--------- [Music] Chairman John Cooper here. Vice Chairwoman Caroline Gonzalez. Let the record show that vice chairwoman Gonzalez is absent from today's meeting. Member Salary here. Member Adam Thompson present. Member
Julie Keenan. Let the record show that member Keenan is absent from today's meeting. Member Kim Leri here. Member Janet Applefield here. Member Debbie Robinson here. Thank you. Okay. I got two sets of minutes. Um I do got a note
on the March 4th set. Yeah. on page our page seven in our packet item number three change golf to golf gf yeah um so I need a motion for the uh
March 4th next I'll make a motion to approve the minutes with the change to okay motion second any further discussion all in favor signify by saying I I oppose motion carries
Uh it was Adam. And then uh then a motion for the March 11th set. Make a motion. Second. Motion to accept. Is that Yes. Okay. And a second. Okay. Any further discussion? Any public comment? Any public comment on the last one?
Okay. Very vote. All in favor signify by saying I. I. I. Opposed. Motion carries. Okay. So, next up is uh Congressman General Public. We have no one in audience, nobody online either, right Ash? No. Okay. So, we'll bring it back
uh to committee business. Item number two, Centennial Events budget discussion. I'll pass it over to illustrious member Thompson. I like that. Illustrous. Yeah. Thanks so much our last meeting. I give you a little kudos. I do appreciate that. Uh so, I
put together with what I got on here. So, I I tried to put on every line in parenthesis what it is in the parentheses is how much it costs. But I'm I know I'm missing some things. So, if uh if you look on here and you uh see that I'm missing something, please give
it to me because I've been trying to get this through just our Black Mountain and some of that place in other it's it's kind of all over the place. So, I just want to make sure I got it all um in there. Um I if we can get a correct number on the number of um shirts we
have left, I can kind of reconcile that and make sure that we have what we sold it matches what we have in here. Also what we gave away to each of the members. Um but right now I mean it looks like progress. Um it looks like we sold about 54 shirts and uh 23 uh
coins. Um how much order of shirts? 100 100. So So lower half. Yeah. Yeah. And if we minus the committee all the way around, maybe some council members, that should be our the only amount that we actually handed out. So there's the
the lady from that's running for county commissioner or whatever that was there the other night. I can't remember her name. I wrote down, but she she was for two shirts. She was supposed to come back and pay for them. She she bought a shirt. And we'll count those, too, just in case. Who was it? Um, I have her name
written down. She's Patrick. Fitzpatrick. Yes. Oh, she she running. I thought she ran for something, she said. Oh. Were there more shirts left than what that got brought out $30 bill? Sorry. Were there more shirts than what
got brought out to the um Johnny Cash concert? Cuz we were almost sold out of all shirts there. So, I I don't know that we have like 50 shirts left. I haven't done a fin a final count. I do have shirts left, but I haven't done a final account. Everything was brought that I had in the office. So, that was
every that was everything. Okay. Well, they're showing 54 sold and if we I mean there's nine of us here and then so we maybe have 25 some left. I was going to say we minus nine. Let's say five for council. Uh that's 14. The two that you
just mentioned. Was I supposed to get an extra one since I was council here? Cuz I bought shirts. I have extra bought two shirts. If you want one, why not? I bought three shirts. If you would like anything that's not problem, we do have
extras like but um that's right. But I will I'll I'll provide Adam final count and everything. Um yeah, we'll reconcile it out and figure out where the be a little more difficult. I mean, I'll try I don't know that we're 100% uh we we tracking that. I mean, I mean, we got a
lot of coins. That's what I'm saying. We had like 500 coins. I don't have an estimated number of how many was actually given out at the mayor's ball. We do have an accurate count of what we sold, but you know then then that counteracts that. Yeah. So about the shirts though, right? We do
have plenty coins left. So yeah, you know, I figured Oh, and the boxes. Yeah. So and I have boxes. So if there was um dignitaries and stuff in your travels or city manager travels that want to hand out coins, we have even the boxes available. So cool. Or we can still always sell them and then we could do
that. Well, two, I need you guys to I know we talked about the Lori Lori Simpson and we I refunded her one and then I think we talked about uh but I don't think we actually said anything about refund because we weren't sure if we were going to let her partner go for free or whoever she went with go for free or if it was half off. I I can't
remember. Was it free? 50% off 50 bucks. So So refund her 50. And then we have uh these food trucks. Uh were they free? Because we do have some that paid. So, I need to I know the easy dog um he wants his money back because he
didn't make he said he didn't make any money. He talked to Veronica. She told him you're that um she would return his money. Yeah. Returning everybody's money that they were we made decisions they
were free for that uh right weekend. So, all right. So, I need How much where's that at? Uh it's far uh right hand. So there's 300 food vendors and then there's a $50 food vendor on there. Oh yeah. Okay. So refund all of them. Oh yeah. Refund. Yeah. Based on our other
decision. And just just make you aware of one. So on Terald Hopkins for the 200 he needs to have 100 refunded to him because he was a $1,000 sponsor for Port Richie.
He probably went online and bought it when I reached out to him to see if he would want to take advantage of that. Was he asking for his money back? Well, no, but he gets it back. They had a free ticket based on our last sitting. So, I'm just throwing that out. You're more than welcome to pay him out of your
pocket if you like. No, I'm good. I'll pay I'll write him a check. All right. So, Adam, also on one thing on the fishing tournament, we only had 13, not 15 entries. Well, I before I refunded Yeah, I refunded the other two, but they were still counted as income until I refunded them. So, I
I'll he actually paid for three entries, so that's why I put it on there. It was only 13. Yeah. Yeah. So, just to be clear, I'm refunding uh Lorie Simpson $50 and then uh Terald Hopkins $100 and
then refunding uh $300 food vendors and the $50 food vendor. Okay. And as as I've mentioned to you, the there should be a Nani um the mayor and F fara Nani N O O R A N I that would
have paid 200 for the mayor's ball. I I have an actual list list that I can give to YouTube and I didn't bring my computer. Well, these are everybody that's on here is what was given to me by the through the uh billing department. So how they would pay. So that's how that's how that's where these
come from. So, I'm going to she's actually going to pull everything from the last three months that and see well, you know, it wasn't didn't go back three months, but three months to make sure I got everybody that actually paid through there and we put it in the right place. Okay. So, and
so where where are we at with is is has everything been paid? Have you did you pay the invoice for the caricature guy? being the checks are coming out today, but I went ahead and took it out of here.
Um, and so we still u So what's outstanding to be paid? What's not on here, which I believe we already wrote the check for um for Spartan Manor, the [Music] $7,5564. So,
um, right now there's about $24 left in there in our actual budgeted amount, but we do have $6,300 into in our, uh, event caps. And then we have $1,000 in what we sold. So, $7,000 is kind of what we got. But again, I don't know exactly what's
still outstanding out there. 7,000 and then plus 7,000 left to be budgeted. What's What's What do we have left? So, there's $7,000 left to be budgeted after everything's in here. 7,000. But I have this $7,55 invoice from Smart Manor has
come out that 7,75 or 78 receives about $24, 30 bucks. Um, so that's going to leave us almost wipe us out of our budget of money down there. But we still have about $7,000 that we collected that
hasn't been u appropriated through our event cash that's selling tickets to things and selling the shirts and stuff which is000. So there's about 7,140 bucks. So as we wrap things up, we should be about 7,000 to the good guy. I
see you'll hone in on that. Yeah. I think we're gonna have another Yeah, I should have that. Actually have as long as everybody gives me what they have. As long as they don't pop up with other uh things, I think we'll be fine. You also said something about some Yes, that's going to bring up next. Did you have anything else you wanted? Uh, no. I
think so. On on remaining budget, um, I'd mentioned before I'd like to get, um, plaques for our sponsors that we would give each one of those and and it can be, um, a little different for level sponsorship. Obviously, we can do things
same thing across the board. We can do something a little nicer for the the higherend sponsors. Then I have no issues with that, but um I I kind of I still want to see his final numbers where he's at, right? Um because you said you took care of the Spartan. Was the um the decorations already
taken? Decorations were taken out. Is there any like major expenses for the Spartan? Now we have the going to be concerned. No, as far as I know, that's everything in there. The DJ's been paid, decorations, um um fireworks. The fireworks have been uh accounted for.
So, I mailed the check out to them and then our other vendors for the two event for the festival and the um Well, the only thing the only thing I have not uh seen I have not seen the $600 for the actual Johnny Cash. Did we Did y'all cut a check that has been cut?
Okay. I didn't see that. I got ordered. What What about for the blowups that Julie ordered? Those are in here for inflatables $1.95. Yep. And those are paid by credit card. Yeah. So they're they're accounted for in our budget. Okay. So the $600 I didn't I
need to get with her about all the checks that she actually wrote. I think I got them all down. I was just missing the You should have the balloon guy. The balloon guy Bill for is covered. And how about the girls? Because you had three check. You had three checks that at the bills.
Oh, the DJ. The Yep. Yep. The DJ the face painter. The DJ for both days was $800 total. The bill forest was $600 and the face paint was seven. Should have been seven.
Were the fancy girls at the Yeah, the two the two girls from pictures. Were they I don't know who had handled that. I have no idea. Who handled that? I don't know who paid them. Who handled the charact that was uh Amanda did the
the character thing. That invoice went to him. That's been taken care of. So, I don't know about piano player was included. Spartan man did that. Spartan man. I don't know if they did the two girls or not. I have no idea. That's what they're talking.
Oh, I think I the photo booth and stuff was included with the DJ for the mayor's ball. Trying to Yeah. So, the 218. Okay. He's paid decorations. Let me see if I can find out on the girls real
quick. Now I haven't seen it. Was the photographer separate from the DJ? Yes. Did we we paid him already? I paid him in cash. I have to That's was the girls the flower angel thingies. Angel. Hey, the um the two the two girls that were
taking pictures in the in the feathers costumes. You know the rain was beautiful angels. The angels. The little angels. That's nice. Because we're meeting we're trying to figure out if they've been paid or
not. You know food Chris? Chris who? Yeah. Okay. All right. Thanks. Bye. That was most of it. So, so supposedly
they've been paying Chris Mayer paid him $500. Oh, okay. I'm not That's what I just heard. Is he asking for that back? I don't know if his donation or what. I said ask him later. I I didn't know that was Chris Mayor. Vice Mayor Mayor. So, what I'll do is I'll get with uh S this
week and we'll sit down go line by line what I got and that way because he kind of knows u most of what was invoiced. Sure. So, I the uh well, like I said, there's gonna be if if Caroline has some outside expenses, I'm sure she's probably sent them to you already. We'll
have to double check with her. I think the only big thing I don't have was the was the Johnny C. I haven't seen the invoice for Johnny Cash Man. She must have it. She has that because she cut the check. So, she and she needed I gave her everything for that. So, those are all done. I mean, you'll just have to verify, but she had the invoice, his W9,
all that was taken care of, right? So for the I guess put 500 down for the girls and obvious there's a receipt. You have to pay that. Um I'm not sure what happened there. But who ordered them? Where do you order it? I have no idea.
At the meeting with Smart Manor at girls. I had to get out. I don't know. I'm having a little party for the minutes. Could you rephrase that whole conversation? What about the girls? Yeah. Um they I don't know what what Angels. The angels. Yes. I can't say
angels. Angels. Angels. So the public knows we had two girls dressed in uh they were show girls. Show girls. Show girls. I don't know if that's even better. I don't fully dressed show girls. I might add. Show girls. Yes. For pictures only. For
pictures only and theme only. Please visit Facebook. You can see pictures of them. a dull moment. What what might have been missed in a meeting now has not been missed. Thanks. As you uh as you uh leave us with that, you take a picture
with your wife. Yes, we're all on record with girls. With the girls. Apparently, there just two women that showed up dressed like that. Yeah. Who knows? Well, Chris did. He paid him 500. I think it's a good price.
Oh lord. Moving right along. Thank you, Vice Mayor. So, I will go ahead. So, getting back to the original ask, I will go I will go ahead and price out plaques. Um, we're going to go now. Um, I have to check the
the status, but I believe Ocean Honda is now converted to a completely different deal. So, they're no longer I think is what their new name is. Yeah. When is that though? It already it's already they didn't change it yet, right? Yeah. They're they're gonna they're gonna change the sign. Okay.
They already started changing staff and things like that, but they they're they're switched over. So, um we could still make something for them. I mean, we I don't know, but I'll look at though all the other ones and just see what it's going to cost. But, um we'll So, are we going to do plaques for all every
single sponsor? I mean, I figure out some kind of something for each one. Again, would make them all the same. I wouldn't do that. I do something a little nicer for the the higher end. You can check with TJ about the ones that he gave out. I like
those ones were nice. A contact for Yeah, the clear plastic ones were nice. You know, wooden one. If you guys are okay with that type of Yeah, I know. We We sent a letter. I know we got some more sponsors after I'd signed. So, if
there's any more letters that I need to do to for some of late comes. Yeah, I'll have to verify what letters I sent out and you know what what what final sponsors I because I know there's a few small ones that donated a few small items. So, we can do that letters as well. Are all of your thank you notes
out? Are all of your thank you notes out? And thank you notes. I mean, you don't letters. Yeah, the majority of them are out. There might have been like a couple sponsors at the very end like um I believe u was it Norton um Walmart
probably came in late. Yeah. Um and Walmart was and it was another one that Wait, Walmart sent us money. Well, they let us use the entire parking lot for that. Put them down as a thing. And who else? Did we not get to thousand dollars from that? Haven't got anything yet. Is
that is that in progress? Uh we're still trying to work out how to we're doing grant had to do some kind of grant application. They were asking for a form that we don't have that we're looking to see how we get. So they they're on the shirts, aren't they?
No, they were on the program. Oh, the program. Okay. Yeah. What what paper are they asking for? They're asking for a u it's a grant request form, right? Yeah. It's a you have to do the whole thing, but they're asking us for a
um I had to ask Pam. She asked for a paper. We don't have um We have one for the 503C something. We have one for the fire for the volunteer firefighters. We don't have one as a city. Well, they committed to that. So, we're we're not a 501c3.
Correct. I mean, that's that's the issue is we're not Yeah. anything that they aren't able to get it because we aren't the right size. We're still we're still hammering it out with them. They wanted that. It's not something we have. Okay. And if we give it to the if we use the
fire it go to the fire department, you know, new bill to use it for this, but we're still hammer hammering out with Okay. I can imagine not being able to give people that don't have 513C's money. Yeah. Strange. Now, anyway, they they did commit to that. So, I'd still
like to make sure we get that. Yeah. I'll I'll follow up with tomorrow about Okay. So, I guess next meeting we'll talk about I I think in the past when the fire department has requested that grant, they did say it's a likely process because they usually use it towards like the holidays, right? You
know, to get like um toys and stuff for uh for the holidays for kids. Um and then they did say that it does take time for that. So, I don't know if we can really count on that for this particular thing or not. But, I mean, um at the very at the very least, we would probably list Walmart as an incind for
the the parking lot usage for the car show. Then so one of the so we're going to have some residual funds left over and I know I mentioned this before and I was going to bring up to council tonight what uh and I I'll just do it now as kind of a good segway into that. So
going forward obviously what do we do from an event perspective a marketing perspective whatever what I'd like to propose to council is that we create a committee that uh where this you know name be but marketing event planning committee um and then I guess my ask
would be are you guys interested in still kind of rolling this committee forward with that or just closing this one out once we finish up and then we'll we'll talk about that going forward and and see who's interested in being part
of that big smiles over there. I think I think Centennial should be closed out only because it's we we have a whole we have a budget for it and it's its own unique budget. So, I think I think it probably be best to close this out completely, see what that residual
is going to be after everything is paid, the plaques, whatever we order, whatever stuff he's got to finalize, and then just make a transfer, you know, to a to a new um a new budget, new committee. That needs to be like established through like this committee was because
it didn't exist before, right? And this this one basically is an ad hoc committee that we created that would terminate with the end of our centennial stuff. But like I said, moving forward since we do have residual, like I said, I would like to see events continue to happen. Um whether we do another ball
every year for charity or something like that. Um maybe we have something in the park with for with kids and dump tank that was popular. I I think there's there's things we can do along those lines to provide events and we can also help funnel some money into the community through
charity. Um, and we can take sponsorships going forward, but we need a committee kind of to to spearhead that plan what those are going to be. I know we talked about doing a car show again yearly, maybe even two, spring and and fall fishing tournament. Same thing. Again, there's there's there's things we
kind of did for the centennial that we could possibly carry forward that were successful and could grow. And so I I'm gonna ask council to look at putting that committee together. Um but obviously that that's that would be a a continual fundraising process for those
events. So what I would suggest again to council is that whatever residual we have from here, we we keep rolling into events and and put those on with that. I mean because we got a somewhat of a head start and you're going to have some marketing and stuff that goes along with those. So again, if we close it out, it
just rolls into the what the general fund I guess. Is that what would happen? Well, like boom on the bayou too. So I mean that would and we do have fourth July coming up too where the city's committed funds that um that we could possibly do something again this council
discussion but as it stands now it would just roll into the general. Correct. So that was part of my conversation I was going to have tonight. what council want to do with whatever residuals left and I'm going to suggest that we we kind of keep keep an entity going to fund yeah to fund events and again it all be
sponsorship based I'd rather do that so anybody opposed to that conversation again I'll ask council and see where we go but obviously this committee will close out um and then once we do if we decide to open up open another committee if it's open to the
outside the city then you all would be able to put in for it and whatnot. So, but what that's kind of my thought process behind as we move forward past the centennial um I still want to continue to have some events. So, great
idea. I think it's very important if we're going to if there's if this if the city is going to continue getting involved in events um and I've mentioned this to you quite a few times and we need documentation to back this up because if there was something that we
were missing um throughout this entire process was direction on you know fees, what to charge, what to do, you know the procedures for people to follow. um you know going forward I think we really need that language set in stone so that
as we're planning these events and if to me it can be a much simpler process if we're bringing on someone like TJ or someone like that to say look we want this event where he'll take on most of it but still follow the guidelines that we set forth to him if he wants uh if he
wants police if he wants garbage control if he wants barricade set up if he wants you know whatever it's going to cost he'll pay that, you know, he'll he'll pay that for the fees that we set and then go ahead and put on the event that way. And then if we still want to have a
um a tent or something like that for something that that committee, that event committee wants to put on, let's focus on that. So then if you have a centennial bottle or we have other coins or whatever product we want to we want to kind of generate more funds for this
committee or that that event committee, that's fine. But thinking uh let's I think we should focus on having these these independent vendors put on these events for us and then we can focus on as long as they follow the guidelines that we set forth to them and and the
fees that they have to pay out of the money that they're going to make putting on these events. Um because I think things like overtime and stuff like that we should be compensated for, you know, to move forward. And you know, if they want, you know, if they want three officers on scene, if they need a fire truck with a with staff just in case of
a medical emergency, that's all well and good, but it should be a wash. One thing should wash out the other. And we shouldn't worry about those costs going forward. and and having those vendors just go ahead and put those things for us will eliminate a lot of a lot of footwork that we had to do throughout
these uh centennial events. So for the car show um so it was the um the garbage that you know the garbage and the barricades and then um the time of the um some of the city people like how much like was that just for that event? Well,
we had three offic we had three police officers. I'd have to calculate what what their going rate was, but I mean they were there the pretty much the entire time. Um I had I had at least two public works staff set up the entire morning with the barricades and the cans. That was about
four hours, you know, three to four hours for the setup. They bought those boxes for the garbage and the bags. But those things moving forward, I think should be included like in a in a in a fee schedule in a fee schedule. So then we can explain to that vendor say look
you'll need these things when you put it on and this is what the costs will be what was it so like what was it like like a round figure round just for that one it would depend on like what the police
officer's salary was I mean if I was to say roughly u you know let's say $90 for the three three officers per hour um so that's 90 I would say they were there for the duration. So that's 90 90 times uh what
was it done? Is it five six hours? Five six hours. So $90 times say six hours. So that's that's for the police officers alone. Public works I would say um $20 an hour for the four hours and then the
um the barricades the barricades were provided. So that was there was no cost to that but of course that was within their setup time. Okay. Um, and then I would say the cardboard box of trash cans was a minimal cost, but I would say those were probably 10 bucks a piece.
