You ready? >> Yeah. >> Call to order the Citizens Advisory Committee uh January 8th, 2026. Please stand for the pledge of >> allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> We're going to do a roll call, but I'm going to do go a little bit out of order. We're going to do number one quick because last time we had the
meeting, we didn't put our mics on. Okay. >> Unfortunately, Caroline was not here, so there are no minutes because it wasn't recorded. So, make sure you put your mics on, >> okay? And and just know that everything you say is being can be heard. So, >> okay. So, now you can do you can do
roll. >> Chairwoman Linda Rodriguez, >> present. >> Vice Chairwoman Lorie Simpson >> here. >> Member Christine Sullivan. Let the record reflect that member Christine Sullivan is absent. Member Janet Slooars
>> Slooars >> here. >> Member Rob Kenworthy. Let the record reflect that member Rob Kenworthy is absent from this meeting and Secretary Caroline Gonzalez here. >> Did she call you? >> Yeah.
>> It must have been right after you. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Um we don't have any minutes to approve again because we didn't have the mics on last time. So there are no minutes to approve this time. That will be um we won't do that again. So, >> um, comments from the chairwoman and
members. We'll start with Miss Lori. >> Um, well, our artists aren't here yet, so I I guess I don't really have anything right now. >> Okay, Carolyn, >> I just want to say happy new year.
>> Happy New Year. >> Got it. First of all, it's nice to be back after a long vacation. >> Yes. Um, happy new year to all and I'm looking forward to digging in. >> Just just so everybody knows about nine
years ago when I started coming to CAC, Janet was one of the original members up here on the CAC. Um, she took a little hiatus for some personal reasons and we're very glad to have her back. >> Very excited to have her back. So, >> welcome. >> Um, and I don't have anything that's not
on the agenda. So, we'll start with the agenda. First on the agenda is the protocol for recording the CAC minutes. Um I just spoke about that. So it was just that we make sure that when somebody is not here to push the button on the machine that we
make sure that we hit our things our mics so that it can be heard >> and then shut it off at the end of the meeting >> and shut off at the end. >> Yeah. because there was a lot of so that was that um discussion about
non-residents joining the committee that was come up from council council has permitted some non-residents in some other committees to uh join their committees. So we wanted to get the
feedback and what you all think about that if that's something that we want to do or not. Doesn't have to be. It's just a suggestion. So that's why we wanted to bring it up for conversation. >> I mean why would you do that? Why why would somebody want to do that? What's the
>> like for instance for the um events committee? >> Okay. >> They have got people that are not >> yes >> citizens for the events committee because they have different um expertise that some maybe some of the residents either don't have or or haven't um
volunteered for the thing. So I think that's the only is that the only Who am I looking at? Is that the only um Yeah, that's the only committee that's got non-residents, I think. Right, is the vets committee. >> Uh the historical comm um historical committee has non-residents as well. Oh,
right. >> Because we wanted to pull some from the Newport Richie and West Pasco Association. >> Okay. But those are the only two, right? So that you know of that that's all I remember. >> To my knowledge, those are the only two. >> Yeah.
I mean since this is a citizens advisory committee I would think we would need to remain to just citizens. >> I agree. I mean we can certainly if they would like if the non-citizen would like to come and and come to the audience and make suggestions or questions always everybody is welcome to come. Not a
problem. But to be sitting on the committee I just don't know if that's something that I would be for. >> Yeah. >> You agree? I agree totally. >> All right. So, I'm I guess we probably should at least make a motion to
um >> a motion to to make a rule that the members of the citizens advisory committee have to be a citizen of Port Richie. >> Need a second. >> I second. >> Motion's been made and seconded. Any
further discussion? >> All those in favor? >> I >> opposed. >> Okay. So, we'll just keep it with citizens. I heard like businesses and stuff like that. >> Maybe somebody isn't a resident of the town, but they own a business in town. That might be a voice that maybe that's
why that was suggested. >> We can we can certainly I I would say as a as a rule, we would keep it this, but if somebody if a resident a business owner wants to, I certainly we can look at that on an individual basis. >> Just not not to cause trouble. Just
>> Yeah. No, no trouble. I I appreciate the uh the input. So I I think you can look at it on an individual basis at that point if that's if that's the case. >> We only have one artist here so far. >> Yeah, I had to confirmation from two others, but I don't see >> Well, why don't we why don't we let
Agata um start her presentation. Um and when the others come in, we can certainly let them jump in. No problem. Um, this is for the mural on Olsner Park Wall that we have been Lori has been very diligently working on for a year and a half or two years trying to get
this up and running and it's a great it's a great um great project. So, we were finally able to um secure a couple of artists to give us hopefully some um presentations and some bids. And so, um I was able to meet with Agata. So, she's
I haven't seen what she's brought, but she's >> talked about it. >> Yes, we did. Come on in. >> If you if you just give your name and address right up here, if you don't mind, >> thank you. >> From here. >> Yes. Thank you.
>> My name is Agata and I run my mural business which is called Studio and my address currently is in Holiday at 1200 Drive. >> Thank you. And I have copies for everybody because I printed out.
>> Wait, that's perfectly. Thank you. >> And these are like booklets, but they make really sense to be printed on both parts of the >> I'm running out. You might have to share. >> Yeah, I know. I know.
>> All right. Wow, that looks awesome. So, yes. So, this is why I'm so excited because it really the 100 foot mural, it allows to tell a story which is not just containing one image, but you can let
the images flow and tell kind of the story of this area. So, it's educational, but it's not like that. It shows you I do delineate. Do you want to just go through it like? >> Sure.
