good evening the Ron Township planning board is now in session call to order the notice requirements of the open public meetings act have been satisfied by the placing of a notice of this meeting on the bulletin board at the municipal building filing the notice with the Township
Clerk and transmitting the notice to the Hun and County Democrat The Courier News The Star Ledger and the Trenton Times have a roll call please chairman Mr Edward gettings here Vice chair Miss Donna Drew here Mr Robin Fatu she has
asked to be excused Mr Scott McDade here Miss Michelle kakiri has also asked to be excused Mr Dennis conanan here Mr James Miller he has asked to be excused Mr Glenn sokowski he's here board professionals board
attorney Mr Joe toriello here Township planner Mr Jeffrey Bella here Township engineer Mr raes Dari present board traffic consultant Mr J Troutman here and all other board professionals have asked to be excused okay thank you I'm going to ask
everybody to please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance and a moment of silence for the men and women in the armed services the United States of America and to the repu one nation under God indivisible Li
justice for all thank you all right we uh just so that everybody knows we are going to go in close into close session here in a few minutes and when we do I need to ask everybody other than the board to uh leave the room and our
attorney and it was up to you I have the other conference room available whatever is easier yeah we can do that so you all stay comfortable here we uh also we have an application this evening we're going to try to get everything done before we do that application because we don't expect that that's
going to start until 8 o'clock at least that's the Hope right yes 8 o'clock okay so in terms of comments and reports I don't have any report this evening uh board comments does anybody else have anything like to talk about this evening
no question open the microphone into the microphone please with regard to the open public meeting act now like with Star Ledger closing I know does any of that get changed is there going to be updates from the state legislature how
they're going to do that because most these news papers don't exist I mean yeah especially the Hun County Democrat teller and I talked about that at the last meeting did you say I'm trying I'm not trying to put I'm not sure Joe if you want to chip in but yeah there was there was some action taken yeah there
was and the the or the original bill which um was adopted in December which I think was was set to expire this month or last month I don't remember when it was it's been extended to December 31st of 2025 so in other words whatever um
old school paper Publications that municipalities used to use they can send to those municipalities for online um publication and the online under this new bill substitutes paper
and the ultimate goal and the push from many including myself I I've spoken to some elected officials regarding this is what I'm hoping to see eventually is that each municipality can o can advertise just on their own website
because to me that makes the most sense if you want to know what's going on in Ron Township you go to Ron Township website as opposed to newspaper in the middle of the state somewhere you know but that's not where we are yet but hopefully that's where we'll
Land good question thanks for raising it thanks for answering it so well Engineers comments I have nothing Mr chairman very good planners comments yeah I have I have one comment um next Thursday March 6 the county is
having a open public um a public meeting on the draft uh preliminary state plan for cross acceptance this is a process which includes the county and municipalities um to review the draft state plan it hasn't been it's just now
in the review process um I'm meeting with the County Planning Department within the next uh two weeks to discuss what's required I believe there's a questionnaire just stating what the the master plan elements what's what has been adopted what's what's
General planning um questions and and compared to the last state plan which was in uh 2004 okay so the next meeting I should have an update very good it's good to hear thank you okay attorney's comments anything
further nothing further okay uh actually before we go into the closed session I'm trying to clear up all business before we do that before we do the public hearing so I'm going to jump to minutes of which there are none for the
record resolutions there are none this evening for the record and then citizens privilege and citizens privilege is that part of the planning board meeting where any members of the of our community can address the planning board on any items they have other than the upcoming
hearing you need to wait for that so if there's anybody who wants to address the planning board this evening with any questions now would be the time to do so so I'm going to ask you to please come up to the microphone and give us your name and address please hi on I'm sorry uh if I can
respectfully suggest you shouldn't give addresses anymore because of um uh I'm forget Daniel's LA because of Daniel's um it's easier just to say whether you're a resident or
non-resident this way the secretary doesn't have to go through and redact if there's any oah requests yes for anybody might we are here for a good reason you're G tonight thank you just tonight okay thank so sorry for the delay thank
you your name no need to apologize my name is Rachel um graciously I've corresponded with a few of you in the past 48 hours but I am a resident in Ron Township I've lived here since 2020 and um the purpose of me attending today outside of the correspondence with I've
had with a few of you graciously um is just to seek some understanding around a uh WR way that is next to my property I live nearby I won't say the property address but um we found out through a
construction team recently that um a road or a driveway will be put in next to our property so um myself and then my direct neighbor we were not made aware of this um happening outside of the documentation that the two of you have
provided Taylor and Jeff um recently so um I have read through the documentation and I do have some additional questions and concerns um and I would love to ask some of those questions this evening my my main focus is just to understand how some of the decisions were made and also
what opportunities I have to mitigate some of the inherent risk that will happen uh to my my property as well as my children's safety being a resident so if I can ask those questions I'd like to do so yeah this was and we did get the information from you and
thank you but this was a board of adjustment application this is the planning board so I'm not so sure we have jurisdiction over that but um we have some information uh yeah um this would not be the place to raise any of
your issues or concerns none of the members here um passed on that application they wouldn't necessarily have a specific information you're looking for the board of adjustment meets when is we meet next Thursday
okay um but you're more than welcome to come either schedule time with Jeff and I to go over some of these items that and questions you may have I mean I'm not Joe I'm not really sure if I well here's the thing so like
in in your um statement to the board you you had said and I'm paraphrasing uh you're you're looking for ways to mitigate um and what I heard in in your statement is you're seeking legal advice
and that's something that no member of this board can give you and I can't give you I would encourage you uh to to seek out an attorney who specializes in land use law that may be able may be able to
