##VIDEO ID:https://vimeo.com/1012069867## Hi, good evening and welcome to the December 10th, 2024 regular meeting of the D 60 Board of Education. I would like to call the meeting to order. The time is six o'clock. Ms. Patron, will you please call the role Mr. Cisneros? Here, judge Mays Here. This is here. Mr. Tibo here. If everyone would please rise and say the Pledge of Allegiance with me. Okay. We're on. I lost you. I said are we on now? I'm sorry. Are we on now? Yes. Okay. Yeah, There's gonna be delay on your side. Remember that. It, it's, uh, a little bit sometimes Delayed. Okay. I, I'm on now. They can't see me, but I could see them, right? Correct. Okay. Bye. All right. Before I'll go on to corrections and modifications to the agenda. Before we adopt the agenda, does Superintendent Kimsey or a board member have any recommendations or corrections or modifications to the agenda at this time? Alright, scene none. We will move to 3.0 adoption of the agenda. May I have a motion, please? So moved. May I have a second? Second. It has been moved in seconded to approve the agenda for the December 10th, 2024 regular meeting of the D 60 Board of Education as presented in the board materials. Is there any debate? See none. Please call the vote, Ms. Patron. Mr. Cisneros? Aye. Dr. De Niro? Aye. Judge Mays Aye. Mrs. Pen? Aye. Mr. Tebow? Aye. With that we'll move on to public comments. Mr. Sprouse, are there any recorded comments this evening from the public? Thank you Madam President. We did receive two recorded public comments. I'd like to play those for you now. Ask Grace to queue those up. Thank you. Hi, this is Justina Carter, justina.Carter@pueblodsixty.org. I'm calling again with serious concerns about the non-legal name change policy. Parents of queer kids want them to be treated with respect and want them to be safe. We worry about that a lot. HB 24, 10 39 also wants students to be treated with respect and to be safe. I wonder if your a CA policy and procedure is deliberately trying to prevent trans kids from asking for a name change, like a real attempt to not acknowledge them. This seems opposite of what the law intended. How will we make sure that kids know that? Yes, we will address them as they've asked, and we will either notify their parents or report them to social services. As far as I can tell, these are the two options that a CAR procedures result in. And if it goes to social services, then the parents will probably be notified about the name change anyway. So, are teachers going to be reprimanded when they don't go along with this bad policy? No one wants to be the one to out a kid who trusted us enough to share their name, not teachers and not principals. We just want to support our students. I really think that you as a board should go back to the a CA policy that you started with and look at ways to change it following moral language that follows the law with no additional obstacles for our kids or our families. Hi, my name is Shauna Bajo. My son goes to Bradford Elementary. I'm requesting parents to be able to go into the classroom the last 30 minutes of the day for their kids' birthday party and be able to watch them open their gifts and have cupcakes in the class. I don't see what's wrong with it. I'm requesting that kids can do this and parents can be there for their kids. Um, my email is P-O-N-F-I-L-O-S-V-A-L-L ej o s@gmail.com. Thank you. This evening, we have two citizens who have signed up to share a public comment. At this time, the board invites Alyssa Lu to the microphone where she will be discussing student safety. Good evening and welcome to you. As a reminder, you'll have three minutes to speak in front of you is there is a box with three lights. When the light turns green, your time will begin. When the light turns yellow, you will have one minute remaining and when the light turns red, your time is up. Thank you for being here this evening. Good evening. Last month I was here and I had a lot to say, but one thing I specifically mentioned was regarding the safety issues I've had at several different schools with four different children as expected, the first semi-annual incident has occurred with one of my children. What I didn't expect was for it to happen less than one week after I spoke at the last meeting, less than 25% of the incidents I've had are about students and the rest are about faculty. Most recently, it was another faculty incident. At some point along the line, it was no longer a coincidence, but rather, a pattern of misconduct by district employees. The misconduct has ranged from lack of supervision, verbal abuse, bullying, title IX violations, and reckless assault. Clearly, some change or restructuring of the hiring and training process needs to occur for this to stop after 12 years. Again, I will reiterate that the chances of it always happening to just my children are slim to none. I just happen to be the one speaking out. I will add that after speaking with Dr. Kimsey, I am cautiously optimistic that there will be changes coming and I sincerely hope that the board will give their full support in allowing these changes. The last thing I would like to say today is that one of my children sustained a moderate injury that may require surgical intervention due to lack of maintenance of school grounds. I notified someone within the district regarding the injury on November 15th. The district has been on notice for one month, and I have yet to see the repairs out forbid, no precautionary measures have been taken nor temporary repairs. Considering the district is liable for any further injuries, I'm disappointed that no action has been taken, but I'm not surprised. Thank you, Ms. Fuentes. I At this time, the board invites Mr. David Fuentes to the microphone. Good evening and welcome to you, sir. Thank you board members for hearing me out today. I spoke last month about accountability and I state to hear the rest of the meeting. I left and discuss after an hour of the debate of the policy for transgender students. My discuss wasn't about the topic or the debate. My discuss was on how people were looking at the debate. The state has passed a law on how transgender transgender students should be treated. We need to be in compliance of the law, whether we are for or against it. I see both, both sides of the issue. But as a board, it is your job is to be in compliance with the law. It is not your pockets. The money will come from when the lawsuit is settled. And trust me, it will be settled for going against the law that has been placed. I may not be a fan of all parts of the law, and you may not either, but at this point it does not matter. We just need to get it done. I must also say how disappointing it is that you still do not allow comments on Facebook. The school board is relying for the community to get tired at, at topics to die out. But I'll be here every meeting and hopefully others will be too, to share our opinions. Thank you for listening. Thank you Mr. Puentes. We'll now move on to 4.0 Gifts to Schools. Superintendent Kimsey. Do we have any gifts to schools this evening? Yes. President Pen Nuncio. We do, um, we are asking that the Board of Education graciously accept the following gifts to schools, uh, as presented in your board materials. And we are very thankful to all of these entities for, uh, supporting our district and our students. The first is from Kimberly Brickman, who donated $500 to the Nets Freed K eight Expeditionary School Garden Project. Kona Ice of East El Paso County donated $162 and 8 cents to Nets. Freed Centennial Foundation donated $500 to the Centennial High School marching band and Color Guard. Centennial Foundation also donated $500 to the Centennial High School Speech and Debate Club. The Kaiser Foundation donated $5,000 to the 2024 Pueblo School, district 60 Pride and Patriotism Event Family Care Specialists donated $245 to Centennial High School's Health Academy. Duran Wrestling Club donated a thousand dollars to the Centennial High School Wrestling Program. Norm's Quality Construction donated $500 to the East High School Band Program. And finally, Phyllis and Dawn Stevens donated $250 to the East High School Band Program. And again, the board is asked to graciously accept these gifts. Thank you, Dr. Kimsey. May I have a motion please? Director De Niro. I move that the Board of Education approves and graciously accepts the gifts to schools as presented in the December 10th, 2024 board materials. Is there a second? Second. Is there any discussion? Please call the vote. Ms. Patron. Mr. Cisneros? Aye. Dr. De Niro? Aye. Judge Mays Aye. Mr. Cio? Aye. Mr. Tebo? Aye. We're on to 7.0 communication and board comments. Does Superintendent Kimsey or board member have any communications or comments this evening? Director Tebow. Thank you. Um, just a few short comments. First of all, um, I wanted the board to know as well as our board secretary, the school district's attorney, and, um, our superintendent that, um, on your, um, desk is a, um, a very small craft holiday craft that was put together, uh, over the weekend when I attended the, um, CASB conference, uh, in, in Colorado Springs. Um, as we all know, that was held at the Broadmoor, uh, hotel. And at the end of the conference, as I was getting ready to leave, uh, I was being picked up by, uh, members of my family and we were invited to go to a, um, bakery arts and craft, uh, seminar. And so we were able to, um, actually bake cookies and ice them and make, uh, certain arts and crafts for holiday spirit. So, um, I had my family make each of you something and I just left it with you, uh, hoping that, um, you'll have a, a great holiday season. So that's, that's why it's there. Um, I also wanted to let the citizens who commented tonight know that the board definitely appreciates all your comments, whether you're in person or online. And I wanted also, as I usually do, give a shout out to our communications department, Dalton Sprouts and his team, for keeping the board up to date. Especially me, I don't really, um, read the Pueblo chief and I don't receive it. Uh, some of the news that I receive is quite limited in terms of local news, so I appreciate that. Also, just to remind the board that December 5th marked one year that, um, many of us have served on the board. I think there are four of us who started our tenure last December. And during that time, um, I counted at least three dozen special and regular meetings that we've, that we've had and we attended and dealt with, uh, very important matters such as picking a new superintendent, developing various policies, as well as adopting a budget and fiscal matters associated with that. So it's been a very busy year, and I just want to extend my appreciation to our administrative team, uh, our teachers, staff, students, uh, to the many volunteers and to all concerned for their dedicated service to public education and wish everyone a happy holiday season. Thank you. Thank you. Director Tebow. Other comments from the board? Alright, next on the agenda is 9.0 reports. Superintendent Kimsey. Do we have any reports this evening? Yes, we do. Um, our first report this evening, uh, actually it will be a Pueblo Urban Renewal Authority Update. Mr. Pacheco, uh, will be providing that to the board. Good evening, Madam President, Madam Superintendent, members of the board, uh, thank for thank you to for having me this evening. I wanted to provide a little bit of an update and, uh, have a quick dialogue of some opportunities to continue our partnership and trying to both improve our community and maximize the public investments we have. Uh, you're probably aware that the Urban Renewal Authority approved its 2025 budget. In that budget, there were two allocations of, of funds that directly, um, benefit the school district. One with respect to, uh, continued support of the improvements at Dutch Clark Stadium, there was a general fund allocation of 200,000 to that effort. And then there's also funding for, I'm trying to remember the second one. I just lost it off the top of my head. Um, central Turf. I don't know why it is been a long, it's been a very long day. As, as board member Dero, uh, could attest. Um, that said, in, in our work, in, in these neighborhoods, uh, we want to provide our, our, our professional resources to, to benefit the school district when possible. And what I'm talking about are activities we've done for RAC school and potentially for, for Carlisle Elementary School. We did perform an as assess a site assessment on a redevelopment strategy for str. Unfortunately, um, the return on investment to try to convert that particular building as it sits now, um, is not, it doesn't pencil out. It's not cost effective. So we've tabled, um, that effort that was $128,000 thorough assessment, and we have those documents available at some point, I think we'd wanna circle back and look at some potential redevelopment strategies for that school. We just created a urban renewal district that encompasses primarily Northern Avenue in the historic heart of Bessemer. Um, and that's taking a lot of our focus and a lot of our attention on that particular side of town to try to to, to address the issues on Northern Avenue. But looking for, looking at Carlisle Elementary School, we've been approached by some developers, and I understand that there's a, the district has received an offer, at least one offer from a perspective developer. And I, I wanted to come, uh, before you this evening to extend, uh, an offer for us to partner and assist you with developing the that, uh, or identifying that redevelopment strategy perhaps with this, uh, proposed developer. And we've watched what's happened with Keating Middle School or the Keating Junior High School, and it appears that that particular developer has run into some obstacles navigating both the local development review process development entitlement process, plus also some financial and environmental issues with that building. That being said, it's been several years since the transaction you entered into with that particular group, and today, really not a whole lot has happened. And from urban Renewals perspective, um, we don't want to see that happen again for yet another school. I think for the, for the betterment of our community, I think we should, um, potentially look at, uh, facilitating a, a way to ensure implementation, both on the incentive side and the, um, community planning side. And what I mean by that is all the school properties in the city, by and large, are zoned for governmental use. It's a, the city zone classification of S one. Okay. So if you're developing a residential neighborhood in town, it's typically a residential, residential one. Residential two, it's multifamily, it's