16.5. 65 at Stanford Bridge. >> Madam Secretary, have roll please. >> Chairman John Eric Hoover >> here. >> Vice Chairwoman Caroline Gonzalez >> here. Member Steve Shardell, let the record show member Shardell is absent from today's meeting. Uh, member Laura
Cano >> here. >> Member Brook Mayor, let the record show that member Mayor is absent from today's meeting. And member Kim Kerry, I'm here. >> Thank you. Uh, >> oh, did she not call you? Forget.
>> And city manager member Andrew Butterfield >> here. Let the recorder show he's here. >> Oh, you're good. Okay, >> we have no minutes. Um, so move right along to the comments from the general public. I open up any comments for
general public. >> State your name and address for the record. >> Oh, yes. Thomas, 88th Avenue, Florida. >> What do you have? Uh, >> no. Just let you know everything is running properly and uh we're ready to go.
Everything's pretty much just like last time. We have the same area as last time. I've been communication with Amy with Walmart. So, she's excited. She put all types of flyers also. Okay. Walmart and stuff to help market the trunk. >> Okay. >> As well as
>> Perfect. Okay. Um and we actually got that company business. So, um if you want to take a seat real quick, we'll go through the thing. We'll have you come back up. >> Perfect. And next up is comments from the committee members. I'll start uh let's start with my right with our newest
addition. Member Canel, you have anything you want to say? >> No, I do not. >> Okay. >> Member Butterfield. U no general comments. member here. >> Um the only thing I wanted to mention is
maybe we need to when Nancy updates that resolution, how many meetings are missed and also how many for quorum? >> Yeah, I will uh have a conversation with her about that. >> Yeah, >> I thought we it may not be on our list. It seemed like I'd ask her to do that, but um I'll check.
>> And also the number of missed meetings at what time you >> Yeah, I will someone. >> Yeah. So, I I I will say Brooke specifically cuz she hasn't been to a meeting yet. I know she's got some conflicts and on this particular meeting, I'd ask her what her schedule
was before we scheduled it. Um, but I think Caroline had already wanted to have it before the That's why this day. So, she probably >> before the 18th. So, we were saying it, right? >> Yeah. Before this car show the car show. Yeah. >> When I I I gave Ashley a couple days. I
think it was today and next Tuesday and whatever, but um you'd kind of already set this one. So, it was a good idea obviously to have it before the car show. So, it could have been the conflict, but um yeah, we'll we'll straighten that out. Um vice chair one.
>> Um all I wanted to mention was um to set like meeting dates before we leave so that we have it already on the schedule. Yeah. >> Um because this one we didn't have it. So just do we get in a habit of it like before we leave? >> Yeah, it was a we kind of forgot that
when we convened. So yeah, we definitely and actually it really needs to be kind of a standing meeting, I think. Um so why don't we at the end of the meeting we'll we'll figure out what's what's good for everybody to make it a standing meeting and we can always change it if we need to. >> Yes.
>> Anything else? >> Okay. Uh I as well don't have anything. Um, oh, I do have something. So, obviously some of our events will have a charity component to it. And so, I did
had a brief conversation with Nancy. Um, and we did a little discussion at the last council meeting. I don't if you saw it, Kim, but um she's in a process of drafting that uh resolution. And there was a a couple things that you have to
do when you when you select a charity in there is basically um you have to show that the money goes to city residents somehow. They have to show that whatever um I forget what the other thing was. You remember Brandy with it?
>> Uh to uh it two-part test to city residents and benefits. >> It benefits the city. I think you have to show the time. Maybe that's what it was that it benefits the city as public use of funds, good use of funds and that the um
>> and ties back to that via some kind of reporting or something. >> So the example is if we give money to a rehab facility, it services our city. It doesn't even have to be in our city, but it services our city and then those funds should be earmarked to people from our city, not from another county or
>> Yeah. So a two-part test. Um, and so with that, obviously, one of the things I was thinking of, um, for the next next mayor's ball, and I I wanted as we do that, um, I know we're going to talk about future events, too, but so I'll get to it there, but you
know, that was going to be a charitable event. I was I was thinking about Tunnel Towers being part of that one because I want to look doing that uh the next one to um benefit first responders and it could be tied into that. But that might
be something that we couldn't do because of this these rules, whatever. So I have to talk to them and see um how that would work. But uh anyway, more more to come on that, but we've got to get that resolution in place. Um I will also say too that um I've got some more
information on the Centennial Rum that that's finished. It's all packaged up. Uh Catches is going to be the retail point to distribute that. Um the I've got the list of like 60some people that had signed up over the the centennial
and so uh Mike Low called me a day with catches and so he's reaching out to the distributor going to do it to get it to him and he's going to let me know once he has that in house and then we'll what I told him is that what we'll probably do is once I know that he has it I'll
send out an email to everybody that's on that list to say it's in if you're interested in still interested in getting a bottle, you got first rights to get one. Um, and then we'll probably set a time frame at catches to um do that like maybe 6 to 9 on a Wednesday
night or something or whatever. Um, so we'll we'll set that up and those people be able to come out and get that and then if there's if there's um after that we can have either have another one or we just have it you make an announcement to city level. Hey, there's still rum available. um you go to catches at your
leisure and pick it up. So, we'll figure that out. But, um >> will you have someone? >> So, so that's the thing. The the liquor license that Catches has, it has to be sold out of the restaurant. >> Okay. >> And so, he um I was hoping that they
could do it at the event um but they can't. So, we don't we don't have a way to do that. You got to get special event license and and unfortunately Point Distillery um didn't have that license to do that either. So, but that was the intent was hopefully selling it into the U car show. So, I said catches is going
to be the distribution point and we'll have to set up some windows of time to to get that out. But I wanted to make sure that we get those people that signed up. >> And how many bottles do we have? >> So, there will be um 96 available. We
have a 100 bottles and I'll share that as well. I shared the council meeting. So alcohol the whole u thing is is is there's a lot of rules right and so the distillery can't
sell less than a full case to distributor. So a case of six and so you get 16 cases is 96 and you have a case with four for the 100. And so there was the what they
had to do was they had to to um sample that out basically. And they sampled it out to me. And the reason that they did that um was that the tags. So I I purchased out of my own pocket the the wood tags, all the the little twine things that puts on bottle. I purchased
the engraving equipment to do all the tags. I spent my full weekend actually doing that. I can do eight at a time. It took like uh 13 or some hours to to do them all. So I got a lot of time and money invested in that and so they gave me the four bottles. So and and one of those bottles which number 25 that I
took since it since the the anniversary of the city was it was you know founded 1925 and 2025 was our centennial. I got number 25 and I donated that to the city at Tuesday's council meeting. So that's going to be here in the case and then I
have number one number 100 and number 70. Um, and so the seven is by year my birth and so all the other numbers are available and we also have a couple people that want to get us because I know S for one wanted to get uh S and
you did you decide on what you wanted? >> What number? >> Yeah. Okay. Good. So that's another reason notify the ones that signed up and then the people that wanted certain numbers get that all taken care of before we open up to the masses. Right. Are we going to have because I thought
about it then for the um car show since we're going to have like a tent that if we can have um what we had in this one festivals was it like a sample bottle or something that we showed and if there is Oh, sorry. If there is more available then we could have like a sign up.
>> Yeah. At the car show. So obviously I have a bottle I can bring up. >> Okay. Um and and and we can have that list we can add to technically I guess >> and we could just tell them you know it's not guaranteed. However, if you if there is availability and it's available
>> if they are on that sheet that would guarantee it a body. So we could >> up to so many up to 96. Well >> up to 96, right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah. >> And then if there's more people then they're at a on a waiting list. If someone says no then they can go and move up. >> Yeah. That's that's kind of what I
thought too is that you know >> if the 63 or four I think on there now whatever some of them may not answer back or whatever. Um and then there's also people that want more more than one bottle and right we talked about just restrict it to one per person. Um, and
then you can always, and what I told uh my catch is I said if if somebody wants more than one bottle, weight list them, and then if there's any bottles, whatever, then you go down and wait list and order to see if uh they get that second bottle, right? >> The goal is to get rid of it all that we don't want.
>> If we do get rid of it all, are we able to buy more or is catches able to get more? >> So, as of right now, no, that's that's it. Okay. Unless unless unless we go forward with Point Distillery and decide to do a regular run of it, which I would
like to see us do that. Um, but that's still up in So, we have to we decide that, but we'll we'll see how this goes first because I'm assuming they're going to sell out and then um, >> you know, obviously, you know, the city
attorney doesn't like the whole idea anyway. Um, so we have what's to cross that bridge, but I can tell you I I would like to see us make that a a regular thing that's something staple in the city. Not staple is not the right word, but a a neat thing that we have here that would be in the local bars
that people could buy and have. you know, >> but it is alcohol and you know and then again I want to tie it so that the proceeds out the city's not going to make anything on it that we continue to fund these alcohol substance abuse
programs and that helps pres um PAR right here in Washington is exactly that they're in the city and so once we make that decision I would hope that it might be them um and I don't know if there's any others in the You know,
>> not alcohol, but it's a substance abuse. It's over by Pams. Well, they were over by Pams. >> Oh, in a shopping center there. >> Yeah. >> Did they just do like substance in general? >> Substance abuse. Yeah. I think it was >> would include alcohol probably. >> I don't know specifically what PAR does.
