##VIDEO ID:Iiy9AbEnEVk## right call planning zoning meeting today is Thursday the 16th it is now 6 o'clock please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance Al the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible liberty and justice for all thank you I have a roll call please chairman Sean P here member Randy stout here member Lorie Simpson here member Michael forez here member Ronald McDonald here City attorney Nancy Meyer here wonderful the whole business to attend to first um any discussion or comments regarding the board U minutes from the last board meeting you don't have no we have no minutes on this agenda perfect let's do that then um any comments from the general we discussing today something you want to discuss sir please state your name for the record and your where you live he do my name's um JJ Murphy my address is 4620 Bay Boulevard and uh I also work for the county I'm the assistant County Administrator for Public Safety on the agenda I will address and uh you know on items one and two why I can't speak to that they are Port Richie business who have done so much for our community volunteering uh dedicating their time I saw during the storm they've been great of our community and I ha all right this time I close it to the public any comments from the board members themselves regarding anything not on the agenda all right moving along Miss n great um your number one request for comprehensive plan Amendment for Parcels generally located at the southwest corner of river Gulf um combined there is um a request for plan Amendment and another is rezoning um the first one's legislative action the second one is a quasi judicial action what we do um is we're going to hear um our planner Miss Fran is here she's going to present both kind of together at the same time um but when we are done with her opportunity to respond and you have your questions that you want to ask of of either her or the applicant is explain a Judicial which will apply to the resoning application this is a meeting where the city with the board acts and acqu judicial rather than legis not that already been established and acqu decision regarding the application before it the board may only consider evidence consider competent substantial and relev if competent substantial and relevant evidence at the hearing criteria established in the city ordinances then council is required by law of for the applicant by the same token if the but substantial and relevant evidence that the hearing demonstrates the applicant has failed to meet the criteria established in the code of or think the board is required by law to find against the applicant at this time I'm asking if any of the board members have had any Communications with the applicant regarding this these the rezoning application seeing seeing none okay um do any members of the board have a conflict of interest with these applications okay but at this time anyone that's going to provide testimony which will include the applicant and planner needs to rise to be um take the oath from the clerk do you swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth you can sit down Miss r here we go good evening happy New Year everyone my name is Tammy Verana with Verana Consulting out of Safety Harbor tonight we're going to be discussing the two cases plan am that are this subject of this request and River Road and is this on Commercial mixed use uh future land use category to allow the subject Parcels to be used for outdoor recreational vehicle and or boat storage this is an overview of the subject and Chapel Avenue this slide shows the lot dimensions in 2023 and so as I'll show you in a second there are some structure that are on as long as you guys can hear hear me I mean well I but can you should be okay I turn my so we look it's part of the categories and we look at the zoning of the propert of family or multif family you also have gray that indicates it's a vacant property that has a residential um this is per the property appraiser so that vacant residential you have Municipal which is the fire station uh the church uh down the way and um and then of course the the commercial that you see that's along uh Grand Boulevard the future luse map shows that the L include res residential which is yellow mixed use which is red and then the public semiu yellow that's area but they're also is some the darker orange is multiple family residential there's a plan development to the west of below see one I think Clinic perhaps and part of that that that zoning map of the subject parcel looking West from there's another structure that was also removed from the site this shows a view of the subject parcel from Queener Avenue and the neighborhood so as part of the comprehensive plan amendment process we need to look to see if the request is consistent with and the for the city to provide public services that would if there were development on the site it would need to come in and have that evaluation done um to based on this precise use at this point we don't it could be anything that could come forward but one of the important things that we look at in terms of uh we look at density and intensity levels of service but an important measure is also neighborhood compatibility and in your comprehensive plan you have these statements which I've truncated just for the space essentially the overall goal of the future land use element of the comprehensive plan is to promote compatible land use and then the policy below it uh is to preserve existing compatible land uses the city shall require that all future developments will enhance maintain and be compatible with the existing land use patterns and then I won't go the other ones but they kind of go along the same line that you know you want to be compatible with visual appearance um you want to make sure that you're um not introducing inconsistent land uses the policy states that you're trying to remove inconsistencies and that you're also going to use your zoning regulations to Pro prohibit incompatible land juices when development or Redevelopment proposals are heard has found that um there's compatibility issues with this request in three areas relative to the existing land uses almost an acre site that would have would not have that regular pattern almost an acre site that would have would not have that regular pattern single family or even a multif family um res developmental to character in such a way the neighborhood the the home values could suffer as a result of the that's the entire that's the entire all designated for residential is completely 100% resident this area be of uses um to Contin vision of the city reflect in your comp plan but if it's the vision of the city to expand commercial uses then it's certainly something that entertain change for the area uh in the area there's some new residential investment that's just down the street avenue chapen this is so under the future land category CMU um