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Uh, anybody that's wishing to speak, make sure you get a card uh and fill it out if you would. Um, this is the public hearing. We are the Putinham County Planning Commission. We are designated local planning agency for the county as prescribed in chapter 163 of Florida

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statutes and we function under the authority of article 11 and 12 of the Pton County Land Development Code. The primary responsibility of the commission is to serve as an advisory board to hear and to make recommendations to the board of county commissioners on the matters related to the provisions of and

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proposed amendments to Putnham County comprehensive plan and Putnham County Land Development Code. The members of this board will review each application and make recommendations to the board of county commissioners at their next regularly scheduled meeting on August 25th, 2026. Procedurally, we will call each case by

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name and number. A member of the staff will then briefly explain to us the nature of each request. We will then take any comments from the applicant or their representative followed by public comment concerning the request. Please direct all comments and statements to the board and not to the people in the

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audience. Before speaking, we will ask each each person to be recognized come forward to the lectern and identify his or herself by name and address. After all persons wishing to speak have been heard, we will entertain a motion from the board. This motion will be voted on by the board members and become my recommendation to the board of county

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commissioners. The board of county commissioners will make the final determination regarding the application. All applicants have the right to withdraw their requests at any time during the application process. Uh we don't have any that have been withdrawn. We do have one that's been

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postponed. Uh if applicants choose to have their case heard a later date, the case will be readvertised in accordance with Putnham County Land Development Code and Florida statutes. All right. Um, first thing, do we have for today's stuff? Do we have any

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conflicts of interest from the board? Anybody? >> No. >> Okay. >> How about exparte communication? >> No, sir. >> All right. On that, we will move forward. Uh, the first case, Rez 2600007

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was postponed. So we will move that to we'll wait on staff to uh get that back in at the next meeting or where they deem relevant after. Uh next case will be CPA260000002.

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>> Thank you sir. Uh for the record Michael Graves Planning and Development Services. Once more, this is case CPA uh 260000002. Uh the applicants uh the application is for a smallcale future land use map amendment from rule residential to

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commercial. Uh the applicant is PC pressure washing uh LLC. Uh the property is 1.4 acres located at 148 Butler Drive in Satsuma. Uh the request is uh the applicant is requesting a future land

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use map amendment to allow for the development of a boat and RV storage and sales facility. Uh the subject site is zoned residential 1A and has a future land use designation of rule residential. Uh the applicant

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has also requested a reszone to the subject property from residential 1A to commercial uh general C3 that will be heard concurrent with this application. The parcel has approximately 195 ft of road frontage along Butler and Bell

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Drive with approximately 325 ft along of road frontage along Sano Road. The parcel is currently vacant. Uh, should the map amendment be approved, the applicant shall still require the approval of the concurrent reszone application to develop the

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proposed boat and RV storage and sales business. Elsewise, no development would be allowed to occur on this property as the residential zoning district is incompatible with the commercial future land use category. Uh, here you can see an aerial overview

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of the property. Here you can see a future land use map. Here you can see the zoning map and the FEMA flood zones and the lack of wetlands on this property.

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Staff currently recommends denial of the request to amend the future land use map from rural residential to commercial as the proposed amendment is not consistent with the goals, objectives, and policies of the Putham County comprehensive plan. It is not compatible with the existing

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development in the area. Are there any questions by the board? >> Uh the property to the north there that does that have a residence on it? Yes, sir. Is that currently occupied residence? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay.

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>> Michael, just for curiosity, the parcel that is currently zoned commercial on the future land use map that sits just to the west, when was that reszoned? Do you know? Uh staff is was not able to find out the exact date and time that that was reszoned. Uh currently the

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development on that property is a vacant and abandoned building. >> Any more questions for All right. Uh if the uh owner or the owner's rep wishes to speak, please come forward. Yep. Come on up here. Give us

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your name and address and tell us about it. >> My name is Hillilary Trii. We live at 153 Magnolia Trail. The property in question is at 148 Butler Drive. >> Okay. Pull that mic a little closer to you. Is it on >> in Satsuma?