If they actually >> if it might be the same thing. >> Excellent. And so maybe if obviously the ones that are actually in the city, I'd like to focus on them because that helps us show that it services the city and then maybe just have to work out the proceeds for that. Um actually helping
you know 50% of city residents or whatever they need to do. >> And obviously they wouldn't be a limited if we did get more. Only the ones that we have right now are the limited edition, >> right? It would you would drop the limit off to be subennial edition and we just have some regular. um it'd probably have
to go back to the state or whatever to approve that the label change. >> Um but after that it's you know I think they they could still do that same blend and everything be the same. You would just need to change the label from limited edition to sent edition. >> So these are all handlabeled so that
there's a little um the bottles have a seam on there and so there's a little keystone at the bottom of the bottle and when they normally when they process that's should look over there. Um when they process that they nor process the
machinist roll and those labels get put however right. Well, these were handlabeled to make sure that they were lined up. So that keystone is on the very back lined up and so the seams on the side and so it was, you know, done well. Obviously going forward, we
probably um we want to make it so they could do production without having to intensive hand labeling or whatever, but so the bottle may >> be different. >> Well, could be the same bottle. it just that keystone may not end up if they you
know might be in the front might be in the side not a big deal but the idea behind those in the future would be those will be consumed right probably so not as important >> um any weed ones are are gone
>> so I wanted to to share that with y'all um I think that's it uh did I ask you Did you have anything? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Okay. Moving right along to uh committee
business. Item number one, discussion of October car show trunk or treat event. Also, we got a little bit of synopsis there. Um did you have anything on the board to >> um No, I just wanted to find out like what we're doing. Um we're going to have a a tent. Obviously, I'm more than
willing to be there in the tent. Um are we going to be selling things? Like what is our plan? >> Yeah. So, we originally talked about we got some t-shirts left. We've got coins left that we can sell. Um, and obviously we can probably bring the bottle out and get some more interest in that. Um,
we do need uh somebody to man. I'll be there the entire time. Um, >> and I'll be there too entire time. >> If we are selling stuff, we're going to have to have Adam give us a cash box and some change, too. >> You check with Adam to get a cash box. >> So, would it be cash only or are we able
to say credit card to cash? the cash only. Um we we did have the ability to do that when we there was some donation stuff we did through the chamber, but for this it would be cash only. >> Cash only. Okay. And how much for the t-shirts again? >> I think they were 15, right?
>> Yeah. >> 15. >> I want to say 15. And the coins were okay. >> And was 15 sign up. So, >> so who, so, um, >> let's say TJ didn't request it, but our
police and fire are taking the initiative to have a crew there. >> Okay. >> Anticipating from uh this spring that there was traffic issues >> and uh just when you're anticipating that big a crowd, if we can then we'll support with a a crew there.
>> Yeah. TJ is >> planning on that. >> Quick, come up. Um, I believe the footprints expanded a little bit, right? So, >> yeah, it expanded to where the police last time towards the end of the show, >> they blocked it off.
>> So, basically that back in between bash and the parking lot. >> So, you're not going to be able to go >> back and forth there. You'll be come in >> and out. >> Yeah, they'll they'll come in. They have both ways to come in. You got Waw Wa and then you pass the food from the storefronts and then you come through the back towards the Walmart, too. So
those accesses will be like the ins and outs. >> Okay. East will be able to go. >> Yeah. >> Coming across now. >> Okay. >> Which will make it a lot better for people. >> So that should help traffic flow. >> Yeah. >> And they'll be carrying.
>> Okay. >> For the trunk. >> Officer Perez just contacted me a while ago because she's going to bring a tent and a cruiser and uh dress it up and stuff and hand out candy and stuff. I was figuring on putting those yours tents like all together. You know how we
had last time I was there and then you were there. >> I figured we would still probably keep those areas and stuff. I wouldn't want to put them with like the vendor tents. I would like all you guys to kind of stay together. >> Okay. >> And stuff. And she said that would be great. >> Where would we be? Oh, sorry. Did Walmart ask for a tent, too?
>> Um, they said they're still working to see if they would have people to attend. And I said, of course, no, no problem. because that would be great for them to say thank you and talk to the community and stuff like that. And um >> the same layout as it kind of was last time with >> where the tents were and the food trucks
were kind of >> Yeah. So um yeah, I'm probably going to um it's so basically the same area. I'm kind of moving things a little bit so to keep because the vendors kind of scattered a little bit so kind of keeping them in like the first two rows and then it'll be all the cars and stuff. And now that we have those other
in the beginning, now probably going to put some choice cars there as well as the DJ and stuff. And um I didn't know about like barricades like we had last time with the scenario. >> I was going to ask about that. Do we have barricades? I mean I know we were doing an exchange. >> Yeah.
>> Um what uh >> last time we had them um at the medians where our rectangle is. We had them at the medians at the, you know, driving areas and then um I'd like to have them on both sides now where we're now
blocking off. >> Okay. >> I mean, I can put a vehicle there, but it's just be nice to have just those barricades. >> No, Darl. Daryl's expecting I uh the need I just wasn't sure exactly how many you needed, but I can get that info to him. >> Yeah, maybe if we after this and this
way I can >> Yeah, I guess you can set up that morning or something. >> Yeah. Yeah, just like those guys did last time and they did a great job. >> I think they set up the night before so nobody parked in there. >> No, >> they didn't. They didn't put the barricades up the night before. >> No, I was there in the morning and then they showed up and
>> they hustled. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Um >> I can bring caution tape and stuff too. >> Okay. >> What time are we beginning to like so like to put >> I get there at 7 a.m. >> So 7 a.m. >> Yeah. Vendors will start rolling in. They'll be there. Their setup is at 8:00
a.m. And then, as you seen last time, the cars used to show up. They'll probably be there. I do the roll call for cars at 9 because then the show begins at 10. >> Yeah, probably like I'm right there like cross. >> Who's gonna like Who's going to do the
tent? S. >> Well, no. I mean, as far as help setting up or whatever. >> I can help set up. I just don't know what to do. Are you gonna plan on being there all day? >> I'm not. >> Is he Is he going to join? >> Probably not. >> Oh, no. He don't want to be a part of
it, huh? Probably not. >> Oh, so we have to bring our own tent. >> Yeah, we got table. So, we need the the tent tablecloth >> and then like the coins and the t-shirts. Who has them? >> Okay. Tent table.
So, someone will bring that to us. Okay. And then um where are we going to be set up? Like the city. >> Um same place last time. >> Same place as last time. Center >> and then what are we doing with candy? Are we just bring like do we just bring ourselves candy? >> Did we order those bags?
>> Oh, we did not order the bags because Veronica was um waiting for Sal and was it Sal and I don't remember what it was. We're supposed to get a new city logo. So then we talked and we're like for that we should rather just have the new city logo. I think it was December or
when it was going to go for voting or something. >> Yeah, we're still process. We we kind of settled on one. It needs a few tweaks but it uh it's really nice. >> So we decided because since we are all going in chipping in on it then um why
order >> with the old ones and then we'll just wait for the new ones and then start the new calendar year with them if we can. >> Okay. And then they'll be able to I think it's like seven to 10 days or something like that. Peek out. You're the one that's making the um bags. He said he can do that. >> Okay.
>> So, >> so we won't have any bags. >> We won't have any. I was thinking of just buying like you have some of those ones that I got from We could just bring something. I was thinking of doing little treat bags. Do we have stickers? >> We We're all out of them. Okay.
Or do we maybe do we just get get a bowl and put some candy in it and not worry about bags or >> Yeah. I mean, if I have time tomorrow, like I'll put I'll take I'll buy bags. >> I do have some bags that I bought. >> You have those big bags on? >> Yeah, >> because I was thinking of just getting little ones and putting some candy in it
so that we can get to the kids. >> Um or we don't. Yeah, >> well trick or treat. They're probably going to bring their own bag, I would imagine. >> Pumpkins and whatever. So, we probably only need that. And we'll just give them the >> if they don't have one each got a few or whatever. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um
what else? Oh, I have like little what do you call those? Snap bands or something like that. I have a whole bunch of those that are like for kids. Yeah. So, I was thinking of just giving that too with the candy so they can have it. >> Um what else are we Oh, I was thinking of
putting um like flyers and signups. Like I know for for example, I'm the secretary for the citizen advisory committee. I know we need people like members so to put like a sign up thing there for it. We're having the Veterans Day event um coffee and donuts at the firehouse. So then I was thinking of
putting the like some flyers there for it. >> Um anything else like anything whatever the city needs, we can put information there. Um >> Veronica, are you planning on going to be there for the car show or no?
>> Sure. >> She's still recovering. She's gonna be a spectator. >> Well, I ask I know you guys normally give out hurricane stuff and whatever information or whatever. So, if we got a booth there, we could we could actually do >> that, too.
>> And if you want to type up any type of memorandum or something, I can have the DJ like announcing stuff. Hey, you got to go in the tent. Mayor's there. Shake his hand, >> you know. >> Yeah. >> You know, if there's any lists of stuff, you know, they're looking for some volunteer or whatever. And then we could
just announce that like every half hour or some every hour or something. >> Is it going to be the same DJ? >> Um, this one is a Fran Hash attorney. It'll be DJ. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> She she's the one who did the fireworks, was it?
>> What? >> No, they weren't the ones that did the the fireworks. >> That was I forgot the >> It was the couple Larry. Larry, right? >> Oh, the last one. >> Is it Larry and Last one? Larry. Yeah, they're not going to be on.
