e I'm turning you're unmuted and John Parson's the oh apparently Precinct meeting is not um not the place to place to be that's
funny alrighty let's get started I call this meeting to order 6:30 Council on Aging um today is the
10th and the agenda is relatively short do you have an agenda there Chris would you like one no I should be good okay weome yes yeah do you want to do the
attendance yeah okay um so Marilyn here Jean yes here Karen panette yeah uh uh Karen Janowski Nancy zimac um Ros Marie
here all right I think John oh John are you on I'm here um sorry all right I'm just going to wait till you
get the screen up with everybody did you count the second present John who we have oh John I did not call your name I'm sorry but now he's called St
here here guys my hopes are up now they're just all getting dashed technology and everything uh here we go yeah what do you mean your hopes are up
we can't see you hold on there's Rosemary beautiful where's John hold on there we go there he is yay sorry about that folks and we have
rctv alrighty so um we did attendance we called to order um I don't think we have any minutes we're going to just have one meeting that's to vot yeah they aren't posted yet I have like
a p big all right so we move into business and we always do a select word update first you have anything for us Chris and we know I'd have
a like being on the spot yeah join sent you their agenda yeah is it on the [Music] agenda people have to pay attention I guess the update is on the
maybe had a meeting prior to um when Mark uh stepped down three weeks then any event um yeah know I'm uh excited to see what goes on here as well
um majority of meeting such as watch from home or remotely and one and a half two times speed Etc yeah that works for me not other people um yeah that's pretty much it I know um the select board will be voting April 1 I believe
for the warrant for uh the new Senior Center thing as well as Kellum um so we'll see how that goes but pretty much it great is pickle ball on the on that warrant it's not is warrant self has it
the separate warrant is just K and the okay Y and I'm I'm do you know the details and I'll put you on the spot I was trying to explain it this morning
how the town meeting can can um vote to not approve the killum in um uh recal project but then it's going to go to the
townwide vote anyways and they could approve the the project so then it would have to be another special Town unit I believe after the fact um to say listen the town voted
XYZ do you want to change the way that you know this I didn't realize that they said it at the was the meeting at the meeting they were talking about this oh interesting and also at
the selecte so even if the town votes yes and town meeting still says no it's a no I'm not sure it goes in the Quasi 192 people must have made the wrom okay yeah so that's an interesting
little twist of town government I think there was even an issue raised at select board they said even a select board for some reason it's their right to do it if they want but didn't seem to be the conversation uh tone um decided no it
nevertheless goes to that vote even if it doesn't go on it's very confusing we get closer I'm sure things will be outlined uml Kum tonight is specifically talking about it and
then as we get closer obviously to to pass normal elections onto the special one that's what everyone paying attention unfortunately the consensus seem to be it would be unfortunate if we don't all agree but we'll figure it out so
interesting um Elder and Human Services report Chris you're run welcome great you had a really good February um February is always the the one month that's kind of uh you never know what's going to happen with the
weather um so we did have um our numbers were still really good um you know as always you know I try to average uh 3,000 interactions uh a month and we are average if if you average back to July
we're still above uh above 3,000 which is really nice um with that said though we did have um we had a we would have been above 3,000 this February um couple things against us we had a cancel due to the weather um
uh one day it was um February 6th um when we was yeah yeah so we had a we canceled um which had the birthday laun a few other larger activities but
um I always want to make sure um I know I think schools were a half day or something that day um but I'm always I always want to make sure especially with the older adult population I don't want someone to
fall um and and and get hurt um so I always um go on the side of being just being careful and I tell this people all the time and programs in classes especially before and through winter you know if you feel unsafe please stay home
I'd rather you stay home for a day then you to try to get out and You' be in rehab for like a month or two or you know worse worse um so no matter what I will always especially with the older adult um
population 60 plus I always want want them to be safe I know I trust their opinions I you know but you never know what happen happens if there's ice if there's anything um so we did have a couple days um had to cancel some programs here and
there but you know what we still had a really good February as you can see we were just under 2900 interaction so 2864 you know we would have been well above 3,000 if we hadn't canceled um and you know for a shorter month you know if
we hadn't canceled that would have been great for a day with only a month with only 28 days so really really glad about the numbers in February so um um as you can see um PSC had a great February having no program at February
Su weather brought our numbers in month below 3,000 we just talked about that um couple things coming up we have a um psse annual health fair on Tuesday May 20th um it's from 10: a.m. to 12 p.m so our annual health fair will be coming up
it's usually a really good event so uh I've been working with um Olivia the public health nurse and nurse Advocate um to get that going so we're excited for that event coming up St Patrick's Day lunch is um sold out in three
hours you know um which is great um as of the 7eventh we had 19 people on the wait list so um you know it shows you know how tight we are in space it's great that usually two or three hours especially the larger events so out and
we usually I'm sure I didn't look today but um I'm sure we're above um 20 probably close to 30 people on the wait list now um so um that is good um property tax workof program as of Friday
morning um we had nine completed applications in um and we had two um almost completed applications um they were turned in but we need to just kind of um uh get those complete we have roughly
about another 25ish applications out um the only thing that we um we would have more than 10 right now um some people don't want to put their tax information or their number or what they yearly
salary on the application so that's kind of made some folks kind of pull back and not do it this year so we're going to revisit that to see rather than write it down maybe we can just visually see it and then just sign off that hey this person's good um so we're going to
revisit that but we've had a great response we'll have our 10 spots filled um like we anticipated um a lot of interest um I didn't check uh Janet was out today six so I didn't get an update on if any applications um came in um or
anything so um but we're excited about that wait I have a question so I remember when you did the presentation to the sled board what I what I what I recall is that there really wasn't much interest in the past and this is that
correct and this seems to have generated a great deal of Interest what do you think is the difference um so we raised the Sal the income limit to mirror and match other towns and what other towns are doing uh Janet took a lot of time to
and she went through a lot of surrounding towns probably 10 20 different towns doing our research um right now for a single is seven right around 72 for a couple um for a couple it's
102 but you can only well only one person in that couple go yeah um so we really kind of you know before it was only $ 48,000 okay dollar so you know like we said we did our research we did what we needed our due diligence we looked at
what other towns were doing um some some towns don't even have a li income limit Buton but we thought it was best to put an income limit in but it kind of mirrors what um you know common practice now the other thing is we um thanks to
the select board um and their approval um I think you had to give approval um we raised it from $8 an hour to $15 an hour so we went essentially to minimum wage so two those are two big factors
that I think really kind of rejuvenated it um outside of that I'm not quite sure because I'm not quite sure how it was how it operated in the past I think in the past Chris if at one time if one of
the app applicant had a trust yeah yeah wanted to see the complete trust that's still the same most of the requirements are still the same everything that we did before same the the things the two things that really changed was the
income limit and the um was that the pay in the p in the pay so everything else she said nine or n right now we have uh nine completed applications two incomplete and 25 applications still out there is there a deadline applications
