--------- No, I sent it. I sent the one with the E and one without the E. I sent it because it came back. That's okay. But I did send it. She was just out there. Will you send that to
her? She knows here. Most likely 14th Tuesday, May 13, 202. I stands nationisible for all. Madam clerk, I have roll please. We're here. Can you guys hear us? Yes, we're
here. Take sound on the recording. Yes, we can hear you. Can you hear us? Can you hear us, Kim? She said no. Now I can hear you. Okay. Madam cler roll, please. Chairman John Eric Cooper
here. Vice Chairwoman Caroline Gonzalez here. Member Salary here. Member Adam Thompson. Let the record show that member Adam Thompson is absent from today's meeting. Member Julie Keenan here.
Member Kim Lair here. Member Debbie Robinson here. Member Janet Applefield here. Thank you. Okay. Uh first up uh we have no minutes. So comments from the general public. I have no sign up. Anyone like to speak?
See I bring back to committee business. Item number one, Centennial Events budget discussion. Since Adam is not here, is there any questions on the budget or budget requests? Um this is uh I know we had I don't know if we want the packet. I think we got one in email that was a little more
updated. Yeah. And even that one there's been some uh changes uh on the mayor's ball ticket sales. Those are uh coming in today. More this afternoon. Yeah, a couple more came in. I You say a couple more came in this afternoon. Is that from I had two more um checks or no? Oh,
online payment. I spoke to um a gentleman who was purchasing online. I walked him through it. Okay. So, he he and his wife purchased tickets for the mayor's. Who was that? Richard German. Okay. Okay. Richard and Joanie. Okay. Yeah. Um and I I know we had a couple
had six today. So, you probably don't know about those. I think they did those online. Okay. So, tomorrow some of those online was a roll in, too. So, we've got some updates to that. But, any other questions on budget or any comments? I don't
think. Okay. Okay, we'll move on to item number two, finalizing Centennial Festival celebration events for the vendors. I'll pass that over to Vice Chair. Is that you? Yes. Um, so I guess with Veronica, just to go
over the the vendors so we could have it. Um, just explain a little bit of the papers we have in front of us. Okay. So, in front of you, I have Sorry. So, in front of you, you have two spreadsheets. They're each by date, May 18th and May
17th. Um, I'm trying to get my laptop. Sorry. Um, well, you have two spreadsheets, one for each day of the food trucks and the vendors that we have. We have roughly I don't have the number count in front of me. Give me one second and I'll get the
number counts for each day. Um, 23 looks like on this list for the 17th. I'm sorry. 23 on the 17th. 18 on the 18th. Take one as I counted fast. Yeah. So we have um so those are the list that's
everybody that's confirmed. Everybody that's highlighted with the exception of one which is artistically made um has been spoken to, emailed and confirmed. Um on the 18th you'll see festy flavors. I I need to locate that at via the um
application for them but I have spoken to them. Um, but everybody has been confirmed and everybody has received an email um from me letting them know of where to go. So, yes, on May 17th you
have 24 vendors and I believe you only have a majority of them are tents. I think you may have one, two, pro, possibly three or four food trucks on the 17th. On the 18th, a
primarily all food trucks. Um, you have four or five uh tent applications for that. And that has been the 18th is completely maxed out. So, we're we're completely closed with both events. And uh now I'm just
notifying everybody, making sure I have all their paperwork and make sure that's up to date. I have a question for um Lola's Blind Date Books LLC. She contacted me. She has a book trailer that she's making. So, she wanted to
know she she said she doesn't know if it's going to be ready or not. She's almost I know she got insurance on it because I saw it. Um and she's uh she had posted it. Um, she wants to know if she's able to bring that like her instead of having the tent, she would have her her trailer and I said I have
to check because you may have to get inspected for that. Um, she said she would have her own generator like for the lights and stuff for at night. But I told her since it's a trailer, I would have to check and I would let her know if she has to pay anything for that to get it inspected. Does she have to get
inspected? There's no food. It's just books and lighting. So lighting, correct? What kind of trailer is it? I'm sorry for breaking up. I couldn't hear it. A book trailer like with books. Like you read. You mean? Yes. Okay.
Okay. Sorry. The the volume's not good. Sorry. Yeah. Lola's Blind Books. It's Lola. Got it. Thank you. Is it How big is it? Trailer. It's the tent was a 10 by 10. Yeah. The trailer is not that I've seen. It's not that big. It's like
a little one that people could just go in and look at the books. I don't think it's like a whole big one. So, she probably needs two spots, I guess. It's probably 20 foot. Yeah, it's not. Let me see if I can get it real quick. Yeah, I didn't get any pictures for her.
Uh, she was just Yeah, she She's non food. Yeah, she's non food. Um, but I told her I said I that I really don't know. Yeah, I'd have to ask the fire department if they need to inspect it. I mean, if it's enclosed and it's a trailer, it probably see if it has a
fire extinguisher. Oh, yeah. It would have a generator. Yeah. So, if it has a generator, then yeah, it would probably have to get inspected. I would just tell her to just It may be a little bit bigger than It's hard to tell by the picture. You don't have one of shows the outside of it, do you? I know. I mean,
that's all I saw. Yeah, it needs to get inspected. Okay. So, I can tell her that the I think is there for food trucks. They got to park on the gravel. They can't park on the lawn. Trucks are going to park on the side. That's correct. On the gravel side. I wonder if that would she would have to be parked on the
gravel with that. Uh pro probably. Yeah. Yeah. We'll just tell her to do the tent. I mean, the situation when they situate themselves at the park, I'm going to let FD do that because they have to be 10 feet apart from each other when they have a generator. Um so I'm going to let
them situate them out there. I I've tried uh Caroline and I to discuss not eliminating vendors and and leading them out. So, they are aware that there may be duplicates uh food sales, you know, of the same types of foods. Majority of
them are not, but they may have two items of the same, but they're all aware of that. Good. So, um now the fees, because I have people asking me about fees, and I think that's going to be discussed later. on council agenda on
council. Okay. But the fire inspections which is what that's going to also be discussed. Okay. So vendor that's the only Yeah, that's the only one. That's the only thing. So the the food trucks have a fee of a hundred bucks for the city, right? Correct. For our vendor
application, right? That that's nowhere to be found in any code. It's not in a code. Right. That was just on the from so from the standpoint of waving um I mean technically it doesn't exist. I
mean it should be well there was there was no intent to wave that it was it was just waiver of the tents and stuff. Food trucks would still pay the hundred bucks. Right. Right. Right. The tents but I I think again you're you're have a lot of people mad at you when they find out that you wait for one, you didn't wait for the
other. And and that's, you know, one of the things that going to talk about tonight as part of that is make sure you understand that all those food trucks that are going to, you know, be paying the full boat, you know, when they find out. Well, well, the P for the food trucks, the the fire inspection was
above and beyond the the $100 fee, right? Well, it's for the tents as well, not just food trucks. It's tents. The fire inspection. Yes. Right. Right. But that that'd be waved across the board potentially, right? So where would
be the the uh disagreement because food trucks aren't getting a this is across the board from a fire inspection. The only the because they're selling food. Um I think if I remember right, the committee said food trucks still pay ts do not.
That that was a decision we made. Right. They have a more intense inspection. Now, you may have some food trucks that may pull out if we charge. Just so you're aware because that's what they're saying. We're not making enough to be able to hold these types of fees. So, the food trucks don't what whoever
contacted me, it was a food truck and I when I posted and everything, I said food trucks, they have a charge. Nonfood truck like tents are not charged. We were waving those. Right. But the food truck because that's another thing that we discussed. I think it was last meeting or the one before. Yeah. that
because food trucks, you know, they're going to make they're selling food, so they're going to be making more money in that sense. Like items, it's it's particular. If you like that item, you purchase it. But food, hot dogs, burgers, things like that, they will make some type of money that we were thinking of. Um, speaking of foods, I do
have a request from Easy Dogs. I saw them at the car show, and this is just they had asked me to ask, and I said, I'm going to bring it up. I don't know. They said because they have been at the car show, they've been um at May 18th
and then they wanted to be on May 17th, but I don't know. I don't think they're on it. Um I was going to ask you about that. Easy dogs. Yeah. Um I did speak to him today. Did he say anything about the 17? He didn't say anything to me about
it. Oh, cuz he said he wanted to do it and then um but he says he goes, you know, every time an inspection he goes I I'm doing he goes if I'm being inspected for one day, it's the same thing on the next day. And then he goes, I'm really not a food truck, but he had like the
propane, he does the hot dogs there and everything. So, I did take pictures of his setup and I said, I'll I'll let them know, but I don't know if anything could be done because you have to get inspected. Everybody's getting inspected every day. So, I don't know about that. It's easy. Veronica, he was at Boom on
the Bayou and I'm pretty sure he had an inspection for last year. Yeah. See, the problem is that I don't want to not tell these people that there is going to be a fee. Oh, yeah. If there is going to be one. I agree. So, and if I'm thinking they're a tent vendor and they're
telling me they're a tent and they come in with a generator, I'm not going to know that and they may be inspected and they may be charged. So it it's difficult for me to to know that information. When you talk about inspection, you're talking about a fire
inspection which for is on council agenda night to potentially wave. So there would be no charge for inspection. So what I'm confused on there's two charges. You've got a fire inspection and you've got the participation fee. Correct. Participation fee from a food
truck perspective was not waved. Tents were okay. Fire inspection will be talked about tonight. Okay. So, the fire inspection is different. So, there's two different fees. Two different two different fees for food truck. Fire inspection is a new fee.
Fire inspection and then there's a vendor inspection. The one $100 fee. No. Well, it used to be, but now there's a Was it 150? Yeah. So the when we when I added the fire fees or whatever those
those uh had 150 so it' be 250 normally. Okay. So that makes sense because then if it's 250 then that really cuts in. Yeah. That's big difference. Yes. So what about the hot dog guy? So so the the question is Veronica. So what about the hot dog guy?
I I don't know what he is. Well, if he needs suspected twice it'd be don't call us potentially, right? So doesn't matter. If he was there at the car show, he was just inspected, right? But for the tent, I I get I don't know. Well, the inspection would be every time you set up somewhere.
He would be great. Okay. As far as I'm concerned, again, he's got a generator and the fire department, you know, then that's what they're going to discuss. whatever inspection from a fire perspective, if it's a tent, food truck, whatever, it'll be
wag still going to happen, right? But there's no cost, right? So from a vendor perspective, okay, they're getting expected. They'll call us. It doesn't matter. But he he wouldn't be charged $100 where a food truck would be, right? The hot dog guy. Yeah. Because he's a
tent and not a food truck. Correct. Well, he's he's a tent, but he had he had a He has his truck with him. I think a little trailer behind it. Maybe it wasn't. He has something. He has it hooked up. Got like a little trailer that is Yeah,
I think he would be I mean to me that's not a tent. That's I see him more as a food truck. That's a food truck. He has it hooked. He has something hooked. I don't know if it's I can't remember. I thought he had something else behind there, but he has
something else here. Yeah, I see a food truck is ones that are preparing food to eat right there and then whether it's tent or not and then if it's already like prepackaged like there's coffee in bags, there's nuts and bags. It's cooked at home and it's different. Yeah, that's that's what I consider a tent vendor.
Even if it's food or not, but if it's prepared on site, I would consider that a truck. I me too. This I would consider that. That would be my distinguished for that. But that's up to the whole committee. I would argue you have snow people too that prepare those
right there on site that are tent not food truck. So would you consider that a food truck or a tent? It's food prepared on site. It's not food truck confirm whether he wants to be on Saturday. Then also they would have a
generator and everything. Is there anybody that's for their snow? It has to stay cold that's disputing the $100 charge for the food truck or some of the food trucks thought it was free. Some of the people have thought that they were free. So, I haven't really put out any
information about fees other than the fire inspection that we will be determined and I will let Did they say why they thought it was free? I didn't get into specifics with them. I mean, I don't know. I'm just collecting because when we when we discussed it cuz she
talked to several vendors and she we I specifically asked, "Did you tell the food trucks are free?" No. So that's why I kept telling them I've had about a handful of them tell me it was free and that they would have to pull out if they have to pay the $100 vendor fee and then the the fire fee and then that is when I
said well let's hold off on the fees at this moment because that's going to be discussed. Yeah. I never discussed fire fees because I didn't know about that one like in that sense that was too separate but the vendor for sure food truck I would tell them it's $100. I even when I posted it on social media and everything, I specifically said
non-food truck vendors, three food truck vendors, 100. So if I if I'm looking at the 17th, the only food trucks I see on here are one, two, two. Is that correct for the 17th?
Terrific beverages. Tyrific beverages and whole cow. Everything else is a tent. That sound right? Bestie flavors. What are Do we know what they are? They're They're a tent. Oh, no. They But the other stuff is in bagged. Huh? All they
do is Bestie Flavors is flavor. But on May 18th, they're listed, too. It says food truck. Oh, okay. Yeah. On the 17th. Yeah, they're on both. Yeah, they're on 17th and 18. Let's So 17th, we got two food trucks. Is that Am I
right? Yeah. I mean I Well, three cuz Fessie F is blank on this. So I guess if they count them three Well, yeah, because I don't have their application. Okay. So they they expressed interest and I put them on there, but I don't have their How many thought it was free and said they'd
pull out? Probably about a handful. Like I said, four. Well, probably no more than a handful. I don't know how many how many food trucks you can fit in your hand, I guess. Is it a handful of like number fingers? What's that mean? Five. Half. So, no more than five. No more than five. So, now going
back to the 18th. Yeah. I mean, I we will get a different answer once I email them and let them know whatever the fee is if they're, you know, the majority 18th are food trucks. So, we've got we've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
10, 11. So, if five pulled out, we'd still have six. And I think probably our last You're still gonna have plenty. I don't think you're gonna It's gonna hurt you either way. Now, I will say this, in the past, what the city has done is if they
didn't sell any that I think we refunded the money. So, and I I I wouldn't be opposed to doing if they didn't sell anything. And, you know, they didn't have to pay anything. So, zero. Well, I wouldn't say zero, but if you
don't sell enough to cover your cost across the board, I mean, that's that's an option if we want to do that, but I mean, it's up to me. For whatever reason, we didn't we
didn't do that last time. Um, there's a couple other food trucks that are on the 17th also, like the Badass Burger Buggy and there's a Hunts Barbecue. They're food trucks. Oh, okay. It didn't say food truck. They don't say what it is. Yeah. So, I still have to update some of
that because right now I'm just trying to get everything. Yeah. You know, it it's it's a lot for two days worth of stuff and collecting all this paper. Yeah. So, you know, and that that's the application fee is that's
That's not set in code that really it could be anything you want. So I think the understanding was because my understanding when we voted was for the inspection. Yeah. We thought the $100 was the inspection fee. So I think
if we if we would vote again, I would change my answer because I thought it was for the inspection. I did too. So like if they have to get inspected, yes, because that is a cost. But if not, then I don't know. Well, there is a
cost. We're just willing to eat it potentially again if council, right? But that's a separate issue. We were talking about I guess the 10 I mean the the application fee which is 100. In the past, have these food trucks anticipated
that there's an inspection? Brand new. It's brand new like right now as a brand new I mean we've never we've never had an event since we put that in the fireworks well
that was 4th of July last year it wasn't in place I don't think did you charge an inspection fee last year for 4th of July I don't think we had it in place we did that at the end of the year last year if I remember right that was done oh was so it should have happened last month I
I don't Did we charge them last year? That's what I'm askension. So they were paying 250 bucks. I know we I think we I know we refunded somebody money back because they didn't make money or something. So food trucks should anticipate that they
have to pay an inspection fee. Well, to be honest with you, even tents should expect to pay something because nobody has an event where everybody just sets up a shop for free. Nobody does that. That's this I mean obviously we want to have I think we we want to have good
participation for our event obviously and and Caroline kind of advertised it that uh there's no fee for tents but we never we never extended that to food trucks so but we can it's
it's unprecedented that you would just come here and sit in the park and have a audience not and not have to pay for the use of it. I mean I but you still have to pay the inspection fee. There is no there there tonight the council
will wave the fee more than likely for the inspection fire. There's going to be a meeting tonight. There's two fees. The fire inspection fee relatively new 23 whenever that is what's on the agenda tonight to potentially be waved. The other fee is $100 per food truck, which
was set by our application fee to be able to come into park, set your I I appreciate all that, sir. My my question is is whether the food truck people should anticipate when they go to these venues that there should there is an
inspection fee. They should they should answer that when they travel around that again I don't I don't know the people's rules but yesen they would expect some fee what what it's for is that it probably breaks down into something and
there's probably a fire expect fee component of it potentially we didn't used to have one here okay so but yes they I mean just in general there's a there's an expectation that if I'm going to go somewhere that I'm going have to pay for to be there. Now, what that's
for, well, that makes that makes a difference, though. Um because I'm not adverse, like Carolyn said, I'm not averse to waving the fees for the participation part, but not the inspection fee if they're anticipating that they should pay an inspection fee.
And that's going to be um something that the city is going to have to, you know. So, you you would say that we'd wave the the fee and they we charge them 150. I would final inspection. Absolutely. Well, so that's that's more cost than
than I know. I know. Well, I I understand your point, but that that actually increases our cost. But I don't think that's like the fire inspection is not on our agenda. Like what we can discuss is the fee for the vendor. I think you're looking I think you're
looking too much into what the fee is for. Just just a fee in general is goes without saying. There's gonna be a fee for something. Right now, technically our fees would be $250, right?$100 $150 for spot fire inspection, 100 for the
other. Okay. So, we've already decided and and we can we can change that. We've already decided that the $100 does apply for food trucks. Tonight is on the agenda to wave the $150 fire inspection fee, but from a consumer perspective, they expect
to pay something. handful five as I found out tonight is a handful. So it's a is a uh they expected that it was free and they may pull out if there is a fee. So that's the data that we have to make a decision on but everyone else is
willing to pay the $100 sorry except for else is willing to pay the $100 participation fee. Yes. No. Yeah. Other than the handful that are gonna other than those couple that I had ask about it, it's on the
application. Everybody else, yeah, I haven't had any issues about that. Okay. It's mainly the tent vendors that had the issue with paying and those have been Okay. Matt, do you have any comment on this?
No. For me, I would make a decision either you charge everyone or you wave it for everyone because So you would be because I don't want to be dealing with it that night when people show up and say, you know, it's not right that you're charging me, but right over there
someone's selling food. You're not charging them. Well, it you're and that's I see that point. I mean, but if I go there in the park, I'm probably going to walk right by the book truck because that's not me. I might not. I mean, my wife would
stop, but I would not, right? But it's not it's not you as someone that's going to be attending it. It's going to be the people that the fence, which are the people that's paying it, that are going to look at it from the standpoint of they're getting something that I'm not,
and they're making money and I'm losing money until, right, I overcome that. That's also what I'm saying. The rationale behind it is is that we're anticipating the food vendors, food trucks are going to sell. I mean, they're going to they're going to sell.
The book lady may not. She may come out there and not sell a book. and some of these other people. Again, I I think though you're you're thinking that because people are making money, they'll overlook the inequity of the charge, right? Yes. Correct. Well, that is that
that is the assumption, right? And and so again, there may be some think it's unfair, right? and and as you know, as you've learned in in the time you've been mayor, people have long memories and and if you ever hope to get them
back, you don't want to have that that issue. My opinion would be Well, are you would from from from a city perspective, are you good with waving across the board? No, not at all. You're asking the wrong question. I mean, I I I charge everybody. I don't
agree. Yeah, I I don't agree not charging. I I think you should and but but you know that that you know that horse is out of the barn. That boat sails. You're not going to get there. And so I think you're really left with how do you make it equitable for
everyone so you don't have that issue. You know, again, if if you hope to do these things in the future, you want one people to be positive wanting to come back even if they don't make money. You want them to be positive that, you know, it was a great event, you
know, but you're you're kind of setting it up that if they don't make money and and I lost money and you know, they wave for some people who, you know, maybe next year has their own food truck, right? And is going to be a competitor
and they'll see it that way and they just remember it. And and your solution to that to that argument would be what? Leave it off. wake up. I mean, from the fire inspection, you're, you know, I'm I'm guessing you
got four hours of inspection time at the most outside, right? Worry about that. Yeah. I mean, it's it's not a huge cost to the city. You know, people may scream about it. We're losing money or whatever, but it's probably a couple thousand dollars in Well, in in fees
definitely. I can't remember the number I put on there, but it's a few thousand dollar fees, but but from the standpoint of what the actual cost is in terms of loss, it's Mr. Chair, I can ask two questions 50
bucks maybe, right? Few hours. Um and and I think again if you're looking to create an environment that you know encourages people to want to come back in the future and and wants to tell people of their even if it wasn't a
great experience if they didn't make money how great of an experience it was. So maybe it gets someone else to to you know want to be a part of the next one. Then the next one is Jan. Jan, go ahead. You might have you
might have um covered this already. Are tents being inspected as well? If they have the things that require inspection, generators. Okay. Um talking about the fee then for the fire inspection. Can we use any of our
sponsorship money to cover that? And then we can then you can wave it and we can use the money that we have in in our budget to cover that to cover what the the inspection fee for however much it's going to cost us for the city. Well,
it's I mean it's that's minimal. I don't think it's important that we it's what? It's I don't think it's important. It's by four hours of work paid overtime. I mean couple hours. It's when you do the math of what you're losing in terms of revenue when you know someone may may
bring that up. But again, I think I I would I would hope council would look at it from a standpoint we're trying to do something good for the community. Um, you know, the actual cost is less. Yes, we're we're losing it, but if not for the event, we wouldn't be talking about
that money, right? That's correct. I do want to say because I don't want to lose focus in the sense of this is the centennial. This is a hundred years. This is something that we are giving back to the community. So people can come and sell their knickknacks. They can sell food. They can sell anything. I
don't I'm not opposed for food vendors for the application to be waved. As far as the inspections, that's not on our agenda today. We don't discuss that. I mean, that's going to be for council. Um so for me I think and that's what we have to think this is the
centennial 100 years for everyone um from small mom and pops to bigger people um companies things like that I think this is something that it's good for us good for the community good to invite people to Port Richie that are not from Port Richie to show that this is what we
can do like the car show the car show was amazing and if we can start doing that more often then that'd be great and and show what our little little city can do. So, um that's my part. Yeah, I I will I will throw this out there.
Um the the amount of participation would probably change if we would have said food trucks are free. Phone's probably going to be ringing off the hook right tomorrow to try to get in there. So, that's I got another point, I guess. Um because
if you take it back to the vote, we all assumed, not working for the city, we all assumed that it was the $100 was the inspection because the food trucks, they have the generators and the propane tanks and that kind of stuff, which is why we left it on the vendor, I mean in
the food truck. Um, what if we wave the fee, participation fee for everybody across the board and go with what we assumed what we were doing and just have a lowered fire inspection of $100 for the people with generators. I
mean, that that's kind of what we were proposing. Like that's what we assumed we were proposing before, but I don't think that's on our agenda of that. I mean, that's they could take it to council though. So, on council J and I is to wave it, but that doesn't
mean that we couldn't have a motion to lower it. Correct. But that was what we assumed when we were voting that that was because we were voting for the inspection for those because obviously they could blow up, you know, they kind of need to be inspected where somebody
just come with a tent with books and stuff. They don't need to be inspected really. I mean, they kind of get glance at it, but they don't have like a major inspection. That's what we assumed we were voting for. That's my point. So,
I don't know what you else thought. So, right. Well, and I again, it's it's the cost is no matter what it's for, it's that's the cost, right? I was just talking for equality, right? So, so you wouldn't have any fees at all for the tents that
don't have generators, but then you would have So, a tent vendor, which we're not correct. Let's use the book lady with the generator for lights as an example. Well, I would I would I would make her pay an inspection fee. She she would have to pay which which is right now the
generator based on her current methodology, she wouldn't have to pay anything. Well, that's why we're put keeping her in a tent because she would if she brought the trailer. Yeah. Well, that's why she asked if she could change because it does have a generator and we're going to tell her to
bring a tent. So, she doesn't have to have that. So, I I I think I think the question that we need to answer, do we want to have a fee or not? Regardless of what it's for, we have to make a motion for that.
Yeah. Take a public comment. Sure. Yeah, absolutely. Please come to the microphone. State your name, address. Sorry. Just because you're done with your car show doesn't mean you can't follow rules. TJ Lombardo, 88 Bane Avenue, Spring Hill. I'm just trying to help out on the vendor situation for
fees and stuff. If you if you want to charge a fee and you want to go straight across the board, why don't you pick something that levels out everywhere? So, maybe you picked something like like $25 no matter what is a fee for a vendor to come in. But if you have to have an inspection because you have a propane or
there's some type of thing. Now there's that additional $50 or whatever. And then this way and again you don't want to over exceed your food vendors because everyone thinks it's free and you want to have 40. You don't want to do that. You want everyone the food vendors to all make their proper money for being
there throughout the 8 10 hours or however long it is. So this way if you this way if Tom Jane or Mary oh you pay 25 I pay 25 too. Oh I pay 20. at least everybody straight across the board is on a vendor thing. But if there's an inspection because there's a a generator
or a propane and that might be an additional $50, then we just have to make sure that applications are just going to say that straight up. So if people know that, okay, well, I don't have propane. I'm selling popcorn or whatever it might be, you know, then they know that they they're not going to get inspected or if they're selling
cupcakes or something like that. But if they have to have an inspection, everyone's going to be responsible. Well, if they want to come to the show, they have to be inspected because they have a generator or a propane tank and it's, you know, harmful that there's an additional $50 or something, but I'm just trying to Yeah. I just think about
it from with all the shows that I see and stuff. Yeah. My input and that's why anybody saying anything, I pay 25. Oh, I pay 25. Oh, I pay 25. Everybody's at that same number, right? And it's not too astronomical that people are going to be like, I'm not going to go. I can't pay pay $100. Yeah. You know, so just to let you know, most of the food trucks,
they have to make that 800 to a,000 or whatever for the day in order for it to be successful. Okay, it might sound like a lot to us, but they go through a lot to get there for those five hours. It's not just showing up. They have to do all their pre buying and purchasing and
pre-cooking and packaging and whatever it takes in order to run that event. So, it's not just those hours that they're there. There's a lot of time before and time after cleaning the truck and all that type of stuff. So, I just got to weigh everything into consideration.
So, we're talking about 1,500 bucks, 15 food trucks times 100, right? So, have you budgeted $1,500 that you need? So, we've got seven or so unencumbered currently. I mean, do you need 1,500?
was I mean did did you plan on having $1,500 from the festival? Oh, we don't plan on any money coming in. And and by the way, the city didn't budget for $1,500, right? My point being that that again and and
I'm I'm I'm trying to help you out because there will be some blowback between there'll be someone that will raise this issue either right before during or they'll come to a council member or council
meeting afterwards. Right? This this is supposed to be a positive thing. You want goodwill, right? Again, you weren't counting on $1,500 to begin with. If you don't need $1,500 now, it just makes it
easier for everyone just to say there's no fee to it. And and people will be happy. You know, people that were expecting to be charged for it will say, "Oh, wow. This is great. Love the city." people that that you know weren't
expecting say, "Oh, they lived up to what they said or what I heard or what I thought or whatever." So, I I just I I understand the desire to talk about it, but I I think it really doesn't it doesn't make any sense to do it now
because again, we're already out the door with a you know, a large number of it anyway. Okay. So I'll make a motion to wave the fee for the food truck vendors of $100 for the application that what we have in
our agenda so that it would be similar across the board from everybody tent and food vendors. So motion is to to wave the fee across the board for all participants. For all participants. Okay. Is there a second? I'll second. Can you repeat the motion please? Very
hard to hear. Yeah. The motion is to wave the $100 fee for all. It's already technically waved for the uh um tents. The tents, but it's just gonna be waved across the board. So, no no fee for participation
from any vendor, food truck, or otherwise? That's the motion. And there's a second. Yes, I can. I have a second. Is there any further discussion on that? I just have a question. Did people pay the $100 already on the application fee? So, nobody's paid anything. Nobody. Nobody. I haven't
collected any fees from Okay. Okay. That's all I need. That's actually a good question because I on the budget there is $50 food truck from Edwin Morales for 50. Was that you? I don't know what that is. That's what I was just looking at. That we don't know. I don't know what 50
is. Do you know who Edwin Morales is? And and I don't The only $50 charge we had I think was a was a tent originally maybe. No, that was for um the business expo. Oh, yeah. But that did he do we
have food truck at a business expo? No. No. Did he? I don't remember a person by that. Okay. We might have to deal with that. I might have to get with Adam because there was somebody who paid I believe it was for the the car show in error. They thought that they
could pay and they paid $50. I had to I spoke to them and I had um our third party cancel it because they were they were unaware that the food truck and car show was full. Um, so they canled their payment. I dealt with that. So I got to get with Adam just to confirm that that
might be it because that's the only thing I can think might be. And that's the only one on here. So $50, correct? Yeah, there's an odd number for that. So we'll figure that out. So I got a motion, a second. Any other discussion on that? S Kim, you got any discussion on that?
