5-04 39 Summer Avenue. Um, and so we have a email from the applicant requesting that their applications continue to the next meeting. So, I get a motion to accept the continuence. Also move second.
All right. See that next time hopefully. All right. So then we move on to case number 2511 94 Oak Street. The zoning board of appeals will hold a public hearing in the select board meeting room at town hall 16 street ready Massachusetts on Tuesday September 2nd 2025 at 7 p.m. application with
Nancy Tuumi on behalf of the homeowner pursuant to national law chapter 48 section 9 for a special permit under vetting zoning bylaws section 6.3 700 703 and 73.2 to demolish the existing garage and build a new twocar garage
living space on existing non-conforming structure the non-conforming sideyard setback on a property located at 94 Oak Street map 10 lot 26 in writing Massachusetts unless there's an exception an objection I'll dispense with the reading of the butters list except to say that the
buyers were notified as were the following the select board the town clerk the police department fire department building department conservation commission health department assessor's office and insurance division CPDC and the members and associate members of the board of appeals as well as the planning boards of Wakefield, Lynfield, North Reading,
Stoneham, Wurn, and Wington. Testimony given before this board is taken under oath. So, if you think you may want to speak, please stand and raise your right hand. Somebody wants to speak on this case, you just stand up to the great. Um, and so I swear the testimony given by me before this board will be the truth, the whole truth, and
nothing but the truth. So, response just I do. I do. Great. Thank you. Yeah. So, present the case. That'd be great. Amanda, could you put that idea? I said, "Stop sharing." Sharing. Sorry. Of course, Kevin made that look really
easy. We had it all welloiled and then it stopped. Oh, well. Um, not it. Sorry. No, you're fine. Can you click the button I just clicked and it showed me? Did you say it was the shield or
something like that? Was that Yeah, I don't think there's a meeting ID anywhere else. So, I think you can go if you go to join.zoom. I do. I'm there. I just need the meeting ID and then it's 8380977.
2881. Great. And then I'll need the call. Just a second. 2054 65. 65. All right. Turn this on. All right. Oh, it says it's not the
correct password. Give that to me again. I think I found the correct spot. Oh, there it is. Sorry. Okay, there you go. 205 465. All right, let's try that. 20
4 It's not saying it's the correct password. All right, let's go back to the beginning. Maybe I didn't do this right. I'm so sorry. Try that. All right.
Zoom.share us. Thought it was easier to get the drawings up if I can. Well, we might just have to share that soon. Okay. Thank you. share
that one. There's a bunch of them together. Yeah, this is the one I was using. And then it is 838 0977 0977 281. All right.
Wow. And the median passcode 205 465. Y we got it. Thanks very much. I love it when it works. Okay, let us do this. Let me share dust
and then I am going to go to the drawings. All right, we can see this. That's great. All right, thank you very much. Hold. Let me grab my notes. So concentrating on that, get these together.
So this is first of all, I'm Nancy Tumi, the architect. Thank you for bearing me on this. Um, I'm here representing Leslie and David McGisac who own 94 Oak Street. Uh, they purchased the property in 2018.
Um, it's the house itself was built in 1934. It's on a corner lot. You can see this is the the um actual site plan. Uh the red is the main house. The blue is proposed. Um the lot is non-conforming.
