Good evening and welcome. This is a regular meeting of the Princeton Planning Board on Thursday, April 17, 2025. To section 13 of the Open Public Meetings Act, adequate notice of the time and place of this meeting has been given by prominently posting the
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before the board will be muted. Miss Phillip, call the role, please. Certainly. Mr. Badakimer, here. Miss Capolei, here. Mr. Cohen, here. Mayor Frereda.
U Mark, you're um you're mute. Yeah. Oh, calling in by phone, too. Thank you. Oh. Oh, I see. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry, I'm having trouble here. That's all right. Thank you. Um Mr. McGawen here. Miss
Na. Mr. O'Donnell here. Miss Fear Mutter here. Mr. Taylor here. Miss Wilson Anderson here. Mrs. Wilson here. We have a quorum. Thank you. [Music]
Um any announcements from board members or staff before we dive into our um other business? Okay. Seeing none, um I'm aware that we do not have any subcommittee reports this evening and
the minutes that's uh may be on your agenda uh are being uh tabled um uh for a future meeting. Um so we're going straight into the hearing uh on the 2023
Princeton master plan and master plan re-examination appendix 11-11. This is the environmental resource inventory which has been underway for quite some time. So it's great to see it uh finished and coming
to us. And so I'll turn to Mr. Leco to start us off. And uh thank you Jerry so-called fresh in my mind. Can you speak to jurisdiction and notice please? The board has jurisdiction. Notice is proper. All the requisites have been fulfilled. Okay. Yeah. And and since
this is a formal hearing, I will swear in everybody who testifies. Okay, good. Justin, let's go. Yes. Thank you, Madam Chair. Would you like to start with me, Jerry? Yes. DJ, where are you, Justin? Uh, oh, yeah.
Okay. Yeah. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give will be the truth? Yes, I do. So, sworn are affirmed. Thank you. Thank you. And good evening, members of the board and members of the public. Um, I'm just going to give a brief introduction to what we're doing tonight. It's not too dissimilar from uh the hearing that we
had a few months ago um about the stormwater mitigation plan. Um this is like Jerry said a formal hearing uh to adopt an appendix of the master plan. So it's also somewhat similar to what we did uh the nine hours to adopt the plan a few years back. Um maybe it won't go
that long. But um uh I'll introduce everyone that's here. But before we get into that, I just want to show a page from the current plan. Uh Jerry, do we need to mark this as an exhibit if it's in our current master plan? Uh no, if you could just identify it. Um Justin,
sure. Certainly. This is on page 168 of the conservation, open space, and recreation element of the master plan that this board adopted. Um and this is the section about coordination throughout the master plan uh that we find at the end of each element. Now, this one specifically, um mentions the
environmental resource inventory, and I'm going to read directly from it. Uh it says the er environmental resource inventory ERRI is a living document like the master plan that details all natural resources and environmentally significant features throughout Princeton. The ERRI provides specific
data and information on surface water, groundwater, soils, wetlands, forests, geology, flood planes, and critical wildlife to support implementation of this conservation, open space, and recreation plan element. Princeton's prior ERRI was prepared in 2010 by
DVRPC. Uh the the Delaware Valley Regional Planning Commission for our area for the former burrow and former township. The municipality expects to prepare and adopt a revised ERRI following the adoption of this master plan. The information in the new ERRI
will inform the planning board and environmental commission on decisions related relating to conservation and environmental management. Um, so like I said last time, the the key word here is I for inventory. Um, as I'm sure our uh
consultant uh Tristan Harrison will get into in a minute. Um, but here's where this idea kind of came uh to not only create this master plan that we haven't or this uh excuse me inventory that we haven't updated since 2010. Um, but also to adopt it as an appendix of the master
plan to help you uh with your decisions um when they come. Uh just moving on uh a little more throughout the plan. Um there are general conservation recommendations for this element on page 170 and recommendations 19 and 20 uh
both kind of directly uh relate to the ERRI. Uh the first says maintain consistency between the master plan and the new ERRI and the second says pursue conservation of lands identified by NJ conservation blueprint and coordinate with Princeton's environmental resource
