent
hi my name is Cassidy Herado and I'm a junior excellent my name is Gwindelyn Roberts and I'm a junior my name is Gabriella Rosenberg and I'm a junior my name is Jillian Crawford and I'm a junior and I am the secretary on the ALAC class board excellent my name
is Mackenzie Carman i'm not on the board but I'm 17 in 11th grade excellent my name is Leah Craig and I am also a junior my name is Marina Franco and I'm a junior as well excellent outstanding ladies thank you guys for for coming in tonight can we just acknowledge how
awesome it is that we have a bunch of young females also being involved in this that is awesome it's outstanding so so hang out enjoy the rest of the meeting i know our assistant city manager's got some more documents you guys need i'll sign each one one for each of you guys but better than the doc is now you're going to be on the YouTube
thing so just tell the tell your your teacher hey listen just watch it on YouTube so I'll let Mr long know immediately all right sounds good have a seat thank you guys councilman Green what do you have nothing tonight nothing tonight Mr
mayor council I'm inspired we're in good hands we are right yeah for sure i have go ahead we got plenty of time okay so Parks and Recreations guys have already got the bunnies up if y'all haven't walked around the city center
there's 10 bunnies uh hidden uh that started on April 11th through the 17th uh all you have to do is come out keep track of where the bunnies are and come up back over to the Rex uh center and there's a prize waiting for you um also uh just a field note uh jazz
festival is coming up on Lakeside on uh April 25th 26th if you haven't been to that event it's pretty phenomenal underneath the stars to see all that and uh the young men and women that put that
on for us uh also a note for TPO um we have the long range paving and bridges projects that TPO for transportation uh board has for Valian Flagler County there's going to be a meeting at the Lakeside Community Center on Monday
April 21st so if you're trying to see the projects that are coming and the long range forecasting that's from 4 to 6:00 p.m on Monday April 21st and then lastly on a great highlight Memorial Park being open we now have our docks
back in and that's a that's a beautiful thing that's coming uh to a head right now that we have that uh available uh coming up soon right saturday saturday so that's that's coming up come out and
join the the parks back open that's it that's it councilman Foley what you got all right awesome uh Tracy got two of mine so uh let's see here uh I want to recognize uh Officer Jordan Snipes um if you guys saw in our
weekly um he was recognized for uh at Daytona State College for outstanding academic performance and was inducted into the Daytona College Hall of Fame um it's because he performed a life-saving first aid after an instructor was severely injured in an accident while he
was attending the academy and so I thought want to give him a shout out that was really cool also uh another officer Cody Rhett i hope I got his last name correct um he's been selected as the Valuchia League of Cities employee of the year in public safety for the entire county which is really cool i
know he was honored earlier this year um for the city of Port Orange at the chamber event but now he's being honored um for the blue city so congratulations to him think that's awesome and also Wayne whenever you get to um speak on item 14 when you do your city manager
comments uh during our uh consent agenda we approved I'm trying to make sure I have the exact information but um and you and I talked about this today at lunch but um we approved this one budget thing talking about lime disposal and I understand that this actually some of
our employees that found this it's an $800,000 savings uh perhaps um and I know we had uh Juno went out to or couple of our people went out to Colorado to see this firsthand but basically we already have the plant and changing the way we do it could save the city almost a million dollars a year and
so I want to make sure I you know highlight that and give credit to those employees uh you can't say enough it's it's a hard thing especially in today's economy with inflation it's hard on us to balance this budget and to keep you know our taxes as low as possible and
for employees to go the extra mile to find additional cost benefits to not only our city but to our residents in turn uh that's just extraordinary work and I want to make sure that we acknowledge those people and say thank you because that is really exciting
appreciate it would you want to weigh in on that at all you can go do it right now if you want yeah and I haven't had him brief me in on a couple weeks see how well I can do with the technical aspects of it but Steve Parnell our utilities director in Juno had gone out so as part of our water treatment process we end up with a byproduct of lime that that has to be disposed and it
used to there used to be a buyer that had interest and we didn't have to pay but as things have changed there was no interest so we're now paying to dispose of a byproduct and these guys staying on top of best practices around the country saw and heard of a process that changes that so you don't end up with a
byproduct you have to pay to dispose of you actually end up with sand as a byproduct so they went out and took a look at it and New Simrna is doing something similar and this test will will be a run to see if it works well if it does then we'll end up not having to pay that disposal so that's where you get that $800,000 savings you get a sand
byproduct we could use to do sandbags in the event of the storms that come so all this was was because of our staff staying on top of the right way to do things and and and from the day we had to start paying for it they had been coming in going this this bothers me uh we we need to find a way to save some
money and so that's the kind of things that they're out there doing looking for ways to be more efficient and save funds so thank you Steve and Juno appreciate that great job excellent anything else that's it thank you sir all right well you got most of mine so great great job uh the only one I wanted
to touch base on is I just wanted to publicly mention and recognize uh a good friend of the city Mark Bowling a longtime resident um he has had to uh for for for good reasons and gain but he has had to resign from our parks and
wreck advisory board and our planning commission but but it and you know he's a he's a he's kind of a quiet person he doesn't expect a lot and um he probably wouldn't want to get up here and stand in front of us tonight anyhow but you know he has served this city in a volunteer capacity for over 25 years and