There was about a dozen of them set up. Did I come out or that came out? Um, maybe garbage cans. I don't think so. I think public works just had them in. So, obviously the committee going forward would would would the first
thing they would need to do is look at as we provide events those things. And so we work with the city to figure out what that is. And so whether we hire somebody out or that committee actually put them on all up in the air, but there needs to be a committee to to look at that. That'd be their sole focus is
marketing as well as planning for the and whether they actually put the event on themselves or they hired it out like with TJ. Um and then those fee structures, they they they would be experts in what we need to do uh from the city to facilitate those. So that would be the role of the committee to
come up with those things. And obviously council needs to opine on that then we they bring it to us for for adoption. So kind of like does you know where they have the parade every year and they have I'm sorry Newport Richie does with Chas every year and doing
other events within the city. So I think that's a great idea to carry that on with our city as well. Jess can no just that you know the vendor application not just the fee schedule that probably needs to be revised because it's just like for using the park not just
anywhere so that probably needs to Yeah. But that's in process now isn't it revising the vendor application park and vendor agreements. Yeah. Okay. So there's been looked at so and obviously that that can continue to evolve as well. Was a good learning experience. We
learned a lot. Anything else on budget? I'm good. Okay. Next up, I have number three, recap of centennial events. Um, I'll start with that. Obviously, we we put on very successful events from
the from the event perspective. I think there could have been more participation, but um, you know, it's always the fear that you have huge participation and you have substandard events. I think we had the opposite. We had stellar events and it just we didn't we lack participation. So, I'd much
rather um have seen that than the other. So, I I want to commend each one of you on the committee for, you know, we we had a lot under our plate to to pull off and I think we did a stellar job of of getting events together um in a short time frame and pulling them off successful as they were. Um everybody
that did attend the events had all positive things to say. So, it was uh I think we did did an outstanding job. It's a shame, like I said, um, people didn't participate like we'd hoped and I don't know if that was a failure of people knowing about it or the
environment that we're in now with with the flood that came through and some people not I mean, probably a plethora of things that that uh that led to that. But, you know, it was our 100 year anniversary and I think we we uh we did it justice. So, any comments? Yeah, I
would like to say I mean every event that we've put on from opening day till the centennial firework event um you know like I said same I you know I repeat the same thing you said all the events were put on well um everyone did a great job um you know the fishing
tournament had a you know had a positive turnout um everything worked well no you know the most important thing is um you know no one got hurt no one got injured everyone had a great time um even with the tour bus uh everyone uh for history and heritage day for the people that
were here. They enjoyed, you know, enjoyed the tour. They enjoyed the way council was set up. Um as we got closer, you know, mayor's wall, same thing. I mean, I heard no negativity about the the the setup, the food, you know, everything that was provided, you know,
the the photo booth was very popular. Um the DJ entertained everyone, you know, up until the very end. So, I think everything worked out really well. Um, everyone did a really really hard uh put in a lot of hard work um you know in this committee. Um everyone did um and
I'm very happy that everyone did and we did a great job. So um like I said there are things that I would like to to modify in the future you know to maybe like make it more more user friendly for us you know for as a committee not more hands-on. Um
I think that seeking vendors and and looking into that route for future events would you know would work out the best. Um the uh some some other things to think about um I'm doing a post action report with the fire department,
police, public works. Um trying to decipher what we could use in the future for other events at that park. Um we're thinking of sign boards. We're thinking of different modes of transportation. We're thinking of more signage to point out where parking was. um for the event.
Um I I think going forward we need to think about if we're going to build on this probably modifying uh the pavilion to hold more sound. Um you know or creating maybe something else that we're allowed to have at the park, you know,
build something new. Um I think those should be considered. But overall, I I think everything was, you know, turned out really positive and everyone had a really good time. Any else? Yes. Um, so I I have two things. One is I don't
know if you've done this in the past for other things like this, but maybe we can do some type of written evaluation of the whole process so that um maybe an email or something to say, hey, what do you think we should do about this or
that? Um, do this instead or that. similar to what S just said, but maybe have it in writing, kind of like an evaluation of the committee. So, if you're going to have a future committee, like S said, let's not make the same kind of mistakes or let's try to make
things better. Like lessons learned session where we cut capture. Exactly. Um the second thing is, um so I live in Clearwater. So the city of Clearwater had their centennial in 2015. They put this whole book together. Granted, the
city is much bigger than ours and much has more money. I'm gonna pass this around. It's it's an incredible book. I'm not insinuating that we do something like that, but what I would like to do is take pictures from every single event
and similar to what we took out of the other time capsule is maybe make a photo album of all of the events um and put include that in the time capsule. So, we won't have a book like that, but we will have something that represents um or is
something in the glass case is a representation of all of the events um that we held for the centennial, which I think would be interesting. We could put something in the glass case, too. I just propose
that we have pictures for every single event, I believe. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So this this book you pass around I guess is do it shows some looks like some older pictures in there and as well as the uh things that they did for their centennial. It's kind of a
now too this is what it was then and then here we are now similar to like what happened here is I'm a resident of Clear Water and did not know of one single event that they put on. Um, when was their 100 year? Uh, 2015.
They all the only event that I know is they put up if you if you're going over the Courtney Campbell Causeway um there's a new poll there that says 2015 and 1915, but um that's the only thing I
don't know of any events that they did. So, but I would like to include a photo album to show all of the all of the events that we did do. I think that would be cool. Well, are you thinking more if we could put something together from a digital perspective that we would have out there? Um, well, that too, but
I mean, you could actually have it on the website that people go out and click through it. Well, that too, but I thought this would be good for the time capsule is what I was thinking. Like photo album. The cut off for time capsule tomorrow. the cut up the cut off of the time capsule was extended to tomorrow which I was going to bring up
you know in old business um and then it will be it will be placed in the ground by the by Friday um we extended it because I'm still waiting several council packets that need to be in the time capsule um and I know I have most of the committee here um Adam I didn't
know if you wanted to include a letter or something like that for the time capsule um you know so but um that that was the timeline on that but I I fully think that regardless, even if we don't get this done, you know, put this in the ground in a couple days, doing doing
something like that will be fine because I'll I'll put them in the I'll put it I'll put one of the books in the case. The historical, you know, historical committee will have a book no matter what. It doesn't necessarily need to go inside the capsule for us to have it for forever. Right. I have I have been building the website, the section on the
centennial celebration. I have to continue that when I have time to compile all the pictures that I've seen on Facebook from different different sources, all the pictures that were done from our photographer. I've been doing slideshows for our earlier events. Um
I'm I actually I still have the bowling uh the bowling tournament to do. I have those pictures. I have I have access to all the pictures, but they're like in random sources. I'm trying to compile them all into the website as slideshows. You can I can do a slideshow on the website. I can add as many pictures as I want. So, there will be a digital
reference for the centennial when it's all up and done. Um, I'm hoping to uh get working on that very soon and continue that now that everything is over, we can move forward. Um, presentation was the PowerPoint was on the mayor's. Yeah, I need that so I
can add that to that particular event. Um, but the uh I think I think if we contact someone who did that particular book, you know, they'll probably just ask us for all the source material and between them and the historical society and the the uh the source material that
they have, we can give them as many pictures as they need to do to do our own book. So, I don't I don't think that that'll be a problem, but we'd have to price that out and see if we have enough residual to do to do that if the committee wants to move forward with something like that. I'm in I'm in hard copies of pictures,
you know, like make a photo album book like what we found there. Well, so let me let me talk about that for a minute. So obviously times have changed obviously and so you know that was kind of cool because those pictures that were in there probably aren't out there in
digital form anywhere. It's some you know that's the way things work, right? So as as technology has changed, I mean whatever we produced from this event, all the pictures and that will virtually live on forever. It doesn't need to be in the ground, right? It can actually be
stored out there in perpetuity. And so people 100 years from now should be able to go back and and and pull up those those archives digitally and and look at those. Um let's just say, for example, we put it on a CD or USB. 100 years from now, those might be those might be beta,
you know, VCR tapes, right? you know, cassette tapes or eight track tapes is you don't know what techn is going to have in the future, but those being that they're digitized out there, the media is is less important. So, I don't know we need to have something in the ground
that they would pull out. Um, obviously since times have changed, people are always going to be able to go back, hey, what happened 50 years ago in the city and it's at their fingertips, right? So I think from a perspective from the the um putting something in the in in the in the ground for the time capsule
obviously a letter um you know if you want to include a picture of the committee or whatever we get together and do that obviously but do we have one I think everybody was at the mayor's ball we I think we took one picture of most of the committee we could maybe print that off and put that in there or
whatever. Um, but uh, you know, some of the stuff that we put in there, I would focus on nondigital type stuff that uh, that might be cool when they pull that out later on to look at and not worry so much about what was put in before because if you go further back
it was all newspapers, right? For the 25 years is all newspapers, right? Or 50 years, I think it was. And then the 75th there was some more stuff in there with some pictures and letters and whatnot. But as time capsules in the new age happen, I think you see less and less of
that kind of thing. So, well, yeah, just is readily available. I think if we set up like um you know, just like we had the TVs out front, if we put a you know, put a digital frame or some sort of smaller TV in there in the cabinet out front that had all the pictures just
running on a continuous loop. A digital picture frame. Yeah, something like that. just showing all the pictures, you know, and then have um other items, you know, like the bowling metal, the coins, you know, placed in that cabinet, make a, you know, a centennial section. That's that's something that everyone
will see as they come to city hall. That's great. And then, like I said, as the website is finished, the section on the website, they'll always have that to go to. So, you know, sounds great. Yeah. Anything else on
recap? Uh, one more thing that I'll mention, just a comment I got. So, obviously Mike Moore and his wife were at the mayor's ball and obviously they he was a county commissioner. He's lobbyist. They go to all kinds of functions, but his wife told me and my wife afterwards is that all the all the
events that she's been to that ours was one of the best, if not the best event, they they went to. So, that was a really positive comment coming from them, like I said, because they nice they go to a lot of those things. So, um that's really positive. Very nice.
Okay. Have an update on the um the run. Um yeah, business the run. So, item number four, I covered old business. Item number four, discussion on setting a final centum in August. So, what would
be a good um huh? What do you want to wait that long? Yeah. Why is it August? Is that uh I push it out till August to allow me, Adam, and Veronica to finish solidifying
minutes, finances, all the vendor stuff. Um just a little extra time in between everything else. I I you don't have to push until August. I was just thinking on a like at a quarter. Yeah. What if um it is a a little bit long obviously if
we did all of June with nothing going on and maybe we did it mid July? I'm fine with that. We could do the Are you comfortable finalized by mid July? Can
we preferably do it non council on the off weekend or off? Depending on how long it would take, it's up to you guys. If you expect it to be a really long meeting, we can keep it like we've been and just do it on a council meeting night. Well, so July 15th is right in
the middle of that Tuesday and it's not council night. True. So, we did the 15th. That work? As long as you're I'll I'll make sure I'll make sure my stuff's I know Adam's trying to finish up finances and then Veronica is still
getting stuff back from the vendors. And that's if you get close to that, you realize that you need more time. Well, you can always push it. The vendor amounts what they made, that's more or less for SCT. That's not really going to affect us. Veronica wanted to provide. No, no, I know that she'll she'll provide the numbers of what they made,
but that's not as, you know, I'm more I'm more concerned about final, you know, him having enough time to Yeah. you know, see where we stand. So, um Yeah. Okay. Good. I'm okay with the 15th. Okay. Objection to the 15th of
July for uh next meeting to kind of close everything out. Okay. Okay. Still four o'clock. Yeah. So, do you have someone who takes care of July 4th here then? Obviously, you've done that in the past. You're
talking about for the July 4th. So, because obviously then you don't need I need to probably talk to council tonight on that if we're going to do anything or not. Um the the thought was originally is that since we're spinning fireworks for the centennial, we weren't going to turn around do them in July. I think I I
either dreamt this, I thought about it, I vocalized. I can't remember, but uh I thought we could probably do something that weekend, whether it be a picnic in the park or something or some some commemorative thing that wouldn't have fireworks, but um I'll talk to council,
see what they want to do on that. Well, obviously then your events committee should do that, but we're going to not meeting until July 15th. Yeah, it it take some time with if it if say they wanted to move forward on that, which I anticipate they probably would. Um we
we'd have a resolution drawn up probably that'd be on next meeting. So it'll be a little time to get that in place and then we'd have to obviously get people. So um we'd miss July 4th, but the city normally puts that on. So it's just a matter of what we're going to do. So you
got to wing it. Yeah. So we'll see what happens. Okay. We'll see what they what they what they think. But I I I think we should do something. Not full-fledged fireworks like we did, but um something and we'll we'll we'll plan it bigger as we talk
council. Well, we're going to have to decide. You know, like I said, we weren't planning on this um to do July, you know, to July and um staff is staff in city hall is closed on
July 4th, which is the Friday. So, we'd have to decide when and if we were doing something. Yeah, I knew Newport I think I saw stuff they're doing Arizona 28th or something that weekend before. So, you know, we do you know is it uh
are there fireworks visible from our park on No, no. Newport. Newport Richie fireworks. I I've never viewed No one's ever told me like, "Hey, I viewed Newports from Yeah. I don't know if you can see them from there or not." They usually do them at Sims Park. Yeah, Sims
Park. I say if we can see them from our park, they, you know, we could have something down there and a watch party from there. But again, people probably going to go down there to watch it. So, I wouldn't do something on the same weekend. My preference. So, we'll figure it out. I'll bring it
tonight. Anything else on that? Do we agree by consensus for this? Yeah. 15. Thank you. At four o'clock. Okay. Moving on to old business. Um I'll start with update on the the rum. So I don't have a update
from Point Distillery. Other than that they had submitted that last label change to uh to get it approved. Um, one of the things I need to bring up council tonight is um because we're not going to take any proceeds. I'm going to make suggestion
that we any proceeds that come out of that would go to the um would go to a substance abuse nonprofit to fight alcoholism and substance abuse. So that and then um so I'm going to approach that later on this evening. Um, and then
one part of that is we'd need to, which we lack now as far as our ability to donate to uh charities, is a is a process. So, probably need to talk about getting a process in place and then we would do that. But as far as the the actual product, it's still in the
making. We did have I think 57 people sign up for interest. Yeah. Lot of interest. Um, so and obviously that first 100 bottles. Um, they're working on on that. And so the next thing we need to do on that which probably ought to talk about that now so far as setting
a price on that. Um does anybody have any thoughts on that? I I when I told people it was kind of thing we wouldn't be any more than $50 a bottle for that. I thought that's probably charging charging. So it after
all the tax and stuff again it's subject to change but um so their cost was about four $4 and some change and then with all the taxes on top of it probably around 750 a bottle is what it so liquor
in it with liquor in it. Yeah. So um I said again there's variable there because I think you have a the distributor may take a percentage of that or something. But I don't know if that was factored in, but let's just say somewhere around $8 a bottle or
whatever. So two label too. Well, so that's that cost is included in the pre-in label was I think it's 50 cents a label or something they had in their original thing. That was at 450 a bottle. So it cost probably around $8 a bottle give or take. Um and so whatever
we charge on top of that, Spartan Manor is not going to take any thing. They're just going to be the the point of sale. Um and we could take orders at the city. they would fulfill it basically. Um so they would basically take that money in and then it would need to be donated somewhere and that's what we need to
talk about later and but obviously whatever price we're going to set for the bottle that would you know if you round up to 10 so if you charge $50 a bottle it's $40 per bottle goes to some charity. Do I get royalties on the label?
Maybe you get to take the you get to take the first shot. Just kidding. How's it second that? But uh anyway, so we had like 57 people interested now. Probably most of those abide more than one bottle, too. So I
think we we pretty much covered the 1007 and I think once we put it out there, you'd have more people do that. Are we able to get more if they if I know you wanted to do just the limited of the hundred, but are we able to get more? that's not like the limited limited.
Yeah. So, my my original thought was is that once we once we do this 100, I would like to keep the product around um and take off the limited and just be Centennial rum and that it would be available and again a portion of that would I mean obviously be sold local
liquor stores. They'd have it in the bars. It'd be kind of a cool thing. You make a portie signature drink out of it. It' be Port Richie Paradise Punch or something made with that centennial rum. But anyway, something something cool and then a proceed the proceeds from the a
certain portion of the proceeds obviously the liquor stores and all the people in the chain would would make their their markup or whatever but whatever we'd set in there would be a a contractual thing that it would go back to charity to support you know alcohol abuse substance
but going forward I don't think I'm not saying that would be the price on that and even that even if that becomes a reality again that's something we got to talk about council to see what point distilleries because it again they did this at their cost. So their cost they'd make money on it going forward as well. But we we'd work out all those details
if council wants to do that. Um and it'd be something that we could have in the city going forward. And again we could support those uh those entities to help fight alcohol abuse and those abuse. My thoughts. Yeah.
So, I think for the limited bottle, they should be either 40 or 50 because it's got a limited run. Um, I think they'll all go no matter what. I think 50 because it's an even number. Yeah. I mean, I think after that if we end up
doing more then we can drop the price of it because it's it or increase whatever. Yeah. No dro. Well, depending on how much it is. Yeah. How much is our price going to be? 80 bucks
for us. Yeah. For charity. I'd like to make a motion that um you propose to council that um we charge $50 a bottle and that um proceeds over and above whatever our cost is going to be
um goes to a charity of alcohol abuse that to be determined later. Okay. Is there a second on that? Also, okay, that's motion second. Any further discussion? Any public comment? See, I put the vote. All in favor signify
saying I. I. Opposed. Okay. Motion carries. There might be some you can report back to us in July then. Yeah. So, I want to make sure we get that. So, as that develops or whatever, um, we'll at least have that in place once and then we can advertise it
as well, right? Yeah, I was going to say, what's the status of your sign? The sign. Oh, this the rebranding the park, right? Um looks I know we got the wayf finding stuff that closed and I don't know if he's going to try to couple it with that rebranding the park. We are doing a we
we're getting a contract prepared from them for KMA to move forward with that. Um I mean that's that's something we'll definitely you know if that's the council already wished to do that. So that will be in that discussion about as one of the sign changes we want the sign
rebranded. Yeah. So, one thing I want to try to do on that obviously is make weren't able to do it on Centennial, but before this year's out, we have to have that if we if we want to um if if Kim's willing to help with
that, we can come up with a sign concept for just a banner put over the the existing waterfront park signs and say, you know, coming soon or just just have what what it may look like. Will we do that or we just just or just wait and
just actually do it? Well, because the plan may take a while. I don't know when the plan will be finished and then we have to execute the plan, get funding for that to go forward that. So, I'm just trying to find I'm just trying to find a temporary solution so at least people will see and it's done by this year. I can do a few mockups and then
you guys can take a look at them if you want and then then at least we can like I said, we'll have the banners over the the existing signs that it's coming and then Yeah. And actually might be a question for you. With residual money that we have in the budget, that could go towards this rebranding of the sign
too. So let's have $67,000 there towards the sign. And your event what are we calling it grand opening there? Centennial Waterfront Park or what is what is the name going to be? Is it Centennial Waterfront, right? Um waterfront or Centennial Waterfront. One
of the two. Which what sounds better? I'll play with I can play with it. Price Centennial Waterfront Park. Adams Park sounds wonderful. Never happened. Quick answer. I thought it was just going to be Centennial Park. Centennial
Park. It could be just that, but again, I don't know what if there's any sign of waterfront park. I mean, it's it's known by Waterfront Park, right? Yeah. So I can play with it. Come up with Do they have a design yet for the way
finding and branding yet? Nothing. Okay, I'll figure something out. Give me some mockups. I have another um so at our meeting in July, can we you and I had talked about this um earlier
about uh inviting the sponsors and also the five uh representatives from the charities to come at our final meeting there in July to present the um whatever we're going to make for them and also present them the checks. Yeah. So, let
me give you the update on that. So, we had $1,280. Um, yes. Okay. There was 175 that went through the credit card on the mayor night, which I think after fees like 168
or something like that. Um, so this just under $1,500. We've got five charities that were identified um which is $300 a piece. Again, I think um so the city is not distributing that
money. It's going through uh a nonprof which is McDonald School of Business. He's going to distribute the money that way to those five charities and I think he's going to do 10% towards his for doing that. So you're going to somewhere between 250 and 300 per
charity. So I mentioned to Ron, do we want to have some kind of presentation or whatever? And he seemed to think that since it's just a small amount for each one, it probably wouldn't get necessarily good idea to do that just because it's such a small amount. We can definitely do that in a conglomerate.
It's it's it's red large $1,500, but um you know 250 3000 a piece is it I would like to see if we could get somebody to match that for us. Well, for them, it's an option, too, just to see can somebody match that 1 1500 and then we can give
them at least 500 a piece. How uh how do we put that out there? I need I need a thought process on that. Let me think about that. But it would be it would be nice if we could get some sure some other businesses to match that. And I can like I said, I can tell
Ron is to hold it. We're going to have a campaign a match campaign. Um I think it's a great idea. And if we list the five charities and then um we match as a whole or match individuals or match match as a whole.
Yeah. Okay. Even if we got two more businesses to do a 1500. Yeah. That still would give them a good a good little000 from Walmart. Um logistically on that since we're kind
of a lot of moving parts in that donation process um city would do the matching campaign and the same thing it' be funneled through the school business I guess or how does how does the tax collector's
office do their charity or do they create a 501c3 because Mike Fisano's office does a charity of the month that they actually give money too. They They probably got a separate entity, I guess.
I think I I'd have to look. I think I looked it up once before, but I don't remember what it's I It's like tax collector charities, and we can we can do it. The problem is is we need to put a process in place that uh for example, we we animal rescue over here, right?
Well, we would need to open up. Hey, we're we're think about donating this money to charity. if you're interested in being a don of that and then we have vetting process and we would select right that we don't have so it's very difficult for just say hey we're going
to do five charities um because we don't have that process I think it's something we probably and that's on my notes for tonight as well is to um to look at creating something like that but that's why because we selected those five in order to keep us out of
any issues because some chair say well you guys didn't consider me Right. So it is called Pasco TC Gives Inc. and they are 501c3. Yeah. So they probably create
that separate thing just to to do that. But they've given $40,000 to the school board, $22,000 to the Humane Society. Um that's just a few. Uh one community now they've given money to Cindy's Pets Special Olympics.