inventory. I bring that up because you'll probably see a map uh pretty soon uh from Mr. Harrison uh that does just that uh with the NJ conservation blueprint provided by the state. Um you'll see several other maps that are either very similar to the ones within
this element or are nearly identical to them. Um so without further ado, um I'll just introduce everyone that's here tonight that worked on this plan or this inventory, excuse me. Um, we have Tristan Harrison from Clark Hints, like I mentioned, a licensed professional
planner. We have Danna Stockton, our municipal engineer and deputy administrator for infrastructure and operations. Um, and we have Ingga Reich, our open space manager as well, uh, within our engineering department. Um, and alongside me and really alongside
the environmental commission, uh, we worked on this inventory for the past couple months, um, if not really an idea that that goes back years, um, to bring it to you today. So, with all that being said, I don't know if there's anything Deanna or Ingga would like to add at
this time, um, but I would otherwise hand it over to Tristan now. Tristan, if you could raise your I would like to um as we swear in Tristan, also swear in um Deanna and Eningga um so that anybody who chimes in or or you
know would be helpful to have with answering a question is already under oath. Yep. If three you can raise your right hand. Very good. I can't tell you how many people actually raise their left hand when I asked them to do that. Um, do you
swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give would be the truth? Yes. Yes, I do. So SW So sworn or affirmed? And if you could just state your full names again for the record. Deanna Stockton, Tristan Harrison with Clark Kaitton
Hints. Thank you. All right. So, thank you all. Go right ahead. Mr. Harrison, are you going to share your screen? I will. And thank you, Justin. That was a perfect uh introduction for what I'm about to share
tonight. So, can you see uh the PowerPoint screen? Yes. Is this part of the um ERRI that that is before us or is it um a
PowerPoint presentation? That's so this is a standalone uh PowerPoint presentation with uh excerpts from the ERRI document in why don't we why don't we mark that as exhibit um PB1
perfect okay okay so uh good evening everybody u my name is Tristan Harrison I'm a planner with Clark Kane Hints um happy to be here uh to give you a very brief 15inute or so overview of the environmental resource inventory update uh and then
open it up to some discussion and questions afterwards. So first uh again I'd like to thank the advisory committee uh which consisted of Deanna, Justin, Eningga and uh Jim. Um they were very helpful throughout this process. uh they helped
guide the scope when we first started. Um and we met several times during the project and got very helpful feedback on each uh version each uh draft and uh Eningga especially provided a lot of uh
local data related to open space and um critical species that was very helpful and it's information that our office would not have been able to provide ourselves. So just a quick uh a quick description uh what is an environmental resource
inventory or ERRI? Uh it's essentially a compendium of um data tables uh maps uh environmental uh information that is all collected in one place. I like to think of it as kind of like a little atlas for
a town um or as Justin has described a snapshot um of the of the physical environment and that includes both built and natural features. This document uh is uh prepared for the municipality and as we've said uh is
adopted as an appendix to the master plan and uh it'll support um local land use decisions and conservation efforts uh in the municipality. But it's important to note that this is not a policy document in itself. You will not
find any language resembling recommendations uh goals or strategies in this document. is really supposed to um provide information for implementation of the master plan and other appendices of the master
plan. So here's a quick overview of the scope of the update. So the 2025 uh ERRI update focused uh obviously on consolidation of the borrow and the township information. That 2010 ERRI
that was um prepared by the VRPC uh and um volunteers in both former municipalities uh really separated out information u between borrow and township. So we're combining that here. Everything's in one
table obviously in one map. Uh and we updated all that information um to current or as current as we could. Uh and some of those data sources have changed um for better or I mean all for
better. Um, we've we have some additional sources as well and where we could, we uh added in additional information that was not included in the 2010 ERI, but I will uh emphasize that this was primarily an update uh project.