that type of level of volunteer service and commitment to your to your city can't go without recognition so I just want to publicly say thank you he is moving but he's staying local okay yeah barely outside the city limits of Port Orange but but good for him and and him
and his him and his wife have a you're kind of embarking into a new chapter in in in their lives and so it's it's a great thing but I just want to say thank you to Mark uh bowling for his service to the community absolutely item 13 city attorney enough for you tonight mayor
welcome back item 14 city manager i don't have anything additional either okay thanks how about item 15 citizen advisory committee for the TPO speaking of volunteers good evening hi Ball with the CSC TPO uh we had our
monthly meeting this week and or today and unfortunately I was in Orlando watching Ian play golf so I couldn't get back in time for for the meeting so I'll stand up here for another 30 seconds and get you on the next item if that's all right how about we keep you in place and we move on to item 16 parks and recreation advisory board i'll also copy
you on the summary that the staff gives out so perfect uh we did not have an agenda tonight for the parks and rec board meeting okay and so uh and and you mentioned Mark mark's one of two resignations so we need to have two two spots filled by July 15th if that's possible i I did tell Mark I said after
25 years of service you don't get to just exit the board you have to now go recruit people to be on the board so I have challenged him with that and I know he'll he'll look for some some great folks that that may want to serve that to I got a couple people as well that I'm trying to work over yeah good good
good we appreciate you thank you very much my friend thanks Bobby i guess I should have asked anybody got any questions for Bobby while he's up here no we're good all right moving on to item 17 second reading of ordinance number
2025-11 mr attorney an ordinance of the city of Port Orange County Florida approving the first amendment to the master development agreement for the summer trees plaza plan commercial development to allow additional commercial uses consistent with the uses allowed in the city's conventional commercial zoning districts and update signage and architecture requirements to
be consistent with current land use land development codes uh prior for providing for repeal of conflicting ordinances severability and an effective date can I have a motion please i go ahead and uh move to approve um
ordinance number 2025-11 second a motion and a second any comments from council on this second reading second reading good any comments from the public on this item oh back to council last bite call the role
councilman Foley no councilman Gert yes councilman Green yes vice Mayor Grubs no mayor Soner yes 32 item 18 first reading of ordinance number
2025-12 an ordinance of the city of Porsche County for zoning property consisting of approximately 1.23 acres from planned commercial development to professional office authorizing revision of the official zoning atlas and providing an effective date
welcome my friend evening Tim Burman community development team um typically every two years we bring kind of a series of resonings before the council here uh this is similar to what we've done in the past where we have outdated PCDs that were established in the late 80s
early 90s that have unique requirements that don't really fit with the current standards in Port Orange and also have a set of uses that do not comply with um basically the requirements of Port Orange in terms of the uses that are up to date then um so the first property that we have is the Regency
um basically PCD there it's at the uh off of Nova Road this property is currently a PCD from the late 80s and has a very limited amount of uses that can be permitted on it then so as basically people try to get developed in this multi-tenant building um unfortunately staff has something to say
no because those uses are not listed in the MDA so what we like to do is take this PCD reszone it to professional office which is basically the zoning that should be in place on this property and that way it uses all the city current code requirements and the uses that are allowed in the professional office district property has future land
use of commercial so the zoning is appropriate for that and also too the properties in front of it then too were also former PCDs that we have changed to commercial zoning um so staff is recommending approval of this request this is a very unique piece of property and businesses in there because if you
don't know it's there you're not going to know it's there because it doesn't have any frontage on the main arterial road but there's been a lot of great little business a lot of startup businesses that needed a very small place to get off the ground and and this has provided that over the years so it is a very unique location and this seems
pretty reasonable mayor we didn't do a motion before i was Yep my apologies can we get a motion to put this on the floor for discussion get a motion for 2025-12 second we have a motion in a second councilman Foley i don't have any questions on this
one like you said most people wouldn't even know it's there um and you know to me these two zonings are are very similar so it's just a kind of moving things forward and update it's more of an update i would almost consider it to
be ministerial time councilman Grubs I agree with Councilman Foley it it's it's an update uh that will actually help the area and the business itself i have nothing councilman Green this property has been around as long as you
have i know it anything no I have nothing okay anything from the public any comments on this particular item no back to councel no further comments thank you call the role
councilman Foley yes councilman Keer yes councilman Green yes vice Mayor Greg yes mayor Sman yes 5 item 19 first reading of ordinance number 2025-13 an ordinance of the city of Port Orange County Florida reszoning property
consisting of 5.3 plus or minus 5.38 acres from planned commercial development PCD to commercial community commercial CC authorizing revision of the official zoning atlas and providing an effective date thank you can I have a motion to put this on the floor get a motion for 2025-13 is that to motion to
approve approve okay second i have a motion in a second great tim uh Tim Burman similar to the last property we talked about this is another PCB from back in the early 1990s and that is basically this Ritters went out of business and development started
coming in for this property we noted there was quite a bit of unique um requirements on here that um staff were having to enforce like specifically only using a certain color blue which they no longer make um so the basically proposal here is to um change this to community commercial um allow for basically to