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>> Is the green light on? >> Yeah. I got to lean over a little bit. >> Am I allowed to go? >> Yeah. Go right ahead. Go redhead. Sorry. >> Okay. No, that's okay. Um, good evening committee and neighbors. My name is Hillilary Trii and

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we are requesting the resoning of the parcel located at 148 Butler Drive from R1A to C3 or whatever zoning is suitable to allow a low inensity boat and RV storage facility serving local residents. Originally, the application

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did also mention um sales and that has been stricken from our plan. I can revise anything as needed. Uh the corridor already includes established commercial zoning. The property located obviously you just talked about directly across Butler Drive from us is currently

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zoned C2. Our request aligns our parcel with the zoning present on the same roadway. Um just another example of something similar up Highway 17 is also zoned C2, the RV um sales business New Horizon, which is a higher intensity commercial

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use than what we are proposing, but is also zoned C2. Uh, we understand the concerns presented in staff's report and only want what's best for the county and our neighbors. The proposed use generates minimal traffic, no mechanical noise, and no

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nighttime activity. The location is on the same corridor as Georgia Boys, which produces the identical kind of traffic on the same two corridors of San Mato Road and Butler Drive, which are just off Highway 17. the only area of the

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road that would need to be traveled. We understand the traffic concerns in the neighborhood for sure, but the propensity for someone pulling a trailer or RV to use any of the other narrow roadways instead of Highway 17 to access the property is highly unlikely unless

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they do, of course, already live in the neighborhood and are storing their uh property at our location. The site will include vegetative buffers, privacy fencing, and downshielded lighting to ensure compatibility with Miss Buucy's home.

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You mentioned our neighbor to the north. Uh San Monteo Road does provide a natural buffer to the south. And as mentioned, there's already uh C2 on one side and an unoccupied R1A on the other. We hope this resoning request supports

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the county's comprehensive vision for expanding recreationoriented commercial services, supports local residents that love where we live but don't have the room for storage and increases the commercial tax use tax base.

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For these reasons, we respectfully request approval for the resoning from R1A to C3 or whatever may be most suitable or possibly continue this item to a future hearing to revise our request. If is there a less intensive commercial zoning that would permit RV

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boat storage only, maybe something similar to commercial neighborhood that would work? We are very open to any conditions that would support this request, like possibly only having one entrance on the side of Butler. limit access through only at Butler Drive or

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anything that you might propose or suggest. >> Thank you very much for your time. >> Okay, thank you. >> Sure. >> Do I stand here or can I sit down? >> Uh, do we have any questions for the applicant?

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>> Thank you. Thank you very much. All right. Um, let's see. Do we have We've got some folks from the public that want to speak. Let's go through that. Thank you. All right. First up, Christy Roden.

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Roden. If you would just give us uh your name and address and >> Christy Rhoden, 209 Butler Drive. >> Thank you. >> We oppose this proposal. The removal of the trees have already

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created more noise and uh visuals to Highway 17. Um, and we don't want the additional traffic. There's a commercial building to the left. If they wanted to purchase that, do something with it, but we do not want it directly in our

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line of sight. >> They already have a boat on the property with a tarp over the top of it. It just doesn't look good for the neighborhood. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Thank you very much. >> That's all I have. Thank you. All right. Uh, James Katan,

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>> James Kaitton, 105 Sanjan Drive, Suma, Florida. >> I oppose this uh thing because of uh the traffic concern, the thievery going to be happening. As far as the commercial building next door, they don't never take care of.

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It's been trashed ever since I can remember. I've been there 30 years and the place just keeps on getting worse. They just cleaned it up today after all this time and it's been sitting with all sorts of trash and everything for a year. We don't need that kind of here still. The increased traffic. We don't

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have that much traffic from Georgia boys as it is. He's opened up everything to 17 now, which took the buffer away, puts houses there. It creates the buffer back. It's all residential neighborhood and should stay that way. I do have a a

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copy of this for everybody up there. It's a sign petitions from all the way down San Road. >> Thank you. You want to make it commercial three, which means you can sell it any time and put whatever you want there. You could

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put a manufacturing plant there, uh have chemicals there, stuff. It's not right in a residential neighborhood. That's basically all I have to say about it. So, I disagree with it all. >> Okay. Appreciate.

