Um before we get started with our introductions, let me say that I know that there are a lot of passion passions and a lot of passion in this room this afternoon and a lot of people are going to want to speak and we're going to make time.
Everyone who wants to speak will be heard. So, we're not going to push you out and send you home because we've finished doing what we want to do. We'll keep time. You'll be allowed three minutes. And at the end of the three minutes, I will tell you your time is
up. Now, that is not for the agents or the agents representatives. It's only for public comment. So, I I hope you will bear with us. We have five cases or really six this afternoon that are coming before us. And
we're going to do them in order of the agenda as they have been set. And I would just ask that everybody hold your salutations, your hurays or your amens or your go brothers and just keep those to
yourself. We will hear the passion coming through the speaker and we will appreciate that and we will respect that. Uh everybody will be listened to and our job
is to look at these applications as they fall within the bounds of the Putnham County Comprehensive Plan and the Putnham County Land Development Code. That's basically what our job is. And then we make a determination whether
it does or doesn't and we send that recommendation on to the board of county commissioners. They have the final say. So we don't. We're just the first step. We're the warm-up act. Okay. So I appreciate everyone being here. It is
gratifying to see so many people have come out this afternoon. This is exercising your civil duty and your civil obligations and we appreciate that and we respect it. And I'm glad to see a young person back there. It's time to learn how government works. And this is
a good example of how government should work. And hopefully we'll do it right. So, um, somebody's reading our, oh, Mr. Morris is reading our introductory statement. When he finishes that, I have two questions to ask the board.
Well, let me Yeah. Has anyone had any conflict of interest with any of the cases that come before us today? Okay. Has anyone had exparte communication that might affect how they vote today?
I mean, I've fielded a bunch of calls because just because I've taken any conversations. Yeah. Okay. And none of that will influence how you vote. Correct. As a final decision. Okay. With that out of away, out of the
way. I'm not talking right. Mr. Morris, would you please read our introductory statement? I will attempt to read it. Um, this is a public hearing and we are the Putnham Putnham County Planning Commission. We are designated local planning agency for the county as prescribed in chapter 163
of Florida statute. We function under the authority of article 11 and 12 of the Putnham County Land Development Code. The primary responsibility of the commission is to serve as an advisory board to hear and make recommendations to the board of county commissioners on matters related
to provisions of and proposed amendments to the Putham County comprehensive plan and Putnham County Land Development Code. The members of this board will review each application and make a recommendation to the board of county commissioners at their regularly scheduled meeting on September 23rd. I
got a note here with the exception of PUB 250000001 that will be at the August 26th meeting. Procedurally, we will call each case and number. Members of staff will briefly explain to us the nature of each request. We will then take comments from
the applicant or their representatives followed by public comments concerning the request. Please direct all comments or statements to the board and not to other people in the audience. Before speaking, we will ask each person to be recognized come forward
um to the lectern and identify his or herself with name and address. After all persons wishing to speak have been heard, we will entertain a motion from the board. The motion will be voted on by the board members and become our recommendation to the board of county commissioners. The board of county commissioners will make the final
determination regarding the application. All applicants have the right to withdraw their request at any time during the application process. The following cases were advertised as being considered at today's meeting but will not be heard at the request of the applicant.
There are none. And there are none. If the applicant chooses to have these cases heard at a later date, the case will be revert. Well, neither here nor there. The first case we will we will consider is CPA 25-00005. Go ahead.
You're up. Okay. Uh, for the record, Ethan Thompson, uh, planner one with Putham County Planning and Development Services, presenting CPA25-00005. Uh, this is a smallcale feature land use map amendment from commercial to urban service. The applicant is Ernestine
Green. The agent is Sarah Mayor. Uh, Sarah is in the audience. I do not know if Miss Ernestine is. Um, the parcel is a 0.48 48 acre parcel located at 149 State Road 207 East Paca, Florida 32131.
Um they are requesting a future land use map amendment to allow for the redevelopment of a single family residence. Uh the subject site is zone residential 2 and has a future land use map uh designation of commercial. The parcel has approximately 24 ft of road
frontage on 207. Uh it's currently developed with a dilapidated single family residence that was greatly damaged by Hurricane Ian. Uh and the applicant is proposing to replace the existing residence with the assistance of the Rebuild Florida project. Uh and the the agent Sarah Meyer is with
Rebuild Florida. the process after approval. Uh should this map amendment be approved, they will be eligible to obtain all required permits to redevelop the property with a single family residence uh that is consistent with both the Florida building code and the R2 zoning district. Uh should the amendment be
denied, the property will still need to be reszoned uh into a zoning district that has conforming uses in the commercial land future land use map category as R2 uh does not have any conforming commercial uses currently. Here's
the uh aerial feature land use map zoning flood zone X and a little bit of a behind it, but it's unclear if there are wetlands on the property. All of the maps are a
little bit different. Uh there are not any on the survey that they provided. Staff recommends approval of the request to amend the future land use map from commercial to urban service as the proposed amendment is consistent with the goals, objectives, and policies of the Putham County comprehensive plan and
is compatible with the existing development in the area. Thank you, Ethan. Are there any questions of the board or staff? Uh, are the the properties there to the north that's single family residents like occupied single family residents?
Uh, yes, sir. Any other questions? Is the applicant or the applicant's agent here? Please come forward. Good evening. Sarah Meyer with Dubberry. Um here on behalf of Rebuild Florida and
the applicant. Um we're in agreement with staff's analysis and recommendation. and just wanted to come up here and say we appreciate their guidance and getting us through this process and we're here to answer any questions you might have. Will this be replaced with a site built home?
Yes. On slab. Yes. Any other questions? Hearing no questions. Thank you very much for coming. We appreciate you being here and um we'll move forward. Is there anyone in the audience who would like to speak either for or against this
application? Hearing none, I will close the public hearing portion of the meeting and bring it back to the board. I will entertain a motion or discussion. Uh yeah, I don't I don't see an issue
with it. Um I know that we had uh a project come through there across the street from it for the metal shop here where we denied the industrial zoning here a couple months ago. And I feel like this kind of justifies our
decision on that one. Um, so yeah, I I far as I'm concerned, I can I can make a motion. Okay. I'll make a motion that we approve what which one do we call it? CPA 25000000005 as st by staff recommendation as it is
in consistent with the goals objective and policies of public county comprehensive plan. I have a motion in a second. Um one thing I will say about this I think this is the same kind of situation we had last month with another site in a
different part of town where this is a commercial. It's it's being looked at as a commercial corridor because that's where people are coming into the community and some businesses are going out there especially since we have water and sewer in that direction. So I think
this was probably an administrative change to commercial and um but it's a residential area and has been a residential area. There's a enclave there. So I think that's the case here. So we have a motion and a second on the
floor. Any further discussion? I'll call for the question. All those in favor, please signify by saying I. I. Chair votes I. It's unanimously approved. This will go on to the board of county commissioners for their September 23rd meeting. And it'll be a similar hearing just like this. So,
please plan to be there and uh good luck in your future. Okay, we're up to case number 09. Um, zoning map amendment from commercial to C4.
Do I have staff up there? Michael, you may take it away, sir. One moment, please. Pulling up the Oh, yes. Here we are. All right. Thank you again, Madam Chair. Uh, for the record, Michael Graves, Planning and Development Services. This
is ReZ25- 00009. Uh Jolene West is requesting a zoning map amendment from commercial retail to commercial intensive C2 to C4 on a 0.82 plus or minus acre property uh located
at 143 Philips Derry Road in Palaca to allow to allow the development of heavy equipment repair facility on the already existing uh uh repair facility. Uh surrounding zoning includes light industrial and retail commercial IL and
C2 respectively. Uh the subject site has a future land use designation of commercial CR and the parcel has approximately 120 ft of access from Philips Derry Road. According to the NWI wetlands layer and the FEMA flood zone layer on the GIS reference map, the
lands do not appear to contain wetlands and is located in FEMA flood zone X which is not a special flood hazard area. Uh the process after approval, should the applicants be approved, the applicant will then be subject to review by the development review committee before obtaining any permits for
development uh or redevelopment on this property uh compatible with the C4 zoning district. Here you can see an aerial view of the property. Apologies for that. The parcel in question is not highlighted. It is the central one. We're using the new software that doesn't highlight
unfortunately. Uh here you can see the future land use as it is part of a commercial block. Uh the zoning you can see the uh purplish area is the industrial whereas the rest around it appears to be commercial aside from across Philips Derry Road.
Uh staff recommends approval of the request to amend the zoning map from commercial retail to commercial intensive C2 to C4 as staff finds that the proposed resoning is consistent with the goals, objectives, and policies of the adopted comprehensive plan and meets the location requirements of the
commercial intensive C4 zoning district provided in the land development code and comprehensive plan. Are there any questions? Questions to staff? It seems odd to me that somebody who's doing all their work inside, which I
assume this is, would be a C4. And unlike places we've had before where there's been a lot of outside work, but that may be something we need to look at in the land development code. The main reason is environmental regulations. Uh the type of work that will be done in a heavy equipment repair
facility is different than what is done in a traditional uh uh oil and tire change facility that you might see at like Tire Kingdom or the like. Uh the different types of materials that they use requires higher level of environmental regulations which
necessitates the trigger for a higher intensity commercial zoning. Thank you. No problem. Is the applicant or the applicant's agent here? Please come forward. Give us your names and addresses. Dar Jolane West, 1319 South Palm Avenue,
Pala, Florida 32177. Randall Key, uh, PO Box 11:02, Hollister, Florida. Okay. And anything you would like to add to what the staff gave us? No. Um, other than my husband passed about four and a
half years ago and this is the last thing to liquidate and I found some awesome people to buy it and they just need the zoning to complete their, you know, future. Okay. So, you're going to utilize all the existing buildings on site and not build anything
new. Well, there may be future plans uh not immediately, but future plans to add on to the building um if it's needed, but I don't have anything in concrete right now. And to ease any questions on the your question about the, you know, doing the
work inside, some of the equipment is large and it won't fit in there. So, the some of the work will be done outside, you know, in the yard. Okay. All right. Any questions of the applicant or the applicant's agent?
So, Michael, quick question for you. So, basically, if we approve this zoning, this was basically an applicant initiated reszone to get the the current property compatible with the current use because the current use is already set up for what you're doing. You're just trying to make it compatible.
Sure. Okay. All right. And there's really no reason for them to come back to DRC unless they do want to do some type of expansion. So, once the day is over with, it's done. Uh more or less. Yes sir. I believe they will need to do some environmental review because they will be working with hydraulic equipment uh
which does have a environmental impact they need to mitigate. However, they don't necessarily need to go through a complete DRC review uh so much as just make sure that everything is up to modern regulations. Okay. Anything you would like to add?
I just say thank you. Okay. Thank you. Um I hope you're welcome. Um, okay. I'll bring it back to board and close the Is there anybody else in the audience who would like to speak for or against this application? Okay. Uh, is Philips Dairy Road a city
road, a county road, or a private road? It's a county road, ma'am. It's a county road. Okay. Thank you. Um, we'll bring it back to the board for discussion andor motion. Uh, I think it's a no-brainer on this one. Um, I'm I'm happy to see uh local
guys, small town business guys being able to move into a position and step up, make their make their business better than it was. You know, we got a lot of these a lot of these guys, mobile mechanic working out of their house. To see one take the initiative and step up and be a
being a qualified facility is says a lot for, you know, the direction public growing. So, yes. Uh, yeah. It is it is commercial right now. Yes. C2. It's a lower intensity of commercial because there four grades
and so C2 to one side and industrial to the other and C4 is right in the middle. It seems like I mean that's right. This is the same discussion we had with the metal shop over there trying to step to that industrial level. And this is like a prime uh prime property for doing what they're
doing asking for that C4. It's in a It's in a little enclave of uh repair and things like no residential traffic down there. So, it sounds good. Um, do I hear a motion? I'll make a move uh motion that we accept
25-00009 as it is consistent with goals and objectives of P County comprehensive plan. Or is this the comp plan in the land development land development code on this? I have a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none,
I'll call for the question. All in favor, please signify by saying I. I. All oppose like sign. Chair votes I. Thank you very much. We appreciate your coming. Your next step is to stay in contact with staff and be ready for the board of county commission meeting on
September 29 23rd and that's when they will hear this application. So, good luck and thank you very much for bringing this forward and for taking the initiative. All right, we're going to move on to PUD
25 0000001. And I believe Michael, you're still up. Yes, ma'am. Thank you, Madam Chair. Again, uh for the record, one more time, Michael Graves, Planning and Development Services. This is as mentioned PUD2-0000001 uh for the David J. minor 2 and Natalie
living trust. Uh the reszone is from agriculture to plan unit development uh again for the David J. Minor 2 and Natalie Living Trust. Uh on approximately 9.37 acres located at 689
North Highway 17 in Palaka, Florida. Uh the applicant is requesting the zoning map amendment to establish a family compound for up to nine residential units. Uh the applicant is seeking approval for the purpose of establishing a family
compound. As previously mentioned, uh the parcel is currently designated agriculture on the future land use map. Uh the subject has approximately 70 ft of paved road frontage along US Highway 17. And according to the Putnham County GIS reference map, there are some
wetlands located along the western border of their property. uh less on uh even less is depicted on their delineation supplied to this application and the FEMA flood zone layer is depicting only FEMA flood zone X throughout this property, not a special
flood hazard area. The applicant's desire is to create this family compound to stay in the family trust as opposed to separating the parcel into nine approximately 1acre uh lots with the type three family subdivision in order to establish a continual compound for
their family generations to come. Uh should this PUD be approved, the applicant will then submit to development review committee a second time. They have already gone through DRC for a preliminary review uh to satisfy additional development requirements as well as finalize their site plan. The
DRC will review plans to ensure the development is compatible with local, state, and federal development regulations as well as the development agreement after it is approved. Uh after DRC, the applicant may then apply for permits to develop the property in accordance with their development agreement and the approved site plans by
DRC. Uh here you can see the aerial. This is the same map from previous. So that's why the lines are still there. My apologies, uh the future land use, the zoning, the FEMA flood zone, and the wetlands.
Again, these wetlands are not actually uh reflective of the actual wetlands. Staff recommends approval of the request uh to amend the zoning map from agriculture to plan unit development with the staff amended development agreement as the request is consistent
with the requirements for PUB zoning, consistent with the future land use designation and consistent with other comprehensive goals, objectives, and policies. Are there any questions? since it was owned agriculture. Uh when
was the last time there was agriculture engagement on the property? U Mr. Miner claims that he has an active pecan farm going on there with an agriculture tax exemption. So Michael, I do have a question regarding the uh proposed development
agreement under section 4.5 and section 4.6. It's sewage disposal and probably water. It talks about how if county water and sewer were ever get within a thousand feet of the property that they'll be required to connect to such um for any future development. And I
know that if I if I remember correctly, this thing is kind of phase. He plans to do so many units within the next couple of years and maybe a few units later. So let's say 10 years from now, he still wants to build two units and county water and sewer or water and sewer
there. Does he still have to go forward and provide sewer to that one or two potential future developments? Uh it just seems like it's a lot of potential cost for them if they only have to build one or two houses. The reason for that is to comply with uh
regulations that were handed down by the state when it comes to uh the water and sewer. Uh currently the septic to sewer system in East Palaca requires that any new development within a thousand feet be it single family residential or commercial uh connects to sewer and
water if it is within 1,000 ft uh based off of road frontage. Uh this is to comply with the uh regulations that were handed down by the department of environmental health. And so we incorporated this into the uh POD in order to establish consistency with uh
higher agencies and it's not on it's kind of on the distant drawing board that that northern US7 corridor is going to grow and we hope that the county will be able to grow with it and bring utilities that far realizing that it's on the other
side of Rice Creek. So, they'll have to look at that, but um that's why that's there. Correct. Uh there's also concerns that if we don't have that language in there, then 50 years from now when all homes are built, septic system fails and
there's sewer right there, he wouldn't need to necess he would not be allowed to connect to the system even if it provides superior product. Okay, any other questions? Is the density requirement for the PUD going to be the
same as the existing? Uh so the density requirement is always determined by the future land use policy. Uh for the agriculture future land use, that would normally be one unit per 10 acres of land. Uh however, because this is a family compound in a
perpetual family trust, they are uh activating the family density exception as outlined in comprehensive plan policy A.1.9.4 B.3. uh which does allow for a maximum density of one unit per acre in the
agriculture future land use and agriculture zoning district. Uh they are utilizing that with the current agriculture zoning district to justify the nine units on their roughly 10 acres of land. If there were a uh if there were a decision
to put more than one residence per acre, what what would the process be? What they would have to amend their development agreement. Uh that would be considered a major amendment which would trigger a new review by the DRC as well as another meeting with the planning commission and board of county
commissioners. Now this is only going only going to require one meeting with the BOCC. Correct. Because they are technically less than 10 acres. Less than 10 acres. So and that's September 23rd. Uh it normally would be Oh, we're moving that one up. That's
right. Yes. Okay. Madam Chair, if I may. Yes, sir. I do believe that the applicant revised his application and now he's exceeding the 10acre threshold. I I I'm pretty sure. Yeah. So, that
would require two of the BOCC meetings. Okay. Uh the first would be at August 26th, but the second meeting will be determined by the board at that August 26th meeting. All right. Thank you. Yeah. What is the total uh acreage now?
