##VIDEO ID:AxloIBfFqIQ## well I don't know if you want to hit the gole but all right uh the r intenal planning board agenda for January 88th 2025 the reorganization meeting call to order the notice requirements of the open public meetings act have been satisfied by the placing of a notice of this meeting on the bulleon board at the municipal building filing the same with the Township Clerk and transmitting the same to the Hunter and County Democrat The Courier News The Star Ledger Trend times roll call Mr Edward gettings here miss Don Drews here miss Robin Fatu here Mr Scott McDade here Miss Michelle kavaki she is asked to be excused Mr Dennis conanan here Mr James Miller here Mr Glenn soosi by via Zoom okay and then Joe excuse me I always forget am I not going to call the board professionals until we appoint them you probably should that's correct okay all right uh Pledge of Allegiance and moment of silence we ask all to join and resign the pledge of allegiance to our flag and remain standing for a moment of silence to remember our men and women serving the armed forces and in particular those serving in troubled areas around the world States thank you all right let's get this year started can I please have um regarding a chair person for the year if anybody would like to make a nomination or motion I would like to nominate Ed gettings chairperson all right and for the record that was Scott McDade and can I have um anybody second it second all right Mr award gettings well obviously yes for roll call Miss Donna Drews yes Miss Robin Fatu yes Mr Scott McDade yes Mr Dennis conanan Mr James Miller yes Mr Glenn soosi yes okay welcome back Ed as chair thank you I would very much like to nominate Donna Drew for vice chairperson second all right uh chairman Mr Edward gettings yes Miss Donna Drew yes Miss Robin Fatu yes Mr Scott McDade yes Mr Dennis conanan Mr James Miller Mr Glenn Sosi yes all right you want you want to get the ball rolling though I'm the first one the for secretary and then we'll go to Joe well the first resolution is me yes appointing me but we're gonna swear Joe in first right yeah when it comes to his I think at that point you want to appoint her first yeah let's appoint her okay i' like to make a motion that Taylor vaugh uh be appointed board secretary and assistant Secretary of the board second [Music] chairman Mr gettings yes Vice chair Miss Donna Drew yes Miss Robert P Mr Scott McDade yes Miss Michelle kaviri oh I'm sorry she's not even here uh Mr Dennis McCannon yes Mr James Miller yes Mr Glenn solowski yes okay now are we gonna swear Joe in well you gonna We gonna appoint me first i' like to make a motion that Mr Joseph toriello Esquire be appointed planning board attorney second sorry chairman Mr arber gettings yes Miss Donna Drew yes M Robin P yes Mr Scott McDade yes Mr Dennis quanon Mr James Miller Mr Glenn Sosi yes okay thank you all you g to come to me we could do yeah I don't know if you wanted to finish the appointments or you wanted to S it doesn't matter you could do it now doing okay raise your right hand I Joseph toriel I Joseph toriel doly swear or affirm you Solly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the state of New Jersey state of New Jersey that I will bear true faith and allegiance that I will bear true faith and allegiance to and to the government established in the United States to the governments established in the United States and in the state under the authority of the people under the authority of the people and I will faithfully impartially and justly perform all the duties and that I will faithfully impartially and justly perform all the duties of planning board to the best of my ability so help me God to the best of my ability so help me God yay thank [Laughter] you I would like to make a a motion that uh Mr Rakesh dargi be appointed planning board engineering expert but we do not have reesh with us this evening we have Ryan McCarthy with us hey Ryan are you so I'd like to make a motion that we second approved thank you chairman Mr Edward gig yes Vice chairman Donna Drew yes M Robin Vu yes Mr Scott McDade yes Mr Dennis conanan Mr James Miller yes Mr Glenn Stokowski yes okay love that background there Glen that's great okay next up I would like to make a a recommendation that we appro approve Mr to Jeffrey Vella as planning board planning expert second sorry guys chairman Miss award gettings yes by chair Miss Donna Drew yes M Robin Fatu yes M Scott McDade yes M Denis conanan yes M James Miller yes Mr Glen Sosi yes thank you okay Jeff you're stuck with us again imagine I would like to also recommend that we appoint Jessica Caldwell as planning board expert second that was you Scott okay Mr Edward gennings yes Vice chair Miss Donna Drew yes Miss Robin Fatu yes Mr Scott McDade yes Mr Dennis conanan yes Mr James Miller yes Mr glowski yes okay next up I'd like to make a recommendation that Mr JS Troutman be appointed board traffic expert second chairman Miss ER gings yes Vice chair Miss Donna Drew yes M Robert Fu yes Mr Scott McDade yes Mr Dennis concanon M James Miller Mr Glenn Sosi yes okay I would now like to