Do we have any discussion? No. I mean, I'll be honest with you. this close to the wire. I, you know, I I kind of agree with the city manager that we should be charging something, but the thing is is that we have to make a decision across the board. So, I mean,
I'm I'm for moving forward. That's fine. Okay. Any public comment? See, I bring to a vote on favor 65 saying I I opposed. I was a I4. Yes. Yep. Yeah, that was a
that was a eye on both of ours. Okay. So pass unanimously. There was a little delay. I got your eye in the nay column. So but it unanimous pass. Okay. So that portion is settled. Caroline, if you don't mind due to the zoom when
we're speaking, try to come forward. So you're meeting then is only to determine if there'll be no charge for um for for inspection. Is that correct? Thank you. Anything else on Centennial
Festival celebration events? Um, I had one quick question. Yes. Um, on the Did Saddle pay the two vendors? I sent that to Adam. I mean, not S. Adam. Yes. I don't I don't know. Don't
know. Okay. But I mean, he has it. Okay. All right. He's usually good. Thank you, Veronica, for today. So, I don't Yeah, it's he's usually good about it. So, I do have a question on this. Um, Veronica, do you want like this is the
the list? Can I send start sending emails tomorrow? I said afternoon. I was going to send I have to yell because so I can um send emails to them saying like this is your setup. Please arrive at 9:00 a.m. like everything. So, I I took
care of that already. I got I already emailed every single vendor to be there at 9 and everything. highlighted. I've emailed and told them the time, the location. Oh my god. Everything about their spot. Their spot. I I'm not I'm going to allow whoever's
there to do that because I'm not going to be present. So, okay. So, they know what time they're going to They know what time. So, for the 17th, I set up for 9:00 to start arriving at the park. The door the gates will open at noon. And then on the 18th, uh to start
arriving between 3:30 and 4. So, the gates will open by 6 so they could be set in place and their inspection can be done. Perfect. And then um so then I could just send a follow-up email just a followup email because you know I
may I may have I'm a human. I may have forgotten someone but I think if I highlighted them I sent them an email and I've spoken to them. You did. So great. Thank you. One thing off my list. Thank you. Um, is S in charge of setting
or helping us? S, are you helping to get this set up for the spots? Who's setting up the spot? So, we're doing the Maya. Sal is doing the 18th, right? S, you're doing the 18th. No, I mean, who's physically making the
spots? Janet's asking. Oh, Ron, you have to put your microphone. Jan's asking who's gonna handle at the park to set up the vendors. So, you're doing the 18th, right? 17th.
I'm doing the 17th. Public works will be on site on the 18th. Um, and we're going to set them up uh according to code. You 10 ft apart was what you and I discussed today, right Veronica? That's correct. The food trucks have to be 10 feet apart. Um, and the vendors can you only
have I think a handful of vendors, four or five vendors for the 18th. And on the 17th, you have I shut my spreadsheet down. There was 20 something 22 23. So out of those, I think you have
three or four food trucks. So that we can spread out on the 17th. So the 17th you'll be good because that's a majority is going to be 10 vendors. So you're going to be fine. Um the 18th is where public works, Southside public works will be there and they will separate
them 10 ft apart and then the the 17th or the 10th they don't really have a a space. So I'm setting up for the 17th working for and I have volunteers. Okay, good. I just want when people arrive that, you know, someone will be at the gate to meet them and say spot number
seven. Here it is over there. Or send them a map or something. So we look like, you know, No, we're going to look like we're organized. Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully. Don't you have a copy of the site plan for the 18th? No. She doesn't have it.
No. Okay. I'll get it to her. I have it. You'll get You'll have it first thing in the morning. Okay. S, did you order the wristbands? Yes, they're on their way. Perfect. Thank you. Um, and that's all I have for
the 17th. Do we do we have any volunteers signed up to help on the 17th? So, I have my husband and my parents. Um, they'll be helping. Other than that, I don't know. Did you get in touch with the two on your sheet? I did, and nobody answered.
I thought you said all those people from your I be there on the 17th. I'll be at the mayor's ball Friday. So I feel um Me too. If I get home early just realize that you have things to do the next day. I'm coming home. Are you going to sleep
over at city hall right now? No, not quite. But uh I can come and help out and and on the 17th and the 18th. Yeah, I have two kids signed up so far. Okay. And then I have um I did
leave my number with the guy from the light of world light of the world church. He has not gotten back with me yet, so I'm not sure. Um and I'm hope and I got to get back in touch and see if I might have another couple kids, too. So, and that's just to help with the lawn games for the most part. And
fire department will be out there both days, too. So, I can always coordinate with them if I need to. And public works will be there. So, I think I think we'll we're used to it from Fourth of July. So, we'll be in good shape. When are they coming? You also got to remember the parade, too. I was just gonna
mention that. So, I have a question for TJ on the parade. Um, how many people do do you know that we would have more or less with the vehicles? 40. Okay. And then, um, can I
like you told them to meet at Brasher Park? I did see that. And then the meet up later. So, I did. Perfect. So, then Brasher Park at at like 4 I'm going to move myself that way so I can help out set up the parade, but I need help. So, like I said, I'll probably take my
parents and my husband. Um, so if anybody else can be in Brasher Park to help set up the parade, whoever. Well, you're going to be there, too, because you're you're in the parade. Can we get a golf cart or something to run back and forth or run there so we
don't have to park there and take up space and then walk back? Now, I don't have a golf cart, but what I was thinking is one of our vehicles is going to be in the parade, so I'll just take that vehicle and line it up and then I'll be in it. So, I had Easy Dogs call me today and they wanted to be in the
parade with the hot dogs, but I told her I told him to call you. They have hot dog suits and pulls up in hot dogs. Oh, they want to walk in the parade, I guess. Yeah, I guess. And put one of their trucks maybe in it.
So reach out to them, Carolyn, because I I don't know anything about that. That's cute. I like that better than throwing beans. You throw hot dogs. My question was is we have no help. No. Is that the answer? No, we've got about
five or six people so far. Yeah, we have five or six people so far. Okay, that's not that's not going to cut it. So what I mean what are we going to do to help like minimize that so there's not I mean do
we any ideas like if we have six people that's not going to be enough well I think we probably need to figure out what we need people for right to figure out how many people we need because that's we've got to the child there's going to have to be somebody the
dump tank this inflatable thing that needs to be too. I got that covered. The registration table is the one spot. Did anybody talk to anybody about how the dump's even going to get filled? They take care of that. I think Matt has
the fire department going to fill that, but I I have to confirm with him. We have already we spoke like one of my volunteers would be in the dunk tank like assisting. Um you said you have covered the obstacle course. I've got Yeah, they got
that covered. Check in. I'm going to be in the check-in. My mom already said she'll be in the check-in. Um All right. Well, I can move to check in when you go to the pre. Just keep in mind it's a long day. Oh, no. Like I said, if we if we're doing it like like this like like
I said, I when I said I'm doing this, I am doing this. If it's a long day, it's a long day. Nine hours, I'm doing it. Um, but I also my father is going to be assisting hopefully in the and my husband in putting people where they need to be like the day of the vendors
and stuff and then with the parade as well. So I mean what about waiver forms that I don't know. Did we ever get that with the city the waiver forms? Yeah, we need the waiver forms. Yeah, because we could have them fill
that out that day same day. It's It's just like a name, address, and a And we need somebody that's gonna be manning the city table, too, with the t-shirts and coins. Yeah, that's Daddy, you're great at that.
Those can be together. I could do it the 18th. Oh, okay. She could do the do the 17th. I could help on the 18th on that one. The 17th, I don't know. Um, we need the waiver. We'll get the waveform. Oh, they can check in in that. We can do that together. We don't need that many people in that sense. Um, but yes, I do have a
couple more options. Yes. Amanda, do you plan on helping to or? Yeah. So, may Mary, we'll have a couple people. Yeah. From my side help. Um, I I can help limited. I'll be in a dunk tank sometime. You are helping.
I'll be in the dunk tank helping. Um, which speaking of the dunk tank with the parade. Um, because I say I've been parade. I need time to get dry and changed and in the parade. Um, so we probably need to run
the dunk tank and and I I think Matt was talking or Sal s did you talk to the department heads about the dunk tank participation? Did you get any volunteers? We did talk to them on Monday, but we don't have any volunteers as of right now. Okay. Adam say he was volunteering
several shifts. We'll have to like dry you off the throw you back in. Yeah. I know Chopper said he would he would do a shift in there. Um Adam did, right? Or was he while he's not here?
Yeah, it's for charity. Yeah, mayor. Always good when they're not sitting here. Police and fire, I believe, are going to in the parade at some talked about that. Yes. Okay. the the dump tank will be shut down between
like four and six regardless because and does that that has a cover though, right? It does not have a cover. It has a fence around it. Okay. Cuz we need to that we need to put somewhere that we Is it going to is it going to operate after the parade? Probably not. Right. Probably not. When we shut it down, you
can just drain it. Well, don't you think after the parade you want to go in the water? I may want to get dunked at that time. I guess we we create a shift after that for you while the drum circle's going on. They can be dunking you. There might be people changing their mind with how hot it is. Depends how long it takes to
drink. Yeah. And if the fire department is filling it, so we got to be But that's going to have a fence around it that's lockable, right? It's like, you know, like a security fence, but it's it's enclosed, right? I mean, yeah, but I mean it's like you would have at a
parade, you know, like the fence along the road. Yeah. little the barricade. Yes. My thing is that we go to the parade and then we don't want to leave that unattended because of that's a child. So my question is so when we go to the parade is are we obviously have
to have because the the festival is still ongoing at Waterfront Park, right? There will be an EMT or fire truck still there. Correct. One or both? There should be. There should be. Okay. And we're positioning the dunk tank like
right up there by where the fire trucks and EMS are so that they would be able to oversee just make sure the kids aren't climbing through the fence. I mean, there's a fence all the way around it that would I would assume that the kids would be watching the parade. There shouldn't be a whole
lot probably you probably shut those things down. Well, it'll be shut down, but just on chance that because it'll still be full of water. Somebody has to man somebody to somebody from staff, fire department or police would be there I assume, right? S they would have to be. Can we have Can you repeat that
question? Will there will there be anybody from staff, police or fire or otherwise in the park during the parade to keep an eye on and secure the the dump tank and the the kids thing that are shut down? Regardless, police will be there. Um
police is going to be there directing traffic. Um, public works will be in and out of the park, especially between the parade and the event on the 17th. I'm sure that we'll be able to have something where either we can rope it off or put some cones up or put a sign up or anything to do for that. Um,
that's that's not going to be a major concern. Okay. So, and like I said, we're going to have committee members um, you know, on scene with the table. So, whatever we have to do, I think we'll be able to manage that. I don't think it's going to be a problem. Okay. Okay. And the obstacle course, we're
just gonna kind of unplug it while we're gone. Okay. And unplug it. Yeah, it reinflates in in a matter of minutes. Okay. So, I think we're I'm good with the Centennial Festival. You're good. I know. Yes. Okay. S, are you
um are you willing to do the dunk tank? I think you'd actually be a good one to be in a dunk tank. You say that again one more time. Uh I'm gonna say it real slow, real loud. Are you available to do a shift in the dunk tank? I think you would be a good
person to put in the dunk tank. People know you. It's for charity. It's for charity. And you're a department head. And I I could go on. We're hearing crickets. I appreciate the sentiment, but no, I will not be allowed to be dunked in the dunk tank. I'm going to be
very mobile throughout both days. Actually, for the for the next several days, I'm going to be very, very busy. Okay. So, as of right now, no, I'm not available. Okay. If something comes up where I can freeze up some time, possibly, but I'm not going to make a commitment right now because of all the
moving pieces that we have going on for the next several days. No, it makes sense. Yeah. If it's if if you get hot and on ad hoc basis, I'd be happy to share the tank with you. I think people's minds will change when the heat starts hitting us. That's why I said I'm always an option. I might be paying the
$10 to dump me. Pressing your own button. I flee press as much. Okay. Um, is there going to be, speaking of that, is there going to be a tent or something over there? Or is this going to be right out in the sun? Are we going to have any kind of You don't want a suntan shade over it? I'd suggest to
wear a hat. Now, weren't you bringing S, weren't you bringing uh Brending a tent? That's not a dunk tank. Yes, there's there's going The tent will be up on Friday. Oh, okay. No, but for the dunk tank. The portaotties will be there on
Friday. I would suggest a hat on sunscreen. So Ashley volunteered for the dunk tank. Yes. I'm not there that day. Sorry. Awesome. So I will not be there Saturday. Happy anniversary. Happy anniversary. Sunday. Yes. Saturday. No.
We hold the duct tank over to Sunday if you want. No. We could keep it there. That's kind of expensive. I appreciate your call setting. We're trying to eat this, too. I bet you are. Okay. All right. Okay. Anything else on
the centennial events, the festival? No, we don't have anything else parade or otherwise or anything on the Did did you get the email I sent you regarding that one vehicle car? Yes. Okay. Yes.
in the parade. Speed cars. TJ has 40 some cars going to be in the parade. So, and they know where to go, I guess. Okay. Cool. Um, can we go to the next agenda item? I can't. Okay. If there's
nothing else on uh the centennial celebration and events, I will move on to item number three, mayor's ball update, raffle items, and I will turn it over to you. I did want to discuss in the email because I see the cars now. So, if I don't discuss this, I will forget. In the agenda, Ashley put three
pictures of of cars, antique vintage cars, vehicles. Um, the one that's a pickup. That was 1925. Yes. The Yingling, that one's going to be there. That's a 1925.
That's a 1925. Uh, yes, I can. Oh, the TV's on. Are you getting the agenda, Janet? Yes. Okay. I'm just making sure. Just making sure. But I don't print everything. That's fine.
And I don't have a computer like the rest of everybody else. Yeah, I just pulled it up on my phone before we got this. There you go. So, there's the 1925 pickup. That's a 1925 pickup. Yes. And then that one's going to be there.
That's owned from one gentleman. And then the other gentleman has the green car. This one, I think this is 1930. Um, he says that this is popular because it's like a gangster car. People like to take pictures of it. However, the bottom
one, it is an a model T and that's I believe that was 1925. So, we have to vote between the gangster car and the Model T. Were these ones you had? You had three other
ones. Okay. What uh you want to come up? Describe what you got? 23 T bucket. Can you come to the podium? Um, yeah, I have a 23 T bucket. Uh, two 23T buckets and one 25 T bucket.
I'll show you a picture if that helps. Does it look like any of these we have up here? Yeah, kind of. They're all about the same. They Oh, it's like a It's got the engines in the front. Front. Mhm. They were at the show.
The yellow one was at the show. Yep. I remember those. Oh, yeah. So, it's kind of like this one here without the hood on it. The engine. You can see the right um And I only asked them because I was asked to ask people. Yes. Yes. And was
the expectation that they would be doing it or that we Oh, they're going to drop them off at 5:00. Okay. Well, there's that curve right there in the front of Spartans. Yeah, we can have them all there. Really? We can fit seven I'm sorry. What? Oh, did you say
something? No. Okay. Um, yeah. I think, um, is everybody getting a ticket or not a ticket? We're getting a ticket. Make sure you turn your microphone on just because Sal and Kim can't hear you guys. So, when
you talk, please make sure um, Mayor's Ball ticket. Mayor's ball. I know they are getting a mayor's ball ticket. They're coming, I think, from Orlando or something. Okay. So, they'll be joining us with Yes. Their husband. I already have them on my list. Oh, they're on list. Okay. That's what I
list. Yeah. And then the only thing already on the list and so are TJ's people. Yeah. Oh, so all all six are covered. Yes. Okay. So the only thing though that the reason why we have to vote on the gangster car or the 1925 Model T um is
because it's the same owner. So he's he could only bring one. Oh, which So this this brown one, that one, the Model T, and the green or the gangster car? I don't know how to say it. Yeah, it's a 1928 tutor. Oh, it's a tutor. I remember
that. The tutors. Yes. Um, he can only bring one of those, huh? He can only bring one. Yeah, it's a tough choice. It's 1925. Let's Which one? Which one was the green one? That's a 1928 tutor.
If you I have it on the screen share if you see it. Let me make sure that the the Model T Can you see my screen, Kim? Doesn't have a year on that. Yes, I I can. Okay. So, that's that's that one there is a 1928 tutor. The other one he owns is the brown one here. The Model T.
The model 195. And that's a 20. He told me, is that 1925? I think he did tell me it was 19. I'm trying to find the It's probably 25 or close to it. 48 probably. Yeah, he
No, he didn't tell me what it was, but he said 25 the 1925 pickup and 1928 tutor. And then he said, "Your email specifically asked for a model T." So I guess he goes, "Which of these would you like better?" So it's I like the pickup. That's just my opinion. Oh, the pickup
for sure. That's for sure coming because that's one gentleman. That's for sure coming. Okay. Yeah, the pickup is coming. The The two that we have to pick is the tutor, 1928 Tutor or the Model T. Oh, okay.
This model T. I do like I like the Model T. That one is definitely coming. She said it's just another thing. We need to decide on the other one. Yeah. But this one is coming for sure. That is coming for sure. He said, "Okay, the the the
one we could choose or we had to choose is this one here, the green one or the I like the green one, but that's not up to me. But I like the green one. That would be my vote. Yeah, we could all vote for it. Um, TJ, from a car perspective is
Oh, well, which one would you They're both awesome. Well, you you've got three. I like the convertible, but that's I like that one, too. Yeah. But you're Aren't Aren't the three you got similar to that? Uh, yeah, but the engine is all shown, right?
Those have a side panel for the engines. Okay. So, we're going to have something similar to this. The engine's going to be showing. We wouldn't have anything like that. Again, that's 1928, so it's a couple years
after. So, you said the the green one, the 1928 is very popular because people love taking pictures of Yeah. And I I I will say that from a Gatsby 20s type of uh the gold rims. Yeah. That would fit in nice. And we won't we won't have any
other cars that even look like that if we don't have this one, right? No. Yep. We do have the ones you have two of them, right? That kind of look like this. No tops. There are no tops. Two se two seats like that. Just engine would be showing. Right. Right.
So that's that's the data. I say we go with the green. The green just to be different. gangster. You want to make a motion for that? I'll make a motion to go for the green. Okay. A motion to second. Any further
discussion? I second it. Any public comment? Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. I. I. Opposed. Okay. Motion carries. Okay. Agree. We'll send an email right now.
Okay. Uh, okay. the mayor's ball still. Anything else? Yes. Um um for the mayor's ball, I was able to get two estimates. Um I was trying to get three, but the gentleman that Daphne
gave us Tampa events, he stated he I guess didn't have time to do it. Um it was short notice on him. He was looking before when I reached out to him earlier weeks prior he was scattering looking for what exactly what we needed. Um so
just I know so the the purchasing thing is you want to try to get three estimates whatever three estimates if you don't get three estimates that can be take consideration and I know Amanda also she tried to get what seven yes so yeah we did send it out you so you
basically sent it out to about 10 different people and you've got two yes so um I'm trying to get them what is this for this is for the decorations decorations real quick about that, Caroline. The one the original estimate
was I can't remember the company name and I don't have it in front of me, but they came back with the revised estimate and they had the brick facade. Is that the one? Is that the company that's going to do like you're going to a speeding down the hallway? Is that is
that the intention there? Yes. To the bar? Yes. Okay. And that's the first company that you had, right? Yes, that one. So, that's in the proposal. That's it called extravaganza. And then they
um with them, she took off the Eore City Lights. But with them, that proposal came out to $5,590. Labor is $2,250. Delivery fee is $450. And this one is if everybody's looking
at it's extravaganza productions incorporated. I can throw up. Let me let me share. But the second quote didn't do the wall, right? They only the LED banner. Correct. The Palm Productions and Events. Um I'm going to say the
person Yeah, she's not doing that. The person for Palm Productions, great. But for some reason, a lot of the things that I would send, I would get back something completely different. Like we said, these are our ideas. And I sent everybody the same thing. This is what
we're looking for. And I would get back a little bit of different things like it was different pictures. I know I sent you because we're with the subcommittee. So, I sent you some pictures and Amanda, too. And it was I'm hesitant with that company only because
I don't know what they're doing. And they were 5925, right? And there Yeah, they're 5,9 that sent the bottle back with the Yes. Okay. Yeah. Okay. That's what I was trying to ask you. I'm like I don't know if I'm asking for the right thing. So
the one the first company that's not I don't know what their name is. We're going to do the facade wall and then the gold with the white. Yeah. And then they would also do the stage with a circle ring ring and then the
um pompus they said they call it pompus. Something pompus. Yeah. Grass. And then um they would have on each end of the stage, but I mean we can probably say where we want that. It's two vases that are big large urns with white feathers
and beads on each side of the stage. And they're she included here, which we had said to take it off, but I saw in the pictures it looks good, draping two entrances. The two entrances that we're supposed to have, she would drape them so that it looks like you're going into
like a like a 1920s area. Um, and then with the brick wall facades, she's going to have whiskey barrels. Um, and then these box
chandeliers, it looks like pearls, waterfalls falling from the ceiling. So, we were saying since we didn't have that many people, so that we can give the illusion of like, wow, like the, you know, the area is full. So that's and then all that she brought
it down um because I I told her I said this is what we're working with if you can find if you can't and I told everybody that so she brought it down to $5,590. Did she in her in original estimate labor with the No, this is this labor. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Did she um the only thing I saw on there that kind of stood out was about the being done at 2 a.m. That's not really fair to the department. Is there any way that we could like talk to them so they can come
and get their I mean if we're done by 10 11 o'clock latest there's no reason why they should have to keep the spart in there until 2 a.m. Right. Or if they can come the next day to pick it up. I don't know. I could talk to her about that. I didn't notice that. Thank you for pointing that out because you're right.
It's to 2 am and you're like you said it's not fair. So I I can find out that's that I think isn't that talking about how long we can use it till or is that they have to have it broke down and out of there by 2 a.m. where you see that where you see that right there. No, go up.
The last line started to Oh, that's their breakdown, I guess. Stage hand strike. Well, that's just a labor charge um in there. Four hours. I would think they
could probably do it another time. Probably the next morning, maybe. Next morning or whatever. Yeah. Well, you have to see when it's available. Yeah. Make sure that they don't have anything on Saturday, which they may
well, right? Okay. We'll work that out. You got that Caroline, right? Yes. Okay. Um, so all we need because this is I didn't get a chance to ask a question. So, did was there uh in the original
$14,000, did they have a a backdrop or something in there that we cut? Cuz it So, the original Yes, we did. We did cut. How much was their backdrop? Their backdrop was for the original one. $492, I think.
I think it was like $492. Let me see. That was like for one and they had two. I think it was two. That's something else that we we were having to cover. So if so the back are
under the 6,000 we originally talked about 350. Okay. Yeah. Backdrop with logo sign. 350. Oh that's different. What was that? Talking about the stage backdrop. This whatever we set up to take pictures in front of. Yes. The backdrop is like when you go to like a
gala or a movie premiere or something, it would have our logo and then probably the logos of the sponsors and then we they were doing that. Yes. The back backdrop with logo sign was $350. Now I don't know if that changes the labor and
cost amount. Can we just use our banner? That is using our This is just for No, you want to have a nice backdrop. I mean Um um Amanda, do you mind coming to the
podium? No, no, no. So on because also you were working on the backdrop and you reached out to Wellington. Y so I know you were you were involved in this. Are they accomplishing with that 350 whatever was needed? So if they if we were to get
that added back in, that would cover everything at that point. It would be just the backdrop. Yeah. Yeah. So I would I don't what I would suggest is since they're going to be here setting all the
stuff up and again they came in at 5590 another 350 still you're still under the 6,000 even with a little bit of labor in there. So it's still the original amount we kind of planned on. I would say have her add back in the backdrop and then we have it all covered. we don't have to worry about it. She did send this is a
revised one like cuz I told her we cuz we spoke about removing the backdrop. So I didn't think about this but now you talked I thought about it. So she did send another proposal. I didn't send it but it adds a backdrop. That's the only thing that was
added and then everything would be $5,940. However, is she going to have enough time to prepare? She said she only needs homework and all of the names and everything like the backlo. So yes, there are 300 and um she said she only
needs three days. Today's Tuesday. Today's Tuesday. Yeah. She said as I tell her as soon as we leave if they're doing it, let her know. Okay. So I You're a big company. Okay. So, I I I'd ask somebody to make a motion to accept the EPI production
agreement plus the backdrop for the 5,925 $5,940. $5,940. Is there a motion for that? I'm I make a motion for the $5,940 EPI agreement um for the decor of
the mayor's ball. Okay. Is there a second? I'll second that. Okay. Motion to second. Any further discussion? S Kim, any discussion on that? No. Okay. And this is this this is a this is
going to be a turnkey decoration setup. We don't have to worry about anything at this point. We wouldn't have to worry about anything. Okay. Um Kim Demiy's doing the dessert table. Kim, yes, Demi is doing the dessert table. Demiy's doing the dessert. Okay.
So that's all we uh Demiy's doing the dessert table and then this will be all our decorations. So we really wouldn't have to do anything just little mini thingies. Okay. So I've got a motion second. Any fur discussion? Hey public comment. Thank you. All right for vote.
All in favor 65 saying I. I oppose. Okay. Motion carries. All right. decorations are done. Um question any more um ticket sales? Yes. What's our tenants? Um so probably
today seven or eight to 10 have uh I've got commitments on and have been purchased. So um I'll have to go through the list that tomorrow when everything rolls in. Ashley had a couple that came in her on those came through as well. Okay, so she
got those. So we're we're we're probably approaching the 100 mark. Perfect. We Well, I patted it a little bit. So we're at 106 right now. 106. Kim, did you hear 106? That was my padding because I wasn't sure if we were going to have the
table of eight and the mayor was still working on um some people buying tickets. So I patted the number a little bit to Dany. So if it needs 106, I just need to know how many. Okay, so you gave her 106. So we're probably close to that, maybe a little
bit under, but I think I think we'll probably get there, but because I know that some other folks are are pending, too, or well, could be pending. Kim, did you hear Did we get um an answer from Nick about his food selections? Was anybody able to get in contact with him?
