Really? >> They don't move. >> Okay. But you can touch it. So it's obviously um There you go. So all you do is touch a micro microphone slightly and it goes off and on. That's if you want to tell
>> you can leave it on also because you know as long as you're not rustling papers or something >> sometimes sometimes will take his candy wrappers and stuff and I have to turn it off. I'd like to call to order the Port
Richie Historical Preservation Committee. Today is Mar April >> 8th 9th >> April 9th, 2026. and stand for the pledge of >> allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Okay.
Do a roll call here. I >> chairman H. That's me. I'm here. >> Vice Chairwoman Christine Sullivan >> here. >> Member Beva Stevenson. >> Stevenson here. >> Member Kim Lucari.
>> No. Courtney Tuttle >> out. Member Courtney Tuttle. >> Okay. Now we need to approve the minutes from our last meeting. And you have a copy of them. You weren't
here last meeting, so you were able to read over them. >> I believe so. Don't know. >> Yeah, that's okay. Um, I'd like a motion to enter the
minutes from the last meeting. Motion to enter the meetings or the minutes from the last meeting. >> The date in front of me. >> I second. >> February 12th, 2026. >> I can't. I I second. Did you make a move
to Yeah. Okay. I second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> I >> I approved. Okay. Do we have any comments from the general public? I don't see anybody here. So,
no, not today. Please come join us. Okay. Today, our agenda, organization, nomination of committee members. We do need a secretary. So, if anybody's Yes, >> I would like to nominate Courtney only
feel like I know you work full time, too. Yeah. I can get here. >> We do meet um is it like every other month? So, it's not every month. >> So, is that something you're interested in? >> Okay. >> Okay. >> I'll second that motion.
>> I'm supposed to do >> I I >> You have to help me. >> There we go. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Um, could I could I ask something on that? So to help Courtney, would she
could she use a recording device to help with a if you have to go back on, but she can also record and it'll be on YouTube. If you ever need to go back and >> just Yeah, this routine um
on YouTube >> we'll have a link to this and then we can just review that. >> Yep. Uh >> I don't know if recording devices outside of city equipment are >> I don't think so. Yeah, but I know it's there. >> Yeah.
>> So, okay. So, we have a secretary and now discussion on the development of the historical preservation committee. All right. You're in one, right?
I guess I can um I would like to know if I could hear any what kind of conversation went on with Gabriella or Dale for Okay. >> Yes, I did have a conversation with Gabrielle. She was very nice, very
helpful. >> And this is a Newport Richie Preservation Board, >> correct? um that they are the city personnel that work with our volunteer preservation board, >> right? >> Yes. >> Yeah. She did uh email me back and we
had a a video conversation and she gave me some ideas and she says, of course, and this makes absolute sense, we want to start with setting goals, >> you know, what do we want? What do we want to get out of it? What do we what are we looking for? you know, like uh
the goal you were showing us last week with the uh old high school and all that you've done with that. So, you know, we want to set some goals um and how to designate and and what does
it mean historical preservations, ordinances, code of ordinance, and that kind of stuff. >> And she said she would be happy to come you know, when we get stuff started to come in and help us and talk.
It's interesting too because someone suggested to me just this evening that I highly respect and he said it would be because we're sort of rel relatively new because for a while we we had the
preservation board then it wasn't going and now we've initiated it back again. But he has said it would be neat if we were all in it together as we work
forward. But I don't know if anything like that would be possible because we're just in the beginning stages of um being a certified local government for the preservation board. Mhm.
>> So, we're just started on that. And I can if I can do this, I can give you a little bit of a summary. Um, what we are working on is that
application to be certified in order to be able to then work on the guidelines of the kinds of things we're looking for. >> Right. That's one of the things she had mentioned certification
to state to designate things. >> Yes. As historical. >> I have this paperwork which is the action plan that Gabriella and Dale had put together for us moving forward.
And the there are three topics or subtop topics under that formulation, implementation and preservation.
