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one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice >> And could you call the roll, please? >> Chairman John Eric Hoover. >> Here. >> Vice Chairman Chris Meyer. >> Here. >> Member Robert Hubbard. Oop, sorry, hold on. He's not on.

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>> How's he not? >> Let the record show that Member Hubbard is not currently present for tonight's meeting. Member Lisa Burke. >> Here. >> Member Christine Sullivan. >> Here. >> City Attorney Nancy Meyer. >> Here. >> Interim City Manager Sal LaCarrubba.

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>> Here. >> Thank you. I'm just going to uh send Bob a quick text just to settle him. Let him know we started. Bob's in the Colorado Rockies. He's probably got a little bit of fun service up there. Okay.

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Okay, first up we have uh uh some board minutes. I need a motion to approve the May 26, 2026 CRA board meeting minutes. >> I move. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Okay, motion and second. Any further discussion? All in favor signify by saying aye. >> Aye.

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>> Opposed? Motion carries. Uh next up is comments from general public. >> I >> I got sign-up sheet, but uh >> I think >> Is there >> Nobody. >> No. Nobody did. >> Yeah, nobody signed. >> Show of hands. Okay. Close public comment.

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Next up is comments from uh city manager. Pass over Mr. LaCarre for his comments. >> Uh none at this time. >> Okay. Next up is comments from the city attorney. Pass it to Nancy. >> Nothing specific. The legal tracker is there. Just a couple items on here, so it's not too much, but if you have any specific questions, um happy to address

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them. >> Uh it's on there. Not much on that one, is there? Let's see. Okay. Okay. Next up is uh board business. Item number two, review of sign gateway locations and

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total sign estimate. I'll pass it to Mr. LaCarre for introduction. >> During fiscal year '24-'25, CRA board selected KMA uh to perform branding and wayfinding services for the Port Richey Community Redevelopment Agency. This multi-phase project includes establishing a new logo for the city,

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which we have done, and uh CRA establishing new signage and a related plan and construction. Uh during the the March 10th, 2026 meeting, CRA board approved the wayfinding sign concepts. On March 24th, 2026,

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uh the approval of the proposal for bid assistance and construction administration services through the KMA was completed. KMA has has presented to the city council on the gateway locations and provided an update on the next steps for installing signs within the city. Uh, the sign estimate is within within

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the project CIP timeline for the CRA fund. And now to the sunset of the CRA. So, um, is KMA anyone from KMA with us? On? They are not. All right. Um, I've been trying I was trying to get them on.

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Uh, they may have fallen off. Um, tonight. So, just to move this along, hopefully they will join us while we're talking about this item. Uh, they have proposed the gateway sign locations uh, for

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northbound and southbound US Highway 19. >> Bless you. >> Um, the the northbound sign is pretty much one main only one type of location will fit as far as the amount of

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right of way that we have. Um, which is basically just right over the bridge um, before the the shops on the right hand side. Um, there is a tree there which we we're not really too concerned about. Um,

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for the southbound side, there are several there are several couple spots of location that we've we've kind of pinpointed and wanted to get the board's direction on moving forward with that. Um, they also included

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some other concepts and ideas if the board was interested into approaching which were the sale the sale idea along the New Port the New Port Richey Port Richey bridge and the the lettering along the bridge. Um, that was extra

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this something that we can if if the board is interested in looking into. KMA thought that it was just a nice touch because of the bridge itself. We can still approach those. My main concerns are the gateway signs to get those completed.

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So, just looking for board direction on that. >> So, I've got a question for >> Go ahead, Chris. >> Uh these sails, are those like solar or those material? >> Those would be material. They would be so >> that's like you're just a period short period of time and things are gone. You

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know, I think it's a waste of money. >> Yeah, I think I like the roadway sign. I definitely um agree with the one spot that we have, the one coming into town going uh north, right? But going south, there's looks like three different options for that, right? >> Yes.

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>> And that would be it right there at the park, the Salt Springs Park. And what's that second one there, Sal? Where's that at? The second one on page uh page uh 15. >> It's right before the park.

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>> Yeah. >> It's a little bit It's a little bit >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I don't know that I agree with the one at the car dealership. >> I don't know. >> I don't know if I like that. You got JD Byrider and you got Welcome to Port Richey. >> So, I have a question. >> We were just trying to get cuz the

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actual border of the city is just north of the dealership and we were we were just trying to get as close to our border as possible. So, this is why this location was selected. Um but I can see your

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uh why you're not favorable, especially next to a car lot. >> It's almost It's we're competing with the Kemp Wallet sign. You know, what I mean? It's like you see that and then all of a sudden you're like, "Okay, buy here, pay here." And then you got the Kemp Wallet group and that whole thing just kind of fades away. Nothing. So, I think we

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have to move that down a little bit further to the park is probably the best place to give it a premier spot. >> If you If you look at the screen, I'm sharing the the city boundary um and you'll see we have a lot of So this basically right here is what used to be the Red Lobster which is

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going to be the Chick-fil-A and then on the right hand side that's also ours and so the proposed areas they're talking about are are down here inside the line. I had a question because let me pull this map up here.

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So this is this black area right along the right Stone Road. Okay, so keep that in mind. So Stone Road is right here. This part of the median is really wide. It's a little little bit north of our

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border and I don't know what the if it's something we could put the sign right there in the middle but I think that would be a a good place right there in the middle. It's wide open. And like I said it's a wide part of the median there. Um as opposed to having it on the right

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hand side where it won't be as noticeable. Um and like I said if you in order to do the other place you're inside the city already to get down to here. >> Eric, can you back up this a little bit? Why can't we put it on the corner of Chick-fil-A right there?

