e e e e e okay we have a quum we right thank you all right we have public comment um you don't have to but we like you to sign in if you want to speak or attend the
meeting select board Lees on manager reports uh close the warrant for the May 1 Special town meeting uh vote to call special election for May 13th update on bur bank and other funds from Sharon a vote of support for the two projects Kum and
recal um Commissioner of trust funds update that's our packet uh discuss possible creation of disabilities council is something pack about that discuss Renewable Energy Trust membership agreement future agenda and
meeting minutes so tonight if if this doesn't look familiar we're in the library tonight they're working on the sound system in the selectboard room so we have a a pretty good agenda tonight so if anyone like to speak uh so few housekeeping uh next week is the
election you didn't know early voting started uh until Thursday and um if anyone's going to speak please go campaigning for yourself or anyone else and tonight is Mark oa's last
public select board meeting on this side of the AIS so after Theon reports we're going to have a little uh you know to do with some cupcakes and uh no champagne I see but cupc public building so you know
thank Mark for all the service Mark's going to make a few remarks and that is not on the agenda but that's what we're going to do so first if anyone would like to speak on public comment come up to this Podium
over here anyone other comment thank you um thanks for giving us the public the opportunity to speak and make a few comments about Mark docker's service to our town um I think he has done it
perfectly I I think that he is uh a role model for middle-aged people like myself as well as my teenage daughter for how to behave publicly um and because I don't
really have the words to say it nicely I grabbed a few quotes from people who are better speakers or have speech writers they're about service leadership um Abraham Lincoln said near all men can
stand adversity but if you want to test a man's character give him power and I think Mark has endured adversity on this board it his character yet he never exerted power only more character to
maintain the strength in his character Colin Powell said that leadership is all about people it's not about organizations and it's not about plans it's not about strategies it is all about people motivating people to get the job job done and Mark motivates
people he has a delicate subtle adult way of talking about his ideas without making anyone else feel smaller I I really appreciate that
um and Teddy Roosevelt said when you're asking if you can do a job just tell them certainly I can and then get busy and find out how to do it because I believe nobody is for knowing how to be a reading select board member but Mark
never said no he learned he prepared by serving for years on many organizations other capacities he continued to learn while he was on the board and um I don't I don't think he's done I think he'll keep contributing and learning I don't think he's he's young man I don't think
he'll ever be done learning um and he's he says yes he says yes I can yes I will try and Elanor Roosevelt said do what you feel in your heart to be right for you will be victimized anyway criticized anyway we
all are we all are we but we are trying to do our best I think Mark has always tried to do his best I'm very grateful I know so many people are truly grateful Mark um I could talk about individual moments
maybe of your tenure as a select board member but I think it's an overall sense of you are truly a leader you are inspiring you are kind you're always kind I just I think you've done it terrifically thank
you any else um Angela vinda Precinct 5 um I I don't have any quote so um because we're all very good and very fit but I just want to thank Mark for all of his service um for your generous uh the time
I think you put in a full nine years on fincom so that's great and it's great to have that experience when you come up to the select board because it really you know you you're coming to it with a lot of knowledge and that is what um you
brought to the select board um your knowledge uh calm demeanor um and uh always uh very generous with your time I know that I've called you up numerous times before Town
meetings saying okay can you please explain to me what this part of the budget means again and can you please explain this to me because I after all these years I I'm not a finance person and it still is
difficult but you are always very generous and to just go over it again and talk and you've always um been very generous with your time and I do appreciate you know your your
thoughtfulness the way that you uh put forward your ideas without putting down anyone else's ideas and just sort of put it out there for people to um think about and um try to come up with the
best solution even if it wasn't always you know the direction you might wanted to go in you you took that too because it's a board of five and you know that's just the way it is sometimes so thank you very much for your service anyone else in the
room uh Jackie is Right Jackie is Jackie Jackie anyone on Zoom please hands on Zoom all right we will go to liazon reports sorry Jeff my hand Jeffrey Corin Ridge Road I want to
just Echo th those that spoke ahead of me and thank you for your service it was a pleasure to to serve with you on the arpa committee and and thank you for all of your other service in in the FI on the finance committee on the select board and your your reasoned approaches and your your very thoughtful comments and deliberations and all of those
bodies thank you all right so Le on points Cameron sure so um in the last couple of weeks um the two highlights for me were attending the um evening session of the recal project and overview was very well
attended um appreciate staff and Sharon's not here tonight coming and talking and answering uh community members questions um I was pleased to learn that in borrowing rates for municipalities have come down we've been using a 4% figure and and what we're
hearing now is that for both of these two important projects we should be in the threes believe um 15 year was 3.25 and 20 year is 35 and 25 year went up another quar per. so that's good every little bit helps and I wanted to remind everyone that just like a homeowner if
rates continue to drop we have the opportunity to refinance these bonds which is always going to be something that saves the community money so that was a well done presentation and um uh this past Friday I attended the um I
served as a panelist uh for a conference for the Massachusetts women elected Municipal officials um it's always a pleasure to network with other um elected Town Council women Selectmen and
town administrators there we hosted Katherine Clark as our keynote speaker and um you know she was happy to come in she's been flying all over the country and just talk to us about now what it's like to be the highest ranking women
elected official in the federal government which is um took a few people of back one of the things I learned about during our networking sessions is that um you'll see Local transportation um in other communities like the marac
Valley Regional Transportation and so I was networking with the um mayor of asbery and she and I said Gee we don't have that support in reading and we really need it we're building a new um senior center community center and she said oh sure you do everybody's
everybody's in part of these Regional Transportation um group so she looks us up and and our regional transportation group is the mvta so you know so anyway that you know what that's just another thing we could talk to them about they they are our
local Regional trans ation entity and and and and now that we have these wonderful conversations underway with them about their plans for reading and and our needs we can add that to the list how are you going to improve Local transportation so that just like Beverly and just like Newberry Port and just
like asbery we can get our residents around and especially our seniors who may not want to be driving how can how can we best support them and get support from the state as well because right now we're fully self-funded so that's it thank you
uh Chris thanks Carlo um not much going on uh other than a school committee meeting recently uh for me um but other than that um just an update on
the uh potential $1 million MW buy and I don't know if Matt was bringing this up but our state delegation brought up um uh Brad Jones um Rich Hagerty and Jason Lewis a letter to the MW fully
supporting our uh our potential at getting up to the $1 million back um so it's good to see that um more of that is is continuing and it's not just falling by the wayside that they're still proceeding uh supporting us and
