recording in progress uh five of us all right so I'm going to call them Simon Way exploratory committing to order there are five of us in person Angela Nancy Heather Carlo and Karen and Andrew is on zoom and Chuck informed me he has a business meeting and he's not be able not gonna be able to make it or maybe he'll show up late but he told me he couldn't make it so um first item on the agenda is public comment there's no one in the room so we will go to zoom is there anyone on Zoom that wants to make public comment no no one on Zoom okay so to the meat of the potato meet and the potatoes uh slide hopefully youve all had a chance to look at the version that we have from Jackie um I think it looks great if you want to go guys Slide by slide can I just say thank you Jackie I that was phenomenal made it so easy made our life easy yes you did yeah I said it yeah we have to knowledge the effort of Jackie yeah because it really made our job easier she organized it gave us a great outline skeleton awesome job thank you yeah unanimous support from the yes much appreciated so we agree to go one slide by slide and then okay so so formation I guess was the first one with words I think after all our all the members um I have a comment about this comment or ad verbage just either either one title and everything I just the add ad verbage or just a comment on the wording of it yeah a comment to change wording yeah yeah perfect um so we're okay so we're on slide three right so um in 2019 we purchased the acreage um after site survey it was determined that 2.5 acres was buildable and then it says in November 2022 the um committee was formed I think the survey didn't the survey happened after we were the ones who commissioned the survey that determined was yeah I wasn't sure when I was looking at the list I I would so I would put in 2019 the town purchased approximately 15 acres and then in November 2022 the select board formed it and then after the site survey because that I think that that's the way that it happened that survey was what we commissioned not it wasn't done before oh no no that that no no that was no that wasn't us the site survey was under Fidel yeah Fidel did the site survey before public survey we did the public you're talking about the survey results yeah no surveying the land the surveying of the land that wasn't us yeah we didn't ask him to do that he did that before our committee was formed yes and that's where I I wasn't but it was at the it didn't happen because of the formation of it no no he was getting ahead of it on his own so he provided that information to us provided the Western stampson information to us to answer the select board yeah I wasn't sure when the so when did but but he didn't do that after the after before because we didn't meet until January when was that survey done I couldn't figure I'd say sometime in 22 am I out a guess I couldn't tell you what month right but there were discussions like all summer long about the formation of it formation of what us this yes there were there were multiple you know the discussion about the swack it just makes it it it makes it sound like this the Acres were purchased there was a site survey and then in 2022 this happened I it that's not really that's correct though well in order if you want to go chronologically or chronologically that's I mean without anyone knowing the we have to look it up when it was done here let's look it up look it up so November 2022 the select board appointed the Simon Way exploratory committee to serve as an advisory committee that was November 2022 that was on um but the oh Andrew andw go ahead Andrew Andrew you don't have to put your hand up just like you know just only us here it's only us I'm looking at the PDF Weston and Samson dated it September 23rd 2022 there you go yeah thank you there you go and then and we were formed in 2022 we were formed in 2022 November right but the discussions about the swack happened for a while before then like maybe I don't know so that's what I'm matter it makes it sound like so then let's put that in after a site survey Well site survey presented after site survey was presented after a site survey comma done in October uh September 20122 or something like that completed completed in September 202 Anderson it was stamped September of 22 okay but I'd like to put that in there because it didn't happen when I read this it seems like we bought the land then we had the site survey and and that didn't happen it was three years later and it was because of the swack that that really kind of happened no well I I know what you're saying but and I I I it's I think we should add it but it's yes sweat discussions were going on yeah and then I think Fidel in advance because we know we wanted to do something on that land hired Weston and Samson to kind of perform a preliminary you know they didn't dig it was a site survey it was I know what it was yes yes but it makes it sound like Jackie I think Happ 2019 I think it should be first after the site survey and then in nove if we want to keep it in order so that goes before in November 202 yeah yeah yeah why don't we sorry this is the problem with words something like yes that's right want so it says in 2019 the town purchased approximately 15 Acres on Simon's way off Hail Street and then how about a subsequent site survey completed in September 2022 showed yeah performed by West showed that only 2.5 acres of BL was buildable and then in November 2022 just like you have it perfect formed okay yeah and that just makes the survey closer to the formation of the committee yeah yeah that's Andrew that okay with you yep okay okay next slide guys over there are we good to move on to the next slide yeah I think so can that is it is it because it's on the gray or is it because I just can't see very well can that I think it's just the projector it just be made a little bigger yeah okay but that yeah sorry yeah I know it's I'll look at it on my computer then um I had no comments on this one um number three at a March 2023 meeting comments made by the public suggested we look at instead of saying the entire area can you you say all town-owned area on Simon's way yeah that's more accurate Y and there's just one little typo thing at that at bullet number five um we should probably not capitalize private there the very last line this is the one sad I had a comment on number two the the schematic drawings were done by SV design not by Weston and Samson oh thank you good catch Al so on item number three i' have to would have to look back unless you guys remember it says at March 23 meeting comments made by the public suggested that we look at the entire holistic area and then at some point we wanted to present that as well as a committee well I was wondering so the select board um when the select board voted to expand our charge was that at our request yes that's what I mean it was at our request so that's what so at a March 2023 meeting comments made by the public suggested that we look at the entire area holistically well we're changing it to this at the town at all Town owned area on Simon's way and then sub quently and then at the request of so number four at sw's request right yeah yeah to the select board or just add okay yeah that's good that's fine yeah that's fine okay all right instead of our charge say the committee's charge anyone else so number four the Burbank Ice Arena comma the baseball field comma and a small area next to 18 Simon way I know can go both but I've been like retrained and it drives me nuts are you an Oxford comma I am now an Oxford Comm [Laughter] convert I like how parenthe I mean quotation marks come outside I mean that they're inside and punctual oh it drives me nuts yes that's another thing yeah know in um is it okay to just say an RFI or do we need to WR we probably should write reest information pareses RFI yeah because it's used later on proof feates here yes AB okay that was number five are we ready to move on wait what was it a request was developed and published I think it's okay like that to solicit response is from area businesses I know there are business but area businesses from developers or we could just say parties parties how about interested parties yeah because that makes it sound like we were just going locally or something our requests for information are five was developed and published to solicit responses from parties interested in a private SLU partnership okay I'm good prefer partnership because it says Enterprise oh it does say that oh Enterprise is fine okay so want to RFI scoring criteria page I have a really big question um and I didn't go back to minutes to look I'm sorry but on this one were these criteria did we do those just for the RFI I think these were our our our our evaluation criteria for all of these yes am I the only one who thinks no no you're absolutely correct no it is not for no I think you're right overall criteria yes it was criteria to determine on the drve race Bo over there yeah yeah yeah so what do we call them yeah well I know what to call them um so someone said evaluation criteria eval evaluation criteria what it was now we had more we did this but you were the top six yeah the other ones started to get yeah I don't think we need to get in the weeds yeah it got too long on the perfect and then in the little intro paragraph where it says to help the committee judge potential respondents we should probably change that to say help the committee to um evaluate evaluate different potential uses there you go yeah that's good or judge or evaluate potential uses yeah so I'm looking at our actual um what the select board gave us and it says the first tech of swc will be to define the best use for the property and that evaluation criteria to determine best use