They I imagine they probably got a board that uh that goes through and yeah, similar type thing that decides what groups to send it to. But maybe they could be some guidance as far as, you know, they have a person's contact name on here as far as maybe the city doing
something. Yeah. Well, I said one one of the things I was going to bring up is what we need to do to to look at doing that future because obviously with the with the the alcohol bottle that we've we talked about, we need to do something. So, we need to have something in place to to handle that and any future stuff we do um whether it's a at
a charitable ball um going forward that we have uh the ability to donate to charity. So, maybe if we can get that done, Kim, by um our meeting in July, we can invite those people and the sponsors to come
and um present all those at that time. Unless you want to do it at a separate time or a council meeting. Yeah. So, let's I ask about the the matching thing. That's what I'm saying. Tonight, Nancy will be here and she can give us
some some guidance on that and then we can look at putting something together to try to match that before we give it out. That's what I'm saying. And then we can present it maybe because we're not committed to these charities. I do. I even know we're sending the money. Runaways knows, but I don't know if anybody else knows. I told Bill, okay,
just if you if you talk to them, let them know that we're looking at trying to get that doubled through a match thing. So, that's the reason we're going to kind of hold off to try to beef it up. Okay. Sure, they'll be happy. uh if we're going to try and have these plaques ready, if we're not going to meet between now and then,
um do I have the committee's blessing to go ahead and just order these plaques according to the size, you know, the the the sponsorship and work our way down and they'll be different. Just have them email just email them to us just
to look at them. Well, do that. No. Yeah. Do do you need to Michael manage the plaques? Not at all. I just wanted to see him. But if go sells just you know I'd have to get that ball rolling as soon as possible because
that's going to be quite a bit. Yeah. I don't want to wait. So yeah, I don't want to wait on that. I just want to make sure I have enough time to get them ordered and you know I I'll keep you know I'll email regardless and keep everyone in the loop. But it's basically you know thank you for your sponsorship. you know, city of port chiefs and the
level the sponsor you were presenting sponsor whatever. Yeah. Their level and then the logo on that on that type of plaque. What was what was that? The glass etching and I'll get a hold of TJ and find out who his distributor is and go from there. But
this is nice, right? So, yeah. And we like I said we like I said you have that where it actually sits in a trophy case or whatever for the bigger sponsors and then as you get down to lower sponsors just a plaque to hang on the wall something commissioner with the size of a donation. Mhm. Okay.
Is there any objection to the sales before that? No. Okay. All right. He'll do good. Thanks. Appreciate it. Or we'll fry him in in July. So what do you mean that's what you ordered? Anything else business?
If anyone has not given me a packet for the time capsule, uh, I need that packet soon for the time capsule. So, I I have my items. I just got to type my list. He's ignoring you. Council members need to put items in the
time capsule. I'd be happy to open up public comment if you like. Huh? Bob did not exist. That's Councilman who? No, don't feel bad, Bob. I'm right there
with you. So, but I I'll have mine ready. Actually, Councilwoman Burke and um and Vice Mayor Mayor is also in the same boat. So, I only have one packet that the council members should be at
least all of them and should be in time caps. I'll bring you a few items. Yeah, maybe maybe council should take this up and we should extend the time frame, I suppose during your meeting. Yeah, we'll get her done. We'll get her done. Okay. Anything else? What is your
time for the time capsule on Friday? Well, and that's I'm not really advertising the time to bury it because we're currently saying that it's May 18th, which has already come and gone. I'm trying to to I'm trying to keep that under wraps. So 50, you know, 50 or 100 years from now, they, you know, don't
realize that we buried it later. So you said it's going to be on the 30th. So I know the plaque says the 18th and the cap says the 18th. Well, or they they won't care. So either way, it's not that you know, I don't think two weeks is gonna Yeah. No, I mean, if
we want to come and watch, I mean, do you have do you have the time? No, I haven't time yet. I got to coordinate with public works. Okay. I'll I'll let I'll let you know in the morning. I'll find out what time they can do that. Any else business?
Okay. With that, I'll go to comments with chair committee members. I'll start uh with member Robinson. I just I just want to thank everybody. I really enjoyed working on this committee. I think everybody worked hard. I enjoy
the I just want to thank everybody. I enjoyed working on this committee and um I think everybody worked really hard and I think everything for the first time really came out great. So I want to thank everybody and and we appreciate our hard work. We appreciate you being involved. Like I said, you guys were in
the city and we opened up and you guys jumped in there. So that's great. And you should considering a uh a sales future. So you can you can move some product. So okay, this is true.
Uh have food. Uh I echo my sister's sentiments and gladuh we were able to participate kind of keep the family legacy going. Y thank you. Thank you. Member Lair, number one, same thing. Just thank you to everybody and thank you to city staff for all their hard
work, too. Absolutely. Member Thompson. Oh, well, a little disappointed I wasn't made vice chair, but I uh I digress. I didn't know you was in the running, were you? No, nobody even volunteered. Uh and there's a reason why.
I appreciate everybody's hard work. I know. I just Everybody did a good job. Thanks. And you did too, Adam. And if I could make a motion, I would make a motion that you would be honorary vice chair, but I can't do that. Honorary honorary
vice chair. member Larry too. Um I think everyone uh from staff, committee members, um vendors, everyone did a great job. Um the fireworks is probably the best uh show that we've had in a very long time. This really set a
precedence for the first time in the city. It was the most events that the city has ever put on in in a year, you know, within a year's time. So that was it was a great undertaking. Um it all went well. Um and we'll see what the future holds. Y um I should I echo all
those sentiments as well. The uh you know we we had a daunting task in front of us. Um we we probably bit off a little more than we could chew given the time frame because we wanted to have a 100 day of events and uh but um and you know this this committee probably should
have been active a year before we were. Um but anyway, we got it done. Um, I I was proud to be part of it, honored to be a part of it and uh, you know, thanks to all your hard work. You guys did a great job. Uh, couldn't it without you and the collective and we really we
really pulled it off with uh, with really little little help. So, um, so kudos to you all and like I said that, uh, I won't be around for the next 100 years, but uh, I would say that they've got big shoe to fill when they do take
on. So, I'll be here probably. the weekend of Bernie's with you. So that look for a motion. Make a motion to adjurnn. Second. [Music] Part: 2
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to invite Phoenix. So, Father God, we come to you. We just ask for wisdom for this meeting for the city. We thank you that we come to you and you will give us the knowledge and wisdom we need to be able to to discuss
and vote on the things that are good for the city and for the residents and the businesses and redevelopment and new development in every area. I I want to thank you for Matt and for his service and his leadership that he's brought here. And I want to thank you for the
new uh city manager that we have and that he would have wisdom in the same way we work together as a team knowing the needs of the city and the people. I thank you for the police and the fire department and parks and recreation and public works and and all the council and
our lawyer and and the businesses and the people here. So we continue to to lift this stuff up in the name of Jesus. We thank you that we are going to be discussing all these 13 things for the city. And so we do want to say pledge
allegiance to the flag and and we will do that and honor God and what our country was founded on which is freedom and liberty and justice for all in Jesus name. Amen. To the flag of the United States of
America, to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Mayor John Cooper, please. Mayor John Eric Cooper here. Vice Mayor Chris Mayer here.
Councilman David Mueller here. Councilman Robert Huard here. Councilwoman Lisa Burke here. City Attorney Nancy Meyer here. City Manager Matthew Copper. Thank you. Um first up we have uh proclamations and I'm going to take that uh that section real quick
to have a little impromptu surprise which I know you enjoy, Matt. But, um, before I do that, the, um, last, uh, week, I guess it was, we, uh, we hired Andrew Butterfield as a interim city manager. Um, it it got back to me that,
uh, there was, uh, made some confusion on the public's part because when they joined the meeting, they just saw the public meeting and they didn't know what happened beforehand. So, I just want to let people know that we actually went through a series of interviews before the public meeting. Um, each one of the council members met with the candidates,
um, asked questions. uh those 15 20 minutes a piece and then we reconvened later that afternoon and made the selection. So it was it was there's much more process on the front end of that uh than what the public saw. So just to to clarify that um and that being said, so obviously this is uh Andrew's first
meeting. Welcome and um glad to have you. And this is uh uh Mr. Copper's last meeting and so I wanted to make sure that we sent him something uh with him to reme remember us by um and it's not a check. So, but I know you didn't want to leave
here empty-handed. There goes Sean. And uh and we wanted to give you something more than just a headache. So, if you could come forward [Music] Did you get a picture? [Music]
So, as most of you know, Matt's been with us uh for a very short time, but very uh very important time. He was uh he came here, had his hands full. Um he really uh I mean just outperformed us for us here at the city just in uh in many ways. Even went through two
hurricanes uh one of which was a flooding that we've never seen before. And what's that? Yeah. Not not his fault, but uh but he he did a fantastic job for us. I can't imagine um uh going forward without him, but uh we wish him the best. And we've got this plaque for
him. It says, "Thank you, Matthew W. Copler for your service, city manager to the Richie, November 13th, 2023 to May 30th, 2025. We do appreciate all you've done for the city and we wish you well in your in your next endeavor. Thank you. Round of applause.
[Applause] Thank you, Matt. [Music] You can box it up with the rest of your stuff. [Music] Storage for a couple days. Yeah. Okay.
Next up, comments from the general public. I do have two signed up. Starting with Danny Fields. Welcome. Danny Fields 81. 14 little kid. So again, I just want to thank everybody for their service. I I appreciate Matt and all he's done. You
know, he's been a blessing to me and to the community and to the city and to all the people here. So I I I I'm that guy. I'm going to say we love you and and we know we could call you and and and always look forward to continue to stay
in contact with you uh through uh the family that this is what this is. And so I I welcome our new uh city manager as well and get to know him and and partner with him and together. Uh he'll he'll understand that
uh there's a lot that goes on here and we're growing as a small community and we're about uh family and about growth and about hearing the hearts of uh the people and then you have to make decisions together as a team to manage
it. So, thank you for your uh leadership and we look forward to being with you. And uh also for uh the birthday man here. Uh I think he's 26 years old. I ain't for sure how old he is, but he don't look that
old. Happy birthday to you and and many many more and blessings in Jesus name for a long life. And thank you for your service as well. I appreciate you. And uh we do got something coming up. uh that I'm a part of with somebody cares
and the local churches and businesses around. And now that event's going to be in Clear Water. We're working with other mayors as I said as here as a faith-based church and uh communities working together, you know, working not only for the city but for the county as
well as uh Florida. And uh so it's called Faith and Family Month presented. And so we're going to have that going on on June 8th at Coachman Park in downtown Clearwater at 4:30 to 8 a.m. And there's
going to be same thing. They're going to be uh just celebrating the community uh the faith and and the community and the mayor and the the city there and just put on an event. Uh it will be a big event because they brought in some well
you know named uh worship leaders that are out there on Joy FM and that you know put on big concerts and there's going to be food fun and games. So you're welcome to come to that. I do have a flyer you could go to the website uh and it's called
uh fdfm.com and uh and so it's it's a great event. It's it's a good time for us to learn with other cities and and other mayors as well. But the options is your guys. So I just want to thank you again
that for the whole month locally as well as abroad. Uh this is going on all over the United States as well. What we want to do is want to recognize family and bring values and and make the
family strong, a place where we live and work and love and and celebrate. And then when we have disasters and storms that we come together helping the city manager, helping the residents uh volunteer like we've seen it did. We had
uh people churches step up, you know, we had uh all hands and hearts. Uh we even use light of the world for they could stay at and work out to help with clean up and stuff like that and food distribution going out from churches and
local areas. See, and that's that's the community partnering with the city and for the well-being of all of us. So, I just want to thank you again for the opportunity to get to to talk to you and
to hear your hearts and your minds and come together. I'm I'm so grateful for the the car show, great feedback for the mayor's ball. That was great event and then the parade. So, just thank you again for reaching out to community and
just and the fireworks. Oh my good, that was awesome. Keep up the good work. Thank you. Bless you. Website again, Danny. Uh, now what was that website for the FA? Yeah, it's going to be Fan DFM.com.
FanDfm.com. Yes. You're welcome. Uh, next up I got Jerry Griffin. Welcome. I'm Jerry Griffin, 7638 Dedra Circle. So, to stay on topic, Mr. Cpplers, last night,
um, uh, when you first came here, there was enough money in the budget for one road is what the council was saying. And in the time you've been here, we've seen many new roads, new street lights, um,
drainage ditches being cleaned out. Uh, I'm just things I'm noticing. I mean, that's not all on you. I'm sure the council had a lot to do with it, but it's uh we just want to thank you for being here, for your service, and say it's a it's uh you're leaving this city
in a better place than it was when you got here. Okay. Thank you, Jerry. That's all signs I have. I show hands. Anybody else I speak? Okay. Same amount to bring back. Uh next up is comments from the city manager. I'll pass it to
Mr. Copa. Oh, go back and approve this. swearing in minutes. Oh, let's get right with that. Sorry about that. Um, so I got a set of minutes. April 22nd, 2025. Look for a motion. Motion to approve.
Okay. Is there a second? Anybody? Second. Okay. Motion second. Any further discussion? All in favor signify by saying I opposed. Motion carries. Thanks to 8 point. So, next up is comments from the city manager. I pass Mr. couple comments. I have a few
things for tonight. Uh first off, thank you. Um and uh item number one, uh you might recall almost 60 days ago, uh council approved the uh uh extension of the building permit fee waiver for
hurricane damage repair. Um that time is almost up again and uh I think actually it's June 9th. uh if you want to extend that further, you'll need to do a new resolution um which we probably need some direction
on tonight. So, uh the city attorney can get that written up. Um on top of that, I think the other kind of issue that's hanging out there that there was a brief conversation the last time we had this conversation uh lifting of houses. Um, and the
question there is, are you including the lifting as part of that permit fee waiver? So, a little direction for the city attorney so we can prepare that. Um, it works out like I said the the 60-day extension expires June 9th. Uh, you
don't have to be to the 10th, but you just back date, you know, do a retro for that. So, it's not a big deal that there would be that one day, but we need to make a decision, at least a a consensus decision to move forward or not move forward with it tonight so the city attorney can prepare that for the next
agenda. Okay. What's uh what's y'all's thoughts on an extension? I think they've had enough time. I think we've been very generous. Um I'm not sure Pasco or even Newport Richie are still open on those permits. I know
Newport Richie is not that I should bypass. There are still people that are still making repairs. I know, but they if they're making repairs, they should have already got a permit. And the people the people that we're talking about are people that have failed to come in for a permit for whatever
reason. Now, my only concern is what about people that are in the process of getting things? Uh I'm assuming those people are outside of that process, right? If they're if they're trying to raise a
house and they're there, again, we haven't discussed there. There may be people that are, you know, going to raise their house, they're in the process, but they wouldn't have put a permit in. In other words, they don't have the assembled documents so that they can actually put a permit in. And
those are the people that I'm more concerned with. How do you deal with that? or you know if if people have filed by June 9th then uh or if they're in some kind of process waiting for D or
FEMA or whomever is that something that so I guess not not to short circuit discussion but to make the process maybe a little bit more u controlled here you know since this isn't this isn't on the
agenda um I think what I was looking for is if interested in considering doing that, you can then put it on the agenda and have that full discussion on June 9th. And so that that's maybe I didn't word what I wanted to say the right way. What I should have said is if you're
interested in in having that discussion on doing something with it, direct uh the city attorney to do the resolution. That way you can put it on the agenda and you can have that full discussion one way or another. But I guess um so I
understand Matt, are we Dave's got some forgive me. Yeah, Dave's got some valid points there. You know, before we have the city attorney go drawing up some resolutions and everything else, why don't we just make a decision whether we're going to or not going to and then we can decide whether
we put on or not or more importantly maybe give some loose parameters of what we're thinking so that we can have something to act upon. Right. But it sounds like we want to talk about it. So yes, we should we could we could amend this agenda and talk about it at the end if you want to do that too just to give
a little more time to it or we can look into it more and then we look into it more recognizes this and elevate Florida program is over so that's going to affect that too. I think I think there's
there's pieces of information that that I would would expect you to have like where we stand with our building permits and all that. You know, obviously the building official nor the revenue manager is here tonight because at least one of them's away at a conference, but for that meeting, you'll have them here
for that. So again, I I don't want you to start going down a road without all the information and extend this meeting any longer than what you have to. Um and and you know this was brought to my attention well after the um you know agenda was already set. So I didn't have
a chance to pull all this stuff together for you tonight. So set up a separate meeting just for that according to Ashley and Andy scheduled and that may be a good good idea as well. Is is there a planning meeting coming up too? Well the next painting zoning is uh on the
10th the same day I suppose. Okay. So, two things obviously talked about whether extended or not. The other thing would be to include to include the the listings, but would that be let's say we
don't extend then we would need to look at probably something going forward if we want to do something. You're going to do that. Yeah. Yeah. So, is there is there any who who is interested in extending I guess that time frame or is undecided? You're you're you're in no ho
but Bob, where you at on it? I'm not, but I mean we can discuss it, but I'm not for it now. No, I'm not for it. I think people bet plenty of time. I'm not for extending. I agree. Okay. Well, I know there's people that are still working on things. If they're working on things and they already have
their permits, great. But if they've waited on their insurance all this time and they're just now going to start because it's a you don't get all your permits at once. Correct. No, you do. That you get them all at once. Well, it it depends. I mean, there's some what what we've advocated and told people
that we wanted to come in and get everything at the same time. That's not always how it works. I mean, a lot of times then they've had enough time probably and they're still in the process and they're still getting permits. There may be not that many. So, what difference would it make if there's
not that many? If there's what, you know, I mean, well, and just for clarification, to let them add what everybody else had. I think there comes a time where you got to stop. Yeah. Just just for clarification. So the flood plane permit the initial packet that they fill out
that had to be in. It was they already had a deadline that passed in that there could be a determination whether you need a building permit or not on certain things. So this cut off that we're talking about that's looming would be you have to have that building
permit if you need one filed for. Yep. You have to actually have have already been in submitted and approved for the building permit. Okay. Oh, submitted and approved. Well, I mean, you don't you don't necessarily pay. So, if you just
submit it, it has to be reviewed first before it actually goes through the full review. So, you could submit something, it gets called, well, you're missing five five things you need. You haven't submitted it yet, right? But you've submitted it, but it hasn't really been submitted. So, are you on the hook to pay if that deadline? Well, usually once
once the clarification is that that you've submitted everything, it's complete packet, it's going through the process, that's when you pay. So, for example, if you submit June 8th and then June 9th comes, we don't you're missing something and would that be in
or out? I think if you've already submitted it before that, we would So, we look at focus on the submission. Okay. So, that's easy enough to define. Okay. And then the issue with raising a house, that's a whole another animal because that might come a year down the road uh
with you know, Elevate Florida once that approval and at that point that's totally new construction. So I mean we can have that discussion or we can even address that. You do you do have people right now that that are going to be elevating their houses that aren't going
through that process. Are those exempted? Have been exempted? There's no relief right now, right? No. Well, I mean, for an elevation, there's no exception, right? Yeah. Right. From our perspective, um either tearing it down, building a
new house or elevation would be repair of damage. That's a question I have. So, if somebody said, you know what, I'm going to demo my property. There's no building permit fee for that currently. You need one for demo. No, no payment necessary.
In our current law, those are waved if you just demo the property. Correct. Right. But if you build new, are you not sure about that or Well, I Well, I know what my answer is, but I would want to check to make sure that everyone has that answer.
But we're still deciding whether we're going to discuss this later or not, but not really. Well, see what what parameters we need to give give her. And so just going further on that, the demos obviously I think the city is some point
in that process where we're going to be pushing out to force those could have 90 days I think is the once we say it's time to demo it or raise it. Um which could possibly go past that time frame.
It probably is worth a conversation the next meeting to see what we want to do going forward. probably is. Um, and there's probably not much work on your part. It's just an extension, right? So, why don't we do that? Just put it on the agenda for next time and have in-depth
conversation on it. Great. Good. And that would give us time to get the information back. Y that's fine. There's probably a few things we need to talk about how we move forward. There always is. Mhm. Um, item number two I had is, uh, you may recall that the, uh, main
zoning committee is working on the sign codes. Uh, one of the issues that came up with that is, uh, the types of signs that are allowed in the, uh, WOD overlay district. And right now, it prohibits the, uh, the use of lighted signs or
message board signs. I don't know how you want to call that. Um it appears that planning and zoning is uh open to modifying the WOD to allow those type uh which would require an ordinance to be
written. And in talking with the city attorney, she would like direction um if you're all in favor of doing that and putting together that ordinance uh for the WOD to allow those type of signs. Definitely. Definitely. Yes. Let's get it done. Do
you have something to add? Yeah, just put some grease on that. Let it roll, man. We So, and also would that be prudent to make that ordinance uniform across the city rather than have pocket zoning? I think that's what I think I think that's what's going to happen. So, if if if you if planning and zoning does
what I suspect they're going to do and you agree with their recommendation that the electronic digital signs will be allowed and I think the only place that's not allowed right now is W. Is there right now WD specifically does? These will be uniform across. That's why I wanted to bring them together. Is
there any other because in my mind I don't know why the WOD would be handled any different than the general city. I mean I can see why they might want to keep that area some. So is there anything else besides electronic signs that would be should we just look at overall? Do we want to have a special
sign code for the WD? I think there was I think there were four or five um conditions within the WOD. I think two of them PNZ is going to recommend that you get rid of. You can have a square foot variance on digital separate
from the other. You could separate that possibly. Otherwise, yeah, I think they're, you know, generally it's it's not the best practice to do that. You know, have certain districts called out
differently, especially on the signs. Um, I I understand why they what they thought they were doing made sense, but I think that that generally you don't want to do it because it creates a system of have and have nots and you
don't want that within their business community, right? You want everyone to be seen as being treated equal. The the u other other pieces that are in there and I just can't remember that I didn't think really impacted overall. I mean
there's, you know, sign sign regulations have undergone a dramatic change since, you know, the the whole stuff in 2015. Um, and and but there are certain things when you are trying to create a field within a district that you should do.