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>> What's it right here? >> Yeah, right there. >> Um well that's another option too. >> I kind of like that. I mean it's going to be a busy place. It's going to >> know how much >> well traveled >> Yeah, I don't know how much right away we have there to do that or whatever but um you know, I I like that

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idea as well. Um I just don't know if if it's an option to use the median that might dress that you can shove the sign up somebody else's territory there. Well, all this all this is technically DOT and again we're we're also going to be

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looking at potential annexation on this corridor. >> signs in the medians in Florida like >> I don't know if you can or can't. >> I don't Yeah, I would assume you can. >> We never talked about blocking those signs. Bush is now saying you got a sign there's nothing blocking those signs and you got a sign right down the street there. You have

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>> Yeah, this is very tall. You got >> tall, Eric. I think it's huge. The sign is definitely tall. >> The sign actually goes up into the foliage of the tree, the fronds. >> It's definitely tall, Eric. It's taller than the sign is right behind you.

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I bet it's probably as tall as the ceiling is. At least as tall as the ceiling is. >> No, no, I just thought of something we could ask, but it may be too tall. I don't know. >> Can we get it moved in front of the Chick-fil-A? Can I make it welcome to Port Richey and here's our Chick-fil-A? >> I would have to see it. I don't I can't

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even I would have to see what >> I I'm I'm clear about both locations. The [clears throat] the the that means >> The Chick-fil-A at the corner and then >> Here, I can give you a bird's eye view. Let me. Not bird's eye, but a uh driving view. So, let's see. Here's Bob

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Evans. This I guess is a corner. Public Bank. Not too far down. There's Firestone. No, it sits down here. It cuz Firestone is coming up right >> Okay, got it. >> there.

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>> Right past Hudson's there, right? >> So, right there is the Red Lobster, which would be Chick-fil-A. So, it would be this this corner here. >> That's a good corner. It's nice over there. >> Or maybe it's on the other side of the street where over Hudson. Turn around there. >> I'll do that.

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>> Do a U-turn. >> All right. >> Maybe it's right there on the >> This This was that area I was talking about. >> I didn't Maybe there's another spot on the right there. What was that one about? Right there Make a Yeah, but Right on the corner of Hudson. So, if you go any further

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a little bit more. >> Right here? >> Right there. Yeah. >> You're outside of the city there. >> Won't that impede traffic turning out? >> are right on that side. You're right. >> Yeah, the turning out. >> You probably do have to be on the other side there. >> Uh-huh.

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>> Yeah, and there's a billboard there, so you probably would have a height restriction back there. Yeah. >> Can you put it a little bit closer? >> since Checkers is coming to Port Richey, they probably wouldn't mind having a Port Richey zone right there. >> You look closer, grass is greener. See that? >> [snorts]

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>> That grass is greener on the other side. >> Yeah, no, did you see that? That That one right here. >> Probably good irrigation. >> Right here, and water rates go down. Boom, look at that. Lush. >> [laughter] >> I like that spot right there, right that little alcove. >> I don't see I don't know if they're going to tear that sign and stuff down,

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but they probably are. They're probably going to put a regular chain link sign in. So, Is that >> I like that spot right there. >> Let me see if what the right-of-way looks like there. So, we would If this line's right, that's all right-of-way.

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>> Where the red >> Well, no, this See that green line? That would be the where the right-of-way starts. >> You know, you almost have to move sidewalk to the inside and put the sign on the outside or something. You know what I mean? >> No, I wouldn't think so because you want

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traffic to be able to see as they come out. So, they don't fly out >> So, we don't want the sign any further out. >> Yeah, move it in. >> It'd be somewhere in here? >> Uh-huh. >> All right, but someone's going to check on that, right? >> Which ones are the uh I have I have the center median and then I have the

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>> We already >> the Red Lobster corner Red Lobster corner. >> We just shot out the median because there's there's billboards right all around it. >> Oh, okay. >> Well, you got to ask. You have to ask to see just get an idea. >> that education the first meeting we talked to him about. >> Well, all right, but >> have little bushes cuz it could block the sign. Now, all of a sudden you have

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the the >> Never hurts to ask. It's a simple question. Maybe signs have to We don't need to hear it twice. >> Maybe signs are different. Maybe entry signs are different. Just ask a question. >> don't Just don't ask Nancy to research it. We don't want to put any more into this, but yeah.

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>> Like I said, >> I've got to tell him. >> No, that one. >> That's my research on that sound. >> Thank you. Appreciate it. >> [laughter] >> Okay, so So, we're just looking >> So, we don't like this house, but we want to look at the the corner Red Lobster. Is there Is there one that you guys

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favor of the ones that we presented? So, >> Yes. >> in case that Red Lobster don't work, what's what's your second fallback? >> Absolutely. In case the Red Lobster doesn't work, I I like the park ones. I do not like the Carline one. >> Okay. >> I'm trying to find where this is the

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worst this one is at. Probably that one there. >> the best. >> I'm trying to see where this is at. >> It's on the other side of the entrance. >> Yeah, and that's Is it down further? >> Yes, yeah, where the where the walkway is over the the bridge is. >> Okay, and then this one here is a little

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further. So, basically this moves north. >> Yeah, it moves north, yeah. >> Let me look at the vantage point on that here. >> Yeah, I like that one right there, too. The one that has got the bushes behind it and everything. >> There's JD. And so, that one has a little bridge

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there. See, I'm not seeing that. Is it Is it on down here? There it is. So, it's further in. It's >> But, where is it on the map? >> Right >> Goodness. Halfway to Port Richey. >> It's basically after the You pass the park and that's where that one is. >> Right before Walmart.

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>> Right before Walmart. >> Before Walmart, right after the park entrance. >> That's pretty good spot. I mean, it cuts out a lot of Port Richey. >> You're well inside line. >> Yeah, it's well inside the line, yeah. >> But, that's okay. I mean >> I mean, at least you know you're in in Port Richey. >> The only problem is is I want to claim

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Chick-fil-A is ours instead of somebody else's. >> Right. >> We don't have any high-end restaurants like Chick-fil-A. >> So, if that doesn't work out >> Do you prefer >> for this one, which is more south or this one more north, right before the park? So, basically right before the park or right after.

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>> signage on that one and that pole, too. >> competes with it and everything. Yeah, that's probably the better choice, Eric. >> Yeah. >> You got a telephone pole right in front of it. >> Yeah, you got a I mean, it's not that much farther. >> Yeah, it's not. So, I think we can >> That actually kind of looks nice with the little bridge there. >> like it has its own area created for it.