>> So, what we spoke about is to cover that wall that runs the entire length of the park on one side of the park. And it's kind of like a backdrop to the play area, the sitting area, and it runs all
the way down to the beach area. The elements that we discussed is for sure we wanted three portraits. Martha Olner for whom the park is named one of them. Captain Richie the founder of the town is named who whom the town is named
after and the portrait which of course have to be imaginary of a Native American tribesman of the wedom people who would have occupied this area in the days past. The other elements were the three seals and the portrait. So the the
seal that's hanging right here is the portrait seal. Then the commemorative centennial seal as well as the newly designed um city logo and another element that we wanted to contain is a pelican which is the city
mascot. Everything would be tied together with the natural landscape and fauna of Florida state. So we have the you know everything would the images would flow from one another being tied
by the vegetation and fish life fish wildlife fishes um and different flags some were incorporated into the composition and also you mentioned Linda at the very
end if you would like the welcome to park written in Victorian script specifically This is what we have here. >> And I wanted to design everything. So what we're seeing underneath the welcome to Olner Park. This is obviously just a
concept idea. This is how I imagined the flow of the images to happen, but these are not finite rendered sketches just to give you an idea. >> So we start with the older park signing. keep everything in a color scheme that
doesn't fight the environment, but it's going to be for sure more more punchy and more vibrant than what we see here. This is kind of just like a really basic sketch and that will be surrounded with, you know, the jungle, the palm trees,
the flowers and that flows because this first section of the mural is kind of covered by the bathroom building. >> Yes. >> We don't really want prominent elements to be painted over there because it's kind of not going to be as visible. So, we're just going to have the vegetation
flowing from that side. Then we're going to tell the story almost linearly. So, what happened in the old days? So, we'll have the imaginary view but really based and rooted in history. So, I started doing some research. I have an interest
in archaeology regardless. I've actually called the Weeden Preserve um the historical society and they have the dig. So they're constantly digging and learning new things about this and I'm sorry that it didn't happen earlier because it's happening tomorrow. So I'm actually going to like you know touch
the artifacts and sort them and I hope to learn a lot more of know for sure that this culture based in fishing and this is how they sustain their living. And I had an idea of
perhaps representing the island Indian as a woman instead of the warrior. What came out is a warrior because they just have like cooler things. But we can change that and um that's
flexible. So the figure will be prominently you know in the forefront. In the background, we'll have the village life of the of the Native Americans. Then we flow into the pilgrim. So again,
there's a transition that happens through plants and holage. And this is what I imagine just from old pictures. There's not a remaining picture that I could find of what company. There is a remaining photo of his house that he bought in the 1800s, but I couldn't find
a photo of the general store that he ran out of which he opened the post office which was the first local post office. So I just symbolically represented it by the horserawn carriage with the US mail stamped on it because this is how they distributed the mail back.
>> And this is where I entered the American flag. >> Sorry, my voice is shaking because I'm not used to speaking. Okay, >> you're doing wonderful. Thank you. >> So this is the back background of the pilgrims of the first like you know >> settlement of the area and this is the
perfect time to enter the forefront portrait of captain and then to follow it with the city steel because it just logically flows into it. He is the on my favorite.
Okay. So, she was such a character. First of all, I'm not even sure if you look closely. So, when I read Olsar Park, because we're so used to in our culture that most things, the most prominent figures, especially historically have been men, I
immediately imagined some masculine figure. So to learn that this was a woman and what she did so she preserved the local Indian mount next to it because it was on her property and she really fought for it preserved. I just I
love her. She was a larger than life character that participated in all strata um of the social life of this community and she was named to be the most colorful member that's ever lived here by her contemporaries. I'm trying to look for more information. I really
couldn't find that much, but that's as far as I got. And she had um background in theater. So just as a symbol as a nod to that, I wanted to commemorate the oer mount in the background represented the
way that we see it now. So the old days that probably was a mount that was so that was um the mount preserved was a what do you call it? um ceremonial mound. Whereas the mine that was very close to it that was destroyed, it's a
bur burial mound. Now it's overgrown with trees. There's stairs on it. Probably made the early the early 1900s. Um I wanted to represent it the way that it is now. >> And I'm symbolizing her personality with the theater masks, the classic like the
theater symbol of the smiling or the crying mask. And then we have her portrait. And then that flows into the This is also like a fun idea because the commemorative seal it kind of reads it's so photo realistic and it kind of
creates like a picture of landscape. It has this sun. It has a lot of detail. So what I wanted to do is kind of like spread it open and make it a vista of the stank sky the water. then place all the, you know, the manatees, the
dolphins, whatever's on the ceiling, have that wildlife and then you just circle a part of it. Boom. That's the seal. So that was just a fun idea and I think it could really work that flows into more vegetation and
then we have a pelican that's prominently featured on the beach and that last picture will literally be in the background of the beach and kind of organically flow into the the bayou and
there I found that that's probably the best placement for the portrait logo which says to G and little, you know, looking over the water. So, I couldn't really fit it anywhere else. I think that works. Yeah. And it also has a sun.
So, it's almost like the sun and the sky will be that a little bit smaller. But, of course, these are just ideas. >> And then, and um when I said goodbye to you, I did the wall because I wanted to photograph
it so I could make up. And I saw that it would make those sense to use this bare wall of the ble >> and really blow out that welcome sign which is going to be so ornate and so beautiful and make it bigger instead of
having it hide the very little wall behind it. So just an idea but I think it would visually work. So then you would start the mural with just more vegetation. So it kind of like it's just a visual. Oh, there's fields and you
know trees back there. And then you go into the pricing structure. So we talked about how I usually present my clients with three levels of how complex this can go just to give you an idea. So we have three tiers. The first one is
quite basic, very graphic. Um the second one gets more nuanced. There's more detail. There's more colors being used. There will be more nuance transition transitions from one handle to the other. And then we enter the third tier
which is really going for it visually completely immersive painted very realistically, lots of detail, lots of color. Um the materials don't really differ. So the material fee stays the same across the board. Okay? >> Because paint is paint. We need paint.