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>> Thank you, Mr. >> Thank you. Thank you. All right. Uh Matt Rodic, Rodic, is that correct? Rodic. Rodic. >> Rodic. >> Rodic. Okay. >> Evening or afternoon, gentlemen. Um, aside from the points already brought up here,

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>> uh, name and address, please. >> Excuse me. Uh Matt Rodic, 245 Bell Drive, uh Satsuma, Florida. >> Okay. >> Okay. Aside from the issues that are already brought up here, I would like to note that uh this is a mostly

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residential neighborhood um where they're proposing to build this boat ramp uh boat storage commercial uh property. No sidewalks, although the residents do use Bell Butler and San Monteo for walking purposes as

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pedestrian traffic. Um, it's uh uh basically an area for residential. Yes, there are a few properties, one currently not in use and that we do have Georgia Boys Fish Camp um that uh has basically been grandfathered in. that's

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been there has to be over 30, 40 years. Um, we're not looking to have our neighborhood turned into a commercial zone. Uh, we'd like to keep it residential as much as we can aside from these two buildings that already exist. One that's vacant currently. Um, we are

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worried about the noise. um inadequate roads I think for a commercial property that's there uh that that they're planning on building and also very worried about the spot zoning precedent that this will set. It's

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basically you put this in, it's a crack in the door for zoning so that future properties that we could have a buildup there that's uh basically residential area. uh the two businesses that are there, one's not occupied, hasn't been

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for many years, and the other one's George Boyce, pretty much incorporated into the neighborhood. Thank you. Thank you. >> All right. Do we have anybody else from the public wishes to speak? All right. Seeing none, we'll close that

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and bring it back to the board for discussion. Any ideas, opinions, questions? Michael, >> what is uh Georgia Boys classified as?

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>> Uh Georgia Boys is currently a non-conforming use. Uh they are allowed to uh continue to exist as they are. However, any uh any improvement or uh development in excess of what is currently there would require either a

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reszone and/or a plan unit development. Uh most fish camps are classified as plan unit developments. However, Georgia Boyce specifically is not yet a plan unit development. >> Michael, the Satsum area is kind of a sprawling area from there. the other

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particular localities uh similar to what you have there on on Butler. Is the bulk of that residential or is there commercial dispersed in there? >> So, if you turn your attention to the uh zoning map that I have brought up on the screen here, uh if it'll appear before

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you, of course. Uh the majority of the San Mo it's also known or the uh St. John's Riverside Estates as some parts of the subdivision turn into is almost entirely residential. Most of it is quarteracre lots as far as the I can see

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very similar in nature to the uh Interlock and Lake Estates development. Uh there are uh some exceptions mostly along the highway corridor. As you get uh closer to San Mo proper, of course, there is some more commercial

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development uh mostly with uh gas stations, uh quick service restaurants such as the Chico's restaurant that is there uh and uh I believe a few convenience stores scattered about. >> Thank you.

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>> Michael, can you turn on the future land use for this area? >> Yes, sir. >> Thank you. So my question then is because that one commercial property that's there has not been

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effectively used would it just automatically become or remain commercial or if they came in for redevelopment or >> so with the way that our uh the Putham County Land Development Code and comprehensive plan are written uh staff

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uh abides by section J of the comprehensive plan which is the property rights element. We will uh not uh reszone or map amendment uh map amend property without the express uh desire of the property owner. As such that

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commercial zone, commercial future land use property will remain that way uh in perpetuity until the future until the property owner wishes to amend it or some form of ear amendment happens after the building has been uh torn down, so

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to speak. and is no longer a commercial development on the property. >> That's been there. >> Well, I I think I think where where we're at with this one is uh unlike the say the 207 corridor where the the commercial portion of it has run down

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the side of the road. Um we're kind of creating an enclave there. Yes, there is one commercial piece there, but I I think the I think the problems we run into is there so it's so overwhelmingly residential and there's a residential piece that it's going to be between it

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and Highway 17 there. Um I understand there's traffic to Georgia Boys uh but you you can't make the assumption that it's the Georgia boy traffic that will be frequenting this. There's going to be a obviously increased traffic there around that thing. I think that's

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kind of the problems we're going to run to at the forefront of it. Um, and the biggest thing is just putting a piece of commercial that is >> in the middle of >> almost completely surrounded by residential. >> Right. That's what I think. So, I mean, I understand what what they want to do and it's

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>> I just think the property is >> not a horrible place for it from a from a usage standpoint because it is close to the river and close to the fish camp and on the 17 corridor, but the adjacent properties really are