the the deadline was um uh just the end the last week but you know we can go over a little bit and we're not going to be very we don't have to be hard you know you know people can so get their
yeah and so you didn't spill the 10 spots in previous years is that correct um not since I've been there yeah that's good looks like I'm not sure how it was before like You' uh two and a half yeah
Program start in June or was it uh July July so it'll start in July you know we got um good interest it's a very you know it's very good because you know I know the couple of the local school Schools elementary schools like cafeteria workers um you know are asking
some for some volunteers so it's kind of a win-win seniors can get a help with their taxes a little bit but we can also provide volunteers for you know other Town departments so we're really excited about so and if it's well received we
could expand it in the well yeah we can uh reevaluate and you know if you know we're that's why we're not doing a hard deadline because we want to see out of those last 25 applications we want to see how many of those um how many of
those come back we want to see what interest we have so um you know to should be good so that's property tax that's the where right where we want it going really well oh Rosemary you're
muted still muted on this monthly report what progress has been made to add a line here for the number of people who are waiting to get yep I'm getting to that in a minute stand by
um so um all right the property tax work off San for seniors has taken off um if I know we had mentioned sand for seniors oh sand sand that's and D for seniors um originally in the past some
towns I know I did it in we did it in Somerville you really have to be careful I know we used to try to find volunteers to shovel driveways or sidewalks and stuff liability for that was getting high so we found um that um thanks to Janet
um we we looked around in San for seniors um it was something that we doesn't cost us much we we can get sand from the DPW really we just have to purchase buckets with lids and some scoopers um and we deliver them to
anyone that needs them um so over the past couple weeks I think we we sent out we deliver about 15 buckets of sand wow um and what's really nice about it is um the folks at home are thankful but
they're care caregivers people who come into the house are even more than because they they feel they can spread it themselves so they can don't have to fight the ice getting in so that's kind of a nice added bonus that we've been
hearing from folks so thank you for and I want to say thank you to Janet and Carrie for delivering those so um another successful um program that's that we can deliver that was those white buckets I saw on Facebook right yep yep
Janet put them on Facebook has a Pleasant Street Center logo on them U most almost 3/4 of the way filled with sand um with a little we got a little scooper in that we can you know uh deliver so it's a good
way to it's kind of have a happy medium we don't have to shovel or find students to shovel um but we can just deliver and and also the nice thing is during delivery it's a good way for like carrye to check in on the the population senior
population so you know the more we can kind of get out there and do something like this like deliver like a bucket of sand or whatever it might be um it's nice because Carrie can get a contact to see how folks are doing so which is
great um going back to um Rosemary's um go oh um weight list Rosemary so if you see on the top of page two uh event weit list it was February but what I what I'm going to
start doing is I added a category for weight list if you look so birthday lunch even though it was cancelled we had three on the weight list um and Valentine's lunch um we had five we ended up with five the weather again
weather relats so you'll see I'll keep adding the weight lists for each month it'll start to change now that we're out of February and the WEA is getting nicer um so I'll keep add in that those are the two just because February is a fky
month um then for seniors uh next recal public forums uh Tuesday March 25th starting at 6 pm at pleas Street Center and then on Thursday March 27th um at 10:00 am here in the select board town uh select Board Room next door here of
the next two public forums for recap um PSC update PSC was closed on um Monday February 17th holiday can I can I just mention one thing those public forums probably should be well attended because that's where they're gonna um focus on
the money yeah the finances so they're good events we get pretty good we get really good turnouts so we're really excited about that um no program there's no program after that we continue to push online registration with my active Center that's going really well more and more
folks are using it which is nice so that's kind of alleviating the number of phone calls yeah Linda gets what would be great if they did they sent out a reminder you know how like the dentist
off but if even if the if that software had like a built-in reminder so you got an email a couple days yeah before I'm I'm being smart Alex anyhow that's going really
well um not everyone will use it but you know what we slowly will get folks and I we I make sure that people know that they can still call they can still stop in so we're trying to cater to everyone um which is always a challenge for us
because right now it's 60 plus to uh someone just pass at 104 so we've been 60 plus to 104 which is a wide range so we try hard to let people know they want to use it great they want to continue calling great they want to
continue coming in great so we want to make sure we have every Avenue to make sure we're catering to everyone um so they can participate um and then the last thing on my PSD update was um ARP tax prep services on Wednesdays have been going
on um it's been going really well a lot of good signups um not many Kinks this year thank God it seems um I haven't heard last year was you know one we brought it back um you know we worked out all the Kinks last year so things seem to be going smoothly
this year so we're really really happy about that how many how many days um through Tech season um it's one day a week Wednesdays right now I know at some point I'm gonna say this before someone else comments you say a word I
thought you thinking I know your gears are turning up top there you know we'll do it you know right now ARP has just mornings but we will examine other times um in the future I I can't guarantee anything I
don't know if it'll happen in the near future distance but um worth asking so it's on definitely on my radar before someone someone um trust funds John no this
oh par par you're muted there you go no I'm not um Chris is there any way when this tax program starts out at the beginning of the year that you can talk to somebody to find out whether they are qualified enough to handle certain
situations well a um AAP has requirements um for it's pretty much a has to be a pretty simple tax return um
if you have a rental income if you once you start you know Veer off of anything more complicated AARP we don't we don't have any we don't determine this ARP does and the on that side so they have
they give us an entire sheet of you know yes and NOS if they have this we can't do it um which is fair because you know these the tax prep people are volunteers um a lot of them just got
trained um you know if they're new they just get trained um so you really don't if it if it is complicated you don't really want them to you know they're not going to know simple is good more complex you're gonna
have to you know need to find somebody that really that knows knows the system so but that's set by it's a good question John but set by ARP Rosemary you have a hand up I do um I'm looking through the paperwork in the past we had
a running total of the monies that was spent and who it was going to has that eliminated because everything's been allocated hey I'm getting there Rosy you're about you're about three
three minutes ahead of me always always will be hold on I just needed to get through my report first here Rosemary go ahead all right trust funds um you can take a look at the trust funds we haven't touched um I
do need to pull from the uh patrons um fund um because it has an annual I would like to pull um up to Chris good to see you thanks
for see me on TV in two minutes down the hall okay thanks thank you for coming so I think I can do this tonight I can always request money at any meeting I think right you've we've
never dealt we used to always put it on here for some reason by the way probably because we stopped drawing money yeah we St so do I need to wait until next month I'm not sure because it's not on here technically I think so okay I will wait until next month if we can just remember
that I would like to pull um we can make a motion this month we can vote on want to do is um cover April's birthday lunch cost out of that fund how much you need up to
300 we can make the motion yeah vote till Chris February yeah what happens with so anyone who had a anyone who had a birthday um still got their gift card