Uh although there was some um flexibility in, you know, we added in things where we could and where it made sense. We also focused on streamlining the text and narrative sections of the ERRI uh with a focus on making it one
easy to navigate and use. Um so the organization may have changed a little bit uh in how the document is formatted and how the sections and subsections are organized. We also focused on uh minimizing redundancies where we could
both within the ERRI document itself as well as redundancies with other documents that the municipality has. um primarily the 2023 master plan, the municipality's climate action report and
also the climate uh change vulnerability assessment within the master plan as obviously we're going to talk about climate um within the environmental resource inventory and climate change and we also focused on um more of a local focus where the 2010
ERRI you know gave a lot of regional background around. Um we we really tried to tailor it how how can we um tailor the ERRI to be um locally focused? How is it going to most effectively inform
local decisions? And I'll also note that this contains a lot of the com or all of the components um for uh sustainable jersey credit for adoption of an ERRI. So I'm going to very quickly run
through section by section here. Um there's a lot to cover. It's it's over 150 page document. Um so I'm I'm just going to include a couple maps here and there and uh give you a quick synopsis of each section and the changes um that you will see in the updated ERRI. So in
the land use land cover section uh the main change obviously is that we're looking at 2020 land use land cover data. The D updates that data approximately every 5 years. Here we're looking at a map of the general land cover categories. And in the ERRI we also
break down those categories into the subcategories. So that's every type of wetlands that NJTP defines, every type of urban land, every type of forest. And we also uh provide a comparison with past land use land cover
data that DB has published starting with looking at two 2002 which was in the 2010 ERRI uh as well as um the 2020 or sorry 2015 land use land cover data and we're looking at acreage changes. Yeah,
I'm sorry to interrupt, but um uh if not tonight, at some point people may wonder at um you know, subdivisions beyond the downtown area or uptown area. Um uh wondering at their neighborhood being
designated urban. So could you speak a little bit to the um Sure. to that designation and how it's defined from a planning perspective at by the state and federal government? Sure. But that's a a very important point. Um, so urban land, uh, so I'll I'll emphasize that these
land use land cover categories, they're based on, uh, what's known as the Anderson land use classification system, and that's basically a hierarchy of land uses. So it starts off with these uh, six general categories. Urban land is basically uh developed land that
includes um both you know your downtown development as well as things like um developed active recreation spaces or single family dwellings and things like that. Thanks.
Sure. So moving on to the the section on topography and soils. um soils hasn't really soils data sorry hasn't really changed much um but we've uh remapped it and um we've updated the farmland
classification uh map here which is what you can see on the slide uh this is data from the USDA um as well as you know the soil data is from USDA as well um and this is basically showing you the different
classifications of farmland um uh value uh based on the unique environmental characteristics of those uh soils. And then on the left here we have the physioraphic regions. Um so Princeton is in the Piedmont uh plateau
right at the edge of it actually. Um and so this section, you know, includes a lot some information that's in the master plan such as steep slope mapping um as well as um a little discussion about radon uh and other
subtopics related to soils and um what you can see above the surface which is topography and slopes. Moving on into surface water resources. Uh here we're looking at a map of the watersheds and subwaterheds
uh of the Princeton area. And what we're looking at is um well so wersheds are basically defined by the USGS as uh hucks or HU's uh which stands for
hydraologic uh unit codes. And so you can see this uh thick blue line separating the uh the larger watershed which is the the Milstone River wershed and then within it you can see the subwaterheds that are colorcoded. Um
those are uh lower in the hierarchy of wersheds and actually since 2010 there have been uh additional subwaterheds added. uh this darker purple around Princeton uh did not exist at the last time uh at the at the last erri um in
2010. And basically these uh these subwaterershed areas, these huck 14s, they're called huck 14s because it's a code that has 14 digits in them. Uh because it's lower, it's it's more specific.
And uh this is essentially how water quality is uh regulated or um or um how different wershed areas are defined by NJP. We're still in surface water
resources here. Um main point here is that the wetlands data set is based on the 2020 land use land cover. Um so that was updated here. Uh and we're also looking at the different uh categories of streams which relates to water
quality and also um stream corridor protection. So it's category 1 and category 2 streams still in surface water resources here. Um, we included uh the updated uh FEMA flood mapping which they're based
on the 2017 effective uh flood insurance rates maps or firms. Initially we had intention of including uh inland flood mapping. Uh but uh as you know Princeton has much more stringent uh uh flood regulations
regarding inland flooding than the state. So that mapping data was not readily available. So, it's it's not included uh in the in the ERI, but we describe generally um what the inland flood rule uh means for Princeton uh and the state and how that relates to
development as kind of a a side narrative within the RRI. And then we've also updated the flood history uh narrative to describe the uh major flood events that have occurred uh in Princeton's history and recent history.