And so, um, one of the things that, um, we had to do was complete of each member a form and it was, um, an application for
certification. So, it was part of the process that they're doing. So, we each had to fill this form out. name, address, phone number, occupation. Um, give a brief description of your demonstrated special interest, knowledge
or training in fields related to historic preservation. And then another question was historic preservation training received. And of course, some of us have not had some of that. So, right. And then one of the uh last parts
I thought interesting that Dale went into our meeting just this past week. Um are you a member of the Florida Historical Society, the Florida Trust for Historic Preservation
and or the National Trust for Historic Preservation or a County Historical Society. So, like I was able to put West Pasco Historical Society that I'm on for
>> for West Pasco. So, Dale brought up something interesting and maybe if we could check this out is these memberships usually cost it would cost each of us
>> money. So, it might be that we could ask the city if they have a fund for our board that then the city could possibly those funds could pay for us to be in each of
those. >> Yeah. >> Which would be good. >> And so that was that's one of the forms that we had to fill out. And then on the back um are you or have you ever been a member of any other government board or
commission? So this is just part of documentation that is part of the process. >> So that's why it would be kind of neat if we all each time go to the other one to work together, but that might involve
too much. I don't know. And it kind of sounds like it'd be a good idea if we had some training and if we could um >> I think it would give us more direction, >> right? Find some training and find out what the cost of that is and see if there is any possibility of
reimbursement for that. >> Or or Dale for their time to come, >> right? If that qualifies as actual training. >> Yeah, I certainly would think so, but I I don't know what they're allowed to do. just like I'm sharing this, but I don't
know what I'm allowed to do or not to do, but um they did come up with an action plan and um we went over this just this past week. So, you can see what stage we're
in. So before you can start looking for and come up with a list of what you're looking for us to preserve or get on the historic preservation >> our goals so to speak. Yeah. >> Yeah. So um the the first part establish
standards and evaluation criteria for locally designated properties of historic significance. establish a system of survey and inventory for locally designated properties of significance and become a certified local government. So that's
our first step that we're working on and that's what the city employees are doing for us and this paper I was talking about was part of that process and then implementation
is the um part that also the city employees are doing developing intake review and issuance process petitions for designation of historic significance appropriately inform citizen of the city's preservation efforts in order to
develop the local register of historic places and develop an intake review and issuance process for certificates of appropriate appropriateness for locally designated properties. So
they have submitted now to our city manager for review um all this paperwork that's needed. So it is so I think it would be you know we if we could reach out to them first of
all to see if they could take an hour or so for or two for a workshop and share that >> you know this is new to me so I'm sharing with you and then then the the third subtopic
is preservation so um that's where we start reviewing petitions for designation according to adopted local standards and evaluation criteria and recommend designation of properties as historically significant to the city
council. So they have to all approve all this >> and then review and issue certificates of appropriate appropriatedness for locally designated properties that apply for a building permit, demolition permit, moving permit or sign permit. So
this really gets involved and then maintain a local register of historic places complete with accomp accompanying historical research and materials reviewed in the designation process. So our museum is kind of working with them
reusing a lot of their things. But remember this is West Pasco >> Historical Society Museum. So they would certainly have poor Richie. Oh, they do. I've been in there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. They have a lot of Fort Richie stuff. >> Yes. We've got so much save. Jeff Miller
did a phenomenal. >> When he passed, had we not had a way to save that, which is now on our website, but Fort Richie, and I can even give you an example. So, my family
Stevenson is a pioneer name. and that it was in the mid 1800s and they settled at they named Seven Springs which is where they had settled because of the waters but um then
go forward to the fourth generation which would be my grandparents. So, um, some of my family was here in Fort Richie area, but my grandfather's sister,
Green Key, you know where that is. >> So, grandpa's sister was married to Gibb Brown and history shows they never used the the wife's maiden name, of course. Mhm.
>> And so I was able to see that was grandpa's sister Kora. That was his wife. And they part of their foundation is still in the water out there. Yeah. And then grandpa's
another of grandpa, my grandfather's sister was Pearl Gains and Pearl married Lewis. And right where Courtourtney lives, right down the street is a little home where she lived.
They had a son named Basil. Be Basil was a sheriff for Pasco County. And so that's why I'm so interested in serving on this board, too. >> So, and then Courtney's got history because it's her greatgrandparents, I
believe, that had the marina to start with. >> 1956. >> Yame. So I think it even goes back further. >> New Jersey they came from. Yeah. Okay. So my kids are fifth gen were living in my grandparents house >> which is where? >> Right off of Sunset Boulevard. >> Oh, okay.