of property can we add that sure evaluation criteria to to Define best use of property should we I think we should even add what our charge was as a slide that was our mission yeah I had that further down that we should we should probably do that somewhere the top I think we should do it yeah this after the swc formation um and before like that could be yeah the third slide insert a slide there yeah they just then we could just copy and paste what our what our mission is what our Direction was from so there's it's several pages long but there is a part that says purpose the purpose of this committee is to serve as an advisory committee to the select board We Shall Gather input blah blah blah so that would be good to have it would probably need its own slide yes I would just just that the charge yeah sorry Jack let's finish this slide first and then we that in okay so we to be evaluation for what did you say so what it says is um the first task of swack will be to define the best use for the property so you don't have to say swack just committee Define the best use yeah the best use for the property and so Define the best choice here yeah that's how you would put it to help the committee Define the best Cho or identify yeah Oren best use I don't think we need the word scoring it's EV valuation criteria yeah we haven't actually determined how to score well so the sentence then becomes to help the committee Define the best use of the property and I'm going to go back there in a second um evaluate and evaluate criteria and I the property T is evaluation criteria were dis were discussed and established as follows okay there you go and then another little suggestion if the committee agrees is because we've gone the route of not saying here this is the best use right um we're saying these are the best uses um I might suggest putting use either saying uses or use with like that parenthesis and parenthesis oh the s in the preses yeah sound good yeah that's fine and I think we're not defining we're really identifying I would change Define to identify and then Jackie one more thing take out scoring at the top where it says evaluation scoring criteria just put evaluation criteria yeah because we didn't really there you go with the score and then if we look at the list it should be intergenerational use yeah I got that wrong oh y and as long as where um public use I don't think would be capitalized it would be small P small U we're doing it tonight so got to get it right right yes please so then where would we put that okay then the other the charge would go at the top oh for and SWAT charge how about after the formation after the form form and then SWAT charge or do we yeah yeah we could even just say was there that purpose section yeah just put in the the right the purpose section um I would say the purpose up until the committee shall consider the following one two and three oh well I don't know I don't know how far up do you have it do you have our charge if if you go to yeah so we can determine charge revised May 2023 yeah probably it you want the purpose yeah and do we want to put in the deliverable and or just the purpose just the purpose all of the purpose that's a lot it is a yeah it is a lot yeah okay this is going to be a lot that's okay yeah we're not going to read this at the whoever is presenting is not gonna read this whole thing you want the exhibit reference there the whole thingy yeah why not what I don't this if we're doing it chronologically if we're doing it chronologically you saying here's the sweat charge we just pasted from the March revision um the original November version Oh the different didn't refer to the exhibit a and I think that makes it kind of we have Maps later on so why don't we just say at Simon's way period I know what you mean because we expanded the charge yeah exactly but the original charge didn't include that and we never I think the original charge is on the website right is that where you got yeah and it does not reference exhibit a no it doesn't yeah no it wouldn't okay we don't want to change that those were okay we're good good okay thank you moving on on to results page results did I is that the right title results there's no recommendations recommendations later on right okay right I need to find yeah results okay well results our hearings and meetings is what I was kind of aiming I don't know if that's right this just talks about what we discussed yeah or how about outcomes work uh deliberation Community feedback Community input is that's what this is well yeah I'm wondering if we should move there's the community survey results I'm wondering if we should move that um results slide whatever we call it after the community survey because we did the community survey that indicated that recreational uses were I don't think I think Black Earth was part of that survey was it right meeting but chronologically didn't we do the community survey and then a lot of people came and said what they wanted um and so we could do we just move this this slide that goes over the requests that were heard from the public we could move that to after the community survey so can we call this community feedback Community yeah input Community INB something like that not results right I know what it means results of references to the survey well this was actually results of our meetings survey I figured that was being taken care of right and was Black Earth which it was just a suggestion right no no but was that in person or was that was in person yeah and then um I don't think I was at this meeting but didn't the president of rting me lacrosse come and make a presentation about the me lacrosse Fields also oh yes she did a presentation oh public comment yeah public comment pitch okay so that should be added right yeah yeah I'm just thinking because that was another one so Community feedback and then we need to add lacrosse um I would say uh advocated from field cross requested field yeah youth lross right but okay so um request the need for more Fields well but number one two and three all start with Contracting using and building so we should in the same format how about creating more fieldsa creating more practice fields for this was particular for youth lacrosse for youth lacrosse breing youth Lacross what it called breing youth Lacross creating more practice and someone did from the audience from participation did also um talk about a swimming pool as well yeah that was a yeah Aquatic Center or we say swimming pool what we say yeah we can say Aquatic Center creating an aquatic center so in terms of sequence these were kind of happening simultaneously yeah fact some of these happened before we even got the the survey exactly this came out I think most of these were before we got the survey out I guess that's true was wrong to reverse that yeah and and it's more these were in-person feedback right so this is community feedback as opposed to survey results yes it is yeah I just wanted to make sure that we acknowledge that there were people who attended in yeah Andrew do you have any comments on this one no I'm just thinking about the the title but um I think it works I think it works if you yeah if you can think of something else we could you know no it's it's Community input because it's not really feedback it's input that's were these kind of community requests were they what more like Community requests because it wasn't these were where people came and they said we'd like you do this I mean input's the same input can be the same thing yeah yeah sorry yeah because it's not really feedback to what we did it's it's input all right can we can we change the sequence too because the dog park I think was one of the last things yeah so that can go from two to six yeah um so if that's if that's what that is then I would take the last two things off those still fit in with Community input like does the one RFI by Edge Sports jive with Community input no it doesn't so that and that needs to go somewhere I where that but but I don't think it belongs here right and I do think the last thing though is part that the last thing should remain because that is community input yes but the town is conducting feasibility study Community yeah the town [Music] concurrently well that's not really Community input that was the select board that's the's decision that's true I just wanted to make acknowledgement that those two things and I don't know where they go that have to be on in the report to say why we haven't really come to any oh the ri is a big one obviously yeah I don't know where that belongs we have a recommendations piece and yeah but I I I think that that's a good thing because it's not just the select board it's other um yeah yeah so that can stay right can we leave that there the last finally the town is I think that's the right place for that yeah so just yeah just take out the that goes under what and and how about this the town is Con currently conducting a feasibility study that potentially places the reading Center for active living within the original 2.5 AC the final yeah that's good that's important yeah but yeah that decision hasn't say it again did you get that Jackie yeah she did yeah she's good God you're hearing person yeah okay Community survey results we're ready with this one yeah so the only thing that I would like to say maybe on this page um is can we just say um how many people responded and if is there so I don't know if it would go before this that the number of respondents and the demographics of the respondence I think that's important to not rather than just so that would be an additional slide yeah this on a slide or just a sentence well do we have it as a slide no no but we do have a slide with no but we do have demographic information we do have