It's called council meeting Tuesday, August 12, 2025. I can certainly dedication stand. So, Father, we just want to thank you for this day. We want to ask for wisdom. I thank you for the city and the council here and the stuff that's on the the
consent agenda, Lord, for the water dredging and and the board of committees and stuff, the utility department and the Port Richie uh sign code and the overlay uh at Waterfront Park and the
boat parking in the city. So we just thank you that we could come together and just make decisions together as a team and watch you work in our cities and our life. And we just want to give you all the praise, glory, and honor in the name of Jesus. Amen.
To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. clerk roll, please. Mayor John Eric Hoover
here. Vice Mayor Chris Mayer here. Councilman Robert Huard here. Councilwoman Lisa Burke here. City Attorney Nancy Meyer here. City Manager Andrew Butterfield here. Thank you. Okay, first up, we got
several sets of minutes. Um we'll we'll go down the list. Uh on the and actually on the May 20th 25 uh city council special meeting minutes um there was references with uh Vice Mayor Rodriguez in there mix there's like three spots. So um we got a motion for that motion to
to change that to the correct vice mayor. Motion to correct it. Vice Mayor. Okay. Motion second. Any further discussion? All in favor signify saying I opposed. Motion carries. Next up, any motion for the May 27th city council
meeting minutes? Move. Go ahead. Second. Okay. Motion second for discussion. All in favor say by saying I. I. Opposed. Motion carries. Next need a motion for June 10th city council minutes.
Make a motion to approve the June 10th minutes. Okay. Is there a second? Second. Okay. Motion second. Further discussion. Okay. All in favor signify say I. I. opposed. Motion carries. Need a motion for the June 16th set of city council minutes.
Make a motion approve June 16th minutes. Second. Okay. Motion second. Further discussion. All in favor signify saying I. I. I. Opposed. Motion carries. And last set. Any motion for June 24th 25 city council minutes.
Make a motion to approve June 24th. Second. Okay. Any further discussion? All in favor signify by saying I. I. I opposed. Motion carries. Okay, next up, comments from the general public. I have two folks signed up. We'll start with Danny Fields. Welcome. He always makes
the top of the list. Well, I'm always here early, but that's all right. I could give one of them a spot and they come in and you know me. Uh well, my name is Danny Fields. My address is 8114 Leo Kid. And I just again want to thank uh the city for all
that you guys do. We had the event at uh the in the waterfront park. It was a great success on July the 26th and we give out the backpacks and stuff to the kids and the police and fire department was there and they got to pass them out
and and there was music and I I thank you for being there, mayor, and the vice mayor and the council and Dave Mueller and it was a great excess. And so I will read something uh that uh is from Dave and Nancy but not our Nancy
the the lawyer. I want to make sure that was clear but thank you. Uh so uh so somebody cares we want to say thank we can't even say thank you enough for the local churches and the businesses around here in the families and
communities for all the partnership with somebody cares and reaching out into the community for back to school backpack giveaway. You're really appreciated. We we can't again can't thank you enough. There was over 350 uh people plus there.
There was over 350 volunteer hours, the price of all that with uh the supplies that was given and donations from our business here locally and all that and the labor and time and and the resources
went into that was uh $10,000. And so uh we can't thank the police and fire department enough for what they do in the city because that makes a big difference. Uh, a lot of people was there from the city and you could see
the outpour. You could they they got to know the mayor. They got to talk to you guys and the council. And I tell you, that's what public relationship is and building. It's putting the city on the map in a lot of good ways. And we're growing just like you see with what we
did the the 100 years celebration with the the stuff that you guys already did. We want to continue to partner with you when you guys do car shows and events like that. promote each other and be there in the events. And this is how the city will
grow. It's a great place to work, a great place to live and to partner and have a business and for guest people to come in and see what we're doing and growing. And we just been growing and I can't thank you enough for all the labor and the work that you put in here
serving the community and and the people and it's it's it's well known and I I say that to every one of you. Thank you and have a nice day. Appreciate you. And if if you get a chance to see some of those pictures out there, there's there's a flashback to the Wild Hogs movie. Myself, uh Dave and
and Chris were on the bicycle, not bicycle, but the motorcycle ministry had the bikes out there and we took a picture. It was kind of fun. And I'm glad you mentioned that because they was Christian motorcycle associations, different ones out there serving and cooking and volunteering, too. So, thank you. I I it was on my
list, but I was just trying to get to the agenda. But the you know that that makes a difference and other ones are starting to notice what we do and the businesses and they want to be more of a part of the city. They want to be more part of these events, even the car show. So, we're heading in the right
direction. We just keep doing what we're doing. Okay. Thank Jerry Griffin. Welcome. Uh good evening. Um Jerry Griffin 7638 Dedra Circle. So um first I want to thank Dave for all the good things he's
done on council here. He's been here a while and uh this whole council since you guys have taken over have completely changed the city. Um I came in here tonight because I wanted to support Christine Sullivan in her bid for that
chair right there. I met her about um a year and a half ago. and uh she's got her finger on the pulse of the city. She knows everything that's going on. Uh she pays attention and she's uh very factoriented, so she uh
looks up everything and makes sure she crosses all her tees and dots her eyes. And I think she'd be an excellent uh replacement for Mr. Mueller. And then let the uh cards fall where they may come election time. Good. Thank you. And
that's all I wanted to say. Thanks, J. That's all science I have. So, show hands, Mr. Mueller. If we cue up that three minutes, I don't know. I got a pretty good thick.
Give him a timer. Dave Mueller, 5439 Bluepoint Drive for the next month. Uh, I personally want to thank Chief and keep for keeping the officers safe and following up on something that has been
clawing at me for a long time uh is dealing with these illegal gambling uh facilities. I've had uh an individual write me a note uh send me an email regarding how her husband had lost lots
of money in in one of these things. And it it's something that the city needs to take care of. And and I appreciate you following through on what you said you'd you'd do because that's what we need is we need people willing to go out and do what they say and say what they do. And
I thank you very much from the bottom of my heart. Thank you. Thanks Dave. Anyone else like to speak? Come on up. Right on time. Well, you have two minutes though. Yeah, Rob Kworthy, 5800 Queener Avenue. Boy,
it's hot out there. Uh Dave, thank you very much. Excellent. All is great job. We're going the right direction. I'd like to keep going the right direction. Christine, I think would be the one to help fill that seat very well. Most
years know her. Most of you know how much she's done just for the sake of doing it to help out. Uh she's benefited nothing from it. I think she's it's time. She should benefit from it at least a little bit. Uh she's got the time, she's got the knowledge, she's got the this the strength, the energy and
and and the passion for the city. So basically that's my first comment. I'll come back for the next three minutes on something different. All right, Christine. Thank you. Show hands. Anyone else like to speak?
Okay, seeing none, we'll bring it back and open up for comments from city manager. I pass Mr. Butterfield for his comments. Thanks. Good evening, Mayor Council. Uh thank you, sir. Uh I'll piggy back on what former Councilman Buer said. Real proud of the police department uh for the leadership there, Chief. Thank you
so much working with our partners at the state level and our neighbors next door, Newport Richie, and going after illegal activity right out in the open. Uh it takes a lot to put something like that together and we're we're proud and thankful for that work. That's right on top of the fire department. And I think
I mentioned this last time getting ALS qualified at all times when a truck rolls out of out of our fire station. So uh both of our forces are uh are on quite a role. I just um it was mentioned the open council seat and so whoever's
uh placed in that tonight um of course uh my office will be open for as long as they need to get the in brief uh meet department heads that sort of thing and get any information they need to get a running start. So, we stay on a roll.
Um, just for everybody's calendars, uh, there's a town hall meeting at Sand Pebbles on the books for six o'clock on the 2nd of September, right after the holiday weekend. So, figuring it's a holiday. I don't want people forget. So, I thought I'd September 2nd. Yeah,
September 2nd at San Pebble. I don't know the unit. They have a clubhouse there. And actually, if I could break in there for a second. So, I got I spoke with uh management over there um early on to get that arranged. Uh and I I spoke to Jared Hill yesterday and he they're having a
meeting on Monday. Um the only they're all pretty much on board with having that meeting. The only thing I I mentioned is that we have to allow people outside the gate to be able to to join that and so they have to take that to their board. He didn't see a problem with that. Um, so we'll find we'll find out for sure on Monday if that if
they're okay with that, which they should be, but if not, we'll have to probably move it back to here city hall because we can't restrict um I mean we can't restrict to a community for town hall even if we were focused on Yeah. And so that's what they've got to opine on on Monday. So we should find out for
sure, but obviously keep moving ahead on that and the last minute we find out Monday we can't, we'll just have the town hall here. But as of right now, we're planning on doing that on site at the clubhouse. That's uh Thank you, mayor. That's an important point that it's open to everybody. Just we're trying to get out and about around the different parts of
the town for hosting. Um glad to see Matt Star is here today. He's going to be from Stantech and he's going to be uh helping us uh get that seaggrass study done hopefully before uh the end of the FY here before the season closes. Um the event committee, we're looking forward to them meeting uh tenatively. Uh I
think we've got the town to the 19th a week from tonight at 5. So, uh, if you want to attend that, uh, new events committee, uh, after this meeting tonight where we've got the CRA, uh, uh, CRA meeting scheduled. So, stick around after the
gamble comes down the first time. Uh, the planning and zoning board, if we can get quorum is tenative will be scheduled for next or two weeks from now on the afternoon of the 26 with more to follow on that. And, uh, annexation is a big
topic right now. And uh so we'll uh we'll be uh trying to give the PNC board some guidance on our annexation efforts. And uh lastly uh because uh the even year legislature meets January 13th in 2026
uh we have to start planning early for we just got our ass for 25 and we got to start putting a list together now uh to get it to uh Mike Moore uh by early September so that he can uh uh work for us in the halls in Tallahassee during the committees meeting starting the fall and then in the session starting in
January. So, uh, directors are supporting me in, uh, coming up with a prioritized list and two weeks from tonight, we plan on presenting that list to council what we think our priorities for the city are that we're going to ask for state help. Just keep that in mind. We'll, uh, I'll get with everybody on
council beforehand. So, when I pres individually, so, uh, when we're looking at the list two weeks from now, hopefully we'll be able to build consensus on what, uh, what what's plausible to ask for and hopefully keep keep the city on the move. That's all I have right now. Okay. Thanks. And just to add on to that, so obviously that that initial
list, um Mike will go through that and and kind of vet it and kind of pick and choose what he thinks would be good to go forward with. So we kind of put the big list together. He narrows it down to something we actually put be asking for and that's where go. So So we have a better chance because
right because he kind of knows right what what people's priorities are and and what can what hot topics and stuff better chance of getting funding. So right. Okay. Thank you, Mayor. Thanks. Okay. Next up, comments from boards committees. Is there any comments from
boards committees? Um I will I have a couple things. If you look over to my right, your left, and the audience, um you'll see the from our centennial celebration, the plaques that we got for each of the sponsors. So, take a look at those. There's there was three tiers. The largest ones were the 20,000 and
$10,000 donations. Uh the middle ones were uh below that down to a thousand I think and a thousand below was the the smaller ones. Is that uh yeah, a little bit three sizes basically. We just kind of tiered it up with the amount of sponsorship. And so those um my thought
was is that we would schedule a little social here in in council chambers where we would invite all the sponsors to come have some cookies and drinks, have open house type thing, and then we could give those out and then for anybody can't make it, then I could make sure they got that delivered to them. So that's kind of the plan. But
take a look at those. They turned out really good. um and little token they can set on their shelf or in their display case for help. S's wife that designed them. Yeah. Yeah. She actually helped with the Yes. S's wife actually helped with the design. It turned out really nice. They're really nice. Um it's our our logo was kind of tough
to to get on an acrylic thing like that, but it it turned out really pretty good for all the poles and stuff on a steel house, and it really turned out good. So, they they turn out nice. Um another thing on board's committee. So, with Dave uh vacant his seat, we
have a vacancy on the Tampa Bay Regional Planning Commission Board. I attended that meeting uh in hisstead the other day and so we need to we need to replace that. I don't have a problem continuing doing that. I know it's uh it may be
difficult for some because it's their meetings start at 10:00 and then they go to 12 and then normally there's a meeting after that with well every other I think with the resiliency committee uh which Pete Altman was there who chairs that committee. He actually uh is going to put my name in for the chair. I don't
think it's mutually exclusive. I think I could be on that committee but not be on the on the council. But if you guys are okay I'm happy to fill that role or if you guys have a burn desire to take that we can we can look that too. But we need to have somebody sit on that committee. Do you want a motion or consensus? Um by consensus, is there any objection
to me filling that role? I would say yes on that. But if you get overwhelmed that you should reach out to one of us and have us do that because you're already doing a lot of stuff. Yeah, sure. And I don't I don't know if uh on that if there's a opportunity for an alternate, but if is there somebody would want to be an alternate or
is it they need a representative from city and you're one of one of the elected sit on the board? Yeah, ask them. I I mean I think any of those would fill in if we had to. And we leave that open if if some reason I can't make it. And I've been to that with Dave twice. It's pretty interesting to go to. So you guys might want to, you know, go down
with Eric one time or two times and just get used to it. That way if we have to fill in for him. Yeah. And you and you're more than welcome to to go. I mean there's there's just like council chambers here. There's there's seats for for spectators and whatnot. Know when the meetings are. Yeah. Yeah. And we can publish that maybe even
on our calendar. I don't know if that's city stuff, but Um, they meet once a month. I can uh I can get Ashley the date so she can disseminate it out so you guys have we get noticed. That would be nice. Yeah, just text us at least. I mean, yeah, we can do that. Okay.