And we also need a very good quality. It almost works like a SPF for the wall, >> a protective coat. And so, >> yeah, the materials are the materials. The tears are delineated. Um, there's a design fee and then there's the mural
execution fee. And that's pretty much it. >> And the last page was a couple examples of your work. >> Oh, these are just examples of my work. And the reason I provided these four is to the like kind of showcase the my
competence in building a comprehensive color scheme and composition as well that my ability to work with large scale. And this is probably not the best picture, but it's this kind of renaissance like fresco on the ceiling
that showcases my ability to paint very realistically and also shows that I can work with different styles. So that's I passed by this one every day. >> Oh, did you really? >> Yeah. Ultimate 19 every day. >> Four on alt 19 and they just wave to
them. >> Yeah. And I was like, it looks so familiar. I'm like, "Oh, sweet. >> This is wonderful." >> More over there. >> Yeah. >> This is very good. >> Yes. You like it? >> I I love it. I love it. Um I think I don't know if the other artist is going
to show up, but I think what we need to do is decide how we want to proceed, whether it be just Agata's proposal or if all PE, you know, the rest of the artists show up and and give us their proposals. What's what's the um so we're going to have to take it to
council um for their input approval which tier they would like to go to. Um I think well what do you all think first before >> I think we have to get three bids don't we? So >> well it all depends on how far you're
willing to take it and how much council is willing to put into this project. Um because the higher we go then the chances of us having to go out to bid for this because of the amount. >> Yeah. >> Um but what I think you should do first is if the other if the other designers
aren't going to come to present, I would at least reach out to them, see if they can at least send you those proposals and then present that to council. What I what I would consider doing though is at the very least
maybe if you if you could provide if you could provide an example of this without without pricing on it. So then you can explain to council how far in depth they want to go um what kind of feeling they want. maybe at least show them the show
the first page the the idea of what she's presenting and get their input on that idea. I don't want to I don't want to uh set pricing and what the you know if they if they really like this concept and want to move forward with this
concept then the thing is is that okay what do we got to do to work that out you know and then that's a different subject all together so I think that you can what I would do is um collect the other proposals >> and then that's that's one discussion
and then this is can be a second a second type of discussion to at least present to council, collaborate with the city manager and say, "Do is this is this the concept? Is this what we're looking for?" You know, this is what we're looking for. And I I think that's what you guys really should talk about
tonight. Um if anything, what you know, do you like do you like what you're presenting as as far as the concept? you want to make any changes, you know, and that way you have you have your groundbreaking layout of what this is going to look like, okay?
>> You know, and then you can build on that. Now, we did have a resident that approached me after the presentation to council that offered to donate some funds. How whether it be a dollar or $30,000, I
have I mean, I didn't discuss any of that with him. It was just he came up to me, he liked what we were going to do and he offered. So if we get um donations from a businesses, citizens, stuff like that. Does that change
the process in bits? That's going to that's legal. We have to go and get involved in that. >> City manager would have to actually have that conversation. >> Okay. and make sure what we're allowed to do, you know, especially with
receiving funds, you know, donations, how how to apply those funds, everything like that. So, that would something we'd have to get and look into um to do that. Not to say that it can't be done, right? Because we want to make sure that we do it properly. >> Absolutely. >> Be like a sponsorship. >> Yeah. >> Right. Sponsorship,
>> right? And it can be something like that, but >> if if it ends up becoming something like that, um because it's not unheard of. other people have donated, you know, things like that, art or whatnot to to a to a structure. So, this is not the first time we've heard of that, but we
want to make sure that if we're going to do it, we just do it the right way. >> I always want to do it the right way. That's that's why I asked you. >> There's no way to do it. >> I agree with S that when you present present the art, don't present, >> right? What I was thinking >> because I want them to vote on what they
really want and then what they really want, we'll figure out a way to pay for it. >> Well, I was thinking, do we have a color printer, a copier? Yeah, that >> we could just if we just do the first two pages. >> I think it is helpful to >> and then the last page showing her. No, you're fine. And her la the last page
showing what she has actually done. Just take out this third page which has got the price and stuff on it. >> Or I can just provide you very quickly even tonight. I can send it via email. >> Oh, you can send it to S >> or send it to S. I should send it to you >> and you can send him the whole the whole
package. I think it is helpful to for them to know that it could be very simple and graphic or more complex. So the descriptions of the tiers are also helpful and the examples as well. Just erase the prices. >> Yes, that's what I want. That's what I want to do. >> So I'm just going to tweak this document
a little bit and I'll send it over to you. >> Perfect. That would be perfect. >> That'd be great. Thank you, Gota. >> You have a couple questions. Please feel free. >> Oh yes. Oh, sorry. I just wanted to say I really appreciate all the research you did on this and the older mound is like
right next to me and apparently the burial mounds were under my house. >> No way. >> But the old It's It's interesting that you put this little hut on top of this mound with the Indians because that mound used to have a little hut just like that.
>> It was a ceremonial mount. So it depends what were used for and so if the chief would get to live on the mountain so in three days it flooded and we had a hurricane she was okay you know and all the plebans you know with that but yes so the the mound was a
very prominent yeah I know but I'm just scratching the surface here so like I said I'm hoping to learn so much more because the woman who runs this workshop that I volunteer for tomorrow first of all I'm going to be able to hold actual artifacts, you
know, used by humans thousands of years ago perhaps and I'm going to ask all kinds of questions and they want because also like which period are we focusing on these? So the wedom islanders specifically have lived the estimates are from 300 AD to 1,00 AD. So this
would place them about you know 1100 years ago were the last tribes. So like which and how did the culture evolve? Did it change? And the archaeologists are learning new things all the time. So, I'm going to the source literally tomorrow to learn more. >> Yeah.
>> Yes. >> What I brought to when we went we met with the goat, I brought the the stuff that we all had, the pictures um and that's what I provided to her and she took it and ran. >> She really >> But it was also very interesting because
when I saw the wall, I I visited before the address >> and I already the moment I see this is also how I approach my clients. Sometimes I just pass a place and I'm like I can just see something on the wall and sometimes my boyfriend gives me a nod and like they need something on the wall and I just don't have the
vision. So I'm like that's not my wall. Like I don't see anything happening. The way that I imagined this narrative and I only had a few pointers from Linda of what they kind of wanted. The way it unfolded and then the boards that Saul brought it completely aligned like all
of the elements even had the similar placement. So it's Yeah, it just made sense. >> Yeah. Lori and I did the boards. So that Yeah, we we did the boards. >> Better than what we had. >> She says, "This is a lot better than you and I did." I said, "I know."
