Please rise for silent invocation followed by a pledge of allegiance. Amen. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Clerk, call the role. Councilman Foley here. Council Ger here. Councilman Green here. Vice Mayor Gross here. Mayor here. Everybody is in attendance tonight. So, we're going to move right on to item four and welcome Senator Tom
Wright all the way from the the hallowed halls of Tallahassee. Right. Wow. Actually, from my house, 14 minutes from here. Tell your wife we appreciate her giving you a pass to get out for a few minutes.
She said I can only have 15 minutes. All right. Welcome, sir. Thank you all for having me here tonight. It's always a pleasure to be here in Port Orange to celebrate these important investments in this community. The projects that we're going to recognize tonight reflect exactly what happens when state and local leaders
work together to identify urgent needs, smart solutions, and put the resources to work where they will make the most difference. As you all know, Port Orange and neighboring communities have faced serious challenges in recent years from flooding that's
and major from excuse me from major storms that strain our critical infrastructure here in these communities and it serves thousands of people that we need to help. So these projects are about building resiliency, protecting our neighborhoods and ensuring that the waterways and the environment are
safeguarded for generations to come. What makes today's occasions really meaningful is not just the check itself, but that the commitment that it represents. And these investments will help prevent future damage, protect families, and give our city and its partners the tools they need to meet
tomorrow's challenges head on. So, as you know, I'm honored to provide you with a check tonight for $4.4 million from the state of Florida. Yeah. [Applause] report check for the mayor. Here it is.
Get that big check, Mr. Mayor. [Laughter] I want to get that deposited quick just so we know it doesn't have my phone number.
Thank you very much. We appcate all That's awesome. [Laughter] You don't mind if I just Yeah. You know that looks too good not to have several months. Yeah.
Councilman Green, go right ahead. Uh Mr. Wright, I just want to say thank you very much for all your hard work and your support and uh everything you've done out there. I know it's uh I know it's a challenge because there's only so much money to to hand out, but uh what you did for Port Orange uh is greatly
appreciated. And again, uh we'll see you next year. Thank you very much. Thank you. Yeah. Once again, Senator, thank you so much for all you've done over the years. This is it, right? One year left. One more year. All right. We need you again. We'll see you next year. Yes. But thank you very
much. And next time, can you get one that'll fit in the ATM to check? Well, that's why we do the big checks. They don't clear. Thank you, Grace. Senator Right. Thank you very much. I know you fight for us all the time and this year especially u you know as good
as all of us as far as the flood and the mitigations and everything that we're up against. So, every dime but 4 million. Wow. Thank you very much. You're welcome, sir. You know, Senator Wright, um your service has been greatly appreciated to our city over the years. I knew you and
I were going to get along from the first time I stepped into your office in Tallahassee and we both had on cowboy boots and I knew it was going to be the start of a great friendship. But no, in all seriousness, um the the ability for you to use state resources to help us uh when we need it most here is so
important for our community and thank you for doing that. You know, a lot of times uh at every level uh doing this job is is one that's pretty thankless. Uh, but we are grateful on behalf of all 60 plus thousand residents, not to mention our businesses, that you go up there and you serve and you take time
away from your family to represent the people that you care about and the community and the neighborhood that you live in. Thank you for bringing this money back for us to be able to use it. Um, and and we can't really just can't say thank you enough. This is a lot of money. Four $4.4 million is not a small
uh bucket of water that we're going to be a no pun intended that we're going to be able to do with this. So the resiliency with everything with the flooding and all these major events, thank you very very much to you and your team and your staff uh and to our staff for all that they did. Wayne and you
know you guys worked really hard and I just and if it's okay I wanted to add so one of the things I think for council and the residents know about Senator Wright. So we go up there and visit with council members and we visit lots and lots of people and sometimes you're in and out real quick. Senator Wright had
us in his office. We were well over half an hour and not only were we in there, normally we go in and explain our projects and they're somewhat technical. Senator knew what our projects were and sat there and engaged with our engineer Juno Reed. We were going to give him an honorary engineering title because of
because and all I think we must what 15 16 different places we visited during those days and and the most thorough knowledge and understanding of the requests that we had were the time we spent with you. So, we we did a lot of talking to a lot of people and appreciate someone that put that much time into understanding what we were
asking for. Thank you very much. We um we we kind of went back and had staff take a look and and we could not find any single time in in the history of our city and the relationship with the state that we've been able to receive this kind of funding at this
level. So, this is definitely a record for us. it comes at a very uh much needed time and um as you know with past projects that you have supported we will not hesitate to get the money where it needs to be get the projects going as fast as possible that's a critical part
I just want to echo everybody else's statement center right you know one of the things that people don't realize is the complexity of how things work in Tallahassee and it's not easy um and but you you and your staff make it very
welcoming for our staff and folks like ourselves to get up there and navigate the process. You know, you obviously as well as as Representative Chase Traymont, huge supporters of Port Orange. We know that we're going into to friendly places, but we also know you
guys have to have help as well. And so, the just the process of you guys helping us navigate that, pointing us in the right direction, keeping the ear open. In fact, last year, and I'll have the city manager just if he could touch back on uh what happened to us last year was
we got pointed in a direction that maybe we had not been fully, you know, aware of and we received a tremendous opportunity to go and get additional funding. You want you want to just mention that? I don't know who we had a chance last year to say that to the resilient Florida funds where where
storm water money. So, so legislative appropriations is one way to to to find state funding, but the there are different other funding sources and resilient Florida was structured and and the leaders in Tallahassee and the senator in particular were helpful and saying, you know, if you really want to get a lot of money for your storm water,
go out and do a vulnerability assessment and then start applying for resilient Florida. And because of that, we jumped on it in the last meeting. We had the presentation on that. We have already applied for a resilient Florida grant as a result of that. So, thank you very much. So, that just goes to show like
you guys helped get us pointed in the right direction and and from what we've seen uh and we're proud of this. We seem to be a little bit farther along than a lot of municipalities across the state of Florida. So, we are grateful for that. We're grateful for the relationship, your friendship, and your leadership in Tallahassee. We are
certainly grateful for this check tonight. So, again, thank you very much on behalf of all of the residents of the city of Bunch. You're my It's my pleasure. And it will clear the bank, just so you know. We just we just like to make a little bigger presentation so you can put it where you want to hang it on the wall somewhere wherever. But
um last thing is is it won't be long. We'll be doing our budget requests again. So don't be bashful. It's it's almost time to start doing them for next year. How about that? October 6 is our first committee day already. When is it? October 6. Coming quick.
It's coming quick. Yeah. So thank you very much for being here tonight and giving us your time. You're always welcome. Thank you, sir. Thank you. All right, moving on to item number five. Public comments on consent agenda items only. There's a bad echo on this.
Robert, come on. Welcome. Thank you. Good to see you, mayor, council members. Robert Reinhagen, 1425 Dexter Drive North, Port Orange. Um, this has to do with the item eight on
the agenda, Webster Creek Mitigation Bank Wetlands. And it talks about um we have to send money to the St. guns water management district for a uh potential problems
that they anticipate such as the loss of uh oyster clam habitat and um mangrove dist disturbances. Now, I know it's kind of late in the game, but because you got a short time frame,
but it seems that when we were doing the planning, we should have been able to take care of some of these things like maybe plant mangrove somewhere else or something or do something to make sure the oyster beds weren't disturbed or whatever. But just it just seems that we
could have done more. But more than that, I'm really concerned and feel uncomfortable with the fact that the St. John's Water Management District is directing you where to put the money. Um, it would certainly seem better if we
could do something here in Port Orange with that money. Thank you. Thank you, Robert. Appreciate you. All right, moving to item B. We are going to recess temporarily as the
council and open up a joint meeting as the council and the CRA for a special meeting. Looks like I will be running that. All right. Can the clerk call the role for the member members of the Eastport Business Center community redevelopment?