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>> Mhm. Yeah, I'd say this one's out. >> Okay. >> I like that one, too. >> Yeah. >> [snorts] >> All right, so good enough on our >> on that? >> Works for me. >> I will look into the other ones and keep the board in

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informed. >> And >> All right. >> I did like the letters here, but I don't like the way that they are. It'd be nice if they could put them up and so they face traffic. >> I mean >> We'll just have to save the $350,000 in Port Richey and we'll put a sign over

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top of the whole road. >> If you have that, you also have people walking on that bridge and there might be the temptation of some certain people >> We just put another bridge there. Yeah, they're not going to be very stable. >> Yeah, they they will get >> I mean, it looks good in pictures, but in reality it's not going to be very good. >> they're going to get messed up.

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>> These were just added ideas that they thought that they didn't know. >> So, is that the only thing on this, those? >> Yep, just those. >> Just those two. So, the Where was our digital sign going to be? Cuz I know we talked about >> Well, we had the Grand. >> City Hall, right? >> Well, that, but there was two. One out

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here on >> Monona City Hall and then the island. We've already locked that in. >> The island? >> The Grand Boulevard. The Grand and 19. >> We had the inner sign here and then a digital sign at Grand. >> Yes, okay. >> Yeah, we already have locked that in. >> Okay. >> Yeah, cool. >> All right. >> Are we done with item number two yet, or

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are we still going to talk about it? >> Uh just back to any objection to those? >> No. >> Thanks, that's okay. >> I think by consensus we're all in agreement on that. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Any public comment? Okay, seeing none, move back uh to number item number three, resolution number 2606, adoption of the

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sustainable redevelopment incentive program. Pass it to Mr. LaCroy for introduction. >> Um so basically we have talked about the incentive program. We've gone back and forth with the policy. We have recently locked that policy in.

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Um the city attorney was given direction to finalize that with a resolution. Uh so that's the point we're here tonight. Um while we're on the subject, I have sent out the application to um one developer so far. So, they do have

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the application and um we the um the chairman and I finalized that application based on the updated policy. So, um everything in the application pretty much matches the the the current policy

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and we're here to approve a resolution. >> It is a pretty much magic matches it. >> [laughter] >> It matches it. >> It's exactly. There's no change. Pretty much can mean it there's there's a little bit of a difference. >> number 26-06 adopting the Port Richey Sustainable

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Redevelopment Agency Incentive Program. >> Second. >> I have a motion and a second. And any further discussion? Any public comment? Seeing none, put it to a vote. All in favor say "Aye." All opposed say "Nay." >> Aye. >> Opposed? The motion carries. Next up item number

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four, Olsen Park restroom wall mural proposal. Pass it to Mr. Locurcio for introduction. >> Thank you. Um so, the city's uh the city City Advisory Committee CAC has has initiated a a call for proposals for a mural on the restroom wall facing

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the street on at Olsen Park, the bathroom wall facing the road, aiming to create a welcoming entrance for the park visitors. Um Recent Recent improvements to Olsen Park include installing a new fence, uh replacing the restroom roof. Uh the proposed mural is intended to further

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enhance the park's distinctive character and appeal. Um after reviewing three proposals and styles, the CAC recommends the $5,000 proposal from Tiff I'm probably going to pronounce this wrong. Yuracort to complete the main bathroom wall wall for the City

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Council's consideration. So, um we have here three different proposals, uh three different types of the art styles, and we're looking for board approval to move forward. >> One question I had, and I I really liked

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that second one, too, by Tiff. I did like the third one, as well. I didn't like the first one, but just it was I wasn't sure. It looked like she was going to paint all the way around the building. >> That's a different proposal. >> Oh, it is. How much was that? 20? >> 40?

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>> Yeah, I think >> 20? It It was It was in here, so >> Yeah, I think I think for the the entire wrap-around >> Yeah. Yeah. It'll make Ashley mad. >> Um not for the side that faced the fence. So that was just going to be the

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just the plain color. But the door side and then the back side that faces the water there was additional artwork, not as detailed as facing the street, but there was additional artwork on those two. >> So 5,000 is just the the one left side

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that says Welcome to the Park with Gateway to Golf on that side. And then by the doors no pelican or anything. >> I know the building bathroom is just vague and there's nothing on there at all. The bathrooms are nothing painted on them for 5 grand. >> Nothing painted on them. >> No No mural.

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>> Is there a mural on the bathroom? Yes or no for 5 grand. >> On the on the wall facing the >> Okay, so for 5 grand we get that and we get the mural on the big wall for 5 grand. >> No, 5 grand you get 52. >> But there's nothing on the big wall. The The big wall does We don't own that wall. >> What's this big long thing here? You got a big picture of a

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>> Well, that would wrapped around the building. >> No, no, he's talking about there was a page where she did She did do an >> Oh, is that the wall, too? I thought that was what wrapped around the building cuz I see there's a pelican and I thought that was like a other side of the >> No, that's her That was her idea for the wall. >> For the wall, okay.

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>> But the the price for the all four bathroom walls is 20,500. >> And so what we're getting for 5,000 >> Page 52. >> Yes. >> Which is the the Hunsinger Lane and then the Buttonwood Park

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and the pelican. >> Right. >> Are we getting the pelican, too? >> That Not the doors. Page 52 is what you're [clears throat] getting. >> She's got two proposals got got the artist, Chris. We asked everybody for two proposals for the bathroom wall

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for the bathroom. The one was just welcome to Ulster Park, that's 5,000. And then the pelican and and the other two walls are the 20,500 signs. I thought it was 20,000. >> He can't do that in the bathroom today. >> Can't.

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It was weird that one one wall is 5,000 and the 15,000 to do the Was it Oh, four four sides? I guess it's 5,000. >> Four sides. So it's 5,000 a wall. >> Let's look at the third one. Where's the third one? >> [clears throat and snorts] >> That's the green one on page 56. And that's just

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>> [clears throat] >> Well, you think about it. >> How much is the green one? >> That was >> 40 >> 40 4,500. Yeah, 500 dollars. Cheaper, but not near as detailed.

