##VIDEO ID:MtXhfNn71Wc## e e e e e e e e e it's four o'clock I'll call this meeting of the putam County Planning Commission to order got a few little preliminary things we have to go through so bear with us this is a public hearing and we're the putham County Planning Commission where the designated local planning Agency for the county is prescribed in chapter 163 of the Florida Statutes and we function under the authority of article 11 and 12 of the putam County Land Development code the primary responsibility of the commission is to serve as an advisory body to hear and make recommendations to the board of County Commissioners on matters related to provisions of and proposed amendment to the putham county comprehensive plan and the putam County Land Development code the members of this board will review each application and make a recommendation to the board of County Commissioners now normally we would have that meeting would be scheduled for December 24th but that's a holiday it's a County holiday the County Commission has not yet indicated whether they're going to cancel that meeting change the date of it or whatever so we're tentatively saying this will go before the board of County Commissioners on January the 11th 2025 but stay tuned we don't know the answer to that yet procedurally we will call each Case by name and number a member of the the staff will then briefly explain to us the nature of each request we will then take any comments from the applicant or their representative followed by any public comments concerning the request we ask that you please direct all comments or statements to the board and not to other people in the audience before speaking we will ask you to come forward be recognized come to the lecton and give us your name and address after all persons wishing to speak have been heard we will entertain a motion from the board this motion will be voted on by the board members and become our recommendation to the board of the BCC date that's going to be tentative is January 14th I'm sorry I meant to say 14th that's okay thank you Zach you're welcome you have to keep me straight all applicant have a right to withdraw their request at any time during the application process no cases have been withdrawn for today if the applicant chooses to have these cases heard at a later date then they will be read vertis in accordance with the Land Development code before we go into our first case I need to ask members of the board if there have been any expar Communications concerning does anyone have a conflict of interest concerning either of these cases today no okay then at that point Miss gazelle I'll turn it over to you for LDC 24 000000001 thank you for the record Jennifer gazwa planning and development services this application is a text Amendment to the Land Development code the applicant is kimley horn the agent is Mark Shelton the text Amendment proposes to amend the putam County Land Development code by adding solar Farms as use by right in the Agriculture and agriculture estate zoning districts as well as the addition of a new section 45-21 defining solar farms and its standards Florida statue 163 32053 specifically States a solar facility shall be a permitted use in all agriculture land use categories in a local government comprehensive plan and all a cultural zoning districts within the unincorporated area and must comply with the setback and Landscape buffer area criteria for other similar uses in the agriculture District maintaining consistency between Florida Statutes Land Development codes and the comprehensive plan is the main goal and responsibility of Staff the proposed text Amendment will bring our Land Development code into compliance with Florida statute 163 3205 staff recommends approval of the requests to amend the Land Development code as the request is consistent with Florida Statutes and consistent with other comprehensive plan goals objectives and policies there any questions of Staff yes ma'am yes sir do the U the uh all we're doing is we're saying that that is a permitted use but the solar form is not actually it does not have have to be zoned a is that correct it has to be zoned solar Farms all we're doing is is including solar solar facilities as a permitted use in the a zoning District they could be located in other zoning designations though okay and by right so we don't have to come back and and re-approve anything that is correct as we have in the past okay but if it if they buy a commercial property can work in commercial as well correct doesn't exempt them and say that everything you get in solar forms is actually a correct correct okay thank you no it's not that is part of the uh this so anything related to storage distribution generation of a public utility owned by a public utility would fall into this statutory allowance and thus benefit from the change to Our Land Development code so if Mr Hodge owns property and he wants to develop a private um uh solar facility for the generation of power for his profit then he would be subject to additional permitting and uh entitlement requirements but if FPL Clay Electric simol any of those guys want to create a power generation facility they're parked into this this statutory allowance okay so this full full property thank you Justin you have a question I do have a question and I understand this from a conversation that I had