hopefully we'll see what happens with that in the future um and other than that it is my uh oldest daughter's 13th birthday today so happy birthday to her so Mark will always remember your last day was Autumn's birthday when you turned a
teenager I'm sure you'll love knowing that in the future so thanks Melissa Mr chairman I'm getting a report that nobody on Zoom can hear you everybody needs to make sure their mics in front of them are on green press
the button for the that is for the yeah the ones here are picking up this picks up the zoom this the smaller ones pick up rctv which one zo in the front yeah this one is zoom the one closer to you with
zo okay yep we need labels okay all right thank you now they Jack um I listened into the um budget meeting back uh midm March and one thing that was brought up that I think that we as a board should put on our agenda at some
point to discuss was that the um Town facilities department is um they ask for $200,000 to bring in a consultant to do a building assessment um for schools and town buildings and I really think that should somehow wrap into our Capital
planning um I don't know why we wouldn't want to um include that with our plan to do our Capital plan just so we're not spending twice that was one thing and then um school committee meeting the other night I was not able to make it in person so I just wanted to take a moment
to thank Chuck Robinson for his years of volunteer service with the town on the school committee in fincom um during that meeting they also announced that um the msba is now they increased their reimbursement for the
kilum program uh I'm sorry kilum school um for additional $1.5 million so they are paying I think 52.9% of eligible costs the msba will cover now um at that meeting they also discussed school choice and they are
going to continue with that program um I also wanted to take a minute to thank Mark for all of his service for here in town um I didn't get to when you announced last time at the last meeting I had already spoken so I didn't get a chance to say anything but you know I just your service on the select board fincom and all the other boards and
committies you know everyone in this town really appreciates all the hard work that you've put in I know that you are not going anywhere and we will just see you on the other side um but thank you and I know everyone in this the town has appreciated what you've done for everyone thank you so much
thanks uh I'm going to go next uh typically the chair goes last but I'm going to have let Mark have the last word so uh I have the opportunity to be on the screening committee for the fire chief and um to do the final round of interviews I'll let Matt speak to that
if we're ready or not to say anything um and then uh cpdc last night uh went over their flood plan which they haven't done in a while and um Talk about the election and um yes I want to thank Mark for six
years here five of them that I uh was with him and it was a roller coaster of a ride but uh we got through a lot of it together all five of us at different times so I appreciate his service to the town and his service of the board and it
takes a lot of guts to do what we do so I uh congratulate him thanks so so um I'll do M report first I didn't believe it or I come prepared to speak and I usually do right
into the mic right into the mic having trouble at home so this better yeah yeah I think that will work sorry we'll make that work and guess what in the select Board Room we're going to have better sound soon too which is awesome great um so for leaon
report um so the main activities have focused on the reading Center for active living recal so we had two Community meetings uh one in the evening last week one during the day and as Karen said um well attended lots of good questions lots of people wanting to understand
what this is what it means to them and I think that's great tomorrow night 7:00 at the Performing Arts Center at the high school will be a community meeting that focuses on the two big projects that this community is is taking a look at so both the the the recal project
sorry and the kill school project and um great opportunity to hear presentations ask questions make sure you understand what's happening and why um they're both tremendous Community assets that we're talking about great projects so I
encourage people to come and attend that um one quick thing it was it was brought to my attention at that last meeting uh at that the recil meeting that um when we had our discussion about Capital
planning um that some folks on on staff um felt like um we or or maybe I was sliding them a little bit in terms of the process that they go through with planning and I just want to assure everybody that's absolutely not the case at all I think that the community needs
to have more input into the priorities that we said and we talked about doing that at our meeting in two ways one having a master plan and two having some kind of advisory on Capital planning whether it be the select board whatever the the mechanism is going to be that's
what we discussed and so I just wanted to uh apologize if anybody took offense at that and much more talk about what's the opportunity for the community to have input okay so that's those are those pieces um thank you folks thank you for the the wonderful remarks you're
getting you know lots of tears coming out of my eyes here um I have really enjoyed serving so far in the community and I I intend to to do more of that but from the other side of the table and working on some other things it's time to to kind of make it a change here at
least you know for for now it's really this is a great Community right and that's kind of why we volunteer because we feel that way and we want to make a difference I hope that I've been able to contribute to that in a lot of ways um and that for me has been very fulfilling so I really enjoyed that opportunity so
I thank the residents of the community for for the support with that um I do not plan to go away um I think there are a lot of things that we can still do taking the community forward I encourage the the future board um to to work on those
things um if there were I don't know if there any words of wisdom which is one of my favorite Expressions words of wisdom um it's look we're here to take the town and help it move forward and to figure out what's the best path to do that the path can be bumpy um it can have twists
and turns it can do all sorts of weird things I think this board is the leadership for for the town and kind of setting Direction setting how we want to do things I think that's really really important we aren't going to agree on everything and that's okay and in fact
it's probably good I think that you make better decisions when people have different opinions they bring in and to be able to work through that together is great and I just strongly encourage the the new board to be able to think that way to listen to one another to figure things out to take it forward to do it
all for the for the good of the community we're in a um a turbulent time at the moment um the last several years have shown divisions much more apparently and sometimes they bubble
over and that makes things really hard to work through I have to say um but that's what it's even more important that this board work really well together and not just the board the whole Community you know Lind and I have been in this community for 209
years um and we love it and it's important to us what happens here and we we just doubled down we just did a you know big renovation on our house so we're here um I want to stay very involved I again you know love the community I appreciate folks you coming
out tonight talking about it and I hope that as things move ahead we continue to do the things that are that are right for read um and that we can always kind of look ourselves in the mirror and be comfortable and say yeah that's that's that's good that's right I'm doing it
the right way so thank you very much um usually I'm more prepared with my marks but I think that's probably a good place to leave all right before we take a quick break I'm going to have uh Matt uh do his report and Jane if anything to add and then we'll take a quick recess to uh
celebrate Mark a little bit okay I'll be quick I don't want to stand in the way of that it's a hard act to follow with Mark um I do have a few updates um first of all for the board members in attendance if you can speak right into the microphone that's going to help the people at home on Zoom hear everything
so like Mark was doing and Carlo's doing and I'm doing right now just speak right into the microphone and that will be very helpful um the AV upgrades in the select Board Room at Town Hall are happening right now um they're on schedule we think we should be done by the end of the week um so starting next