The frontage is just barely non-conforming. And the existing side setback where the garage is is currently 8.9 ft. Um what we're proposing will be 9.2 ft from the
setback. Um what we're hoping to do if a special permit is granted is to remove the singlestory um garage. Let me show you the plans. So currently this is their current garage. There's a breezeway here and an extended
kitchen. So the intent is to remove this garage, add a new garage towards the front, still within the 20 ft to gain two cars, an extended kitchen and a better mud room. And at the same time, we're going to remove the back part of
the garage so that it will be extended straight and then towards the front. Um, just to give you a sense, it's all slap on grade crawl space. And then on the second floor, this will be a second floor addition. We will be extending out over the garage with a new bedroom and
bathroom. Uh this house was built originally back in 1934 um as two bedrooms on the second floor and at some point somebody put this wall in to make it into a smaller third bedroom. It's really very tight bedrooms
on both cases. So hopefully the intent is eventually to remove this, but at this point there's three bedrooms on the second floor. To give you a sense of what we're doing, we are adding at the same angle as the existing garage. We'll extend it. The
existing garage right now ends right here. We're extending it forward to gain that two uh twocar garage. And then we're extending the kitchen out with a half bath and a mudroom off of the garage to gain the space that they need
for not only the kitchen but to get the two cars in there. Um the intent of this, just to give you a second floor version, hallway, laundry, new bathroom, new primary bedroom over the front. Our
intent for this is to keep the same scale and uh feeling of the existing house. It's hard when it's on an angle to kind of see the whole thing at once, but we're leaving the roof line at the same height. We're angling the roofs back and away from the side to minimize
um the imposure of this on the neighbors. We have a this is the full height as the existing house and a rear dormer and we're holding the dormer back away from that side again to minimize the amount of space that's going up. So the existing garage is probably
somewhere in here and we're just raising it to be at the same height as the existing house and extending this um back dorma all the way across. Um there's a couple more elevations just to give you a sense. That's the back.
Looking at it from the corner with the neighbors. So the neighbor's side is here pulling things back. Roof goes away. Um so the twostory part of it really is just over the existing garage area. And again, as I said, pulling back
from the rear uh to minimize that from the backyard and to gain more space. Um, we designed this to really help make it feel as if it's part of So, it's originally a Royal Berry Wills Cape. I don't know if anybody know who's who
Royal Berry Wills is, but he was a very prolific architect of uh Cape Style homes, not only in Reading, but Wakefield and Stonem and quite a ways. This is a a original one. And so the intent is to try and keep the scale, the
feel of it, the look of it so that it looks as if it really hasn't it wasn't designed to be different. It was designed to fit um let's see the existing garage. Just a couple of ideas of why we're doing this. The existing garage, as is true of of garages in
those days, is not big enough to fit a normal car. I don't know. I I a side story asked my mother who was in those days and I said how can it fit those cars were huge and she said they were very narrow so these garages don't fit
our cars so uh the attempt is to try and get a garage that works. Um David the owner has back issues. So in the winter this faces north and the driveway gets extremely icy. Um, so to be able to pull
in and get in and out of that car is is really imperative for him during the winter. Um, and then again on the second floor, we're trying to gain that extra space so that we have three normalsiz bedrooms. Um, so that going forward, um,
the beds fit, kids fit, etc. Um, I think that we've done a really good job of getting this to fit the neighborhood. Uh, hopefully you've been around the neighborhood to see it. Uh, but most of those lots in that area are very small.
That was the time it was done before we had our zoning bylaws. Um, I do have a couple of pictures I wanted to show you of the existing house. This is that back with the existing dormer and we're taking this roof and extending it over
just to give you a sense. Um, this is that singlecar garage. It does come back pretty low towards the back. We'll be making sure that everything is back at the same height and level as the existing house. Um, and then this is the
front with that singlestory garage with the little mudroom and entry. And then this is more of the front. And then if I can, I wanted to give you a sense of scale so of the neighbors and how we fit in. This back half of the
house will be gone. So, I think that's an important thing to keep in mind. This is what it looks like between this neighbor and our uh proposed property. This is a very big tall house. Um, and then going to the
front, this is sort of the juosition of the two houses. The peak of this would not be any higher than what you're seeing here. So, I appreciate your patience and time and happy to answer any questions you
may have. Thank you. Uh, yeah. Questions for anyone on the board? I guess just uh just clarifying it is currently the current nonconforming building is currently sitting I believe