with Zach earlier that all we're doing is being consistent with the statute which says it has to be in we have to allow it an agricultural zoning my question would be in the staff recommendation you guys refer to a thing there that says uh that those Community Phil facilities and services are allowed up to 5% in the total area within the comprehensive plan blah blah blah how do we how do we monitor or oversee that only 5% of that property my my concern is that we're losing agricultural property and all the a property around here becomes solar Farms what is our what is our stop measure for to prevent that from happening I mean obviously you guys have referenced the 5% how do we how do we police that so first off the the portion of policy that you're referring to would include any Community facility or Services fire stations Wastewater plants water treatment plants so on and so so forth the way that we would monitor that is to you know review it at the development Review Committee stage which we've been lucky enough to work with kimley horn on uh three or four of these solar facilities since I've been here and they provide us with um crazy plans I mean very detailed plans of what's going on the truth of the matter is I'm not so sure that that policy would apply for these solar facilities because the statute says that we have to allow them in the agriculture zoning District it doesn't say subject to additional limitations based off of the local jurisdiction's comprehensive plan so I believe that statute is giving them cart blanch to exceed our 5% requirement for Community facilities I agree because the statute is pretty clear but I think that we ought to make a recommendation we ought to come up with something that limits how many solar Farms can be put in puton County I I would I would think that that would be kind of a common sense approach to that because just because they have the ability to be in the egg doesn't mean that there shouldn't be any existing rules you know what I mean like just because they're zoned EG the statute says they're allowed to be an EG just because they can have it in there doesn't mean that that is the only rule that applies there should be we should have something in the county so that we don't lose all our Farm property to these guys coming in putting up solar Farms everywhere so I definitely appreciate what y'all are saying but this statute is due to legislative efforts because rural communities were trying to capitalize off of solar facilities to develop these solar facilities in these rural areas and I understand that but at the same time the solar facilities only have to pay 80% of their uh tangible property tax and therefore we're not getting anything other than we're getting a solar form and it doesn't provide any jobs or anything for putam County people and I don't think that that's the best thing for us to do in all of our a a land so I think that somewhere along the line we have to come up with something and it may be the at the County Commissioners we need to recommend recommend something that says okay this is what percentage we want in putam County we don't want everything in putam County to be a solar farm I think you as a board definitely have the latitude to make that recommendation um I know that this particular what we're doing here we got to take care of it first and then we can make a recommendation to the County Commissioners for some I think the the bottom line is we can't have a rule a policy that's more striden than what the state has I think that's what Zach can can I make a Qui can I make a comment I've checked in the Sol F before I sold my farm it has to be near a high tension line it just you just can't put it in the middle of nowhere and there's no facilities to get that power to the high tension line they're not going to run wires two three miles down the road to get to a high tension line so it is limited well I know that when they built the one in floor home that was an issue to get the easements to run the wires to the high tension house right and they ended up getting them uh through uh other means they didn't it wasn't a friendly takeover well I understand they got it I checked on my deal so I knew right what was going on I could do it but I didn't qualify for the 100-year flood plan that's that's the only thing when I did looked into it at the time and that's when it was just starting to go well I think there's if there's a will there's a way they'll figure out if they it's cost effective for them to build 100 acres or so they'll figure out how to get the power I think that's not my issue right now as I understand it there is some sort of function that limits it to 5% now that may be a a fact of who is interpreting that rule but am I am I correct in that there is a limitation in place as of right now that if the Border County Commission so chose to enforce that the planning is only would somehow be able to number one recognize the current percentage of coverage we have as it relates to facilities and put into place something that when we get to that threshold this or this board can make a rem recommendation or the County Commissioners are able to say we've reached 5% threshold we recommend against development of stuff I mean there there is there is something in place for that as of right now depending on interpretation correct well so currently there's no