He's like 10.14 if memory serves correct. Okay. 37. Yeah. That was the original parcel, but to get road frontage, it appears that there was a lot line or shift
half an acre. I'm not sure this is on. Okay. Um staff, this is a question for staff. Um we have an exhibit here labeled exhibit G site plan. Um, while it gives some indication of
scale, reading through the proposal or the proposed PUD language. Um it it speaks to certain setbacks, but
um I have a few questions about how it Is there any in is there any site plan that shows the required setbacks from both the existed existing man-made drainage ditch the existing man-made
pond because and then also taking into account that it says single family home range 1,200 square feet to 3600 square feet but it's showing
1880 square foot homes. Uh to answer that question, no, there is not a different site plan with more detail as it was not required for a pluralinary DRC review. Uh such a site plan will a requirement for the final
DRC review which occurs after the BOCC approval. So, at this point, we don't even we're not even um sure that it's going to fit this layout as shown. It it should be roughly similar to that
uh layout. However, they do have the capability to make minor changes such as if they wish to rotate the buildings or if they wish to more or less 50 feet in any direction is kind of the rule of thumb that we uh say with DRC preliminary review because it is not a
finalized plan. It is not this is how they are going to absolutely do everything down to the fine detail. DRC preliminary review is to get permission to actually do something. A final review is to do this specific thing.
Okay. Is there a precedent for this? Precedent for what, sir? Uh, basically, so when I peel back the onion, so to speak, on this proposal, basically running into staff analysis comments like the
proposed development is not consistent with land development code. There's several of those comments in here. Um, so again, why to go with the multifamily?
Um, I'm trying to type uh type two or type three subdivision. Why was that route not? So, type two they would not qualify for is that is a large lot subdivision meant to create 10 acre parcels. They do not have the land to do that. the type three
family subdivision which would allow for 10 1acre parcels with 10 agriculture agriculture property uh was an offered solution to this problem six seven months ago to Mr. Miner. Uh they did not wish to do that because they wish to
retain all the properties in the family trust uh which was not legally allowed to happen with a type three family subdivision as the properties must be given to or sold to immediate family members and cannot remain under same
ownership. Uh then the option of residential three residential four were also thought of at one point before any of this happened. Uh the issue with those is both of those require community scale water and sewer and or sewer to be present which are not present at these
uh at this location at this time. Uh because of the type three family subdivision, it was actually uh recommended by the board of county commissioner uh to attempt a plan unit development uh
to use a similar essentially scale and intensity of what is in the code uh for something that they considered to be quote unquote unique. So that leads me to my question. What's unique about this other than the fact on
just on appearance it doesn't ne seem to it preempts infrastructure roadways frontages. That's the unique part when I read this. So staff had that same concern when we wrote our report. Uh in a sense it could
be made that this isn't unique in certain degrees as it is ultimately very similar to the type 3 family subdivision without creating an internal easement to access the separate properties. Uh however the existence of the active
pecan farm does technically make this a mixeduse zoning uh because it is an active agriculture as well as an active residential zoning district. any form of mixed use is by nature a unique development uh to Putnham County as we
do not have any mixeduse zoning districts other than plan unit development. So, and I'm going to get get to my point here real quick. Some of the asurances that are provided here are
based are just um references to a trust. This board, the county commission has zero control over a private trust. Correct. That is correct. Okay. Then the next part of this is to make it unique is to go back to your
point. The A which the applicant is trying to retain green belt. This board and the commission have zero to do with green belt. Correct. That is correct.
You can also be green belted based on the use and not necessarily the zoning. Correct. That's correct. Again, this PUD seems to really set the land development code upside down a little bit in my my
opinion. Um, basically we'll have 11 parcels with no street frontage. One parcel, sir. That's not allowed to be divided. It's an unrecorded. So I I we it's unreal. It's not a subdivision, sir.
Okay. So when Okay. So theoretically 53 years from now, somebody needs to get a mortgage, a loan, a construction loan. They will not be allowed to divide that
property in perpetuity. It would be illegal to do so. They would be denied the same that any other split by deed would be denied, which would mean no new building permits, no new any kind of permit, frankly, other than a permit to recombine these properties,
but it could be leased. Nope. Our our development agreement specifically says that these properties cannot be leased, sold independently, or any other uh terms of rental under any circumstances, even if the trust does
say that they could. All right. The development agreement supersedes the trust. The development agreement makes the rules for the land. The trust can say whatever they want, but the trust is not a legally binding contract for the land. the development agreement is the legally
binding contract for the land. And it's my understanding with the with the green belt stuff that they exempt out an acre per resident. So as that gets developed with more and more residents, they're going to chop out an acre with each house that goes. So if they're doing in the first phase, they're building four houses out there,
four acres of that 10 will be exempt from the green bill. It won't be allowed to be exempted with the green bill exemption. It's the way I understand that from what staff understands that is the case. Uh they don't necessarily need to be green belt to be an active
agriculture uh development. However, the green belt is a benefit to agriculture developments, but it is not handinhand with agriculture. If they still maintain the pecan farm, then they're still an active agriculture even if they're paying every cent of that land's value.
So again, based on our comprehensive plan, what what benefits does this bring? What I mean, I think there's three references in here that where staff could not make it fit.
Staff, as mentioned, staff could not find a way to say that this is unique compared to the type three family subdivision. By all means, it is very much the same as the type three family subdivision. However, because of the way
that the code is written, a type three family subdivision cannot be done with a family trust. And a type three family subdivision requires the properties to be divided off. The intent is to keep the properties under a single parcel ID
number under single ownership in perpetuity to keep that family together to keep those that family housed on a single lot. Uh there is no other development in Putnham County that is similar. There is no other zoning
district that would apply here that could allow them to do what they're wanting to do. As such, it is by definition unique in the regards that there is nothing else like it. But it's unique, but it is not in violation.
It is not in violation. Our land development code does allow for plan unit developments to have multifamily residential units on large lots or even small lots. Our planned unit development zoning regulations do allow for
combining agriculture with residential. allows for combining agriculture and residential and commercial and industrial on the same property. Uh planned unit developments are a zoning district that the applicant is allowed to create most of the rules as long as
they do not violate state or federal regulations and the county has the ability to say additional rules to comply them with our comprehensive plan and land development code. Uh, just one more quick question and I promise I'll leave you alone. Um, I also
read in here about all the easements they're provided um for access and stuff. It appeared to me that one of these at least one of the easements referenced is off property. It's to the north. So, I'm not sure that that should
be here. But also, the bigger one is there are monitoring wells on this property. How has that been if there's monitoring wells? I didn't have time to pull up the FD website and look for contaminant. Could have done
that. I just didn't have time. But has that been considered in this or the easements? Because if there's monitoring wells, there's easements to monitor them. Correct. Uh the uh development agreement explicitly says that the monitoring wells shall not be tampered with and the
access easements to said monitoring wells will remain uh accessible for any uh agency that needs to use the monitoring wells. As a followup to that, what are the setbacks from the monitoring wells to septic fields? Uh to
my recollection the uh setbacks for any internal structures shall remain uh 20 feet. Uh so from hang on I know I uh as for from the wells to the septic that is determined of course by the state department of environmental health where
most wells have to be a minimum distance of 75 ft from any septic system. I cannot of course speak for the Department of Environmental Health's regulations for monitoring wells if they are in uh more restrictive than other uh regulations for other wells. Uh however,
they will have to comply with all state level uh Florida Department of Environmental Health regulations. Will the Florida Department of Environmental Health be a part of the DRC? They always are. Yeah, I think we're getting a little depth in this. I mean, we're talking about a 10acre piece under a single
parcel on in a seem to be affecting that many people. I mean, as long as we're keeping the density under, you know, keeping the houses on an acre or better that I mean, who who are we who are we bothering?
Yeah. I mean, I and as long as there's a a mechanism in place that if they try to chop it up later, even after after there's homes built in there, that that they have to adhere to the subdivision rules, I don't see why uh I don't see why this isn't a good thing for the for the area out there. I
mean, if it truly is a family compound, I'm I'm all for it. Like, I'm all for people doing what they want to on their own property as long as not interfering with everybody else around them. So, yeah, I think we're I think we beat on this one.
Anybody else have a question of staff? I I do have a few more questions. Michael, this may be for you or the the applicant. Um, the septic system, are you planning on doing one large scale septic system or individual ones? You want to do both?
One septic system per house. Yeah. Individual septic systems for each dwelling. Okay. All right. Michael, back to the development agreement. Is this kind of unique or is this language that you guys would would throw into to all things like this under the construction part. I
think it was section three. It talked about how the existing residence is a barnuminium. Is the is it is it sided with metal the existing but yet it says moving forward none of the other residents shall be sighted with metal. Was that is that special language just for this or is that part of something
bigger? Uh that would be special language just for this. Uh staff does not create a development agreement. Uh staff has the right to amend development agreements as they are submitted to us. Our initial development agreements as you see there are two in your packet uh are always
created by the applicant and the applicant has the right to define what is currently there or explain uh future development uh restrictions and regulations. uh staff is allowed to make amendments such as the definition section where we define a barnominium in
reference to this specific development and how we also uh assisted with defining that as opposed to just leaving it at barnaminium with this and baraminium of course does not have a legal definition in the land development
code found it pertinent to actually define that strictly speaking they have the right to say that one will have the metal sighting The rest will not right. So the development agreement within this package was submitted by the applicant. Correct. I don't see a redline version from you guys. Uh the staff amended development
agreement. The second uh version should be there. It should be article uh sorry not article uh submission uh attachment two I believe or attachment three. Uh it's not a redline version. It is simply a cleaned up version because the redline
version ended up being 20 pages long. uh and it was decided that it would be too uh cumbersome to actually read. Uh many misspellings were available as you can see in the original. So what we have is the staff amended. You you should have two copies. One is
the original and one is the staff amended. Yeah. And we do. It's just not redline. I saw on a on a later case there's one that's redlined. So that's why I question. Yeah. My apologies. If you would like them all redlinined in the future, I shall make a note of that moving forward. It would be nice to see what you guys are changing relative to what
they are submitting. Then I shall make sure that happens on all cases after tonight. Any other questions of staff? Moving along, I'd like to bring the applicant and the applicant's agent up andor or both.
Mr. Miner, thank you for your forbearance. All right, David Miner, 116 Sheffy Road. As far as if you want to see a a picture of the whole setup already done, I have that with me if you want me to pull it out and show it to y'all as a board.
Yes. No. Maybe. Want to see it? I don't think we need to. Okay, just that's DRC's business. Okay. Well, I just, you know, it was asked about it, so that's why. So, so one of the things that that with doing this PUD and doing having the property
in the trust and all that and and I've said this before in front of the county commissioners and stuff like that, um there is a Florida statute that you can lease your property to your children for 98 years and allow them to file homestead exemption. That's where I got the ideal from and it's it's been there
for however long. And then um the purpose of it and and and just be frank with you. Think of the mistakes we've all made at 20 years old. I don't want my children to make the same mistakes. They get married, they get a divorce. It's not their house. It belongs to the
trust. At this point, my wife and I, as my children say, I'm big dog. Okay. Once my wife and I are gone, there's five kids. They will be on the trust. they already are on the trust, but they they will be able to make command decisions
at that what they want to do. So, the whole purpose of them doing this together and the houses are mainly around the pond. The rest of it with the pecan trees, there's also apple trees and pear trees that we've done. Um, that's what our purpose is. Okay. And to
to hopefully they grow old together and help each other and be there for each other. I know that doesn't happen anymore, but hopefully we may change. Like you said, this not the typical, but guess what? I'd like to see us change that and more families do that to help their family out and to be part of each
other and always there for each other. So that's my purpose of this whole project. Well, I guess you're unique in Putnham County because not that many people have four kids out of one at a time. Well, I mean, don't take me wrong, Major, my redhead, he doesn't want to be
ne, you know, Carl doesn't want to be next to him, so he wants his house over here, you know. I mean there is that um we so and the fact is we actually took the plans and showed them the design of plans. Do you know I made each one of my
children sign the plans? So we're done. You don't like it tough. You signed it. So and you know and it's funny and stuff how I'm doing it. I mean I'm looking at it from all perspectives. I'm looking at from being 62 but I'm looking at from when I was 20 and I'm
trying to I'm trying to make it work. Am I forgetting something? Am I missing something? Probably. I'll let you know later what it is. It's It's something that's missing. As far as the property goes, it's 1.4 acres per h house. And the reason why that is is because the
septic tanks system, the new the new one, if it's over one acre, then you don't have to worry about that new system. If it's under one acre or one acre and under, you have to it's like 25,000 versus 10. Well, that's self-explanatory why I did it that way. So,
and a lot of that stuff that's there, the the pond is when it's man-made, we didn't dig it. It was done in 1940. Okay. My wife traced it back to then as far as the north easement that was put in by Wilkinson way back then. We have a
66 foot easement that we go all the way to 17. Now, we're not using it. If we have to, if something happens we have to use, that's fine. But, Mr. Wilkinson doesn't want us uh to use it. So, don't tell nobody. We're trying to be good
neighbors. It's our secret. Okay? If we have to use it, then that's another story. But, as it is, we can all use the same gate at the front. It's a It's a ghost remote control gate. So, okay. Any questions?
Questions of Mr. Meyer? I don't think so. I think it's great what you're doing out there. Thank you. this this board kind of has to be on the defense sometimes to make sure that people aren't trying to skirt the the u subdivision requirements and stuff like that which but we all know
you you're from here you're not you're above board. Yes, sir. We're glad to see it. You've been working on this a long time. I I I've I've talked to zoning planning. I've talked to uh different people and got different advice. And be honest with you, at one point I could scream because
everybody had their opinion and so this is what I come up with. Yes, it's not typical, but guess what? Hopefully, it will be for more people because there's people out on West Road that owns, you know, 60 70 acres and they want to instead of giving their grandson an
acre, they can lease it to him and and that way he can file homestead exemption, but it also protects himself against the worst one, which is himself, you know, or my kids themselves. So, and and the one uh sighting, my little Rebecca, my little girl, she don't want
the metal sighting. So, guess what? We had to put a specific thing in there. We're not going to use metal sighting on hers, you know. So, and the square footage of the house. Okay. I'm going to build you a house. Okay. Once we're done, and if you have uh more children,
then you'll have to add on to it. It's on you, buddy. It's, you know, so at least it gives them a home. That's all I'm doing is give providing a home. I don't want them to have to work or go through as many steps in life as I did. So, I want them to have a home. After that, they're on their own.
The big dog has spoken. Yes. Thank you so much, Mr. Miner. You're welcome. And I must add, this is a project we tabled two months ago for some technical reasons and they had to take it back to DRC. So, we do appreciate your
forbearance with this process. Is there anyone in the audience who would like to speak either for or against this particular plan? Please come up and give us your name and your address. And when you're done, fill out a yellow card.
Okay. I'm Kevin Brandham. I live at 174 Kelly Smith School Road. I happen to be from a family that owns quite a bit of land. Thank you, Mr. Miner. I can't believe this. And I think this county needs to be a little more helpful for people like
us that are trying to do exactly that with our families. I know it's not common now, but when I was raised, it is it families lived close together. They helped one another. And this county has made it so hard to do anything. And I
know from experience because I went in there to give my daughter five acres of land. And because I needed to give her seven, I had to start the damn process over. So, and do a survey the whole thing. I already had a survey, but I had
to do it again. It's ridiculous. Ridiculous. And this county needs to start making it better for the families. You're not going to have your infrastructure. You're not going to have people de wanting to develop here because they don't can't do it. If they've got more than two kids, they're
they're screwed. and separate land one time. That's a state law. Any one of you got kids that you want at all deserve a house at the same time? That's a state law. Unfortunately, we can't control that one. But
yes, we can. We citizens can tell the state to stop. We don't have to eat all this like y'all are doing. Well, we made a made a point when we revised the comp plan that we were going to put it in possible language, not impossible
language. So, everything is permissive in the comp plan rather than saying you can't do this, you can't do that, you can't do this, we're saying all the things you can do. So, in my case, I go and I show up, they take they take a piece of paper, I fill it out, they'll be in touch with you. Two weeks later,
you get um you got to go back in there and you got to pay a fee. And then two weeks later, you're gonna get a stack of paper about this damn thick, and you got to read it and fill it all out to carry it back so that y'all can do this. And like I said, I started out wanting to give her three acres, but then I decided
I was going to give her five. I couldn't do it because I had to start the process all over again from scratch because I was raising it from three to five. I'm the same owner. It's the same property. Ain't nothing changed. Yes, ma'am. We appreciate you're sharing
that with us and I think that's good advice for for staff to work with the public as much as we can but our hands are tied in some respects too but please ask but in regard to Mr. Miner's cake you are in you are supportive of
his efforts. Absolutely. Okay. Thank you. Absolutely. I hope everybody in this county that has large tracks do it. I thank you very much for coming forward. We appreciate your your passion. Is there anyone else who would like to speak either for or against this
particular case? Hearing none, I'll bring it back to the board for discussion and vote. I'll have to say I've been on both sides of the counter with that lock split stuff and I share some of her sentiment. Surprisingly, it's easier now than it was 10 years ago. Um I feel like we've
got staff on duty now that is really helping the public now having to do paperwork. It doesn't feel like they're helping sometimes, but but they they generally find an avenue for compliance for uh what everybody's trying to do. Just it's
government. It it takes longer, but we appreciate the input. Microphone, Mr. Miner, I wish you well. Uh the thing to keep in mind is it's normally not the children that have a tough time getting along and staying together. Be careful
of their spouses. He's going to own all the houses. That's why he's don't care about sometimes they're in-laws and sometimes they're outlaws. Okay. I will entertain a motion to do this one too. Sure.