the property of uh 0.9 Acres would allow up to 17 residential units and the non-residential could be um 27,7 48 square ft whereas today you could have some level of non-residential office that's allowed in the R2 and that could be as high as 10,000 to Fe but that's ju more about zoning So based on uh staff's evaluation and finding that the request is inconsistent with the goals objectives and policies of the comprehensive plan uh our recommendation to the Planning and Zoning Board is to find the request to be in consistent and to recommend to city council that their request be denied now we'll go on to the [Music] zoning sorry I'm going to get my okay here it is okay so this is the same um the same information this the same application uh involving three subject Parcels that are the parcel ID numbers are listed on the slide the request is to go from the R22 family residential zoning District to the C3 General commercial zoning district and a lot of these are going to be repetitive so I'm just going to flip through them so this is an overview aerial site lot sizes and dimensions are the same here's an aerial view existing land juices and I didn't land juices on the site according to the property appr these are parcel number one is vacant residential number two is single family residential and the three was a store office residential and those were based on the structures that were there previously on the site here's the future land use map designations the zoning same views okay so for zoning we're required by code to look at 19 different criteria that's in the Land Development code this is all analyzed within your document so in looking at these uh different criteria staff found that the ones that are highlighted in yellow have a consistency issue so the existing it would be at odds with the existing land use pattern uh potential adverse effects on living because of the introd reduction of commercial use within a residential area related to that is site access and traffic circul potential for uh impacts regarding that as I mentioned before potential impacts um the ability to improve or develop adjacent properties could be impaired if there's not U interest in investing in the Residential Properties that are around them because of the proximity to a commercial use and and then finally there's an important the comprehensive plan again this shows the residential extent on Chapel Avenue where the Cals are shown in black um in the C3 zoning District there's a long list of uh permitted uses that could be allowed on any property that has a C3 zoning it also includes all of the permitted uses in the C1 um zoning District so I think that's what is that one called it's not neighborhood commercial General does anybody know with the C1 I can't remember off the top of my head anyway C1 is community commercial Community commercial neighborhood Comm commercials in some places under the zoning District today under um the R2 District uh you could achieve I think it's units because there is a there was a platter some change in the parcel size of the one but it's a little less than what you could that you'd need to achieve the seven units so you could get up to five units and also for a two family dwelling type of housing type you could achieve up to eight units under the C3 General commercial you could achieve up to 17 units on that almost 1 acre site and then up to 27,7 48 square fet of non-residential here new investment in the neighborhood and staff's recommendation regarding the resoning is that we found that the request for to go from the R2 District to the C3 district is inconsistent with the goals objectives and policies of the comprehensive plan and the Land Development code and recommend um that the Planning and Zoning Board recommend the city council that the request be denied and I'll take questions later right or at this point um you also have um the report that was prepared that I'm sure you guys should have last night read you have or anything you've heard of the planner now is it time to ask I [Music] so yes if you know application was received in 2023 and it was scheduled to go for but the applicant um hold the application this property abds the fire station yes it does okay and there's a church further down the street um East off is we are looking at building a new fire station so that means the existing fire station that property to expand is that possible I analyed public uses [Music] are stage no oh that the the RV storage are not else question from the board at this point the applicant has an opportunity to ask any questions at the planner if there are any at this point all right then if not it's time for the applicant to present any information that they would like to present I don't really have information what I your name and address and I said we presented what our intentions are for the property with the application just your name for the record though Ryan Daly I'm son-in-law of the owners of the property perfect do you does anyone on the board have any questions on the applicant ready use is only good nothing else yeah that's what I was just going to say is that it's going to be in our hand in the community Through the restaurant and just being here for as long as we have I know there's use for it I there's people on the river alone will fill that storage lot up with their boats and toys is there a way to do a variance so they can use that property on a Varian basis uh without having to reone it no okay other questions um question the future does our planner have any questions to the applicant okay right then thank you you can have a seat thank you um all right this time you can comment and bring it [Music] back any comments from the board questions ready for a discussion you want public comment first sure okay any public comment anybody else want to say anything so now that I can talk on it so what would if you wanted in the future and they were amable to that the actual Community for public use to the same thing so them not building a building may help you in the future and I would just say if you know they used to have residential there and I know they showed the the nicest how um you know in the they had residents who took advantage of the rules and didn't pay rent for years and and cost them tens of thousands of dollars so this is a commun invested for Richie when not a lot of people were invest restaurant across the street this resoning buffers up and if if you pulled the map right back up there is no residential on both sides it it leads right into to your point sir leads right into the fire station and then there's not residential uh you know across the street no yeah we can't I just want to point out that if you're going to go against staff I've been on the other side of this and I don't usually that I mean this is something that uh doesn't hurt the and actually opens the door for potential partnership with the the city of Port Richie thank anyone else from the