e e e e e e e e e call the meeting new order the Planning Commission for March 27th y please rise
the Pledge of Allegiance s moment of silence pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible liy and justice for
all amen thank you everybody H clerk if you'll call the role please Stan Schmidt here uh Mark bowling Scott
Stager Daniel malago here Maria Mills Bennett here Bo Bimi I'm here Thomas Jordan here thank you very much uh make uh get to consideration of minutes from last meeting make a motion to approve
the minutes from February we have Motion in a second all those in flavor please signify by saying I oppose nay motion carries great we have the minute so let's move into the first
one item uh number one here was item number four sorry case number vc-25 00001 I get a motion Mr chairman I move we approve case number vc-25
d001 that it stands Schmidt oh that's right I'll second and a second from Maria all right Penny hi hi good evening Penelope crws planning um so the subject property before you is approximately 68
Acres it's an L-shaped lot located off Eddie Lane which is actually a private access easement Drive um between Herbert Street and Canal View Boulevard the property owners request the variance to reduce the front yard setback from 30 ft to 7 ft to allow the construction of an
18x 40 detached garage um let's see get this next one up here so you can see this is kind of the survey of the property overlaid on the aerial you can see the location where they're proposing to put this second garage the property zoned r10 single family um and it's a
reconfigured portion of lot 38 of the plantation acre subdivision which was platted in 1955 back then they were platted with these very large lots and since they they've kind of been split out and reconfigured some of them into like this
one's probably the main one that's got a little bit of an otter shaped lot than the rest of the area um and because of that and the placement of where the house is it creates kind of a unique situation on this property um where this
East property line has to be designated as the front property line in order for the existing house to to be conforming with setbacks um so because the property owned R 10 the setbacks are 30 feet in the front 10 on
the side and 25 um feet in the rear and again like I said this this property line here this East property line is what staff had to designate as the front property lined um in order for this house to not be non-conforming with
setbacks and that even though this proposed garage is set back way far off the actual Road and what would normally kind of feel like and I can say because I've been on the property feels like a side sidey yard which would normally have a 10ft set back um the request
sounds kind of larger than what it really is in reality um so the applicants are asking for this variance to be able to put this second garage here for um to protect their RV from the elements they did before they applied
for this variance consider um other options on the property and like I said staff went out to the site too and we've walked this entire property and are in agreement that these other potential locations um really are not good
locations for um for the proposed garage um these other locations would not require variances however there's other site conditions so this condition up here to the north um there's two existing historic trees that are in good
health um there's also the sewer cleanout right up here and so in order to put the garage in this location that wouldn't need a variance he would have to remove two historic trees um pay mitigation get that approved by city council and there could be impacts to
their sewer cleanout location as well um this location down here to the South um it actually dips down pretty low down here like I said I I've been out here and I've seen how that property really dips down in that area and so it would require fill to be added in that area um
in an area that kind of already has some flooding issues um and so it's not recommended to add fill here and it it doesn't that didn't seem like a good option to put the garage here as well so after walking this site and looking at it staff is in agreement that this is
the better location of the options that are available and the minimum variance that's necessary um for for this proposed garage so uh based on the criteria and the staff report staff feels that it meets the um intent of
what building setbacks are are for um and it would be in harmony with the area and the function of how this lot really functions more like a side Lot to the adjacent neighbor um and if if by chance you know this neighbor here were to want to build
right up to their side setb um which would be 10 ft for them there would still be 7 18 ft between those two structures so with that um staff is recommending approval and can answer any questions you have and the property owner is here as well good real quickly
for the record this is a variance request for 112 Eddie Lane to reduce the uh minimum front yard setback uh from 30 feet to 7 feet Maria I'll start with you you have any question Penny oh um I was
on the property a little while ago and uh somebody came out with a shotgun but going to say did they know you were there no and uh I kind of marveled at the size of the the the uh garage is built on the
neighbor's property oh yeah could actually I mean it it minimizes that property to the point where I don't think anybody would notice yeah I you know what he does there but uh I'm I'm good with it I think it's logical spot