So, any objection to me filling that? Okay. I'll represent. Well, like I said, if I can't make that, I'll make sure that you guys have an opportunity to fill that in. Yeah, that'd be great. To the council. Yeah, that'd be great. Any other boards and committees stuff?
Okay, moving right along to the consent agenda. Item number two, we got a consent agenda for August 12th, 2025 for a motion and or discussion. Make a motion we approve the consent uh the consent agenda for today. Second. Second.
Okay. Motion second. Any further discussion? Any public comment? See, bring back for a vote. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed? Motion carries. Next up is council business item number three, approval of Stantech waterway dredging
data collection and feasibility analysis services. I'll pass that to Mr. Coffer for introduction. I mean, sorry, Mr. Butterfield got it covered. Matt Matt Star, he gave us a great briefing about a month ago and uh we gave him direction that he wanted to the
council wanted to add some uh some canals that weren't included and so uh he put the package back together with some additional waterways. uh talking with you earlier today, mayor, you might have wanted to tweak it again. I'm not sure how feasible that is. Uh maybe we
could approve this so we don't miss the season inspections and um with a caveat to modify it later, but uh that might be worth discussing because you hadn't mind. Yeah. So, I was uh I can pull that up and kind of show you. So, we we had a a
scope, right? And then we we had the the map back in the day when there was a lot more stuff that wasn't in that. And so they've added that and I believe what we have now in the in the packet pretty much reflects that that original map that we went with. Um and let me let me
share a share. Ashley, we just added a few more counts. Right. Yeah. But I'm going one make some recommendations to see what you all think. So this would be the uh cover all the studies. It's a little higher price tag
than than last month because of additional canals and but it would set us up for future actual dredging operations after they were all done. So, this is kind of small, but so this is in the packet on page 38. Um, if you want
to look on your your machines, but um we have all the millers by you in there with the canals and the across the pond over there. And then that one, this was the original document we looked at before before anything was added. And then we have the city canals that up
there, Betty and Green. I look at this and and I approve of some of it, but I see there's some canals that just don't need it that already, right? I'm gonna get to that in just a second. I know where there's rocks and everything's fine. So, there's a lot on
here that doesn't need to be done. So, the the addition so that that was the original and then they came back and they added our additional stuff in which you'll see down on page 61. You'll see the Harbor Point area which
is obviously important. Um there's this channel 23 which I'm going to talk specifically about. Um down here in Dedra Circle going through there. I think we have a a conversation about that. And then that other stuff there was that little Y going down towards
Dedra Circle along the edges there. Um and I think these other things were additions too. That canal was left off there towards Harbor Point. It's like sand pebble inlet and then um this little curvature here um on the end of of peninsula.
So how many were actually added? So all that was added in this packet now for the cost of 47ome,000 I believe that correct? Yes. Yes. What was the original cost? Original cost was 220 something I think 292.
292. Okay. So what I want to discuss is this particular section here, channel 23. Um, and it might be better to
kind of show you on the actual map. So that's this section right here in the middle with you get this pond and then what it shows on there is going through here and then connecting up here to Canal and Betty. As you can see,
there's no no pathway there. Um, so I think anything that would happen, we would have to do some excavating in order to make these connections. So, it doesn't really make any sense to do the study along this area here. That's on Bay on Bay right behind this behind uh like Steve's house back
right at this time. Yeah. Yeah. because obviously it would be nice to have some kind of connection and I think probably the logical connection would be if we ever raise Bay Boulevard to connect it there where it's already got a connection um to where the they could possibly get underneath the bridge
and out through the bayou. Um but it doesn't make much sense to to do the study here connecting all this to the canal and Betty because there's just there's no pathway there. Um so I would recommend pulling that out for sure. Um, and like I said, if we ever went any
further, we could always come back in and do that, but there's no sense to do it now because we'd have to do a lot more to to make that peaceful. Um, and what I'd like to see that was kind of left out in and my thought behind this is we need we need more water
access. It's the county wants it, the state wants it, and we need it, right? And with our development that could go in down here at the waterfront, we we may need to look at next park a little differently and how they routes and if you know obviously we're going to
we're going to keep next park. We're going to make it a a centerpiece where we get maybe some public dockage and stuff in the future, but a ramp depending on how that all develops down there may not make sense to have boats transiting through that commercial area. So I think um and also we've got the Pat
and Newport Richie project that's going to put a boat ramp and Maria and stuff on the south side of the river. I was looking up here at Brasher Park and I don't think I've ever brought this to council. I've kind of had conversations on the side with with uh city managers both Andy and then Matt
before. We obviously took the bathroom facility and stuff out here. So we have to do something with that at Brer Park. um the park little playground area needs to have some some work done to it. So, we really need to put some investment into Brasher Park and I'm going to show you
in a couple uh pages here. Brasher Park footprint is really So, this is Nick Park and this is Brasher Park. So, if you look at the area of Brasher Park about 4,000 square meters based on my outline here, Nicks
Park is 4,000 square meters. So Brasher Park is is basically pretty much the same footprint as Nicks Park. Um, so I was thinking as we do the study and we, you know, we were only going out to about
here or so somewhere in here, I think, is what the the study showed that instead of do that one place, if we go ahead and take that out and actually do the study around Brasher Park with the with the intent that we would look at
providing another local launch there in the future for boats. Question providing another or well because that's that's a two different things. Providing another from from the because we don't really know what's going to happen next part go forward. So
providing another would be the the thought process and then be in a replacement if we ever decided to I don't see how that could be a replacement unless you did a lot of because it might be the same area for parking the same as Nicks now, right? But there's also other parking
around Nicks. And there there's nothing. But there is there is if you go to the end of that road, there's four lots, right? Three lots that are so vacant. Nobody's Nobody's going to park clear down there. And a golf cart bring a golf cart back. Nobody's going to bring a boat in a golf cart. No, no, no. We'll run a golf cart back and forth or something.
What do you mean we the city? Well, the same way they do it down at Newport Rich. They run one to the parking garage all day every day. So, so there is that's not going to happen. So there is there is opportunity to to have some additional parking on down from that. But again, you're right. There's there is parking across the street. Now,
keywords now, those properties are for sale. True and will probably be developed at some point as well. So, um you know, I from the city park perspective and the parking that we provide and our that we own, you're talking about the same footprint and you might be able to
squeeze a little bit more just the way it's there. The the real problem is is the is the the depth of the water going across the flats to get out and those all those mangroves there at the end. I mean you can't even see off drugs. Yeah. I'm not I'm not when I So we
probably couldn't touch the mangrove stuff there. I don't know that. No. So look so look at your limited access and it's shallow. Yeah. I didn't include that. So just just the actual grass part you see is in the in the uh so you have to include the main growth
if you could put a ramp in there as a second ramp. Okay. But if if your plan is to I like the idea but I think we need to stick the necessity at this moment as far as the dredging. Well, right. But that I think is a good idea for the future. But here's hear me out on this.
And so again, we if we want to talk about it later or whatever, it's it's it's pertinent because we got to we got to get these guys start on the survey and whatever we take out or whatever. I think that's something we could look at. I'd like to ask
to see if there's any appetite at the federal level or even the county level or state level to help us maybe get some dredging so that if we did put a launch in there, we would have some access. Would that be something we could take to the state? Yes. And that's one of the things I've asked Sandy to do is if we would look at
what it would take to turn that into a boat ramp facility, we could go that this year to the state to see if there's any because they're looking for places to get people on the water, right? So, that might be a good opportunity to ask for some money to develop that. They can come back and do that with some other areas at a later
date then if we take Well, they're already here. I know, but I'm talking about the money we have right now. Right. Right. the uh I think it's worth looking into. I don't think there's anything um I mean what is the investment going to be for us to do that in order for us to permit anything
around there. We would have to have this done and so so we're going to have to dredge it anyway. That's going to be additional stuff, right? So you're still going to have to do the seaweed test, grass test and all that stuff. So dredging is a whole another conversation. This is just this is just the engineering to see what's there,
what's submerged, searass and all the stuff that they're going to do. You're thinking pull it from over there and check this out. I'm thinking we go ahead and while they're here, go ahead and spend down there and go around that. How much more would that cost to do that whole survey for about a mile of dredging?
I have to ask, but I'm assuming if we pull out that strip behind here, it's probably a wash. It's about right around same. Okay. Um because I we don't we we don't need to do this. So there's some area other areas that I mean we can pull out
because it's plenty of water in some of these canals that are on or a few couple of them. Right. And like I said, the other thing is if you know if if we're going out here and we don't go all the way, you're not really you're not completing the path and I said we we own the
Brasher Park. So I think we should include that in the study and whether we do anything with it later on or not. at least we'll have it and that gives us the opportunity if we want to seek funding maybe we'll get some funding to to make a launch there um it can only help that's a good point that's a good
point I'll make I'll make the motion well is before you do that so that was that was the one section the other section I want to talk about is and I'm glad Jerry's here because he might be able to have a little
uh information on this because he lives over or has a house over Um, the other Where's my map? The other section that was on there goes down through here
and right here there is a covert with a pipe that you have to go under. Okay. Yep. Been there many times. Have you been back there in a boat? Used to fish on my johnboat back there. Snook all the time. You can cross under that with a johnboat.
Yeah. So, and depending on the tide or whatever, you might go get, but it's it's it's low. And obviously, if we were going to do anything to allow more boats, we'd have to probably open that up somehow. It's a big under. Hey, hey, if you come to the podium, Jerry, go ahead and come up just so I
can since you're kind of familiar with the area. So, when Doc Massad was here, the plan was to open that up to put a bridge over it. The dredging was going to go through there and allow boat access. If you see
the Dedra, Lake Dedra right there. Right across the street. It's down a little bit. Right. Oh, on down farther. Canal keeps going. There you go. Well, right here. This is Lake Dedra here though, right? So, there's right there where your
pointer is. That canal goes straight out to the Gulf. Right now, you can go you can go all the way out to the west. Rocky Creek. Yep. Rocky Creek goes all the way to the Gulf. And I used to keep that open with my airboat. The fan would bust the mangroves and it's deep water and all
you got to do is trim the mangroves. And there's one big rock and once you get past that house out there, it's at low tide it's about 2 feet. There's not a lot of it that has to be dredged, but some of it does. But there's nowhere. But you can put a boat ramp right there
behind my house. You see that big um lot? Yeah. No, behind it. No. No. Go a little bit further south. See that big lot right there? This sail. So, you actually could put a boat ramp there and go straight out Rocky Creek and be in the golf. And it's not
that far. It's about, as you see, 150 yards. It's not a mile. Trucks and trailers run up and down them streets. So, I think that would tick some people off. Trucks and trailers. No, you come in from uh Limestone and you go up uh right you go up uh what's the one Aaron lives
on on the back? You come in that way and you go right up limestone and you're there. Residential loaded whereas park isn't. Huh? You want limit? Limit. Limit. Yeah, you could come up limit and it's going it's all dead now. They're cleaning it out.
Rocky Creek Pasco County. Yeah. Um I think it is. Yeah. It's not poor. I mean we I think we have back in here somewhere. I think all these houses are us, but Limit Drive is kind of the line. And I don't want to get too far. Yeah, I
don't want to get too far down this because this with the scope of this study that was done, it was basically coming down here looping in Dedra. Uh that that's the study already includes Dedra Circle, the one they paid for before. It includes Dedra Circle and
goes out the way underneath the It did not come and make the turn though on the the diagram that we had. And I don't know, like I said, I don't know why it did not, but it it came in here and it looped around and that's what you'll see on Look, let me go back to the
even leaving Dedra right here. See this? That's what the original document back Taylor Engineering did just had that it didn't come down here. So, but the problem with Lake Dedra is at low tide that section coming out of low
um Lake Dedra is high and dry. There's nothing. You got to really dig right here. Yep. Yeah. So there's a there's a choke point here and if you completely dry at low deep circle you can see that's almost runs dry sometimes completely dry at low tide.
So you got choke point there you've got a choke and I don't know how deep it is through here but you got I think a choke point right here you kind of meander through there but then you got a definite height issue here. So the question is is do we want to not until we put a bridge there as no
need to. Yeah. So, I would I would somewhat agree, although I think it's an easier path to to do something there. I know there's there's folks that live in that area that would that that want dredging. Um, and so
I think if we talk to Paswood County about Rocky Creek and we could do a joint effort hopefully. Yeah. If if I think that would be a very viable solution if we could open up Rocky Creek with the help of Pasco, whatever. Instead of taking them out that way, you take them down through there. could dedra in that area back in
there and then Pasco could take it out. So, what's your all's thoughts? Rocket Creek looks great. So, but I think that would be a separate obviously a separate thing we we look at. Rocket Creek looks like a lot more work
than the other one does, right? As far as another program. Well, I don't know. I'm not familiar familiar with Rocket Creek. Have you been back in there? Yeah, it's that moisture bar back in there. Yeah. my John boat years ago. Not my current boat, but yeah.