a residential five, it's it's business district like downtown. It's a business four district. So whoever acquires a a school site from you has to go through a rezoning process, a subdivision process, a development review process through the city. And there's no guarantee that their concept would be approved by the city's planning and zoning commission and the city council. And so if we could facilitate a developer going through that system and per, per, perhaps, jointly and a joint venture or through some other, um, arrangement, I think it can help streamline the process and make it a, a much more practical way to get through the system. Also, the authority, uh, is, has undertaken a workforce housing program. We just built, uh, two duplexes in the heart of the lower East side, the 600 block of East second Street. So if you're familiar with the lower East side, right in the middle, and there are surplus grounds around the current school, Carlisle sits on an entire city block. There may be some opportunities to entertain multiple developers or have the authority, you know, work with good urban planners, architects to come up with a development strategy that's compatible within the neighborhood, work with the neighborhood, um, that pencils out, but also preserves the historic building. So in other words, you know, kind of how it's been going is you offer a surplus property for, for sale, someone buys it, but there's really not a whole lot they get from an entitlement perspective. They still have to go through that speculative process of trying to obtain zoning permits, zoning authorization. And that takes time, that takes money. And if for some reason the neighborhood opposes it, um, the developer could be out quite a bit of money, um, on, you know, preparing their plans and things like that. So we just want to, uh, extend our offer to, however, whichever way that you decide to dispose of that property, we can play different parts in that, but we want to ensure that you get a, a sufficient return on the public's investment. These are assets of the district. The, the taxes that are dedicated to our school district, built that school, maintained that school. Um, certainly you should get a positive return on the investment. And for us, we wanna ensure that, you know, it, whatever happens to that property is not detrimental within the greater part of that neighborhood. So that's why I'm kind of here today, um, just in the spirit of, of local government cooperation. Thank you Mr. Pacheco. Do we have questions from board members? Director De Niro? Thank you. Um, Mr. Pacheco, thank you for your time this evening. Um, is that, is the Carlisle property in any zone? Uh, It's, it's not in a current urban renewal district, no, but I think urban renewal would be a useful tool to address those issues of It. Whatever happens there. If you build on, on the, the perimeter grounds where there's grass and parking lots and things like that, you're gonna have to provide city level infrastructure. If you're gonna put any appreciable commercial development, multi-family development, single family residential development, whatever's there, you're gonna have to extend the water, the sanitary sewer, the roads, electric power, storm water detention, all those things are, are, are quite expensive and extensive. And so for somebody going in and trying to develop a piece of property like that, it's a very, there there's a high level of risk that if there's a hiccup in that process of getting through the city's approvals, getting through all that, it may not net you the best return on your investment. And so, um, obviously the school district doesn't do real estate development every single day, you know, like kinda we, we somehow do. But, um, I, I guess if, if the board is interested in us to revisit those memorandums of understanding and maybe provide direction to the authority of this is the school district's expected return on its investment to turn it over to private sector and for the urban renewal authority to figure out a way to get that return of investment on your behalf. In other words, we would work with the developer and get them through that process, work through those zoning issues, neighborhood compatibility issues, and whatever the financial return on an investment for the, the district may ensure that that, that, that comes to light. You know, because your price is gonna be beaten down by all those unknowns. You don't have land use entitlement, you don't have city zoning to put residential there or commercial there or office there. Right now it's zoned for a school. And so we don't want to, uh, we wanna remove obstacles to development. The city's system can be very cumbersome, very unpredictable, and very frustrating. Thank you. I, I have, I think two questions for, um, either a superintendent or Mr. Bump. Uh, do we have a current active MOU with, um, Pira? If we don't, is that something that, how, how can we, the board move forward with renewing that? We do have a collaboration agreement, MOU that I think lasted for two years, which has not yet expired in my, uh, memory. We have approached to Pira about ways we can collaborate on this site, Carlisle in the past, and, um, would continue, would be willing to do that. Are there any constraints on the deed of Carlisle? As with many properties that school districts own? Uh, historically there are some restrictions on the deed. Yes. And is that something that Pira could work with on that at all? No, with the developer, The restrictions on the deed that the school district got are subject to the original grantor. The district itself has placed restrictions on its surplus property to assure that the development is compatible in the future. And that would be something that the district could modify that has not been seen as an impediment to the sale of our properties yet. It's more the underlying historical deeds that have, uh, restrictions that are difficult to remove. Is this gonna be, is this something that has an underlying, uh, restriction that's gonna be difficult? Uh, we have an, we've had a, an expression of interest notwithstanding that, uh, those conditions. And as with any sale of the property, part of the, uh, process is due diligence by the potential buyer where they get a title commitment and can review the title and any encroachments and things like that if they wanna get a survey. So that's kind of a standard procedure. So I said two questions, but I, you've, you've piqued my interest now. So how do we get in involved with Pira with this property? Now? I was wondering the same thing and, uh, 'cause I think we've had this conversation in April of 2023 when we did the collaboration. I mean, I don't know whether or not there's a proposal to say, do an urban renewal area in the Carlisle block, or What I would, what I would propose is, uh, I think you have one proposal for acquisition, uh, without stepping on your toes. What I would propose is that we just have the discussion with the, that party, see what their development plans are, and if their development plans are primarily focused on the main existing school building and the outlying buildings itself, and they don't have a firm redevelopment strategy for the, what I would call the perimeter areas, the areas that could be new development, that maybe the authority partners and maybe the authority as part of the transaction acquires those and finds a suitable developer, you know, to go through that zoning process, entitlement process to maximize, uh, you know, their, their urban infill of those, what I would be concerned about is, okay, the, someone wants to buy it, they have a user for the main, maybe the existing building, maybe the gymnasium or whatnot, but you still have quite a bit of property around it that's underutilized. And we're trying to, one of our philosophies is to, to repo, you know, to, to turn kind of our neighborhoods around. We need to repopulate those neighborhoods with working families, home ownership, things like that. And so I, I would think that the, you know, the school district would, would be supportive of that because we want more school age kids in these older neighborhoods to, to go to your schools. And so that's our approach to these neighborhood revitalization projects. So that's kind of what, what our thought was, um, to seeing if, if there's a part for us to play to make sure something beneficial, mutually beneficial happens on that site. Director Tebow, Thank you. And thank you for joining us tonight. Um, during my campaign of a year ago, and throughout my service, I've made it clear that you cannot have a great city without a great school district and great schools. Um, I've talked to the mayor about that, and I think kinda you in passing and others, and I just want to extend, um, my appreciation to you, because I'm always first to criticize you at times. I'm not a fan of tax increment financing unless I can really see that it's benefiting, you know, the school district. And sometimes I just can't see that. But I, I need to compliment you on the fact that you have the betterment of Pueblo at heart here and that that would, uh, advantage the school district. No question about it. And our community as a, as a whole, um, I would like at least as one board member to encourage my, uh, fellow board members to work with you in collaboration on this particular project, as well as any other project that we can see, um, some value in, uh, your invitation to me and others to attend that tour, um, was eye-opening for me and, uh, softened me up a little bit. But, um, I think you're on the right track, and I want to be at least one board member that can support you 99% of the time. Okay. And I, I'm just gonna veer off just a little bit on, on the turf at Central. Mm-hmm. Um, there again is an example of you stepping forward, and you have of course, our, um, board member Director De Niro on your, on your board. Um, and I, for 1:00 AM just appreciative of the efforts that you, you made in that respect to make Pueblo better and to make the school district that much greater than we are. This is what I'm trying to talk about, is that we cannot survive as a district. We cannot survive as a community unless we work together on these things. And we find, you know, that common ground. So later on our agenda, uh, Chris Colter, our, um, facilities director is going to be given a presentation, and I wanna compliment him and all that are who are involved. I'm not sure you'll be here for that, but I just wanted you to know that, that, uh, soccer field is an inner city, um, uh, soccer field for, for boys and girls, as I understand it, who are sometimes in low income areas and cannot get to a practice field. Central does not have a practice field for soccer. Um, but it's gonna be utilized by the community in general. So good for you. When you, um, when I think you need to be criticized, I'll do it. But when I think you need to be complimented, I'll do that too. So I want you to know that I totally appreciate your efforts on both of those subjects that you came here tonight to speak on. Thank you. Thank you. Other questions for Mr. Pacheco? Director De Niro? It's not a question I just would ask. I, I concur with, uh, director Tebow on, um, moving forward with some kind of, um, part not partnership, but collaboration in with Carlisle and, uh, urban Renewal. Uh, I think it would benefit whoever is the developer also, because, um, there is quite a bit of, i, I shouldn't say quite a bit there, there can be obstacles in trying to get things through. Uh, so with that, um, again, I concur with, uh, um, director Tebow and, and hope that we can put something together. Thank you. If I may, I think what we would propose as a, as a concept, uh, to consider, uh, we would want to perhaps get the contact information of the folks that have provided offers or bids to you, and then come up with a conceptual action plan for how to, how to move forward and, and, and try to partner with those folks or collaborate with those folks in a manner. Probably turn that around in the next 30 days, I would imagine. President Pen, if I may. Please Go ahead. Uh, judge, uh, director Mays, Uh, just a couple of observations. One is, uh, uh, obviously as a school district, we have the responsibility to, uh, with any of the property that we own to make sure that the property is, is being put to a beneficial use to begin with, and two, is complimentary to the neighborhoods around us. We wanna be good neighbors in every way, shape and form. Uh, I, I I, I want us to be very careful that about negotiating what terms of the sale might be. Uh, at this point in time, I, I think we have some steps to go through. And in some regards, I'm, I'm a little concerned that we're throwing out, uh, I'm not saying they're conditions, but in some instances sound like they're conditions, uh, that may or may not be, uh, included in, uh, in the future plans. We always have the right as the school district, uh, to restrict, uh, correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Bump, but put restrictions on what we think are going to be, uh, matters that are not going to be beneficial and helpful to the community. But I'm, I'm really a little bit concerned that we're trying to get into the details right now, uh, on this situation and putting things out there that, uh, I don't, I don't know if Mr. Pachecos talked with any developers on this or not, but, uh, you know, that's, that's where the discussions to be taking place, uh, I'm not so sure it should be taking place in public. Thank you. Thank you, director Mays. Any other questions? Well, thank you Mr. Pacheco for being here this evening presenting another, another option to us than what's on the table currently. So thank you so much for your time. Thank You. Nice evening. Alright, Dr. Kimsey, I think we are ready for our next report. President cio, it's my, uh, pleasure to introduce, uh, Mr. Chris Coulter, our Executive Director of Facilities and Construction Management, and he has brought his team with him this evening of whom we are very proud, um, and he will be providing you with that facilities update that you requested previously. Good evening, president cio, um, Dr. Kimey and distinguished measure me, members of the board, uh, and district guests. It is a pleasure to be, uh, speaking to you, uh, this, uh, this evening. Um, is the PowerPoint gonna be up? Just, just all by clicker. Look at us. Alright. Alright. First time. First time. Uh, it has been said that great leadership key qualities often include integrity, respect, empathy, accountability, vision, humility, and a commitment to growth. Essentially, the team that sits before you here tonight embodies these values by