Danny I'm assuming no complaints from the neighbor to the east we haven't received any calls the site's been um posted certified mailings have gone out and the legal notice in the news journal and we have not received any calls or complaints we have public comment
public oh no we'll we'll have it in a second we have to go through our process up here so you're good I'm good thank you good St um so the access to the property is actually off of Eddie Lane yes let me um so you can see here um off Herbert
Street Here Eddie Lane kind of comes in bends around and kind of ends right about here again it's a on the plat from 1955 it was a private access easement so it's not a a public Street or anything like that but that is their their legal
access to get back to the property and of course the hot topic of the day is always the water retention and all that kind of stuff do we have any problem with water retention when this building is built no so you know speaking with engineering this was the this was the more preferred location as well cuz the other again
removing the historic trees and the sewer impact here and then down here there would be a need for fill and so it was not recommended to put it in this other location so they can handle whatever is covered by this Garage still be this size is exempt from any
regulations bring this up because this is an area that's had some issues and we just spent three and a half hours on Tuesday night going through all the water retention PL so it's kind of hot on everybody's uh mind but uh I I think we if we meet that I don't
really have an issue with this okay yeah that was my only question or comment thought about it was also the coverage area it's going to be uh become per uh impervious uh good we're all set with you then uh do we have the applicant here today uh
Mr Mrs daily I assume Mr Mrs sorry Christopher daily Christoph my wife Linda daily over there come on up how you doing she she can come up uh We've owned the property for the last 13 years uh haven't had any problems with the property maintain the property um I
retired last year I bought an RV and I didn't know that all the debris was going to be on top of my RV the whole time we always garage our car um I'm on top of the RV like every two weeks cleaning all the stuff up the the top the solar panels um so I decided I want
to do this you know detached garage to house my RV um right adjacent to my Pro I don't think it's changing the character of the the landscape or the area if you I think one of this gentleman over here said he was at my property or near without the shotgun that wasn't you shun but there's
a garage that's literally twice the size of my prop of my garage to the east the East property line and he's granted me you know he G he gave a letter if you look I submitted a letter that he submitted that he said that he has no hesitation on me Building a garage next
to his garage it's going to be adjacent to his uh my property is a little weird like Penny explained it very well that's an LS property I thought the front property line is Edie Lane which It Isn't So I only near a three- foot variance but they came over there and
they told me my front property line is the East property line but when I drive into my driveway I go straight ahead going south and that's the front of my garage with my car is gar it's a detached garage then to my house is to the right so that's why the front property lines East
property line um and that's pretty much it surprise surprise huh yeah the side so that's why uh it's a big of variance than I expected all my neighbors are different mine's the only house that's perpendicular to Eddie Lane uh the
property to the my east of my property that's the side my front property line is his side my side is the back of everybody else's property lines um that's pretty much it but Penny kind of explained everything else I don't if you have any questions I could answer sir
cool we'll start uh I'm good you're good Daniel I'm good B how far are you from the canal just the canal itself I'm going to say if I'm not looking at the survey I would say 150 ft maybe more yeah so you got good drainage to the canal yeah well the drainage this where
I'm putting the garage doesn't flood but if I go literally 10 15t the other way water comes from the canal up to my house almost to that area but it doesn't come to that area I'm saying the last two two hurricanes
we saw water you know and uh it is a flood area but my house is never flooded but oh did did once you know little bit yeah but where I'm putting it is a higher spot than everywhere else like Penny said there is a place where I can put it in between my house and my garage but I definitely have to put Phill area
there cuz it you know goes lower and so okay thank you all right I appreciate it set both that's good are you I'm good oh we're good thank you very much appreciate it um all right uh open this up for public comment you've been waving over
here for 20 minutes so I guess you want to say he very anxious he'll come up here to the microphone you need to state your name and your address please and we have three minutes start you start could you pull up the map again on the map okay it's Alice dtive
um 839 Canal View Boulevard um is the property directly south I think if I remember the the um south of his property yeah it's yeah directly south and you're
between him and the canal West Side Oh I got yeah and it's the thing that I'm most concerned about is the flooding cuz the last cuz I it literally I mean my deck it was within an an eigh of an inch
of getting in and inside the house when we went through here and luckily last year Milton was Milton was a bit but I it's really since I'm not I'm worried about there's proper