No, I I'll try to call him again here after the meeting if I Okay. get time. Thank you. Yeah, I'll get that. Go ahead. No, do we know do we know when that company's coming in to decorate? Is it the day before or is the day of? Yes. That's what we talked about. So, they're
coming in Thursday, right? We told them Thursday and then um because we when we were discussing stuff, we said their venue is letting us come in on Thursday. So, then Friday. So, Thursday and Friday. Yeah. Hopefully they would have the majority of their stuff set up on Thursday. So, we could just do ours on Yeah. Or even ours on Thursday, too. We
are doing little um I did want to ask that s did you do you have the challenge coins? Yes. Oh, good. Yes, they're in my office. Actually, we'll give you at least a hundred. Okay. So, you can go ahead and put as many as you need in the boxes. Thank you. So, I'm doing little
uh boxes with ribbons. We're doing those for the challenge coin so it looks nice. And then I did order some pearls so that we could just put on the napkins. Um little fake pearls, but that it looks cute. Um, so that's just a little touch
that we're having. And I'll give those to you after. Oh, thank you. And then I see the attendance. It's 106 people. We're going to have tables of 10 then because we only have 10 centerpieces. Well, you there'd be some tables that probably would have
a centerpiece. You could kind of Oh, we move it. I can get the bottles. The mayor's table should be 10 top. 10 top. Okay. And then all the other ones should be eight. Mayor's table 10 and then rest is eight. So while we're talking about
tables and Kim um I think the original thought was uh open several of the ones that that my wife and I have pushed and and and that that group are expecting to have tables together all set together. I've got other uh folks that want to set
with certain people or whatever. So, I think we should be able to sign as many as possible and then whatever's left could be could be open seating. Um, and what would some of these events, the majority of them really uh has
actually the name on the little card that says where you're sitting at. Um, I don't know how what were you doing from that aspect of it. Were you printing printing off I know there's something about uh steak and chicken. what the the vegetarian I guess what the meal was.
Um, I know Amanda was playing around with with uh some stickers that she could put on the name that would denote what the food thing was for the you know you have the letters C V and and uh S
for the the um chicken steak and vegetarian or I think she she played around had a little chicken had a little cow had a carrot or something I don't know but we could actually put if we did the names uh it might look kind of nice and we'd put the little food choice next
to the name. If you're not opposed to that, I really don't think we should do assigned seating. I think it should be open. I mean, if there's if there's specific people that want put a reserve sign up for them, afraid that they're not going to be able to sit together,
that's fine. But, but at the very least, we need to reserve tables for some folks. Yes. Yeah. At the very least, we need to reserve u um tables for several people. I mean, if you have a table of eight that you you want a reserve sign on, we can absolutely do
that so nobody sits there. We can just mark it off for them. But I just just for comfortability and people just not to feel awkward that don't already know somebody. I just don't want to sit somebody next to somebody else. And I think for the for time purposes that
open seating is just a better option. My my thought was when they checked in, we would just give them their ticket, their two tickets, and then their whatever their food choice choices were as they checked in. Okay. Is it even if we did
that, it would it be would it be too much to actually put their names on it as well? So, I mean, it's it's it's uh I guess a little a little more personalized. We don't have that many to do. So, I mean, I'm okay with reserving
some tables for the select few. It would be nice to have the the actual name on it to take with them and they can The only issue I have the only issue with that is I don't have everybody's name. I just have like end guest and I just feel like that's impersonal to just put like
I mean for instance we I have Jack Mariano, Michelle Mariano because that's how they responded but not everybody responded that way. So, I just don't feel like I feel like it's impersonal if we're just puting putting like Mike Moore in guest because he didn't tell us
what we didn't know what his wife's name was. I'm just using that as an example. I just feel like that that's just impersonal and I I I personally would not want to see that. Right. No. And I wouldn't suggest that either. I I I know
most of them. Um and I can find out the few. I don't know how many we were talking about that we we don't know, but I think we could probably find that out relatively quickly if if we had that if we're going that route. I could probably have that to you tomorrow if if it's doable. Most of them I know to be
honest, but I'm think I'm thinking we just do the place card sticker with the the place card with the sticker on it and then hand that out to them. That's just my thought. I don't I don't know. I just feel like that's added work or something that's going to get thrown in the garbage. Okay. Do we Well, first,
how do they do it in other events? Don't they have a name? They have a name. Every every event that I've been there has my name on. And is it assigned seings or is it not open signed seating, but they have the card has a name. The card has a name. A lot of times there is some assigned seating as well, but it's
Okay. And then do we have especially and and a lot of times there will be tables reserved like Kim's talking about where No, I think that's very nice. I mean for the people that do want that. Yes. Um, first, do we have reserve signs? And second, do we have I think Spart Manif
has reserve signs. Okay. And um, do we have the cards? The place cards. So that's what Kim is doing. Oh, Kim is doing the place. Okay. Right. You're doing the cards, Kim. No, I wasn't doing the Well, I had the cards,
but then Caroline had mentioned that Amanda was doing something with the cards. So I just had food points cards sent out, not place cards. Yeah, she had she what Kim had was the chicken Marcela beast like a card. Yeah, but she wasn't
a little a-frame folded card that says what the meal is. Right. Right. You were doing those. She wasn't doing the list though. What list you talking about? The people's names. Yeah. Well, that's right. So, I know that was something that we were discussing to do cuz we were going to put the little feather with the bead. But are we doing that? I
mean, that's why I want to know, do we have the place cards? Do we not have the place cards? We we don't. I think that the thought was that it it would be part of the the one that Kim had if we do it. Otherwise, we just don't do it. I think it is. But we're not going to have No, I think we should.
If if we don't have all I mean, we can get the names or we don't get the names. If we can get the names by tomorrow, I mean, can we do that? It's a committee decision if we want to have names or not. We have some blank ones that if someone does come
in the name logistically, can Kim get the cards with the sticker off the to her? I don't know how to logistically can y'all get all that done between two different people. Yeah. I mean, we can get it done. We just Well, no. City hall. We come and get it.
Hey, have you already printed your stuff up? I'm sorry. What? Have you printed yours up yet? No, not yet. I was gonna do those on Thursday. Well, do do you have the They're done. They're designed. They're
just not printed. Yeah. Do and you got the stock, I guess, the paper stock to print them on or something. S has business card at city hall that we were going to use for that. Okay. No, not it was all going to be done
through the city. So, um I mean if if if we've got the stock me and man could probably put as many names together as possible and print them off and we could have both if we get done. I don't think we could get the pearls and that kind of thing on them.
Then why unless you do that that No, we can we can work on it. I mean because if you get the names do the names I'll be putting the pro is opposed if we is everybody opposed if we get the names and do those and have them ready
I am not opposed to it though is that rightly you Kim I I didn't hear what you said if if me and Amanda could get the name tags done and we'd basically have the name tag and we'd have the uh your steak choice steak chicken whatever is there any opposition
of I already have tickets. I'm just Okay, you wouldn't have to do anything. I I I'm fine. Okay, we'll we'll we'll we'll proceed
with that then. Yep. So, we're doing names potentially as long as I can figure them out. All right. Okay. Anything else on uh Oh, so so are you So it's still going to be open seating, but they'll have place cards. So when they
go to their seat, they just put their place card there. Is that what you're saying? Yes. Okay. They need to know the waiters. The waiters need to know what they're eating. They look at your card and then they Yeah. Okay. That's okay. So what are we what are we doing?
They're they're getting place cards with their name when they check in. We're going to I'll get the I'll get the stuff from on the table from S and we'll try to do the name tags as well. So when they would check in, they would have their name little name
fold and they'd also have their food choice and they take the table with them. But it's still open seating. It's still open seating other than we had to reserve some tables and make sure some people got together. Yeah. I just need to know how many tables you want reserved besides yours.
So, I already told her, "Yeah, I I will I will formulate that I will formulate that list." Okay. Um Kim, do we hear from Ryan yet about that table or Honda? So, I I've
reached out to him. He's He may use it. He may not. He's It's He's He's in flux. So, and Ocean Honda Ocean did not. Oh, yeah. They said no. Right. Yeah. So Ryan may may use part of it if if he can. So
um the other thing I want to let everybody know and we got to be quick here because we got council me come up six the uh silent auction I've I've got several baskets in the works for that auction raffles type stuff. Um, do we
have any, and this may be a back question, any ability to swipe a card to take that? And no, I'm going to try to because that's another thing I need to talk about. So the money for that we
picked the five charities but the problem is is from a city perspective in order to do a charitable thing you really need to kind of announce it so that all charities can submit requests that they want to potentially be donated to. Um and there would be a vetting
process of who we would choose or whatever um to provide access to that. Um you can't just arbitrarily say because somebody comes by why didn't I get the opportunity to participate in that? So, I've asked the chamber to facilitate the silent auction piece of
it. Um, and so that um that way we can funnel it to the the the charities that you guys chose. So, I'll see if I can't get uh an electronic payment method to take that in. Shouldn't be I think they already have one. So, okay. Do we have
the raffle tickets already? Yeah. Did you order tickets, S? He had tickets. Did you order them? Yes, they're on the way. Okay, so we got that. Do we do we need more than two eight foot tables for the baskets? Cuz I only told that be two eight tables,
right? I think I think it'll be fine. That should be fine. Okay. Anything else on Mayor's? No. Nope. Do we have an update on the um spice run bottles? Oh, uh yes. So, that goes to
council tonight to use the logo. I talked to Jacob with the Point Stillery and he's got to get some they don't they don't they the label has not been approved as of yet. Um and normally it takes a little bit of time. They're
trying to fasttrack it, but as of as of current they have not got it approved. Um so, probably assume best case if they're willing to go ahead and go through with it, we'll have to advertise it at there and and and take people's um information
down if they're interested. Same thing during the September at the table and we can just basically take orders for it. Um and then we'll fulfill it once they're everything's approved and they're in and that that will have to go through Spartan Manor as well. So, do we
have a dummy bottle? Do we have a dummy bottle that we could put on display? Yeah, I'm working I'm working on that as well. We Sorry, I didn't know. Yeah. No, we'll we'll we'll try to have something on display. Back to you. I should know more tomorrow on still on the mayor's ball. Kim, do
you have the PowerPoint of the pictures? I do have the PowerPoint and we're going to I'm gonna ask Tomas if he could give me some of his slides on Friday. Awesome. Um, and then I'm just going to update the PowerPoint and then um,
that's going to actually be running during cocktail in the bar area. Do you have technology to do that to run it? I'm sorry. Is there like a screen and equipment for you to do that? Yep. If we
can do the screen, S said there may be an extra TV at 6 Hall that we can with the Bluetooth player or Blu-ray player. So, we have that covered. We just have to test it out and make sure it works. If not, we can bring the projector and Spartan has a screen. Okay, perfect.
Thank you. Yeah, we'll try to figure that out on Thursday when we're setting up. Yeah. Didn't she say she had a projector though? Yeah. D. Yeah, I think she has one. Yeah, I think Dany has a projector cam. I think she said that. She said she did. She
said she did not. She only had the screen. Oh, wow. Okay. I thought she did, but maybe maybe not. Okay. Um, anything else? Okay. The honestly, this is our last
meeting before everything goes. So, I I had one thing. Go ahead. Um, so on the time capsule, um, I have my thing to put in. Yes, that's going to be hidden by Thursday. Thursday. But we were, there were supposed to be photos of all of the
departments. Did that ever happen? Or of all the city employees. We contacted several people. The quotes I got were anywhere from 3 to 11,000. I couldn't get anybody to facilitate 70 employees
in time. So, no. department. So, we don't have any any of pictures of any departments? We we have pictures, but we don't have we've had a a turnover since the the ones that we have and especially new council members. So, no, we don't
have updated pictures of everyone. No. Okay. How about even just the council members? Uh we could probably take a picture, but I mean the um uh with with uh technology way it is
now um obviously as those things I mean we could we could get a picture after the fact and put it on and it persists forever, right? So, um I think we we could probably put a list of the current employees, a list in there, whatever.
And if they wanted to pull a picture up, you could do that. I mean, getting everybody together. I mean, we get the committee together for a picture at the mayor's ball and then we can put that in there. That would be nice. That would be nice. S is everything ready for
Sunday for the time capsule to go back? Um well, the capsule's ready. the the plaque came in. I'm waiting for public work to um to epoxy the plaque onto a flat stone. I've already emailed them about preparing the hole. Um if you guys
want I mean the time capsule does say May 18th on it. If we need more time I mean I thought the whole idea was to get it in the ground on Sunday but yeah if we want to wait for pictures and additional stuff I mean we can hold off but that's up to the committee.
I think we should move forward. Okay. Okay. Um my one last thing I know we can go. Um can we meet next Tuesday to kind of wrap everything up? We have some loose ends also that still need to be discussed. Yeah, I planned on meeting
next Tuesday. Okay. Yeah, this this is our last meeting before the events obviously, but yeah, we we can meet next Tuesday. Okay. That's on the calendar already. It is already on the calendar. Okay. Yeah. So we'll we'll meet next Tuesday as well. Anything else?
Ajourn. Okay. Is there a second? I second. Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Thank you everybody. See Part: 2
come into the same city. Father God, we just come to you in the precious name of Jesus. Lord, we just lift up the city and all that they're doing that we would have wisdom from you. We'd come together, the teams just
to make this place better for each department and for the residents and for the businesses and all the stuff that's on the agenda tonight, like adopting a street. That's a good program that people could volunteer to help in. So, I thank you for that as well. and
temporary wave of fire inspection fees that that's good to help the city to show that we not just to try to take from them but also pour back into them. And then I want to thank you also for the maintaining point of the Newport
Richie service to uh work together with them in areas and the piggyback contracts and the things that's going to be on the old agenda. So I just I give you glory and honor and praise in Jesus name. Amen. Amen.
[Music] To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
[Music] Madam clerk have role please. Mayor John Eric Hoover here. Vice Mayor Chris Mayer here. Councilman David Mueller here. Councilman Robert Huard here.
Councilwoman Lisa Burke here. City Attorney Nancy Meyer here. City Manager Matthew Copper here. Thank you. Okay. First up, um we have proclamations tonight. They were not on the agenda. So I need a motion to add there's two two proclamations for tonight. Municipal
clerk's week, which is the week past, and then police week, which is our current week we're in. If I get a motion to add those to the agenda. So moved. Okay. Second. Have a motion. Second. Any further discussion? Any public comment? See put a vote. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. Motion carries. So
that if I could have Ashley come forward. [Music] [Music] Okay, first up, proclamation municipal clerk's week, uh, May 4th through the
10th, 2025. Whereas the office of municipal clerk, a timehonored and vital part of local government, exists throughout the world. And whereas the office of the municipal clerk is the oldest among public servants, and whereas the office of the municipal clerk provides a professional link between the citizens, the governing bodies, and agencies of government at
other levels. And whereas municipal clerks have pledged to be ever mindful of their neutrality and partiality, rendering equal service to all. Whereas the municipal clerk serves as the information center on the functions of local government and the community. Whereas municipal clerks continually strive to improve the administration of the affairs of the office of the
municipal clerk through participation in education programs, seminars, workshops, and the annual meetings of their state, provincial, county, and international professional organizations. Whereas it is most appropriate that we recognize the accomplishments of the office of the municipal clerk. Now therefore, I John
Hoover, mayor of the city of Port Richie, do recognize the week of May 4th through the 10th, 2025 as municipal clerk's week. And I further extend appreciation to our municipal clerk, Ashley Mcdana, and to all municipal clerks for the vital services they perform and their exemplary dedication to the communities they represent. Dated
this 13th day of May, 2025, John Eric Hoover, Mayor. Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. Congratulations. Okay, next up I have a proclamation for police week. If uh I can have all the officers and chief come up for you.
[Music] Thank you all for coming. Actually, if you want to come down here. [Music] Okay. So to recogn this proclamation is to recognize National Police Week 2025 and to honor the service and sacrifice
of those law enforcement officers killed in line of duty while protecting our communities and safeguarding our democracy. Whereas there are more than 800,000 law enforcement officers serving in communities across the United States, including the dedicated members of the Port Richie Police Department. Whereas since the first recorded death in 1786,
there are currently more than 24,000 law enforcement officers in the United States, have made this ultimate sacrifice and been killed in line of duty. Whereas the names of these dedicated public servants are engraved on the walls of the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial in Washington DC. Whereas the service and sacrifice of all officers killed in the
line of duty will be honored during the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund's 37th candlelight visual on the evening of May 13th, 2025. Whereas the candlelight visual is part of the National Police Week, which will be observed this year May 11th to 17th. Whereas May 15th is designated as peace
officers memorial day in honor of all fallen officers and their families and US flags should be flown at half staff. Now therefore, I John Coover, mayor of the city of Port Richie, do recognize the week of May 11th through the 17th, 2025 as National Police Week in the city of Port Richie and publicly salute the
service of law enforcement officers in our community and in communities across the nation. In witness whereof, I have here unto set my hand and cause the seal of the city of Port Richie to be fixed this 13th day of May, 2025, John Hoover, Mayor. Thank you all so very much for your service. Thank you.
[Music] The taser demonstration. Oh, he's the victim. Yeah. Yeah. Let's do that next meeting before you leave. Okay. I would gladly do that to you. You will be you'll be the victim. Right
before the tape. Yeah. For the for the public humor. Um our city manager thought we were having a taser demonstration tonight. I said we'll wait till next week before he leaves. Okay. Next up, we have three sets of council minutes for approval. Uh look
for a motion for the January 28th, 2025 city council meeting minutes. So move Second. Have a motion. Second. Any further discussion? Any public comment? See put a vote. All in favor signify by saying I. I. I. Opposed. Motion carries. Look for a motion for the April 10th,
2025 city council meeting minutes. Second. Have a motion. Second. Any for discussion? Public comment. See put to vote. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. Motion carries. And last up, I need a motion for April 22nd, 20 2025 swear in meeting minutes. Got a change
to make to that, please. Okay. Uh page 21 at the top continuation of page 20, election vice mayor. I was put on there as saying yay. I would like to change that to nay. That did not make it. I did not make it.
I'm sorry about that, Ashley. You didn't hear me. Okay. Yeah. So, you get that change. Okay. And then if I get a motion for the uh approval with that change. Second. No. I need a motion. Make a movement. Okay. I make a second. Okay. Motion second. Any further discussion?
Any public comment? Seeing none to put to the vote. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. Motion carries. Okay. Next up is comments from the general public. I do have a few signed up. First is Hunter Dawson. Welcome. Thank you, Mayor.
5621, please. First, I would like to thank God in Jesus name for the honor to speak in front of you, all of you. Um, I want to thank Matthew Cppler for doing a great job as the city manager for the city of Port Richie. Um, and I'd like to
introduce myself to the public. My name is Hunter Dawson. It's okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. Age 34. I have a wonderful wife, uh, Karen. two sons, Liam, three and a half, and Levi,
10 months old. My education background is a jurist doctorate from Liberty University School of Law, and that's in Lynchburg, Virginia. With that degree, it shows a high proficiency of analyzing, reasoning, speaking, reading, and writing at a high
level. My experience is a lot, but I'll break it down. In college, I was president of the student ambassador board for the University of Memphis in Memphis, Tennessee. where I'm originally from. That organization represent the FA represents the faculty and
administration and alumni of the University of Memphis. Prepares agenda and also all university matters businesses. In short, I own several ones. I have built from the ground up several multi-million dollar
companies that are fully staffed and self-sufficient. I have netted over 700 grand for the past few years myself. When you look um in this city, I've experienced three floods over the last two years. I've helped out in every one
of those floods. Um I know the agony people went through. I understand the streets. I've seen it in real life. I did not sit on the sidelines, rolled my sleeves up, got my hands dirty, and helped serve this city. During the recent campaign, I
knocked on over 400 doors and helped, I would like to say, candidates get elected. Glad to do it. Glad to serve. Love to work hard. When you look for a city manager in the future, and I'll speak again later when the topics on the agenda, just didn't want to run out of time because it's very important to me for
the city to hear about me and what I would like to do to serve in that position. When you look for a city manager, it's like a football team, NFL team. You want a franchise quarterback. You don't want a one-year guy. That's just the reality. I'm 34. I would like
to remind everyone of that. Uh most most of everyone on the council is I would go on a limb and say 50 plus or 50 or plus. I respect that. It means you have great knowledge and you've lived a long life and that's a blessing. And what a great honor it would be to take orders from
you, learn from you, and be the future when you transition the baton down the road because one day we all will die. But leaders need to rise and need to be trained by current leaders. I can learn anything. Law school proves that. When I got out of law school, I started
businesses and I learned that you learn trial and error and you learn from your peers as well. And I'm ready to start now. I do not have to give a twoe notice to anyone because I own my own companies. Thank you. Thanks, Hunter.
Next up, I have uh Danny Fields. Welcome. My name is Danny Fields. My address is 8114 Leo Kid Road. And I want to thank you guys again for your service. I I do want to thank you personally for the May
the 1st for the National Day of Prayer, Mayor being there. uh Frank, the the the police and and the sheriff department and a lot of other uh people from the city and not only from the city, Dave Mueller was there and you guys had
prayer requests and we we prayed into that and that's what that's what I'm here to do is pray and uh to just watch God work in our lives and through our lives. So, I do want to also uh for time's sake
uh want to lift up the things that you guys are doing here. Uh you know, we had that great event and uh with the car show that was a great turnout, a great event for the city. It was building public relationships. I had
people stationary myself uh that had a car in in that. I partnered with you with that. I enjoyed the the event. I we need to see more positive stuff like that what we're doing. So I thank you and then for the festivity parade coming
up. Uh I'm going to be a part of that with you. I'm promoting that as well and sharing and uh anything to do with uh the centennial celebration. I'm also behind that with you guys on that and seeing how we could continue to partner
and promote one another. And uh then on my time frame here for Hunter, I I heard what he said he wanted to run for city manager. Well, from what I know of him and everything that I've seen, he's he's he's a good man. He he's he's been
behind the city. He stands behind God. He stands behind the candidates and and Port Richie. He's willing to learn and grow and and uh he's educated. He's got the qualities. He's young. he's got the time. So, for me, I hope you consider
that. I will speak for others that uh that know him uh and that has talked to me and they're behind him as well to be a city manager. And so, he's got my vote, but I know that decision comes down to Yun's and the public. So, I hope
you take all that in consideration, his service, my service, and the service of the community uh that stand behind him. So, I just want to say God bless you. Thank you for all that you do and we just need to continue to grow and hear the hearts of the people. I stand here
transparent with you. I believe that he has and others and so together we can make this a great place to live and work and play and and work together. So, thank you in Jesus name. Thank Danny. That's all the signups I have um for
general comment. I show hands up. Anybody else like to speak? Okay. If not, bring it back. Uh, next up is comments from the city manager. I'll pass to Mr. Copper for his comments. No comments tonight. Really? Let me keep going. All right, let's steam on ahead.
So, next up is comments from boards committees. Um, I'll comment on the centennial committee. We we met today. Obviously, been meeting every week. We're coming up on our uh kind of the end of the line. Um, we'll make a couple reminders. the um the deadline to get
your each individual packet for the um time time capsule. Thank you. The time capsule is Thursday. Um obviously if you need a little more time, it's not going in the ground until Sunday. So try to get that uh that done. You want to write a letter, put something in there.
We have that by Sunday. Go out in the ground Sunday morning, actually. So um is there an event? Yeah. Yeah. So here at city hall and I don't know what the time is. So it should be here by Friday. Yeah. No late no later than Friday. I would say the cut off was originally the
15th which is uh Thursday. So but um try to get that done by by Friday at least. Um we pretty much solidified everything that uh we need to for the this coming weekend. The mayor's ball on Friday uh
Saturday and Sunday the parade and all the different things going on. So, um obviously encourage you all to attend as much as you can and show support. Um it's going to be it's going to be a long weekend, but uh it's a really good good thing for the city. Do you have to register to be in the
parade or do you just No, you show up in um down uh Kums Drive. We like Maybe we need to make an announcement to that effect. Yeah, it's been out on Facebook and this website and and whatnot. Um, and we've got uh I will say we have
40ome cars that were in the car show or at least if they weren't at the car show, they were interested in being in the parade. But cool. Um, so we're going to have several of the cars there in the parade. I think our fire trucks, police cars probably be uh in there as well. Um, golf carts are welcome. You bring
your golf cart. Um, the I would encourage all the council members to try to participate in parade if you can. Um, you guys could do something together. Um, I'll be in I think I'll be in my golf cart. I know Chopper Davis is coming. He's gonna be in his golf cart. I don't know if you're taking yours or whatever, but um if you guys could do
something together individual, just kind of be in the parade, that'd be great. Um I don't think there's anything else worth No, we got something on the agenda later on about that. Uh the other board committee thing I want to bring up is if you have a copy, uh Christine Sullivan
is showed interest in being on the citizens advisory committee as well as historic preservation committee. And so I'd like to see if we get that action. We'll do separately each committee. So is there a motion to add Christine to the citizens advisory committee? I make a motion to add Christine Sullivan to
citizens advisory committee. I'll second that. Okay. I've got a second. Uh any further discussion? Any public comment? Seeing none, I bring back back for a vote. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. Motion carried. Welcome Christine to the assistant advisory committee. You're going to be a great asset. Um she also is interested in
serving on the um historical preservation committee which I'll uh actually have another comment about that after we action this. So we're going to get a motion for Christine Sullivan to be added to the historical advisor historic committee whatever it is committee preservation committee. So
move. Okay. Have a motion second. Any further discussion? Any public comment? Seeing none, I put to a vote. All in favor signify by saying I. I opposed. Motion carries. Welcome to the historical preservation committee. Um with that, I think that puts us at two
for the historic preservation committee. Um we had a event um last Friday. Is it Friday? Yeah, Friday at the um Peace Hall over in Newport Richie where Tomas um with his history of Port Richie
and whatnot and there's several historians and whatnot there. Um we have had a very hard time staffing that committee and it's it we got it got up to I think three one time where they I think they met maybe once. um yeah, once
and so I was wanting to see what the council's thoughts were on opening that up to residents outside the committee. I think there was um some people that over in Newport Richie that would love to help out with uh our historic preservation committee. So, what's your guys' thoughts on opening that up to try
to get that up to staff as we really need to do um some more of that? And I'll bring another thing up uh as we have these these uh events with the flood that we've got substantially damaged properties. Um we probably need
to be looking at any properties that were historic in nature. I know we've got some that were mentioned over on uh Sunset Drive. I think one it was a historic potential. I know there's
different rules for that once they've um once they've been um registered as a historic site, but I think we probably need to be proactive in looking at these properties. So as things happen, we we can preserve some of the history that's there. Um we need a historic preservation committee to kind of be
active in in doing that as well as the archives and stuff like we pulled out a time capsule and I know we've got boxes of stuff. We really need a group to kind of take that and and run with it and we just we aren't getting the staffing from residents to do that. So is there any objections to I think that's fine. I
mean we get involved in stuff with Newport Richie. A lot of us do. So and we share the same history a lot. So they love to help out some of those folks over there. I think the committee is five members I think. So um and I think we maybe did a quorum adjustment on that
at three quorum. Um, but if we could uh is there any objections to opening it up to non-residents? No, don't. Somebody make a motion to do Well, just by consensus, we do. So, if if Nancy, if you could Oh, it might be a charter thing, too. I
think we have to not charter, but I think it's in your codes. Let me give you a minute. It seemed like we we did something along that, but I I think it is part of the chart, too. So, it might have to go to vote. That's what I was trying to figure out
with the resolution. [Music] We need to get that Jeopardy music for when we put Nancy on the spot. I apologize. I should have told you about this before. I don't always have it because sometimes I don't have my own track. Well, I have to confirm because I
I have to look at my emails. It's hard to look over my phone. I I'm almost certain that Lori McClean stepped down. She did. I think Cherokee is the only one left. Oh, Cher. Yes, Cherokee. Correct. So, Cherokee and now Christine. That's right. So, we we need one more to be able to have a corn to do anything.