demonstrating genuine concern for their teams, fostering open communication and making decisions that align with D 60 principles, while empowering students, teachers, administrators in our community to reach their potential. At this time, I would like to take the opportunity to introduce the facilities leadership team to you. First, I'd like to introduce Mr. Dale Johnson. Dale is the supervisor of maintenance and operations. Second, I want to introduce Mary Deep Benedetto. She is the executive assistant to myself, uh, and she is absolutely imperative to getting done what we try to get done each day. There she is. Alright, just wanna make sure she's there. Uh, Mr. Anthony Vehill, he is the environmental health and Life Safety foreman. There he is, Uh, Mr. Brian Day. He is the trades foreman. Uh, Mr. Phil Amma, he is the plumbing and Grounds foreman. Let's go. There he goes. Alright, Uh, Mr. Andy Boban. He is a custodial foreman and he wears great shirts. Uh, Mr. Anthony Gonzalez, he is another one of our custodial foreman. Uh, and Mr. Jean NoHo, who was here just minutes ago, he had to take off, but he is our warehouse foreman. Today's presentation is broken into seven separate deliverables noted on the screen before you after the seventh presentation regarding the current hail damage roof repairs. I will inject a quick update on the completion of construction at both East and Centennial High Schools in fiscal year 24 25, capital Construction program includes the completion of 49 separate capital projects valued at greater than $3 million. The facilities team is responsible for operating and maintaining 34 separate facilities, including two and a half million occupied square feet of space, and greater than 100 acres of maintained grounds that is greater than 5 million square feet, 44,000 square feet per acre. Right. Uh, at this time I will transition the presentation to Mr. Brian Day to talk about the two emergency boiler projects recently completed. Good afternoon. Uh, we did have some emergency boiler replacement at Bradford Elementary, uh, due to some craft boilers leaking water, we are complete with that project. Everything is finished. We also had an emergency boiler replacement for Risley Middle School due to cracked boilers. We're also complete with this project. Everything's running smooth. I'll hand it back over to Chris for central soccer field. Thank you, Brian. Uh, talking a little bit about the Central High School Turf Project. It is anticipated to be completed this spring, uh, and summer while including, uh, support from the Pueblo Urban Renewal, uh, Mr. Pachecos organization, urban Renewal Authority, uh, the city and, uh, district 60. The contractual documents are currently being prepared with a design build RFP anticipated to be released in late January. And what you see, uh, before us, there is a, uh, architect's concept of the existing, uh, of the planned project. And you can see the, uh, the turf field there, but you can, as you can imagine, uh, we have an awful lot of earth work, um, and, uh, concrete work as well as a little bit of asphalt and underland grounds and subgrade work. Um, but certainly the project and the concept documents looks pretty fantastic. Uh, I would like to turn it over now to Mr. Dale Johnson. Uh, to talk a little bit about an update on Roncalli. I, a request for proposal was sent out the la the fourth of, uh, November, 1224. Uh, the contract, the closing date was as of yesterday. We still need to go through that, through all the bids. Uh, we had a really good turnout of people, uh, being the winter months. Um, a lot of us asbestos, abatements not being done in schools, so there was a lot of hungry people out there. So we're expecting some good pricing. Um, so we've gone through the answer and proposal process, and again, um, the bid opening was scheduled for yesterday, but with today being a snow day, we didn't have time to get together. So at this time, I'd like to turn it back over to Brian Day. Brian day's. Now you, you're doing South. Oh, I'm, I'm sorry. Okay. I'm doing south also. Um, so as you know, we did a, a major development, uh, through a best grant, uh, at air conditioning for South High School. Um, some of those areas that were not normally for office occupancy. Uh, the school had elected to make a school store now into the athletic office. So, um, we had to wait a while to find out if we had bond funds left over to go back and add air conditioning to those spaces and add heat, which was normally not purposed for that. Um, and so we have started that project working with Houston Construction. And, uh, we seem to be well on schedule. Um, we're looking at doing, uh, some asbestos abatement work, um, starting as soon as the kids get out over the Christmas break so that we won't impact any of, uh, school activities. Um, during the winter months, we'll be working in the evenings and on weekends, uh, on the roof areas, again, not to be able to impact any school activities, but to move forward in hopes of having air conditioning and heating in those spaces by summer of 25. I would like to turn it over to Lamar. Thank you, Dale. Good evening, superintendent. Dr. Kimsey, president Pen Nuncio and board members. Here is the Insurance Roofing claim update. We have been working with CCMG to inspect our damage roofs from the hailstorm we had in July of 2023. We have 49 roofs that are to be assessed for so far, CCMG has done 18 of them. CCMG has estimated these 18 schools to be almost $4 million worth of hail damage. CCMG should be done assessing the rest of the schools by February, 2025, and has been working with our insurance carrier to process the completed schools. We are planning to do a phase one on Reroofing six schools, starting in spring of 2025, and being completed summer of 2025 if everything goes as planned, a possible phase two late fall. Thank you for your time. Now I hand the mic over to back to Dale Johnson regarding Dutch Clark Pure Projects. Okay. A couple years ago, as you know, uh, Pablo Urban Reno Authority, uh, afforded the school district some funds to update Dutch Clark Stadium. At this point, we are in phase two of that project, and we are right on schedule. Um, we, we were initially gonna do the locker rooms of phase two, but because we didn't want to interrupt football and we knew we had a lot of, um, schools with potential for, uh, possibly going to state, uh, we were rearranged the schedule a little bit. We, the project has started, um, as soon as the football season got over, and we are currently in remodel phase right now of the both, uh, east and west, um, public restrooms at this point. I'd like to turn it over to Chris. Thank you, Dale. The two unoccupied properties, uh, are the form that are owned by the school district that we just mentioned with, um, the Pura folks with, uh, Mr. Pacheco, uh, are the schools of Carlisle and Strac are the unoccupied schools of Carlisle and Strac. The buildings, uh, were built in the thirties and the forties, um, and are on the market today with realtor support, as well as some other considerations that are, uh, uh, in front of us today. Um, the annual operating dollars for each property are noted on the slides being presented. Um, here's for example, here's str and you can see the square footage and the current operating costs that we incur, we anticipate annually. Uh, and then these are the costs for Carlisle, Carlisle being a bigger facility. So certainly we're in a situation where the annual costs are a little bit or are significantly more. Um, uh, the annual operating dollars incurred by the district are for utilities, insurance, and maintenance, and are included in the respective slides, as I mentioned, Regarding Centennial and East High Schools. Uh, the centennial parking lot, for example. Uh, I would encourage you to go over and see it. Uh, the faculty parking lot opened actually today, but we didn't have school today. So it's, uh, it's gonna be an opening tomorrow. The lot includes 76 spaces, uh, of all of our visitor parking, as well as all of our a DA parking, uh, for the school. Uh, the first student lot will be paved in early January and includes 110 spaces. The second and final lot for students includes 107 spaces and shall be complete the first week of March, 2025. All landscaping items are anticipated to be complete and ready, uh, for school use, uh, in full, uh, for the full facilities team, the facilities, grounds teams, and the maintenance teams. By the last week of 2020, or the last week of March in 2025, Last page At East High School. Uh, the athletic fields, uh, and the track asphalt are to be complete in March of 2025. The track finish surface is anticipated to be complete by April, 2025. The delay for the, uh, track surface is required is because of the required 60 degree ambient temperature for that track surface to cure, um, for, uh, the track surfacing and the completion there included punch list, uh, with HW Houston for the, the projects contractor has been committed to by the projects contractor by the first week of May. And that will be fun. That will be great. Uh, this completes the 20, the, our update, our facilities update for the Board of Education. And we are, uh, poised and we are ready to answer any questions that you all may have. Director De Niro. Uh, just a couple questions. What were the number of, uh, student parking spaces at Centennial? The, the first phase was two 200. And Lemme grab that. I'll grab that. Do you wanna go back to the, uh, the faculty lot too, Because The faculty lot is kind of included in the overall number. I thought. 76 you said on the faculty, correct. That's exactly right. I think it's 107 in the first phase of the student lot and 110 in the second lot. Okay. So I'm, I'm curious, is, is that going to be enough for, for that Building? You know, fortunately, um, I don't know what the architect, what the, uh, what they were told at, at the very, very beginning, uh, relative to, uh, what they were told in terms of the student count and the number of drivers that were anticipated for to support student, uh, support. But I can go reverify that with the architect with, um, and I'm happy to do so and I can come back with to the board with what the assumptions were. Yeah, I just, I just thought that was a real low number for a school, a high school. But Maybe It's, I will, I, I will find out and if we need to add some now's the time to do it when, when the, the, at that time, it'd be time to go ahead and get the, uh, the groundwork, the infrastructure work as well as the asphalt, asphalt plants. Um, right. Early on. Yeah. Usually a little bit Cheaper. And then I would wonder how, what, how, what is the number of the faculty over at East High School if 76 slots is enough for the faculty? That's just a question. I'll find that out as well. I'll have an answer for you tomorrow. And then, um, maybe the same on, um, east High. Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely. I'll get you all those numbers. And then, um, my other question is regarding the turf field. Yes. I'm looking at the rendering by the architect and I know that there is fencing around the tennis field, and I believe around the football field, will there be any fencing around the turf? There? There's gonna have to be fencing. 'cause you can see that that is at grade. So it's one of those things where people just walking up cars, other things we, we do anticipate not only doing fencing, but doing probably additional boulders just to make sure and doing something Because I couldn't see, and I thought I could see the tennis right. Uh, but it just looked like it was flat and I thought, ooh, okay, well This, This is that, those ly concepts sometimes. Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you so much. Oh, You're very welcome, Director Tebow. Uh, thank you. And thank you all for being here tonight. I just, uh, noticed that you were all here when I was having a dialogue with, uh, Mr. Pacheco. And I just wanted to extend my gratitude to you all for the work that you do, especially relative to this, uh, soccer field. What, uh, I've done a little research on it. I, I was not involved in it, but, um, in addition to, uh, the Pueblo Urban Renewal Association and our esteemed, uh, board member, uh, director Dero was involved in that process. Um, I did mention that Mayor Graham was quite active in securing funds and the city council, I caught part of their debate one night when I was not doing much of anything, um, and turned the TV on and it was kind of interesting to watch, um, our superintendent who was the leader in that. Cause you and your team, of course our CFO who we always have to include because mm-hmm. She has all the money that we need. Um, and I know Dalton Sprouse and his team we're so, you know, involved in District sixties Foundation and our president of the board, um, uh, director Pen Nuncio is part of that, if I'm not mistaken. Um, and the Central High School Foundation, and there were several private contributors too. I, I don't know who, I don't know who they were, but there were some in modest sums. Um, but again, I think it just shows a good, um, effort on the part of a community to realize the importance of, um, providing educational op public educational opportunities for our citizens. Um, I probably missed someone or some group, but again, I wasn't, you know, involved, but I just wanted to be sure that if I did, I appreciate their efforts as well. This is the kind of thing that makes me proud to be a board member and sometimes, uh, we need those instances to get enthused about some of the things we deal with. So thank you again and good luck to you as you, you know, work on all our facilities. Um, I think you're doing a fabulous job. You're looking at the team right now. Thank you, Director Cisneros. Thank you. Uh, thank, first of all, thank you for your presentation and, uh, for introducing, uh, your team here. Appreciate all the work that you all do, um, for the district and all of your, your fields. Um, my question, um, was on, uh, the annual operating costs of Carlisle and, uh, Fairview or Strac, I'm sorry, um, for Carlisle, that seems a little high. The hundred when you hear it, you know, the hundreds out $109,000. Um, maybe you could just clarify what drives that. Is it, I know insurance liability, all that. Is that basically what's driving that Anticipated maintenance operations? Typically? Most of it is, is utilities. Yeah. Um, but the, the, I tried to be consistent on the numbers, but these were the numbers in terms of cost per square foot, uh, to be used for the, uh, annual operating costs that we utilized through the 2023, uh, master plan document that was delivered to us through MOA architecture. I didn't wanna sort of get away from that sort of habit of sort of applying that particular, um, the, the numeral associated with the dollars per square foot. So I stuck with that same dollars per square foot for both facilities. But you're exactly right. Um, that, that should be a little bit strike. You would imagine that we could probably do a little bit better than that, but at the same time, it's not sort of, you know, it's not on the, it's not sort of an operating facility per se right now. So it doesn't get the attention that it may, maybe could, could use, but that's the number we, we would use as a planning factor. Okay. Yes. Alright. Thank you for Clarifying. Those aren't actuals. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. You're Very welcome. Other questions? Well, Mr. Coter, thank you so much for being here this evening, bringing your team. It's so nice to meet all of you and we are just so grateful to you. 'cause we know the work that you do to keep this district up and running. The buildings looking beautiful. Um, and you're throwing curve balls probably all the time. So thank you so, so much for, for what you all do. Thank you. Well thank you so much for your support. Thank you. Appreciate you being here. Yeah. Nice to meet. Alright, Dr. Kimsey, I believe we have one more report this evening. We do. It's my pleasure to introduce our assistant superintendent for human resources, Mr. Dero, who will go through our proposed district instructional calendars for the next two years. That's correct. Uh, good evening, superintendent Kimsey President, pen Nuncio, and members of the board. Uh, thank you for giving us this opportunity to update you on our instructional calendar process for the next two years. As Dr. Kimsey mentioned, both for 25, 26 and for 26 27. Um, it's important to remember that since we have moved to a single unified instructional four day calendar for all of our schools, there's a little variance for innovation and a little bit variance for preschool. But other than that, um, we have a consistent Monday through Thursday schedule for students throughout the year with no other random days off. Other than really the only Monday is holidays. We celebrate our Labor Day Memorial Day. Um, the consistency of our four day week, uh, makes the schedule very tight and there's really not a lot of change year to year as you guys have seen for the last couple years of these calendars. Um, our committee comprises of representation from PEA, which is our teachers, counselors and nurses, PPEA, which is our parapros Pesa, which is our secretaries and advocates, our executive assistants security and preschool. We also have, we also have, uh, uh, principal representation from all three levels, um, elementary, middle, and high school. In addition, we have a representative from our professional development department and student records and reporting just to make sure we're making all our state requirements under the rules of the four day week. Um, everyone was not able to attend all of our meetings, but we do a really good job of keeping everybody up to date. We send our drafts out to our team and we get feedback from everybody related to the drafts. And all of our members were, um, able to approve the drafts that you have before you tonight in the consent, consent agenda. At this time, our breaks aligned to PCC District 70 and CSU Pueblo, which has been important to our community as a whole to make sure that we're all aligned on those breaks. Um, we've been communicating with all of them as we developed our calendars. However, not all of these organizations have approved their calendars, but like I said, we've been talking to them about where they're gonna place those breaks and currently we all match. Um, committee members then went out to get feedback from their representative groups, talked to 'em and came back, like I said, to finalize those drafts you have before you tonight. Um, we're excited for your approval so that we can get this information out to our family, staff, and community so we can start to plan for the next two years. So you've had those in your, uh, materials. Do you have any questions related to either of those years of drafts? Director Cisneros. Thank you. Um, yeah, I just have a question about, um, has there been any talk or discussion about going back to a five day school week? Um, or is it kind of just a foregone thing? Four day week, four day school week is how we're going forward? Um, There was zero interest or desire to move to the five day Week. Okay. Thank you Director De Niro. Thank you. Um, I noticed that on pupil contact days it's 150 days. Do you, can you tell me the number of hours of instructional time? I can't off the top of my head, but I could definitely get that for you. There are a threshold that we have to meet, um, correct with her to do that. And I don't remember the exact hours, but I could definitely get that for you. Well if you can get the instructional hours that we have of, of that 150 days and then Absolutely. What is the required number of hours. Mm-hmm. Thank you. We are over it. We exceed it, but I'll get it for you. Any other questions? There was some debate, just so you guys know, in the next, the following year, if you guys noticed in 26, 27 around, um, graduation. 'cause Memorial Day is in a weird place. It's never been as late as it is in that year. So in that year, um, there was a little consideration of is it gonna be in the third week or fourth week, but our principals took that information back and kind of looked at it and decided it would be better to keep it consistent on that third week rather than just to make it on the Memorial Day weekend. So other than that, it's pretty similar to the calendar we have this year. Director Mays, I don't wanna forget you. I apologize. I I'm not used to, uh, referencing, uh, online. So if you just shout out if I'm, uh, not calling on you to ask questions. Yeah, thank you. I I will let you know if I have something that I want to add. Thank you. Thank you. Alright. All right. Mr. Um, RO thank you so much for that update. It sounds like it was a really smooth process and uh, it's just not, it's gonna be very nice for the community to, for planning purposes for everybody involved. So thank you so much for your work on that. And your team, the committee all, we are now onto 10.0 policy. We have five policies we will potentially be taking action on this evening. The first one is board policy JB Equal Education Opportunities. This is a second reading. May I have a motion please? I move. We adopt the policy. Is there a second? Second. Is there any discussion? See none. Please call the vote. Ms. Patron. Mr. Cisneros? Aye. Dr. DeNiro? Aye. Judge Mays Aye. Mrs. Peno? Aye. Mr. Kibo? Aye. Alright. The modifications to board policy JB have been approved. The next policy that we may be taking action on this evening is board policy JF admission and denial of admission. This is a second reading also. May I have a motion please? I move that the Board of Education approve the modifications to board policy JF admission and denial of admission on second and final reading as presented in the December 10th, 2024 board materials. Is there a second? Second. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, please call the vote. Ms. Patron. Mr. Cisneros Aye. Dr. De Niro? Aye. Judge Mays Aye. Mrs. Peno Aye. Mr. Tebow Aye. The modifications to board policy JF JF have been approved? The next policy to take action on this evening is board policy J-I-C-D-D, violent and aggressive behavior. This is a second reading as well. May I have a motion please? I move that the Board of Education approves the modifications to board policy J-I-C-D-D, violent and aggressive behavior on second and final reading as presented in the December 10th, 2024 board materials. Is there a second? Second. Is there any debate? Alright, Please take the vote. Ms. Patron. Mr. Cisneros? Aye. Dr. De Niro? Aye. Judge Mayes Aye. Mrs. Pen, nuncio Aye. Mr. Tebow Aye. The modifications to board policy J-I-C-D-D-C-D-D have been approved. The next policy to take action on this evening is board policy a CE three guidelines regarding the support of students who are transgender and gender non-conforming. This is a second reading. May I have a motion please? I move that the board of education approves the modifications to board policy AC dash e dash three guidelines regarding the stu support of students who are transgender and gender nonconforming on second and final reading as presented in the December 10th, 2024 board materials. Is there a second? I second. Is there any discussion? Director Tevo? Well, um, are there any amendments to, to this? Well I was asking for discussion, but you may be offering up an amendment. I wanted to see if anyone else had to, wanted to discuss or offer an amendment. I I don't wish to offer an amendment. I just didn't know if we were going right into the vote or if some of the amendments that were passed out would be offered. I I was just trying to figure out, um, our procedural, Yes, there probably will be an amendment. I just wanna make sure everybody else had the opportunity to discuss or to offer up an amendment first. Okay, thank you. Alright, well I would like to offer an amendment. I passed out to, uh, everyone and Director Mays I, uh, emailed this to you, so hopefully you've had a moment to look at it. I've, um, given each board member two amendments, but I'd like to combine the two amendments together into one amendment to make it easier to make an amendment to what's on the table. Right now I move to amend policy a CE three by moving the bolded section, overnight activity and athletic trips to be located just below the bolded section labeled locker room accessibility. W Actually, Mr. Bump, I, I want that section to be moved up below. Um, yeah, locker room accessibility. Let's see. Okay, I think I got that right. Let me repeat that. I moved to amend policy a CE three by moving the bolded section, overnight activity and athletic trips to just below the bolded section labeled locker room accessibility. I'm not sure that's gonna work, Mr. Pump. I'm gonna have to look at it. I think it may be easier for me to do these as two separate amendments. We had talked about this before the board meeting. I think I'm gonna keep them as two separate amendments 'cause it's a little confusing. Alright, I'm sorry. Board. Um, I, I move to amend policy a CE three by adding a paragraph to the policy following the bolded section, overnight activity and athletic trips, which states, given the pledge in this policy that all students have a right to privacy. And given that some students could feel their privacy is compromised by the presence of a biological male in female designated facilities. And in present parentheses, I put bathrooms, locker rooms and overnight tra overnight accommodations or biological females in male designated facilities. Any student who has a need for increased privacy or their parent or guardian may request re regard regardless of the underlying reason. Alternative access to a single staff bathroom or an alternative changing area, or a separate changing schedule or a reasonable accommodation for an overnight trip, which may include a private room request should be made in writing to the building principal. And all such requests will be handled confidentially and with respect. Is there a second? I second. Is there any discussion? Director, uh, de Niro, uh, Mr. Bump, do you see any concern or conflict on this additional or change of language? As I Understand it is adding the same protection for any student that is provided currently for transgender students. I see no problem with that. Thank you. And just to clarify my thinking on that, at the last meeting, what came up, um, several times by various board members was the concern about how to balance this policy for all students. Uh, we were, we're trying to abide by the law and offer accommodations, um, to transgender students, uh, to be respectful of their privacy, um, and, um, to, to be, again, to follow the law. And so to offer up balance for the non-transgender student or the, uh, gender nonconforming, this would, would accommodate all students', uh, privacy. So that is why I'm bringing this, uh, amendment to the table. Director Tebow, Thank you. Um, I'm gonna oppose this amendment. I, because the way I understood the district's, um, legal counsel who gave us a, a memorandum regarding this particular policy was that the way that the policy reads currently without this amendment satisfies the various, um, federal, state, title IX and other relevant laws, rules or regulations that are, um, applicable in situations like this. And so I don't think that this particular amendment is needed. Uh, I think the, the language that's in the current policy, a CE three, uh, is satisfactory. And for that matter, it sort of extends over and above what we were asked to do by the legislature in terms of allowing a student to use, uh, a chosen name. This seems to go way beyond, you know, that particular policy that, um, we were attempting to, to comply with and fulfill. So I think it's, it's just, um, something that's just not needed. And the way I read the current policy is that, um, these things are taken care of in an appropriate manner. Thank you. Director Tebow, other comments from the board And director? Ms. Pen? I, uh, Thank you. Uh, director Mays, go ahead. Uh, yeah, I, I think, uh, the, the policy as the president exists takes care of, uh, those concerns. Uh, secondly, uh, I just read the amendment for the very first time, just a few minutes ago. So, uh, haven't really had a, in, in my opinion, an adequate time to go back and forth and do all the studying. I, I probably should do on this, but I, I don't think there's a need to change what's, I think we're, we're protected the way it is right now. Thank you. Other comments from the board? And as I read it, and when I look at the policy, you know, we were, we were, we could make changes to it. Um, we added the, a CA component of the non-legal name change to that. But as I'm looking at it, I don't see any accommodation for the non-transgender students in this particular policy. And I know this is what we're supporting, but I think it's just an added, an added piece to make sure that the privacy of all students, I think it, it definitely can't hurt. It makes it very clear. I don't see anything that would, um, if Mr. Bum said that it's not, um, going against any, any kind of other policy or laws that we have that I think this is an easy thing to just add and protect all students' privacy. Are there any further comments? Alright, so, as it is right now, this is an amendment, um, to the policy that, uh, that's on the floor. So we are taking