that they came in okay um so yeah we didn't okay yeah we we didn't have a good way to reschedule it but it was just fair that you know the gift that we give to them the gift card they so so yeah so which one of these trust fund
Pages needs to it is the patrons which is on I can figure out which one is Qui okay starting on page 31 I miss it I may have just missed a
page so it's permanent Elder patr older yeah okay 30 page 30 page 30 got a pull from it once a [Music]
year so I'd like to um cover the birthday birthday lunch and um April up to up to 300 cost that's good great we'll vote on it
next month great thank you anyhow we haven't again we haven't touched anything from the trust funds those continue to grow um and still do really good which is great um and then going back to Rosemary's um question next
month I will get a update on on the AR but I just didn't have time I apologize I know you guys requested that last meeting um with um with recal and everything going on um I
just I just didn't get that out um so I will be getting an arpa update for you um Rosemary kind of like um so you kind of know where things are for next month thank you I apologize again for not
being a to get that so that is that report trust funds and our update all righty thank you very much um putting Nora on the spot here um we
can both kind it do it together but just an update on what's happening with the friends of dreading senior 60 plus we had a meeting today um and one of the um we just went
over some of our our activities we went to the YMCA last month uh the reading just to introduce ourselves um but we found there was a lot of non- reading members that attend the Y but they were interested in our um program we also
donated um we've been collecting money and uh we have $112,000 now and we did give $1,000 to the reading food bank with the um caveat of that seniors be
um prioritized yeah um and we're also working on another fundraiser in May 31st an Antique Road Show type auction at St Agnes Hall um so we're just beginning to get
that going um someone knows someone that does this um so you're allowed to bring items to get ready the town years ago I don't know organization did that really and it was very well received for some
reason I think it was the library oh now is it just antiques or is it like artwork too they had a whole list um I think I think it's more General than antiques but there will be a list of what exactly and you pay a c well we're
not sure yet because you pay per item to get looked at or you have two items whatever and then there's going to be a lot of discussion where people just watched the whole thing so we thought maybe there should be like a entrance for that right addition yeah we're just
talking about that today but it's May 31st which is um satday Saturday 10 two it was and they quite a few participants can fit in that about 200 that's what they said and they were very impressed with the facility yes
they have a great kitchen and sounds like got flea market um what else we had a new member there who's who has some initiatives um you mention it yeah for the seniors um sort of the
homebound seniors that may need computer support she was wondering um she has a lot of experience she's a librarian plus she has a family member that is that had a lot of needs and she felt that um the homebound are sort of neglected with the
computer support and we mentioned how Nancy at the senior center had the um has her program she to help out that was a a good Initiative for us she she seems to
be very knowledgeable about grants what's out there and terms of how to write them so that um they're targeted to to what we want so Chris you might want to you know think
about that in terms of Grants if there's some project rolling around there in the back of your mind we we do have um I was gonna give an update next meeting um just and I was kind of finalizing some
stuff on it um we got through mves we got an iPad um and an iPad program I I was wondering will happen I will give everyone update on that next month
so I don't have the details for this meeting but I'll update you for next month on that hello yeah uh I just wanted to comment that anyone we can enlist who has
knowledge of Grants grant writing is very valuable my opinion and the other thing Nora the $12,000 uh balance in friends is that all invested anywhere no it it's just no well it's
just coming in um and then it's an account in an account are you asking like a high yield savings account or something Rosary OCD something to get then you're limited if you're trying to do another
you can't pull from that you can you can pull from money a high yield savings account or super saam something like that you might be locked into and right now it's like 4% so it grows but any that's not you think you can do a money
market um sorry Rosemary what was the one comment you just had about the fund money grant writing I think anybody who has knowledge in grant writing is very very valuable and we should embrace them
fully yeah so anyhow um last year I had um Janet got training in Grant she took a course in grant writing um which opened up um access to
a computer system array of Brands and stuff so we've been working on that for about a year now um but I had we had gotten the funding for her to take that course so she can um we did get one from the reading
um uh reading cultural counil we got 500 from for a couple programs and things so we've been working you know all add to my list update you all next week on it fun doesn't the national on the Massachusetts Council and aging y they
have some stuff yes um what what's been challenging is with with the arpa funding um because we couldn't oversaturate ourselves um there was about a year year and a half ago um I know North Reading
and I had applied to some grants but we got denied we're assuming because a lot of folks knew that we had a lot of the which to be honest is fair um you know so we'll be picking that pace up so
think it was anything that was good they they are such a gungho group it's very impressive that the Mandarin fundraiser oh yeah raised
$400 how much pretty good 400 400 um well thank you Nora uh let's see COA calendar now when I wrote this I probably had a reason I
don't know what's on M well well you know it's on May 5th meeting then why did maybe I swapped it maybe it's supposed to be move 55 yeah to
512 oh yes I read that somewhere we doing like the second these days yeah the 12th but you and I talked Nancy to move it to the 5th because it would give us more
time something's happening in like miday the 13th oh that's what it is May 13th is the vote so we wanted to move the May COA meeting to the 5th to discuss any
you know have any meetings so we can't yeah is town meeting on the 5th special town meeting is the is the first but they expect that things will go to okay anyhow I think our theory was
we just wanted to give our give the COA more time between voting on May 13th right but I don't but I don't think it do that yeah our hands are pretty much tied anyway let's just have a vote counting party see what happens
April May so um this conversation went better between ancy and I about a week but now we just forget all the reasonings behind it but it was really sounded really good all right so we're crossing out the
fifth and um we might as well just keep the 12 yeah we'll keep the 12 um who knows we no no but anyway in about two hours Nancy and I are going to
be like I know why we did that um recal update um I was going to give a quickie update but jean and Marilyn can also pipe in the three of us are on work the work groups uh Jean and
Marilyn are on the uh uh design stage design stage and stakeholder I hate that word and then um and I'm on Communications so
um what though was just completed was the schematic design the schematic design went um had like a f review process so everybody put their two cents
in and then Brian and um Joel took it and kind of did a a master schedule and then we all looked at it again for the assessment to see if we felt and I and I
mean the whole group that's the the the permanent building committee if anything was missing or additional questions you need to be asked so um and we came up with some things that
we thought were were missing and um if anybody wants to see that Excel spreadsheet just let me know some of it's minuscule like
moving I don't know like doorway a doorway from here to here but others were um a bigger um task one one of the things that
um uh the town has is moving in this direction to take the new community center and kind of divided in half so the The West
Wing where the offices are there's two big rooms down there there's uh the lounge on the first floor lounge and the game roomer down there
so we kind of did some Jerry rigging of of that we also went to Wilmington oh yeah and um we love the what is it called the shared bath they're not sh
compion compion compion we put that in and so we put one of those in were the caregivers the ones that Joel said were big enough but they were explicitly companion bathroom Wilmington you saw the're labeled
companion and what what they are is you know when you at an airport bathroom there's no door so you walk in there's that's that was a companion no The Companion ones have doors and they have science say