But if we open up if we are able to open it up to outside members um we can uh do a comment come up if you want. You got some ideas on people. Christine Sullivan, 7808 Weber Lane. Um, if you'd
give me maybe just a little bit of time, I can possibly get that filled. Okay. Okay. Sure. We got five members. So, like I said, we've been trying to get it filled forever. So, definitely do that. We'd prefer residents. Sure. Um, but I if we could look at opening up just in case, obviously, we would preference
residents, right? I think I know some people who' probably help out with that. Perfect. Okay. Thank you. Go forth and recruit. Yeah, we have to do an ordinance. Right now, it's it's limited to who resides or owns business unless they own a
business. Who resides own or owns businesses or real property within the city. Okay. So, we have to modify that meet those requirements. Yeah. So, by sense if you could look at modifying that to open it up outside the city. Yep. And then um we'll uh um if we
happen to fill it up before that happens or whatever then we can reconsider. And do you want it to just be that opened or do you want other qualifications or requirements? How do we do the for the centennial? We did that committee and we also did it for
the 2125 coastal resilience committee. Those were adop committees that are created by resolution. Um, so this needs to be an ordinance right now. Right now your code requires it to be someone um either residing owning a business or owning real property in the city. So if you want to open it up to people that are not residing, owning businesses or
owning real property in the city, I just need to know how broad you want that ordinance to be anybody from anywhere or do you want it to have some? Yeah, I mean I I would probably want to word it so that some qualification like a 10 mile radius or something or Yeah, we
keep it somewhat local. Um, what do you think? 10 mile radius. 15. Yeah. What? We have to narrow down this in the county. Well, you know, we could
just say in the county. Yeah, within the Pasco County. And I would within the Pasco County. That's more that's a big area, but there might be some Yeah. No one's from Tampa or except for Hillsboro. They're not going to want Nobody's coming here from Hillsboro. That might be easier if we limit to the county. Nobody's coming
from Hillsboro. Nobody's coming from Levby County or Citrus or anywhere else. So, I don't think we need a limit. We've heard of people coming. That's right. They'd be lined up, right? Um, and I would also let me know if you think this is pertinent or not to uh basically say
in there that candidates from within the city limits of Port Richie have preference. So that being if we had two people say I want to be on it, one of them was a a city res, they would they would get it with preference toward city res. Got it. I'm on it. So but if we
have openings and they're not filled, we'll take anybody pass. Okay, great. Yeah. Any other boards, committees? Uh yes. Um Tampa Bay Regional Planning Council there's summit on Thursday and there's a contingent from this area
going um both city employees that three three city employees, one member of the coastal resiliency and three council members. Okay. So, we got about seven going and I think the first meeting uh it
kicks off at 8:00 a.m. down in Braon. So, it's a 6:30 drive leave time from here. So, we'll figure it out. Yeah, we'll figure out car pooling or whatever. Gotcha. All right. Okay. Anything else? Sports committees. Okay. Move right along to the consent agenda.
Look for a motion. Motion to approve the consent agenda for May 13, 2025. I've uh I got a motion, a second. Any further discussion? Any public comment? See, put the vote. Didn't have a second. I got a second. Yeah, Dave.
Oh, Dave got all in favor say by saying I. I oppose. Motion carries. Okay. Next up, council business. Sign number three, request to vacate a portion of Bridge Street. I'll pass that to Mr. CPAP for introduction. Bring this
up. Um, Port Richie Marine and Rentals LLC has submitted a request to the city to consider vacating a portion of Bridge Street extending from its intersection with Bayiew Street to the terminus at the former bridge abutman on the north
bank of the Cody River. subject segment no longer serves as an active roadway. Currently, it functions as part of a driveway and access area to the marina business and the restaurant catches, both owned by the same party. The original request was submitted in 2021
and scheduled for consideration at a council meeting November of that year. However, the item was withdrawn by the city manager from the agenda during the meeting with the intent that it would return for future discussion. representate that the requests are not brought back before the council until
now. When evaluating a request to vacate a public street, city council should consider several key factors. Whether the roadway is no longer necessary for public use or access. Whether the proposed vacation serves a valid public interest or benefit. Whether the action
is consistent with the city's comprehensive plan and future land use goals. whether the vacation would landlock adjacent parcels or restrict current or future access for surrounding properties and whether public or private utilities exist within the rideway and
if so whether permanent easements will be preserved to allow continued access and maintenance. The city currently has underground utilities located within the Bridge Street Rideway. Most notably, a six-inch water man runs beneath the Cody River at this location, serving as a
critical conduit for providing portable water to the south side of the city. In addition, there are water and sewer service lines that connect to both adjacent businesses. If the street is to be vacated, it'll be essential to retain appropriate utility easements to ensure
the city can continue its access maintain these vital infrastructure systems. At the terminus of the existing pavement on Bridge Street extending to the former bridge abutman city also maintains a public space. The space was formally established by ordinance in
1996 which designated a 30- foot wide section of bridge street approximately 135 ft in length for for pedestrian use. The ordinance further tasked the city manager in collaboration with the pride in Port Richie committee with developing
a plan to enhance and beautify the area. Since this public space falls within the area requested for a vacation, the city council will need to determine its future use, preservation, or possible relocation as part of any decision on the proposed rideway vacation. In
accordance with Florida law, the city must provide proper public notice and conduct a public hearing prior to approving the vacation of any public rideway. Adjacent property owners and members of the general public must be given an opportunity to comment or object. Approval must be granted through the adoption of an ordinance. If council
wishes to move forward with this request, staff recommends directing the city attorney to prepare the necessary ordinance for first reading and to schedule a public hearing in accordance with statutory requirements. Thank you. So with that, there's no action tonight on this, but uh basically direction to
move forward or not to to go through that process and we can have some discussion and we've got the applicant here as well answering questions if you want to ask those. There any discussion about this tonight? Yeah. Yeah. That's Yeah. Discuss it. Okay. So, we are we paying any taxes on
that? No. No tax. No state taxes. Nope. Uh there's no it's not really useful for anybody u except them because there's easements rightways. We can't build on it. Can't
even put a food truck on it. And with the utilities or the ground, the sewer and the water alone. um the city would have to maintain that with our upcoming water maintenance that we want to do. Uh so the expense of the
city of trying to upgrade the water in the sewer alone way outweighs I believe the value of the property to us. And by waving this to the owners u of that the neighbors of that property waving it to them only thing it could do is create
more positive tax flow by improving their business. there. I mean there's there's obviously once that's vacated becomes taxable land, right? I believe it's it weighs out to the benefits of the citizens way more pros than cons by doing this. Uh
and all it does is cost the city and the more money to hold on to property and restrict them from improving their property. Yeah. The owners. Yeah. I mean, I've I've known about this for a long time. I'm I'm on on board with this vacation. Um the as you go
down there now accessing their property, it's really everybody goes down there is to you can't park on the street, right? You either go there to go to catches or there now the marina. Um there is that that public space that was there prior to Port Richie. Um I don't think a whole lot of people
would know about it, but um the to access that you you can't you'd have to park in one of their parking spots or you have to basically walk down there, ride your bike, I guess. But again, you're going across their property. Um it makes sense for me to to vacate that
and get that out of out of our hair, if you will, because it's a it's a road that goes to nowhere. And so, you know, I'm on board with it to move forward. You guys, any thoughts? I I did some research and I think just
like Bob, I think it it is substantially beneficial to us and to the property owners there for an increased tax value and usage to help develop our city. So, I think it's a win-win for us all the way around to vacate it. Yeah. And and we'll add to that, it's not just the
actual road. Obviously, if that road becomes vacated, that allows them to improve that area even more, too. So there's I think there's projects that come down the pike that um really improve that area as a result of that. But they would still have to maintain the rideway since we have a pipe going down that center of that road I believe.
Right. Yeah. Did you want to talk on the right the pipe is actually to the direction would that be the marina side of the rideway? Okay. Um the right side of that road. Yes. Okay. Another way to
look at it. Okay. Um and most to the wrong side but anyhow uh so one of the concerns that that that I have with that is making sure that we have appropriate amount of easement for it. um that pipe
goes underneath the riverbed, right? And so there is a point where it gets deeper really quick and if we should have to do work on that, it would require probably a little bit more than an average 10 foot uh amount of easement. Um and
again, I don't know right here today if it should be 15 foot or 20 foot, but I know it probably has to be more than the 10 foot that we'd probably talk about. And I know I did address it with the lows that are representative and I don't think they were overly upset with that
that concept. Um the reality is it's in in the life of a waterline pipe is still very young. Um and we shouldn't have to worry about that. But again when I say that bad things happen. So um I don't
want to say it. And I I think ultimately the the plan should be to look to relocate that pipe and get it up on the bridge so we don't have it going under a river. I have been looking at that for a long time. Right. So So I don't think there will be any issues but again I I
think uh out of a prepundonderance of precaution we probably should have a little bit more than uh 10 feet there. Now with that rightway they could not build a building or structure over the top of that pipe. Right. Correct. Okay. So, you do have access at some point in
time. Um, I know at some point in time we were talking about access to an under the river passageway. Would there be property on the other side that would be the east side of their building to
access a there is underway. So, that could be traded separate separate topic could be traded different a different issue. Um but I think there is. So yeah, I I think we've we've had conversations regarding that and uh
they're they're you know I would say open to the discussion with what our needs are to do that. Um we we uh had I think uh another you know with with reduction from it uh housing or allowing
carts on there as well. You know went down from a 20 foot to 10 foot. um it was redrawn a little bit and and there's still an impact to their their uh parking lot, but it's not as uh severe as what it would have been if you had the 20 foot. So,
that goes around the east side of their building by the bridge, half of that is on DOT property anyway. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, there's there's some impact, but it's a lot less than what originally they were proposing. And I still think there's, you know, when we get into final design with that project, there's
still ways I think to reduce that impact more. And just just while we're on that topic, just just information. So the the that project underneath the bridge is no project. Um that used to be very high, maybe third on the list, I think, and it
was uh it dropped down like 33 on the list. It's now um back up to I think 10 on the list. And it's um it's right now it's in the rightway uh study. So the the uh the county is DOT is looking at
what rightway needs to be acquired on both sides to make that project happen. So that's that's very much moving forward. Okay. Um but again separate separate topic. It's it's not a quid proquo. You give us this we take that's not what this is about. That's totally separate thing. Um this is certainly about the uh vacation of the runway. I
will there's probably some questions that will come up about the public space. Do you want to add any color to I think um Iologize I don't listen to everything Matt said but I know he he addressed it. Um that would have to be addressed would have the the would have to be a determination of you want to
um repeal that ordinance um or didn't have that discussion. Right. I I think there were some questions about or maintain it some other way or have let there still be access with an agreement something like Yeah, I think there was some questions on whether you could technically even really create a public
space from a road. Is that Well, I I think and again this is me playing a lawyer. Um I I think you know that was very carefully crafted to keep it a roadway. I mean, you know, they stayed away from it be creating a park, um
which isn't what you do on a road. um and clearly said in that that ordinance that um you know they were going to restrict vehicular traffic and allow only pedestrian traffic. So I think it it it very narrowly created a public
space but what it really did was just restrict vehicles on that area and then the city did other things in terms of the walkway and the plantings with it. I feel like the city's not really giving anything up. They're not really giving anything up. Nobody really uses it. They
can turn it into something probably that will be much better wise because like like you said, a lot of people don't even know it's there. It's a path. It's a path. Nobody goes on that path. We'll paint parks and restoration maintain it. I know. So, no,
I I think we should vacate. And so, procedural we would probably have to repeal the ordinance first and then move forward with the vacation of We could do it together most likely because the vac they're both ordinances. We could not not the same ordinance but they could they could go with each other.
Okay. Any other discussion? So any objections to moving forward with that? Okay. Um any public comment? Okay. See none. We'll move on. Uh, next up is item number four, approval of resolution number 25-27,
establishing an adopt a street program to promote community involvement in the maintenance and beautifification of public roadways, providing for program guidelines, authorizing the city manager or designate to administer the program, and providing for an effective date. Um, do you need to read pass for
introduction? Thank you. So, at the last council meeting, there was conversation about doing an adopt street program for the city. it was brought up that the city actually had one. Um, as we started looking at it though, we found that there really wasn't any formal council
resolution that created the program. And generally, when you're doing these type of things, you you do want to have council authorization that creates the program because there's going to be an expenditure of public funds. And in this case, you know, as you read what um
we're going to do and what was on the uh the in the program to begin with, you know, we were providing different uh uh items to the groups to do that. So, we felt that we good to come back um kind of start over, have have this uh
resolution that uh creates it and then move forward. It's a great idea. I'd like to move to uh approve that resolution establish adopt a roadback program. Okay. Is there a second? A motion to second. Any further discussion? Yes. Uh I would like
to expand this to include parks as well. And the reason I I I mention that is because I have a group of fishermen that are interested in uh adopting Brasher Park. And if we adopt Coons Road all the
way into Brasher Park, uh could they grab the road and the park in one road park pro effort? Well, so Brancher Park is really pretty much just a road and there you go circle. Is that
No, Branch Park is that but I'm I'm saying are you looking larger scope parks? Yes. I'd like to get the whole coons road because people throw stuff out the windows and it's an opportunity for them to grab that whole section there. In fact, I was going to present to them an opport this
opportunity next Monday night at their um monthly meeting. Um but that's the road is the road after you turn off a old post that goes all the dead ends into the park. What I mean the park portion is what I'm asking about. You do
you want to adopt all the parks? So you have Brasher older. You could well you could have somebody adopt any of those parks. So it's a great idea, you know, but what what I like to do is piggyback off of this effort. Adopt a road and change it to adopt a road, adopt a park,
you know, so it's a bigger scope. If somebody wants to adopt waterfront park, they can do that. If they want to adopt Coons Road and Brasher allin one, uh they could do that. um and it would benefit the city. We provide you know
their name on signs and provide the information uh that how they need to do it four times a year. Uh we provide vests, gloves and and uh you know trash bags and stuff and when they're done they return the the gear and everybody's
good. Everybody wins. Is is the current resolution as it's written other than just adding park is there more needs to go into that? I believe I don't know if the resolution itself needs more but the
application that's attached I think you just I think you can just add to add a couple words. I mean I think it's just as simple as saying adopt the street adopt a park program.
kind of think it's and we could even put a map of the city saying, "Hey, these are available. Sign up." You know, and how do we how do we I guess it's probably simple response, but how do we make sure they're actually
doing the job they, you know, because sometimes these things happen, people don't do anything and all of a sudden there's trash. This they have to coordinate with us four times a year and that's what they're the agreement that they sign. Okay? So, if they're not coming in four times a year, we'll know somebody's keeping records, right?
Where's our record keeper? Dang, they throw everything on you. Somebody will be assigned to keep track of records, right? So, I think it'll give us pride and ownership in our city. It'll give people pride in our parks and streets and
things. We could even have our own residents adopt a street. I had a lot of residents going out knocking door to door that were talking about the trash, you know, and it just it kind after the storm, we all had this really negative feel and that trash just added to it
when it stayed around for so long. So I I think it's a great idea. Yeah. No, good program. I'm surprised it would follow through with. So is there a motion, too? I was going to say, so if you if you're interested interested in the park aspect, you could
go forward with this one today and I can bring back an additional one addressing parks or if you want to have it together. This needs to wait because I need to change the title. I need to change parts of it because this is specifically to adopt a street that's not mentioned parks. But the application could serve in both capacity. It needs
to be tweaked. Yeah, to be tweaked also. So we can't approve it with the with the additional parks. I would not because I need I need time to look at it and make sure there's we add on the right stuff and there may be more conversation to have if I come across something I don't expect right now to come across. I just think we roll with approval of the one
we have and then we'll add parts later. Yeah. The only the only thing on that is um you have extra code it's somewhat duplicative, right? So if we could combine them together it might be less if one program is opposed to two separate programs. If you make a change
of one, if you want to What's your thoughts on that? I mean, I I don't care. We can do it that way. I just want to get some feet under and get it running. Yeah. Well, it only it only be delayed one meeting, right? So, next, you know, two weeks from now. So, what
are we saying? Combine them. I mean, or I separate I look for opportunities to simplify things. If it's if it's two programs, the only real different is park or road. We don't need to create two separate programs. one for park, one for road, unless there's a need to have
specifics for each. But right now, is there anybody coming knocking on the door saying they want adopt a road today? Yeah. So, waiting a week or two weeks is probably not going to be a problem, right? And and um something else that was partnered with the adopt a
road program was adopt a tree program. And so I think if you're going to do the parks, you might as well throw adopt there and we can kind of roll it all into one. What's all that look like? What's an adopted tree look like? I mean, are we taking care of its
nutrients? Are we having somebody come out and tell us the condition of the tree? What's What's an adopt? Yeah. People would give you money to clean. Yeah. to add trees, which is something we we need to do, add trees to
the city. But how's that? Is that is that an opportunity to if one needs to be taken down as well, or is it just strictly for new trees? Yeah, you would you would adopt out a tree that needs to be taken down. Well, I was thinking they had some issues with
dead trees or whatever. That wasn't the city's responsibility and there was residents did that, but if there was organization that Yeah. I mean, this this again is for parks and and other city property that needs trees. Okay. So, it's basically adopt tree is to Yeah. To plant a new tree. I think to me
that sounds like a whole another program. You know, if we're going to clean up trash, we're cleaning up trash. Adopt a tree. That's a whole different keep attaching all these little things forever. I think I think we've nailed it right now with adopt a adopt a street and and adopt a park.
[Music] So is there I'm fine coming back with it the next time all together. Yeah. So by consensus is that is there any objections to Well, there's a motion and a second. Do you have to withdraw to do that? I made a motion. Did we make a motion? You made a motion. Yeah. Bob I
seconded. Let me go back. So who made a motion? Bob did motion. Is there a second? I seconded it. And that and that's to to that was to do the adopt the street with the park. Ny's done talked about the park to amend the the motion to include the park. So you
wanted to keep them separate or you want I think put them Bob the that would be fine. Make a motion to approve roads and parks would be fine. And Nancy that's okay with you and I'm good with second. Okay. So I've made a motion to that and a second. Is there any further discussion? Any public comment? See man
put the vote on favor 65 saying I opposed. Motion carries. Um did you want anything on adopt during this too or draft one? Wait wait wait till somebody
I think that's another day. Okay. Yeah. It's not on here. Very well. It's like when do we stop? Who knows? Focus. Okay. Next up, I'm just trying to be facilitative. Uh item number five, approval of
resolution number 25-28 providing for a temporary waiver of fire inspection fees imposed by resolution number 23-15 for special events connected to the city of Port Richie Centennial Celebration and providing for an effective date. I'll pass that to Mr. Cop for introduction. City Centennial Committee established by
resolutions 2407 and 2426 has organized a series of public events to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the city of Fort Richie. Some of these events will include food non-food vendors which are subject to $150 fire inspection fee per event under resolution
2315. Additionally, it should be noted that these participants are subject to a $100 application fee. However, there is no authorizing council resolution for this fee. So, its waiver is not subject to council approval. Uh the two events that this impacts the 10 centennial
celebration festival approximately uh 25 tent vendors and 15 food trucks at least at point this was written and the centennial celebration fireworks approximately 15 food trucks will take place on May 17th and 18th respectfully.
To encourage vendor participation, enhance public engagement in these milestone events, the Centennial Committee has formally requested a waiver of fire inspection fees. Resolution number 2528 would authorize a temporary waiver of these fees exclusively exclusively, excuse me, for
events scheduled, organized, and promoted by the centennial committee in connection with the city centennial celebration. Okay. And I'll add a little color to that as we discussed some things around that today at the centennial committee. Um, originally we
had fees for the tent vendors um because we we we rolled events together. Um, we had a separate thing uh uh tent type uh event where you had people could sell garage sale type stuff in their tent. I think for residences be like $10 and
then vendors was like 40 or 50. Um that got rolled into the Saturday. Um and so now we we had um uh that we decided that there was going to be no fees at all for the tent type vendors, but that the food
trucks would still pay the $100 fee. Um today uh uh we we voted to wave the fees across the board. So there's there's not any fees being collected at all for a participation in that event. Um as of right now, anybody that needs a fire
inspection would have to pay $150 and that's what this is to wave that as well. So I just want to make for transparency. There's no fees coming in at all on the participation side uh for any vendors. And this would be removing the fire inspection fee. They would still have a fire inspection, but we
wouldn't charge a fee for it. Impact the city would probably be a few hundred dollars, I guess, and cost because they have to pay. I think, you know, the intent still to have uh the fire department do the inspections. Um I'm guessing it's probably few hours at most
to do that. So, one one employee or two employees hour do that is is a couple hundred bucks at most. But I noticed that you had dollar figures attached here uh for these kinds of fees, but these are probably
unbudgeted fees. We didn't have those in the budget. These are just gravy on top, so it really isn't an impact. Yeah. Per se. Yeah. I wanted I wanted you to be aware of of the potential number, right? Um during the the committee meeting earlier, I I made kind of the same
comment that that you know this this was never budget considered as part of the fiscal year 25 budget. In fact, um what was considered was the fundraising for it. We had budgeted 40,000 and I think we're up over 48,000 right now. So they
did a great job in in getting people out to uh donate. And so this was never considered. it was never a number that needed to be a part of, you know, the overall program cost. We're doing the Centennial. So, um, I think, you know,
the way that this was kind of going to be rolled out, it created a dual system that some people were going to get charged, but others doing somewhat similar things, but because they're doing it from a tent, wouldn't get charged. And uh as I said earlier uh in
in the meeting before this that that you know this this is an event that you want to have good feelings all around. You want people to walk away thinking good things about the city and wanting to come back and do the next one because I I truly think that you're going to be looking to do more of these type events
as time goes on and you want as many uh food vendors and 10 vendors you can get for those events. Well, let me ask a quick question. Are food trucks required to have a fire inspection and and health license and all that stuff with the county anyway?
Um, I don't know necessarily about the fire inspection piece, but I know they have to get food license and their truck has to be inspected from from a a health perspective. Um, I think we we require
that they they undergo that fire inspection. Can can they do that one time? That's good for something like that or is it for event? Well, that's they're all different trucks. They're all different layouts. All different types of different all the events are different. Different events require
different things tanks. Yeah. And I think the danger in in in granting a one-time fee and then is that they may add something different to the truck that you know if if the event was in in January and then they have an event in
July and they added a new boiler that has more propane tanks. I just I I think it probably is better to to go the way that that you know we've we've kind of scheduled this out is every time you have that event we we do an inspection.
So the whole the whole point is to wave the fees to encourage more participants but still do the inspections so it's still safe. It's still safe. So all we're doing is waving fees. Yeah, I would like us to use this as kind of a
catalyst to look at what we're doing in the city here and you know some of the conversations I've had with uh with with residents out there is they like these kind of like the car show you guys just had man that was like it was well attended. People were there. They had a
good time. Those are the kind of things we need to be known for. We don't want everybody rolling over to our neighbors over here. We want to start developing these environments here. We have this huge park. if we make it easy for the people to come here versus hitting them, you know, for the 150, whatever. And and
I would think Gary, you would probably agree, having those people come in here and giving them a little break on the fees is is really just giving us a starter to get them coming. The fees that we instituted are countywide. Everybody's the same. Newport Richie is the same. Pasco County is the same. So,
we piggy back off of the program that was already in place. We just pushed it. Yeah. The only difference is is they've got right now. We're trying to get it going on. You know, we're trying to get started here. And I just think it's a great opportunity for us to do that. So, I'm not against beating you guys. Trust
me. I want to make sure we we do that as much as possible, but I also want to get this little city started and get it on the roll. And some of these events we're talking about here can make that happen. So, I want us to have a a flavor for doing that, you know, as a group, you know, to make sure that we're being friendly to these outside people to get them to come in and participate. I had a
lady today talk to me about having a craft fair. I mean, these are things that are important. Other cities have these craft fairs on the weekend where they come in. All these vendors come in, they share their crafts, they, you know, have art and all kinds of stuff. You know, these are different things we can do here that make a difference. So, you
craft fairs for us aren't a big deal. There's no explosive danger, no big hazards for those. It's propane tanks, the generators that they're using, and mom and pop scenarios where they just put a rig together to go sell hot dogs or barbecue. And that's that's our issue. That's when it became across the
board countywide for us, Bane City, Eper. Totally agree with you. I've seen some of these food trucks and the propane lines are running across the grill and you're like, "What in the world's that?" You know, I get it. Yeah. So, I this is just a temporary thing though, right, for us here. Temporary. I was just thinking overall,
you know, bigger picture. And again, inspections will still happen. They will be free. Yeah. Is there a motion for approval? Motion. Go ahead. I'm good. Dave Mueller motion to approve
uh waving the fire inspection fees. Okay, is there a second? Second. Okay, got a second. Any further discussion? Any public comment? Any fire comment? Back for a vote. All in favor signify by saying I. I. I. Opposed? Motion carries.
Uh, next up, item number six, approval of resolution number 25-29 authorizing Point Distillery's use of the city of Port Richie Centennial logo on a Centennial product, providing for severability and providing for an effective date. I'll pass it to Mr. Kler for introduction. At a recent, actually last week, uh, Centennial Committee
meeting, Chairman Hoover presented an option to this committee to use celebration logo to promote a limited 100 bottle run of spiced rum from Port Point, excuse me, Point Distillery. The committee voted in favor move forward
and at the advice of the city manager and city attorney to draft a resolution for presentation to the council for approval and subsequent action. Bottles be purchased at cost and distributed during the centennial mayor's ball by the Spartan Manor because they are the ones with the liquor license. I get into
that whole distribution model that has to happen, but I'd rather not. But I'll turn it over to Yeah, I got a little color for that. So, um, we thought that, um, it'd be kind of cool to have a limited edition, and I've got the label up here to show you. This is what's
there's two sides. I I'll flip through it. But, um, basically to commemorate the centennial, um, a limited 100 bottle release, basically a bottle for every year of of uh, our our life here in the city. And, uh, we we talked about different things. We thought aged spice
rum would be uh, cool. Obviously, rum being a Florida Florida staple. Um, so and we wanted to have a little color to it. So, uh, we're going to do a spice rum. Uh, Point Distillery is doing this for us at their cost basically. Um, I don't have the exact bottle amount, but
it's going to be I think four something a bottle uh is what processing and and all that runs. Um, there so they're pretty much just doing probably a little bit of a loss because they want to they want to do something cool for the Centennial. And so part of that process
um when they when they create something and this they do stuff for the Rolling Stones and and other entities um to to do these they you have to submit the label to the government for approval and apply the state and there's different things. Once they put it together and
produce it then it has to go to a dist distributor uh and then that distributor then takes it on to a an endpoint to sell. Um, Spartan Manor has agreed to do that. They have the appropriate license to be able to take that and facilitate the sale of this. So, it's not something the city could sell. Um, it's either
that or like a liquor store. Um, but so Spartan Manor would basically pay that upfront. Um, and then they're selling it by the they would sell it by and the committee meet to figure out what the pricing would be on that. Uh, and then they would basically
take the proceeds and donate that back to the city would be kind of the flow. We don't know what the price for this. Um, yeah, the obviously there's there probably going to be significant demand for it. Um, Rich and I kind of thought
maybe 2530 bucks a bottle or something like that. Um, no more than 50 I wouldn't think. Um, it really it's it really kind of all depends on how much demand we'd have. I I would think in that price point, $25 $30 a bottle, they
would sell out really quickly. I'll probably buy 10 myself just to and that's and that's at the going to be sold at the mayor. So the the intent would be to the the intent was to have them there at the mayor's ball, but that's not going to be possible because of the the government time to get labels
approved and whatnot. Um, and so they would, um, we'd had some like a sample bottle. I'm trying to work on getting that to kind of advertise it. We could take pre-orders, if you will. Um, and then once once it was available, then Spartan Manor could distribute those. We could actually take the orders at the
city side. I think it's the conversation me and Nancy had. We could take the orders for that. The money wouldn't change hands here at the city. We would say, "Okay, Chris Mayor wants a bottle." Spartan Mayor would then fulfill that. They would take the payment. they would deliver the product and at the end of the sales smart manner can then donate
back to the city uh a portion of those proceeds that fair to I would prefer the city not to be involved at all manager of all of it and let them keep the that's my preference. So has Brian and Greg Lake been informed of this as what that oh their house is in the
centerpiece of the logo. So, so they approve the use of the logo for whatever we decide to want to do with even for profit, but it's not really for profit. No, I know. But that's they should to be explained that as all. I don't want to be surprised they see it on a bottle of
liquor their house and a logo. Yeah, we we can definitely run it by them just so they don't get surprised. But yeah, I will say that um in the agreement, we can use it for whatever we want. We obviously didn't anticipate um this particular activity bill.
and we we save for profit too as we as we're having these events we selling tickets to different things or whatever. So there is it's not really a problem unless they get surprised. Yeah. No, I'll let them know. I know. Yeah. Sure. That's all. Yep. Yeah. And I they
probably I would imagine they would think that'd be cool. Yeah. Very possible. But I tried that with them with the Cody River Brewing Company. Yeah. And they did adamantly No. So I'm just saying let's let them know was this this is a different situation
and I don't see it be a problem as long as they're notified. Yeah. Did did our purchase of that picture and did they provide the picture? They gave us that picture that we used in the lo. That's
correct. But anybody can take a picture of that house and there's not an issue. Right. Okay. I mean it's more of a courtesy. Yeah. I get it. I just call him tonight. Yeah, I don't think it's a big deal, but just I don't like the surprise. Yeah, good point.