So here we have uh a map from the surface water quality section and what we're looking at here is um the the point data shows different water quality monitoring stations that's through uh
NJTP's programs. Uh, AMNET monitors um um biological resources. So, indicator species um like um certain kind of water bugs essentially um that indicate uh water
quality. And then we also again we have our two different types of um streams, category 1, category 2. And those correspond to different types of riparian zones that the uh state regulates. So 300 ft riparian zone
buffers for category 1 streams. So that would be Stony Brook here in purple as well as 150 ft riparian zones for non-category 1 streams which would be essentially everything else. So now we're moving on into the
groundwater um section. So this map shows groundwater recharge recharge potential and this map uh was included in the Princeton master plan but we've made some uh key changes to it uh that
uh you can see we show the uh disturbed soils which is essentially your downtown or your most developed uh portion of the municipality in pink. And um this whole section on groundwater, we
we made a lot of connections to the master plan. There's there's some information that is included in both such as the groundwater recharge as well as wellhead protection areas, but we also look at um aquafer and bedrock geology and what that means for things
like water filtration and how this impacts imperous coverage uh in the municipality and how that is regulated or managed. Moving on into biological resources. So here we're again looking at the 2020 land use land cover data, but this is
like I was saying before uh a more uh specific breakdown within each of those categories. So um we got coniferous forest and darkest green. We've got a little bit lighter mixed forest. We've got deciduous forest and the like. and
wetlands in blue. We have the different types of wetlands and these even these categories you can get even more specific. Uh we grouped them uh in a way that was logical so as to not have uh you know 50 colors on a map that it
becomes a little bit tedious to read. Here we're looking at species based habitat. So this is from the D's landscape project data u version 3.3 and uh it also includes uh the um verified
and potential vernal habitat that the state has mapped in red there and the different categories of species based habitat include riparian zones or sorry riparian corridors, core forest uh that is greater than 10 hectares and
grassland areas that are greater than 18 hectare. layers and these are defined uh in the landscape project. Um so we didn't we didn't you know we didn't make these categories up. We didn't choose uh that specific type uh or that specific
threshold for what core forest means. Um so if you're interested there are links to the landscape project but we've done our best to describe that in a way that's easy to understand and use within the ERRI. May I ask a quick question here? Sure. I
feel like along the ridge especially um but maybe in other maybe in the southwest also um there might very well be additional I very much suspect there would be additional potential vernal habitat if not verified vernal habitat.
And I wonder if there is a a provision in the landscape project for [Music] um uh local organizations, school groups, um you know, nonprofits like the
Watershed Institute, etc. with using um science-based criteria, of course, but with volunteer labor if if it's if it's possible to over time continue to update this map with potential vernal
habitat because um I think it could be really helpful as we continue to um preserve open space that has particular uh environmental resource
value and so I'll stop there and ask if if you know whether there is a way that we locally can contribute to that data set. Yeah, that that's a great point and um the short answer is I'm not sure how
um you would go about at a local level determining this. I would preface all of the data in this ERRI that is provided by the state um or or other sources. Um a lot of it is derived from geospatial data. This landscape project
specifically um I know that verified vernal habitat um points or the areas where they have a radius they they set a radius from a point that they've inspected. All of the potential fernal habitat I believe was
derived from the uh I believe it was a partnership um with the Ruckers uh geospatial uh group. Um, and I'm sure that there are procedures to um do a more local uh field study of what
potential fernal habitat exists in the municipality cuz this is, you know, on this map, potential fernal habitat, that is basically the phrase from the landscape project that doesn't encompass all literal potential fernal habitat.