you said 8.9 8.9 ft from the side from the side. So that so it's already imposing upon that side. So, you're actually making it a little bit better by a few. A little bit better by by by by a couple inches there. And I should add that uh they have
received over 33 letters, I think, in counting of people in the neighborhood and surrounding neighborhood who who are in support across the street, uh behind them, uh on the other side of the street, and they did a great job of taking the drawings around and talking to people. So, hopefully you've seen
those letters, but they're they're pretty good. And I think um uh Bradley from my favorite uh attorney in town, wrote what a fabulous letter. I I really loved it. But anyway, uh just wanted to make sure that you knew that and obviously there's no extension in terms of the height or anything like
that as you mentioned. So I Yeah, I'm pretty comfortable trying to keep the peaks similar to the other peaks on the rest of the house as well. So, anyone else? When it comes to the garage, um, so the
proposed garage you're showing it has some existing driveway on the side there. Are you planning to keep the the drive the existing strip of driveway there? You going to make that grass or landscaping something different? I don't think there's a driveway on the side. Let me go to the um proposed. Oh,
oh, I see what you're saying. Right. This is wider than the the house itself. Are you think I don't think there's enough room in there to put a car? It's only 8 or 9.3 ft. Cars are typically 6 feet or so. So, um, are you thinking you'll be landscaping in there yet? Probably haven't gotten to
that point, but we like Yeah, I don't believe they could fit a car in there easily. Um, the fence is actually not on the property line. As you can see at the back, it's off a little bit, but there is no fence at
that location. So, um, conceivably they could squeeze something in there, but I'm not sure that mostly out of curiosity, you're going to be returning it to a permeable surface or not. So, yeah, probably permeable. Yeah, I think if if anything, the the two, you know, this driveway will probably widen itself
out to be the 20 ft at the front where the driveway meets the street. And then there is a door on the side. So, the intent is there'll be a walkway this way to get in, and most likely they'll make access to the fence back here, but I I'm not sure. They'll have to move that
fence a little bit further forward since we're taking out the back half of that or back quarter of that garage. Tiny garage. Yeah. For me, I looks like a pretty reasonable addition to me. So, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I um I mean you're not increasing
the non-conformity at all. In fact, you're very slightly decreasing it. Um and um and I appreciate the effort you've made to make it fit in and and um um your your photos and your your uh presentation clarified it for me. So, thank you.
All right. Great. Um so, let's go ahead and open up the public comment. Um before we do that though, I do want to note that we do have the letters that Nancy mentioned. Um, so we have one individual letter and then one that's a letter that a bunch of people assign them into. I forget actually which ones.
Oh, yeah. I think these two go together. So, these are Yeah. And I have another one here that's got stuck in that I should probably give you as well that came late. Let me let me add this to the Yeah, one more. Okay. Thank you.
Should I still say share or is um you guys leave it up for the top. Yeah. Um yeah. Anyone else who's in person want to comment? Sure. Go ahead. And if you just state your name for the record and Yeah. You don't Yeah. Go up there so I can hear you on that. Yeah.
My name's Kevin Mullins. Um I own the property at 100 Oak Street, the yellow house with my partner Verona Ki. Um, I'll just start off saying I appreciate the efforts by Mary. The house looks beautiful, the designs, and this pains
me to have to be the one person that has room and I some uh issues, but um we were presented with the plans. Everything seemed great. I was all on board. the past week or so, I've been kind of looking twinning my thoughts and
uh one of the things that we have issue with is um on that side of our house, we're going to be looking at a wall and a roof because it is going to extend out approximately 22 2t 3 ft forward from
the existing garage. So, it's going to block I mean, we're going to be out of our kitchen window. We're going to be looking at the side of a house or a roof. It's going to block a view from that side of our house to Oak Street. Um, it is lovely. The design I I'm I'm
completely, you know, it's well well done, but if you saw those pictures, which you did, it's very tight on that side. I I realized, you know, it's 9.2 2 ft from the existing property line, but it kind
of boxes us in on that side. On the other side of our property, we have a very large yard. But on the other side of the property, there's ample distance. And I, you know, realize our house was built in 1920. It's been in my family for 75 years. But, um, that's really the only
grievance we have right now. I we don't want to be the only people to hold it up, but if we didn't speak up, I you know, however the cards lie, but um I I don't know if the plan can be modified at all. I know they went to
great expense to get the plans. I don't know if they can move it towards the back of the yard 10 ft and shorten up the front entrance of the garage by 10 ft as an as a compromise. I I don't know if that's possible. I'm not an architect. Uh I am in construction. I do
know a few things, but um I'm not a designer. I'm not an architect. So um that's our biggest concern is looking out that side of our house. We're going to see a wall and a roof for more than 20 22 ft from what's existing.