Green here. Here. Scott here. Grubs here. Chairman Sean here. All right. All in attendance. Can the clerk call the role for members of city council? Councilman Holey here. Councilman Gford here. Councilman Green
here. Vice Mayor Gross here. Mayor's here and everybody for the council happens to be here as well. Are there any objections to the notice of the meeting? Hearing no objections, the meeting notice is accepted. I will be opening the item for
presentation by staff with joint discussion by the council and the CRA. Chairman Gford will call for the vote later in the meeting here by the CRA and I will call for the vote by the city by the city council. Item number two is the approval of Salty
Marine Services Incorporated doing business as STO Daytona Pon New Simra Economic Incentive Agreement as it relates to Eastport CRA redevelopment plan and LDC chapter 20 targeted businesses. May I have a motion and a second to put this item on the floor?
Make a motion to move to approve the economic incentive agreement for Salty Marine Services Inc. a Florida corporation doing business as Sito Daytona Pon New Simrna and authorize the mayor and the city clerk to sign the agreement. Second.
We have a motion and a second as we need separate motions, right? As a council right now, we need one as a CRA. Yeah. Uh chair, Mr. Chairman, you're not going to be able to make that motion for the CRA. Yeah. Okay. So, I need a same motion and a second for the CRA.
Same motion. Second it. Have a motion in a second for the CRA. All yours, my friend. All right. Tim Bourbon, Community Development. The request is for economic incentive agreement um for the Seope um company. They're looking to relocate
into the Eastport Business Park on a lot there. The economic set agreement is structured to assist with the cost needed for the permitting fees and relocation of gopher tortoises on the site. Then um as it indicated in the report, basically the intent is to make that their regional headquarters. Uh
they'll have a y layown yard and storage yard along with a building developed in the future for the company there. They do um STO services for Valuchia County, Flather County, Bvard and are expanding other counties along the coast here for uh boat salvage, boat repair um and um
boat onwater services that uh so this is basically aligned with what the Eastport CRA is intended for to assist uh projects here um there. Uh when we initialed the first site design work on the site, that's when we discovered a significant amount of golf courses on this 1.4 acre site. Um there's about 26
burrows on 1.4, which is extremely high for a site that small. Uh so this was not accounted for when they first did the initial site plan or started the site plan work then. So in order to kind of keep moving forward with the project, they wanted to try to get this these costs um at least covered here. event.
The way the agreement is structured is that the permitting must be done. The relocation must be completed. It must be approved by Florida Fish and Wildlife prior to the reimbursement of the funds then. And typically when you have the good tortoises relocation that is right when the start of site construction
going on. So this would be probably something with you know if this gets approved their intent is to move forward with getting the site plan approved and be ready to go under construction and then would start to go for tortoise permitting process and relocation process. Uh staff is recommending approval and the applicant is here too
to discuss the request and also their business proposal coming into Port Orange. All right, hang on. Talk. Let's see if anybody on council or CRA has any questions. We'll start with council me. Do I got to be a different seat? No, you can. You can stay right there. Okay. So, so you're saying there's 28
roughly 28 burrows. Let's just say so it's 20 turtles maybe at how much per turtle? 6,500 bucks. This is basically utilizing the city's um bank there which is $800. It's $800 per turtle to relocate them to the city's property.
Yes. There's also basically all the the um the fees associated with that too and the um equipment operator there was calculated in that cost then. Okay. Anything else? Yep. I have no question. Do do you have a total number that what
the what we're looking here to wave? What's what's like overall what it all adds up to? 20 28,000 is what we estimated at basically there. I think it was around 27,000 there. We just round it up then. And then of course if it's less than that then then we would only reimburse
that amount that it's more than the applicant would be required to pay the difference. Anything else? Anything else from you? No. All right. Is there anybody in the public that would wish to comment or speak on this? Seeing none final comments back to the
CRA and council. Go ahead. I I have uh the the issue I have with this is is is one thing. Um, and again, I'm very much for the incentive, don't get me wrong. Um, I would like to see this reimbursement be done when they get a CO, okay? I don't want to go out there
and clear a site and then somebody walk away and be and have paid this money to move to move turtles that and and maybe they walk away. I believe that this is is is a great incentive, but it should be reimbursed at CO when it's similar to
the one we just put at Ridgewood and Dunlot. They built the building and got everything done and then came and asked for the credit and and that's I feel the same way about this one is that uh it should be credited at CO and not just at land clearing myself. That's just me. Okay.
Sean, it's not an unreasonable request. I mean, if if things go south on the deal, then we're looking at a vacant lot. We just paid for turtles to be removed and then next thing you know, we got them back again. We're doing it all over again.
So, it's good thought. Anything else? Nope. I'm good. read. I hadn't thought of that, but I actually think Lance brings up a good point. I think that's a a little bit of a good faith kind of mindset, which I believe
they applicant has that, and I I think they're going to go through with this. It's not really It's probably a mute a moot point at the end of all of it, but I I think Lance has a very a very good point in that regard. Wayne, is there anything procedurally on that if they want to amend the motion
uh to do it that way? No, sir. You're allowed to do that if that's what you prefer. Okay. All right. Do Do we need the motion amended though in order to Let's uh Well, let's hold on. We'll give the applicant a chance to come up and talk and then we'll come back for that one. Does the applicant want to speak?
You knew we had to get you up here, right? Yeah. I thought I was going to get away with it. Um good evening, council. Um thank you for hearing this proposal. Um we're excited to um continue to grow in this community. Um very happy to call Port Orange home. You know, I'm a
graduate. My wife's graduated Spruce Creek High School. We've been in the community for a long time. Um there's many places we can go, but I prefer to stay here. Um Eastport is an opportunity um to bring some growth to that area
that's long needed it. Unfortunately, we found Jurassic Park back there with all these turtles. Um can you introduce yourself? Sure. My name is Nick Foster, president of Salty Marine Services, C30 Tonics, New Simrna. Um, so that's sort of the
situation we have. Um, I don't disagree with the CO portion. Um, I would ask maybe that we can figure something else out. As far as that's concerned, the value here in this ask for us is the use of
the city's turtle mitigation bank. Normally turtle mitigation is anywhere between 6,500 to $8,000 a turtle. So if you have 20 turtles, your project just turned into 160,000 $160,000, you know, adventure to get these things
um removed so that we can begin construction. Um our plan is sort of a crawl, walk, run plan. Um we're working with Bobby Ball at Zev Cohen. Um, as far as our site work goes and part
together a plan for us, we currently rent inside Eastport now. Um, and so what we want to do is we want to clear the site first um get fencing up um so that we can move equipment in and then over time slowly start working on what
our needs are going to be as we start continuing to grow and regionalize. Um, we're looking to we're going to have the uh um if everything goes properly within the next 60 days, we're going to be see Jacksonville as well. Um
that will be run out of Eastport Parkway Business Park. Um so we've got a lot of things kind of moving forward concurrently. Um to begin construction with 18 months is not a problem, but to have a CEO in 18 months is not probably going to be reasonable at this point.