week we'll have some meetings there and it's going to be a lot better we have bigger screen TVs um there's going to be a lot of different functionality that we don't have including Amplified sound which we have here tonight but not in town hall um so I appreciate everybody
coming to the library tonight while we work on those upgrades but they're going to be well worth it so um also I think it was mentioned before but tomorrow night we are going to hold the killum recal joint project forum a live event
tomorrow night at the PAC at the high school um that should be a well attended event we're going to talk about uh both projects and the cost and we're going to be there to answer questions both teams both opms all coming together um in advance of town meeting that's something
people wanted and that's something we're doing tomorrow night a week after that on the 16th there'll be a zoom only version of that for people that couldn't come to the pack tomorrow night um on the 16th at 7:00 we'll have a zoom uh portion and we'll also be there live to answer
questions um quickly fincom is going to meet tomorrow night right before that Forum to vote on the special town meeting warrant um the select board is voting on that tonight and fincom didn't want to vote on that before uh the select board did so they're going to meet quickly at 6:30 at The Skatin
library right at the high school and then we'll be running down to the Forum right after that it shouldn't take on um Tuesday April 8th it's not only election day but it's the day that we begin to distribute the new rubbish and recy cycling toter um there's a lot more
information on the website um but also so when people get their toter there'll be door hangers on the toter themselves with a lot of useful information and we're putting a lot on social media as well so that I realize that's a big change for people and we'll be rolling those out beginning next week we're
staging the area now also on let's see there's an Arts and Cultural action plan activation event that'll be next Wednesday or on Wednesday April 9th from 8 from 6:00 to 8 right in this room they encourage RSVP
for that you can find out more information on the town website but we're getting really to the to the crucial part of the Arts and Cultural action plan where we will put things into into action and finalize things so it's important that people come and and make their wishes known and again I
would like to thank Mark for his years of service here in the town when I first started 10 years ago Mark was still very involved I believe he was the chair of fincom um he he and Linda both made me feel very welcome in town inviting me to events and inviting me to their house
and you know Mark's been a staple ever since for me uh in this community and I'd like to thank him for his service I hope we can still to get get together and have coffee once in a while and also I believe him when he said he's still going to still be involved and CU I don't think he he knows anything better
than to to help reading in that way so um thank you again Mark and yes thank you and then Jane if you had uh you stole my thunder with the information on the trash so the trashing recycl cart roll out so I would just like to add my
voice to the rest um and thank Mark for his service congratulate him on a tremendous body of work and I continue I look forward to continuing to work with you as we move forward with a variety of projects thank you thank you thank you all right we're going to take a quick
recess here in the room you guys can watch us on TV if you want or you can take a break yourself what are we do e e e e
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e e e to e f all right we have back in session next on the agenda is where are we vote to close warrant for May 1st 2025 special town
meeting and laa do you need to have a few words or we're good we're good we're good I have a motion you no we do the motion if anyone has any questions for you uh move to move the microphone
closer to me move to close a special town meeting warrant consisting of three articles to take place on May 1st 2025 as for second thank you any discussion seeing none all those in
favor 5 Z thank you thank you laara see right there yes so next we have a um vote to call for a special election on May 13th have a motion please uh move pursuant to GL chapter 59
squiggle thing 21c little K to place two debt exclusion questions as provided on the document entitled May 13 2025 ballot questions presented here today on the ballot for a special election to be held May 13 2025 and notify the town clerk of
such action I think that's it right yeah and then there'll be a second yeah there's a second motion there the second motion okay um so second that one thank you any discussion seeing none all those in
favor 5 Z gu we have a second motion move to hold a move to hold and call a special election from May 13 2025 and sign the special election warrant presented to the board tonight second thank you uh any
discussion seeing none all those in favor 5 Z thank you and we let's assign something and we'll move on to the next agenda and is this going to be oh I see Sharon on the screen so um in our packet
and maybe we'll get it put on the screen for the audience is a um the bur Bank fund and some other funds and then later we will have sorry and then later we will have a the commissioner of trust funds on a separate document Shon take it
away I think that'd be helpful we have it in our packet but it'd be helpful yep yep yes he mhm yes a little bit louder would help but we can hear you okay um
yes okay so um had mentioned to me that you guys would like a little overw of some of the bonds that have money and that could be potential funding sources for other things um so I put together this little spreadsheet to kind of give you an idea of what's currently in some
of these funds what we're planning to use at April town meeting on some of these funds and what would be available after um many of what you're seeing on that slide is capital project funds that um are complete um and and still have a balance I'm not sure about the balance
look like there was still probably some incumbrances out there that haven't fully been paid but they do have 400,000 coming out of that Moran MVP project but I figured I'd show you the balance as of as of the date 325 and what we plan on
using just in case that is the final balance most of the projects the issue is sometimes why some of these projects have Bal sitting there is that we have to be able to transfer to another Capital project with equal or greater um
debt terms and so like for the library renovation you need you need another building project really to put that towards so my Hope was that if these projects pass that we could clean up all these remaining balances and move them to those projects that was our hope um
and so I don't know if this is exactly what you're looking for I hope it is what you were looking for but um do you want me to go over in detail or is there any questions on it I I think we'll just leave it for questions I mean I I I know I have of a couple but I think uh if
anyone can saw Karen first oh thank you Sharon um excellent as usual I'm just wondering generally some of these um balances are having some age on them how long would
they remain outstanding um I see your notes must be used on a project of a similar similar whatever characteristics how long would we leave these out there if we can't thank you similar borrowing if we can't you know fit them into projects what happens well it just sits there
unfortunately and as a percentage of what we borrowed um if it's if it's a lot I'm trying to use that money up wherever we can the West Improvement project there was some significant delays I think there state funding involved in that and there was some problems with the work at some
point so that was out there for a long time and we weren't entirely sure was complete for a while because they stopped work for a period of time but most projects are just kind of small little remainders that we just have to recognize her there and and make a
decision to move them towards something else like Harper roof um that's the gift that just keeps on giv there's in there and I don't know how I think they and I asked Jo I think they were saying that they had a duplicate Po in there and so
if we close that we still have money in there so these nice little places to pull for capital projects but again I have to make sure that where I has equal or greater terms for borrowing and when it comes to the library most projects unless it's the building project it's
not qualified Marcus saw your hand up thanks so um shair just to to understand so conceivably somewhere around $800,000 might be a possible number to to be thinking of rolling based on on U the