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probably the o overwhelming to decide what's going to be able to go there. And right now, it doesn't, in my opinion, doesn't look like >> I don't think so. >> Um, that's where we're going to end up. So >> that's my opinion. >> Well, it doesn't meet our comprehensive

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plan as stated, >> but doesn't sooner or later that corridor is going to turn commercial. >> I I believe it will. I believe eventually it'll grow from San Matia down that way. But at at what point? And

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>> I I don't see where we can put one that's off the highway into a commercial state where the immediately adjacent to the highway section is still residential. I mean, we're we're doing a disservice to whoever is I mean, they've already had the encroachment of the highway expansion on that resident there

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to the north. >> I don't see how we can adversely affect them by allowing that commercial usage behind them. I mean, we're really tightening their boundaries around there. Um, >> and that's a residential to the north. Is that correct? >> That is. That's a Yes, sir.

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>> occupied residence. >> Okay. Yeah. I don't see how we can do that. >> Michael, last question. If this goes the way it's looking like it's going, that's going to set them back for any future.

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Well, I guess the ultimate determination that sets a timeline on any future changes or intensities would be that one year if it gets denied. And I I'm bringing it up because they express some

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>> so >> some thoughts to maybe do something a little different. I mean I know that it's not going to get in a residential 1A kind of thing at all. But >> so ultimately there are two cases being seen here. The map amendment and the reszone. And right now we're only on the

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map amendment. Uh if this case were to be denied ultimately for the map amendment side, uh it would be a year before they could try to re amend the map to the commercial future land use category, which uh with the distance

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between this property and urban service, which is that dark green you're seeing on the map there. Uh commercial would be the only future land use category that could support a commercial development by right. Uh the exception of course being that a uh planned unit development

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in the rural residential future land use category could allow for commercial development as well. Uh we had a similar case last year if you recall uh just across the river there at the intersection with Hudowl uh where they

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had a rural residential future land use property in AC1 zone property that they went to a plan unit development to do develop some form of convenience store. Uh there is the option that they would have if their reszone got denied to attempt for a plan unit development on

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this property. However, the issue of incompatibility would still be there. Of course, just because it is a different color on the map doesn't mean that it is uh no less different in the use they are planning. >> Yeah. I mean, my biggest point of contention at this point is the

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residential to the north. Like if they were coming in and and this is just me >> Oh, straight up here. If both of those pieces were owned by and we were talking about the piece on 17 becoming commercial, that to me is a different

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conversation than having a piece that is discontinuous from the from the highway frontage there. So, I mean, I I think I think that I think that's a whole different conversation if both parcels are owned versus the piece that

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is further >> into >> separated from the road. Um, and because the because the zoning there across Butler is C2, I don't I see there's a way to future in the future

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where it could possibly expand across Butler on the frontage side of that. But I but but setting that to a commercial setting without I think we're really uh working backwards uh in regards to that piece to the north. I think that that's really my hang-up on this whole

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whole operation is the piece to the north and and obviously there's there's quite a bit of the um the surrounding neighborhood has made us aware that they're

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opposed to it. That obviously accounts for something. But um the biggest thing is I don't think we can force this square peg into a round hole. Um, >> so Mr. Chair, I'd like to uh make a

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motion to deny application CPA 26-00002 uh because it is not consistent with the goals, objectives, and policies of the comprehensive plan. >> I'll second it. >> I got a motion in a second. Call for question. All in favor?

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>> I I All right. Uh, sorry about it, but um I like what you guys are trying to do there, but it just it doesn't seem like we're going to be able to fit it in with the rules we're constrained to work with. So,

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um, continue to work with with the guys in the planning department because they'll they can they can figure out a path to get you guys hopefully uh get you guys to where you want to be. Um >> and we still have to do the uh reszone

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case now. >> Yeah. Okay. So we will bring on the next one >> which is the reszone at the same time >> which is the reason it's Yeah. It's it's the same property. It's just the other piece to it. So

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this will be in regards to case 26008. Uh once again for the record, Michael Graves, Planning and Development Services. Uh as mentioned before, uh PC Pressure Washing LLC is requesting a zoning and future land use map amendment

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from rural residential to commercial and residential 1A to commercial general 3 on 1.4 acres located at 148 Butler Drive in Satsuma to establish a boat and RV storage facility. Uh surrounding zonings

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include residential 2, residential 1A, and commercial retail C2. Uh the lands have approximately 196 ft of frontage along Butler and Bell Drive and 320 ft of access on San Mo Road. According to the National Wetlands layer and FEMA

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flood zone layer on the GIS reference map, the property is in FEMA flood zone X, not a special flood hazard area and does not contain wetlands. Uh should the reszone request be approved, the applicant uh with the

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without the approval of the uh comprehensive plan element, the applicants will not be able to develop on this property. Uh however, if both were approved, then they would go through the standard DRC channels for any commercial development allowed by Wright in the C3 zoning district.