So, um, I'd like to maybe reconsider or talk about different ways that we could, you know, once the site is cleared, fenced, um, and we move in at that point, whether that's okay. Are you looking for a completed building within 18 months to
Well, I don't I mean, I'm not Yeah, kind of. I guess I am. I'm looking at a finished product myself. Yes. I mean, in reality, we're looking at $25,000, right? I mean, that's what we're really talking about here. That's a drop in the bucket for this project is all I'm getting at. And again, I I I'm all about the incentive and I'm all
about you moving in here and us doing what we can do. Uh but again, at the same time, I just you know, I have to be reserved with where I am as a builder. I I know how things go and you know what I mean. I know this is some upfront money for you, but if we could assure you that
you got it at the end, you know what I mean? Well, can we go ahead because I don't know the process of the turtle mitigation bank and how that works, but do we have access to the city's turtle mitigation bank? Yeah, I think was one thought is locking in the spots to make sure that they
don't get used by someone else in the interim. Correct. Tim Tim may have more followup on that. Yes, that's correct. Yeah. So, so you can you can authorize them to hold the spots for a certain amount of time. Uh, and that way he's guaranteed those spots and then he would pay if if you want to do something like
that because we we're we're about out. We're in the current phase that we have. We're getting close to to full. So really, I mean I we want your turtles import orange, too. So yes, but if we can put them in our bank and again assure him that you know
when when the time comes we're in to build that he can go put them in our bank and when it's all said and done, we give you the credit. Well, the turtles are maybe I'm misunderstanding. Tim, you can come back up here with them if if that works. You stay. Um, so I I guess maybe what I'm
trying to figure out in my mind is so you got a clear part of the property, you're going to have to fence it. Do the turtles all have to be gone before that occurs. Yes. Correct. The turtles will be removed first. Then basically they need to be Yeah. So what we'd have in this case is since it's basically going to be the yard which is simply going to be the buffers, fencing
and the uh driveway and then the yard material in there will be a site plan. And so for this project we would basically issue a completed site site plan approval through the inspection process that would basically have your essentially developed site then. So if you're looking for a mechanism to reimburse it when the site is developed
and ready to be used, it would be basically staff's approval of the site improvements and or the site plan. So, so your suggestion, if I'm understanding correctly, would be not at CO, but at site plan, right? Because phase two is a CO phase two of the project. We we're putting on a concrete pad first
and then eventually building eventually come in here and the building is what gets the CO the site if there's no building on it, we can't issue a CO then so we tie it to kind of the approval pro process and that would be the essentially the site inspection for the site improvement. So your your recommendation would be to
do it at the time of site plan approval. So once the basically once the concrete pads down okay because once we get that approval you can start using that to store the boats um operate out of there then so that would be a occupied use site for business then
so my question to you is then uh Mr. Foster, once we do a site plan, we get the concrete poured, what are you looking at timewise, 24 months, 36 months to have a building up and erected? You know, in a perfect world, it'd be it
happened, you know, as soon as possible. Correct. Um, we we would like to move forward as quickly as possible. I think, you know, 24 months, 36 months is a reasonable time period for the building to get up. Obviously, we're going to have to go out and start um getting bids
from contractors. Um there's wild price changes as far as price per foot building goes at the moment which is what has kind of stemmed development in that area. I'm familiar right now. My question then, Lance, is if we go in and we
approve it now with a contingency of CO being completed within 36 months or having for forfeite back and trying to have something done in 36 months, having it that way, that way he can move on with the project. Can I ask a question? Can I interject?
So, walk me through this again. You're going to do an ABC permit. what you're saying we will be doing a full site plan engineer drawing will be submitted there okay that will then be issued in terms of site construction permit then and they will go ahead and do the site improvements
that's that's a so it's clearing it's clearing it's underground it's all that you're saying yes it's all that then and and concrete on the site yeah if there's yeah concrete the apron into the site will be basically part of that but just not the building pad is that what we're saying
building pad not yet because they don't know exactly where the building is going to go on the site. So that will come as a modification down the road then. Okay. So you're saying site plan approval, but now you're not know where the building's going. I'm getting again I'm the site plan in order to develop the site in order to basically put the the
driveway in the buffers, the required fencing around it, establish the yard in terms of the material for that then and the gradient associated with that. Any type of grading for swailes that requires a site plan engineered drawings that will be required by him to show us those improvements for the yard. Okay,
we will get that. We will review that. That'll be approved. Once he's ready to go to construction, that's when the gopher tortoises will have to be relocated and basically we will move he will move into construction doing all those improvements then. And then once those improvements have been completed, staff will go inspect them, make sure
that they're done per the plans. And if that's done, we will basically issue the site inspection has been completed. The site has been built per plans. It's been approved. He can use it as a CTO yard moving forward. That would be completion of the project then.
Okay. I'm working basically two separate projects. You've got a a yard and a building. The building is a future enhancements to the lot. So then for council your question is do you want to offer the incentive at the completion of the yard without a new
building being built as I'm getting more confused and Tim I'm sorry but um now you got two different projects is what we're saying. And so you're going to use it as a yard, which does that meet the zoning of what we're doing down there? He can use this yard without any building.
One of the permitted uses in that zoning district is impound lot. Oh, okay. So, it is a permitted use in there and it's part of one of the targeted businesses on that. So, it complies with that requirement there. Okay, perfect. Thanks. I'm good. Did you need to weigh in? You kind of had that look on your face a second ago
like Yes. At some point here, I just want to make it clear for the for the agreement. have to revise this agreement if there's going to be conditions. I just want to trying to take it all in. I So I understand. I get it and I appreciate that clarification, Tim, because that like I'm okay with that
mechanism as you described it once they're ready to to basically start doing business site has been approved cuz I get that the nature of this business really isn't about the building. The majority of the business you're going to be doing forever and ever and ever really won't have that much to do with the building as far as I
understand it. But at some point, I get it. want to have offices and building space there and that kind of stuff there too. So, um and key is we're growing. So, we're kind of future planning a little bit here. It's a crawl, walk run strategy is sort of the idea. Um but unfortunately, due to
the nature of these turtles, we've got to get rid of these before we can do anything at all. We don't say get rid of relocate, but I don't want to see is us I want to see this happen. The whole point of of this is so that we can have these kind of things happen. So, I don't want to
see us hog tie your hands together and make you cash poor when you're trying to build a business in Port Orange and trying to expand on a business here. Uh, I I would like to see us I think still it's a good point that we still have to pro, you know, we have to protect the
interest of the taxpayers. So, I I think that at the completion of site plan, I I'm good with us at that point. Um, that that would be what I'd want to try to amend the motion to if everyone else is. Well, let's see if you have convinced Councilman Gford to amend his motion as
such. I'm back to where they originally came in here for. I don't think we need to do anything further. I'd call for a vote. We just leave it as is. Yep. And who was his second? I haven't had one yet. Yeah, I didn't make a motion for it. You made the motion as a councilman, not
as a CRA. Correct. Yeah. Okay. Correct. All right. Well, let's let's let's do that. Let's go down that path. Let's have a vote here and and see if we can get business done the way it is. If not, then somebody else can can make a a motion to amend. Did I do that right, Mr. Attorney?