entitlement process that the board would have to decide on to allow a new solar facility to come through it's all done administratively through DRC and different agency permitting requirements um I think if if it got to the point where we were approaching that threshold um it would probably turn into a conversation between the County's legal council and the solar providers legal counsel as to whose interpretation supersedes I mean this would be very similar to me telling you you can't build a house on a residential property for whatever reason I mean statute already gives power companies you got you guys do tell us that we can't build on stuff because of density requirements or or long string of other things that are limitations to why you can or can't build on there's not just you know this what this would be the equivalent what we're trying to do here just accepting that into the Land Development code because of statutory requirements is not a one line as long as a you can build the farm you can build the solar farm so there would it only makes sense that there's additional limitations of that I just am concerned that and even and and I'm okay with it occurring at the at the office level not at the level so as long as there's some sort of review that when we get to that 5% that like like if I were to come to you now and say what's the current percentage of agricultural property that's covered by Community facilities and services I'm assuming you could with some research determine we are at 3 and a half% or whatever that number may be I just don't want I want to make sure that it's that we're doing it I want to make sure that we are that is coming to the attention of so that we not five years from now go oh well we're 10% covered in putam County with facility stuff when beyond what we should be yes sir so as long as it's occurring at an office you know administrative level or or review level um I mean I think we we kind of have to go with what's going on today but I just want to reiterate that we need some sort of control so that everything doesn't go the way of soul Farms we still have that Mr Perry could you please clarify the statute the statute and tell us how that relates to this 5% yes ma'am I have to look it up Florida stat Florida statue is what this is a Florida statute we're having to right right it was just it was just a on line thing it says that you know solar Farms are allowed in all agriculturals which I understand that I mean I got that part of it I didn't interpret any of that statute to mean that you have to allow them just as a as a condition of zoning you have to let them in there but not just because it's zoned EG we have to let a solar farm be built Miss re or Miss fulin would you like to come forward and and address some of these questions we have these ladies are from kimley horn um who brought this forward to putham County and if you just give us your your name and address we'd appreciate it uh yes thank you through the chair of the commission Kristen Reed I'm here on behalf of Mark Shelton with kimley horn my address is 12740 Grand Bay Parkway West Jacksonville Florida 32258 thank you um and it we'll say staff did an excellent job presenting um the request the text Amendment again it simply takes what the statute says shall be done to incorporate solar Farms as permitted uses in all the agricultural categories within the unincorporated area it also creates a section 45201 that adds definition that talks about the other facilities or infrastructure that would be part of the solar farm and then it provide standards for sets and buffers which are consistent with the way they've been done done in the past on solar Farms that were done as puds because they're not addressed I think there's a distinction between the word shall and may if the statute had said maybe you know located on agricultural Zone lands it's one thing but we shall approve it on agricultural L is a different connotation I Mr Perry can you address that Madam chair I'm not really sure what the question is but the the word shall is indicative of it you will means you will yeah you don't it's not a option to May and no option there but um as far as your other question ma'am about the 5% can you can you help me out with that just a little bit Mr Mars you want to explain that I I was referring to uh the second paragraph on page five of the staff recommendation uh just above the staff recommendation um they refer to agriculture areas shall be allowed up to 5% of its total land area without comprehensive plan Amendment and I don't know what section of the Land Development code or uh comprehensive plan are taking that out of but OB was just going based off of that that's the way our current comp plan reads isn't it that's correct so does this not generate a need to amend the comp plan I'm getting rusty with my recollection of the comp plan line for line like I used to um I'm fairly certain when we had um our comp plan revised back in 21 uh we included language allowing um passive solar generation facilities within the future land use designation thought we did too could this be an old statute or an old comp plan we're looking at because it clearly says that um the location scale and intensity of community facility ities and services types 1 2 and three shall be compatible with the overall character of the existing and future development of