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>> Did you get 19 signs to give us an estimate? >> We did. He was He was He came out. Um, he gave us a proposal. I don't think he gave us one for the bathroom, but we did ask for one. He did give us um a proposal for the entire wall when we were asking for that as well. Um, everybody who gave us

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proposals for the entire wall was contacted by staff numerous times and asked them for um proposals for the bathroom wall. Um, and those are the three that we got back. >> So, just so I can clarify in my mind, did we completely dump the idea of

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painting the wall? >> No, only because we are in discussions with the new owner of the property. >> There's a new owner of that property? >> Yes. >> So, we sold it? >> Yes, they did sell that property and the property was sold. Someone is there. >> And they would allow us paint. They told me that directly. >> yeah, she's

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>> How much does it cost to paint what this lady is going to paint right here, this big long thing though? The the lady, the Ulster Park, the pelican >> Did he give us an estimate for that issue? picture. >> now that you mentioned it, I think that's what she's predicting as the four-way wrap-around because the only

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two pictures we have for are two walls and it only shows the pelican on the doorway and then the one thing, but I think >> There was a third picture of course. >> The third picture that shows We only got two pictures for that one. Yes, she only gave us two pictures for

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the wrap-around. I'd have to I think she would basically incorporate page number >> [cough] >> 50 around the whole building. >> So, that wasn't the wall that she proposed. >> Wouldn't you rather see page number 50 painted on the wall

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and not on the bathroom cuz that wall is all the way down and that page number 50 all the way down the wall is going to give you a big huge like this versus just the bathroom on one side for five G's. >> It's kind of like >> The price is going to go >> The welcome to Ulmer faces, you know,

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was um The welcome to Ulmer Park faces the street, so therefore people coming when you're in the wall, you know, if you're coming from the south side, you won't see that coming in. So, that that was that was just our rationale for that. >> And you can see it from either side

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coming in or is there a fence blocking it? >> You can see the wall right here in 52. You see the wall [clears throat] is right there to the left of the building. >> Or is he talking about seeing the bathroom? >> Oh, I got you. So, this this part of the building faces the road. >> Yes. >> The welcome to Ulmer Park faces the road. Yes, sir. >> Yeah, so that's you're going to see that

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as you go by the park. >> The part I don't like about the welcome to Ulmer with the picture is it's just not very bright. >> What What kind of signage do we have to >> It's just really muted where in the whole mural or the picture of the

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pelican has a lot more colors in it. >> And the And the stilt house there, too. >> We can We can ask her to incorporate move things around. She's very um amenable to suggestions. >> But But keep in mind, I don't know if this is how it's really going to look. She's projecting this on here just for I

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mean, obviously, this is not existing. So, >> I did see her work. Um, we have, um, her website, I think, on the paperwork. And so, you can see her work. She has done work throughout the Eastern Seaboard in many different cities. She has worked

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with municipalities in the past. >> If you look at her If you look at her, like Lisa's saying, on page, uh, 50. I think Can you see that on there, Linda? Oh. Uh, I'm not sure. Let me share real quick. >> Okay, thank you. >> Uh, her website is on the quote if you

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want to look that up, as well. So, this was So, this she's What Lisa's saying is is these colors look a lot better than They pop a little bit better, yeah. Than what you see here. And like I said, I think that's just probably just give you an idea what it's going to look like on there. It would probably look more like what she's

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got in her thing here. >> Hey, you can Can we talk about the condition of the bathroom right itself cuz we have like scrub chipped paint falling off of it. We got boards on the top that are raw wood. We're going to end up spending $5,000 putting lipstick on a pig.

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>> Well, the bath The bathroom is in great shape, actually. The walls, um, and the constructed wise, that's why we we just redid the roof. Um, as far as the prep work, it would be completely pressure washed down, and a base coat would be applied. >> So, painted So, the whole thing would be

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painted the whole thing, yeah. >> And then as far as the wood that's underneath, we can We'll also Public Works will also paint that as a, you know, whatever whatever color she uses as the base, we're going to use that, you know, for underneath and any other parts, uh, of the building. So, but we

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already had that plan because there is some chipping and stuff, but we haven't done anything yet because we're kind of waiting to see what direction we're going to go in. >> [snorts] >> And all the artists just seal where all the artists put on a sealant on top of the murals. >> Yeah. Um help maintain it. UV protection as well as um

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you know, just to protect it from from the weather itself. And every artist did use a a sealant to protect it. >> We have talked with with each and I've talked with each of them, too, and they would give us um they would give us whatever sealant they have left, so then public works can periodically, you know,

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either being once a year or every couple years, reapply it so we can try and preserve this as long as we can. >> Is the lady in the picture Miss Olsner? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Hey Chris, this is a this picture here I'm showing. This shows you the the wall, which is hidden mostly by the bathroom. So, you're definitely getting

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much more visibility by painting the bathroom wall. >> Unless you're in the parking lot looking over at it, cuz >> Well, then you're in the parking lot, you wouldn't see it. >> Yeah, if you're in the park then and walking around then the then the wall would stand out, but >> I mean, I almost like number three better than I do number two.

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The the the the green one with the green Welcome to Olsner Park, I mean I I don't know do you want a picture of Miss Olsner or do you want a picture of the Stilt House in there somewhere? Or do you want our logo somewhere in there? >> Port Orchard's logo. >> Well, it's Olsner Park, so you that's I

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think that's the rationale behind having Olsner on it. >> But if she gets the name, I don't know if she gets the whole thing. >> It's not Stilt House Park, it's Olsner Park, so it's just named after her. >> And if you choose to do the wall, if if that's something that y'all want to >> You could incorporate that stuff there, yeah.