make a recommendation excuse me that Mr John Morgan Thomas be reappointed as landscape architectural expert second make that Denis uh chairman Mr Edward gettings yes Vice chair Miss Donna Drew yes Miss Robin Fatu yes Mr Scott McDade yes Mr Dennis McCannon yes Mr James Miller yes Mr glowski yes okay okay on do anyone swear Jeff he's the only one here y well don't we have don't we usually for the year you absolutely should I agree would you uh you swear or perm well if you're going to swear I'll bring you the Bible if you're that's what it's for yeah I know difference I know that's why I'm like what well they always say we sworn them in at the beginning of the year stes St I will Al to and to the governments established in the United States United States and in the state partially and justly perform all the duties of [Music] that's not yours that you will get one to sign will get you will get one to sign good thing I put I forgot that I'm read without your name on it okay here we go we do it all I Edward gettings I Edward gettings do solemnly swear do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the constitution of the state of New Jersey and the constitution of the state of New Jersey that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same and to the governments established in the United States to the governments established in the United States and in the state of New Jersey and in the state of New Jersey under the authority of the people under the authority of the people and that I will faithfully and that I will faithfully impartially impartially and justly perform all the duties of cling W and that I will faithfully and partially and justly uh chair yes chair thank you [Applause] you tricked me with all short ones there we go all right congratulations thanks Mr chairman okay next up we have approval of the annual notice of meetings we had just a note for everybody we had made a change to this last year where we deleted or did not include the meeting uh that always conflicted with Thanksgiving and then at the end of the year so that continues this year so can I have a motion to approve the actually just before that I want to just be sure um the chairman Vice chair have indicated to both myself and Jeff that the March 12th meeting that we have scheduled that they are already unavailable for that meeting Joe so I wasn't sure if both of them are not here who's to run the meeting or if we cannot have a meeting boy all these tough all these tough questions right now um we would still have a quarum right so it's just a question of who's going to chair why don't we just have somebody act as whoever they we can agree to now to to proceed for that meeting so I mean that's and Don if you'd like between you anded Ed and Donna if they want to recommend someone to run the meeting so does it have to be a class one or like because the chair and vice chair can only be citizen I'd have to look into that I don't know what to top of my head yeah let me let me think about let me think about that yeah it was a l that's okay you know I'm I'm earning my salary already it's all good know that I read the by yeah and it says that the mayor the chair and vice chair have to be citizen what was that class four yeah class four class CL four yes I'm sorry so then that would be James and Michelle and Michelle Melle could Glen GL Glen and Glen yeah so if that's what the bylaw say then it should be then make it James run be the Pro 10 that evening I make sure I am there then all right so there you go I'll put that there just in case very good 12 and in in the November is that does that conflict with the league of municipalities or no it's usually if five days later it is it's not not the same week you normally do that okay it's like the week after okay great great yeah that week nothing gets St yeah typically down there as [Laughter] well okay did we get we had we had a motion just not a second second okay chairman Miss arbert gings yes Vice chair Miss Donna Drews yes uh Mr Rober Patu yes Mr Scott McDade yes Mr Dennis McCannon yes Mr James Miller yes Mr Glenn solowski yes okay we also have this evening the bylaws of the planning board of R and Township can I have a motion to approve those motion second uh chairman Mr Edward gennings yes Vice chairman M Don Drew yes Mr Robert P yes Mr Scott McDade yes Mr Dennis mcon Mr James Miller Mr Glen yes okay some minor things to deal with such as the document reproduction fees can I have a motion to approve the document summarizing the document reproduction fees second chairman Mr Edward gettings yes Vice chairman Miss Don Drew yes Mr Rob Pat yes Mr Scott McDade yes Mr Dennis conanan Mr James Miller yes Mr gleni yes okay I had a question on the appointment of certified shorthand reporter because there's no name associated with this this is just requiring them to provide one oh to provide oh as we had recently okay very good thanks for clarifying that can I have a motion to approve the appointment of certified shorthand reporter resolution 4-22 so move second chairman Mr we're gettings yes Vice chair Miss Donna Drew yes M Robin fat Mr Scott McDade yes