a vote on the amendment to the policy that's on the table. Would you please call the vote Ms. Patron? Mr. Cisneros? Aye. Dr. Dino? Aye. Judge Mays? No. Mrs. Pozo? Aye. Mr. Tebo? No. Alright. So as it stands right now, the amendment to policy a CE three, the current draft we have has been, um, approved. Are there any other concerns or questions about a CE three or amendments to the policy? Alright, we will go ahead and take the vote Ms. Patron for the policy with as amended. Oh, director Tebow. Thank you. Um, you also had another amendment that was passed out, I guess moving a section below another section. Thank you. Are you not offering that Or? Yes, I am. Thank you. Director Tebow for I was gonna pull 'em together and then I ended up making them two. So thank you so much for, uh, giving me that opportunity to offer up another amendment to a CE three. I move to amend policy a CE three by moving the bolded section, overnight activity and athletic trips to be located just below the bolded section labeled locker room accessibility. And the reason behind that is because, um, it goes bathrooms, locker rooms, and then there are a few things in between. And then it talks about overnight travel. It just seems like it makes sense to include the paragraph that we just passed, um, that it would be, would follow those three subsections. Uh, is there a second? My second. Is there any further discussion about moving that section? Alright, Ms. Patone, we are taking the vote on another amendment to the draft policy. A CE three. Mr. Cisneros? Aye. Dr. De Niro? Aye. Judge Mays? Judge Mays. Judge Mays, I'm, can you hear me now? Yes, yes, Yes, we can judge. Director Mayes. Okay. Well, I, uh, in, in order to be consistent on voting, no, sorry about having to move, move back and forth through all of these screens. That's okay. Thank you. Judge Mays? No, Mrs. Pen, nuncio Aye. Mr. Tebow? No. All right, Mr. Tebow. You are right. I actually have one other amendment I would like to make to a CE three. Thank you. And I hope everyone has this one in front of them. This one is, I move to amend policy a CE three by adding a paragraph to the policy following the bolded section, physical education classes and intramural sports, which states any student or their parent or guardian may request, regardless of the underlying reason, a waiver to participate in PE classes or intramural sports activities when they believe they may not feel safe by participating in the activity. Do I have a second? I second. Is there any discussion? Director Tebow? Um, Unfortunately I don't have that in writing. Um, and maybe I could just take a quick look at that, if I could vague leave to just have a moment to, to look at it. Absolutely. Oh, okay. Yes, absolutely. Discussion right now. Director De Niro. I'm, I'm trying to understand this, um, amendment and where, where are you putting it and where do you want it? And in regards to what, What came up at the last board meeting was also another issue of safety and not necessarily that there would be, um, that there was the potential for, um, students to feel unsafe. There was always that potential. And this is not looking, you know, this is not gonna conflict with anything to do with chasa or, um, um, organized sports. This is if during a physical education class or an intramural sport sports, um, team that may have, um, a transgender student on it. And if a student should feel that from maybe a particular activity, I'm not saying they're, they're, they, it's not requesting to have a waiver for all physical education classes or participation in everything that they may be able to request, um, a waiver to participate if during that particular activity they would feel unsafe, like during a volleyball game or some playing volleyball or something like that. So it's just, um, to offer up another, uh, area protection of safety for students who may not feel safe. This one? No, I don't, I dunno. Guess We don't have it. So it is right here. Look at this one. So if we, we'll just take a couple minutes for you to look at those carefully. Are there any other questions? Director Tebow. Thank you. I'm gonna, uh, oppose this, um, amendment as I did your first amendment re relative to overnight activity and athletic trips for sort of virtually the same reasons. Um, and let me just for the record, state that again, that this policy as it exists seems to be in conformity with all required federal, state rules, regulations, um, especially Title IX as we know it today. And just as the previous amendment, which the board adopted talks about, um, feeling privacy being compromised and kind of having these, these, um, well, well, these, these feelings, um, that perhaps something is going on. This also talks about, um, re requesting, regardless of the underlying reason, a waiver to participate in PE classes and intramural sports activities. And to me, um, there doesn't, because they don't feel safe, I, I just, there doesn't seem to be a sort of a standard or something that I can sink my teeth in to say that a student or a parent, um, has a basis upon which to, you know, argue for, for these kind of exceptions, other than the fact that they feel that something's going on. And we, we set the curriculum as the board, and if we set a curriculum where there is a requirement of a PE class, my understanding is that, Um, you know, students are to take that class under our curriculum standards and not about feelings. So, I, I don't know, again, it's just going way far beyond what, um, the chosen name law asked us to do. And, um, I think we're just butchering a CE three to the point that I don't think it's gonna uphold in, in, um, in court if, if this is, uh, challenged. So, um, I don't think we need it. So I'm being, I'm gonna be voting against it. Director De Niro, um, I'm gonna ask for a legal opinion from Mr. Bump. Is it, is this necessary? 'cause I think a, a parent can always pull their kid out of a, of a class. I don't think we need to have it in writing in a policy. And I was gonna defer that to Dr. Kimsey as well. I think that's my expectation is that, uh, depending upon the circumstances a student approaches a teacher and if they wanna be exempted that day, but a waiver from the entire class, I think would be unusual to do this, where especially credits are required and PE classes are required. So as the, as wa the point was made by Director Tebow and, uh, Mr. In answer to your question, we do have curricular requirements, as you know, uh, that are tied to credits, especially in high school for graduation. Uh, and we can't waive whole sections of the curriculum for a student and still uphold what is required to graduate. Um, so we have to be very careful there. Um, of course, if a student has a medical reason for being out, that does happen occasionally, um, you know, I may break my arm and I need accommodations. The, then I present a doctor's note and my PE teacher finds an alternate activity for me. Um, you know, that doesn't require me. So like, if we're playing volleyball, obviously I can't do that with a broken arm. Um, but, uh, we do have curricular requirements, um, and so we do have to adhere to those. And Right. Just to clarify, this was for an activity, not the class as a whole. This was if there was a particular activity, and then that would be the option would be to be offered up an alternative activity. So, any other questions? P President? Yes, Mr. Mayes? Uh, uh, I think we're really getting far afield here now. Uh, when we're talking about some of the, we're talking about constantly constitutionally protected rights, and I believe that, uh, Mr. Tebo was spot on when he started out his comments by saying that these are rights that have been declared to be constitutionally protected. And, and it strikes me as a little bit odd at this point in time, and we'll probably get into it again when we get to a CAR. Uh, we had a, a fair amount of testimony, uh, with the chosen name, uh, discussion and people bringing forth actual real life anecdotal, uh, examples of how danger was experienced and how fear was experienced. I've not heard anything yet coming forth to give any kind of a, i, I don't know what I want to call it, but there's been no testimony that, as far as I'm concerned as to why there needs to be this particular, uh, amendment to this. And, and I'm going to, to be consistent in, in what I'm doing and I'm going to vote in upholding the law. And I think the law doesn't need this amendment for it to be enforced. So I also will be voting against it. Thank you, director Mays. And again, this is just a mechanism for students to just ensure that there's a mechanism if they should feel unsafe, and this is the opposite side. So yes. Any other comments from the board? Alright, just to be clear with this as an amendment to pol to, uh, policy, a CE three, will you please call the vote Ms. Patron Trump? Mr. Ciro? Aye. Dr. Daniel, um, I'm going to vote no because, uh, my question to Mr. Bump in that if this was needed and that all students can, uh, can opt, can ask, or the parents can ask for a student to be, um, excluded from an activity. Uh, so again, my vote is no Judge Mays No Mrs. Parent name? Aye. Mr. Tebo? Uh, no. Alright then now we are back to the original amendment. I believe if an unless, or the original policy on the table that which has been amended for a E three. Are there any other director? Tebow, Are are we in discussion We can still discuss? Yes, Because I, I just wanted to, to make the point that, um, the last amendment failed three to two. So it's not part of the policy as amended. Correct. That, that amendment failed. Okay. So, um, I just want to express my thought that I think the better procedure on a CA or a CE three is that to get beyond the chosen name question, it would've been, I think, prudent for us as a board to even break out into a, a committee or subcommittee to go over that policy and to see how it aligns, um, with current laws and how it aligns with, uh, current, current school board policies and practices, customs traditions, instead of Chopping it up as we have done, I think it's, um, we could have just gone, um, with a vote on the red line suggested changes to conform to what the legislature asked us to do. We've gone completely astray in my opinion. And we're in, we're in water now where I, I just don't think this policy is, um, is gonna be upheld. Uh, and it's gonna cause difficulty for many individuals. Um, difficulties that weren't, weren't necessary. I wish we would've taken a different approach. So I'll be voting no on the policy as amended by the two amendments that passed. Director De Niro. I appreciate your, your comments. Uh, director Tebow, however, to have a sub committee review, um, policies before a, the board has an opportunity to dialogue and discuss. Um, doesn't feel right to me because our discussions are in public, all five of us not to have a subcommittee review a policy and then bring it, this is how I'm thinking. I, I understand you a subcommittee, review a policy and then bring their suggestions or conclusions to the board. That, that doesn't feel right to me. I, I'm comfortable with, um, having a policy reviewed or, um, not necessarily reviewed, but a item from CASB reviewed by our attorney, um, and redlined for discussion for the entire board in, in the presence of the public as we do most, most all policies that we have some, um, discussion on either reviewing or up, um, making it to the date or to the legislation. Um, so I, I, I, I couldn't, um, approve having subcommittees for policies from board members. I mean, that just doesn't seem right in my opinion, but that's just my opinion. Director Tebow, thank You. I I don't want you to misconstrue what I'm saying. I, I think it's relatively common even in the world of CASB for boards of education throughout the state to have public meetings of members of the board, um, two members, three members, even all members. You can call it a subcommittee or you can call it a special meeting or whatever to review all policies. In fact, I think if you have attended, um, a lot of the, um, educational opportunities that CASB has offered us as board members, I'm sure you remember that they are actually advising boards, especially when a new superintendent comes on board to have a process to review every single policy to conform those policies, to current law, into current practices. So many policies we have are old policies. In fact, this policy we're talking about was passed in 2016. And my suggestion wasn't to keep something away from the public, but to say, let's act tonight on the things that we were obligated to act on based on the law relative to chosen name. And then look at this policy like we would, we should be looking at all policies somehow, openly and publicly, and figuring out what policies are really valuable and not eliminating those that are not, and modifying those that are. So now we have a new president and a new administration, we may have an entirely new Title IX process, and it would seem prudent to me to wait until all that sort of gels to review this policy and to have whatever you want to call it, uh, if it's the entire board or a portion of the board in public meetings, study and make recommendations along with the district's legal counsel relative to how the policy can be adapted to be a very strong, uh, common, uh, lawful policy. Um, I, I don't know why that would've, I don't know why you'd object to that, but you know, you have every right to object to, to what, what you want to object to. But to me, that is good governance to try to get policies in shape. And that's what I'm suggesting here is that we're, we've gone off on two separate amendments that to me sound like, well, you know, these people out there aren't the kind of people we want our kids to be with. We feel really upset about it. And I don't think that's the way to make policy on a board of education. Um, we're not following the law as far as I'm concerned. We're just letting our feelings and our passions dictate how we're setting policy. And to me, that is not good governance. And so I just can't tell you how much I disagree with your statements. But, um, I think it'd be who us to, if we can't do it in this instance, we should probably be doing it in other policy. There are less, um, passionate so that we can get our policies. You have a book? I have a book. It's all online. There are 900 pages of policies. And frankly, I don't think any board member knows exactly what our policies are to any extent. I mean, it's good for us to review them, and that's all I'm suggesting in this situation. Thank you. Director Tebow. Director De Niro. Um, you know, I have looked at the policies and there's quite a few, um, policies that are