companion the regular bathrooms no doors okay yeah and they and they and they are just like the airport you know you kind of do this or the same thing to get in is that how this is designed not it was
not so accessibility but now we submitted so we submitted that the other thing that we submitted um I'm not going to look at Chris talk about but
downstairs there are two big rooms 1,000 square feet one is um going to have the kind of floor that allows uh dance and yoga and that kind
of thing and then the other one was uh was was flex room and what we asked was can we divide that room in half and put
a movable curtain in there and then Chris has one big room if he needs it for exercise but also two smaller rooms because you might not want 1,000 square
foot room for the Maron players it creates the opportunity to three activities at once going on supposed to just two I'm a big fan of you know multiple use I I did talk to
Jenna last week just a little bit so it's at least on our radar um I don't know if we can do it we may be able to do it but I had uh last week I actually um our current great room is around 1100
square ft I thought it was 1150 might be 11 1150 one thing I had never actually calculated though was usable space within that until next week so you know around the perimeter you have the Bingo
machine you have the tables you have a sideboard you have the piano you have the chair rack so even though it's 1100 1150 no storage yeah there's so it's
actually I did a quick one during Bingo they thought I looked weird as I was counting tiles and then people were like what are you doing I was like just going crazy folks it's fine um join me yeah exactly and so I actually think usable space is
below a thousand um so I talked to Jenna about I want to calculate this when I have a little extra time just in case we need to move that wall to maybe maybe to make one room a little bit larger I I don't
know I just wanted to I don't uh I don't know I I just want to make sure because those are both a th square feet I just want to make sure we can adequately fit 30 people in that room or at least one of
them I see so I put that Jen and I talked about it put that on the radar good idea um but and we'll also have the gym and and the uh great room right which are huge and there really aren't
any small smaller type rooms for you know a group like this and it's not a room like if you just wanted to have a conference on something you know yeah just a meeting on something like the book club we saw Wilmington they were filling one of their conference rooms we
have no space that's kind of this size actually what brought it up and that's why I started because I had someone come in um people have been saying oh how wonderful womaning is and then now I finally got to people being like they
have problems they as they work themselves when they finally get in there and they're sitting they're like they can't really fit 30 people in rooms um there's no blinds and they're
not going to get blinds and so I'm starting to finally hear the just like any new building the short the shortcomings and that's when it start I started counting the tites great room so
um which is kind of helpful that I'm starting to have people that's willing to be like yes it's a beautiful building but they have to cap a lot of their activities because they don't have the space they actually don't have that many activity rooms period no they've
got a giant dining assembly anything on Earth you would want movie theater room that's connected to the Giant commercial kitchen so they set up for big people functions there but the really there's the there's a room where the exercise
was going on there's a conference room two conference rooms I think and the art room the art room and the exercise equipment room um and I think that's it for activities right now um and they're not huge I mean they the
biggest actually I think one of the bigger ones is their Lounge that's kind of hidden up the back that's really a big room but it's carpeted and meant to be their Lounge but give them time they've only been open two weeks they'll find more and
made their Reception Area you entered was off to the side is that nice hello people as they come in I like what we have straight on right
yeah yeah Rosemary Rosemary um for me I find that soundproof in certain rooms are very important has anybody discussed that and also the entrances to the building uh we
I think we need almost like a double entrance you go in one set of doors the bad weather was captured in between a second set doors before you go in and possibly have one doorway for handicapped people make sure that that's
covered outside and a separate door for people just to walk in that they don't have to have the door automatically open for them has anybody discuss that sound well not two doors but yeah I mean
I think the entrance Ros is meant to accommodate everybody and accommodate people with all right right now walk into the center it gets a blast of cold a there has to be some way to capture that cold ear from going into the second
area and that would be almost having two doors you go in well here's here's what I recommend for anybody in this room that thinks of something like what rosemaria is
suggesting because the schematic design is it we hit the deadline for that but the next stage is design development and what that is it's going to um re
refine the uh the the pieces that have been suggested and I I can't tell enough people people really need to go to recal need to go to that uh uh email
address and need to put these comments in you know otherwise they're they're not going to get in and I've you know I've I tell people that all the time make sure make
sure you tell I mean go to the website like Nancy just said make sure you type in your thoughts I mean it's not not on the agenda to talk about tonight but you know it's good to make sure you write them down make sure you get him submitted um so we have the ideas and
speak up with at the upcoming forum debate later the upcoming forums speak up you know don't feel like oh I'm on the council I shouldn't ask or oh my question isn't speak up if it's on your mind it's on
someone else's mind raise the hands and ask those questions did you Nancy find out we were talking about the size of the can hear you the I'm sorry it look um Nancy and I had spoken about the size
of the great room that's proposed in our sen and it has um a cap of 125 people with right crowds because at the Wilmington it was a very large room and a c at 247 but we weren't sure if that
was um with the rounds or not or a single SE what the what's the maximum for this I actually we did talk about I forget was on the wall no but
we it was 247 okay okay but ours rounds is 125 so SE yeah yeah good question because I know I mean right now we've got a waiting list we're expanding is
125 really enough for Rounds well did she at Wilmington was that total for the their theaters side for both sides it was the whole huge yeah them together yeah it
was interesting the other thing is I did ask well what we do safely or what yeah I mean tables round tables safely I like to do 60 yeah because that allows people with Walkers and wheelchairs right and
it just allows us now the the true number is a little bit higher than that if you look at the certificate and I have that behind my desk 75 I think it's 75 but with serving tables and things I just
cannot it I cannot have someone fall um and I you know I'm I know you can there's been times we have more um but and you know we have gone to 65 but it for me is just
uncomfortable because I you know it gets tight between the the rows i a b table I for something to get through yeah what's so oh so one of the things that you look like was the light went on I think with Jane and Nancy were talking
because we're struggling with well you know how many in the dance class realiz we have a gym now you know things like that can happen in the gym we don't have to be squeezing them into with thousand s feet we have a gym I just and my thing is I just want
to make sure we have at least outside the gym I want to make sure we have one room not necessarily the great room but another room where we can fit 30 30 is again a good number especially for an
instructor I you know just in case the gym is being used for something I just want to have you know hey we can go in here if you schedule it well yes you go I was actually even thinking a wall between the flex room
and the program room next to it if that were a movable wall that would give you the option of anything you wanted and you have 2,000 square feet so it could be 2,000 it could be a th and a th it could be a th and two 500s you know we have a lot of flexibility but but what
you what you see on the schematic now it the building can't get any bigger than it is so so say we wanted we said we think the great room should be another X number of square feet uhuh not it's not
g to happen um the perimeter of the building is what it is so um so I would encourage people anybody who wants to see that spreadsheet to see what we