Anybody else want to approve 01? Second. Thank you. We have a proper motion and a second on the table. Any further discussion? Hearing none, I'll call for the question. All those in favor, please
signify by saying I. I. Chair votes I. Any opposed again, Mr. Miner. Thank you. Thank you. And hopefully you're a trailblazer. Yeah. Good luck. We next come to PUD
25000000002 and Michael you're up for this one too. Yes, Miss Chairman. Uh I once again for the record, Michael Graves, Planning and Development Services. This is PUD25-0000002 uh for William W. Jones and William W. Jones II.
Uh this is a reszone from a residential 2 R2 zone property to a plan unit development uh on an approximately 1.83 plus or minus acre section of intersection of uh South Highway 17 and Hudowl Road. Uh the applicant is
requesting a zoning map amendment for the purpose of establishing a neighborhood scale commercial zoning in the future land use uh resident sorry in the rural residential future land use category. Uh the applicant is seeking approval for
as mentioned before commercial in rural residential which is not allowed to be directly commercial and a compliance with land develop uh Putnham County comprehensive plan a.1.9.4 4.5 no uh point yeah five uh point C
uh on the uh currently the property is zoned residential 2 on the adopted future land use map uh on the adopted zoning map rather uh the subject has approximately 200 feet of pave frontage along Hudowl Road and according and
according to the Putham County GIS reference map uh there are conflicting amount of wetlands as depicted on the GIS map, the NWI wetlands layer, the 2024 GIS map, and the ARK Progis map. A wetland delineation will be required of
them at the time of uh final development review. Uh the FEMA flood zone layer for this property indicates FEMA flood zone X, which is not a special flood hazard area. The applicant's desired is to establish commercial development as well as minor amounts of community utilities
such as a potential communication tower. Uh should the PUD be approved, then the applicant will then submit to the development review committee a second time for their final development review. They have gone through preliminary where they were approved to move forward to the uh planning commission. This will be
to satisfy additional development requirements as outlined in state, federal, local, and development agreement regulations. Uh the DRC will then also uh uh sorry, I already said that. Uh after
the DRC, the applicant may then apply for permits to develop the property in accordance with their development agreement and any regulations placed by the DRC. Here you can see an aerial. Again, it's the same software as mentioned before that doesn't show the outlines, uh, but it is that central one
that's right on the intersection there. Here you can see the future land use. The zoning, you can see that it's, uh, residential, too, uh, surrounded by mostly residential and agriculture. Uh, you can see the FEMA flood zone, how it
kind of curves away from this property with that blue area, which is FEMA flood zone A. Oop, went a bit too far there. Uh the wetlands, as you can see on this version of the map, there doesn't appear to be any. However, on other maps, there have ranged from partial coverage to complete
coverage, indicating the need for a wetlands delineation. Uh staff recommends approval of the request to re uh to amend the zoning map from residential 2 to a plan unit development uh with the staff amended development agreement as the request is consistent
with the requirements for PUD zoning uh consistent with the future land use designation and consistent with the other uh comprehensive plan goals, objectives, and policies. Any questions? Any idea why there weren't any considerations made for a commercial future land use there along the 17
highway 17 corridor? Staff could not support a commercial future land use map amendment uh mainly because the commercial future land use map uh requires an intersection of two collector or greater roads and while US highway 17 is of course a major arterial
road uh hudow is a local road not a major collector a lot of traffic on Michael, I do have a few questions. Under one of these documents, it shows that F
dot's going to take up five lots in the future for Stormwater Pond. Mhm. Those are, if you turn your attention to the map here, uh the ones on the south uh western side there, those lots are currently owned by F the Florida
Department of Transportation for the use to turn into a storm water pond. Okay. So, we know no residents are going to be there. Correct. Okay. All right. Um, digging deeper just out of curiosity once again in the development agreement or the proposed development agreement, it talks about
architectural standards kind of going vertical improvement shall be consistent with the rural residential character and architectural aesthetics of the developed Hudal neighborhood south of the site using a country/general store as a residential style architecture.
Very subjective, but this is language that they submitted to us. That is correct. Okay. I like the site plan. I like the comments that we got from DRC. Um, looks very nice. Thank you.
I'm a little concerned about the wetlands there. I know DOT is going to do a storm water pond or retention pond there, but Dun Creek does flood. It does. Uh, as a uh resident of a not too far away area from this property, I
can say that Dun Creek does flood somewhat regularly and there are plenty of wetlands in the area. Uh, as mentioned before, they do need to submit a wetland delineation uh to staff at time of final DRC review or before obtaining any building permits. Uh, this
will determine if there are any wetlands in the air on this property that they need to either mitigate or avoid. Okay. Thank you. Um, is the owner present? Would you like to speak if you are? Ah,
Mr. Kennedy is here. No, he's the owner's agent. The agent. The owner is not here. I'm here to speak for them, but uh obviously we concur with staff's recommendations. Patrick Kennedy, uh, home address is 126
Feel Avenue, Pomona Park. Um and uh again we concur with staff's uh recommendation obviously and we're we're fine with the proposed amendments to the development agreement. So just here to answer any questions you might have. Any questions of Mr. Kennedy? Stick
around. We may have some later. All righty. Uh is there anyone in the audience who would like to speak either for or against this particular application? Seeing none, I will close the public hearing portion of the meeting and bring this back to the board for discussion
andor motion. Madam Chair, I'd like to make a motion to approve approve PUD25-00002 as it is consistent with the goals objectives of the uh land development code and the comprehensive plan of Putin County. Second.
Second. Okay, got it. Um, any further discussion? They might not call Hudal a major or minor arterial collector or whatever, but there's enough traffic on it that they could probably it it will probably grow and become that
before wider if it needed to. It it is a little bit busy at times. All right, I have a proper motion and a second on the table. Is there any no further discussion? I'll call for the question. All those in favor, please signify by saying I. I.
Chair votes I. Any opposed? Thank you very much. Um, and we can move on. I think let's take about a 10-minute break. We'll come back
refreshed and get into the next case. I know you've been sitting a long time and those chairs get a little hard after a while. call this meeting back to order. It's 5:16 p.m. Again, let me reiterate. I appreciate
your forbearance staying through the first four cases. And uh I appreciate your patience and your professionalism and your being a gentleman and a lady and all of those things this afternoon. And um we're
going to get through this and we'll be here as long as we need to be except Mr. Maluda. He may have to leave. He warned me. Um this is application CPA2-00003. We're going to start with the future
land use change. It's a largecale map amendment from agriculture to urban reserve. We will not be dealing with anything with the zoning at this time. We're only doing the land use. So, with that said, I'll turn it over to Mr. Baker and we will proceed.
Thank you, Madam Chair. For the record, Zachary Baker, Planning and Development Services. Uh, although we are starting with the future land use map application. First, I did want to draw attention to the planning commission members. When you arrived at your seat this afternoon, there was a packet of
paper. on the top was a comprehensive plan and future land use map amendment application update. That packet is a uh a series of different paperworks that were provided after the agenda was submitted. So there's um some
modifications of the application in here. There's some opposition and support letters and there's also some deeds which transferred ownership from Mosler Industries to WA207 LLC. So we now have all of the 12
parcels subject to both of these applications are under the common ownership of WA207 LLC. Moving in, this is the future land use map amendment application. We have here a largecale amendment um
application being proposed from agriculture to urban reserve. The initial application was to urban service. There was some dialogue between staff and the agent uh recommending that the applicants go for a lesser intense
future land use map uh than urban service as urban service wasn't quite uh consistent with the the area that they were making application for. And to give a little more detail briefly, the future
land use map is essentially a road map that the county looks at uh to predict the types of development that are anticipated in any given area of the county within the next 25 years. Um so in this case what we're proposing here is that uh
rather than it be agricultural development for the next 25 years we try to transition into some more urban development there adjacent to our airport and business park. With that I will continue my presentation.
Uh so the applicant is WA207 LLC. The agent is Mr. Kennedy uh from the Douglas Law Firm. I won't uh bore everyone in the audience by reading all of the parcels. There are 12 parcel numbers. We will show maps uh
throughout this presentation that will give a good idea of the vicinity of where this project is taking place. Uh, and this is a future land use map amendment um for the development of a motorplex with uses associated with driver training, enthusiast storage and
driving, commercial and industrial uses, and ancillary residential uses. This property has over 1 and a half miles of road frontage along County 309, County Road 309C and State Road 100 or
Reed Street. It is currently being used for silva culture. Some of the properties are registered as bonafide farms with the Putham County Property Appraiser. Others are not. There are no permanent improvements on the land subject to this application. Upon
submitt of the companion applications, the PUD documents were routed to the DRC via email and comments were requested from the DRC. Staff compiled those comments and returned them to the applicant. The applicant subsequently revised their PUD development agreement
in effort to address some of these comments. We'll hear a little bit more about that later on. The property is adjacent to the city of Palaca Municipal Boundary. Uses adjacent to the property include the Karkin airport, the St. John's River Water
Management District personnel facility, the Putnham County Business Park, and some residential and agricultural uses. The proposed development is also in the same vicinity as George Pacific, which is a large industrial use in the county.
Municipal water and sanitary sewer from the city of Palatka are within the immediate vicinity of this property. So, as I've mentioned, the DRC already had an opportunity to review this application. Uh not the the uh map
amendment, but the PUD. Um but in the event that this PUD and map amendment are approved um the applicants will then have to submit through development review again committee again for a much more comprehensive review. Due to the ma
magnitude of the proposed development and preliminary site plan review will be conducted again for issuance of a preliminary development order. Upon issuance of that preliminary development order, the applicant will then be required to submit for a final development plan whereby more detailed
specifications are provided to the county. The project will be subject to the submitt requirements of phase developments. The DRC will review plans to ensure the development is compliant with local, state, and federal development regulations.
agencies including but not limited to Florida Department of Transportation, Putnham County Public Works, Emergency Services, and St. John's River Water Management District will review plans to ensure the development will not adversely affect surrounding properties
along with other agencies notified of this project and outside of the status quo for development review. uh this the the the project will also be routed to departments within the city of Palaca as they do stand to be affected by the
development. Here we can see excuse me Zach there's some seats up here here in the front. Go ahead. Uh here we have an aerial view of the property and because of the scale of this property it's very hard to get
partial boundary lines mixed in with the aerial. Uh but we can see the general layout of the land subject to the application. Um here we can see the future land use designations
partial to the south. I'm sorry sir. It includes the partial to the south. There's a secondary partial. That is correct. Yes sir. Uh here we can see the zoning designations. And keep in mind some of these uh designations we've never seen before. That's because they
are in the city of Palaca. Example being AP1 kind of center of the screen there. Here we have the FEMA flood zone. There is some special flood hazard area on some of the development parcels B
and uh a depiction of the jurisdictional wetlands. Again, a wetland mitigation or delineation will be required at DRC. And then I know it's hard, excuse me, to see the detail, um, especially in the 8
1/2 by 11 that was given to you in your original packet. Um, but this is the most recent conceptual site plan that we have on record for the application. Uh, I do want to take a moment here just to uh highlight there's a um a funky shape
with a lot of curves that's kind of around the uh the airport. Uh that would be an education and residential restriction zone. Um education is the definition of education is pursuant to Florida
statutes which would be primary school K through 12. uh it would not include um you know a driver education facility. And then as promised here is a map from the city of Palatka that shows the
municipal water and sewer infrastructure in place. The closest uh infrastructure would be a lift station and 4-in force man and an 8 inch water meter along uh the property that is utilized by the uh
water management district to the south within the Putnham County or Palaca Business Park. Uh we've got some 12-in water meters, 8 in water meters, 8 in gravity fed uh for sewer. Uh some much larger infrastructure down
on the south side. So staff is recommending approval of the request to amend the future land use map from agriculture to urban reserve as the proposed amendment is consistent with the goals, objectives, and policies for citing uh this type of development in the Putnham County comprehensive plan
and is compatible with the existing development in the area. It's worth noting I'll take an opportunity at this time. Uh when this goes to the board of county commissioners on September 23rd, they will not be approving the request of the applicant. What they are going to
be deciding upon is if they want to deny the application or if they want to transmit the application for state coordinated review. Uh because this future land use map amendment exceeds 100 acres, it has to be routed to all of
the municipalities and jurisdictions around us and within us as well as several state agencies, one of them being Florida Commerce, which is the state planning agency. And I can take any questions about the future land use map amendment at this
time. The individual parcels, they were subdivision. Has that subdivision been vacated? No, ma'am. And in this picture here, you can kind of see the individual parcels up in the top left of the screen.
Um, there are a total of three subdivisions. There's total of six Merwin's Park subdivisions, but there are three that are comprised within the parcels subject to this application. Those subdivisions were recorded with the Putham County Clerk of Court in
1925. Um there was no storm water infrastructure developed. There were no roads or drainage improvements developed. Um at this time the county looks at these subdivisions as not vested, which means um you can't just
come in and obtain a building permit to put a house on one of these these pieces of land. Uh and you know, some of them are 06 acres. We're talking a thousand, you know, a couple thousand square feet.
not very large. Um but with that these are considered lots of record. There is case law that would support development of these parcels. Um but the applicant does own the majority of the lands within that kind of block. Um I believe
there are eight or 10 out parcels that are not owned by the applicant. Uh they have attempted to acquire them. Um, but I'll let the applicant and or their agent kind of give more explanation as to that.
Okay. Thank you. Okay. Any questions of staff other than mine? All right. Now, Mr. Kennedy, you're the agent for this case. Are you going to bring your entourage with you for this one or is that just going to be for the
next This is as for the recommendation. and I'm just here to speak to the uh future land use map amendment to urban reserve. And you are? I'm Patrick Kennedy uh with the Douglas Law Firm and my home address is 126 Fal Avenue in Pomona Park. Um the only thing
I I want to add is that we believe the urban reserve is a is an appropriate future land use for this location period. And uh you know obviously it suits the uh the proposed development that's going to follow uh the proposed that's going to follow this particular
application. But urban reserve makes sense when it's bookended by airport highway 100 and uh if you look at the uh the city map and the county maps it's almost all industrial except for a little bit little pieces here and there
but uh that surround it as far as the zoning goes. So we believe the urban reserve makes sense for the future of this property especially over the next 25 years. So any questions as Mr. Kennedy? Any questions?
Thank you Mr. Kennedy. Yep. You have a question John? Okay. All right. We'll now open it for public comment. Is there anyone in the audience who would like to speak either for or against the change of the land use designation
to urban reserve? Okay, you want to speak, please come forward. State your name and your address. My name is Ed Reid. I live at 4083 Reed Street, Highway 100.
For many years, the Putnham County stewards of the land have done very well without help or influence from outlying towns or other outside folks. Alford, Beck, Walton, Kramer, Smith,
Moes, Eubanks, Pelisier, Browning, Campbell to name a few. farmers, tree farmers, auto dealerships, cattle producers, blueberry farmers, all
did well. When they wanted to get out of those enterprises, they sold the property to the highest bidder. The seller has zero control over the disposition of the land at that point.
The county governing bodies may or may not approve of development to the owner's choice. We Putinham County have the right to determine what we do
with this land. I respectfully submit that we have not asked for nor do we solicit any help from any resident of an overpop populated overcrowded
town or cities inside or outside of Florida. Nobody in this room is more affected by this project than my family and me.
Our property borders this land. I support our local life lifetime local resident and my entire family supports Mr. Legosi in this project. Thank you for your time.
Thank you, sir. Yes, sir. Got one here. Please make sure you fill out a a speaker card. You can hand it to me before you get up. Could you hand me your speaker card, please?
Thank you. Uh, my name is Justin Cer. I um also live by Ed 4109 Reed Street, Highway I 100. Um, so this property butts up to my back corner as well. And uh I think uh
it's it's going to get developed at some point of something. And um I I'm going to be suspected by by what's going to be developed here. So uh I think for my kids' future and everything, I'd rather see something like this being built for them to have something to do. We just we don't have anything in this county
anymore like motorsports. And we used to go out to sand pits and hogwallers and mom decks to do stuff like this and it's all been shut down. And so I'm in favor for this coming coming to our town. Thank you, Mr. caller.
Okay. Yes, ma'am. Or yes, sir. Please. Do you have a speaker card? Okay. Please give us your name and address. My name is Denny Brandham, 174 Kelly
Smith School Road. I'm also a lifetime resident here. I'm not very good at words. And I was raised in this town when it was conceived hardly nothing brick streets. I've seen it grow and I've seen it go in the right direction and I've seen it made turns in the wrong
direction. But what I feel as a citizen of Putham County and it's my right to be represented that we have too much land grab in this county right here. you have too much outside influences coming in here lining
a lot of our I'm gonna say constituents and I'm not accusing nobody on the board or nothing but there's things that goes on under the table that we don't know and things get rushed through and I just don't believe that this is the right step or
thing to do with this uh property now I have seen that property flood on 309C all the way across that road nothing but won't. And I'm a firm believer in agriculture, but and I know that at some
point in time it's going to happen as far as expansion, but we need to think about how fast we're doing this and who all involved in this and who is going to suffer the most in this and it's going to be the citizens and the taxpayers of
this county. I do not really think the county is going to reap a lot of benefit and revenue in return for this. So, think about it long and hard. I oppose. Thank you, sir. Uh, who's next? Come up,
please, sir. And if you filled out a card, when you get up there, tell me your name so I can pull it out. Good afternoon, board. Uh, my name is Carl Dennard. Uh my wife and I, Donna, reside at 124 uh Peine Court, about a
mile away from where this development is. My concern from this standpoint, what we're talking about right now is urban sprawl. Uh, one of the things that I believe our comp plan addresses is the fact that urban sprawl, we want to avoid
that changing. While you look at the uh what the staff has said here, it meets certain points within the development code to change the uh a uh zoning over to the uh urban reserve. I
still feel that it meets does not meet quite all those. I think we've glossed over some facts that uh the comp plan says they uh that there's overabundance of this type of um
land development codes within the county. There's they encourage infill within the existing uh areas of that and that just doesn't really see what what happens here. To me, you're opening this is this is the definition of urban sprawl. This is what we try to avoid
within our comp plan. You're opening up an area that uh to the west of this is all agricultural related land under the ownership of Warehouser International. They own in excess of a thousand acres.