And I want to say that those extra ones kind of relate to that, but I I don't think that it necessarily made it uh more burdensome to them or or created, you know, that system of have and have nots. I think it it's something that
from what I remember was, you know, when I looked at said, yeah, this this isn't that bad of a a thing. Um, but definitely when when you can have one type of sign one place, you can't have it another place, that's a bad my my judgment is a bad thing. Um, and so
taking getting rid of what the planning commission was talking about, level that across the city. Um, if you're going to create that, create that within the sign code, not within the the district zoning code. But I want to say what the other issues and I may be wrong but I want to
say the other issues really weren't necessarily related signs but I mean there really signs but but were worked for what they were trying to do but again I I reserve my right to change that that thought if I read it
again and you can change it when it gets here. I'll start the ordinance with what planning and zoning is recommending which is the way the process should work and you can always take more out or add stuff back in. Yeah. But the police will go I'm trying to keep the the big sign revision ordinance and this together. So
it very when it changes for everybody, it changes for Yeah. Agreed. Any objections to that methodology? Okay. Make it happen. Yep. Done. Uh third thing, uh apologize it wasn't I see it's not on the agenda, but this is the
second meeting of the month, which means department presentation, and today our department presentation is finance. motion table. I'm just kidding. And and I believe uh because
uh B instruction is not available at the first meeting, we'll also include a quarterly update as well. The floor is yours, Mr. Thompson. Happy to have you. Thank you. My pleasure.
All right. Good afternoon. This is going to be very quick. I only got like five slides, so uh I don't know how you work this. There you go. All right. First, we'll take a look at the uh overall city finances. Right now, we've brought in about
10,672,000 in revenue. Adam, pull the mic a little bit toward Can you hear me now? What year is it? This is uh as of three of 25. And the reason I asked that question is I got that marked off on the first
accounting exam that I took. I failed to put the year. This is three of 25. This is quarterly from three of 25. So I was actually preparing a quarterly fiscal 25. Gotcha. Thank you. So our I said our revenues are 10,672,000. Our expenditures as of
325 was 7,639,000. We appropriated for the whole city 28,473,466 and we have left in that appropriation of $20,833 slide. Huh? Are you on the right side? I'm on the right side. He just read the
gray boxes right there. Yeah, I read. Now inside those are year-to- date numbers as of three of 25. Yes. Okay. Yeah. So, I prepared this like weeks ago, but I had a little surgery thing happen, so I couldn't do it. So, this is
a this is a quarterly and my little I'll give you a little taste of what we're doing at the end, too. So, now including that $10 million, we've had a couple of uh monies that come in that needs to be appropriated. We had $531,000 in insurance money that come in that hasn't been appropriated
and also a $65,277 FEMA check that came in a few uh from uh last year. So that's uh so really our revenues minus those um miscellaneous things are 10,75,921. We're still actually we've
we've made more money than we've spent so far this year. Uh in our general fund, you know, I should really work on my slides. I put some numbers in there. But as you can see, uh in our general fund, our general revenues right now was 5,93,955.
Um, our general fund expenditures are 4,338,159. So, we've again made more revenue than we've spent out of the general fund. Uh, again, we appropriated 8,34,875 in the general fund. So, out of that left, uh, we have
3,696,715 of that appropriated money left to spend. Any questions on the general fund? I'm going kind of fast because I think we're on a 9:00 deadline. I heard somewhere. Not yet. Okay. But we we can put you on a stream minute. Yeah, you can do that. That'll
be good. Go ahead. So then we'll go over to the utility funds. This is your uh water, sewer, and uh wastewater um right now. So this is a little off. When I originally made this, I added in um our grant revenues and stuff like
that, but I went ahead. I'm going to tell y'all just what our revenues for water, sewer, and those types of things are, which is 3,481,290 and 9. We've expended so far $2,758,881. So again, we've brought in more than we've spent.
Um the utility appropriations without any type of um um uh grants or anything else was around $6,126,65 and we have left to uh expend $3,367,183 out of the utility fund. Now this is just a city versus
revenue of expenditures. Again, we've uh we've appropriated $28,373,466 uh that we've um agreed that we would come in um the revenue side, which is sell water, all of our taxes, and some uh federal grants and things that we are going to um do. Our actual
revenue for the whole city was 10,672,375. And we've uh um actual expenditures were 7,639. Again, we've we've uh spent less than we brought in, which is a good not it's not the greatest of things. So, we should be as
a city uh spending spending spending, you know. So, especially being caught, we need to catch up with our um our revenue. Yeah, I see your thing. Why Why are we 18 plus million more budgeted
than actual? These are appropriate. These are these are the fully appropriated. So alto together for the city for the general fund penny for Pasco everything was $28 million. So in all of those funds we've received about 10,675,000
um and we've um expended 7,639,000 question. So any questions on on that? Again we've we've brought in more than we've spent this year. So which is good. And when you had taken account for the uh million plus dollars that we spent for uh clean
up for the hurricane, uh we're in a really good spot. But of course also we want to make sure that we're not, you know, undelivering on our services that we have for the city, too. So that's where that comment where we should be spending, you know, keeping up with our revenues. We want to make sure that we're giving the same services we should
be giving. Um this is a a d disaster recovery. This is what we've we've spent so far and what we've uh asked for. um um payback from FEMA. As you can see, um we've spent roughly about $1.34 million
in the cleanup. That's not overtime and other things we this is just for the cleanup of the city debris pickup um stuff like that. So, oh, you know, actually this may include a little bit of the overtime in there if I'm not mistaken, but this is what we've uh we've expended and that's what we um are
requesting back, which hasn't really changed since last time. And let me just add that um we we've been in the expedited program reimbursement for the the pickup the CV and uh brush
um new definition of expedited. Um and we should have actually received the first payment uh I want to say it was probably about January when they first told us that we were getting it. Um, and they are just in the process of doing
the final reviews at the state to cut the check. So, but we're not sure if it's everything or if it's still just the 592,000 they were cutting the original check for. So, we should we should have a check in the next few weeks. Is some of this money the same
money that we use when there aren't hurricanes on when we do those spring and the fall cleanups? Is it the same money? No. No, that's different money. Yeah, this this was strictly just what we spent picking up the CND and the
brush pickup. So, this money came from the same place. The general fund is where it came from. And when we we do I don't I don't know that you've been here for the spring cleanups or the I have not. Yeah, we do something where people can bring things here to city hall one week and then the
second week they come by your home, they'll pick up furniture and everything else. So I didn't know if that was this isn't this isn't part of that. Actually we took out do that this year. So I wondered what happened to that money or is it the same money? We didn't do it last year.
We did. Yeah, we didn't do it this because we had the source. So we we haven't Let's me ref. So yeah. Did we appropriate money for that last time we did that? Probably. You'll remember. Yeah. Like before my
time. Uh I Yeah, I just wondered if that was different the same money or different money and if it was different money than where's that money? Yeah, it was it was never appropriated for in this budget. Okay. Doing that. That's a good thought for our next budget though if you want to do that. Yeah, because we
usually we did do it. I I thought we just didn't do it this year because of the hurricanes because we're already cleaning stuff up. That's true. And so this this 1.1 million this doesn't this isn't the only block of there's a this this is just um
the category B right category B yeah this is just what we've we've expended for cleanup and stuff out of our you know fixing pipes motors stuff like that that busted during the thing uh this is all clean up and fix up from that that's it so it's 1.3 million so just real quick I wanted
to point out um I dalia and then you and then Helen. So that's why we didn't that's why we didn't do before was was another massive clean up and not as big as Helen but that's why we didn't do a clean but we usually you know we've done that people love that and those monies are usually internal through like public
works um that their budget it's a very minimal amount we rent dumpsters all the work is done internally so it's not a it's different yeah I wasn't sure where it came from so yeah I yeah I hadn't heard that so there there is a whole another classification of expenditures you know
um what happened uh for the the lift stations and things like that that aren't included in this that's that's on a slower track. Is that is that where the uh the penalized monies from the waving the building fees will be taken out of that
that that will be part of the act we'll be submitting those costs. So we should get this full 1.1 back. Yeah. This this you know they they approved it. They authorized it. It was just again the first the first uh lump that they were supposed to give us. They never cut the
check. And uh I've seen some of the emails coming from them. You know, it's oh, we didn't know. Can't believe you don't have the money. Now we're getting something. And we're trying to verify what it is they're supposed to be giving us. So, just uh be aware too, this money is going to go into its own separate bank
account and it'll we will eventually in the next month or so working on a a budget amendment for this year. So, we'll take that money. We'll be able to appropriate that money. You'll also need to appropriate that $500,000 from the from uh the insurance and also that $65,000 check. So, you can do with what
what you will. But just to reiterate, $1 million to do this cleanup we did take out of our we took $500,000 out each one of our investment accounts. So, uh any questions on the cleanup? Um, and then just uh going forward um we
uh our capital improvement money we budgeted $4.8 million and as of uh March 25, we've only spent about $14,25 that. But I do know that in the past uh month or so, you know, the utility department, I think, has been in
trying to order the vehicles and stuff that we are we put out for Capital Outlay. And he's actually I talked to him this morning. is working on some other stuff, but it just just to, you know, show that we have this much money to do these type of capital outlay, we need to be using it to do that. And we've only spent about 14,000, which I know we've been, you know, hurricane
cleanup and stuff like that. Um, CRA grants, as you we put $100,000 in residential and $100,000 in uh in the commercial. I know we have a couple commercial outstanding right now, but you know, we only spent about $28,976 of that $100,000 um grant money
out there right now. Um, that's as of March. So, are are we indicating to those coming in for permits that there's funds available for this kind of stuff? I mean, that's we don't really see a a
good take rate on on these grants and No, I agree with you. That's something we probably should put some announcements out or something that there's funding available and people should, you know, step up. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we could we could pass that along to um to Valerie or
Valerie or even put it on our website or send it out on one of those Civic Plus uh notes or something because, you know, we're trying to get things improved around here and correct and here's money on the table
that could be used to clean up a lot of things and and it's unfortunate people aren't coming in. So, if you're listening, there's looks like almost nothing 30 grand 33 32,000 or or 70
72,000 available. Uh there's there's some some in the works. I know. Yeah, I know the there's some commercial. Yeah. It doesn't you know it doesn't show until we actually cut the check. I'm going to say so I do know there's a couple commercial. I think they're $10,000 or maybe a little 20,000. One is 20. Yeah. Signed off. I can't remember
what the other one was. Yeah. But as far as the residential, I mean, we should be 6 months into the year. we should be a little further especially after all the damage and stuff like that. So, and what I'd like to see is 100 grand starting. We've we've got applications equal to 60 grand. We've deployed 40 grand. We've
got, you know, the rest of the story. So, that you see that there's something available. There could be, you know, there's still money on the table. And every year that I've been here for the last seven years, we've exited the year with money on the table. So, somehow
we're not connecting with the community. That message needs to go forward. I agree with you. Perfect. So maybe we do a when they come in for a permit, we do a I don't know where the problem is. I know that it's a problem and communication typically is where the
problems at. So we'll make sure at the next CRA meeting um they have that presentation. Yep. Um some things uh to go forward on. You know, we you know, one of those things that uh I've been a big proponent on is salaries. All right. So, going
forward in this budget season, you know, that's one thing we'll be looking at, making sure that we're not paying minimum wage and things like that. Um, and just making sure that we're paying people, you know, where they need to be. Of course, that's all going to be part of the budget process and things like that. That's some things we're going to look at. Also, you know, to make it a
little easier, uh, we're going to be budgeting line items that make sense. Right now, we have a bunch of stuff that's being poured into professional services that really isn't professional services. We have budget lines for all these things. We're just not, you know, using them uh, the way we should. So this budget year, you'll see there's going to be a lot more operational lines
in there than there has been because, you know, doing, you know, fixing brakes on the, you know, fire truck shouldn't be a professional service. It should be maintenance. Not that y'all do that. I'm just saying. So some of that stuff doesn't make any sense. So when you're trying to to see where your money is going, it it's not, you know, it's
easier to see it that way. Um, and we have the outsourcing of payroll. We're I'm working with ADP on that right now to try to to get that implemented as soon as possible. Um but uh it's going to be about a two-month process to get it there. So um that's coming. And also
um our new software we've been I've been uh doing um uh software I've been um oh gosh what's the word I'm looking for looking at software different about four of them all together. So, but with the uh payroll and other things that are
come up, you know, I've kind of put on the back burner, but it's really a really important thing to do because even trying to get the information out to this ADP, the information they need from us, we can't get from one source of uh reports, I have to cut and paste and put them all together and stuff like
that. So, our system is really just antiquated and outdated. And especially with with uh not only payroll, but with our accounting functions as well. um this morning uh just for instance, we have a PO out there for the grant for the uh life pack for $70,000. It won't
let us pay it because it doesn't recognize it as an accounts payable. It put it into a different uh um um line and it's, you know, frustrating because we can't write the check. We're going to fix it, but it's just it's just antiquated uh system. Um and uh some
other things that are going on. So, we we have decided to uh cut back our utility billing down to just two people. And so, make one of those instead of getting rid of it, we're going to make one of those people a purchasing clerk, which is exactly what we need here in the city. Right now, you know, some of the um departments do their own
purchasing, but we need a centralized purchasing person so that we make sure that we are spending the money the right way and where it's going and and all that kind of stuff. And that way, it takes it off of the departments as as well. We have this one person that can can do that for us. Um, and I'll give you a little heads up on the red light
camera. That was a kind of a source of contention last year. As of as of uh March 205, um we had made about $665,47 on a budget of $1.6 million. So,
right now, as well as of March, we had $995,000 left to to uh uh receive in. If if my math is correct, doing that for the next 6 months, we should be pulling in about $138,000 and that probably isn't happening. We haven't I think we had one
good month there. So, we're just not pulling it in like we should. So, that's definitely something we'll have to reook or look at again during budget budget season. What you're saying is the red light camera revenue side that was budgeted at 1.6 is way under running. It is way
Well, yeah, about $10,000 a month, give or take. I mean is so we've been we've been averaging about 120 grand a year. 120. Yeah. So we're we're doing about 100 one on the red light cameras and then another 25 grand give or take on the the county side of it. So we're running about 125. But to catch up and
get where we need to be, we're looking about 138,000, but I think we're going to be more like 1.3 million by the time it's from the previous year when that was looked at. Some of that was attributable to the fact that they were aging off and uncollectible, right? Do
we have a record of what that looks like? Yeah. So, I I believe Katchcha has been we've been having monthly meetings on that. So, we've we've come up with some ideas on how to collect. So, a lot of that So, we're I correct me if I'm wrong, but we're somewhere around 65% collection rate. Um, so not exactly what
he's asking. Um, so the the ones that were not processed, they are processing them all now, right? Um, the ones that can be processed, I think, there's always a number that just some reason you can't read. Yeah. Or, you know, it's um a police car going through there, a
sheriff's vehicle going through lights and sirens, right? I mean, there's I can't think of trying to think of the word they use, but there's uh uncontrollable or something I think is the word. So that that part has been rectified, but it's just there are less
tickets being written, which is a good thing, which is exactly what you're supposed to be doing, right? It's just supposed to encouraging the right behavior, which is what we want. Well, I I'm I'm not going to be here and say that that we're actually encouraged or the right behavior is being encouraged.
It could just be uh people are driving differently today than they were three years ago because I mean, there's been a decline. there was a peak and a decline. I'm going to guess that if you play this out 10 more years, there's going to be another peak and there'll be another decline. Okay? And and as we taught that
talked about the last uh when we run through the budget, you know, we need to come up with a number that we say, okay, this is the the expected every year and it may be 1.1 million. Right. Right. Right. And and so
you build the budget based upon $1.1 million worth of revenue and if you get more money in that goes into you know we buy another police car or or we do another road or you know we do something whatever we can spend that money on
related to uh that. But but again, I I think there there appears to be peaks and valleys in this because there was a buildup to where we went and then now it's starting to go back down again. Um and those things usually have a cycle
that will go back up at some point in the future. Right. Yes. And all I was trying to establish in one have we rectified the process so we are looking at the right stuff in a timely manner so it doesn't age off and becomes uncollectible which was the
issue and it sounds like that's been fixed. Um and then the the next thing is we've seen a decline in uh red light tickets and maybe it's because you know they got a law enforcement trailer sitting there flashing lights. Hey,
you're going too fast. Need to slow down. Paying attention. So, whatever it is, yeah, back out half a million dollars out of the budget. I will I will say that there was attempts in this legislative session to do away with that. We probably need to decouple
ourselves from that revenue source, right? So, that would be something to think about. Yeah, that's that's coming. Yeah, it's a huge huge amount of money to lose out of the general fund then. There is there is that's coming. Well, we could flip it over to the speeding tickets like they do out of Paris, right? Right. Yeah, they got a good
system over there. They just keep mailing tickets. You keep paying, they keep mailing to you. Anyway, thank you. Yeah. Any questions? I'm done. That was under 15 minutes. Yep. Thanks. Thank you. All right.
More stuff. Just wanted to say thank you to everyone um to council. You know, it's it's in the short time that I was here, there was a lot of different councils, it seemed like. Uh but uh you know, I I respect everyone
that uh chooses to run for election and do these things that you guys do. Um it's not always the best. Sometimes you're blindsided and you have to handle things uh uh in a way that uh is befitting for what what comes before you. It takes a lot. I respect that. Um,
and you know, believe it or not, I always learn from each and every one of you, uh, that I haven't had time with. Um, you may not know that, but I do, and I appreciate those lessons that I learned and, you know, the way you go about doing your business. So, thank you for all you've done to support me in the
last 18 months or so. Um, and, uh, it's something that, uh, I definitely will take with me for the rest of my life, as you know, with with any any city that I work with. Um, you know, the staff is a great staff that you have. You know, everybody here sees themselves as a
small city, but what they do is not a small city. And and I think as a council, you should be proud of what they do on a daily basis because again, they're doing the workload of a lot larger city um than than what you think
you represent right now. And uh they give it their all. There's very few times that that I've thought, believe me, in my 32 almost 32 years as a manager, I've wondered about people and the efforts that they give, but there hasn't been a time here that I've looked
at any of our staff and said, you know, you can do more because they're doing a lot um on a daily basis. And you know, as uh Mr. Thompson said about looking at the pay. Um, you know, we we and I'm
thinking of one particular employee in the finance department who is has, you know, through all the ups and downs of the hiring process and and changes in utility billing was there and was always
there. and it's someone that that you know we're we're trying to put in the right uh pay range but was basically making a little bit more than minimum wage for us and and you know our ability to do what Adam talked about in terms of
going three people doing building to two people which you know is something that probably should have been done a long time ago is because of people like her that you know shoulder a little bit more responsibility without being asked to shoulder that responsibility and and you
know that that compact that we should have with our employees is if you're doing outstanding things, we should be giving you a a pay and benefit package that befits that. Again, there's some limitations here. You know, our budget
is not a big city budget by by any stretch of the imagination. And but but at the same time, the level of benefit that residents are receiving from our employees and what they do is a lot higher than paying someone 15 bucks, 15,
60, whatever it was an hour. Um and and the reality is minimum wage is going up every year and you don't want to be that city that that you know gets dinged because you're paying less than what minimum wages. people leave. And so, you know, you can expect more,
you can do more, but you have to reward the the employee base to do that. And and I think uh you know, the people you have working for you worth it. Um and then, you know, last thing from the residents, um you know, we we have a lot of great residents here. Um a lot of
great businesses. uh you know worked with a lot of them and and again there's a great future waiting for the city of B Richie. There's a lot of work to do to get there though and you know the residents keeping them engaged and and doing things you know like the way
finding and branding and engaging them in that will help build that that camaraderie that you need in a growing community to keep it moving forward and engaging our business community as much as possible is very important. So, please don't don't stop doing that
because when you stop doing that, what's going to happen is the the city will start tearing this health apart and you don't want that. Thank you all of you and I appreciate everything over the last 18 months and look forward to hearing great things about the city of
Bury. Well, I want to thank you uh for coming here and helping us out. Uh you set the standard for what a city manager should be in the city and I like to think that we've become friends. Yeah. since you've been here. It was starting out. You You've taught me a lot. Well, I
did warn you. I'm coming up to see you this summer. I'm gonna find out where you live. So, it's not getting off that easy. So, you've been warned. But, yeah, I do I do appreciate everything and I'm happy that you've uh made yourself more valuable and you're going to be going someplace you're going to be happy and
enjoying life the way you should. And congratulations and we do appreciate you very much, Matt. Thank you. Certainly. Yep. No regrets at all. Said you the short time ahead, we've it's been a pleasure. So glad you're uh moving on.
Thank you. Okay, next up, comments from boards and committees. Um I'll start. The centennial committee met this afternoon and um we're we're winding that down. Obviously, we um we don't have an exact
number uh left, but we I think we got to the tune around $7,000 left in the budget. We're going to do some uh recognition for our sponsors, plaques or whatever. So, we scheduled our next meeting on July 15th to kind of close everything up and wind that committee
down. Um I'll uh I'll go ahead and bring it up here. Uh, I was going to say for my comments at the end, but since it's around boards, committees, so obviously I chair that committee. Um, the purpose of it was to do centennial events and and represent the city. What I would
what I talked to the committee about and I'd like to see is is we continue doing things from an event perspective, marketing perspective. And so I want again don't want to talk about it necessarily tonight, but just kind of plant the seed. I'd really like to um as
we close that committee down, look at opening another committee and calling it a uh a marketing event planning committee where their sole focus is to look at one, you know, bring in the the sponsorships um to sponsor events and I just give you a couple examples.