big projects just looking at this um after the April town meeting if these approvals for April town meeting yeah it looks like about that but again I'm not entirely sure about mlet and why there's so much money still in there it could be that not all the invoices have cleared
on it um but that's what I'm projecting at this point I've got to get more clarification on that the take the capital project if that's what it looks like okay thanks and I think um Matt if I understand correctly also the way that the warrant articles are written the
sources of funds can be kind of anything so in other words if there were available balances here and the desire was to move these balances that's that's an okay funding mechanism the warrant is p purposely vague um in terms of borrowing or using
any other funds we use it we we use that kind of language so that we we're not you know pigeon hold into one fund or another or borrowing for the entire amount so that's why you know you see that kind of language in the warrant and that's correct you can use sharing could correct me if I'm wrong but you could
use any sort of available funds to to to uh spend not just borrowing I'm amplifying my thumbs up okay okay any other questions this is good I just wanted to mention that for um the idea of moving
these towards you know like the project or the ret project we always wait until we knew the project was approved before we do anything at town meeting because it would be pointless to move a project and then it didn't pass you know so that's why these are still sitting here as we were keeping them hoping to be
able to use them to reduce voling on those projects y thank you um just a a quick question a quick uh let's a review of the general stabilization fund I was a little surprised to see that in there because
the way I've always understood it is and the way other communities use this is this is this is really the Untouchable stuff this is this is the rainy day fund of the rainy day funds and and and I don't disagree that I'm sure it's like completely without restrictions but I
wouldn't want to give people the idea that this is like a bu of money that we're really going to intend to spend and in fact we've had you know we've talked about when free cash starts Rising should we be increasing this General stabilization fund it's a pretty
small percentage of the budget in other communities we talked about Salem um for example have you know maybe for 5% um in the stabilization fund and and correct me if I'm wrong I believe you've said in the past that that's one of the things
that our bond um councils will look to you know to make sure that we are setting aside kind of that those those funds that really aren't meant to be touched I just want to be clear about that this isn't really a a pool that we would draw from we could draw from it I tend to agree with
you I feel like the stabilization fund is kind the last type of fund but it can be used with a a two3 vote and has been discussion with bcon at some point if Ming you know our 7% make sure there 7%
the balance that's in there is the money that was there put in from the override before last so it was to build some stabilization funds for us and we haven't used it at all um so I would generally say this is that Untouchable piece that we tend not to use and that
we entertain the idea of potentially moving whatever we need to have our 7% just sitting there but when it comes toting agencies they look at all your reserves so they're looking at a general stabilization fund as well as your um free to say these are all your reserves
you know they're looking at both of them combined it doesn't matter to them how they're broken out but making it harder to to spend down with two3 v is the reason the stabilization fund is usually used just to kind of say this is our Baseline These funds shouldn't be used
but it is available and can be used and so when I was asked what available funds are out there I felt like it should be known that there is funds out there as stabilization that free cash isn't the only thing that's out there for available funds thank you I guess for
me you know other than the general stabilization fund that you know I'm always aware of and I I was going to ask a question about Parker but you answered it I think it'd be a good exercise for us to you know look at this at least
twice a year and and see what projects are fully done so we can allocate and recommend as a board and and I'm not sure what needs town meeting approval or not or if it's just us and you or just you but you know we got some big dollar
amounts in here that are well needed so I think we should have it as a standing agenda item um at least you know maybe January and then again in June or July uh something like that just so we keep up to dat or
you can just tell us hey this project is done or let Matt know and you have 30,000 40,000 100,000 that that you can put towards something else so I think we have to do a better job um not that you're not but just for us to know
what's in these funds and what we can do what we have access to um I know right now like you said well it's somethings you're not sure of progress seems clear clear West Street seems pretty much done um you know Ice Arena funds are always
you know adding to those funds so anyway I think this was a good exercise and then the the next one at least once a year I don't think we've done the commissioner of trust since I've been on the board um for five years so I think we do that once a year as well any other question provide an
update anytime we want as part of our border update um and I agree that um we would need to be involved in that any of these funds as would income and it would have to be a town meeting vote because this is most of the all these Capital
project funds are debt them and so in order to move to another project you need a town meeting yeah so I think the the timing of it would be you know winter before April town meeting and then late summer early fall for November town meeting so that would be a good
exercise for us um if there's no if there's no other questions we're going to move just for oh sorry good Chris thanks Carlo so Sharon by you mentioning that it can only be moved by Tom meeting are we not able to now move all these numbers because town meeting is going to
happen in fincom and we have not voted anything beyond your middle column there so the Parker roof isn't going to anything at the moment no because I I guess I was under the assumption that these ending bales that we have remaining would be most useful for
something like or kill where we would be trying to baring and we wouldn't do that until after those have passed so that would be at the earliest at November town meeting we could do that so um that was my assumption maybe maybe the
assumtion but I just fig that that's where it would be most use because it would say us excluded debt that's being added back to the taxpayer yeah I understand in the in the grand scheme that the numbers towards middle down are
you know Small Potatoes compared to what you do just mentioned but any amount would help in advance you know what I mean um so obviously you know a million dollars off you know 150 or whatever this is going to end up
being is is almost nothing but it does make it a little easier so it's a good way a project like a building project there's never a question because the baring term is at least 30 years you know you know so that qualifies any
borrowing here question all the other on I have to say I have to compare borrowing terms it just seemed like that this project one of the two projects would be a good place to put these I would say then for
the special time meeting for this just to bring this up and like I said it's not a big sum of money but it is something you know to say that we have all these extra items outstanding that aren't going to things like $113 for the turf and Tra isn't paying for like two
hot dogs in a Gatorade but like it it's you know get rid of it it we pay you more money to deal with it thank you all right thank you Sharon um next uh agenda item is uh a vote of
support it's not binding it's kind of a just what it says a vote of support um Mark brought this forward and I I fully agree as elected Town leaders these two projects uh are the biggest projects that are in front of us and have been a
long time so this is a symbolic vote it's not a binding it's not needed but uh I I think it is important so we'll do the motion do we have a motion yeah okay uh move to support the kilum school building and Senior Center
SL ring Center for active living living recal projects thank you um so now we'll have discussion Mark I'm looking at you yeah thanks car so um Thanks for for for bringing this forward I think that you
stated very nicely Carl these are the two kind of big project serving major spots of the community that can make a difference and I think Town leadership needs to be clear um that these impact are of the priorities um and bring It