drainage for it it would be fine but it really is bad with the amount because it's really been since maybe since FPL put the since they bought the property and they they you know they put the black top over and so there's there was
L the drainage is so bad and you know and now that the when it it was scar I've lost everything in my garage through the last two storms I've lost you know L it just doesn't because it just flows down and there's nowhere if
there was if there was proper drainage it would be fine but it would I just I'm very concerned if it was like a concrete floor or whatever without proper drainage they there would nowhere for the water to go and that large the
larger one that he quite right is I mean it is an ISO it looks like a huge um Warehouse the one adjacent to him but it's and I don't know whether because the concrete floor in that it is
there's nowhere for the water to go and it's and I'm just and I am really worried because every time now and my next door neighbor his house was 18 in under water I'm surprised he's not here he gave me
permission well that all I and the and the one next to me the other side is he had his house was flooded I mean I'm just if if the drainage was there then I
but to put more concrete down and to without a proper way for it to drain that that whole area is just so bad and I know the dips and deeper Parts but the whole of my yard at 839 was you know 2
ft underwater at the last stor all the way from there cuz the the driveway from the from the easement that goes between Canal View Boulevard and our row of houses that is built up but so all the water ran down and there was
nowhere during the last storm so the it all pulled in those houses that in our yards all the way along that and the whole of the all the houses along that easement we all well they were all flooded their whole houses were flooded and they you know they've been flooded
every single storm and and now you know without with mine luckily it didn't but I I mean it the garage I've lost everything two two tracks I mean cuz it cuz now they're becoming more frequent the flooding is becoming more of a problem and I think it's since y did all
that because there's nowhere for the water to go so if there was proper and there's I don't know the the name of it but there the do I have to stop that's your time you can finish your sentence if you'd
like go ahead well the the side one between my next door neighbor and the other one that's supposed to feed into the canal that is blocked I mean that doesn't work so I'm just so could flooding is the main main main main main
thing right if I'd love it I'd love it if the city would well and be part of it I mean to be part of because everybody's affected all the houses and worse than me along that road I mean it's not
because my house is built up got it but it's but and you're between so let me make sure I understand where you're at could you you're between their property and the canal yeah okay I me and it's directly is the excuse me I'll put the
map up so you can see there you go what no I'm looking for the map I was on my phone trying to find it so I believe are you this property this is his property right here okay yeah that's what because if and and I was worried about that the the setback from the that
setback is being met they're not asking for variance from the rear from that they're not they're not asking for a setback from this property line only from this property line This one is being met her code okay but Penny while you're standing there am I correct in saying that a structure of this size
isn't going to make her Brak flooding so it's 720 Square ft um and when a building permit comes in we don't have a building permit right now so we can't speak to the design or anything um engineering is part of that review and they they they look at making sure that
the grading is proper is and then if any kind of SES or anything or necessary so that would be the next step today we're just talking about a setback right on the side what what happened with Florida Power Light I what happened over here it was is to this to the the other side of let
me let me do the com first they bought they bought the house that was there before that was destroyed in Charlie and and it was grad it was left it was left you know just empty for years and then they put the black top
over and so there's nowhere for the water there's it got it I I am it's it's just the drainage if because that is certainly sorry can I just say for I really when I said for all the houses along that road I mean
mine was the least damaged but it's it's just for the sake of everybody got it thank you sir thank you anybody else in the public wish should speak on this one Robert no certainly come on up just your name and your address
okay hello hello my name is Rebecca Snowden I live at 105 Eddie Lane I have resided here for 13 years I believe you live at the end of our road um to piggy back onto this gentleman's
um we had a sign posted at the end of our road um conveniently where nobody can see it and it was for this meeting that there is going to be a house built behind my house and it's going to be 107
Lane which is a vacant lot right now that lot flooded in 2022 into my house um in Hurricane Ian we got 4 and A2 Ines inside of our house we had to rip everything out and rebuild in 2024 sorry you're fine in 2024 we
flooded again for Milton we got 2 and A2 Ines inside of our house we had to rebuild um this lot that is still vacant but has been bought and they are going to build a house um I believe Zillow
said it would be available September of 2025 um my concern is that when they build on this property which is already flooded like I said about 3 to fourt um it's going to double in