So, so that's my recommendation. I like I said, I I think we take out this right behind Martha's Vineyard. We replace go around Brasher and connect all the way uh going out that canal there and then we can look at see what maybe we can do later on for that. I think we probably
pull out this down here on the back side with Dedra. That's a lot right there. And that Yeah. Yeah. That probably that will probably lower our cost from where we're at now. Yeah. There's a bridge. Can't get in there. So, if you want to come up and what other canals Bob said he said he didn't think that are on there that he
didn't think needed it. Yeah. Um I pulled up by screen. I'm just concerned if we treat it like an all the cart menu if Matt's going to be able to come up with a new price in time for us to vote and then if we don't vote tonight then
Well, I think we approve it with that. I don't think we're gonna be we can approve this then we can we can will it down and he gets here right we can discuss that what I mean I would suggest we make the changes around Brasher we take out what we want and they just you know again if
you look at the length there and you look at the length there we're probably going to come in at same price or less but we're still under a time constraint right right before they just modify their their maps on those suggestions big canal down Aquilla as deep except
for just one rock down here. It's like 8 ft deep there. This between Aquilla and Channel Drive, which is It's not even on that. It's not even on here actually.
That was on the other one though. Well, it's the the second canal in on the on the left. The one legs are addition. So, it's on the original original one's on there. this long out. Yeah, that's already on there. This is an added but it doesn't need to be on there is all I'm saying. Oh, you're saying well
the boat ramp for Yeah, at the end. Oh yeah, there was a boat on page 44. The idea behind this is to find out does it need it or not and to do all the other things around it. So maybe you
could give some background on what exactly the reason for this is. Sure. Thank you. Uh Matthew Star, Stantech Consulting Services, Clearwater, Florida. The intent of this investigation now is to
take a snapshot in time to see what the current conditions are in the field to assess the seaggrass, see where it is, where it isn't. Do a hydrographic survey to see how deep the water is, what needs to be dredged, what does not need to be dredged. Engage the permitting agencies with the Army Corps and Department of
Environmental Protection. see what their appetite for dredging is, what type of permit they might issue to do do the dredging. Um that is the intent of this scope of work at this point in time. It's a feasibility study to assess the waterways within the city.
Okay. So by doing that they may find an Achila that you know that's it. Then when we come back to actually execute on any dredging, we could leave that out based on that information. We'd
have those those surveys. And I notice you don't have anything as far as Moonlet Bay by you in the city on there at all. Where's this long all the way up Manatee Point, the big open area around Crap? Yeah. The only thing that was on the original was this strip right here.
Originally, it went all the way down to the point. There's some houses like six houses down from me. They can't even get out barely at high tide. Low tide. There's big waste bar there. Yeah. So that it's going down somewhere here. And you're so you're saying around the bend.
Yeah. And then you got that canal that goes up and behind it. Not audio or all the way up to the where the the debris field is. That's already been dredged behind Weber. That's correct. So that doesn't need to be on there at all obviously, but they
could just move it down to into Manatee Point. They need to be dredged there. I see it comes right down to just about my house, which is cool, but it needs to go on down farther because I got more water than they have. Well, I I I wonder if we run into a
point where we're we're not in our jurisdiction. We're in Newport Richie, right? Well, well, the the the land portion, obviously, we own a couple five houses along Many Point Drive here. Not own them, but that's our jurisdiction. It's split there. But as
far as the waterway, I don't know if we have the ability to do anything with with that. Do you know the answer to that? That I mean, it's not a it's not a Port Canal. It's a it's a probably federal waterway or state waterway. I imagine I wouldn't be able to answer that question off hand. I mean the if you
want to survey it and collect data to get a snapshot in there, there's nothing restricting the the city from collecting data. Yeah. As far as ownership and you know who's going to pay for it? That's a different question that would have to be investigated. It's not much more than what's on there.
You're talking, you know, maybe another 150 ft. Take it down to the city line. Yeah. I mean, I'm I'm okay with that. You don't even have to go to the point cuz once you get past those houses about four or five houses down there where it's there's plenty of water to get out. It's just right in that one area there.
They can't use a boat. They can't a couple houses can't put a boat in the water and they couple of the people that have been complaining about Yeah. No for 10 years not getting dredged. So I want to cover as much city as possible and obviously that's if that's part of the city and collect
data there. Again, I don't know if we're able to do anything with it, but at least we'd have the data. We could take a look. Yeah. Yeah, we can certainly add that. Yeah. So, it if if are you guys all in agreement to take out the deep road
portion here for now? Again, I think we look No. Isn't this three minutes up? Yeah. Just got an airboat. He's fine. They thought channel 23 Indeed recycle need to come out. Again, I'm not I'm not I'm not saying we
don't maybe look at trying to open that up there. Oh, I agree. Or open it up even below or find a solution. I think we need to find a solution. But I think for this initial point, it doesn't do any good for us to get that information now because I think there's a lot with that right now. Yeah, there's not there's a bridge on one side
and the other part is Pasco County. Yeah, it's it's it's just buying up. I mean, it would be something we if we move forward with it, we'd be ready maybe get the permits and they they'd expire because it just takes so long to be able to. So, um I think we have a responsibility
to move forward. And I know it sounds like a lot of money, but we're our whole community is dependent on these waterways% and for us to get access to these waterways, good reliable access to these waterways is our responsibility. And so, this is the first step. This is like we can't do anything. We can talk about
dredging. We can put 100,000 here, 200,000 there, a million here. But until we get this done, we can't do anything. So this is the first step, right? You want to do like Dedra circle in the lake and out and then maybe down around the back and then when we dredge later, those are already dredged.
So are are you are you we're going to get this done, right? Right. That's not the question. And we're going to decide that tonight and we're going to send him off. What boundaries? What we I'll make a motion that we include the stuff that you talked about at BRE.
Okay. Just the way you claim I I vote that we don't do anything with Dra right now because you got too many other obstacles in there right now. It's going to tie us up. We spend our money where we need to spend our money. And we go to where Bob said, "Go to the end of the line there where the folks that have been playing to him for 10 years are going to get
some service and let's get that mapped out so we can find out what we need to do." And then channel 23 that's on here. pull that out as well. Correct. Okay. We're all in agreeance with that. That's my motion. Second. Second by Bob. Okay. Is there any further discussion?
Any public comment? Okay. See, I'll bring back for a vote. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. Motion carries. And so the obviously there' be a cost change.
I'm assuming we'll probably around based on what you're seeing. So, just to recap for you, channel 23 comes out. This long uh long thing with a circle on the end of it comes out. Looks like an upside down lollipop
with a bent with bent handle. Yeah. Can you You can't see your screen. You see it there? Yeah. But yeah. So, this this long tail and circle comes out. Okay. And what we what we added,
let's go to do earth actually. So you've already got this that goes down about that dock there. You're going to go a little further. So that's this dock right here. So it would basically go down to the city line along the bank.
Yeah. If you move that down. Yeah. Just keep rolling down along the bank until you get to city. Keep going. Keep going. A little bit right there. Somewhere. You can see the worst bar right there here. Yep. And it's at low tide. There's like six
inches of water there. High tide. It's It's still really tight. Right. Well, I based on the city jurisdiction, I would just drop it at that line wherever that is. Aren't all those houses there on Manatee, the backyards in Fort Richie? But when they they pull out the oyster bars and all
that stuff comes right out. They don't need to pull that oyster bar out where the cursor is now. I just need to dredge right in front of the docks is all. Okay. Yeah. Just mud and stilt and stuff, right? Just just just and again dredging conversation. They're going to survey to see what needs to happen,
right? They'll they'll show you. So they'll say, "Here's what we got. We got we got oyster bars or we got mud." Right. Not removing oyster bars. No, no, no. Don't need to do that. That's like there forever. Just leave it alone. Yep. And so that so you understand that addition right and then the other one is basically extend your line coming out
this canal all the way down and what I would say is see this little island right here. I would probably you go on either side of it. I think it's probably more plausible to do this side of it and as you come here you would
probably go along through here and just kind of around this curve here I guess. But just envision this as being some kind of launch in the future and what you would need to kind of look at to make that viable if that makes sense. Absolutely. I got it. All right.
I got my notes here. We're good. And we're all good if you don't add any money to the contract. That's okay. For for clarification for minutes for the motion because from what I heard you were including Dra Circle, but you're removing Dra out. It's coming out and
channel 23 circle removing number 23. Channel 23. Yep. And including Manatee Point up into the line to our city line and then on down extension to Brer extend that line all
the way to connect it with Brasher Park. Okay. Just cover the two sides of what? Yeah. Okay. Can I can I ask if Mr. Star, are you able to just reprice on the fly at the podium or do we need to
let me regroup with our se with our surveyors, our seaggrass team and uh get back here. But just at a high level, eliminating some of them, adding some of them, it it kind of looks pretty looks like 50/50.
But don't don't hold me to that. Let me put pen to paper, please. It'd be a real win if you could bring it down just a little bit. Yeah, you Yeah, we really like it then. It really comes down to just, you know, how many linear feet we have, right? That's why I just have to go back and just usually count looks like a wash. So, I
think we're we'll be at that same 4 point or four was it 470? I think 470. Yeah. Ballpark. Um, do we need So, we had 200,000 in dredging for this year. Also, we got 200,000 for the next
fiscal year. No, you have 135,000 left this year and $200,000 next year. Uh when I was originally told about when I was making the budget, it was 291. Um no one told me we added anything to it. But that's what we have right as well. But you also have contingencies if
you want to do that. But yeah, that's what we got. 135 and then 200,000 this upcoming bid. Put it here. We talked about using the money for that park next park project that's there. So, is there anything we need to do from
a from a finance perspective or we good? Well, I mean, uh, we just have to reappropriate at some point. I mean, I'll hold the 135,000 this year once we settle on actually hiring them and then we have the 200,000 next year. And what I can do is look at it and see where we
next step we come back with a contract and sign it. How soon do you need us to do this for that deadline for the seaggrass thing? Yesterday. Pretty soon. We have five or six weeks left. If if if we can um if we can get this done by next meeting, which two weeks
from now if these meets come back, I'm assuming uh next meeting is the 26th. Yeah. I mean, we call special meeting if we had to. We call special meeting as well. Yeah, that's nice. We if we don't have to do your thing and then and then uh
get back with us and we'll we'll do what we need to do to get you guys rolling. Absolutely. May I ask one question uh to finance um regarding the scope of works? We have one scope of work from a previous meeting. We have a second scope of work from today. How would you like
us to present the final scope of work here? Would you like us to combine it in just a one scope of work rather than have revised ones floating around? Yes, just do a one scope of work. Scope of work with all the changes. Absolutely. Complete picture. That'd be great. All righty. I've got my homework.
All righty. Thank you so much. Close public comment. Wish you were still sitting up or you're not. Go ahead. I mean, if it's already happened, we'll hear your comments. I realize that, but um Dave Mueller,
5439 Blue Point Drive. Did you pull out the canal behind Naughty Or because it was I thought it looked like it was in there. Was that something else that needs to be eliminated in this uh re revised proposal? A little some of it. A little bit
dredged right behind Naddio hasn't. It's like from Nador all the way up. Okay. Okay. And so it's very little. It's kind of air. That line's going to go right by an order, isn't it? It does. Yeah. NRO does need to be dredged. It's just it's right there like at Nior all the way up has been. Yeah. But the survey is going to if that
changed, it's going to cover that, right? So it's okay. So minute it's not worth it. Okay. Next up, item number four, the moment we've all been waiting for, council member appointment. And so
we've got the the three candidates here. Is there just show hands? Is there anybody else here for a council seat other than the three that signed up? Denied. Denied. All right, Chopper, we got some property
um for sale. Some substantially damaged property, but property Um, so that being said, so we got three candidates that are interested in the council for employment. Um, what we've what we've done in the past is they would have time at the podium, I
would say five minutes a piece to uh tell us about themselves, whatever they've prepared, and then we have the opportunity to question and then we go through the candidates that way and at the end we come back to council uh for discussion motion. That sound like a good plan with the five minutes for each
candidate. Okay, it's fine. Okay, so let's and I we can just go in the order that was in the packet, which I believe Christine's first, but let me see here. Yeah, the other going to be excused.
Uh it's public meeting. I mean, they they can't they won't want, but we can't say one way or another. Okay. So, um so yeah. So I would uh Oh, you know what? Oh, that's sorry. Wrong mic.
Yes. So, Christine is is first in the packet. So, I will turn the floor over to Christine. Welcome. Well, hi Christine Sullivan, 7808 Weber Lane. Um, I know all of you and I think all of you know me as well. Um I am a retired
corporate parallegal with focus on regulatory compliance contracts and policy creation and implementation. Um I now have all this time on my hands. Um and I so I I do a lot of volunteer work for the city. I serve on one board
in two committees. Um I also moderate the city town hall on Facebook. It's an unofficial public awareness group on on Facebook. Um, that gives me an
opportunity to like feel what the community is looking for out of council members and just in general what they want to see. So, um, you know, I'm I watch all of the meetings. I've been watching the meetings for years. I used to have problems of my own. Mine are all
resolved now. And so what I spend my time doing is uh creating uh procedures and policies and things that we could possibly implement within the city, but I can't do anything with that unless I have a seat on council. I I don't want to take a seat just to sit
there with you. Um, we can sit together in restaurants and on our porches like we do, but I want to get in that seat so that I can work with you so that I can implement some of the things that, you know, I think about and some of the things that I know that the residents
want. So, I would just appreciate the opportunity to to get up there with you. Thank you. So, I open up the uh the council questions if there's any questions. None.