the area Community facilities and services acreage in each district distinct in each distinct agricultural area shall be allowed up to 5% of its total land area without a comp plan amendment to designate the area as public facility future land use and I really think Madam chair that the community facilities type one two or three are those water plants Wastewater plants the the um uses that the county operates and maintains to provide services to the residents I don't know that um solar facilities fall into those types of facilities they are further defined within our comprehensive plan um but again I don't recall exactly that definition well I think the last par sentence of that paragraph passive energy generation projects solar or wind are permitted so you know we've already got that as a separate statement so it's possible that that 5% deals with those more intense uses of water plants sewer plants um but I think getting back to the root of Mr Morris's question was who whose job is that interpretation and where do we draw the line as to whether or not solar facilities or Community Services is that correct yeah that that's correct I mean that's that's where we're going with this I don't I to be hon with I don't have any problem with the the the language change in there as long as there's some sort of oversight so when they we put this in there it's all of a sudden whether or not they can build a solar farm on a piece of a property gets out of our hands it goes to the administrative level they're going to approve it but at some point staff is going to approve beyond that 5% if they're not tracking it or if there's not an issue brought up about it so we're losing a level of oversight by adding this language which I don't mind because the statute clearly says that we need to but just because we're allowing it in a doesn't mean that that is unrestricted free use of solar farms in a there should be significantly more questions that need to be answered when it says shall I think it does mik but for the same re for the same reason in that for the same reason in that statutory language that it says it has to abide by setbacks uh would resp that that clearly said that clearly details that there are additional parameters besides it just being located in a property right that they have to meet before they can build that I just want to make sure we have some sort sort of oversight on that Mike would you and Zach get together sometime and look at the comp plan this section of the comp plan and see if that 5% applies to solar Farms or to other types of community facilities and see if we need to make any any amendments to that part of the comp plan well we can certainly do that that makes sense Zach um anything you would like to add thank you chair just uh my reading of it is the passive energy generation projects are called out as a separate use in that land use category so they are differentiated from the community service facilities um but something for staff to really consider an interpret okay and this is something you're bringing forward for counties that are within your service area or within the northeast Florida regional service area or I'm just interested in how this came about uh through the chair sorry I've been with Kim Horn for three weeks oh okay um I've been planning for 24 years um so it's it's not new to me um I don't know what other projects they've done but we're just trying to help facilitate because we've done some other projects in putam county and had to do them through a PUD before the statute was changed and this just makes it easier for you all and for staff and to comply with the state law is to allow them by right provide parameters that are consistent with the way that you've approved them through the puds before um and just help clean up the code but you understand it does not have to be zoned a no to be a solar form through the chair correct um this is just compliance with State Statute so if it's in another District another um land use category then certainly there would need to be another um process whether it's a PUD or some special use permit to do that depends on how our comp plan reads on that too so staff again if you and Mike would get together and and kind of uh flush this out and let us know if we need to make any changes in the comp plan other than this and this is LDC okay I understand that the questions and I understand the fact that we we have quite a few solar Farms already in putham County um and you know it can be an issue is is the board ready to make a recommendation we haven't going over the changes well we need public comment too don't we oh okay we went over the changes well I mean I've read got and do you have any other questions for staff about the okay I do have one question for staff about the process because I think normally this would be brought up by staff as a change versus by Florida Power and Light correct or kimley horn yeah kimley horn for representing yeah uh text amendments can be staff or um constituent initiated okay now we've had a lot of Staff of text amendments that have come from um citizens all right is go ahead have a question um I was just thinking um I'm sure we have someone that gets the statutes that affect us and would put together those recommendations at some point in time if this hadn't come it would come up eventually if it wasn't here today yes ma'am