By changing this to the urban reserve, it now buts additional a zoning that's going to meet those same requirements that you're saying that this one does. Therefore, you're looking at urban sprawl. And that's where I think we've
not gotten past what the comp plan has dictated and and suggest within that plan. So therefore, I oppose it based on that issue. Thank you. Anyone else like to speak? Come up, please, and give us your name
and and address. Do you have a card? Have you filled? She took it earlier. Okay. Name's Tim Williams. Uh 10128 Grove Court, Interlock in Florida. Um I'm in favor for it. Uh I'm not one for massive
developments in Florida. I I don't like it. Uh he was talking about urban sprawl. You actually have that happening out here on 207 and somebody else mentioned the name Alfred. He sold property to the developer to build track home developments out in the middle of farmland. So it's not much difference.
Thi this is going to be more of a if I understand right it's going to be more commercial. And one thing in Putham County I ran for commissioner last year. One thing I kept hearing is everybody's complain about their property taxes. Well everybody raising property taxes because they don't have any tax base
here. Your tax base is coming from commercial property. So, it'd be nice to have a little bit more commercial coming in here to generate a better tax base so we can have better services. So, I I I think it'll be a a beneficial thing. Um, when you come into Putham County, you
see the sign says, "Welcome to Putnham County, outdoor friendly." This is an outdoor friendly activity. You have the bass tournaments here. You have hogwaller here. You know, this is going to be a motorsports complex. It's not going to be, you know, Daytona track coming in. It's it's it's a small track.
I've been to them before. Um, I do do I I own a repair shop. I do drive cars on tracks and have fun. Um, it will bring some revenue into this county to help our tax base. So, I I understand some of people's need, you know, they live close by it and say the noise, but you're
right by an airport. You're you're by some commercial properties and stuff that's making noise already. It's not going to be, you know, the top fuel cars you see at at Gainesville that you can hear two miles away. This this is a different thing. And a lot of it's more street car type stuff. it it's not going
to be my understanding it's not going to be a major racetrack like I said like Daytona you're going to have all this stuff coming in but you know there's a lot of people that have spent money that are going to come in use our hotels use our restaurants you know use our stuff so it'll benefit Putham County on a financial side I think so for that fact
I think we should we should allow it to be amended for the urban use thank you Mr. Williams both. Okay. Remember, we're speaking only to the land use change. This is not to the
zoning. Yes, ma'am. Allegri Kitchens, 1027 South 12th Street, Palaca, Florida. And I think changing the land. I know the flume has to come first before the zoning change. Quick question. If I speak here on the flume, will I also be able to speak on the zoning?
Yes, ma'am. All right. Uh, as long as you don't say the same thing. Well, I'll pick and choose. But I think that I think this is a little bit premature until you get more information, the information on the from the water management and from other areas before this goes through with the
land change. Once you do the flume change, then you've got the underlying part changed. And that is the argument to change the zoning. And that's all I'll say right this moment. I'll save the rest of it for zoning. Thank you. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Madam Chair, I would like to take a
point of opportunity to tell you um when people were filling out the cards, I told them if they wanted to speak on both to put both. So that's probably why you don't have all of the cards. That's okay. Yes, ma'am. So name and address. Kevin Bam, 174 Kelly Smith
School Road, Palaca, Florida 32177. At some point you cannot make PLA Gainesville, Jacksonville, Fleming Island, Green Cove. I'm from a farming family
and we've got to have farms. We've got to have trees. We've got to have livestock. Period. The end. Somebody has to stand up and say enough is enough is enough. You cannot if you need this kind of stuff drive to it is all I can tell
you. There's been a racetrack in S Suma that's open and closed about 29 times over the last 60 years because I've been here that long. So I think that we need to go back and leave us the way we were.
Leave us the way we were. Something is not right with the tax base. Obviously it can't be. But we got to address that. We have enough business in this town. We can't all be big dogs. We just can't. Somewhere along the line, somebody's
gonna have to There's going to be little counties. There's There just is. Drive to wherever you need. I'm opposed to it. Thank you. Anyone else who'd like to speak on the land use? Come on up.
James McDaniel, 135 East Corbina Way, Floor Home, Florida. I'm opposed to the future the future land use designation change due to for uh three reasons. The first reason being that the Putham County comprehensive plan addresses
urban sprawl and a mixeduse development that is focused on a racetrack does not reduce urban sprawl. It will accelerate it. Mixed developments would be nice to see in this county, but mixeduse developments that are focused on residential areas are the ones that actually do reduce urban sprawl.
My second concern is with the circular logic that came up with this racetrack. So we can we're going to rep um reszone this area because it's next to a really noisy airport. What happens in 15 years when the circle comes back around and we want to reszone the other a areas
because they're next to a racetrack and an airport and other industry and then it's just this accelerating process of concrete taking over the rest of our agricultural lands. My my second concern is that is PLA
going to be able to support a project like this? We don't even support a movie theater in this town. How are we going to support a racetrack for 15 years for the whole phase 2 development to occur? Putnham County is rural. Putnham County
is in the country. We live here because it's rural, because it's country. Our land is our most precious resource. God told us that we are supposed to protect his land and we need to be responsible stewards with his gifts. Thank you. Thank you.
Anyone else like to speak on the land use? Okay, I'll close the public hearing portion of this meeting and bring it back to the board. Madam Chair, I do have a question for Zach. Zack, early on you made a comment that this will leave
our our board go to the county um the county commissioners and they're going to make a decision whether they submit that to the state for review. That's correct. Yes, sir. So just for my own knowledge, what are the benefits of submitting it to the state for their review? So when it when we submit it for state
coordinated review, the state the primary benefit is that the state land planning agency, Florida Commerce has the ability to review what is being proposed by these applicants and by default this staff report to ensure that it is consistent with certain state
legislation like urban sprawl and infill. uh to ensure that this development is consistent with our comprehensive plan. So it is a a secondary checks and balance if you will from a higher state agency over what we're proposing. And then the other
agencies like uh Florida Department of Environmental Protection, Florida Department of Health, Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, right? All of the Florida departments um will take a look at this as well and make sure that it aligns with their uh statemandated
requirements for development. Okay, makes sense. Previous applications similar to this or some type of scale, I think you made a comment earlier, had to be over 100 acres. Uh that 100 acre threshold changed about three years ago. I believe it used to be
10 acres. Um, but that is state legislation and it's because partly that uh the Putham County is a rural area of opportunity as designated by Florida Commerce. Define that. Um, o good question. Uh, it's something
to do with population, right? Census data. So, we're looking at the 2020 2020 census data. Population less than 75,000 people. They also take into uh factor uh gross domestic product, GDP, median
income, you know, those those fundamental attributes that help determine whether a county is, you know, big and urban and developed or small and rural and underdeveloped. So, has it been past practice of the board to submit it to the state for
review on other applications that would meet that criteria? Yes, sir. And um so I've been here for four years in September. This is the first largescale map amendment that I've seen uh in my tenure here. I believe the last one was like right when I was
starting my career in Putham County and it was the Udo Family Trust um down in the Georgetown area and they were going they were detensifying going back towards an agricultural designation.
Thank you. Any other questions of staff? Is this property ultimately going to end up back in the uh city jurisdiction for because of utility requirements? So that that is at this point it's unknown. Um we'll probably discuss this
at length in the next application presentation, but the city uh the planning director for the city of Palka has made the comment that if they connect to city water and city sewer, they will be annexed.
In that that event then they would go through essentially three public hearings. The first to consider annexation, second to consider future land use map adoption. Third to consider zoning map adoption. Is what we're doing today compatible to
what they do? Um can you elaborate on that? Well the process of going through they'll do a land development. They'll do a land change. They'll do a zoning change. They won't accept it as it comes in because when it leaves us, it might
be already reclassified and reszoned. So, I've never worked for a municipality that's that's annexed property. Um, so I've got very limited experience with it, but at face value, um, the county may have different designations than the
city does. In fact, we know they do. So they would more or less try to align the two with what the city offers. Mr. Kennedy, you want to come help us click? Yes, sir. Please do.
Uh the decision to annex has not been made. Obviously, the city has let us know that if we're to use their water and sewer facilities, they would like us to annex. Um if we do annex uh we will be required within a year to change uh the future land use map and the zoning
map once again to match. But you got to expect if they're going to make us annex what they're annexing and that would be more of a uh or formality at that point. But they do have to change their maps to be consistent with their plan and their uh
zoning requirements as well. And to answer your question, the benefit because you get that secondary review, but it's also a requirement. You don't have a choice. We have to submit it to the state if it's over 100 acres. So, it's not necessarily a voluntary act,
but it is uh it does serve to provide a a state level review of all those issues that from all the relevant agencies. So, okay. I'm going to ask the $64,000 question. Yes. Why come before the count? I know it's
existing county land. Why not go for annexation before you go for all of this? Why do this twice? Well, we're not sure annexation is the answer for this project. Okay, it's a short version. And again, I think that can be discussed in the next, but
it's not required to do what we want to do. So, we're not sure it's the answer. It's nothing against black. We just got to uh do what's what's best for uh the project and that decision- making process. Okay. Thank you, sir. We've closed the public portion of this particular uh
case. We'll open it back up for the next one. Thank you. Thank you, Patrick. Okay. Any other questions of staff? Bring it back to the board for discussion. Possible motion. In the grand scheme of things, I think
that I think the uh future land use amendment is probably consistent. So, I'll make a motion that we approve the uh which one are we at here? PUD 253. Yeah, PUD 25003
CPA CPA CPA 3 CPA 25 CPA 25 0000 is that three? Yep. Okay. as it is consistent with goals and objectives of the land development code
and comprehensive plan. Yes, sir. Uh do I hear a second? I'll second. Thank you, Jason. All right, we have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? Hearing none, I'll call for the vote. All in favor, please signify by saying I.
I. All oppose, like sign. Chair votes I. Thank you very much. Turn that air conditioner. I don't know that we can, but is there anybody here on in in the
building, Zach? You think that could? Anybody got a jacket? Eggland Stanley? Stanley's cold. My fingernails aren't cold yet, so it's not really cold. I have had that happen in this building.
Okay. Well, we have our name plates. I'm Susan Roberts. Um, I'm an atlarge appointee to the planning commission and um, I live in South Putnham. Mr. Hafner, introduce yourself.
Microphone. Microphone. That's the wrong button. What is that one from? I'm Jerry Hafner. I've served on the commission now for a good number of years. Uh background in construction,
real estate, and water management. Mr. Morris. Uh Justin Morris. Okay. He's fairly new to the board. Uh Matt Williams. Um filling a partial term of the atlarge.
I'm Jason Sheffield. I reside at 315 Round Lake Road. I'm a relatively new member. I think I've been on the board now for about eight months. Stanley about four years. Thank you, Ed.
John Maluda from South Pman County and my father and BW Layman built that racetrack in Satsuma many years ago. I don't advocate one way or the other. Just adding color.
Yes, sir. Yes. Yeah. We We need to remember to keep our microphones close. Yeah. Everybody look at me when that happens. So, yeah, I'll speak into the microphone. Your job is to keep Jerry's microphone close to him. Sorry. Sorry.
Pardon? Uh, Mr. Mike Perry is board attorney. Thank you. Thank you. All right, we're going to go into the next case. And I take it, Zachary, you're still up.
Are you ready? Yes, ma'am. Thank you, Madam Chair, for the record. Zachary Baker, Planning and Development Services. This is the presentation for PUD25-0000003. This is a zoning map amendment from agriculture to planned unit development.
Uh planned unit development is a sightsp specific zoning designation. We uh have had a couple PUD cases here today, so I won't belabor what that means exactly. Uh the applicant as amended is WA207 LLC
and the agent as well as Mr. Kennedy as well as other representatives of the Douglas Law Firm. Again, same 12 parcels as the future land use application. And the request is for the same and uh a zoning map amendment for the purpose of
establishing a motorplex with uses associated with driver training, enthusiast storage and driving, commercial and industrial uses and ancillary residential uses. A list of all proposed uses is provided within the
staff report and in this presentation. Similarly here, um, one and a half miles of road frontage. That's over a mile on County Road 309C and over one half mile on State Road 100 Reed Street. Currently
used for civil culture. Uh, some are registered as bonafide farms with the property appraiser. Others are not. No permanent improvements are established on the parcels subject to this application. upon submittal
um or I'm sorry upon approval um no upon submitt I was correct uh the PUD documents were routed to the development review committee via email comments were requested staff compiled those comments and returned them to the applicant you
can see those comments within the agenda packet as well um the property is adjacent to the city of Paka municipal boundary use is adjacent to the property include the Karkin airport, St. John's River Water Management District personnel facility, Putnham County
Business Park, and residential and agricultural uses. The proposed development is also in the same vicinity as Georgia Pacific. Municipal water and sanitary sewer are within the immediate vicinity.
Again, uh should this PUD be approved, uh the applicant will then be required to submit for the development review committee. It'll be a two-part review, one preliminary where we get a little more details than what was provided in today's application. Uh once that is
found to be satisfactory by the DRC, then they will be required to submit their final development plan. That is where we will see very specific details about setbacks and where the uses are going to locate so on and so forth. The
DRC is comprised of several agencies uh including Department of Transportation, Putnham County Public Works, Emergency Services, and St. John's River Water Management District. They will all review their plans independently for compliance with their own perspective
regulations. Along with those normal reviewers in the DRC, the city of Palaca will also have the benefit to review this. Um, with that would be the airport manager as well.
So, the proposed uses, there are quite a few of them. So, they're broken up apart into three different slides. Um, I'll just run down the list real quick. We've got motorsports complex, lodging, retail sales general, retail sales food, retail
sales beverage, including but not limited to the sale of alcoholic beverages for on and off- premise consumption services. Office educational being specific to driver training, industrial arts, and related education does not include primary or secondary
schooling. clubs, commercial recreation and entertainment outdoor commercial recreation and entertainment indoor recreation activity based recreation resource-based cultural light industrial which shall include but not be limited to industrial
light manufacturing fabricating processing warehousing distribution packaging or assembly except for those areas designated as a special flood hazard on FEMA firm maps. Agriculture general, residential single family,
residential multif family, garage plexes, airplane hangers, event meeting space, and temporary outdoor recreation and entertainment. Here I've taken the liberty to kind of break down a couple of the uses that
we've seen in the previous slides. So the motorsports complex, um, this is an abbreviated definition. The full definition is within the development agreement. Um, but essentially this is more or less copy and paste directly out of the Putnham County Land Development
Code. It would be a road racing track or circuit or a collection of such facilities of various types and related facilities designed to provide the opportunity for one or more of the following. To race for auto clubs, amateur and professional drivers. To
test landbased motor vehicles. to hold driving school, including driver training of first responders. To compete or practice in road racing, dirt track circuits, competitive and recreational go-kart circuits, monster truck rallies, mud bogging, motocross,
and drag racing events. And a garage plex is a unique residential living space with a garage that combines function and style as a hybrid of a garage and an apartment or loft and can be used as a work living
space. This is a definition proposed by the applicant. So in terms of why are we doing a PUD? Uh to start out, it's required by land development code section 45-193C.
Uh that reference section describes a motorsports complex. Um pursuant to LDC section 45221B, the proposed PUD includes mixeduse development providing for an integration of housing types and non-residential
uses. Provides flexibility to meet changing needs and consumer preferences. It utilizes existing vegetation for buffering requirements, constitutes infill among nearby developments, and is governed as a large-scale complex
development with unique design features which would impede the development if regulated through traditional zoning designations. This application adheres to all three criteria defined in LDC section 45223A
and the proposed PUB adheres to five of the eight objectives defined in LDC section 45223B. The applicant will require or will be required to demonstrate compliance with those other three criteria if the
proposed PUD is adopted during the DRC review. Here we can see an aerial image of the property, future land use designation, the zoning map,
FEMA flood zone, jurisdictional wetlands, again a conceptual plan, and a little bit bigger uh zoomed in on the utilities.
Staff recommends approval of the request to amend the zoning map from agriculture to plan unit development with the staff amended development agreement as the request is consistent with the requirements for PUD zoning consistent with the future land use designation
that is proposed and is consistent with other comprehensive plan goals objectives and policies. other questions of staff. If uh for some chance those other three aren't in compliant, then what?