follow the development requirements to land development code along with uses of community commercial which is consistent with the area there in terms of that commercial node at Herbert Street and um Clyde Boulevard then so staff is recommending approval of this resoning request
all right we'll start on this end so so that little area like we were when we were doing some projects every little area had a theme so you're saying like the blue roof theme is out in this little area and it can change colors and change looks and all that or That's
correct then basically that was um they property here for lot two and lot one has to follow the exact same color requirements um and all when we start looking at what those color requirements are basically that color blue the paint manufacturer say we can't even make that um so that and then we have a code that
says that has to be in place and so you put a staff in a bind there this had unique requirements like the picnic tables had to be painted a certain color so there are a lot of unique requirements that basically we don't have here in Port Orange and other properties there still is that overall general consistency with the
architecture on the properties here which will have to apply here on this one if lot one is ever developed but in terms of making sure it's the exact same color material and stuff like that then um this MDA kind of went to extremes on that then and we're just looking to basically allow the current codes that are in place throughout Port Orange
apply to this when it comes to architecture but no specific theme color or anything like that required but if they came in there and want to change the color of the plaza they would need to come through well this only thing of changing is lot two and lot one lot two is where Ritters used to be and then lot
one is the vacant lot to the north of it and lot three which is I think the multi-tenant building that is not that will remain in the PCD so that will stay by itself then it's not part of this request okay all right good thanks nothing makes sense to me i'm good
council Foley Zilch anybody in the public have any comments on this item see none back to council last bite call the role councilman Foley yes councilman Gert yes councilman Green yes
vice Mayor Gross yes mayor Stner yes 5 thank you Jim jim I give you a bonus points for not using the phrase "It painted us into our corner." [Laughter] All right item 20 city council committee
reports first step shelter yes so last night we met uh at the shelter itself and uh I'll tell you um a lot of conversation about support for the shelter came up uh future funding there are some you know the way the shelter's
funded is through the county and the municipalities that are around it and uh there was a lot of discussion about well if the city only sends two people there a year is it really worth being a part of it and and and I I kind of this this
first step shelter is a necessity uh for this community not just Port Orange but Val East Valuchia County even West Valuchia County as a whole uh the people that uh actually end up there are people that
uh are not your typical pan handler type that you see that we're all kind of worried about on every corner in Valia County right now uh the people that are utilizing the services that are provided there are trying to get in a better situation with their life they're being
sheltered they're being fed and they're also being led and that's the important part about uh us supporting and continuing to support this first step shelter they have a uh a great rate of
uh success in taking someone out of the shelter and finding them permanent housing in the 90% uh so some fantastic success stories coming out of it it's only five and a half years in in service and the numbers
went from 60 on average to almost 100 and I just see a lot of wonderful things coming out of there uh so um I I encourage our support to continue when it comes up to talking about that in the budget and I would encourage additional
support as well because u it is helping so I'm sorry before we move on so so the numbers and the percentages that you talk about actually are working by design because the reality of it is is that before this program existed there wasn't a lot of resources there were
some but they were very minimal and very limited and the way this works is when law enforcement and other folks out on the street encounter and interact with people uh that are homeless that need this kind of support they can decline it and overwhelmingly they do and I know
that you know initially like we used to look at that we were so disappointed that we you know we offer this service to a hundred people and maybe four take us up on it maybe yeah but the reality of it is is what you're talking about is those four that took it up on it really wanted the assistance they wanted the
guidance they wanted to to better their situation what you don't want is to fill these shelters with people who really don't want to do that they just wanted a you know a shower for the night or whatever and so you know by design it is working where the folks who do want that
service who do want that resource um it's it's an option for us now and for them and the success rate for the ones that do go and take take up the resource is really it's hard to argue with i mean the success rate is really good so I also want to bring up the fact that
because this came up um where u someone did a citizen ride along program and they came across 20 people and it was for 20 on getting them to go out to the shelter well guess what there are people going out to the shelter that aren't being encountered by a police officer
it's not just designed for that so if you use that as a number that hey that's not that's not helping our city because not enough people want to take advantage of when we encounter them that's not a good scale to use to say if it's successful or not right it's an option so here my question back to that person
was hey listen let me ask you this if all 20 decided they needed the help and we didn't have it where would you put them where would we put them okay they also uh approved a three-year uh employment agreement with their
executive director uh so that passed last night so uh she can go and and work and uh continue to do her good work good how about uh some information on Port Orange South Dakota Chamber of Commerce the most important thing about the Port or South Daytona Chamber tomorrow night
they have open to the public is a tasteful affair where local restaurants will be showcasing what they do in their restaurants at the Riverside Pavilion and that's open to the public i believe it's $35 a person and it's it's a fantastic fun time it's going to be beautiful weather and the food's always
great so you want to participate that uh 5:30 yep yep that's all I've got anything else to come before us tonight no good to see everybody have a great evening thank you