None. Okay. Thank you. Nobody has a question. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Next up is Linda Rodriguez. Welcome. Hey, Linda Rodriguez, 5917 Lantern Court. had
my hip replaced. So that's why I'm on the walker. Um been a resident for 38 years. The first 29 of them I was working 50 60 hours a week in hospitals, running nursing units, taking care of my
children, going to football games and being a mom and a nurse. Um my husband passed away nine years ago and about six months after that I became involved in the city. Um, as you all know, you all know me, so I don't have to really go into much, but um, served on CAC the
majority of the time, was on council for three years. I lost to, um, Lisa and Chris by 20 votes. And, um, but I'm very passionate about the city. That's why I still live here. I love the city and I want to continue to be a voice for for
residents. And I know sometimes we don't agree, but I don't see that as a negative. I see that as a positive because I think that brings many viewpoints into light that 3,000 residents don't all think alike. So, I just want to be a voice for people and I
just want to help. And that's all. Thank you. Thank you. I open up to any questions. Thanks, guys. Okay, next up we have Matt Douglas. Welcome. I thought I had to keep this thing at
three minutes. So, I actually did write a whole slower. Read it slower. Got it. Um, I just want to say good meeting or good evening, mayor, council members, everybody, and all the residents of Port Richie. Uh, my name is Matt Douglas and
I'm here tonight to sincerely express my interest in serving on the vacant vacant seat on city council with you all. Um, since I was 18 years old, I've dedicated my life to public service and leadership. Uh, just prior to moving here, I was previously the mayor of
Taylorville, Kentucky. I served a four-year term. It is a mayor council form of government. Uh, when I was there, I led a community through both everyday governance and extraordinary challenges, including the CO 19 pandemic. I worked closely with public
health officials, emergency responders, and community leaders to make informed, timely decisions that protected our residents and supported our local economy. And Taylor'sville economy was already known as a veteran community and a crashing economy as it was before CO
19. So CO 19 made it even worse. I took on bold moves when I got elected. Uh when I got elected, I was a citizen of Taylor'sville for two and a half years. Um I got elected when I was just there three years. So, I wanted to to make some big big changing bold moves that the community wanted me to do. One of my
bold moves is I fired the police chief 6 months after taking office. Um, I just basically took the community's word and went around did my own investigations, research, that kind of stuff and determined he was not the right choice for the city. Um, after
that, I worked uh pretty much with every single staff member in Taylor'sville community. I worked with the city hall staff. I worked with the city police officers. Um, I worked with the water and sewer guys. I even worked with the water sewer treatment plant, which I don't know if you all know in
Taylor'sville is these giant basins of water, uh, that is just raw sewage that they put chemicals in and it dies off. And I wanted to learn what every single role, every one of the employees in the city did so I can give them the tools that they needed uh, when they came to me. I wanted to learn how to do their
jobs. Uh, prior to becoming mayor, I served as a deputy sheriff in Louisville, Kentucky, where I gained firsthand experience in public safety, law enforcement, and the importance importance of building community trust. Um, as a deputy sheriff in Louisville, there's every single department you can
think of, from winding people in the courthouse at the magnetometer, which is a very, very, very important position, to serving warrants and emergency protective orders, um, inmate transportation. I did it all with the, uh, with the sheriff's office. I also in Taylor'sville became part of
the volunteer fire department. Uh Taylor'sville Lake in Kentucky is one of the biggest fishing lakes in the state. I was part of the uh scuba dive rescue team there where I participated in emergency response search and rescue operations, including body recovery. Um
in my time here in Florida, I've only been here a little over two years, but my time here in Florida, I've continued to serve in ways that directly relate relate to the needs of the city. in Port Richie. I'm part of the planning and zoning, the citizens advisory committee, and recently the historic committee, which we still haven't had our first
meeting yet. Um, I'm an experienced boat captain. I've learned a lot from, uh, a wonderful boat captain in Port Richie that has taught me a lot. Uh, great, great leader. Um, I'm still learning, of course, the waterways and dredging needs daily. This meeting helped out a lot.
Uh, learning some more dredging around here. Uh I am also the current general manager of a marina in Tarpon Springs which is u it's a pretty big marina. It's called Tarpon Landing Marina. I oversee operations, handle all related financials. I lead a team of about 10
employees. I work with customers daily. Uh this role keeps me connected to the boating community and gives me a strong understanding of the challenges and opportunities of our local waterways and the importance of them. Um, I believe my leadership background,
my understanding of public safety, my local community involvement, and my firsthand experience with our waterways make me uniquely positioned to contribute to the growth and success of Port Richie. My goal is to work alongside you to create a city government that listens, responds, and
truly serves the people. Um, I mean, I've only been here two and a half years. I'm sure you're probably wondering, why do I want to be a part of city council? Um, my reasons for wanting to be part of city council uh began when I became in the middle of a code enforcement uh situation. And when I went to the
city for help to resolve these matters, my concerns seemed to me that I was being ignored and the city even tried to prosecute me. I'm talking like city related daily city operations, not not council. Um, I had to reach out directly to Mayor Hoover for guidance, which
without his help or where to go, uh, there's no telling what the outcome for me would have been. And I had just moved here. That experience opened my eyes. And because of it, uh, because this could have happened to me, I realized it might be happening to others in the community as well. I believe the government should work with its
residents to solve problems and not prosecute them unnecessarily and help educate them if and when possible. I want to be part of the solution to listen and to help. I just want to say thank you all for your consideration and listening to me for my my short speech here.
Good thing you not that short but thank you Matt. Thank you Matt. Is there any Yeah. Open up to any questions? No. No. Okay. Thank you. Boy, you guys are easy. Um, so I'll start the um,
uh, one thing I want to to say is we have a very difficult decision up here. It's it's very difficult. We're we're making a decision uh, for the residents that, you know, that elected us. And so obviously this goes to um, an election in April unless we see fit that we want
to do that earlier. Um, but I want to I want to press upon a can. Thank you for your interest. each and every one of you, each one of you has strengths that uh would serve well on council. And I just want to say I I was in your shoes back several years ago. Uh I came to a
meeting for an appointment. Um Linda remembers it well. It was myself, Linda, I believe Sher Sher, and uh Caitlyn, the four of us. And I remember we came here and we we did the exact same thing. We we petitioned council that our interest. And uh I didn't get a single vote. And
so whatever happens to tonight, I want to impress upon you don't don't give up serving the city. We need people to help. And just because you aren't selected tonight, we only select one. You know, we don't have three positions. Unfortunately, we don't have two positions. We have one. And we have to make a difficult decision. And so I want
to encourage you to continue to to be involved in the city. We need you. Um whether it's up here or in our committees, our boards, uh we really appreciate you coming out and serving the city. I I can't thank you enough for that. Um, but I I want to make sure that whatever happens that the ones that do
not get selected that you stay involved, don't give up and continue. Like I said, I'm a I'm a case study in that. I didn't get a single vote, but yet I came back and I ran. I lost. I came back and ran again. I'm here I am. And so don't give up. And we appreciate you coming. And like I said, all great candidates. So
with that, I'll open the floor for motion and discussion. Yes, sir. I'd like to make a motion, but I'd like to preface my motion first. I would like to make a motion, but I like to preface my motion with some comments. First off, each person who's running for this seat right here, I know each one of
you is totally capable of this job. You know, some of you have sat here before and have had a long-term success at this seat here. Um, some of you are serving right now. Both you are serving in two different positions. And so, I can't thank you enough. You know, being here, we need your help. The truth is, we need
your help. But we can't. We don't have three seats in here. So, we're gonna have one. And that means we have to make a decision tonight as a council who we want to appoint to that seat. So, my motion will be to appoint Matt Douglas to that seat. Okay. I have a motion for Matt. Is there
a second? See a second. I'd like to make a another motion. Sure. Motion dies. Yep. That motion dies. I'd like to appoint Christine Sullivan to that seat. Okay. Is there a second? I'll second. Okay, I have a second. Any
further discussion? Any public comment? See, I bring it back for a vote. All in favor signify by saying I. I opposed. Motion carries. Christina, are you prepared to be swore in? Absolutely.
Is it Is she okay swear in sit up here? I have I can I can swear her in your direction. Are you wanting her to serve as council member for the rest of this meeting? I don't know if she's apprised to what's on the agenda. That's completely
I mean I'm sure she probably is. I am. Want to make sure. But yeah, we're welcome to have her. That's up to her. I think if she if she wants you wait, you can come up here. You want to do it now? It's up. You're welcome to get it over with.
And make sure you send your email resigning from PNG. I will. I'm sorry. Yeah, one of those. From PNC confuse everybody. You come up here and raise your right hand. And you're going to repeat after me. So, I'll go slow because it's long.
Okay. I do solemnly swear I do solemnly swear that I will support that I will support protect protect and defend the Constitution and defend the Constitution and government and government of the United States of the United States and the state of Florida and the state of Florida
that I am duly qualified that I am duly qualified to hold office to hold office under the Constitution under the Constitution of the state of the state and that I will and that I will well well and faithfully perform and faithully Y perform
the duties of councilwoman the duties of counciloman on which I am now about to enter and of which I am now about to enter. So help me God. So help me God. Congratulations Councilwoman Christine Sullivan. Congratulations. After the meeting I'll I'll have you fill this out
and we'll sign it together and then you'll have a Okay. This is Hey Christine, I got your PC up here ready. You should be able to pull up the agenda. You have a password. Okay.
So there's a council meeting. This is a CR. Okay. One more thing on the council member permit appointment. So by our charter um based on the changes that we just put forth in the last chart change um it automatically will go to a special
election in April with a regular election uh with a run for the seat and that will have a one-year term which finishes out Dave's term. Um, council also has the ability to put that back to the people earlier. Um, is there any interest in doing that or waiting till April is fine? Any thoughts?
I think wait till April's fine. Anybody up to that? Okay. So, we we'll let that stand for April election. Okay. Okay. Next up, item number five, appointment of members to boards committees. Um, I'll pass that to Mr.
Butterfield for introduction. Yes, sir. Uh, Mr. Mayor, it's a motion uh in front of you to approve the appointment of Mrs. Kim Lucari to the historic preservation. She is volunteer. Okay, I'll open up to motion or discussion.
Make a motion we appoint Kim Lucari to the historic preservation. Okay. Second. Second. Okay. Motion second. Any further discussion? Any public comment? Seeing none to vote. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed? Motion carries. Next up is item
number six, utility department purchase request, HACDR6000 spect spectro photo meter. I'm glad you said it so. I will pass it to Mr. Butterfield and tell us about just uh it's I've been promised it'll
help us make us more efficient and accurate in our measurements for various sampling. and uh it's over the $10,000 uh threshold that uh where I need to bring this to council, but I recommend uh uh this approval at $13,56.
You'll cover the rest. I will. It will now um what are we using now? 186. So, can you help me out? Um I'd have to verify what we did but we
limited testing now and we correspond with county to do this. This is basically open up spectrum testing with different types of um more or less different aspects like what you know chemicals and whatnot that are in the water. It'll open the door and
save us from having to Yeah. depending on your testing especially with the regulations that are the regulations that are coming down from FD yearly. This this is this is an
important item to purchase due diligence. I was at the plant last year and Sammy was had talked about this over a year ago and how important that was for all
the work that they do and they could actually target stuff and make it easier for their job. That's all I thought was a great great idea. It was competitively priced and uh I'm very comfortable with this purchase.
Okay. Any other discussion and a motion? Motion. Motion to approve purchase of hatch DR6000 spectra photo meter from the US blue book for 13,000. I'll second that. Okay. Motion second. Any further
discussion? Any public comment? I recognize till midnight. Dave Mueller 5439 Blueoint Drive. Blueoint Drive. I I I think this this is something that's that's a good thing. It just
needs to be framed a little better. Uh I heard that we're outsourcing stuff to get testing done, right? That could have been uh uh identified and that's a cost that we're going to avoid and conceivably would have paid
for this thing. So when we do our business cases and when we do our capital expenditures, we ought to be looking at both sides of the equation. things bring benefit to the c to the uh city and we ought to be looking at those benefits and saying okay if I spend the
money on this 10 third 13 grand and I'm avoiding spending 15,000 on testing that would be an easy equation to look at and it wouldn't take any time at all so my suggestion would be is let's look at the
business case that we're putting forward let's look at the the pluses and minuses and arrive at a a net position so that you guys can make a better decision quickly. Thank you. Yeah, thanks Dave. Mayor comment. Yeah, I that's a good point, Dave, that
you brought that up. This has been a little over a year ago and I'm an old man so I don't remember all the details but I do believe Sammy told me that something this type of device something like this would help them with labor over the years labor cost because they
would be wouldn't have to be working hard on certain things if they knew it wasn't in the water if it helps them target certain things. So I think over time I think it'll save us on labor. That's that's a good point Dave. Yeah. Oh, it would be nice if if if we could do a cost benefit analysis on some
things when we come do just so we get a full picture. You know, we're spending 13,000 some odd dollars, but if we're it's really only cost of six, that'd be good to know. So, if we also keep that in mind as we put these together, that'd be great. Understood. Thank you. Um I put to vote. All in favor say I.