>> Yeah. Okay, I'll do that. >> Um, yeah, that's what I was thinking just for our tents. Again, I'll be there. >> Okay. >> Whole time. >> Lord, are you?
>> Yes. Um, I was just going to say I can be there as well. What time are you getting there? >> I'll be there, I guess, when we can start set up at 8. >> Okay. >> And we can start setting up at 8. I can be there at 8 so that I can help you. >> Yeah. Then I don't know if anyone from the fire department like last time come down or the fire truck can come down the
kids to see. I mean, >> well, he said D. They were gonna be there. >> Yeah, they're gonna >> He didn't ask for it, but >> Oh, they're coming. I figured he wouldn't mind. >> Another thing for the kids to do. >> Yeah, I love seeing that. So,
>> I did add it um to the news calendar. So, I added that a while back. Mhm. >> Um and then I see you've been promoting it in social media. I've been promoting in social media. >> Yeah. >> Um and then I'm tonight I'm planning to do more of it. >> Yeah. >> Our response is twice as big as last
month. >> Oh wow. >> I'm at 900 right now. So I figure if half come. >> Yeah. >> I think I mean what's about the cars? >> Yeah, that's cars. 900 cars. >> Yeah. Well, they say, you know, so I always kind of go a third of what they
say. So, I'm thinking 300 cars. >> Wow. >> Yeah, it's going to be twice as big. >> Last time it was really nice. >> Yeah. Everyone was respectful. >> How many How many was there last time? >> Um, we had almost two. >> 200. >> Wow. >> So, going to have probably three or more. >> Yeah.
>> Good. >> Yes. I got That's why like last time it kind of scattered a little bit with the vendors and then they take up a little too much space. So now I have an appointed person to stay with the vendor so when they're setting up they stay nice and tight because all of a sudden they start spreading out like I just
lost four spots. >> Cool. >> Okay. Anything else? >> I don't think so. I don't have anything. >> Beautiful day. >> Good weather. >> No rain. >> Yeah, that was a that was a bummer last time. They were affected too much but it
was bummer. >> And we still Yeah, it was very nice. Yeah. of my first rain show. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Thankfully, it wasn't that horrible, but >> it was good luck, right? >> All right. Good. Anything else? >> And then like last time, if um when it's
time, if I can have you, you know, hand out a trophy. >> Sure. >> Have the board maybe pick out two if you want. Pick out two cars. >> Okay. >> They can be a part of it. People walk around like this, you know, and then we'll just do two >> city choice or something.
>> Yeah. two city choices. That's nice. They like to hear that. >> Okay. What uh did you What's your awards? The same type thing. >> Um this one I'm doing uh I got like um Halloween trophies that has like a witch on a broom >> and then I'll do big trophies for like
best of shows and city choices and stuff like that. >> Gotcha. >> Yeah. So >> cool. You always get those butterflies, you know, as >> close. I'm glad you're running. >> Yeah.
>> Another day in the neighborhood. >> Yeah. >> You know, it's all about showing them the cities here. >> Yeah. >> So, so I guess we're on the car show. Um, obviously we want to try to have another one in the in the springtime or whatever. Is there is there a time frame
you think we should consider? >> Yeah. So, um, let me go through my due diligence to see what those shows are like what the March, April type of deal or whatever. And then, >> yeah, maybe maybe the next meeting come back. So, we kind of get that date set up. >> I'll see what the one because now that gets towards the end of the year now, they start throwing them up 90 days, you
know, to 120 before the event. >> So, I'll start seeing I'm starting to see them now. >> Okay. >> And stuff. And then I figured we do that same time frame >> stuff. And then it would kind of be good if we could stick to that same frame all the time. That' be the intent. Yeah. be ready for it.
>> Okay, cool. >> Might need a bigger boat. >> Yeah, >> nothing else. I think that covers it. We'll uh we'll see you on Saturday. >> Perfect. Great. Thank you very much. >> Thank you, >> Brian. You have something. >> Okay. Happy to have you here. Uh item
number two, discussion on future events. Um, so obviously last meeting we we kind of set up our our four. Um, the Christmas one obviously is the next one that's right around the corner. >> Yes. >> Um, so let's let's focus on obviously that one.
Um, one of the things I would like to kind of see is some music involved in that event. Um, and I, you know, one of the events I wanted to kind of do that I that I didn't bring up that I think would be maybe good to kind of morph
with that Christmas is that we have a um, like a bluegrass bluegrass country music on the bayou. Maybe have a couple bluegrass band, country band or something that we could >> we could do.
>> I'm a big bluegrass band. Um, but after you listen to about four or five songs, it uh gets kind of old, but it's kind of fun to hear the banjo play and all that. And I thought that would be kind of a neat thing. And they do Christmas music and stuff like that. Um,
what's y'all's thoughts on >> I like that idea. I know I was asked last time um to look at some dates, so I did look at some dates. Um, some places are doing because we were doing tree lighting and then like with the holiday
market, but I don't know how we would do that. However, I was seeing that some places are doing tree lighting like starting November 29th, but Thanksgiving is actually on the 27th. >> Um, Tarpon Springs, Safety Harbor, and Crystal River are having their tree
lighting December 5th. Uh, Newport Richie boat parade Christmas parade is December 6th. It'll be that Saturday. And then um Bishop Larkin Catholic School is having their Christmas bazaar December 6 as well. So
>> we don't want to do it on those dates, >> right? >> So then I was like I don't know if December 5th I know it's Tarpon Springs, Safety Harbor, Crystal River. I know Tarpon Springs. I think they do like something big. I don't know about Safety Harbor or Crystal River, but Crystal River did look like they were like
showing a lot of things. Um, and then I do like December 5th because then like we get into the season and then Newport Richie Desert boat parade. >> Mhm. >> But then I don't know if it's all the like too much. >> When's their boat parade? >> December 6th.
And then I looked at it and I don't know if it's too close to Christmas, but like I was thinking maybe the holiday market >> on December 20th that it's the weekend right before Christmas, but it gets people to purchase Christmas gifts and
get in the spirit. And I know we wanted to do that toy drive for children. >> Is there any Well, you're getting kind of late. What is there anything going on 134? >> The 13th and the 14th. I didn't see anything on that. Um, >> Brooksville.
>> They usually do a Christmas fire. >> Oh, wait. No. I think the 13th or 14. I know Palooa. There's a thing called Palooa in St. Petersburg Festival. Let me see when that was. I didn't write anything down for those dates. So, I don't think
there was anything. and Sal had mentioned too that he could possibly get that Johnny Cash guy back for that. >> That's November 29th. So >> that Shop of Palooa thing is in St. Pete. Um >> and that's the 13th 14th.
>> That's no November 29th. >> Okay. >> I I don't have anything on December. Let me see it. >> Does the employee work on a date for the employee Christmas? December 13th is the what their do their Christmas holiday
whatever they call it December 13th evening. >> Correct. >> So that's a big thing. >> Can I ask Can I ask where traditionally have we had a tree lighting? Is there a >> So we'd have to get a tree or name a tree that's living and have a
>> Well, space out. Steve was supposed to find out because they they rent those ones that you see on regular lights that they in the shape of a tree or whatever. I don't know what they cost or whatever, but you know, something we could put in a waterfront park or whatever. Something like that.
>> We're thinking one of the parks, not >> I I guess. What What were you guys thinking as far as tree lighting? >> I know we talked about a little bit about that. >> I didn't know if there was a prominent tree in a park that we could designate. This is the Christmas tree. And
>> I don't know. A palm tree. No. >> Florida. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> we have to go over and look. If we look for a tree, we could maybe find one. You know, Walker Park's pretty wide open. There's no >> put lights on a living tree and just >> Yeah. >> light that tree.
>> Instead of buying one from North Carolina. >> We could just What if we just got one from like Sam's Club that we kept and they brought put it up at waterfront pre-lit? Oh, an artificial. Yeah. So, we could put that. >> I mean, they have 12 foot trees. Hobby Lobby has some right now. They're 50%
off. >> Yeah, >> that might be a option, too. >> Yeah. >> This way. We have one for every year. >> I wonder with it with the wind and all that. Really? I don't know how you would keep one outside though. We end the pavilion. You
you could definitely do something down there, but still the wind and whatnot knocked down. People come out and >> waterfront park probably be the best place to do it. Next park has all the boat traffic and those are smaller.
>> That's why I say I don't know what it costs to rent this thing that they do with the lights or whatever, but those are really kind of cool. And then you know they >> don't they trailer them too? I think >> if it's what I'm thinking of >> they're like it's on a trailer and they just like deliver them and then they
take them away when they're done. I think >> we can check for prices. >> Yeah, Steve was supposed to do that. So hopefully um so maybe it's not that >> you're talking about a Christmas market. You thinking like a one day or a weekend where we set up something in a park?
>> Definitely one day. Weekends are always better if you can do it a weekend, but we really need to >> find somebody. the wiring I have on a like for stalls, you know, tents set up like >> Well, I mean, they bring generators and
stuff. >> Okay. >> Like when they have stuff at Waterfront Park. Um >> I was thinking because I do see they have >> Christmas in the country which is in the Florida State State Fairgrounds. It's held on December 13th and Jingle Bell Bazaar at Eore Holiday Festival in
December 14th. But then I was thinking also if we do it like the weekend of Thanksgiving, if that's something that we can do like after Thanksgiving, then it can start this season for people like for Christmas and get people in the mood. And when does Mount Dora do their
Mount Dora? Because I know that's a big one. A lot of people go to that Christmas tree lighting. >> It's like their holiday tree lighting and kick off the Christmas. And also too, there's going to be places
having stuff all over. I >> think all the times the Christmas parade is December 6 for Mount Dura and holiday concert December 6th. >> Something in November. >> November 11th. Salute to service.