So uh we have to come and and and voice our opinion and I feel terrible. I I don't want to dash anyone's dreams or you know it's it makes sense to them. I wish the houses were a little bit further apart and I wouldn't have an
opinion about this one way or the other. That's it. Sir, can I ask you a question? Sure. Thanks. Sorry. Um so if I'm understanding you correctly, you're not necessarily concerned about how far it is from your side lot, but you're concerned about how far it's extending towards the front,
which is further than it extends now. The existing garage has been there forever and it's a small garage for sure, but you know, it's there and we're used to it and it doesn't, you know, impede any views to the street
or the neighborhood on that side. The extension is going to be, you know, again, plus or minus 20 something feet and and it, you know, they're going to I don't care about the back. It's going to they're going to take off, let's say,
six or eight feet off the back to square it off, which makes sense architecturally. I don't necessarily have a problem going towards the back of the yard because it's all driveway on my side in our garage. So, like I'm not interested in looking into their backyard. I'm not
interested in looking into their house. And I'm sure they're not interested in looking into our house. So, that's that's what it is. Can I share a drawing? I did download the map, the GIS maps to kind of show
what the disposition between the two buildings is just so you can see. So, it's about 21 ft from this jut out. So, we're going forward and actually cutting off that back portion just so
you have that as a as a visual as well. All right. Is it going forward? Can you indicate how far forward it's going in relation? Sure. To say the driveway or maybe to to that line? Yes. So, if we if we if we look Yeah, that's a good point. Let me look at the
um plans again. Hold on. Um, if we go back to Yeah. to here. I know. 12 feet. Yeah. And actually, if we look at No, the best part is to go here.
So, um, it's 12 feet back. And, um, and if this is 24, it is probably about 20 feet forward, but we're taking off that that part. So, if we look at this GIS map just to kind of get a sense if I
can. Um, we are 12 feet here and then going back this way. So, it straightens out, right? So, it's probably uh it's I would think this driveway is a little bit different than what the other
one is, but I bet it's probably somewhere in here. Okay. Would be my guess. Okay. And I think this is is that a porch? I believe that's the a porch for them. So their their windows if Yeah,
I'm trying to get a sense myself of what the scale is of that. If we go back to the pictures, um that will just give you this is the porch that's 20 ft or 21 ft from the property line. So going forward, we're
affecting the porch. This gets affected. And let's look at um the side if we can. Let me see if I put those back. Did I do the rear? Here we go. So this if we go back
will impact more here than we would towards the front. So I I we when we looked at this, we deliberately chose that we were trying to keep this away from them. So the roof lines of where we have towards the front are actually lower because we're going up like we
would with a cape. The the peak is right where that garage is currently. So just to give you a sense, if we go back, we'd need to have that room on the second floor. So that will be a full wall going back, which would impact them, I would
think, more than it would be going forward, where we can tuck things under the eaves. So from an architectural standpoint, we thought this was the best way of mitigating some of that aspect. Okay.
Is there any other public comment? Anything else people want to say? Thank you. Uh yeah, I guess any other final thoughts from the board? No. Um, who needs to vote on this?
Oh, because we Yeah, because we one actually one associate member today. I associate. All right, I'll switch off. Yeah, that's fine. I'll Sounds good. Um,
all right. All right. Yeah, I guess I would say like the standard we have for this is to it not be substantially more detrimental to the community. Um I think in this case I don't see it as being substantially more detrimental. I think we put a lot of thought. So I do appreciate that. All right. Sounds good. Um does someone
want to make a motion? I will have to make a motion if I can snag the script from somebody. Thank you. So grab this here. I move to grant petitioner Nancy Tumi uh
a special permit under sections. Sorry, one second. Pull this up. Sorry. Oh, thank you. Great. So, under section 6.3, 7.0, 7.3,
and 7.32, uh, to demolish the existing garage and build a and build a new two-car garage with living space on an existing non-conforming structure with a non-conforming sideyard setback
as uh at the address uh oh I'm sorry thank you 94 Oak Street uh pursuant to the plans set forth by
Steven um Melick Melis Melis thank you uh and otherwise entitled uh assessors map 10 parcel 26 Reading, Massachusetts.