I opposed. Motion carries. Next up, item number seven, amendments to City of Port Richie sign code. Uh I'll pass that to Mr. Mr. Butterfield for introduction. Thank you, mayor. Um, so there was a workshop with a slightly different uh
council back in March and uh this has come forward now and uh I was it was suggested to me that we might want to delay this have another workshop. Yeah. So I such a big item here all night. Let me add to that. So, our sign code is
very large, very cumbersome, a lot of lot of working parts. And um I know Nancy has kind of put it what you see in front of you here is there's a lot of stuff that was put in there that needed to be by law that we need to add in there uh for that. Um but I want to make sure we get this right. Obviously, we
want to be business friendly and there's um there's some good things that were suggested like the the ability to use LED signs and and whatnot, but I and to change some window signs. Um, but I really think it we could spend a lot of time doing it now, but I really think this warrants kind of a dedicated
workshop to go through line by line and and uh pull some stuff out, consider it, put some stuff in maybe to get it right and and do an overhaul of the entire sign. very important and as we as we have new development stuff coming um we want to make sure that we have a good
set of sign code that uh does what it needs to do is not too restrictive but not open Pandora's box either. So what's y'all's thoughts on tableling that for special are we doing it with the um overlay with both of them? Yeah, I would actually pull the
waterfront overlay district as well. I mean I I think the discussion here is do we want to I think the waterfront overlay district needs some work outside the sign code. Um but I think the context of this is is do we want to have
that supersede our regular sign code do something more special for that particular area. I think we probably pull that out and discuss that same time and we might while we're doing that we might make it make more special. Yeah, cuz I know that there's a lot of stuff in the waterfront district. For instance, Gild Dog's shown
as a residential property, so it's been there for a long time, so we need to probably dress that up anyway. Um, but yeah, I would see us pulling both seven and eight out and uh having a workshop set for just those. What's your thoughts? Well, there's some signs that need to be
replaced over right now. Um, and I think we should allow them to do that. I agree with the workshop on doing certain get more detailed with it, but I think we should approve some digital signage over on the waterfront. So, some repairs can be made now. They they've been waiting
waiting for this for a year. Signage, Bob, you LED signs because the old ones, the LED signs are they're proven LED signs. We just have one approved. Yeah. Well, yes, because they have they can't even get the old signs anymore, you know. Everything's updated. They're
they're going to LED and and I know people are waiting on them. They're not allowed to repair it. So, or they're not allowed to repair LEDs. I'm sorry. Yeah. So, I don't hear them. My understanding is this wasn't for action for approval of this. It was to
give planning and zoning guidance. No. Wait. Yes. The sign code they've done many many times with the um discussion for the waterfront early district. You had council had talked about it at some point about
just the sign part of the waterfront and asked PNZ to look at that. Yeah. Start looking at it. They said we know that there's a new um image or or images might not be the right word but a new thought process for what council
envisions for the waterfront overlay district. So they want wanted to come back to you guys to kind of give them the direction of what you're looking waterfront. I met with them in their meeting and explained to them, you know, that that they have a lot of digital signs except for waterfront and I just think we should include them in with
digital signs over there. We have planning and zoning that can get with the business leaders and see what they want and they can come up with a guidance. We don't they did that for sign this two separate things. the sign code. They did that for
the waterfront overlay district. They want direction from you guys as to what you envision that area to be. They realize what it is now as in writing is not what it you're seeing it as in the future. So they don't want to make one change to the sign portion of the waterfront overlay district
code when you have a vision that changes more than that. And I think the one you're referencing want to sign catches was in water overlay district right now. So I guess so for for that sign on the other side of the street. So for for that location you need to
deal with your sign code and the water foot overlay district. Both parts are need to be adjusted before anything can be different down there. If I'm correct Bob is there people in that district that cannot get a digital sign right now. Correct. Yes. Nobody. Technically nobody can.
Yeah. I'm interested to hear that someone did. I don't know. Well, you can on the other side. Like they can get a permit to they can get a permit to fix their sign, but then they're not allowed to fix the sign because they so I you know I don't a path forward to
be able to be somewhat nimble and allows So this wasn't for any action tonight, right? As as you mentioned, these were both discussion items because the sign code itself is big. It took P&Z four, five, you know, meetings to get through it. Um, so this was purely for discussion. So if you want to move
things forward, you need to the next meeting, we need to have the ordinance ready and move it forward. And if you want the waterfront overlay district to change, I need to know now what that change is because it has to go to P&Z before you guys can take action on it. Well, the way I feel about it is I think we should approve digital signage. But
we as far as overall what our visions are for the waterfront district and commercializing the city as far as grand being downtown, I don't know what developers going to come in, but they might have a better imagination than we do. And I think we should make an action on this now and
see what developers what kind of ideas and we can adjust and make a decision as far as overall signage at that time depending on what kind of imagination they may have. It might be better than what we come up with. Then we'll have to change it again then. And we can change just that one thing.
Can't we just change it and say, "Well, we now allow." Yes. So we Why Why are we eliminating the latest and greatest efficiency sign there is from the water? We're trying to add to it, right? The current code doesn't allow for it. The the new suggested revision.
We want to allow it. Well, instead of kicking the can down the road, won't we just approve digital signs in the waterfront overlay district and then we can tighten it up there? Because you can just have to take the steps to get there. So, it needs to go back to PNZ for them to make do the do a
ordinance to make a recommendation to you. This was the way the process works. It went there. They chose not to make any specific suggestions. They wanted more direction from you guys to the WOD to the WOD. the sign code's ready for you guys, but it's there's a separate So, I'll make the motion we go back to planning and zoning and tell them to
give us the authority to come back and put digital signs in effect. So, we we can we can deal with all the other stuff later. So, that's okay. The the the WD is very specific to like the um material for the sign. I'm going to look at it. So, planning and zoning is the quickest
they're going to meet is the 26th. Okay. I mean, we can we can we can we can partial out the digital signs and kind of move down that and do the the couple meetings or whatever to get that done is is uh that's probably an ordinance two readings of us, right?
You know, I don't I don't see where if we if we was get together and have a workshop potentially before that. Again, we have to look at the calendar, but uh go ahead and cover everything instead of going right back to them. I mean, I mean,
Bob saying there's two businesses or more that are waiting. Yeah. But in a couple I talked about that and they approved it. They said we should allow have digital signs over there. And I I agree. I think if if we could just gave in and say digital signs gavel
out we could do it but it's not it's process you got to file for if you're a business that needs a sign that's already been waiting and then we got to wait two more weeks two more till a workshop or whatever why if we all agree again it has to go so if we I know here's pro so if we agree it would go to
plans only on 26th they would do something they would come back to us we'd have two meetings that we'd have to make the changes and it wouldn't be until a couple weeks after that because you guys meet on the 26th. So, it wouldn't be Let's get the ball rolling. Yeah, I know. This is the ball rolling right now.
We've been I've been with talking about this for six months now. When When you say get the ball rolling, it's it's all getting the ball rolling. Do you want to just get just a little piece of the ball rolling or you want to get the whole ball rolling? You got to do it in two parts. Let's get it done because it sounds like that's a bigger ball to get going. This one here is like we just prove it today. It goes plain zoning. Let me start the clock. I
guess we could do a limited uh we're allow digital signs on both the we could well that's already in the the actual we why don't we pull up that digital signs language you have already well what I'm looking at the WOD um and
we do we we mimic what we have in we can't I understand that's the right now the the goal is just about the digital but looking at the sign the signage language in the WFD right now um you want to remove all of it and just put digital signs. I don't think that's
the goal you want. So I don't I don't I don't know that it it it would be best suited for anybody to just add one thing and try to move it forward. I think it needs to be addressed. All I see is that variance can't do that. You have language in there that doesn't
allow that. I mean that would be really Yeah. So, I think I I truly think I understand people are waiting and they want to get this done, but I think the best way to do it is to look at the W and if you don't want to look at any other part of the WD, that's fine. You just need to give P&Z direction on the
signage portion more than just let people have digital. You need to look at what's there now and ch and and figure out what you want to change because it's very specific. It had you can tell it's trying to convey a certain look for that area. So if you it probably would be better in my opinion to address it all
at once. Um you don't have to listen to me. I can go back and tell them they want digital in there and we'll put it in there. But I think it might cause you allow them to have digital which they should have but then Whiskey Joe suit and they said we can put digital and they put a massive digital sign. I think you have a variance. I think the
maximum size is basically was on Catch's building and shouldn't have any bigger variance as far as digital. I want to ask zoning to to figure out what side has a variance on that. As far as signage and type, I don't I think we
just have possibly a variance. Um we're as that develops, I don't know. I mean, you got marquees up and down the road. If you want to just allow marquees on 19, but something different on treadway, that's a that's a workshop discussion, I think. Yeah, that's what
I'm trying to I think rather than just just right out the gate, I think we we probably need to have a workshop and I and we can do it quick. Um sometime next week if we can fit it in to and just just hash it out and try to get it
right. Um yeah, it might add a month, but in the grand scheme of things, if it adds a month, it saves back Yeah. do it once and we get it right and we because the public needs a comment the opportunity to comment on that stuff and
so the workshop includes all the stakeholders I would say the workshop we we we dive into the sign code we go through it which includes digital signs we look at the digital sign code that you kind of already put together and the workshop can be early right yes and and I I do
can we get some ideas from Andy from other cities similar to oursy we done the sign that's done You have a brand new sign code that the big in your agenda tonight. The big packet, the bunch of red and green and blue line. That's yeah, that's that's the work of P&Z and that has all the digital
stuff that had that's a um other areas, other cities, all that's been done and like five or six P&Z meetings that we've had. But now it's time for you guys to look at it and see if you like it. God, I love this job. We we've also got the wayfinding project going on involving signs
and probably want to include some feedback for that. Yeah, true. I mean, I'm all about doing stuff quick. I I hate bureaucracy, but I mean, me too. This is this lives on well past us. So, we need to make sure we do it right. It's not been open for a long time.
When is the back end of the way finding? I mean, is are they way finding when's the back end of this? I mean, like, how at what point will they come back? Are we looking at like a month, two months? Um, well, they're going to start, uh, we've already had our kickoff meeting. They're going to start setting up
workshops and input meetings, um, surveys, start getting, you know, council input, committee input, and general public. And we're going to be starting that soon. So, so we don't really have a frame. It's just how it how it works out with the meeting. Honestly, for the entire
process, I believe it's going to be about eight eight to 10 months total. So, but I'll get you a more definitive timeline next time I talk. But that's good to know because I mean it's going to be eight months. There's still some things that we're going to have to do in the meantime regardless of what the way finding project does. And and we we can honestly come back and
make tweaks. Absolutely. Um, but let's let's actually do due diligence and try to get it right so it doesn't have to go because planning zoning they're they're volunteers and you know when we send to them we want them to act on it to get it back to us so we can get it in place.
And so I would recommend that somebody make a motion at table 8 and nine and we'll schedule workshop. I make a motion table eight. Oh, I'm sorry. Seven and eight. Seven and eight. I make a motion to table seven and eight. like a workshop and have a workshop early in the day.
Okay. On a Thursday. We'll schedule right after we get this passed. Thursday before lunch. Is there a second? Okay. Motion second. Any further discussion? Any public comment? Sure enough, there is one.
Mueller, 5439 Bluepoint Drive. In the process of looking at the signs with in the WOD and without, you ought to give consideration to having one sign code RA that applies across the entire city rather than
multiple because now you put all that onus on on the code enforcement guy and you know you don't get anything done. So let's just try to create more red tape and get things you know drawn out. This gonna take eight months. Um that's not a good thing. So, I think you're on the
right track. Let's get one sign code. Let's simplify it. Pasco County is already reducing the height of the stuff along 19. I see all these things. I went up 19 today all the way up to Spring Hill and all of the signs in front of
the buildings have been lowered, the majority of them. I don't know if that's something we want to adopt here. Um, it actually is harder to see them because there's foliage in there. So, I don't particularly like watch traffic. I don't like it. Traffic coming. Yep. And then you can't see a car
pulling out. I think it creates accidents, but uh that's my opinion. I have one. Thank you. I would not have known that if you wouldn't have told us. Um and so and to your point, yes, I I think we need to as the waterfront overlay district is concerned, I think we need to look at
that and say what things in there do we really need to make specific to that area. And if we don't want to make things specific to that area, we pull them out. And if it's sign code is we don't want to change sign code uh for the waterfront district, we take that out and then it it applies across the board. So that's the conversation we'll
have. But we got to focus in on the sign code. Get it right. Okay. Only I'm available next week is Monday. Thursday works for me. I have Monday. Does Monday work? That's the only day
I'm available next week. Monday works for me. You got something Monday? Uh, we have a phone call that morning. Yeah, this will be afternoon here. Huh? Monday.
Monday. That might be not set. Then we can work the time for that. I can be here. I'm open all day on Monday. Monday 11. Uh, we got a potential workshop with the There's no time set. I know but if we but we can set this and then work around
that. That was just anytime after 10. I haven't gone back later. That'd be better after lunch. The problem if you start 11 you get push your lunch then you get angry. We we got another pot since we got
something going on in the morning. So I'd rather leave the morning for the that and I got some work stuff. I don't want to do any earlier. So let's do one o'clock on Monday. That's that work everybody. All good. What do you think? All right. Okay.
Good on that. Moving on to item number nine, discussion on boat parking in the city. Pass it over to Mr. Butterfield for introduction. It's a mayor that uh I think it came up before in my first week here I think in
in June and uh it was decided to uh push to now push to later and here we are. So uh there's it's regarding parking in driveways and visibility or parking on the side of the house and uh do we want
to revisit the the code on on both parking? Yeah. So this just for more context obviously this went through the pling planning and zoning board they discussed it uh they did not uh they did not come up with any changes and so it just kind of stopped there but
obviously it needs to come to council. So there they they didn't have any recommendation to do anything with it. Um the uh I'll I'll say my spiel as I've said before we're we're a boating community and I you can go through and you can park your boat and RV on the
side of your house and it can actually look unsightly on the side of your house. Um but you can't park it in in your driveway. Um, and so I I I'm an advocate for allowing some flexibility in people being able to
to park their vehicles on the property um within reason. We we want to make sure that it doesn't detract from the community. Um, and so I or block view, right? Well, again, when you talk about blocking view,
I'm talking about like on the street like, right? Yeah. Yeah. can't I can't block seeing down the street or whatever you want hanging out into the rideway, right? Um but we don't we don't want people parking boats in their driveway and it become unsightly. So I mean we can we
can look at from this and this this may be something that we want to take a little deeper dive in in a workshop. We've got some time now we can discuss it and we can always continue to discuss it later too. But um I I think you know if if we if we built some some rules and I think they should apply to on the side
of the house as well. I think if you have a boat parked on the side of your house, it should be covered. You know, it shouldn't have plants growing out of it. But I mean technically you could probably do that now, right? Because it's on the side of the house. But you can't park in your driveway, keep it covered, licensed. Again, I think it needs to be licensed.