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Uh here you can see again the aerials and the other maps of the property. Uh staff is still recommending denial as well for the request to uh change the zoning from uh residential 1A to uh commercial general C3. St. staff finds

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that the proposed resoning is not consistent with the goals, objectives, and policies of the adopted comprehensive plan and does not meet the locationational requirements of the uh commercial general C3 zoning district provided in the land development code and comprehensive plan. Are there any

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questions? >> I don't think so. I think all the questions were going to be the same as the last one. Um, but staying with procedure, if the uh owner representative wishes to get up and speak, they're more than welcome to.

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>> Okay. Anybody from the public wish to get up and respond to this one as well? Okay. >> Thank you. My name is Marcia Becraftraft, 244 Bell Drive. It's my understanding that the

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pressure washing company does not even own that piece of property. It's my understanding that that property that we're discussing now is still owned by the existing house that is on 17 and Bell.

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I would object on the same issues that we've already covered. With the clearing of that land and clearing of all the trees, the noise has increased uh from 17 all the way down to Dun Creek. So, I would like for you to take

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that into consideration. As I said, I don't even think they own that property. And as the gentleman pointed out over here, you can't reszone property that does not belong to you. Thank you. >> Yes, ma'am.

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>> Mr. Chair, if I may. >> Yeah, go ahead. >> Just to clarify, um, within the packet for the zoning map amendment and future land use map amendment applications, there was a warranty deed in which, uh, the properties in or property in

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question was conveyed to PC Pressure Washing LLC on April 2nd, 2026. Yep. See that in the packet. Thank you. All right. Anybody else from the public wish to speak? >> All right. We'll close it. Bring it back

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to the board for discussion. >> I think we're motion. >> I think we're the same thing. I'll make a recommendation to the board of county commissioners that deny the reszoning of Rez26-0000008 as it is not consistent with the goals

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and objectives and policies of Putnham County comprehensive plan. >> I'll second. Got a motion and second. All in favor? >> I All right. Um, yeah, like I said, sorry guys. We uh

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we understand what you're trying to do there, but we we can't get to it just yet. So, keep working with the Z planning and zoning and and see if they can help you through it. Um, that takes care of the items for today.

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Do we have any old business? >> Mr. Chairman, did everybody send their disclosure July 1st? like this. Do it like this. Do it like this. Hit the button. Hit the button.

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>> Well, I that was just general information. I don't think that needs to be Everybody needs to disclose. >> Yes, I did mine as soon as you got done telling us. And I appreciate that information because >> you need to you need to talk to one of these ladies over here and because

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they'll charge they charge me 500 bucks. >> Don't laugh. That's that 500 bucks has >> Don't laugh. The $500. >> Did you dispose? >> I advertised. >> I resigned. >> Okay. I know you have. >> Well, I'm going to pay anybody $500. I

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quit. >> Well, they don't care. They'll still >> They don't care. They still send it to you. >> I asked him that, too. >> It hurt his feelings last week and this week, apparently. >> He's still talking about it. >> Okay. >> I trying to be nice and >> What do we have to disclose by?

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>> July 1st. I ain't paying >> $25 a day. >> I won't pay. I quit right now. Officially quit. That's what I got to do. >> That wall stop. >> All right. >> And they gave you a little bit of grace.

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>> It's easy. It's actually pretty easy. I did it online. They just have a >> supposed to send a reminder, >> I guess, just to just to make sure we're all squared. Is it? >> They did. You were busy vacationing. >> We all to go in and see clear. Not cleared. >> That's not for you. I'll do it right

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after this because >> All right. Is that the extent? >> Nothing from anybody saying I hadn't done it. >> Department of >> Okay. >> I would encourage any of you that has questions to contact Laura Bardi.