Perfect. Okay. So, call the role for the city council on the motion. Councilman Foley, yes. Councilman Ger, yes. Councilman Green, yes. Vice Mayor Rob, yes. Mayor,
yes. Now, can I call the role for the CRA? Green. Yes. Jonathan. Yes. Scott. Yes. Yes. Yes. Both motions and seconds.
Thank you. Approved. 5. Hang on one second. You did. Um, any further business to be brought before members of the town center redevelopment, city council? Seeing none. Eastport. Eastport business center.
I'm sorry. Yeah. uh for the town center redevelopment agency andor city council. There being none, I will entertain a motion for this joint special meeting to be adjourned, but pause for one second. Anything we missed? You're good. You sure? Good. All right. I'll take that motion to
adjourn this special meeting. One thing before you walk off, Mr. Foster, I I want to point out something now that this is done is this. This is exactly what we need for the city of Port Orange. Absolutely. what we've been begging for
inside Eastport and getting development for years and years moving. This is this is incredible. You've been in Eastport for how long now? Uh, seven years. Seven years renting and now have decided
to invest into the city. So all I can do is ask that the rest of the council understand if y'all have anybody like this individual that's renting in that area. Now is the time to go over there knock on doors and go let's let's buy instead of rent because this is a prime
example. We have a citizen of Port Orange from Spruce Creek High School, you know, and and here he is investing back. He's been successful nonetheless. So he's still successful.
So, I just Yeah. So, I just wanted to say first of all, I know all that we just went through maybe not be as clear as mud, but that's okay. I I just wanted to say that we have a lot of businesses in the city of Port Orange that come to the city. They do very well here. They benefit very well, but not all of them
give back the way I would like to see. And I just want to say thank you and compliment you on your business because we are well aware that STO gives back in the community in a lot of ways. and we see you guys out there and we know what you do when you don't have to do it and
that makes a huge difference to us and we truly appreciate that. So, well, thank you. Best of luck. Absolutely. Grow, prosper, s do do things proud and esport and let's get more docs. You got it. We're working on more docs. Thanks. Thank you, Mr. Foster.
All right. Back to city council. Uh, can I get a motion to approve the consent agenda items? Move to approve items 6 through eight. A second. Have a motion and a second. We do have a have the clerk call the role.
Councilman Foley. Yes. Councilman Gford. Yes. Councilman Green. Yes. Mayor Cro. Yes. Still here. Yes. Consent agenda passes 50. Public participation non-aggenda items. How about Miss Pat Miles? Welcome. Thank you.
Good to see you. I appreciate Tell us what's on your mind about family days. Well, it just so happens, sir. Oh, I am Patricia Miles. I live at 1508 Ara Palm Drive in Port Orange, Florida. And Art House, I'm representing Art House this
evening. We are very excited to host our upcoming 29th annual street painting festival during the Port Orange Family Days. On October 11th and 12th, we will host over 40 artists from across the state to
create a live art experience for our local residents. Our wonderful mayor, Scott, has agreed to take part as our celebrity judge and select the 2025 Mayor's Choice Award. You may not know what you've asked for.
So, but we do appreciate your participation. So, um, any questions? I expect all you guys out there doing your best work. If it's not a cake, it's not a cake eating contest. I know, right?
I could I can't draw a stick figure. So, I I would like to let you know u that our summer art camp exhibit took place just a couple weeks ago, and we had over 643 artworks created by art campers ages
5 through 16. and we had over 530 gallery guests that evening. We had wallto-wall cars parked outside of the rec center. And so we appreciate especially Tracy as always
and you sir shop for for uh Scott for showing up for that evening. So again, thank you for your support for art house. Thank you very much. Council members, let's go down here and start with Councilman Foley.
Uh, just wanted to give a quick congratulations. I believe this was touched on a little bit at our last meeting, but want to congratulate our former mayor, Mr. Don Bernett, on his new position as president of the uh, South Daytona Port Orange Chamber of Commerce. Um, really excited for him. Uh
I know he's had a heart for public service since I've known him and I could have not have thought of a more fitting role for him. So if he's listening somewhere, want to say uh congratulations to him and invite him personally to come in here and uh you know keep us updated from time to time.
We'd love to see him. Anything else? That's it. How about Tracy? So uh parks and recreation. I talked about this last time and I want to make sure everybody's got it on their calendar. White Place Park, uh, September 20th at
9:00 a.m. Um, that is going to be where you get to pick and choose as far as designs and suggestions for the transformation of White Place Park. So, that is at 9:00 a.m. at the park
September 20th. Um, also, uh, the new exhibit at Art House. Um, she talked about it, but it's amazing. And I know Sean's gonna talk about it, too. Seeing what these kids did over the summer count program and all the pieces
of work from six year olds all the way to 17, it makes me feel really really bad on my skills as far as an artist. And I I agree with Councilman Foley. I can't draw a stick figure. These kids are just amazing. Um, Monday through
Friday from 11 to 5 is it during summer camp? No. Time for people to come out. Yeah. So, come out and uh and tour the exhibit. It'll be up for the next uh week or two and it's just amazing. Come
and enjoy that and then go out and patronize the uh local restaurants afterwards. And that's what I got. All right, Sean. Yeah, I want to uh say that I'm kind of ashamed to say that the first time I was in the art house was
for your exhibit and I was blown away about what we have there for young people to participate in it and the amount of artwork and the amazing artwork. I was just I was blown away. And then as as I was leaving, a friend
of mine was pulling up. we're supposed to be meeting out at the track and I'm like, "What are you doing here?" He goes, "My my granddaughter's artwork's in there. I've got to go in and and she's gonna show it off to me." And that's that's what it's all about. And I really I was just blown away about the
talent and then the just that that facility is fantastic. So, it's very exciting. And I'm looking forward to the the the artwork over Family Days. It's going to be fun. um got the opportunity to be the first customer for Beach Bros Coffee down at
the the river and uh what a a fantastic redevelopment project in this that little building. I mean, those guys uh are doing a lot there. It's a great view. The coffee was fantastic and I'm real proud of those guys for uh
investing in our community in that way. I know it's not easy. Um, thank you for the staff for filling in the ruts along Yorktown Boulevard. I heard that was completed today. I appreciate that because someone brought that to our attention uh the last meeting and you
know I I drove by there and it's really sad that that happens but it's going to happen. I'm glad we were able to address it some ways. So, I also want to say uh you know uh the events that occurred over the last couple, you know, the last 48 hours with our police department.