>> Although I saw your quilts and you are an artist. When you said that you were going to paint this wall yourselves, I was like, >> "All right." And then I saw your quilts and I was like, "Okay." Like you can do it. Yeah. >> No, this is this is this is fabulous.
So, what do we have any questions or ideas or suggestions for change for any of this? >> You guys are also more than welcome to chime in. You're part of the audience. >> I actually if you can if you can give me a separate proposal for the for the ner bathroom. >> Yes,
>> because regardless regardless I I just want to know what that's going to be because one way or the other >> that's a good idea. >> One way one way or the other I think that should definitely go. >> Yeah, good idea. Great idea. That's I had an idea because that would different price because of the scope it's much larger and then you have to um paint on
a different surface. So yeah, I can just send that to you as a separate. >> Yes, please. Yes, because right now, like I said, we're we're in the process of we just finished the roof at park, the restrooms, the roof is done. We have we have plans to redo the fence um and stuff and some other aesthetics through
the park. This of course was going to be >> like the grand like finale and we can do like a new like a grand like reopening of the park. So >> we're still working on the aesthetics part changes throughout the park. But you know I did that that to see that in
the bathroom as you're pulling in would be amazing just to start off. >> Yeah. >> Um >> what I did when I started I started the thought and then I never finished. I just went off some. Did you notice that the welcome to Olner Park had because it
doesn't say to Martha Olner Park, it says to Olner Park. So it was a very um popular feature in Victorian ornamentation is to have a little portrait or like you know the business owners when have you had anything like for a business? So I put her portrait.
>> I see that. Yes. Yeah. >> Just so that people know. >> I think it should. Yes. >> That's her. >> Yes. That's it's it's perfect. It's very good. If I if I had to critique anything, I I just don't know if we need both logos. >> Um, we would we want to really
>> is this logo going away? It's not >> the city seal will always be the city seal more an official standard. So, you know, of course, the clerk will use it to officialize documents, but but the new brand that we've been promoting and letting letting citizens know, you know,
>> um that's what's going to be coming out is, you know, the actually that sign is going to be changed to the new brand, the signs out front. Um we have a meeting this Tuesday to discuss the entrance signs to the city which will incorporate the new brand. Um so, that's that's what's going to actually be
coming out soon. The city seal will always be in the code will always be the seal but on an official level just you know you know for dignitary or official documentation type of stamping type of use. I really like how you use the the
um the silk house seal in this. I I really like how you did that >> and then the inter like other silhouettes. You know this is really just an idea. >> No, I I I really like how it it's not separate. It's it's included in into the it's part of it.
>> So, I think that that's really nice. >> But if you want to take out the logo or to switch something around, all of that is um >> and then the only the only other thing I would recommend is maybe make the um fishing the shrimp boat a little bit more.
>> Yeah, that shrimp boat is good. We didn't even talk about that. I don't think that >> I did send her a picture. >> Was it on the board? Oh, okay. >> Fishing like a boat or something. >> Yeah. Okay. We're That's indicative of Port Richie the shrimp boat. So that's one of our >> There will be a fleet because you know the wall is so much larger than the
little pixel. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yeah. >> Window I had to draw this in. This is just give your eye an idea of how it will flow into the narrative. >> The pictures you used are so much better of Martha and Aaron Richie and the
>> you know because I want I there's only two floating around and you're always ending up at the same Facebook post. That's why it was helpful to go to the historic Pasco historical which I'm a member now and they're convincing me that I should volunteer which just might because it would be a
nice quiet afternoon. >> Um and I wanted cuz you know she lived a long and rich life like really she really was one of those larger than life characters that just energy. a woman with energy and
creativity and I like I think all of us feel most humans experience we don't really feel the age we are we feel you know when we were a little bit before before we integrate into our new so I
didn't want to represent her as this the picture I was given she was this you know in the 60s she was much older but I wanted her more in the full of that's much better >> more vibrant more vibrant She I heard she used to ride her horse around town. >> I want to hear
>> she had a carriage house and behind her house where the horses stayed. >> I heard her house was filled with antiques and costumes and art from all over the world because her father was interested and was an art collector. So she was just a very well-rounded cultured woman that had an interest in
her life. And then it burns down. >> Yeah. Everything in it. >> Oh my god. >> That would have been a museum. >> Yeah. So, thank you. I mean, you did a lot of work. It's really beautiful. >> I I really like it. I don't I don't really have any suggestions to be honest
with you. I mean, what we gave her were were our ideas from the committee. Um, and you incorporated them, I think, really well into this and I >> like the storytelling. Yeah. >> That that's the amazing part of the whole thing.
>> It's beautiful. It's a great job. You did a lot of work. >> Thank you so much. It's just the beginning. I mean, you know, of course, if the city does go with me, then the whole process of the design will be really >> more intricate, more detailed. Yes.
>> And there will be a lot of communication and there's at least three major changes that the committee can imply, but I think the direction is right already. I don't think there's going to be major changes, but everything will be, you know, all the items will be dotted.