Forward I think town meeting needs to hear it V needs to hear it being needs to hear it the voters need to hear it so here's our opportunity to do exactly that it's just to make sure that they have the opportunity to hear from the town leadership this is these are the priorities so let's do it thanks thank
you Chris thanks Carlo um yeah I agree I I understand that this is um more of a symbolic gesture um I'd be biased because I've you know been on killum for
a bit now um um and seeing how everybody over there worked together and I believe every vote was almost unanimous as well on that project and that's a mix of anybody in in reading for the most part from any angle area that you want to
bring up uh somebody has had a seat at the table at least I'm K and I'm sure the same things happened with recal along the way um the permanent building committee is one of the most unbiased unblushed kind of committees in this
entire town that you know um it's good to see that they got uh created out of something uh I believe it was the library in high school overage or something like that is why they got created um so I I do have my own
reservations on this um it's I don't think it's my time and place to just you know give my opinion one way or the other on on any of these projects uh I think the biggest thing is that I agree that it should be put forth to the V voters in this town to make the ultimate
decision it's not up to me it's not up to us five it's up to the you know town meeting and then the entire town so I would hope that town meeting would put it forward as well and then just let really the voters decide on this and people can have their opinions then and have lawn signs and however else they
feel that they want to do this um but I appreciate everybody's time and effort that has gone into it this it's been a long time for everything um you know and and that's essentially how I feel on
this is that it's it's not up to me Karen thank you um so this is a a great um item to have on our agenda tonight um and we talk about the leadership of the town we talk about the elected boards um
not just the select board but also the school building committee and having served on that building committee for two and a half years and put a lot of effort it effort into it and having been um as involved as I could be and as supportive as I have been able to be for the recal um project and I'm very
excited about bringing that resource to our community as Mark has said any number of times it it touches so many members of our community with these two projects so I think this vote is important for the residents to send a
message from the select board and to also as you um noted to you know reach out to to finance committee and the school committee that both of these projects are very important and um we should support them for the benefit of our
residents Melissa thank you I agreed that both of these projects are to the benefit to everyone in this town it really does touch everyone in this town with both of these projects um I have I have my concerns
that the tax increase could negatively affect some people in this town but with that being said I still think that these projects need to go to the voters and the town residents need to make the decision on this and I will Advocate as much as I can to help those that it may
be a burden for whether it's the seniors or other family or other families in this town and also try to alleviate the pressure of both projects with coming up with a plan for the current Pleasant stre Center and you know plans like that
to try to just alleviate and maybe those funds can help a little bit maybe if it's even just with some of the cost that will come with recal if it gets past but I will support this um both of these projects to go to the residence of this time thank you yeah we we've done this
before um had some symbolic votes and I I I agreed to put this on there I fully support it I I I'm a little biased I was a killing family for all three of my children and and this is going born back uh you know 15 17 years from my first child so it's been a long time
coming and these families even before me that this school was needed so killum uh I've said in the past is is you know long overdue had been a priority for a long time so I'm glad the msba got involved and we were fortunate fortunate
enough to get in in all the work that everyone has done this is years and years like Chris said Mark sentiments uh said it best and I I think I think the voters um you know this is very impactful uh for the town and very good for the town so there's a lot of
benefits but U you know we've heard from residents I'm sure all five of us on the impacts um positive and negative but I I fully um support both projects um like Chris I have my personal opinions but it's not up to me it's up to town
meeting and the voters and on May 13th uh we will vote on both of these projects and uh I look forward to everything in the future so we had that that's so all all in favor 5 zero thank you next we have a c
our packet uh Commissioner of trust funds I don't know if anyone is going to um we'll get that on the screen for everybody and Neil is going to say some kind words I'm sure words which
one um both I think but sure Amplified this is green so it's this one y okay I I do have a kind word from Arc of course Mark has been the uh select boards the AA to the commissioner of the
trust funds for five years or did you start on your first year I don't remember I think five okay it's been a pleasure to serve with you and appreciate your service your help your input your guidance um and moving us forward thank you very
much um I'm just here to to talk to you about the trust funds um I can answer any questions I think a lot of you know there's a list of all the funds that we have up here excuse me um the large mic pull it the that one yep bring it close
that's the one that's the one you can hear it in the room okay y thank you um so we have the the cemetery funds we have the trail Committee Fund which is a new fund we have the hospital funds which I'm sure everybody wants to talk
about the library funds scholarship funds and down the board Elder Services most of these funds are administered by the separate boards the trustees of the library the library trustees excuse me administer the
library funds um sorry secary trust are administered by the sary trustees uh scholarship award by the Scholarship Foundation of the school
department uh and so forth um other services the trust administered by the council and agent our responsibility is simply to manage the money invest the money and expend the money as were
directed um the hospital funds say you know are the bulk of this um there is um over $6 million in funds and if you see what's Expendable and what's not Expendable almost all of it's Expendable
the non-expendable amount is simply the amounts that were left to the town originally the first one was left in 1925 by gim Parker who left $35,000 and because of that the Massachusetts legislature in 1926
created the commissioner of trust funds to manage this money for the to of BR which is what we've been doing since then um we are very hampered in what we can do with the hospital funds as I think you know the original will of
Gilman Parker was to start a fund and build a hospital in Reading uh expecting that other donations would be added there were two additional donations one in 1947 from Steven Foster and one in 1952 from an
Gard um those Wills all directed that the interest on the funds can be used to F hospital bills of needy people in the interim until the hospital was built and that's what they were used for um as you can see we were not able to
spend all the money that we were there using and so that in 1988 uh the town decided to seek What's called the doctrine of s pre and order from the courts to change the charitable intent of
the the gift but it has to stay within the parameters of the will so the S Doctrine allowed us to use the funds for inhome Health Care Transportation to hospitals and other approved medical centers and facilities and other
medically related Services authorized by the Commissioners so we' we've tried to use these funds and we've worked with uh Elder services to implement these we've used these for um transportation we use them
for um the the Healthline um Lifeline sorry Lifeline the lifeline thank you it's not call it Lifeline anymore so I can't use that word uh but um those are the types of things in the past we've tried other things
when elder Services come to us and um said you know we have some citizens that need the funds for we try to pill dispensers we have tried using these funds for some restant care for