a slot well we do not a slide but we talked about this I asked you so there is that um PDF piece that has the demographic I think that's important you want to start with that instead of question one like respondents and or responses and um demographic information yeah I think that should be the first one I forgot to put it in this because it is important to see how many do do we get like 1,800 responses 1,727 and who they were you know what the age groups and right so unless we want to add verbiage to these this is the actual results so I don't know if anyone wants to add verbiage to either one of these slides with the actual results you know you know we calculated should should um guess I want to say it's obvious but since we're going over this should after outdoor on question two should it be indoor Recreation Center because that's what that's I think it's how the survey was does it actually say indoor no it says Recreation Center um it does say recreation center and then a parenthesis it said it looks like it said indoor wait yes it did it did it did or it does it does in the survey itself oh yeah okay that's what I mean not in here so then we should add that yeah yeah right it says it over on the right yeah I just have this open I don't have the actual results open I just have this so we're good with this yeah Andrew yeah this looks good okay uh we're on to swc overview page no not yet not yet question we done with the survey stuff oh oh question three oh okay we were going Slide by slide okay so question three same looks looks fine right yeah all right swack overview so this is where Andrew made some graphics Graphics good job Andrew that some of these we could move up to the start with this I'm Wonder yeah yeah I figured that would go earlier but we'll just keep it in place until till today so yeah I think we can move or it could stay here but would make sense of you earlier we don't need the text we're talking about what's on the screen now yeah um I think that map would be great up at the top which map the one that we're looking at now the top of what the top of the presentation the very top of the presentation okay so the whole slide SW Overview at the top corre that makes sense so we know what we're talking about yeah so under swc formation seem like that should go right after that between the formation and the charge yeah formation overview charge yeah um me I think I don't know how much it matters but it having it here then going with all the other slides kind of makes sense okay true or have it twice I don't know I don't I wouldn't want to move it here I'm okay with having it twice yeah as a graphic as a graphic but it flows really well it does flow from here so I think yeah leave it we can leave it sure this this a great graphic this overhead because yeah I've always said the zani property right there's probably a more formal way to say that I've always referred to it as a z property even at town meeting but what does that mean the Z property right right I know what it means so do you still want it copied with the other ones or okay we'll just leave it yeah so this one though because we've already done the swep overview this is really the property overview right yes I think does need another yeah yeah so I but this slide that we're looking at is just the original charge this is still just the original charge and and that is no it's it's all the land it's all the land it's all of it the original charge is just the bottom under the next to the ice arena that was the original charge this is the whole the field the Andrew this slide 13 or whatever around right now that's the whole that's the whole property that was purchased right those are the two properties that were purchased that were purchased in 2019 yeah correct yeah and the following one is the zoom in on just just the just our original charge right with' noted that that whether or not there are in contaminants we left as an unknown all right okay so then I have a question what is if you go back to swc overview what is the dotted p incline that other the land the property shape there was like five acres and 10 acres there was two there are three pieces of property outlined here there are the bottom one I highlighted the area that we focused on but the dotted one is the full property line that was purchased sou per Ice Arena okay and the so the dotted one is the property and the solid line is the buildable land is that correct because the one parcel id0 4159 that's not buildable correct correct buildable portion of it say that again there is a small buildable portion of it but it's it's landlocked we can't I thought I thought it was Upland from that Andrew isn't it maybe not but I thought North I thought there's a that partial ID the 0415 I think there is a part of it that's buildable but you can't get there unless yeah right wherever that dry area is that that truck has gone over several times with us it's I said I'm not I don't know exactly delineation but I'm pretty sure most of it is north of this yeah so the differentiation either way is that all of the pink outlines yeah the property and the solid pink outline build is what we were requested goes to the next slide which goes to the next slide our was our original yes right yeah so this is the that's that now it went from solid to dotted so that is little conf the next one right yeah did you want to change the title yeah it should probably say property overview I like that better than over because right yeah so what should the title of this be constraints that's the next three slides are really the constraints yes and it' be property constraints right yeah I so after after the first slide where it says zy land purchase I don't like using Zan all over the place because we purchased it it is now our property so I would I like property constraints because it's outline There It Is Our Land it is not Z land so what happened to the slide that was the whole overview one it's above it one above it you oh yeah but I think we're gonna move that back down to yeah yeah that's staying back down right yeah yeah do flow better yeah yeah okay okay property oh wait was okay so the and then property constraints contaminants yeah we don't need constraints twice constraints constraints is in every slide that's okay we can okay all right can we take out yeah so property constraints why why does it say 3.8 Acres buildable when we determine that it's 2.5 acres that's my bad my my research said uh 3.8 clearly I misread that land that is right there in that slide is I shouldn't say is most likely is four acres and then from that four acres it went down to 2.5 no I know but the slide says 3.8 buildable that's what myad so it actually should be three 2.5 not 3.8 yeah okay okay what exactly okay so yeah okay constraints well so the first the first slide above well aren't these two pretty much the same like do we you want it in one slide yeah I I don't think we need the first one that like that's pretty what he was doing was when you do a presentation you you keep yeah you keep adding to it so it makes sense okay because then people yeah he knows he knows how to use this program I okay that's fine and the other thing too that the first slide shows Elijah area and this one that all right that's fine you did a great job Andrew thank you so then again it just needs to be 2.5 buildables and my recollection of the Wes Samson survey is uh contaminants question mark is correct but it was surface contaminants because they did not drill well we don't know what don't know we made the decision they they said specifically that most likely there are surface contams meaning you don't gas oil they don't know what's that because go further there could be more no no I know it could be more it has to be question mark because we don't know we don't know no no I'm okay with the question mark I'm saying from Wesley Samson it was surface contamin well I think from their Vision they knew that there were at least surface contamin they were assuming that there surface contaminations of the previous and what they might expect but 2.5 on that side too okay I just can't see it okay so you guys this really helps understand that that yeah it really does Andrew you did a great job so where do we I know okay so going back to the top one where you see mostly green okay um right after property yes that one do we not need to this isn't all of our property a and you know what we should probably iner there needs to be something that shows what is actually possible buildable property what about and I didn't catch this before um but what about another slide that shows that exhibit a that the that the sweat charge expanded too right because from this slide like I I see it says right reading rifle and revolver Club I don't know how much of this land belongs to them I don't know how much of CED swamp North is buildable but we did have some information about that so that's there is a um there is a map that was given that conservation gave us gave us of so we don't want to have the land we don't want to have I don't think we want to have a map that shows the whole property but we want to have that map he show the pool it's actually um oh that's a great map yeah it's um yeah yeah the colors the colors a so if you want to add exhibit a in what is it exhibit a from that charge when they say exhibit a that's exhibit a when we expanded the charge that's actually in the expanded charge okay that's what we need because this this doesn't show the rest the rest of it but it also does yeah so we need that to show property overview maybe the next slide that can be so was that on the website or was that in one of that it was under the swc usable land exhibit so um I I want me to email it to you sure March Andrew Andrew's got it okay I don't