um in fact if you'll recall a few months ago when we had um Robert Jordan from the northeast Florida Regional Council here going over our evaluation and appraisal report that was part of that process to see what statutory language has changed and needs to be reflected in our comprehensive plan and he didn't have anything to add for solar facilities because we had already covered it in our 2021 rewrite right and that's the LDC hasn't been done yet so it didn't reflect in the LDC so that yes to a degree but so it wasn't in Our Land Development code verbatim that that solar facilities are allowed in the a zoning District we've just been following the legislation and statute and and allowing them in a zoning District without any sort of um entitlement process or or any dealings with FPL I got a question does and this is for our attorney does the language and the stat statute would it prevent us from having the the language introduced in um via a special use permit instead of just straight by right without any do it in effect that we would be bringing it down to let's say just for example where we have on page two in the redlined uh section there where it says solar Farms as under the use category in a district in section c instead including in section D use that requires special use permit still allowed an EG but requiring a special use permit would the statute uh would we be compliant with the statute in that with that approach let me read the statute again Justin a solar facilities shall be permitted a permitted use in all agricultural land use categories in a local government comprehensive plan and all agricultural zoning districts within an unincorporated area and must comply with the setback in landscape buffer area criteria for other similar uses in the agricultural District I I got that but nothing in that statute to me says that if we were to add the stipulation of requiring a special use permit that would be something I think Z answer well I think that the fact that it says a facility shall be permitted well with all due respect I directed that question at the attorney I'm relying on his opinion of it no I agree sh means shall um unrestricted with with no no criteria I would I would uh you know caution the board to go too far a field uh from what our what the actual petition is and what we're supposed to do with that and what might occur in the fut future but uh I mean just looking at the Statue it seems relatively or very clear to me as to what it actually means and what and what we can and what can be done under this statute does that make any sense to you at all Mr Morris I mean yeah we can keep going back to that right and I I feel like the confus the confusion is the difference between shall be allowed in EG versus is shall be allowed unrestricted in a that that's that's I feel like that's the two the two angles we're discussing here I'm not sure what to tell you other than you know we do have a staff that we do have a development Review Committee that certainly um has very qualified people looking at it and trying to determine uh where they need to go with this and uh and I'd once again encourage you to to try and uh if we can uh focus on what our what we're trying to do right now I got it but this is just a kind of a this is the only time we get to talk about these things is when they come up as a topic and so granted we're kind of straying away from the exact point of of your thing but it has to do with the bigger picture of what's Happening Here and so um yeah it's just part of the conversation Mr Perry I want to come back to one more thing anytime a state statute says you shall do something is it not true that a local government does not have any leeway to do anything more restrictive than what the statute says to do something more restrictive or less you can or L restrict less restrictive you can't do anything well the the the language is clear well yes but the statute like you said it is clear uh here so whatever you're going to do on a local level you have to adhere to this right I mean does that make any sense have to agree with it no you don't have to agree with it but you got to do it but I can promise you every piece of agricultural land in putam county is not going to be a solar farm no I can promise you that not located it'll be more development I don't disagree with what you're saying but those lines go across the river and they go all the way through 9 Mile and right on there's a lot of area that those lines cover oh yeah M and different companies a lot of solar Farms could be but your developer is going to pay more for the land than a solar farm I can promise you is there anything else that any other questions or any other discussion before we can wrap this up and make a recommendation we just need public comment Madam chair are there any public comments about this I didn't have any speaker cards or or against this particular change in the Land Development code okay at that point do I have a recommendation from the board oops um I will move that we approve the um um changes to the Land Development code as um Amendment to the Land Development code LDC 24- 000000001 as it is consistent with the goals objectives and policies of our comprehensive plan and the state requires us to do it so I'll second I've got a proper motion and a second on the floor is there any further discussion hearing none I'll