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>> Um we you know, when when we spoke to each artist, we we told them, you know, we wanted the Stilt House, the pelican, etc., etc. in in the wall itself. >> I just like it to be brighter. >> Yeah, I I [clears throat] think if it if it

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if it looks more like this here. I mean, I think it's I think it's >> Or even the one or even the one with the pelican just >> We can bring the electric if you'd like. >> It It looks like an old time postcard

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and it's just like two old timey. >> I see I think >> That's just That's just my opinion. >> Yeah and I and I think you know my opinion I I kind of like that antique-y look not as like I said I do think it should be a little more brighter than and that's all dull here so it pops because when you look at

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the the third option that really pops, right? It stands out because the contrast between the the kind of lime green and you get the the yellowish off-white color. >> one down. Go down. The next one pops even more right there. >> Well that's the same one this one >> No

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>> Oh it is the same they have different color behind it. >> I kind of like that green one personally. For 4,500. >> I do too. More cuz I it's just more colorful it's more >> it's more alive and less less busy.

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>> uh do a search for Ulster Park, Port Richey and pull up the um the sign it's the should be the first first thing that pull pulls up. Should show the sign.

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>> Yeah so we have two signs and we have a we have a rule sign inside the park and then the other >> Go to images I'm sorry. Go to images. >> Images top yep. >> And let's see I just don't think it falls in line with our new city signs at all.

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>> there. If you go down that one. >> Yep there's a point. >> So that's right in front of the bathroom wall. >> [clears throat] >> That's going to be a painting is it? >> Yeah it's supposed to be a new sign like our new sign should be that. >> coming out. That sign is old in age that

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it's going to be replaced. >> modern sign going to look good with this vintage um look >> That's a question. >> The two might >> If we're going with a modern look for our signage and that's about to get replaced in that same location, then we're going to have a vintage and a

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modern right there beside each other and I wouldn't >> Right. Have a contemporary with your antiques. >> Right. Yeah. So, I'm not sure. >> Yeah, I don't think it fits with our with our new branding. >> Well, and I mean, I don't know that necessarily you're you're trying to make

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everything match either. I mean, obviously the the park sign is going to be the new signage and all that. Get that. But, when you're inside the park, then you have some >> But, it'd be a good idea to have them all kind of cohesively look look good together and since we're about to have a new sign there, it's a super modern

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sign. If we were to go with a more modern look for that wall, it would make it more cohesive cuz they're going to be right in front of That's going to be right in front of the vintage look. >> Is that something we're going to I mean, are we going to want to consider that

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with all the parks? Um >> Yeah. >> To me, this is Yeah. I mean, this is kind of a you know, it's going to stay This is going to be like a Whatever we do here, we're going to probably want that same theme throughout the city. >> Right. >> You know, no matter where we have a a wall or if we may erect a wall in some

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of our parks to put this up. So, that's something to consider. >> signage look. [snorts] I just don't think it's going to look good with that sign right >> one right there, you would you really want something similar to that at Waterfront Park? No, it wouldn't fit. It just wouldn't fit. >> Do we need a more modern look to go

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along with our new modern city signs? Maybe we get them a picture of that and say, "Hey, if you can do something kind of in this theme." >> Right. Maybe not worry so much about >> [clears throat] >> the missile >> antique aesthetic >> the antique and all that, but just something that modern-looking and

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coastal or >> bright >> bright [clears throat] >> bright white >> the >> pelicans >> like incorporate some of the Can we go back and ask them if they would do some of that, maybe some brighter, whiter Well, so I mean,

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I understand what you guys are saying. You want [clears throat] you want your carpet to match your drinks, right? >> Usually you do. >> So, but this is this is a little different um in my mind because we do have some history. Right? That we probably want to showcase

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some history as well. Now, we get we get the sign that goes out front. It's our new sign, it's all that. Perfect. But inside the park, for a mural perspective, I don't think there's a bad thing and yeah, if it's if it's too drab that's easily fixed up with brighter colors.

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Huh? >> Looks like a funeral parlor. >> Yeah, no, I I I totally don't like the coloration here, but again, this is just >> I just shut up to Florida. I'm getting ready to dump my whole life saved all summer down. >> I would say if it looked like that, no. >> [clears throat] >> But again, if you look at the the thing she started with, it's much brighter and

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you could even brighten that up a little bit more. Right. But if you put that on the the first part of it I mean, I like I like what's in there and I kind of like to having the little history there. I don't know I want to necessarily have

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it our new logo and stuff on there. Go ahead. >> I just want to let you know these artists that you are got to get both um these renderings. When we suggested this, when we were talking with them, we were still going through our 100 year celebration.

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So, that's the direction we gave I gave them was, you know, this 100 years, we're 100 years, this is So, we can give them any direction you want and and and they can I'm sure will come back with >> I was >> something that fits your thing. So, just to let you know, that was the direction they were given was because we were in

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our 100 year celebration and I felt that was important to celebrate. But >> What times >> I mean we can go any direction you want. >> I really like for all of them to get a picture of our sign. And >> They will have that. We we did give that to them. >> Okay. >> They got the logo.

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Yes, they did get the >> They got the logo, too. >> I believe they do. But once again, when the CAC was discussing this, they wanted to stay with the with the you know, the pelican theme, which is you know, the city bird. Um you know, Mark Kelso, which of course

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the the park is named after. And this is the concept. But we you know, we can come back I mean they're artists, so they can come up with any any concept you'd like. >> Maybe they could just retouch this photo. >> The sign that we currently have looks good with this, but it's about to be

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replaced. So they might have based what they drew >> Correct. >> knowing with that that sign was going to be right in front >> Yeah, that is the shape of that. >> It's almost the same shape as the current sign. It's not the >> Yeah, it looks like they kind of worked around it. So they get the new signage in the location of where the new signage

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is going to be, they might come up with something different. >> We can give every any direction you want. Absolutely. >> I think it'd be good to blend them in together. >> So if you can just list them for us so we can go back to them. So someone contacted [clears throat] them. And um

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>> Also, is there I mean is there a particular style um of the three artists that you are leaning more towards? Um cuz I I don't think I don't think the pricing is going to change that much as far as um them them doing the one-sided

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bathroom wall and concentrating on >> like first I don't like the Vegas-y look, for sure. >> That looks like somebody went to a jewelry store and got something like that. >> So we can approach the other two and have them come up with a more modern concept based on our current sign work

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that's going to be coming out. Um incorporate that. >> I got you. >> Okay. >> Hello. >> Oh my goodness, I'm so sorry. Can you hear me? I'm so sorry. I'm just sitting in the meeting. Oh, I'm sorry. I was talking to

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myself just in this recent >> So, she's one of the artists? >> I absolutely >> Is that you, Agata? >> Yeah. Hi. >> Hi, honey. Yes. >> Yes, it's me. I had no idea you guys could hear me. I'm so sorry. I'm going to turn the microphone off.