have it on I'm trying to find it I definitely have it somewhere yeah let me um if Nancy has it accessible be make sense though because I overlaid it on top of the aial um I just didn't add to this to these slides that I sent here we go here we go what it was from the May 30th it was in the May 30th 2023 packet packet thank you I just emailed thank you so many folders I'm like which one9 and I'd be okay if you just wanted to leave a marker and insert that later so we can move on yeah do we want to still keep that oh look at you you're so fast but are we keeping the other one too because I do like I like them both can we yes yeah yeah they're they're both useful because it because that shows but the other one also shows theu this is the one that belongs up at the top yeah well and I was even thinking I mean it's stylistically it doesn't look quite the same I was thinking about putting it after the one about the constraints because there were all the constraints original charge it is and then the recommendations and the subsequent Maps kind of relate to what we can do in that whole area and that relates to that map yeah so after this one yeah to say then and this would be property overview expanded charge I think this particular one would be would be okay to have the two spots no but that the Z it's it's but the zni purchase was a very specific small area so that needs to stay with um Andrew's picture of the green the part about what the Articles were that goes with what he has the lamb purchase in 2019 and that is sort of property overview expanded charge so I would say the first one is the zeny land purchase town meeting with what he says and then the expanded CH yes that goes with that that text goes with that picture and then property overview expanded charge you know as directed by select board on March or whenever that was expanded charge3 May wasn't it may may 2023 it was um May I think May 16 2023 I think if I don't know if it'll work but I think I would put this one after the three constraints because that's what why we expanded the charge exactly exactly that's a good point yeah so we were so we were so Bound by this off yeah yeah right right yeah that's a good idea is everyone okay with that better yes perfect is that what you saying yeah can we can you just like go through a little bit sure on that so we can see how Okay property overview yeah title and then Z purchase right that's what exactly it was it was the article for any purpose and then what goes next we jump property constraints how oh yeah okay go ahead how about one of the other property constraints is size I mean there's just you know size that is why we expanded the charge because there's not that that much land you want that can we put that on as a fourth bullet point property constraints can four one yeah can we add that sure you want lot size property size um and develop uh buildable buildable I don't know uh what would you say buildable space buildable space sure buildable little buildable space limited limited build okay and then what's the next slide and then the is expanded charge yes expand okay so that do we need to add more text because that shows limited space property overview or just say well for anybody looking at it who might be kind of spatially challenged um it might be good to specify that it repeating what we did above where it includes the baseball field so expanded charge and then the bullets includes baseball field closed it now um area parking area behind Burbank Arena small area at the entrance basically you know just describing those things that aren't the Vernal fools area small area on the left side you put north of entrance or something that's uh next to 18 Sim way is actually that's okay you want to call small area at 18 Simon's way 18 Sim adjacent to 18 Sim way that address that's about it yeah that gives an idea on to recommendations okay what slide is that where okay that right so I don't know if okay this slide looked better at one point in time I know I use Keynotes so I don't know if it's because I went through me back to you but um the original your original thing Jackie had those has had the um rectangles as kind of neat little blobs and somewhere where when we were P it before back and forth it turned into rectangles and I didn't know how to put it back that way oh I'm not saying you need to do it now but they were I'm just saying it did look better in the original one more like a you the little shapes instead of the rectangles like little jelly beans jelly beans which made the kind of the the spread like kind of kind of in the swiggles kind of make more sense um but this is fine the five core things yeah I I think those are five core things that we talked about last so are they all I mean would you consider a senior community center a recreational use I I would and um but we're really talking about the the recommendations the use recommendations right so how about taking off recreational just saying use Rec use um or even um possible options for development well what was our charge I want to just keep comes from it I looked at our charge does say to give possible options for development and that is because do nothing or pass massive space did come up high so that wouldn't be a development that would be up leave it alone yeah so recommended options yeah recommended options I take off for development yeah because all we are clearly recommending some development then instead of senior community center wouldn't that be the intergeneration CER Liv okay thank you Center for active living SL pick ball um pickle ball gets its own category I you can put it other plac yes if you read through you can put it it can it's compatible with many so Andrew yes how do you feel about one of the the top answers being conservation land Green Space and that not being there because I I do so that is why I feel like you know that was one of the high that was one of the high highly ranked options my thought if you go back to the property overview map Clearly say this but that land below the area that we've been focusing on from talking with the the commission with Chuck Tyrone he's under the impression that land will be donated to conservation okay it's never clearly stated anywhere we've never really talked about it but um so I've always felt like there is conservation conservation is getting something D something substantial out of this but not specific area that we've been talking about I don't think it hurts to put it on this ch I don't either and and and you know passive space can also be re I mean or you know the other walking trails things like that which is not necessarily conservation land but that also came up we could add um I'm not sure there' be an additional kidney space but we could add something down at the not at the very end but after the slide that says multi- recre multi-use recreational facility we could add another slide that says future conservation that says what Andrew essentially says what Andrew just said that much of the land that is not developable we recommend gets put into conservation that's great formally put into conservation yeah I'd rather see that than this two and a half acre area be for that yeah kind of that in formally say yeah I know I just asked so it would be at the end of that so not there but after multiuse recreational facility yeah oh so just add one slide all the way down add a slide all the way down at the end so after what's uh after slide 25 yeah would be a new slide it says conservation oh no don't change that one yeah yeah you did that yeah yeah sorry she added the slide yes sorry finally and the bullet would be um recommend putting non- buildable area into permanent conservation and the second bullet would be ranked highly also ranked highly on the survey um and then I'm sorry was the second one also hied I would just say also ranked highly highly ranked on this survey okay I don't think there's a dash okay in soad of into should we put convey conveyed non buildable area in yeah in in area conservation yeah conservation division commission or division what is it I don't know what we are Department no it would be commission usually commissioner yeah yeah you guys are the Conservation Commission yeah I know we are but but is I mean it the doesn't go to the commission it goes to the department or no it goes to the commission the ones that are in charge of managing it just like Recreations well we got shock they don't own it they're in charge of charge tells them right but land is yeah but land is conveyed it doesn't it's not con conveyed to a commission yeah I mean the the conservation does own land like materic cabin is owned by conservation but I'm not sure the formal entity that owns it right it's the it's the town department or are you saying it the commission owns it it's not like the yeah I know yes not the commission I'm saying it's like it's it's conservation land right so it's not just Town owned conservation actually our website says the conservation commission not a department there's no Department there's conservation division division but it says the conservation Andrew did you know you do this the Conservation Commission protects the manages readings wetlands and conservation lands I mean the way around it would be to say um convey non-buildable area to you could either say to the to to the conservation division or to lower case permanent conservation just the concept I mean writing over land stress can happen right right there we go okay how does that work for you Andre you know I wanted to bring it up Ear but I I have present this to the commission because I told them I asked them if they wanted to see it before it goes to this to the select board and they said yes um and Chu's been involved with the chu Tyrone has been involved