Um you know, it can't be just a a work a work boat. This is zoning in progress. We have a zoning committee and they keep giving us workshops. Have them come up with some So this went through and they they did not decide to do anything.
They they voted to make to make their change. So we can we can agree with that to do that. This what are they well then that's what they meet and have pizza and said let the council decide what what's going on. Well so ultimately ultimate decision resides with council. They made a recommendation.
Yeah. But they should give us suggestions and options to vote on. That's all they they their in their opinion as that board they did not see any reason to change anything. Okay, we'll leave it alone then. That's not Did you have something? Well, I think we ask I think we ask a
resident volunteer on these boards and committees and and if they come back to us saying that they have no recommendations, we should listen to them because that's they're representing, you know, the public and they're taking their time to come up here and volunteer for this.
these boards and committees. So, say if they say don't do anything, then we're not asked to do anything. And yeah, the they are they aren't elected by the people. They're appointed by the electeds, right? So, a lot of times those folks been on for a long period of time and there's no necessary change out unless some they
get removed. So, there could be a disconnect between them and the the representation. So, just keep that in mind. I mean, we've come to the consensus that we're a voting community, right? We're on the water. Water is our natural resource that we have here. It's what
drives property values. The closer you are to the water, the more valuable your house is. Houses that are a block away are worth more. And the ones that are out here right now that are not on the water. The houses are so old and so close you can't shove between the houses without parking happen on your
neighbor's house are not, you know, and I think, you know, within reason we should come up with some kind of solution to put a park driveway. Long as they're maintaining it, it's in good shape. The cover's not ripped. It's inspected. There's air on the trailer. It looks good. I don't see that problem. It shouldn't be a 42 footer.
Well, that's Well, that that there you go. This it shouldn't be or exceptions and stuff like this. So, you got a boat. So, if I put my boat in my driveway, the neighbors would be blocked by traffic coming down the road. Then you're going to need another It's okay for them to do it, but it wouldn't be okay for me to do it. And that's that's the only
Well, if it was on a trailer, it' be like 32 34 feet. It's not that that long. boat with the trailer and everything. Yeah, it would be You're saying it's a problem to even put a boat drive at all or in my driveway? It would be. My neighbors could put one and it wouldn't be in anybody's way.
Say you put it in your driveway if it stands 10 15 feet off the road, you know, or something like that. Yeah, but it doesn't. That's the thing. Yeah, but you're right. If so, if you have the right as long as it's clear to ride away 15 feet from the road, shouldn't be a problem. You can make it something you have enough room for the Uber to pull in
there and pick you up. Pick you up and back out again, you know. So, That that's yeah that's the only objection. I have no problem with people putting those in the right way because some of them are nice. They cover them and they're not interfering with anybody. And if they want to park it on the side of our house and the neighbor
don't care if it's on part of their property, I don't see why we should interfere with it. The the reality is is it's a vehicle, right? And we park cars in our driveways. You know, I don't like parking on the grass. you know, temporarily if you have something, whatever, but long-term parking on
grass, you I don't I don't like that. I think that looks trashy, even if it's a licensed vehicle. Um, but, uh, you know, when I when I drive through not just Port Richie, but anywhere up down the coast where there's water, I expect to see boats. And if if I if I'm moving to
a part of the town that on the water and there's no boats there, I'd be like, what's going on here? You know, so people people want to come here and they want to they want to purchase property and they want to be able to use their property. And like I said, as long as it's a parking service and it's a
registered vehicle, whether it's a boat, RV, trailer, what have you, in my opinion, I'll be able to use your property. Now, you can't hang out in the road and impede traffic and and um you know, you can't have wheels falling off and up on jacks and stuff like that, flat tires. I mean, you you know, the
easiest way to prevent bad stuff that could happen is to not allow anything, right? That's that's a standard government tool is let's just lock it down. Nobody can do anything. And it it punishes the people that try to do the right thing. At the end of the day, if you buy a house here and you don't
expect to see a boat, I you know, I don't understand, right, why you'd be buying a property here that's not expect to see a boat. I think we're on the same page. Yeah. So what about set um establishing some setbacks for sightelines
and um maintenance boat so that they don't become ice words so they don't sit there because a lot of people don't use their boats. There was one right down the road for me that was that was an ice word for a long time. It's gone now. Right. that was in a driveway then yeah that
become and so you know I think we we need to make sure that um if you know if it's if it's sitting there and it's not being used obviously they're going to they're using it for the weekend they park it there going to go out in on the ramp or whatever that's fine but as it becomes stored parked there it needs to
be covered not with a Harbor Freight tarp right but an actual custom cover and we we put those things in there and I I I think one way that we could possibly um help with that is if we if we
integrated like a a parking uh pass, if you will, that they would pay a yearly fee for and that in order to get that to allow it to park there, they would be code for would come and spec out golf cart, right?
Well, they're required to have a tag if you park. I believe right now they have to have a current registration. So it's not like a Well, right. But we could do if our city to allow you to park, you would pay a fee and it' be some $100 a year decal goes right on your trailer. Blue, green, yellow, or
you got to have air in the tires. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that way at least every year they would have to get that reertified to allow for So you don't have somebody with a piece of junk sitting there. And that allows for a little bit of money for us to $100, you think? Huh? Yeah, I think.
Yeah. I'm $50. I'm cheap, but that's fine. I mean, I think $100 is cheap to keep in your driveway versus pay 700 a year to store storage. And people are going to say, "It's my house. Why should I have to pay to put it on my driveway?" So I I I think what
we should do and I don't I don't know if we can find uh maybe some example code from another city that allows I've taken notes of everything suggested and I will find find what I can and create what I can based on what you told me.
So I bring stuff back. So, is there any objection to us moving forward with looking at uh possible code changes to allow for boat, RV, trailer parking within the city? And we'll get more detail later. Think we should look into it.
Any objections? Make it part of the workshop Monday. No. Okay. That's probably too much. You might want a separate workshop. Got a whole day. Yeah. Take a while. Start at one, right? Yeah. Uh I would just add it if it can
be as objective as possible. It's hard for the code enforcement guy if it's very subjective like I mean you you know an eyesore when you see it but it's hard to describe it. So I it's it's a tough job to have right and I I think the the cover requirement on that if it hides the
eyesore if it if it's missing seats and stuff but it's got a nice canvas cover on it. Who really cares what it looks like underneath it, right? As long as it's visible. That's not a cover. I'm talking a custom canvas cover. We could we could put stuff in, you know, right 10
of the maintenance of the tarp, right? That the tarp must be so we can get into those things. But just let's let's but but there is there is certain amount of guidelines that we need to put around it so it doesn't get abused. And I think those I also think those guidelines
should extend to the boats on the side of the house, too. Because if you put the same boat that looks like crap in a driveway or the side of the house, it's legal on the side of the house. Currently, not legally in driveway. I don't want to see it on the side of the house either. I've seen boats on the side of the house with trees.
Exactly my point. So, I think we need to while we loosen it up, we actually tighten it in for any visible boats. We don't we don't see crappy stuff, RVs, whatever. Okay, public comment.
Dave Mueller, welcome. Dave Mueller, 5439 Blue Point Drive. About 5 years ago, I tried to get this move forward from out here and I suggested looking at the code that Tarpon Springs was using for boat
tagging. You got to have a parking permit to work in the to park in the city, a trailer at the ramps. um and trying to look at getting that uh implemented here. Just like you said, maybe $100 a year for residents and and
look at the non-residents if they're parking at at the ramp and stuff. You know, you get some kind of a deal for that. Uh that's what I used to have to do in Tarpon Springs. I'm not sure whether they still have that. Maybe Frank can comment on that. Thank you.
Anyone else? No, only the another thing to consider is that it be their vote. Yeah. Has to be the actual owner. Otherwise, somebody can Yeah, that's a good point. Anyways, right. It's more of a It's your property, your
vote. Register to you. Yeah. If you're renting a property, obviously it's registered to you. That's okay. But, you know, I can't take my boat over to Bob's house. Park it over. No, you can't. I can't put mine in my put yours cap on the number of votes.
Uh yeah, we get into details of counts and all that. I think I think there's a lot of discussion around I just thought that was one thing that should be Yeah. No, I don't think it's a big deal for the gamut. Not a big deal. Okay. Moving on.
Moving on. Where we at? We're almost done. Uh discussion of old business. Item number 10. Is there any discussion of old business? Yeah, mom. Thank you for a whole bunch actually. So, um as everybody knows, we've got a lot of
money for um utilities uh which uh they've got a plan now for obviously the lift stations uh to be repaired and updated as well as storm drains. Got a comprehensive plan to do that. Um I've been discussed with Andy about a
comprehensive plan for the water manes. We have one that runs under the river. Um it runs through the um the waterfront as part of it and then it runs between catches and poor Richie across the river. That's eventually going to need
to be replaced. It's it's not an emergency but it's got to be replaced. That's a huge project to take that and get it engineered and run across the bridge and of course approved by DOT. You're looking at over a year and a couple million dollars to do that.
So, if I if I could ask you on that on that pipe, you say it needs to be replaced. Whatever. What What if you had a conversation? The subacquis pipe that's there now at where the limestone pier was is functional, right? Councilman Hover was talking about for
the future maybe on the 19 bridge. But in order before we do that right now, um the water manes on the other side over by limestone would probably blow out. They're rusted,
corroded, falling apart, um galvanized pipe and saltwater intrusion like most of the pipes in in the city. So that I think should be put through. I think we should let Andy, you want to go ahead and talk about what we've talked about?
Certain one of the uh appropriations we got from the state this year, we we haven't actually received the funds yet, but um we we met this week, met with the councilman, and uh we think those neighborhoods on the south side is probably the place to start with the
galvanized pipe and uh as best as pipe lining uh swap outs and uh so we'll come back with a more detailed written plan and some slides to show you, but we we're going over priority Those pipes I think we said were about 60 years old
probably. So they're they're disintegrated. Yeah. And it's a pure drive mallet beams and putting a fire hydrant. We don't have a fire hydrant over there. Um if if we put all this in motion there's also pipes over there. There are concrete and
asbestous and that those can be replaced by the asbesus replacement grant that fund. Yes sir. And that act. So that helps. But I want to put a comprehensive plan to show the state and Mike what we're doing with the money, how that's being spent, and why
we're doing it and why what we need to do in the future. We're looking at probably a 10 12 year plan about $70 million. We're putting 40 million to a new plant with reverse osmosis, but we're feeding the water meters with
crappy rust lines and that need they need to be replaced and we need to now that we've got the state on our side as far as getting this done. We need to keep pushing and pushing and I'm ready to go to Cali Hazy in January with Mike to sell them on what we're doing and
what we need to continue to keep doing so we can do you know I just need a comprehensive plan which we talked about which you're preparing to do. Daryl's the greatest guy for this. Yes, sir. And we're going to just keep putting this together. We're going to keep going to Tallahass and we're going to keep getting the money to get this done for the citizens.
Well, we're going to, as I said, we'll focus on the southside the uh the waterfront district where it's it's it's good that's not going first because we don't know what the developers got planned yet. We'll meet with them again next week, but we can do the that in the right
order. So, but I think the priority for the the 2.5 million is on the south side that you helped eliminate. Well, it's 3.1 million because we got a $600,000 match. That's right. So, we we've got $3.1 million. 600,000 of ours, 2.5 of the states. And to Bob's
point, we need to be We're not looking at where we're going to deploy that with it. We're going to have a a timephased plan and starting it down there. But I'd like to have something when we go to see Mike. This is what this is our
plan. This is what we're doing with what we have. This is what we need to do. This is this is asbestous and concrete. We're getting that from someone else like on Sunset, but limestone is all the way down to Dedra is is falling apart and that's another whatever it cost two
three million dollars. So, we have tests that need to be done and it needs to be done pretty quick. Yeah. So S, you were probably involved with this. When Matt was here and he put this appropriation together, I'm trying to wrap my head around, I
guess, why we only asked for 2.5 million if that didn't cover everything that we need because Bob's talking about 70 million. So I'm trying to I'm trying to make that jump. Why is Matt put this together very very quickly in order to get something sent to the state. Um, I do agree with Councilman
Hubard is that this is this is an ongoing project. You're not just going to do this all in one shot. Um I think that a combination of a utility master plan along with starting this project should be put in ahead to at least, you know, we see what what it is and when we're going to start replacing these
lines. And then once again, you know, utility maintenance is the same as any other maintenance program. You know, we have to we have to keep staying on top of it every year, do so much. And again, it's just like the dredging project that we want to do. That's that's not that's not a oneanddone type of thing. we're going to be dredging for several years
and then by the time you get to the end, you're gonna want to redo the maintenance program. You know, you know, you're not going to go as deep, but you're gonna continue. And you know, you you know, our our team is very good at maintaining the lines, but fixing brakes and stuff like that, but fixing these
lines has been a longterm city problem, and we have to we have to get a program in place, stay with it, and and and stay with it. Uh, as far as like what what Matt asked for that particular point, he talked to me and Daryl about that particular area because of the galvanized lines
and the on the south side of the city. Um, and as far as concrete, I know green, you know, uh, Greenream does. Um, and I'd have to I'd have to confer with Daryl and see where our other focal points are, but the southside portion of the city because it's one of our lowest portions and the fact that there's
galvanized line in there needs the most attention. So his context around that was for those specific types. His idea when I talked to him the other day was he said he didn't just put out a number to see if it would work and what
like like S said we can't ask for $70 million, right? Because they're going to give us $70 million to spend it over 10 15 years. So what we're doing, we're showing we're good stewards with what we have and what we found with the money that you gave us.