caregivers and we we having difficulty spending the money we can't spend all the money that we have unfortunately and so that's why that amount of money is sitting there and looks like it's doing nothing but we're very limited in what we can do with it Karen sure thank you um
so so 1988 it was was the last time we attempted to expand as a community we tried to use the Latin phrase which means give us more flexibility 1988 okay so you know I'm thinking that's a really
long time and and that might be thing this board might consider whether it's time to take another look um but I just wanted to ask you a little bit about I like some of the ideas that you have tried to do um we run ambulances and and people have heard me say multiple times it's a
mobile Hospital in the day and age and um but I I like that it's it's been attempted to use them ambulance rides are like four grand a piece so and we have people that you know don't
don't always have the resources to cover that so I was just wondering when you said we haven't you haven't had great luck spending this like what is is it because the purposes you're coming up with are being rejected or is because we're not doing a great job of making
sure that everybody could benefit is is being told or what what is the challenge I think part of it is people are not aware of it but the the thing that hamstrings us the most is that These funds are only for reading residents but they're also for what are referred to as
needy residents did you define needy uh we Define needy as using Hud's eligibility income for assisted living we use the same um metrics that HUD would use so Elder Services again
administers for this for us they take intake they do intake with people in town and they have the income information for these people and they determined whether they would be eligible for the services that we can provide from the uh Hospital trust funds
we can't use these funds for the general public so we can't take $4,000 for an ambulance RVE or to buy a new ambulance which would be obviously a good benefit to everybody we had to do that but right
but are those HUD gine guidelines the same kind of income guidelines that we use for affordable housing in town they are yes exact same so and and thank you for saying that we could probably do a better job of if of of highlighting These funds
and okay thank you anyone anyone else on the bo oh sorry anyone else on the board Chris thanks Carla uh and thank you for the presentation I I would love to create some creative uh pickle ball
Hospital floating Center over on Simon's way or something for 6 and half million sounds great um uh just a quick AI search of what we can actually potentially use these for it looks like you might be able to create a scholarship program for nurses
and doctors to it pursue training I understand it would be reading with income limits that you just mentioned but is that indeed something that it could be used for like create a scholarship for some kids at the high school or something that decide to want
to go into nursing or something like that I wouldn't say no I I don't know that that would probably be something that we'd have to run by Town Council but that you know that's a creative idea creative thinking that would help us use some of these funds for something beneficial absolutely yeah because in
your opinion this is just going to sit forever you will never be able to to spend down beyond the the interest that you're acre yes until we can build the hospital yes exactly yeah um no I I think getting an
update once a year give me more time to look into my own creative way of of thinking to see what we can do with this but absolutely we got to do something and if only two people qualify under this fancy scholarship thing or whatever
that is two people that actually got some good use out of it so absolutely we'll see what we can do Ken suggestion that we consider another shot you know as side right another uh change is a good suggestion as well we have to do
something I saw in here solar as well I I think AI might be wrong in this but who knows because then we can put solar on something to sign us up so we'll see how that goes thanks I saw Mark first thanks car um
so this is something that I've been actively talking about as NE will tell you trying to think about what what might we be able to do with some of these funds um one of the things that just as long go cretive thinking just for a moment was if we're doing um more
nursing oriented services for needy patrons administered through let's say the new recal center maybe that's that's something along the lines could be uh useful also and even within the current guidelines that probably would would be interesting again Town Council as the
that's the guy do we ahead but I think that's the kind of stuff that could be um you know just cly thought through what what can we do this that really is going to benefit uh those needy folks per the wishes excuse me of the gror of these funds in the first place
thanksa thank you for this presentation I appreciate it and for you coming here tonight I was actually going to say something very similar to what Mark said I think that if maybe we could use it for something in the new recal center that would be fantastic and I just want to confirm so um the Council on Aging
knows the guidelines so they know if they see someone come in that they could probably reach out to you guys for any cost for an individual it's Elder Services Elder Services I'm sorry so Elder services and as Elder services in
the current Fen Street Center do they have an office there correct yeah okay so they know all the guidelines so they know to reach out to you okay perfect thank you again I appreciate it my pleasure and and just to pick up on Mark said some of the brainstorming that we've done in our sessions we've talked
about something similar like Mark said and we've talked about having a situation where we're giving um vaccinations to the folks in town which would be great but we get that restriction again we can't do it for everybody in town it has to be the
people that meet the income government so that's that's the hard part but you know anything that we can think of to use these funds would be fantastic I I you know I've been watching this fun grow for a long time and we unfortunately have not been able to
spend as I said the money and everything you know it's nice that the fund's growing bigger but you know it' be nice if we can make it smaller too because we're using put it to good use I have a question I'm guessing you guys have addressed numerous times is
that is there any provisions or anything we can do with the families the AES of the families that can adjust or uh give up their rights I know the the will is specific I'm sure you have to honor it but if is I don't
know I'm not an attorney I'm guessing you guys have discussed that or we yes and I don't think there's anything we can do with that in that case because these have been all been all accepted by to meeting as they were written
yeah yeah well town meeting can do more can accepted modify what they did I mean I I'd love to have a brainstorming session we we write the warrant for town meeting and I don't think these five people are the only ones that think we'd like to do
more in yourself included so I I wouldn't let that be a hle true okay that's great thank you yeah I didn't think it was this big uh I knew it was in the millions but this was shocking and and I think in 50 years we'll have
enough money to build a hospital but you wa that long or or an Urgent Care at least something but I I I think I I agree with Karen that we have to take a look under the hood and I hate spending you know Town Council money but
I think it's worth it and to see if we can put a warant article in front of town meeting and like again I don't know I'm not an attorney so I'll stop there but I I I think this I'm glad you guys came tonight again we've heard about this through Mark we've never had you
guys come present um Mark has talked about it the various funds over the years but again another good exercise for the board um I think at least once a year but all the funds seem to be doing good for a lot of people and that's what we want that's what they were intended
for so uh thank you and um we'll see you next year okay thank you thank you thank shout out to the to the trust commissioner so the the folks do have responsibility for investing the money
and have um I think done a great job of conservatively investing it um and getting a good return and um you know existing members are brought a lot some new members are bringing a lot to the table of um and and it's really great and and
uh just as a quick commercial I know that there's there are a couple openings basically so one select board member and one one potentially open spot coming up yeah thank you I just you know I forward to whoever is going to be the select board leaders I'm going forward to