so I'm okay with that if he has other ways of wanting to write this particular sentence that's probably yeah yeah that'd be good okay all right so we added a slide right all right so multi all right so now we go back to multi-purpose multi-purpose fields what does the last bullet point I I don't know who's in charge of this can be combined with other elements at Simon's way property I wrote that and the point is just like many of these things it doesn't displace another potential use that this use can multipurpose can work together maybe say can yeah that the idea can work together with other potential uses you want me to change that no I no it's fine I was just wondering what then when when you get to Andrew's next set of fabulous maps that all kind of comes okay yeah good move on I think one of the things we have to say here is it has been identified by many Town boards that this is the only right the the the most preferred or most prefer what are really the only whatever you want to say right location for pickle ball points what about uniquely suitable location yeah that sounds good well I don't think unique but unique but I think we need to acknowledge that this really is the only place yeah I think so too because we can't put it the parks oh oh yeah um I see what you're saying how the other ones um this is another one where we should say no other suitable location has been identified we're saying this is a suitable location because the sound is unlikely to negatively impact NE uses and another bullet point another bullet point is that there are no other suitable locations how about saying in the second bullet point how about only suitable location for new courts identified in town comma as sound is unlikely to negatively impact neighboring uses sure yeah okay so only suitable location only suitable location for new car c ports identified in town Comm as sound is unlikely to negatively impact neighboring use okay camer or NE or neighborhoods it's not a it's not a neighboring use it's a neighborhoods okay is that okay is this one where the um there's no neighborhood there why are we saying neighborhoods because it's unlikely to negatively impact like the other places the other ones are likely to impact neighbors right neighbors okay yeah I yeah neighborhoods doesn't make sense to be more specific I'm getting kind of to the point of the many Town boards is this to the recreation department or committee also so Recreation has recommended or we didn't take a vote so it is not an official vote but Recreation has said that they support support also said it the finance committee has also said it so and we said it it hasn't been officially voted on but it has been so that I mentioned at every be really careful then it's I think we can say I want to be careful to not convey for posterity that right everybody's vot I mean you know finance committee was they talk about money they don't say what the best place for is but they have discussed as it is uniquely yes I think that exactly explained so you can make that second bullet even a little longer it's the only suitable location for new courts identified in town as discussed by several Town boards and then maybe go back to the ne and turn the next part of the sentence into a separate bullet to say the sound is unlikely to negatively impact neighbors you want to sub to that yeah like that and then get rid of the last one here yeah yeah okay um did you see the town that just spent a half a million dollars on pickleball courts that are now closed down like within the past couple of days do you know where was that I forget but it was in the globe like two days ago brain brain I think it was brain TR yeah they just spent a half million dollar poor planning and who knows what I know all right okay are we good with this one seniors what should active Living Center again consist wrong thing sorry consist that or Center for active living is to be consistent what do we do in the other slide Center for active living that's is that we did the one right [Laughter] thing so it's not just location under review by recal gets also under review by the feasibility study Oh I thought recal was the one that's doing the feasibility study well they hired they hired yeah they they um we the board the SL board vot on it but recal was behind it okay so how about location under review what if you said feasibility study being conducted perfect perfect I wouldn't say conducted say maybe not even coordinated it's to be a different word because they're not conducting it okay be a different word being led yeah and the Council on Aging also has a strong yes yeah um V in this and presence yeah so you could say and counsil on Aging after committee that makes sense yeah now that that's not true the second bullet isn't quite true because oh I see I see never mind I read it wrong do are you sure about that I don't know I guessed I mean to my knowledge I I was as I was writing this up I was thinking about our discussions and I was thinking about what are some differentiating use differentiators among these and this one did come to my mind that this one several like pickle ball well unlike pickle ball let me let me bring this correctly pickle ball we just discussed this is like the only place that it seems that's been identified where it seems like it could go to put new courts to put new courts um and you know in order multi use recreational fields to my knowledge there's there's there's no other sites that are feasible under consideration and when I got to this one I thought well okay a differentiator is that there is a feasibility study going on and it is considering two other locations neither of which have been identified as appropriate for the other uses so the philosophy here that I suggest to the committee is that it is even though it wasn't our evaluation criteria it wasn't one of our evaluation criteria um is at least framing out here are some uses that could go at Simon's way that can't go other places and at least presenting that to the select board it is I think the consideration we're okay with that any other comments Andrew you go with this I I like the intent of it yeah yeah so I'm good dog park next um just to Center for active living can we put Senior Community Center in parentheses just so that people it is kind of code isn't it yeah Center for active living is like not yeah for posterity put in parentheses Senior Community Center so it's clear actually that's really good because we're concerned about the seniors needs the 60 plus needs being recognized through this process specifically specifically and a center for active living doesn't really say say that yeah okay we want to edit this one too yes that would be great do we need to say the grant opportunity is passed oh well oh is an asterik you know what we we don't know that there aren't other grants right so let's just leave it because there could be something else yeah I was thinking about that one too but yeah well we could say considered by swc in context of Grant opportunity at the time there are either one is fine either either one doesn't matter um okay I'm okay with everything else on this I don't know if anybody wants to make changes or anything Andrew go with dog park slide it looks good okay we on the multi-use recreational facility do we need to put as a headline multi-use indoor recreational facility or do do you want just leave it Recreational facility we should be joint that's right well well no it really wasn't no it was it wasn't specifically RFI came back with a building yeah and so yeah in the description I think I I think it says including indoor fields and courts Aquatic Center walking Track yeah the RFI we it there is a possibility that we could negotiate a building with a field and pitball courts so I I just why does the fourth fullet Point have a question mark because this this is an indoor building this is I I think because um because I think it's unclear right is is this building is the recreational facility going to be everything or can you you know if would the select board want to do that plus squeeze in an outdoor recreational field or squeeze in a dog park I put a question mark there because I think it's an open question okay because you might need all for parking in the nothing else yeah you know parking alone it's like sure if you did a parking a multi- level building you could fit parking and all this but if you're it will be all one level that would displace some of the other I think the headline should be multiuse indoor Recreational facility because that's I know that's not what was in the RFI and then it just says request for information response received and then they present it what they present it but if this for this slide we're talking about all indoor uses unless I'm wrong right and that last bullet I want to call everyone's attention to I I I took some license of authorship there based on our discussion at the last meeting where there seem to be that that was specifically mentioned so I put that in there based on what I heard yeah they still haven't said anything for formally about no to a second sheet but it's well the committee talked about that last time well you weren't here saying yeah if we do that we want to have different facilities not just more yeah yeah yeah yeah that's fine yeah and didn't we also say the same thing about an aquatic center as well like we didn't don't have an aquatic center well I mean this I mean the why we didn't want ice I wouldn't I mean I'm not exactly sure that there isn't a need for another ice rink then we certainly heard that there was need for more ice so I wouldn't say that I would necessarily say don't duplicate I would say there has to be a demonstrated need yeah there was from the survey results because all the