measurement the flooding that we had in the last two floods everybody on my street flooded all Eight houses two people have moved one has has been condemned so my concern
is this property this lot needs to be preserved otherwise everybody's going to flood again let me let me let me clarify are you talking about this property or are you talking about the other property I'm talking about it's 107 Eddie Lane nothing to do right now that is nothing
to do with this particular case that we're discussing now I'm sorry oh I'm sorry that's okay was I supposed to sign in you're fine good you're good we just want to make sure we were talking about the same thing and we're not okay so
this is talking about one what and I actually saw on the map it looks like he lives at the end of my road doesn't live there no toally different should I stop and come back up when it's my Cas I the property that was sold that I can
explain everything I mean we're just talking about a weild talking about a setback for a garage to be put at 112 at El Lane not a house so it's not my turn then 107 right do I come back up I don't think we do we have there's nothing on the agenda for
that house we don't have one for that yeah it is it does say I have the case number you can check with Penny or Tim over there they might be able to help you okay all righty all right anybody else
on 112 Ed El Lane we're good we're good all right bring it back here to the to the uh to the commission Stan you have anything um you know again my biggest thing is about the drainage we really won't know until
we have the engineering study this is just variance on the lot line and that's it so the permitting and all that kind of stuff you'll have to go through engineering you'll have to demonstrate that you are retaining the water that is falling at right now um so I I think
we're okay and then when you when you bring in this other one that's not relevant to us for right now so right I'm good Daniel um yeah it's it's going to go here it's going to go another spot in the property so I don't see it changing anything and like Stan said it's going to have to go through zoning
anyway so yeah engineering me sorry engineering yeah yeah sorry Bo Maria yeah I just just to piggyback on what they said where're where voting on a setback tonight we're not voting on if they're going to build a shed or not we're voting on a setback that doesn't
mean that they're going to get everything set to build the shed and they don't even have to come before us they can take down two trees and build it anyway so it's going up regardless of us really so yeah yeah that's the key and
again we all I think we all are sensitive to the flooding issue we really are super sensitive so we have to decide here is whether we're going to allow them to engineer this by giving them this uh reduction in the side side set back front set back which one is it
front set back yeah looks like which for flooding I think is a better spot than what the other one would yeah and then engineering will go through with Community Development and look at all of the water and utilities and access and all the other rules that they have so we
have a motion and a second on the um am on the uh application here you read a uh do a roll call we'll take a vote Stan Schmidt yes Daniel Malo yes Maria Mills Bennett
yes Bo bam yes Thomas Jordan yes congratulations folks you all right moving on to the next item on our agenda tonight an application for rezoning um case number rezoning d25
00001 it's a rezoning for the addresses of 4619 and 4629 Clyde Moors Boulevard wait I think oh did I skip the wrong right Penny's like what the heck let me move on let me back up I wrote my notes on the wrong one here yeah let me back up
then uh so rezoning 25-2 yes 5656 Isabelle we wanted to trick you and put two before one yes what the heck make a motion to approve case number resoning Das 25-
00002 did you get the right one yeah thank you second Mar and Bo on First and motion in a second all right Penny sorry about that confusion we just see if you're paying attention all right pel Cru planning um
this proposed resoning request is to reone the existing commercial property um that you see here on the screen located at the southwest corner of Isel and Regency Boulevard from planed commercial development to professional office the current um Master development agreement for the PCD was approved by the city in 19
1995 and it restricts the uses of the property to office Hol sale Distributors construction contractor's office storage and light manual assembly minor repair just those uses um although that PCD does limit the property to those specific uses the property itself has
been designated commercial on the city's future land use map since 1985 um and it's previously was zoned C1 shopping center commercial before it was zoned PCD so the request to reone the property to professional office is to assist in the filling of tenant spaces within the
existing commercial multi-tenant buildings on site and possible future Redevelopment um in the future we do not we're not aware of any Redevelopment plans at this point um but it is a consistent thing that the city's been doing over the past 10 years taking some of these old pcds that are very
Antiquated and are not necessary and and have very um some some of them have very odd restrictions in them and rezoning them to conven itional commercial zoning so that the um Property Owners can just follow the Land Development code and everything is very transparent for staff