Obviously, something that's uh very you you see a police officer, man, just thank them for their service. The things that they're faced with, it's just unbelievable. And um you know, prayers to the families that are involved with that and chief and your staff. So, just our thoughts go
out to them. That's all. I'm going to be not so popular today, but nothing nothing different. Go right ahead. Um, I want to I guess what I want to do is I want to ask our staff and city manager and Robin is about a code
enforcement issue. I'm tired of going to the gas station and the gas station being disgustingly dirty and I go to the same gas station over and over and over and I know that it's not being maintained because I'm looking at the same crap on the same piece of concrete. I want our code enforcement to let's be
a little more stringent on these particular properties. They need to be I don't want people to pull into our city and say, "Man, this is a crappy looking gas station. It's the very gas station I go to." We need to do better at making our code enforcement be in touch with
businesses and keeping these businesses clean. You can run up and down Dunlottton right now and I'll give you a perfect example is Porton imaging has this sign out front that looks like crap. It's falling apart. Tiles on the roof falling apart. This is not
acceptable in our city. We need to do better because we don't have any more new build. So, we have got to maintain what we got. And I want to implore our city manager and our code enforcement to do better at going to these businesses,
creating relationships where we can say, "Look, you need to clean up a little bit. I don't care if it's a lot, but when you go to the same places and you see the same garbage in the same place at gas stations throughout our city, it's just not acceptable." So, I want us to do better at our code enforcement. I
know we got a full code enforcement staff now, but I want them to be more aggressive is is the term I'm saying. Uh other than that, uh the one other thing that does concern me is the YMCA agreement. I know we've all got a briefing on on that deal and uh and them
not uh being in uh agreement with their contract and uh that has a concern that uh I think we should need to all keep aware of. Okay, that's all I got. Anything else? No. All right. Um, on we touched on this the last
meeting, but I I want to honor this this person again tonight a little better. On Sunday, I had the privilege uh to attend the funeral services for our volunteer, Mary Whitmer, who who passed away recently at the age of 101. I want to
thank our police chief and his staff uh and everybody that was involved in being able to put together a celebration of life to honor Mary um and and and really going above and beyond to do that. Um, I
got to speak briefly at the celebration of life and and and you know, I wasn't sure I was going to be able to make it and I can tell you I am super glad that I was able to do it cuz I was where exactly I needed to be. Um, so one of the things we do from time to time, um,
and we'll talk more about that program in just a second, but one of the things we do from time to time is people, um, that that have served this city, we like to read the obituary uh, into the public record here on the city council dis. So, a lot of times that's going to be one of
you guys doing it, but I'm going to take this one tonight if that's okay with you guys and read the obituary. Now, born March 27th, 1924 in East Aurora, New York, and a longtime resident of Port Orange, Florida, passed away peacefully on August the 19th, 2025 at the age of
101. She was married to the late Norman Albert Whitmire. Mary Jane was the beloved mother of Holly, Carol Higgins, a cherished grandmother of Bill, Robert, Rachel, Nicole, Emily,
and Sarah, and a treasured greatg grandmother of Eden, Ava, Olivia, Joshua, Grace, Savannah, Jack, McKenna, and Mabel. She was preceded in death by her parents, Otto, and Helen, and her brothers, Kenneth, and George. Uh, Sha
Bloom. Mary Jane was a past member of the East Aurora Fire Department Ladies Auxiliary and after moving to Florida, she became a dedicated member of the Port Orange Police Department VIP organization where she faithfully served 43 years before retiring just a few
weeks prior to her passing. She also enjoyed fellowship and friendship as a participant in the Red Hat Society. Um her memorial service was held uh on Sunday, August the 31st, 2025 at Our
Lady of Lords in Daytona. Um so, you know, I just wanted to make a couple of comments about this individual because they are wholeheartedly deserved to have somebody who comes to our city and
serves in a volunteer capacity for 40 years. Let me put that into perspective for a second. 1989, June 1989, I met Mary for the first time. That was when I got hired as a 19-year-old police
officer here in the city of Port Orange. She was already there for 7 years. I think uh I think I noted that that would have made me at 12 years old when she started serving in the police department. She served under six different police chiefs in the city of
Port Orange. what we used to ask these volunteers to do. A lot of those tasks we no longer ask them to do because things change over time. But when I tell you guys, I distinctly remember 3:00 in the morning,
cold, wet, raining, working a a traffic fatality, and Mary and her husband Norman showing up, getting out of bed in the middle of the night to come down there and help us and expect nothing in return. maybe a cup of coffee every now and then, but nothing in return. Um,
just an amazing soul, an amazing person, an incredible legacy for volunteering, which brings me to the next thing. But digress for one more moment. Everybody always wants to know what's the secret to living that long. The chief and I
learned apparently it's not to miss a happy hour and have at least a genonic a day. We learned that about Mary. It's we always learn something a little bit different when somebody passes that maybe they didn't want to share. By the way, Chief, you you're welcome to come up if you have any words you want to mention. But I wanted to just talk about
the the volunteer program for a moment. The the the Port Orange VIP program or what is volunteers and police servicing is a program that she was one of the founding members of. It's been around over four decades. It is an incredible organization.
These are folks who come out there and do a lot of different things that are non-law enforcement related. They don't carry guns. They don't have law enforcement powers, but there's a lot of things that they help our organization do that benefits the residents of the
city of Port Orange. And if anybody is looking for an organization to volunteer in, it is incredibly wellrun want run. It is like a family structure in the organization to watch how these folks take care of each other and serve
together is amazing. And so you have to be 21 years of old 21 years of age. Apparently the brackets are 21 to 101. So anything there in the mi in the middle. Um but please reach out to the police department. They have an
application process. They look they like to get about 12 hours of committed time a month. Although I think that's flexible from time to time, we even have some folks that are seasonally. I I know over the years, I don't know if it's that that way, chief or not, but we've had folks that are part-time residents of Porters. They're only here for five,
six months out of the year, but when they're in town, they serve. Um, so I just wanted to put a plug in for that in honor of Mary and and that program. It is very, very important to the Port Orange Police Department to have those folks as part of our our city network.
So, next thing is next uh next week um on September 11th, the Port Orange Halifax Hospice will have a 9/11 memorial ceremony is at the Port Orange location there off of Brierwood and it starts at
8:30 in the morning. I will be attending that to uh read a proclamation from the city of Port Orange. So, if anybody else wants to attend, they're welcome to do that. And that's all I've got for tonight. Item number 12, report from Kipper Sports on the Cypress Head Golf
Course. I know you're not going to come up here and say you guys are hoping for more rain. Go ahead. Did I miss one? Just a couple manager attorney. Hey, hey, don't don't go away. This usually goes pretty quick.
I'll pass it on to anything from the city attorney tonight. Thank you. Anything on my left from the city manager? No, I don't have anything further. See what I mean? Welcome, sir. Go right ahead. Thank you. Good evening, uh, Mr. Mayor, council members. Uh, Jeff Dayton, general
manager at Cypress Head Golf Club. I'm here to report on, uh, three months of May through July. Uh, well, right now, the course obviously is under water, a little wet, past on the way in tonight. Maybe we can get a few days without rain, we'll get back, but other than that, the course has been in great shape. Uh, financially, we're doing
well. The, uh, you know, May was a little slower month coming out of busy season. and uh had a little net loss of about 2 and a half thousand, but then we picked back up in June, picked up another 12,000 to the bottom line, and then in July added another 20,000 to the
bottom. So, year to date, uh we're uh under budget revenues by 28,000, but we're still overbudget bottom line by 70,000. So, we're looking good. Uh you know, August panned out pretty well and uh September well as well. So, we're
doing well. rounds of golf are under budget by 516. We've already done 42,500 and but compared to prior year we're not right on pace for the last year. So course is looking good. When we we've learned that people will play in the heat, they can't play in the rain. It's
been it's been a tough year uh weatherwise summer summer as weatherwise, but we still hanging in there. Uh team is performing well. We've had an NPS of 91.7 through the three months, which is very high. Uh as a matter of fact, it's been tops in our company in camper sports, which is a
pretty good accolade considering all the great properties that we manage. U conditions are great. Darren Boti, our superintendent continues to although he's pulling some hairs out, he's still on management board very well, our our team is dedicated to providing the best turf conditions and uh you know, we
through that three-month period we're discussing. We had a 9.3 rating on course conditions. So again, we continue to rate better than the uh other courses in our area. Our service satisfaction 9.8 and that's just a testimony to all the great people that work there that really care about the customer's golf
experience. Um, course highlights, you know, we continue to main best-in-class course conditioning. We just won the best of Daytona again. We actually won public and private. Uh, so it's uh kind of weird, but really wanted to give one public, but people
thought we're the best private club, too. So, that'll be coming up. That's interesting. Yes. We're kind of not sure about that one because we don't want to get the wrong people the wrong impression of the silly that we are, but we'll we'll work around that. We'll figure out how to use that for our advantage. Go ahead.