added just actually a whole bunch of other things we added just they said yes the um it it we we subit it's not anywhere right now like you would you where can we find it you can ask me
would you like me to send it to you can you share with all of us no no actually there's nothing that says we can we could bring that I mean a public document yes what do you mean can I share it I can send it out individually
to people all look at it at one time could it be like spread out on the table and all of us have comments after we look at it um I it coulde yeah it could be we we'll think
about that we really need to be careful where we go with this discussion because we can move some things around but we can't move a lot of things around and the price it was very important that the
price price came in at 279 so we can't be adding you know additional awnings or not at the stage any not not at this stage so we I think
the structure is very important and the size as you say and and we have to do all of that construction work that would be very difficult to change and undo later so that has to be a definite but we can move some things inside maybe in
the future maybe we could have portable walls to open and close office area or wherever we might think we need a bigger area yeah we would have to I mean we we could do that
um would people be interested in that and just vote after the vote after the vote after the vote at a town meeting May 13 after May 13 the official Town yeah but that's what because right now The Architects are kind of on Paw I mean
they got the rough schematic to stick to the 279 and right now it's okay let's see if we're really doing this and then we'll get into all the details so that makes sense after the vote but thinking about it ahead of time is not a bad thing tot they also had a bilard drum
remember that was being Bard drum yeah and then also I did ask Wilmington how much they how much it cost yeah 18 is that what um I heard 18 million so the person that answered me Tom Donahue he said the original contract was for
16.85% so yeah but that's but there's so much parking it's wide out open it's got the B outside it's yeah I mean everything's gonna have issues yeah but anybody who hasn't seen it should go take a walk
over there or there was no tax increase for this no AR money and they money in they fundraisers and my understanding they proposed this many years back
knowing it was coming yeah and that one woman who was really Champion that presentation the case was devoted to her have you seen it yeter yeah no I've
heard a lot about it though yeah every day so far I think if we all work together this design is going to be yeah for and I'm going to say one more thing and then we'll move on to the well can I
ask a question before we move on sure sure um this property is right up against the wetlands like within 10 feet of it and conservation still hasn't given its okay do we know when they're going to meet on that well I think they
have John as of last Friday they hadn't really yeah I mean they they adjusted the courts they've adjusted the walking trail we'll we'll we can put that on the
people that are on the work groups will'll we ask about that so so the answer you don't know when no John where did you hear that the conservation hadn't approved it yet uh Walter tab Talbert is a member of the
Conservation Commission and he was saying that on Friday very interesting that's why the walkway got added because conservation wanted the walkway and so it got added I thought that was the only issue but maybe not well we'll we'll ask um but
the last thing that I want to say about this is that the three of us being on the work group committees one of the things that we had really fought for is we want a
space that is a senior center we don't want a space that's a wck room or it's a YMCA or it's a boys and girls club that's what actually someone said at the fcom meeting oh you're describing a boys
and girls club and we we we need a space that is going to grow the senior center concept and and it's not a Rec Center it is a senior center
so that's a that's the last thing I I want to say about that we've tried really hard to do that we still are and if anybody agrees with that statement again put that in put that in on your um
your your website the letter you know I don't know how many I don't know how many uh um things are coming in because the town doesn't seem to be sharing that information right now but
um we need to flood it yeah that Senior Center is lost when we call it a recap so wouldn't it be nice Senior Center and we've gotten them to the point that they do actually talk about a senior Hub but they've condensed it they talk about the lounge and the cafe as the senior
Hub and that's no that's a p something I might mention because Mark doxer was drawing attention to it select board said they've now posted a video of sandwich and I watched the video and sandwich is referred to by the architect
all the time is this wonderful AB concept that they did I me I'm sure it is a wonderful building and obviously sandwich agreed to it but on the video they even talk about it as two buildings they don't ever say the senior center and the rec center but many times they talk about the two buildings and the
video is almost entirely about how nice they're intergenerational programs are and well they are nice and we've got them now and they're great this this isn't going to invent into generation they they dodged the whole thing in my opinion I want to go see sandwich but and it was described to us earlier with
diagrams as having a quar that connected the two so that they can be wide open or they can be shut off I I think we need to take a hard look at that because we were told we could have the AB Model and we haven't even got a lowercase a right now frankly well we're
moving that direction we need to be able to come where the three of us are loud mode it's on the town website now okay you have to go you have to find the FAQ page I think and then it's in there
question but if you go into one specific photo it's to the right I believe up there sandwich seal Town seal and you click on that you'll get multiple rooms versus just that
video so what does that mean you'll see more rooms that they've designed whereas you when you click on the actual YouTube site yeah you see only a few rooms yeah almost done you see some pretty and they're not identified as what they are
but when you click on one particular photo you see multiple so you just need to play around with yeah you know how to but listen for they many times it's in the middle of a sentence it's not the focus but they'll say oh in
the two buildings and I'm like two buildings so let's um move on to thank you all three of you for all that you're doing oh really appreciate pleasure thank
you and I will send that Excel spreadsheet out um we um um actually it was well I don't know who it was but anyways at one point in time
remember two years ago we did the postcard mailing to everybody in town and it's kind you know it's a good it's a good way to not be very um blatant about vote for
a new Senior Center but um but um you know it gets people thinking of the Pleasant Street Center and we're going to move if we do it again yeah so I had originally thought the postcard idea but
um Marilyn actually had another idea well the reason we did this was it was the pandemic what always used to happen as Elder Services I think twice a year sent a copy of pleasantries to either all households with the senior might have been all households I don't know
which and the the pleasantries are free but this Council used to fund the postage for it and Elder Services coordinate a big volunteer effort to get them assembled and out it went when the pandemic came it wasn't safe to have everybody sitting in a room putting
labels on things so we came up with this idea because we wanted them to know have something that was Outreach that was written that would be contact stuff so after lots of discussion we settled on this postcard but we're out of the
pandemic and personally I like the Pleasant's idea but and given that it's got an established history it shouldn't be controversial at all it's just business as usual whereas I'm sure I expect if we go through a postc we're gonna have a lot of scrutiny and just
it's just time that's up and this this is not free so the the pantries is not free either ah they Chang well we're free up and this is what I thought and I confirmed this afternoon I just didn't want to miss speak
with so the advertising they have makes the first thousand copies free okay um they can print off uh job qual quantity they could do
5,000 but it's going to cost us just over $228 um for about 5,000 we wanted that so they can they can do it um but it's going to cost $2200 that does not include
postage stuff right as well so um and LS so seea used to pay for the postage and I'm guessing the labels see your hands up um and it it was a sub it was probably the biggest expenditure so I did each single expenditure I mean this
is with postage I mean I assume what's postage 60 cents 6 even when it's the bulk stuff yeah so I mean this is gonna cost five I mean five six I think it might have used