dated 2013. And the policies that we have received, uh, this last year, uh, for review are many of those are ones that, um, needed updated. And that's when they were brought forward, uh, totally as a, as a board. I don't think it's been since 2013 that we really looked at all the policies. And we did that because we had a new superintendent at that time. Uh, and we went through, um, I think there was an outside individual with that worked with CASB and correct me, Mr. Bump, if I am, if I'm wrong. And then Mr. Bump looked at 'em. And then, um, we took so many policies at a time at each board meeting, uh, it was a long process, but we all together went through it. Uh, we didn't have, um, two people, uh, board members and a committee look at policies and then present it to, um, the, the whole board. Uh, there are a lot of policies and if you're talking about a work session, then I can understand that. But you mentioned two or three or four or the whole board. Well, after three, it is the whole board. So I, um, I'm not, you know, I'm just talking about policies in general, the process of policies in general. I'm not going to point out any particular one in at all. But, um, many of our policies are from 2013. It was the last time that they were reviewed and before that, there were some that were still on the books of 1976, and that's why we had to do that. Uh, but I, you know, it's, it's not, it's just a discussion item. It's not a argument. It's just that, um, in my posi my position is, is that I, I don't feel like we need a subcommittee to look at policies. I think that's, um, you know, that's the board's work and it is a long, uh, long work and it's, it, it consumes a lot of time. So, um, that's, that's all I have. Alright. I think we are back to, if we are finished with discussion, there's no further discussion or amendments, we are to the vote. And just to be clear, I'd like to just reread what the motion on the floor is that we are voting on. Um, I move that the Board of Education approves the modifications to board policy AC dash e dash three as amended guidelines regarding the support of students who are transgender and gender nonconforming on second and final reading as presented in the December 10th, 2024 board materials. Please call the vote Ms. Patron. Mr. Cisneros. Aye. Dr. De Niro? Aye. Judge Mays? No. Mrs. Peno Aye. Mr. Tebow? No, I, All right. The next item under 10.0 policy up for action tonight is new regulation, A CA dash R student request to use a chosen name, which is the procedures to be used with board policy a CA. This is a second reading. May I have a motion please? I move that the board of Education approve the new regulation ACA dash R student request to use a chosen name procedures on second and final reading. Is there a second? I second. Is there any debate or amendments? Yeah, I have some amendments. Director tiva. Thank You. Um, unless someone else has, uh, amendments, um, that they'd like to offer before these, I have provided four amendments to the board and as was previously done, I think the best way to handle this, if it's appropriate, Madam President, and, and, and so far as you're concerned, is to go through each one. Um, if, if, if they get a second, of course. Mm-hmm. But I can just kind of offer them. You can read the language. If people feel that they need to be seconded, then they can second it. We can discuss it if that's the appropriate way to handle this. Absolutely. So if Director, director Tebow, if you'd like to make a motion to offer up your First Amendment, that would be great. Yes. And so I will offer amendment number. May I, may I ask a question, please? Abso yes. Director, may I, Uh, Mr. Tebow, I have, I'm familiar with what I believe was one amendment. It had to do with a due process argument on, on an appellate level. Uh, I thought I heard you say that there were three others that you may have also. Uh, were those just given out tonight? Uh, I guess I, I guess the question is, I don't seem to have anything other than one than that one amendment. They're the same. Are they the same as you? Last one? Yeah. Director may I believe Dr. Kimsey would've emailed that to you. May have probably came in around four o'clock this afternoon. They're all on one Page and they're all on one page. It was from Dr. Kimsey. Well, lemme go back and check. I did see the one, uh, uh, you know, I'm, I'm out, I'm out of the country now, so I'm just kind of putting things together. I can't say that I've been on my computer all day long, so, And we can absolutely, you know, take a couple minutes to, so you can, uh, find that out. Well, we could re email it to you. Uh, that's fine. I'll, I'll go in and check and thing in in the meantime, uh, rather than take up any more time. Uh, I certainly don't have any problems with it. Mr. Tebow presenting his amendments at this time. Thank you. Thank you. Director? Yes. Director De Niro. Um, director Tebow. Are these the same as you had gave out last at the last meeting? No. No. Okay. Thank you. Is it this one? Yes, that's it. Okay. I thought that was very similar. Yes. Some are the same and some are similar. Yeah. To be honest, yeah, I can explain that. Mentioned that to Mr. Mays. He doesn't, he doesn't think that he has any of them. Yes. He would've just received it probably ear late this afternoon. So if, if he, he probably hasn't had a chance to look at it 'cause he's out of the country, so. Makes sense. So Director Tebow, if you would go, like to go ahead and, uh, make your first amendment or motion to amend. Well, I, I move to, to offer amendment number one. Would you like to read amendment number one? Yeah, I can certainly do that. Um, what it does is it goes into the, um, the definitional section. I'll try to pull that up where it's, um, there's definitions of chosen name, gender identity and legal name. And my amendment establishes the definition of the term guardian. And it says, guardian is a person that has been granted guardianship or guardianship of the person of a minor under Colorado law, or in, or another state law enforceable in Colorado. The idea behind it is, is that we're talking a lot about parents and guardians, and my view is that in Colorado there is a definite definition of, of what a guardian or guardianship of the person is. And just to make sure that we're dealing with people who qualify in that category and not just want to be thought of as a guardian of a minor in, in, uh, acting on this, um, particular regulation that we're, we're we're talking about. That's, that's the idea behind it, is to make sure that we're dealing with qualified people and not just people that determine on their own that they're qualified. Did we, did we get the second on that? I don't know. Do We, do I have a second? Second Through the discussion on Mr. Uh, director Tebow's amendment to policy ACA dash r I'm just gonna ask, where would you put that in to? Fourth? It would be fourth bullet. Yeah, it would be the fourth bullet basically In a definition. In the definitional section. Yeah. Mr. Uh, Bob, uh, legal opinion on that? Uh, I think it's a restatement of what Colorado law would be perfectly fine. And including the policy. Thank you. So, so, uh, Mr. Bump. So based on Colorado law, the district always, whenever you were referring to guardians in the district, it's, we're always using that definition in District 60. You know, as a matter of practice, we may not be so, uh, specific in asking for credentials in every case. Um, when somebody presents a child to a school, for example, and they say they're a guardian, we're gonna admit the child regardless of whether or not we have paperwork or whatever. But I think for this purpose, so we're talking about the name change and involving a parent or guardian, it's an appropriate definition. Thank you. Alright, any other comments from the board or questions? President Pen, nuncio, uh, let me apologize to, to the board and to Dr. Kimsey. I did go back and review what, uh, Mr. Tebo said, and I was looking at just one document I failed to recognize. It was Amendment one, amendment two, amendment three, amendment four. So I have had the opportunity, uh, to review what he was talking about. I just skipped down to the bottom, bottom, I think what was Amendment four. So I'm, uh, I am fully informed and I apologize for my earlier statement. Thank you. Thank you, director Mayes. Alright, I think we are ready to go to the vote. And just to be clear, we are voting on an amendment to ACA dash R, which states, uh, director Tebo is making a motion to add a definition to the definition section. A guardian is a person that has been granted guardianship or guardianship of the person of a minor under Colorado law, or another state law Enforceful in Colorado. Please call the vote Ms. Patron. Mr. Cisneros Aye. Dr. De Niro? Aye. Judge Mays Aye. Mrs. Peno? Aye. Mr. Tebow? Aye. Alright, the amendment passes. Is there further discussion or amendments to a CA dash R Director? Tebow? Uh, thank you Madam President. Um, I'm gonna offer amendment number two. If you would like, I can explain it a little bit, see if there is a second, or I can wait for a second to explain it. Whichever you choose to, It'd be great if you just go ahead and make a motion and then we'll get a second and then we'll discuss it. Okay. So I move amendment number two. Is there a second? Second. Is there any discussion? Director Tebow. Thank you. Under the, um, bolded paragraph, student chosen name request, I have asked that we strike the very last sentence in its entirety, Which says, following this meeting except as provided below, the principal and or a team or a member of the school team at the principal's discretion will contact the student's guardians. I'm asking that that be stricken and in its place. The language that I am offering is similar, but it really adds a little bit more. It says, following this meeting except as provided below, the principal and or a member of the school team at the principal's discretion will speak with the parents guardians of the student in person. If appropriate failure of a parent guardian to speak with the principal and or a member of the school team without good reason will require that the district's department of student support services be notified for further guidance. So I'm kind of taking it out of the, in the final analysis, it doesn't rest with the principal. If you have a parent or guardian who refuses to speak it, it kicks it up to the district personnel. And the only reason I capitalized the word services is because that was not added in my previous amendment two language, and I just capitalized it. So you could see that I'm adding that word Further. Discussion. Director De Niro, again, I'm gonna ask, uh, for, um, Mr. Bump legal opinion. I think this is a clarifying amendment. As I recall, uh, Mr. Cisneros asked a question about the principal's discretion to where the word was actually placed. It was a little bit confusing. I think this clarifies that. So I would assume that, uh, that it addresses what Mr. Cisneros was concerned about last time as well. I, I wonder if I could have, uh, Mr. Tevo, could you, I I, I'm, I'm struggling with this one again. Could you please give me a rationale again for why this is necessary? And is, is it? I've stated from the very outset that I'm gonna follow the law. The law said that a student shall be given this opportunity. Is this in any way compromising that? Well, let me, um, Let me approach it this way. Um, director Mays, we as a board have approved language, which I think goes beyond the intent of the legislation that we were asked to deal with. So in that respect, um, yes, I think this is all a superfluous process. But if we're going to have the process, the way I'm coming at it at this juncture is if we're going to have the process, let's have a process that really engages parents and guardians. What I'm concerned about is that, um, you may have a parent or guardian who refuses to deal with this matter one way or another, and it will leave the district, the principal in the first instance in the district in the second instance, at an impasse of what to do. And so, rather than rest all the chips on the principal, if you will, the principal has a lot of work to do in a school. And so I'm just suggesting that we alleviate that burden on the principal when you have a parent or guardian that just fails to participate in this process and that it gets bumped up to the district student support services so they can figure out what to do, let the principal do their job, let student services, support services, do their job. Now, I would prefer not to even have to offer this amendment because I think the whole A CAR is not necessary. But because of the action of the board, I think this amendment tries to give some relief to the participants of the process. So, um, I didn't know if that really explains it to your satisfaction, but that's, that's where my thought process is on this amendment number two. Thank you. I, uh, that's what I assumed was, was the intent of it. And, and once again, I, uh, I know I'm, I'm gonna go straight down the line on this. I, I indicated from day one that I was going to follow the law. The law says a student shall, uh, a student shall be allowed to go by their chosen name. And the, the rest of, uh, uh, house bill 24 dash 10 39 provides what the other, uh, Requirements and, and prohibitions are. And, uh, as far as I'm concerned, uh, the way I see this is a student chooses to go by a chosen name. Uh, perhaps the next question is, uh, are we free to tell anyone else about this, including your parents? And that ends the discussion. And so I think anything that goes beyond that and provides well, OO okay, here's the method we're gonna do. Even if you don't agree with it, we're gonna have these other processes in, in place to address, address that, including convening these special groups to determine whether or not a child is, uh, really, uh, uh, mentally or emotionally injured by this. And, uh, so I, I'm just gonna be consistent on it, and I think anything goes, goes beyond the, the, the simplification that I've provided. Whether I'm right or wrong is, is just too far once, once we get to that point. Thank you. Other questions about this amendment? Uh, superintendent Kimsey. Um, I just wanna clarify, I, I am worried that this amendment might have an unintended consequence, uh, when it is saying that a, a team or the principal or member of the school team must speak with the parent or will speak with the parents', gardenings of the student in person, if appropriate, that can actually slow down implementation of the student's chosen name. And that, to me is a violation of the law. 