So, we've had a great summer with junior play. Uh we we hosted our first ever drive ship and pub where we had over 150 juniors and families, a lot of uh junior golf events and four junior camps. So, and we continue to host Spruce Creek High boys and girls golf team. So,
they've kicked off their 25 26 campaign and they're in full swing now. So, a lot of great things going on at the club. You know, we're still in that kind of weird part of the season where we're not super busy, but we're still maintaining uh a lot of planning for the future. And heading into well, starting this month,
uh it's military and first responder appreciation month, as Cypress said. So, we're giving discounts to all active retired military and all first responders. And we're also having our September 11th salute scramble, which is sold out. 136 golfers. We got a lot of great things happening there. Going to raise a lot of money, thousands of
dollars for the Folds of Honor. So that's very exciting and that's coming up soon. But um and very exciting thing is happening uh end of the month. We're starting a bunker project. So long needed bunker renovations happening. It's supposed to start September 29th.
So we we pray that's going to continue and uh that has a 180day uh contract term, but we're hoping to knock that out in two and a half and three months and have it done by the end of the year. So, how does that affect give us an idea how
that affects play? I mean, of course, people out there playing and and doing stuff and just going working around the project. Yeah, safety's first, right? So, we're going to some some holes we can work around play around the work. Many holes will have to be closed, but we we will not have more than one hole closed
today. So, we'll figure out how we're going to market that. We might just say, "Hey, take a birdie. you get you get one guaranteed birdie per round, you know, right? So, we'll figure that out. But, uh Okay. And then we're going to get rid of three four bumpers we're getting rid of and the rest we're going to maintain uh uh
renovate the drainage and bring in new sand. So, okay, we'll figure it out. And and the golfers as they see it, similar to our uh car path project, you know, the disruption is a is a good growing pain. So, I think we'll we'll be okay. Good. And you know, fingers crossed our
contractor is going to do a great job for us. I'm sure. Yeah. Anything else? That's all I have. Anything from up here? I appreciate u Leslie reached out about me singing the anthem on the 11th. Unfortunately, I don't think I'll be in town, so we'll be able to be a part of
it, but I'm sure y'all have a great exper, you know, be a great event as always. Thank you, Jeff. Goodbye. All things golf item 13, golf advisory board report. Good to see you.
Good to see you guys. Uh Rich Lee, Golf Advisory Board. Um couple of uh quick things, I guess. First of all, I'd like to thank you all for the support for the mayor's tournament. Uh really turned out to be we haven't spoken in a long time. So, um it was it was a great tournament. Again,
big turnout. Uh a lot of money made hopefully for parks and wreck and and that will continue on. Um the uh also want to thank you and uh this may be a little premature because there seems to be confusion who I should be thanking. There's a stream that runs through the
golf course which I think most of you have have been in probably from time to time. Um but along four and running through two and along that side that got cleaned out this week uh just before all the rain came and it made an immense difference in the way the water flows
through the community. I don't know where it goes into W's edge where that ends and it looked like they didn't clean beyond the bend basically where I could see and I know they didn't clean on the other side of airport road because as I understand it that's county
responsibility. So we're hopeful that there's the flow will continue but when you look at what happened so far and all the rain that we've had the flow is really improved dramatically. So that was a really great thing. Um, the reason I say I don't know who to thank is at the meeting tonight Darren said it was
he that arranged for it. So Jeff doesn't know what he's paying for it or you're paying for it. So I'm just thankful we got um also getting some u feedback mostly from residents of the community for scum on the ponds. Our ponds really
aren't very deep and when you hit the heat that we've got and have had uh you're going to get algae build up. I mean, there's there's we've had the the people come in that help to to clear that up, but the ponds are shallow and they can only spray so much and the frequency is, you know, limited based on
regulations. So, there's not a lot they can do. Um, the one item that uh I'm a little disturbed and I'm also on the the board for the homeowners association. Jeff wanted to put some flags out for
advertising and um where he suggested they go and actually install them was on HOA property and the HOA board said we don't want them we don't want them there want them down and so I think he may
have talked to Wayne I'm not sure that he did but he attempted to put them in another location and was told that the city wouldn't allow him to put those flags out and I don't know if there's there's a particular rule or regulation that you got as to where those things
could be located, but you can guarantee that. Yeah. Okay. Um, but it would be good if they could have because they're just promotional from events that they had like they had the junior program. He really wanted to put those out to promote the fact that we got this big kid, you know, uh was a drive putt and
chip program uh for a couple of days and I really as a council member for the HOA I was disturbed by the fact that it was a four to one vote. We don't want him out there. So anyway, anything you can do relative to that that would be
helpful. Any questions, comments? Where were the signs going? Out by the road? Out by airport road? I think he was trying to put them out by the road to designate so as people going by they can see that there's a big junior program going on. But yeah, and that property right now well it is it's owned
by the HOA. That's the property out on Airport Road or William. Yeah. Right at Airport Road when you come into the community at Cypress Parkway. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. From sidewalk to sidewalk, the resident the HOA owns that property. So, there's definitely city ordinances that
will be involved anytime you're wanting to put out promotional items and signage and things like that. There's different ones for for city rightaway versus HOA properties and things like that. So, but if the if the board has any questions and needs clarification on that, we can certainly get that for you. Yeah. Um
because yeah there are some of those things that that have to be in too that has to be consistent all over the one thing do want since to thank him for bringing that up but it was the city that that cleaned a ditch with one of our contractors. So one of the things that we did this year following the hurricanes there's a number of these
canals and ditches that are very hard to get into and our equipment will occasionally get in there and get broken and then not be able to work for a while. So, we brought in contractors to help us in some of the more difficult areas and that's one of the more difficult ones to get to and so public works is responsible for having someone
get in there and do that. Really good timing. So, thank you very much for bringing that up. That was that was a big thing for them to get in there and do that. Yeah, good deal. So, you won't get a bill. How many did y'all collect? Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure there was.
And how many of them had a little Reed Foley star on them? A lot. How many balls are those on too? There must have been 50 balls that came out on the bank there. They're all gone now. I can assure you that. Yeah. Thanks. Anything else? Nope. Appreciate you. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.