This is what we're doing. and what we need to continue to do and we're going to be here every year because in with what the projects demand at that time to continue to do what we need to get done to make because they don't want bad pipes. They want them fixed. They don't
want like a Flint, Michigan deal. So, as long as we're good stewards with what they've gave us, we'll continue to get it, I believe, if we show good comprehensive programs and a and and a program to get this done. And I think I said in 1015 years all the water mans
even outside the city will be replaced. So that water plant will be have purified water right to the meter for every citizen in Port Richie and outside the city that we feed water to. So it it sounds like we have kind of a place to use that
$3.1 million. So it's just a matter of showing that in the comprehensive plan with the rest of the thing here. Here's what else we have to do and here's the age of these or whatever. But I think I think we know what we need to do with this 3.0. I I think the more that we're we're going to we're going to apply to the state, we should just, you know, you
know, like Councilman Hubbert said, we should have a plan. I mean, the thing is that, you know, the last year, um, Matt Matt worked, um, incredibly, uh, efficiently and quickly to get something submitted because we were trying to get that ball rolling. But now that we have that ball rolling and we know that
there's going to be a return, we should we should proceed with, you know, deeper scopes, you know, and definite ideas, that way the our lobbyists can pitch that to the state and more and show more detail. And I think that's what we need to do moving forward is um because if we're if we're going to ask for more
money and and I've already conferred with the city manager about projects that we have that are much more than we've we've just received and if we're going to start asking for more I think detailed scopes is going to is going to be required. We did pretty good without a plan last year or early this year. So I think we can with a plan I think we can still
and I'm just I'm just talking to you guys about let Andy move forward to get this comprehensive plan with Daryl and S so we have something when we go see Mike in a few weeks we can tell this is what we're working on and by the time he goes to Tallahassee hopefully we'll have all
all the tests done and everything. We can have it in writing and we show them what we we actually did what we're doing and what we're going to be doing in the future. So, they expect it and they're going to be happy that we're being good stewards with the money and we're being very uh professional about Yes,
I'm not knocking Andy or the staff or Daryl or anybody, but when it comes to figuring out what pipes need to be replaced at what places they need to replace on this is more study than just an internal staffing. You know, you almost need
expert opinions on this. Am I right, Anthony? Is there some type of It it costs money, but it would be very welcomed as we we do repairs and things, but our guys can't put in a multi-million dollar project. We don't have the equipment or even understand. It's almost like it's almost like a cross word puzzle.
You got to start in one place and work your way to another one or you got to start here and work your way back or something like that. There's a way to do it. Well, like I said, that's what I if you if you to make an appointment, talk with Daryl and Andy and he'll show you. They work on the pipes. They know all he knows all the pipes and the local place.
I I can tell you right now, any engineer, any company you hire, they're going to talking to staff and you know, 85 90% of that input is going to come from people who are on the ground handling that every single day. So, we don't need an engineer to engineer this stuff. Just say you didn't need one. What I'm saying
is that they're going to confer with staff on these projects. Of course, they is that that's why we said like a utility master plan to formulate a plan. Um just like if you were to do a asphalt study um you wanted to tell me right now what roads you know after the paving and
whatnot we did I would suggest to you another asphalt study to show where our roads right now between the reclamide that we've done and the paving that we've done and then that way you would see that study. But once again that's that's going to be an input with staff and a and a and a collaboration with
staff on that. Um, you know, Daryl's been Daryl's been in the boot on the ground since he first started here, you know, and has been constantly working and and the and all the other workers that he has with him and some of the some of that experience ranges from almost to 20 years of experience in this particular utility. So, you're you're
going to have that with an engineer, but I do agree with that because you're going to need some sort of with any project that you're going to pitch to the state or to anyone else, they're going to want to see it on paper. They're going to want to see they're going to want to see detailed drawings or a detailed plan of what's going to be done. And just like your comprehensive
plan or any other plan that you do for the city, you're going to have to have an expert on that. And I you know, I agree with both of you, but I think we're all on the same page here and what what to do to move forward. I I guess all I want to make I mean Bob, you're all over it. I've been working on this with them for
over a year. You're all over it and and I think that's great. But I think we need a comprehensive plan that says, "Okay, we're going to start here. Pop." That's 2.5 million. We're going to kick 600 in. Pot B is here. We're going to need this much here. So, they can see this line. That's what I'm asking to do.
Exactly. Are you capable of doing that, Andy, or is that something that gets a little deeper than that? Because we're we're just paying 500 grand to go check seagrass and and we'll be hiring an engineering. What's that? We'll be we'll be hiring a frog, this and I think it's been described well.
They count on local knowledge and we count on their expertise. Got it. Okay. So it all gets drawn up and it all has Oh yeah. Yeah. So we'll go sit and stand in front of Mr. Hooper up in Tallahassee and say this is why we're doing this because of this and this is what we're doing. Do we have two weeks to do that right
now, Bob? Actually, I can sit sit in there with Sal and Sal and Daryl can pretty much do it with us. Yeah. And we need as far as getting Mike something he can present next year so we can continue to go because we haven't got the first money because we don't have plan in place yet.
Not yet. No, we're not. Exactly. we're not going to be able to show a lot done. So, I think it the more we can show we have a multi-year I think we we show is if we had a heat map of the city and we show and you know in red here's the here's the pipes we're focused on for the 3.1 that we just got
and we're in process of working on replacing those and then here's here's where we're going to try to get funding for this section whichever attributes it has how old they are whatever the green areas in a couple years we're going to need to do these just map the city out just think something's better than
nothing right now and we can always bring back a fine-tune thing years from now. We don't want to miss out on some money next year. I just like explain it to Mike now, but by the time he goes to January, we need to have a portfolio of of our future comprehensive water main plan.
Yeah. Okay. Thank what business. Um well, I wanted to say first before the meeting, I didn't get a chance to. I want to thank uh our uh chiefs aka Batman here for the job he's been doing as citizens and bragging about him. I I
I got a lot of compliments and it's really nice to see promises made and promises kept and u Frank's doing it. So just want to say kudos. Thanks. I appreciate that. And also we almost got in concrete.
Sal's wanted to something to say about firework display. Uh yes, we're um we're we're talking to the vendor that we had the done the fireworks in May. Um they're formulating a multi-year contract um to do it on the 1st of every year. So it would be it
would be July 1st of every year. They're going to go back to a barge setup because you know conferring with the fire department that that's a much safer setup um that we had in the past. We're going to go back to a barge setup and they're going to formulate. They're just waiting for tariff possible tariff input, you know,
um impacts to come through so they can give us a final quote. But we were um we've been discussing doing a multi-year contract. So then that way this isn't something we have to do every single year with council. Um you know, we want to do this for the fourth, you know, we want to do a fourth of July event every
year. It's something we've done pretty much every year except for the year that we just had with the centennial. We that's that was only because we didn't want to do too so close. But um that's the direction we're going forward. If council has any issues with that, you know, let me know now so I can go back to that.
What? Go ahead. I I mean I'm like July 1st is a Wednesday. Tuesday. Tuesday. Yeah. So I mean my whole family's not even going to be here. So we're going to be celebrating by myself. Don't see looking at the fireworks. If you're going to do it, you got to do it
on the actual day to get the bang for your buck to have people enjoy it. They can't be everywhere on that same day. I don't think we adjust our schedule, then we find somebody else to do it. Yeah. I So I don't like the the set day just because it could be on stupid days
like a Tuesday, Wednesday, whatever. I mean, nobody I mean you kind of want it to be on a Friday or Saturday. Yeah. Really? So, I would rather do something like the first Friday of the month, first Saturday of the month or something like that as opposed to
locking in a particular day that's going to float the whole time. Be hard to get a contract like that though because I think it's easy to get a contract like that as would be to say the first of every I mean, you can walk out your house in the city just about anywhere and see the firework display which is fortunate for
us. Uh, but it gives you a chance you want to see Richie. I mean, some nights it'll fall on the same night as New Richie. Some years every seven years it'll be on a Saturday or Friday or a Sunday and then like three days, three years it'll be on the
weekend and then four years it'll be during the week sometime. But at least everyone will know the first of July we're going to have a firework display and it's going to be the best value we can find right now. It's going to be should be a great display just like the Centennial be a little bit better
because we even got more money. uh set up for it. So, um to get get a fivey year or four-year contract with somebody and know you're going to have it, trying to have it on on a Saturday, uh I don't think we can I don't think we can do it.
And then we talked to Gary about this and you have a problem like on weekends and getting staff people well a holiday doing on a holiday is hard telling employees you have holiday off then we have to have the mandatory people come in on a holiday. So the actual holiday
is the issue. Whatever day is the holiday. Yeah. So the first we'll have plenty we'll have manpower no problem. You put on the fourth we won't. Weekends we won't because they're off and you're asking them to cancel vacations with their family to do this.
But if we look at that through this same lens, the people that are going to be watching it, right, who it's for, the same people they got off, right? You know what I'm saying? So they're they're going to be working because on that first of every month at nine o'clock at night. Some might be. But
hold on. Some might be working on Saturday night, too. What's that? Some might be working on a Saturday night. I used to I never could see it because I worked on Saturdays. But I'm just saying some people are Everybody should be home by six o'clock. Most people. What? Hey, Chopper. What?
Before you your What is it? Every fourth sat last Saturday of June. Black Saturday Gina Lens Newport. So obviously we wouldn't want to conflict with that. If I may, we thought that fed nicely in the the sister cities and we could be known for it's predictable. It's better for the staff. It's better for the first
responder Manning and uh making the holiday the holiday and we could be, you know, first in fun, first in fireworks, first in freedom. And we we but we might be second because we're following Mayor Chopper's uh thing on the last last week of Yeah. So,
but you can become known for this because we're competing against towns with much bigger budgets. So, we thought it's a way with we're competing for a limited number of firework providers that have with towns that have bigger budgets. So, we thought it's something we could lock in and be
predictable. We started this, you know, people been around 25 years ago. some number like that because the mall always did it on the 4th, you know, so we didn't want to compete with the mall. So, we started it on the last Saturday of June. And one of the other reasons that it grew so well
as much as it does, it's a Saturday, so you have all kinds of things going on during the day and then the fireworks kind of end the night. So, you're choosing a day, you know, you could choose you could choose the last Sunday of June, you know, and you'd have a whole day of events down at your park and then have the fireworks ended off
just as an idea. Yeah. And so that's you know I really think we ought to I wouldn't do it any time other than a Thursday, Friday or Saturday if you want to do middle week but you know going on a Monday Tuesday it you're not going to
I mean it's not for us it's for the residents right and it's for the surrounding area and it's you know unless it was on the 4th. Now, if it was if we do it on the 4th, then I I would say yes, it's the fourth July. But outside of that, you know, I I
would rather pick a day on the as close week as possible and just go with that. Well, we're trying to put the best display for the the citizens that we can and and the the they aren't they're booked. I get they're not available all these days that we want to want to do it on.
Some days some years they might be and some years they might not be. They did they did an excellent job for Centennial. I have no and and if that doesn't necessarily guarantee it's going to be great next time, but we we assume that, right? But they're not the only company in the world fireworks. And
so I don't want to get I don't want to I don't want to make a weird date just to try to accommodate as one vendor. No, not accommodating. I'm thinking of the staff, too. I'm thinking the staff and I'm thinking of the citizens, too. what I was talking about. I talked about everything, but it but we got we got to
do something now because they're all they're all booked up. Yeah. I mean, you're trying you go try to bid out and say I just want it on every Friday night, the last Friday of June or the last Sunday of June or you're going you're eliminating yourself. Well, this this company for next year,
what dates do they have available? Well, they're they're still open to dates. I mean, it's, you know, the thing is, yes, the fourth the fourth is probably locked in with them by now because they they they work multiple shows. Um, even even on even on May 18th when they did ours, they did three other shows in in different areas that night.
So, they they work multiple shows. Um, from what they told me is that the third and fourth were booked. Um, but I can ask them about the 28th, Sunday the 28th, which would be the day after Newport Richie. So, then we can do ours the day after. And then that way people
would come to us just like they would go to them. And the thing is is that once we have a locked date and start doing this, we can promote this well in advance so people will know about it. So I I'm not sure if if you're like this year 28th to Sunday. I think what they're asking is like to be the last
month like the last Sunday of June or the last Friday of June every year that that day. Not necessarily the date would change instead. No. Yeah, I mean if you if you're open to locking in the Sunday and doing it every the fourth the fourth Sunday of June that's we can lock in that and then
that way we'll always coincide with new Richie. I think Friday personally I think Friday because you're talking about people working they gota get work Monday morning but they don't Saturday morning but then like he's talking about having event all day you know they may not be able to do that but they would be able to participate in
the fireworks display but I mean that's the discussion you know Friday night or Sunday night if you want to do it a Sunday night every year he could go to the vendor the last Sunday of June and see if that would work or the Friday before I mean
you know that's even farther away from the 4th of July. If I may, I I don't have a dog in the sun because I personally hate fireworks. They're bad for vets, pets, and wildlife. So, but the city wants fireworks. We'll do fireworks, but we're missing an opportunity to lock it in. We can't get the third fourth. They said they were
booked. Other companies may be, but again, those nights for the 250th birthday of the United States, it's going to be a busy Saturday night. I don't think we'll be able to compete for anybody else. We might be missing an opportunity to celebrate first responders. celebrate first responders, honor them on the first of the month.