>> Which one is it? >> I'm off of Davis in Sunset. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Right there at the marina. The land is >> it's now it's like a like a teal. It was white. >> I live with the wraparound beach. >> Those are some of the oldest houses. I used to live in that area very very
well. That's why I'm staying there after a flooding. >> That's why I I coerced her into being because we have heart here. >> Absolutely. I grew up at the marina. So, I grew up in >> Me, too. >> I lived on Davis Street. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. I live in Davis. My
address is Davis. Yeah. But I'm right there. >> You know, the little white cottage right a couple of houses down >> south. That was Aunt Pearls. >> Yeah. >> Davis. >> Davis. What's going on? See, the house I
had, it was like up >> and it was a it was a small house. It had a old shed out in the back with metal top on it >> and we lived out there for a long time. That's why I met Johnny Cash. Yeah. >> My mom was on the tax collectors. She
worked there. And he'd go in, they'd let him in early to go pay all the taxes and get a fishing license and all that kind of stuff. >> I saw him at the marina all the time. >> Nice guy. >> Yeah. The little girl pat me on the head. >> Yeah. So I think it was your greatgrandfather that actually started. Yeah. Yeah. That
he actually he actually owned the property at Kane's Furniture and then he sold that property started the >> and he started >> where the bait shop was. >> He started the marina. Yeah. He he found the property over there where we live. They had several homes and >> I thought Hap Clark had owned that for a
while. >> No. Okay. >> H was over on the other side by Hooters. >> Okay. I know my dad Clark was Clark and he thought >> it look like a big deal but it is
>> yeah I think we you and I were talking before when we first started yeah that's cool um been around so yeah that's why Bevon got me involved >> we would develop preservation plans and design guidelines for the city and
locally designated properties And we even discussed the fact that there might be something that would be a a significant history to save. But that person once it's
>> as a historic there are certain things you can and cannot do. So they would have to be made aware of that. >> They would have to petition for it. Yes. >> Right. So they would have to be made aware and a pet petition. But it does make things like storm recovery. >> They just tore down one of my favorite
buildings down my road. >> Yep. So those are the kinds of things we would do. >> Um >> it was a gas station. >> Um we could even make recommendations to the city council conser
etc. for funds for historic preservation activities too. >> Right. >> So this is an action plan. >> Okay. >> That we could go with. Okay. >> Um if if it's okay, I guess we need to get permission from Newport Richie that
we could use their >> I don't believe so because that would be a matter of public record. So I don't believe we would need to get we do that a lot in council where we'll look at >> you know neighboring cities and kind of adopt their plans >> and we don't do it without making
changes but right now in the position that we're in with having you know nothing basically I think it would be best to adopt it as is with references to Newport Richie or anything change to Port Richie and then as we go as we see
things that we'd like to change that would make it >> tweak it to her, >> you know, more to Fort Richie, >> then we could make those changes at that time. But I'd say for now, we could even take an action to adopt that plan and we will have build step two tonight,
>> right? >> We will have completed that. And then since you're on that committee, you could help us along and then if they could come in and speak to us as well, then that' be great. We would be able to get going a lot faster >> for asking
>> or inviting or >> no not to ask somebody. >> So someone here can >> Yeah. No >> because you >> but we would have to take any um agenda items we have to take action on. So if we want to adopt that >> development of historical >> Yeah.
>> What exactly is that called >> on that one? So you have the >> city of Newport Historic Preservation Action Plan. Okay. So I'd like to make a motion to adopt um the historic preservation board
action plan as >> written >> as written by Newport Richie and mayor that for Port Richie. >> I second. Second. >> All those in favor? Hi. >> Hi.
>> Hi. >> Okay. >> Good. Well, then we've made a lot of progress tonight just with that. And thank you so much because how in the world would we progress without >> back out and review? It's like it's a lot when you got other stuff on your
brain, too. >> Sure. >> That'd be great. >> And since they're getting, you know, started. >> Yes. So, um >> maybe take a picture with our phone or something so we have a copy of it. >> What's that? take a picture. >> Yeah. Yeah.
>> So, I guess would we um trying to think about here would we need to this CLG application process?
>> Trying to think >> what sequence we would do. That would need to be another agenda item. Sorry, my phone. I think we would need to set that as an agenda item for the next meeting since we don't have an agenda item for that.
>> And perhaps Gabriella or Dale >> could maybe come right >> for us to get started on that. And maybe maybe at that point they can share those documents they have created or how
we go about >> doing that. >> Right. >> Right. You don't have any of that documentation here in front of us. Right. So we would need um we would need an agenda item for the next meeting and then um the paperwork and if they would
come and talk to us. Um, but that might even be better for the following meeting since we're kind of trailing Newport Richie and let them get ahead and then next meeting we could actually >> get some of the information about getting the classes and the
certifications, >> right? Yeah. Put that >> and that's something we've not really >> done yet. I you know, >> you just filled out the paperwork. >> Just fill out whatever you >> Yeah, we need to know what paperwork to do. >> Yeah, we're not I don't think we're at that stage yet. I think you know you're
a little more advanced. Um >> we're not >> which is perfect. >> I mean but you have some connections. >> Yeah. A step or two ahead of us so that we can kind of follow from that learn. >> Yes. Because I really didn't see Gabriella and Dale put that those
documents together for the city manager to review first. >> She haven't reviewed them. >> Okay. So >> yeah. >> Yeah, >> we have a guest there that >> Yes. Hi, >> welcome.
>> This is >> My name is Patrick 48 was it 4832 4862. >> Uh I'm here. I just want to learn about want to make a couple properties to store. I think they meet some of the requirements.