>> Oh, light up Maldo November 22nd. So they're doing it very early >> before Thanksgiving. I mean, a lot of people are well, people travel, but a lot of people are off the day after Thanksgiving, too. So, even if we did it >> Oh, like um Yeah,
>> like a Friday night. >> That's not a bad idea. >> Like a Friday night. >> The day after Thanksgiving. >> That's a I think that's a good idea. >> Yeah. What Kim was saying, cuz that's different. You >> 30 that weekend. >> The Thanksgiving. >> Black Friday. So Thanksgiving, I think
it's the 27th. >> Yeah. >> So the 28th. >> Well, 28th is Friday, right? >> In the evening. So a lot of people are off. So maybe we can start like like at 5 and then have it so you can have like the Christmas tree lighting.
>> There's nothing going on weekend. Like everybody is shopping, I guess, is really what's going on. >> Yeah, people are shopping and there's um >> maybe that is maybe that is a decent week. Of course, then if people if they're got their families over Thanksgiving and all that, you get the
vendors that would want to probably come out and do that. Maybe >> or people are traveling. That's the only other thing too. >> But the good thing too also a lot of people like I know like my family, they travel here, >> right? Yeah. >> To do things here. So go like see lights and things like that for Thanksgiving.
So a lot of people have family that are coming to Florida. So I don't know. I mean it could be a hit or miss. We can try if we want to. If it doesn't work, then the following year we do it a different weekend. But I mean, >> the boat parade for Newport Richie is in the evening on the 6th, right?
>> On the 6th. Yeah. >> And it starts at Waterfront Park. I mean, at the next park, right? >> Does it? >> Yeah. >> Is that the only thing that's going on that weekend? >> No, there was some other stuff. If break
starts in next park, the next park might be the place to designate a tree and do a tree lighting and then everybody gets in their boats. >> Yeah. >> Not a lot of parking. >> Yeah. There's no place to put a tree with all the parking there and >> is Miller's Bayou Cody River would be
the place >> in future. In the future >> in the year 2000, >> but after the boat parade, what is there to do? >> Anything down? I don't think so. I mean, I know. >> No, there's all lined up down there. >> Yeah, there's no like they don't do
anything, right? >> They don't have anything in the park, right? >> I don't know if they have any vendors or not >> to come and do it after. >> That's what I was thinking. Maybe that Sunday, >> Sunday, December 7th.
>> That's not a bad idea. I don't have anything on the seventh. And you could, like I said, you could do the sixth and the seventh. You just um the vendors and stuff during the day
on the sixth and you wouldn't have I mean cuz boat parade is out till night. So >> yeah, >> it might coincide well with that because people could spend some time over here and then go go to the boat parade. Yeah, that's not a good idea.
>> And then seven the Sunday you could have music and stuff and more vendors. I don't know. >> A good idea >> just to manage expectations on a on a Christmas market. There's probably two basic ways of going about it. You go to a company that has a roster of people
that go they're in a different place every weekend. I know hide park in Tampa like they do a monthly thing and the same vendors will be there every first Saturday and Sunday and you won't see them again till the next month the other weekends there's a different market.
>> Yeah. >> Or we could like solicit individual vendors oursel which won't work but >> maybe more local folks that aren't already on that circuit already and already booked. I did see um I actually have gotten inquiries of people asking
us from vendors that work for the Centennial. They have my email if we're having any events. So I always like tell them like we're going to do >> I think I think it's an opportunity to bring people into the town and >> I saw Bikefest last Saturday and I saw Festy Flavors that was there and they
were like oh and I was like hi I'm like you have any events? I told them about our car show they already booked but like they said for the holidays they would love to be there. Hey. Hey, TJ. >> Yes. >> If you don't mind, come back up to >> So, obviously, you got >> He's a guy who corrals vendors, right? >> Oh, yeah. Yeah.
>> Um, >> friend, >> right. >> Um, what's the breadth of that um vendor pool that you have? I mean, obviously you got food stuff. >> Oh, yeah. Everything from, you know, people making plaques or candles or, you
know, selling um re, you know, now the Christmas is kind of holidays. you get all the Christmas vendors starting to come out, you know, the do wreaths and um and then I don't know if you want to do any type of marketing for businesses that like to market their companies, you
know, whether it's health insurance or you know, lawyers or, you know, anyone that's um has a business that wants to, you know, share with the community. So, >> do you do any other events besides car shows or
>> Um, no, I'm starting to maybe create a uh like a flea market atmosphere. >> Yeah. >> Um because a lot of these places that I do them at are asking what about flea markets and I was having some problems in Hernando um just because um the way to get in, the way to get out, how busy
it'll get, you know, so you have people that are coming to shop, people that are coming, people that are going, the vendors. So, but I'm I'm getting more and more now because now that I'm trying to >> Yeah. Do you think you as far as vendors and
to do like a Christmas market, do you think maybe help us out with that? >> Oh, yeah. Of course. >> Well, maybe >> where would we have that? >> It'd be Waterfront Park. >> Oh, yeah. Good. Good nostalgic look and stuff, too. >> Yeah. So that's so we're trying we're talking about a Christmas event or whatever and we want to do some
>> Is the parking better there than next month? >> That's beautiful. >> She saying jingle on the bayou. >> Bethlehem on the bayou. >> Oh Bethlehem on the bayou. It's interesting. Uh
>> Jingle Bells on the bay. >> Jolly Jamboree or something like that. >> Oh that's cute. It goes >> Jingle Bells on the bay. I like that. >> Jingle bells on the bay. Yeah. >> Get the bee in there. Jolly Jingle. That's good stuff. >> That's good thinking. >> If we need any more vendors, we can
always post on Facebook once we set the date and we advertise. The network is get you a good start, but you're going to get >> Yeah. >> Wow. That's good. And I have the list from this ent.
And then maybe we can create and I'll do that. create a list that we can do and just keep it updated like a spreadsheet and just have vendors of different things that we may >> like we might need or when we reach out to them like hey we're gonna have this event oh okay no I don't want this or what are they looking for things like
that so >> do we need uniformity like do you have tents and tables >> everybody brings >> everybody brings around okay >> so I get arrested >> it's an intervention >> our training supposed to be in here.
>> Oh, is there training tonight? >> CPR. CPR meeting. >> Oh, okay. Cool. I was a little worried about Andy. >> Like they're here for you, buddy. >> Yeah. So, we don't have to ever worry about having to give them any type of
tents or tables, chairs. They bring >> Right. Okay. Um, >> let's say we should make that flyer like as soon as possible. >> Yeah, that we we should start. So, we should pick a date if we can. >> Way behind schedule because they're already looking at these
events to start. >> No, we need to get something together. Um, what what time's y'all's CPR thing? Let's start. >> Oh. >> Oh, we were scheduled till 6:30, I think. Right. >> Is fire is fire doing the training? >> Yeah.
>> Okay. We'll try to wrap we'll try to wrap up here. >> We'll take a phone call. >> So I think December 13th 14th it sounded like that gives us time but it's not too close to the holiday. >> Well we were thinking what was it the
like the >> six and seven? >> No this it was six and seven right? Oh wasn't it with the boat parade >> that we said? >> Yeah six seven. if we coincided with them. >> Yeah. >> Might be a nice tie in.
>> Yeah. Because everybody's already here. >> Be an area for that. >> Yeah. And then they'll be like, "Oh, holiday, you know, market." >> November 27th seems a little quick because we need a little time. But that sounds like a good >> What time is the book price? It starts at >> 6 p.m. at >> So we could basically shut the vendors
down at 6 on Saturday and then they'd be there for Sun. We lock the park up or whatever. And >> So we going to do it Saturday or Sunday? But both I think >> both days I think >> the two-day event. >> Yeah. >> What do you think that
>> you know we get dark too? >> Yeah. >> December. From what time to what time on December 6? >> Waterfront park. Um, >> they start probably 10, maybe >> 10 a.m.
>> And that's going to be the market. >> The market. >> Mhm. >> And we could we could we could have music >> going on. >> Yeah. >> At the same time. So, you know. >> Yeah. >> Be kind of like we had set up for the Johnny Cass thing instead of the kids
stuff. We'd have, you know, vendors and whatnot, music playing. And >> so 10 to It starts at 6 parade. So 10 to >> four or five? >> Five. >> Five. 10 to 5. And then December
7th. From what time to what time? >> Same thing. >> Okay. >> Start later. Does the church say noon to Oh, >> yeah. They start noon to 6 >> to 6 p.m. >> Yeah. >> Okay.
>> Okay. So, we can start making the fly ready and start advertising and everything. >> Um, well, do we want to maybe set a another meeting soon? >> Are you guys available next? >> I'll coordinate with TJ. We need to talk
anyway after this about the barricades and things. >> Yeah, I'll I'll stay if that's okay. >> Yeah, if that's all right. Maybe we can. >> You want me to coordinate? I want to go through like food vendors as well. >> And then what about are we charging? Is it free? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> What's normal like 20ucks? >> 20 bucks for a regular um vendor that's selling crafts or anything like that. Sometimes I go to 50 for marketing for people that aren't selling anything but they're marketing their business. And then I would also probably do depending
how many people 50 to 100 for entree vendors that are selling meals. >> Um I always go a little bit lower for people that may be selling some uh desserts and stuff because their prices are a lot lower than the meals. So find
all those prices out. >> So like a home baker would should fall under the craft. I would think >> would we contract with TJ or >> I mean I'll just help I'll help put it together for you guys. >> You interested in being on a committee?