call for the question all those in favor please signify by saying I I all those opposed like sign I okay thank you for your time thank you for being here and welcome to kimley Horn we probably be seeing you again yes hopefully thank you our next case is Rez 24- 00000010 um um who's up for this Jennifer yes ma'am okay thank you again for the record Jennifer Cassel and development services so application is to rezone agriculture estate and residential one to all residential one the applicant is Thomas and Lori Leonard their agent is Jennifer Wilson his parcel is 3.74 Acres loated at 126 Lake Koma Point Road in perona park the purpose of the request is to make the land consistent have reduced setbacks and uniform requirements the property owners would like to build a new residential single family home utilizing the requirements and regulations of the resal 1 R1 zoning designation the parcel is approximately 7 6.74 Acres however approximately 5.08 acres are submerged lands according to the NWI Wetlands layer and the FEMA flood zone layer on the gis reference map the lands do appear to contain wetlands and is located within the FEMA flood zone a feema flood zone a is a special flood Hazard area before being purchased the subject parcel was two separate Parcels one was zoned agriculture estate while the other was residential 1 R1 the AE zoning District maintains a front setback of 40 the sides in the rear are 20 ft the R1 zoning District maintains a front setback of 25 ft 10 ft on the side and 20t on the rear Waterfront setbacks for either zoning district is 50 ft and the vegetative Wetland buffer for either zoning district is a minimum of 25 ft should the applicant's request be approved the parcel will be eligible for building permits to construct a single family residents adhering to the regulations for the residential one R1 zoning District additional considerations may be requested by the property owner for approvals of variances or special use permits as needed it shows your aerial view future land use the [Music] zoning blood [Music] zones and wetlands staff recommends approval of the request to amend the zoning map from Agriculture state AE and residential 1 R1 to residential 1 R1 as the amendment is consistent with the adopted goals objectives and policies of the putam county comprehensive plan and is compatible with existing development in the area questions of staff I have a question has this house already been built there is an existing house there um I believe the applicant is here I'm not sure if their plan is to demo that one and build a new one I think that that's the plan but I would refer to the applicant on that okay um any other questions of Staff okay hi good evening commission you'll have to forgive me my voices kind of going in and out uh Jennifer Wilson 4201 Bay Meadows Road Jacksonville floor 32217 yes to answer your question there is an existing house there now the land owner plans to demo that house and build a new one for his family to enjoy for Generations down the line okay anything else you'd like to add that yeah ma'am I think they covered it all thank you much J for for sta report anything any questions of of the agent from board seems like a no-brainer okay thank you very much are there any people in the audience who would like to speak either for or against please come forward and state your name and address I'm Josh Davis I live at 121 uh Lake Cel Point Road UHC me Lake Cel Street Road so I live uh two doors down and I'm okay I don't know what the the plan was the detail was is receed notification I am okay as long as there's a single family home there I would be uh concerned if there's more than one single family home there's any kind of subdivision of the lot our road is in atrocious condition is horrible it is unpassable about after about 18 months it's totally unpassable I personally spent money to fix the road on several occasions and uh there's I don't know what the governance says to get roads fixed around here I don't something to do with the county to or for person responsible but there are very few of us that actually maintain the road the number of people that live on the road so I would be concerned with any additional population our road has also gone from Mostly residents that are there part-time uh through a weekend or vacation type homes to small perent residents so the residents there's a lot more traffic so the road deteriorates much faster now so just is that a private road I don't know staff yes Madam chair it is a private road to be maintained by the property owners of that that road thank you but I agree your road is a a problem anyone else would like to speak either for or against this particular application okay hearing none I'll bring it back to the board I'll move for approval of Rez 24001 0 as it it's consistent with the goals heers have a proper motion do I have a second second okay Joey we got you there all righty um we have a proper Motion in a second on the floor is there any further discussion hearing none I call for the question all in favor please signify by saying I I chair votes I all opposed thank you um this has been approved and we go forward from here is there any old business to bring before the board at this time is there any new business I I think we need to look into uh limiting the solar farms in puon County can I second that M chair I did here