to cost us that much yeah yeah if we go with the postcards I did some pricing too um welcomed me with warm arms oh you're back I see your hand up one second not ignoring you I like I like both of these
ideas that you're tosing out if you went with the pleasantries could we put an insert in uh in the pleasantries and outline some information about the present Center why and why we need a new
center we've done that before that's kind of probably not borderline no yeah borderline yeah but at least the town would let us put it in a mailing like I got my water bill today with the um how we're getting
our trash barrels and the town calendar is there something that we could kind of P you back we tried that tried this and um for whatever reason something else one out over our poast guard was
conservation yeah but um but it just came out we're looking at this little window between now and may yeah yeah so we're thinking get it out in April I I think that's a lot of money to be honest I
rather see hand outs or something that fly a I think it's in addition but I can show the numbers be from the trust funds but still it's money that well lwn signs can't come from the
this could um I could share the numbers on this too um I was thinking just sending this to the age 60 plus and it's Which is less than we did before we did the entire town when we did this before um and when we did the entire town a few
years ago it was around 5500 between the printing and the postage together um if we did this and only did I was guesstimating around 6,000 households with an elderly person minute I mean I made the number I know there's 7600 in
total but some of them have to be couples so it's just doing again and we could even remove the ones that are already getting it electronically if we want it I mean 6,000 is the number I threw out for 60 plus that kind of the numbers it would cost
approximately 3400 to do one just like this only updated information obviously to just the 60 plus population oh so and then probably another 1,200 or so for the whole down no it's I think it has to go to all everyone in town every all the
people who vot that includes post I guess I'm just gonna jump in too because Ros keeps doing that Do It Go ahe um and what Rosemary started to say I think is absolutely correct though um it's not the 60 plus people we need to
get to to to to uh change anybody's mind or get anybody in favor of this it's the other people and they make up a majority of the town but but you got to remember this is not this has nothing to do with recal right this is just programs some
this is just programs of what we currently are doing at Pleasant Street Center and contact information contact and to let people know that the services exist that's all it is and personally I
think once e even if we did it just once a year I think reaching out to the whole town is a good thing some people will read it some people won't but a lot of people will see it and they'll go
oh Pleasant Street Senior Center oh I get it now and they might even come look but I I am I I if if we take a vote I'm voting in favor of something either the
postcard or the pleasantries suggestion if we go with it is something that fre go is over because that's GNA get tossed with every other fire that's coming into house one other warning I got from
printer was she said stay clear you know because I said well what's the timeline and it was sort of four to six weeks but she said this is assuming we're not getting into you know the the super pitch they're going to get with a million things they've got a print for all the candidates that are running so
we're competing for printer time in this little pole as well and people are also getting bombarded with mailing so rosary and John saw the hand up go ahead John the um there's a bulletin that comes out either with the your your electric bill
or your water bill I can't remember which is there any chance of getting something put in there that's what jean PR just said John okay I hear that um and we I mean we'd have to look into it
to see I don't know when the next quarter is we want to really you want to get it out before May 13 um if there's an election on May 14 they're kind of a separate entity my thought my thought is you're saying 60
plus but if we went town why there are a lot of people in town that do not know what the center offers that they have family members and by letting them know what the senior center office or the
elders have available to them then they could see well yes this is what we need going forward as a new with a nurse Etc see but this doesn't say that and that's one of my concerns this says we have a nurse we have a site
we have great program but there are a lot of people that do not know that the town even offers these but this is telling them that and my one of my concern say got all this go to all give it to all residents my concern is that some people are going to say why do we
need a new one look at the wealth of what we have right exactly doesn't do the I mean should we just should we take votes on I mean since it's it says vote on approval can we take votes on pleasantries or card and can we take
vote on 60 plus or wh toown we haven't had motions on any of them this wasn't actually put out as a motion to my knowledge you know what though I you know fire me but um we used
not we we used to have MO itions and vote on it in the same meeting I'm I think in this case we should because time is of the essence we don't have a lot of time here and we can't
wait until April to get this done so I kind of like um Chris's idea we vote for either post somebody make a motion yeah and I'm thinking it
postcard or Pleasant pleasantries and it's either to everybody or to just the 60 plus and the understanding is that all these things I'll move in then we discuss all right
oh I have no there were too many cards to that so we have to come on so I'm just gonna say it go ahead move to approve um the pleasantries mailing going out to all the residents of the
community and paid for out of trust fund money second well pleasantries discussion number of issues um all we used to pay for pleasantries going out and it wasn't small was it was a big
ticket item so this is a new rle it used to be free um we never because I know I used to look at the what we spent and I'm like where did we pay for the Plus and Kevin came back and said we didn't it was free so this
is a big change of a couple 5,000 2,000 5,000 if you're gonna do the whole town it would be 5,000 yeah people can make amendments to my motion but I just I'm just trying to understand what so we're clear on what we're what the nuances are of these
things and you're just sending the newsletter that's it yeah they folded it in half they put those little stickies on the edge slapped the resident of and oh they went um and either way we're just talking about something this is the way things are today it's not in any way shape or
form making the case that there even is an election coming or but it might be in that pleasantry so okay so we actually have he can we um any more discussion
yes yes yes can we add a line that says these are the activities that we have now that need need more room in the future no rary no but we but we could make sure
that the QR code for our movie is in there no well anyways it's on the recal website so we could have that's different we can put things on the recil website yeah so anyways I people aren't
going to do that it has to be in their face people aren't going to do that they're not going to get open the pleasantries and say oh let me go to recal and see what's going on they're not can't you can't do that so this is re this recal has nothing to do with
this discussion yeah it has nothing to do so let's stop talking about recal and all we're talking about is pleasantries going out to all households
for $5,000 y discussion discussion okay the Pleasant Street can have two to three pages am I correct oh it's good back to B we have 13 Pages total okay is it possible to do just
something very simple say an 8 by10 back to back this is what but on a larger size and trifold it and out it goes in what form and in other words like a other words trifold it but what's the
difference between that and pleasantries because Pleasant trees has more information on it this is more specific for what the site has to offer so you're trying to you're trying to do a hybrid between the card and the
pleasantries so what you're saying is one page words cheaper would that cheap words something like um John you do it as pleasantries can you have the people who advertise in pleasantries contribute
to paying for this that's how it used to pay well cover that's how they're still paying for it is now though well they don't have enough in this short amount of time they don't have enough people paying for advertisements to cover the entire cost now they and our contract is
only a thousand pleasantries um and they're breaking even right now just on that thousand that's why we have to pay if it's more than a thousand we have to pay so whether it's a full pleasantries I'm sure one sheet just one page is all
right John John Parson it's my opinion that if this goes out to everybody in town uh two-thirds of the town is just going to throw it in the waste basket they're not going to read it and it's just going to be a waste of money