Um there just so you know the um obviously if if we were to sell all these or whatever you again I'm not saying one way or another but um it is kind of a neat thing that uh if if if we
decided that we wanted to continue to have that exist out there. Obviously we're not selling it. We're not doing anything but liquor stores can buy it. They can serve it in the bars in in the city or whatever. It might be a a neat thing to to have on the shelf. Um, we
could look at maybe going uh further with it to extend it. But the intent for this is just have 100 bottles just it's kind of a souvenir type piece. I think it's a cool idea. Yeah. Looks nice. So, and here's the So, this is the front of the label. This is the back side. So, I'll read it out. Says, "Cheers to 100 years.
A toast to the city of Port Richie, Florida. Founded in 1925 along the beautiful Pifilosce River, the city of Port Richie has long stood as a proud symbol of Florida's coastal heritage. From its early days as a fishing village to becoming a vibrant community, the city embodies resilience, charm, and centennial of cultural richness. This
bottle celebrates a legacy, a limited release of handcrafted a spice rum to honor a centure of memories. Crafted in partnership with the city of Port Richie to celebrate its centennial 1925 to 2025. And then of course the government warning on there. So, so it says Asian
spice rum. We can really age it if we put it into the time cap. Yeah, that would be great. We won't have that one available by then, but yeah, I was I was thought about Well, we could add it. Yeah. Bob and weave, you
know. Yeah. Um Eric. Yeah. Question. It's not a question. I got a statement. Um you know, I mean, you guys know I don't drink, okay? So, I'm not going to be I'm not go, "Yeah, let's go get two of those and put them up there." But here's something else. You know, we're talking
about revival the city. We're talking about bringing the city back from the brink of the flood and all this other stuff. I've met tons of people here that are they're they're they're addicted to alcohol. They're dying. They're killing themselves. And here we are. We're like, "Hey, get another one to put on your shelf." That's all. I just I don't think
it kind of I don't think it's our place to do that. That's just my opinion. I think if if if catches wanted to do it or one of these that's what they do but I as a city council I don't think we should and whoever came up with the idea God bless you I'm good with that but I just I I don't think it's something we should jump on and say yeah we want to
make sure this happens and let's sell 100 bottles of put it in everybody's home kind of thing. Yeah. And again, the idea is not to provide alcohol to folks. It's obviously also let's give them a bug. You know what I'm saying? With the same thing on it versus the alcohol, you
know, open. It's going to sit on a shelf. True. Some people won't drink any of it. I'll give you an example, and I'm not going to mention any names, but I was in I was in a resident's house the other day and and the house is in a financial disarray. Okay? In other
words, the bad place, okay? Like maybe going to foreclosure, you know, and right then, beep beep, the FedEx guy pulls up. He's delivering a bottle of commemorative liquor to the house. Probably was a $100 bottle of liquor. I'm thinking to myself, "This doesn't
even make sense. You know, this house is getting ready to go into foreclosure and this person's ordering liquor through the mail." How do you know they bought it? You're being judgmental. How do you know they bought it? I don't I don't I don't bring up much like this. I'm just It's not judgmental.
It's just me understanding. I've got vision to see things. I'm just saying you don't know. I mean, it was 10:00 a.m. and he was hammering down early in the morning. So, you know, so you know, the my opinion and you know, alcohol is
legal. It uh used appropriately is perfectly fine. Um there are people that abuse that people abuse I mean we have for example there's there's opioids that are prescribed for pain. Um people get addicted to them and they they abuse
them. Do we out do we outlaw opio opioids or opioids? That's a tough word to say. Do we outlaw that? And and because of of those folks that do that again this is again it's a city thing. You know we're not in the business the alcohol
business. This is it's just something I thought was a unique type souvenir. Um I can tell you, you know, I have a drink now. Again, I I don't abuse it. Um I would buy one of these and never open
it. You buy 10? Well, and the reason I buy 10 would be to give them to people. Um I think it'd be great if I went up to Tallahassee was to give this to, you know, some of the legislators up there. I think there's I mean it's a it's that kind of thing. It's really a momento, very unique, very
cool type thing. So that's kind of why I was on board with it. Again, I don't I don't I don't want to see anybody fall into the the the alcohol problem. I have family members that have been there. Um and it's unfortunate and it's uh you know, don't condone it at all. But
again, for the for the the ability to to do something special for to commemorate our centennial, that's kind of where I was going with. So, and I see I see your point and and I know people do abuse quite a few people close to me and it's
uh it's a bad situation, but this isn't really like forcing anybody to do anything. Uh even though I do agree with what you're saying. Uh, that being said, Pasco County has their own beer made by Big Storm Brewery, Florida Sports Coast
beer. Um, and it's not uncommon to see that. This is limited. It's a onetime thing, I believe. And, uh, we should also maybe we could do something like, you know, recommend drink responsibly and maybe have someone speak even from
AA there about drinking if you want to do that. Yeah. And that that the government warning is on there. According to certain general, women should not drink alcoh because of the risk burst effect. Please don't misunderstand what I'm saying. Either way, thank you Bob for mentioning that. But I'm just going to tell you straight up. My mother and father both died from alcoholism. Okay. Killed a lot of
people. The other day I was in my campaign and I was riding down the road and I saw this Jeep riding down old post. The guy went from the ditch to the center of the road and back again here and like this. I'm thinking, what if my daughter was driving home on this road? That's all I'm saying. I just don't want to be part of I'm not poo pooing on you.
I love you and I want you. If you want to have a drink, that's up to you. You know what I'm saying? You know, I don't. But I'm just I just don't know that we're going to hang our hat on that. That's one thing we know for a fact, your mom and dad didn't buy from this rung and that person driving down that road wasn't. I get it. I get it. No, we
know. And I I don't I don't see this as promoting drinking. This is that's not what we're doing here. Now, now if we if we went on and we kind of kept that out there, then maybe I make that argument. But for this limited release, it's not like we're just we're providing something as a token uh of memory type
thing that they could put on their shelf in their bar or whatever. Again, we're not promoting drinking. It's just providing this unique one-time thing for the event. So, we can kill the project, too. That's it was an idea that uh uh that I had that I thought was unique and
it would be something that people could have and look back on and you know be something you see. So y if you if you're not interested we can kill it and I'll let them know tomorrow. But the uh the committee did move forward with
it. That's where we're at. I'd like that to move to approve the uh the use of the Centennial logo by Point Distillery for Centennial product. Okay. Is there a second? Second. Okay. Motion a second. Any further
discussion? Any public comment? Welcome. State your name and address for the record. Uh Marissa Russell, 8144 Washington Street. Um I just, you know, I I wanted to speak on behalf of, you know, my
peers. Um, I'm 20 years old, so I don't drink. So, I was wondering if there is some kind of other option that is open to those who are non-drinkers, those who don't want to even quote promote it either because I'm not one that doesn't promote drinking either. But like
something like a city flag or you know smaller flags for the kids or those for that are in the younger age that you know uh don't want to necessarily think on that level but want to think on something else of of hope for our city and of of love and
cleans cleanliness and everything you know and you know not necessarily uh because I know a lot of people my age and a lot of kids younger than me that you know their families come from that alcoholic situation and they don't they it's a bad memory for them. It's something that brings depression. And
you know, I think it would be a great idea if we did have something that's open to those who don't want anything to do with that, you know, or, you know, just another option for those who don't drink, those who aren't into alcohol, you know, just something to maybe
consider for since it is a really great celebration as our city. Yeah. Thank you. T-shirt. Yeah, we do got t-shirts and coins and there are some other things. Yeah. Well, I'm saying on a more um like you're saying how this bottle is something that's very significant. A t-shirt can be thrown and forgotten
about. A coin can be thrown and forgotten about. Mug or coffee mug. I was thinking a coffee. Yeah, I understand that. But, you know, something to just promote for the younger generation or those who aren't necessarily promoting, you know, an alcoholic or, you know, a rum coffee
box. You know, I'm just, you know, I was just saying I'm not playing favorites either. I'm just saying, you know, on behalf of my generation, it's something that, you know, I think that should definitely always be considered when we're thinking of these celebrations as well. But thank you. Thank you. Thank
you. Anyone else? She's ready to roll. I need the name and all that. Yeah. Okay. Christine 78. Oh, Christine Sullivan 7808 Weber Lane. Um, could you do a spark? Could the this place maybe just come up with a sparkling beverage that could go in a
similar bottle with a similar label and just that would appease everybody? Alcohol. I I don't I could ask if they I mean they could even like buy it and you know what I mean? Like just something like
anything that they could just put in the bottle. A similar bottle. Just change the label up a little bit that it's a non-alcoholic and then everybody gets something that they I can ask a question. What's what they have available saying, you know, just sure grape juice, whatever.
Thank you. Anyone else? Pastor, my name is Jessica A144 Washington Street. Um, basically, uh, in in regards to all of that, um, when it comes to like our generation, I'm 26, so when it comes to our generation around my age group, um, a lot of us are more keen to
kind of more more family oriented, we're more interested in that. If you kind of want to hear when it comes to that. So, when it comes to the poll of like alcohol and stuff like that, it's not something that majority of us, as far as the trend goes, is what we're seeking.
In fact, we're trying to draw back from that. So, when you encourage something like that, it's it's more of a negative spin when it comes to that. So, when it comes to our generation, I'm just speaking on my behalf from people that I know, family, friends. Um, I would say
something like that. It's coming up with something that really is more family oriented because that's something that we're more interested in, if that, if that makes sense. not something that would, you know, uh, negate or take that away, if that makes sense. Thank you.
Thank you. Anyone else as well, right? Uh, Florida. I'm actually not a resident of Port Richie. That's fine. I'm neighboring city. So, uh, 4638 Durnney Street, Newport Richie. What was your name? Joshua Russell. Thank you. And so
I'm a local business owner and I'm kind of on the same bandwagon right there. So in our neighboring community, uh, everybody I meet on the street, my neighbors, um, they're all that trend is actually happening. Um, they're more
formal, uh, family oriented and definitely if you want to encourage more local business owners, especially I'm a lawn uh, in landscaping business. So, we try to like uh as far as what you mentioned with the trash and all that. Oh, yeah. You know, like I do a lot of
vacant lots, parking lots, and um a lot of the retail and everybody I run into are kind of done with that. They're they're looking for more family oriented projects and uh definitely if you want to commemorate something very
historical like 100year uh definitely I think family oriented um project such as maybe a t-shirt or coin or something but definitely that's the moving trend in my age group. uh between I would say
between uh I'm 26 between 26 36 a lot of a lot of residents in the area uh within that age group they're looking for more family oriented u commemorations. Yes. Got it. Thank you. Anyone else?
8114 Leo Kid Danny Fields. Uh I I'm in agreement. I I know what we're trying to do, but there's a positive side to that and a negative, and you've already heard that through them. So, the the the positive side is, you know, we could get
our logo out there, but what is our logo going to stand for when I go away from Waterfront Park or or any event? Do I do I remember the alcohol or do I remember the car show or or the parade or
something that is going to reach all generations that's going to set a positive tone? Uh you know that the event was more about not so much the logo but about the city and what the city stands for. So see you got a
negative side to it and a positive side. So the positive we could have hats, we have banners, we could have car magnets. There's so many ways that we could attach that to family, to events, to uh businesses and and and then they'll
think of that, not just that that bottle with that logo on it. I mean, it it's it's a good concept, but as I sat here, I used to drink. Uh you know, I I know the consequences from drinking. Uh it
could change people's personalities, moods. It could get out there, cause more wrecks. So I don't want to be myself have a city or or socialize with that myself, but I will be behind all the other kind of good stuff. So I hope
when you make the decision on this and vote that you would take that in consideration. Do we want to be known as the the rum city or the city that is there for the people to promote good
things? We don't have alcohol in our parks. We do not have alcohol at our fireworks shows because it just brings a lot of drinking and driving
and incidents. Uh police has to deal with the fire. So to me attaching that to that puts that negative side to it. So I'll leave it there at that. Uh that's one of the reasons we come up here to just to present our hearts and
and a new generation that's going to raise up. See you see I see it as Port Richie not only being old bunch of old folks living here. We got a new generation that's going to be raised up that's going to be influenced and we got
to listen to their heart. I mean I mean I I'm proud that my family, some of them drink, some of them don't, and they do it, you know, responsible, but what do I want to put my name to? That's where I'm at. So,
thank you. Anyone else? I'll be quick. They covered it all. I Hunter Austin 5621 egrets place. I totally agree with everything you all said. I respect it, support it. Thank you, Chris, for saying that. Respect that. and support that. Also respect the
mayor as you as well. Um it's just opinions from the public. That's all. There's no disrespect to anyone. Take it. We all want peace um and community here. Uh my opinion would be the same as um them. It would be with the community
of familyoriented like a legal that would be family. It would be good for a baby all the way up to however old you are. and Laura's blessed you. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone
else? Okay, seeing none, I bring it back for any further discussion and or discussion. I before we put the vote, I'm going to just clarify um a little bit here. So again, nobody has to buy this, okay?
Just like nobody has to buy a t-shirt, nobody has to go the mayor's ball, nobody has to go any of these places, nobody has to participate in this. So by us providing and and I even say it's we're not really providing it's a uh it's
a point distillery is providing it. They just want to make it a part of our celebration to that's a product. Um could be frisbees, could be coffee cups, could be shirts, could be a plethora of things, right? There are people that collect alcohol. Um, former
Councilman Tom Cassella, it sounds here, but um, he he goes and buys special bottles of alcohol, my understanding, from all kind of places. And so that provides something for him to add to his collection. And so I want to be
perfectly clear here, there's there's no promotion of drinking or promotion of anything. It's just a product that the distillery puts together with our logo on it. Um, it doesn't reflect upon us. If somebody was to buy all 100 bottles, drink them and go out and I mean they
could they could do that with any other alcohol and again any other H spice drum. It's out there. This is just a again a commemorative commemorative item for the people that do like that sort of thing to make it available. And so you
know and I and I will also say and I you know I feel thank you for your comments. Okay. I am a Christian unapologetically believer in Jesus Christ and the last thing I want to do is is to put somebody in position where they would lose uh
their faith and that's what not this is not what this is about. Um there's there's the responsibility of an individual to to do his own thing is is on that individual, right? And God provides those those free will for those type of things. If you want to partake
of them, you can. If you don't, you you don't have to. And so while I hear what you're saying, I don't I don't necessarily agree that we can't have this type of uh item available for for uh purchase for those
that do want to collect it and commemorate the centennial. Um like I said, I would want one myself. And you know, I don't drinking in and of itself, alcohol in of itself is not a sin. Um Jesus turned water into wine. Now grant
wine back in the day was not as potent was the but wine is still uh still wine. Little wine is good for the belly. I think it also represents. So I just want to put that out there when I when I vote in favor of this. I don't want to anyone to think uh poorly of anybody who'd vote
yes for this that they're propagating sin because that's not what this is about. It's simply an item that somebody wants to put out there to commemorate our centail. So that sure. So, I'm glad you get your you put your put mine out there, too. Um, we as a city, okay, can
pour into things that are good. And we've got three or four young children under the age of 36 out here right now telling us they're not lead. They're not going that way. So, we as the leaders in this city, we can either say, and I'm not I'm not talking down about you having a bottle in your thing. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about us partaking in that becoming our
we got we own that. Yeah. We're going to generate a vote. We're all going to vote for that right now. I don't think it's our place to do that. Virginia, your Ford alcohol and beverage thing or whatever it is, that's different. But we're the city council and I just don't think we ought to hang our hats on any alcohol. That's just my opinion. Okay. Thank you. Anyone else? Thank you. Okay.
I'm going to go ahead call roll call vote. So, Mayor Hoover, what's your vote? I. Vice Mayor, mayor, what's your vote? N. Councilman Mueller, your vote. Yay. Councilman Hubard, your vote. Yay.
Councilwoman Burke, your vote. Yay. Okay. Motion carries. Again, thank you for your calls, comments. Appreciate you coming. Um, I'm number seven, near local agreement with the city of Newport Richie for delineation of municipal services to the Manatee Point. I pass it to Mr. Copper for introduction. You may remember we had a uh conversation about
this some time back. Um, it all started uh relatively shortly after the hurricanes. We had a resident that lives on Manatee Point and because of the the nature of the property ownership or or more more exactly the nature of the city
lines boundaries running through the front portion of the properties that are on the um west side right side way to look at it I guess of the roadway. Um and because of that there was a lot of
uh issues for that resident who wanted to demolish their house and build a new one. And there wasn't a clear delineation of whose responsibility um you know which building department did that resident have to go to because of that line going down through there.
And so, as you might recall, uh, Newport Richie and the manager of Newport Richie and myself, we had a conversation about, um, coming up with a way to divide those properties up so the residents would know very clearly that, um, if I'm
getting a building permit, I'm going to uh, Newport Richie or I'm going to Port Richie, uh, depending upon how it was broken up. So the map that was laid at your desk in front of you first off apologize for not getting that in your packet kind of shows that delineation.
So the yellowish green properties which are primarily in the middle are those that are going to fall under the jurisdiction of Newport Richie. And the way that came up with this primarily is
that most of the house on those properties is on the uh portion or the lot of the two lots that are in Newport Richie where those that are in blue the majority of the house if not all the
house is in the city of Port Richie. And so effectively four properties are going to Newport Richie. uh five properties would be under the jurisdiction of the city of Port Richie. And we're talking about in terms of services, the building
permits and inspections, uh law enforcement and fire services, solid waste collection, uh public works maintenance, and recreation services. Um what it doesn't include is water and sewer service because most of those I think all of them actually are being
serviced by the city of Newport Richie and not not the city of Port Richie. Um and I we sent a letter out to uh the five properties that would stay within our jurisdiction. Um I did hear back
from three of them, spoke to two, was playing phone tag with the third. uh there doesn't appear to be any uh issues in this. I think some of them were very happy that they would be clear clearly delineated who they call and where they
go to. Um I think the biggest concern they were having was they'd have to change your address, but in this case they would have to change your address. Um, again, this is merely a way for the two cities to understand the jurisdictions related to those those
services so we can help our residents uh do the things that they need to do. Quick question. Are we changing the tax roles to reflect? No. So, so we're just doing this with a handshake effectively. Well, we're doing it with a interlocal
resolution. Well, inter local agreement, but the taxes will still continue the way they reside today. Yeah. In a checkerboard pattern rather than just draw lines. Correct. Down the center of the street. And so that's you know the the real I guess definition of how this
is divided is that the majority of the property tax for that that house those that are going to Newport Richie will be under the authority of Newport Richie and those that are going to the city of Port Richie will stay under the jurisdiction of Port Richie.
Was there any interest to draw drawing a line down the center of the road? those on the north and those on the south would be Newport Richie in in exchange for other properties that we might have where it's a checkerboard kind of
there's probably longer term process to that this if you get the backtory for the this solves the problem immediately immediate problem for the services right but the potential is long term we need to look at trimming these lines into plan you property all over the city
needs to be annexed. It's like a chest. Yeah. And so like I said since last meeting we we engaged the planning board to do some annexation review. Right. Okay. So this this would be part of that. Okay. Well, well, this I would say no because you're not really talking
about annexation because you know this this this would be um you know the opposite of annexation where you know those either the those that are in the city of Port Richie today would have to come out of the city of Port Richie and
go to Newport Richie and those properties that are in Newport Richie would have to come out Newport Richie to go to the city and so there's there's a lot more to that I mean I think there may be legislative state legislative things that we'd have to do there
potentially. Well, the tax rules aren't changing here. All it is is service, correct? Which is this interlocal agreement is going to solve that problem. We know they know our utility guys know and we go from there.
Everything north of 5436 and north of Manatee is going to be under our jurisdiction as far as codes and then the text world we can work out later. I hopefully can or not. Yeah, I mean
I'll tell you that that you know we we didn't talk about that because um I think both of us knew that neither of us want to give up our tax revenues. Sure. Um, and so this again is very clean
related to being able to go to the residents and say this is who you call if you need a building permit, if you need a police officer, if uh, you know, in our case, we don't provide solid waste collection, but Richie does, you know, if you need public works to do something alongside the road. So their
haulers going to have to be on board with it, too. Have they said anything? Yeah. So, okay. um both cities. So, Newport Richie sent letters out to those four. Um and I sent letters out to the five. As I said, I've
heard back from three of the five. Uh two of them I've been able to speak with. One I was playing phone tag with still haven't connected. But to to a person, the the concerns they had was about changing their address, which they wouldn't have to change their address.
Uh, one of them talked about thinking that they were going to be changing their water services to us and again that wouldn't be a part of this. Um, so there really hasn't been actually the two that I spoke to, uh, one definitely is going through the building process to
build a new house. Uh, there's a second one that is thinking of demolishing and rebuilding. So, this would clear the way for that person to know exactly where to go to. Are either one of those ours? Yeah, those both both ours. Okay. So, we're gonna get to my new house for the
higher base. Yeah. And my understanding the letters that were sent Newport Richie um there wasn't any any concerns or objections voiced there. Okay. Good.
Open for a motion to have discussion. Motion to approve uh item number seven, a discussion to adopt the interal agreement with Newport Richie. We'll second that. Okay, second. Any fur discussion?
Discussion or dispoke. Okay, a public comment. See, put to the vote. All in favor say by saying I. I oppose. Motion carries. Okay. Next up, item number eight, discussion and approval of outsourcing payroll functions. I'll pass
it to Mr. Cob's introduction. So, you're not crazy. Uh we did have a conversation about this and you did uh approve uh staff to go forward with selecting pay lossy for payroll and certain human resource functions.
um we began the negotiations of the contract which um if you would have told me that uh we would ended up where we ended up I would have said no way but uh apparently they they don't necessarily believe that uh one that they if there's
an issue the venue should be here in Florida and two certain things that are required to be in contracts in the state of Florida by municipalities they didn't really appreciate having that in the contract. So, uh we broke off negotiations. Um and so in doing that,
we were going to just go back and and look through again the the different uh groups that we had received uh quotes for. But there was a conversation at that meeting, you might recall, about ADP, and what the finance director said
at the time was, well, you know, they haven't returned a phone call. So, I pushed to get the finance director to get them to talk to us and he was able to uh talk and I think if you go
down to or page that is hold page 92. It's the matrix that has the uh pricing in it. So you can kind of see the the different uh comparisons of that based upon what ADP was able to do.
It seems a little bit higher per person um as it relates to the payroll, but they're also giving us four free months um which reduces that cost and also the startup fee cost is a little bit less than what the others are as well. And so
based upon that um we were recommending that we go with AP for the payroll services as well as the certain uh functions that would be provided through HR. Wasn't there a
reason didn't want them because they couldn't take the money from the different So there was something about about that. the one you were looking at that Adam was looking at, they could take the money from the different
So, at at the at the time, we didn't know whether ADP could do that or not. We didn't. Yeah. Now, the others, you're correct. The other uh candidates we had couldn't do that. ADP does have some limitations to that
and they're working right now to find out if they can get around it and do that. that particular backend function makes it easier. That was a big issue. Yeah, was higher. Yeah, there was certain certain things that even with
pay loity um the finance director was still going to have to do in terms of the reconciliation and and some of those type of things. And we'll still have to do that same thing with ADP. But again, they're they're looking to see if there are some things they can do to make that
less of a burden in doing it. Yeah, that was the only thing I remember sticking out that it was a a point. Good point. So, can a chargeback model be created and be funded that way and make the payment out of the general fund and then charge back to the respective other
funds uh for the portion of payroll that was I mean that's what you're effectively trying. Yeah. I you know I I think there there is some complexity in what we're doing
um more so than what needs to be. I'll say that. Um I think one of the limitations though in that is actually our our enterprise software or financial software package. I mean that's that's really the bigger issue here. If we had
a different package, this may be a lot easier. Um, you know, I I have in other cities looked at ADP and we didn't have some of these issues that our our financial package has. And so it it is
more of an issue because of the the software that we use rather than ADT um you know, the way that it integrates and moves moves the money from one to the next. And and that's that's what the issue really is. It's not the services,
it's our our financial software. That's the bigger issue accounting and getting it into ultimately to the Right. Right. Exactly. It's just it's limited to how it can receive that information in we're doing that with journal entries today.
Right. So essentially sadly gota and so again some of this will disappear once you get a new software package. Um, so I mean that's that's the biggest issue. Again, he was going to have to do
some some form of that with anyone you select. Even even with payity, there were still some things that were going to be done more manually than automatically. Um, and again, ADP has at least said they're looking at ways to to
make it more of a automatic process than manual. But um is it still handles some of the the other issues that we see um really well uh and a little bit more cost effectively than than what we were
looking at according to this model too. It looks like it's coming up as the lowest annual cost as well. So with their with their benefits. Yeah. Yeah. I and I would also say that I actually asked Adam about ADP
because it I mean I think that's kind of the market leader I would believe a very robust uh set of tools that they have. So I think we'd be getting much better product. I I think I I'd read that pay the user employee experience maybe on their mobile phone might be a little
more snazzy than what ADP has or something that there's but you have a lot more capability on ADP side that you can tap into. I've been administered to a couple companies that had less employees um very successfully with outsourcing their payroll and it they benefited from
usually and the employees were much happier and it it saved them money in the long run. Absolutely. There was one question about cost obviously it's for the first year it's much lower is it is this an introductory price or you know I
so one of one of the limitations that I have since uh our finance director wasn't able to make this meeting tonight is I don't have that my fingers um I thought that was the case that there was going to be some uh additional uh reductions in cost in future years as
well but I'm not going to say that for a because I'm not sure. Okay. For a fact that's the case and we have the ability to cancel at any time or we stuck. Okay. Yeah. And and I hope that we'll be able to actually negotiate a service
agreement this time. Yeah. And I I think at the end of the day, if we want to get out of that relationship, pretty much any other vendor would it'd be easy to transfer from ADP because it's such a prevalent product out there. So, I think it's a good deal. I make a motion to approve item number
eight uh the uh approval of the outsourcing payroll function to ADP. A second. Okay. Motion second. Any further discussion? Any comment? Seeing none, put all in favor signify by saying
I. I opposed. Motion carries. Did um did you put the spreadsheet together? Did not. Okay. Adam just to do the normal dig agreement to we could uh drop to that. I love to r him when I
have the opportunity. Can I take a little break? Two minute break. We you take uh we'll take five minutes. Yeah. Good committee. We'll take five minutes. Let me try this why is it got to be all things?