>> Perfect. >> Sounds great. >> All right. I don't have anything else. What else should I Anything else? >> Any recommendations? >> Oh, no. I love it. All right. So, what we'll do is um Tuesday is the next council meeting. So, I'll present at
least this one and we'll try to get the other proposals from the other artists. >> I'll call them. I find out where they're at because they were both coming and they both were working on their project to present. So, >> so we'll at least get their proposal and then we >> probably in Newport Richard, but I gave
him the address. I said so Fortn that that happened with our jump circle. They went to Sims Park even though I I gave them the address and yeah, they went downtown first. >> Oh, and so I'll I'll bring this to city council. Um we'll get copies for
everybody. >> Well, let her send her >> and the version without pricing. >> Yes. Yes. See, let's let's Yeah, I we recommend to do that that version first and then like I said, we'll we'll talk about pricing. >> Yes. >> You know, and if you get the Lori, if
you get the other ones, >> you know, before tomorrow night, let us just, you know, let me know. Okay. >> And uh you know, pick them up >> um and make those copies as well. So, >> if we don't get them, we'll go we'll put it off for another two weeks. If we still don't get them, then I mean we've
given them sufficient time, right? >> Yeah. >> Are you going to put a sealant on this? >> Yes. So that was included in the materials because the sealant is made I just can't even more. I had really good luck with them. They have the best pigments. Even without the sealant, the
paint really lasts a long time. This sealant does have to be reapplied after a few years, but it gives you like at least up to five years of complete protection and acts like a sunscreen for the skin almost so that the colors don't fade and
it protects it from the elements. This wall is lucky because it doesn't get full sun exposure from the south. It actually is located in central I think it actually faces north. Yeah, it does. northeast but it doesn't get that direct
bombardment from the sun so it's okay but it's always good it's always a good idea to protect it so that is included in the bit >> good >> great so much >> thank you thank you for coming we appreciate it very much and we'll be in touch
>> like this I'm not sure what the Okay. See, >> you want to see it? >> Um, so we'll move on to the next agenda item. You guys good? Any questions, concerns, anything, suggestions?
Oh, off topic, but um I saw that the Nature Coast, the Chamber of Commerce is going to have a mixer at um Cancun and we wanted to have that type of
thing. So, why don't we join forces with them >> instead of having two different things? It's kind of the same. >> Okay. So, the next agenda item is meet your neighbor events. So, that's what this is regards to. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, when did you I didn't notice the date.
>> Next Monday, January 12th. >> Want me to write to to them and make sure that it's okay if we promote it as a as a meet and greet? >> Can we Can we do that? >> Can we um >> I missed the date and place. >> Okay. The uh Cancun Beach on the 12th of
J. next next Monday the January 12th um just for Don for your information what we have done in the past for meet your neighbor um just to start getting people together from different you know you know your neighbors and you know but your neighbors across 19 or you know in a different neighborhood. So we used to
do meet your neighbors at we used to um go to different businesses, restaurants and they would you know they would put out chips or something like that and then we all bought our own drinks and stuff but it was basically just to get together um just to meet different people from different parts of the city
and so we did that every month for a long time. Um, and usually we didn't do it in the winter, in the summer, excuse me, sometimes because it was it gets really hot, you know. Um, so we were re vitalizing that. >> Okay. >> So, we hadn't done that while
>> I think it's great. >> So, yeah. And it was it was good. Sometimes we ended up with all with the same people and but every once in a while we would get new people to come out. So, it was nice and that way we got to introduce them to the city to the different committees and stuff, you know, if they had questions. Um usually some of the um the city employees
sometimes the chief would come up or you know fire chief or city manager stuff like that different people would show up okay uninvited you know everybody's invited but you know like it wasn't like the city manager we can do that we can certainly change it to do that if we
want to you know highlight a a department but we haven't discussed that in the past so >> so yeah you want to reach out it's Ronald McDonald you want to reach out to I sure would. I mean, I wouldn't see why he wouldn't want it. I mean,
>> and is it's okay to mix. Um, the Nature Coast Chamber of Commerce, they're having a what what they what they call it? >> I think they're calling it a meet and greet. Networking >> networking. >> Networking or do we should we keep it separate?
>> I I don't see any. >> Okay. >> Either way, but it's up to you >> because they're located in Port Richie. So, >> what time was this again? A lot of networking groups will join forces and it's usually a more successful meeting. >> Let me see if I can find it. >> It's at 6.
>> Oh, you know. Okay. And where is it going to be held? >> Um, it's in Cancun Beach Bar and Grills 5330. >> The old old seaside >> Treadway Drive. >> You know the old right next to Hooters. You know that
>> for us old people. You said 6 p.m. 6 p.m. 6:00 to 8. >> And I gave Don a heads up about this. You you guys can think of a future boat ride, maybe two. But >> on this just if the elected officials, if there's more than one council member
there, they they've had their ethics training and their sunshine law training. So they know just I think you'd wanted me to check on that Nancy. They all know the rules and they just don't talk about. >> Okay. >> Perfect. So more than one can attend and we'll all be there. So I'm sure if
somebody breaks the rules, somebody will let somebody know. >> But they can't. >> Yeah. Perfect. Okay. So we'll reach out to Mr. McDonald about Cancun Beach next Monday and then we'll put it out on our website.
Okay. Anything else about that? Um what what about the next months? So we can start looking at February and March. Anybody have any suggestions? >> I think I thought we were going to do it like every quarter. >> We can do it every quarter if you want.
That's fine. >> Yeah. >> So not February. >> So March. >> So if we if this will be in January, so if we if we do it every quarter, then we'd be looking at April, >> right? >> Okay. So, let me put that under
long-term goals so that we can look at that next month. How's that? >> Sure. >> And then we can uh maybe Christine and um Rob will be here hopefully and then we can pick a spot then. April, we said. Okay.
All right. Um, we've also in the past as the CIC, we would go to different parks in the city to do cleanups. Um, we were looking at trying to consolidate it with the, um, clean up Pasco. I could not find a
specific date. The national date is clean up by July 4th. That's the only thing I had. I couldn't find a um >> Well, there there one in March 17th, >> but I couldn't find I I found that >> day though. >> Yeah.
>> Oh, yeah. We were you were going to check that. >> Yes. And so I was looking and all I can find is 2025 date on the Pasco site and I I cannot find a new date and the then there's a national date like I said it says by Yes. S. So, if you go to Keep
Pesco Beautiful on that on that website, that's the one that handles their cleanups, right? March 1st. >> Oh, geez Louise. How come I couldn't find that? >> Because it's not on it. It's not through Pasco County. It's Keep Pasco Beautiful. >> Oh, I was going through pasco county.gov. Oh, that's okay. >> You want to go You want to go to keep
pasco beautiful.org and um they're the ones that that manage the cleanups. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. I'm glad you were you told me that. I really was going through Pasco County. So, we should probably do it on that date. >> Yeah, that's a Sunday. Excuse me. So,
let's set it up. You want to set up for the same day as Pasco County so we're all on the same page? >> Mhm. >> Carolyn and Janet. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> What What park do we want to tackle? >> Well, the biggest park is Waterfront
Park. So maybe we should >> start there. >> Start there. Hopefully we'll get a lot of people so that we can really tackle that park >> because that's a jab. We've done that in the past. >> We have done that in the past and we we went out two by twos and all over the
park. So yes, >> is this one of your items? >> I think so. >> Okay. >> Um perfect. >> Linda, give me a moment to I made a mistake. >> That's okay. cuz we're in 26, not 25. Give me one moment. >> No problem. >> Oh, that's why I saw the date. It says
March 7th. >> It's March 7th. >> If they're in there 26. >> Yeah, >> I had to read the paragraph. >> They didn't change it. >> They have to change it because >> Yeah, >> in the small paragraph it says March 7th, 2026, >> but the highlight says March 1st, 2025.