>> I guess I mean pretty soon I guess. >> Why not? >> I call my wife >> because it's a it's a conflict. >> It's a conflict of far >> because he's running >> Oh, the car shallows. >> That's right.
>> All right. that um >> yeah yeah yeah maybe >> let me talk to Nancy see what uh >> I can be >> like a mentor like a >> guidance >> I just assumed all your vendors were car parts dealers so to find out that you
are a resource that we need for >> yeah I was saying the car show is a >> minimal on car vendor vendor >> supported >> supported event >> right >> um where the other so let me talk to Nancy I'll talk to Nancy Yeah, if you're interested, >> anything to help, you know, want to be
able to grow any type of event that you guys have for the community because that's really >> Yeah. Anything that could draw people to the city for a couple hours, for a day, for a weekend, that sort of thing. >> Exactly. >> So, I think I think we we'd start with a Christmas market and then we'd probably
want to be like, hey, why don't we have a quarterly or a monthly market, >> a summer theme, a Easter theme, >> fall festival theme. >> Yeah. kind of grow grow it. >> Like I said, if >> Yeah, I know you got >> if that's something you're get you're kind of branching out into, if you will,
maybe we we we see how the >> I have some ideas, too. >> Yeah. Maybe we can >> this might this might help you >> kind of >> break away from just cars or whatever, help us with the Christmas market. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I'm I'm um I'll do that spreadsheet.
I've been working on it already um for the vendors. Is this something though that we can reach out already >> to just vendors giving them an idea like December 6 and 7 market? Yeah. We don't have pricings or anything, but is this something you're
interested? >> Save the date. >> Yeah. Save the date and let us know that you're interested and we'll come back to you and then we can meet our next time. >> Yeah. Is that something you can make? >> Get ready for the the city Christmas. You know, >> world famous annual holiday market. >> World famous.
>> How you know you're world famous? because you just say you are >> like an elf that he's like the best couple >> we need. >> Um can um the sixth and the seventh for the the
the Christmas thing or the next meeting? >> No, no, no. I mean for the 67 to finalize. >> Yeah. Is it Are we sure that's nothing else going on? >> Yeah. I mean it's I don't have anything and like I said the boat parade and I think that's great because people are here. I mean they're
already here. >> So there's other things that weekend you read off but uh nothing right next door. >> No. >> So we're actually taking advantage of what's next door. Something we're not doing a boat parade. >> Yeah. Like Tarpon Springs. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Tarpon Springs, Safety Harbor, and
Crystal River have their tree lighting December 5th. And then um oh, Bishop Larkin Catholic School um has their Christmas bazaar December 6th. >> Well, if we're going to do so, if we're going to light a tree, right, we need an evening and so we
could do it the sixth because that would uh >> interfere with the boat parade. >> You said TJ, it'll be getting dark. >> What if it doesn't have to be pitch >> because the boat parade, isn't it at night? >> What What's happening on the fifth? The tree lighting for Tarpon Springs, Safety Harbor, and Crystal River.
>> Yeah, it's a lot. >> But I mean, normally your tree lightings are for your community if you go to your community once. >> Maybe we like our tree the fifth. That way the tree is done for the weekend. >> Yeah, I like that idea. >> Yeah,
>> because we started we're like, "Hey, >> we're not going to have anything going on, but it's just a gathering. Maybe we sing some carols, light the tree, drink some eggnog, whatever." Yeah. >> And then then the sixth and the seventh is the actual kind of festive stuff with the vendor. >> That's a great idea. >> Sundown is 5:35.
>> Yeah. >> 5:35. Okay. >> So, think about lighting it up on the 5th. >> Okay. >> And then um obviously people come and whatever. And then um 6th and 7th we have the the market and some music and
whatever we conjure up. >> Okay. So, we want that's what we want. December 5th, Christmas tree lighting. December 6th, waterfront park. December sixth and seventh, the waterfront park the market. And then we'll figure out what theme we like. >> Okay. What do you think?
>> You like that? Sure. And we do jingle bells on the >> I don't I don't get a fuzzy. >> Sure. >> That's just a lot. But I think he'll be good. >> Will take care of everything. >> No, he won't.
That's That's why she's frowning. She So, how could we >> I just think it should be limited to maybe one day or a day and a half, not two full days, three days or whatever. >> Well, the Christmas tree is different.
>> I would I would agree we do all set, but it's got the boat parade right in the middle. That's that kind of >> that's the reason I said go ahead and go to another day. But instead of staff or volunteers running it, it's >> it's really just vendors out there. >> PJ's running it then doesn't have to be.
>> And like I said, the idea they're there. They're there all weekend. You lock up the park, they lock they like close it all up so it's secure. >> I mean, I'm I'm Catholic and stuff, Christian, whatever. But I think I don't really think that church thing I mean I think I mean unless we're going to church, but some of the people that
don't go to church, even vendors, you know, they go to flea markets all weekend. So, I mean, even if you started it on Sunday at 10:00, but you ended at like 3, then this way it gives all those families time to pack up, be with their kids, for school the next day. Well, actually, they have no school. Yeah,
they're not vacation until weeks later. >> I mean, any any large scale festival is not just one day, it's all weekend, >> right? >> It's actually Friday, Saturday. >> No, I know. I'm just >> starting at 12 because it would be at Waterfront Park. I'm hesitant. That's why
>> because of having to track all that stuff that has to get sent to the state. So who's going to track all that? >> What for the reporting? >> Well, part the vendor is going to have to submit that, >> right? Veronica, >> I'm sorry. >> What What do you think about the
three-day thing if it was at Waterfront Park because of the tracking that has to be done? >> Come off this mic. >> For the state for Christmas. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The tree lighting December 5th. There's no >> no vendors. No. But anything that's going to have a vendor, I mean, if we're
doing a two and three day thing, they have to be submitting their profit, all their sales and everything. I mean, who's going to take who's going to track all of that? That's some I mean, um, yeah, that has to be all be tracked. But we did that uh last for July uh for
the centennial and we just reported like a month ago, maybe two months ago. The problem is the vendors don't send us the information and we're having to keep sending them. I think I sent three or four emails to everybody that didn't
submit. So, it becomes a bit of a hassle if they're not responding. So, but vendors know, I mean, we put it out there, we tell them, but if they're not responding to us, we can't report it to the state. Then, you know, >> they're not welcome back to the next
market if they don't. >> They have to report their Gross sales gross sales backh whenever they report the numbers then they get their deposit back. >> That's interesting. >> That's it. >> I mean that ideally
but we'd have to create something to get a deposit. >> Yeah. Well, so we were working on a new vendor agreement, park agreement type thing, weren't we? Where's that at? Is it I guess on the back burner? >> Yeah, >> it wasn't instructed to move forward.
>> Well, no, remember when we were talking about before discussed it like a fee list and stuff, but an ordinance would have to be passed for it and >> if we if we can get and you probably have vendor agreements, I guess, or something. I mean, we
>> I deal with what they sell and stuff like that. >> Yeah. With people that are just marketing their business, >> right? All right. Well, if we have a vendor agreement and we just if we add to it that um by participating, you know, if you want to do a deposit, it's a good good idea. Do a deposit. You get that back once we get your numbers.
>> Um and it and if you don't, I guess we >> I really like that idea. I mean, that's something that could be incorporated probably to the application, right? So, we have a vendor application. We could probably revise that and to add a deposit to it. And actually and and if
that deposit gets forfeited because they don't get their numbers, it rolls into the park fund. >> We put that into like >> I think SCT would like that as well actually. >> Yeah. >> Because then you're getting actually direct donations to the the service the park. No, that's that's a great idea. >> Um if we throw some that would be too
hard to do and then um they just got to keep track of their gross sales which they're doing anyway. >> Yeah. >> All they got to do is give us a number. >> Booth number one had x >> they turn that in before they leave. >> Yes. No, I was thinking about that ideally. I just thought about that and it's >> I mean you can have a time like even though it might end at three say you
know by two start approaching >> well you wait till they're done obviously get the final count but >> yeah there's so much going on at the end >> and I have no problem going around to everybody and say give me your paperwork give me your paperwork like check out whatever >> because they're usually going to still be in one area right
>> yeah and we can you know we can even have them have that form or whatever they need what we need to develop or whatever when they put their tent together, whatever they have that so they keep track of it as they go and at the end of the day they they sign up.
>> Yeah, >> that's right. >> Yeah. I mean, we need to get a better hold on that anyway as we start to do things. So, >> yeah, I think a lot of times they have a digital receipt that tells them what their sales are. I'm sure most of those food trucks have that stuff. The only
>> on the food trucks they have that stuff. I think the only ones that you may have a, you know, but a form may be a good thing too to keep at their vendor site if they're selling like crabs and stuff, you know, homemade stuff. They should have something like a receipt book or something that they >> Well, it depends. They're doing all the
stuff on their >> or phone tablet or whatever. They do now, you know, >> but really that's you're set up with a >> like Stripe or whatever. You go out there and you just do a dump right afterwards. It tells you what >> Yeah. >> to charge. So yeah, as long as as long as we tell them they got to do it
>> and we have a a way or it's a pause or whatever to actually ensure we get that. >> And I think with like the Centennial Festival, it was our first time at least I know it was my first time doing it. Now you learn from it and now you have more of a structure, you know, more that we do it, more we'll have a structure.