Obviously, the mayor's ball, we held that. Um, I think it'd be great to have an event like that in the city that that benefits charity. Um, and and and put that on the car show, the fishing tournament, um, and even some other things. Look at, you know, what what's a good fit, when to do it, coordinate, but
have a committee to kind that be their focus is to do that. Um, originally I thought when I was on the CAC back before I got elected, um, that the CAC could kind of do that. I don't think there was appetite there and they kind of have another focus. So I really think we need to look at another committee to to really focus on that because it it
brings community together. We can do some great things from that perspective um as we benefit charities and whatnot. So I really I think that's something we should look forward to continuing. Is there any objections to to that? Um great idea. Okay. So I don't if you
could maybe look into seeing what we need to do to obviously wind down the centennial and then and look at bring up another committee to to inform that. would would I don't know if you had any discussion with the people that were on that committee have any interest in in
extending to Yeah. So I did and I I I generally I brought up first is a repurposing of that committee. Um but we we decided we need to we need to wind that one down and then once we put together whatever the the it's the same number whatever we can kind of model it after that obviously but then they would
reapply if they were interested. Right. And of course, we'd have to still see, do we want to open that up outside the city and all those things that uh logistically have to happen. So, I'm glad you all on board with that. I think it's a good thing. I think it's good for the city. Um, any other boards, committees that are here
to Okay, moving on. Consent agenda item number two. I do have a comment on that. Get to it. So the the $20,000 payment amount to Pyro Productions for the fireworks show,
it shows original 20,000 uh year to date 20,000, but there's a remaining budget of negative 5,000. What is that negative 5,000 represent? Right. On page eight. Yeah, page eight of the packet. So uh on the line item,
so that that's what we took all the items out of. When you look at it, we only budgeted 40,000. We So yeah, we only budgeted 40,000. The Centennial money has not been actually appropriated to that line item yet. So it's going to be negative 40,000. I
mean, it's going to be negative 5,000. It's going to be negative the other amounts we put in there as well. Well, if you say original budget 20,000, we spent year to date 20,000. That is your zero remaining budget. That that line item you're looking at, I don't have my thing. account 119479
479 that's what we put everything from the centennial into that city events so everything that we did for the in centennial is being paid out of that line so after we put that $20,000 charge in there and everything else it left at negative $5,000 it's not so it's more than just the fireworks it's more than
just the fireworks well okay in in that line in that lineup that's very confusing very and essentially what you're saying is we budgeted 40,000 so really the original budget was4,00 000, but you've incurred another four uh
25,000 in other things that you're not showing here. That gives you the delta of that negative five. Uh let me try. So the the appropriation was 40,000. Okay. So what this is saying is
that out of that line item, they've spent $45,041. With this one, it puts it to that. What they haven't brought forward is the additional revenue which I thought was a lot more than 5,000.
Right. 53,000. Yeah. So the budget hasn't been amended yet to reflect the increase a the increase in the revenues or b the increase in the expenditure. So right now it's overspent by $5,041. And so in reality, there was only $10,000
that came out of the city's general fund anyway cuz right cuz with So we we had about $53,000 sponsorships of which 10,000 was a city. It was $40,000 in that line item we appropriated for city events. Here's what's missing. It says
original budget of 20. Yes, that was for this line item. There's another 20,000 of other things that are not reflected here. Even though it says original budget, original budget was 40. You should have put 40,000 on there. Yeah. Right. So, we're not looking at
the whole thing. But at the end of the day, what they're saying is we've spent 5,000 more than what we have budgeted. Irrespective of what the revenue is, that's not even being considered on this. It doesn't matter. This $20,000 is what the the bill was from the fireworks.
And for $20,000, we got our bang for the buck. Yeah, that was a good shot. Let's leave it at that and move on. But I but I do have but I want people to understand what that because we didn't spend technically $20,000. Let's just say from what I'm looking at here, I can't understand it either. But it
should have been different. I apologize. That's that's fine. She sent that over. Um that's my bad. Uh with the Pasco Utilities line, um the Home Depot and that's another thing. Why do we have a Home Depot sewer?
We don't have any sewer in our city. Forget Pasco. We don't have a sewer plant. We have sewer. We just dump into another system. Okay. Which is station, but why are we paying somebody for the purpose
for the privilege of dumping our uh stuff into their system? Is that They clean it. They clean it for us. Yes. Oh, they clean it for us. They clean it for us. Yeah. So, we we every lift station goes to a a clean a wastewater. No. If I'm if I'm not mistaken, this is the
one that they bill for us and we have to pay them right out there. If I if I'm correct that this is just basically when it says Home Depot, that's just the location. Yeah. Of that particular master meter. But um that's
the one that we pay for their for the for Paso County to treat our sewer going out in that direction. That's an outflow point. That's outflow. All right. This process. So, are we underrunning or overrunning
on that? Looks like we're I think we're under running, right? Yeah. I I think we're kind of getting back in the habit where he's not billing as often as he should. Okay. On that. So, we called him uh last week. I'm waiting on the point back. So, yeah, he's not billing
correctly. And that was March also. So, what happened to April and May? So I'm saying same thing kind of like what what's going on in Newport Rich with that that other deal. So you're working that out? Yeah, we're we're calling them because yeah, we're not we're getting we're not getting consistent billing.
All right. Then on the fuel uh this is what city fuel for? What is that? Is that fire department? That's for everybody. The the wax on there. The city fuel should be every department. Every department they got a credit card. They go to some place and get get fuel.
Okay. Yeah, that's every department. I just didn't know. Okay. It says both. Yeah. Is the question. Is there a motion? I got a question. Sure. So, Adam, in my company, I'm not pointing the fingers at anybody else,
but in my company, u 43 employees, we had massive fuel theft. Um, and it took a while for us to discover it. You know, some of them got away with it for years. What do we have here to keep a tight round on fuel? Well, the well the wax
cards, you know, you have to put in a number so we can actually see when you're actually there. So, it'll say 10:00. So, I mean, really, we should be looking at that. I don't know that we do that, but mileage and employee mileage is entered and employee numbers entered every time
they get gas. So, and it really could be correlated back to their their on shift times. You know what I'm saying? So if you're here, I get gas on. Do we ever audit that? Does anybody ever audit that? And the only way we caught is we audited. We you know, we we had given everybody cards and we were like
trusting everybody and then we did an audit and we caught lots of people stealing gas from us. I would I would defer I'm not I'm not accusing of stealing gas. I just my mind because I went through it myself. I'm we would have to defer to department heads. I mean if they felt that they had a problem in a particular area to do that.
I mean we can audit it across the board. How about spot auditing? I'm just saying a little spot auditing. How about looking at the cameras, looking just pick a little period of time, you know, and just spot audit it and see if you have a problem doing that spot audit. Mileage, who's doing it, all that stuff.
When When you say video from the gas station itself or Well, you said there's timestamps and stuff, right? You can look at it live. What do you Are you looking at it through a camera? No, no, we're not looking at we don't go to the the gas stations to gather their footage. No. Okay. Well, do we have an
account with the a certain gas station to get a discount for the quality of the quantity? No. W covers several different companies of gas station 7-Eleven. Um the other I don't know our new payroll
company. We're able to keep track and it's easier to keep track of the fuel usage that way too. Well, there will be a schedule. So, we I we in theory can go back and look, you know, I bought it. We can do that. Now, if it's if it's out of whack, like, you know, I
but it usually runs about $9,000 when it's 10 or 13,000. I do we me and Marie, my finance clerk, we do sit down and look at it. I mean, of course, I I don't know who all is on duty and stuff, but you know, we make sure that you have the county in line like, you know, you're you're using I mean, but as far as
auditing, I don't and we can do that. So, if I could I'll range back in this consent agenda. We're just looking for the the ability to pay these bills. And so, obviously, there's and great questions about procedure and what we do as far as keep an eye on our fuel usage. I think that's an item that we should
maybe talk about another agenda item. Let me just leave one thought. Sure. Uh year-to- date we spent 76 grand. That averages for six months. That's about 12,000 a month. They're asking for the 10. So they're actually under running what an average would be. So it looks
like it's in line. So we couple months,000 I think the consent agenda for Okay. Is there a second? Second. Any further discussion? Any public comment? See I put the vote. All in favor signify by saying I. I. I opposed. Motion carries.
Okay. Did we want to have a discussion about that later? About what? About fuel and procedures on how to Okay. No, that's up to them. I I think I think that we should have that as a something as a city we look at just auditing
period. You know, we should have an auditing auditor. We should audit everything so we all know what's going on. That's a process and procedures that should be addressed, right? Yeah. Why don't we if you'd asked I'm telling you. So, yeah. No, I think I think it's worthy of discussion. Why don't we on a
future agenda if we just talk about present to us what what the process is and so we can take a look at that. Okay. Just for knowledge purposes. Okay. Next up, we got a few public hearings. Item number three, first reading of ordinance number 25-732, repealing ordinance 96.
What? I was going to ask if you could move one of these items up. Okay. Glenn, I would like to move the item about the U threehour meeting number 11 up to now
so so that we can be under whatever we decide and we can continue to work toward a 9:00 goal. [Music] You want to make a motion? I'm making a motion. I'm just asking him if we can. Do we need a motion? If if the council's desires to do that, we sure can do that.
I would like to make a motion to move number 11 up uh to now so that we can uh see if we want to vote on that to keep that us within the three-hour meeting time limit. Okay, I second. I have a motion second. Any further discussion?
Any public comment? Seeing none, I put to a vote. All in favor signify by saying I. I oppose. Nay. Motion carries. Okay. We'll take up item number 11 is now number three. uh approval of resolution number 25-31 setting a policy to end regular city
council meetings at 9:00 p.m. and provided for effective date. I'll pass it Mr. Cop for introduction. Um at the last meeting uh there was a conversation regarding putting end times the meetings at 900 p.m. Um city attorney has
prepared the resolution that uh makes the end time except with a vote of council to extend it 900 pm. Okay. So, I'll open the floor up to motion and discussion. I'll uh I can let
me start. Um we talked about this last meeting and um I'm going to share my screen. So, I I took the liberty of uh just going out the last year on the duration of the council meeting by the YouTube stamp on there. So, I'm assuming
that's fairly accurate the meetings and I I pointed out the time frames and how many went past 9:00 p.m. and also made some notes on why they may or may not have. So, a couple things I want to point out. I'm not a fan of this. I would not be a fan of if I was uh went
to my employer and said, you know, I really would like to work the six-hour days. You know, I'm employed to do a job and if it takes longer to do that job, takes longer. Um, if I'm not as efficient, I should work on my efficiency, get there. But I, you know, there's there's certain things that I
can do to do that. I'd like to point out that council has the ability any time to table things if we see we're running behind. Um, and and we can do that on certain things that we maybe could push off. Um, I think putting arbitrary time
of 9:00 uh puts us in a position like this is a perfect example of, you know, we spent the first hour and 10 minutes. We just got through the department presentation which takes time. Um, you know, public comment plays in there and so putting an arbitrary time frame on the ability for us to do the city
business is just a bad idea in my opinion. But if you look at the data I have here down at the bottom over the course of the year, the average meeting time is 2 hours 20 minutes, which would take us to 8:20. So our average time in in here were about 2 and a half hours. Okay? And that was
factored in. There's two meetings that was canceled at zero. Okay? and we cancel meeting that just that puts that much more on the next meeting. And so, but if I back those out, it's still at 2 hours and a half is our average time. So, if you look at we've got, I think, seven meetings in the past year that went over and one of them just a smidge
over 9:00. Um, the last two being the most recent. Um, we had city manager stuff we had to talk about. I mean, so that' been something we had to extend anyway. It was, you know, we just had a lot on the agenda. Plus, we had to talk about how we replace Matt. Um and we had
several public comments about interim city manager and and we also had about the using the logo on the uh the Centennial ROM. Several public comment was put in there. Um and then the meeting before that you'll see there was public comment and utility presentation took us to the first hour before we even
conduct business. Uh and then we had a lengthy conversation about city manager former government because again we talk about replacing city manager and what we're going to do going forward. So there was there was hefty communication around that and I want to encourage that. We can't call each other behind
the scene and say hey what do you think about this and this is the time that we do that and you have to take the time to have those discussions. I can be a little more facilitative as I did. You know we were talking about consent agenda. There were several questions we kind of got sidetracked tried to rein you back in. Um you know can definitely
do more than that. we really need to police ourselves uh on our comments and when we're talking about certain things and if we see something we want to have an in-depth discussion about say hey is there can we bring this up put this on agenda get it on there and try to do that have the ability to extend I don't
real I don't really see why it's an issue because we're trying to set a goal we are holding ourselves to a standard and if we're looking at 9:00 as as a deadline realizing that we can extend if there's an important issue. I have no problem extending, but we ought to set
our own uh standard and try to achieve that. I'm making a motion. I agree with I want to talk. Well, I start if you want to motion, you can take motion. Yeah, I did. You have a motion? I made a motion. I
made a motion to start the meeting. Yeah. Well, we been the agenda. So, this we haven't got a motion on the agenda item yet. So, if there's a motion, I thought we were discussing the agenda. We are. You we amend we had a motion and a second it carried to to amend the agenda to talk about number 11. Now we're here
and I made a motion. There's been no motion yet. Number 11. Now there's a motion. Is there a second? Second. Okay. A motion. A second. Any further discussion on that? Yeah, there is further discussion. Um you know I ran for this position to serve my city. Okay. I find it extremely difficult and
frustrating to be able to conduct enough business during this time here because you can't talk out there. They'll handcuff you and lock you up. Okay? So, when we come in here, all of a sudden, I'm telling all those voters who just voted for me. Hey, listen, by the way, we're on my time, buddy. Okay? We're
closing at 9:00. I don't think that's right. I don't think it's right of any of us on here at all. I mean, I understand there's there's a commitment that comes along with sitting here and arguing it out on this time, but this is the time to do it. There's nowhere else to do it. Where else are we going to do it? But we can
exp look Look up there. Well, as a question seven there's seven times in a 12 month period. TW forgot that one. One of them was over by a couple minutes. Dave, my point is only seven times in the last year. The nine o'clock
shouldn't be a problem. So why is it a problem? I miss one. The nine o'clock shouldn't be a problem. And as far as like the special times like hurricane and you have a a city manager, those are hopefully rare occasions. We can start we can set up according to Ashley's and
the manager schedule maybe start at 5:00 or have a town hall meeting to discuss those things outside city uh these meetings. We can set up more meetings. That's for sure. That's true. And if it's all convenient for us to do and it's convenient for the city manager and actually put those together, we could start maybe at 5:00 like we have a city
manager. We'll set aside a meeting like a town hall meeting for that and we'll get that all hashed out and I'm I'm meeting with both these guys tomorrow at 3:30 when I see the agenda. I usually know what's on the agenda before they come to my come to my email. So when I
come in here it's we need to discuss those things. Everybody's got some ideas but we already should have already discussed that with the city manager and we can have the city manager and department heads together and discuss those things before we even come to the meeting. And that's efficiency and that's understanding what the agendas
are before they come into the meeting and that's letting these guys go home so they can do their job the next day. I don't want to be selfish and keep these guys here till 10:00. We do have special things to do. We should have meetings for those like the city manager shouldn't have been discussed all at one
night. That's and it needs to be discussed but we if we had like that date we set it for the daytime interview them. We should have a meeting set aside to hash that out. what we just what we decided to do as far as a city manager on a separate meeting. Those special
occasions should be set up as special times. That's why I feel about it. I think because meetings are over usually in two three hours, 9:00 is plenty of time to get this done out and talk about and discuss these agendas. No, I I
agree. And then we can extend it. It's right there. We have to adjust. And I agree too. If most of them are going two and a half hours, then there shouldn't be any problem going tonight. What I would really like to see is not getting off our agenda and not going on and on
and on about something with a nine o'clock stop in our heads. We won't do that and we'll actually probably get more business. You call the uh city manager tomorrow. I'm setting up a meeting with can't do
it at the same time really, but you talk to Nancy, talk to Matt, and and talk to them about what you want to do, and they'll tell you how we can do this a lot more efficiently under the sunshine law, which I I don't agree with it. It's it's reminds me of gun laws in these big
cities where you're not allowed to have guns, where people getting killed by guns all the time. It's kind of the same kind of thing, but I understand why they have it at the same time. it. Uh there's ways to get things done um around those things properly and and
you got to meet with the city manager and city attorney. Get them. What do you think, Matt? You're looking around. Well, I just I just want to be clear that we don't find ways around the sunshine. Let me rephrase that. Yeah. I'm surprised she didn't come out of her. She's getting things done according to
We don't We don't work around it, right? We work with it. Thank you, Matt. Yeah, that's why I love you, man. So, so if I could if I could close my thought before I got interrupted. So, obviously there was a data. Um I'm going to I'm going to say just a couple things. We just we
just went to uh ballot with a um with a pay raise for the council that passed overwhelmingly, I might add. And what I see as a member of the public and and and that is the very one of the very first things we do is now we're telling them that we're not going to work past
nine. And I think that's a big slap in the face of the people that invested in this council. But it is what we're saying. So let him have one time. So there's that thing, right? Again, there are a lot of things that that uh
we should do as individuals when we get the agenda, we should reach out to city uh manager to get the information that we don't have to get that here and rehash that. Follow the agenda. Again, we can put an arbitrary time frame on it and we'd constantly be watching the clock to try to hit that. Uh, but what I
would rather do is focus on the job at hand and if we need to take a little time. We're not worried about coming up against the clock. That's just my opinion. And again, it goes back to, you know, we the public is happy with us. They they see we're doing good work. They they're paying us for it. And all I
see is this is now we're telling that, you know, thanks for the pay raise. We want to get out here at 9:00. So, I would just end with that. And if anybody else has anything happy, I just think the people would like to see the police chief awake on Wednesday mornings. Oh, let me let me add one more thing. I'm
glad you brought that up. So, I am all about staff not having to uh be on the clock all the time. And I I think there's there's things we can do from a comp time perspective or whatever to compensate these folks for their time. I totally get that. So, that that's a very
valid point, keeping keeping staff here longer than need be because that's a totally different thing. totally agree with that. But I think we can handle that with comp time that they can come in late the next day or whatever we need to do to compensate them for that. 100% on board with that. Um we have special meetings and I think we need to utilize
those. And and I will tell you I will be calling them if if we're not getting city business done with because we're getting out here at 9:00. I'll be calling special meetings on the off too. We got a pay raise and I'm all for that. I'm willing to work. I just caution you that it's, you know, that's just changing the number of days you're going to be here instead of staying a little
longer on. Well, that's up to city manager and you and Ashley schedule work it out where we can be here hopefully and do those. But yes, as a homeowner and as a taxpayer in the city, I do not agree. Forget about my
council seat. I'm just if I'm sitting over there, I don't agree that we're cutting ourselves at 9:00 and we're required to talk about everything in here. Sure, I can go and talk to Matt and all that stuff, but we just like we've discovered, you've got one opinion, I've got another. We're trying to hammer that up. That's what they voted us in here for to represent their
interest to hammer those things out and and now we're cutting it at 9:00. And the mayor's proved we're very few times these guys have been asked to stay over very few times and some of them almost just a few minutes. And I don't want to get to the point where we're asking them to come back again on another Tuesday to have
another hour or two meeting stuff up. I mean, I I think from a staff perspective, I'd rather stay a little extra to finish it up as opposed to coming in another day. Well, we can vote on that. When I call special meeting, it's a special meeting. Just so you know, it's not up to anybody else. I call the special meeting for whatever I
want. And two council members can do the same thing. So, I will finish city business and I don't want to have to do that. And I'm very respectful people's time, and there's been a couple times I've wanted to call special meetings, but again, my focus is I'm going to get the people's work done.
Well, and that's our that's our intent all along. We have the ability to extend. And the point is is if it's important enough, we will. And if it's not, we can table it and move on. The point is is this keeps us in a guideline and a focus so that we're trying to
achieve that and we're just belaboring a point. Sure. I'll call the question. Any other comments? Public comment. See, I put a vote. All in favor signify by saying I. I. oppose. Nay. Motion carries. Next up,
we have some public hearings. Let me get back to my Okay. Item number three, which is now four. Uh first reading of ordinance number 25-732 repealing ordinance 96-768 and
providing for an effective date pass for introduction. Yeah. So uh this is the uh first step in the uh vacation of bridge street as council members from our uh discussion at the last meeting uh back
in 1996. council adopted a ordinance 96468 that uh set aside a portion of Bridge Street for pedestrian use only and kind of a public space uh concept there. And so based upon the the fact
the council was supportive of vacating that uh we need to take the first action and thinking down the next meeting. Um when you do the public hearing and do that you need to repeal this first and
then do the vacation of bridge certain and so this is the first step in that vacation. Okay. You read by title. Yes. Ordinance 25732 an ordinance for city of Port Richie Florida repealing ordinance 96468 and providing for an effective date. I
will let you know there is a typo on the second pair second whereas paragraph the very end bridge is spelled incorrectly. I will fix that before um if should this pass I'll fix that before it comes back. Okay, I'm going to open a public hearing the public back to speak. I have no signups. Show hands.
Okay. I'm going to close the public hearing and I open up council for a motion or discussion. I'll move to approve the first reading of ordinance 25-732 to repeal ordinance to 96-468. Second. Okay. Motion second for discussion. Yes. This is the area uh
known as pride of Port Richie that that green space there. Yeah. Correct. And by doing this it eliminates that park that we set aside. Right. Well, it's not park. It's a pedestrian only public
space. public space, right? And this repeals that the next one would allow that right away to be vacated, which that is part of the that become that's actually part of the right. Okay, that's what I wanted. Okay, anything else?