'cause as soon as the child tells me I want to go by X, Y, z, I'm required by law to address that student by that name. So I believe that's an but Mr. Bump, correct me, maybe I'm just, um, I'm not reading that correctly. Um, I do know for us, uh, sometimes our families, uh, struggle with getting to us in person. Um, they may be able to have a phone conference and that kind of thing, but they, they don't, they're not always able to get to us in person in an exigent manner, for lack of a better way of putting it. Director Tebow, Thank you. And I, superintendent, um, kimsey, I, I, I can't say that I disagree with you. Um, again, what I can say is that we as a board have violated the law when we voted on the controlling policy, interpreting the law. And all I'm trying to do is, um, at least in from my standpoint, is to alleviate, um, vagueness uncertainty, things that develop and get it out of the school setting and get it into the administrative setting and get it settled that way. So, um, yeah, I wish I didn't have to offer this amendment, but because we have done what we've done, I think it's important that we at least address this kind of process. And, um, we violated the law, as far as I'm concerned up to now, you know, this is an attempt to try to help take that, the sting out of it to some degree, but I don't know that it cures it as you have stated. Any other questions? Alright, we will now take the vote on amendment two to policy ACA dash R. Please call the vote Ms. Patron. Mr. Cisneros? Aye. Dr. Dero No. Judge Bayes, I, I'm, uh, are, are we on amendment two? I'll tell you what happened is I was just informed that my battery went to sleep or my computer went asleep, and, uh, I'm still awake. Uh, so are we on, was that on amendment? Uh, Mr. Tebow's, uh, second Amendment? Yes, it is Director Mays. Okay. And would, would you please, uh, I hate to be such a pain, but would you please restate the, uh, what's before the board at this time? Absolutely. Uh, director Tebow moved to strike the last sentence in to amend the policy AC a dash R by moving to strike the last sentence in paragraph two, under student chosen name request and substituting the following, following this meeting, except as provided below, the principal and or a member of a school team at the principal's discretion will speak with the parents slash guardians at the of the student in person. If appropriate failure of a parent guardian to speak with the principal and or a member of the school team without good reason will require that the district's Department of Student Support Services be notified for further guidance. Thank you. Uh, my votes no, Mrs. Cio, based on what, uh, superintendent Kimsey shared, I will vote no, Mr. Tebow. Aye. The mo uh, the amendment fails. Director, uh, Tebow, I believe you have another amendment to offer up for AC a dash r. I do. Thank you. With your permission, I'll offer, um, amendment number three. It adds a complete new paragraph, which I have not, um, identified in bold. I I think that could be a matter of, um, just addition if this amendment passes. And, um, I'd ask that there be a second on it, at least for discussion. It's a very important amendment. Do I have a second? Second. Is there any discussion on amendment, uh, three from Director Tebow? Yes, ma'am. Director Tebow. Thank You. And, and thank you to director, um, de Niro for that for the second. Um, in view of what we've done so far as a board, um, I think it's really essential for us to sit back and think about What kind of role we've asked, um, principals, teachers, school, mental health professionals, counselors, other staff members of a school team to undertake, um, as con contemplated in this policy. And my view is that we should hold them harmless. We being the district from any liability and discipline and termination of employment for their good faith actions or participation in complying with this policy. This is a highly charged, um, policy and we're, we're throwing it into the lapse of our, our schools who, who have professionals who are overworked to start with and are now being asked to deal with this very simple chosen name process. And I can just foresee situations where they're going to be under the gun and, and face possible complaints that could lead to their, their termination on a technical basis. And I just don't think that's fair. And I think just with so many other aspects of the law in Colorado, if you're acting in good faith or participating in this process in good faith, you should, you should be held harmless for, um, for losing your job and for, um, any kind of liability that may result from, from, uh, your good faith actions. And so that's what this amendment does. Um, it's, it doesn't have anything to do with, um, the, um, the development of the chosen name process, other than the fact that it protects our professionals at every school level from being either harassed or charged with something. Um, we're going to lose competent, dedicated individuals over these things if we're not careful. And that's why I'm offering this amendment. Um, Mr. Bump, you know, this, this policy that now this is, these are just procedures that are attached to policy a CA and that policy was implemented in 2016. So it's been around, the teachers have been ac ac dash e dash three has been around since 2016. So A-C-A-A-C-A just came in to being, and this is a, the procedures to that, but some of these, um, okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna withdraw that. Nevermind, I'm, I've got confused with the other policies. So my, my, pardon me. But Mr. Bump, I guess while I have you, would you just address this legally as far as, um, you know, aren't the teachers already covered under something already for liability when it comes to something like this? Generally teachers do enjoy governmental immunity, just like other school district employees from tort actions. This would relate, I think, to more of a, uh, a, uh, civil rights type of violation concerning Title IX and the other protections given students, which is not protected by governmental immunity per se. There are other kind of judicial made immunities provided there, but I think the intent here is that to not have people, um, fearful of acting under the policy that they're going to lose their job in some way by making some decision or engaging in really a difficult area. So I think that, um, it's not, this statement is not inconsistent with other provisions provided for teachers in terms of student discipline where they act in good faith. Director De Niro, I would ask, uh, Dr. Kimsey for her comment on this. Um, of course, uh, we, we never want to put our principals, teachers staff in difficult, um, positions. Um, as Mr. Bump just shared, this is a, this is a difficult, uh, issue. Um, I have full faith in our principals, administrators, teachers, staff to make good decisions. Um, I don't have a problem with, um, amendment number three personally, uh, because it, it names staff doing things in good faith. Is this something that we should include in other policies then? If, if this, I, any policy can be construed by anybody as a important policy. Um, not saying anything to negate this policy, but, uh, I would think that principals, teachers, school, mental health professionals, counselors, and other staff members would like to have that, that, uh, comment on a lot of policies. I think this one has come to our attention because there's a lawsuit pending right now about, uh, against school officials for not informing parents. So I think we're taking a stand in saying that implementing this policy, we're gonna stand behind our staff if they're acting in good faith and in compliance with the policy. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions on the amendment on the floor? Well, I, once again, I just think it shows the inconsistency of what we're doing and, and that is, is if we follow the law, we don't need any language about people holding someone else harmless, uh, because they wouldn't be put, they, they wouldn't be placed in the position of having to make a decision that's contrary to the law. And so I I, I definitely do not want our staff, uh, facing legal liability because we as a board are placing them in a position that they don't need to be in. And so, while I, I I, I, I have the same feelings as what I think the intent that Mr. Tebow's offering. This is to protect our staff. If we follow the law, we don't need it. So it's, it's gonna sound inconsistent, uh, when we, when you call for the vote when I vote later. Thank you Director Mays. Alright, any further discussion on amendment three two policy ACA dash r? Do I need to repeat that for anyone? Director Mays or everyone's got it? I'm fine. I'm fine. Alright. Just Don wanna keep moving forward. Alright. Uh, would you please call the vote Ms. Patron? Mr. Cisneros? Aye. Dr. De Niro? Aye. Judge Mays? No, Mr is cio. Aye. Mr. Tebo? Aye. All right. The amendment two AC of a dash R amendment three has passed, has been approved. Alright, director Tebo, I believe you have one more amendment you would like to Yes. Uh, make, Uh, I have on on the sheet amendment number four and, um, Madam President, I'm not, I'm not gonna offer this amendment, um, tonight. Um, as I think through it, and you can see by just how it was prepared, the non capitalized language was that I was, what I presented at the last meeting and to many board members and the superintendent, and then I went through and I tried to, um, add language, which is in capitalized words to, uh, otherwise very difficult situation. Um, but I would, I would say this, um, I think it would behoove us if, if, uh, the board agrees is to, um, ask the district legal counsel to, you know, study this language and to see if perhaps there's better language to achieve the purpose, uh, or if, if, if it needs language. In other words, what I'm, what I'm trying to figure out here is whenever someone is aggrieved by the procedure, the regulation, a CAR in some, in some way, they don't feel that they've had the proper due process or a fair, you know, fair resolution to, to maybe a concern they have. I wanted to, to be sure that the board was able to deal with this issue head on as the board. I, I don't want to be the kind of board member That delegates Controversial things to the superintendent. Um, just for the purpose of doing that. Um, of course we as the board are supposed to give clear direction to the superintendent to run the operations of the district and the superintendent through policy follows that. But at the same time, I think there are some board decisions that in, in creating policy that, that require for the buck to stop with us, basically, is the way I'll put it. Um, but I'm not quite sure this language achieves really the goal that I want to, that I want to achieve. So I'm not gonna offer at that and see if there is a way to even maybe just have the superintendent or another body, um, review, review some of these decisions that might create controversy. Um, so I'm not gonna offer it, but, but I think it's an important piece that we need to, um, that we need to take a look at. So with that, um, I do have one other technical amendment, but I'll, I'll, before I offer that, I'll, I'll leave my thoughts on amendment four, um, that way and see what the board wants to do with it. Thank you. Uh, director de Niro, are you asking for an appeal process? Is that what it is? Yes. Um, ba basically it's, you know, um, for, for example, um, principals act in a certain way based on team involvement, it can on occasion be kicked up to the student support services. Um, maybe there's something to be said to have the superintendent review some, some decisions that had been made. My objective was to, to bypass that and go to the board. But maybe that's not the correct, um, process, you know, to undertake, uh, in, in doing this. But once again, I, you know, I think a lot of this is really unnecessary if we would've just stuck to, you know, simple language in the, uh, initial policy that we adopted. But again, since we're involved in this process, um, maybe we can get some direction as to whether this is a, you know, a good idea or not. Um, I just think there's gonna be a lot of controversy surrounding this and there just needs to be efforts to, to properly deal with, uh, at different stages, deal with, um, issues that people are aggrieved by. Alright, Well, director Tebow, if you said you had a technical amendment you would like to offer up, we could move on to that. That, so it would be like number five? Well, yes, it's not in writing. Um, but one thing I did was, um, when I read through A-C-A-R-I noticed there was a, a couple of times the phrase may include but not limited to may include, but not limited to was used. And I wondered if we could add the word BBE between the word not and the word limited. So it reads may include but not be limited to. I don't know. That's just sort of my, could You draw us or direct us to the paragraph it's in? I know that if you have the handout that was given to us tonight, it's the bottom right you see may include, but not limited to. And there's another spot in there above that, and I just can't find it tonight. Um, but there's also another spot, but I'm still trying to find it. It's on the lower right hand side of A CAR. Okay. The second paragraph. Well, it's at the very bottom. Well, it's right here in each May. Okay, well then it's at the second paragraph where the, yeah, there you go. Thank you for pointing that out. So it's in two places and I don't know, um, that's just a drafting style. Um, adding the word be between the word not and limited so it reads may not, may include but not be limited to. I mean, it's technical and it doesn't even have to be an amendment. If someone finds that it's better drafting to insert that, I think that could be done by interline. Mr. Bump, is that something we could just add? Thank, I think that's a good suggestion. Grammatical, Great. Santa Claus is gonna be good to you tonight. And I, and I still am hoping that we give some direction to our legal, to the district's legal counsel on this, uh, amendment for, which I think is important, but which I don't think is, is drafted, um, as artfully as it could be. And I'm not quite so sure that I can, but I, I think I'm just asking for some assistance on that, whether it's a, a worthy amendment and what kind of language could be utilized to achieve some, uh, appellate result. Thank you, director Tebow. So I think we've made, I, do we have any more amendments to ACA dash R or any more discussion? So we have, we are now voting on the amended policy. Uh, lemme just reread that. Um, director Tebow move that the board of education approves the new regulation ACA dash R as amended student request to use