>> What didn't work. >> Exactly. And now we know like we got to be on top of them. We got to say turn in this and then they're going through the city. So it's not like, oh, we're saying it for free, not for free. No. And if we're going to do it in the park, what are you going to charge for the vendors? Are you going to do something more of a structure like what uh TJ's doing at the
Walmart where, you know, if it's a food vendor, you're charging X amount of dollars. I I like that idea because either you charge them all the same or you charge different, but somebody's volume here may not be the same volume, you know, here. So, I I kind of like where
>> they know what they're expecting, you know, at that point. They're like, I've been >> Yeah. And then nobody wants to spend $150 to sit there and not make any money, right? So >> no, your individual's making crafts or whatever, lower cost. >> They'll be lucky if they make $100. >> You know, a food truck is going to be
selling a bunch of tacos or whatever. They're going, you know, >> your food trucks are always going to make money. So, you know, if you if you market them about a hundred bucks, you're in a good spot, you know. But your crafty people, you know, 35, >> you might not sell anything. >> 40ucks not sell anything, you know. It's
it's So I think >> sometimes I feel sad with them and I'll tell them and I'll be like just come to the next show you know >> don't worry about it you know >> when you see their face you're like >> well and then but you want them to keep coming back
>> let everyone know when I'm accepting them like I I don't know how your sales are going to be. they don't know, you know, so >> just be aware and, >> you know, we're a family and >> well too, you know, small fee says 25 bucks or whatever and if you don't sell anything and you you have a if if you
don't have a product people want, they're not going to buy it. No matter how >> it just, you know, all of a sudden you spend 150 and you're like, that's a little different. >> I mean, it's nice to have a big event where you walk through and I hardly ever buy anything. So, but I I love walking through and seeing all the stuff, but I
don't necessarily purchase, right? So that's all part of the experience. So you want to make you want neighbor even if they don't sell anything. >> They know they know they're rolling the dice when they get there. >> I'm a purchaser. So I walk and I'm like, "Oh, I like this. I like this." >> When it's 100 degrees out and you're
selling soft serve ice cream. >> Yeah. >> You know you got to sell something. >> Exactly. >> What What other concerns did you have? >> Just the man power for somebody to, you know, be in the park and stuff all the time. the whole time. >> Well, we might have somebody here the
whole time once we lock it up, would we? >> Well, no, but you're still going to need parks people there or public works people there in case there's an issue. You know, people putting beer cans in the toilet >> at the park. >> Oh, yeah. You're always going to need >> things you don't plan for those have to
have city staff at the park. I mean, >> there's there's problems, right? For sure. >> Yeah. I mean, there technically should be somebody there. Newport has somebody there on site all the time when they're doing anything in the park. >> Oh yeah. You need to have fire rescue there. You need to have police there.
You need to have uh you know >> this is why we only we're only doing very small about the city perspective too. >> Yeah. >> But even even this we could contract it out to somebody to run all >> Yeah. We there's things we can do obviously to >> to help augment that.
>> So it's not staff over time, >> right? But there's some essential stuff that you need like that like public works or something just in case someone does a disaster or something toilet starts flooding or >> or you just close the toilets and they use porta bodies. >> I mean that's something too that we can
do, >> right? >> I mean >> and that's another thing. How big is the event? How many people you're going to have? Do you need extra porta bodies? Do you need wash stations? Do you you know it's hard to anticipate that first one would probably
I think it would be >> You have to have like a EMS station or first aid. >> Yeah. >> Did we have that though for the centennial? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> The festival. Yes. >> Yeah. >> You did.
>> Police and fire were there. And we had portaotties. >> No, I know the porta parties, but the festival we had the police, too. >> Yeah. >> For both. Oh, have to think. Well, it's so >> Oh, in the back >> and to help control that, if we're
having a an event like that waterfront park where we've got vendors and stuff set in there, it's going to be on the weekend. >> It's just when that when you shut it down, it's closed and so it wouldn't be open at the crack of dawn on Sunday. In this case, it wouldn't open until noon. So, we can help control that. So, it's a
it's a limited amount of times you got to worry about. >> We can do that. Yeah. >> Yeah. And you can you can close the park down after the event for the rest of the weekend, >> you know. Yeah. >> But you're having it what, three days or two days?
>> Well, what we're talking about, we would basically light the tree up on us. It would be just some of the night we wouldn't have a whole lot going on there other than the tree lighting >> and then we'd next day the vendors would come in early, set up, >> we'd have it do there, then we'd shut it down for the boat parade and they
resume. >> You do a tree lighting and you want to do something, right? You're not going to just do a treat. >> You don't want to draw a crowd and then have no >> You want to bring people over. >> Well, we we could we could have maybe some food trucks could come in Friday night or something if we if we're going to be there all weekend or something like that. >> And what about the movie? I know you had this.
>> We had the We had the Grinch that's the city paid for that they can show. >> Yeah, the movie. >> Well, I didn't think about that. We could do that Friday night, too. >> Movie with the tree lighting and do like candy canes, the >> lighting and then the chocolate or something. Yeah. >> So, we could have some food truck stuff
in there. Yeah. >> Okay. >> A >> lot to do in a little time here. >> We'll be able to make it because you should have seen the centennial festival and the centennial events. >> And can you limit it? Can you limit it to the, you know, if you post it out
there now, right? >> Can you limit it to maybe five food trucks? >> Sure. >> Or something like that. So we don't have 50 applications coming through. You know what I mean? Well, we can we can actually call and pick what we want there and if they
>> from the list that we have >> they're going to show up and we can do that. And that's something too like that's why I was I was saying that if we can we can make a decision on a date now then I can reach out to vendors that we had for the f all the centennial stuff. TJ can reach out to his people find out
what they think and then have a list and then if we call you Yeah. Do you want it? Yes. Do you not want it? Fine. And like that have barbecue, whatever it is, but not like two barbecue stands or two hamburger stand. >> If you hand select if you hand select your vendors, it eliminates a lot of
that, right? And if they want to do it, then it's a two-day event and they can be there both days, you know, and maybe just limit it to those people and see how that works out. I think we have more control now and we won't because that's my my thing that
>> I don't want to burden the city sending so many people and applications and stuff. >> Exactly. >> We can get in control and say, "Okay, I'm just going to use Lola's book mobile, the one that has the little book mobile thing." >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Do you want to do it? Yes. Okay. Here's the application. This is what you have to do. And she's
>> five food trucks and five um handmade stuff. Uh you know, little vendors, you know, the little table. Well, we want to do a holiday market, so we want a little bit bigger. Okay. >> But we not the lighting. >> I'm talking about the tree lighting. Oh,
no. Yeah. Do a couple like you know that stuff. >> Yeah. Like >> any face painting Christmas stocking Christmas. >> Go through the list and then see who who does that stuff cuz there were some there that does like kids stuff.
>> Yeah. There was one the gentleman also that did balloons. >> Tony, >> that was Tony. He was very good that did the balloons. >> Once this town has this, they're going to wonder how they never had it before, >> right? Every town should have its own Christmas celebration. >> Yeah. And if you do like two big food
trucks, you know, two different types of foods like >> two different nationalities creepy one >> and then do like the hot dog guy because that's always something, you know, something that's going to like they have nachos and stuff, you know, and then like a movie and a blanket.
Bring your blanket when they go around Santa Claus. >> So they have they have we rent it. >> Oh, yeah. >> They don't decide when they were have doing that. Well, they would do that real close to >> Christmas. And so, >> but is that maybe we can incorporate the toy drag pick so people can be dropping
off the toys here >> this time like unwrap toys so then when the fire we can give out to children. >> Is that toys to or is that >> that's something I think it was we were planning to do it for the city to give out toys every year to the
residents. >> Maybe that can be the one that December 20th. When we kick that off with the tree lining, whatever, we start accepting gifts or donations for that Toys for Tots thing or whatever. We collect that over the weekend and for the next couple weeks or whatever. And then when the
when the they go around with Santa Claus or whatever, maybe they >> they can give it. Yeah. Right. >> Or something like that. >> We have a Santa. Can we maybe ask Captain Quinn to be in our next meeting so if he can help
stuff? Sure. >> Captain Quinn, >> we would need to create the flyer. >> Yes. Have advertising. >> Um, >> so we should have a meeting soon. >> Come meet Santa at the tree lighting.
>> Uh, I know you're good with flyers. You think you could throw something together for >> sure? >> Oh, you was saying I see how it does. >> Oh my god. >> And what was your idea, Veronica? You said you had a good idea. You just said, "I have a good idea." No, I I was just thinking in my head, you know, when you
go to uh when I took my kids to Disney, of course, it's Disney. >> Yeah. >> They had like this big bonfire, >> but you can't really do that there, right? And I just thought of like s'mores and a movie and, you know, like like a campfire around the Christmas
tree type of deal. You know what I mean? >> I mean, that's just what I thought, >> but >> but didn't we do something like that for the centennial? Did Wasn't there like a ring fire? a fire. It was the >> drunk. >> We were We were on fire.
>> I couldn't remember, but I thought of something like that. Like something that that brings the kids, you know, cuz that's this event is really like for kids for them. >> They have like some of those things like the uh was it like the soap shooter like makes it look like snow, but it's like
suds and stuff. >> You going to have some. Kids love that. That's a safety hazard. >> I got to be the killjoy. Sorry. >> We could maybe put a snow machine on top of the pavilion. >> The movie is good. The movie is good.