meeting them and working with them as well after the elections thanks thank you y um a quick question for Matt and was about the Cemetary funds so you're off the hook oh okay so I was just a general question so we have obviously we have staff we have
cemeter staff how are these funds used to support our cemeteries and it's good to see that these are healthy figures I don't know the answer that's why I put m that the money goes out every month I think we spend my like $10,000 a month to come out go out of
the cemetery fund money to the cemetery the trustees spend that so that let you answer that question thank you yeah and I can find out more information on that I know that that that's what happens um I don't know exactly what they spend it on but let me talk to the cemetery trustees and find that out and get back
to you on that that would be that would be helpful maybe there's some help for operations there I don't I don't know cuz I don't know the answer thank you okay thank you thank you Neil thank you everyone thank you can can I make a motion to uh end our board meeting now
second all those in favor all right thanks for coming so next we have discuss possible creation of a disabilities Council and uh Matt did a little bit of research uh and it's in
our packet it's uh it can be done but it's a you know with to jump jump through some hoops to get it done so Karen wanted this on the agenda so I'll let Karen uh start with any comments or questions on the memo that was in the
packet um well I'd like to thank Matt for doing this research and going out and bringing this I this memo does um give us some good guidelines for doing this this was requested um of Me by several um residents and we have
received a a couple of emails as well encouraging us to go ahead and do this and um subsquent town meeting so we have a we have a path and um you know I'd love some more input from staff I I I'm also
getting calls from residents who are now or calls and emails frustrated about um maybe their um disability or inability to deal with large um trash bins with trash cards and
you know so far the policies there really focused on seniors but what I'm learning more and more is that the the accessibility I'd rather say accessibility rather than disability it's it's far-reaching so um the is this the only thing we could
name it I think disability commission or I I think I mean that's what it's called for in the statute and sometimes it takes the statute a while to catch up but um I I mean I could look to see could maybe call it that could be the official legal name and then it could be
something else maybe yeah yep um because I have talked to any number of residents that talk about you know curb Cuts handrails and we've had lots and lots of discussions with recal it's you know we don't want to just meet the minimum Ada we need to make it accessible but you I
I'm surprised at how many ways this comes up and um as long as we didn't make it 13 members I I think we could find members in the the community who would be willing to serve and and with the right skills to do um a good job with this so this would be something
that I would hope the select board um would like to take seriously any other comments on the board Mark thanks Carlo kind of just Carri this with me um so Maryland is it called
Universal accessibility is that the right it's Universal Design Universal Design thank you that's what it is too accessible yeah exactly so you know as it relates to new construction that's going on and big RBS and things like
that um thinking forward that way and taking it Beyond Ada just as Karen said is great the other part of it though relates to existing structures buildings um walkways you know all all sorts of other activities where um there's an opportunity to do better I guess is the
right way to put it so um I think this is a really good thing for the board to to take a look at um and even see if we could find um a group of people that meet the requirements that would be willing to participate just to make sure that's that's go
thanksa I just had a quick question what is the difference between like having our ADA compliance officer who law versus having a commission and also assuming that all of you know when it comes to new buildings
maybe not existing buildings um there's building codes that have to be followed and I always thought they kept up with the 88 compliance stuff um State codes always they jump okay not always okay so what would the difference be having a
commission versus just an ADA like office from my understanding you can have both um you can have the commission and the Ada coordinator um currently right now that's Laura and she's held that title for many years I think when they created that position to Def
was you know the town clerk so that's basically how she she got that position um so I mean I think they could work hand inand together um one change that you know I've received a request um to name Albert plus as the Ada coordinator
um Laur is in agreement with that as well um it's a little bit off her plate um and he may be bring some fresh ideas to that you know in addition to his other duties so I'm inclined to to make that appointment um and that you know whoever the person is would work closely
with the disability commission if one was created we also do have a building department unfortunately our building um our Building Commissioner has uh is leaving um actually tomorrow um for for another job in another municipality but we are looking to fill that that
position and if there if there were Ada type complaints we would also have that person look into them from a building code standpoint mhm okay thank you thank you thank you Chris thanks Carlo um yeah
no I agree with Matt uh when I looked at this uh a couple months ago what other cities and towns are doing I did see that it's it's typically under their um uh director of equity and social justice Etc kind of positions is typically where
it uh has lied so I support what you uh had mentioned by uh having uh Albert take care of it Lara's done a phenomenal job too as well I I know that town hall has been you know the the back door
thing was squared away bathroom stuff um what Parker killum something happened over there too as well so I mean things are actively happening in the town in the last 2 three years so it's not like we haven't been doing anything no that's correct she has been working hard on
that but I think you know she's she's willing to give that up and concentrate on elections and all the other important works you do y Karen did you have your hand up again so um thanks so um I don't know if this is true but the
thought I had is that this was more kind of um actively um identifying and pursuing New Opportunities uh to make changes U more so than compliance which is um maybe responding to complaints um assuring
that that we meet codee the other thing I became aware of through recal is that there's code um and then there's um what might actually be much more useful uh which can of times be above code in figuring out how to how to make
that part of the discussion I think that that's something this this group could do and you know in recal you know I'm looking at Maryland you know various people served to to kind of bring that that information forward um Michelle Clapper is another person brought a lot of that information forward it was very
helpful in that whole discussion uh we're not really taking public comments just that's right thank you um I'm also um wondering if there might be a parallel with our what's the house what's our Housing Commission
called where they can have a role maybe looking for um grants to sort of carry out some of the things we'd like to do like the affordable housing trust or the thank you yeah because those folks will be you know looking for opportunities and it is a proactive organization and
there are grants and I wouldn't be surprised if there are grants in line with this community is looking to do this as well all right we good all right uh to be continued I guess on this topic so next we have discuss Renewable Energy
Trust membership agreement oh that Matt yeah so so this again um goes to Green communities and this was the the last piece we had brought it to town meeting um to you know to to sort of agree in principle that the select board would
enter into this agreement through me with rmld um this the last piece of Green community so this is the part where funds are collected and it's something like you know $ two $3 a year um to fund the the the partnership the membership
and you know once we're done with this piece of it we would be eligible for several grants um you know the first original Grant could be anywhere from 150,000 to $190,000 um there's been a lot of work on this you know for years here I know