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>> You're fine. We're We're glad you joined us. So, she's which which one's hers? >> Oh, fantastic. Well, I'm >> She's from Wishing Well. >> Oh, that's who that was. Now I see what you guys did. >> Yeah, so this is your design, right? >> I was there in person. >> Yes. >> The third one Yes, correct.

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And anything can be changed, updated, and adjusted to style, whatever fonts, colors, uh, you know, you desire. And there was another project. So, these are two separate ones. This is the signage for

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the the welcome sign that was supposed to be designed originally in the Victorian style, but that can absolutely be made more contemporary. And you can see examples of my other work, and there's much more work um what

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I prepared for the 120-ft wall. But, that were Those were also >> of that? >> That >> Yeah, we'll work on the 120-ft wall. We can bring that back, but I do have that, but if we're going to look into a different you you know,

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corporate a different style, >> Let's Let's give her the >> Let's get it a little brighter and a little more modern, and >> she may come up with a different concept for both the main wall, the bathroom wall, and we can do a package of that, and we'll approach the other one as well, and and give them that direction. So,

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if if the if the board is still interested in doing the entire wall, we can we can still approach that. The At the time it was just we were back and forth about the you know trying to obtain the property versus um now that we have a new owner of the property, they are amenable for us, but we still

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would have to negotiate as far as >> going to build on that? >> Um I don't know yet. I think that they have plans to. Yes. >> And they won't give us the wall. >> Yeah, they won't >> They will let us paint it. Which means at any point in time they could tear it down. >> Right, so they'd have to be prepared >> not going to tear it down cuz they don't want to be next to a park. So, they're

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going to >> They may be tearing >> They're going to put a vinyl fence up. I'm just saying it's you If before you send money in a payment, we I don't know if there's an agreement we can draft to make sure that we >> You can make you If they're amenable to agree to it, yeah. But if they're not, and I think that's where we were at last time that they're like, "Yeah, you could do it, but we're not agreeing to any

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timeframe or any specifics, and if we want to change it, we're changing it." >> I mean, I could put my fence on my neighbor's right on the straight up property line, but then it becomes both of ours, and either one of us can make a decision on it, and you don't you know new owners come in and might hate the city and want to tear it down. Just you you got to protect yourself.

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>> Okay. So, so that will get us some modern stuff that goes with our new sign. So, we start doing all these parks, they all kind of look the same, and we're not like out here on this and down here on that. >> Okay. >> Okay. I still

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I still I still think that we I mean motif, modern, whatever. I think we should incorporate some history. >> I'm I'm okay with some history as long as it doesn't have to be >> So, that looks at aspect of it. >> Maybe not the antique look anymore. >> Exactly. I don't We don't want to tell them, "Hey, give us an antique look."

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>> That works kind of been in a a vintage looking park for a while. It's maybe time that we modernize it since we have that time. >> Maybe put a new hat on. >> Right. >> Martha. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, ball cap or something. Yeah, yeah. Or they're carrying some

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some rollerblades. I know. I have her I have a rollerblade across the Yeah, I mean You you get my drift. >> All right. There we go. >> All right. So, we'll get it to the artist so I can give them your direction and I'll take it back to CIC and then we'll bring it back to you guys. Is that good

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for you guys? >> Yeah, perfect. Thank you. >> No problem. Thank you. >> This is the record. I did like that. I did like the the two and three. >> I like them. It's just I With the new sign, I just don't see it there. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Right in front of it.

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>> What if the board want these be you revisited when we guys to add them or we don't we're we're not going to use these concepts moving forward? >> We're not going to use >> We're not going to use them at all. So, I I don't want to We're not going to bring them back at all. We're just going >> we're just going to go with some new

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stuff. >> Okay, yeah. >> Got it. >> Okay. Next up, item number five, environmental study. That being said, I liked the the the long wall version of that one. That was cool. The wall version, the long one. >> Yeah. >> I liked that.

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So, that kind of would lighten and brighten. It had the, you know, some whites in it and stuff. >> to me that that contradicts what you just said. >> It was still vintage. >> That's the exact contradiction of what you guys were going for. But >> Right. >> We're out there anyway, so it doesn't matter. But it's vintage.

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>> Hey Sal, I got a great >> We don't know what we want. Bring us back some stuff. >> [laughter] >> This is what perplexes me about you, Vice Mayor. >> When when people ask [laughter] me why things are not moving ahead, I want to I like to remember these conversations. >> Hey, the good news is things are moving

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>> We are moving ahead, but just there's a pace that we're all getting used >> We just need to have the artist see our new artwork sign. That's all. >> No problem. >> Thank you, Sal. >> Item number five, environmental study, Bracher Park. Pass that to Mr. LaCarre for introduction. >> Um

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this is basically the first phase of doing all the work at Bracher Park. An environmental study is required. This will pretty much tell us what we're allowed to incorporate. We are in the same conversations with obtaining a grant for a kayak launch,

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playground, and restroom. But, consulting with Hal with Hal, an environmental study has to be completed. Especially now that the location of Braden River Park and, you know, everything that we've had there existing has been been removed. So, now that

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we're putting in new, we need to be sure what we're allowed to do per, you know, current regulations. So, this is uh the the city attorney and I have already, you know, discussed and looked have looked over to this with Hal, made the appropriate changes, and are prepared to