Hot chocolate. Like maybe a popcorn maker or something like that. >> You you you said uh we paid to show the Grinch. Is that >> we bought the Well, the city bought the movie. Yeah. Do you do you know how she was going to show that? >> I >> I know where the movie is. I know it's
in the vault. They set it up. They brought the screen, which is a big huge screen. >> Was it rented or >> It was rented and and they set it up and they took it down and every It was pretty cool. >> Oh, so we've done it before. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was a long time ago, though.
>> But it was a company that did this thing. >> A company did it? Yeah. >> That's pretty cool. >> Yeah. The rental companies have us like 24. >> I have a big blow up, but not that big. >> If they blow up, >> that would be cool. That would be nice. >> Coastal rental probably does that. Yeah, Mike,
>> I could read that before Christmas. >> He'll be at the show, too, actually. >> They'll be at the show. Coastal >> rental car. >> I think it's a great idea. So, um, can we >> All right. Well, so, so can I throw the flyer together?
>> Yeah. >> Um, you have anything you need datewise? And >> so, what are So, tell me the dates again. The fifth is the tree. Do we have to make a motion for it or we just do it? >> Um, >> I make a motion December 5th.
>> 6 and 7. >> So, Mike, is there any objections to what we've talked about? Go for it. Okay, that's good enough. >> No fire. >> No fire. >> No fire. >> So, the fifth would be the the lighting and the movie
>> with some with some food trucks like five. I like that idea. And I and I would I would think too that um whatever vendors are there, we we'd want to try to see if they want to do it all weekend so
they have to move stuff. They could stay in there. So you don't have the people coming in and out of the park all the time, >> but it's just limited like those five >> they get the extra day that whatever and then um we'd add to it for Saturday, Sunday. >> And then the vendors could be anything from uh you know art, paintings,
>> jewelry. Yeah. >> Yeah. Those obviously go out. I was saying >> Christmas stuff auto parts and whatever. >> Well, yeah, >> cuz some of those like the Bobo tents and the the sirloin tips and stuff, those type of food vendors, they like to set up all weekend and just leave it like that.
>> They like to come and go. So, it depends on what we get. >> Anyway, >> so for December 5th, um what vendors like type of vendor are we looking for to cater to the tree lighting and the movie? >> Well, we just need some food. >> Food. Some food. And I would think like holiday craft vendors like Christmas
ornaments, stockings. >> Yeah, >> that kind of stuff. >> Jewelry, Christmas stuff, >> like a kid vendor, like face painting and something. >> Yeah, you do face painting. That'd be a good one.
>> Somebody sells those lights. >> Oh, those are I like those. I'm like a child. I like >> back to your rave days. >> Yeah. >> No, >> not me. What about desserts? >> Yeah, they got food stuffed desserts for sure. Yeah,
>> I I'd like to I'll see I'll be I'll see a popcorn/hot chocolate vendor something like that that go during the movie. >> One of the vendors we could do like a carnival truck almost like they do the fried Oreos and it gives us that. >> Do you have a vendor like that?
>> Yeah. Oh yeah. >> Oh, can you contact >> like fair food? a fair food vendor basically. >> Yeah, that'd be perfect for that. >> Nostalgic day and stuff. >> Run out of room at the park. That's a lot we can do. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. People do the cotton candy >> shaved ice >> um >> for parking used a lot. >> Yeah. So, they're they're working on clearing that. So, we can ask for sure. >> Okay.
>> It shouldn't be a problem. If they clear it, we could do the event on on property, but that would be a liability. >> Yeah. >> Stupid. >> Parking would be good there, though. We could do something. Um the sixth and seventh then would be the
>> market music. And you you want to use the uh you want to do Jingle Bell on the bayou? >> I like that. I think that's so cute. >> That's good. >> Jingle Bells on the bayou. What about music? >> We got both kinds. Country,
>> country, bluegrass, >> bluegrass. >> That's going to be nice. >> Now, is that something that the music is that something we're hiring? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, we would uh >> sleep. >> He reached out to I'd like to get that
Johnny Cash guy back and if we could find >> a bit and maybe we >> bluegrass on the bayou. I don't know how many we could do. Yeah, bluegrass on. Exactly. Country blueg grass on the bike. Um maybe we just do
one of each and we But if we're going to kind of do it all, I don't know how how we want to do that. If we want to just a section of time, maybe that's probably better to a section of time where it's, you know, an hour of one hour of the other, something like that.
>> Have an event thing like say like I >> a concert period. >> Yeah. But it also be nice if you had some stuff going on all day music wise and we could have somebody that just >> maybe plays Christmas music or something. A DJ >> Christmas karaoke. >> The DJ you had at the last of them was
pretty good. >> I did like them. However, I did notice and I got comments after that. I don't know if it was for the centennial or for the fireworks. they were talking too much and it was
more of talking than playing. >> So, we would just say, you know, let's just play music. But I think it was cuz we were trying to do announcements and stuff, too. >> Yeah. >> But I did get from like some spectators and stuff that said they were talking too much. So, you didn't like you would
enjoy the music outside. >> So, we don't want that either. >> But you can tell them, hey, because I think they were fantastic. I love them. >> Yeah. They're very interactive, like very nice. >> Well, obviously Saturday's evening is
out. So, Saturday just the market leading up to it. >> Yeah. From 10 to 5, >> we'd have Right. And so the on the Sunday we would have the >> I loosely called a concert or whatever. We'd have >> um we still have the vendors there or
whatever. And then towards the end of that we would have the music at the end or we'd have a couple couple three bands or something. >> Is that something that we because it is a Sunday night but however is that something we want to put like the music
like the little concert like >> that would end it off and after that it was over >> and then everybody's done. Okay. So from 12 to 6 that's fine. >> Yeah. We think so. 12 to 6 to like from 4 to 6 maybe have the music. That' be nice. It'd be good to like wind down for
the evening. >> Okay. >> Anything else you think? >> We want the Do we want >> stuff for kids? >> Like like sound head for the sitting area? Yeah. >> Like what? >> Um >> I imagine we still set it up the same way where they played in the pavilion.
That's kind of the stage. >> Oh, that's something cute. And then we can do like a Santa's box where kids just come and there's like a cut area where maybe we get cards donated. >> Do that Friday >> and then the kids can like fill out a Christmas thing to Santa and pretend and put it in like a Santa box and just have
that kind of involved. >> We could do that. I mean that's something that us if Quinn wanted to. We could have him sitting up there in the pavilion that Friday night too. Christmas lighting and the movie >> and Santa Claus. >> And I like that idea though. I think that's something that we can have all
weekend. Like the little kids just click and color and >> you know just >> Yeah. >> send a letter to Santa. That's >> Yeah. So it's not like they have to be bouncing in a bounce house, you know? They're just like doing more Christmas stuff. >> Yeah. Christmas stuff. You like bounce. I hate bounce houses. I think the
stupidest thing ever >> bounce houses the size of that like capsules. >> No, no. I'm I'm getting to the point I could be saying with his belly, but uh no dunk tank in December.
>> What would be a lot of fun is if maybe uh we can ask police chiefs to ask Walmart and see if they could donate cookies and the kids could decorate cookies. >> Oh, cookie decorating there in the pavilion would be good
>> because you got the space for it, right? >> You would have to buy. >> And if they're going to do letters, >> Yeah. Cookies. You have to be careful because of allergies or stuff like that. >> You have to be careful with cookies because of allergies. >> Peanut allergy. We could be sending kids
to the hospital. >> Yeah. We don't want to do >> You say calories or allergies? >> Allergies will be the >> I have to worry about because of calories. >> Yeah. Well, they I know that there was a town in West Virginia that did like a coloring contest. Like >> you can make ornaments.
>> They can make ornaments or they could do like their coloring. take the um the where all the pine cones are. >> Yeah, the pine cones and then you dip it and you put the sprinkle stuff and it's like cost nothing. >> Well, actually if we put on the tree we have if we make ornaments they can hang it on the the tree.
>> That's so cute. >> And then the tree topples over little kids someone puts it on their That is a good idea. Ornaments. I like that. >> Something to keep them entertained. That's what's going to cause their families.
>> Yes. >> Yeah. I we did a huge event at one of our churches. My wife's really good at this stuff, too. >> And um >> she hired >> Yeah, we did your wallets at home. It was just a free event to people not to think that they have to spend stuff. >> Oh, that's >> And the kids would go and they play
these little games, little tossing games, and then you give candy and then they go to the other spot where they decorate the pine cones and then go to the other spot to draw the cards, give it to Santa, and all different things. And then we would get stuff all donated like the wrist things and stuff.
>> And they would come and they would actually pick two gifts that they would like, oh, how many kids, how many siblings do you have? And they be like, I got two brothers. And they go to the boy table and they picked out two little chachi things. But it made them feel special like they're getting something for their kids, their brothers and
sisters. >> And it worked out phenomenal. >> Except some of the mothers, they'd be like stealing the Oh my god. You stealing Christmas toys from the church? They're the Grinches. >> We used to do that. We used to get
trailers, trailer load >> full of toys >> and we would have to se I was an elf, right? So I had to we had to separate them by age casually and then we would hand Santa underneath
the uh the pavilion. Uh Tom Quinn's dad was Santa and we would hand him the the the toys underneath the the skirt so he couldn't see they couldn't see us and you know while they're talking to Santa we put the toys next to Santa and Santa
you know they tell Santa but we used to give them like you know >> they used to get good toys too. Yeah, they used to give good toys. >> You guys be in the city. Go to like the Walmarts and the Walgreens and the CVS. >> See what type of donations get.