hockey parents how do we know that that isn't truly what it is because we just got this right we can't edit that survey don't know so would we say rather than um maybe just rather than duplicating ice we really don't want to see that area used for a second I is Serena we really don't I'm sure we don't but I don't know that we can say that because if that is what the town wants yeah I don't know that that's what the town wants we make that decision because we don't know that that's that's why I'm throwing it out there that's what I heard our recommendation was when we IGN us okay with leaving that the way you wrote it we recommend recommends creating multiple uses rather than expanding or duplicating ice drink I'm that I mean I you know if we have so many other demonstrated needs that's what we talked about then yeah a second she an ice person so I don't care but I just get a little worried when we throw out that we're going to say no ice right right we recommend but we could say we recommend uh multiple uses uh over duplicating what is existing or duplicating existing uses something like that that would be our Our Hope at this time yeah at this time there you go sure kind of yeah perfect right right yeah like if more information were to come to light or situations Chang the select board wouldn't be going against what we said if they considered information I mean that's took what eight years of discussions to build the five years of discussion and then four years of building for Wellsley so yeah who knows okay everyone good yeah on to possible scenarios possible scenarios can we um can we change scenario to possible options for development scenario really just say possible options not development just op options okay did Andre do these yes nice Graphics y yeah I like these good thank you there telling the story we want to tell yeah so I I obviously I kept it kind of high level just using the text so that you know it's just multi-purpose Fields but we we'd have other schematic drawings from that SV design that show yeah yeah we know we know what I mean we know your intent and then if anyone ask a question I think we whoever is presenting it can can explain it I like this better than the schematics because um it doesn't box thinking in what fits in a puzzle I like it too yeah is hockey you mean field hockey not ice hockey right well I just took some of the labels from one of the schematics they wrote hockey I'm yeah you know they probably meant field hockey yeah okay multipurpose field that would be F talk field talking and then instead of senior community center should be that's in parentheses living oh active living yeah yeah I just tried fitting Center for active living in the graphic and that's a bit much oh go yeah so if we could keep the senior center somewhere that'd be nice yeah better that way yeah and I for anybody who hasn't been part of these conversations the center for active living could be interpreted easily interpreted as the recreational facility and be confused with that so I think it is kind of keep the language synonymous with something like a Senor Community Center like obviously so Jackie right do you want to get rid of that senior oh you want to leave it that way okay yeah we're leaving it yeah okay okay we get we on to pickle ball quotes number three I just did a a Google Earth measurement of that parking lot and got about one and a half acres I didn't put a box of the whole parking lot Andrew that overflow bar parking area yeah but but not the area needed for pickleball courts no okay just just the parking lot right gotcha thank you yeah yeah and the reading pickleball Players Association is taking away the idea of temporary so we can yeah that that was proposed at one time and then they regretted that get rid it just temporar they don't want right I don't want to waste their money even though temporary at this property could be eight to 10 years yeah that's good is that the right name now they keep changing their names or or is the website name keep changing is it reading pickall 501c3 is pickle ball players it changing the Facebook page name yeah okay they keep changing the Facebook page name but it's rppa y That's it who's hosting an event on April 7th um is actually one word I think it is yeah oh you have it it's one word now it is yeah now it is all right are you okay with this I'm good number three yeah I was looking at four yeah like Heather was saying I kind of took Liberty because they proposed a pool with a hockey rank um I Chang open gy because uh when we did have him talk to us he said he was open to that as well so right yeah I think that's good and Polo it says Polo po po just kidding all right water we good here guys everyone this is good do it all I love this Andrew you fit the the dog park in over there that's where it would go generally yeah need to think big that's what you were saying y yeah big all right guys we go with that one that last one do it all I think that's good yes no maybe that's great all right um methods to achieve recommend ations Karen and Chuck are doing that thank you Karen Chuck we have three different vers we can comine know yeah I'm good with starting with Karen and Chuck and seeing what we wanted to add from the other ones so yeah so the stakeholder fundraising we have that's great already the grants maybe so the second one Heather and Andrew um the grant you yeah I threw in just some um somebody asked me before for the grants um yeah that we can add those specific yeah like Community Resources I just to save space we might want to move the stakeholder fundraising over to Community Resources because that is a community resource right or maybe not it doesn't matter but I just suggested there were two well two two plus maybe um there's a program called the massachus slanta water protection fund grants that can be used for recreation um there's another one and if if we wanted to save space we could take out the Parkland Acquisitions and Renovations for communities program for um it's really for smaller communities um and I think we're limited to only like uh either 10 or $25,000 but oh for grant money yeah for for for the park grants and then I threw in there um we aren't a community preservation act Community but if we were those funds could absolutely be used for this stuff right and so I thought it might be worth mentioning that so will we have utilize that grant writer to research the grant so you're are offering some additional specific opportunities yeah so we could just that column could be wider yeah and so bringing in Heather and Andrew's specific rants into that column we are we just using trying to combine all three now is that what we're trying to do yeah yeah so we pretty much got everything from here right yeah yeah so okay are you taking them all and putting them up together do you want them all on I well I like um Karen and Chuck's taxpayer funding funding through the operating budget um so or debt capital and and I'm not crazy about Carlos develop a plan to ask town meeting to fund in phases I think that it's important that any projects that go forward really get onto the capital plan or you know that they need to go through that process so I think that that's important too yeah they're both essentially the same thing um it's just clear that it's taxpayer funded right what I wrote or what well I couldn't tell is that town manager or town meeting town meeting yeah okay develop a plan but I so that was a little unclear I do think that it's important that we state that you know my my my intent with my intent was this is how Birch Meadow's going do it in phases yeah we're not not doing Birch Meadow all at once that's that was my intent and I understand the breaking it down in phases but Birch Meadow was on the capital plan for a long time I'm not I'm not against Capital plan thing I'm saying I'm I'm just explaining that TM means town meeting not Town manager and that my frame of mind was how Birch meow's gone we we developed the the the the consultant made the vision for um Birch meow at some point even though it was talked before that and then there was the what cost this much what what all the different phases and this is a million this is five million no I I know I know how it developed but but I'm so Carl are you okay that's a big thing to to necess to possibly bite off are you okay Carla simplifying that to the way that Karen and Chuck phrased it just say would be taxpayer funded through the operating budget or depal debt or capital solusion because I'm imagine yeah the same thing no no I know yeah and again I'm not I didn't I didn't I I think I submitted mine first I didn't get to see theirs right right could I make a suggestion maybe we have three slides one slide is community read how we get there one Community Resources two public private partnership three um grants and that way we can take all of these grants or other options that we have there on another slide so it's not as busy not as busy because I can't read this this is just way too much yeah so really I think we could do it in two slides because Community Resources and public private fit on one slide okay fine yeah two columns yeah with that and then and then under Community Resources I don't think we should put the additional stakeholder fundraising because that's actually under grance and stakeholder fundraising yeah so that's one slide those two columns and then third yeah and do we want to label it something other than how we get there how was it in framed in the that's what I'm looking up right now to see you know uh hold on it might have been um charge let say uh deliverable the committee shall begin its organ to set submit multiple options for development recommendations using an evaluation scheme to be determined by the committee no