Okay, we are going to resume with item number nine. Stantech professional engineering services piggyback contract. I'll pass it to Mr. Cop for reduction. City council has expressed interest in establishing a maintenance dredging program for the canals and waterways within the city of Port Richie to support this initiative. $200,000 been
allocated from the penny for Pasco fund in fiscal year 2025 budget. I recommend that the council engage Stantech Consulting Services, Inc. to conduct necessary study and design work to develop the dredging plan and prepare and submit the required permit applications on behalf of the city.
Stantech is currently working with Hernando County on a similar project and has extensive experience with comparable to other Florida municipalities. Based on Stant's prior work with City of Port Richie, they've done a number of uh different projects for us. They have demonstrated a strong understanding of
our needs, delivered clear and actionable information, and maintain consistent consistent communication and follow-through. Upon council's approval, the next step would be to hold a scoping meeting with stand to define the project parameters. This will result in the creation of statement of work at S. So,
identifying the specific canals and waterways to be included in the dredging program. The S. So, will outline the steps required to complete the study and provide an associate associated cost estimate. Once finalized, the S so will be presented to council for review and
budgetary authorization. And so you might remember when you had the conversation before they had given us kind of a preliminary number based upon not knowing which ones we were going to be doing of 90,000 to 125,000. Uh as I said 200,000 have been
appropriated in the penny for Pasco fund. Um, in the motion, uh, I would ask that you also include in the motion that the city manager and city attorney is authorized to negotiate and sign the necessary operative purchasing agreement to effectuate the approval. We don't
have that at this point in time. Um, but we will have it shortly and so it' be better to have that in there so we can get that negotiated. This will be a piggyback of the Hernando County professional service engineering services contract. I believe that was
done. I don't remember it was in 2023 that they actually did that or 2022 and there was a number of years on that contract. Uh so we'd be piggybacking that the that particular uh contract. Thank you. Yeah, I think it's long
overdue. get this uh scoped out so we can get uh some of these canals cleaned up. I'm I'm all for it. Could you clarify what piggybacking means? Sure. So, I'll let you do this. I'll help. So, piggybacking is using another municipality's contract. So, we get the
same rate as them. It's already been negotiated and all that. So, we're just basically using that same the same parameters. And that's a proven con that's a proven contract that has come to fruition and they're on the other side of it. Everybody got paid and the job got done. necessarily. So, we don't know if it's a valid contract or not.
Well, what happens is if if this this allows the city to not go out to bid, meaning request for proposals out, have companies provide their proposals to the city and go through that process. This this allows you to go to a state or
other city state agency, another city and make sure they went through the correct fitting process. So you look at the requests for proposal they set out the the responses that are provided. Look at why why and how they picked who they picked. Then you'll have actually have the contract that they've entered
into and negotiated and signed. Does it mean that it's done and everyone's paid, but there is a that contract in place and you can piggy back off that. You can change some of the terms and conditions for yourself. It doesn't have to be exact, but it it lets you avoid that that bidding process and it let you move quicker. It's very quick comment. Not
I'm not against this. Okay. I just want everybody to understand that I'm just looking at this from like a pure common sense perspective. Okay? You know, I want to get as many options as possible. I don't want to just jump into one deal and say, "Yeah, we want what they got." Because we don't know what Hernando got at this point. I was going to say
Stantech has done the majority of the engineering in the state of Florida by far. The majority Yeah. these are things I'm willing to learn. I haven't heard. They got great standing with every municipality that dealt with. So, and the outcome of this is we'll have a document that we can put out to bid.
Right. What this does is it it addresses the engineering and scope of what we're trying to accomplish, I believe. And then with that, that is a document we can put out to bid and we can get other bids. And every dredging company
appreciates what Stantech has done. So, it gives us much better choice of picking a dredging company with Stantech than it would with another company. That's important as well. Yes, ma'am. Yeah. I just want to say that so you know the the selection of engineering
firms especially is is covered under state stat I mean there's a special state statute on how engineering firms are to be selected and it's not based upon pricing it's based upon qualifications their their work history.
Um, and generally though in the negotiations, especially when it's going to a larger organization, they get better preferred pricing than what we would get. Um, you know, you can liken it to police cruisers. You know, we can
go out to bid for police cruisers, but we're going to buy three. Um, you know, the different associations that do that buy thousands. And so they're going to get a better price on those uh vehicles than what we would
get. Same thing here. Um this is something the city has done many times on many different cases during the uh storm or after the storms during the storms. Uh we did a lot of piggybacking with contracts through uh Pasco County
for debris removal and oversight and um number of different things. And so it is something that is done quite frequently. Um for a small organization it's preferred because you can again um
utilize a lot of uh very expensive uh employees from other municipalities and counties that review these things and make recommendations and negotiate contracts that you you don't have to spend the time to do that. Okay. Thanks for the explanation.
Any questions? Okay. Any public comment? Oh, we don't got a motion, I guess. Do we? Do we? Oh, I'd like to make a motion. Please do. Yeah. Okay. I'd like to make a motion to approve Stantech Consulting services to conduct the necessary study, design, and permitting
for the development of a maintenance dredging program for the city of Port Richie through the piggybacking of a Hernando County professional engineering services. contracted and authorized the city manager and the city attorney to negotiate and sign the necessary cooperative purchase agreements to effectuate this approval. Second a
motion a second and a very eloquent motion. It was I wouldn't have any further discussion. Any public comment see all in favor say by saying I I opposed. Motion carries. I didn't have any room. That's the standard now. He
set the bar high, did he? Very nice, Ashley. Okay. Very nice. Next up, item number 10. A moment we all wait for interim city manager search. I will pass that over to Mr. Copper for introduction. Uh since the last council meeting, staff has advertised the interim city manager position and
received uh 26 applications. Uh you of course were given access to the folder containing those resumes are submitted. Uh I've attached a spreadsheet summarizing the applicants and indicating how each meets minimum qualifications and I'll go over that real quick in a second. Um and I've
highlighted cans I believe that merit further consideration by council. Um, I recommend the C city council identify which candidates you would like to interview. Um, and then prior to those meetings, I can conduct preliminary interviews and prepare more detailed assessment of the select individuals to
assist in your review. Um, so going over that that very down and dirty spreadsheet I put together. Um, in the uh the advertisement there really a couple uh what I think are important uh
minimums in there. you know, one had to have a minimum of VA degree um and had to have a minimum of seven years experience. Uh I think it's progressively uh management type of experience in their career. Uh we
received 26 as I said um there weren't a lot that actually met the minimum required. Practically everyone except for three I think uh met the minimum BA degree requirement. um and most exceeded
it either with uh MBAs, MPAs, or JDs. Uh I also put a couple other columns in there just for your understanding as you look at that. Um I put in there if they had Florida government experience. And then I also put whether
they were a city administrator, a city manager, or a town manager. Um, in going through it, I again I I identified four that to me were were of interest and and I don't want you to take that thought that well these are the only four that
you should look at. Um, you know, this process is one that you have to be comfortable with whoever you select, right? And I think that you get to know them through the interview process. A piece of paper tells you a lot, but it
doesn't tell you everything. And uh I I can probably say that those that were involved in the last process be you um you know probably had a thought going into an interview based upon a piece of paper and that would probably change
after you talk to them. So it's important that that you know you don't just look at what they've put on a piece of paper but also how they're going to fit in with working with you and and fit in with the rest of the staff that you have. Um so again don't take those that
I highlighted as um you know eliminate faster. Um it's an imperfect science hiring employees and you have to go in with that mindset that that you might look and see and say this person is the
perfect one. Uh but when you start actually meeting them and talking to them it changes and you have to have an open mind to that. So, that's kind of my my spiel on this and I'll shut up now and let you guys off because I haven't
been here before city manager. Did the department heads get any input on this? Because I think that's important too. Not not at this point, but at some point I think if if that's something you want to do. Yeah, I definitely think that's something we should do. department heads should have they should have a So
I did you guys not interview when we hired Matt? You guys weren't part of that at all. There was a there was a staff meetup or something where you got to talk to him but what you didn't actually So they they were involved but and I I
can tell you I went to a couple staff members to get their feedback and I weighed that into my decision making. I think that's important. Yeah. No, I I agree with that and I I think I think going forward we probably ought to definitely uh do more of that. Sounds
similar to the way we interview police that I think that was an excellent process and I think everybody appreciated the outcome of how that worked. Yeah. the um and going back to to to Matt's statement so um about
how the importance of and now this is not exact science when you're looking at these resumes you're trying to rank things uh on on what you see and any research you do um when when we went through that process um Matt was probably fourth on my list um I believe
um but I can I can tell you that every interview that in that process you know make feel good I'm getting I'm getting ready to make it feel good So start with the start with the oh and then we bring five up. So but I will tell you that as I and I can tell you the the first the
one that was first on my list as soon as I talked to him in the meet and greet he fell to the bottom. So just that interaction and as we as we went through the interview process where we each council member interviewed each individual privately uh then we came
back as a collective and and went through some more interview process. I can tell you the entire process from meeting Matt uh going through the interview process, he rose to the top. And so you and as you guys may be aware, we we narrowed it down to two candidates and Matt um was the one that won out. So
it's very important to to look past just words on paper. Um because there's real talent out there that uh maybe the paper doesn't shine as much or somebody not so much it doesn't shine because obviously your your resume speaks for itself but uh there's other resumes out there that
that first glance like wow but they you know when you meet him in person interview them it's not so wow it's you know that AI drives yeah AI can do wonders for for for folks right lot of fluff so you know and just to further again I know I say this in public a lot
I I hate like crazy to lose you and this is very tough to have to do this but obviously we we um we we wish you well I know you do and I I hope you look finally back on us as uh as we appreciate all the help
you put you've been instrumental in getting us where we are today and I applaud you for that so we hope you miss well one thing that he's actually done is he's raised the bar so that we know what we're looking for you know All right.
Thank you. Thank you. From the bottom of my heart and I think I speak for everybody here on council and public, you've been been a great asset. So, thank you and I appreciate you doing the due diligence is kind of going through this for us and and getting us started. So, that
um we obviously need to pick some folks to put through a process. So, maybe before we do that, we kind of talk about the process. Well, let me let me ask a couple questions here because initially we were looking at an interim and then looking at
a a country surge. Did we or do we feel that we have enough information to make a permit to hire or is this are we looking at an interim? You don't know. So, and I'm thinking since we can let these guys go
at will, right? If they don't work out, then you're right back on plan B. Uh, we haven't contacted any search firms at this point. No, not yet. Well, no, we have. Oh, that's another aspect of that. We've reached out to uh three companies
that do uh searches within within Florida or have done searches within Florida. So we we we didn't provide it tonight because we weren't directed to provide that she did call us on that. Yeah. So I think the low was 28 and the
high was 32. Okay. So it was like 28 29 32 I think. And I think that's reflective kind of what we paid last time 30,000 something like that. But you know to come up with 26 I mean we've got a good a good cross section of people.
you know, I I went through and there's a lot to look at. It's possible that these could be permanent. Yes. Yes. So, now just I I wanted to get in Matt's head a little bit here because Matt's got wisdom and experience that we don't when it comes to this. So, I mean, I'm
looking at the highlighted folks here. Matt, is there others that we might be missing that could be that you went through and like did you use a scoring system or you just like put a check or next? I mean, I wonder how you how did you go through these because it's a lot of information. I would throw all these. My head was
spinning by the time I got halfway down and I had to go back and do it again. Then I kind of forgot where I started. So, what's the scoring system or how do you keep track of that? Well, the first thing I did was I got rid of those that didn't have a BA degree. Um the second kind of
um chopping line was those that don't have any direct city higher level city management or city directorship position. Um and
then when I had that narrowed down, I actually I looked practically every one of these candidates up and did research. um search social media, searched all that stuff. They did a lot of search. Yeah. Um you know, I I think there's
some candidates there that present really well on a piece of paper, but when you kind of look at the body of work and uh their experience, it may not be good fits. I'll just leave it at that. Um, and so that's why there there
are some candidates on there that have considerable experience that that uh I didn't think would be good fits for the city. But I I think to go back to the question about permanency, I think you you have an
opportunity and and remember that this was really very limited. We we put this out locally really. I mean, you know, it was in Uh I think the Florida League of Cities, that's where we advertise it primarily and indeed um you know we
didn't hit all the na national uh places that you would normally do for a city manager and so you you really you know this pool is kind of limited um the city manager associations they have a job board
there. Uh I don't know if we put it on the FCCMA or not. Um, I know Florida League of Cities put in it. So, I don't know if we did that or not, but um, you know, normally you would be advertising this on the ICMA and some other, you know, National
League of Cities and other groups like that. And, you know, we we advertise for an intro. And so people that that are right now employed but thinking about um wanting to move, you know, they they they want to move up or they want to
move to Florida or, you know, whatever that that situation is, they're not probably going to leave their job for a possibility as an intimate uh manager there. Um so you're missing that whole group of candidates that
didn't apply. And so I I think I may have said this earlier to someone um you know you may get lightning in a bottle and and the person you bring in as the interim is the right fit for you and you'll never let it go. Um but the reality is that that you know a lot of
these individuals you know aren't aren't working maybe don't want to be a permanent you know they just see it as an ins position and want to move on to the next next job with that um and and I think that you do have an opportunity to
recruit someone that that can you know fill the needs that the city has the staff has you have to to bring the the city into the you know the next phase of its development. So I would I would say if you do an intern don't stop go to
the next step and and get a a a national search going. I looked at all these as well looked at their social media research any articles in the cities about them and uh talked to Matt. Ironically, I came up with the same people he came up
with except for a couple and then Matt came up with some hidden things about him. Thank you, Matt. Uh that kind of took him off the list. So, I kind of look at what he's looking at and see the same thing. Um before we before we go down I
I kind like talk about process first because that's select people is going to be somewhat difficult I guess because there's five of us and there's 26 people here and and different opinions or whatever. So but the process is is the same across all the candies, right? So
um so process-wise obviously we we're not going to be able to do any interviews this week. Um, I think best case we could probably look at doing a special meeting on Tuesday next week potentially, but that's kind of where my head's at. Um, again, Matt's not talked to any of these individuals to see, you
know, we we kind of think we know where they're at. But, um, you know, if they can't come here, one, do we do we want to definitely have them here or we going to allow some virtual? Um, we set up a Zoom for those that can't be here. If you can be in person, that'd be great if
they're local. If not, we could do Zoom obviously for the if it was a for permanent we'd we'd have them all in. We'd fly them in. Do we know from this list how many are local off? Five, three, half of that. I I I
recognize a few local. So, yeah, there's there's uh maybe four or five off the off the total list. Yeah, I would say there's probably about 10 local enough at least. Well, yeah. At least 10, maybe as many as 15 local will
be in in the state of Florida. Okay. So, I think a three-hour drive, four hour drive. Yeah. So, I would I would think it we could if they if they can be here, we prefer them to be here, right? You go through all of them and do like 10-minute interviews, bring them in, 10
minutes, you're out, boom. Well, maybe do possibly longer than that. Again, I mean, I guess if you can be here, be here. Virtual is okay, right? because I don't I don't want to spend any funds to fly people in. And if if we did want to do that, but it's not the same as in
person. You know that. It's not Well, it's you can wear pajamas on the Zoom call. Well, at least the lower half though. So, um I I mean, it's not the same as as being a person. No, but it's it's it's I think it's good enough for what we're trying to do as opposed to
trying to get people here to narrow down. Yes. Yeah. Um, and obviously if we if we if we did have a good warm and fuzzy after that, we could always if somebody was virtual, we we get them in here. Um, well, this will be the first pass
anyway. Then you and then you'd narrow it down and then pick three, right? So from a time timeline perspective, obviously the goal would be to have somebody in place with Matt for at least a week to
do some turnover. It it may be hard to do that depending on who gets selected. Um but let's just say that we set a special meeting for next week on Tuesday the 20th to do all all the interviews. Matt can put that together on his I don't know. It's up to these guys and
him really. Well, they're going to do what we what we want. It's this is our process. It's our responsibility to hire city manager, hire point to interim. I mean, you could take I mean, if we wanted to, we could just pick a name out and hire him right now. I mean, it's it's or we could put him through a a
rigorous interview process. I mean, it's it's really up to us how we do that staff staff and take care of what we need to do. Um, so obviously we we need to do due diligence and so and we need to provide some amount of time. Also, we got our centennial stuff going on this
weekend. So, I think our best chance is either the 19th, the Monday or the 20th to set up interviews and that's providing whoever we select that they can meet that and hopefully with a virtual option that would be very doable and it gives them you know a week
basically to prepare and whatnot. So, I think it's smarter toward the end of the week. I mean, you there's so many things going on this whole Well, it's we can do that, too. But again, if we if we're trying to get some So, ideally, if we had interviews on a 20th and we could make a selection on the 20th, um we
could possibly have them here for that last week that Matt's here, the 26th, the 30th. And depending on who it is, they might be able to come in the next day, right? If they if there's no notice period, they aren working. Perfect. So, I think that's that sets us up for the best case scenario. We we may not
achieve that, but that puts us in a position where we could possibly have them here for the last week. Well, I'll be in Orlando, but I can do virtual. Okay. How long you in Orlando for? All week till Friday.
Okay. Um and obviously this would probably be it wouldn't be just an evening. It would be depend on how long you slept through the day. Whatever it takes. Right. Yeah. You want to bring them into city hall? Well, we would have we do stuff here. Yeah. Okay. Now I can zoom into the meeting.
Yeah, we we figure that out for sure. Um so that aside, um the the other part of the process is is who interviews. You know, we could all just do it together or we could we could go through
interviews individually and then come together. No, I think you get the benefit of everybody answering different asking different questions and hearing the answer. Yeah, I think shorter times and and all of us together is more valuable than trying to multitask my
because I might not see something Bob sees or vice versa, you know, and I think that bringing them in here and setting up, you know, we're probably going to know in about 10 minutes whether the right person or not. I'm just guessing. So, so you think forego individual interviews with us? We just
interview one with you, one with me, one so it' be so let's say we select five people, right? We have a five. That's the way we've done it before. Yeah. And we have a panel here. And so basically they would rotate. So and this is use 10 minutes, right? 10 minutes with each one
of us, five candidates. So each one of us got a 101, they rotate, rotate, and then we all get individual time with them. We ask individual questions and then we come back and we have a another interview session with each group as a group. I think it's a great idea. Right.
I think there's I think there's some value in individual Yeah. conversations as opposed to in front of council. What if they can't meet in person for Well, that'd be a Zoom as well. We could I think Matt said you could probably set up a Zoom station. There'd be some way and we would rotate to that room or
something. We'd figure that out. Obviously, you know, depends on maybe they all could be here. Maybe they're all Zoom. It just depends on Can I jump in on the Zoom thing? How far ahead are we right now as far as the abilities to do Zooms? I think we should be like We have Zoom every meeting. Yeah. Yeah.
Meeting. I have a Zoom. Okay. When I share as I shared to the Zoom, so anybody online, which I think we have one of the candidates online, participants right now. Okay. Yeah, we've got uh at least one on We had a couple earlier. Yeah, they they jump on,
drop off. So, and so it's definitely doable. Um, so that's what's y'all's thoughts you want. I like it. You think we do it now? Are we going to bring in 27 of them or 28 of
them? Are you going to narrow this down a little further or how we going to do that? So, so overall process minute. So, we'll make selection obviously based on some mechanism. Um, Tuesday. Okay. With everybody
special. What time? Tuesday. Well, I guess we'll we'll Are you Is there a time frame you're not available? Well, I was planning on driving up to Panama City, but you know, things could change. Okay. Would you rather push it to
Monday? I'd ra during the day. I got to be somewhere at seven o'clock make a presentation to the sports coast chapter of You're doing you're doing the individual interviews and then the the special meeting all in one day. Yeah. Correct.
So it's going to it's going to be a little bit. So plan on being here for at least half the day. I get up at 5 every morning. I'm ready. Ashley's not. We do. We do have a Centennial Committee meeting on Tuesday. No, you're not. It should be done. Well, we've still
meeting after fact. We had tidy up stuff. Yeah. Postpartum, whatnot. But we can always cancel that and move it to following week. So, that's not a big deal. So, I mean, I kind of I wish it Tuesday because it's it's a week from now. If you roll to Monday, it's a little less time. Um,
go for Tuesday. I mean, um, it's going to be during the day, right? Yeah. Okay. And, uh, again, even the public portion of it could be earlier than 6. We won't have to wait till 6:00 to do it. So, no, it could start at 8:00, right?
Yeah. So, and obviously the the more during the day it is with staff here is easier on them, too. So, any objections to Tuesday? Okay. Um I just called special meeting. So, Tuesday it is. You don't need a motion for that, right? No, I can
do it. And he's got to make sure he can get whoever he can get on board. Five. Yeah. And we'll figure out the times or whatever for everything. Um and so is that what we're doing? We're now at 9 down to five. No, we we discuss that next. So we got Tuesday. We're going to
do some interviews. Gotcha. Um and then um we're going to rotate individuals for some time. We'll figure it out based on how many we choose. And then um and then we'll come together as a group and then um at that point the goal would be to make a decision after the the group
interviews. we could we could uh the thing would be to draft would move forward with an offer you something we had some time to do that that's that's what I say hopefully we over the next day or two after Tuesday we get all said so we get accepted that we possibly have been here so that's that's the best case
scenario so we're going to have Daryl here also and Daryl utilities yeah so um he's good at asking questions too I wouldn't say that we necessarily extend department heads individuals, but we could have
department heads as a group be a station of interview possibly. Well, back to process. We're look, let's say we're looking at five. We narrow that down, collapse that down to three and then engage the department heads or
um well, let me ask the department heads. Do you guys would you guys like one-on-one or would you think just a group of you doing it would be sufficient? I would probably prefer a group on I think we could probably cover most of the questions and then we can ask them if they have any further questions as and they may as a group
come up with different questions that we might miss as why I think they should be here. We could do like we did with the uh chief's interviews. So we had a group of department directors and as we were floating everyone around in different meetings they would meet there with him.
That's kind of what I was thinking. Yeah, that sound good to you guys? Yeah. There's only two of you there. But were you okay with that? Would that happen? Would did that work well? It worked excellent because it gave me an opportunity to meet all of them at a different platform than out here in an open setting and get right. Okay. Good.
Yeah. So, this department heads group, individual council and then city manager I think should be a station as well. Well, he could be at the council when we we're gonna interview him at I think he's already done that. Talked to No,
no, I haven't. That's I I you know one of the things I will do once you select who it is I will I will do kind of a screening interview with a selection just you know get some baseline information so you'll have that as you go into your Do you think that would be enough for you or you want to be part of
the the you could be a station that they would actually hit so so the the idea would be you do your due diligence beforehand okay I think that works Good. Okay. We figure out the times based how many how many we select. So that being said,
we've got list of 26 people here. Um we can um we could all write down a certain number. Let me ask this before that. What do you guys think the
magic number is that we need to pass for the first pass? Cuz they're going or there's going to be multiple passes. Are we going to pick one from from My goal would be hopefully that we pick one Tuesday or Tuesday. Oh, okay. You
guys are That's best case scenario. I think you open it up a little bit. I think you go with 10 and you narrow that down. You collapse that down quickly. Like Matt said, you got to meet these people sometime. I would agree with with more rather than Yeah, I would think more too because I and and and and I do
respect Matt's position. I respect him as a person. He's extremely intelligent. He's been an awesome city manager. But there may be things that I see that he won't see, you know, and that's why I want to make sure we put a little more in front of me than just what Matt sees, if that makes sense. Because Yeah. So,
are you saying you have there's probably 10 you would like to No, I I Hold on. Hold on. I I'm I'm I'm kind of where Matt is on the the ones he's picked here right now for the reasons he's picked them, but I want him to step up a little bit further and give us five or six more that he's looked at. You know, in other
words, he's got his first crosslist and he went down through the list. He was like, "No, no, no, no, no. We'll take those and get rid of those." Can you bring this up to to eight to 10? You can't. You're there now. This is it. This there's no more. So, I think there's probably maybe
a couple in there that my perspective Matt's got his feet in the ground. He's holding. And so, again, understand my my position here with this, right? I mean, I I recognize that that I don't want to be the person guiding you who you want to
select because again, these these there's a lot there that you have to make a decision on because what what we don't want is something maybe to go a little bit astray when you have this person here and you all say, "Well, Matt
selected him." You guys have to have skin in the game because you know there is always that point in relationships where things may not be working out as well as what you like. You have to be vested in making that person successful. Even if it's a short amount of time and in fact probably in a short amount of
time it's worse than a long amount of time with these things. So So I I guess you know to answer you know again what you're saying you know could I throw some more names in there? I could easily do that, but it wouldn't be because I felt that they would be good candidates
for you. They would be to get you the number that you want. And so my thought process is um we got six stations, right? Five council people, one department head group.
So mathematically, if we select six candidates, it's very one's not going to be here Tuesday. Oh, sorry. So, we would So, if we had if we did the same number of candidates as stations, so if we said select six, that would be easy to rotate through that and
then we'd come back as opposed to a longer time. Does that make sense? Um, I don't I don't think it's necessary to open up to 10. Um, I can tell you I had nine that I would that I would reach out
to, but I I know some information about some of the other ones or whatever. And I and I ranked them within there with I got four different colors within there. So, I've um you know, I've got ones to the top. I don't think I need to pull in nine. I think from my perspective five
six is a decent number. If you get if you get too many um it gets decision gets harder to make. I'm okay with five or six. Okay. Which six? So So if we Is there six? That sounds good to I'm good with six. So any objections to that? No.
Okay. So we'll we'll pick six. Um pick six. Pick six. That's calm down. Um, not that we could lottery the I I think that uh we could each I'm just brainstorming here. We can
each write down what six we think. Again, it's public record. Each individual council member write down six and sign it and then we could look at that and try to get a consensus based on everybody's picks. Um, or we could I mean we could just start throwing out
people and talking about them individually and debate. It might be faster to go ahead and pick six individually and then use that as a starting point. What I you got any ideas? You're probably better at this than I am. But any of the above you said
you did do a tally system last time as well. Magnet was a tally system. Um it seemed to work the paperwork will be kept there as no no secret ballots. Um but that kind of worked and you found that a lot of you them Yeah. the same people when when
we did that process um every one of us agreed on four and that the fifth one there was a couple different ones or whatever and so we we came together and we made a decision on fifth and then one dropped out. I don't know if I think it was one of the ones that we was fifth
anyway. So, so that would be my session. Any thoughts on that? I'm willing to just print up all the names and then we'll each put like one, two, three, four, five. You should have you should have in front of you. You mean I got the names here. Yeah. So, I would suggest the clerk and unless there's any other
ideas, pass out a sheet of paper. We each take a moment to pick six people and then we'll tally that up and see what it looks like. Sounds good. Give us a starting point for me. Um, from a public comment perspective, should we open that up
before or should we go ahead and go through our process? I mean, because I the reason I asked because I know one individual's here. Obviously, he spoke before, he wants to speak on that. So, I probably be beneficial for him to speak beforehand. So, I don't think public comment beforehand everyone can hear
what is said and that may or may not and that way anybody else wanted to speak before we make a selection is that procedure is there any objections to that I open up public comment okay so put the top six there six and sign it yeah and we're going to have public
comment before we choose comment like right right yeah that's kind of what I think I just want to make sure Okay. So, I'm going to open up public comment now. Um, I do have two signed up. Let me see who's
first. Also, welcome. Thank you again um to Mr. from Matthew Cppler's point, Mr. Cppler from here on out if that's okay, Matt. Sure. Perfect. Um, as far as educational level, one of
his requirements, I have a jurist doctorate, so I want that on the record. Clear. I have more than seven years of management. So, that's checks that box two on the record. I also employ over 22 individuals in two different states with several multi-million dollar businesses.