And that's a great point that you bring up. Yeah. If that answers your question. Thank you. It sure. Yeah. Yeah. And and now that we have, you know, people um specifically Ingga sort of bird dogging all of this stuff, you know, maybe we have an opportunity
to Yeah. Again, over time, you know, continue to update it for the next RRI. Um Mr. Taylor, you had a question. Yeah. May I just add to your comment, Louise? Madam Chairman, I I think you're right on. If we all remember the private
sector debate over what to do about the ridge, first of all, there was a major community interest, neighborhood interest, a large number of people who were keenly interested and did research. Secondly, there was active involvement
from Princeton University. Apparently, a professor had devoted considerable time to these kinds of issues over the years. And then finally to the issue of vernal as well as trees. There was a lengthy and I thought
very professional discussion by the applicants. So the information is out there or at least more information is out there and I think madame chairman has identified something that that would
be well received by a large group of people in the area. Yeah. Thanks for that. I part of the reason I brought it up is that later on in the ERRI where we're talking about specific um uh plant and animal species
and birds um the uh some of that data was collected and reported by um uh citizens, residents of Princeton who have a very keen interest and you know whose names were um who were given a shout out in the ERRA which I thought
was great and uh I just thought that you know maybe a kind of a similar effort if not necessarily attribution might um yeah at some point in the future be helpful here too. Yeah, thank you. Those are all very
great points. Uh, and I would even throw out there that, you know, this ERRI, um, because we're using data that's readily available to us for the most part, um, it could be viewed as a starting point and anything that the municipality wants to pursue as updating
more specifically um, could always be even an appendix to the this ERRI or as part of an ERRI update. So, great point. It's a snapshot and it's a snapshot living document as you said from the start. Okay, moving on. Don't mean to
hold things out. No, no, thank you. U, here we're still looking at landscape project uh data, but this is the landscape project habitat ranks. So, this should look familiar. It is also in the master plan. Uh, but the main difference here is that um at Eningga's
suggestion, we've added the freshwater muscle habitat um along Stonybrook. Right. And here we have the conservation blueprint data again also in the master plan. Uh and in purple here you can see um
the uh areas that have been uh ranked by a consortium including Rowan University uh and some other groups um based on different environmental factors and ecological factors as uh essentially target areas um if the municipality were
to um conserve additional land and get the the greatest bang for their buck on preserving um the most valuable ecological land. And Tristan, if I can just add something before you move on, this map uh where it says preserved open
space, it's actually a combination of uh open space that's been preserved by the state, the county, the municipality, uh nonprofits or private groups, and other uh public entities, uh which you'll see on the next map. They'll just be in five different colors. Here they're in one
color. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, we were trying to keep this map relatively simple with a focus on the um the the ecological conservation blueprint data. Um but you know, there's possibility of showing them both at the same time uh which
would also have its own Yeah, that's great for when you're looking to connect, you know, create connections between and corridors u between preserved spaces. Um uh Mr. Cohen. Yeah. And I I just wanted to mention
there's one um key space that's been preserved that isn't shown on the map, which is the 90 acre Landwind property up on Harrington Road. So, this is not um absolutely up to date. Uh there's another piece that council has always
approve already approved acquisition of. it's still in the process of being closed upon which is the um Shaktel property which is down along um Cherry Valley Road. And I raise it, you know, partly to make the point
um that these are moving targets. We we're talking about this as a living document, but um I want to make sure that this this board um you know expresses some
uh intention to update um quickly uh certain of the data sets, this being one. Uh there's also the multif family dwellings
um uh data data that is um changing rapidly as uh round three properties come online and will change further as round four properties come online. And the last thing I wanted to mention is
the um the surface water quality information which the municipality is has already entered into an agreement with one water to um do a regional watershed improvement
plan. And the first step in their research is to update sampling of uh all of the you know the waters uh within the within the region. So we should have new, you know, right now I think the
TMDLs are like 20 year old data and there will be new data available, professionally generated new data available and I want to make sure all of those get into the ERRI um as soon as they're available.
So just uh wanted to plant that seed. Great. Thank you. Agreed. Yeah. All great points. I like that you said moving target because these are all moving targets. I mean, for for a good reason, you know, it means you're preserving more land.