that part of that was commercial that the inside where all the wires went even though it a small 5 Acres or something that's where all the brains are where all the wires go I heard that they had to pay commercial on that and it was okay I mean everything around it was EG but the middle every many acres was actually commercial least we got a little bit more but she says no no ma'am I mean I don't know anything about it having to be a for that distribution portion be commercial that that corrected I don't know commercial I mean it is commercial it's the whole thing 400 acres is commercial might have C the tax appraisers office for that to get that information that's not in his Pur I wouldn't think well no when I checked in you pay more than EG but it's not top top of the line it does go up if you do a solar farm it does does go up not no I mean that's what so the tax the property appra exemp that out of the right but that's what they call right and that that could be a confusing point I don't think the State of Florida did us any favors no that happens uh do is that just something you're you're saying casually Mr Hancock or did you want to put that in the form of a motion to make a recommendation to the County Commission or I think yes I think that we ought to have some sort of board that comes together and says okay we want to identify how much land we're actually going to allow to be solar farms in putam county and put a put a lemon on it I just don't think that they're doing us they don't do us any favors I mean they don't do anything for put count they bring in a lot of workers at the beginning and then that's it and then we still got to look at the the 20-year plan of what we're going to do when these panels go bad and they have to dispose of them they don't have a proper disposal for them yet and uh I think that that needs to be addressed so are you putting that in the form of a motion the other thing that I believe is you got these big companies coming in and buying and putting in these solar forms and then if they decide later and I know we're looking at future and you can't decide what's happening but now they're buying all this agricultural land and they're going to have it and then they can go back and develop it and they're not paying anything in taxes to start with so now they're going to get all this land cheap pay no taxes on it for 20 years and then they can turn around and sell it to a developer now that's my faults the rich get richer and the poor get poor that's a fact uh Zach do we have any like can you do you have an idea of the criteria when when if somebody makes applic to put a form and it goes through DRC what what all do they look at with so we we look at access to the property among you know checking through the Land Development code and comprehensive plan extensively to ensure that the use can locate there we also look at the access we look at the buffer we look at the setbacks we look at um the uh impervious surface from the the panels on the property that's just my my Department's function Planning and Zoning uh then you also have Public Works looking at culverts and SES and appropriate drainage you've got um it's all permitted through environmental um Department of Environmental Protection rather than St John's River Water Management District they have to have an Erp an environmental resource permit to locate on that property and then they're also exempt from building codes as well if it's not a manned facility however generally in my experience the power company that's connecting to their grid wants the voluntary permit to connect you know their equipment to the the the grid to ensure safety and compliance and but but there's there's nothing there's no regulatory requirement on our side that basically looks at the equipment that's going in there how do how do they propose that hey here's a solar farm and they have a generic idea of what's going there or are are they Prov are they required at any time to give a detailed set of drawings of the actual equipment that's being installed or is that out of the purview since it doesn't require a building permit so they're they're not required for the building permit component however they do have to satisfy Fire Marshall and Fire Protection uh NFPA you know all those handbooks so truthfully our fire marshal gets most involved in what type of batteries how many batteries are stored on site um how is it all wired together things of that nature Mr Hancock do you have a motion I do Madam chair I have a motion I make a motion to the board of County Commissioners to establish an oversight committee to explore how many solar Farms should be allowed in buckham county is that a recommendation you you make a recommendation okay that we make a motion I guess are you make a motion to recommend to the board of County Commissioners I do I think they need to establish they're the ones that are going to have to say Okay we want an oversight committee to just look at this area doesn't have to take second third okay I have a motion let me see if I can read this and see if Jennifer and I Jenny and I agree with this recommend to the board of County Commissioners that an oversight committee be appointed to look at how many solar facilities will be allowed in putam County I have a motion do I have a second second second got a third okay I have a proper Motion in a second