public please ma'am St your name for the record please and your address sh Kimi I live in 10825 new po but I'm the owner of the that property and that property that building that demolished it used to a commercial It was a commercial building that they we demolish it so is not said all of them is residential it wasn't it was old laundry back correct yes it was a commercial thank you anyone else in the public sir please my name is Joe brandow I own the lot right across the street on chap having you 7814 and I'm build getting ready to build a house on it I my permits in so I don't have a problem with it being a storage thing across the street from where I live so that's all I had to say I live it's directly across the street okay anyone else okay this time I close to the public and bring back to the board for discussion we'll go around Robin Mr press so I'm kind of on the same page as ronal um being I get that I I understand why fitting into our plan and fact that it's a butts residential all the way around makes sense that we don't want to push commercial use into that middle of that residential neighborhood but because our city ordinances also don't allow for you to put an RV in the front yard or a boat in the front yard without getting in trouble then RV in boat store in and amongst residential makes sense um but my concern would be as we've talked about multi multiple times on this board changing a land use category and changing a zoning category to allow for their use right now opens the door for the next use and what is the next use of that property um and that's something I think we have to discuss is is there a way to do this in a way that make sure that we don't open the door to a 27,000 ft Warehouse building or a 17 Unit multif family apartment building in the middle of that R1 residential space so me that ultimately I I like the idea of having the storage there I don't see a problem with that the problem I have is making sure that we don't do it in a way that opens it for it to become something else I was going to ask same question you were is there a way to handle this without opening that door on a more individualized basis for this particular use for this particular person okay ready I don't have any comment Lori I don't have any comment rition yeah I'd like to ask um you said there was a commercial building on that property yeah yes that was operating yes hold on this is this is between you guys yeah we're just having conversation here we'll bring it back to have conv there um I understood there was a a launder yes one time was La about on that building so we did use it for commercial at one time and the it directly abutted the um the back of the fire station so it was the Western most North corner of that prop that parcel that parcel and was then rezoned from commercial back to residential I don't think it's been turned back has it Tammy it's still still C3 according to the Future land use map and the zoning Atlas um there are no commercial designations on that site so I don't know if it was an old I don't know she's used to that may have predated it may have predated the comprehensive plan which would probably been about 19 what 1990 or uh 88 something like that and I'm not quite sure when you got zoning if it was like 75 the county got zoning in 75 so been here what a commercial building operating on an R1 doesn't make R2 R2 that would never happen Okay well that causes a little should go ahead and and the building was destroyed at the request of the city from what I understand I believe so yes yes so because it was blighted it was it was a was a Haven for undesirables for many many years there unfortunately yes ma'am actually we'll come back to that we're gonna actually address and have conversation that way we're just kind of discussing amongst ourselves currently I mean I I'm gonna go with it's an odd it's an odd request due to the way the future land snap lays out due to the fact if you know this physical neighborhood for many many years this has been not the best neighborhood vagrants homeless and everybody else thought it was a good place for them to just hang their hats which I thought was convenient to the fact that they needed Nar can the fire departments right right next door so that would made it really easy from that standpoint um they did in fact comply with the city and knock the building down to kind of clean it up and it does look a lot better already I personally agree with Mr fres on the fact that there is a serious need in our city for RV and because we are a boating community so much so that the council's had multiple conversations about having to change the code the way we have it now to be allow our residents go to park your boats in the front yard I will tell you as a as a real estate broker I don't agree with that they know it I think that actually properties are on the water but as such we have a real and this would fit that neede help that now said I wonder 34 on our packet if my if the rest of the board will go to the page 34 it's the um drawing that they have the conceptual site plan give a second to get there good okay my big is guess it be bring this back to the applicant when we get to that point and maybe also um Veronica's here so she can help as well obviously the e on this this drawing here is from the actual neighborhood that egress and put it on River Gulf now the applicant would lose a a couple of spots it looks like from their rentability but that would change access being through residential neighborhood it would go from uh that's their retention attention too right the pretention is they wouldn't lose any SP so I'm wondering if that kind of would kind of satisfy from that standpoint the required from the residential in addition to that and Mike's question about Foundation to council to modify and allow this but for a specified use only correct that and there was the um it allowed the change an agreement that they would only use it for that specific what they had applied for corre never they wouldn't change it um so that is an an option but you still have to allow the change I understood but you can you can specify what the CH that would be and Tammy will have to correct me I think the remember the the um was that with the there's a provision in your in Your Land Development code that allows you to stipulate you know a limited use conjunction with the zoning and that and would be filed that would be official and if should they sell the property whoever purchas it purchases purchases it is agreeing to do that but they can come back to council and ask that correct they can ask for change after the fact but which of course Council can deny and so absolutely not it's still a bud residential and this is all we've allowed for etc etc so and because of that effect as well you can also go through with building department and specify what you want as far as buffers which I see they got looks like a 12 foot land buffer there and they