That's a great thing. Um I will say that the um preserved open space data that we're showing here is already an update to the 2023 master plan. Uh but even still, um you know, additional land, uh is being preserved. So, it's great. And
both of the properties David named overlap with purple areas, which is Okay, even better. Yeah. Yeah. So, here we have uh the uh uh slightly updated open space uh map from the 2023
master plan. Uh and obviously there may be additional updates uh in the near future. We have the breakdown of uh state, county, municipal, nonprofit, and uh other public uh groups and the different paths throughout the municipality. So now we're moving into
uh built environment. Um actually we are still in built environment with the parks. Um this is just one of the maps in that section. This is the known contaminated sites uh list. uh and this shows different uh sites based on the different phases uh of remediation
uh from the DP's non-contaminated sites list data set and uh there's a table corresponding with this and a description of uh precisely uh what the what uh what each of these sites means
and there are a bunch of other maps in the built environment section. A lot of them will be very similar to the uh master plan. So, transportation, historic preservation or historic districts rather, um sewer service area and things like
that. So, air quality is a new section we've added. Um it's uh primarily because it's included in the things that sustainable Jersey uh wants to see in an ERRI. Um this is kind of a real general section. Uh it's got a real region
focus. uh we we define the air quality index uh and a lot of you probably know what what it is and you've used it. It's typically uh uh part of like a a weather report. You know what is the air quality outside today. Um so we've done a little
bit of a description on what that actually means and how air quality is monitored in the state in the region at different ambient stations or weather stations essentially. And then we've linked to uh NJP uh permitted u facility
data um related to any kind of um permit for um air quality impact. But I'll note that we did not specifically map those or uh inventory those. Uh again, it's a it's really rapidly moving target um and we didn't
really want to bog down the plan with that level of detail um for this. It's really permit focused. Now, we're looking at climate. So, we pulled this out of the um physiography section from the 2010 plan
because we we thought it or 2010 erri because we thought it deserved its own section. Um on the left you can see the New Jersey climate zones as defined by the office of the state climatologist. They generally correspond with the the different provinces of New
Jersey. of the Piedmont, the Atlantic coastal plane. Um, and then on the right we have the plant hardiness zones which that map was just updated by the USDA in 2023 as the northeast becomes warmer and wetter. And uh, so this whole climate
section um, you know, we've we've tried to give it a primarily regional focus because climate is regional. And then we also discuss climate change. Uh how could we not? Um so we have a really brief section on
climate change uh with reference to the uh climate action plan that the municipality has as another appendix of the master plan. Um and these two graphs uh I'm sure you've seen them. They're from the New Jersey report scientific report on climate change uh showing the
upward trend uh in the municipality of warmer and wetter um climate. And then lastly, uh just a quick uh update on the appendices. Um a lot of this came from Ingga. It was a very great help. Um uh like we've said
tonight, a lot of very specific um species inventories and sightings and um reports um from volunteers and others in the municipality. And with that um that's all I have. Uh thank you for letting me
run through that and I'm happy to take uh any additional questions or any kind of discussion and uh David Cohen has his hand up. David. Yeah, just uh a couple slides back about the climate change uh structure.
One of the things, you know, that I talk a lot about with our residents is the increasing frequency of the um extreme weather events and you do mention it in your narrative, but I'm wondering if there could be uh you know
a graph uh because certainly the reading that I've done has indicated that that's something that has increased much more dramatically than for example temp average temperatures. you know, these
uh or or the annual precipitation. You know, these graphs in a way, especially the one on the right, um sort of downplay the uh
dramatic current impacts of climate change. And I think that another chart that could that could address that question of extreme storm events, which by the way are the ones that really impact our residents both with the flash
flooding and the need for improved storm water management. Um I would love to if there if we could include a graph like that in this uh document as well, I would really appreciate it. That's a really that's a great
suggestion. I Totally agree with that. And it can, you know, it can be regional just like these are regional. It doesn't have to be princific, but yeah, thank you. That's a really good suggestion. Yeah. I I would just kind of
like to get into procedure for a second. Um I think, and Jerry, correct me if I'm wrong, if we did want to make any substantial changes like that, uh we would probably need to renotice, um and hold another hearing. Um, not to say we can't do that. Um, but Jerry, does that
sound and my lights are off. Good for climate change. Um, does that sound correct for something like this? Yeah, it has to be substantial though. Um, and that has to be evaluated in terms of the document as a whole. I think what David was suggesting, I don't think that would nec
necessitate another hearing. Right. As I said, the narrative already addresses the increase in the extreme events and just having a graph that represented that observation. I don't I don't see that as a as a significant
change. Okay. Well, and then, you know, sorry to have to be like this, but um and sorry that the lights are still off. Um but uh then just the other issue that we might have if you do recommend require that to be part of this approval. Um I don't know what the
funding looks like right now for this project. Um but we we would need to consider that as well. Okay. Um Owen O'Donnell that kind of leads into my question which is uh what would be the process
for updating information in this erri you know that as David said changes so rapidly uh you know and who's who would bear the responsibility for that um I will somewhat defer to Tristan or
our engineering staff here. My understanding of the ERRI is it's really a product of the environmental commission. Uh we've just taken it a step further by also adopting it into the master plan. Okay.