>> Most of it came from Walmart. >> No donation. >> So, just out of curiosity, what why does this event stop exactly? The one you decide not to do it? >> I I don't know. We did it as far back as
uh maybe five, six years ago was the last time we did it. And >> it was always done every year. >> It was done every year. It >> just stopped. >> It was a big thing. >> I thought this was new thinking by really no resurrection. >> We used to do some nice events for
especially at the holiday time and uh the the trailer like the um the the police trailer would be filled with toys. >> That's nice. filled with toys. And I'm not talking about like toys that you just like were laying around like nice toys. >> Yeah. Like brand new in the box.
>> Brand new in a box. Board games, stuffed animals. I never knew where that stuff came from. But and then Walmart would donate like six or eight big bikes so that we can give to the bigger kids because you know those toys are always geared to the you know eight and under but the bigger kids they would be able
to get a bike if they if that's you know but it was always a nice and we would always do hot chocolate and we would do cupcakes and cupcakes and cookies >> and cookies and and and we would the city would do that and we would be we dress up as elves and
>> you know it was it I I I I can't answer your question because I don't know why where it stopped. I don't know if the toys stopped coming or um we used to do the Toys for Tots boxes. The Marines would come drop the boxes off Toys for Tots.
Um we it was always a nice time. I don't I don't know why, >> but I don't know who spirited all that. I don't I don't know who headed all of that up. I would help but that's all that I knew.
>> May the the real person that was organized >> I don't know. Fire I don't know Pipers used to do a lot of it too. They used to get all the >> Yeah. Fire fire was always big on that stuff and um uh Dave Brown, one of our police chiefs
used to be part of that I think too with an organization he was part of I think or something >> right in Fort Richie. Yeah. But maybe fire can help out about, you know, Tom Quinn can probably, you know, give us some more information about that.
>> That would be great if they could do that because then you'd have something to give the kids, you know. >> That's nice. >> Well, it sound like we got lots of good ideas. We just got to kind of get it all organized and first thing is actually get it announced so then we can start working on that.
Um I don't want to get in any other other events right now. Let's focus on the Christmas one and then um get that off the ground and as we get closer to that then we can start talking about the next one which I guess will be the the fishing slash um
it said the note with fishing tournament but it was fishing tournament was part of the seafood >> fest. Seafood >> fest. So, >> okay. >> You want to send a meeting for We said next week. >> You want to do next week?
>> I can do next Thursday. I don't think I can do any other day though. >> Next Thursday. >> Um, we have Let me see the city calendar if there's anything. I'm actually trying to keep next week
somewhat open so I can possibly get away for a couple days, but if we did it um early in the week that would work. >> How about Monday? Is anybody available
Monday? >> I can't do Monday. in the city calendar. I don't see anything at all. >> Anything? >> What do you see? Tuesday. >> Tuesday. >> I don't know. I don't know if I'm I can make it Tuesday.
>> And we we may have something else happen Tuesday as well. Um >> Wednesday. You think we need to have one next week? Can we wait one more week? >> We can wait too. We can wait too so we can have like an idea of how many like
vendors and stuff. It gives us time. >> Why don't we do it the following week? Um we got keep city council meeting on the 28th. >> We could do it that th Thursday the 30th. >> I can on a Thursday. Can we have it at
5:30 instead of at 5? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Is that good with everybody? >> What day? >> Thursday, October 30th. >> It's the day before Halloween. >> Yeah. At 5:30. I may be dressed up.
>> It's the day before. >> Yeah. >> 5 or 5:30. >> 5:30. We're celebrating the whole week. >> So 30th. >> The 5:30. 4:30 at 5:30. Mhm. That works >> that work for you. >> I guess you'll let Ashley know that and
she'll send out a invite. All right. >> Perfect. >> And then we'll figure out. So, we're having December 5th, 6th, and 7. I'll go through my list of vendors and see what's out there. Then I can communicate with TJ as well to see what we have. You can tell me like this person said yes,
so I'll put them on the spreadsheet and stuff. So, we have a list and then we go from there. if um so that would basically give us all of November >> we can make it happen >> and well and if it's going to be that
first week in December I was thinking about getting an advertisement and stuff out >> if we do it October 30th our meeting then we would have to just hit the ground
running on the 30th we going to trying to get sponsors for any of it. >> Well, we have seven grand that we can >> because I think the tent and the table and stuff is like two. >> Yeah. >> And then I want to say
bill was like seven or 800. >> Yeah. >> No. >> And then the portaotties. >> Do we try to get sponsors? Um, >> I would like to see some sponsors like for lights too, like to light up the actual park.
>> We're trying to help businesses, not shake them down, right? Well, I mean >> I mean I was thinking like maybe I know this probably is going to sound ridiculous, but like even if we could use some P, you know, have you ever seen those PVC arches and maybe if we did
like a thousand sponsor and they could put their business name outside one of those lighted PVC arches that the kids can walk through like a tunnel >> type of thing maybe. >> Yeah. >> Who does um I know Den Eden does the poles. They have their street light
poles and then every business whoever I guess participates and I'm assuming they're sponsors, >> they get a poll to light up or do whatever they want decorate. And is it is it Newport Richie that does the Christmas tree used to do the trees, but they had so many people vandalizing they
stopped building. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. >> I was thinking maybe because we could have done the trees along the the the path in the park. >> Yeah. I mean, we can do the trees that just for that holiday and that's it and you got to take your tree out. I mean, it could be
>> you want to bring your tree sponsor as a sponsor tree. >> You have to ask Daryl if there's enough power power there to do that though >> or if it's not lit >> maybe we limit limit like 10 trees, >> put them around the pavilion or something.
>> Yeah, put them around the pavilion because there's all power there. So, >> and just for that day, I mean for that weekend and then they take their tree back. So we don't have any issues with that. >> Or we auction them off >> that too. >> Trees. Yeah. >> They would bring their own
>> bring their own and decorate it. >> And decorate it. >> That's not a bad idea. And then we would put they would have to pay for that like pay to put their tree there, right? >> Well, that would be their sponsorship. I think it's their tree, right?
Their tree. And then they could put their business name up. >> Yeah, that would be cute. We're not making anything, right? No, we would just ask for them to sponsor and start that way and maybe it grows. Not that you're
>> see something here. [Applause] >> I hate to wait till the 30th. >> So, do you want to do it next week? What's going >> the 20th or the 24th? I know next week I can't do the 20th and
I can't do the 24th which obviously Monday and Friday council that week. >> No, no counsel that week. >> There's nothing. I could probably do Tuesday that week. The 21st. >> You said you couldn't do the 21st.
>> Um I'm able to do the 21st. >> I can do the 21st. >> Um >> wait, is that next week? Yes, >> next Tuesday. >> I might be able to do the 21st. It depends on what happens this weekend.
Like I said, we may have something else. We I really probably keep that open for a special meeting. Yeah. No way. Monday 20th. >> I don't know.
I might have to be like with travel. that. >> Could you join remotely if we had >> I might be able to possibly >> I don't know. It It depends on how it's going. >> Is that for sure? Is your still
>> I'll know after tomorrow. >> Why don't we what we tally schedule for the 20th? >> At what time? Maybe at six. I do it at 6. >> 6. >> Yeah. >> Okay.
>> 6 on the 20th. >> And then um if that changes, let me know. And um let's let's pick an alternate. >> Okay. Monday, October 20th at 6 p.m. And then alternate is what day?
>> Um Not enough days and hours in a week. >> Yep. Zoom from home. >> I think we have to be here. I think we have >> So, can you all be on a Zoom?
>> But that's a seated alternate would have to be going to the 30th, I guess. >> Okay, >> we'll just we'll shoot for the 20th. if we can't. Well, I I tell you what, >> depending on this other thing, the 21st
would open up if I don't need that. So, um, so let's go with the 20th right now. You'll know tomorrow. >> Okay. >> Let me know and I'll probably know more tomorrow. >> Okay. >> Everyone, stay tuned on your emails.
>> Yeah. So now we're scheduled for Monday, October 20th at >> 6 p.m. work for you, boss. >> I am always here. >> That's right. >> You got nowhere to go. >> I got no place else to go. >> No wife to go home to
>> you call her though. Sounds like >> shoulder to cry now. Yeah, she's all right. I'll call her. >> Okay. So we'll we'll continue on that. I don't know if you think you can have something over the flyer wise we look at twin and if that's good that's easy for you. You probably got
something I got to change the dates on. >> Not always. No. >> It's either sleep or do a flyer. You could just do a flyer, right? >> Yeah. And and actually seriously whatever flyers we had for car show, whatever. Just take one of those and change the car for Santa Claus and
guess something like that. >> I can I can throw something together. I'm just I just don't know if I'm going to have to work this weekend though or not. So, tenatively I'm I don't know if I'm going to have to go back on Saturday or Sunday. So, >> Okay. That's what you're going to find tomorrow. Okay. Well, let me know. >> Okay.
>> All right. >> Um I think that's enough for future events. We got hands full of Christmas we got to focus on. So, any old business? >> Okay. Move for a motion. >> Motion to second. All in favor signify by saying I. I.
We're out of here. Danger.