Okay, vote. All in favor signify by saying I I opposed. Motion carries. Next up, item number five, first reading of orders number 25-733, vacating a portion of the city's rightway on Bridge Street, providing for conditions and providing for an effective date. And it's my
understanding that there is a legal description amendment to this and I'll pass it to Mr. Copa for explanation. Yeah. So, this is the uh actual vacation of Bridge Street, Bridge Street, excuse me, the rideway on that. Um, as the mayor uh indicated as we were looking
through this again, um, we noticed that there was a reference uh to Bay View and, uh, the intent is not to, uh, vacate that that area of Bay View. Um, the applicant came forward with a
redefined um, legal description that takes out any reference to Bay View. And so this takes it directly just vacation of Bridge Street. Okay. You read by title. Okay. Okay. So I'll open the public
hearing. Is there any comments from the public? Okay. Close the public hear. Close the public hearing. I'm open up council motion or discussion. Make a motion we approve the amendment. Second stated. Okay. Motion second. And can you make a motion the motion to approve with
the amended legal description? Correct. Second. Second. Okay. Any further discussion? Yes. Now, this only addresses the roadway, the rightway. So, at this the rightway would go all the way to the water. So,
this this will be only the section because Bridge Street actually goes to the other side, right? So, this is Yeah. North side, other side river. So, everything north of the river, correct? Including that strip we just talked about. Correct. Yeah. They go from from the embankment all the way to maybe a
Okay. And with that strip that we just talked about in the previous one, that would just go away, become their property. Uh if we change the use, it would become their property, move to
the tax roles. Yep. Uh private property, people can't have access anymore. or they're predominantly I don't know if it's even we're vacating a public use right I'm not even sure it's buildable but um okay gotcha any
questions by saying I I opposed motion carries next up item number six first reading or warance number 25-734 amending chapter 36 article 5 section 36-162 and section 36-163 of the Port Richie code of vortances to modify the roadways upon which golf carts can
operate within the city and removing repetitive subsections, providing for severability, providing for convocation, and providing for an effective date. I'll pass it to Mr. Coppler for introduction there. Um, so this is based upon the uh discussion of where golf
carts can go. So this was I think uh two meetings ago last month. Uh they just almost kind of blend together anymore. Um and uh the ordinance that's attached will effectively allow golf carts to go
on any city streets as long as they meet the uh criteria set which effectively reflects what the state code says related to uh allowing golf carts on that. Um, second piece is it also again
goes back to what the state uh language is on the equipment that is required to be on set golf cart to go on those streets. Okay. So, I read my title. Good. Okay. Any public
comment? I'm going to open a public hearing. Close the public hearing. Bring back for council discussion and or motion. I just wonder is any requirement like any signage requirements or this? So the only the only requirement under the state statute is we're supposed to
put a sign up on the street where golf carts are allowed. We are. Yes. And have we looked at the cost of that? Um should be in your in your Didn't actually No, didn't think about that.
Didn't cross anybody. Not a big deal probably, but I just curious. That's going to be maybe a couple thousand dollars. Really? Yeah. We're putting these um information signs up. I will say that that you don't have that signage now on
the streets where you can drive it. You have it in some streets. But I know we don't. And that's that's one. But we're putting up these signs is like identifying way. Can we incorporate golf cart signs with those? Okay. Yeah% I mean I think that's
actually one one of the things that we addressed not the signage but one of the things we addressed with the consultant doing the safe streets for all is that we need to be thinking not just cars and trucks and pedestrians and bicycles but
also golf carts and so that that process will kind of feed into what we need to do with all the the wayfinding signage as well. So there is a requirement that we put signs on every road that golf carts. Is that correct? I don't have in front of
me here. I don't think so. My follow-up question is because like parking signs um we can't enforce it unless we put the signs up. No parking gy street even though that's an ordinance. Um, the next question I was going to ask is on our sign coming into the city, if
we were to incorporate um, all streets golf cart friendly, would that golf cart friendly area? That's not accurate because you have Ridge Road where they're not 19. Does it have to look a specific way?
There's there's no requirement exactly what it has to say. It could just be a strip that says golf posted speed. It has to be under 35. didn't say golf carts allowed or does it have to be a you know I think it just be that golf cart picture like that one
with the X to it just has not the yellow yellow sign with the golf cart okay with golf bags on the back maybe chopper do you uh do you want to come to the podium I think it's up to this guy over here
I don't know if you had some kind of signage that you guys used. Well, the chief can give a public works maybe and bring something. I think we can figure that out. So, with the Wayfair Hope Incorporated, so maybe we need to create a line item in the budget for 25
26 for signage. Yeah, that's I'm just giving Adam a heads up. Go ahead, Chris. I'm just thinking we're trying to become more golf cart friendly right now. This wayfinder thing might take some time to get rolled out. And $1,000 of the signs right now to get people driving around
having a good time in our city is probably cheap investment for us. I think we roll with this and then if we need to let them know what we've done on the way finding thing, we can let them know where we put these signs. But I think we need to get going on Sounds like a motion to approve. Is it? Yes, sir. Could you state that for me? I'll
make a motion to approve the um um line item number six as stated. Sorry. Motion second. The first discussion match. Yeah, I just I finally got the uh state statue put up. Says upon a determination that golf carts may be operated on a given
road, the department shall post appropriate signs on the road to indicate that such operation is allowed. Okay. So, chief of police have any objections to this? No. And I'm just looking at the main uniform traffic control devices and it
pretty much just says that uh as long as they're 30 by 30 and it warns motorists that there's going to be golf carts on the roads too so they know it's more for a warning for the motors. Does that indicate how how often you have to have a sign repeat? No, I would um say one
thing. It's like if you go back by and old post, you probably need one because it's one way in one way out compared to other roads where you have different progressive areas to come in. Good point. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and and conversely, if if they're not allowed, Yes. Although it
doesn't say you don't have to do that, but I think to avoid the confusion, we probably need to like where we um have the no crossing variant like that. And so, does this just to clarify, does this mean that we like Green Street, my
street, there's no sign for golf cart is golf cart friendly? Do we have to really put a golf cart sign? I think what what the chief is saying is anchor. Yes. Put it on. You're covered. Haven't done it doesn't mean you shouldn't continue. Doesn't mean you should continue to not do it if you
should do it. Right. Let's just point that out that we we haven't done that at all. Really? So, good calling. To get to Green Street, you've got to come down Bay Boulevard. So, if you just put one on statues every street, he he's saying put it beyond Old
Post and Bay. That way it's a oneway in everything but you'd need another one at the front end up by Culver. Yeah. Well, let's just let staff figure out what the signage requires to be and and do it as minimal as possible. Obviously, it's the same cost. Yep. We're good. So, any other
discussion? We got a motion. Yes, I got a couple discussions. Okay. Uh any any update on crossing 19 on the bridge? You guys were looking at that um on the bridge being a certain width. It's in old business. DOT has just approved. No,
he's talking about the bridge. Oh, the bridge. I'm sorry. No, nothing on the bridge. Okay. And then um golf cart inspections and fees. It looks like we're low on those. So, we're probably not doing them. We're not following up on that. That needs to be
addressed as well. Um, and in this section on page 27, uh, all those line items on C were struck. Is that because full order statute 316.271 addresses those things for
inspection and the seat belts and all those things. Is is is that the deal? If you look at the last paragraph of that section, it talks about equipment requirements in Florida statute 316.212, sub paragraph 6. sub paragraph.
It's now the um sub paragraph E in that section that that statute that it's referencing includes all that that's what I was wanting to know. Yeah. So if they change it it's automatically that's fine. Um and there was on the whereas cl the
last sorry the last two whereas clauses um I don't know if wording is important but um on the second to last it says within the city whose speed limit it probably be which and then this the last whereas clause it says remove duplicate language address golf cart equipment
probably should be remove duplicate language to address golf cart equipment. Do you need a amended motion for that or? Yes. No, not for that's okay. Any other first question? All in favor say five by Oh, sorry. Any public comment?
See, I bring it back for a vote. All in favor say by saying I opposed. Motion carries. Okay. Next up is item number seven. First reading of ordinance number 25-7 735 amending chapter 24 article 4
section 24-180 of the port richie code of ordinances to change the resident requirement to Pasco County providing for seven building effective date I'll pass it Mr. have for? Yes. The council discussed amending the historic preservation commission to uh resident or to allow
non-residents um to be on this board so we can get the quorum to actually meet. Uh the discussion kind of centered around having people within uh Pasco County being the ones that could fill that. So
the attached ordinance will do that. Okay. And that was good. Okay. Open public hearing. Any comments? Come and close the public hearing. Open up for motion and discussion on council. Motion for approval of the first reading of ordinance number
25-735 amending chapter 24 section 24180 rigid code of ordinances to change the residency requirement to pass account. There second. Second. Okay. Motion second. Any further
discussion? I would like to change her motion and add that the chair must be a resident to this. Uh that way we get the right direction. So I'd like to Well, we got to vote on first or
Well, you can ask amendment. Are you okay with the amendment? Yeah, I'm okay. Okay, cool. So, second minute motion is to open it up, but the chairman must be a resident of Fort Richie. Um, the only the only thing I'll add is if we can't fill it with a Port Richie
resident, then it's you're back in the same thing. But I like the I like the thought on that. Well, yeah. I'd like to have somebody from our town city. What if like you said, do we do we say then we deal with that? Unless there are no then we deal with it later. I guess we don't need a board. Okay. Goodbye. Well,
I I think you could probably word that to say if if a member is is a member of the city that has preference to chair. I mean, loss is one member of the chair. Definitely. Yeah. That would be
substantitate putting anything about pref preferring anybody over another person in the ordinance. Um, if you're going to open it up, you're opening it up. If you want to make the chair a a resident, I think that's fine. But I don't think you want to word it that way. I think that I think you want to
say it's open to um residents of um um business property in Pasco County. If you want to say the chair should be a resident of the city, I think add that. I don't think you want to put in preferences. Preferences can lead to okay people thinking not being treated fairly. And this could be open up to business owners as well. Yes. You know,
so so at least we have Anyway, we're ready. I mean we the good news is is we've got a member who is a city resident so we're not going to have immediate problem we have to but exactly so I like to say that you raised the question though when we
have when we have meetings like this with our boards of committees we have organizational meetings so chair and a vice chair um and secretary sometimes are voted upon every year how would that be worked out I mean if you only have one city resident And
is it automatic? How how how does that work? They would have to be the chair based on that boarding, right? What if they don't want that's what he pointed out? I think you're I think you're putting yourself back in the same position you're already in that you may have a resident that doesn't have the ability or the desire to be the lead for
the chair and you're not going to have the form again. I think that's going to create that problem. You know, just this particular committee is just about the history, preserving the history. I don't know that there's a lot of directional things that I mean I
get your point. Yeah. So maybe from this perspective maybe we take that out res or resident business owner right now resides who resides or owns businesses or real property but then pass and obviously we're the ones that put
the members on the board right so and you know obviously somebody comes up we can I guess we can make a preference if it's if they're a city resident to give from our the way we Right. Can we go with it and see how it goes? Huh? Can we go with it and see how
it goes? See if it does. It's not working the way it is. Right. Exactly. Yeah. So, do you want to open it up or you want to force a chair? I mean, it's it's just if we if we do that, we have to come back and address it again if it's a problem. So, well, we can't. We
absolutely can't. I'm I'm good at whatever just I'm just pointing out may cause an issue. So, we have a motion to Did she amended a motion? She has not. Oh, she has not. Started. Okay. Okay. Do we want to amend it or do we know?
That's up to you. It's here. Sorry. With the amendment that the chair is. Okay. Second. Motion. Second. Any further discussion? All in favor? I've already had public comments for the hearing. So, I gave extra last time. So, all in favor
signify by saying I. I opposed. Motion carries. Okay. Next up, council business item number eight, appointment of Matt Douglas to the Historical Preservation Commission. So, we almost have two. Now, we're going to have two possibly. So, I will introduction. Why isn't he here?
He's just had an operation. Yeah, he just had surgery. Back surgery. He had back surgery yesterday. The Historic Preservation Commission currently has one active member. Member Matt Douglas has requested to join the committee and assist in bringing more members to establish a full forum to
hold future meetings. Still have a little work to do, but this gets closer. Okay. Motion discussion on that. Motion to approve Matt Douglas to the Historical Preservation Commission. Motion second.
Any further discussion? Any public comment? Seeing none, all in favor signify by saying I. I opposed. Motion carries unanimously. Unanimously. Item number nine, criminal justice user agreement. I'll pass it to Mr. Cob for introduction. Um, police department is
required to enter into an agreement with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement by criminal justice user agreement terms and conditions to access and utilize criminal justice information systems. And um I was going to ask the chief on this to maybe give a little bit
more explanation on what this does and what they're referring to as criminal justice information systems. That's everything entered into the computer for NCIC people that are wanted by warrants throughout the state and uh any other information, driver's license checks,
everything like that that goes through our our crime computers. That's confidential information. And and I think the other thing real quick, um, if I'm not mistaken, it has your name as the signator for, right? Yes. So when if you decide to approve this, which I would,
um, if you could also amend that motion to include authorizing the police chief to sign this agreement, that would be perfect. Okay, motion discussion. Motion to approve.
Um, where is it? Motion to approve um letting the police chief sign the Florida Department law enforcement to access and utilize the criminal justice information. So second motion second.
Any further discussion? Yes. I noticed in this body of information there was something about license plate reader program and it's checked. No, I'm assuming we don't have one. Is that correct? We don't have one as a user. So, what
that does is it gives people that have the user the ability to access the wants and warrants files of their system inside the license plate recognition readers for the owners of the vehicles. But we're check no on that and several other ones there. Uh we don't have a license plate reader. So, if it was
checked yes, we could access it through the license plate reader. Yes. and we we have access to them through the counties, but we don't actually operate them ourselves. Right. And I'm just wondering if that could be leveraged to
somehow charge or view people parked in next park and be able to introduce that. So, that might be a future thing, but it's just something to think about. I don't think they can use that for that purpose, right? Some agencies
actually order does, but that's totally different than what we're talking about here. That only gives them the access to who owns the vehicle, uh, not actual confidential information. It's more of a public records um, license plate recognition reader rather than a
criminal one. Okay. Just, you know, for clarification and myself understanding, Tarpon Springs have license plate readers down there? Not at this time. Okay. All right. So, that's fine. Anyone else? Any public
comment? See, bring back for vote. All in favor signify by saying I. I opposed. Motion carries. Uh, next up, item number 10, approval resolution number 25-33 requiring the historical preservation commission to appoint a secretary from among his members and providing for effective date. I'll pass that to Mr.
CPler for introduction. Yes. The attached resolution establishes a new policy requiring the Historic Preservation Commission to annually elect a secretary from among its members at the same time it elects its chairperson. This action is necessary to ensure compliance with Florida Sunshine Law, which requires all meetings public
be documented with official minutes given the current workload of the city clerk. It's not feasible for her to serve as the minute taker for this advisory board. And so this resolution would require them uh much like the CAC where they they actually handle the
minutes for that to do this. Okay. open up motion discussion and I that should we put a let the vice chair in here as well or is that I'm add to ordinance that keeps you from doing I'm sorry the
vice chair because that um is that already in your ordinance? Let me see what I think it may say to pick your chair. Let me see what it says. I don't even know what it says that be honest. Right now it just says the members of
the historical preservation commission shall annually elect a chairperson of So should we have a vice chair and secretary just to clean up? Y I can add that. So, do we need to add it here or make when the motion say? That's fine. I'd
like to make a motion to to uh uh requiring the historical commission to appoint a secretary and vice chair from among its members. Okay. Is there a second? I'll second. Okay. Motion second. Any further discussion? Any public comment? See none
put. No. Yeah, I got one. Absolutely. Thanks, Danny. Is this for the the streets and stuff for the park? Is that what we're talking about here? No, this is to the historic uh commission to Okay. Well, I'll wait on that one. You're coming up. Okay. Anyone else? All right. Bring
vote. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. Motion carries. Uh let's see. Next up, item number 11, approval of resolution number 25-27, establishing adopt the street and adopt the park programs to promote community involvement in the maintenance and beautifification of public roadways
and city parks, providing for program guidelines, authorizing the city manager for designate to administer the programs and providing for an effective date. I pass that to Mr. Cop for introduction. So, at the last meeting when we brought the adopt a street program, uh, council decided to add uh, adopt a park. City attorney wanted a little bit of time to
look to see how uh, the resolution needed to be changed. So we uh effectively encapsulated that. So we have added all that necessary language into the resolution to allow for both uh adopt street as well as adopt a park.
Okay. Open up. Motion to approve. Motion to approve. Second. Motion to approve. Yeah. Approve. Motion to approve item number 11 as stated. 12. It's actually
item number 12. Resolution 25 is 31. We move to. Okay. Just approve the resolution. Adopted resolution 25-27 is the adopt street adopt park program. Okay. Second. Okay. Any further discussion? Yes.
Um in this process we need to make sure that we identify a program coordinator so that we got a single point of contact. So, I'm just bringing that up so that we know people know uh who to go to. That's part of that form, wouldn't
it, that they fill out. Well, there wasn't anybody. Could that be part of parks and recreation? Well, we don't we don't have parks and recreation. Um I have an idea of the right person to do it. I haven't sat down with that person yet. We will. Well, in in effect, we already have a program. Yeah. All we did
was expand it to include uh better process and procedure and add parks. So, whoever was doing it before may or may not be doing it now. Correct. Okay. Yeah, that's the deal. Anything else?
Any public comment? Danny, just Yeah, Danny Phils 8114 little kid. Yeah. On adopting the park and streets and stuff like that. Uh, Light of the World has helped out
before by being at Waterfront Park on Oppose Road there, 8119. And we've did stuff in there before, but we just kind of volunteered to do it. We've painted in in the previous past and stuff like that and did work like that. So, what we're doing
uh part of uh faith and family month and I know this is a monthly thing that you guys want done, right? uh on his street or orderly. Huh? Orderly. Orderly. Quarterly. Orderly. Every three months. Orally. Okay. So, uh Light of the World
uh quarterly we could uh use men's maintenance as well as the youth in our church to go out and clean the park up like pick up brush uh sticks and papers and stuff like that and just continue to
help maintain it in that way. Uh that would be something we could uh volunteer to do. We would have vests. We would have grown-ups with the teenagers and the youth to oversee it so that way they wouldn't be no uh anybody get hurt or
anything. Is that something that uh Light of the World would be willing to partner with the city to do with that park? Was there something in there about 12? Under 12. Nobody under 12. Under 12. Yeah. So, so they can't be under 12,
Danny. Okay. Under 12. So, anything above 12 we could do. And then, uh, and so, uh, we do started getting some youth and they want to be involved. And that's something that we brought up that when I take this to these meetings I have with,
uh, somebody cares and light of the world, they was like, well, we we could adopt the park and help out there. So, we want to be able to serve our city and our community. we uh get permits and use the park as well. And you notice at the
end of our events, we clean we clean it up and make it look nice because it was already nice. So, uh so we're willing to adopt that. Okay. Thanks, Danny. Yeah, our first volunteer. One of the things
u you're aware that as going through this program you're going to get signage on there indicate that this park was maintained uh by your organization right? Yes. So we could either put it under somebody cares or light of the world. So I'll let them make that
decision and then we'll notify uh you guys and public works and and then know exactly what we're supposed to do and not supposed to do. There is uh I believe included with this is the application package. Okay. That you'll need to fill out and and whatever name
you put in there is the name we'll use. Okay. Application in package is just for the adopt a road program. We need to draft and adopt park function. I thought it was in there. It's in there. Okay. I'm sorry. I didn't see it. I did do
that. Excellent. Thank you, Dan. I see it. No, that's still I see it now. Thank you. It has a manatee and everything on top. And I presented this issue to the um to the Sun Coast chapter of Salt Strong and they were interested in adopting Brasher
Park and I'm trying to get them to grab Coons Road as well. So potentially an opportunity has presented itself to grab two parks in our city and everybody benefits. I like it. Thanks.
Any further discussion? Any public comment? Seeing none, right back for a vote. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. Motion carries. Uh, now we're back on track. Item number 12, approval of resolution number 25-32 setting a policy to place a threeminut time limit on the invocation presented
at the beginning of the record city council meetings and providing for an effective date. I pass it to Mr. CP for induction. Yes, there was a conversation council to put a time limit of three minutes on the beginning invocation. The attached uh resolution does that. Okay.
I open up for a motion or discussion. [Music] Well, I'd like to make a movement to approve the resolution number 25-32 set on a policy policy to place a threeminut time limit on invocation presented at the beginning of the regular city
council meetings. Okay. Is there a second? Have motion. Second. Any further discussion? Um, I'll just say on this, I think this is u I don't have a problem with this. You
know, there's uh we had we had one instance where it happened and and then all a sudden we're jumping. I I just I want to set a precedent that we don't be reactionary on things like this just because of a one-off situation. Um, we've never had a problem that I'm aware of that that the invocations went over
three minutes. Uh but I I think it's it's fine to have the guideline in place. So for the so people know going in. Any discussion? Any public comment? Huh? Throw that guy out. Right. Back for a vote. All in favor
signify by saying I oppose. Nay. Nay. Motion carries. Um, next up is number 13. City Hall Police Department, Fire Department, utility trailer, trailer, water plant, water plant, network switch, device, infrastructure replacement. It's a mouthful. I'll pass
it to Mr. C for introduction. So, um, as, uh, council's aware, uh, we, uh, budgeted money to redo the cabling within the, uh, the city, uh, hall, police department, and and the campus we
have here. As part of that uh it became clear as well as a failure of one of our switches that we needed to take some action to replace those to keep the infrastructure for our network uh IT
network strong and viable. Um at that point uh the the IT and operations brought forward a proposal to me to uh replace a number of the switches that will then uh get us up and running again
and have backup at the same time uh should we have any more switch failures in the future. So I don't know S if you want to say anything related to this or you want George to come up and say anything additional. Um for the majority most of our um
network switches are either past end of life or at end of life now um six out of eight of them. So it's you know with with doing the infrastructure work that we've already done doing this next step just follows along with that changing the cabling and then of course we
discovered that you know the network switches were um you know past end of life. Um so this is the next step going forward. So we would like to to move forward and do that before the before the final step of the cabling where we
shut each department down and you know interconnect everything. We want to replace these switches when we do that. Okay. And and one last thing with this um we are uh looking to utilize money in penny in building maintenance. And in
that line item there were two uh two projects that uh after checking and looking at those one is the replacement of u a air conditioning unit for the police department and then the other is the fuel tank replacement for the
generator. Uh both those we were able to fix the fuel tank so we didn't need to replace it. So it meets the code and we didn't need to replace the uh air cooling unit for the uh police department. So there's between those two
about $37,000 available in that line. Very good. Okay. Open up motion discussion. Well, on that. So, I u make a motion uh to move to approve the network switch device infrastructure replacement for
the city hall and police department by Delta Technologies through Ruckus for $20,880.72. Second. Okay. M second. Any fur discussion? Go ahead. Uh yeah, I was looking at the uh line
items on the I guess penny for Pasco the 117 account and there's a line item in there for building maintenance. Uh to my knowledge, I did not think we were allowed to incur m or uh operating
expenditures for penny for Pascal. They had to be capital expenditures that had a useful life greater than five years. this. So for us, and I'm just looking at stuff with third eye.