Well, so it's it's one of those things where if they're not in compliance, then there's going to have to be some action taken, whether it's an amendment to the PUD or um just general adherence to the the land development code. So the
development review committee um we can we can deny a project but we can't necessarily turn it around and push it away. Um when it goes to DRC the entitlements are there and then the applicant has to demonstrate compliance with all of the regulations that are in
place. In the event that um there is some sort of conflict between regulations from two different agencies, the more powerful agency would supersede. Other questions? So, Madame Chair, I have I have a series
of questions um throughout the packet and I think now probably is the best time to start going through them. Go for it. the Zach, it seems like this whole development is predicated on getting water and sewer. Uh it seems like everything I read says you have to connect to the municipal water system or
have some type of water treatment system or septic or sewer system available. The county has nothing in the area. Correct. By way of water or sewer, the county does not have any infrastructure for water sewer in the area at this time. That is correct. Okay. I I like the concept of this
thing. I think it's personally I think it's phenomenal, but it goes back to where we're going through a large effort here to potentially approve something that won't take flight unless we have water or or sewer available. I would assume that the developer has the
ability to do their own water treatment facility. I would assume they have their right to do their own sewer unless there are limits or restrictions saying that if it's within a thousand ft they have to connect even though it's a municipal um because if they're not certain they
want to annex in they can't get the water and sewer because the city won't provide it. So I have some conration regarding regarding that to begin with you know. Can I take a chance to to respond to that? Absolutely. So, um they are not
forbidden from applying for a package plant water wastewater through Florida Department of Environmental Protection. Um in the event that this does get approved, that would be uh a satisfactory um requirement for water and sewer. We
do not anticipate this project to be on private well and septic. It will be some sort of a smallcale utility facility that we would see for a municipal area. Um, it'll go through the same regulatory process that the city's water and sewer
infrastructure went through and the same process that the county's water and sewer infrastructure goes through. Okay. So, earlier I heard people make comments about they're supporting it. Here's some neighbors saying they they support it. I look at the setbacks. The setbacks look very adequate. I see that
you guys have redlinined some items on the setback on the uh in the modified PUB, but the the maximum impervious service of 80%. That seems a little high. Yes, sir. So, that aligns with what the proposed future land use
designation is. Um so within the comprehensive plan and within the urban reserve future land use policy it establishes floor area ratios and imperous surface allowances for non-residential and residential uses. So
in this case being that the primary use is non-residential. Um 80% is what the comprehensive plan future land use category would allow for and that is by default what the applicants are petitioning for through their development agreement. It's not to say
that they have to go to 80% impervious surface, but it gives them the entitlement to go up that high if necessary. Okay. Well, it looks like they got enough jurisdictional wetlands on it to accommodate some of that storm water and they'll have an engineered
storm water plan. So, sure, I think probably not too far out of the ballpark. So, in the developers agreement, this this should probably be reviewed not knowing which way they're going to go annexation or provide their own their
own package plants. But, uh, items 5.2 and 5.3, the red line from from county staff says industrial uses shall connect to an existing municipal water site. And when I hear municipal water supply, my assumption is that's the city. It's not
their potential independent water supply. Yes, sir. And the reason that staff made that proposal, I'm trying to thumb through it. Essentially, what you get is within the comprehensive plan, you got to follow a chain. So, bear with me. But
with the urban reserve future land use category, it allows for industrial uses so long as it doesn't exceed 20% of the land area of that urban reserve district. So, you've also probably seen the 66 acre threshold. That's where that number comes from.
Well, also within that industrial use urban reserve, it states that industrial uses are permitted, but it has to align with the industrial future land use designation in the Putnham County comprehensive
plan. Within the industrial future land use designation, it states that industrial uses shall connect to existing utilities, just existing utilities. The only existing utility that is known
would be city water and city sewer. And so staff can't waver from the comprehensive plan. Um the objective here is to just kind of this is what the language says that we have to abide by.
um if the attorneys want to handle that kind of conversation about what constitutes existing um or where the shall may or may not be wavered from. That is something that the attorneys would have to to take up conversation on.
Fair enough. I want to I want to add a question to that. Should the owner choose at the outset of the project to put in the packet water sewer plants and everything, would that be considered an existing system?
Should they utilize the I'm sorry, I wasn't if if they were to go ahead in the initial part of the project upfront put in the water and sewer system themselves, their own, would that be considered an existing water and treatment? See, that's a great question for an
attorney to answer. Mr. Mr. Kennedy, you want to answer that? It's existing. So, go ahead. Okay, Madam Chair, I think that's it for Okay, for me, Jerry,
Zach, at what point in this entire development program? Um, I know we go through it twice, basically. When do time operation times consider come into consideration, noise levels, things like that, where do they show up in this process? So there there is uh some
limited language within the development agreement that stipulates that the hours of operation are from I believe it's 7:00 a.m. to 1000 p.m. with the exception of eight special events held throughout the year in which that
amplified noise could go beyond 10 p.m. But we don't have a schedule. We don't know if it'll be, you know, eight events back to back in one, you know, one month. We don't really know what that would look like. It would be at the discretion of the applicant to uh to
host those events and comply with their development agreement. Staff be looking at ways to possibly mitigate some of the noise problems and things like that. Yes sir. So that's where your buffers and your setbacks come in critical for this type of development. Um and that's
why one of the reasons why staff uh bumped up the buffer and the setback um and the propo the staff amended development agreement and one of the things I was reading was talking about uh uh suggested level that
they were looking for was 125 dB uh which they I think is pretty much what a 737 jet produces on takeoff. That was why I was asking the question where those kinds of things really get narrowed down for discussion.
You you mean like near an airport? I said you mean like near an airport. So in the original to to that point the original was reduced setbacks from residential properties and it was 135 dB
at the property line which would mean severe pain standing on my own property. Staff has amended that and addressed that and increased some buffers and and lowered that. So, I'm a lot more comfortable with with the revised
than I was in the beginning on the the first one. So, yeah. And believe me, unbuffered is not good. Um, any other questions of staff? Okay, we're going to go through a slightly different process with the
owner and the owner's agent. Um, they have asked to have a group of people speak for the owner during their presentation process and we're going to do that. So, I believe Mr. Douglas, you're up first.
Please come forward, state your name and address and bear with me, Madam Chair. They have a presentation. Okay. Thank you. Good evening, Charlie Douglas, 117 North Second Street.
Madam Chair, commissioners, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for the opportunity to speak before you tonight, not just as an attorney, but as someone who believes in the power of bold vision, courageous leadership, and the unshakable potential
of Putnham County. Tonight, we are gathered together and standing at a crossroads as a community, much like generations before us once did. In our past, leaders in our county made decisions that transformed our economic
future. It was vision that welcomed Wilson Cyprus in the 1800s. Hudson Pulp and Paper in the 1940s. It was resolve that opened the door to Simol Electric in the 1980s.
Those decisions were not without risk, but they were driven by belief. a belief that Putnham County could be more, could do more. And tonight, we ask you once again to say yes to vision. Our generation
now has a similar opportunity for a project that will redefine how Putnham County is seen not just in Florida, not just in America, but across the globe. We present to you a proposal for a
planned unit development unlike any the county has ever seen. A state-of-the-art motorsports and driver training complex that will bring worldclass infrastructure, education,
safety, and tourism to our community. This is not just a track. This is a training ground for elite professionals, a safety hub for law enforcement and first responders, a learning campus
where our youth will gain life-saving defense driving skills long before they ever set foot on the interstate. It's okay. Change it around. We got a professional Z. Here comes the expert.
Do it from over here if necessary. What's up? This project is located immediately adjacent to the Palatka airport. The industrial uses to the north include Georgia Pacific.
to the east, the airport and other industrial zoning to the south. This project will encompass over 440 acres and will be a capex investment of over $200 million.
Initially, there will be 50 new primary jobs with annual payroll of more than 4 million and the other additional economic impacts that will be discussed later in our presentation. The long-term vision of this project is
a state-of-the-art driver training facility with dynamic motorsport programming and an a positive community impact for our residents of Putnham County. So, you may ask, who is WA 207? Who are the
Legacies? The Legacy family has a long history in motorsports and their business. Scott Legacy Racing is a multifaceted motorsports organization that competes full-time in
the Trans Am series. Other services include advanced driver coaching and development, race car design and construction and marketing. Tonight here with us is Mr. Scott Legacy Senior. If you please stand,
Scott Legacy Jr. and Mr. Warren Mosler is not able to be here tonight, but Jacob Mosler is. Jacob. This is the ownership team of WA 207. With them is a team of professionals.
First, the architect and master planner is an international architecture firm that is top 100 architects in the United States of America, Cube 3. and their CEO flew in tonight to be with us, Mr. Nick
Middleton. The developer representative is Rimrock. The engineering firm is Matthews DCCM. Is Rob Matthews stand? And also Mr. Rudd Jones. The site development is with Robert site
development and our firm is honored to support on the land use and zoning side. The Legacy family is known for making a difference. They are not outsiders. They're one of us. The Legacy family has been here in
Putham County since the 1960s. They are known for their philanthropic efforts. Boy Scouts of America. They were invited to the National Jamberee to help scouts build a car
screen your machine campaign which is a cancer screening endeavor in order to help more people learn about and see that they have cancer so they can receive treatment.
Mr. Legacy, Scott Legacy Jr. is a cancer survivor and that is his campaign to help save more people from that disease. They also helped the Tom Coughlin J fund
and through FDOT's efforts on bicycle and pedestrian safety. So what are some of the project details? Not to reiterate too much already of what Zach has mentioned, but importantly, this is a driver
training facility. This is a place where first responders and law enforcement will come to learn how to respond to emergencies in a way that will help all of our neighborhoods when a call comes in for their services.
This is a place where we can enjoy together as a community recreation and entertainment. We don't have to ask any longer what can our kids do after school. We'll have a carding facility, indoor and outdoor
activities, arcades, live music festivals on occasion, and related uses. Along with that come retail sales, event and meeting facilities, and lodging. There will be a road course, food and
beverage sales, retail motorsport related merchandise, and this concept of a garage plex. I'm not sure any of you have heard that term before, but it is a place where owners can place their street vehicles and have
a loft on top. And here are some photo representative photographs of what a garage plex looks like. On the bottom floor is where an owner would keep their vehicles and on the top floor would be a loft. There would also be a vehicle concourse
from time to time or motor vehicle shows and also an RV campground for track guests. There will be special conditions that have been worked through and that communication continues regarding uh track operations. A limited
time for that. This is not a 247 facility and there will be a maximum of eight special track events per calendar year that may extend beyond those hours. The reason for extending into uh hours
like 6, 7, 8 o'clock at night is because there are some programs that you'll hear about in in the coming speakers for workforce development. And some of those classes take place after 5:00 in order to train folks in the police academy,
workforce development collaborations, and for our kids in the carting course. Importantly, this project is about law enforcement training. It's about the community. It's about our youth. It's about first responder engagement
and it being a worldclass facility we can all be proud of. This project is not NASCAR. It is not the Daytona 500. This is not a continuous event that goes on for hours
and hours and hours at a time. This is not the Gator Nationals drag racing. This is not dirt track racing where you have 50 of the small dirt track vehicles racing around with open headers at the
same time. It's not Barberville. And through this process, the applicants, the Legacy family, it's been very important to them that they engage with the community, that they hear from neighbors, they hear from folks who have concerns, and I'd like to
address some of those concerns tonight. The number one concern is noise. So, I'd like to spend some some time on this slide here, a decel level comparison.
So at the airport now a jet engine's decel range is around 140. There are two gun ranges beside this project. The ski club and the city of Palatka police department
gun range has a decibel level of around 170. This proposed motorsports facility will have an expected decibel level of around 125. So what do those numbers really mean?
There is a mathematical calculation for what a decibel level here will mean later over there. For every foot you go away from the source of the sound, the decibel level decreases.
And that's what this graph is trying to illustrate. So let's take for example the gun range at 170 after 9,400 ft at we're measuring from the gun range to the intersection of Moes Road and 309C.
Some of the concerned citizens were from the the Francis area. And so it was important for us to do our due diligence and really understand what those decibel levels mean in Francis. And so we chose that intersection of 309C and Moes Road
as a good place for measurement. So from the gun range at 170 dB, 9,400 ft over to Moes Road in 309C, the noise goes from 170 down to 90 dB.
A jet engine taking off at the airport starting at 140 dB. 6,800 ft later to Mo Road in 309C, that decel goes down to 63.
And in between the the jet engine cone and the car on the track cone, you'll see 90 dB put in. And that is for the youth baseball complex. An outside youth event is at 90 dB
for a car on the track at around 125 dB. 6,300 ft later to Moch Road and 309C the decibel level goes down to 49. And importantly
that all of these numbers are shown with zero buffering. This is a straight line of sight calculation and with buffering the sound decibb would be even less. Let's zero in on the airport. This is a picture from the cockpit of an
airplane taking off from Palatka airport on runway 27. This is the runway that heads west. As an airplane is taking off, there is a pattern, a left-hand pattern that a an
airplane would take for touching goes. And touchandgo traffic is mainly for training activities. And this is very common with Embry Riddle airplanes that visit our Paladia airport. You probably have seen them. They're mostly high-wing
airplanes, white with blue lettering, and the last two letters are ER or Echo Romeo for Embry Riddle. And they come over here because we're in the the right distance for what they call a cross-country flight, which is a requirement for them taking classes in Daytona in order to get their private
pilots license. And they use this airport nonstop. And we derive very little benefit, if any benefit, from that. Hopefully one day Invert will decide to buy a lot of fuel from the airport. But as it stands now, they they service their own
airplanes with their own fuel down in Daytona. But they come non-stop and they take off from our main runway and go into this pattern for runway 27, but a similar pattern exists for
runway 1735 and also runway 9. This project is probably the best suited for any land around the airport. This is a compatible project.
Nevertheless, it's very important for the Legacy family that this be compatible with the community and our neighbors. They want to do it. We want to do it the right way. And that is why buffering is very important and setbacks
and that's been a long part of the conversations and dialogues with staff to make sure that we get it right. And the buffering takes place with vegetation and BMS and strategic placement of buildings and the garage plexes to help buffer the sound even
more. Other than noise, the second concern that we've heard from citizens is about traffic. What's this going to do to traffic? It's a big concern around Highway 100 right now in our community, 309C.
And I want to place on the record that the Legacy families is about safety. It is paramount to this project's success. One of the major components of this project is the safety training for our first responders and law enforcement
throughout Florida. And the traffic counts generated from the fully developed project pale in comparison to the numbers generated with a pre-platted residential division. If this land does not become a motorsports
facility, what will it become? If it becomes a residential subdivision and with the recent passage of the Live Local Act, maximum density would be permitted for affordable housing.
And based on the numbers that we have run so far, it would set traffic count soaring into the tens of thousands per day for a residential subdivision. And we will not have that impact. It
will be dramatically less. And importantly for county, this development is for the community. It's for workforce development. And here shortly, you'll hear from President Pickins. It's about career technical education, including our K through 12.
It's about philanthropic endeavors, the the proven history of charitable events that the legacies have had through the decades with the Boy Scouts and with cancer fundraising and awareness, Seamark Ranch, kids and carding.
And because of our rail signals directly across Highway 100, we look forward to engaging more with our state trails in with our outdoor initiative of who Putinham County is known for
and in addition economic benefit. uh Miss Laura Pavas with the Chamber of Commerce will be here tonight to speak to the economic benefits as well for our hotel booking and small business benefits that will apply across our community including downtown.
And here with us tonight is Delo, who will speak more about the law enforcement component and the ability for us to team up with the Florida Sheriff's Association Teen Drive that helps our youth between the ages of 15 and 19
learn how to drive and experience what it means to go off the side of the road on a shoulder and come back on without overcorrecting. defensive driving and vehicle dynamics. So, we ask you tonight to imagine the
economic ripple of hotels booked and restaurants filled, local vendors that are thriving. Imagine a young person from Palata learning to drive safely next to professionals from around the country on the very same track. Imagine first
responders sharpening their skills in controlled environments that mimic real life emergencies, saving lives in our neighborhoods tomorrow because of the training they received today. This is what it means to build the future. We're asking you to believe
again in a brighter tomorrow, to see the same horizon our predecessors predecessors once did. to look past the familiar and glimpse what's possible when we say yes to innovation, yes to inment, and yes to leadership.
With this PUB approval, we plant a flag, declaring that Putnham County is open for smart growth, ready for worldclass infrastructure, and let history show that when the time came to dream big, this planning commission had the wisdom
and courage to do just that. Let us put them on the map for the right reasons. Thank you for your consideration and we ask for your unanimous vote in support and approval of staff's recommendation. Thank you. Would you like to take questions from us
now or you want to do it at the end when everybody's spoken or how do you want to do that? If it'd be okay with Madam Chair, we do have um other presenters that would go. Okay. And then at the end we are available as part of the pick team to answer any of your questions and
depending on which category your question may come from. Sounds good. Um so at this time we would ask for lo. Good evening madam chair members of the board and those seated in the audience. Whether you're here because you serve on
this board or if you are here just to satisfy your own idle curiosity or you have a significant amount of trepidant about this project based on a lack of understanding. Um I welcome you here tonight and I thank you for your time.