Mr Dennis quanan yes Mr James Miller yes Mr gleni can I answer a question regarding that sir do do does the court reporter and every application do they prepare the transcript and submit it to the board as a matter of course so you and every no matter what they give me a copy whether or not it's appealed or whatever you get a copy um can I get a copy of that oh you do I do okay that's fantastic yeah yeah that's beyond fantastic I wish I wish every reproduction fees might yeah you want facts facts pick facts I I love it I love it may be the chair but Taylor runs that's well said J okay all right then next up resolution 52025 this is the resolution delegating completeness incompleteness and completeness waver determinations to the township planner and board secretary a motion to approve so moved second I'll give that to James chairman Miss arber gettings yes Vice chairman Miss Donna Drew yes M Robin Fatu yes Mr Scott McDade yes Mr danis quanon Mr James Miller Mr gleni Yes W we're all set next up we have the r r Township planning board 2025 rules and regulations for approval can I have a recommendation to approve this a motion to approve motion to approve please second thank you chairman Miss ER gennings yes Vice chairman Drew yes Mr Rob Fatu yes Mr Scott McDade yes Mr Dennis conanan yes M Mr James Miller yes Mr Glenn soos yes next up we address the various can I Ed can I interrupt one I don't know if this applies I was just glancing this over how many have you been chairman in a row it says you can only do two years in a row R row R row R row oh I'm I don't know why you called that so you've been a few years maybe we need to uh at our next meeting amend our if I'm looking at page four of it I'm at at least oh yeah yeah right so page four one semic Whatever two- one under chair goly G sherff shall not be eligible to serve more than two consecutive terms in office but this shall not preclude further service after a lapse of one or more years Can Am it unless your name is yeah you can amend it you can you definitely can amend it so should we put that on how do we amend it at a does it have to be amended by the committee or I don't know these are the bylaws of this this Committee of this board right yeah so it's your it's your it's can we handle tonight I don't see why not you just St go back to the vote and just say amended with or something or other because you already you already approved them right yes okay so one1 would you have to do a motion to resend the approval and then make a motion to no just just make a just make just make a motion to amend the approved bylaws uh to you know with respect to section would we suggest it restate from what it says now this is on page four section one colon 2-1 yeah yes just stri that last strike the less just take the whole thing out just okay yeah just the last sentence just strike the last sentence right yes okay I'm assuming you know I'm not saying we need does anybody have a problem with that you know speak now I mean every year you have to reappoint the chair so there's always an opportunity to have a the facto go yeah I suppose if anybody really oppos somebody would have said something by now right yeah but does anybody have a problem with Shing in sentence without adding something in I'm fine I'm to be yeah thank you and again the reality is there's no penalty for violating your own you know what I'm saying you know what I'm saying like at the end of the day like you know it's like yeah right all right so a motion to approve the rules and regulations for 2025 with the amended well I think there was already a mo I think there was already a motion to approve so I think now there should be is there a motion to amend the approved uh 2025 board uh rules and regulations to strike the last sentence of rule one col 2-1 okay I know that was James made the motion and who second it I'll second chairman Mr Edward gettings yes Vice chair Miss Donna Drew yes M Rober F two yes Mr Scott McDade yes Mr Dennis Fanon Mr James Miller Mr Glen silos yes all right Scott you get the speed reading you know uh I read this if I had it before here SC the getting lives for for another year what I was looking for if it had something to do with who could chair the meeting and then I saw thanks for bringing that up that's good catch so just so you know I I just quickly because this is the first time I'm seeing them rule uh 5 4-1 amendments to the rule says you're supposed to provide a three-day written notice to the board members in advance but again you will by that vote as far as I'm concerned I believe that and I just want the record to be clear you've all waved your right to that prior written notice so there's again there's no there's no foul so okay very good now we can move on to the planning board committees uh looking for volunteers on the onsite everybody everybody choose to do it we don't usually don't I mean I don't know actually I think the BOS do say on S sites can be the Saturday before the regular meeting and we all go okay it's not like it's any specific person the whole it's the whole board as many people as field trip whoever can make it