All right, welcome to the December regular meeting of the Princeton Historic Preservation Commission being held in person on December 15, 2025 at 5:00 p.m. in the main meeting room of the Princeton Municipal Building at 400
Witherspoon Street, Princeton, New Jersey. Pursuant to section 13 of the open public meetings act, adequate notice of the time and place and agenda of this meeting has been noticed by transmitting a copy to the Princeton packet, town topics, the times, the
tranonian, and by filing a copy with the clerk of Princeton and has been posted to the municipal website www.princetonj.gov/meings GV/meings and posted on the official bulletin board at the Princeton Municipal Complex
at 400 Witherspoon Street, Princeton, New Jersey. Okay. Can you take the role? >> Yes. Miss Satderfield? >> Mr. Shatskin? >> Here. >> Miss Howard? >> Here. >> Mr. Shaw? >> Here.
>> Miss Freriedman. >> Miss Croll? >> Here. Miss Maria >> here. >> Chairperson Capazali >> here. So, um, our announcement is that this is
Elizabeth's last meeting, which is pretty hard to get my head around. And after this meeting, we will be joining each other in the community room and everybody is welcome. So, I'm looking forward to that.
Um, it's also Ed Schmeer's last meeting and Ed has been representing either the township HBC or the municipal HBC for
40 years >> at least >> forever >> 40 since since the 80s for sure. So it's a monumental occasion. We have um
resolutions regarding the open public meetings act. Our first is the schedule 2026 schedule of meetings calendar. We have moved our meeting from Mondays to Tuesdays. So we are the
fourth Tuesday of every month which does not seem to conflict with any holidays. >> Correct. >> It's a miracle. So, uh, you should have received the dates
January 27th, February 24th, March 24th, April 28th, May 26th, June 23rd, July 28th, August 25th, September 22nd, October 27th, November 24th, and December 22nd.
So, those are our meeting dates. We have a notice of special meetings and that was printed in our packet. I don't have to read this, do I? Yeah. So, anyway, this was >> printed. Um,
and then uh we also have our resolution for fixing charges for meeting notices. I guess uh so those are things we always do every
month or every year. Sorry. So would someone like to make a motion to pass those three items of business? >> So moved. >> Thanks, David. Second. Second.
>> Thanks, Shirley. All in favor, please say I. >> I. >> I. >> Opposed. Motion carried. Okay. The second is appointing the nominating committee.
Uh, does anyone remember what last year's nominating committee was? Usually the person who isn't here >> Charlotte was on there I think >> was Charlotte >> I think so
>> David and Charlotte >> okay >> oh he might have been >> so would someone like to nominate David and Charlotte again uh so moved >> okay thanks Emily
It's been moved by Emily. >> Second. >> Seconded by Roger. All in favor, please say I. >> I. >> Opposed. Motion carried. Congratulations. >> Okay. Now we have four sets of minutes.
Um the September 15th minutes um were regarding 258 John Street. Um
and also the state road markers um so Freda, Maria, Shirley, Charlotte, Roger, myself, Elrich, Elmilly, and David. Um
would I only had one change on page seven. Um instead of the word intensive I think it should read expensive.
Um other than that I don't have any other changes. Everything is >> um so if there are no other suggestions, would someone like to move approval of the minutes for September 15th, 202?
>> Thanks, Roger. Is there a sec? >> Oh, thanks, Freda. >> Um all in favor, please say I. >> I. >> I. >> Opposed? >> Motion carried. All right. The second um
set of minutes is October 20th, 2025. Um this was all of the seminary properties and 210 Cherry Hill. Um and Edward's place was a long meeting.
Um I didn't have any changes. Um, if there are none, would someone like to move approval of the October 20th minutes?
Okay, thanks, Maria. Okay, Maria's um made the motion. Is there a second? >> Thanks, Roger. All in favor, please say I. >> I. Opposed? Motion carried.