This project to me is crucial to the success of our county and putting us on the map and in a good way. As sheriff of Putnham County, safety is something that is mo always paramount
and most in my in my mind. Um and I can tell you that I personally fully support the legacy's proposed race training facility that you've heard about here tonight. This project will provide a safe controlled environment for driver training, including specialized high
performance instruction for our deputies that currently have no means that we currently have no means to replicate here locally. have professional instructors and a purpose-built track means our deputies can sharpen their pursuit and emergency driving skills without leaving our
county directly enhancing our public safety. It also creates a unique public private partnership that you heard Mr. Douglas talk of just a few moments ago. And that specifically is the Florida Sheriff's Association Teen Driver Challenge, which
is a program that is proven to uh save young lives by teaching critical driving defensive tactics. Um could that could be hosted now right here with the uh with the approval of this project. This would allow us to train more of our teams on a professional track, making
our roads safer for everyone. Beyond training, this facility will draw racers, teams, and enthusiasts from across the region. They'll stay in our hotels, dine in our restaurants, and invest in our community, creating economic benefits that uh well beyond
the property. I've known Scott and his family for many years, and I can tell you in my opinion, their integrity is above reproach, and their commitment to excellence is proven. Approving this project is more than supporting a business. It's investing in public
safety, youth and driver education, economic growth, and the future of Putnham County. Thank you. Thank you, Sheriff. Um, I think we have the honorable Joe Pickkins. Thank you, Madam Chair, members. Joe
Pickkins, president, St. John's River State College, 5001 St. John's Avenue, Palaca. um here to speak in favor of the project and suggest to you that at least for us the proximity of this facility and the
college is ideal. It's ripe for a partnership the likes of which um doesn't exist now. Ideally the establishment of a worldclass automotive training facility um colllocated with this facility um would be magnificent.
We don't have the resources or the space to do what could be done with them on our own. And more importantly, the concept of having a college facility
adjacent to or on this property would free up remarkable space on our campus for other programs. You might have read that we're currently in the process of a $28 million res um renovation of our technology building
and we're adding a $22,000 STEM building for workforce training programs um immediately to the west of our technology building. Not having to locate automotive technology on our campus and consume a good bit that
22,000 22,000 square feet will allow us to offer other programs there that are just as desperately needed. We see this is an opportunity that is unprecedented for the college. As Mr. Douglas mentioned if this doesn't go there a
large sub subdivision could a large subdivision might create more stance for my college but it will not create educational opportunities like this project would and we would suggest it's good for the community it's good for the college and it's good for
Putham County thank you thank you um the honorable Bobby Thank you, Madam Chair. Members, it's good to see all of you. I want to talk to you just a little bit about u my perspective of this project.
And to do that, I need to tell you a little bit of story. Lifelong person from Putham County. By the way, my address is 103 Sherry Lane. Through my career with seminal electric, which 37 years, I spent tremendous amount of time in community service. All because
of the same things you're here for, moving and giving quality of life improvements to our community. After retirement, I was encouraged to run for the legislature. I ran served eight years in Tallahassee. Uh very rewarding opportunity. But during that
time, uh the first thing I wanted to do was improve the quality of life in rural Florida. So I started a campaign called Rural County Days. and debt quite frankly selfishly for Putham County.
Putnham County uh has always struggled with economic opportunities and growth. You all know that and thank you again for for your positions here tonight. That event started out selfishly with the five counties that I represented and
has now grown to 28 counties in Florida. 600 people come to reception, thousand people come to the courtyard yard. Why do I tell you that story? Because rural communities have a place in Florida and with thousands of moving to Florida today, there's opportunities in Putnham County for us to embellish that
opportunity. If I were to read you a few facts represented my last few years in the in the legislature, Putinham, portions of St. John's, portions of Clay and portions of Marian. I had the opportunity to speak with um the office
of economic demographic research. So let me read you. Projections are for Putham County without an anchor, without an opportunity for growth, without development. From 2020 to 2045, the projections are
that we'll grow 2,000 people in Putham County. For Klay County, the projections are they'll grow 64,000. They're already at 219,000. Putnham is just about 74,000. Marian will grow
91,000 people in 20 years and St. John's will grow 161,000. We're growing 2,000 based on that projection. We know this rural area that uh we see has not developed. We know that um some
things that could occur there would not benefit the community as we've all heard. And so I took the opportunity while in Tallahassee to talk to some of the large developers. I actually know some billionaire developers out of Jacksonville. And I asked them the question. I said, "What is the problem
uh with growth in Putnham County? Why can we not grow?" And so the answers are these. And these were quoted comments. It's a weak market demand. Population growth is slow. We don't see an opportunity to build and grow in Putinham County, but we do in these
other areas. And it's it was hard for me to grasp that when we have a place like the St. John's River where people will move to for growth opportunities. They said we have a limited infrastructure. When we worked on infrastructure and infrastructure through some of the appropriations we've gotten from the
House and the Senate has grown in the city of Platin, but we need to continue to build that infrastructure. They also said some of the regulatory changes were very difficult and some of the planning and zoning changes in Putnham County were difficult. I'm going to say in the past, not currently and
not in the future. There was competition from neighboring communities and the competition would roll out the red carpet for some of these communities to develop. But mostly what was upsetting was the reputation and the perception of Putinham County.
Stagnant, economically stagnant, an industrial town to some degree. Education was not where it should be. Education's improved in our community. We're at the state average now as far as graduation. So those are the things that were disappointing to me. I think the
opportunity for this motorlex to develop as we talk about can be an anchor for our community can be a a state-of-the-art worldass facility. Now I'll tell you Scott Legacy and I went to high school together and Scott
Legacy is a person of impeccable reputation and ethics. Um, I've had the opportunity to connect with him some over the last several years and I can tell you that if he does it, he'll do it right. So, please consider and give us a unanimous vote for this opportunity. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Payne. Um, Mr. Douglas, who do you have next or anyone from the chamber? Okay. Thank you. Good evening uh madam madam chair and the committee. I'm Laura Pavas. I'm the president of the Putnham County Chamber
of Commerce 1100 Reed Street in Palatka. This uh with me here is Kimberly Morgan. This is our vice president of tourism for some um some additional comments. We're here to express our tremendous support for the project which will be located at County Road 309 in the the
PUD. This project boasts phenomenal benefits for our local business community and it'll produce great revenues to support our public sector needs and it'll reduce the property tax burdens of our residential community.
This $200 million plus project will generate significant revenue for the county. The majority of the condominiums will be occupied by owners that have their primary residents elsewhere. The condos will not qualify for
homestead exemptions and they won't be impacted by Florida's portability savings. The majority of the unit owners will also not utilize our school system for their children and these are huge cost savings for our community. They'll have low service utilization of our
publicly funded resources and we anticipate that they will contribute significantly more in revenues than they ever redeem. The project estimates over $6 million in advorum taxes annually
into our budget. The project will generate significant impact fees estimated at over $4 million and these will save our residents from the burden of new growth. The impact fees will be used to support the needs
of the project instead of the residents needing to pay for that growth. The project will drive sales tax revenues into the community through fuel and and fluid sales on the site and off the
site. The owners will also be spending significantly in our local business community in our restaurants, in our retailers, in our local shops. These owners will have significant discretionary income that will pour into
our community and they'll be strongly supporting our local business community. This project will create significant highwage jobs for our local residents, jobs in hospitality, automotive, manufacturing.
The estimated 50 plus jobs should create $4 million in annual payroll for our local economic impact. And the the project in total will have an annual impact of we estimate $20
million a year. This project also promises a plethora of public facing components which you've heard about and Kimberly Morgan is going to with you about some of those. We urge you to support this project for the
economic impacts and the support that it'll have to our local community. Thank you. Good evening, commission. Um, we are really excited about this project and uh from a tourism perspective and and the
quality of life for Putham County residents. Um, the additional phases of this project will include a go-kart track for public use. This will be a wonderful family entertainment complex for our residents and visitors to enjoy.
Phase four of the project also includes what will be Putinham County's first four-star hotel. This level of sophistication will be a huge adv huge advantage for our business community to entertain clients, for our visitors that
desire a more high-end experience, and for anyone celebrating a special occasion and just looking for something to enhance their stay. Putnham County has a has a a hole in need in need of um
this type of caliber of rooms um in the hotel space. As these rooms typically book out during special events and um fishing tournaments and and a variety of different special events that we have within our community. Um they are
seeking that higher standard stay. The hotel rooms will generate tourism development taxes, which are the one tax that our residents do not pay. Visitors pay this tax when they enjoy our lodging facilities throughout the county. We
love those that come visit, invest in our community by spending their money here and then leaving. It creates a huge tax savings for our local residents. We are greatly anticipating the racing
museum as well slated for phase 4. This will this will be another great attraction for visitors and be a point of pride for our local residents. Um we look forward to hearing that you support
this project because it's about economic v vitality for our community and improves the quality of life here. Thank you. Madam Chair, Commissioners, Jeremy Alexander, 134 Timberlane, Palaka,
Florida. I am honored and humbled uh to be here tonight to read a letter of support from a member of our community that uh their family has been in our prayers for the last 12 to 14 months. So we'll get through this um August 13,
2025 to whom it may concern. We are the Ryans David and Marlene. We have lived in Putham County practically all our life. As local business owners and taxpayers, we are so excited to hear of this new venture coming to Putham
County. For years, this county has held back from expansion and progress, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, keeping our small town appealed. We would love for our grandchildren to stay here and build build their life here in this county. This is why we favor ventures
like this. If approved, the project will provide jobs, tourism, a new tax base, and income for local businesses, providing services to the new influx of visitors. In short, we want a growing, healthy community. We
are not concerned about traffic issues as this this is not a spectatorbased endeavor. No one can tell our family how bad Highway 100 is. We know We are relying on FDOT to provide
support and determine that an upgrade is already needed. We are currently building a new home at 119 Springside Shortcut Road, our final home. Our business is also located on Springside Shortcut Road. We're a stones throw away
from the proposed facility. At night, we can hear the chipmill running ariation pumps for the oxidation ponds at Georgia Pacific. We can hear music at times from the event venue next door. During the day, planes coming in from the nearby
flight school make numerous buzzes over our property. Also, the traffic on 100 with the loud exhaust and Jake brakes. Yes, we hear it all. This is progress. We don't feel the extra noise is going
to be a factor, nor the traffic. In closing, again, we support this project. This is a proposal that can change our county for the good. Respectfully and thank you Dave and Marlene Ryan. Aquatic Management Plus. Thank you. Could you leave a copy of that with our
clerk, please? Thank you. Is that it? Are there questions that anyone would like to ask of the ones who just presented of the agents? I I guess the first thing would be uh
great great comment. Uh why Pman County and does a facility like this exist anywhere else in the continental United States? Madame Commissioner, commissioners, thank you. Um, just give us your name and answer. Scott Legacy, sorry. Junior. Um, 258
Baritary Drive. The the question to be clear was do these exist elsewhere and second part of that question sorry why put them why Putinham uh simple answer on do they exist elsewhere yes if if done properly
they become very successful uh the nearest here to here that um would be one in Orlando and built in Tampa um in regards to garage plexus Um I am unaware of a true driver
training facility built uh in the country. Um it's a unique thing that um we've come up with with some pretty smart people um and are pretty excited about it. Our core business is driver training um for a lot of the young upand
cominging NASCAR drivers. Um, with that, having lived outside of this area and being the epitome of somebody that wanted to get the hell out of Dodge and realizing you didn't know what you had. Um, to answer your question on why here is this is dad's
home. And for me, it's a legacy. So, why not here? That's going to be my next question, right? Like, why why not do it here? Why not put them? So, um, we are asking for and have been very
humbled by the level of support that's shown up. Um, many of you we've not met and thank you. Um, this has been, um, stressful to say the least, but exciting. So, did I answer your question? Clear enough.
Did I answer your question, John? Yes, it it did. Thanks. And there's nothing wrong with PM County. I mean, I'm saying the fact that we'd want to do something like here here, which is great. You know, I grew up uh back in the 60s along with somebody else to my
right in Putman County. Okay. From that particular standpoint. So, and we left and we came back. Yes, ma'am. We both did. Hi, Madam Chair. Uh Scott Legacy, senior. Well, I'm really not a senior. He's a junior, but I' I've been been
placed in that area. So, uh commissioners and county staff, thank you guys. appreciate everything and um I think we're we're quite humbled by support and the enthusiasm for the project and I grew up here went to school at St. Monica's then the over on
Hust Middle School then plaque South moved to Elkton after that went to vote in in St. Augustine and so it's always been home we have a place in Federal Point that's uh been home for a lot of years since 88 and um currently staying
in St. has seen our house flooded some years ago out at the river where uh our seaw wall knockingwood will be done here in the next few weeks and we'll start some field dirt in and we'll raise the house and we'll be back there. But um we have just this we've been fortunate to
figure out a way to be in motorsports for a long time, 40 years now. And I grew up in this community looking for opportunities in in that area. I played baseball, loved it, but I really want to be in motorsports and I had to look elsewhere. Um, our our goal is create a
a youth system, engage with the youth, create a safety training program, and then we also do advanced driver professional driver training. So, um, I I will say that Scotty's done a great job and over the last couple years, I've been working more on this project and
some things back here at home and Scotty's been running the program on the road. We race 12 races a year around the country. Um usually about six tests or about 18 weekends a year gone or travel about 18 events a year count the tests
and um he's br to a high level. We just signed a deal with GM racing this year. It's the first 25 but we've we've been able to do it at a high enough level that we we were fortunate enough to sign a a contract with GM rating. We work directly with
them now and they send us kids to develop and also Hendrickk Motorsports. So, um, he and have won the last five races on the road, three national and two West Coast events. So, we're really we're really hitting on all eight
cylinders now. And, and um, and this is something we want to do for a long time. It's it's home to me and I don't want to travel. And if we could build this here, that's selfish. But why not build it here and have the revenues here? And now when right now when we train at a
specific track, go all the way to Kershaw, South Carolina, six hours away. We spend money there, stay in hotels, people fly in up into that area. Why not fly in here and do it? So that's that's really the core of of the reason we want to do it. And I think it'll make a big
difference here. Thank you. All right. Yeah, we have some questions. Yeah, this is probably for the general that were just speaking. Um, my question would be I really like the ideas of the
uh train driver training and all of those other opportunities that are going to be out there. I am curious as to what percentage of the activity out there would you see being used by professional drivers and also in vehicle and engine
development. I think I if if we're lucky and we do our jobs um right, it will be hopefully a good program. Um an actual schedule be difficult to pin down at
this point. Um that's a I think if we do if we build I hate to say if we build it they'll come right like we're we're taking a huge risk here. Um obviously um it's not hard to tell. we we don't have this kind of
resources. Um that being said, we have enough of a rolodex and enough of reputation now that I think we will see groups from outside here pockets of relationships, people we currently train, people we have trained that will
fly in, utilize the project for a couple days, then fly home. The part of the reason to be adjacent to the airport besides the noise is just to be a natural fit is the proximity to the airport. We're hoping for those kind of levels of people that can that have the
discretionary income. Um we have verbally confirmed with GM's driver development program that we work with trainer program. We use we do the younger kids and then the the group friends of mine do the higher level. Um Larson, Chastain, those level guys. Um I
have been politicking for a better term with them to utilize the program for them to come in during the winter for a few days and use it. So you have that level of of people come in here when that comes and that just brings a higher level people if if Chase Elliot or
somebody of that magnitude were to come in. Um we had a very good weekend last weekend with the program and one with their youngest kid at a high level. So conversations went well. The track looks really cool. Um, it's will it also be geared somewhat to
training drivers uh for indie type indie style vehicles? I don't foresee a lot of indie car type stuff. Um, the in regards to bracket the the uniqueness I said there's not a lot of there's no other facility I know of it. The the reason for the facility and
the prop itself lends very well to this. When we looked at this piece of property, it it took him a year and a half to find this piece of property. and and to to acquire it for us. Um is traditionally these types of facilities are built real tight, complex,
um condensed and aren't very safe and the best way you learn is to make a mistake but not pay the penalty. So the idea behind it, as you a lot of green space, that's runoff, you know, plus we like the look, but the main thing. So I I don't know if I answered questions.
It's they're difficult questions to answer, but and and that's been the biggest concern. We we have um I've offered my cell phone number up to pass around to anybody with concerns and I have received concerns. Um, fortunately for for us after sitting
with a majority of the concerns, um, some of which the the letter I just heard to Ryan and was just incredible because he was a concerned individual of it with him being so close. But um I think I think what we've done is found a
great place here that fits and and um the noise again what what Charlie did a good job of showing is I understand the noise is the biggest concern but that being said as you look at it compared to the airport and you look at it with zero
buffering the noise level becomes less than the traffic coming by. So obviously we want to be good neighbors. We feel like we've done everything in our power to be good neighbors and I hope that's recognized. What kind of time frame you guys start out to be in operational?