also between the residential other other projects an example is right across the street from our city hall there's an office building but it's zoned duplex right it's not zoned office or it's been allowed to have that use and my understanding is if they ever sell they cannot sell it as commercial property it has to go back to the is there a way we can Implement that to uh provide you yeah that's that's the old school way of doing I I own a pie I can't I can't there's a site but you can have a special exception for an office use in an R2 District so perhaps they use what their case is I know Pas County allows I own a piece of property that has that but if you look in the that's why we had um square footage for the zoning because you could have a non-residential use but it's limited to office that's not going to matter that's that's really apply to use it as something different anyway right but we wouldn't be I don't think we I mean we wouldn't be trying to set it so that if they if they sold it to someone else that also still wanted to operate it as an RV storage lot that we would want it to automatic to that use so that someone doesn't buy the RV part RV storage and turn it into something don't want in the long list C3 possibilities well like nanc as a in our our code anyway to allow that to to revert something back once we change the zoning the zoning is changed there's an amendment to the actual future landage P it's changed so you have to go back and change it the other direction if that was the case so okay all right M Meer how do we does that make you rewrite all this I don't like this I just I just act like I know what's going on no Tammy Tammy is your planner so she does the yes yes um but so that the planning aspect that is that is her and she prepared that so um I don't want you to think I'm I'm I'm in charge of that part but um yeah don't don't worry about if there's extra words that have to go on the page but you know just you want to get it right yeah no I was more concerned about what our what our path forward it sounds like a bunch of us are in agreement and we'll have to talk about if we are in agreement with that but it sounds like that that is a path forward so then what is the so if that if that is a consensus to do some kind of yes yes we'll we'll agree to this but with this caveat then um your as Sean had said you could recommend to council to approve with this condition or with this additional um requirement especially maybe if we don't if we make a requirement that you cannot build on that property if you're going to use it for storage at this point the option to use it uh utilize it for that purpose without the permission to build in any way that way we can set our needs as a community for storage which we don't have enough of and at the same utilize the property for what they want it for without making any real changes that it could come back and bite us later on the fire department may eventually need that property so having it vacant and maintaining it vacant if we ever have to expand on it might uh might help stud in itself okay because show on here I can't read it if what the surface of this parking areaa would be looks yeah otherwise it would have never got past her desk yeah even with correct but just even from a prelimin area you wouldn't even you wouldn't have a conversation I just thinking that because that I I know where he's going with it if you're that entire parcel then that may affect our thought because future use and other things right and run off laor my only concern is like access through a residential neighborhood because I have to deal with that over where I live you live and I do patronize it but it just shouldn't have been but it is now so so what do you thought about your thoughts about Mike think that's good I also board Miss Nancy um I think you would vindicate he come back up normally I would tell you not to if you're G let the applicant come back up let Tam we love to hear what he has to say absolutely yeah so you trying to do that first then we can just go to vote so we'll work on that next time it's hard okay first we have no intentions of Paving it um just probably stay crust gravel like it is right now we just mow it so that's not going to be um the entrance on like to where the laundry M building used to be there's a fence there that's set back between our property and the fire department that's where just hasn't been fixed but we have we're not having intentions of having the in andout off Chapel oh okay so it's going to stay where it is over there between the fire department there's already a setback where a fire truck could actually pull into the gate and not stick out in the road that's the whole intentions of this other part here um and lastly yeah I uh we would be perfectly fine if you guys would be able to do that where you make an you know like an amendment to it to where we can only use it for storage and if we had to sell it you guys would have to do a vote that's sure we have no intentions about doing anything besides like what we're saying storage I'll go in and mow it keep it grass and we'll just have a a fence around it that's it that's all I have to say any questions or comments for the applicate okay thank you sir oh you readyy go ahead you I very doable you the the motion that that has to be part of motion anyway from that standpoint correct wrong that's a that's a site review issue far as as far as access to if you're going to allow the zoning change particular that we're talking about for him to be to utilize this process or property for this Pur purpose that the axis only be off of one particular direction that wouldn't have to be on would oh it should oh okay yeah so I'm correct it would be during site plan review anyway so make a new site plan oh sorry that's there's another step after this one or a couple you'll um spend some time so the the the Proviso you were talking about to limit the uses zoning but site plan is another step so understood perfect yeah so that's another but assuming that we were willing to approve it with the Proviso but it sounds like only if we know that the access is going to be not on that residential so does that need to be part of what we're doing now I would yes I would put that in there so we need does this and that it doesn't access Chapel yeah any any conditions you want to put forth I would include in that okay I require a a six foot solid fence around there so it's that would be visible I don't know what our fence code depends on our fence code which eight foot I yeah that's it'll follow the code yeah it'll follow it'll follow whatever code we actually have for fence and we covered that about switching over that to the C3 correct able to have like the gate open somewhere there on the chap on chapel side for like an emergency exit if we had to have or for some reason it had to get in and out and it had to open it like we as the owners had and we could use it if we had