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She's the one that sent you guys your welcome packet way back when you got appointed to the board. I can put you in touch with her if you need. >> Yeah, if you would. There's a phone number if you would. >> Well, there's an email. You have to put your information in the state system and they send you an email and follow the

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link. It's fairly simple. Doesn't take much at all. Um, any more old business? All right. Any new business? >> N. >> So, I do have a question for the board and I know this is going to be a sticky

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question. >> I got something for you. >> Um, >> but we elected a a chair and a vice chair. And again, I don't want to go into details, but our chair has not

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been in attendance since again, terrible circumstances from my understanding, but do we want I don't I don't even know the mechanism. Do we want to look at maybe at least a minimum of

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another electing a vice chair or how? I don't even know what that looks like cuz I'm going to be honest, November and December I'm going to be pretty scarce and that's just I know I've been here with some pretty limited quorums. So I I don't even know how that would work. Do

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we know if >> we'll pass that question to the attorney? >> Where do we where do we stand procedurally? Well, I haven't talked to uh uh Miss Roberts recently, but I know that she is

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uh uh eager to come back. Um our director may have some insights into that. But as far as I know, what we're trying to do now is is make a determination in a in a reasonable amount of time whether or not Miss

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Roberts is going to return. And as today, that still uh hasn't been determined. But uh uh but we do I think you're right about one thing. You do have to uh we do have to do something about it relatively soon.

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And I'm sure our director agrees with that. But uh that's all I have for you right now. >> Well, we just recently had a company I sit on the board with. our CEO uh took ill for a period of time and we

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placed somebody else in the seat until he got healthy. I guess my question is do do we need to do that? >> He's now healthy because he came back is what I'm saying. So, >> well, I think >> I think at this point we're talking about four or five months. I mean, at

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this point we we're we're redoing it in January anyway. We're supposed to do it every January anyway. So, >> if we just float through the next four months and as long as we're procedurally legal and above board, then >> let's >> it'll it'll sort itself out January. >> Why don't we try to find out where Miss

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Roberts is for next month? We'll table it till next month and find out if it's worth if it's worth. You know, do we think she'll be >> I've been somewhat comfortable with the with the current person sitting in the chair. He has I mean I don't I don't think he's

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done anything. >> No no no I'm I'm bringing this up as a procedural thing only and the fact that it could affect our quorum numbers in the near future. This is I am completely

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understanding of what is being dealt with. So, so I I will say this. I had the same concern about two or three months ago. And even if she comes back, which we welcome her back, that's not a I don't think that's a question at all. It goes back to chairperson. She may not

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be chairperson, but she'll be part of the board. And I think it's part of our diligence to make sure that this board is structured to where if something happens to Justin, who announces to the co-chair, he's not here. Can we run a meeting without a chair or co-chair?

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That's that's that's the position that I'm in now, >> I think. Yes. Also, because we're we're faced with basically the same thing with our ZBA. We're going to have to elect a uh temporary chair and vice chair to run a meeting and we may we don't want to do

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that. Um I just I just Kristen just mentioned to me that she had spoken to uh Ms. Roberts and the word that she got was that Miss Roberts very much wants to be here next next uh month but doesn't know if she can be. I think what we're

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we've reached a point where I think everybody agrees that um there's got to be more certainty than this. There there's got to be better information than this um whether or not she's going to make it back or not because I I I share your concerns. we

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need to go ahead and if we have to uh elect a new vice chair, we need to do it. And if we need to have a new member, we need to do that also. But we've been trying to accommodate Miss Roberts. But but as as Justin as our chairperson just

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said, you know, we do have some uh we do have some concerns about uh having our quorum and making sure that we're doing things procedurally correct. But as of right now, we're we're okay. But we I I would hope that by next month, we'll

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have some idea. And hopefully I will have spoken to Miss Roberts by next month, too. >> Are we down one, two? We just eight now. Well, I heard we were just eight. >> Um I believe we do have one vacancy on this board. That is correct.

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>> But but but to be fair though from a board standpoint missing one >> and again I'm I'm the newest kid on the block here. But I've not seen anything different from the first meeting or two meetings I had when Miss Roberts Susan

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ran it and Justin ran it. Well, I think I think I think I think the I think the I think >> wise I think we're solid. >> I think the issue comes from I was really not supposed to be here for this meeting. I was going to be on vacation till Saturday which meant >> the board would have been in a little bit of disarray today, >> right?