for the public and for the owners so it's a consistent thing that we've been doing over the past 10 years with these old pcds um so the professional office zoning district is intended to provide areas for business government industry Medical Professional and service offices along with some limited profession um
personal service uses it basically allows the same uses that are allowed on the PCD now along with um the addition of Fleet Based Services and some personal services um so staff has evaluated the proposed resoning and is determined it's appropriate for the
location and is consistent with the commercial future land use designation and compatible with surrounding uses and here to answer any questions you have cool start with Stan so just looking at that picture if you want to go to the one where it shows the buildings this
one yeah this um they're really not talking about adding any buildings this is all really about the usage so this is kind of like what we did two weeks ago yeah with the one behind uh by the BFW out here or we just Chang some of what you could put on there because no this
is different that's a that's a that was an amendment to their MDA this is removing the MDA removing the PCD and going to Conventional zoning and just following the Land Development code but but the purpose was just to get into a different set of what you could put on
there this this will give them a couple more options yeah just a just a couple more options and also just it's a very old Antiquated um Master development agreement and and actually this front part was already where's my cursor oh
the these front pieces were actually also part of an old PCD and a few years ago were rezoned to community commercial for the same reason it was part of those efforts wasn't the one on the North End was had been a window store and then they were going to make it a church or something like that yes yeah so those
were already rezoned from the PCD a few years ago it was like we did one in like 2020 and some in 2022 um this one instead of going to community commercial we're we're requesting to put it to professional office just because this one is backs closer to the mobile home park and so as kind of like a transition
to something that's a little bit less intense okay all right that's that's the way I understood it we're we're just given some uses that we didn't have right now and like cleaning up some of the they're making it easier cuz it put back into the normal so you don't have
to go look up in just cleans up some of yeah exactly Daniel you got a question for comment questions b um no I think I'm okay I'm good you're good
bu um yeah I'm fine okay pardon me I think we're good with you would you have the applicant here tonight I well we are the applicant oh I'm sorry I they're both ad they're both administrative resoning both of the
items on the agenda and the agenda um the owner is here if you like to ask but we are acting as the applicant I got you very good cool cool cool um you want to say anything real quick come earn your Pat not like one of the one of the attorneys we get up here where they have to speak just to get
billing but go ahead no I'm not billing me and I'm not an attorney uh yeah this is uh I've only owned this property for about 3 years uh the Clark family had it before me and
from what I had gathered the city had contacted them years ago asking to do exactly this and I have absolutely no idea why they said no I don't feel like it so uh the
sounds so the PCD zoning uh that was put into place back in it was 95 um it's not handwritten but it's fairly close doesn't line up with the city's
PCD zoning so if you tell a tenant uh yeah it's Zone PCD well they go to the city site PC well but that's not actually what it is and so I'm when I was asked hey do you want to do this
like yeah I like some consistency good so that's about for the record give us your name and your address oh Andrew Max uh property address 5656 Isabelle and Port Orange cool any quick questions I go by Max
okay that's why the on the back side of your property those all those rollups is that all storage so every unit is built out differently uh we've got we've got some
that are being used for I got a a guy in unit one who makes Native American fluts Native American fluts I got a guy who makes custom propellers um I've got a couple of them
that the rollup door goes to a wall about right here and the rest of it is just being used as office uh so everyone's built them out as to it's an interesting property I uh you know uh looking at it and I was trying to figure out how those things were
connected but uh it's nice property good location thank you yeah and the State of Florida uh Department of Agriculture they have they occupy the Octagon building uh so they used to have three of the back units with the rollup doors and a couple years ago I moved them into
the Octagon they're a lot happier so that's all very good anybody else yeah thanks sir appreciate it thank you any public comment tonight no Robert you're good Robert's
the only public now yeah all right bring it back to the commission here Maria got anything else no this easy peasy okay Bo no Daniel nothing here Stan nothing there I'm good as well clerk if you'll call the we have a motion in a second if you call the RO please Stan Schmidt yes
Daniel malago yes Maria Mills Bennett yes Bobo pay me yes Thomas Jordan yes all set congratulations let's see if I can find the right case here now on the next mov on last item here it looks like uh this
is resoning d251 for 4619 and 4629 Clyde Morris Boulevard have a motion motion to approve case number rezoning d25