We we've um 7 to 10. I'm not talking about business hours. I'm talking about time struck until you guys actually Oh, open the door and start helping people out. I've got a lovely saying that our team likes a lot is they don't hold green
flags. So, that being said, this is way faster than what we were expecting even to be at this point, which is phenomenal. Um, I would probably I want to say a year from permitting. They're telling me I'm crazy. Um, obviously we've got a long
road ahead of ourselves through other boards and agencies. So, I I can share. Yeah. So, um, our expectations are if we, um, stay on schedule and and it's approved by you, then, uh, we'll have a
county commission meeting in about 30 days or so, and then we, we should be able to wrap up permitting by November, the 1 of November. We hope we'll do delineation, wetlands delineation during the winter. And we I mean, we're being optimistic and we're ready to roll. So
we could uh we could break ground in first quarter of 2026 and uh optimistic view is that we could have the track and the main buildings in in in place between 12 and 18 months 12 12 and 18 months. So I mean it's
realistic that we could we could have a lot done by the end of 26 and probably grand opening sometime in 27. That's that's I just didn't understand if you guys were you know had a phase construction plan where you're going to be a part of it and then pardon me. I didn't I don't know if you guys were trying to phase the construction where you were building
part of it and then building uh well broke out in phases but realistically phase one and phase two will go right together and and uh we're prepared to move quite quickly. We've got hopefully you'll get to Nick here but worldclass architect. I mean they're
just second to none. We've got uh the Rimrock guys who are developer reps that will will place and and bring in the contractors. We'll try to use as many local people as we can, but but it's pretty well thought out. And um if I
could say that there there are similar facilities to the Circuit Florida or the um Enclave, but they're not really similar when you look at them. They they just have a a road that you can drive around and it's a country club type
atmosphere. This is a full-on uh we'll have professional safety engineers involved and track designers. It starts with us, but we have track designers that that will approve everything we do, but from a safety aspect, it'll be world class and safety and and everything
that's needed to be that way because we we intend to train the best in the country. So, thank you. All right. Before we move into the public hearing portion of this meeting, I'm going to take a minute break and
I'll call y'all back. I'll give you 13 minutes. We'll take it to 7:20. from your speakers and presentation or anything like that. Okay. Just wanted to make sure before we go into the public hearing section, um again, I realize
there's a lot of of passion in this room. There's a lot of of desire in this room. And um we're going to listen to everybody, but we're going to ask you to hold it to three minutes. I've got speaker cards here and I'm going to go through them first and I'm going to go
through them in the order they're stacked, which is no particular order. So, um, and if you've spoken before, I will ask you if you want to speak again, and you're welcome to do that if you choose. Uh, Denny Brham, do you want to speak
again? Denny Brandom here. You already spoke. Thank you, sir. Uh, Miss Kitchens, you want to speak again? Yes, ma'am. Okay, please come up and give us your name and address again. We'll give you three minutes.
Allegri Kitchens 1027 Allegri Kitchens 1027 South 12th Street PLA. I'm also a former city commissioner from 2005 till 20 26 2015 pela city commission. So I am familiar with pela the planning boards and the process going on here. Uh I was very concerned
when you all announced that you got information on your dis up there. immediately. You had not had it previously. We the public were not privy to that information. We had no way to see it. The map and that was referenced by your planning director. You got the information at the last minute. That's
not really good planning work. That's not really good board work. They should not have done that to you and it's really bad for the public. It was only a an enlargement of the map that was in the packet. Well, it was still last minute and I as a former city commissioner, I have an issue with last minute stuff coming up. However, if you're voting on the person
then then you certainly would vote for Scott Legacy. I would too. But you're not voting on the person. You're voting on PUD. You are voting on that. And that you got to take in certain considerations when you vote on that. Forget about the personalities. Forget about the state legislators, former state legislators that spoke to you.
Think about the people and think about this the situation you're voting on very briefly. There's information missing from the packet. There should be a complete title search. FF FAA approval has to be had because it's next to the airport. FDOT has to approve it. There
needs to be a traffic study done on on on County Road 309C, State Road 20, and State Road 100. On the positive side, I am glad that this project has prompted local officials to contact Tallahassee to finally get 100 fixed so we quit having so many accidents, although this may increase it. The comment about
Seolola Electric, I love that. Prior to 1982, when Seol Electric was supposed to come here, Clyde Middleton, Senior, some of you know him, some of you don't. He was pushing for it. I was against it. I worked for him part-time. We argued over it continually. 1982 after it cranked up, he said, "Mr. Allegra," he said,
"you were correct. I was wrong." See said they give local people jobs. They did not. Everything you're promised doesn't always happen, folks. Also, as a planning board, you all have certain things you have to consider that affect things. Two of them are a couple
of them. You have to look at does it how does it how does this affect the traffic pattern? Increase it, decrease it. Obviously, it's going to increase it and especially with the pud that nobody mentioned, the residential pud that's in this area also. What about that trevy increase added to this? Also, how does it affect the property values? If the
property value goes up, people's taxes go up, which is going to irritate them. If it goes down, then they can't sell their property. And is to the point of taxes. If the legislature does what they want to do, they'll get rid of taxes. So, you can't say this is going to increase our tax base because it won't. The quality of life issue, that's number one. And most important, using existing
noise levels at the gun range and other places to say, "Well, that's okay then. It's okay for me to have a have noise that damages people. The gun ranges once in a while. I'm I live in Pala close to the ravines by the railroad track. I can hear them shooting at the gun range and
the ski club on occasion, but it's not all the time. It's only once in a while, but I'm about three miles away. So, if I can hear that, I know I'll be able to hear this. I also could hear the car races." Your three minutes is up, ma'am. Okay. Okay. Well, the bottom line is this is the same argument they use for hogwaller they're giving you for this and with the dirt bike racing that they
the staff said dirt bike racing and they said mud bogging. This is just like hogwaller. How'd that work out for you? Thank you, ma'am. James McDaniel. Oh,
thank you. James McDaniel has left. Okay. Carl Dinard, he you want to speak again? Yes. Carl Dennard. Uh 124 Pine Court. Again, we're about a mile or so away from this.
I want to get focus back to the actual PUD agreement. All this stuff is fluff. Everything's great. I gets me excited. I live in the area. We do feel like we're getting bulldozed over here. Our concerns I don't believe are being met. Our lifestyle is going to change dramatically because of this. But the
putt agreement states two phases. Phase one basically the racetrack. All the little things that go around with that. Okay. Phase two is then all this other fluff and everything. All these other great things that they talked about will happen at that point.
Bobby Payne stood in front of you and said one of the reasons Putnham County doesn't is not developed lately is because of lack of um lack of a market weak market. There's an out in that second phase that
says we'll do this over a 20-year period based on market conditions. If Bobby Payne says there's not market, there's a weak market. Why will they do all this? I just think you got to look back at that and get away from all this fluffy
thing and ultimately what is what what what what's going to go on here. So, it's there's a lot of other things that need to be addressed. Unfortunately, you can't we can't do this in three minutes. They had well over an hour to bring all
that uh to you. And uh I would like to see this tabled at this point for further discussion. Let's get everybody in here and get everybody on and have a better conversation about this. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Alvin Hall.
Has Alvin Hall left the room? Okay. My fingers don't want to work today. Kevin Brham, you're done. Justin Collier, he left. Ed Reed, did you want to speak
again? Mr. Reed left. Tim Williams, are you still here? You want to speak again? Okay. Tim Williams, 101 Twin Lake Grove Court, Interlock, Florida. Uh, like I said
before, I'm in I'm in favor of it. Um, like I said, last year I commissioned I I ran for county commissioner and one of my things was, you know, going around the county, I learned a lot a lot about this county and everybody talk about how poor it is in this county, how there's no infrastructure, there's no services
because we don't have the tax bases and stuff. Um, they're worried about this racetrack and they they keep saying racetrack racetrack. They think it's going to be a weekly event. It's going to be a thing that's going to be constantly making noise. It's not. um from the way they they described it and I've been I like I said I do this I go to a lot of these events I I I drive
fast cars I I I this it's I'm a passion about it but um it's not a constant thing but the revenue stream that it will bring in for this county this county is in a in a deficit on this tax base big time um they get a lot of state and federal funds to to help compensate
um the type of revenue that this they'll bring in is is phenomenal I'm just a small fish I spend few hundred bucks a week. Uh few thousand on a weekend to go do big races. I've been to Daytona, drove my car in there. Um that was a $3,500 weekend just for me and I'm a
small fish. So again, the money that it's going to bring and it's what we need. I don't think the sound levels are going to be a problem. Um again, speaking from a point where this is something that I do, uh it's it's you know, they said Hogwaller didn't help
it. Hogwaller makes a lot of money from bringing people in. Hogwaller doesn't make money from local residents. They make money from the big events that they have where they bring thousands of people in. You've got the bass tournaments that bring thousands. That's tourism dollars. That's where we want people to come in, spend the money, and
be able to leave. You're going to build track home developments out on 207. That's going to hurt county because once those houses are built, their homestead exempt, your tax base is capped. You know, they need more schools. They need more infrastructure, more law enforcement officers. You don't need that with this. This is a business. And
you know, it it's going to have a better tax base because there's no cap on a home session on these garage things that they're going to build. You know, these people are going to spend a lot of money on these places and and they're not going to be capped at the the homestead exemption like everything else. So, it's going to be a great revenue stream. It's going to be a great business thing. I
think um I'm a business owner here. I'd love to see it. It's going to benefit a lot of businesses around here, hotels, the restaurants, and everything. It's going to bring dollars into Putinham County. That's what we need to get this county growing. We don't need to build thousands of homes everywhere and disrupt our ruralness. This ain't going
to disrupt the ruralness of this county. This is just going to bring tourism in and let them leave. So, I think it's a great idea. I think it's going to be beneficial for us. You're not going to please everybody, but when when you got more of a tax base and you can, you know, Mr. Delo can hire a few more officers. We can get a few more fire
trucks because now we've getting another $45 million a year from this thing or something. That's going to be a great thing. You know, they're worried about noise. You know, Mr. lo needs to go out there and get all these trucks off the road that got straight pipes that are make no more noise than these race cars do. So, you know, it's a great thing. I I really do think we'll we'll we'll have
a we'll see a lot of benefit for Putnham County with this coming in here. You know, you're going to have a lot of people. They're going to be training race car drivers like you said from NASCAR and that's a billion dollar industry to bring a few dollars that into Putnham County to help us. I think it'd be great. Um looks like they're
going to build a great facility. There's not going to be a little, you know, track like in Satsuma that's falling apart that hasn't been updated in years and, you know, that track could hold events, but it's just it's old, it's outdated. This, I think, is new and it's going to be a great benefit for Putnham County. Thank you. Thank you,
uh, Mr. Kilibru. Good evening. My name is Ed Kilibru. I live at 146 Bon State Circle. Right off the top of my head, I think about I go by that place twice a day on my way to town and on my way home. I have no I have no reason to believe that it's
going to generate any more traffic than I I see now. I have problems getting off Bon Road every morning for traffic going to Qi Roberts um and coming back from you the bus that brings people to St. John's Water Management every morning. and it's got a mile of traffic backed up
behind it when it comes in there. Um, I'm going to say this, I'm a sixth generation Putnham County, lived here all my life. Um, my children born and raised here. They went to school here and my my my what I wanted to happen for them was the fact that they could go to
school here and if they if they, you know, wanted to, they could stay and go to college and then have a job here. Both of them have done that. I've got grandchildren now that I'm looking to do the same thing. Um I think back to what was it 2008 when the the the crash we
want to call that happened. Um we had GP pull out of our out of our county um out in Hawthorne out at the Chippaw Mill. When they pulled out that it wasn't just GP and their employees that was affected. It was the pup waters. it
people that supplied gas to the pulpers and fuel and tire, oil and all those things. I see this this collelex as building something like that back up. Everything that would come to it with it, you know, to to uh
better it, you know, the the fuel, the tires, the the the hotels, the things that they're saying would happen. I see it as a thing like that. Um, Miss Kitchens alluded to the gun gun range a while ago, the shotgun, the ski club that um I don't know, I guess she
doesn't go out there and sit and listen, but they shoot every day out there. Y'all know that if you're in Putham County, you know that they shoot every day, every afternoon. Bam, bam, bam, into the night. So, you know, and and again, I was I was invited to a meeting the other night with with with the owners and with their with their lawyers
and such that walked into the meeting and just and was listening and um talking about the straight pipes on trucks. We were sitting there interrupted two or three times by Jake brakes, the diesels coming down the 309C and coming down 100. We we had to completely stop talking to wait till
they got by to be able to do that. So, I don't believe that the noise is going to be an issue here. I don't believe the traffic's going to be an issue because you got most as I was told most of these uh people are going to fly in. Um they're already talking about trying to make uh the airport a jet port. So I
mean this was just fit right in like they were saying just fit right in with everything. They fly in, have a taxi way right to where they needed to go, get off, do their thing for a couple days, get back on the airport airplane and go. So I I just see, you know, I just see good things and um I'm sorry to have
repeat a lot of things, but that's Thank you. Thank you, sir. Mr. Benji Bates. Good evening. Benji Bates, 3400 Curl Avenue, Palaka, Florida. Um so I um own property within a mile of this. I'm also
the current chair of the Putnham County Chamber of Commerce. Uh for far too long, um our community has been the one that's passed by and I think tonight's the first step in us leeway. What I heard tonight was economic growth. I heard jobs and I heard quality of life and those are things that our community
desperately needs. First, this is going to deliver economic growth. This project is going to pay full market value property taxes year after year. That's a steady stream of revenue to our local uh municipalities that's desperately needed. Um there's sales tax coming from
the fuel, the parks, the food, the merchandise. There's impact fees. Um as Laura admitted or spoke to earlier, there's millions of dollars coming back into this community. Secondly, it's about jobs and not just any job, but good paying jobs. Um, there's
hospitality, manufacturing, tourism, and all this importantly is backed by local training programs with our local schools and state college that I'm confident will give the locals a chance to be first in line and capitalize on these jobs. I think it also brings excitement, family fun with a go-kart track, museum,
and the county's first four-star hotel. This will raise our profile. This will boost and help, I believe, every local restaurant, shop, and business. and even our emergency teams will fit with a place to train boosting public safety. This is the kind of transformational
opportunities that and we have it right here. I urge you to support this unanimously. We can be the county people drive through or we can be the county people drive to. This project makes us a destination.
Thank you, Brett Sloan. Good evening. Name is Brook Sloan, 2000 Reed Street, Palaka, Florida. Uh today I am here both professionally and personally uh Beck
Automotive starting originally with Carl Beck. Beck Automotive has have a has a long relationship with the Lagos family. It has even sponsored race cars for Scotty in the past, Arca, Truck Series and others. Everything they do and all of
our past experience with them in racing and personally has been nothing short of exemplary. And in business, I understand the economic benefits of projects like this. I would be glad to go into the specific details but sake of time tonight I will
simply say that projects like this the one we saw tonight are economic powerhouses. Job creation, educational opportunities, events, special activity. This is not a racetrack. This is a special use
facility which will be used for many things. all our community and others together. Projects like this can sometimes be controversial. I understand the position uh and the concerns. Frankly, in my
humble opinion, the brilliance of this project is its location. Karan Airport has been in operation since 1938. We should not have the same fear as other locations considering such
projects as we know exactly noise level is and we have for a very long time. The location of the track and the benefits uh of having a wall and surrounding trees to diminish the sound even lower. I could not think of a better location.
We don't get choose who invest in our community. Could you imagine a better scenario for Putnham County? You have the Legacies, a longtime Putnham County family with deep ties who
care about this community. They clearly know racing. They have performed at the highest levels nationally. They have long-term associations and partnerships with groups like General Motors, Racing,
and many others. So clearly, they only work with the very best. Couple of legendary Moser family, visionary leaders in the automotive sports world. We have the right leadership team,
the right vision, the right place, and we have it at the right time. As I said earlier, projects can be controversial. About Art Williams, the only way to not be controversial
is to be average and ordinary. Putnham County is anything but average and ordinary. This project is anything but average and ordinary.
So I hope that you will give this the green light so that you may use a racing term. Gentlemen, you can start your economic engines.
Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. Our next speaker is Luis Rodriguez. My name is Luis Rodriguez, 108 Francis Road, Palaka, Florida, 32177. One thing I had to say about this counter is that there is a problem. Look behind me. Look at the demographics. Who
are you really asking? Talk about we the people or the public. These meetings are being have you guys are having these meetings in the throughout the middle of the day where everybody's working not late in the evenings. Not only that, but I just got wind of this racetrack coming
up and everything happens to be do happening under the table. Now, there's a lack of transparency here. Look at the demographics. I'm not a person who reads the newspaper all the time. And a lot of people my age don't read the newspaper.
They don't go to your county website to look at what's going on because they're not un they're uneducated. But one thing that does happen is that people do read their mail. And I have heard nothing but lies here and only one truth. And that
came directly from the mouth of Mr. Junior. Okay. That they don't have the resources. So if there's no resources, where's the money coming from? That means that there's a bond that's about to be taken out. And if there's a bond taken out, that is a mortgage, a loan, and who's going to pay for that? That's
going to be the people of Palaca who's going to pay for it, not the outside money that's coming in. So this is the reality of what's going on. Not only that, but the city and the county don't have the same exact plans, right? If if the city's doing something,
the county should have it too as well. Everybody should be on the same page. But what's happening is is that I talked to a lot of residents and they're afraid to talk because apparently there seems to be a lot of group of people in here trying to intimidate people and they get
targeted straight at their jobs. And that's a problem. That's a big conflict. Now, I'm putting you on notice right now that I did reach out to the president of the United States, the governor, the secretary of state, the department of justice, and I want them
to come and audit this entire county because what's happening here is that the children are being used as a landmine. Oh, so you incentivizing kids to have fun rather than giving them jobs?
$200 million to give 50 plus jobs. The numbers don't add up. Who's getting these jobs? I I tell you who. Mostly outsiders. Ain't going to be the insiders cuz they don't have the capability to or or or or the
experience. So, this is a dog and pony show going on here and there's a lot of lawyers and there's apparently there's a lot of people in somebody's pocket in here. And when you hear those kind of numbers, 200 millions, a lot of monkeys will dance.