makes it if we choose to have there has if it's more than a quorum though doesn't it have to be noticed yes it has to be noticed it does but since we haven't done one in yeah I was gonna say AUM would be five so we just make sure it's always four correct and even if he just go in different group that's it even if you're go in the same day just don't all go together yeah okay fair enough okay all right next up is the technical Review Committee I would like to be part of that again in the coming year I think Donna should definitely be on Donna should definitely be on sorry you can't get you can't get away from it I'm out last year was uh Ed Donna and James jam and it is the technical Review Committee yeah I'm happy to do it again unless someone else really wants to get on I can't love to have you James okay thank you you good with we actually did a lot of work in the list we had we had probably the five at least five I actually told the mayor or incoming mayor I said you know we have this staff technical Review Committee and it's helped to avoid because we were having a conversation about the burent of your office and what you guys have to manage and that the technical Review Committee has put in extra hours as volunteers to ensure that you avoid kind of having it here at the planning for Forum so um I know valued and I was echoing the only thing um I'd like some additional guidance on because there was some question about when applicants come in the notice requirements for them to notice that they're coming so it was something that um Jonathan Jonathan drill had some sort some reference or some case law that there was of course he did we yeah it's not something that we he should write a book oh he did so if you could you have to do it tonight maybe at our next but I I don't think I understand the issue so there's a not there's a case that deals with notice with respect to a technical Review Committee so if there's any decisions or anything that would um impact application then it you have to provide notice to surrounding properties to be observ observant of those decisions or any any uh actions so are decisions pretty specific about making suggestions exactly right only suggestions not decisions we tell the applicant no decisions what we think and but the decision comes down to the bo right the full yeah and that's typically how they're done at the technical in other words it's like you can have you can either like somebody could insist on well for example this one that was just noticed with all of the The Sheds all over the place right they could have that's an example of where with the technical Review Committee they could have said we're gonna we're going to remove all of those non-conforming structures to streamline the application therefore and had they done that it would have been a shout they this board would have had no right to deny the subdivision but because they've got 34 variances they're requesting they now run the risk of this board saying we're not going to approve it we're not going to Grant those things so that's an example I guess to your point of we suggest that you do that but we're not we're not requiring you to do so so I'll get clar i'll get clarification from John about what his point is I suspect you've resolved the issue already in terms of if you're not requiring making a decision and suggesting to me you're just reviewing the application for technical compliance so it can come before the board where the decision would be made that is going to be noticed I don't see a problem with it but I'll run it by uh IL du and make sure that you know and and say to James's Point we've been consistent very clear on that he just wants to make sure you're CLE at the time I can remember Ed saying more than once well this is what I think is really important but I can't speak for the board it's gonna come or rephrase it these are the issues that historically come up with these types of applications that you need to be aware of right be aware of your trees buddy right right right right okay stor water yeah okay all right okay so next we have the liazon so no we didn't approve that yes soed yeah yeah I would like to you know try to make further Headway with the RTM and the meeting is the 16th with with John and Scott to attend didn't make much Headway last year but you got there is that okay y yeah absolutely Glenn thank you next up is the Flemington Ron board of education but that one was Michelle last year I don't want to necessarily speak on her behalf but we'll speak on her behalf we will not won let she doesn't want let us [Laughter] know one with young kids in the school yeah you know yeah but we'll see she doesn't want it she can tell us next okay and with respect to the historians committee both Scott and I been sitting on the historians committee I'd like to do the same year yes so obviously Scott represents the township and I represent the board it's a lot of the next is the COA Coordination Committee it was me it was not Donna it was it it was Ed Robin and Michelle edin Michelle I think we should keep that just because you've been involved well as