d001 I'll second that have a motion from Maria second from Stan right the cruise planning um so this proposed resoning request is also an administrative zoning similar to the last one this includes the two existing commercial par um Parcels you see here
labeled as lot one and two located at the northeast corner of Clyde moris Boulevard in Herbert Street from PCD to community commercial lot three of the PCD is not part of the rezoning request and will remain zoned PCD the current Master development agreement for the PCD
was approved in 1999 and it does not include several of the commercial uses typically found on other properties throughout the city with conventional commercial zoning um as allowed uses for lot one and two and has some very specific architectural requirements for lot two that may limit Redevelopment of
the property the subject property has been designated a non-residential category on the future land use map since 1985 and has been zoned PCD since 1990 in 1999 when the Ritter PCD was approved
um at that time um it appears that the design of of the restaurant building with the outdoor seating on lot two was probably considered unique um and so it looks like they put some very very specific restrictions um in the master development agreement because of that
that restricted um uses on lot one and two and had some very specific architectural requirements for lot two such as listing specific color and materials for redevelopment of Lot 2 um saying that it can only be devel um developed with split face block stating
that the roof color must be International blue or a lighter color and that the tables and chairs must be concrete natural gray with blue and white stripe umbrellas so it makes it very difficult to redevelop for a different business with those
requirements in the MDA so uh rezoning the subject properties to community commercial is anticipated to help with red developing the properties um and it's it's a typical Community scale commercial use and you can see here on this zoning map it's what it it's what the properties um on either side of the
intersection are zoned as well um we've determined it's an appropriate location for this zoning it's consistent with the commercial future land use of the property and it's compatible with the surrounding properties so here to answer any questions you have St are they open yet the Frozen gold I
don't think so I'm not sure think they're still paper they were chirping like you know late this month earlier yeah they're still working on a couple things I believe okay oh they're doing the ice cream there I thought they were doing mics sorry they're both going to be in there they're both owned by the same family both I know I just didn't
know they were do the ice cream the way the way I read it in the various news reports was that the ice cream was going to open first and then the hamburger place shortly thereafter because they had to do some grap Burgers go eat there yeah hey I've been told Daniel no
questions b um no you're all sit Mar I'm good good think we're all set all right thank you very much thank you public comment any public comment Last Chance
Robert well actually got one more all right Robert you're too easy tonight we really thought they should bring us free samples right uh anything else from anybody no you're good all right uh we'll do a roll call and uh if you read the role okay
Stan Schmid yes Daniel mle yes Mar Mills Bennett yes Bo yes Thomas Jordan yes all set get those taken care of congratulations to the city for
that all right other business uh I see no other items there so other business commissioner comments Maria no great job by staff as usual I love that we're taking some of these old properties and kind of like conforming them to now just
happy you know be filled and be joyous and not be empty saves everybody from having read through a whole MDA yes thank the Lord for that so great job Bo I'm good Daniel anything hi
second Maria thank you Dan uh just in general I was at the meeting the workshop Tuesday night on storm water and the city did a great job the city engineer was up here for three and a half hours which I understand is he won't have to speak for the rest of the
year now because he doesn't like speak but uh they did a great job explaining what's going on and of course that whole issue has got everybody's antenna up and so it was good to hear what they had to say and I'm sure as we go through more of these issues with rezoning or
setbacks or that kind of stuff that's going to be a something that will all be get question about or we should be asking the questions on that and and probably just when you bring these to us just go okay this is just a variance so
we're not planning to do this or they have to to get their permit they've got to show the water retention ability and all that kind of stuff so it's really not our issue but um sometimes people get confused on what we're doing and what we're not doing and
all that kind of stuff so it's kind of a nice reminder to see what's going on um that's it for me very good the only question I had was is and Tim if you want to come up here for a second I just was curious how how your Department's being impacted on dealing with the the
the water issues the the water retention and things are you dealing with things a little differently now I we continue basically to enforce land of elment code um on there with our reviews just like we did before you know here that basically kind of has you know more of emphasis when you have the
reviews um but we're basically complying with the code and you know we look thoroughly at projects before and after then in terms of storm water then cool good thanks while you're here so did this this engineering study we still have access or you guys still have