to for emergency longer trailer or whatever the case may be not going to be everyday use it would be that's a question for Ronica use only you can do that in any gate on any side because it's not not direct doesn't need an apron so as long as it doesn't need an apron you don't care if it's fence or gate right the short answer is yes okay that's all thank you yeah don't speak for ZM has anything else Tammy any other comments or questions ready vote all right yes absolutely all right so now we're ready to vote so we're going to take these one at a time your first one is um going to be ordinance 20 map to redesignate the three Parcels from residential to commercial mixed use okay do I have any motions I will entertain any motions the wording this correct the provis that the the conditions will be connected to the zoning that' be zoning yes so that's the next one so not this this is comprehensive this one you're changing change it you change it so you just need a motion to approve I'll make a motion have a second second all in favor I I okay your next one is going to be ordinance 25710 and this ordinance the zoning map to redesignate the three Parcels from R22 family residential to C3 General commercial now Mike I have notepad open let me type it up I didn't say that Ashley said that now can I just reference in the motioning recommending the council approve ordinance 25710 or do I need to no you can no you can recommend that they approve ordinance 25- 710 with and then explain what you want the conditions so do we call out limited to specifics or do we call it as limited to the proposed you want to call it specific how we get specific okay with access from etc etc trying to make C okay I motion to recommend the council that they approve ordinance 25710 with the following condition that the use of the site be that the use of the site be limited to boat and RV storage with access from River Gulf Road only perfect do I have a second second all in favor I so moved okay right that's done all right do we have any other I any other motions we have have another there's another anothera another one more agenda item not leaving yet that means there's something else to do they were like okay I was ignoring this one all right Miss Tammy it's today your day I'll be in touch with you about that conditional do okay if you can wait we can talk about it now or I can call you later all right all right thank [Music] you I'll tell you what you're doing give me one second I'm on the wrong page all right now you're going to hear proposed comprehensive plan text Amendment changes that will align the city's with State statutes um following the latest evaluation and Appraisal notification from Florida commerce gotcha make some plan if you guys age you need to stop backing on then it can't be my fault it can't be my fault okay can you hear me plausible deniability can you hear me now good okay so um you got a big packet with a lot of policies um and this is a response to the city's evaluation and Appraisal of its comprehensive plan we did that in 2023 we shipped it off to the state um they approved it and then they said okay well submit your amendments that you identified um within one year so we did work on that this past year we were met with the comprehensive land use plan committee I think we met maybe six times times there I think we started in February and we ended maybe June more than that it sure seems like more than that yeah I know sometimes it was like every other week yeah um but then you know things happen and whatever so here we are but that's that's okay we're we're not slowed down by this so um so what we're going through tonight is um the identifi changes to those elements that came about through the evaluation and appraisal and what that does is specifically look at changes to State Statute since the last time the comprehensive plan was updated the last update to the comp plan was I believe 2010 maybe 2011 I think it was appr but it was around that time so it's been a good long time also your comprehensive plan has the title 2020 that's the Verizon year so since we're beyond that we need to push it out so it's now going to be the 2045 comprehensive plan um there is a requirement used to be 10 years for cities now it's 20 years for everyone um so you need to look at um what your needs are out to that and then identify policy to help you address those needs so in the evaluation and appraisal report there were changes that were that affected the elements that you see here Transportation infrastructure conservation and Coastal management intergovernmental coordination and Capital Improvements element so jumping right in the first one is um there's just a few I think there's too and the transportation element so um the statute identified um that us19 which is a facility on the Strategic Intermodal system of the state needs to be recognized as such in the comp plan um also it's a requirement that uh the city coordinates with other jurisdictions for facilities that run through their communities including the dot so that's simply what this policy does is just to mention that US1 19 is a cyst facility coordinate with those other local governments to set your level of service standards in the city next what is a addressing recreational traffic through a policy in your comprehensive plan and I will add you know the the Planning and Zoning Board is the author supposedly of the they're the ones that create the comprehensive plan staff helps you so if there's anything that you see that you feel you'd like to add to or change you know feel free to to suggest but this is uh dealing with recreational traffic um you know just making sure that you're providing safe and efficient connections to the places that that people want to go in your community by U walking or biking next is the infrastructure element and uh Matt worked very hard the city manager on a water supply facilities work work plan for a a 10-year period so it's the 2025 to 2035 water supply facilities work plan that demonstrates that the city has enough water supplies and and adequate facilities to meet the needs of the existing and any projected population um because the city is doing uh better at or maybe not better I don't know what they were doing back but initially was 105 gallons per day per person or capita um but the numbers show that that number could be dropped so they're proposing the city's proposing to drop that to 96 gallons per day per capita and as I mentioned before that standard applies to both water supplies and also your your treatment and dist distribution infrastructure this one just recognizes the water supply facilities work plan and this was just beeping that existing policy of to State what's required five years when the southwest Florida Water Management District um updates months to update their water supply plans everything's coordinated like accounting everybody's paying attention to what's coming in and what's