Uh, this special permit is subject to the following conditions. Petitioner shall submit to building inspector a certified certified PL plan of the proposed construction and proposed foundation plans prior to the issuance of a foundation permit for the work. The petitioner's final construction plans
for the new construction shall be submitted to the building inspector along with the asbuilt foundation plans prior to the issuance of the building permit and asbuilt plans showing the completed construction shall be submitted to the building inspector immediately after the work is completed
and prior to the issuance of an occupancy permit. Second. All in favor? All right. Thank you very much. We really appreciate it. Thank you. I'll stop sharing now that I have to figure that out.
It's appreciated though. Thank you. Thank you very much. Makes it easier, doesn't it? Thank you. So much. [Music] Congratulations. Thank you. [Applause]
Okay. So, let's move on to case number 25-12 18 Nwood Road. The zoning board of appeals will hold a public hearing in the select board's meeting room in town hall 16 street ready Massachusetts on Tuesday September 2nd 2025 at 7 p.m. on the application of
Vishia Silva on behalf of the homeowner pursuant to national general law chapter 48 section 9 for a special permit under reading zoning bylaw section 7.07.3 and 7.3.2 to construct a portion of existing non-conforming structure with a
non-conforming side effect on the property. message is an objection. I'll dispense with a reading. Sorry, I think I missed half of that. So that doesn't make any sense. That up special application. Yeah,
that's what I was confused about. Sorry, I just need to get the last little section of this. Um, to demolish an ex existing No, sorry. All right, here we go. To construct a site of the regular property located 18 No, such as map 11. Yeah, of lot 18 in
Ready, Massachusetts. Sorry about that. Um, missing a line. Unless there's an objection, I will dispense with the reading of the butters list except to say that the voters were notified as were the following. Select board, the town clerk, the police department, the fire department, the building department, the conservation commission, the health department, assessor's
office, engineering division, CPDC, and the members and associate members of board of appeals, as well as the planning boards of Wakefield, Lynfield, Northring, Stonem, Wuburn, Wilmington, Wilmington. Testimony given by before this board is taken under oath. So, if you think you may want to speak, please
stand and raise your right hand. Um I swear the testimony given by you before this world will be the truth. The whole truth and nothing about the truth. No response. Just I do. I do. Thank you. Um yes. You just want to give a presentation on the case.
[Music] Good evening. My name is Vicia Silva. I'm the builder representing the homeowner at 180 road. Um, so we've been hired to um, sorry, so we're proposing a two-part
addition, a rare addition that is fully compliant with zoning. Um, just to clarify, we've actually gone through the conservation board and got the approval for that. Um we're actually the existing
structure actually encroaches on the the 30 foot buffer and we've proposed to actually reduce that um and that got appro approved and um the second part of the addition is we're proposing a front garage extension of just 5 ft. Um this
is crucial because the current garage is too shallow to fit a standard vehicle. We're also proposing a second floor addition above the garage. The existing home is a non-conforming in terms of front setback. We are not sorry in terms of the side setback. We are not
increasing that non-conformity because we are altering an existing non-conforming structure. We are here tonight to respectfully request a special permit. One key factor influencing our design is the wetlands buffer at the rear of the property. It
limits our ability to expand backward. In fact, we are removing a portion of the existing house that currently sits within the buffer, bringing the home more into environmental compliance. The addition is modest and the overall design is consistent with the look and the scale of other homes in the
neighborhood. It will remain a single family home and will not negatively impact streetscape or density. We've also done our due diligence with the neighbors. We spoke directly with all immediate butters and I'm happy to report that every one of them is support of the project.