okay yeah rosem Marie do you are we still are we voting the pleasantries or a postcard at this point right now um Karen's motion is on the floor and it's pleasantries and it's going out to
townwide that's what's on the floor okay I'm not voting for that she's what she's not okay yeah I just threw it out there is a discussion any any um further discussion just gonna throw one more piece of information out
which is that and I don't know the answer to this when we did the postcard we were told we could not use the annual sensus file but Laura will share if you ask for it and instead Heaven had to purchase a list from the state
oh I I have I have the 24 censes but we're told we couldn't use it no no we we didn't have it back then yes we did no didn't yes they did but anyways we're going to take a vote but there's money
involved that I don't know the amount the whole town or just the 60 plus this one the whole town each house not each individual so what is the comparable what is the comparable cost to mailing the pleasantries to the whole
town or or a good siiz postcard that's what I'm trying to answer so I have a question yeah so you just said about so how do we get the mail how do we get the addresses of all the town Kevin got it from a state thing he had to wait for a town organization cannot yeah they
access I I don't know I was to they could not the census was I I was told we I don't know but it had a cost if it's the case that we have to for some might be the format robing okay answer this would just be so
let's vote on this motion we're voting on the motion to send the pleasantries send pleasantries to all the homes in the town and and
using trust fund money to pay for the and this be ,000 but we still got two hands up from discussion no they up they Haven I'm just leaving it up it's it's the only way I get it can get in word in a
dra next time you're G to have to come John all right do you have one last thing to say John no no I don't okay all right so we're gonna take a vote how many are in favor of the motion as it's
written no you got go you gotta go yeah and you got could you state the motion clearly so we know what we're voting on so I I made a motion to um to send the pleasantries out to every
town every um resident every household in the town and use the trust fund money because we understand it will be about $5,000 but to include that's just it you can vote it down yeah that the motion all right so
Rosemarie no um welcome Joan go I don't know I still want to be here or [Laughter] not what do you think yay or nay
yes okay and John yay or nay nay whoops I did this okay and Karen
no and Nancy yes and Marilyn I still think it's a yes and Jean pra no and Karen panette yes all
right oh but he can't vot Ros vote it's TI four to four what is your thought on the value of it Chris yeah the value of it just John was saying that it's all going in
the waist fet why waste M you know I I I think our Focus this is hard I think I think it's a good thing I think our Focus needs to be recal but that's also
complicated um I don't know uh the one thing I was just thinking about is the postage price to everyone in town is going to be a lot more than just seeing not it's household so it's not the 24,000
yeah I I like the idea I just don't think the timing's I think I think I would hold off because I think the focus needs to be um recal and voting but that that makes it
a little bit more complicated because I know where hands are tied so I um one nice just to get everybody get one of the plus entries what what does worry me though uh the one thing that does worry me is our numbers are much higher than
they used to be and I I worry about you know if we send this out to the town which is good are we going to get an overwhelming response and what what is that going to do to my staff I I I don't want
to that worries me it may not be an issue uh might not but I I don't you know if numbers were half the size and you know everything you know I I I worry about is Linda going to start feeling
she already Fields a thousand calls a month is this going to increase it is it gonna drive her crazy so I have some worries about that's these are my biggest worries but but but I just point out it's going to
be easier get on my active Center what's that it's going to be easier for Linda the more people start getting on my active Center yeah but what I'm saying is these people have to call and sign up
first to get on to fails you you can just do it ons so let's do so that fail so we need another motion so we need another motion Ian motion that we send the pleasantries
out to only the 60 plus using um trust fund money I second that one okay any discussion it's not going to reach the vote you have to reach all the voters
not just the 60 plus separate from Rec not recal not voting Rosemary this is just getting what we're doing out there in the PO public okay Jean I think personally what we send out
is informational similar to what is on your motion by the way so we're motion oh go ahead did you second it yeah and we're discussing this motion oh okay go ahead I think like
Chris said okay lot of these programs are already at Capac right now so if you have more people come in just be more of a headache for Chris more waiting lists and there'll be more unhappy people they didn't get into the programs here's the problem at this point if we don't know
what the potential is then we don't we don't we can't plan for it and as it is in the new center it's going to be the same number of staff and what we've said
is that the new sta that that the existing staff is going to be handling more people in that it can be done so um the only thing that those people aren't
going to be able to probably do is participate and um well it it's true to a certain extent but you know if this passes um you know and we're in the new building you know what there'll be more
space to you know what there's going to be more seats at the front desk with Linda where we can get more volunteers um where we can have yeah there's a chance we'll have the same staff um we're assessing that now so we
can't make assumptions on what the Staffing is going to right now but with when is that g to be done U I'm not sure I can check um but just the space alone though you gota think there's enough for three seats at that front desk so you know what we can line up
volunteers and they can answer phone calls they can check people in so regardless of Staff we're going to be able to handle this better in a new facility than we where now it's really only Lind that can sit at the front desk
or you know so you know I just there was because I got used to me because we discussed this thing 7,000 times before finally got agreed on winter press but nevertheless staff got caught unawares somehow maybe they figured we'd never
agree I don't know but it happened and there's not a word on there that wasn't in pleasantry so it wasn't language but they got there was a bump in phone calls there's no question there was going to be um but I don't think it lasted terribly long but it if I mean it achieved its purpose there were people
that said oh wow and they called and you've got increased participation true can I can I chime in on this too yeah um I understand Chris's concerns about the staff and about overloading but to me
this this discussion is somewhat laughable Marilyn can attest to the fact as as I can that for 10 years we've been talking about how do we get more people down here how do we get more people down here now we're talking about how do we keep people out of here because I got people down
here and we're not happy all right I am going to uh End discussion this is still the pleasant talking and this is Karen Pet's motion can you say it again to send the
pleasantries out to 60 plus households in reading and using money from the trust funds which trust fund yes John
BB okay rose rose Marie yay or n no Joan I like to tell wi better so no okay um John Parsons
yes uh Karen Janowski yes Nancy no um Marilyn yes and oh Jean no yes another all right so I have a
motion you can't you're not allow to you're I have okay I have a motion that we do a trifold one page with all details explaining what the Pleasant
Street Center has to office similar to this Cad and send it townwide because that would be less cost than a and bulk for mailing and printing but we don't have any costing on well be less taking
out of the trust fund for expense okay so so a trust funding expense townwide a tri who is going to oh I'll second it who is going to wait I have a question so discuss we're in the
discussion wait I I want too who will design it and um who will handle the mail it well we how are we going to who's going to handle it the pleasantries well it's a printer could
we use that same printer a company so that's the expectation I can I can I can ask okay I don't I don't have an answer all right let's vote Rosary well can I ask a question
sure all right the trifold I like that idea and we're going to put information on on it about the center and and the classes we offer U we can we add in there the classes are like full capacity and this