Okay. Um, right. The November minutes we're going to be doing in January. That's right. Okay. And then the last set was uh December 1st, our special meeting. That
whole meeting was just 344 Nassau Street. I um only have one change on page seven on the part the second bullet it says steel lobby
I would just take out steel um other than that I didn't have any changes um other suggestions if not would someone like to move the December 1st minutes,
>> Julie. Um, steel. I thought I remembered hearing that. >> Yeah, we talked about it and it's in another section, but this was talking about the planters and the concrete >> and it was confusing because it had nothing to do with the steel. >> Got it. Thank you.
>> Would someone like to move those minutes? Thanks, Roger. Is there a second? You want a second? >> Oh. Oh, you weren't here. Who was here? Okay, David, you second. Thank you. All in favor, please say I.
>> I. >> You have minutes. >> Anyone opposed? >> Thank you, Ian. >> Yeah, >> it was a really long complicated meeting. We appreciate it. Thank you, >> Madam Chair.
>> Yes. >> I just would like to um express my appreciation for Ian to get HPC minutes up to date for the first time in almost 10 years. >> So, he did a great job. I mean, >> he worked endlessly to try to catch up.
And uh I you know I think that we really want to thank him that we're able to start a fresh year. >> A round of applause for Ian. Thank you. >> Thank you Ian. We really do appreciate it. Believe me. Um it's never been done
before. All right. So did we vote on that last one? I think we did. >> You did? >> Yeah. Okay. So, now we have the resolution of 610 Nassau Street, the uh snow guards. We just got that resolution
this afternoon, but it's not very complicated. So, um would someone like to uh make a motion to approve this resolution? >> Thanks, David. Is there a second? Thanks, Roger.
I guess we'll do a roll call. Miss Satderfield. >> Yes. >> Mr. Shatskin. >> Yes. >> Miss Howard? >> Yes. >> Mr. Shore? >> Yes. >> Miss Croll?
>> Yes. >> Miss Maria? >> Yes. >> Chairperson Capazolei? >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. Now for for other matters we have two resolutions.
The first resolution is for Ed Shmeir um who like I said has been our legal counsel forever. He's not here but if he ever sees the YouTube video he can watch it there.
I'm wondering um I I think that it's great to do it here because then it'll be memorialized, but I'm also wondering maybe you could also do it during the holiday party. >> Yeah, we'll do it as many times as he wants us to. >> Okay, so I'm just going to read it. Everyone has a copy.
>> Resolution. >> Princeton Historic Preservation Commission. >> I don't have a copy. >> What? >> You don't have a copy? >> No. Right here. Thank you. >> Princeton Historic Preservation Commission, Mercer County, New Jersey.
Whereas Edwin Shmere has served as a legal adviser to the Princeton Historic Preservation Commission before and after consolidation from 2013 to December 2025.
Whereas during his tenure, Mr. has shown a deep understanding of municipal law, land use law, and Princeton's historic preservation ordinance. Whereas, Mr. Schmeir has demonstrated professionalism,
integrity, and wisdom in advising the historic preservation commission. Whereas, Mr. Shmere has given thoughtful, clear, and measured guidance on complex issues related to historic
preservation. Whereas the Historic Preservation Commission of Princeton wishes to thank Mr. Shmere for his wise council and to express its heartfelt appreciation for his invaluable service.
Now therefore, be it resolved that the PR Historic Preservation Commission of Princeton offers its sincerest gratitude to Edwin Shmere for his years of support and guidance and wishes him the best in his
future endeavors. This 15th day of December 2025, Julie Capazolei, Emily Kroll, Charlotte Freriedman, Freda Howard, Marita Kudsukov Kova, David Shore, Shirley Satderfield,
Roger Shatskin, and Leighton Newland Council. All right. Thank you. Round of applause for Ed. even if he's not here. I have it in a beautiful um folder here and we'll present it to
him when we see him. I have a second resolution and this is a very special resolution for Elizabeth and I hope everyone will read along with me when I
read this into the record. >> Amen. >> Resolution Princeton Historic Preservation Commission, Mercer County, New Jersey. Whereas Elizabeth Kim has served as Princeton Historic Preservation Officer for more than a decade from November
2014 to December 2025. Whereas Miss Kim has shown throughout the years a deep respect and appreciation for historic preservation. Whereas during her tenure, Miss Kim has been an extraordinarily dedicated
professional and has assisted historic preservation commission with numerous applications and complex issues. Whereas, Miss Kim has achieved state and national recognition for the award-winning projects that she has
overseen and managed, such as the restoration of Princeton's 1792 Stony Brook Bridge. Whereas, the Historic Preservation Commission of Princeton wishes to thank Miss Kim for contributions and to
express its heartfelt appreciation for her valuable service. Now therefore, be it resolved that the Historic Preservation Commission of Princeton offers its sincerest gratitude to Elizabeth Kim for her contributions
and wishes her the very best in her future endeavors. This 15th day of December 2025, Julie Capazolei, Emily Croll, Charlotte Freriedman, Freda Howard, Maria Kotukova, David Shore, Shirley Satderfield, Roger
Sodskin, and Leighton Nulan Council. Applause everyone. And I'm just going to run down and give it to her. I just want to thank all the historic preservation commission members.