going out so in the intergovernmental coordinate and I'm skipping Coastal and conservation or conservation and Coastal management because it's it's a bigger bite so let's just get through these easy ones intergovernmental coordination there was um statute changed uh to take out the use of resolution processes it's now a mandatory so if there is a a a potential for a dispute between local governments or local governments and state governments um there is a process for that the Tampa Bay Regional planning Council a facilitator in those types of things but we just wanted to in place of mandatory and then also related to that is just these little tweaks we had to take out volunteer and and these other ones so pretty straightforward stuff in the Capital Improvements element um we the city has a concurrency management system um that show that the city looks at the available capacity in its required public facilities to make sure that there is capacity available to meet the demands of not only the what you have existing in terms of development but what you are entertaining for future development so you go through that process like when I do the level of service analysis he that's what we're looking at how much is left and will it be is there any need for changing or upgrading the facilities to be able to accommodate development so we updated that the city has a concurrency management system so we don't necessarily have to say all the things that's going to be in the code because it already is so it's just an update um also within this this table which includes all the city's level of service standards in the Capital Improvements element it's also stated within the infrastructure element and some other places but we just wanted to carry over that 96 gallons per day per capita um for portable water and then also relative to the concurrency management system um we just clean up referencing the statute just making sure that it's clear oops okay so now I'm G to switch over so the con the co conservation and Coastal management element had a requirement in statute that the City include Peril of flood policies that were required uh by Statute and the city needed to add those so coming off the heels of your vulnerability assessment and your adaptation plan we had the information because we kind of held off on doing this for a while we were waiting for data so we had the data and then we figured if we were going in and really addressing Peril of flood we may as well just update the entire element because the information was quite quite dated so this just shows the the table of contents so in the process of of you know we met with the comprehensive Landes plan committee you know listening to comments from um the local meetings um and also just understanding what the the data and Analysis were saying in the in this element we came up with these key planning issues so the top issues if you will under conservation is management of groundwater resources so making sure that that you have sufficient supplies uh there there was some evidence of a saltwater intrusion so over over pumping or pump along with all the the EnV pollution largely related to um groundwater so there is a the P chemical them also surface waters a lot about I think the councilman over here talking about or somebody was talking about pollution in the canals was it somebody who's talking about pollution in the canals but anyway overall in an urban place um with a lot of paav surfaces and runoff that's knows how how systems are in your community they're that storm waters are running all through the county um that it really is um something to keep on top of as far as keeping your Waters clean because your Waters in Port Richie are very important to you because you know it's it's a here and then there's the St sustainable management of ecosystems and also related to Urban places that have been developed is that um ecosystems tend to get impacted fragmented you know they're destroyed so have making sure that you're you're keeping what you value Coastal resiliency issues flood resilience that's that's a comes right to the top of the list economic and social Equity relative to resilience so people in your community who are lowincome who are elderly who don't have access to good Transportation how are in the in the face of disasters how are we accommodating all of the community um who may have um difficulties in accessing services or upgrading their homes or whatever the case may be and then the last one is post- disaster Redevelopment plan there is a requirement that Coastal communities address post- disaster Redevelopment within their comprehensive plan and strongly encourage that communities develop a post- disaster Redevelopment plan a pdrp um so there are some stipulate some policies within the comp plan that we'll go through um we're not really go through everything but it's in there that addresses what would go into a post disaster Redevelopment plan so the element um and I I will add that the old element the adopted one that's on the books today will be repealed and it will be replaced so there's not a lot of underlining and strike through because that would just be maddening to me putting it together but you all reading it as well and also it's very dated information so we just want to slide it out in with the new and it there's a lot of thought put into these policies so but there's always room for improvement so we want to hear from you if you have suggestions so these are the five goals which organize oh look at my community engagement doesn't have a Capital C um the first goal is natural and cultural resources the second is Coastal resiliency the third goal isness and evacuation the fourth is post disaster Redevelopment and then the fifth is community engagement and part so under the first goal natural and cultural resources we've broken that into seven objectives under which there are supporting policies so we've broken this down into ecosystem preservation habitat protection air quality water conservation energy conservation which is required by resour protection under Coastal resiliency goal two we we look at risk assessment and mapping so keeping on top of changing conditions and what's happening in the envir environment um relative to Coastal resiliency public infrastructure and keeping that safe from um flooding natural flood protection through green infrastructure that provides ecosystem Services of course land planning and regulation so keeping new development out of Harm's Way building standards so building those flood structures and then finally risk financing and insurance including the community in system that um keeps helps to inur Gold three is emergency preparedness and evacuation um this is showing that you know that you're uh you're preparing for the emergencies that will come and that you're also keeping in mind what the evacuation needs are there is a statute that we have included in the in the um in the policies