I don't know why they have that. They got to change that. >> I was confused. That's why because I I was quiet because I looked and I was like, wait, but I'm like I didn't notice though the year. >> Yeah. So now we're March 7th. >> Perfect. >> March and we'll do Waterfront Park.
>> I'll make a flyer for that. That'll be >> that. You will, Caroline? >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Seeing it now. >> Yes, please do. >> Perfect. And what time do we want to meet? >> Oh, um, >> we've done eight in the past. This way people can go on with their days. You know, we usually
>> done by 10:00. Then people can go on with their days if they've got something planned. >> Can we put 8 to 10? >> Yeah, that's fine. 8 a.m. to 10. >> Just FYI, the event committee is planning a March 14th fishing tournament in the city down in >> seafood festival and fishing by resort
around Nick Park for the program. >> That's March 14th >> waterfront and then fishing. I don't know where it's >> I'm not sure. I'm not I'm not sure if it'll be using waterfront part or next party's working on that. But anyway, good
timing. Yes, the festival's at waterfront and then the fishing tournament I don't know. I think they go out of Nicks Park >> probably. Yeah. >> Yeah. But I'm not sure. But I know it's Waterfront for the festival. >> Okay. >> Also at request of council earlier
um you know last year just a few months ago they requested that we do like a citywide cleanup. Mhm. >> Um, before Haleem, we used to do we used to set up several dumpsters here at our public works facility yard and people would would bring would bring like old
stuff from their garage, things like that. We did a clean up like that. So, we kind of want to bring that back since since this hurricane season was >> was very very good to all of us in the community. >> Yes. So, this spring we're going to do that and um when my when the public
works director comes back, he's he's out on leave right now. When he comes back next week, we're going to start talking about dates on that for as well. >> Good. That was going to be one of my questions. So, that's great because I got stuff to add to that pile. >> Hi. Are you one of our artists?
>> How could you tell? >> I don't know. I'm Linda. >> Nice to meet you. Come on up. >> I didn't get a chance to change. >> No, please. We're very informal here. No problem. Okay. >> You want to you have Oh, sure. If you have something to hand to us, that's
fine. But otherwise, you can you can just stand there. Just give your name so that Caroline can record it for the minutes >> and your your your business address or whatever. And uh >> Okay. >> Thank you for coming. We appreciate you coming up >> again. Sorry I'm late. >> No, it's it's fine. We appreciate you coming. Thank you, sir. Uh, my name is
Rob Sardella. I'm in P Harbor 2815 Country B1 34684. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> Welcome. So, I'm here for the uh I don't know if
I pronounced right. Parker Park. Yes. >> Yes. Okay. So, the white wall here >> I have sketches to show. >> Perfect. Yeah, absolutely. I didn't I didn't know if anybody needed easel, so I brought
easels out. I didn't know what anybody had, but you certainly can. >> I'm a little more old school, so >> I get you. >> That's great. >> Rather informal, but >> that's okay. >> You want you want to come over so that Sure. In
fact, you guys want to come? >> Sure, we can pass them down. >> We can pass them down. >> So, it's kind of a what they call mid-century modern, kind of a 50s. >> Okay. >> Um, so they're the images are kind of
almost on panels in a way so that each one of them kind of tells its own story. >> Okay. rather than having an overload of images. I think if if they're kind of sectioned so they tell their own story because I feel like each one of these has a story behind it and rather than
have again just an overload of images if they all have their own sort of section it's like they tell their own story. Okay. >> So I kind of have them bracketed this way. So this is kind of what I consider the middle. That's the There's a section in the middle where there's all the holes and there's sort of a middle
section like the first thing that you see when you pull in kind of thing. So that's what this one is. >> Okay. >> Um go on to this one. So here's our our Indian. Then we have our what I'll call our >> poor people. Yes. >> Um
>> and then so so there is a >> a unified color background and I feel like these are a graphic to separate all these guys. So again, you've got, you know, we got the names of them down here. And even if there's a little blurb to tell about them, I think is kind of it kind again tells a story rather than
just showing a name and just a picture. No one knows who they are. >> Right. Right. >> So >> very nice. >> Thank you. >> Very nice. >> Kind of partial team. Thank you. We have our Johnny Cash. We have our our flag, our boy Nicole, and
our fishery with our shrimp captain. >> Thank you. Thank you. Um, and the water I had mentioned to Lori real quickly, we could run the water all the way across the bottom on both. >> U, I don't have it necessarily on this part, but the other one I do. And this
way, again, we can have our fish down here. We can put them sporadically. This particular one, I don't have the water across the bottom, but you get the >> Oh, yeah, we we get the This is just a rough sketch. This is this is not concept. >> Yes. Yes, we understand that. Perfect. Thank you. There's that really cool kind of
>> I'm not sure what to call it. >> Top across. Yeah, I love those things. They're like angled bricks. I love that. So, >> kind of have that be part of the graphic. >> Okay. >> So, instead of just include it, I like the highlighting it and we're contrasting the color in there. >> It's almost like a almost like a rope
frame type thing. >> Yeah. You know, remind me of I actually brought this up. You have like a frame. But remember back in the day when you used to take those little gum wrappers and make little strings out of them. That's what they look like. They're closed up just like that. That's the first thing I thought of, right? You know what I'm talking about. Yes, I do. >> Right. Right. And I have kind of an
alternative one that I come up with that was a little a little different. Not so much with the 55, but just something again for that main. >> Yeah. This way like that that uh that it's like a moon shape that that crest that you have. So something like that. It's almost like a sun or a moon back
there. >> Excuse me. >> Like it. >> Thank you. >> I like it very much. >> Great use of color. >> I know. Absolutely. And this is kind of give you an idea of what my work looks like. >> Oh, look how neat. >> Thank you. That's a That's beautiful.