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move forward. >> Motion to approve the environmental study for Braden River Park by Hal Engineers Services. >> Second. >> The motion second. Any further discussion? Any public comment? We got one public, so no. Okay, bring it

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back. We'll vote. All in favor signify by saying aye. >> Aye. >> Aye. >> Opposed? Motion carries. I do want to point out that this was within your spending limit and you brought to us I think is a good thing. So, it's it's always a good thing when you're you're spending money that you let council

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in on that. So, thank you for that. Uh next up is our last item, I believe. Yes. >> ongoing project. Well, it's a CRA thing. That's why I wanted to bring it to the board. And also, I know it's within the spending limit, but

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Braden River Park is an active All right, conversation piece, so. >> Yeah, appreciate appreciate you bringing it to us. Item number six, property purchase 7650 Sailwinds Blvd. Pass that to Mr. Curry for introduction. >> I'm trying to find it. One second. Okay, there we are.

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Uh for the CRA board, is a real estate purchase and sale agreement between um the CRA and West Central Land LLC, a California limited liability company. Uh the agreement concerns the acquisition of approximately .09 acres

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of unimproved land located at 7650 Salwins Pass in Port Richey, which is in within the Marina Palms subdivision. Um basically what this parcel is for, we have installed three generators. Um this is good for the fourth fourth

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generator on Olster Street. Um we've surveyed Olster. We do not have the room to incorporate the fourth generator. This property is adjacent and right next to that lift station. Um it just so happened to be for sale.

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Um it's up the purchase price is very very very reasonable. We have not done a um an appraisal on it only due to the fact of the low cost of the purchased property. Um

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it was recommended by the um by the engineering firm North Star that I've I've consulted on property acquisition. Um that you know, why spend an additional $2,500 when you're getting this property for such a low price.

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Um I am in the process of a Jennifer Bondy who works with our city attorney um is uh I had them review the agreement. The agreement itself is basic in form, but for the purchase price it was their recommendation, you know, how much do you really want to

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modify it? >> So, we going to have to install this thing in once we get it up there and everything? >> We'll we'll be doing all that. >> And this thing's high enough where it wouldn't have got flooded the last flood we had? >> No. [snorts] Um [clears throat] I've talked to Daryl and as far as this installation, this the slab is going to be set higher than

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the other ones have been set. >> Daryl, can I ask you I'm sorry. Sorry, go ahead. >> I'm just saying Olster Olster is pretty much our our main our one location that we are concerned with as far as flooding. Um the other three locations aren't going to, you know, don't have that issue on Chapel.

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>> I've seen like 12 to 14-in slabs. So, from ground level to tank, they're all 3 or 4 ft. >> Okay. >> So, it's going to take 5 ft. If the stakes were already ground level,

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but Queen Estates already, I think, 8 ft above the road as it is, and then you add it to your >> So, how high are we going to make this one? >> So, this one I can't make it too, too high because obviously when the ladders and stairs and to be able to even >> Can you make it 3 ft? >> Look into it.

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>> A 3-ft foundation? >> Could that's going to put the top of the tank at 7 ft. And then the controls are probably going to be about 9 to 10 ft from >> I'm concerned about another 5-ft flood wiping out a $30,000 generator. >> Well, so I will say it's

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>> it's it's in the it's in it's in uh >> residential >> residential, so those people are they're going to be looking out their window and >> And it's the high point of of the subdivision. I remember during a day when I drove back in it like within there people got water within their garage or whatever,

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but as you got up to Oldsmar it was you're out of it. So, I don't know what the last >> That lot sits probably about a foot or 2 higher than the actual station. >> a home used to sit there a long time ago. Um, they it was constructed they had the block pretty much built, but then for

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the fact that it was literally the house was hugging the lift station and never perceived it to be finished. They took the building down and the and the property has sat ever since. Um I believe I believe and like I said, we're going to discuss this with development services as we put this down

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and make sure that if we have to add some fill before pouring the slab, we can do that to raise it up a little bit. But if you go to the property, it it already has been raised up. It The property does sit higher than our existing lift station. So. [snorts]

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>> I mean, keep in mind do we have to do is run these things how often to keep them going? You got to >> So, just like these we'll run them once a week every Wednesday. They'll come on after >> to burn the diesel out. I mean, you got to add the bio stuff to keep them from gelling up. >> run every week. They'll run an hour every week just like these did. >> Okay.

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>> Um and then we'll top them off. >> Is it an auto start and stop? You don't have to go do them. It's just set it and >> Automatic transfer switch. As soon as the power goes out that station kicks on. >> No, but I mean, your auto start to run them once a week. >> Yeah. >> It's all It's It's programmed, right? >> Yeah, just like these two are. >> Okay. So, you don't have to stand there

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and look at it and push the button or anything like that. Okay. >> [clears throat] >> So, you're thinking how high off the ground? >> So, I can probably put it about 5 ft to the top of the tank. So, the controls will actually be probably like 6 and 1/2 ft. >> And what's that going to mean when we

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get a flood? >> I mean, you'll need a 7 8 ft flood even. >> Get above the fuel tank of it? Cuz the fuel tank's the first. >> So, a 5 ft flood will get you at the fuel tank. So, a 6 ft will flood the fuel tank.

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Between 7 8 will hit >> the controls and that's the end of that. >> And I don't think they even got that high during Colleen back in 2016. >> Okay. So, this mask. All right, I'm cool with that. >> One question I have is not about how high it is, but it's within the homeowner's association.