So, some thoughts been put into this, we can backtrack and and stop, but trying to get the fourth every year is probably a non-starter and uh and out of our price range. Yeah. I I don't I don't think we should do it on the fourth for sure. It's just the cost is not we do a better show not on the fourth.
But, I mean, if we just go out of the box for just a minute, what are we spending on fireworks? 30,000 budgeted. about 20 grand. 20 20 for the We budgeted 30. That's a bunch of
different stuff, but just the fireworks about 20 grand. The budget line is 30 other events. I mean, we got Newport Rich doing fireworks on Saturday. Is there something else we could do with 23 grand to celebrate our first responders, our
police, and our community, and our 250th anniversary? Some of them blowing that stuff up in the air and the drone drone shows. Drone shows are a big thing, but they're pricier right now. But that's something we can look further into. Maybe the price will come. Mayor came up with a good idea. I thought he wanted to have a mayor's ball
every year. I thought we could have a fireman's ball one year, a policeman's ball another year, utilities ball, you know, and we could hand out awards possibly for them at that particular time or
something. I have a there's a lot of fireworks around here already. You know, there's already a lot of fireworks. You can hear them. You can see them. You can sit out there on your deck and watch them from all around Surround Cities. I'm just wondering if there's something else we could do then dump 23 grand in fireworks that
would be meaningful and lasting that would last more than 15 minutes or whatever it is. Well, well, maybe we should instead of have a discussion about unlocking a multi-year contract, why don't we just focus on getting a contract for next year? How we're going to do next year? Yes. Thank you. Okay. That's you know two three years now we
can always change things right. Okay. So next year July 3rd is on Friday. July 4th is on Saturday. The first will be on Wednesday. 5th would be Sunday. And then if you talk about going back to June obviously Newport Rich is going to do
theirs on June 27th. And then ours if we did the Sunday would be the 28th and we did the third Friday the 3rd. Yes. To see if they're available. Third was booked, right? Third's booked, I believe. Well, with that particular with that particular company, yes, but city hall will also be closed on that
day in honoring the independence day. I mean I'm just city hall to do this. Well, I suffix the majority of your staff will be staff staff will be on if you they're going to be they're not working on Sunday either, right?
So maybe the Sunday the 29th Sunday the Friday. I mean does is it just me or is staff not work Sunday too? Just trying to understand that same problem, right? Three day weekend, they're going to be on vacation. But a holiday weekend obviously is people want to go somewhere if you
that's I think that's difference. Working Sunday or Saturday, not a big deal. But if you got a three-day weekend, 24/7. So one way or the other, don't revolve around the fire department. We work 247. Whatever you guys decide, we'll figure out and work. The only thing I was saying was when it's a holiday weekend,
holiday weekend, it makes it a little different. That's because people want to go somewhere for holiday weekend. So I think it's that's reasonable. Yes. So that and that probably works for Newport Richie too. It's not falling on the holiday weekend. So maybe for next year we look at the Sunday after theirs
and we'll think about it going forward. What's your thoughts on that? I think we'll make a one-year commitment and we talk about it. That's what I think. Yeah. Sunday the day after port. You think it's a little bit much?
People love to go firework. Is this old business? Yeah, we're going to try and lock it in. We're milking it out like a dairy cow. Give us a minute here. So, what you want to do is Sunday right after Richie this next year and
and or we could be on the punch Friday. Okay. Pick a day. I don't really care. You know, it's What do you think, Christine? I really don't care what my What do you think, S? 28th, Sunday.
What would st What was staff prefer? Right. Well, it's not about what staff prefers. It's just I mean, you know, it's just the fact that I believe that one of the reasons that Newport Richie does does theirs the weekend before is because they do know that it's a holiday weekend. And it's not it's not just
staff that are going to be off, but everyone goes on vacation, you know, for that weekend. I mean, and that that's that's it's not just about staff, but what it is is that, you know, the PD is going to be escalated on that on that weekend because everyone's going to be launching fireworks all, you know, all throughout that all throughout that
night. And it's it's a it's a holiday weekend. It's not July 4th. It's not going to be on a weekday. It's not going to be very busy. We're off that weekend. I'm talking about I'd re I would personally recommend doing it either the Friday before Newport Richie or the Sunday after. That's my recommend the Sunday after.
Any objections to Sunday after chief? What do you think? We'll make it work. No objections. What will be your preference? We'll make it work Sunday after. Sunday. All right. So, Sunday after. Sorry about that. I thought we had it figured out. I will I will get close for counsel and
move forward with that. Thank you. Any other old business? Sunday afternoon. Yeah. Right. No, not really. Well, Dave, we got 45 minutes. You got anything? Dave doesn't get a whole business option. The uh department
did do some uh on the pier limestone pier. I have not been able to look at it yet. My boat blew up when I went to look at it. So, we're getting the fire boat in the water or one boat in water so we can go look at it. Hopefully, in a day or two, we'll have that figured out. I sent you
I know it's still there. Thursday at 10 o'clock. I sent you an invitation for Thursday at 10 o'clock. When did you send that? I sent it today. So you'll on your computer you'll see when you go home. All righty. Thursday. Let me see what we got here. Any other
old business? Okay, seeing none, I will move on to comments from the mayor, city council. I'll start start with our new council woman. I did not come prepared with comments tonight. I did not. But I I appreciate um the opportunity to serve with you and
I'm looking forward to getting busy and get my hands dirty finally. It's great. Thank you. Congratulations. Um I wanted to bring up something. You know, there's been talk um here the past week or so over um standing water, which
we've had a lot of rain and water is standing and but one of the streets was Lorenzan between Washington and um Grand and it it flooded a lot of places during those rains, but it does always that is
a problem in that area. Somebody should look into that. I heard that it's been looked into multiple times and that it's too expensive that we don't have the funds to I I did look into it. So I did. Yeah. So what
I I during the the last three to four inch downpour we had I mean it was water was there was a foot of water coming out of the place where I was eating dinner. Okay. And so I said you know what I got this much water here. I'm going to drive by and take a look at the Renzen. I drove by there. There's two drains that
are out there right on the corner of the house right there um where Blake's progress is right there where and all the water was going down the drains. There was one drain that had his blue hose wrapped around it a couple times and I talked to him about that today.
Okay. And there was some trash in there. I mean it me in my world when something's clogged up you pull the stuff out of you clean it out. There was no water in his yard and the ditch that had been cleaned out by Daryl and his crew was flowing like a a freight train. Yeah. So, and that's what I saw and it was
flooding everywhere else, but his stuff was dry and high. So, I think if we keep that drainage great cleaned out, you know, if the if the tenants help the people in the community help keep that cleaned out, if we keep the blue exhaust the hose wrapped around that thing was
blocking over half the drain. So, so staff has that on their radar. I mean they've probably since I've been elected because I've I've heard from Mr. Snider and I'm aware of his issue as well and it is an issue over there that one side street comes in is actually
concave in the middle so it kind of acts as a water channel to go down there chap way it was designed and he is in a low spot and he's the lowest spot um and if if the drain infrastructure there is not functioning at its optimal point it
could it progress the problem very quickly and so staff has been there probably 15 some times in the last two years to proactively keep that clean at all so it does flow. I as well drove over there and I I always tried to have heavy rains just got take a look at that area over there and when I went over
there was not any flooding going on. The water was flowing. Matter of fact, it wasn't even a lot of water in the ditch which tells me it was working at its optimal point. Um, but again, when you have when you have a a rain event like we had, there is going to be flooding and there's no amount of drainings
draining systems that you can put in place that can mitigate for that amount of rainfall because what happens is is the ground can't hold it. Uh, it's saturated. It's like a it's like a full sponge. It's water's going to hit it. It's going to sit on top of it to roll off it and roll to the lowest point. Um, it just can't it just can't consume that
into the ground. Um, and so then the swailes start to get inundated and then as you have tidal events coming in and out, which tides up, the water can't go anywhere and so it's going to back up. So it's, you know, it's I can tell you since living here for more than 40 years, the water drainage
right now is better I've ever seen it. It's more hands off to Daryl and his crew. Washington, you know, Washington used to flood over there by your house used to flood all the time. Now it's draining. Blue Point, we used to have problems there. Daryl solved the problem there. really done. I can take a Bay Boulevard for the
apartments. Anytime you had something like you had, there was water in the road and I drove through there and didn't have any water in the road. Yeah. I mean, he solved so many of our problems and and we got to keep Yeah. Blake's our resident. We got to take a look. Yeah. We're going to keep working on it. The problem we have is the high tide flooding over on Sunset. You should take
your Tesla down there on a 4 foot tide and see how that works out. Let him know what I'll put my Tesla up against anybody's board any day, buddy. So, the moral story is is, you know, when we have these heavy rains, there's going to be some people that are in the
the most the most vulnerable areas are going to see some water. Um, and and so we need to we need to be aware of that. And obviously, we need to try to to to mitigate that best possible. And and the best course of action is to take the system that we have and make sure that
it's operating at its optimal point. It's unclogged. It had the trash in it. It's dug out. as long as we stay on top of that. Um, obviously as we look forward in the future, uh, and maybe we we look for some drainage money through the state. Um, there are some things we could probably do with retention ponds.
I know there's some property around Lorenzan that I mentioned when Matt was here that we could possibly buy that we could put a retention pond in maybe help that area and turn into a a small park for that area, but has a it holds some water. Um, so there's things I think we could do in that area. We need to be
proactively looking at that. But in the in the meantime, we need to make sure that we're just being on top of that. We know rain's coming like that. Get out there and give a cursory check and make sure stuff's being pulled out. And Daryl's doing that. And so on top of it, it's it's it shows
back there. Okay. Like to make a motion to adjourn. Hold on. You get You want to do your comments? Comment. Okay. Let me address this because I Yeah. So, vice mayor, mayor, you know, obviously anybody can make a
motion to journ any time in the meeting and it can be second and we can get out. No, I'm sorry. I thought we were done. But, you know, it it it comes across to me as rude when we're in the middle of the agenda item or we're middle of comments from the staff. Not the staff, but the the council mayor that somebody
wants to make a motion. I don't know if it's a joke or whatever, but let's let's let's try to give everybody their time. We we all want to get out of here as quickly as possible, but everybody needs to make their time for comments and you haven't had yours yet. So, um go forward if we could just hold the motions to adjourn until we've finished city
business. I appreciate that. So, vice mayor, mayor. Oh, sorry. Did you ask? Before we adjourn, before we adjourn and before anyone moves, I want to take a picture with the clerk and they still got They're not done yet. Okay. I just want to make sure I get a picture for the for Facebook and the website for um council.
Absolutely. Vice Mayor, Mayor Jennings. Um, I just wanted to say a couple things. I wanted to thank Linda for her service here and I did, you know, Linda has done great things for our city and obviously, you know, there's a time and
a place for everything and I'm thankful for her service. I'm I'm very thankful that you're here, Christine. I think you're going to bring a lot to the table. I did vote for Matt because I think Matt's a great candidate for this job, but that doesn't mean he's any better than you are. I want you to know that. All right. So, thank you for being
here. Thank you for serving with us. We're blessed to have you here. I really mean that. That's all I have to say. Okay, Cub. Well, you said I had a comment. I like the mayor said, Linda, you have served here. You've done great
and we appreciate you being here. And as he said, it's a hard decision. And as I told you, don't be don't be a stranger. Stay in touch. And uh uh things always seem to work out for the best. And I met
my best friend. I've known Matt since he moved here. And I I he worked for me and I helped him out. He's helped me out. And it's hard. But as I went door to door and I explained to the citizens of this town, I'm going to sit up here and do what's best for the city and for them. I'm not here for my friends or
myself. I'm here to do what I think is going to be best for the city. It can change, but right now this is the decision I made because I think it's the right decision. I may be wrong, but that's why I made the decision because I
think it's right for this time. I think Matt or Linda has a place up here and time maybe they will be up here and it's like I said, hope they both, you know, don't be strangers and and stay in place and and we do appreciate very much that you came in here. Keep it up.
Thank you. Um, I don't have any real comments. I just I read that the operation that chief you guys did with the the gambling uh facilities. Fantastic work. Good to see that. I I know that uh like David mentioned, I received letters from anonymous folks
about that as well as as as people who who were concerned about it. It's been a long time coming. Fantastic work. Glad that's uh in the past and hopefully we can keep those those operations out there. Deserves a hand that And um the uh the last thing I think again reiterate, glad you're here, Christine. I think it'll be a valuable
asset to the council. Linda, thanks for coming. Matt's already left, but uh again, it's very tough decision. Um you know, we I wish we had more capacity up here to to have more input, but we always have room out here and and maybe at some point we have some more comfortable chairs that would uh would
uh be a little more palatable and and get your your feedback. So definitely stay involved. Uh, with that I will accept a motion at this point for sure. Motion making a motion again. Motion. Is there a second? I'll second it. Okay. All in favor by saying I.
I go back quick five minutes and that's right. Everything is a bad picture.