later than August 31st unless another date if approved by the select board the committee Jackie development recommendations so the deliverable is yeah the committee will offer recommendations for potential funding options if pursuing public development so these are the funding options yeah yeah I like how we get so how you do you I do like it can we put slash funding options because I think boring well how we get there is exactly how we get there well it's not exactly how we get there there will be you know many public meetings that it has to go through that's obvious though yeah yeah it's obvious we could we find it do like decent little around there to say how we get there and then what we mean is you know some ways to pay for it that is the important right there's a lot yeah potential funding because there's there's way more than what we're listening to right so I don't want you to think this is the only way we're going to get there um can we make can we capitalize how we get there absolutely um under public private partnership we say Edge Sports out of ring I mean it could be a a new or a better framed RFI or RFP RFP yeah could be submitted because the what we submitted was just off the cup it wasn't really what I mean it's got to be developed you got to get somebody in there who can write an RFP but that would be the next step of that next step of that how do you want to word it uh hire a consultant to write RFP for better results or something like that I don't know I don't know what I'm saying it's like the RFI that we it's just a request for information I know don't we do the rfps we don't hire someone do we okay that's fine no I'm just asking I don't know yeah yeah I have no idea I don't think we hire anybody um you say issue a more detail yeah yeah right I don't think it needs to say Edge Sports because we don't know that it was we would you know public private partnership issue RFP issue yeah detailed but keep pursuing Edge Sports the book hasn't been closed yet we need to keep pursuing Edge Sports as well there a possibility right and they responded to us I'd hate to not have them on this list yeah but I would like to say that issue uh better are not that yeah I would put that above Edge Sports because yes issue detailed are develop an issue detailed RFP once determined I me we did we just asked right I no I know what you mean so our charge was for an RFI it wasn't for an RFP yeah okay so what do we have under Community Resources taxpayer funding Andrew are you following the bouncing ball over there how we how we doing I'm still with you I'm still trying to figure out how to get your develop the the phasing thing idea that you have Carlo because I think that's separate from the tax fairer funding and I like that community resource but I'm having a hard time um so on Heather and Andrews it's a darker gray I'm having a hard time seeing that because it's white on a mid-range background so I don't know what to do about that but it's it's kind of hard to say so could Andrew could it be developed master plan for phasing something like that with potential phasing resources potential phasing of development yeah master plan for potential facing master plan under Community Resources I I community resource I mean it's it's a different thing this is about paying for it this is about paying for it and those other things that need to happen like developing a master plan and having you know Community input meetings and and potentially renegotiating release with the rentia get and go through the recreation department yeah certain things have to happen right yeah well then I think those things should be listed yeah because they're important but there H okay so how we get there these are potential funding options but how we get there next steps like through Community involvement or or through you know select board mandate or whatever I'm not sure but those are processes this is no I think oh okay I don't know what you're doing Jackie but yes there's a difference between funding and processes so maybe after funding we do next steps how we get their next steps or something well so who's creating a master plan wait before this it has to be submitted to and present it to the select board that's the next step yeah that is the next step yeah right how we get well yeah do we need to write that as we're saying it to them yeah we should yeah okay all right we're done here yeah all right all right I track that I track yeah okay what's the second step and it cons developing a master plan and phasing options is it really up to the select board to figure that out I yeah but we want to tell them what we think they should be doing next that's yeah know I think that's I think that's fair I think it is fix they want to know okay we got all this now what do we do it's always good to say okay next steps we're presenting it to you justel a master plan just works or potential basing of incorporate incorporate and not our findings but incorp incorporate I think is a better word than consider right wa because this is if we're going to do anything here it's going to be part of capital planning in a master plan right right so we don't want them to consider it we want them to incorporate it incorporate it into the master plan correct that's but they have to develop a master plan I know we have Capital planning right but we've been talking about it on on the board right Mark's been a big advocate for that and I think it's great and it's just we haven't you know we you know we you know this so many things that we have to do you know we're talking about CPA we got the the active Living Center we got like and all these things need to be done so I'm glad you you you brought this up Carla because I was not thinking about delaying on this until a townwide master plan gets developed I was thinking more of like developing a a what was it called for brch metal like a plan for the site that would then be phased um oh yeah I'm trying to as opposed to saying okay was the Birch Metal Master Plan specifically the Birch metal I was thinking about like a Simon's way master op that's fine yeah this is its own property right it's own site wait what is I can't what does it say establish master plan that's good perfect um in concert with the recreation well it was the M it was the Birch Meadow master plan it was a subcommittee that was a subcommittee of the recreation yeah committee so say in concert with Recreation yeah that's a good Mi up well well is it with Recreation or is it or is it Celine aging or is it yeah we don't conserv yes with appropriate or board but I do really think that it really needs to the select board need to determine how this fits into priorities for the town right yeah but I think that's what they're going to have to do but the next that's their job when we hand this up that's their job but I think if they're going to develop a master plan it should be with appropriate committees or commissions or yeah we're not we're not we're not yeah no we and me not gonna do it alone right and then the other thing I was going to say is I like the idea of putting in there uh consider negotiating with Burbank Isa for use of property something like that whatever the negotia renegotiating lease or however you want to get there it yeah we want to make make simple but we would have to renegotiate the leas and right yeah amend not really negot renegotiate the whole no you would have to negotiate negotiation an amendment would require a negotiation no no right renegotiating means renegotiating all the terms of the lease excuse me you mean the renegotiate want a 5e lease no I want a 20 year lease that's renegotiate I like the way Jackie put it there though consider negotiating an amended agreement yeah that's fine yeah amend yeah that's fine yeah that's good what does it say I I can't consider negotiating amended agreement with Burbank Ice Arena for use of property consider negotiating yeah I think that's perfect consider negotiating amended agreement I don't think you need the amended I because you're not negotiating an amended agreement you're negotiating an agreement in order to amend it to use the property yeah consider negotiating agreement with Burbank Ice Arena for use of parking lot or parking lot property yeah it's not all of that I don't think we're negotiating and then with the last bullet fee utilize a grant riter to research grants I mean sure that's another step that they could take good I'm good for the the verbank go say for use of the Overflow parking lot oh good good catch yeah of over so here's the thing what this looks like is how we get there this is how we get to the the do it all and we're presenting options and I think the select board can say we're not interested in doing it all we're only interested in building a field and building picks like that's all we have so that with the master plan says establish Sim by Master well but that's what I'm saying you know and if you wait if you wait for a Simon Way master plan we're never goingon to have the fields or pickle ball you're never gonna have the fields or pickle ball you're just not because so is the next step for the select board to determine near and long-term priorities that's what I'm saying yes because if we might not get to a big master plan and an RFP for 10 years but if we want pick a balls and we want them Cross Court that is something that we could do in two to three years and so really select board yes I think we need need to decide whether they're interested in in you know short or long-term development there and maybe they don't have the bandwidth or the time or the energy whatever to to wait five or 10 years to develop it all in order to build pck board yes perfect good call and I think that's really important because otherwise what's the