I am 34 years old. I encourage you to look to the future of this city and not just today. You've had a love a lot of lovely people speaking today for the future around my age group. It gives diversity and that's very important for a municipality um and the state level
being represented in Tallahassee. Um you know, you have to work with this person. I would highly consider that. I know all of you. I've been to every meeting the last I think three to be exact. I've been in campaigns and etc.
boots on the ground. I've also spoke to each council member at their homes or elsewhere. I spoke with the mayor. So, I want that to be clear. I respect the fire chief and the police chief. I was at the police chief swear in. So, I'm supporting um also let the record
reflect that as of earlier maybe the change um but that I'm the only person here that has applied in writing for the interim city manager position and attending this meeting that has spoke thus far in front of the city council requesting to serve as interim city
manager and ultimately city manager of the city of Port Richie. I believe if you want a job, you show up. That's right. Actions speak louder than words. You have more than paper resumes before you tonight. You have actual flesh and
blood with the will and tenacity to serve in this position. Acceptance of applications closed last Friday. As Mr. Cppler stated, I'm also the only applicant here to have been recommended and supported openly on the record tonight by Mr.
Danny Fields, a citizen of the city of Port Richie. There will also be other citizens that will step forward after I finish speaking in support of me for the position. Time is of the essence. The current city manager, Mr. Matthew Coppler's last day is May the 30th. This means that the city of Port
Richie has only two weeks and three days left from today to select the interim city manager and for Mr. Coffler to get the new interim city manager up to speed and trained. The quicker the city council makes this decision, the quicker the city is moving forward to continue
to reach its goals in meeting the needs of the its citizens with efficiency and excellence. Also would like to note that this will not cost this city a dime or a penny, anything. You all know me and the
service I have done for this city. It takes three votes from city council to make this decision. So, city council, I humbly ask you to hire me, Hunter Austin, for city manager, interim city manager, and ultimately the city manager position, and let's continue to make the
city of Port Richie great again. May God bless the city of Port Richie in Jesus name. I humbly ask to be hired tonight or at the minimum to be interviewed. Thank you, Hunter. Next up, I have Danny Fields. Welcome.
Yeah, I'd like to give my Well, they they get their own time. It's public comment so you can have your time and theirs. Are you going to you're going to give longer time to them? No, I you you need Well, here I'll just get up and say instead of Okay. Yeah. I already
spoke earlier, so you already know what I stand about. So again, Danny Fields 8114 Leo Kid. Uh yeah, the from what I'm hearing him say here to you, he's worked with you. You already know him. That's
that's one of the keys. I know that, you know, you guys are are thinking, but he's been behind uh on different people on voting. He's been at the meetings and all that. He's qualified. Uh you guys could vet him just like you was talking
about and and get to personally know him and ask him some serious personal questions, a group questions, and then that will be uh a decision then you can make with the other candidates. But for me, I know he deserves to be put on this
ballot to be one of them candidates that you're going to put in the the six or whatever you're choosing tonight. I hope his name's on there. That that's what I would suggest you would do uh as a a citizen and give him a chance to be
interviewed personally as well as uh the group with the rest that you pick. Thank you. Thank you, Dan. That's all the times I have, but by show hands, anybody else like to speak? Welcome. Yes. Um well, I'm just uh name address
I'm sorry. Tina Russell, 8144 Washington Street, Port Richie. Um yes, I'm here to support Hunter Dawson. Um and as well as I'm so um honored to just listen to everything and what is the needs of the city and and this position is very
important. And you know, I'm also I stand as you know, a pastor, a spiritual leader, as well as a business owner of several businesses. So, I understand, you know, a business mindset and what it's going to take. Um, obviously not on this degree or this level, but I know one thing about Hunter and meeting him
first is that he's a very innovative, strategic thinker. He's somebody that immediately um, you know, I can see that is a great listener, an active listener. And so even when I go to hire, you know, for my business, um it's not all about
the skill sets or even the experience, but are you a team player and do you listen? And we get people all the time, you know, also, you know, sending into our businesses and wanting to be hired, but I tell you what, we collaborate. I collaborate with my family and those on
our team. And I just think he would be a great addition um to that as well as you know representing you know not only the the city but what you're really trying to do and having a young candidate with you know experience and not only that
but values he holds you know a value of God as you know and I tell you what no matter what city plans y'all may have without God you take God out of it which we all know and I know you're a Christian mayor and I I thank God for that. It's why I'm standing here today,
you know. Um, but the reality is if you take those principles and the values out and you start, you know, seeing churches closed down and things like that or men like this, you know, taken out of these prominent positions, then the city goes down too. That's just an absolute fact.
It's a spiritual fact as well as, you know, a business fact on a on a city level. And so I would like to say that you know as far as Hunter is concerned obviously you know we know that he um carries you know um on an educational level to to meet those minimum require
requirements but I am proposing to you to look you know exactly he actually took the words out of my mouth he's here today and he's been here he's been present and I tell you what on a business level even for me I want to know that people really care about what we do how they're going to represent my
business you know and is abs how they're going to represent me because my face is on it you know and I think he's going to do that very well and also you know just you know making mention that you know the the visionary of a young man always gives a fresh perspective you know
that's why um I I can see that he's obviously carries the skill set of operating day-to-day budgeting overall responsibilities but you guys are creating a movement here and this is why I'm literally here today as well and why I'm doing my part on a spiritual level,
but also on a on a business level. You know, I like to see cities revitalize and rebuilding. And I think that he definitely carries that the skill set, yes, on an educational level, but I tell you what, I wouldn't hire anybody if they didn't carry my vision, personal
vision, and also the character that he has and he carries. And you know, just hearing him tonight and hearing the chaplain here, um, Pastor Danny, you know, it's obvious he cares. And so, I just say thank you, you know, for allowing me to speak. And I hope that
y'all make a great selection so you can continuously move forward because time is money and money is time. Anyone else? Welcome. Hello. Um Marissa Russell 8144 Washington Street. Um you had mentioned
earlier that when you're considering candidates and when you're considering who is to be uh the next city manager that we you have to look past the words on paper and truly you have to look at the character of the individual because it is their character that reflects and
ultimately drives a person's decisions and actions. Um, that being said, I truly do recommend Hunter Dawson for the Port Richie city manager. Uh, there's a scripture that reads, "Let no one despise your youth, but be an example to
the believers in word and conduct in spirit and faith and impurity." That's 1 Timothy 4:12. And truly, I believe uh since the time that I've known Dawson, uh Mr. Dawson, that he um has shown these qualities and these characteristics. Um he is true to his
word. He carries a very respectful respect respectful and honorable um and godly conduct. Um he has a naturally positive and professional spirit. He's a man of faith and holds himself to good morals. Um he is pure in all of his
intentions and all of his actions. And when you think of very important positions like that, these are very important qualities that we need to consider that everyone needs to consider for both as you know, city manager but as a manager of any kind of business.
Um, and uh, you know, knowing uh, you know, Mr. Dawson, I've really come to appreciate how much he has supported uh, Port Richie, how he has supported local ministries, how he's supported local businesses. Um I have appreciate how he
has supported me individually. Um he carries a respect that not many people do towards me as as a young adult and I'm going to be honest about that. And you know he really uh does care about everyone from all ages, stages and phases which is something that you know
managers are to consider and to think about as a manager. Um so uh uh and I do I do speak from experience um and I uh uh really appreciate um Mr. Dawson's knowledge and
wisdom and support and truly believe that he would be an honorable and loyal city manager for Port Richie. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? Uh Jessica Russell, 8144 Washington Street, Port Richie. Um I'm definitely
in support of Hunter Dawson, uh you know, for Port Richie city manager. Um but I speak in favor uh not only for the qualified skill set and abilities that he carries professionally. Um but I also want to highlight what we've been talking about is the godly character
that he does embody. And I believe that the godly leadership is vital because it aligns with the actions and the decisions with not only the overall vision for our city but with God's will and someone who h who is open to the heart of God and to the heart of people
that is super key to what to the transformation that we want to see in our city and the transformation that you guys want to implement in our city and I believe that wholeheartedly. Um, I believe that he embodies those essential qualities and I believe that he is here to set a standard to pri uh prioritize
the well-being of those that he leads and influences um and to foster that growth that benefits our overall city vision and direction. I believe that he leads in his own life and that's just evident in even meeting him and knowing him for the time that I've known him.
Um, and that he does desire to make that change happen with action. So he's it's not just mere words, but it's action. And I really love um Proverbs 29:2 because this verse connects with the impact of a leader's character to the well-being of people and suggesting that
it's righteous leadership that leads to societal joy and prosperity, but it's wicked leadership that causes suffering and unrest. And I believe that among the people. So, I believe that Hunter Dawson will serve and help implement the changes that we aim to have in Port
Richie because he embodies that character and conviction and godly direction that we all uh need to see uh for the change that we want um in our city. So, when a leader prioritizes character and humility and openness to the needs of the people and also the
needs of our city, I believe that we can help create that environment of change that we want to see. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Anyone else? Okay. Uh online, is there anybody online to speak? I know in case there's a
candidate, we have X now. I think there's only one left. Nothing. Okay. Okay. So, with that, if we want to take a few moments and each council
member uh put your your list of six on the paper and then sign that. We will uh we'll then pass it to the clerk, I guess, or and have her total.
Oh, you're trying to get Excel. Oh, we they're in the other council. weird. Okay. My neighbor found Not too late to put your name on the list. We would even extend permanent
Maybe another suit. He's too late. I will personally come to your house and swap the nose for you. [Music] I'm sorry. This is your real test, Ashley. You know what we're going to get is
we're going to get four and then everybody else got this shotgun. But you said you said you discarded some of these ones with a lot of we got Christian president.
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[Music] Okay, let's uh see what any more We're waiting for you. My last That's what I was asking. I need more time. So, who's done? You're done. We already passed away. Okay. Wow. Okay. So, and
take your There's no rush. However long you guys need. No. So actually we can get those like you guys list the names in order of the highest tallies and down. six. And if you want Ashley I can
say if you once you get it tal if you want to bring me I can put them excel we put them on the screen well you can just call them out can you well might be easier to visualize them and we
not everybody's as sharp as you I got it on my screen everybody's got the screen all you do is count. We'll do it your way. How long is it going to take? Just trying to be prepared for whatever we need. Dave needs to start his own blog. Oh, no. It's not a big deal to
type in there. Six people. We got a list right here. Yeah, but I figured you might want to see the scores and public might want to see. And just humor me, David. It take literally two minutes. And then we'll have it. Put me on a
clock. [Music] supported on here. You're just here to just Beautiful. Youth pastor know what they need, how they think. Especially when
you give them positive things and they want to engage, they'll be a hand. You give them a good vision, they will they will run with it and it be the hands of people. They get stuff done. That's why I'm trying to get my church
because we're all old people. That's why I said it's not just old people. We get the youth like the 12 A lot of youth, they'll be behind. Yeah. Okay.
It's called raising up a new generation of Republican patriot leadership. It's part of their responsibility too. I have this conversation can't
is the second class name. Tim D. [Music] Tim from highest to lowest. here. Yep. Okay. [Music] [Music] Oh, I'm just about there. Okay.
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double check this. Yeah. I'm going to throw it. I was trying to get ahead of her time. [Music] So, okay. So, there's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight
candidates. And I'm going to me sort these real quick. [Music] It's nice having technologically advanced. Okay. Okay. Share my screen. Okay. So here's the candidates
in order that they were ranked based on our scores. So we have Christopher Prewards with five, John Manning five, Darren Tangan five, Andrew Butterfield four, Mike Brohart three, Jeff Schub, Michael Mclofflin two, and Tim Day one.
So if we were to if we were to take and select the top six that would be the top six other these these two are tied. So we could take the top five and then debate these if you if you
want to do that rationale or we could we could debate other ones. I mean we could take the top three top four. So, what's y'all's thoughts? Want to take the top five or no kind of is there any debate about that?
Yeah. There was something on seven and eight that caused two of us to vote that way. So, why wouldn't you just pull seven? Well, we can get outside our our
Let me let me make comment about seven. and he both of them worked for Readington Shores. That's correct. Um and I I can give you what I know history and Shubbridge interviewed here one time before. So back when we
hired Matt, um Shubbridge reached out. He was the current Readington Shores city manager. Um and he wanted to be the interim and and possibly permanent. Um and then we went out with the search firm and so he was encouraged to apply with his other people reached out as
well. And so he did apply when he when we came back with a packet. I think they gave us 10 people that went through their process and do you know how many people applied for that back then? There was a lot. I think they narrowed it down to 10 and Jeff Schubert was one of the 10. I don't know where he was at in that mix but he was one of the 10. Um and
then the council took and selected five. When we went through our process, um I uh we the top four were all unanimous. The fifth person was um was different. My fifth person was Jeff Schubert at the
time. Um the and I can't we went with somebody else. I can't remember if anybody else was Jeff. I will say this um on Jeff just for transparency. He came in when we announced the position when John Duke left. He reached out to me. I don't know Jeff Schubert. I still
don't know Jeff Schubert. Um he he has kept in touch briefly. He he reached out during the hurricanes and asked if we need any help, he'd be happy to come down. He had some flexibility or whatever to help out or whatever. Um but outside of that, I've not had long discussions with Jeff on his qualifications. Nothing. Never interviewed him. Um just very short. He
reached out. He was interested. Um he reached out again when he saw it was open this time and was interested. Uh I will tell you that Jeff is currently city manager. uh up at Minnesota. Minnesota. Minnesota. Thank you. Um and
he um he would not be interested in taking an interim only to be the interim. He was he wants the full um position after Jeff Schubert left Reington Shores. Um and I think he was actually in the process of leaving when he applied for our role then. Um I can't
remember where he went after that, but um I actually s suggested that we bring him in as one of the five. He got poo pooed because I think that the previous council tied him to me and they thought that was some kind of favor happening. Like I said, I don't know the guy. Um
seemed like a nice guy, but I I can't I can't say yay or nay. He does have some experience. Obviously, he's been in a beat city. Um so I selected him again as one of my six. Um the when he left, Michael
Mclofflin was then took his place and I think he's been there ever since he don't think he's left now. Um, so that's that's what I know about those two, but they work both did work at Re Shores. Jeff Schub was there and
then Mike took his place and Jeff's in Minnesota now. I'm not sure where Mike is. Um, but like I said, he was in the Jeff was in the mix before and like I said, he went through the process we paid $30,000 for and was selected in top 10. So I, you know, I lend some credence
to that obviously. So, so from from from my perspective, I would suggest that we take the top five that we have there because we all pretty much have a consensus around that. Obviously, a couple people didn't select uh Mike and one didn't select Andrew.
Um, and then pick up Jeff Schubert would be the one that I would advocate for to interview. But I'm I'm cool with that. I'm good with that. Or do we just go with five and call it? We could do that, too.
Again, I think we got we got six stations. It wouldn't hurt to and obviously if we select six, that don't mean we're going to get six to do. So, I would actually say is the next step is we've got eight here, right? Yeah. Um
try to get six and then boil it down to who could show. But obviously, we pick the top six and then try to get those. If one of those can't show, we've got six slots. Go ahead, move down. And Mike would be next. And then attempt would be that to try to fill the six slots. That would be how I would be. But did he say
that he he wouldn't take the interim job unless he's getting the permanent job? That's correct. He Well, he he he's interested in obviously he's at a point in his life, more so his wife, I think he wouldn't want to take the risk coming down here. But I will say this as well,
and this is kind of how I feel. You know, we may we may select the interim and that would be somebody we wouldn't want to restrict this to just an interim. Maybe we talk about that as we approach these people. Are we going to be saying is it strictly an
inter position? You will not be eligible for the the permanent. I think if that's the case, that's a philosophy, right? The way I see it is is we've got candidates. We whoever we select is interim. Um, you may like the person and want them to be the permanent and we want to
restrict them from doing that. And I think it, you know, well, it depends on the person we pick. I guess have a crystal ball, right? Could be the permanent. Well, isn't that under the assumption you're not going out to a head hunter and look? Yeah. Are we
heading to go after the try? So, our first our first step is to get an interim in place. Okay. So there would even if we thought one of these would be the permanent I think we should select them as an interim basis and then
we could always hold off on the search see how they work out and we could always take that up later. I like driving the car before I buy it. Right. Um I knew you would. Yeah. Seems like I've heard that phrase before. the
other. So, that would be kind of how I I think about it. Um, and then let's say that um we select one of these or whatever, they would all potentially could then apply for the permanent through whatever entity. And so, this gives us kind of a look, gives them an
opportunity to talk to us or whatever. And so, I don't think there's any harm in in leaving that open. not to us, but this got to annoy the hell out of them. So, let me and let me let me put it this way.
So, Jeff, for an example, um let's say that we go through the interview process and we all agree that Jeff is our guy that we want to hire. Um at that point, we might he might put that decision on. He said, "Well, I I'll only take it if it's
permanent." and then he would be we'd get to go to the next candidate. Again, I don't know, maybe based on that he would take the interim and roll the dice. Again, it's this is all speculative. Obviously, we need to find the right person for the job, but you can't you can't string these people
along and do this, right? And there's take them for a ride thing either. I mean, process. Yeah. Well, you know, still, right? But we've advertised inter. Yeah, we haven't told them anything. It's not true. Yeah, we we
haven't said it's uh this will only be interum. It won't turn into permanent. If we if we did that that applicants may have changed. I mean, it's it's I think probably the for the most part there may be a couple that only want an interim, but I think for the most part their hope is a turn into a permanent. Matt said
something to me that was very vital. Thank you for that, Matt. Oh, I'm sorry. People look one way on paper, you know, but we have to cohesively just say engine work with these people. Each of
us have to get in there and actually function with these people. So, we're not going to know that until we get touchy feely through this inter interview process. And then if we open up the door to even more for a full-time, that might give us additional people. It's very important for us to pick the right person. It it it is one
of the most important things I think that we will ever do sitting in this seat right here is to get the right city manager in that seat over there. Yeah. I think one of the things that we need to make clear when we do extend an offer to anybody is is it strictly interman you're not eligible for the permit because if you have them eligible for
the permit that limits your candidates that if we do go out for a search they're going to say well I got somebody there he's probably going to have upper hand he's working with staff now. Yeah. So, I would suggest that if we did hire somebody at the interim that we
would if we if we were planning on taking the next step and going forward with finding the permanent that when we make the offer that it is the interim offer only and they not eligible for that permanent role. So that we do get well and that's you're guarant gu
guaranteeing yourself more work and more effort but if we have the a slate of candidates that could meet that permanent role. I think it
behooves us to move forward with an opportunity to look at these folks. We're going to know that we can cut them loose in a month if it if it is a book. I I I think from our perspective, what we need to do is if we find somebody in this group that we think has potential
to be the permanent that we hire them as an interim and we hold off on the search and kind of see how it goes and then we can revisit that. But if we I would agree if we find somebody that we don't think that they might be the permanent waiver, we make the offer that it's
intermole and we you know and we'll see how it goes and let's see what they can do. Yeah. If we're planning to go right and Matt, you speak up here from your perspective. If we hire interman and we go out the next day to bid for a permanent
um and they know that the guy that's the interim can apply is that that would be your pull. Yeah. So that's they're going to say why bother because this guy's he's there doing the job. He's going to have I mean naturally
they're going to have a leg up because they're starting to learn the city and all that. So it it's and not that they maybe it turns out great, but if you're trying to find top quality candidates, you don't want anything interfering from them applying. They need to know that they have a chance at the job. That
happened back with SAS. Yeah, exactly. Well, and what we're seeing is and what I kind of looked at got the final theme here, these city manager types, they change jobs a lot. Like youth car salesman, they're like in all the time.
And man, I mean, you've been in roles. So, what was the longest in years? That's Well, and Newport Richie's got a long term. Yes. Canada as well.
Again, I I will say if you do a nationwide search and don't taint the pool, you will find that you're going to have a lot better selection. Do you think any of these in your professional opinion could could serve
in a permanent role or do you think we need to potentially expand the search and try to get, you know, remember we're a small town. Are we going to have the desire of
somebody relocating and and coming to Florida? You know, I think those are all good things, but are you going to get somebody? I think it's too early to tell. Yeah. Without interviewing. We don't have to
make that decision tonight. No. We just need to find six people to interview tonight. Move forward process and we can we start talking about making a selection. That's the time to have that conversation. So I I think we're in agreement on the top five, correct? Is there any objections to the top
five? Okay. Is there any objections to roll in Jeff Shepridge into that or would somebody rather see Michael or Tim? I'd rather see Jeff. I'd rather see Jeff too. And then do we do we replace any of those that can't show
up with these other two? Yeah, I would and I would say that as well. If if for some reason one or two of those aren't able to participate or they've withdrawn or whatever, go ahead and pull in Mike and then Tim. Yeah, that'd be okay. So, basically this list here, take the top
six and the other two backups can fill the spots if if we got two backup rolls. Yeah. Starting with eight, working to nine. Yes. That any objections? Okay. Is there anything else we need to cover on this for
now? Um, if you want to draft the special meeting up Tuesday. Um, let's I So, let's talk about the time frame. So, if we have six 10 minutes a piece and we do 10 minutes a piece is an hour and then we would
have potentially an hour meeting the two-hour time frame. You want to give a little more time or 10 minutes a piece? How much time you think? 15 20 minutes at least 15. I would say 20 to 20. So two hours of individual interviews
and then we get to reconia council and that could be potentially half hour to an hour depending on how how it goes. Are you talking about for the all together meeting? Yeah, the all together meeting they would potentially be here or zoom and um each one would take time. We probably
give them time to say something. We have obviously we already interviewed them. We could ask questions or whatever. Then we've been going next candidate. I see a minimum of four to five hours to do this job. I see some of them saying it's less than a week's notice.
If we get that feedback, we could always push it. But again, they responded real quick, too. I mean, this was out there what, three weeks? Two weeks? Two weeks. Like I said, it's, you know, it is what it is. I mean, we're gonna give them the ability to Zoom if they can't do it in
person. The ones that are hungry are going to be here in person to feed us. What time would you start? Um, what do you think, Max? Uh, one o'clock after lunch. 20 minutes each. Two hours.
And then the public have a break between 45 minutes per candidate. 45 minutes per candidate and it's a group session. Yeah. Oh, you think they knew that long? Well, you said half hour. No, I said to be the public. Yeah.
Be about an hour or so. I mean, I figured we'd probably spend 10 15 minutes a candidate that we If you got a good idea, let me know. But we we could if
so if if we did 20 minutes per candidate in the group setting that put us at four hours. So they put us at 5:00. We I can't imagine going past six. Like I said, we could be could get out earlier. I think your group sessions they were about 20 minutes for they brought you
guys in for your interview process with the group part. I think it was 20 minutes about 20 minutes each council. I think it was at that point was more of like, hey, I want you to hear what he told me. You know, yeah, you guys were kind of focused. You want to start at noon?
We could do that. Start at noon. That way we can eat lunch before noon and then pop it and go. No. Well, excuse me. Do do we actually I think you I think you should start at earlier in the morning to give yourself
some flexibility and not try to push it. Well, I think about they want to come up the day so you don't have to come up before depending on where they're at. Gives them Yeah. I mean, not 8 a.m. obviously. I would say earlier than noon for sure. Start at Start at 10. And if
things get a little funny and you've got to take a break to go eat, you can do a 30-minute break. There's gonna there's going to be bleed over because even when we were doing the individual interviews when Mr. Cobbler was here, there was bleed over because I was trying to move everybody around and now that you have
the department heads in one of those sessions, we try to stick to it, but sometimes there's a little bit of bleed over. So trying to give yourself a little bit of time and a buffer in between the individuals and your public meeting. Yeah. I mean, I'm just thinking that if you if you start at 10:00 and we
go four or five hours, you know, people normally eat lunch around noon. I just think if we start after lunch, your belly's full, you've done anything and it's heads down, you get it done. I think eat brunch that day. You could do that, too, then just go right through. That's right. I mean, she's
probably wise on that day just in case you get, you know, deep in the weeds. The possibility we could be done by 2 or 3 instead of being here till 5 or 6. We still got to have the public meeting too, right? So, and public guests too, they get later the better for them. Let
me let me just throw this out. You're advocating for each of us to have an angel meeting, individual meeting with each of those candidates. Why? I mean, you just cover plowing the same field again. We could
do it all as a as a group and have a group meeting. I think so, too. Well, so there's it's always nice to have I mean you can have a one-on-one with somebody be different than they get up in front of a panel. I I agree. You have to it's
it's it's it's a different dynamic. So it's good to see that you bring them in. They they tell them a little bit theirelves and and uh give them opportunity to ask any questions. It's off the cuff. It's just a But if we're gonna be firing questions oneonone, if we're gonna be firing questions, Adam,
you run it to 30 minutes. Well, the the idea is you wouldn't be firing a whole lot of questions during the public session. I'm not talking the public. I'm talking the panel session. That's the public session. Public steel session is a public session. Okay. Same thing. It's public meeting. Public going to be
asking questions as well? No. Do you have public comment on that or I don't think you have to, right? No. And the other question was is there's no there's no reason to have to have a certain time for that. Exactly. Be a two-day event. All you have to do for a public meeting, you have to advertise
the start time and you can't start before that, right? That's the only and you know notice people have to be able to come in here. You know, minutes have to be taken for that. Yes. Because you guys are meeting to talk about it. We'll make a decision. And so once we once we make a decision, I have to open a public
comment or what? Before I make it. I think you do. No. No, it's your hiring. Yeah, you are making a hiring decision per charter. It's your It's your decision. All decisions that we make here are decisions, but public if you open to public comment then. I don't think you
have to for that, but you can if you'd like. You didn't last time. No, they can sit here and listen. Okay. I mean, I'm okay with that. So, but it's still a public. They could listen and Yeah. So, can't shut the door
lock. So, it's it's a it's a meeting and in that meeting we make a decision potentially for the the choice. So, hope so, but I don't envision that that uh that public session being all that long. We can narrow it down to you can make it
long you want. You can answer all kind of questions over and over and over again, but hopefully you've edited all that out during your private time and it's just some All right. The private time is not in public view, right? No, that's correct. You one-on-one with one candidate.
We couldn't do it for sunshine law. Two of us in the same room. No, I get that. You can talk to that. That's why I'm suggesting the other u I think I think to have all of our comments and I'm going to bring bring my list of questions just like we did on
the last one. I thought that worked fine. Uh it's just going to lengthen the process and you know because he's not going to know what my questions are or your questions are. So, could I comment maybe someone's
office if I'm doing Zoom oneonone? Because you're going to be gone, right? Yeah. Are they advocating for no public meeting? No, I was advocating for no one on do a panel interview like we did with
Frank. Well, I I mean I I'll be honest with you, I'd rather interview individually as well. I would too. Okay. I mean, you I mean, you don't have to. You don't I don't have to. You don't have to, but I would encourage you to do that. Do mine because when you at the end of the day, when you work I'm going to put them in the public. Okay. Well,
that's important, but I think that's important. Well, when you work with them, Yeah. you're going to be working with them individually, oneonone. That's true. So, I kind of agree with Dave on this one. That's my opinion. Now, let me You can hold your interview how you want. You
can just get to know him. Just you don't have to ask questions. take the one-on-one time to mess and just talk. Tell me about yourself. Tell me about yourself. Are we going to have like an open meeting here? You walk around the tables talking in the public like we did. No, we're not going to do that. Have separate sections, right? No, I'm
talking about like we did when we're not doing a whole day. I mean, if you guys want to do that, we can do that. I think I think you get more out of that than you do sitting on with with a guy oneonone. You got to keep in mind this is an interim city manager trying to get this done very
very quickly. It's uh they literally could be here for six months. I'm ready to throw the dart now. Huh? Well, we're not. So, that's it. You can't see the dart board. That's the problem. I will entertain a motion for whatever and we can vote.