Um, at the end of the day, this is about giving a family the functional code of respecting home while proven environmental compliance and preserving neighborhood character. I respectfully ask the board to approve this special permit. Happy to answer any questions
that you may have. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Um, does anyone on the board have questions or comments about this case? I'll go. Let me let me just clarify. So for putting aside the conservation issues, um it it's nonconforming right
now in the um sideyard setback, right? Correct. Is that the only non-conformity? That is the only non-conformity. Okay. And so what you're planning on doing will not change that any nonconformity
at all except that it will make it a little bit smaller. a little bit smaller. Oh, no. I'm sorry. It that'll be the same. Okay. That'll remain the same. But the garage coming forward, correct? Is the only thing that isn't on the existing footprint, right?
Correct. And that will also will not be that that still complies with the with the regulations even though it's coming forward. Right. Yes. Correct. Okay. So, but the reason I was confused is because this application it kind of reads like a request for a variance, but
it sounds like you're really requesting a special permit. We are requesting a special permit. Okay. I think that there was a little bit of confusion. I think I even spoke with Amanda about it, but it is a special permit. Okay. Yeah. Not a variance. That that makes it easier. Sorry about that. The application is
over. I can't confirm. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think it looks great. I think uh Yeah. I I don't see any particular issues. I see obviously it's a lot
easier to get that special permit than it is a variance. So, uh so I think it is a circumstance where the only thing we really are looking at is whether or not this design is substantially more detrimental to the neighborhood. And obviously, I believe
the design is beautiful and I think it will work be work work great with the uh with the neighborhood itself. But I'd actually like to hear just how uh from you guys how you feel uh it it is reduced like you did mention that uh
the neighbors are all very much in in uh in favor and I didn't know if there was anything in particular that you felt they approved of more so on one side versus other was just updating the house making it more code compliant uh potentially reducing some of the impact
for uh with the conservation commission issues, things like that. I didn't know if there was anything that you guys wanted to highlight specifically that you felt was more appropriate there. Yeah, I don't think so. I think um um Barry, he spoke mostly with the neighbors, but I think it was a general
consensus. I think you know what we're what we're seeking, we're proposing is not a huge ass. It's a second floor addition mainly over the over the existing house. um did the existing house I think has been abandoned for a little while. So some overgrown
um gardening around the house. So I think I think everyone is pretty happy to have you know a new family move into the neighborhood. So um yeah the current the current owner is not living in the house for almost three
year. His wife passed away unfortunately and then he moved to Florida with his daughter. So house is basically empty for last three year. The deck is not even safe is a less word. It if if you like step on the deck it it will come
apart right away. So yeah we are trying to move like with my wife two kids uh you know Joshua school. So yeah we will bring the house up to the community like standard so that we can live and you know and you guys are planning on moving into the house ASAP.
Awesome. Because my son is already going to Joshua. is hard to pick up and drop from the current location. Yeah, we are waiting as as soon as possible before the winter hits. Sounds good. Um,
anybody else from the board? Okay, I'll open up the public comment, but I see anybody there, but u I guess let's close public comment and then I got the motion. I'll do it. last.
Oh, yeah. All right. I'll move to grant the petitioners um of Venicius Silva on behalf of um Anita and uh Barat Batia um as trustees.
Uh uh oh under sections always fall apart under sections for a special permit under reading zoning bylaw sections 7.0 7.3 and 7.3.2
uh to conduct to construct a porch on the existing non-conforming structure with a non-conforming sideyard setback. It's actually more than a porch. I don't know why I put that way to to um to build the um um
second floor edition. The second floor edition as shown on the plans that were submitted with the application and as shown on the plot plan of land um prepared by Sullivan Engineering Group dated July 22nd, 2025. Um
the special permit is subject to the following conditions. The petitioner shall submit to the building inspector a certified flat plan of the proposed construction and proposed foundation plans prior to the issuance of a foundation permit for the work. Two, the petitioner's final construction plans for the new structure shall be submitted
to the building inspector along with the asbuilt foundation plans prior to the issuance of a building permit. Number three, the asbuilt plans showing the completed construction shall be submitted to the building inspector immediately after the work is completed and prior to the issuance of an occupancy permit. Do we want to include
any additional uh restrictions that's set forth by the conservation or comply with all uh requirements set forth by the conservation commission? Um sure. I I don't Yeah, sure. Out of excess of caution, we can we can say this is um contingent upon the
representation that the um they are also working with the conservation commission and have have received the um um the um instructions and the permission from them to do this. Um, second. Okay. All in favor?