any other discussion all those in favor please signify by saying I I I'm going to vote I but again I think our hands are tight on that time I'm going to vote no so whatever vote I for the I don't believe our all we're saying all they're saying in the in the statute is if it is if if it is zoned agriculture then the solar farm can be shall be allowed to go there shall be no they shall be allowed right but I don't think that anyone can tell putam County how many of what we have what we decide we should be able to decide we're I don't disagree with your argument but I don't think I don't think it's possible yeah I I vote I for the sake of um letting the County Commission think that there ought to be a limit I I don't disagree with you but I mean too much of everything could be bad I don't know what do you think judge you don't want to talk I don't have a of all people you're the one that should have a dog in this fight telling us what we can and can't do um but we can we can certainly make a recommendation to the board of County Commissioners that's not a problem um you know they can do say no so that's right so um anyhow that's done anything else under new business needs to come before the board I'm I'm going to beat a dead horse I got uh Zach that statute was that this year or was that 21 that that statute 21 it definitely wasn't this year um I want to say it goes back to either 2018 or 2020 I think 18 I mean when it was proposed and maybe approved in 2020 something like but since then I know we've had some puds for these we have um so I've been here since since uh 2021 and I've not seen a PUD for a solar facility in my tenure here okay I think the most recent one was guess it does seem like it when they built Rice Creek facility they Rice Creek is not a PUD that's straight zoning um I think the most recent one is Tupelo solar out in East Paca yes we had that one reel swarm reel correct I want to say that PUD was around 2016 maybe 2018 something like that it's old one when they do the one on on Coral Farm Road out in FL home y that the first one that was the second when they started in hawor yeah was one Rodeo Drive I think out milrose I in interlock the third one yeah there's one in interlockin and then the one that's in Hawthorne is bifurcated by Ela and that was our second one so I I guess my point in asking that question is yes they have taken over a lot of Farmland but they haven't some Farmland but they haven't gone and you know it's not like all of our Agland is now being used for solar I I mean I still age unless you live on Coral Farm Road then it looks like it all has yeah I agree with your premise that yeah I'm like I said I'm beating a dead horse let's stop it's okay maybe you got time to beat horses if you need to I would think there should be some kind of stipulation to put in a PUD or something that request us being able to put in a solar form I don't disagree but the state does and maybe it needs to go back to the State of Florida PC say hey why are you doing this St well the statute doesn't say unrestricted it says you have to allow it in the zoning so we allow it in the zoning but everything else we do outside of solar Farms everything else we do comes with a whole list of other restrictions or requirements that are made for whatever the development is so it doesn't make sense that solar Farms fall into this category where the only thing that are allowed unrestricted into the into that zoning so there's got to be some sort of oversight it's my opinion did you have yes that's fine no Mr Frolic has an announcement to make you got it in front of you I didn't keep s a copy I'm going to resign at the next meeting which I think was December 11th um after that meeting I will be done for a while can we vote against that uh I'm sure everybody make a motion I know how that would stand up but we can try probably as good as the one we just made yeah that's right no I I understand I understand this I've been over seven years I was shocked so I enjoyed it and it's time to move on do some other things we appreciate okay we do have the minutes from the September 11th meeting before us that need to be approved are there any additions or changes to the minutes as you've been presented second who was that second was that Justin yes ma'am come before the board we appreciate you're sticking out the meeting with us Beverly Crossing we hadn't seen it that's correct the sign was placed incorrectly um it was originally slated for today um but it will be going to December 11th and January 14th so December 11th the signs will go back out um they should have been removed but they will back out in the next week or so for uh December 11th I'm sorry sir I wish I'd known that earlier we could have saved you from sitting through this what else do we have coming up in December Zach do you know what it is Jennifer do you know what the other rezone is we'll have a reone um trying to do from C2 to C3 in the in Paka the town of Paca and then I believe Michael is presenting a subdivision yeah Beverly's Crossing yeah and just to reiterate it's not in the city of Paca but it is very close right on um Highway 17 well city of Paca um city limits are weird yes they are extremely it's very close to the City Line they they wiggle waggle around let's just say that so um anything nothing else to come before us and this meeting stands adjourn it's 454 e