master plan how how is that different from what we've done right right perfect now it's dependent on what the select board has determined is perfect and it does you know to develop a master plan I mean it was the Birch meta master plan years years and years so if you're waiting for that Master Plan you're not getting your pickall you want me to switch established to develop um that's that's honestly that's why I that's that's I I kind of preferred the consider establishment consider I would say consider if they're gonna go big that's when we want the master right but if they say okay let's WAP out a field and some pickle ball court to side they have to have a master plan because you can put the pickle ball ports in the wrong place goes back to having to have a master plan because if they do want more than pickall there they need to know where it is and actually you at least need a sight plan you do you need a sight plan you at least need a sight plan but no know what what would solve pickle ball tomorrow unfortunately and it probably won't happen we we put it at the parks they have sound deafening paddles now that a USA pickle ball approved all right so that means we would have to supply the paddles you use the same ball the sound goes down in half it's a felt all right covered paddle right will the talent go for that I have no idea but for this company to develop this paddle and get approved by USA pickleball for tournament play one it was a huge step in a direction I haven't used it but I've played against people who use it and amongst the sound deafening it vibrates if you have tennis El like it vibrates less when you hit it because it's not a bang it's a thud so that that could solve the park problem but again that's another issue so I have another way with with that I have another way to phrase the third one of going back to establish we should how about establish Simon's way site plan or master plan in concert with appropriate Wars committees because honestly even if it's just pickle ball fields you got to figure out where the master plan is a big word yeah but site plan is a smaller yeah right right right right right right no no it's good that there's a lot of us here that the site plan is actually separate from the master right the site plan tells us what we have to work with are we just GNA do a site plan or Master still doesn't get us to that Master and that's why I'm saying it maybe remove consider again and just say establish either the site plan or the master plan well I like consider okay yeah I do yeah consider it's open-ended yeah means they won't do anything I mean they're all recommendations you know it's exctly you can't make them do anything and they point of of having a master plan so that you do know how to use that site yeah yeah exactly and if you don't know how you're going to use that site appropriately you make mistakes you can put pickle B back of and what I'm think and what I'm thinking about for the site plan I am put bringing my CPD to this is having that site plan go through of the appropriate committees will catch the parking needs even if even if it's just pickle B course we've got to figure out the parking these we've got to figure out the safety so i' say site plan and master okay all right don't say or say and master got do both I agree site plan review is incredibly important but you need even if it's a little thing yeah because you could have a site plan that shows all the property but what goes on it that's the master plan okay and yeah I'm thinking about just like when it comes to site plan review You've got the stuff that's going to go on right but you need the site plan first and then that that design which I call in the master plan okay I think we're talking about yeah we are all right when does considering the contaminants well you know don't even say that word yeah it's a tough one that's when the site plan comes well that's that's part of the site plan yeah yeah yeah that's at the beginning yeah I mean and you know the negotiating the agreement that that's further down the line too because we need to determine I mean I really like the way I really like the way um Andrew did this you know just a little a little more out side you know all right should we draw straws buck up on who's presenting or what are we doing committee you should go present and tell us when it's on the agenda so well yeah it's up to you guys I'm not I'm not nominating myself it's it's I'm not the best order here so uh it depends what Chuck's not here you guys want Chuck we've all in told you yes have you heard that word to that's funny I have no problem doing it yeah I would I would love to present to my own board but it's not up to me I'll just say and I'll do it but if anyone else wants to do it we can H wrestle or whatever you want to do no I think you should do it Carlo if you're that's fine I I I thank you I appreciate it and the ones that thing I caught in the minutes even though I wasn't here was the date is wrong uh March 6th is the day after the election so I know I know you guys did not meet the day after the election or is that the date when this was I think we didn't meet I think we did me February when I wasn't here I was on February vacation school vacation oh it was in February that's the meeting I this right that's where that date would mean right about reading Town Hall the date we met it was definitely February yep February 20th 21st right around that some so wait what do we did you move to want to minutes okay right so so what do we do before we finish up what happens are we gonna get um oh yeah excuse me good point Angela so I think if everyone's okay we can have one more quick meeting or we can have Jackie send us a final review it and I got to figure out how we end this meeting probably need one more meeting yeah one more because if anybody has any changes they shouldn't be making them without discussing them with the whole committee she she can say who the changes are from I'm fine but we can't discuss it even if she says that we still need to have a meeting to say we accept or we don't accept it okay fine so yeah so early April is that then we can vote to accept this Andrew you're going to present this to conservation right next Wednesday yeah so can I present this amended presentation we just worked on I think that's okay as a draft just as a draft yeah yeah that way if they have any questions so how does that work um because I need to get that to Chuck by Thursday so he has it as our packet for our meeting I can send you I'm just gonna make a few more tweaks just pre up a couple of slides and then I'll send it to you tomorrow morning okay and that's okay with you Carlo yeah please that'd be great okay so do we want um I'm trying to look at when my meetings would be on Tuesdays to do an off Tuesday what's today Monday is Monday Monday yeah Monday's we could do an off Monday we can do off W doesn't matter what day it is on for me I'm not TR I'm not traveling Wednesdays are good I'm away Trav April 12th to 24th which is not April vacation oh sorry I am away I'm away in California uh the week of of April 14th so okay I'm I'm out of the country and I won't be able when when are you going the 12th through the 20 5th I think 12th through 25th oh that's a long time should we shoot for the first week in April then guys that is that doable for April 1 what day is that that's a Monday it's a Monday H do you know from you're meeting first uh no we're not meeting on the 1 and I could do that Andrew any conflicts you're saying April 1 because I'm also Monday first I'm also fore the third that Wednesday if we like the Wednesday but one is the first is better for me I think that's good for me yeah um Chuck is first works for me April 1 this room is available that night oh good yeah then we can do s o'clock again want do earlier 6:30 7 okay 7's fine I'm bring a cake to celebrate my 2-y year anniversary my shoulder surgery a fools all right so texting my husband to look on the kitchen calendar because that's first okay I don't know if we want to move to accept the minutes of February 21st February 21st thank you is corrected second any any discussion all do a roll call vote uh Andrew yes Karen yes Angela yes Nancy yes Heather yes I guess I'll say yes I wasn't here yeah they were find me so future agenda is to discuss and finalize presentation MH right yes well it's to vote and approve our presentation yeah yeah discuss and vote Yes okay discuss yeah we don't think be right and uh you know public comment and then uh I'll figure out how we formally end this because I haven't ended um I the SL has to disband us after we give our report yeah how do we approve minutes I gotta figure how do we approve minutes Beyond when we start meeting I just go learn that that's all think you just have one meeting to approve your final set of minutes and then that's we could do a virtual meeting yeah right I don't know how it's done I I know no people have done it before us I know that so I'll just find out how it's been done um and and we also officially sunset in June June Jun so I mean do you want to officially end it or do you just want to let us Sunset that's something to ask too it's only much yeah I'll ask I'll ask and do we need a line item guys to vote me presenting no we don't need to vote for that no okay it's in the minutes you're presenting okay all right do I have a motion move to adjourn this evening's me meeting second second all right other seconds so roll call vote again yeah Andrew yes Karen yes Angela yesy yes Heather Carlo yes 6 Z thank you guys nice job that was good that was good thanks everyone thank you Jackie did Fabulous work for us thank you so much very good it's nice to see you in yeah I know 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