chair you should probably be on yeah I I wish I could say we've been involved but there hasn't we haven't had a lot of activity yeah we're waiting for Jessica's report Y and I met with Jessica yesterday with car well speak louder if you're gonna say speak to the microphone yeah speak to the microphone if you that meetings or yes there there's been there's there's been one meeting already with Karen and Jessica and I so okay well that's something it's Michelle Robin and so I will reach out to Michelle to let her know about the both the Board of Education and the uh co-a Coordinating Committee just so she's got that information and obviously if she is not interested then we'll bring it back to the board at the next meeting okay I think we're done with the reord steps uh there are no minutes this evening Jeff did you want to say something about the email that you sent out to all of us on the hydrologist lastly yes so um as part of sub new subdivisions and new site plans there's an aquafer test requirement and in the procedure it references a um a municipal appointed hydrologist hydrogeologist H geologist excuse me say that correctly so uh that's something that there's there's an application that uh requires it and they are going forth with the testing and they just had some questions about who's going to be reviewing it or who's the appointed hydrog geologist so have we any clue on you find surrounding townships like I would guess Clinton probably has one in West am because they all have yeah have you reached out to other planners uh no but uh Ryan uh was also in the conversation and he was going to check with ER oh perfect this just happened yesterday yeah it happened yesterday but it's something that I did I did uh ask around I think we have somebody but they are in the process of partially being retired so I still need to talk to him he uh he now lives in Bloomsburg yeah so it's like a three-hour drive so I know this wouldn't be a a thing that happens all the time but I just have to i' have to speak to him first before I don't want to say anything on his behalf so uh we are checking though so if something avilable yeah I could look at other municipalities as well Montgomery rington I'm sending I'm sending an email to Readington right now okay Hydro geologist oh yeah is that for all subdivisions new ones yeah and Jeff I think it's it's just for subdivisions where they require new wells right if I I just want to make sure ma major subdivisions major subdivision with new LS yes that's correct yeah I think it was four or more yeah okay we get that ball rolling yeah if so the protocol would be if this is perfect if um our engineering firm does not have someone then we would have to do Point through Professional Services contract very okay okay sounds field yeah next up is Citizens privilege I should note for the record that there are no members of our community here in the room with us this evening and Taylor Just affirm there's nobody online with us this evening correct this year we have uh taken the option for Zoom for members of the public is no longer available sorry and it's only eligible for board members or board Professionals for any type of emergency or inconvenience the township yeah meeting and our agenda does show a public hearing for Flemington concrete products and we received a request from them to move that earlier today you wanted to read that into the yep so we have a letter of Correspondence here from mcnali Yos kazinski and lime it's dated January 8th 20125 directed to myself Taylor vaugh and it states Dear Miss vaugh as you know our office represents the applicant in connection with the above ma above caption matter this correspondents shall confirm our requests to carry this application from the January 8th 2025 meeting to the February 26th 2025 planning board meeting without without further publication or notice in addition the applicant agrees to extend the time for the board to act to March 31st 2025 thank you in advance for your continued assistance with this matter very truly yours miss carara a kazinski thank Taylor thanks for taking care of that so when is it carried to it's carried to February 26 February 26 okay I am not aware of any correspondence we need to address today this evening discussions and recommendations unless somebody has something else see I think we're good the next meeting is uh January 22nd we've got a pretty full agenda that night um for that one we actually only have um the NJ conservation application and then the Joseph MCN the MCN is on yes just the two applications for that night okay very good with that thank you everybody for all your service to the board and to the community and certainly both of you to the township committee it's a lot of work goes into all of this really very much appreciate everybody's work certainly Jeff and Taylor all your heart efforts and welcome welcome thank you so much thank you I'm excited so thank you return I say that now put that in the record and remind me at the end of the year yeah you too bye Glenn bye Ryan bye bye guys thanks everybody have a good night good with your hand thank you