no judgment no judgment what is what is the purpose of any mealing like Chris says you it's gonna generate people will say Oh yay I want to go play maong there oh yeah we kind of started this whole
conversation with the reason for doing this so let's keep just doing motions until we until they shut Right There Goes My Hope of getting I
know you don't have to stay Chris I knew it wasn't gonna be I love you guys I assume we're still in the discussion sending this in the past and we're not really
talking about changing anything from past we're just talking about putting some life into it again is to increase people's awareness it's Outreach period so the trifold would take information from just a different format of format
what's available and it would be used I just went where words is it that information you can take this information whoever is going to design it well the question that's the question let's and which has to be approved my point on on this discussion is I think
the same thing if it goes out to everybody it's G to get tossed in the barrel just like the others and I don't think we should be voting on it unless we know exactly what the design is what it says what it looks like it's like voting on a on a blank
piece of paper okay I'm gonna make a motion but a motion can ask finish this one first more discussion no okay you could withdraw it okay I'll
withdraw it all right because we don't have the we don't have the time to do that's why Pleasant worked because it's already right it's just telling the printer you're gonna have to add
something you're have figure this out okay Marilyn Marilyn if it has no no bearing on recal there's no pressure to have it be done right away well well we put that in the discussion put that in
the discussion so we're ready for your motion yes I'm making a motion to do the postcard as an update of this same format same basic the names all change a little bit of
but same thing pure Outreach um and we send it to just the 60 plus was it same B to whole to whole house all households and we would take have you done a cost comparison for the three different versions you're putting out
there we had no the other two already dead see I think that's this is the other thing we have we discuss it and then we vote at the next meeting because then we have information we don't have any idea went to the printer today this okay but the mailing and all of that townwide
mailing and how we access assuming we have a list that's viable and Nancy and I disagree there was census data back there um but and I don't know why Kevin Went to the state I don't know I asked see I'm not sure we can keep it open ended about we need a fix we need a
final number for the class I I have a I have a make a motion excuse me are we getting I'm making a motion I'm I'm amending my half-spoken motion no one second I'm making a motion you're really
good at this thank you like a lawyer I'm making a motion to do a postcard update have the same basic information this was done five years ago so there's updates but it's an Outreach postcard period um same basic purpose
and distribution as this it will go to all households and we will have a special meeting at the end of March to additionally approve the exact dollar amount required so let me just say we TR
okay discussion we don't need a motion for that because we're not approving it until we have fin the final until we have the money yeah but but decide that no you have to decide if you want a special meeting and when that is
and then you need to vote then you vote then we vote we don't need a motion without unless we're approving that final figure from the trust fund I mean we haven't spent any trust fund Mone
not okay can can I just Air One More Time my concern with the postcard that I would not have if we did pleasantry because P trees has a context of its own and read it or not but it lots of T to but with this with all of the what's going on with this coming out in the
midst of discussion of election they're going to think this has something to do with the new Senior Center and they're gonna say a lot of people I don't get it we do it all this is great wonderful call the Pleasant Street Center um I I just am really a little concerned
without our ability to say this is where things are now but could be so more or something like that you know I that's my concern with this particular format in that time frame so I throw it up there it could backfire and bite
us I just think it points to the fact that once a year we should send out a mailing from Council and aging that it can be in one of those inserts and let's you know s that up asit something that we do every year and we work with elder services and propose it going at another
time versus time frame I think that's great I mean I I totally agree like I think it's a great way to do Outreach I think it's especially if this passes vote but but I I don't agree with with that people will get it and say why do we
need a new Senior Center and um yeah sure there's going to be some people but there's people out there that don't even know this exists and this might um give some questions
John do you have your hand up again if a vote Yes on recal committee happens can they we have there's no money for it so this is one way to get
the word out so can I suggest something yeah I personally prefer the trifold um why don't we have a special meeting once we know what those figures are and we can vote on the two possibilities okay that sounds good how about the
24th Monday night it's a Monday night the 25th it's all right it could be it just be a zoom meeting too it could be okay um it won't be do it like at 5 or 5:30
do it earlier go to line dancing another L they're missing two dancers tonight I know the 25th is a public in the early late afternoon the4 is good it doesn't have I
can be flexible I don't know oh yeah I'm much toward school hours yeah so early afternoon would work for me I can make it 24th yeah 24th no matter what time is it okay all right discussion no we're not voting on
anything oh we're not voting on anything okay uh it gets a little confusing sometimes two or three of you are talking at the same time we're AAL a special meeting
John 4:30 special meeting for 4:30 on the 24th March 24th what's the purpose of the meeting to vote once we John once we have additional information the final cost on the trifold or the um postcard
then we can vote on either one are we going to have a somewhat of a sample of what either the postcard or the trifold is going to look like the postcard yes I'd make I'd like to make an amendment that if we have the special
meeting we should get a view of both the trifold and the um uh post all right I'll it well who who from the town do somebody from the town help design NC and I did this I could help if you
want to share Nancy I'll help with sign all right so we'll have on the 24th a sample of the postcard and the trifold with Associated costs with all the cost all the costs yeah thank you and I'll get to the bottom of what this state
list was about Kevin would never give me straight answer so I didn't know okay all right great so do we have to make a motion for the meeting have you have to vote on the amendment first remove motion I didn't I didn't it
was my my amendment I didn't remove it we need to no there was no motion John she didn't finish the motion so there's so there's no meeting no there is a meeting the chair is calling a meeting
in two weeks okay so there's no motion for that it's just the chair's calling a meeting and what's the purpose of the meeting an Outreach mailing yeah making a decision
about an Outreach mailing once we know what the associated costs are between a trifold and a postcard yeah correct and so pleasantries is off the table for now we I'm just making sure we're all
clear last agenda item oh um I wanted to make an official announcement that I am resigning I'm stepping
down as chair of the um COA COA thank you and um and that means we have to find a replacement um and
um um I I think we can do that right here and now ask for nominations yes so we need nominations for a replacement chair for
me I nominate Karen chinski a second if she's whitling I am okay anybody else ninowski J
sorry has been nominated oh okay new chair we have to second CL nominations is there is so there's any more nominations you can nominate yourself okay it's closed so we're are
going to vote in a new chair for some reason I think Chris has to call this what I think it used to be that whoever oh you you just stepped down so there's no chair CH I need to run call call thank
you you're out of a job lady stop doing so call a vote um Marilyn yes yeah I can do that would be the vice chair what Vice chair huh oh that's
right John go for it all right so I'm calling for the vote um Rosemarie yes Joan yes Karen uh P yes Karen J yes uh JP
yes Marilyn yes Nancy yes and yes unanimous thank you for your service and luck with coun little I'm sorry we here this morning so seeing that there's nothing
else on the agenda and we have um a special meeting in two weeks John seems motion to adjourn second sorry Karen you can't take John's job so roll call vote
John yes Rosary yes Joan yes yes yes Jean yes marn yes 19 thank you all thank you wow that
was an interesting meeting yes L happened for