That's an early learning center in Port Charlotte. >> Oh, we are gorgeous. >> Thank you. Just go to So that's my obviously my sketch, my concept, but this is what my finished work looks like. So >> very nice. >> Thank you. Very, very nice. >> It's a command. I love it.
>> Yes. >> They actually have the animals name. Oh, do they all? Yeah. So, the kids have to look for them. It's kind of cool. >> Good. >> Yeah. >> Did you have a price sheet? >> I No, I have a uh I have a like a computer copy, but I didn't get approved.
>> Okay, then. Yeah, just send it to my email and I'll give it to Linda. >> Okay, that >> So, what we're doing is we have to bring this to council. We've got obviously um we had four artists invited. So, you you would have the second artist that shows up. >> Yeah. But we're still going to see if
the other two artists want Can those be put on >> um some sort of like papers that we could >> Absolutely. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> She's taking pictures, too. >> Oh, okay. Good. >> If you'll allow me, I'd like to make some copies of them. Yeah,
>> because S can make you can make a you know thing for the council because this has to we're the committee that's organizing this but this has to go to council for their approval for their inputs but you know they might want to tweak it add something delete something whatever so um so we're just like the pre
>> preamble the filter the filter yes the first filter >> yes so um and that he'll take that and then we'll bring that to council whether it be this coming Tuesday >> okay >> whether or not we But if you get the price sheet to Lori, we're not going to give that to the council right away.
Just we want them to look at the ideas and suggestions and find out >> what avenue they would like us to go into. >> And also everything's negotiable obviously. So >> perfect. Yeah. >> Perfect. >> Yeah. >> And I I had mentioned to Ari about the shower area that's up there.
>> Okay. >> It needs a little updating. >> Need a little help. >> Well, they they are we are doing a total park renovation on all of our parks. Okay. >> They just put a new roof on Olden Park. They are going to be refurbishing that. I don't think they planned on touching
those tiles that had um a mural on it from years ago that was kind of like a historic type thing and and it kind of stayed kind of nice. So, I I don't know um if the council made that decision, but it was kind of like in the thought process from what I understand. Okay.
>> Um but you know, the the Yes, the the bathrooms need help. But when you look at the um the tile in the floor by the restroom and then he sent me a picture of like um a sea turtle. >> It matches that matches.
>> Yeah, it matches like a um >> so I sent this. >> Oh my god. >> You know what I mean? So it it really say I've got another one. This is one I just finished and I saw this. So that's exactly what it looks like. >> Yeah. >> Oh wow. It's exactly
>> that's what the floor tile looks like. Yeah, it looks beautiful. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. So, what we'll So, what we would like to do is, you know, take this >> to council for presentation along with whatever proposals we get. >> Okay. >> And then um we'll go from there. >> Sorry for the looseness. >> No,
>> I'm not really a big uh >> You're an artist. Well, everyone's going to this these Procreate type things and I just I like them, but I feel like they're almost too nice sometimes and and if you can't reproduce that image in the end, >> I start with this and you see what the
finish looks like. So, kind of I like working this way better. >> Yeah. And if you can send us some examples of your work as well, >> then we can get that printed also give that for the same reason to give that to council. This is a mockup, but this is actually what it comes out to be to look like. So, if you could send some
examples of your work, that would be >> wonderful. Yeah, I'm happy to. I have plenty. >> That good. >> Yeah. >> Awesome. >> Thank you so much. >> My pleasure. >> We appreciate you coming. >> My pleasure. Thank you so much. Take a seat. >> Yes. Yep. Just take a seat and he'll make copies of that for you. >> Sounds good.
>> And then uh um do you What is your email? 57 heaven >> heaven above >> airbrush at Gmail. >> Okay. >> In fact, if you want to hit me at that,
I'll send back to that. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Perfect. Super. >> Thank you so much. We appreciate you coming in. Truly this text is over there. on brush. >> No, airbrush. >> Air
>> 57 heaven airbrushgmail.com. >> I thought he said Juno. >> No, >> that was Gmail. >> Gmail. >> Sorry, it's >> No, I got you. >> It was long distance over there. >> I probably should have done this at the beginning.
>> That's fine. Thank you. >> Yeah, you're welcome. >> Perfect. Great. Thank you, Rob, very much. and thank you so much for taking your time to come out. >> You have to see it though. >> Yeah. See that? Yep. >> Okay. Um I was going to wait for Well, I wasn't
going to wait. There's there was discussion about the fence at Olsen Park at the planning and zoning last week or two weeks ago and it was kind of let me I'll wait for Sal to come back and we'll talk about
that. Um I don't know what they plan I don't know what the ultimate decision was because it was kind of with the park getting a mural on this side. It from what I recall it was going to be part like vinyl. Then it was going to be this
and then it was gonna it was broken up. >> So that we can't see the mural, right? >> No, the other side. The other side. Not not the mural side. The other side of the park. >> Okay. >> By the house. >> Okay. >> By the house. So let's wait till he comes back to discuss that. So, if I own
the fence, I would show the product of the fence. >> Yeah, because I I mean, it would make sense to me because when I was there looking at I'm like, well, that's going to be silly to have part of a fence, then we're going to use this fence that they already have and then
another fence. It's not It's not continuous. It's not >> It's going to be like somebody threw it together. >> Yeah, it's going to be broken up. And I And I don't know if it was a money thing. That's That's what I need to find out. And I didn't ask this out. So, um I I didn't know if it was a financial issue or I just think for aesthetics,
we're putting all this time and money not only into a mural, but to making the all the parks look nice. >> And then and then just ignore one wall. I mean, what because of fencing, I don't know. It just seemed kind of silly to me. But, um that was a couple weeks ago, so I could be recalling it incorrectly.