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Are we going to have to pay homeowner's association fees and stuff because we own that lot and use it? Something we probably ought to find out. >> We'll have to consult with them and talk to them about that, but I think they'll look we can come to an understanding of the necessity of this. >> Yeah, we're pumping their poop when the

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power goes out. >> Yeah, exactly. So, uh >> It's either that or we got to go to back up hill. >> Yeah. >> Again, the homeowner's association, there's We can choose to take that thing and put it somewhere else, can't we? >> Uh we'll lose the So, if we don't put it there since it's part of the grant, we

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may eat that whole cost of that generator. Just a food of thought. >> Yeah, I would think sounds very right. We can negotiate through that with them to let us have a >> It's kind of It's funny you brought that cuz we were

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discussing that point earlier today. So, we we would have to sit down with the HOA and and discuss that. But, the the issue still remains is that the Oldsmar Street location, there's there's no room to set that generator. So, we would need this property one way or the

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other. But, we will we we we will reach out and discuss what the city would have to do as far as the HOA fees. >> And what are the HOA fees in that area? >> I do not know. I we have not >> What do you do with the lift station on Harbor Point Drive?

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>> Nothing. >> It doesn't get powered up if power goes out? >> So, we have pull-behind generators that we can take to them. They're all retrofitted for that. Um so, if the power ever goes out there, but there's not enough flow that goes into >> There's not enough houses that drain into that.

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>> They have like seven houses back there. >> Yeah, so it'd last for a day or two until you >> So, from that station back towards your house in the cul-de-sac, those are the only houses that go into that. >> And it And that kind of already sits a little high. >> Got it. >> So, um >> It got wet last time. >> Yeah, well. >> Yeah.

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>> The four that we're installing generators at are four main lift stations that literally send it to the Oldsmar, basically everything on this outside gets pushed to New Port Richey. >> From Oldsmar. >> Okay. >> Um Bay Boulevard >> Or just the whole west side?

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>> Yeah. Bay Boulevard handles the entire west side and you can split that between going south and north, but that's the main lift station. Um Weir Chapel, same situation. Everything from the east side, it's being being pushed towards New Port Richey. >> Would it be a Would it be a cleaner

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process to do a right-of-way acquisition? And that way we we're outside the HOA and it's our property. >> It's not all right-of-way. The right-of-way acquired has right-of-way. >> You still right? >> to

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talk but I don't I'm responding and looking into what I've not looked into this at all. So I don't have an answer here. This is that's real estate stuff. >> Yeah. >> Please stand up. I don't have anything. >> Yeah, I I I just we saw an opportunity to get all of this quickly as possible. We can look into that, but once again,

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we're we're We have three in We have three generators placed. This This generator needs to be placed. >> Before we can get reimbursed before we can get reimbursed. >> We're putting on our trailer and >> And we're we're trying to satisfy the and the cost is so minimal. I mean, we can look into that right away

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acquisition. Um we can look into transfer after we purchase the property, we can look to do I mean I believe we can look to do that as well. >> We'll check with check with the HOA first and see if they approve it. >> sure that they might be a way they can just say, "No, you guys won't be charged

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the HOA fee." I just make sure that that we don't get stuck with a bill every year because we didn't plan on that. It should be part of the negotiation process. And maybe we we agree to buy the property providing we don't we we're outside HOA

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covenants. >> Yeah, that generator's [snorts] 10 ft long, so >> Can we uh motion to approve this purchase with conditions? >> Yes, Sal's and uh Nancy's >> So we can move it in.

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>> working out a solution to get it with the least amount of least just possible impact to this taxpayers. Right? Which means eminent domain. No, I'm just kidding. >> [laughter] >> We'll write about that in the papers. Well, eminent domain, you might pay more

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for it. Because you see it's valued at 21 something. I was just kidding. >> I was just saying you were joking. I just >> I educate with humor. Remember you're the you're the you're the sense of humor guy. I I have the same sense of humor Ashley does right now. >> So, you made the motion What's the

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motion? [laughter] >> Motion to approve the purchase of this property with conditions that Sal and Nancy >> [snorts] >> Negotiate favorable conditions for the doctor's office. >> Negotiate favorable favorable conditions

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for the city. I mean with the That's That's like I mean that's >> the most favorable >> I subject to right now. >> And with the HOA issue >> Yeah. So, maybe maybe it should be a motion to approve pending >> Removing HOA costs. >> You know, removing HOA expenses or

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limiting >> limiting HOA expenses and how far do we want to limit? >> Covenants control, yeah. >> Now, now if they do have HOA fees, then what? >> Right. That's what I was >> We need this kind of regardless of >> Yeah, we could have needed it anyway. I

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don't want to hold it up for another meeting. >> Really going to say at a public meeting? >> [laughter] >> I just called. >> How about just a motion to approve the purchase and you guys do what's best for the city? >> I Well, yeah. We can like I said I I I

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I definitely want to make that call. I want to make that call first and sorry. You know, I just given like I said given the purchase price and everything I I don't um I think obtaining the property is just um >> Dumb question. Right across the street.

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In our right-of-way. Would it work there? >> You're going to spend a lot more money boring and everything underneath the road underneath of that than you're going to do for that. >> So, the lift station's right there? >> Yes, I guess. >> Yeah, it's right there. >> Or even We have 5 ft all the way around it.

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>> Or even in our right-of-way along the road there. Do we even need that whole lot? I don't know. >> Then you're talking about like to the That's our swale. Our swale's right there. So, we're sitting kind of on our swale. >> I think you got a second to the motion. I did. >> I second Christine's motion. >> Okay, further discussion. I got further

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discussion. So is it something that uh Well, you got to swell down here as well. You got to swell it right all the way down. So really the the option is you got to put it on a lot. You know there are options close by. Okay. >> The HOA owns the lot to the right and then the one to the left came for sale.

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>> Okay. All right. Any further discussion? Any public comment? Seeing none, put it to a vote. All in favor say five saying aye. >> Aye. >> Opposed? Motion carries. Uh and That concludes council business. Any old

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business? Okay. Any comments from the board? I'll start with uh Vice Chair Mayor. >> I have no comment, sir. >> Okay. Member Solomon? Member Burke? >> No, thank you. >> Member Hubbard, did you ever join? >> No.

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>> Okay. >> No. >> He checked out. All right. If uh and I have nothing as well. So look for motion to >> Motion to adjourn. >> Second. >> Second. >> Okay, I got uh Christine. >> you, Lisa. >> [laughter] >> I'll second. All in favor say five

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saying aye. >> Aye.