and goal four we have three objectives post disaster recovery so getting things need to be done as quickly as possible done and then post- disaster repair and development so you know getting businesses open and people and then also then there's the post- disaster Redevelopment what you've learned which you I'm sure there are events we all learn and and so what could we do better or do in advance or um what we plan to handle things better in the future always room for improvement and the last one should be um community outreach and engagement but I didn't do that I did this very quickly my my slides are not as as up as they normally are um the objective engagement so really invol the community keeping informed and engaged and then also partnership partners with the county Partnerships with the state Partnerships with business all all the people you know we government can't local government but there's certainly um willing Partners out there to help oops I guess that was it so with that um instead of I can't go through every single policy because we will be here till next Tuesday but if you have any questions on specific specific policies I'm going to pull up my my document and I'll be happy to answer any questions you might have all these different policies so who we we approve it the council approv and everything who interprets these things and then who enforce so there's the policies address a lot of different things implementation happens in various ways um for for instance if you show that you have within Coastal management but in infrastructure that you show that growing and you're seeing that you're not going to have enough infrastructure then that's something that would be handled through uh Capital Improvements planning and budgeting so that's one way um for things like development standards and I I'm going to bring up the wetlands I forgot to bring that up before if there are standards or things that sort of guide development I talked about neighborhood compatibility or compatible land uses density and intensity um things that say thou shalt do this when that are they Land Development regulations it's best when you can take those policies and move them into your Land Development code um other ones are aspiration for something that could somebody might get a grant or a group may come forward and want to do something the policies your comp plan help you to get the CR says look this community is really the want create a more resilient community so therefore we see some commitment they've already put it in a plan but this that thou shalt do them um you know if it can't push came to sh they could just be taken out of the comprehensive plan you know they could you could always amend it through there's something that's problematic I will bring up while I was thinking about it there were some Wetland policies so how you treat applications of wetland category one category two category three category one are the larger more like more of a system that are really valuable all the way down to category three which might be small isolated not as not as important ecologically um the city has for category one and two on the books today they require a third foot Upland buffer and that's zone is not only important for flood um assimil attenuation assimilation I'm not quite sure what the word is but it's also you know habitat area you need to have land between the Uplands and the water for things to happen so for category one we foot buffer up buffer but for the category two in that case we're deferring to Swift um I can't say for sure it's 25 but I think in most cases because they they value it based on conditions that are happening on on a site but I believe it's about 25 so that did that proposal so um certainly something that we can there I don't know if Minds have changed after the situation that you know all the but that's that's something to be um to be considered does that answer your question not really but how does how is the policies implemented well let me just say something else I the reason I'm kind of interested in this is that I spent all last week in Los Angeles in the middle of those fires okay okay and now looking at this last year year before or some years back relatively recent there's a Los Angeles city council and there was all these different councils like us and they were talking just like this talks and and I think they were paying a price that yeah okay and so concerns talking about climate change talking about endangered species and things like that I just think without any real specifics there's flow language in there so it's not a code it's not a Land Development code but if there's anything that wants to take from that and make into a code provision a logical step um is it you know it's it's a policy this has it's the comprehensive plan it's your city's Constitution relative to land use and development what would happen if the city doesn't approve this just if the city doesn't approve that then they would not be able to amend their comprehensive plan in the future they would not cut off from grant opportunities so there are some sticks if you don't adopt now is the state adopt all those precise words no but they do want to see that you've got in statute there are things you shall you shall address flood potentials um hurricane evacuation Sheltering space doesn't tell you how to do it in most cases but it does do it so we do need to have the policies we need to have a comprehensive plan but there's a lot of latitude for you know the uniqueness of a community to come through in their policies what you know as a planner I when I go into a community I can't talk to everybody and be all up to speed because everybody's got a different opinion anyway but I have their comprehensive plan I knew at some point those things were important to people and so that's City councils it was important to them when they adopted it so that's what I use to make my decision you know I don't I don't make these things up on my own I'm used my it's kind of the guard rails of or in some cases things might be a little gray and you could say well the comp plan says this know it's supportive you know a lot of times the comp plan is supportive of the actions that you want to do it's very rarely that things happen like tonight where it's just you know kind of coming up against um a request but um yeah that's kind of how it works it's I know it is not it's not code it's not Thou shalt do this it's it's the city's policy to consider these things protect these things or what not yeah May fewer words the the people that enforce this are you you know you're the the front line of all these policies because development that occurs is going to be coming for you and then ultimately to city council so ultimately city council this is their vision or you know I guess a longer version you know over time Council makes those decisions makes the policies that Implement these sometimes aspirational goals