So, let's wait for him to get that. >> Somebody suggested that we buy the city buy the house that's next to the park. I mean the vacant is it just a vacant piece of land or >> um my husband grew up on a big lake in New Jersey and they had a clubhouse for
the kids where they had like arcade games, ping pong table, they had ice cream shop, that kind of thing. He had a great childhood. It's just something nice to consider if we ever had the money for that. >> Yeah. At one time we also looked at getting um
YMCA here in the area. They had already done studies that we there is a need for one in this area, but they need the city. >> Oh, thank you very much. >> Donate the land for that. Thank >> I remember.
>> Oh, that came out great. Oh, yeah. Okay. I used a piece of white paper on the back. So, >> yeah. No, that came out great. Thank you. >> So I I did have a specific question for yourself. The last thing on the agenda is the ultimate park fencing opposite of
mural wall. Was there a discussion in planning? I think it was planning and zoning about that fencing and it was going to be like what was the end result of that? >> Uh we had a proposal sent to council uh I believe last month. um they want us to
do some tweaks to it uh because they want us to utilize we're basically going to use the same type of row iron fencing that's in the front of Waterfront Park. Okay. >> So, what we're trying to do um >> is we got the Tampa Bay Regional Planning Council um working on a concept
for our four main parks, Nicks, Fresher, Waterfront, and um >> and Olter. >> Right. And what we're doing is that we want to start basically incorporating that same look at every park, you know, so they stand out as Port Richie parks. >> Yes.
>> So, one of the things was we were going to do the same type of fencing that's in front of Waterfront Park at >> Olner. >> And um we brought that to council or the CRA board actually because it's a CRA project. Um the board is going, you know, board asked us to uh to do some tweaks to the proposal and we're going
to bring that back at the next meeting. >> Okay. All right. So, it's not because my recollection of it was it was they were going to use part of a fence and then there was going to be a different part of a fence here and then and it it and >> what they want us what they want us to do is um along the
um I would say southern side there's a white uh vinyl fence and they want us to run the row iron and meet up to the vinyl fence and then at the very end towards the seaw wall start up again with the with the black iron. And so
basically incorporating that white vinyl fence because in the board's opinion, you know, why have two fences but up like that, >> but I don't know how it's going to the final product. >> Do we own that white vinyl fence? >> Huh? >> Do we own that white vinyl fence? >> No, that's the that's the owner's
property. That's the owner. >> So if they take down the white vinyl fence, then we have no fence, >> right? >> That's right. >> Yes. So and we tried to explain that to the board that the park itself should be fenced off. Mhm. >> Um, you know, it should be its own
isolated area, but um, they want us to incorporate that for now. And then so that's what we're going to be bringing back to them. Uh, because they they wanted to just cut the price of the the proposal to, you know, for the fencing. But the fencing includes doing the whole front, uh, redoing the whole front,
doing the gate, and then running along that side. And but but unfortunately you'll have a gap between the the where the where the white white vinyl fence runs. >> So >> that doesn't sound
>> aesthetically pleasing to my eye. >> You hadn't seen that council meeting. We we proposed the full and uh >> council thought otherwise. So we went back to the drawing board. that we can re-engage and make sure it's as aesthetic as the other
wall across the way. >> Well, as a citizens advisory committee, we can als you know it's our job to make suggestions. They don't have to follow them at all, but that's that's >> we can make that suggestion. >> We also have some leverage. I think the white fence, we can't find a permit for it. So,
>> that would be helpful. >> Don't look. That's different. Just kidding. I'm really just kidding. >> Well, that does make sense. How about if it comes down or a hurricane or something? Then we're going to have that gap. I mean, it doesn't And there wouldn't there be a gap between both fences like that little Nobody can fit
through there, though, right? >> Yeah. But what we're going to what they what we're going to do is basically we'll use a small section of of broad iron to like literally butt right up there. So it would it would go straight, then have a little turn to butt to the fence, let the white fence run, then
you'd come out just that just a smidge, you know, and then continue downward. So it would kind of like straight indent, white vinyl indent, and then the rest raw iron. And I'm I'm not a fan of that because, like I said, just the way it'll look. And then if the if the owner
decides to take his fence down just for any reason, you know, if enough damage happens to it, he's like, "Okay, well, I'm going to take my fence down, but not, you know, you know, not build one for years." We're going to have that gap. So, we would have to do it anyway, one way or the other. So, >> I mean, just for aesthetic, we're making
the stuff look beautiful, you know, with a with a mural and we're doing the bathrooms and jazzing it up and and doing it nice and then >> Yeah, >> that doesn't make any sense to me personally. >> We're fracking with you. I'm sorry. We're tracking with you.
My mindset and his mindset and I'm sure's mindset is the same. So, okay. There's probably a re-engagement on our part that we want to do because it's >> it's in the possible. >> Okay. And does this would the C would
the CAC as a as a um not a motion but a suggestion, would that be something that you would suggest to council? Oh, absolutely. >> Make a motion to conversation. >> Yeah. So, >> so that would be a suggestion. I mean,
that's part of our jobs is to make suggestions to the council as to what the citizens want. So, that would be a suggestion from us. >> And you got and you got to present it how you want to be viewed, you know, in your parks or representation of your
town, your city. >> Absolutely. >> Community. Because I would think that if they don't spend the money for the fencing, you would have to put some vegetation or something there so it doesn't look odd, some small hedge or something so that it doesn't >> I would just go with the fence
continuous because that person that fence should come down for any specific reason >> security reasons and stuff. Yeah, I agree. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Just odd. >> That's all that's on the agenda. Does anybody have any suggestions, ideas, comments?
Nope. Anybody uh up here including you three gentlemen, any ideas, suggestions, comments? >> Great. >> Okay, we're good for a motion. >> Uh motion to adjurnn.
>> I second. >> Motion and seconded. All those in favor? >> I >> opposed. Okay. reading a