So, you know, I don't know if the board can necessarily, you know, make substantial changes without consulting the environmental commission or I or put a different way, I think the environmental commission might be the one kind of driving the bus on this. Um so you know
if Deanna or Tristan you have additional thoughts you know please let us know. Yeah. Um thanks Justin. So the ERRI actually came out of um infrastructure and operations rather than the uh
environmental commission at this time. Unlike the uh 2010 document, we did work with the environmental um commission and they did review the document before it came to the planning
board. Uh, so I think we would probably redirect the question to council as to um how often they would like to see the document updated and and I'm sure they would be looking for a recommendation
from staff. Okay. And in terms of who would be doing the updating, um my sense is that we would probably work with clerk hatton and hints again to make those changes. Certainly one one way of doing it in
terms of process is as some time passes and it looks like it's really appropriate to update the data to do it by memo or so rather than every year having a master plan hearing updating the ERRI and then collectively
at the end of a certain period of time gather all those documents which are documenting what changes should be made putting it into a a master plan amendment of the ERRI. That's at least one way of approaching it.
Yeah, that sounds like a that sounds like a good approach. Um, I I think I mean my understanding of what we've talked about uh tweaking tonight, adding the graph uh of the uh frequency of extreme storm
events and um updating the open space map to show the two parcels that are purchased. um or maybe well to show the two parcels since one is in process and the other is already acquired.
Um and I guess the third map being the one that shows um uh that that relates to housing. you know, I I I would hope that budget permitting those could be incorporated into this in in short order while, you
know, before this project is completely closed out. Um, but I also recognize that that might not be possible under budget constraints and that if we make a recommendation for that, it should acknowledge um within within the scope
and and with a an understanding of budget constraints. But um David, could I could I ask a question? When you talk about the graph and extreme weather events, is that just storms or it's any extreme event like
extreme heat, etc. It's it's storms. Storms. Okay. I mean, the way I've seen it, typically it's storms. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. There rain. Yeah. Yeah. And I would just say, you know, in terms of the cost, I mean, I can't speak for council, but we
all the time modify contracts and do change orders to contracts. Um, and I would think uh, you know, I would at least like to to have Clark hatton, you know, give us a a budget to make these
um what seemed to me to be relatively minor changes. And um you know if it doesn't fit within the existing budget, you know, just bring it to council. Yeah. Um Justin Leco. Uh yes. I just
wanted to comment on the um the two properties that we were talking about. Um of course we should put the Lanwin Herrentown one uh within this, you know, make those changes. Uh that was really just a matter of it. I mean this board
knows. Um it was only a couple months ago uh that they're finally uh you know it finally changed hands to the municipality. Um I would hesitate to do the same with the Shectel property at this time uh just because it's not ours.