On to uh the public hearing portion of the meeting. Item 14 for the second reading reading of ordinance number 2025-20. If you need a bathroom break, now's the time. An ordinance of the city of Horn County,
Florida reszoning plus or minus46 acres from community commercial to neighborhood preservation located at 412 Jefferson Avenue, 414 and 416 Jefferson Avenue. Reszoning plus or minus.18 acres from Ridgewood Development to
Neighborhood Preservation located at 117 Fleming Avenue. reszoning plus or minus.77 acres from neighborhood preservation to office residential transition located at 608 Rosel Street and parcel number 6304-07-0760
generally located on Dunl Avenue reszoning plus or -.24 acres from neighborhood preservation to government public use located at 413 Herbert Street reszoning plus or minus 1.07 07 acres from planned commercial development to government public use being identified
as parcel numbers 6304-07-1820 and 6304-07-141 [Music] generally located at Spruce Creek Road and Dunl Avenue reszoning plus or minus 1.66 66 acres from multif family residential to government public use being identified as parcel numbers
6341-05-0000-0010 and 6341-4-3-142 generally located at Roo Street reszoning plus or minus 31 acres from single family residential to government public use located at 5797 Devon Street authorizing revision of the official
official zoning atlas and providing an effective date. Wow. See, you definitely should have recorded that at the last time. I get a motion in a second for ordinance number 2025-20 to approve on second reading.
I move to approve ordinance number 2025-20. Second. We have a motion and a second. Any discussion by councel? Second. Any public comment? Back to council for the last time on
this. Call the role. Council. Yes. Council. Yes. Council. Yes. Yes. Yes. 50. Did so well at that. Let's try it again. Item 15, second reading of ordinance
number 2025-21. It's an ordinance of the city of Orange County, Florida, amending chapter 82 article 1 to establish a new section 82-6 authorizing and adopting a private aids to navigation a patent plan for the purpose of establishing jurisdiction to install and maintain uniform waterway
markers to safely guide voters to and from the river day dock. Authorizing the city manager to sign all required environmental and navigational permit applications necessary for the Riverwalk Park day dock project. providing for codification, repeal of conflicting ordinances, severability, and effective
date. Then I have a motion and a second to approve ordinance number 2025-21, second reading. Move to approve item 2025-21. Second. We have a motion and a second. Any comments from councel? It's on second
reading. I'm just curious if the city manager has ever signed a navigational permit in his career. That'll be the first. There you go. Anybody from the public wish to speak to this? And back to councel comments? No. Clerk, call the role, please. Council,
yes. Yes. Council, yes. Vice Mayor Gross, yes. Mayor, yes. 50. Item 16. Thank you, Mr. City Attorney. Item 16, administrative amendments to the amendments to the land development code.
Do we want to open all of these subsections at the same time? How did we Well, that was for discussion purposes. We might as well just do one at a time since it's just going to be a vote. Okay. All right. So, I'll I'll just leave with the with a if that's okay with you. Why don't you go and do that? Yeah. 2025-23 is an ordinance of the
city of Cornia County, Florida, amending the land development code, chapter 3, administrative and chapter 5 subdivisions relating to plat approval procedures to ensure consistency and compliance with recently adopted state legislation amending section 177.0714 statute requiring certain plat
submittals to be administratively approved without further action by the governing body. requiring the designation of an administrative authority for the plat review and approval process. Setting forth the review time frame and notice requirements related to the approval process for plat and replat submitts
conforming section 177.11 Florida statutes to be consistent with section 177.071 providing for appeal of conflicting ordinances seability and effective date. Can I get a motion and a second to approve ordinance number 2025-23
on second reading? Move to approve ordinance number 2025-23. Second. Have a motion and a second. Any comments by councel? See none. Anybody in the public wish to speak to this? Seeing and hearing none, back to councel. Cler call the role. Council,
yes. Council, yes. Council, yes. Vice Mayor, yes. Mayor, yes. 5. Second reading of ordinance number 2025-24. That's an ordinance of the city of Port Lucian County, Florida, amending the land development code chapter 15 relating to digital signs and
streamlining amending the message display time providing for repeal of conflicting ordinances, separability, and an effective date. Can I have a motion and a second to approve ordinance number 2025-24 and second reading? Move to approve ordinance number 2025-24. Second. Have
a motion and a second. Any comments by councel? Second read. Seeing none, anybody in the public wish to speak? Hearing none. Back to councel. Clerk, call the role. Council, yes. Council, yes. Council Green, yes.
Vice Mayor, yes. Mayor, yes. 50. Second reading of ordinance number 2025-25. That's an ordinance of the city of Orange County, Florida, amending the land development code chapter 16 relating to special setbacks for elevated wood decks, providing for appeal of conflicting ordinances,
severability, and an effective date. Can I get a motion and a second to approve ordinance number 2025-25? Move to approve. Move to approve ordinance number 2025-25 and second. I have a motion and a second. Any comment by councel? Anybody in the
public wish to speak to this? Back to councel. Clerk, call the role. Council yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. 50. Item 17, first reading of ordinance number 2025-9.
That's an ordinance of the city porn county, Florida, amending the land development code chapter 15 relating to non-conforming signs to incentivize the removal of certain existing non-conforming signs and sign faces in exchange for the allowance of reconstructing by agreement certain existing non-conforming signs and sign
faces along the I95 corridor and Rididgewood Avenue. removing unintended duplicate language providing for appeal of conflicting ordinances, severability, and an effective date. Can I get a motion and a second to approve ordinance number 2025-9?
Get a motion to approve 2025-9. Second. Have a motion in a second. Welcome, sir. Tim Burman, community development. The proposed LDC tax amendment has been proposed by um Lamar Advertising Company. This would amend the land development code. The amendment there
would establish a um ability to request a reconstruction agreement from the city council there to allow them to essentially take down two static or two static billboard sign faces and replace that install an LED sign face um on either location where the existing
billboard. So that could be done on either I95 or the one location on Ridgewood Avenue right at Ridgewood and um Node Road. The amendment basically states that the reconstruction agreement would have to come back for council. um that is currently if this would be approved would come back before you on October 7th that would establish the
locations of where the billboard sign faces will be removed and the new ones will be installed. Um also too the code amendment does provide a criteria in terms of how the sign face will operate the LED in terms of message timing, brightness, etc. Uh the language that we use is similar to what's already in the
code that was put in place in 2009 when they did the code amendment to allow the billboards across the bridge to go in. So, for the most part, we mirrored the um text on that except just updated it due to industry standards. Uh and then as stated before there, there was a number of cleanup items there that we
took advantage of staff here to clean up our code um as part of this amendment. Then, so staff's um are planning commission reviewed this, planning commission recommended approval um and beans here to further discuss their um request. Thank you, council. Any comments?
So, Tim, how Okay, so we're re we're reviewing or we are We are amending the code here. Is that what we're saying? Yeah, it' be a code amendment. How did How did the one over the bridge already get done? That was They actually amended the code
back in 2009 similar to this to put that to put in the code that you can request a reconstruction agreement and then they requested that that got approved in 2009. So, we're following the same process there. Um, why do we need to have it done then? Because the one in 2009 was stated that
basically that that re that you can only request that if a sto if it was damaged by a storm, fire, wind. This one they have not been damaged there. They're requesting to um upgrade them for to sign face in. So we had to do a new code amendment for the language there to allow them to request the brick
construction agreement. Okay, that's all I have. Sean, anything? No. Gentlemen, anything on this end? Uh real quick, I I just want to make sure I understand. Um, so this is allowed to have the same brightness as the one that's on the bridge, same speed of rotation and all that.