Okay, we should call that building capital projects or whatever that line item. Maybe it's bad terminology. Um, but if we're going to walk and talk Yeah. in alignment with what they want to do. These are the kind
of things that trigger red flags for you know who the guys with the black hats, right? So, um it's just an observation. Um and then the other observation is all this stuff that we've appropriated $865,000. Um we need to take a look at
what what some of these things were defined. We're halfway through the year. we should have been uh deploying this rather than not deploying. So, we've wasted opportunity with deploying capital. I understand that we've been
going through uh hurricane remediation and stuff. So, maybe it's time to refocus, rescope this and take a look at uh those things that were underrunning on our capital spends and try to get these uh assets deployed so that people
can be more effective. Okay, that's all this is an observation. Yeah, and this is this a really good thing. I have IT background and you know this is uh this is your is your arteries, right, to move information around and obviously we go more digital is it's paramount and there's no amount
of good cable that's going to put out there if that goes to a bad switch. So, um it's necessary part of the the infrastructure. um wasn't budgeted, but my understanding I asked a question was that um we've got some stuff that was budgeted that we're not going to be moving forward with. So, I just tit for tat here. So, I think it's a good thing.
I think it's going to pull us in the right direction. Any public comment? Seeing none, I put to a vote. All in favor signify by saying I opposed. Motion carries. Next up, item number 14, fire department request to offer classes at the fire station. I pass it to Mr. Cobic for induction. Yeah. So, this is
one of those things where, you know, there's a good idea, but because of of, you know, unintended consequences, you want to make sure that everyone is aware of it before it moves forward. Um, and so at one point in the recent past, the
fire chief uh stepped forward and said that uh you know, he wanted to have certain training at the fire department um for free for our our firefighters, training that they need um to be better firefighters for our residents. And
they're going to open it up for other departments also to fill those seats that would be available in those trainings. Um now those those departments would be charged and you know if I left it there you would not have any questions why I would bring
want to bring it forward but the next piece of this is that that the company doing the training is the company that is owned by the fire chief. Now um we've kind of reviewed this gave it over to the city attorney. she looked at it uh
um you know from her perspective uh I think and I don't want to speak for her but I'm trying to um you know there there really isn't any legal reason why you can't do this but my experience has told me that people misinterpret what
happens and perceive things in a way that that you know puts our reputation uh at risk and and could you know hurt our employees as well. Um, and but at the same time, you know, I think that
this is something that, you know, I wouldn't have a problem going forward with and in other areas, other communities have done similar things, but first bringing it to the council to make sure that you're comfortable with doing this.
Um, so everything is in the light and no one, you know, can say that we weren't notified of what was going to happen because at some point is potential you get that call and say, "Hey, did you know this?" Um, so I'm trying to prevent that from happening. But from from I
think the legal perspective, and again, I'll defer to the city attorney on this, I don't think there's anything that prohibits what is being proposed. And there is a benefit to the city in doing this. I didn't find anything specifically that would prohibit um this happening. I will
say that I agree that there is a um obviously there can be a perception of an impropriety um because police chief the fire chief obviously will will personally benefit from this and he is using city property to do so. Um I don't
like the appearance of it. I don't like how it looks but I can't say if it legally ne necessarily will cause a problem. And of course, I'm always worried about liability, which you guys hear me talk about all the time, but you can address that through paperwork. And I know that this company does have insurance. We talked about that, J. So, and I and I get all that. I I I see
the benefit here. the would if it was more than just the free training for our fire folks and there was a a rental fee for the facility would that help? I think I think from my
perspective it would I think for me the the where the appearance of impropriety would come up would be that your fire chief will be teaching on his off days. He's not being paid by the city those days, but he is going to benefit
monetarily, right? That's that's where it will look like he is using his position as a chief of of the fire department to gain money and a different and and I I think you could you could make the argument
that giving giving our firefighters that free training is that that tradeoff of a rental fee. Right. So, I mean, I think what you're where you're kind of going with that, it kind of is naturally happening where you don't have to say,
"Oh, you have to pay us money." Well, he's foregoing money that would be if, you know, if he was doing this at a a remote location somewhere. Um, and so our cost for those firefighters is the use of our facility and our equipment, right? But we don't know our cost. We
don't know the charge. I would like to see this arms length transaction. In other words, re record record the fees that are being charged for the use of facility and the fees charged for the training that we're getting. That way
it's totally out in the open and there's no discussion. We can make the decision if it's hey is if it's a win on our side. I don't like not recording the transaction. And I think what that does, this particular arrangement has the
ability to okay, we're not we're just going to turn the other way and not look at it. But if you put it all down and we charge or set up an agreement to charge X dollars for the use of the facility and specify the guidelines and in
exchange, we also are incurring this training already uh with an outside party. Um, aren't we? With who has anybody else offered to come in? These guys are getting they're getting trained. They're getting trained today. I'm assuming,
right? I mean, what's up? Everybody's been waiting for this. But what happens is if you want to take a class right now, you got to take a week off. You got to drive to Cali. You got to stay in a dorm. The city could be paying for the hotel, the travel, the overtime, the class, the books. The city pays for all of that.
This happened because Pasco County and PHSC got into a fight. Make a long story short. They got into an argument and the sheriff started all of it and whatever. He got mad at him and and I I I had multiple meetings with the college. I was an instructor at the college and multiple meetings with the college and
the county and like you two niche need to get along. At the end of the day, we're suffering. You guys got people you need promoted and people need classes for reertifications. So, I got mad and I'm like, listen, you I I really don't need you and I really don't need you. You know what I mean? I'm a state
certified instructor. the college has to accept the the credentials and if the kid wants to pay for the um uh college credits, they have to accept it. That the county has to accept it or the fire department has to accept it because I'm a state certified instructor and it's this the requirements that people need
to to move on. That's how it all started. Um so at the end of the day, the problem was there has to be a way to pay the instructors, right? So there has to be a way to pay the instructors. So I had to formulate a business to formulate to to become certified as a training
center in the state size and then have a credentialed instructors so we could charge outline people that come into our classroom. That the fee that money pays the instructors and pays for the liability insurance and all the city employees are free. So you're not paying
travel, you're not paying hotel, you're not paying class, you know, uh uh fees, none of that. But we're paying that today. If we our people to get a train, they got to go out and do that now. Right now that this this changes that
Listen, I don't want any more work. I don't want any more work. But when I started doing this in the county, the college got upset because now the college still has to accept it. But they're they're not making any money. College wasn't anymore. all they're doing is paying for the the um uh the
credits. The county wound up absolutely loving this program because the amount of money that they were saving in the whole process, but you know, at the end of the day, it's me and other instructors that are will be teaching the classes just when I teach. If it's a Tuesday, I I take a vacation day. Other than that, I teach at nights or weekends
when I'm off. But it's a it's a burden for me without a doubt. But I it's it's a win-win for the city and for its employees. So, and we just wanted full transparency. No, I don't like walking in gray areas. It just is what it is. You guys don't like it, you don't like
it, wash your hands and continue what what we're doing. How often does this training occur? Is it once somebody trains? Is it good for so many years? It all depends. I mean, uh, every new guy needs a pump class, a hydraulics class, and and an aerial class just to just to
be uh accredited by by the state. You're certified by the state as a and you had driver engineer. Uh uh all of our inspectors need reertification every couple of years. So they need 45-hour class every couple of years. All of the firefighters and drivers need classes
that you know officer one officer two requirements which is a series of five to seven classes that they have to take and then a state test to become officer one certified or officer one trained and then officer two trained. Officer one they could be a write up officer officer two trained they could become a captain.
So it's just all of that process. So, it's definitely ongoing. I've been doing it at the county for 20 years. The city of Newport Richie, uh, uh, Dunaton, uh, Brooksville, Hernando, I go in there, they they'll
call me, "Hey, Gary, we need a class. We, you know, we're about to have a promotional process and we're short, you know, four four captains or lieutenants, but we need a class. All right, go over there and offer it to their people free." And then anybody outside that comes in pays including I guess our
staff. So if you're if you're putting on a class in tarpon okay you let tarpon tarpon for free. Yesing agency gets the free the the free and so if we would send somebody we'd pay for that even though you were teaching it. Yes without a doubt. So is there so do we have any kind of numbers
that for from a training perspective what we spend per year on these kind of classes? No. No idea. They everybody's been holding off waiting for this opportunity. Well, but it's soon they're gonna have to I don't want to jump in for fun. Go ahead. There's more here. And I see
where Gary's going with this. There's more here. Got to be gentle with it. I should know that by now, right? There's more here than meets the eye. If we open up our fireh hall as the training center, you're bringing all
kinds of qualified people into our city, which is awesome. Giving you all kinds of big eyes. I mean, I do this as well. I train and I It brings in all kinds of leaders and you get a chance to like, hey, what about you and what about you? Puts us on the map. It puts us on the
map. It gives us incredible u you know, clout, you know, countywide. So, I'm all for it. If it became an issue, obviously we could deal with it, but I'm all for it. I think the fact we're going to get our guys trained and they don't have to travel is a win-win situation for everybody. I think we're lucky as hell
to have Gary here in that opportunity. Now, now he mentioned something here. He says the sponsoring organization that's teaching allows their people to attend for free, right? They get Yeah, they get the free slots. Okay. So, so this would be the sponsoring organization. So, or
anything that we hold here. And this is where I was trying to draw the line. Here we have an organization and I'm assuming you got the space there to train people, right? Okay. So, if we're having a class, he's teaching, our
people get a train for free. But what if he's teaching others outside of our folks? There needs to be associated charge for the room, right? So there has to be there has to be some
recognition that you don't get it anything that's an unrecorded transaction trying to avoid that. So we'd have to put some parameters around that so that everything in the transaction does get recorded and reflected appropriately otherwise you
have these turn the the potential could exist if somebody says hey you're really not uh doing everything in the light. Yeah. And if I could add to that because that's exactly where I was going and the two questions I'd have.
One, would that limit access to fire company XYZ from be able to use our facility to have a training class? Right. That that's an outside party. Yeah. Because it means it's a he's some other instructor. Yeah. Some other instructor said your competitor whoever
there is, right? They want to offer a class and they want to do it here in Port Richie because it's central to all the fire station that they're going to do it. Very few if any again now, you know, two years from now maybe different, right? So there is one crew to fort that's the uh you'll see them
down a lot. Yeah. Sometimes they'll they'll try to put on a a a class. They'll use they'll use their fire truck and they'll try to put on a class and they'll try to find somebody that'll offer them a classroom. They bring the equipment. They just need the classroom to sit down. And honestly, you couldn't deny them the bill if they wanted to
come and do that. Why would you? I get that. So, let me let me preface this is I I see the value in this. I completely but but I want to protect either protect the city and she's unfortunately rubbed off on me quite a
bit and and this this seems to me like an ethics complaint waiting to happen. And so I was going to I was going to bring up the the second part of my question was would it would it behoove us to submit a question to the ethics commission to opine on this before we made a decision. I I truly don't know
how long that process takes. Yeah, probably six months less might be the other issue. And then my second question is is if if we if we approve this, does that then absolve that ethics thing? Because actually we've we've ordained it from a council perspective.
Well, so I don't I don't think it's by law and ethics violation based on my research. So, I'll start there. Um, I think it's an appearance. I want to make talk. We want to make sure everyone understands everyone knows what's going on. This is why it's it's
happening or not happening. Um, if there is an ethics violation, it's still an ethics violation. Even if you say go ahead and do it, right? That doesn't change that. But I don't I don't think it is. I just the concern was the appearance and the other half of that being we need to make sure others come
and ask we want to use your facilities which I know he's you know as long as liability is addressed need to let them do that you don't want to I think the appearance is even worse if like oh no only only only our to do that and that would be the case obviously but I think we'd need to have some kind of
agreement waivers stand for this the liability we can address but but I would I would think that we'd want to did you want to say something Chris, I do, but I'm trying not to cut you guys off. Go ahead, Chris. Yeah, we like to hear. This is a classic case of
a great idea that's just taped to the ground with duct tape till you kill it and just goes away. This is a classic. We're We're all I love the attorney, but you know what? She can come up with 50 different reasons why this is a bad idea right now. Only have one. Give her some credit. And now she's she's convinced
the mayor on the ethics thing. And if you don't think that the seven county attorneys didn't have a question about it too, the Pasco County will actually pay their employees to come to my classes and reimburse them for it. It's a no-brainer. I agree. I just I
just want to make sure we cover the bases, keep everybody at all. I agree. And getting our people trained is why the police department does it, too. I think it's a great idea and I agree with her. It's bad optics. Simple as that.
But to that extent, if we put guard rails around the things that are the bad optics and address it with a bulletproof process, potentially you're going to have to, you
know, come up with, you know, process with Adam and city manager how how that how that would look. And and let's assume you got two things. If you're training our guys, you're training somebody else. If you're training our
guys um in our facility, that's a wash. Everything's free. That's a wash. But you still need to account for both pieces. If you're training external to our workforce in our facility, then there should be a
charge for the use of the room. Well, those are the ones that pay. That's that's what pays to be there. They pay you. Nobody will do it for free. and you pay us for the use of the room. And that's what needs to be basically defined. What What is that? I I don't have enough. So if your employees are in
there, do we still got to pay for the room? If your employees are in there getting the education free, the class free, the books free. I I don't say it. I would say that's what I'm saying. I would say that that's why it worked everywhere else. Round n round numbers. You you charge a th000 for the room and
you're charging a a th000 for the employees. It's a wash, but you still need to record the transaction as opposed to not recording. Yeah. And if there's none of our, let's say you put on a class right here and there's none of our employees in it, then we charge you a thousand for the room. Well,
whatever we agree upon, right? Right. Go ahead. Well, you're backing you're backing into a number though, doing that. You're not I mean, I know what you're trying to achieve and I've been sitting here being quiet listening to that, right? I don't know any of the facts. I'm just throwing out just, you
know, we're we would so the way in in kind of implementing what you're saying, what we would do is we would establish here's an equipment rental charge, right? Right. Here's a room rental charge. Right. The equipment's easy because we can just go to FEMA or the state and see whatever that piece of
equipment is and we can easily come up with that hourly hourly rate for the building. We'd have to, you know, do some square footed. Yeah, we do some, you know, witchcraft to come up with that number. Um, but that number may not
equal what the savings is by those employees because I'm not even sure how many employees we're going to have doing the training. Let's say it's six. And and you do that, there's there's usually an imbalance in that because our cost per hour for that is going to be a lot
less than what you get charged by an outside firm anyways. And so it's it's not going to be a direct, you know, it's not Yeah. not going to wash out. I get that. And so it it could either come out to be plus or you know, the company is is getting more money or the city's
getting more out of it, but it's not going to be perfect. So if what you're saying is you just want to be able to see the numbers, that's that's one thing. But if it if if and what my concern was when I said backing into the numbers, if the numbers had to be equal, they don't then then that would be an issue because I
don't think I mean there would be a lot of voodoo with that, right? Um, but I don't think that was the intent of his that's what that's why I wanted to clarify what he was saying because no he may one time in other words would be determined independently like it's $75
for a class per head and it's $1,000 for the room and if you only have you know 10 people that's 750 you know the delta is on our 250 we owe you guys. So, but there would be a check written 1,000 one
way and 750 the other as opposed to 250. You don't want to net the transaction. You want to show it all. What? That's full accounting. Full disclosure. Wait, wait. So, you're saying that you would turn around and write a check to me? No. Yes. We would write a check to you like
that. for the for the services rendered for 7 for 750 and you'd write a check to us for a th000 for use of the room. I just pick number it'd be better if we paid you to put the glasses on and then you made
money for the we're doing. No, it's it's a separate company. He's making the money. We're in that case. If we're if we're training our employees, we probably would not charge for the room. I mean, those are the kinds of things you got to work out. Well, that's no problem. Yeah. Hey,
Jerry's been doing years. Just Yeah, I I've been doing it the way I've been doing it for 20 years. I I don't want it. Listen, like I said, it's a headache for me. The whole process is a headache for me. It's nothing but more work. I got to log in the states, organize classes, make sure people show up. If they don't show up, do we have enough to pay the instructors? And it's it's
nothing but work for me. you can pick and choose. It works and and it it's it's a it's a huge benefit to our employees because they're not traveling all over the place to get these classes that they need and that we're we're asking him to have and these credentials that we want them to seek and it's just
a huge benefit. But I we wanted this me and the boss man talked several times and it took me a while to drag him here and he did it on his last day on purpose. I think just just throwing that out there, sir. I got a key sense for the obvious, but I if like I said, if
you're uncomfortable with it, it's okay. It's okay. I think we just need to work out the I think what what I'm hearing is is that everybody thinks it's a great idea, it could really be beneficial. Um the attorney, while optics has it has a
place, there's nothing that's going to be wrong with it from a law perspective, I think that's probably enough information for us to ask. You don't you want a motion or you just want a consensus? We should always make a motion. I want to make a motion. We allow uh Gary to do what he does best. He's been doing it for 20 years. He's
going to educate our people best and he's going to make our city great again. So my motion is for that. Okay. Motion to second. Any further discussion? Well, I just want you don't have to take anybody. You can pick and choose who you train, right? Okay. There you go. That's
the nice thing about being your own Absolutely. Okay. Yeah. And the only thing I'd want to say is make sure that we put enough framework around this thing to make it make it easy to administer and ensure that we've got full disclosure and full account. You
know that my only focus is just to make sure that they're getting the classes that they need and I don't want to do any more or any less. Like I said, I'm retired. I don't want to I'm not here to kill I'm not here to kill myself. But no, I I get it. But but the fire chief
doesn't record the money and uh Adam train for free. So the process needs to be defined. Adam's over there typing up the ethics complaint right now. Yeah. I got to cut checks, take checks, find out how to input money, get out
money. Any you don't have to do nothing. Nothing. Any public any public comment? Seeing none, I bring back for a vote. All in favor signify by saying I. Opposed. Motion carries. Uh, next up is item number 15, discussion of old business. Is there any old business? If
I could real quick, one thing I want to add. Uh, we did get a date for the uh, resurfacing or milling resurfacing Bay Boulevard. It is scheduled for June 2nd. And so we'll be
deploying signs here very shortly. Got a lot of emails going back and forth on that. And we're actually I was just back and forth with them right now. Yeah. So, well, hopefully the signs will be up tomorrow. I'm still concerned about proper notifications, so they're going to get back to us. You know, I I
kind of wanted a little more time, but they really want to push on the second. Um, I think that between that they have the sign boards up by noon tomorrow um with the media blast of, you know, our Facebook website and everything and, you know, mass notification to get it out
there. I don't think we'll have we'll have any issues. So, but uh I'm waiting for them to confirm for tomorrow. And the it will be as far as impeding traffic where during daytime, during night time.
What's the This is daytime deployment. So, they're going to most of their work is going to be done, you know, just one side of the road at a time. If they can always be a lane open, there'll either be a lane open or or a detour. We have some areas throughout the city, you know, throughout Big Boulevard that you
can detour. So like the se the segment of Miller Bay, right? Right. You can go around Miller Bay while they're doing that complete section, right? So long story short, the logistics in place that there's always a way to drive. Yeah. They're not going to know. They will not be blocking traffic 100%. They'll always
have to let lane free. Sounds good. And what part of Bay Boulevard are they doing from where to where? All of it. All of it. From all the way down to all the way down. All the way to San to to Channel Drive. all the way down to channel from Wilkin from where they've stopped on the corner of Wilkins and Bay
right all the way to channel. Are they going to start on the front or the back end? That I don't know. I I'll find out for sure. Okay. They may they may spread it out into different sections all depending on on flux of traffic and
other concerns. it they're probably I'm going to guess they're probably going to be spending a lot more time on that section between Wilkins and Old Post because they have to do a little bit deeper uh pedaly. So I don't know if that'll be first or
last thing they do but yeah any other old business can I update on real quick? So, I know we have some new council members and some that were involved before, but um we're about to
pull the trigger for the first time in the history of the Port Ge Fire Department to provide advanced life support services. We've always had EMTs out there doing what EMTs do, but my goal was to push us to the next level. And uh so we got some guys, you know, trained as paramedics, state certified
as paramedics. We bought the drugs. We got the doctor on board. He's got bought all the, you know, you guys saw that, you know, the heart monitors and all the things that we need to to to go with that. It's a matter of a state inspection. We're finalizing an insurance issue for um our medical
director and uh I say within the next couple of weeks, um I'll make sure everybody knows when we do it because it's it's a you know, we won't be advanced life support all the time. We're not going to mandate that. It's a big expense. But when paramedics are on duty, I just wanted you to know that this long fight, it's been going on for
44 years. I've been here almost the five years I've been here and we're finally there. So, wow. Good job. [Music] Any other business? Well, I just wanted to uh thank Mr. Butterfield for offering
his services here helping us with this transition. And I was just that being said, I'm anxious to be working with you. We'll get together tomorrow a little bit and uh moving forward uh we hire a head hunter for the new permanent
city manager yet. I'd like to see if Matt can start that process before I think he's already got quotes. We do have three quotes. We can put it on the next agenda. All right. He won't be here in the next agenda though, will he? But he will. All
right then. Good. All right. Um yes. Next park uh we were looking into you know fees charging for that and all that. Anything new happening there? No. I will say that
um public works is looking at doing repairs to the dock. Just put your dock or some potholes to the ramp where we have some potholes. Um, in doing that, it could take the ramp down for a couple of days. So, just be prepared for that.