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>> Trying to figure out how procedurally to move forward. So I think that's where the concerns are coming from. So I >> clearly for the record that is my concern is that he was supposed to be returning on Saturday. Then what would this board have done without a chair or

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vice chair? And how long do we And for the record, I am not interested at all. >> Squeaky wheel gets to No, I'm just again I'm just about the procedure and when I read the procedures. >> So let's let's do this. Let's let our

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attorney look into the procedure of what we need to do in the event we choose to make moves in the next meeting. Can we do that? And that way we'll have you'll have a foundation for how we do it. And >> I think we should and I I think our staff and >> I don't want to speak for our director,

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but I think that's what we want to do. >> Okay. >> Is bring some finality here. >> It's been a while since we've not had com quorum for planning commission. That's that's >> one close call. But >> but but it is very useful though that

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Kristen sends notes out and then she makes calls because memory isn't what it was, you know, 30 years ago, >> right? And and to kind of try to address the concerns about uh the event of Mr. Morris's absence. The first item on the agenda would be the temporary

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appointment of chair and vice chair in which we would do so of course if we have a quorum. Um, I think what's more concerning is if there's ever a situation in which nobody is willing to make the motion, the chair can't make a

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motion unless he passes the gavl and then in order for that to occur, we would have to stop that hearing, do an appointment of vice a temporary vi. It'd get kind of convoluted. We could work our way through it. Um, we we want to give uh Miss Roberts the

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best opportunity to return and you know, we're just trying to kind of bear with her on on that. Um, I don't know, Mike, what your thoughts are in reading through the land development code and of course it being Robert's rule of order. Um, the

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appointment are supposed to take place the first meeting of every year. Um, however, I'm pretty sure just a majority vote of the board members can decide if they want to do a new chair or vice chair. So, be that as it may. >> The fourth meeting

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>> one every month. So, this will be the seventh. >> Yeah, that's why that's why I saying if we wait too much longer, it's going to work itself out. >> All right, Mr. Chairman, I think we got to do the minutes. for the last meeting. Right.

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>> We do. Is that the end of the new business? >> No. M Mr. Jeremy, before you adjourn, um, I just wanted to tell you, uh, takes my computer so long to actually boot back up that I'd like to just, if you don't mind, I will research this tonight

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because I tend to remember that there's something in there that maybe the board would be interested in and I'll send that to uh, to our director and to Kristen and they can then send it out to board members. anything that I find that you might find relevant and I think

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there is something relevant there but it's not going to interfere with anything we've done today but uh let me go ahead and do that and send it off to you as opposed to y'all sitting here waiting on this >> okay and maybe maybe we can get that on there as an agenda item for old business next next meeting

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would you like it to be old business or would you like it to just be the the first item on the agenda >> first item on the agenda Let's address it and get it done. >> Depending on whether or not the chair is returning, >> right? >> Okay. >> Yep. Suits me.

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>> So, could we just do this formally and just have um some sort of a motion vote so that we're not kind of we're not putting the precedent in front of you? You guys are telling us what to bring you back. I mean, you've all kind of given the direction as to what you want to do, but I just want to make sure that

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it's motioned and voted upon. We're making a motion for what? >> If if >> to do the research on the procedure. >> Well, the to do the um appointment. Correct. >> Yeah. The appointment of officers as the first item if the chair is unable to

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return. >> I'll just I'll take the bullets because I open this up and again I didn't mean this in a bad thing. It's all about procedure. So bear with me. Um, I move that for our next meeting, um, this our

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attorney and city staff present to us guidance on the possible election of new chair and vice chair. And we make this the first agenda item at the next meeting. Is that

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good enough? >> I'll second it. >> All right. Move and second. All in favor? All right. All right. >> The only other question would be between now and then somebody would have contact

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>> her situation. I'll be there technically. >> We don't need it. >> We don't need it. But I didn't realize eight months ago. going to take action to make sure the

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commission continues to run. >> She'll understand that. >> She understands that. >> I think she'll understand. >> She'll be fine. >> She's understand. Let's see. >> All right. Any more new business? >> All right. Um, how about approval of the

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minutes from the June 10th, 2026 meeting? Can I get a >> second? >> Motion and second. All in favor? >> All right. All right, there we go. Prove of the minutes. All right, that wraps us up. 4:45.

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>> What I did was I just put Thanks for that reminder card with that stuff.