Correct. So that's my only my only concern is the brightness part. And you know, I happen to frequent US1. Obviously, it's in my district and I work in New Simra a lot. There was a non digital billboard that
was put just south of our border there, north of the three bridges and um it was advertising the Davis or David Brothers or whatever. Whatever LED lights they had that thing were absolutely blinding. Um and and I was just down at uh Jimmy
Hula's and kind of taking a look at that billboard. I had this meeting and it is rather bright for how for for what is for some of the residential area which are examples here, right? the the the two for ones on Rididgewood. I I I love this idea. I want this I want this to,
you know, happen, right? I want to see us go to digital and I want it to be better for businesses. I I want a better grasp before I vote yes of of how bright Bride is because I'm very concerned about the proximity to homes. And the last thing I want to do is vote yes on
this and have my phone get blown up a lot by by people who live there and and they have my number. Trust me. What do you put on the billboard? Yeah. Yeah. So, I I I want I want to say yes to this. Obviously, I'm just concerned about the brightness level. That's the only concern I have at all. Let the applicant Rob Murrell would be
able to answer that question for you. Okay. Speaking tonight. There you go. Rob Merrell with Cob Boulevard. Always good to see you guys and spend the evening with you. Um we're here to answer any questions mostly and I've got
Pete Castanza from Lamar also here. He had a presentation at planning commission where we actually did a PowerPoint. I was going to spare you guys that unless you really wanted it. We can do that if you like. But to answer your question, um there's actually an automatic dimming system in these boards and that's probably the
reason why in whatever it is 20 years that board's been there that there haven't been any complaints. I think there was one lady who lived behind it uh and and Peter met with her and they put something up to beautify the back of the board and everybody seems happy. So I don't think you guys have got any complaints. I think in fact, you know,
we've been doing these electronic boards in lots of different jurisdictions and people like them. Um, it took a while for people get used to the LED stuff and I think it's gotten better in terms of the technology. I've actually been a big part of writing a couple of these codes. Daytona is one example where we did it and it has a lot of standards including
the brightness. So, what happens is if you went looked at it, you know, the one over by the dairy bar and you looked at it closely in the daytime, it's bright. see it from distance, but when the as it gets darker, they automatically dim. And it's required by your code and their dim
their dims like four times as as is as as dark. And you're right, anyone who takes a laptop, iPad, if I if I take my iPad outside and it's noon and the brightness has to be at 100 for me to read a text message versus I could have it on minimum and I could walk out there right now. Is that does our code require that
it does that at dusk or or what what time? Is it based on time or at dusk or what? I think it's how's it worded? Yeah, it's from dust to dawn. Is it from dust to dawn? I can tell you this. We we did one at the pollution mall in Daytona and they the the switch stopped turning dimming. Yeah.
And I believe got co tons of calls that night call me in his office, you better get this fixed. And so people will notice when the light when it's on bright and the in the night time for sure. So um if that happens, we'll hear about it. We'll fix it. You know, Peter Peter lives here
so he's he's he's he's on it. And uh anytime something like that happens, these guys are good corporate citizens. They're part of the community and how they give back. So yeah, I'm I'm going to vote yes for this in good faith. Obviously, you know, I I trust in you guys that you're going to do the right thing and and overall I
think the concept is the right concept. It's the direction to go. I just want to make sure, like I said, I they have my number and and they will call. So I have to you guys got our number. So I'm glad they've got his number. They know where we are. I've been here my firm's been here 100 years. I've been here 40 years doing it.
So, yeah, we're not going anywhere. Absolutely. I don't have anything specific. I I actually like the idea. I think the signs look better. They look sharper. They look cleaner. I I So, I I think it's good. Um I appreciate the fact I'm sure there's some kind of photo cell there that that
causes that to automatically dim or however that works. So, yeah, I'm I'm good with it. I think for the most point, most people's perspective is they don't really like billboards. Well, until they're trying to advertise something. Yeah, we have a lot of local businesses that that advertise on these boards, but your general, I think, directions, you
want to reduce the number of them, and there's not that many, but by eliminating, you know, two to put one up that's cleaner. I mean, you're making headway on this. So, I think it's it's a positive thing and it you're right, we don't we don't have a lot of them. I appreciate you bringing that point up. And the location
of the ones that we do have work well, you know, so it's it's good. Anybody else have anything for Mr. Merrell? Thanks, guys. Thanks. Good to see you. Anybody from the public wish to speak to this? No. Hearing none. Back to council last. Anything else?
All right. Clerk, call the role for ordinance number 2025-9. Councilman. Yes. Council. Yes. Councilman. Yes. Yes. Mayor Yes. 50. Thank you guys. Rob, if you could give uh Pete uh
Jonathan's number and some advertising. I asked you why I didn't play over. Oh, good. Just give him your number. May maybe we'll put my upcoming shows on one of those slides now that there's lots of options. So, your family dates. I know that last
family. Yeah, nice. That's right. Do give me your do give me your email or contact. Just reach out to me. Absolutely. Thanks, man. All right. Council committee reports item 18. Felicia Flagler, TPO. Council, I was out of town, so I sent my
alternate. So, I'll defer to uh my alternate and the alternate has nothing to speak on right now. Nothing new on that. Okay. Anything else? There's anything you can just bring that bring that back to the next meeting. Uh item B, police pension board. Councilman Lance Green.
Uh pension board met quarterly meeting. Um the the overall health of the pension is very well. Um it currently uh be before the end of the quarter it was uh
69,000 83 69 million 83,656 and now it's 72,000 almost 73 73 million sorry it went up almost $4 million in a quarter. um which is a a really good
return and um they got really good people running this thing and uh couple other new guys that came in with the with the death of the actuary guy. They brought in some other people but again it's just uh it's very sound, very solid and uh making a good return. With that
being said though, um there is going to be a an increase. this the city's contribution to this pension is going to go up in the next couple years. So, as we move forward, we need to be mindful of that budget-wise that uh it is going
to cost us a little bit more in the pension because we have lowered their uh expectation of return. So, but other than that, the the pension's very healthy and it's it's very well managed. And I'll just comment on that. That's something I've asked the city manager uh
in in a future meeting, maybe a workshop or something to let's have this conversation about all of the pension plans cuz they're all three moving towards that direction. And we just need to have a better understanding of of what that's going to look like and how to budget for that. And I mean, it's the
right thing, you know, and everybody's trying to find that safe balance. Uh I remember the first time I was on uh pension board back in the '9s. It was you know it was you were always seeing year after year after year double digit returns big returns 12 14 16%. And you
don't really you don't see that consistently anymore and then when the when the markets were giving us a hard you know really bad time you were seeing either negative returns or returns in low single digits. So part of this whole thing is to bring uh you know not just
us but this all over over the country but especially in the in the state of Florida is make sure that your your set expected rate of return is realistic. Yeah. Um and fund accordingly and then you can always make adjustments there. So anything else on the All right. One of
the most important announcements for this evening for you four gentlemen is a reminder that we have to be back here tomorrow night. 5:30. 5:30. We'll be rolling up in here at 6:30 tomorrow night. So, tomorrow night, budget council meeting here at Port Orange City Hall starting at 5:30.
Anything else to come before us tonight? No. Have a good night.