So there has to be a a transparency here going on. That's all I got to say. Thank you, sir. Our next speaker is Wayne Westbury.
Is Wayne Westbury here? Yes, he is. Good late afternoon. Wayne Westbury, 168 County Road 309C. How's everybody tonight? Uh just want to say uh congratulations Charlie. Very good. Very nice. Well
done. Well brought forward. um you know and and you know our house is right there. We're half a mile and of course we're not happy about this. Uh I was impressed though. Scott met my wife and I and uh at the property uh the
other day and we did talk for quite some time and more than likely this is a done deal. But you know I don't even know why we're here tonight. This is more than likely a done deal. But there's a lot of things that that are just not sure that
we would love to see in writing before you all make a your vote, before you make your decision. Uh, you know, we talked about when the car runs around the track. Is that one car or is that 40 cars? You know, you talk about these high performance cars. These things are
loud. And uh I I I don't believe that 140 is correct. I think it's more like 200 dB. But y'all, you know, we we rely on Google to do all this. Um, is there a noise ordinance in Putnham County? And
are we meeting that noise ordinance? You know, um, uh, and the buffers we talk about the the land usage, that wetlands on the right hand side, uh, can we get that in writing that it's going to stay wet lands, that we're not going to mess
with that, that we will leave it there as a buffer. Is that in writing? You know, all these things need to be in writing. Uh, can they build a sound berm? Can we say, "All right, we'll vote on this if y'all build a burm over there to cut down on the sound." You know,
just little things that that would help us feel better that you cared enough to have these things put in writing. We talked about the mud bog. I'm very familiar with the mud bog. I think a lot of y'all know that. That's a loud that's a loud day right there. that y'all have
no idea how loud that is. I I just want to say that, you know, we're talking about this tonight and I would hope that we could table this, get it all in writing, get it written out that this is what's going to happen and then vote on it. Other than that, you
know, uh it is a great facility. They got some great ideas. It's going to be beautiful. It's going to be well done, professional. I trust them. I know Scott and them will do a great job. But I would love to see all this in writing so that I know that it's not going to interfere us in the long run. That's all. Thank you.
Thank you, sir. Our next speaker is Jeffrey. Uh it looks like J uh Barnes. Take your time, sir. Um Jeffrey Barnes, 104 River Shores Road.
We own also on 104 Springside Coventry Oaks Farm. And uh when we first heard about the facility, we were nervous because um obviously the noise like
everybody else after talking with uh Scott and Scotty uh they've kind of assured me that we can tweak our times during the ceremony time when the girls are saying their vows.
uh that they can shift a little bit back and forth and we can on our end too. So he's expressed his um you know his he has promised that we could work together on that and I think this is a great
thing for the county. when we bought the property out there or we were before we bought the property, we came in and talked to Mike Brown who used to work here and um we were telling him about what we wanted to do and and some ideas
and things and I told him I said I love PLA. I think it's the best kept secret in Florida. His response was it's too good a secret. This would be a good tax base for the county. It's money that's needed and uh
we support it. Thank you, sir. And finally, we have Sharon Harris. You knew we'd get to you eventually. I decided to speak at the last minute. Hi, good evening. Thank you for um everybody's time tonight. This has been
very enlightening. My name is Sharon Harris. Um, I live at 115 Francis Church Road. So, um, it looks like I'll have new neighbors soon. So, I because I'm I
came to strongly oppose what was going to be happening and sitting here, I wanted to be enlightened and I have been. Charlie, you did a great job um just going over everything and has and
I've been reassured um hearing the things. I love Martha and Wayne. They're my neighbors. Um but I I am here to say that I am supporting what is happening. I've lived on Francis Church Road for 44 years, so it's not like I've just moved
in there. I love Putnham County. I want to see good things happening and I think this is going to bring about the changes that we I think that this county needs. So yes, I am concerned about uh the
noise. Um I can hear planes coming over my house. I can hear the gun range. But I think that they're going to address those issues. And I I'm here to say I've changed my mind this evening. It's been a long evening, but I've changed my mind
and I I am endorsing um what what they're proposing. Thank you so much. That's the last speaker card that I have. This is the last chance. Going once, going twice. Anybody else want to speak?
All right. I don't see anybody jumping up and running to the podium. I will close the public hearing section of this meeting. Um, are there questions that anyone on the board would have of Mr. Douglas or his team?
I have one. I know in the development agreement it talks about having emergency services on on site at all times when the when the track is running or when things are going. Will those be county employees or
will those be offduty county employees or where you going to get the ambulance from? Just those questions came up. Okay. Scott say senior. Uh so that usually just from experience other tracks we
will always have an ambulance. There'll be two EMTs with the ambulance at all times when there are cars on the track. And that happens a lot of different ways. Some tracks own purchase and own an ambulance and then they just have local offduty EMTs where you're scheduled with the fire department and
and it's a cost. It's just a it's just a cost we we have to bear. If that means there has to be two more two new EMTs in the area, then we bear that cost. So, it's something we pay for. It's it's just a known expense. It's not cheap, but we we won't ever run cars on the
track at speed without an ambulance there. If somebody was to be hurt, think, you know, that's part of the reason why we designed and we pay safety engineers for this and the ambulance was to leave, then you shut down operation till the ambulance gets back or you have to have a second ambulance on site. It's
just it's pretty common in the industry. So, okay. just wanted to ask that question because I know that our emergency services are growing, but they're having a hard time keeping pace with the need with their their vehicles and their staff that they can field out there. So,
yeah, we we intend to work with emergency services and do training and so forth. So, there might be some tradeouts there, but we'll work with them and and and develop a process that's, you know, state-of-the-art. So, that was the only question I had that wasn't answered tonight.
All right, gentlemen. I'll entertain discussion. So, I've got a just a couple of questions because if I didn't ask questions, you wouldn't I wouldn't be me. Um, so I've heard tonight that and I don't know
who exactly in the team can can speak to this that uh I understand that there's some issues or a little obstacle there with hooking into the water and the sewer from the city.
Um, I'm sure that this can be worked out. What I would like to ask is regardless of how that initial piece is going to play out, I believe that the city, the county, and
everybody is going to eventually see in the future a need for extending these utilities. I was just, it's not a requirement, anything else. I just want to have a conversation to see if we could benefit
future or even some of the folks that live in the the residential area there. Is there a way that some of the setbacks can also be maybe set aside as a a PUE or something similar to that so
that that if the water the sewer because right now if you look at the city of PLA and I'm speaking way over my skis I do this part for a living. They got dead heads on the water service and you never really want that. And I think someday somebody's going to see the need to make
the loop and extend it to the west. Is that a possibility? Rob Matthews, Matthews, DCCM, 7 Wald Street, St. Augustine. Uh, great question. Uh, having easements through the site in those setbacks. Absolutely. You know, we'll work through with uh
Putinham County and through the DRC, you know, through that design process to make sure it's available. It's just good engineering design and good uh practicality to loop those systems for flow depending on whatever issues happen but you know um but right now making the
space for this that's definitely been discussed and worked out in the project. Okay. I just kind of wanted then the probably the the next question is in my past life working for a consultant
um we did some work on 309C through that area and there's this weird little jog that throws the rightway off and it starts uh basically where the first proposal for the driveway is and then it goes up through the curve there and it's only
it's very small But it impacts future rightway expansion. Reason I'm getting at this, I'm looking at West Lararsson Road, right? It kind of could comes out of the industrial area and then it goes into a very small neck or smaller neck down road. I was just
throwing it out there as a request that maybe some of that area could be looked at to kind of square that. It's very narrow. I'm just asking for consideration at some point because
one of the feedback I get is the traffic on 30c and it just and then the other piece is there's a actually going to be like an unbuildable area because once you do the setbacks at the at the north right at the 100 at
309C it's got that weird maybe some consideration there and I'm sure that the DRC and the FDOT will ask about that and that's that was going to be my response. We're going to through all those issues like you're talking about through the DRC process right now. You know, we're working through those land
use issues and zoning, but when we come down to the actual, you'll see there's arrows. When we come down to the actual driveway placement, that arrow could be shifted a little bit. We'll work those kind of things out. Understood. I'm asking questions that
have been asked of me. So, no, no problem. I want to make sure I am the best, but I don't I don't Understood. But I just wanted to kind of get it out there so that some of these um maybe we can help with some of the uh reservation on this. Um and then the
last one was uh some folks were wondering about Well, that's not I'll I'll let that one go. I think you pretty much addressed all the rest of them. So this it's basically looking to the future for utility connections and and more
expansion to the to the west. and I appreciate your time and letting me put that out. So, Oh, you're welcome. Okay. Thank you, Matt. Anyone else have questions they'd like to ask of the team? Before we vote, I would like to say that
what's before us tonight is the first gate. And no, we don't have details. We don't have detailed drawing specifications or anything like that. Our job is to get
it off the ground and get it moving. When this project, if it goes forward and if it passes the board of county commissioners, it's going to be heavily scrutinized.
The development review committee which is really not a committee as such but it is representatives from every governmental agency that will possibly have any
contact with or impact on or be impacted by this project and it will be fully vetted through those people. Now they've some of them have gone through it primarily and come back with a few suggestions and questions that will have
to be answered but many of them have not seen it yet. And any project like this, any PUD, we're just the starting gate. But we get the project off the ground, the BOCC takes it from us, looks at it probably
through different eyes than we have, and then the DO DRC gets a hold of it and they'll tear it apart. They'll pick it apart. They'll pick every little piece of it. And if there's something with a right of way or if there's something
with a utility easement or if there's something with power sources or power lines going through the property, they're going to look at all of that and make sure that everything's compatible before they're allowed to go forward before this project gets to permitting.
It's going to take a while. And I think Mr. Scott, you were a little bit optimistic maybe in getting permitting by J by December, but I like optimism. This world is built on optimism. So
that's why we're just doing the we're at 30,000 ft right now looking down the next level. when it gets to DRC, they're going to be coming in for a landing and they're going to be seeing the leaves on those trees and we're just going to be seeing blobs of green, but
it's important to go through this process not only because it's what the state requires of us, but it's also due diligence for Putnham County. And um
I want to thank everybody who has come to speak, who has come to sit, who has come to be here tonight and exercise your civic duty. This is a project be very impactful for Putnham County.
It's not a project that was developed overnight. And unfortunately in development, industrial growth, community development, things like this, projects of this magnitude,
they do have to be kept shrouded. And it's not secrecy. It's just getting the job done before you open the door for a lot of people ask questions. And we're the first place to ask questions.
It has to be that way because if somebody else knew that they were coming to us with this project, can you imagine how many people would be on their doorstep tomorrow saying bring it to us and we're just, you know, we're just
sitting here. So saying that, I hope everybody understands that what has happened tonight was what had to happen tonight. And I can assure you that
we're not sitting up here receiving anything for this. You know, our time is donated to the county and we're happy to do it or we wouldn't be sitting here. So, we thank you. We appreciate everybody that's
worked on this project. You have done an incredible presentation. I was not expecting this tonight. I didn't know what to expect, but I'm happy that we've sat through this and you've waited for us and we've
gotten to this point. Um, at this time, I will entertain a motion. Be before we do that, could I ask a question? Sure. U, the one gentleman that talked about uh knowledge of us to thing tonight, etc., etc. Uh, do we not place little
placards Oh, yes. on the property. I mean is that done a day before a week? It's done weeks before, isn't it? Our notification period, we have to do advertisements in the local or which is the Palaca Daily News.
Uh we have to place the signs on the property and every project that we had tonight had signs up. So, and they're placed every 300 feet or something like that. Um, so I have timestamp photos of when
the signs went out on that property. It occurred on August 1st, um, 12 days ago, uh, placed every 500 ft along the public rideway, which is in accordance with, uh, local
regulations. Mhm. And the advertisement was in the paper Saturday before last. And a couple days before that, there was a a full an ad that was inset on one of
the pages early on in the paper. So, because I always look for those before I get my packet. But those signs are up. They're orange and they are um they don't melt in the the rain anymore. They used to get torn up in the rain, but they're now nice
plastic signs. So, they're placed every 500 feet in front of a project site on the highway and on the roads. And I drove by tonight and they were there before I came to the meeting. So, uh they're all there. But these are these are notifications that are done.
So, thank you, John, for that question. Uh, you had a question. You had a question. Well, I didn't have a question. I really just was going to make a couple statements. Um, this whole project, I mean, growth for growth's sake is not always positive. We
have to look at projects based on how they're going to affect residents of Putnham County. Um, I kind of I kind of in the middle of the road on everything. I do. Do I believe they're going to spend $200 million out there? Probably not. Do I believe noise out there is going to be
as bad as uh the the ones who are here against it? Probably not. I think it's going to be somewhere in the middle. Um I think yes, there's going to be noise. I think it's going to have a great impact. It probably won't have the dramatic imp
that maybe we think it will, but the net result of this project seems to be positive. seems like that that that Putnham County could use and could move forward and
the negatives aren't there to uh to just dismiss this project. You know, everybody when they start a new project in the planning stage has grandiose ideas of what they're going to do. And even if half of this comes true, it's still going to be it's still a positive
effect for Putnham County. Now grant some there's going to be some people that are close to it that may or may not like it. Um but we have to look at it from from a big picture standpoint and ultimately it's going to it's going to be a positive effect in my opinion for Put County. So that's that's where I'm
at on Mner. What are your thoughts? Normal speak. He can't hear you. He can't hear me. No, he's just being just being quiet. Jason,
so there are a lot of positives that I gained from this whole project. Um, from the collaboration with law enforcement to the St. John's River State College collaboration just with those two units alone um creates some excitement for me.
Um, I look at the owners, you know, some of the ributes that I've heard regarding the owners and I I don't know him. I've never met him. I've heard about him. You know, it's it's honor, integrity, commitment to community. Um Wayne Westper to see stuff in writing and I understand Wayne's perspective on that,
but I think you're dealing with people that have honor. They have integrity. So I think and commit commitment to community. So I think those attributes will lead to to get things that this community action for the the decimals the sound the whatever the case may be
whatever the negatives may be I think the owners have shown their commitment resolved meeting with the the area people the the adjacent property owners I mean their their due diligence here is significant I think that level of importance to them you know uh the time frame that um that was mentioned I was
thinking this thing was going to take five years to get to flight we're talking maybe two a lot of positives about this and I'm very excited about this thing coming to light. Um, and I'm ready to motion and move this thing forward. Okay, wait just a minute. Stanley, any thoughts?
I like what he said. All right, John. Okay. Well, I asked a question early early on to the uh folks proposing this gentleman is and the question was why Palatka? Okay. Uh, and uh he made a great
response. So he's not an outsider coming into town getting everybody lick liquored up about this that and the other stuff and he wants to make something of it. Now, are there some tangling participles out there or something like that that
everything's not tied down? Perhaps, but there's a process, the DRC and the other stuff that they'll go through. The stuff about the sewage, the water, all that'll take place. I'm I'm confident. That's why you have meetings. Uh, is everybody 100% satisfied? Perhaps not. But
progress moves on, and that's why we have procedures and policy, and that's what we're doing here tonight. And uh I was pretty excited about the presentation tonight. I was also excited to listen to the folks who were on the other side and hopefully everybody who
was on the other side had an opportunity to adequately uh expouse what that was and that's why we have the open forum. Thank you, sir. Well, I can say I've sat on this board for several years and this is the most exciting project I've ever
seen and having worked on the comp plan and many revisions to the land development code and having sat up here month after month and gone through small projects and
small applications that were great. They were vital to whoever was bringing them forward and vital to some people. Some were bigger. But this is the most exciting project I've I've ever sat in on. And it gives me a lot of hope.
It gives me a lot of hope that Putinham County can do something like this. That there's a vision for Putinham County of this magnitude. and all the people who've been brought
together to work on it. Some of whom I grew up with, some of whom I've known my whole life, others I'd never met before. But I feel like due diligence has been done. And like I said, this is the opening gate.
You got a long race ahead of you. So don't get too excited if we say yes tonight. um because you got to go through several more hurdles to get to where you want to get to. But
I can tell you that from my standpoint, having been up here for like 12, 15 years, this is phenomenal. So I appreciate your passion for your home and for your home county. John and I can both say
this is our home, too. We grew up and left for 30 years and came back and um we wanted to come back and um you know I think it's I think it's great. That's why we're all sitting up here. That's right. This is home and we feel a passion about
it. So now I will entertain that motion. I'm going to make a motion that we approve PUB25000000003 that is consistent with goals, objectives, and policies of the Putnham County Comprehensive Plan and Land Development Code.
Okay, Madame Chair, before you call for that vote, yes, just so I can clarify, are we approving it as presented uh with staff recommendations? With the staff re with the staff red lines? Yeah. attachment 2.5.
Yep. Yes, sir. That was okay. Thank you. Yeah, I'll move what he said. All right. I have a proper motion and a second on the floor on the table. Um, all in favor, please signify by saying I. I. I.
All oppose like sign. Chair votes. Thank you very much. And to those of you who came to speak against it, we heard you and we hope we feel like your answer your your questions are going to be answered. Before my board
gets out of here, y'all can stay if you want to. We've just got to approve the minutes of the previous meeting. Um, I'll make a motion we approve the minutes. Okay, we've got a motion and a second. Ashley, did you get that?
Okay. All in favor of approving the minutes. I I chair votes I. Is there any old business? Any new business? It is 8:13. This meeting is adjourned.