access to the model itself right so you can see what might change by any results of change to the property or the neighbor that was you know by the city engineering we were we've basically been part of it in terms of reviewing what has been proposed but we were not involved in the model there then so I
wouldn't be able to speak on that that would be something we have to contact you well what I'm saying does it kind of tie in when you guys are doing your reviews or is that it's not part of your department so you're saying it's more yeah basically help over there basically it will help in terms of us developing codes and St like that then moving forward then um and the projects that
come along they'll be able to input that as part of the data then on that side then can I ask you a question no what is the status of that right now as far as mitigation flooding cleaning it out do you know that's that's not
within Community development's Direction so I'd have to get information on that or have you contact another department I mean do you don't know if they're still working on it or I know the state was working on it a few months ago in terms of cleaning I believe that project has come to an end but in terms of status on
the canal I'd have to get some more information from other departments that are or other agencies since that's not maintained by the city then to get you that information has a huge impact on the city though you it it was there was reference on there so if you go back and
look at the uh the Youtube channel um the uh the engineering department did talk about what they're currently doing and the kind of equipment they have and the Personnel they have to do this kind of work so there is some work being done there's some minor projects that
they're doing that weren't really on the agenda per se for for the meeting on Tuesday Tuesday night but it's cuz there was one lady was all concerned about this that and the other thing and the engineer turned around he goes we're doing that it's it's not it's not a big project that we're going to
talk about tonight but we're working on it right now so they showed some of the work they're doing they talked about the uh corrugated concrete pipe not corrugated concrete corrugated metal pipe um and a lot of that stuff's been
on the ground for over 50 years and it's it has corroded so much and he was talking that there was one section where they dug down into there and the whole upper part of the corated pipe was rested away but the dirt above it was
holding the shape of the pipe so it was okay until they got excess pressure and then they had some problems and you a lot of times we won't know that even happens until we have a road collapse but what they're doing is they've got a way to
um basically it's like a big balloon they shoot this thing underneath there and then they can blow it up and then put some some heat or water on you guys might know more about that than I do I just University on Monday on this one stand it's actually a tube that's filled with fiberglass and when they roll it
inside out like you said they blow it up inside the tube and then they heat the fiberglass resin and it causes it causes it to set and then at that point it becomes nearly per perminent yeah yeah it's really cool so they're they're doing some stuff but they've got 15
miles of that see MP and they said it's I think they said like a million dollar a mile so they said you know like $15 million to just do that one of the things you notice when they brought this stuff up there's huge price taxs on all this stuff and uh it's going to take
work with the various state and federal agencies and County hopefully to get some help to get this stuff done and one of the things they asked us to do here's all the names and addresses of the elected officials up to the state and if you just want to mention hey you know we
can use some help but what they also found out the city staff's already been up to Tallahasse and you know the fight for scarce dollars is huge but we were one of only three or four cities that actually had engineering studies in hand so we're going up there saying we've got
all this we're ready to go we just need some cash to get rolling on this stuff and uh the city has been um holding some funds to to aside because a lot of these projects you have to have some kind of matching funds so they've been working on that we've got that
Wastewater or not Wastewater the storm water tax that's that's on your water bill so they're they're doing what they can as fast as they can but it's going to be a expensive slow process and we the other thing is we hope we get cooperation from the people to the north
of us because a lot of the water that's coming down is coming down through these various canals MH and these canals like the b19 canal the over Road Canal Reed Canal those things were all dug back in the' 40s as mosquito control projects so
they really weren't primarily set up to you know handle storm water but that's what they' become so it was pretty interesting i' I'd really recommend anybody to go back and look at the city's uh YouTube channel and and it's a long you know Juno was up here for three
over three hours and uh there a lot of lot of good information there and the engineers were here and I thought it was an NCW tournament because those guys were huge I think every one of those guys was about six5 or better okay it's dinner time let's go
all right on staff comments anything public comments excuse me public comments Robert Last Chance Robert good thanks for coming we appreciate it all right move to adjourn or accept a Move Motion to adjourn motion to adjourn all very good