Karen has done um tons of work on it um the the agreement itself is a little dense it's a sort of boiler plate legal agreement um I've worked on it with with Jane and also Andrew um who's on Zoom tonight too if there's any questions and
tonight we just put it on to for discussion um and we're hoping that it gets voted on the next meeting which would be the 22nd and that would be the final piece of of Green community so that's my understanding go ahead Karen oh just a quick question um and thank
you for keeping track of this and all of you for moving it forward and um so I have not been speaking with the um the green communities people so I'm just wondering for 20 25 what is the the rest of the process the application
deadlines um maybe if Andrew on I may have him speak to that um because he's been working more closely with that Andrew are you um are you on did you he a question
devel um the rest of process is sign still a few weeks until the official designation it is why it's important to get this contract done sooner than later
just because the governor themselves needs to actually sign the designation and we need to get that done this springwise we're potentially facing almost reapplying again at the June deadline buts process of this is
finalized and we get the full designation we immedately start working on the designation reference year to complete that project and we can be eligible for another annual
Grant so so when is um when is the deadline for our the resubmission of our application hav't date yet um our deadline was December and we met that deadline we met um
back and to go back and for the last few weeks on some backup information which we' provided them but all the technical it's just the signature okay thanks for remind me I I do remember the first time we put it in we got got a sorry not going to work
this time because you haven't done this piece letter pretty quickly have you gotten any other feedback from the state we have not got any other feedback other than they just waiting for this contract to finish okay and I did speak
to um rep Hagerty um in last week or so and and he is most definitely looking for us to keep him updated they they want to see us get to the Finish Line on this thanks absolutely we do facilities has a project in mind we're alreadying
up for the designation Grant if we can help it uh that will move pretty quickly hopefully all right thanks Andrew any other questions Melissa just a quick question what is the designation Grant designation Grant is initial Grant
award when you actually first receive your designation it's l of a competitive process it's just one that gets allocated and if you have a fitting use you can uze it right away it's based on equation mostly based on population and
some other numbers that comp communities I think field is about 160,000 when they their designation gr so that's the numbers we're kind of working in guessing towards estimating towards I should say okay great and then
quick one other quick question um with the hope that the two building projects get passed will this program will we be able to get any grants through this program anything anything for those buildings an interesting question um
most of the green communitys are dedicated to existing structure and efficiency improvements and L new construction they do have the climate leaders program which offers up
to$ in gr awards for new construction using cleaner efficent technology this have to go through to get there I it could be done within a year but things like the advanced
stretch code we have the regular stretch code right now uh you have to commit that municipal buildings going forward I think would be that zero or there's a road map to Bringing most municipal buildings to Zero by 2050 or so um some
Logistics to get there but it is possible okay thank you any other questions from to Andrew or no good all right uh next week we will have a vote it's already on the agenda that's a good segue to Future
agendas so um this will be the last meeting that I officially chair but I will meet with mat Jane to uh review this agenda before we elect a new chair on the 22nd so
right now we have a bunch of things that we've already discussed and and there's you know it's not a lot but it's going to be some healthy discussions uh for the puant street Center in the master plan uh we're
hoping to get this going by uh getting a charge going and and and really you know get this going so we can formalize it maybe um late late spring early summer and and and get the master plan committee going but if anyone has
any suggestions uh for the 22nd or Beyond I think we've been filling in everyone's uh recommendations I know Mark you mentioned something about trails and put that on for the 22nd Town Forest Town Forest sorry Town Forest
I'll put that on there um so that's a small addition not a big agenda item yep um we have um Matt has informed me that we now have um the final portrait for the select boardroom of Harriet Tubman
so we could um do an unveiling at that time during our meeting we could do it slightly before our meeting you know but um it'll kind of be ad not suggestion it would be a nice um way to kick off our first meeting and updated select Board
Room okay I'll talk to that about that anyone else no I have a kind of a question that's a little bit off of our agenda but something I just wanted to mention to Jane that I meant to mention at my our liaison reports do we have the breakdown from the pickall people on
their building expenses that were like really high we asked them to break that down you don't have to answer that question right now cuz I don't want to get in trouble with open meeting law but I that would definitely be something I would hope we have for town meeting oh yeah thank you yep okay yeah it's a good update to get us for the 22nd not really
an agenda item but an update y thanks Carl um yeah related to earlier about Mark being the designate for the commissioner of trust funds maybe having that on the next agenda going forward um
in the it's part of our Rog yeah it's part of our Rog maybe yeah just something like that because I just Carlo there are a bunch of different committees to take a look so count far is there a bunch of other ones right but this is one that would be one of us I think that's what Chris is referring to
same thing Tom Forest would be one of one of you okay okay gotcha all right so we I guess we can any any of Markus leaz on we'd have to we're going to we're going to reorganize so that that's usually were you always just reappointed to the
commission of trust funds and nobody ever said anything like no it's not that nobody said anything no just all right we're not we're not that's on a future agenda it just seemed like a perect back to the comments about volunteering yeah I I think Mark just as
far as that goes right we we reorganize on the 22nd and then if I'm trying to look on the typically yeah typically after that so that's when we'll yeah and we'll we'll have the previous years's list and
your name will be you know still be there and then we'll just divy it up Karen yeah um just um a request for maybe the town manager um update um the shoot Street Building I I do believe
that their permission they got approv from 6 CBD see a few years ago and I do believe they were running out of extensions and um I was wondering if you could get us a quick upate on the status of that I'm thinking that's a cpdc thing yeah I I can get an
update on that yeah what um looking at Future agendas is 52 sandborn a town property no that that's the um the School House condos yeah and the I guess
it's a historic property um and they're going to do some upgrades there I think to the foure of the entrance and so they went to this historic commission but there's a deed rest restriction that the select board has to deal with it's a formality so I can some information I
just I was just a little confused yeah perfect thank you so y yeah uh anyone else going once going twice all right um minutes um I had one small
Jackie yeah that she's putting up there now um in the uh let's see the liaison report um I just wanted to correct it is the mass Municipal fiscal policy committee it's called the fiscal
team and it's just mentioned twice anyone else while Jackie is uh doing that I'll all right can we have a motion please motion to no no oh I'm sorry what kind do you
want minutes I was going to let Mark make that other motion I withraw that well she actually said motion to adjourn wasn't seconded wasn't second good yes second uh move to approve the meeting
minutes from March 18th 2025 as amended second any discussion seeing none all those in favor okay just for the record this is my second meeting before 9 o' fell you give me as chair next CH you
can now we have a motion motion to ajour second second oh yeah no discussion sorry all those in favor 5 meeting is adjourned at 8:37 good job I'm great