a chosen name on second and final reading as presented in the December 10th, 2020 board board materials. No, I, I didn't, I, I, yeah, like I put that in there. I'm so sorry. Let me reread that. Uh, I knew as amended that the Board of Education approves the new regulation A a dash R student request. Use a chosen name procedures on second and final reading as presented in the December 10th, 2024 board materials. Does that clarify it? Second. Oh, is there any more debate? Please call the vote. Ms. Patron. Mr. Cisneros? Aye. Dr. De Niro? Aye. Judge Mayes? No. Mrs. Pen, nuncio. Aye. Mr. Tebo? No, The policy passes. Ours approved. We are now onto the final item under 10.0 policy, um, that we'll be taking a, we may be taking action on this evening, which is new exhibit ACA dash e student request to use a chosen name, which is the form to be used with board policy. ACA a This is a second reading. May I have a motion please? I move that the board of education. Oops. I move that the board of education approves a new exhibit, ACA dash e student request to use a chosen name form on second and final reading as presented in the December 10th, 2024 board materials. Is there a second? I second. Is there any debate or amendments to this policy? Director? Tebow. Thank you. I, I have, um, statements that I would like to make, but I also have, um, a couple of amendments, but I noticed that you had an amendment as well and my amendments, one of my amendments theoretically touches on your amendment. So I don't know exactly how you, you prefer to handle that. Um, whether you want to go first or me, I don't care. Director Tebo, go ahead. You go right ahead. Okay. The one that I think, um, relates to your amendment that you passed out, if I understand correctly, my, my amendment is also in the, the box advising giving advisements, and there's currently three bullets. The third bullet has the word consistently. I confirm that the student consistently identifies and the way that the law reads that we're trying to implement, it does not require any consistency. It just requires the request to use a chosen name. So I think the word consistently needs to be stricken. And that would be my amendment. Are there other comments on Director Tebow's amendment to policy? ACA dash e But, uh, director Tebow, have you made, did you make, did you make a motion? I did. I moved that And we have it and we second it. Okay. Nobody seconded it. I'm sorry to get a little, a little tired here. Alright. Um, for me, I like the word consistently because to me that just, oh, we did get a second. Okay. Do we have a second? All right. The motion fails. Are there other amendments? Well, I have another amendment, but it doesn't relate to that box. It relates to a different box. So I don't know if you want to use, do your amendment or not. 'cause yours relates to the box that I was Oh, okay. I mean, it's up to you. I Sure, absolutely your discretion. We can, we can absolutely go ahead and, uh, I can offer up my amendment as well. I would like to move to amend policy AC a dash e the form by adding an additional bullet. I'm just gonna add one to the box that says, please read the important advisement below. Before signing the bullet, I would like to add states, I understand that the student may not submit a subsequent non-legal name change request for at least 90 school days. Is there a second? Alright. Looks, Looks like the motion failed. Alright, director Tebow, you have another one to offer? Uh, yes. And it's on the second page where, um, oh goodness. Let's see. Um, it's the box that says Parent Guardian has not signed, and I don't have specific language to offer, but I have a con conforming amendment where it would say, um, some words would be inserted to denote instances where one or more parent or guardian parents or guardians refuse to sign. I think right now it, it talks about, um, it assumes that parents are gonna sign Director Tebow. Are you talking about um, what was in the, our draft that we had before. Previously we had a box, um, that said Parent guardian declines to sign so that we would have a record of that. They, that may, they were declining because they didn't agree with it, didn't mean their student wouldn't be called by that name at school, but they just not, didn't agree with it. They might. And so are you asking if we are No, no, no. I, the word decline and refuse are in my mind important words. Refusing to sign could be different in my mind than declining to sign. Um, and that may be just a matter of, of a viewpoint, um, interpretation. But, um, as it reads now in that box it says, I attest that this student request to use a chosen name form was not provided to and or discussed with the student's parent guardian. Due to my determination that circumstances existed to cause me to reasonably believe that notifying the student's parent guardian at this time would put the student at risk of abuse or neglect, that's all fine. I have contacted district's student support services, and, um, department of Human Services as appropriate, which is fine. I'm suggesting that language be put in there to say or to denote instances where parents have refused to sign some kind of language. Um, memorializing that fact. And I don't have the exact language, but this is sort of an amendment in concept. Um, if, if you would allow it, if, if you wouldn't allow it, then you know, that's, You know, that Would be your ruling. But, Um, Do we have a second? Alright. It looks like the motion failed. The, The amendment failed to the motion. Alright. Are there any, is there more discussion on AC a dash E or any other amendments? Alright, I guess we will go ahead and please call the vote Ms. Patron. Mr. Cisneros Aye. Dr. De Niro? Aye. Judge Mays, judge Mayes, Oh, can you hear me now? Yes, we can. Director Mayes. Uh, okay. Uh, once again, apologize for the long distance snafus, but, uh, we're obviously getting down to the last portion of this mess that we started several months ago. Uh, by, uh, deciding we didn't, or at least the majority of us decided we didn't like, uh, the way, uh, 24, 10 39 was drafted. And so we decided we were gonna make the changes that we, uh, felt, uh, were necessary to do whatever. I don't know what that, whatever is. All I know is the law says what the law says. Uh, I was persuaded very much by the testimony, uh, that was presented on the harm that could happen to, to, to students, uh, by requiring to do something that the ACT does not require them to do. Uh, I'm convinced that that harm is real. Uh, I have always said that I will never support anything where I believe even one student, if even one student feels they are not welcome or they are being persecuted in D 60, that I would vote against her. And we've gone through this, uh, sausage making process it seems like for a while. And I still come back to the very first thing when we started this discussion is the law is the law. That's what it says. And now we're placing burdens, uh, on these students, causing them even more angst, even more angst than they were before. And so I am going to be consistent throughout this and anything at all that places our students in fear for their mental or physical wellbeing and feel that they're not welcome in D 60, I will, uh, vote against every single time. And that's what I'm gonna do with this particular portion of the chosen, uh, name debacle we've gotten into. Thank you. So my answer is, I guess if you're asking for my vote, my vote is no. Mrs. Cio Aye. Mr. Kibo, no. Looks like the policy has passed. We will now move on to 11.0 approval of the consent agenda. May I have a motion please? Uh, director de Niro, I move that the Board of Education approve the consent agenda items two through seven as presented in the December 10th, 2024 board materials. Is there a second? I second. Is there any discussion? Scene none. Please call the vote. Ms. Patron. Mr. Cisneros? Aye. Dr. De Niro? Aye. Judge Mays Aye. Mrs. Pen, nuncio. Aye. Mr. Tebow? Aye. We're now on to 12.0 Action items. We have three items this evening. The board will need to take action on the first two action items involved, the expulsion of students expulsion. And I was going to just combine these together. Uh, Mr. Bump, if that's all right. Um, this involves the expulsion of student number 1 6 0 5 9 4 in the expulsion of student number 1 6 8 8 0 0. May I have a motion please? So moved. Is there a second? Second. Is there any discussion? See none. Please call the vote. Ms. Patron. Mr. Cisneros? Aye. Dr. De Niro? Aye. Judge Mays Aye. Mrs. Pen, nuncio. Aye. Mr. Tebo? Aye. All right. The next item we need to take action on this evening is the certification of the 2025 mill levies and 2024 property tax collection. May I have a motion please? So long, Sorry. Is there a second? Second. Is there any discussion? Director Tebow? Thank you. Um, previous to our meeting, I had, um, asked, uh, our superintendent that, um, that perhaps we could take a minute for a refresher on, uh, mill Levy. And I do appreciate, uh, as from my perspective, the Department of Education Mill Levy certification form. Um, and I just wonder maybe if you can just walk through that. Um, in particular, some of the things that I sort of need refreshed on would be how the, um, tax increment financing, you know, fits into this, um, uh, process and how abatements fit into the process. Ultimately, if I'm reading this correctly, our mill levy is actually reduced from last year. Um, and our, um, bond redemption fund mill levy is, is kind of floating a little higher than it was last year, but all in all, um, I think if I'm interpreting this correctly, our total mill levy is, is just a little less than it was last year, but I just wanted to be sure that we're refreshed on sort of the, the mechanism that we're going through. Well, you are correct. Um, the process is involved, um, uh, first beginning with the county assessor's office, they sent us a, a final, um, calculation, um, say, um, detailing our gross assess valuation at one billion three hundred seventy four thousand five hundred thirty five thousand 180 7. Um, from that is tax your tiffs. Okay? Those are deductions, um, because of things that have been brought online. In other words, the, the construction things are complete that were part of the agreed TIFs that we would, um, turn over to para and, and the other, uh, entities that went up $45 million. So the TIFs are a deduction from your property tax assessed valuation. Okay? So that left us with a net assessed value of one 1,000,250,000, et cetera. Um, the abatements, what happens is, uh, generally they clear those property taxes, um, from usually past years. And so you have the opportunity to, um, increase your mill levy slightly to try to recapture those funds. Um, and that's the purpose of the abatement. The mill levy by statute is 27 mills for property taxes. And a mill is a one 1000th of a dollar. So you multiply your assessed net assessed value times, uh, 27 divided by uh, a thousand, and that becomes your new property tax assessed, um, valuation, which for this, um, this current year is 33,765,000, I think 598 can't really see my numbers. So with that said, that's the amount of property taxes that will be assessed just related to, um, the school funding. Okay. That's part of our total program funding. Okay. The, the next section is our bond redemption. And we can as a district, uh, assess up to $19.5 million in, um, bond redemption funds. At this point in time, I increased the, um, bond redemption fund mills slightly from 13.7 to 14.169. Um, the reason for that is I need to, um, build a little more capacity in the fund as this year's bond. Uh, total bond payments are over $18 million. So we can make up the difference between what's assessed at 17 million plus interest, um, to try to maintain our bond fund at a stable value. And, and this is a, a year, which is an outlier, um, for the bond, um, expenditures to be over 18 million and then they'll start receding back down. Um, not sure why that is exactly just how the calculations worked out. So the, the bond redemption fund, that mill levy floats up and down and of course with all the different laws that were, um, uh, enacted, you know that that costs our property tax valuation to really drop. So that's where we are. Um, total, um, property tax assessments is over 51 million for this next coming year. That's all funds. And so that's the gist of the conversation. Um, our total mill levy is 41.402. So it's up, uh, actually down slightly. It's down 0.065 of a mill. And that's my story. Yeah. Sticking to it. Any questions? Alright, Any further discussion about the mill levies or mill levies or property tax collection? Alright, please call the vote Ms. Patron. Mr. Cisneros Aye. Dr. De aye. Judge Mays? Aye. Mrs. Peno? Aye. Mr. Tibo? Aye. We are now on 13.0 board discussion and recommendations for the next agenda. Does a board director have anything they would like to discuss and or make recommendations for items to be included in the next board agenda? Alright, looks like we don't have any this evening. We'll now move on to 14.0 announcements. First we'll look at coming events, upcoming events. December 23rd, 2024 through January 3rd, 2025 will be the winter break, January 14th, 2025 at 2:00 PM Will be a special board meeting here at the administrative services center in the Arapaho Room. And finally, January 28th, 2025 at 5:30 PM will be a regular school board meeting here at the administrative services center in the Arapaho Room. And we also have one announcement this evening. Uh, the designation of places for posting notice of meetings as provided by Colorado Law. The designated location for posting notice of Pueblo School District number 60 Board of Education meeting shall be on the district's website at www.pueblodsixty.org. All right, looks like if there's no further business this evening, may I have a motion to adjourn? So moved. Oh, uh, director Mays. No, no, I'm, I'm ready to go home. Director DeNiro, before we close. Thank you. I'm raising my hand. Um, I just wanna wish everyone a happy holiday. I, this board won't convene again until the year of, uh, 2025. Uh, appreciate all of your help and support, uh, for the meetings, uh, to be held timely. And, um, again, um, happy holidays to everyone. Is there a second? Second to the Happy Holidays or second to the ajour? A second. Ill second them Both. Okay. Alright. Is there any discussion? Please call a vote. Ms. Patron. Mr. Cisneros Aye. Dr. De Niro? Aye. Judge Mays Aye. Ms. Pen, nuncio Aye. Mr. Tibo? Aye. So I will also say thank you for joining us this evening and I wanna wish each of you a wonderful holiday and a happy, happy New Year with family and friends and we will look forward to seeing you in 2025. I.