I know they're they're putting together what has to happen. Um, I think they originally were trying to do it overnight, but I what I had said is if you're going to do it, do it right. If you have to give it more cure time, they actually are getting the equipment to uh
to basically coffer dam off the area where they need to fix it. Okay? And it may need to set a little bit longer. So it's done right because it just you know why do it and then you know not cure properly and you're back where you started. So no I get that is that where
the drop off is where yeah it does that's exactly where it's at. Yeah, we need that fixed. Yeah. Um good plan. As long as it's after tomorrow, right? Uh yeah, it's not going to happen tomorrow. Good. Got to get going. Get the mayor's got to get his
boat out tomorrow. He's got problems. Okay. I've got lots of problems. Um any other old business? Could happen tomorrow night though. That's fine. Did that the plans get turned in for the US 19 grand intersection? Yeah, they uh they turned it on the 23. They got they
got I didn't hear if they got it in before the end of the week, but that was what the plan was to get it in there. Um, and again, just just based upon, you know, the what they did is huge because they're not arguing over the timing of
the light or the placement of the light and that would have been the first thing they apply. Um, so I think it's a good a good omen that this would get approved. Very good. Good. That'll help a lot. Yeah. Um, just a reminder on the hunt
anniversary and the time capsule that deadline is tomorrow to get your stuff in and I know uh most of us including me have not given that stuff to SAS for to be put in time capsule. Um, I'm going to work on my letter and stuff. I got the
stuff I'm going to put in there. I don't know where you guys are at. Is that um Do you guys plan on putting something in? I'm going to put something in there. Okay. All this I already done. Okay. I have a couple things I'm going to bring in the morning. Yes, sir. Is there any
just on the date we're doing that on Friday? Is it Can we go ahead and use the 29th to have it in before closing business 29th? That's fine. That's okay. Okay. I don't know if you need extra time, whatever,
but just to give just a I'm just trying to allow And there's not going to be a ceremony, right? There's not be a ceremony. Yeah. Not going to be a ceremony. Well, no, because we've already passed the deadline and we're trying to keep it kind of low key so we can, you know, get it in the ground and we already have a plaque made for the
18th time capsule says the 18th. So, trying to get it in there and ready. So, it's going on the ground sometime 30th. So, if you don't have your stuff on the 29th, it's not going in time. The big difference between the past 100 years and the next hundred years, there's a huge technology change, right? They can
see everything in 100 years from now, but we didn't see. It should make it easier on what you put in there. So, so it's not a big sticker there. Somebody needs to put a thumb drive in there. Yeah, they might not be able to read it. Um, any other old business? Okay, moving on to the last part is our
comments from mayor and city council. I'll start with vice mayor. Mayor, vice mayor. Mayor, I have 25 minutes to talk. I'll have you now. Looks like 26. No, no, no, no. I'm taking my
25. I'm just kidding. All right. Listen. We've been talking about this for a while and I'd like us to really look hard at this and I'd like your help to do this. We need to be able to have boat covers on these boats out here. These boats are getting smoked and right now there's uh the Florida Department of Environmental Protection governs this
and uh and allows private residential dock owners to install lift covers over their boats. But right now, Pasco does not allow that. So, we need to look into, you know, right now the Pasco uh it says here the Pasco uh county commissioners are getting ready to vote
on this in June, early June. So, this is not at the same time. It's planning. This will be coming soon. Okay. It's already in the works. So, are we all on the same page? Well, a couple things about that this and and and I think that I would like to have one on mine because
you're right. But the reason Pasco County did have them and reason they got rid of them is because storm came and lifted them off and damaged the neighbor's house and it affected the insurance in a lot of communities where these things were getting ripped off because of storms coming up and that's
why they they stopped having it up because people were complaining about the people didn't have boats complaining about the people had boats with the covers. So um that's just something that needed to be addressed I think. I don't know what the stats are but they were not they were ugly. That's why they eliminated them. Yeah. I mean, a
responsible person should be taking that thing down before a hurricane. Yeah. And again, we don't need to talk about now. It's going to come to us on agenda item. Okay. Right. There's something to think about. It's already It's already in the works. Well, I'm all for it. One one other thing,
um, I discovered talking to some staff and just during my, you know, general talking, um, our staff is not up to speed on AI and what the abilities of AI are. And I think that we're losing productivity internally, dumping huge piles of stuff on people's desks that
could literally be programmed into AI that could go through it, come up with with I think we should think about, this would be something for Andy. I think we should think about training inhouse our staff on how to use AI properly because it allow them to do their job better and a lot of them don't I just recently learned how to do it and and I I think
there's a lot more to it than what I think. So I think we should think about training our staff internally and that's for you Andy. Yes, sir. And that's all I got. So that's only two things. Like you got you got some slack.
I'm all good. I just got comfy in my seat. Councilman Hover ordered the popcorn now. I'm good. Council Mueller. Uh I'm going to try to beat his two minutes. Um grants. Um, there was a FEA grant that I sent to
Matt regarding fiscal 2425 uh SAFER and FP grant. I believe it was for fire department. Safer. Uh, is that right? Safer. Safer. Yeah. Are you aware of that? Yes. Okay. You guys are working that. Good. Good job. You are open your
checkbook. Yeah. You guys, you guys are gonna be because that grant is due July. July. It's It's actually due July 3rd. Yes. So, gives us one month. Four. Yeah. No. No. It gives you two weeks. Yeah. Really? Yeah. You're right. You don't
want to plan on the end date. You want to plan on the start date. So, hey. Um, I did like what I saw with the 100 years celebration and you guys did an
awesome job. Uh, I'm sad that because of the hurricane, I believe a lot of residents that were here aren't here to participate, but who uh the people that were here really uh really enjoyed that.
I got a lot of feedback. Um, great job. fireworks are out off the chart. Uh we need to consider that company again. Um we got our money's worth. Um everybody that I spoke with
said is the best fireworks show they've ever seen. They even heard the booms and stuff up in Hudson. Um so that was great. And I believe looking at the the events that we had, focusing on those that were
successful. Um, as you guys do your analysis there, the car show um maybe a mayor's ball or an annual Port Richie ball, something some kind of themed ball. I thought the 1925
era was phenomenal. I mean, we could look at doing different things. uh uh masquerade any anything I I think something like that is a great community builder and I think it's good. Um also where are we at on the 2526
budget? Have we begun that and are things getting circled through the departments and coming up with things there? Good. Um, and I'd like to thank Matt for doing a fabulous job keeping us centered,
keeping us focused, uh, bringing us, reigning us in when we get off the chain. And, uh, we're going to miss him. You've really set the bar high for this community. And, uh, potentially all future city managers are going to have to walk in your
shoes. And, uh, it was a job well done. Thank you very much. We keep trying to make you cry, but it's not working. I've been told that. Well, I'll concur just what Dave said in public. I've heard a lot of people have complimented fire department and police
department. They're very proud of the city for for what they've been doing and and how they've held themselves the past couple months especially. But yeah, they it's honor to be part of this city actually.
Yeah, that that's good. Okay. Um and obviously as a segue to mine, it was uh you know again like I think I said earlier if not I had the meeting with the centennial committee earlier so I'm not sure what I'm repeating or what not but uh we put on great events and it was befitting of our 100redy year
celebration. I was a little sad that we didn't have participation from the public in some of them. Um but would you know we did put on some some some nice events and uh and I'm glad that at least some of the public took took part of that. I want to specifically thank um not only the committee um the council
support but obviously staff um that that gave their time to to help make those successful. Um I know S specifically um was out uh after after the car show for example picking up himself the the the barricades and all that. I stayed and
helped him with that. Um, but you know, there's just there's there's countless amount of work that goes into those events behind the scenes after everybody's, you know, grabbed their burger and their slushy and went home, saw all the cars, there's a lot of cleanup and all that and staff really
preparing to park before um the events over the weekend. So, hands off, hats off to you guys for for uh all your support and doing that. fire department, police officer for for helping with the parades and and it just everybody um did a great job and um we all should be
proud that uh we did ourselves justice for this 100 year anniversary. So um and like you said going on I I do want to see those events like I mentioned earlier about putting that that committee together. Um, the one of the things that I didn't
touch on, we talked about the uh um the charitable stuff that we did with the raffle uh the dunk tank and raffle dump tank and there was u baskets. Well, it was a raffle. I
think it was a raffle and dunk tank. We through those two things we raised um just under $1,500 give or take. I think it was 12A was getting picked up from from the chamber and then there was another 175 in credit card transaction at the ball. So and that's going to be
split between five charities. The um $108 on the dunk tank alone if the numbers were right. So um I think those are all you I think I had a majority of that. I think you guys dunked 108 times. No, you guys would
help out. I appreciate that. Brings up a subject that we were talking about as far as the uh the whiskey with the name on it. So, I'm getting to that. Okay, give me a second. And so, that's going to be distributed.
And what um one of the reasons that we had an issue in the chamber/ Mcdonald school business which is the 501c3 arm of that um is distributing that is we don't have a process in place for the city to
uh give charitable donations. We need to have a process in place where um we decide we're going to do something for charity, whether it be a charity mayor's ball for holidays or or whatever or another raffle, what have you. Um where we announce that those those entities
are able to apply sim like a bid process and then we would pick which one or ones we want to donate to. So I think we need to put that in place going forward so that we we don't have to have this um money changing hands other places to support the charities. We want to we want to have some kind of process in
place to to do that. Any objections to putting that together? I just wanted to know can I comment on that? Uh give me a second. I'll come back to you. Um so that and then the centennial rum
that we we talked about and authorized just to give you an update on that. So the label's been finalized and sent to the um the government entities to approve. I anticipate that being approved. It went back a couple times with some small changes. So, that's done. We had a mockup at the at the
ball. We had around 57 58 people that signed up as interested in that that 100 bottles. Um, last meeting we talked about that Nancy obviously want that money coming into the city for that and that and we had some public comment from uh from some folks and I after I left
here I I I had uh an epiphany if you will um that I thought you know we're not really looking to make money on that is we want a momento whatever and I think it would be a great idea to take the proceeds of that 100 bottles and to apply that to
a substance abuse or alcohol abuse entity so that as we get that that money goes back into fighting the very things that it could cause kind of a an odd way to think of it I think but um not really well I mean for some you're actually
going to do something you're going to sell a bottle of alcohol to support uh doing away with alcohol abuse people do it all the time exactly and that's and that's why you've got the taxes and stuff that are so high on top because those government programs are put in place to do that so I think it's a great
idea gives us something in city to to have as a momento and it it supports a good cause to do that. And that being said, um and when I've talked about it tonight, but I after this this goes through and successful, I want to bring it back and see about if we remove the
limited from it um and make it, you know, an ongoing product that a portion of those proceeds continue to funnel to those that entity uh to fight that and it could be in our local bars and whatnot and be kind of a neat thing for the city. So, I want to talk about that. Do that, huh? Yeah. So, so that's
because I thought they were doing that all at on cost. Well, so that the pricing structure would be different going forward obviously there would and so and it would be we'd be all hands off. It just it' go through local distribution. It'd be out the bars could purchase it through their things. It would just be something that when you go
to catches, uh, you can see our our Centennial Rum on the on the shelf and be kind of a an icon, like I said, and all the proceeds that would be worked into that would go towards, uh, supporting substance abuse, alcohol abuse, but it' be the second edition, not the It would be. It would be the
just regular wouldn't be our our edition. The the one the No, so let just so you know, be another run. Yes, another run. Same same thing, but the the 100 bottles and they're specifically they say limited centennial edition. They're going to have one of 100, two of
100, right? Three of 100 and they'll be marked off at I'm going to sign the the thing. And so that's just a limited run for that. I want number one. There's a couple organizations I think that would work well very locally that would that would could use benefit from I want to get the thing in place to so
we can look at that so we we don't have to see what Danny has to say. Right. Danny, you want me comment real quick? Name's Danny Fields. Address is 814 Leo Kid. Uh you heard uh that you
got people on both sides of the fence on that. So, the main thing is we want to be able to recognize and promote things that would would uh encourage family and fun because the the flip side of that is
when we deal with people that drink and I know that they sell alcohol in the the the stores and the gas stations around here and all that, but when we if we could give that money that came from
this event for the for the rum to an organization that is uh dealing with drug and alcohol addictions because the negative side that you heed from uh not only the faith-based church but people
that I've talked to out in my community at the park when I was out around uh you know we know that if a person drinks a few shots of alcohol and gets in a car
and drives down the road, uh, they're impaired. Maybe not to the point, but if they get pulled over, then what happens? They're going to check them and breathalyzer tests and then they're going to be charged. Uh, the worst case
scenario is they're impaired, they wreck their car, then now you got the police and the fire department on that. So the point I'm making is I I want to promote our businesses and growth of
businesses. The main thing is if we look at those that need to be counseledled in this it brings a lot of negative. It brings the part where people do drink and try to escape their problems. they
end up being in a a situation where they can't function driving and they put other people's life on the line. I'm going to give an example. Uh I grow up around a lot of that kind of stuff and seeing the negative part of it even
though it's allowed to be used. Like take a 20 year old man, a friend of mine. Well, he was drinking uh vodka 101 alcohol. He drunk enough of it to where it killed him. He and they
considered alcohol poisoning. I know that the police and the fire departments dealt with that especially you get into bigger uh facilities. So we need to also recognize that we want to promote the business and and awareness. So the
people some was for it some's not for it. So if we going to promote anything, we need to be aware of the the negative consequences and what it is. That's where the council, you guys have to make that decision for all people and be
aware of all these things. So I hope that you will take that in consideration. Uh you know people, you know, they they can't function. and they they live on a live on it to escape and then they start
hurting their families, loved ones. Another quick story, another guy I'm gonna cut you off this guy. I got a couple more things for our deadline, but it'll be on an agenda item that we Okay, so we could talk about yet, but thank you, D. Well, he ended up in prison, but
that was it because he killed somebody. So, that's all I wanted to say. So, let's think about this when you make these decisions. But if you promote that with something else, we're good. Thank you. Um, okay. And then, um, couple more things. Our town hall is June 3rd and
we've we're we're a go for across the street, right, at Sun Coast Mobile Home Park. Yes. I we we I think you and I have clarified with her that it's open not just to Sun Coast residents. It's open to public. Um, she did reach out and said she was going to tell everybody to to not park
in that area to to proide some additional parking or whatever. So, if we could get um the city's notification to go out for the town hall. We discussed that this morning as well as I'm going to get with George too on the logistics for streaming as well. Where would people park? There really is no
place to park. They've got some and I think there's probably some street. I I don't anticipate that based on our town hall attendance that there'll be a big problem. Um but obviously if if everybody decides to come to this one for whatever reason there's not very
Yeah. No, I get that. It's um parking there. Yeah. And it's it is across the street. So really they could park over here and walk across. Again, I it I don't anticipate a bunch of people going to that outside of that. The idea is actually get more attendance by going to
them. And so it's probably going to be there probably a lot of people there that live there. Um but we're not closing it down. the entire public is is welcome and um and like I said if we even have a handful that normally come here go there I don't think it'll be a problem but obviously we may need to
reevaluate that the future June 2nd June 3rd June 3r to 6 p.m. 6 p.m. at Sun Coast Pop Home Park. Um, and cuts off at 8. Cuts off at 8. Those are two hours to try. That's all right. That's fine. It's
not requirement you come. I just So, um, so if we get that that notification out, that'd be great. Um, and I know she's already advertising as well over there. So, hopefully be a good event. Um, the going back to the the money we raised,
$1,400 plus um for charity. Um the committee decided that uh we want to try to uh double that with a charitable matching campaign. Um and so I want to get a from your perspective since this money is kind
of circumnavigating the city because of how it's implemented or whatever. um how we if there's anything we need to to do in order to do that right to be able we're going to solicit hey we've got this much money solicit a match so we
can probably double that for those charities okay so if you check into that so in other words let's say you got $1,500 that we raised in excess and you're going to put it out hey we got 1 1500 is anybody else throw in
throw in money like self but put money into that. Yeah. The goal is to try to take that 14 plus and turn it into 28. I think if you emphasize the charities that it's going to so that people are aware that it's going to a good cause that kind of let me just tell you who those charities are which is which would
be good. Um they are Crawl for the Cure which is the the walker cancer crawl. Right. Vet Catch. They helped with our fishing tournament. They he takes out vets fishing things on a fishing. Yeah. Runaways animal rescue. It's right back here somewhere. Uh, West Pasco
Historical Society, which is they contributed and then All Hands and Hearts, which helped us with hurricane recovery and stuff. Perfect. So, those five um and and then Ron with the with the chamber and his nonprofit, I think he's going to take 10% of that for facilitating the exchange. So, he and
he's a nonprofit, too, benefit. So, um the last thing I have is uh our July 4th plans. So, I know we we've decided we're going to forego the fireworks because we were going to do the centennial. We didn't want to put the money towards another fireworks show. And I I believe we
talked about doing something for on some weekend, whether it be a picnic in there and park or something or something to recognize Fourth of July outside of fireworks. What's y'all's thoughts on doing something? If if if we have a appetite to do something, we probably need to get on that. You mean like get
me some food trucks in there? Just We could We could Yeah. music or something. Yeah, we could we could probably hire a a band or something to play in the pavilion and food trucks. Somebody wants to come listen. See if the Johnny Cash guy wants to come back.
He was really good. That was too soon. What What day is the fourth on? Uh the fourth is Is it in the middle of the week? I'm pretty good at find a band. That's right. We got an expert right here. Yeah, thanks. Friday. So, it's Friday.
Oh, it's on a Friday. It's on a Friday. So, we could do something on Saturday. Well, no, I'm doing Friday night. Let me tell you, if you want somebody, you better start doing it. That's why I'm bringing it up. I'm sorry. I I don't mean to rain on any
of this, but you're asking a lot to do in just a short amount of time. And then the fact that it is a holiday weekend, the majority of staff will be off that weekend. July 4th is on a Friday and you have Saturday and Sunday that goes three day
weekend. It's a three-day weekend. Yeah. Either I'm just I'm just if we're going to do something just saying with with planning this these events that we just did required months and months of planning and time. This is not just something we whip up real quick. It's it's nice to talk about that that it
could happen quick, but you know I I don't move that fast. I'm not that good. So if someone else wants to, you know, take tackle that on, we can call the vendor, do something. But bands book up six months in advance, don't they?
Yeah. You got to you got to move on it. Is there any do something? Just Are we doing fireworks right now? No. We're doing nothing right now. I think I think we're so close right now. You just leave it alone. Give them a break. Let's all enjoy our Fourth of July and not do
anything. Okay. I kind of think that too because there's just, you know, you just finished, you just finished everything and there's so much going on that weekend. I agree. There's so much going on here or people are going other places. We'll be talking to bysentennial to push all that through and then that
will be it. Nothing for and I'm okay with that. There may be just transparency. There may be some hey because we always put on a fourth of July fireworks show. There may be people that you know participate in the best shot there was. We want to have something like the holiday season. We need to start planning that now. Oh
yeah. And that's we need to get this committee and stuff in place to look forward. But I just want to make sure that we're on board with nothing on Fourth of July. Right. Okay. And then we need to be looking at Fourth of July next year, right? Absolutely. And maybe look at that same group. Yes. Put it on. Exactly. And knowing that it's on a
Saturday, probably move one day. I I will say we need to book now. Why don't we go ahead and Is there any objections to booking that same company to do our Fourth of July next year? Which one? The one that just did our centennial. Why don't we leave? You're going to get a committee together and that committee is
going to have a job. Why won't we let they can do that? We got to give a job. But these fourth of July vendors, they get booked up early. So, there's a couple factors and both our city managers will agree that, you know, we got to talk about budget, what we're going to, you know, be able to budget if we're going to have money to set aside
to put towards that just like we did this year. Um, we can I can definitely reach out to every vendor that I did to start getting proposals for next year. Um the mo the thing that you'll want to think about especially for July 4th is what date you want to lock in so I can get these proposals. But I do agree with
Coun Council Mueller that getting it done ahead of time, especially if you want that company. They are they are a very big company. Um they're very professional. The fire department told me it was one of the best companies that they've ever worked with since we've done fireworks for the city in in several years. Um the equipment that
they brought out top-notch professional. you know, you know, of course we we had no fires, we had no risk, no anything like that. Yes, it was a bit closer than what we're normally used to. Um, you know, we had some, you know, cardboard debris here, but regardless, given given all them circumstances, it was the best
show that the city probably seen ever. And I mean, I got no problem reaching out to them and start locking in and moving that process. But this is something we definitely want to talk about for budget because even with the committee formed, we don't know what we're going to receive in sponsorship dollars or anything like that moving
forward. So, we want to look into that um as soon as I say it was a good company and they did a good job for us. Okay, we got 15 seconds left. Anybody wants to make a motion? Like make a motion to adjurnn. Second. Motion second. All in favor? by saying,