better guide you on what potential remedies are there are without knowing anything about the the application and I don't know anything about the application full disclosure I have covered certain Board of adjustment meetings as Board of adjustment attorney
I don't know anything about this I don't I don't think I was associated with it and if I was with my memory I don't I certainly don't remember it um but but having said that um there are this is not a comment to your specific situation
but generally there are there is a timeliness issue when so the under New Jersey Law there comes a point in time and I'm not saying it's the case in your situation when you are
just out of time to raise concerns even if they're valid I don't know that that's your situation but that's an example of why you would I would encourage you to um to meet with a land use attorney to give you guidance all of that not withstanding the secretary has
offered to meet with you and extend uh an offer to to discuss with the Township's planning board so you're certainly welcome I'm sorry a board of adjustment thank you I Township planner is what I meant to say without regard to
to board um but thank you for that and uh so I would encourage you to to do that but go before the board of adjustment raise your concerns with the body that passed the this um particular or granted this relief that you're
concerned about and that would be my advice to you sure and just um based off of the documents I received thank you Taylor for sending them to me um there was just a lot of discrepancy around um the terms of if it's a driveway a right
of way or if it'll be a street and I if I could see Clarity on that from this group here um if you are aware of what that is because there was multiple references with different um labels and then also who now owns that that property because different phone calls that I've had
have expressed its townships or it's that person who owns that land you know all these records are public and Jeff and Taylor can certainly she she's already received them and and take a look at that uh but that's really a question for the board and
Council I think he's giv you good advice to look for an attorney but specifically look for a municipal land use attorney because that person he or she will know what's at play here play here and that person he or she will know what questions to ask and what other
information to seek on your behalf so that you get your questions answer yeah absolutely well I've gotten a lot of answers and I do have good questions and then um I did notice that there was just some questions that weren't addressed when the study and the provisions were made or the variances were approved um
where I have concerns about the environmental component of this approved project there was uh environmental impact studies done for the access to Old Clinton however I didn't read any legis any um any documentation that had
shown any environmental impact studies conducted on the two neighboring lands to this new driveway and I already take on a lot of storm water and I don't have any um notification on any or any guidance based on this that state said
it's been explored of how that will impact the storm water will impact our land and having this additional impervious coverage all reasonable questions but we can help you here okay and those those things would have been for should have been
addressed as part of the I'm even sure what the project was historically but as part of that you know historical approval yeah well than I appreciate the invitation and the time and the clarity on where to go moving forward so thank you yeah if we could help you we would to council's I totally
recommendations that's about the best that we can do I appreciate it thank you okay thank you sir did you also have a question I just have one come on up and you have to go through the form name no address Larry hambro not my address um just real quick resident or
not I I am not a resident I'm her dad okay um so I and I I couldn't get her attention to get in a quick caveat my only question is I understand uh zoning um versus planning but doesn't the
planning board authorize VAR es from the results of ordinance not met I I'm not quite sure how the this board uh operates that's all well we do have who authorizes
variances we can both both the planning board and the board of adjustment can act on variances it depends upon who has jurisdiction correct I got so in this case it's still the and I don't know enough about what this is if you would like
just just just in a in the most simplistic way and not to be give a typical attorney answer with with like cats and disclaimers yet that's what I'm doing um in a general sense this board here's applications for example where
the use is permitted um but where maybe some bulk variances are needed or design waivers where a board of adjustment for example would hear an application where the use is not permitted in this Zone
and may also have bulk variances on top of like a d d variances so in a general sense that's fair to just describe there's more to in this Cas perfect very understandable what I would highly recommend is I know the resolution I
gave you for the application we won't get into detail about it but I know it's a lot of pages but within it the attorney that wrote it he goes Point by point on why it was granted what variants and why yeah and then all the
conditions that have to be met okay so I know it's going to look like a bunch of gibberish to you guys but that's why we're highly recommending that you seek out a land use attorney because they will be able to describe everything to you got it thanks appreciate it thank
you for taking the time you Comm in okay with that I'm going to ask for motion for us to go into Clos session uh to to to discuss um I have it here you want okay you want to go ahead and read it Taylor okay yes the whole resolution
sir please okay whereas NJ sa 10 colon 4-12 the open public meetings act authorizes this board to exclude the public from that portion of a meeting at which this board discusses certain matters whereas the board is about to
discuss such matters specifically attorney client Privileges and for details legal advice concerning pending litigation entitled Flemington 202 Properties LLC versus R and Township Municipal Utilities Authority the township planning board
and the r and Township Board of adjustment discussion on a Flemington Junction Associates 3 LLC application and the Diamond Nation LLC application in accordance with njsa 40 colon 55 D- 71b whereas board believes the public
should be excluded from those discussions and if I get a motion please second okay all right we can walk on over to the conference room I will meet you guys there in a few seconds everyone can State a second I didn't hear a vote on
oh I'm so sorry all those oh I'm sorry chairman mber gettings Vice chair Miss Donna Drew Mr Scott McDade Mr Dennis conanan yes Mr Glen stoski yes okay without further advertisement do we
need yeah I thought we did that we okay okay the r and Township planning board is back in session uh the application for this evening that was on the
agenda very much for Flemington Concrete Products LLC is uh is postponed from this evening to our meeting on March 26th without notice without the need for addition without the need for additional notice thank
done okay with that unless anybody has anything else for this evening oh we have something else to put into the record oh yes thank you so much for that thank you so much so with respect to uh the application before this board
Diamond Nation proper LLC preliminary final site plan for construction of a 126,127 email to Mr Gruenberg from the board secretary confirming that the applicant has granted a further extension for the
time uh decision of this board to the end of March of 2025 so we'll say March 31st 2025 thank you and thank you everybody for being patient this evening and we areed