>> So I need to know like grab some paperwork and try to get them in stuff like that. >> Okay. Well, we are now we're closer. We are in the initial beginning stages. We're we're trying to get this this is our second meeting. So, the first meeting we appointed a chair or vice
chair. This meeting we appointed our secretary and now all of us having never been on a committee like this before except for Beva >> and I'm used to it for Newport Richie. So, I'm trying to I'm on this one too. I'm so I'm trying to remember all this
stuff to share with them. >> Right. So, she's going to kind of spoon feed us stuff that's going on in Newport Richie so that we can get this um started. >> I think it'd be great if you left your name and maybe the address or the properties. >> Yeah, I'll get actually what I'll do is I'll I'll build the presentation and
stuff kind of get that so you guys can all have it kind of a better idea what's going on and stuff like that. Why want to do it? >> Okay. >> You know, obviously it's waterfront, >> right? >> You know, we get another flood or something. >> Sure. Can we ask like the age of the
property? >> Uh they're both I believe they're both built in the 50s. So I don't >> Yeah, I think I think those qualified 50 years old I believe. >> Yeah. And that's something we will have to decide because our group got that far
preservation board there in this city, >> you know, do you go back 50 years? Do you start at something 100 years and older? >> Well, that's I kind of read like not Pasco. The state of Florida has some program they're like, >> right? That's what we're learning right now how they all work.
>> Anything that survives just in general on the I my opinion I would say I'd say anything that's on the water line I would say anything that's 50 years or longer or 50 years longer I think would be fine. Something that's like more closer I would expect it to be 75 100 years but 75 years.
>> Well, I'm right on the water and mine was born built in 1944's 58. I mean the general to to upkeep something that's 50 years old on the water. It's a lot of it's a lot of money that's involved and a lot of time I suspect
>> further. So I I think the appreciation of that that someone was willing to preserve something that long that's on the water. I think that shows more value. So I think it should span of it should be a little bit shorter. >> Sure. Makes sense. >> Yeah. True. >> Yeah. Certainly take that into consideration for sure. But something I
don't even know is can you designate something that somebody's private property and they're living in it? >> Say that again. >> Can you designate something that's somebody's private property and they're living in it? I would think so. >> You you Well,
I think if it meets criteria and then I think the if the owner wants it to >> that's what I'm curious about. Yeah. How that >> because it does restrict how things are rebuilt in the future. I think you have to use the materials from the time frame. So, say you flooded or whatever and you needed to replace some 2x4s or
you would have to go to and I could be wrong about those. I've read about that, >> you know, and I believe we have some say in that as well. >> Um, but it do not hold me to any of this. I think we can develop some rules
on our own. We also have to follow some rules of the state and I don't know that I don't know how to >> some things we'll have to do but then some maybe be creative and >> have exceptions to the rule >> right yeah so it's hard it's hard to recover from flooding or hurricanes or
whatever as it is it is >> so you know to have to go to a lumber yard and find the same age of lumber might you know be difficult as well so it's not it's not going to be for everybody Yes, we're so
I'm on a on a group that has been trying to save the old 1922 GHS Gulf High School in Newport Richie right there on the river and all of that for the community >> and before that I mean we started working on
that in 2021 our group did and so school board owned it now the city of Newport Richie owns it but Um what we found out so our group went ahead because we
wanted to be state state registry historical and then national. You got to go to state first. But then we found out and even talked about this in our board that it's best if we put it on our local
registry first >> because when it gets to state national if you had to replace windows or whatever you might change you might not get to >> right >> there's a lot going on there. So that's
why I think we're going to start locally to be and we haven't even gotten that far in our board to >> right >> to put it there. >> There's so much we don't know at this moment. That's why I think if we mimic Newport Newport Richie a little bit, we'll we'll get up to speed a lot faster.
>> Yeah. And then if we figure things out like that, >> I would certainly think that our >> both cities would want to share. >> Sure. Oh, absolutely. >> Work together because we are all one. >> Sure. >> The river takes us from one to the other. Just those little boundaries,
>> right? >> And we have to work together to be strong, keep things preserved. >> So, did you guys get the name? Do you want to >> I know Patrick's name. I don't have your contact information. >> I'll do like I said, >> but I can
>> I'll come to the next meeting and I'll have like a little presentation and everything and of what what's going on, what's your restore property? >> We meet every two months. >> Yeah. You know, I think you know what we're trying to accomplish.
>> I'm not trying to do meetings, but I'm counting it a lot. I know two months rolls around real quickly, but to move forward, that's just part of my frustrations to get things done.
>> You want to Okay. >> draws it out more. >> Well, you're welcome to make a motion to amend that to >> Well, every one month. >> Can we have discussion first before or which comes first? >> Sure, we can have some discussion. >> Discussion. Yeah.
>> So, what what do you think though? It's I I'm I'm got so many meetings that I never thought I'd be so involved, but >> that's what we were worried about last time. You didn't want to stretch yourself too thin, I think. >> Yeah. But I'm okay with
>> Can we start out and then if that's not enough, we can make it every month. >> What's that? We start out.