less or more necessary and then you know from back end that once there there ordinances laws that are put into place it's the staff that it goes about to enforce it but but the front line actually is you and and that's why this process starts you know through the Planning Commission to make sure that these are things that you want to within the community and you believe are important for future development um you know good of the community and then ultimately Council uh weighs in as well [Music] this well I started with your existing comp plan and then I reviewed other cities that have like City of Clear Water City tarpet Springs I looked at what their comprehensive plans were including I looked at the statute so I see a provision and then I craft something my lot of it's just a it's a blend but pretty much it came from meeting with a comp PL kind of work sming things and I mean we've been working on this for almost a year so were there Town Hall were was any of this this did the city the citizens get any opportunity during that when you were doing all of that stuff in here to be involved in any of the vision well there you know there obviously those meetings were open to the public um there was uh the ability for public that attended and I say there was very little attendance we did have some though we did yeah um but the reality is the the public process really begins here and then goes to the city council and then once city council if they determine that they want to adopt it the state comes back and again there's another opportunity for the public to comment on it yeah I mean I'm just because you're going to get yelled at for you didn't listen to them if opportunity was given that this verbiage was designed by staff written by you vetted discussed by us and they had opportunity to the plan the vision for the whole thing um then I mean I we've had multiple discussions about the difference between what what they need and the government's job is imp things that are needed that a lot of people don't understand need to be there in the first place um so that was really you know I that before the evaluation appraisal process you know I did City of Newport uh it was a big robust process we had visioning we had workshops we did Visual and that went into addressing their major issues so we had five big things and they built their compreh around that but that requirement went away and so a lot of times communities are just looking as are you keeping up with State statutes and that's what this effort was it's just that when we were going in and we saw what sort of you know the policies regarding resiliency which it wasn't even called resiliency back then when that was put together they were all over the place and so rather than trying to figure that out why not just um deal with all those different places and pulling things together why not just update the element we just thought it was like a value ad thing to do um but if you were doing your future land use element Transportation element housing element I would think you'd go out to the community they may not be as concerned with conservation is more of like a feel-good element it's the things that people care about you know they they care about life I've I've read so many comments of people in Port Richie and in Pasco County the the environment is things that people care about so but I think it in terms land use Transportation housing those might be the time where people would maybe more be more excited about coming to a meeting to get involved and I think there has to be a commitment to actually do those things I mean we I know came and I've spoken many times about we have to do a broader planning process within the community and get into those elements the problem is though you can't get into those elements until you have the ability to get into those elements and right now until we get this submitted we don't have that local control to start going back and doing that that right the next planning that no I yeah I I you got to have a vision I mean I yeah I tell my guys that all the time we got to begin with the the end in mind you guys you know that that's I just wanted to kind of know where what your general that's what I say again with the end in mind but hey I I love it when a community has a vis it makes my job easy it makes your job easy so we because then we're just we're building to the plan the question regarding was about page4 was the severely damaged structures um who modified that from from 50% to 45% and as such to the citizens know as such I'm glad you brought that up that's why it's yellow highlighted um when we were going through the committee process there was discussion about going to 49 was it I think the mayor told me had discussions of putting it 45 but that's Chang you just met on Tuesday regarding that so we're gonna bump that up to 50 so thank you so much oh is it okay for pointing that out all right so that's a non issue you put a lot of responsibility on both Matt and a civil defense coordinator is that a department or a person it's a person and do we have that person I think it's Matt isn't it Matt I think the way that the state law would look at it yeah is probably me well you have two there he's got un yes he's got both a civil defense do we have to have a dedicated civil defense I think the civil defense piece though is the way reads if I'm not mistaken because it's not that's not the way it's worded within the charter so I think well is there's a recommendation for making this aligned with your or or you know we had I believe we had that discussion one of the we did club meetings and and we kind of Coes around that that was something that was probably in State Statute somewhere and they're actually you know probably the duties are interchangeable so we just said leave it like that mistake okay we just buy him another hat yeah were too he just switches back and forth I'm I'm pretty sure that it's old it's old language and state statute that you know when you look at the duties are the same as emergency manager so civil defense isn't a half that's a hel different that's different we have to be protected in case there's a rare smelt around that would affect all our water supplies too that's a lot are we be able to detail if you at our Leisure and have another you certainly you guys want to we can actually table it um it's gonna come back soon so you're gonna have to read that's not gonna it's not gonna um but if you think you need more time to make that recommendation do we need a motion to table it that would be yes would you like to make a motion to table yes I'd like to make a motion to take Amendment the evaluation and Appraisal based comprehensive plan amendments the comprehensive plan in front of us to our next Mee okay time discussion or a second second all in favor okay now do I have any other motions now you can ask that like one to a turn Mo to a turn Okay do I have a second all in favor thank you