now and previously that have really made my time here really worthwhile. I mean, it was more than I thought that it would be. It's been a challenge, believe me, but it's been a wonderful challenge with all of you supporting me
and each other and um for the good of Princeton and um for the preservation that makes Princeton what it is. Thank you. Thank you. We appreciate you so much. And we're going to just celebrate you over there
in just a minute. Um, okay. I don't Leighton. Thanks, Julie. Yeah, you know, we're going to recognize both Ed and uh our
esteemed leader here at our last council meeting, but I would be remiss if I didn't say at this time how grateful I am to um have learned from all of you on this day is and from Elizabeth since I've been on
council. You know, I'm I'm not a historic preservation person. Um, but I'm a native son here and I love the history here. I love being born and raised here. And I have, you know, through serving on this HPC, come to have a much greater
appreciation not only of being born and raised here, but of what Princeton means to people uh that have history, have architectural design, and have love for uh
history. So, I I I just want to say to you on a personal note, not just from me, but from the rest of my council members, that I know at times you felt like you're always swimming upstream or climbing uphill, but we so much
appreciate the intestinal fortitude, Elizabeth, the strength, the courage, the willingness to push back as sometimes may not have felt like you were being recognized for the good, but you have been, you are,
and you always will be. So, I just want to tell you we love you and uh you know, we I I I on a personal level have really come to appreciate, you know, people giving 25 30 years of their time in municipal government
because let's be real, you know, municipal government ain't the highest paying jobs there are. People could do well in the public in the private industry. So, from me to you, from all of us, we love you. We thank you. and um keep it coming on and and come back and
visit. And thank you for keeping Princeton not only historic but um fooled with values of regular people and appreciating both history, the past, the present and the future at the same time is a very tough needle to
thread. But my friend, you threaded that needle very well like a tailor. and we appreciate everything that you've done and we wish you nothing but the best love and fun in your future. May God bless you always. Thank you.
>> You Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So I have one more announcement. We are very lucky that um Sarah Quinnland is here and she will be our
new historic preservation officer and we're very fortunate that she agreed to come here because she isn't working here yet, but we really appreciate the introduction and um getting to know you better
and uh knowing that you two have have met and that we can have a a collaborative partnership with all of us and uh you know make this make this work. Keep
making this work. And anyway, and and Justin is here too if you guys don't know him. He's the planner for Princeton and we've got him for a few minutes. So after this, if you've got any questions,
just go for it. All right. Um, is there any public comment? I don't think so. And no staff reports. Thank goodness. Right.
That's it. Someone want to make a motion to adjourn? >> I just want to um thank Leighton for his kind words. I mean, we've had several um council liaison, and I think that each one brought something different, but I
do want to thank you and acknowledge how you have worked to learn what historic preservation was about and opening yourself to it and um really engaging in all the applications that we had. And I think that that really shows a lot for
um Don't get started, Leon. um that you know that you take the time to always come to our meetings and ask the the good questions that you do to understand how HBC is dealing with every application. So, thank you for being the
liaison for HPC. >> Thank you. Thank you all. >> Thank you. >> All right. So, I think let's let's go next door. We have all this food waiting. All right. Uh, yeah. Is there a motion
to adjurnn? Okay. David and a second. >> Second. >> FA. >> David made a motion. FA second it. Thank you everybody. See you next