Um it's not technically preserved. Uh so that would be my advice. Yeah, understood. Um Freddy, I saw your hand go up. Did you have something you want to say? No, I didn't. I was but I would have just said exactly what Justin said,
which is that until it's actually the owns it, but no, I didn't have anything else to add. Yeah, point taken. Um, I have a a quick point which we may not may not be able to pull up this particular map. I noticed in looking through the ERRI that on pages 23 and 24
of the PDF, I don't know whether those pages are numbered in the in a printed document, but it shows geologic zones. Um, Payic Formation, Loaton Formation I think are two. And the third one
is labeled Brunswick Aquifer. But um actually poseic formation is not on there. Instead of Paic formation which is the language that's the the geologic
zone that's described on the previous page in the text what is Payic formation zone is is labeled Brunswick aquifer which may also be correct but it
doesn't jive with what the text says and it's a different type of classification than the other two zones that are shown on the map. So, I just wanted to flag that in case it was inadvertent. Uh, not to
um Yeah, not for any other reason. And if there's a if there's a reason why that was labeled that way, you know, I have no Yeah, I can revisit that. And if it's a nonsubstantial correction, if it was an
error, we'll we'll fix that right up. Okay. Thank you. Again, it's Brunswick aquifer and I think should be P called Payic formation, but um you take a look and yeah, we'll do figure it out.
Thank you. Um any other uh questions or comments before I invite members of the public to weigh in? Okay, we have two members uh two
attendees in the um attendees room if you will. Um if either of you wishes to um speak uh about this and address the board uh for up to three minutes, now is your opportunity to do that. if you could virtually raise your hand um using
one of the um icons at the bottom of your screen, the raise hand icon. Uh now's the time to do that. I am not seeing either individual raise their hand. So with that, um uh thanks for
sitting in. I hope it's been interesting. I will close the public comment portion of the meeting and ask for any final thoughts or comments. [Music] Um, and if there are none, then maybe someone would like to move that we
uh adopt this into the master plan with uh advice slash suggestion slash request to update in the dimminimous or at least relatively minor
ways that we've discussed. And I just I'm happy to move that we adopt it. And I wanted to clarify that the data set for the housing was a chart, not a not a uh not a map. Okay.
All right. Obviously did not look at that section as close to you. You got me. All right. David has moved uh the ERRI moved adoption of ERRI. U
Mr. O'Donnell seconded. Um, Carrie, would you call the role, please? Um, Miss Na, when did you join the meeting? I missed your arrival time. Hey, Carrie. I joined uh about 7:15.
Okay. I will not be including you. I'm sorry. Okay. Okay. So, that would be Mr. Bodakimer. Yes. Miss Capazolei. Yes. Mr. Cohen. Yes.
Mayor Freda. Yes. Mr. McGawan. Yes. Mr. O'Donnell. Yes. Miss. Pearl Mutter. Yes. Mr. Taylor. Yes. Mrs. Wilson. Yes.
Motion carried. Good. Thank you everyone. Um, I think as of right now, if I'm not mistaken, we don't have any agenda items for the first May
meeting. Um, is is that still correct or I'm not suggesting that we necessarily need to cancel it right now, but it might very well um be cancelled. I have nothing scheduled at this time.
Okay. Okay. Well, do we want mention? I'm highly in favor of cancing it because there's a dinner honoring Deanna that night. Oh, and we're not all invited. Uh, and I think that's great. That's
great to know. Congratulations, Deanna, for whatever. Can you share a little more information, Councilman Cohen? I mean, not not the time and place. I'm not talking about crashing the party. I'm interested in in the recognition
part of the story. Of course. Yeah. Correct me if I'm if I get it a little bit wrong. You know, I think it's the American Society of Civil Engineers, New Jersey chapter honoring Deanna for public service. Yes. Are you getting the
service to the people award, Deanna? I think that's basically it. Yes. Fantastic. Service. It is the service to the people award. That is my favorite one. Oh, that's great. Congratulations. Thank you. It's much appreciated to be
recognized. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. Okay. Well, um then you the board, I guess, can expect to get a formal notice of cancellation as soon as it is formal. And um we'll hold off on I think at this point we might also not
have anything for the second May meeting, but we have the housing plan coming up in June. Um so that'll be really interesting and um meeting worthy for uh probably two two full meetings.
Um so with that um Mr. Cohen move that we adjourn. Second. All in favor? I. Thank you everybody. Have a have a
wonderful weekend. Um enjoy which whichever holidays you may celebrate going on right now. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks everybody. Good night. Have a good night everyone. Good night. Bye.