All right. You're all set. Thank you. Congratulations, guys. Thank you. Okay. Next up is the August minutes, which I was not there for. So, I have two notes. just identifying
Amanda Haley instead of just you as Amanda. That's also in these minutes and the beginning. Um Taylor addressed Amanda Haley comments from previous meeting. Yes. So I the last video completely cut out so I missed all of that so it wasn't
exactly short but is still highlighted. Yeah. Um yeah, I can send you my statement if you wanted to read it. Yeah, if you don't mind doing that, that'd be great. And then I think you have uh Andrew's last name listed under the 39 summer a reading it and the email
requestment should be Patrick Patrick this past I guess does someone want to make a motion as amended? I make a motion to approve the minutes as amended. Second.
All in favor? All right, good. Your organization I guess is also on the agenda. Yes. So typically with it live, we do like the reorg. Um if you want to stay chair, you know,
switch it up. Have you rotated after two years? So has it been two years that you man? Yeah, we do typically like to rotate that. What? Change up the seats. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And I think the the
candidates in terms of longevity for um for it would be either Patrick or Chris. Um Patrick's not here any and he often isn't here. I mean to to to just to point that out because he
has the um hockey games. So, um I'm not sure if it would make sense for us to make him chair if he were here to He's been vice He's been vice chair. He's been vice chair. Yes. One thing I did want to mention, I don't know if you guys can or I'll open to possibly like
2026 going forward. Move to possibly Mondays if you guys could do Mondays. It's up to you guys. Just a thought. Um I don't know if that makes it easier or not for you guys. Yeah, Monday. It feels like it. Monday used to be a standing conflict
for me, but it's not anymore. So, um, I'd probably have to look at Okay. schedule and such. Yeah, that's fine. We can come back to it next next meeting. Um, if it doesn't really work, then that's fine. I just thought we're still scheduled for the first Tuesday in October, though, right?
Yes. Okay. Yes. Um, I won't move any of 20 the rest of 2025. Just make it like it's not too complicated. Back into January, you saying? Yeah. So, like January or we could choose like a further date. Okay. Whatever you guys Whatever works for everybody.
Yeah. Don't think we're eligible to feature, right? I think it creates a greater headache for Yeah, that's true. Um I mean, Chris, are you are you interested or Sure. I got this. How about holidays that fall on Mondays? Does that affect?
So, typically I would either bump that like a week before or week after depending or buff it to a Tuesday because I'm also trying to avoid the conflict with select board as well and getting like buffed from meeting. This is a more comfortable room.
Yes, it is. Usually, if it's the first Monday, so if the first Monday is a holiday like it was yesterday, I'm assuming that it would be the following Monday. Yeah. So, what I would do is the next time if you guys decide what you want to do, I'll draft the schedule. Um, I
haven't started that just yet because I wanted to talk to you guys, but I'll draft like the actual first set of dates and you guys can all look at them and see if it works. Um, we can leave it to like the same like Tuesdays. We might have to like I'm going to like work more
with um selectively schedule, but it's usually the only one that we have to That first Monday. On the first Monday. Yeah. The first Monday is only. Yeah. The others tend to be in the middle of the month.
Those are people recover. Yeah. I'll give it to that next time. You know, calendar. All right. I would I would accept. Chair. Okay. We I I'm moved to uh um appoint Chris Prior
as chairman second all in favor. All right. Great. Congratulations. Congratulations. And then Patrick remaining as or do you want to keep Patrick's remaining as vice chair? I don't think.
Yeah, let's do it. Unless Frank Unless Frank wants to take a turn. Okay. Move to ajourn. Second. Sounds good. I'm perfect. Thank you.