I mean, boy, can we limit this one in oneonone sessions to maybe five minutes or 10 minutes or something like that? We do 15. I think you need more than What? I think 15's right, don't you? 15 minutes goes fast. Yeah, but you got five of us. That's
30. That's a few hours. I don't know that. I mean, five times 15 or 15 minutes. You don't have to you though. You don't know how to talk to people. An hour and a half. We're hiring a city man. If I
ask hold on if I ask if I or anybody ask a question, you got to give them time to answer and they may take a minute or two to answer. I mean, we give three minutes to comment, right? And a lot of people run right up against that. If you want 15 minutes, that's fine. Rest of us will take five or 10, but that's
all you'd like to outline the question. And you do have an offer. Taking you 15 minutes. Take it. Oh, you may not use it, but you Okay. So, is there any objections to 15 minutes? I'll get your panties in. And you could you could take two minutes and say, "Hey,
nice to meet you. I'm going to go have coffee." You don't have to. It's your time. Right. Right. Okay. So, let's set 15 minutes. Let's set an agenda. What What's going to happen when? Start at 8:00 in the morning because it's
going to be taking all day. No, it's not. We're going to start at 10 and we're going to get this thing over in about four hours. Well, by three, I imagine. Okay. And and there's there's not going to be a break. Yeah. Eat your eat your brunch. I don't
like that, but no lunch break. That's why I want to start at 1:00. Well, after your one or noon, they're not going to eat lunch before all of us that talk for five minutes are having lunch. Rest of us are going to go eat. Eric's on a clock. Time to go to Hooters. We're
going to have like an extra hour in there somehow. The unfortunate thing the unfortunate thing about being a mayor is I can't bring a motion. So, you guys do whatever you want. I'll I'll make I'll make a motion that we start at 10 and we go until it finishes and we think it's going to be around three based on Bob
said and uh we do inter individual inter views 15 minute schedules and we'll get Ashley will keep us straight on the how it goes around and then we'll do a group which is the public right Nancy group session that group session could run anywhere
from what do you think 45 minutes to an hour what you need for that is a We have to advertise. We got to do all five of them. Why don't we the public the public meeting we after we if we decide long if you second we do on this this motion here then the next thing
we'll find is we'll calculate that time on 15 minutes and see about where to be we'll add some transition time and then we'll put a break in between and we'll have a public meeting. Okay. So your motive I can I can restate I can restate it for you. So, okay. 15minute inter
rotation starting at 10. That's pretty much it. I second. Okay. Motion to second. Any further discussion? Any public comment? Put a vote on favor signify saying I. I. I. Because I feel like I'm going to be a player here. Uh
opposed. Motion carried. Yes. Unanimously. Okay. So, 15 minutes per candidate is hour and a half, right? 90 minutes. Yeah. Hour and a half. 15 minutes for an hour and a half. Yeah. Okay. So, you
have to have time in between. Have to have time in between. So, we say two hours. Yeah. And then two hours and then we'll take it we'll take uh let's see that that put us at uh that put us at noon. At noon. We'll break for lunch. Break for one hour for lunch. No.
Well, I'd break for two hours and come back at two. No. Why don't we break for an hour? Have it here. We can socialize and talk to them. Well, by the time you leave city hall, go get something to eat and come back across the street. And by you more than an hour,
hour and a half is fine. But I mean 2 o'clock for a public meeting and we I mean we probably out of here no later than 4. You don't have to eat lunch. You can go take a nap. Would it would it be beneficial? The
problem is is if you if you make it too short and people don't get back, then you hold the president. I'm good with that. Didn't we just vote and just make We already did this. So I So I don't need this. I consensus you wanted at 2 o'clock for the public meeting. You don't need a motion. I call special
meeting without any of y'all. So I just I'm just being facilitated. The only thing you can do without That's the only thing I can do. And by golly, I'm going to do it 2 o'clock. That's all you got? Oh, you're not a special. Hopefully somebody shows up. Well, you're I tell you who's going to show up. Didn't we
change the charter that you got excused or you got you got to have a feel free you got to have a quorum to have a special meeting. All right. Anything else on city manager stuff? No, sir. Tough crowd. So 10 to
2 to 4, we're done, right? More than likely. And that's plenty of time to bleed over if we need it. Okay. Next up is old business. Is there any old business? No. Well, some stuff I wanted to discuss before the meeting started.
We didn't get that opportunity right on that. That's what this time is for. We've moved it to the end of agenda so people don't have to wait on. That's not necessarily old business. No. No. No. Next is comments from the g this old business and then we're going to do comments from and you can talk about whatever you want. Well, there's three things. I want to make it brief because we have staff here and everybody wants
to go home. Uh but there's been u issues that come up. A lot of people have been talking about newspaper articles and things about changing the government of the city uh to a strong mayor city. And um I've looked at a lot of this in a lot of small towns like us and we're a small
town which is a problem with that a big problem with that is they've changed into a manager city manager council run city and they're getting away from the mayor strong city because of obvious problems when that happens. Um, I have
not forgot the reason I come up here and and decided to sit in this seat and the people of the city elected me to represent them, not myself. And uh, I definitely didn't do it for the money. I did it because I wanted to see this city get straightened out. We've worked hard
together to get a lot of good identity with our neighbors of the county. Our neighboring municipalities are seeing us in a different way and we're starting to work with us. We worked hard uh to get funding to get things done and we've been moving the city in a positive
direction. I've been very proud to work with these people to do that. If you decide to make this a strong mayor city, um four votes, you could have someone sit in that chair right there and start doing things that you don't like and he'll say tough and
you're not going to get rid of them. And he'll fire him and puts his own police chief in place if you don't like it. He'll get his own attorney. You won't have the city manager because he's the mayor. You'll have an administrator following his agenda. You're not going to get a quality administrator because they don't
want to deal with the politics of a small town. So, I strongly oppose that. And when that happens, also we have a $40 million grant coming for a water plant. You could jeopardize that. You don't
believe me? Do your own research. That's why these cities have changed and I will knock on everybody's door and protest that if someone decides to change the city city's government. I'm all for improvement. I'm all for charters that the charter will get wiped out and
changed if it comes to a strong mayor city. So I'm urging the citizens to pay attention to this. Yes. And don't jeopardize what we've worked hard for to get done. Now I've managed three companies. I've owned three businesses. I've managed several
over the years. I've hired and fired people and 50 years of managing people. My mom's business, my dad's business, and my wife and I have built two from the ground up and sold them. And I'm not qualified to be a city
manager. I don't think anybody up here is qualified because they're great, great mayor. They got good council people, but you can't be a mayor in a city manager effectively for what we need to get this city to move forward.
So, I strongly oppose that for a lot of various reasons. I don't want to jeopardize what we worked hard for and lose our reputation with our neighbors. St. Pete's a big city. They've got administrators and they got a lot more voters paying attention. So, it may work
there in the big cities. In a small city where you got 200 to 400 people voting, four votes can turn this city right upside down so fast and nothing you can do about it. And you won't have quality people sitting here because why? We make motions, they'll get overruled by the mayor. He'll change that charter where
he controls that. No thank you. I don't want to have anything to do with that. So that's all I got to say about that. Second, I think that the staffs every night we have these meetings and I've looked at a lot of municipalities do have limits on their council meetings
and I appreciate their time of being here, but they have families. They're going to get up and go to work the next morning. I don't mind sitting here till midnight. I'm retired. But some of these people don't want to do that. And I appreciate that. And I want to make a motion
tonight to limit our meetings to 900 PM. If we decide that we have a critical issue that we need to address with a quorum, of course, we can vote to extend that meeting for 10 or 20 minutes so we can finish that agenda. But 9:00 is more
most of them are two two hours. We're doing a lot of things. We got a lot of things to work on. 9:00 is plenty of time to get it done. If you have issues you want to work on, see Frank, see Gary, talk to S, meet
Daryl, see what's going on. They'll tell you what's going on with city and bring it to the uh lawyer. Bring it to the city manager. Address that. He'll talk to us. See, what we think he may see on agenda, people can come in and talk. I urge citizens, please, to come and speak. That's how we find out. That's
how we see what's ticking out in the city and that's how we make our decisions. And I'm here for them. I'm here for these guys. They need to go home. 9:00 is it. So, I make a motion to end the meetings at 9:00. Okay. Is there a second? I'll second that. I think if
we stay focused, we can do that. Okay. I have a motion to second. Is there any further discussion? There is further discussion. I mean, we don't have to serve on this on this board. You know, we don't have to. I And I'm a new guy here, but I've served on many boards, and it takes time, especially in a
sunshine state, for us to get things on the table and talk about, get them out of the way. You know, I don't think we should be looking at and trust me, I've got kids that are grown out of the house now, so I'm not sit there having to run up and buy my kids. Some of them do. But this is important. This takes time. It takes a lot of hashing out. There's a
reason why there's individuals who have run their own companies like Bob, like me, and and there's people like Dave who have got incredible backgrounds what he does. The the the you know, Lisa's background here and your background. These are all really
intently smart people in their own little realms that takes time to put this together. We can't just come in with an agenda and start rubber stamping that thing and hitting the road. This community requires more than that. So, I would disagree great with what you're saying on that. Respect what you're saying about the strong mayor thing. I'm
not trying to push a strong mayor thing on anybody. I can tell you right now what I'm trying to do is get us to think. That's all I want us to do. I want us to think outside of the box. Well, I reach people if they they think that way instead of think of what they can do, think of what we can do because you get a lot more accomplished and we
are thinking for the citizens and their money% with what you said the citizens money and they're very interested on what's going on with it. Of course, that's why we have these meetings. But if you have things urgent, talk to the city manager and lawyer outside these
meetings. Talk to him. Talk I mean you worried about things, talk to the chief, talk to Gary. Like I said, sell will help you with a lot of things. Get the segment, put it on the agenda or bring it into discussion. That way it it's gets narrowed down. There's no reason to keep Ashley and these guys here till
midnight. It just there's no reason to do it on 9:00. I said you can do a lot of discussions between 6:00 and 9 and get a lot of agendas done. We haven't been here since midnight, have we? No. We've been to one meeting. We're here till what time today? 10:00. 11. I think we we've been here till 10 11:00 and
it's no need. That's a rare That's a rare occurrence for you. A lot of times it's 8:00. Yeah. So, um there's no reason why we can't put an agenda together and work within that time frame. If you set 15 minutes for each topic, move forward,
cut it off, we can move forward. We got a lot of time to discuss things and please bring things to the table, we can discuss them. We got plenty of time. So, a lot of them are two hours. Like I said, a lot of bigger than ours are two hours. So the the comments I have on that obviously I'd like to get out of
here as quick as anybody else, right? Um we we don't make a lot of money. Um it takes you know we matter of fact we've got significant time invested even before the meeting is here, right? So the last thing we we want to do is to prolong that. That being said, I think a
lot of times maybe some of this stuff u goes on because maybe due diligence up front was not done. uh maybe staff or particular city manager wasn't reached out to and so there's you have to ask more questions and have more dialogue within the meeting. Um whatever the case. Now what I will say is is that we
represent the community and the community has business to do and they expect us up here to do the business and I will do I'll be the first to tell you if I if I'm here till 6 o'clock in the morning because we need to be here discuss city business I'm going to be here 6 o'clock in the morning. Now we can always we can always find a point
where we can decide to table the rest agenda and we can call that but I don't want to be I don't want to be imposed on on a finite time because a lot of times we have important stuff like tonight to discuss and we didn't have any presentations from engineering firms or
whatever. I mean, there's the agenda. I know Matt tries to put an agenda together that that uh fits within probably two, three hour time frame, but again, sometimes we got to have difficult discussions. We got to make difficult decisions and that takes time. And with Florida Sunshine Law, we don't
have the luxury to reach out and talk about things beforehand. We have a city manager attorney, right? But again, the departments and again the more time that we engage city managers, less time he's able to do his job and and and I and I and I've engaged with him a lot. Um he
just you just mentioned it. We've spent a lot of time vetting these issues before we show up in this room. So should have. Correct. Oh, should have. That's a must. If you're not doing it, you shouldn't be sitting here. That's
correct. Simple as that. I talk to Matt and I make decisions based on Matt and then I'll if it's comes to a department head like I know go talk to Daryl about it and then I'll I'm know what I know what to do. I read I did my research before I get in there. Bob, I'm a little confused. Just help me. I'm trying to
understand this. Are we supposed to be going to department heads or going to city managers? No. No. See, we're not supposed to be going department. You're telling me to go work these things out with the the police chief and and and and with the fire chief. I can't I'm not even supposed to be going over there.
Hey, what are you guys doing over there? What about that car over there? Am I supposed to do that? You can sit down with S and Matt and Daryl the water systems and what needs to be done. And I said, city manager, if you meet city manager and you want to have a conversation with the department head, right, it's always best for him to be
there. Now, some city managers don't even allow that at all, but it's really up to the city manager. But the charter prevents you from interfering with within staff. I thought I know a mayor that got called out on that issue. Called out on what? Going directly to departments. Who? You. I was called out
on it, but but it was not true. But no, but the point is is that is not allowed. Right. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. When I first got here, S took me Sammy and Daryl and all the guys at the waterworks and show me the water plant.
That was at his request. Okay. Which is cool. Exactly. We did that, too. I did that. I still want to do that. Just so you know. That that's I told you that's they should that's that's good. So I this is why we discuss some policies what all these guys know discuss it with the manager. Okay. Okay. So this is how
we go down those rabbit holes and we end up spending hours. So I've got a motion and a second on the table. We've had some discussion around it. Um just just to clarify that we go to city manager and if there's staff obviously involved in that then that's something he's let
us know. Um, but by charter, we're not allowed to just go directly to department heads. And and going further, that's I think why Chris brought up the strong mayor. I don't think what we need to to worry about is um what form of government we're going to end up in. We
can have the conversation to make some tweaks to our existing form of government. There's all kind of variations within there. It's worth a conversation. That's all he's asking for. And and and I'm all for that. That's that's kind of where we're at. So don't take that article you saw on the Sun Coast News and read into it because there's a lot of articles going on Sun
Coast News that try to upset, right? Well, at the end of the day, the people would be the ones to decide that, not us, right? So if if in fact we came down and we made that determination that we wanted to tweak it, it goes to people and if they agree, it gets tweaked. If they don't, it's squashed. So but
nothing to worry about. But okay, but to your point, wouldn't a charter change require a a vote? Yes, that's right. outside of this group, right? We'd have to go to the We would have to pass it by ordinance, two readings, and then it would go to a vote. During an election,
yeah, it would be a regular during election. So, if we were ever to get any changes, the people would be the ones that make those changes, not us. We would just get it on the ballot. Well, I'm saying you could get someone come in here and want with a whole lot of money and advertise and promote this and convince full people over top. And in
our in our democracy, if if that's what the people vote for, that's what the people get. They would get it. Yep. Okay. So, that's that's I don't know why I wouldn't agree with it. All you have a vote just like I and everybody else. That's right. So, I got one vote. Okay. So, I don't want to I don't want to go down that path. That's for later date.
Any further discussion on the time frame? Any public comment? Seeing none, I'll put it to a vote. All in favor signify by saying I. I opposed. Nay. Motion carries. Use yes. I'm not sure
what the I got lost. I got lost in what? Okay. So, the motion on the floor was to limit the meeting to 9:00. No. Well, six and I We can change that though. Yes. So, I would be I Okay. So, motion carries. That's going to happen. I
recommend we do a resolution because you do need language that says that's now moving forward. I mean, the the code already says you start at six. Resolution would Maybe you need to put the code. Let me We need to put We need to put it in writing. I need to determine which which way is the best way, resolution or
ordinance. But you need to put in there that you're going to end at nine, right? But there needs to be language that let you extend it, right? Because there are going to be times you're going to have to extend it. Um and that needs to be clarified. So I will I will bring you back something. So the the motion was to 6 to 9. 6 to9.
And that's to draft the resolution. Like we have a special evening and we could extend it. We need language to do that. So, Right. Right. Y talk to Nancy about it. I'd like tonight's a special meeting. There's a CRA that comes right after this one. So, it's that's kind of
a I know that. Yeah. The CRA separate. So, this must be the the council meeting you're talking about. Okay. The CRA is going to be noticed separately and that'll be separate. if the if the the manager puts together an agenda that he knows is going to be recorded at 8 at 8 8:00 which a lot of them are and then the CR is another hour or whatever but
it could extend till 10:00 on those an example of this is you are going to have some maybe if your agenda is small you may have something on the agenda that brings out a lot of public comment right you're not going to say it's nine o'clock sorry stop talking you're going to want to extend it so you need language in your
polic I'll take care of Any other business? One other thing that I wanted to cover is um simple. I just first I want to say Danny, we do appreciate your blessing before our our meetings. I'd like for prayers to continue. I'd just like to limit in
three minutes. Okay. I'd like to make a motion to limit uh our our meeting uh sess prayers to three minutes. That's it. Okay. Is there a second?
Second. Okay. Motion to second. Any further discussion? Any public comment? Minutes is good. Okay. Don't have time to pray. Usually quicker. Yeah. Okay. Any public comment? Seeing
none, I'll put it to a vote. All in favor signify by saying I. I opposed. Motion carries. So, put the clock on 30 minutes for the prayer. Again, it's not been a problem. So, Bob's fired up about it, so get it done.
I'm not really fired up business. Nope. Okay. Well, hey, you're still on the floor if you want. This is uh talking about the speed humps and Ajax. That's old business. It is old
business. The I mean, we're talking about maybe next month. Um, I believe there is coming at the next meeting the close out of the uh safety program. Yeah, the the safe streets for all program because you'll need to adopt
something with that. I'm not sure exactly what the language is yet, but um then shortly after that, I think we'd be able to move forward. And the golf part crossing about the same time, maybe a little later. Um that that's still in
the state review process. We we had asked about that I think last week for uh the old business and we're told that it's still still being considered. I got new batteries in my golf cart that's anxious. So, okay. Anything else? Old business.
Anybody else? No business. Old business. Okay. We'll close business. Comments from the mayor, city council. I'll start to my left with uh vice mayor, mayor. Um I just want to make aware to everybody that this past Uh May 4th through the 10th is National Small
Business Week. I just want to make aware to everybody this past May 4th through the 10th is National Small Business Week. And as a small business person who um has started from scratch, like Bob mentioned earlier, his family businesses, stuff,
small business is what makes America grow. It really does. It makes our towns grow, the right small businesses. So, I really think our focus should be to direct the new city manager to simplify the process for what it takes to come into this community and open up a
business. I I personally bought a building over here on 19 a year ago. A year ago. That's just unacceptable in any world. And it wasn't like I was like, "Oh, I don't have any money. I was trying to get it done. I couldn't get it done." So, we were not friendly enough
in that environment to a business coming into this community here. Um, had I done it, you know, the alternative way, which is like cardboard up the windows and, you know, tile the floors and throw some paint on the wall and hit the road, that'd be one thing, but I wanted a nice place in our community. I wanted to improve the community. And it seemed
like I got punished for that. So, I don't think, you know, doing a little bit of research, and I do, you know, how do you entice small businesses to come into your community? You cut red tape. You simplify the process. You give them tax benefits for coming in and starting
to spend money and to employ people and get that whole thing. We need to do that right here. This community needs that badly. So, I really hope as a council, you know, I agree 100%. Yeah. If we need to do it in three hours, Bob, so be it, man. Let's roll. You know what I'm saying? I mean, you know,
Yeah. I just want I just don't want to continue the path that I just went through, the experience I went through. And I really think in my whole heart, I think the Lord let me go through it because I was going to be here and I'd be like, we don't want to do that anymore. We got to simplify this process. And I'm not saying throw away all the rules for the new city manager
or for us. I'm just saying we need to we need to court them. We need to get them in here. Good businesses. We need to tell them, hey, we're behind you. We want you here. Thank you for looking at our city. Those kind of things. Um, and that's all I have to say. And now, one other thing I want to clarify clearly,
okay? My my goal was not to come in here and ruffle the feathers everybody in this town. It wasn't to come in here and make somebody feel like, "Oh, he's coming in trying to throw his weight around." I didn't want to do that at all. All I wanted to do is I want us to think outside of the box. What I don't want us to do is come in here like
bobbleheads. And no disrespect, say, "Sure, whatever they say. Yeah, we're good." You know, and then we all leave as fast as we can. We're not doing the citizens any favors by doing that. We're supposed to come in here. We're supposed to actually disagree on stuff. we're supposed to throw stuff out there and say, "Well, I don't like the way that sounds at all." That's we're supposed to
vet it right here and come up with a solution that actually fits our community. So, they they voted us in to do that for change. So, that's all I have to say. Thank you all. It's my second meeting. That being said, yes, sir. You have valuable information that you could talk to the city manager about
the agendas coming up and insert your ideas into those. Okay. And that would be valuable and we can toss those around and and make things make a difference. And he told me he gave us two weeks notice on it. He can't make a motion and
he's just the mayor. So don't let that bother you. We spent two hours together. He told me I'm out of here. I'm like where you going? Put me in that. So but I'm thankful for you guys and thankful I get to start with you and I really mean that and I look forward to Well, appreciate you too, Chris.
Raise your own counsel. I I'll include you too. Well, raise your hand if you don't think we should be business friendly. Don't think don't think we should be business friendly. Raise your hand. It's unanimous. We want to be business friendly. So to to add to what
you've said, we need to find the things that make us not business. Like Chris said, we one of the things that we're doing now, we're going through the sign code because that's a business thing. And so that's so unfortunately those things take time, but staff has to act on what the laws
are today. So I think we we all in agreement obviously that we want to be business friendly. Now we just got to go through the painstaking process of making those changes. So we need to bring those things up to council, get them on the agenda, make the changes so that we are business friendly on the code side. One thing I was wondering if
uh we are going to be making any decisions. I'm getting digital signs over on the waterfront like the rest of the city's in PL now. They've talked about today and you'll be seeing it shortly. It's going to go back to planning one more time. Um the official
seems so simple. There's a there's a lot of words in that code. A lot of words, a lot of questions. Well, I know how to write. I know read and write, Dave. I can read and write. But it should it should be I'm not sure when the next PNC meeting is, but it'll be you'll get you'll get something shortly after.
Maybe they need to meet more often as well. You know, I think there's an issue with getting them together more often. Maybe make their meeting six hours minimum. Right. It's good. Council Burke. Hey, there's no problem with doing business. The problem, which I
agree with, is doing business and then going around it and around it and around it and around it. And I think we can be more focused and we can do things quicker. It doesn't mean that we don't take care of what needs taken care of. It just means we stick to our agenda and then don't talk about the
same thing 15 times, which happens. Yep. I have ideas. Unfortunately, I can't discuss them with Chris in manager. Well, briefly, he's going to be gone, but yeah, that's all I got to say. We're good. Thank you. I'm good. Councilman. Hey. Yeah, I'll uh
I'll keep it to one page. Too bad we can't enact that now. All right. Put me on a threeminute clock. 3minute clock. Sir, it's 9:50. We ought to we ought to have our stuff on a threeminute clock. Anyway, uh eight months ago, we had a big uh uh flood
here and we elected to uh wave permit fees, parking issues, those kinds of things. We're coming to the end of that and I believe we extended it through the end of May. My thought was is this the
time that we need to move forward and notify folks to say, "Hey, you know what? We're coming up on the We're coming up on the eight-month window here. Is it something that we need to say, "Hey, we're going to start enforcing things again. We're going to
start charging for permits because time has been allotted. They've come in, not come in. If they haven't, then anyway, so we've our current expiration, Nancy, on that session policy is whatever 90
days was from when you was it 90 or 60?" I may do a 60. So at the end of that it terminates. Exactly. But what I'm saying is should we start making people aware that's for permits that we we did. But what about you know the parking issues stuff
trailers and stuff in their you know uh stuff going on trash in their yard. I mean at some point in time we need to put people on notice that hey we're you know we're out of this period. You need to make sure this is a priority. Get it
get it dealt with. Um make suggestion that uh once or within 30 days within 30 days send out a put a message on the website and send out a message on the text to let them know that that's coming to an
end and then maybe uh was it 10 days out? 60 days. It was 60 days. I don't remember the date you made that decision, but you extended it for 60 days. But it but it's approaching. And my thought was is can our code enforcement guy put a tag on a trailer
and say, "Hey, this is a reminder. This is going to be expiring in so many days. We've added more places for people to park things in the city. Uh there's been two lot storage lots open up. There's opportunity there for them to move
things around." Anyway, um also, um I'm still having problems trying to find the department reports. I would have expected those today, but they're not on they weren't attached. Yeah, they were. Were they? Yeah, they're in the packet
on the on the drive. Okay. Anyway, uh I can't find them on the website. Oh, now the they probably scattered the website. This the point is is they don't need to be scattered. they need to be organized. That's all I'm
suggesting. Um, also, I'd like to know what the update is on the grant status, and we do have a commercial business grant that allows them to bring in uh 20 grand. I'd like to know where we stand um with the spend on that as well as the
spend on the residential grant. Uh, the commercial grant is uh for improvements to their business. Um, so that's it. Any update on the limestone pier? Uh, did they get all the debris
out of the river? Nope. I think there's still I know the last that I heard they were because it was a low tide. They were working into the night actually. Um, but I don't know if they've uh finished where it stands. There's one
big piling still there. There is. Okay. Um, also we have a a blight a slum and blight property list. And what's going on with the property on Quest on the corner of Bluepoint our old post and and Quest? Is
that being I mean there's we we looks like we've restarted that as well. Um, you'd mentioned that uh we're looking at sand uh Stantech. You were trying to get a seaggrass study kicked
off. Did that happen? That's a Stantech thing. Stantech. So that that's to do the seaggrass study. Okay. Perfect. Perfect. I didn't hear that in there. And then how do we stand on storm reimbursement? Are we
keeping that in sight, too? Yeah. So, we're uh just let you know on that the expedited reimbursement process, really unexpedited, by the way. But we've been approved for everything. We were actually supposed to receive uh 50%
of our request, which was I think somewhere around 1.2 million somewhere in there. Um, however, they've not expedited that 50%. And they're now saying that they're going to expedite the whole thing. Um,
so get back in six months. I'll let you know. Thanks. Yeah, we're we're pushing on that as well as, you know, and somebody's been assigned this thing to follow up on it. Adam's got the ball. Uh, actually Pam is the frontline person
on that one. Okay. Okay. And Adam is support on that. Gotcha. All right. Thanks. That's it. Council Hover. When's your last day, Matt? Uh, well, officially it's uh June 1st,
but until then as we can. Now, we got this in coming in. That's only going to give you probably about a week if we get somebody that quick. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to wait. That's it. Yeah. I was going to wait to to say this
at the next meeting when you start, you know, when you done the interviews, but I would I would have concerns that you're if you have someone that quick in place because you know what what you're also forgetting is we have to do some background check and and that could take
a week easily. Can that be done now on these six people? I mean, you could start but is it takes time? It's a it cost money too. Yeah, maybe just and they usually give notice
again. Best case scenario, we get a week and understand, you know, I'm available. Well, I'll be on that's it. Most adjourn for the month the month of June. I'll be on a different time schedule. So,
anybody have to call me like in midnight and after. But uh but I'm always available. So Okay. All right. That's good. Good to know. Thank you. Anything else, Bob? Okay. I've got several things. Just
kidding. Looking for a motion. Motion to adjurnn. Second. Have a motion. Second. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Wejourn. Take five minutes and we'll come right